Forum logs for 07 Jun 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [00:54]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [00:54]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [00:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5427 @ 0.00086131 = 4.6743 BTC [+] [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14953 @ 0.00085744 = 12.8213 BTC [-] {2} [00:56]
* assbot gives voice to other_mp [00:57]
benkay re uber: it's the perfect way to roll out a robo-fleet [00:57]
other_mp hm, so you can actually have multiple accounts id'dasthesame gpg id ?! [00:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, other_mp: ...board ignores atx shutdown << cpu is stopped [00:58]
other_mp asciilifeform nah, cpu fan carried on [00:58]
asciilifeform fan yes, cpu no [00:58]
other_mp so board is shot basically [00:59]
asciilifeform fan is normally hardwired to +12v [00:59]
asciilifeform dollars to doughnuts, bad vreg [00:59]
mike_c ;;ident other_mp [00:59]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'other_mp', with hostmask 'other_mp!~Mircea@190.172.18.16', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None [00:59]
other_mp ;;ident mircea_popescu [00:59]
gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~satoshi@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None [00:59]
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asciilifeform either that or mp has defective u.s. implant and i have a defective nsa camerabird. [00:59]
jborkl sup ladies [01:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 12.01217590 BTC to 29`438 shares, 40805 satoshi per share [01:00]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo, mike_c: transformer/bird hypothesis: beautiful, but one problem. wrong room. [01:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 261 @ 0.00300101 = 0.7833 BTC [-] {3} [01:02]
other_mp so from my local newspaper (which helpfully includes three pages of stock and equity listings, you should see these things) : [01:03]
other_mp cayeron 2% las escrituraciones de abril. [01:03]
other_mp las operaciones de compraventa de inmuebles durante abril en la ciudad de buenos aires alcanzaron las 2681 operaciones por un monto de $2000 miliones [01:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07299714 = 0.876 BTC [+] {2} [01:04]
other_mp en la comparacion interanual, las escrituras se redujeron 2.1% y de acuerdo al colegio de escribanos, la cantidad total aumeno un 20.6% respecto del mes anterior que registro 2223 [01:05]
other_mp basically, they had 2.5k building sales in april for an average value per building of [01:05]
other_mp ;;calc 2000 / 2681 [01:05]
gribble 0.745990302126 [01:05]
other_mp 750k per. [01:06]
other_mp what does the esteemed chan think, mike_c, fluffypony, los_pantalones : am i fucking insane to contemplate a ba real estate investment vehicle for btc ? [01:07]
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mike_c yes [01:08]
mike_c i don't speak spanish, but i doubt that said "10x in a year" [01:08]
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other_mp btc wasn;t 50 bux in 2013. [01:09]
other_mp for that matter, btc was 1.2k in jan [01:09]
mike_c btc actually was 50 bux in 2013 [01:10]
other_mp moar like 100 i thought [01:11]
mike_c last time it was 50 was mid-march 2013 [01:11]
other_mp http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=bitstampUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=360&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0& << admirable how glued to 100 it stayed, after the april events. [01:12]
benkay residential, other_mp ? [01:14]
other_mp i don't know enough about the market to even guess. [01:14]
other_mp more interested to settle theprinciple first, then maybe more canbe squeezed from such optimisations [01:14]
mike_c to put this in perspective. it's August 2013. price is $100. "the price was $240 in april, hasn't moved in months" [01:15]
benkay my intel suggests that residential is not a good play. not enough buyers to support the market, too much inventory to support rents at a rate that accomodates inflation, plus buyers favor newer properties over anything else [01:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0730007 = 0.146 BTC [+] [01:16]
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benkay there is the thing called buying the hole, where you buy a building or some fraction thereof during/prior to construction for some 30% discount. whether or not the position is liquidatable later, i cannot speak to. [01:17]
benkay commercial otoh rents for acceptable rates/ [01:17]
other_mp benkay you can generally get about 1 dollar / sqft out of tourists/foreigners from what i see. [01:18]
other_mp it doesn't cost you 20 dollars/sqft to acquirethe space. [01:18]
benkay occupancy rate [01:18]
benkay cost per acquisition [01:18]
other_mp i intend to import as many sane people as possible. [01:19]
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other_mp mike_c very hard to argue with that. [01:19]
asciilifeform isn't ar one of those places where they love expropriation/dekulakization? [01:19]
other_mp asciilifeform nope. [01:19]
benkay not that i'm terribly sane, but i'm working on it [01:19]
other_mp you should see the jewish section btw. [01:19]
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benkay expropriation happens with oil deposits in ars, from what i've heard. [01:20]
other_mp mike_c especially cxonsideringthe sinergies involved. a successful plata valley would by and of itself drive up btc price, hurting the very thing that made it possible [01:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0730008 = 0.146 BTC [+] [01:20]
asciilifeform benkay: so drill first, if dry -> safe ? [01:20]
mike_c heh, yeah. [01:21]
mike_c kinda like using btc to develop quantum computers that destroy btc [01:21]
other_mp what would you have me do ;/ [01:21]
mike_c what, you got too much time on your hands? [01:21]
asciilifeform hurting the very thing that made it possible << thermodynamics suggests that this is kinda inevitable for just about anything worthwhile [01:21]
other_mp exactly. [01:22]
benkay plata valley? [01:22]
other_mp yes. silicon is on the outs. [01:22]
benkay ah i see. [01:22]
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other_mp theory being that the real estate problems of san francisco today result from poor historical management [01:23]
benkay low density? [01:23]
other_mp perhaps had the whole thing been managed by a corp into which the inerested parties could buy interest [01:23]
other_mp things'd have worked better [01:23]
other_mp trying to explore this theory. [01:23]
benkay envisioning a walled compound in bsas? [01:24]
asciilifeform relevant: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014&bots=true#607608 [01:24]
other_mp why walled ? [01:24]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [01:24]
other_mp it's unsanitary for you to not be periodically raped. [01:24]
benkay thinking about previous comments re nazis [01:24]
other_mp how's that thinking go ? [01:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00085514 = 5.3874 BTC [-] [01:24]
benkay well poorly [01:24]
asciilifeform afaik the nazitowns weren't walled in [01:24]
other_mp lmao [01:24]
asciilifeform (what's there now?) [01:24]
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benkay ibid the memory-ing [01:25]
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other_mp mike_c does it sound any saner now ? [01:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0730009 = 0.511 BTC [+] [01:25]
benkay brains a little fried from an afternoon of porking and lifting [01:25]
mike_c but it's still an expense, not an investment [01:25]
other_mp porking = sex ? [01:26]
benkay mhm [01:26]
other_mp mike_c if the expense saves 2x the expense for 100 different peopel [01:26]
other_mp then the word for that expense is investment [01:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.072 = 0.72 BTC [-] [01:26]
mike_c right, but if that money could have grown 10x instead of 2x.. [01:26]
mike_c it's a fiat investment, not a btc investment [01:26]
other_mp yes dude but we can't plant all farmland with pot. [01:27]
other_mp munchies of doom [01:27]
mike_c that's fine, but don't tel me that growing corn instead of pot is an investment [01:27]
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mike_c it may be an appropriate expense, but still an expense. [01:27]
other_mp i don't lol. monsanto does. [01:28]
asciilifeform m doesn't grow corn, it grows w0rldd0mination [01:28]
asciilifeform the chumpers grow the 'corn' [01:28]
other_mp ;;google adm [01:29]
gribble ADM: Home: ; ADM: Careers: ; Archer Daniels Midland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [01:29]
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other_mp 90bn revenue on 40bn assets. [01:30]
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mike_c 40b assets + 23b liabilities, but still, that's impressive. [01:32]
mike_c oh, nevermind. 1.3 bn in income. [01:32]
mike_c keep your corn. [01:32]
other_mp hehehe [01:33]
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other_mp but are they investments or are they expenses. [01:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0721021 = 0.3605 BTC [-] [01:33]
mike_c lots of investments in the world. t-bills are an investment. [01:34]
mike_c i wouldn't sink any btc into them [01:34]
other_mp myeah [01:34]
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mike_c I used to think bitbet was an investment until halep pranced her way into the finals. [01:35]
other_mp lol [01:35]
BingoBoingo ADM basically runs on the Uber model, little actual infrastructure (a few hub) and a lot of subcontractors. [01:36]
other_mp BingoBoingo yup. [01:36]
other_mp a lot of those big bn figures are various consolidations [01:36]
* BingoBoingo has seen the ADM elevators on the Mississippi coast of Western IL [01:37]
BingoBoingo ADM is basically a bank whose currency is grain [01:39]
other_mp mike_c sometimes i suspect your investment philosophy is roughly the equivalent of the kid that'll only eat cake. [01:39]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [01:42]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [01:42]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [01:42]
mike_c unless of course, you have too much money. in which case I recommend reading this article: http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ [01:43]
assbot The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07210555 = 0.7211 BTC [+] [01:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.02382848 = 0.3336 BTC [+] {5} [01:45]
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mircea_popescu well, because if there isn't a universe available and everyone rides on thesame pole we'll sink. [01:46]
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mircea_popescu consider : if only the things that you'd invest in existed, what would you do for food ? [01:47]
mike_c there is a universe available. some people buy t-bills. [01:47]
mike_c and some people buy RENT [01:47]
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mike_c !t h RENT [01:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00379000 / 0.00384114 / 0.00449999 (205 shares, 0.78743415 BTC), 7D: 0.00280000 / 0.00375268 / 0.00470000 (1999 shares, 7.50160646 BTC), 30D: 0.00280000 / 0.00538448 / 0.00710000 (6959 shares, 37.47058930 BTC) [01:48]
BingoBoingo ;;bc, stats [01:48]
gribble Error: "bc," is not a valid command. [01:48]
mike_c all I'm saying, is that if you create a BA REIT, it will decline in BTC value over the next couple years. [01:48]
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mike_c and i'd be happy to bitbet back that opinion up :) [01:49]
thestringpuller mike_c: will you ever review any mining investments? [01:49]
mike_c thestringpuller: i've looked into some. but it's hard to find any worth reviewing. [01:49]
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mircea_popescu mike_c couple of years is no concern, i don't see how one could fit all the required research in one year. [01:50]
mircea_popescu how about the next five years ? [01:50]
thestringpuller wow it's that bad huh? [01:50]
thestringpuller @ mike_c [01:50]
mike_c mircea_popescu: when would you make the first purchase? [01:51]
mircea_popescu 2 years +- 6 months i guess [01:51]
mircea_popescu "during 2016" [01:51]
mike_c hard to say then.. would need crystal ball. [01:51]
mircea_popescu interesting. [01:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0281025 = 0.1124 BTC [-] {2} [01:52]
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mike_c but my guess is it wouldn't change [01:52]
mircea_popescu what, it just goes to the moon perpetually ? [01:52]
mike_c what is BTC stabilization point? when do we get there? I don't think 2016 [01:52]
mike_c obviously $8bn is a joke. it can't stay there. [01:52]
mircea_popescu what's 8 bn ? [01:53]
mike_c current mkt cap [01:53]
benkay ;;ticker [01:53]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 648.83, Best ask: 653.26, Bid-ask spread: 4.43000, Last trade: 648.7, 24 hour volume: 6528.19016546, 24 hour low: 647.21, 24 hour high: 664.5, 24 hour vwap: 0 [01:54]
benkay is there a gribble command to get issued coins? [01:54]
mircea_popescu "it was only sometime between 1910 and 1912 ...that a random patient, with a random disease, consulting a doctor chosen at random, had, for the first time in the history of mankind, a better than 50-50 chance of profiting from the encounter." [01:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 108 @ 0.00187577 = 0.2026 BTC [+] {7} [01:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0744998 = 0.5215 BTC [+] [01:54]
mike_c ;;calc 12864025 * [ticker --last] [01:54]
gribble 8347465822.5 [01:54]
mike_c $8.3 bn [01:54]
mircea_popescu obviously it won't stay here. [01:56]
mike_c ;;calc 35274*170000*1200 [01:56]
gribble 7195896000000 [01:56]
mike_c that's how much all the gold is worth [01:56]
benkay mike_c: where'd you get 12864025? [01:57]
mircea_popescu i doubt that's relevant. [01:57]
mike_c benkay: blockr.io [01:57]
mircea_popescu 20x world gdp seems the measure to me [01:57]
mike_c so you say $2 trillion, gold is worth $7 trillion, so let's say btc is going to be worth $1 trillion [01:58]
mike_c ;;calc 20000000 / 1e12 [01:58]
gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) [01:58]
mircea_popescu let's say "trillions" and be happy [01:58]
mircea_popescu ;;totalbtc [01:59]
gribble Error: "totalbtc" is not a valid command. [01:59]
mircea_popescu ;;totalbc [01:59]
gribble 12864125.0 [01:59]
mircea_popescu aok [01:59]
mircea_popescu benkay ^ [01:59]
mike_c so wtf is that.. $50k btc price? [01:59]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [02:00]
mike_c won't be there by 2016 i don't think. [02:00]
gribble Current Blocks: 304564 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1867 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 15 hours, 3 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11627917352.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.09415 [02:00]
mircea_popescu mike_c why not ? 10x two years. [02:00]
mike_c maybe, but maybe the last 10x takes a bit longer. hence crystal ball. [02:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07256041 = 0.653 BTC [-] [02:01]
mike_c plus, $50k is 1 trillion. could end up at 2t, or 5t [02:01]
mircea_popescu i was thinking, stabilisation is prolly between 100k and 1mn [02:02]
mircea_popescu or, amusingly, at the point where 1 inmueble goes for 1 btc [02:02]
mike_c at that point, i will invest in the REIT :) [02:02]
asciilifeform in other news, persistent bird finally appears to have ended up at end of the line - in cat. [02:02]
mike_c finally. darwin wins. [02:03]
BingoBoingo Did the cat reveal any odd configurations in the flybeast? [02:03]
asciilifeform haven't found any remains, so not 100% sure. but thick & contented cat now sitting on the shit perch. [02:04]
mircea_popescu who was hating on religion earlier ? [02:04]
mircea_popescu "60 Religion Protects You From Bad Science --Medicine, Expert Problems, and the Rationality of Temples" quoth taleb. [02:04]
mike_c thestringpuller: there are safer ways to invest in bitcoin difficulty besides mining companies. like x.idiff. way less chance of scam. [02:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [-] [02:04]
mircea_popescu i do believe that' ssound, too. by making people deaf to arguments, religion makes people deaf to bad arguments [02:04]
mircea_popescu which explains why burka wearing islamic women are not nearly as annoying as reddit dwelling us women. [02:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00253949 = 0.2666 BTC [+] [02:05]
mircea_popescu http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/notebook.htm < sauce [02:05]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I guess feline disassembly and analysis isn't warranted until it catches another defective flybeast... [02:06]
asciilifeform http://imgur.com/o2HcssV [02:08]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [02:08]
benkay bitbet's also a good way to make money on mining without ever touching miners [02:09]
benkay just lay odds on diff bets as soon as they appear [02:09]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: on the contrary, i should like to tame this one. he likes to sit in the window box (once contained plants) near my work room. [02:11]
mike_c asciilifeform: lol. you need to stitch that as the last frame of your earlier video :) [02:11]
asciilifeform same animal that appeared to tunnel under house (cat, afaik, cannot actually tunnel) [02:12]
mircea_popescu cats will dig, sure. [02:13]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Probably ought to leave it some incentives to continue its air defence mission. [02:13]
asciilifeform afaik only to bury turd [02:13]
mircea_popescu not a s proficient as a hound that smelled a rat, but still [02:13]
mircea_popescu they can digup a mouse [02:13]
asciilifeform cat experts, chime in - can the animal tunnel [02:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27988 @ 0.00085423 = 23.9082 BTC [-] {4} [02:15]
asciilifeform the moral of the story appears to be: 'longcat is long.' [02:16]
ThickAsThieves ive never seen a cat tunnel, but i also havent been around many outdoor cats [02:17]
asciilifeform moiety awake? [02:17]
ThickAsThieves raccoons will do it tho [02:17]
ThickAsThieves raccoons are like idiot cats [02:18]
mircea_popescu and more powerful [02:18]
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mircea_popescu !up handsomesally [02:19]
-assbot- You voiced handsomesally for 30 minutes. [02:19]
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handsomesally hi [02:21]
mircea_popescu ello [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8021 @ 0.00085467 = 6.8553 BTC [+] {2} [02:27]
benkay who are you, handsomesally ? [02:27]
handsomesally calvinism is the only way that makes sense in the way of salvation [02:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: taleb link << mighty interesting [02:28]
mircea_popescu guy has a fucking point. [02:28]
mircea_popescu it is better to be stupid and appear stupid than to be stupid and appear a ceo. [02:28]
handsomesally heretics claim god loves everyone [02:28]
handsomesally thats a lie, John 3:16 greek is kosmos and it dosent mean everyone [02:28]
mircea_popescu it does mean "everything" which is close enough. [02:29]
handsomesally so in So the Pharisees said to one another, "You see that you are not doing any good; look, the world has gone after Him." John 12:19 everyone in the world went after him? [02:30]
mircea_popescu why not ? [02:31]
mircea_popescu closeenough [02:31]
handsomesally or For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” John 6:33 [02:31]
handsomesally Jesus gives life to the world? everyone? if that is everyone in the world then everyone goes to heaven but that is not true [02:31]
mircea_popescu been there or how'd you know [02:31]
mircea_popescu the line where life is a divine gift has plenty of exploratory history, not liable to end up tripping. [02:32]
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handsomesally and god does not love everyone [02:33]
handsomesally Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels. Hosea 9:15 [02:33]
punkman hello, is this biblebot? [02:33]
handsomesally nooooo [02:33]
mike_c ;;ident handsomesally [02:34]
gribble Nick 'handsomesally', with hostmask 'handsomesally!~handsomes@73.186.45.139', is not identified. [02:34]
mircea_popescu punkman moar like sa trying to pick a fight with danielpbarron and or luke [02:34]
handsomesally http://www.ccel.org/ccel/edwards/sermons.sinners.html [02:35]
assbot Select Sermons - Christian Classics Ethereal Library [02:35]
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handsomesally whos assbot [02:38]
punkman handsomesally: so you are into calvinism? [02:38]
handsomesally what if i am? [02:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.273 = 0.546 BTC [-] [02:39]
handsomesally you an arminian? [02:39]
asciilifeform i've always wanted to ask an actual live calvinist! : wtf do they bother to attend church, carry out services, etc. if predestined. [02:39]
handsomesally i dont go to any churches in my area they all preach "god loves you soooo much" when in reality he dosent love everyone [02:39]
handsomesally and predestination is biblical [02:39]
handsomesally arminians reject that God chooses us [02:40]
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punkman are you a chosen one? [02:40]
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asciilifeform calvinism always sounded like a pretty easy religion to follow. i.e. just do whatever you want [02:40]
handsomesally elect? IDK, called yes [02:40]
mike_c catholics do that too [02:40]
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benkay !down handsomesally [02:41]
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punkman it was predestined [02:41]
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BingoBoingo !up handsomesally [02:42]
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BingoBoingo handsomesally: Did danielpbarron refer you here? [02:42]
handsomesally danielpbarron? [02:42]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [02:44]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [02:44]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [02:44]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [02:44]
handsomesally asciilifeform: what? [02:44]
benkay you two are unsaveable. [02:44]
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handsomesally so you claim calvinists cant be saved? [02:44]
BingoBoingo I thought the point was Calvinists were already saved [02:45]
benkay handsomesally: if i'm talking to you, you'll know. [02:45]
handsomesally if your predestined to be saved you will be saved [02:45]
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handsomesally the reason why people abhor calvinism is because it stresses predestination which it does [02:46]
handsomesally and limited atonement everyone believes in it [02:46]
thestringpuller !ticker m X.IDIFF.JUN [02:46]
assbot Have you got any tobacco? [02:46]
thestringpuller !ticker m IDIFF.JUN [02:46]
assbot It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. [02:46]
benkay spelling and grammar: irrelevant concerns for the religious. [02:46]
handsomesally i dont care about grammar [02:47]
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benkay just the old sky faerie, eh? [02:47]
danielpbarron <+handsomesally> calvinism is the only way that makes sense in the way of salvation << calvanists deny 1 Timothy 2:6 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+timothy+2%3A3-7&version=NKJV [02:48]
assbot 1 timothy 2:3-7 NKJV - For this is good and acceptable in the - Bible Gateway [02:48]
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benkay what have you done BingoBoingo [02:48]
punkman #bitcoin-bible-study-group [02:48]
BingoBoingo benkay: Offering bashable foder [02:48]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [02:49]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0DRDB98.txt ) [02:49]
mike_c kakobrekla: now that idiff's are relevant, would it be hard to add to add !t m support? [02:49]
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thestringpuller i don't think there is any volume to show mike_c [02:49]
punkman plot twist: #bitcoin-bible-study-group is about trilema [02:49]
BingoBoingo ;;google site:trilema.com Tits [02:50]
gribble People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Find out just how human your girlfriend really is* pe Trilema - Un ...: ; A practical exercise for people who can't afford airfare. pe Trilema ...: [02:50]
handsomesally so your saying jesus died for everyone and everyone goes to heaven [02:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07498998 = 1.1998 BTC [+] {3} [02:50]
benkay you're [02:50]
benkay your is posessive [02:50]
BingoBoingo handsomesally: Who said Jesus was dead, I was cutting some lawns with him this morning... [02:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.075 = 4.05 BTC [+] {2} [02:51]
mike_c $vwap x.idiff.jun [02:51]
* BingoBoingo follows an aschetic works based aetherism... [02:51]
kakobrekla mike_c the problem is not assbot, the problem is mpex [02:52]
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mike_c aah [02:52]
danielpbarron <+handsomesally> thats a lie, John 3:16 greek is kosmos and it dosent mean everyone << This is a lie. Romans 3:6 uses this same term, and it speaks of God judging the world in the future. It is undeniably clear God is going to judge "every individual of mankind who has ever lived" (Psalm 9:8; 96:13; 98:9; Ecclesiastes 12:13-14; 2 Corinthians 5:10; 1 Peter 4:17). [02:52]
benkay "lie" [02:52]
benkay ffs [02:52]
benkay false import [02:53]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu you are missing diffs on mpex-vwap.php [02:53]
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mike_c thestringpuller: there is. couple hundred btc have been sold this period at least [02:54]
handsomesally danielpbarron: so you pull a verse out of context huh, John 6:33 says "For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”" so saying John 3:16 equals god loves everyone means jesus gives life everyone to the world which is a lie as not everyone is saved moreover god dosent love everyone hosea 9:15 refutes that [02:54]
benkay !down handsomesally [02:54]
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danielpbarron <+handsomesally> so in So the Pharisees said to one another, "You see that you are not doing any good; look, the world has gone after Him." John 12:19 everyone in the world went after him? << the key words here might be, "the Pharisees said" [02:55]
benkay now, about those idiffs [02:55]
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BingoBoingo benkay: Well, there's an argument over greek nao, that's a change from the usual kinds of language wars [02:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 116 @ 0.02341497 = 2.7161 BTC [-] {7} [02:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.01978915 = 0.1781 BTC [-] {2} [02:56]
benkay lolya rly interdasted in heady theology from people who can't figure out "your" vs "you're". [02:57]
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thestringpuller mike_c: hmm wish it would show up on the volume on mpex [02:57]
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mike_c yeah.. that is odd [02:58]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla possibly omitted cause 0 [02:59]
mircea_popescu ill have it lookt into [02:59]
kakobrekla oix is 0 too and is there [02:59]
mike_c thestringpuller: mayhaps just rolled over 30d. last trade i see in logs is http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#663257 [02:59]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [02:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 727 @ 0.00016306 = 0.1185 BTC [-] {8} [02:59]
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thestringpuller ;;bc,stats [03:00]
gribble Current Blocks: 304569 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1862 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 14 hours, 11 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11546245801.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.78884 [03:00]
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thestringpuller mike_c: oh wow it is relevant now heh [03:00]
thestringpuller thanks for pointing this out lol [03:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.02791351 = 0.335 BTC [-] {3} [03:01]
mike_c it is a very cool thing whose time may have finally come. [03:01]
mircea_popescu "Kadú es en la actualidad el único fetish bar de Buenos Aires donde nos reunimos los gays leather locales y donde acuden también muchos visitantes extranjeros, los sábados desde las 10 de la noche. Consta de un bar y un sótano donde la acción sexual está garantizada: las prácticas del BDSM más habituales son el fisting, las lluvias (para las que, a diferencia de los anteriores clubes, hay un sector específico), el nipple play y con [03:02]
mircea_popescu menos frecuencia se dan algunas sesiones de bondage, spanking o whiping, para las cuales el establecimiento provee de los accesorios necesarios. El código de vestimenta es estricto: cuero, látex, uniformes. " [03:02]
thestringpuller indirect mining investment eh? Guess it can be a way to access mining... [03:02]
mircea_popescu god help them they suck [03:02]
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danielpbarron <+handsomesally> Jesus gives life to the world? everyone? if that is everyone in the world then everyone goes to heaven but that is not true << Scripture teaches that a person can believe in vain (1 Corinthians 15:2), receive the grace of God in vain (2 Corinthians 6:1), and even be sanctified by the blood of the covenant (Hebrews 10:29), and still end up in hell (Revelation 21:8). If a person's life questionably matches wh [03:02]
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mircea_popescu !up Hoodmin [03:04]
-assbot- You voiced Hoodmin for 30 minutes. [03:04]
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mike_c daniel, he's gone. it's ok. [03:04]
[]bot Bet created: "Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year" http://bitbet.us/bet/887/ [03:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+] [03:05]
benkay no suits? [03:06]
danielpbarron mike_c, heh, i was up in the scroll; didn't know he left [03:06]
danielpbarron but apparently he's reading the logs through the website, so he'll probably see this anyway [03:07]
mike_c or you can PM him :) [03:08]
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mircea_popescu an even better idea [03:10]
[]bot Bet created: "Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion" http://bitbet.us/bet/888/ [03:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.287 = 0.574 BTC [+] [03:12]
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decimation re: ortolan >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4MS7mSzX8 [03:17]
assbot Clarkson eats an Ortolan bunting - YouTube [03:17]
decimation I suspect your crazed fowl wouldn't be as tasty as a real ortolan [03:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+] [03:18]
decimation re: religious people: The religious zealots who bother in me are those who have turned marxism into godless Christianity - they hold the whip hand in the west for now [03:19]
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mircea_popescu "The Better Business Bureau in Austin has issued a warning about doing business with Cointerra, a Bitcoin mining manufacturer." [03:37]
decimation asciilifeorm: I made contact with Mr. Parker, his tool was to create hdl code from a 7400 netlist, not the other way [03:38]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate mthreat 1 new blood [03:38]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded. [03:38]
mircea_popescu actually [03:38]
mircea_popescu ;;rate mthreat 1 had coffee [03:38]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 1. [03:39]
decimation in related news, apparently these people make GHz rate 7400 parts: http://www.potatosemi.com/potatosemiweb/74Logic.html [03:39]
assbot Potato Semiconductor 74 Logic [03:39]
Mats_cd03 theology and quibbling over scripture and doctrine is so fucking dumb [03:39]
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Mats_cd03 a waste of cycles to so much as hold the thought in your head [03:40]
Mats_cd03 ;;bc,stats [03:41]
gribble Current Blocks: 304571 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1860 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 13 hours, 50 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11600761528.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.32514 [03:41]
Mats_cd03 ;;ticker [03:41]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 647.83, Best ask: 649.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 649.26, 24 hour volume: 6364.35989286, 24 hour low: 647.13, 24 hour high: 662.13, 24 hour vwap: 657.244722223 [03:41]
decimation the downside: $3 for a NAND chip [03:43]
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TheNewDeal notta lotta action [04:31]
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mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 were you going for norway? [04:43]
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Mats_cd03 no [04:48]
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Mats_cd03 what are you referring to [04:48]
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mircea_popescu someone wanted to ove to norway [05:18]
dooglus Re: <+BingoBoingo> Anyone else remember the KingofSPorts lolcow who got 1BTC from dooglus for writing a confessional about his gambling everything all the time and landing in rehab? [05:18]
mircea_popescu !up jadne [05:18]
-assbot- You voiced jadne for 30 minutes. [05:18]
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dooglus uh, no [05:18]
dooglus I didn't give him anything did I? [05:18]
mircea_popescu i thought it was a little odd [05:18]
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mike_c hey dooglus, how's it going. big day on JD today! [05:20]
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mircea_popescu !jd [05:20]
assbot Just-Dice stat: 18429 BTC profit, 43.0k BTC invested, 1231.52 mio bets, 5.28 mio BTC wagered [05:20]
mircea_popescu not bad [05:20]
mike_c 5750 wagered, nicely above average. [05:20]
dooglus crazy day, yes. at least 4 major incidents in the last 24h [05:20]
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mircea_popescu incidents ? [05:21]
dooglus whale LiKaShing deposits 20 BTC, and has it immediately withdrawn by sources unknown. claims site is hacked [05:21]
Mats_cd03 so much for martingale [05:21]
dooglus fake theymos loses fortune [05:21]
dooglus klye admits to spunking porn ipo fund over just-dice [05:21]
mike_c yeah, that was a good one [05:22]
mike_c what did you do about likashing? [05:22]
dooglus and pippin after discovering the joy of investing in jd instead of losing, loses all [05:22]
mike_c lol [05:22]
mircea_popescu obsesivel read logs and code ? [05:22]
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Namworld Hey dooglus [05:22]
dooglus I kind of accused him of trying to make the site look bad [05:22]
dooglus hey Namworld [05:22]
dooglus that mike is still badmouthing CR in hs thread [05:22]
mircea_popescu dooglus i don't imagine 20 btc s the largest cash deposit [05:23]
mike_c did you offer any kind of evidence or just lean on your rep? [05:23]
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mike_c just curious about how you deal with that kind of thing. must be reasonably common to get scam accused. [05:23]
dooglus I don't have any evidence. someone used his URL to access his account... [05:23]
dooglus it's quite rare, other than the rigtards "7 lo in a row! impossibru!" [05:24]
mike_c user 798461 last 24 hours: wagered 2,838 lost 565. ouch. [05:25]
Namworld eh, I can't do much more about it. [05:25]
dooglus weird rating system. the more trouble her has with the site, th more checkmarks you get for customer support [05:25]
dooglus he never had a problem with JD, so we get none [05:26]
Namworld Well to hell with it. If he's not happy not having instant support. [05:27]
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Namworld We can't currently offer that. [05:27]
dooglus I expect MP's buttcoin was Klye's first experience with selling his body for tips [05:27]
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mircea_popescu lol [05:28]
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dooglus I just linked to MPIF in a reddit comment btw [05:28]
dooglus http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27hk9o/someone_calling_themselves_theymos_is_gambling/ci168sn [05:28]
assbot dooglus comments on Someone calling themselves "theymos" is gambling like mad on Just-Dice [05:28]
dooglus called it "well known" [05:28]
mircea_popescu nice [05:29]
mircea_popescu did you get banned ? [05:30]
dooglus didn't check yet [05:30]
dooglus you're banned from reddit? [05:30]
mircea_popescu uh i never had anaccount [05:31]
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mircea_popescu just, average redditard gets butthurt when reminded mpex exists [05:33]
mircea_popescu plenty of people still around that "invested" in glbse and predicted mpex' imminent closure back in 2012 etc. [05:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0237999 = 0.1666 BTC [+] [05:45]
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TheNewDeal why do all the fun topics like horseporn start up when I go to sleep?! [05:52]
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TheNewDeal does anyone have any intel on who created the WTI bet / why? [05:55]
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bitcoinpete !up CryptoConsultor [05:57]
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bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation [05:58]
assbot wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] [05:58]
CryptoConsultor Right awn. Thanks [05:58]
CryptoConsultor Fresh meat in the house [05:58]
bitcoinpete i met CryptoConsultor at our local meet-up the other week and he asked for a q&a… naturally i brought him here [05:59]
bitcoinpete lol yup [05:59]
bitcoinpete so shoot away [05:59]
CryptoConsultor Feels good to jump on IRC again. It's been a while [06:00]
TheNewDeal bitcoinpete you liking the looks of your Bastille Day purchase? [06:00]
bitcoinpete TheNewDeal: more and more :D [06:01]
bitcoinpete ;;bc,stats [06:01]
gribble Current Blocks: 304590 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1841 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11836591652.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.68081 [06:01]
TheNewDeal .68!!! [06:01]
bitcoinpete ya, it was like 13 this morning [06:01]
bitcoinpete no idea wtf [06:02]
bitcoinpete meh [06:02]
dooglus there's a pending bet on bitbet about Klye's longevity [06:02]
TheNewDeal network has been hashing quite slow since the diff change... [06:02]
dooglus but it's phrased as a disjunction, so I doubt it will b acceptable [06:02]
bitcoinpete dooglus: i read the logs earlier… how does kyle have any longevity left? [06:02]
bitcoinpete dood is toast [06:02]
dooglus he hopes the bet is accepted so he can advise his creditors to vote "o" then top himself [06:03]
dooglus "no"* [06:03]
bitcoinpete TheNewDeal: ya and a bunch of hashpower skipped down like 2 hours before the reset [06:03]
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bitcoinpete dooglus: kyle proposed this bet?? [06:03]
TheNewDeal mircea_popescu is there a problem with trilema credits? I'm suddenly able to browse quite freely when using my 4G piped through my phone [06:04]
bitcoinpete TheNewDeal: 3g/4g always gives fresh ip addresses me thinks [06:04]
bitcoinpete or something to that effect [06:04]
TheNewDeal ahhh [06:04]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: you getting wotted up? [06:04]
bitcoinpete Apocalyptic:hum, so clueless wannabe investor's pool hasn't dried up yet << but it's shrivelling like a salted slug [06:06]
CryptoConsultor digesting WoT info now [06:06]
CryptoConsultor So your assbot can cryptokey your Ident? [06:07]
bitcoinpete gribble does that [06:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0765 = 0.153 BTC [+] [06:08]
bitcoinpete assbot is for voice [06:08]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: wait, just like germany ? << lulz it's a new trend! [06:09]
dooglus bitcoinpete: I don't think so [06:10]
CryptoConsultor i see. you find bitcoin info loaded more on freenet servers? [06:10]
CryptoConsultor My old running ground was EFnet [06:10]
CryptoConsultor definatly feel a bit rusty with my web skillz. Industrial work has made me soft [06:11]
bitcoinpete dooglus: a misunderstood then. either way, betting on that kid is as sensical as that kid's betting [06:11]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: well spend 6 months reading logs here and derusting and you'll be good as new [06:11]
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CryptoConsultor so much to digest already. you place this place highest in priority? [06:13]
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CryptoConsultor should have just started here dangit [06:14]
CryptoConsultor feelin so left out of the last 3 fun years [06:15]
bitcoinpete yup, no higher priority than right here [06:15]
bitcoinpete https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDJovyJ5zXk [06:15]
assbot Tony Bennett & Bill Evans - Young And Foolish - YouTube [06:15]
CryptoConsultor It's rough these days to find the time to be the grand lurker I used to be [06:17]
bitcoinpete fluffypony: PS. I'm valuing my next company at $1 billion despite it having accomplished very little and/or nothing << what were we gonna ipo again? iWalletBackup inspired by usagi? [06:18]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: i hear ya but there's no other way [06:18]
bitcoinpete it's 2-3 hours per day [06:18]
bitcoinpete every day [06:18]
CryptoConsultor That's tough to find as a single dad with 2 careers [06:19]
bitcoinpete mike_c:are you fking kidding me. halep in the finals?? << against the blonde bomber! [06:19]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: i bet man [06:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1791 @ 0.00085257 = 1.527 BTC [-] {2} [06:19]
bitcoinpete well, at least you can outsource some of the research to me :D [06:20]
CryptoConsultor If I can navigate these crtpto waters I should hopefully phase out my industrial life [06:20]
CryptoConsultor I miss tech land [06:20]
CryptoConsultor You got your start here before the madness? [06:21]
bitcoinpete i started reading logs in december last year [06:22]
bitcoinpete just about… 6 months ago [06:22]
bitcoinpete and the yeshiva doesn't end there [06:22]
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bitcoinpete ;;google bitcoinpete irc yeshiva [06:22]
gribble Bitcoin Pete (bitcoinpete) on Twitter: ; IRC Yeshiva | When Bitcoin Met Pete: ; Biting Into The WoT Elephant (And IRC Nicknames) | When Bitcoin ...: [06:22]
bitcoinpete took me 8 months or so to find this place for realz [06:25]
bitcoinpete i found trilema right quick, but it was so far over my head that it took almost a year of reading it and many other books to come to terms with it. [06:25]
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CryptoConsultor You run with any crews before then? [06:26]
CryptoConsultor I spent many years reading logs back in the days before Napster [06:27]
CryptoConsultor Fond memories of a mispent youth [06:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.29744651 = 5.9489 BTC [+] {6} [06:27]
benkay CryptoConsultor: are you a cryptographic consultant? [06:29]
bitcoinpete other_mp: you should see the jewish section btw.>> like so? http://wander-argentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/WA-jewsinba-kosherMcDs.jpg [06:29]
TheNewDeal he cries and pees to consultors [06:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07493514 = 0.7494 BTC [-] [06:29]
bitcoinpete !up CryptoConsultor [06:33]
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bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: i wasn't on irc prior to being here. i was on twitter and local meet-ups mostly [06:33]
CryptoConsultor My crypto career is a work in progress. But ya I've had some Computer Security jobs in the past [06:33]
benkay what kind of crypto career are you building? [06:34]
CryptoConsultor Well I hope to transition my old school internet EDU into this new crypto blockchaining fun [06:36]
CryptoConsultor I'm a bit late to the party [06:37]
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bitcoinpete mike_c: if you have identified a small set of awesome investments, why would you put money in something else that is worse? << let them eat cake! [06:38]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: as always, the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago [06:38]
bitcoinpete the second best time is now [06:38]
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bitcoinpete you're not competing with ideal, just reality [06:39]
mike_c the blonde bomber better win [06:39]
CryptoConsultor yea I'm not hung up on missing any boat [06:39]
bitcoinpete mike_c: i have little doubt she will [06:39]
mike_c what is this klye bet you're talking about? [06:40]
CryptoConsultor I'm working really hard to devolop forward momentum [06:40]
bitcoinpete mike_c: not entirely clear, dooglus seems to know tho [06:40]
CryptoConsultor !facts [06:41]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: being here so soon puts you miles ahead of the redditards and coindeskers [06:41]
bitcoinpete and they've been derping for… ever [06:41]
CryptoConsultor I noticed you had some sharp words for the coindeskers [06:41]
bitcoinpete eh they're not that special [06:41]
bitcoinpete i have sharp words for a lot of people lol [06:42]
CryptoConsultor you favor any news sources out there? [06:42]
CryptoConsultor you don't like the podcast crowd either eh? [06:42]
TheNewDeal mike_c looked like there is a proposed bet on kyle dying? [06:42]
bitcoinpete maidsafe, circle, twobitidiot, core devs, seamonster, usa, central banks... [06:43]
TheNewDeal "Mr Kyle lost Kylemax IPO funds, will he be dead or alive in 8 months?" [06:43]
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bitcoinpete TheNewDeal: lmao! [06:43]
TheNewDeal klye* [06:43]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: oh yea, andreas too [06:43]
mike_c ah, proposed [06:44]
TheNewDeal I'm confused why the Kevin Love bet didn't succeed after reading news about him possibly being transferred. Concerned MN native [06:44]
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bitcoinpete well intentioned though they may be, they do harm to themselves and those who pray at their fucktarded feet [06:44]
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bitcoinpete there's some room for compassion in this world but there's also room for being smart and not losing money [06:45]
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CryptoConsultor You'd say that you've done "well" in this game so far? [06:47]
CryptoConsultor You got your hands on coins before the crazyness? [06:48]
TheNewDeal mircea_popescu UStardianism is most definitely a religion, and it's virtually synonymous with christianity [06:48]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: well enough [06:49]
bitcoinpete when "1 inmueble goes for 1 btc" even better [06:50]
CryptoConsultor right awn. I've got happy results even being late to the game [06:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.01980019 = 0.198 BTC [-] [06:51]
CryptoConsultor Edm activity been picking up this last run? [06:51]
TheNewDeal bitcoinpete, haven't you hit some hard times in bitcoin as well? [06:51]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: who was hating on religion earlier ? << danielpbarron, who should also scope out http://econjwatch.org/file_download/822/ReadTalebMay2014.pdf [06:52]
bitcoinpete TheNewDeal: such as… ? [06:52]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: less than the oct/nov run [06:52]
CryptoConsultor You got roots in finance? [06:53]
benkay Well I hope to transition my old school internet EDU into this new crypto blockchaining fun // pardon me, EDU? [06:54]
TheNewDeal maybe I'm thinking of someone else. There was somebody that MP forced writing some GPG signed apology letter / explanation of some really crockety bitcoin stock endeavour [06:54]
CryptoConsultor My first round of Post Secondary school was many many years ago. We learned to txt edit HTML. So yea I got old rusty skills. [06:55]
bitcoinpete TheNewDeal: lol def someone else [06:56]
bitcoinpete first i've heard of a gpg signed apology letter [06:56]
CryptoConsultor I explained to pete that I was once many years ago an active IRC junkie/web coder and then shifted out of web work for industrial paycheques [06:56]
CryptoConsultor this world feels alien to me now. gotta bruch up some old cob webs in the head [06:57]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: been playing with tech stocks for about 15 years, did some lending and gambling as a kid, then started reading taleb and others about 4 years ago and here we are [06:58]
CryptoConsultor you got post secondary ed before then? [07:00]
CryptoConsultor I did a few years at NAIT, but IRC taught me more then any classroom [07:01]
benkay CryptoConsultor: what pays the bills for you now? [07:02]
benkay what is this 'industrial' you mention - word means a lot of things in a lot of contexts. [07:02]
CryptoConsultor Industrial Electrician with specialty in PLC work [07:02]
benkay ah ha [07:02]
benkay production line installations and programming etc? [07:02]
CryptoConsultor Industrial - Mining [07:02]
benkay gotcha [07:03]
CryptoConsultor Yea automated coal processing plant and Diesel Electric drive controls [07:03]
benkay so what do you plan to do with yourself in btc? [07:03]
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bitcoinpete !up CryptoConsultor [07:04]
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CryptoConsultor I gotta work out this gribble stuff to keep my voice eh? [07:04]
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CryptoConsultor BTC has captured my soul and I am now it's slave for life [07:04]
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benkay great attitude lol [07:04]
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CryptoConsultor If you know my background you'd say it was unavoidable [07:05]
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CryptoConsultor I'm pretty good at anaylizing complex systems [07:06]
CryptoConsultor And this stuff give me a huge nerdgasm [07:07]
CryptoConsultor It gets my nerdglaze all over the place [07:07]
bitcoinpete lol [07:07]
CryptoConsultor I was stunned when I went to the Calgary Comic Convention and NOBODY was talkin Bitcoin [07:08]
CryptoConsultor I'm gonna change that [07:08]
CryptoConsultor My nerd brethren let me down [07:08]
bitcoinpete comicers like their little imaginary boxes [07:08]
bitcoinpete finance is to real [07:08]
TheNewDeal they are the yesternerds [07:08]
CryptoConsultor they sure gave up on computer science [07:08]
bitcoinpete they're nerds, we're geeks [07:09]
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bitcoinpete geeks can function in the real world [07:09]
CryptoConsultor well if I have to set up in convention center I will. they seem the best crowd to jump on the bandwagon next [07:09]
bitcoinpete and more than function, geeks can own the world [07:09]
CryptoConsultor I'm well aware of that [07:09]
bitcoinpete comicnerds aren't the next anything [07:10]
bitcoinpete bitcoin is going to the upper crust and/or making its own [07:10]
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CryptoConsultor Your attention on wall street pretty hard? [07:11]
bitcoinpete my attention is here and needn't be elsewhere [07:11]
bitcoinpete it's wall street's attention that will follow [07:12]
CryptoConsultor You guys notice when their movements with ease? [07:12]
CryptoConsultor Well let's back up first... [07:13]
TheNewDeal did I understand this correctly that the namecoin network hashrate is sitting at about half that of the bitcoin network? [07:13]
bitcoinpete asciilifeform: cat experts, chime in - can the animal tunnel << gonna say no [07:13]
mike_c TheNewDeal: mergemining [07:14]
CryptoConsultor gotta grab a quick refill [07:14]
TheNewDeal I understand that it is mergmined, but the fact that a coin is mergmined does not guarantee anyone considers it worth mining, no? [07:14]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: it is better to be stupid and appear stupid than to be stupid and appear a ceo. << à la kyle [07:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 216 @ 0.003001 = 0.6482 BTC [-] [07:15]
mike_c TheNewDeal: true.. but i am seeing the same numbers as you. 45 ph/s [07:16]
bitcoinpete TheNewDeal: 45.239 Phash/s… but how? [07:16]
TheNewDeal methinks that people must believe it is worth mining [07:16]
TheNewDeal judging by the numbers, half as worthy [07:16]
CryptoConsultor isn't namecoin tied to decentralized DNS? [07:17]
CryptoConsultor or do I got wires crossed? [07:18]
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bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: pretty mucho [07:20]
TheNewDeal they are crossed correctly [07:20]
bitcoinpete there's a fantastically intense couple's fight going on in the apartment next door [07:20]
TheNewDeal I'm actually just beginning to read about it now, after it being mentioned yeshterday in the lawgs [07:20]
bitcoinpete these late 19th century brick buildings don't shield sound like newer ones [07:21]
TheNewDeal if you swoop in at the right time, you could get some revenge sex [07:21]
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peterl TheNewDeal: I think it was me you are thinking of with the gpg signed letter [07:22]
CryptoConsultor I can ident on gribble with a bitcoin address too? [07:22]
TheNewDeal ahh, so few petes, so easy to confuse [07:22]
bitcoinpete peterl: right! [07:23]
peterl hey, I'm peter, he is pete [07:23]
bitcoinpete forgot about that... [07:23]
bitcoinpete lol [07:23]
TheNewDeal they're all petes to me [07:23]
bitcoinpete CryptoConsultor: myeah [07:23]
peterl and MP did not force me to write it, he just made a friendly suggestion [07:23]
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TheNewDeal half of what I say is gibberish, and must be taken for granted [07:24]
TheNewDeal bc, stats [07:24]
cazalla almost all of you are named either peter or paul [07:24]
TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats [07:25]
gribble Current Blocks: 304597 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1834 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11643866275.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.95849 [07:25]
TheNewDeal oh my gribbles this has been a slow start to the diff change [07:25]
peterl cazalla: don't forget the marys [07:26]
peterl isn't there a bitbet about difficulty dropping? [07:26]
TheNewDeal I'm going to put out TheNewDeal's current prediction of 6.9% increase [07:26]
cazalla i think you mean marie but i get confused myself [07:26]
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bitcoinpete []bot: Bet created: "Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion" http://bitbet.us/bet/888/ << pretty much no other choices [07:27]
assbot BitBet - Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion :: 0.06 B (60%) on Yes, 0.04 B (40%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`893 (100`000 to 1) [07:27]
TheNewDeal yes and it pays out 1.32 at 1 BTC with a timeweight of only 6,000 [07:27]
TheNewDeal but you would be betting basically that one of the next two diff changes is going to be negative [07:28]
TheNewDeal crawling over bitbets is my second job [07:29]
bitcoinpete ok, i'm crashing [07:30]
bitcoinpete thanks for dropping by CryptoConsultor [07:30]
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CryptoConsultor Yea cheers pete [07:30]
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CryptoConsultor I'll keep reading up on this gribble guy. He's a lot more fancy than the eggbots I used to know [07:31]
CryptoConsultor Thanks for the invite too [07:31]
TheNewDeal gribble's a boss, but he's notorious for underpredicting diff increases [07:32]
TheNewDeal ;;rate gribble 1 notorious for underpredicting difficulty increases [07:33]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user gribble has been recorded. [07:33]
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CryptoConsultor ok I think I got reg with gribble now. Is that assbot going to stop -v me? [07:37]
mike_c ;;ident CryptoConsultor [07:37]
gribble Nick 'CryptoConsultor', with hostmask 'CryptoConsultor!~Hoodmin@S0106000f66a91966.hn.shawcable.net', is not identified. [07:37]
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peterl you also have to be in assbot's L2 trust to voice yourself [07:38]
peterl ;;gettrust assbot CryptoConsultor [07:38]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CryptoConsultor: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=CryptoConsultor | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CryptoConsultor | Rated since: never [07:38]
CryptoConsultor hmmm [07:38]
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BingoBoingo dooglus: I assumed you paid him as he claimed, because soon afterwards his confessional went missing (Kingofsports that is) [07:39]
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BingoBoingo CryptoConsultor: Probably part of the reason is that gribble isn't an eggbot, forked supybot [07:44]
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dooglus BingoBoingo: I don't remember, but I don't think i would have given him anything [07:45]
dooglus BingoBoingo: I published his piece on the blog, and allowed him to put up a donation address [07:46]
BingoBoingo dooglus: His confessional may have mentioned Deb instead. I only remember the matter because I at one point sold him some single bitcoins until he got pissy I wouldn't sell him tens and send first at the same time. [07:46]
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dooglus http://just-dice.blogspot.ca/2014/01/gambling-addiction-kos.html [07:49]
assbot Just-News @ Just-Dice: Gambling Addiction - KOS [07:49]
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dooglus assbot: that'll be 1 mBTC for reading that post please ;) [07:51]
Vexual now theres a man who knows how to gamble [07:51]
mircea_popescu does anyone have any intel on who created the WTI bet / why? << intel ? [07:51]
Vexual gambling rehab should teach mathematics [07:52]
dooglus and paragraphs [07:52]
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mircea_popescu isnt .1 cent a bit expoensive ? [07:54]
peterl expensive for what? [07:55]
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mircea_popescu for assbot [07:56]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete: [07:56]
mircea_popescu other_mp: you should see the jewish section btw.>> like so? http://wander-argentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/WA-jewsinba-kosherMcDs.jpg << nah, like 1930 warsaw. [07:56]
peterl does assbot pay for trilema credits? [07:56]
Vexual no, the header is free [07:57]
peterl MP gives head for free? [07:57]
mircea_popescu mike_c: the blonde bomber better win << don't hate halep just because she is young and eager and in better shape and scrappy [07:57]
mircea_popescu and going to win [07:57]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: "Mr Kyle lost Kylemax IPO funds, will he be dead or alive in 8 months?" << that ain't gonna work. [07:58]
Vexual id hope not [07:58]
asciilifeform mike_c: you couldn't find one example of ascii promoting s.nsa shares << well, let's be fair, i never said 'don't do it' - hence, wagen. [07:59]
asciilifeform decimation: GHz 7400 parts: ECL? [08:00]
asciilifeform decimation: ECL easily gives you 50-80 GHz [08:00]
asciilifeform decimation: no exotic chemistries, either - ordinary Si. [08:00]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 were you going for norway << that was diametric [08:01]
mircea_popescu aok [08:01]
mircea_popescu !up jborkl [08:01]
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mircea_popescu well so ave him read taleb [08:01]
jborkl Thank you [08:02]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: did I understand this correctly that the namecoin network hashrate is sitting at about half that of the bitcoin network? < it's mergemined [08:03]
mircea_popescu the correct construction is that "about half bitcoin miners also merge namecoin" [08:03]
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jborkl That sounds correct [08:03]
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asciilifeform Vexual: gambling rehab should teach mathematics << what'll they teach in mathematics rehab ? [08:06]
mircea_popescu how to chase skirts. [08:07]
peterl didn't John Nash have a big breakthrough in math while chasing skirts? [08:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0764989 = 0.3825 BTC [+] [08:08]
asciilifeform peterl: in the american film, where he was straight [08:08]
peterl what, you mean the film does not stay true to the original story? I'm shocked /sarcasm [08:09]
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mircea_popescu anyway, that's all for me. tomorrow! [08:11]
jborkl Mircea if you have not been by the site lately. I just finished the diff calculator. [08:11]
jborkl And a whole bunch of other shit [08:12]
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decimation asciilifeform: yeah I forgot about ECL. The point is, discrete logic need not be slow. However, at high speeds propagation delay is going to be a serious issue, which implies distributed clockless dataflow design. [08:13]
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asciilifeform decimation: which is why the 'real fun' would be muller's 'c-gate', which doesn't care about delay [08:15]
asciilifeform and needs no clock [08:16]
asciilifeform 'How long can something be held as wrong before its practice is discontinued? A long, very long time, much longer than we think.' << from mp's taleb page. in our case, synchronous logic. [08:17]
asciilifeform it's just braindamaged. [08:17]
asciilifeform c-gate is known since '58. [08:17]
asciilifeform (no, not a typo) [08:17]
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decimation mircea_popescu: Have you seen propaganda related to the Falklands war? It's my understanding that the AR gov't uses it to stir up the masses [08:21]
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dub so much trollin in the btc [13:56]
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fluffypony http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27iyhl/remember_the_guy_who_gambled_5025_btc_away_1_week/ [14:02]
fluffypony man [14:02]
assbot Remember the guy who gambled 50.25 BTC away 1 week ago? : Bitcoin [14:02]
fluffypony that is so sad [14:02]
fluffypony that dude needs help stat [14:02]
fluffypony dooglus: can't you set it up so that when he logs in again to JD it does a 301 to some gambler's anonymous service? [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00085216 = 23.8179 BTC [-] {4} [14:06]
dub help is only a bullet away [14:10]
cazalla how would that stop them gambling [14:11]
cazalla they had an inquiry on gambling addiction here in australia due to all the degenerates spending their kids lunch money on poker machines [14:11]
cazalla result was counselling was a waste of time and money [14:12]
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fluffypony cazalla: I dunno, I've never known anyone in that situation, so I'm not sure how you stop them [14:15]
fluffypony besides a swift kick to the balls every time they want to gamble [14:16]
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fluffypony usagi responds to the video clip: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7178946#msg7178946 [14:55]
assbot BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] [14:55]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600628.msg7161926#msg7161926 [14:57]
assbot BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today [14:57]
fluffypony "@fluffyponny @jurov @davout @pankkake please stay out now from this postings, everyone know now that only 4 or 5 guys from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ IRC chat only claims problems with us how sad is that for you guys, do you not have any work in real life? do you only accuse other companies of scam and more, each forum member looks to your profile history can see that the only people accuse others of scam are a small group talking 24 [14:58]
fluffypony hours in a IRC chat and think about who is next they can accuse of shit things! Poor very poor!" [14:58]
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fluffypony lol! [14:58]
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pankkake this is actually accurate. but after all, most things are a scam [14:59]
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kakobrekla tbh i dont think he knows he is scamming [15:07]
pankkake I have a wide definition of scam :) claiming competence while you don't have it = scam [15:08]
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danielpbarron how sad is that for you guys, do you not have any work in real life? do you only accuse other companies of scam and more << the false teachers make an identical claim; not much difference when it comes to scammers [15:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 152 @ 0.00248735 = 0.3781 BTC [-] {6} [15:33]
pankkake http://www.coindesk.com/central-bankers-digital-money-institution-control/ [15:33]
assbot Central Bankers Argue Digital Currency Requires Institutional Control [15:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.0024 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2} [15:34]
Apocalyptic heh [15:44]
Apocalyptic "Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank" [15:45]
Apocalyptic missed the entire point, sadly [15:46]
pankkake it's the coindesk/reddit thinking that bitcoin is only about payments, forgetting the digital gold [15:47]
fluffypony ;;gettrust frankenmint [15:49]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user frankenmint: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=frankenmint | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=frankenmint | Rated since: never [15:49]
fluffypony ;;rate frankenmint 1 OpenRigs customer, and newly appointed /r/bitcoin mod [15:49]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user frankenmint has been recorded. [15:49]
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-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [16:31]
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mircea_popescu decimation: mircea_popescu: Have you seen propaganda related to the Falklands war? It's my understanding that the AR gov't uses it to stir up the masses << english propaganda is generally not to be taken seriously. [16:34]
mircea_popescu there's genuine anti english sentiment here, much like there's genuine anti-muslim and anti-indian sentiment in the uk. [16:34]
mircea_popescu the governments generally do the best practicable to manage it, the opposition generally accuse the government of pandering [16:35]
mircea_popescu then pander when in power. [16:35]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: dooglus: can't you set it up so that when he logs in again to JD it does a 301 to some gambler's anonymous service? << what's that to help ? [16:36]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I feel bad for the guy [16:36]
mircea_popescu soyou do. so do i. like so : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2014#705595 [16:36]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [16:36]
fluffypony lol Usagi - "You are not capable of doing work on the projects I am working on -- you're not qualified." [16:36]
mircea_popescu the vacant stare of the parents, or in other words " the worst thing that could ever have happened to your children is having met you." [16:37]
mircea_popescu anyway, *you* don't stop them. you just stop your wife and children from being thesort of retards, and then make *them* live in the most abject conditions available. [16:38]
fluffypony agreed [16:39]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600628.msg7166799#msg7166799 << lol [16:40]
assbot BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today [16:40]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: what's even better is that Usagi quoted BitcoinBourse as a defence [16:40]
mircea_popescu "only four or five people that happen to matter in btc finance say im a scammer, because the rest can't be bothered, and so please ignore everything bad you ever hear (about me)" [16:40]
mircea_popescu next post, anon guy "fu you owe me money since last year" [16:40]
mircea_popescu so much win. [16:40]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: tbh i dont think he knows he is scamming << seems credible. [16:41]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic: [16:42]
mircea_popescu "Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank" <<< in the dreamland they inhabit, where saying makes it so, central bankers can issue currencies which will matter because they say so, and the sec can matter because it's the sec and nobody has to cut a deal with me first or anything. [16:42]
mircea_popescu should be fun to see how this works out in the end. [16:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11877 @ 0.00085348 = 10.1368 BTC [+] [16:44]
fluffypony pankkake: I don't get "13991b1bd4d0c6f1c77954128922cb80bda602a7e8c893772e321dd6d6fdfba2" [16:46]
fluffypony (just saw it now) [16:46]
pankkake no real reason, it's a hash of the old post contents [16:47]
fluffypony ah ok [16:47]
pankkake ;;view [16:48]
gribble Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?nick=pankkake to see the list of matching orders. [16:48]
pankkake lol [16:48]
pankkake ;;view 20705 [16:49]
gribble #20705 Sat Jun 7 07:18:31 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 Bitcointalk script @ 0.1337 BTC (Script to remove or mass edit your bitcointalk posts, comes with unlimited support or can run it for you) [16:49]
fluffypony but they stay on bitcointa.lk forever [16:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00085232 = 14.1485 BTC [-] {3} [16:49]
pankkake yes, which isn't bad at all [16:50]
mircea_popescu pankkake expensive no ? [16:51]
mircea_popescu .1337 is more thanthe entire forum software costs [16:51]
fluffypony wtf [16:52]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/5eOn0qq.jpg [16:52]
fluffypony does that take you to the image directly [16:52]
fluffypony or to the imgur page? [16:52]
mircea_popescu image [16:52]
Apocalyptic image [16:52]
fluffypony that's bizarre [16:52]
pankkake price is based on my support time costs [16:52]
fluffypony not working here [16:53]
mircea_popescu who's chinny ? :D [16:53]
fluffypony oh weird - works in Opera, but not in Firefox or Safari [16:53]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: wife - if you zoom in you see your messages on IRC [16:53]
fluffypony you're in blue [16:53]
mircea_popescu im just trying to bother her :D [16:53]
fluffypony heh heh [16:53]
pankkake there seems to be no rule of editing old posts on .lk either by the way. so if interested, I can write it too [16:54]
mircea_popescu pankkake forums are kinda doomed imo. [16:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0747 = 0.2241 BTC [+] [16:56]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/?topic=553092.msg6880213 [17:10]
assbot MPEx owner in danger of being extradited to US to face charges | Page 9 | Bitcointa.lk [17:10]
mircea_popescu they are however quite lulzy. [17:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2767 = 0.5534 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00239829 = 0.4797 BTC [-] [17:13]
pankkake https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bmf-has-lost-access-to-its-wallet-unmoderated.321563/page-4#post-6841528 he deleted this post. [17:13]
assbot BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UNMODERATED] | Page 4 | Bitcointa.lk [17:13]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [17:13]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.5, Best ask: 655.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 653.5, 24 hour volume: 8869.22193161, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 662.0, 24 hour vwap: 0 [17:14]
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fluffypony pankkake: what's he talking about? [17:16]
pankkake interestingly the only one I accused of deleting posts was Goat [17:17]
mircea_popescu not much of an accusation that [17:17]
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mircea_popescu pankkake what purpose do you suppose adding a hash serves ? [17:17]
mircea_popescu he whocan modify the post can modify the hash [17:17]
mircea_popescu proper solution would be to make a gpg key for the forum and sign everything [17:18]
mircea_popescu sorta like proper mailing lists work [17:18]
pankkake the main purpose is that people wonder what it is :D [17:18]
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mircea_popescu aok [17:18]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bmf-has-lost-access-to-its-wallet-unmoderated.321563/page-4#post-6818061 [17:18]
assbot BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UNMODERATED] | Page 4 | Bitcointa.lk [17:19]
mircea_popescu epic shit. [17:19]
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mircea_popescu Sydboy said: ↑ What does it feel like to be so stupid you lose money, or other people money ?usagi : I don't know. [17:19]
pankkake the few posts of Goat that were archived show how much he trusted pirate wasn't a ponzi. If you're looking for lulz. [17:19]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I think Usagi threatened him and he backed down [17:19]
pankkake and many other guys that have nice great trust and VIP status [17:19]
pankkake green* [17:20]
fluffypony he's suddenly apologised for being so mean or whatever [17:20]
mircea_popescu pankkake well i was there, i remember it. [17:20]
mircea_popescu the sec is too bitchy to work towards actually putting the guilty in the can tho. [17:20]
mircea_popescu better waste time/taxpayer money on idle pretense. [17:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00085073 = 12.4207 BTC [-] {2} [17:21]
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Apocalyptic !up deanclkclk [17:27]
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Apocalyptic !up deanclkclk [17:27]
* assbot gives voice to deanclkclk [17:27]
deanclkclk hmm [17:27]
Apocalyptic deanclkclk, you have to be voiced to talk [17:27]
deanclkclk ok what was wrong before? [17:27]
deanclkclk @ Apocalyptic [17:27]
Apocalyptic noting, you need someone to give you voice [17:28]
Apocalyptic *nothing [17:28]
deanclkclk ok thx [17:28]
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Apocalyptic unless you're in assbot's L2 trust [17:28]
mircea_popescu it won't last either [17:28]
deanclkclk lol [17:28]
mircea_popescu !up Swadq [17:28]
deanclkclk nope [17:28]
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Swadq Thanks :o [17:28]
mircea_popescu yw. [17:28]
deanclkclk so I'm in the process of setting up a crypto exchange in the Caribbean [17:28]
deanclkclk i need some advice [17:28]
mircea_popescu what, without a wot ? [17:28]
pankkake fiat/btc? [17:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27671344 BTC [+] [17:29]
deanclkclk fiat trading currencies are USD, CAD, Bahamian Dollar, Trinidad Dollar and Jamaican Dollar [17:30]
deanclkclk BTC and LTC [17:30]
deanclkclk I'm trying to go through OKPay system for my setup but, they are extremely slow. Anyone knows of an alternative payment processor which gives an Bank Account for wire transfer? [17:30]
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deanclkclk and also...how can I get trusted by the community ? [17:32]
deanclkclk I am aware that there is a trust issue going on here with most exchanges [17:33]
mircea_popescu a) get in the wot ; b) spend the next half year to a year reading hte logs [17:33]
mircea_popescu by then you'll be trusted [17:33]
deanclkclk in case anyone is interested and want to know the services I offer...feel free to ask [17:33]
deanclkclk ok [17:33]
pankkake http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation [17:34]
assbot wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] [17:34]
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pankkake "We learn the most from our mistakes (myself included!)" [17:39]
mircea_popescu ;;notes [17:40]
gribble I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitcoingirl, cevidad, congrats, hydruid, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, and ryepdx. [17:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27671344 = 0.5534 BTC [+] {2} [17:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2767 = 0.8301 BTC [-] {2} [17:41]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00231546 = 0.1297 BTC [-] {7} [17:45]
pankkake http://www.coindesk.com/how-bitcoin-helps-afghan-girls-achieve-financial-freedom/ [17:46]
assbot How Bitcoin Helps Afghan Girls Achieve Financial Freedom [17:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27670064 = 0.5534 BTC [+] [17:47]
mircea_popescu for the love of the stupid seed! [17:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27670054 BTC [-] [17:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2767 = 0.5534 BTC [-] [17:53]
pankkake http://torrentfreak.com/how-kim-dotcoms-5m-whistleblower-bounty-will-work-140607/ [17:55]
assbot How Kim Dotcom's $5m Whistleblower Bounty Will Work | TorrentFreak [17:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0024 = 0.24 BTC [+] [17:55]
pankkake http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5831 [17:56]
assbot Hoping for the crazy [17:56]
deanclkclk question mircea_popescu so I have a WOT account..how does it even work in respect to irc chats? [17:56]
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deanclkclk you recommended this to me around Nov last year [17:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0024 = 0.1752 BTC [+] [17:56]
mircea_popescu ;;ident deanclkclk [17:56]
gribble Nick 'deanclkclk', with hostmask 'deanclkclk!~deanclkcl@bas10-toronto01-845463865.dsl.bell.ca', is not identified. [17:56]
mircea_popescu you identify. [17:57]
deanclkclk hmmm [17:57]
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pankkake !up deanclkclk [17:59]
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mircea_popescu you ony get it for half hour. [17:59]
pankkake !up deanclkclk [17:59]
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deanclkclk ohh ok [17:59]
deanclkclk why so short? [17:59]
deanclkclk so yeah you did the ident thing and it said I'm not indentifed? [17:59]
mircea_popescu yes. [17:59]
deanclkclk but, as I said..I have my WOT account [18:00]
mircea_popescu so identify to gribble. [18:00]
deanclkclk gribble? an alternative to freenode? [18:00]
deanclkclk I identify myself to freenode FYI [18:00]
fluffypony deanclkclk: an entirely different set of identifications [18:01]
deanclkclk ok so I'm lost [18:01]
* fluffypony deanclkclk: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Beginners_Guide [18:01]
fluffypony start there [18:01]
assbot Beginners Guide - bitcoin-otc wiki [18:01]
deanclkclk do I need to have a rating to be known by gribble? [18:06]
deanclkclk not sure but, I have this account since last nov [18:06]
deanclkclk deanclkclk [18:06]
pankkake ;;gpg info deanclkclk [18:07]
gribble No such user registered. [18:07]
deanclkclk wtf girbble??!!! [18:07]
pankkake you registered with gribble? [18:07]
Apocalyptic probably not, he's talking about the nickserv account [18:08]
Apocalyptic -NickServ- Information on deanclkclk (account deanclkclk): [18:08]
Apocalyptic -NickServ- Registered : Oct 13 01:14:40 2012 (1 year, 33 weeks, 6 days, 13:53:39 ago) [18:08]
Apocalyptic as fluffypony said, this is entirely irrelevant to gribble's auth [18:08]
deanclkclk yeah I heard you Apocalyptic https://www.mywot.com/en/signup [18:09]
assbot Safe Browsing Tool | WOT (Web of Trust) [18:09]
deanclkclk that's were I sign up [18:09]
Apocalyptic that's also irrelevant [18:09]
deanclkclk where* [18:09]
Apocalyptic look at the link fluffypony gave you [18:09]
pankkake that's not the same web of trust [18:09]
fluffypony LOL [18:09]
fluffypony deanclkclk: I sent you a link, follow it and read it. [18:10]
deanclkclk no need to laugh at a novice gribble novice fluffypony [18:10]
fluffypony I'm laughing that you didn't even bother to open the link and read it [18:10]
deanclkclk I did actually but, there's a lot of text..sometimes I glance [18:11]
deanclkclk but, yeah I spend the time and read ti [18:11]
deanclkclk it [18:11]
pankkake http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1631 [18:11]
assbot Naming and shaming the AGW fraudsters [18:11]
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deanclkclk by no means I'm a fraud or came here to defraud anyone pankkake [18:12]
fluffypony deanclkclk: that link he posted has nothing to do with you [18:12]
deanclkclk plus mircea_popescu offerd to vet my code lol [18:12]
mircea_popescu i did ? [18:13]
deanclkclk did you forget? [18:13]
deanclkclk yes you did [18:13]
Apocalyptic dat mircea [18:13]
pankkake yeah, read the article :D I'm just dumping my daily read [18:13]
mircea_popescu link ? [18:13]
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mircea_popescu more productive than rethorical questioning. [18:13]
deanclkclk only if irc is smart enough to log chat between two nicks [18:13]
mircea_popescu irc is a network. [18:14]
deanclkclk and I am not kidding [18:14]
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pankkake #bitcoin-assets has public logs [18:14]
mircea_popescu pankkake im too lazy to read that, past the chuckle that deanclkclk thought it is about him somehow [18:15]
deanclkclk I'll rummage through it one day but, not now. Will get back to you mircea_popescu [18:15]
fluffypony maybe he offered to have your code put down at the vote? [18:15]
fluffypony *vet [18:15]
fluffypony ffs. [18:15]
mircea_popescu deanclkclk well as a general rule don't make statements you don't have backing for at the ready. [18:15]
mircea_popescu failure usually results in silence, but i guess im in a good mood. [18:15]
deanclkclk that is true [18:15]
danielpbarron <+deanclkclk> I did actually but, there's a lot of text..sometimes I glance << what BTC address should I throw my money into! Your company sounds amazing! [18:16]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [18:16]
deanclkclk thought you would have remember though if I said it [18:16]
pankkake mircea_popescu, that's how I feel towards some of your blog posts :) [18:16]
fluffypony deanclkclk: I would expect that too - after all, mircea_popescu only has 1 or 2 conversations a year [18:16]
mircea_popescu pankkake i can see that :D fluffypony tops. [18:16]
deanclkclk danielpbarron: you're free not to throw money at my company [18:17]
mircea_popescu ;;google log.bitcoin-assets ibm [18:19]
gribble NEXT: 04-02-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; Is Bitcoin Going to Change the World? | Banking industry: ; Decentralised Digital Asset Registers – Concepts | Richard Gendal ...: [18:19]
mircea_popescu ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets ibm think [18:19]
gribble No matches found. [18:19]
mircea_popescu eh google you're useless. [18:19]
pankkake ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com ibm think [18:19]
gribble NEXT: 10-01-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; NEXT: 04-02-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: ; NEXT: 17-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: [18:19]
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deanclkclk if you guys are looking for the log it's found around November-December last year [18:20]
deanclkclk but, it started out with a few members here calling me an "fucking idiot" [18:21]
deanclkclk lol [18:21]
Apocalyptic heh, sounds legit [18:21]
davout 'but, it started out with a few members here calling me an "fucking idiot"' <<< surprise surprise [18:22]
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fluffypony I'm truly shocked that anyone here would say such a thing [18:22]
fluffypony that certainly doesn't sound eponymous for #bitcoin-assets [18:22]
davout ;;later tell mike_c i want a picture of your warface [18:23]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:23]
deanclkclk surprised that the responses I've gotten today are anything but, unfriendly [18:23]
mircea_popescu so i have survived the largest shock in my adult life. [18:23]
mircea_popescu do you know what is remarkable about rubbing alcohol here in buenos aires ? the sort sold in pharmacies ? [18:24]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: it's not really alcohol ? [18:24]
mircea_popescu it's not DENATURATED. [18:24]
deanclkclk ? [18:24]
mircea_popescu it's not denaturated to the degree that the label lists as indications : for rubbing, [18:24]
mircea_popescu and for making drinks. [18:24]
davout !down deanclkclk [18:25]
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mircea_popescu cromatographically tested too, they say. [18:25]
davout mircea_popescu: do you mean you can get a simple chemical without being infantilized away? [18:25]
mircea_popescu yes. [18:26]
mircea_popescu alcohol, dude! the original fucking statal assholery [18:26]
mircea_popescu i mean you could also get it in romania, liter bottles of triple distilled grain alcohol. but in specialist shops. [18:26]
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punkman yeah pure alcohol is pretty fucking handy [18:30]
punkman can get it in supermarkets/pharmacies here, but it costs 9 eur for 250ml now with all the new taxes, ridiculous [18:32]
mircea_popescu it's actually a much better (safer) fire starter than gasoline [18:32]
punkman I use the denatured stuff for that [18:33]
mircea_popescu well that's slightly unhealthy [18:33]
punkman which is like 1eur a liter [18:33]
punkman why is it unhealthy? [18:33]
mircea_popescu i don't recall whatexactly burn product of methylen blue is dubious but there was something [18:33]
punkman don't need much if you got kindling, burns off in like a couple seconds [18:34]
mircea_popescu don't need any if you got clean alcohol [18:34]
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punkman they actually label the denatured stuff as "lamp/lighting" alcohol [18:38]
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Naphex sup [18:48]
mircea_popescu yo [18:53]
mircea_popescu ah i found a good one [18:57]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c http://trilema.com/2012/rationamente-paraeconomice-sau-despre-saracie/ << this is me telling romanians they suck, prolly one of the harshest. [18:57]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:57]
assbot Rationamente paraeconomice, sau despre saracie pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [18:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76322672 BTC to 8`244 shares, 21388 satoshi per share [18:59]
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Naphex so what is the best cure for rage? [19:03]
fluffypony alcohol [19:03]
fluffypony at least for me [19:03]
Naphex doubt it [19:03]
fluffypony I don't get booze-aggressive [19:03]
fluffypony I get really mellow and giggly [19:03]
Naphex that will turn me on a killing spree [19:03]
Naphex lol [19:03]
fluffypony lol [19:03]
fluffypony Naphex: what's making you rage? [19:04]
Naphex women doh! i got everything else on lock lol [19:04]
fluffypony oh lordie [19:05]
fluffypony chick logic [19:05]
Naphex bored in vienna [19:05]
Naphex shit weekend [19:05]
Naphex j [19:05]
fluffypony don't worry [19:07]
fluffypony this too shall pass [19:07]
pankkake %lb [19:07]
pankkake %tslb [19:07]
pankkake %lastblock [19:07]
danielpbarron <+Naphex> so what is the best cure for rage? << if The Bible ain't your thing, try cannabis [19:07]
pankkake %diff [19:07]
pankkake okay [19:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0237999 = 0.1904 BTC [-] [19:09]
Naphex danielpbarr [19:10]
Naphex danielpbarron: only some crappy marocan brown available [19:10]
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Namworld cannabis wouldn't work for me. I'm kind of relax naturally. Give me anything that alters my mind and I'm no longer going to be happy. [19:11]
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Naphex and it isnt workin :p [19:11]
danielpbarron Naphex, won't find sympathy from me; the cannabis in my local is probably worse [19:11]
punkman Naphex: how about a walk [19:11]
Namworld Not that it doesn't have any effect, but because anything that alters my mind and makes it hard for me to think clearly tends to enrage me. [19:12]
pankkake walks work for me. last time of great stress I walked around for a few hours [19:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00250616 = 0.2757 BTC [-] {5} [19:14]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/klye-or-confession-of-a-degenerate-adnotated/ [19:14]
Namworld Walking is nice. Or cycling. Unless you're downtown in a place with no cycling accomodations. Then no cycling. [19:14]
punkman pff cycle accomodations [19:14]
punkman can barely keep the streets paved [19:16]
mircea_popescu Naphex> doubt it << sex ? [19:16]
punkman but it's nice when the 4x4 don't try to run me over [19:16]
Namworld I wend to Denmark once... so much cycling space, so few cars. [19:16]
Naphex mircea_popescu: yeah going for a drive around vienna [19:17]
punkman yeah denmark and the netherlands are rather wonderful for cycling [19:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-] [19:17]
Naphex gonna check it out maybe i fins a nice puff place [19:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02511077 = 0.2511 BTC [-] {2} [19:18]
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mircea_popescu anyway, yes, generally speaking physical exhaustion. i guess walking can be the same as a spirited bout of skanko-roman wrestling. [19:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27 = 0.54 BTC [-] [19:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00085318 = 2.7302 BTC [+] [19:30]
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Namworld Reading trilema can be fun. Am I the only one who had some actual success trading shoddy shares? Who else in here managed to trade a profit? [19:42]
fluffypony Namworld: I'm too scared to even buy in to shoddy shares [19:43]
Namworld It's not too bad when you don't hold large amounts over extended period but flip shares on the large price difference. [19:44]
Namworld There's not a lot of that since GLBSE/BitFunder/etc tho [19:44]
mircea_popescu Namworld a question a little like "am i the only one who won the lottery" [19:45]
mircea_popescu prolly not. [19:45]
kakobrekla early day of glbse, whatever you put your money in was a winner after a week and a complete lose after two. [19:45]
Namworld No, of course, but I only hear of failed funds. Certainly some people in here did it with some kind of success? They're just not as public since investing for themselves. Was looking to hear about any such person. [19:46]
Naphex google now sends bitbet updates [19:46]
Naphex not bad [19:47]
mircea_popescu there's people doing this thing with ponzis (politely known as "hyip") where they send money and try to take it back out before everyone else. [19:47]
mircea_popescu amusingly enough, this is actually an offense in the western world. [19:47]
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kakobrekla yup, except it wasnt a ponzi it was bubblescam [19:47]
mircea_popescu Namworld ^ that'd explain to you why they tend to be quiet. [19:47]
mircea_popescu always at risk for civil clawback + penal proceedings. [19:47]
mircea_popescu "As for substance abuse I'll admit I like to have a few beers, But for the most part I stay off the drugs as of late." [19:48]
mircea_popescu epic. [19:48]
kakobrekla anyway, people had too much coin at the time [19:49]
kakobrekla still do. [19:49]
mircea_popescu yeah, but then too much was 5mn [19:49]
Namworld I wouldn't mind seeing that. [19:49]
mircea_popescu now, too much is 10-50k [19:49]
mircea_popescu it'll get shaken out. [19:49]
mircea_popescu 99% to 99.8% complete already [19:49]
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Namworld Too bad I sunk most of those profits into BitVPS which needed servers and everything to no avail. BTC price rose too much afterward. [19:52]
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asciilifeform !up Vexual [19:59]
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[]bot Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 464.9239018 BTC. Current weight: 46,470. [20:00]
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mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/ [20:02]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1120.86 B (86%) on Yes, 186.18 B (14%) on No | closing in 8 months 1 week| weight: 75`215 (100`000 to 1) [20:02]
mircea_popescu funny how the wall of no let way to a wall of yes. [20:02]
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pankkake but that was a "sure win"! [20:12]
pankkake Namworld: I had more success trading shit on btctctc than on havecocks [20:14]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [20:16]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 652.58, Best ask: 654.3, Bid-ask spread: 1.72000, Last trade: 654.88, 24 hour volume: 8329.40537220, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 660.25, 24 hour vwap: 0 [20:16]
thestringpuller ;;calc 193000/652 [20:16]
gribble 296.012269939 [20:16]
thestringpuller isnt it currently yes? [20:17]
FabianB "24 hour vwap: 0" [20:18]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: your cookie shipment is far cheaper now [20:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.27999995 = 7.84 BTC [+] {4} [20:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2799999 = 0.56 BTC [-] [20:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28 = 0.84 BTC [+] [20:28]
thestringpuller !mpif [20:29]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021714 BTC (Total: 434.28 BTC) [20:29]
thestringpuller !ticker m f.mpif [20:29]
assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC) [20:29]
Namworld That's why I say there hasn't been as much good arbitrage opportunity. Havelock ain't much good. [20:29]
Namworld Funny thing, arbitrage is normally between 2 markets. For BTC, there's a large price difference on a single market. [20:30]
thestringpuller lol [20:30]
thestringpuller am1 - am100 [20:31]
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benkay plus mircea_popescu offerd to vet my code lol // that'd have been me. [21:31]
Mats_cd03 lol [21:31]
benkay or was that dotcoin... [21:33]
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pankkake I think it was you and him yeah [21:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 18 @ 0.02500205 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2} [21:40]
pankkake http://www.istorage-uk.com/documents/iStorage-datashur-User-Guide.pdf <= So, I bought it. full of lulz, at least it's pretty clear you can't trust it against three letter agencies [21:40]
pankkake apparently "military grade" is aes-256 cbc, and admin pins are good ideas [21:41]
pankkake and silly PIN requirements [21:41]
pankkake the most secure part was the package, crappy plastic shell [21:47]
fluffypony lol [21:47]
pankkake the key itself is nicely built, perfect for a keychain [21:47]
pankkake the other secure part is how you need tiny fingers to enter the PIN :) [21:47]
pankkake this serves my intended purpose though, making tampering with it harder [21:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0198202 = 0.1982 BTC [-] [21:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07457 = 0.2237 BTC [-] {2} [21:50]
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Mats_cd03 lol [21:53]
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Mats_cd03 security through obscurity is a legit layer of defense [21:54]
Mats_cd03 i hope its not the only one though [21:54]
thestringpuller fluffypony you around? [21:54]
fluffypony does the pope wear a funny hat? [21:54]
pankkake I don't have anything that is not software encrypted [21:54]
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fluffypony pankkake: you've been propositioned - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7185435#msg7185435 [22:00]
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Namworld Paint it black too [22:07]
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benkay hey tokyopotato [22:33]
benkay !up tokyopotato [22:33]
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tokyopotato hey man, thanks [22:33]
benkay figure out the web of trust yet? [22:33]
tokyopotato i could use a little help i think [22:33]
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tokyopotato i tried registering... used multibit wallet address... but gribble wouldn't recognize the authentication [22:34]
tokyopotato so, i was going to try it another way [22:35]
benkay well i'm having breakfast with a babe atm, so i can't help atm [22:35]
benkay later ;_ [22:35]
tokyopotato cool [22:35]
tokyopotato disfrute [22:35]
tokyopotato la chica [22:35]
tokyopotato y desayuno tambien [22:35]
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BingoBoingo tokyopotato: Which version of Multibit? [22:38]
tokyopotato 0.5.18 [22:38]
BingoBoingo WHY???? [22:39]
BingoBoingo 0.5.11 is the last version I can stand, before too many unfeatures got tacked on... [22:39]
tokyopotato i really just needed to have a pubkey for the authentication [22:39]
BingoBoingo What's so wrong with GPG? [22:40]
tokyopotato is that your preferred client? [22:40]
tokyopotato oh nm [22:40]
tokyopotato lol [22:40]
tokyopotato nothing is wrong with GPG [22:40]
tokyopotato that's what I have to do now [22:40]
tokyopotato GPG4win decent? [22:41]
mircea_popescu apparently "military grade" is aes-256 cbc, and admin pins are good ideas << herp [22:43]
mircea_popescu zulu military. [22:43]
mircea_popescu lmao cryptovest. im waiting for the cryptopants [22:45]
BingoBoingo tokyopotato: If you have an extra hard drive or machine giving a *nix a try might be useful. I've heard a lot of complaints of GPG4win just not... working... [22:45]
tokyopotato ya, i do have ubuntu on my other laptop [22:46]
tokyopotato k [22:46]
mircea_popescu i have no idea where gpg win gets its entropy from [22:46]
diametric microsoft [22:47]
mircea_popescu srsly. [22:47]
mircea_popescu fluffypony Do you have any concept of the moral high ground? You think you've won some kind of game here -- but you have no idea what you lost, do you? [22:47]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I know, right? [22:47]
mircea_popescu whenever some wild eye enthusiast extols "free market" to me ima link them to usagi. [22:47]
mircea_popescu in a free market anything goes, right ? including that paralyzing nonsense. [22:48]
mircea_popescu soon enough the expense of distinguishing becomes prohibitive, and the society is split : the very rich, who can afford freedom [22:48]
mircea_popescu and the not rich enough, whoi can enjoy ipads. [22:48]
fluffypony "I HAVE SO MANY PLANS. SECRET PLANS. AMAZING BUT HIDDEN PLANS. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. YOU. DON'T. EVEN. KNOW. AND YOU COULD'VE HAD A PIECE OF THE ACTION BECAUSE I AM A BENEVOLENT GOD AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU BUT I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A PIECE. AND NOW YOU FUCKED THAT UP. SO SORRY FOR YOU!" - Usagi, 2014 [22:49]
mircea_popescu that's not the construction i see [22:49]
mircea_popescu i suspect it's more like "you show yourself to be a bad person by arguing with usagi" [22:49]
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fluffypony there's that too [22:51]
benkay filter the market with capital barriers, then. [22:51]
fluffypony you know how they bitch about smoking and they're like "every pack takes 2 days off your lifespan" ? [22:52]
tokyopotato Usagi = Jed McCaleb? [22:52]
fluffypony I feel like arguing with Usagi has taken 2 days off my lifespan. [22:52]
mircea_popescu nah. [22:52]
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mircea_popescu !up sedeki [22:52]
-assbot- You voiced sedeki for 30 minutes. [22:52]
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sedeki thanks [22:52]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: I swear the most useful side effect of recommending a 6 month reading and waiting period is to sort out the fucking Dice addicts. << on the first tier fo sho. [22:53]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: See, I can respect certain kinds of gambling like picky sports betting and BitBet. I can't comprehend people who bet against RNGs though. Seems like the fastest way to provide someone else a steady income. [22:57]
mircea_popescu you know im like 10 or 20 btc ahead on jd do you ? [22:58]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah. You bet though tto prove a point. [22:58]
mircea_popescu well sure [22:58]
BingoBoingo There's a difference between that and the forumer seeking a fortune. [22:59]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Also, sorry about Halp [22:59]
BingoBoingo *Halep [22:59]
mircea_popescu a shelost ? [23:00]
mircea_popescu i been out on the town [23:00]
BingoBoingo Looks like it. [23:00]
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mircea_popescu a well. good show anyway [23:01]
BingoBoingo http://bitbet.us/bet/887/billy-hamilton-rookie-of-the-year/ << Can't think of many less likely candidates for that award... [23:01]
assbot BitBet - Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year :: 0.08 B (45%) on Yes, 0.09 B (55%) on No | closing in 5 months 1 day| weight: 99`454 (100`000 to 1) [23:01]
BingoBoingo Hamilton excels at the running game, but no one cares about that. Can't hit. [23:02]
BingoBoingo Exciting player for sure... Just not in the right way. [23:02]
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tokyopotato ty [23:05]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [23:09]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.52, Best ask: 656.16, Bid-ask spread: 2.64000, Last trade: 655.59, 24 hour volume: 6612.05823318, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 656.84, 24 hour vwap: 0 [23:09]
pankkake fluffypony, this is probably true. force yourself to log out! [23:09]
fluffypony lol [23:09]
pankkake and accept that some people are beyond saving [23:10]
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pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599406.msg7180631#msg7180631 omgizz [23:12]
assbot Cryptovest Financial Services (CVFS) Stock IPO 0.5-4% dividends p/m [23:12]
davout fluffypony: arguing is only useful if both participants are mature enough to accept that they might have to change their position [23:12]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: As someone who argued on the forum for quite some time you are tilting against this sort of inevitability: http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/06/pharmacists/ [23:12]
assbot Its Time for a Change; Pharmacists Tired of Being the Last Stop in a Patients Day | Medical Satire - GomerBlog [23:13]
fluffypony davout: I keep forgetting that I am not worthy to argue with The Great Usagi [23:13]
fluffypony ho. lee. fuck. [23:14]
fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643298.0 [23:14]
assbot [EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft [23:14]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: Seriously this miracle is more ikely http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/03/fibromyalgia-cure/ [23:15]
assbot Doctor Accidentally Heals Fibromyalgia | Medical Satire - GomerBlog [23:15]
fluffypony lol [23:16]
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pankkake guy can't secure his btc and pretends to create "the next step in cryptographic currency" [23:17]
mircea_popescu well sure [23:19]
mircea_popescu universally unsecured cyrpto currencies [23:19]
mircea_popescu "By that point I imagine internet bounty hunters finding your whereabouts are the least of your worries. [23:21]
mircea_popescu Checkmate! [23:21]
mircea_popescu You have 2 options:" [23:21]
mircea_popescu the forum hath spoken! [23:22]
BingoBoingo If you diversify a bit EMunie guy can be Kumala [23:22]
mircea_popescu the guy now has two options, including comandeering the idiot's accountand posting his masturbatory selfies [23:22]
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mircea_popescu wait, 3 options [23:22]
mircea_popescu and also the option to send the internet provider a contract cancellation form [23:22]
mircea_popescu FOUR OPTIONS [23:22]
davout but wait, there's more ! [23:22]
mircea_popescu internet riding unicorn hunterbunterS! [23:23]
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davout !up mdev [23:23]
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mdev thanks [23:24]
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mdev pankkake> guy can't secure his btc and pretends to create "the next step in cryptographic currency" [23:24]
mdev what is that? [23:24]
mircea_popescu "What awaits you is an existence where you dare not raise your head above water, for the fear of someone, somewhere waiting with a golden axe. I am a calculated man with resources, who can be cunning when needs to be, and I will use all resources that I have to track you down, and I will start with those gold axe's." [23:25]
pankkake mdev: look at the bitcointalk link [23:25]
mircea_popescu ahahaha this is kumala and uppity tortilla's son [23:25]
mdev http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/03/fibromyalgia-cure/ [23:25]
mdev ? [23:25]
assbot Doctor Accidentally Heals Fibromyalgia | Medical Satire - GomerBlog [23:25]
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pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643298.0. his sig [23:25]
assbot [EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft [23:25]
mdev oon after these attacks the assailants gained access to several online services I control, and most certainly had some form of access to 1 or more machines on my home network and also our remote servers. [23:26]
mdev i don't get how flooding gives someone access [23:26]
mdev makes no sense [23:26]
fluffypony pankkake: the "next step" they refer to is "giving everyone access to our funds" [23:26]
BingoBoingo mdev: Fibromyalgia is a famous diagnosis of "we can't find anything wrong" that many medical professionals assume to be malingerers and drug seekers. [23:27]
mircea_popescu mdev it's the forum. it doesn't have to make sense, words connote feeling and feeling is all ambitious young folk need. [23:28]
mdev he's talking about 600 BTC stolen being "spilled milk" [23:28]
mdev whatever, that's a trmeendous amont of coins [23:28]
mdev over 300k worth [23:28]
mircea_popescu a) it's peanuts for an actual business ; b) he never had 100 let alone 600. [23:29]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643298.msg7187087#msg7187087 << danielpbarron actually has it. [23:29]
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CheckDavid BingoBoingo: that can only be a joke [23:29]
CheckDavid It is right? [23:30]
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mircea_popescu no, actually, fibromyalgia is non specific pain sundrome [23:30]
mircea_popescu so pretty much "guy is either insane, addicted or annyoing" [23:30]
fluffypony mdev: 300k of what? [23:32]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Some people with the diagnosis move to actual diagnoses. But yeah, the use of the label makes it worthless. [23:33]
mdev $300k [23:34]
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mdev worth of bitcoins [23:34]
mdev he just brushed off like "spilled milk" [23:34]
BingoBoingo !up tokyopotato [23:40]
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tokyopotato ty, almost have pgp setup [23:40]
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BingoBoingo tokyopotato: Ur welcome [23:43]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot enky [23:43]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user enky: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=enky | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=enky | Rated since: never [23:43]
mircea_popescu ;;rate enky 1 FX guy [23:43]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user enky has been recorded. [23:43]
fluffypony !up darlidada [23:43]
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mircea_popescu !up Enky [23:43]
-assbot- You voiced Enky for 30 minutes. [23:43]
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mircea_popescu now you can self-voice. [23:43]
fluffypony darlidada: you still keen on taking on that #bitcoin-assets synopsis / archiving project? [23:44]
Enky Hi, thank you [23:44]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76192.msg845180#msg845180 [23:45]
assbot #bitcoin-assets [GLBSE/MPEX] now or IRC [23:45]
mircea_popescu 2 years! [23:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.02699967 = 0.243 BTC [+] [23:45]
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FabianB ;;isitdown mpex.co [23:47]
gribble mpex.co is down [23:47]
mircea_popescu it pings... [23:48]
mircea_popescu but it dun web anymoar! [23:48]
FabianB hm, coinbr proxy works for me [23:49]
mircea_popescu a, smartass ddos kid. [23:49]
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FabianB lol, why are they even still trying? [23:50]
fluffypony boredom I suppose [23:51]
tokyopotato ill be back later to finish this battle [23:51]
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mircea_popescu !up grahvity [23:51]
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mircea_popescu well, kids are born poor but by the time they reach adolescence they become (at least in their estimation) strong. [23:51]
mircea_popescu somehow this inequity has to be resolved. [23:52]
mircea_popescu this being the long version of "boredom" [23:52]
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darlidada <+fluffypony> darlidada: you still keen on taking on that #bitcoin-assets synopsis / archiving project? --- yes i'm sitll up for it [23:55]
fluffypony ok cool [23:55]
mircea_popescu that's a load. [23:55]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I know [23:55]
fluffypony he doesn't have 8 hours a day right now, but he'll get there [23:56]
fluffypony and I'll fund him till he's done [23:56]
mircea_popescu pretty cool [23:56]
mircea_popescu darlidada what's your degree in [23:56]
mircea_popescu ? [23:56]
fluffypony imho the collection of knowledge is worthwhile [23:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31291 @ 0.00085187 = 26.6559 BTC [-] {2} [23:56]
darlidada mircea_popescu: i've done 3 years in philosophy so far; a bit of accounting/economy before but i wasnt really into it so i forgot most of it. i'm one of these brain-damaged kids you write about. i'm doing my best to cure myself though [23:58]
fluffypony so you cure yourself through accumulating knowledge :) [23:58]
mircea_popescu sounds pretty good. [23:58]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The only accomplishment of feminism this year was this shitty comic by a dude http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2086 [23:59]
assbot Shortpacked! by David Willis - Oy Vey Sex Toy [23:59]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo don't sel them short, feminists accomplished some spectacular blowjobs this year. [23:59]
BingoBoingo darlidada: Which is your favorite of Descartes, Spinoza, and Leibitz [23:59]
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