Forum logs for 07 Apr 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-otc | [03:01] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. | http://bitcoin-otc.com/ | http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 | Start with the ;;guide | Before trading, talk to people, and check ratings. | Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud | Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc | Bitcoin VPS: http://bitvps.com | BTC → MP @ http://btcpak.com | Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe | [03:01] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Wed Apr 4 06:47:00 2012 | [03:01] |
paulo_ | what about Paypal to Alertpay? | [03:02] |
Azelphur | paulo_: I'd assume that falls under the same rules | [03:02] |
paulo_ | i mean, buy alertpay credits with paypal? | [03:02] |
rg | NOTICE: someone order me dinner online. only way to get BTC for credit card | [03:02] |
c1b3rshad3 | pp is the enemy | [03:02] |
paulo_ | too bad i receive most revenue through paypal | [03:03] |
c1b3rshad3 | do you sell btc for pp usd paulo? what price? | [03:03] |
mircea_popescu | paulo_ : get registered, do a few small trades with people to build your trust, you'll be fine. | [03:03] |
Azelphur | I should register o/ | [03:03] |
paulo_ | c1b3rshad3: not right now, sorry | [03:04] |
Azelphur | ;;guide | [03:04] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: any news? | [03:04] |
c1b3rshad3 | i'm registered... at least i think i am. i haven't done any trades yet. i have good feedback on ebay though. | [03:04] |
mircea_popescu | heya smickles. gonna announce in half hour or so. | [03:04] |
smickles | :D | [03:04] |
Azelphur | yea I have ebay feedback too although all buying | [03:04] |
c1b3rshad3 | my name doesn't show on the web of trust page cuz i haven't done any trades right? my feedback is exclusively selling | [03:05] |
c1b3rshad3 | on ebay i mean | [03:05] |
rg | why does no one want to buy me dinner | [03:05] |
rg | for bitcoins | [03:05] |
rg | you guys suck | [03:05] |
Azelphur | lol | [03:05] |
paulo_ | anyone accept alertpay? | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | c1b3rshad3 nio, you need to register with the wot. | [03:05] |
paulo_ | i'll plan to buy some, but after the weekend | [03:06] |
c1b3rshad3 | where you at? rg? i have dominoes deliver to you (thanks mircea) and you pay me in btc.. wait.. you pay first | [03:06] |
seco | c1b3rshad3: you can verify you registered by checking if an empty profile has gpg-key added: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=c1b3rshad3 so yes you are :) | [03:06] |
rg | fuck dominos | [03:06] |
rg | and i dont pay first | [03:06] |
rg | ;;getrating rg | [03:06] |
gribble | User rg, created on Sun Jun 5 10:39:49 2011. Cumulative rating 165, from 80 total ratings. Received ratings: 80 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 78 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=rg Currently authenticated from hostmask rg!~james@deadchildren.org | [03:06] |
c1b3rshad3 | oh yes well in that case where do you want delivery from? | [03:06] |
smickles | deadchildren.org | [03:06] |
* | smickles clicks | [03:06] |
rg | smickles: its a throwaway email service | [03:07] |
smickles | oh | [03:07] |
rg | c1b3rshad3 are you US based? | [03:07] |
c1b3rshad3 | yes | [03:07] |
rg | ok cool then you can order for me | [03:07] |
rg | the place i like only likes US credit cards when you order online | [03:07] |
smickles | c1b3rshad3: buying rg dinner is like a rite of passage here | [03:07] |
smickles | plus you get coins out of it | [03:08] |
rg | if you chargeback my pizza place | [03:08] |
rg | i will fly to your house | [03:08] |
rg | and beat you up | [03:08] |
rg | ive done it once | [03:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | lol.. | [03:08] |
seco | c1b3rshad3: would be more kind if you let rg get his food before he pays you: he(165) has better trust then you(0) :p | [03:08] |
rg | i am not kidding | [03:08] |
smickles | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | [03:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | what is deadchildren.org? it didn't bring anything up | [03:08] |
rg | i gotta decide what i want | [03:09] |
rg | just go to spamdecoy.net | [03:09] |
c1b3rshad3 | yes food first is fine because of his good standing | [03:09] |
rg | c1b3rshad3: im gonna give you the menu URL | [03:09] |
rg | and you look at it | [03:09] |
rg | tell me what YOU would get | [03:09] |
rg | if you were ordering | [03:10] |
seco | i guess you will know why he doesnt come back if he just idles out after meal :D | [03:10] |
Blitzboom | ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) | [03:11] |
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c1b3rshad3 | well its dinner time where i'm at. how bout you? and that site looks like bs | [03:12] |
vragnaroda | Blitzboom: Pick that up! | [03:12] |
Blitzboom | ┻━┻︵(`Д´)/︵┻━┻ | [03:12] |
rg | who cares what it looks like | [03:13] |
rg | its my portal to food | [03:13] |
Blitzboom | we need a new BITMUNCHIES | [03:13] |
Blitzboom | goddamn | [03:13] |
rg | i have no idea what to get | [03:13] |
Blitzboom | https://bitmunchies.com/ | [03:14] |
Blitzboom | someone take it over! | [03:14] |
c1b3rshad3 | yes i was at bitmunchies today hoping to eat | [03:14] |
BTC_Bear | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4-I33dnZMs щ(゚Д゚щ) | [03:15] |
smickles | ;;t | [03:15] |
rg | ok im gonna pick at random | [03:15] |
gribble | щ(゚Д゚щ) - YouTube | [03:15] |
c1b3rshad3 | rg i said is it lunch or dinner there | [03:16] |
c1b3rshad3 | will i get a rating on wob for this? | [03:16] |
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rg | if youre signed up | [03:16] |
c1b3rshad3 | ya'll (i'm from the south) better not be shitting me | [03:16] |
Azelphur | ;;gpg eregister Azelphur CA9D586CF91B91FF | [03:16] |
smickles | rg typically rates people c1 | [03:16] |
rg | you will | [03:16] |
rg | ;;ident c1b3rshad3 | [03:17] |
gribble | Nick 'c1b3rshad3', with hostmask 'c1b3rshad3!~c1b3rshad@30.sub-75-216-76.myvzw.com', is not identified. | [03:17] |
c1b3rshad3 | k i'm down for this | [03:17] |
rg | ^^ no rating | [03:17] |
Azelphur | Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid. :< | [03:17] |
c1b3rshad3 | me? | [03:17] |
c1b3rshad3 | i know i have no rating | [03:17] |
Azelphur | no me, I just tried to register | [03:17] |
c1b3rshad3 | i'm eager to get one. i registered with the gibble bot yesterday | [03:17] |
c1b3rshad3 | am i on wob or not? my name isn't on the list but i thought that was cuz i haven't done any deals yet | [03:18] |
GlooBoy | http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=c1b3rshad3 | [03:18] |
GlooBoy | eauth | [03:18] |
smickles | c1b3rshad3: yes, you need to 'sign in' | [03:18] |
c1b3rshad3 | sign in here? | [03:18] |
smickles | yes | [03:18] |
vragnaroda | ;;eauth vragnaroda | [03:18] |
c1b3rshad3 | how? | [03:18] |
gribble | Request successful for user vragnaroda, hostmask vragnaroda!~vragnarod@unaffiliated/vragnaroda. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/B594FD658613B519 | [03:18] |
smickles | via ;;eauth | [03:18] |
c1b3rshad3 | k hold on | [03:18] |
vragnaroda | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ffaab8b870320f8bc7e6855fc5dce757c272bceace8997919b5ac7c0 | [03:19] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user vragnaroda with key B594FD658613B519 | [03:19] |
c1b3rshad3 | ;;eauth c1b3rshad3 | [03:19] |
vragnaroda | Like that. ;) | [03:19] |
c1b3rshad3 | i did it | [03:19] |
c1b3rshad3 | i think | [03:19] |
rg | ;;ident c1b3rshad3 | [03:19] |
gribble | Nick 'c1b3rshad3', with hostmask 'c1b3rshad3!~c1b3rshad@30.sub-75-216-76.myvzw.com', is not identified. | [03:19] |
smickles | nope | [03:19] |
vragnaroda | c1b3rshad3: You've got to ;;everify, too. | [03:19] |
c1b3rshad3 | what's the syntax of the everify command? | [03:19] |
c1b3rshad3 | ;;everify c1b3rshad3 | [03:19] |
c1b3rshad3 | ? | [03:20] |
smickles | c1b3rshad3: vrag demo'd it for you | [03:20] |
c1b3rshad3 | oh shit i need that freenode:#bitcoin code again? | [03:20] |
rg | thats yourpassword man | [03:20] |
vragnaroda | Yes. :) | [03:20] |
c1b3rshad3 | do i have to type these commands in pm to gribble? | [03:20] |
smickles | that's the idea | [03:20] |
Azelphur | ;;gpg eregister Azelphur CA9D586CF91B91FF | [03:21] |
smickles | that's one way to do it c1b3rshad3 | [03:21] |
vragnaroda | You should generally but if you need to be talked through it, you should go to #bitcoin-otc-foyer and people can help you. | [03:21] |
vragnaroda | (I'm about to leave, though.) | [03:21] |
c1b3rshad3 | but i already eregister'ed last night. do i have to do it again? i know where the wiki is that walk's me through it | [03:21] |
vragnaroda | You do not have to register again. | [03:22] |
vragnaroda | You do have to verify again. | [03:22] |
c1b3rshad3 | maybe i saved my pword. can i get my command/terminal to repeat it to me> | [03:22] |
c1b3rshad3 | >? | [03:22] |
vragnaroda | No. | [03:22] |
rg | no | [03:22] |
rg | thats not how it works | [03:22] |
vragnaroda | The point of it is that passwords are one-time use only. | [03:22] |
rg | its a one time password | [03:22] |
c1b3rshad3 | so i have to do all that sh*t again everytime i get on? | [03:22] |
rg | you have to decrypt the contents of the file gribble gives you | [03:23] |
vragnaroda | (Otherwise, it wouldn't be a very good password.) | [03:23] |
Azelphur | yay, I'm authenticated o/ | [03:23] |
rg | and then do everify | [03:23] |
vragnaroda | c1b3rshad3: You can automate it. ;-) | [03:23] |
smickles | Azelphur: use ;;voiceme | [03:23] |
Azelphur | ;;voiceme | [03:23] |
vragnaroda | ;;ident Azelphur | [03:23] |
gribble | Nick 'Azelphur', with hostmask 'Azelphur!~Azelphur@azelphur.com', is identified as user Azelphur, with GPG key id CA9D586CF91B91FF, and key fingerprint AF97CD440E9F6124753BADFF61AFBDB270AC7F3E. | [03:23] |
Azelphur | Error: Insufficient account age or rating. Required minimum account age is 1 days, and required minimum trust is 0. Yours are 0.000319226908463 days and 0, respectively. | [03:23] |
c1b3rshad3 | so the "begin pgp blah blah end pgp" code from last night won't work again? | [03:23] |
amiller | can you spend a 1 satoshi (0.00000001 btc) transaction output | [03:23] |
smickles | oh yeah | [03:23] |
Azelphur | hehe | [03:23] |
smickles | you have to wait a day to get foice | [03:23] |
smickles | *voice | [03:23] |
Azelphur | fun | [03:24] |
vragnaroda | smickles: Haha, you're punny! | [03:24] |
vragnaroda | You probably don't even get it, though. :( | [03:24] |
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smickles | amiller: i've sent 1 satoshi b/f | [03:24] |
gmaxwell | amiller: yes. Though if your sending txn has outputs smaller than 0.01 btc you'll need to provide a fee of at least 0.0005 btc | [03:24] |
vragnaroda | smickles: That was funny because /v/ is the voiced version of /f/!!! | [03:24] |
* | seco puts another vote on ecdsa for -otc | [03:24] |
amiller | hm, i need to read up on the bitcoin fees schedule | [03:25] |
smickles | vragnaroda: well, I was lost until you explained it | [03:25] |
smickles | thx | [03:25] |
smickles | :D | [03:25] |
joejohn101 | anyone want to buy a money pak? | [03:25] |
vragnaroda | smickles: A voiced sound is one said with vibrating the vocal cords. A voiceless sound is one said without vibrating the vocal cords. | [03:26] |
bigrhino | hey guys, anyone take moneypak anymore? kind of regret buying a card now since I have been trying to trade for btc for last 2 days and no go :( | [03:26] |
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c1b3rshad3 | hey i'm getting there.. | [03:26] |
c1b3rshad3 | just a min | [03:26] |
gmaxwell | Any outputs less than 0.01 = minimum fee of 0.0005, otherwise free unless sum(confirms*value)/data_size > 1e8*144*250 then minimum fee of 0.0005*1000_bytes_of_data | [03:26] |
gmaxwell | amiller: see also https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees | [03:26] |
smickles | oh, vragnaroda, I understand that. I just use that understanding so little that I did not make the connection when you called my other statement out as a pun. | [03:27] |
c1b3rshad3 | can someone give me the gpg command line version command syntax to export the answer of the --decrypt option to a file? please? | [03:27] |
vragnaroda | smickles: ogay | [03:27] |
gmaxwell | amiller: the outputs under 0.01 rule is enforced by ~every node. The rest can actually get mined if you violate them.. sometimes ... slowly. . (or at least confirms will increase and eventually it'll go through free) | [03:27] |
smickles | ;) | [03:27] |
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Azelphur | can trading on GLBSE get you otc rep? | [03:28] |
c1b3rshad3 | brb | [03:28] |
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seco | c1b3rshad3: gpg --decrypt my-file.gpg ? | [03:28] |
rg | why .gpg ? | [03:28] |
rg | file extensions are so lame | [03:29] |
c1b3rshad3 | that's it? are you sure? | [03:29] |
c1b3rshad3 | i'm going to try | [03:29] |
rg | c1ber: are you in linux | [03:29] |
rg | its simple | [03:29] |
rg | download teh file gribble gave you | [03:29] |
rg | open up a cmd | [03:29] |
rg | switch to the directory where it is | [03:29] |
c1b3rshad3 | i'm in windows | [03:29] |
rg | and do gpg --decrypt file | [03:29] |
c1b3rshad3 | windows xtra poopy | [03:29] |
seco | rg file extension is not important; just most guis give you "decrypt" button if you rightclick on .gpg file | [03:30] |
amiller | so the only 'fees' rule at which miners will consistently reject blocks with transactions in violation is you need .0005 fee for each instance of an output valued < 0.01 | [03:30] |
rg | take the contents and do /msg gribble everify contents | [03:30] |
rg | thats it | [03:30] |
rg | its two commands | [03:30] |
amiller | that's still not a totally clear phrasing, but i understand it if that's the case | [03:30] |
rg | it shouldnt take more than 10 seconds | [03:30] |
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c1b3rshad3 | well its decrypting.. it didn't take this long last night. thanks for the help ya'll. | [03:32] |
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c1b3rshad3 | oh i got it i got it one step closer to food rg | [03:32] |
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rg | i still dont know what to get | [03:33] |
rg | i have it down to 6 choices | [03:33] |
seco | 0_x | [03:33] |
rg | buffalo chicken calzone, chicken parm calzone, chicken finger dinner, broccoli & alfredo dinner, cheeseburger club | [03:33] |
rg | or a chicken salad sub w/ french fries | [03:33] |
smickles | rg: ,,(dice 1d6) | [03:33] |
gribble | 2 | [03:33] |
amiller | gmaxwell, o | [03:33] |
rg | ,,(dice 1d6) | [03:33] |
gribble | 5 | [03:33] |
rg | ,,(dice 1d6) | [03:33] |
gribble | 4 | [03:33] |
rg | ,,(dice 1d6) | [03:33] |
gribble | 6 | [03:33] |
amiller | er, i'm surprised there isn't an article on just the rules that miners use for rejecting other miner's blocks | [03:34] |
rawrmage | write it! | [03:34] |
amiller | i've tried to figure this out before and gotten lost as to which side rules go on | [03:34] |
amiller | yeah | [03:34] |
gmaxwell | amiller: none of the fee rules cause block rejection. | [03:34] |
rg | everyone just set your fee to 0.01 btc | [03:34] |
gmaxwell | rg: why? | [03:34] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultatele-subscriptiei-publice-aprilie/ and here are the results for the April IPO | [03:35] |
mircea_popescu | ding smickles. | [03:35] |
rg | ;;ident c1b3rshad3 | [03:35] |
gribble | Nick 'c1b3rshad3', with hostmask 'c1b3rshad3!~c1b3rshad@30.sub-75-216-76.myvzw.com', is identified as user c1b3rshad3, with GPG key id D9572775EBBC9C91, and key fingerprint 4BE018A31079152FC9FB5740D9572775EBBC9C91. | [03:35] |
rg | finally | [03:35] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: i'm already there :D | [03:35] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [03:35] |
c1b3rshad3 | so what do i do now? | [03:36] |
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smickles | how about that, over 2 million | [03:37] |
Coolio- | anyone want to buy btc using western union | [03:37] |
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Coolio- | sellin 80btc | [03:37] |
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mircea_popescu | yeee wd! | [03:38] |
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smickles | mircea_popescu: so MPOE is valued at about 24kbtc? | [03:39] |
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mircea_popescu | atm, yes | [03:40] |
mircea_popescu | course last month it was valued at 90k | [03:40] |
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rawrmage | lol | [03:40] |
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mircea_popescu | but prolly this later value much closer to true mkt sentiment | [03:41] |
joejohn101 | hey if there's a name in the colulmn to the right, does that mean that person is signed on? | [03:42] |
joejohn101 | or just that they were on before or something | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | yes joejohn101, they're connected. | [03:42] |
* | smickles does calculations to figure if MPOE.ETF is tracking the current value of MPOE | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | what is your current close ? | [03:42] |
prime | What kind of returns does MPOE.ETF get? | [03:42] |
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rawrmage | What type of pony are you, prime? | [03:43] |
rg | this is becoming a hassle | [03:43] |
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JWU42 | where is the best to sell NMC for BTC | [03:43] |
joejohn101 | hey how do you check a rating | [03:43] |
rawrmage | ;;getrating joejohn101 | [03:43] |
gribble | User joejohn101, created on Tue Apr 3 13:41:49 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=joejohn101 Currently authenticated from hostmask joejohn101!b8586dba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.88.109.186 | [03:43] |
JWU42 | most pools do it for you - not this one... | [03:43] |
GlooBoy | getrating glooboy | [03:44] |
JWU42 | ;; | [03:44] |
GlooBoy | that too | [03:44] |
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mircea_popescu | prime : the dividends that MPOE pays on the held shares | [03:53] |
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rg | ;;ticker | [03:55] |
gribble | Best bid: 4.9353, Best ask: 4.95002, Bid-ask spread: 0.01472, Last trade: 4.95002, 24 hour volume: 56936, 24 hour low: 4.8811, 24 hour high: 4.98 | [03:55] |
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rg | ;;calc 14.13 / 4.93 | [04:00] |
gribble | 2.86612576065 | [04:00] |
rg | ;;ticker | [04:00] |
gribble | Best bid: 4.9353, Best ask: 4.95002, Bid-ask spread: 0.01472, Last trade: 4.9353, 24 hour volume: 56943, 24 hour low: 4.8811, 24 hour high: 4.98 | [04:00] |
mircea_popescu | lol impatient rg ? | [04:02] |
rg | considering it just took like 35 minutes to order a calzone | [04:02] |
rg | yes | [04:02] |
rg | bbl | [04:02] |
bougyman | yumm | [04:02] |
BohemianHacks | fuuuuu... now I am hungry | [04:02] |
bougyman | i love calzones | [04:02] |
bougyman | well, a good calzone is heaven. | [04:02] |
rg | i got a chicken parm zalone | [04:03] |
rg | calzone | [04:03] |
c1b3rshad3 | when will i get btc and rating? | [04:03] |
rg | i already sent the btc | [04:04] |
rg | youll get a rating when i get the food | [04:04] |
c1b3rshad3 | thanks | [04:04] |
c1b3rshad3 | how long does it take for btc to show up at mt.gox folks? | [04:05] |
BohemianHacks | 2 days | [04:05] |
c1b3rshad3 | bs | [04:05] |
BTC_Bear | 1 hour give or take | [04:05] |
BohemianHacks | :P | [04:05] |
c1b3rshad3 | thanks | [04:05] |
rg | its already got 1 confim | [04:05] |
rg | i paid the fee | [04:05] |
prime | Dang, 2838 asks for tygrr-bank @ 0.1025 | [04:05] |
mircea_popescu | isthat good ? | [04:06] |
rg | is that good or bad | [04:06] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [04:06] |
mircea_popescu | rg : did you ever register your key with mpex ? | [04:06] |
smickles | tygrr-bank's terms are "test" | [04:07] |
smickles | that means it should be worthless | [04:07] |
smickles | people are seriously buying and selling copies of the word test | [04:07] |
BTC_Bear | smickles: You ever play poker with a rich drunk gambler? | [04:08] |
prime | lol | [04:08] |
smickles | lol, that is a good way to put it BTC_Bear | [04:08] |
pigeons | is there a supposed purpose other than "test" for tygrr-bank? | [04:09] |
prime | Nobody knows | [04:09] |
smickles | pigeons: that's how the asset contract is written | [04:09] |
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smickles | nothing obligates the issuer to pay a dividend | [04:09] |
smickles | or not run away with the btc | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | ugh. | [04:10] |
smickles | or anything | [04:10] |
pigeons | ooo, i want some! | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | glbse might be the weirdest thing in all of bitcoinland. | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | so smickles, does it track ? | [04:10] |
pigeons | it tracks "test" exactly | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | MPOE.ETF 3@0.2 0.1048 0.15 | [04:11] |
mircea_popescu | whoa nelly, going for 0.2 ? jesus F christ wtf. | [04:11] |
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smickles | mircea_popescu: MPOE.ETF is trading at a premium over NAV right now | [04:11] |
rg | no mircea | [04:11] |
rg | you never told me | [04:11] |
rg | to | [04:11] |
mircea_popescu | rg you srsly should man. | [04:11] |
prime | NAV? | [04:11] |
BTC_Bear | Net Asset Value | [04:11] |
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mircea_popescu | smickles what's the float again ? 600 something ? | [04:12] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: yea, 610 issued and outstanding | [04:12] |
rg | imm | [04:12] |
rg | where do i do it | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | rg http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php << it says thar. | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | actually smickles, at last valuation you're worth 2253340 * 0.00009085 / 610 = 0.335599900 BTC / share. | [04:13] |
mircea_popescu | i'd guess that's prolly the max it can go atm. | [04:13] |
smickles | 0.00009085? | [04:14] |
mircea_popescu | that was march ipo. | [04:14] |
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smickles | I used the April numbers for the valuation | [04:16] |
rg | done | [04:16] |
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smickles | using the march numbers MPOE.ETF is worth 0.344590354114754 btc per share | [04:17] |
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smickles | (whe have some cash held | [04:17] |
smickles | ) | [04:17] |
smickles | *we | [04:17] |
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mircea_popescu | a cause you had some cash yes. | [04:18] |
mircea_popescu | well im curious if you hit that 0.34 before next month lolz | [04:18] |
rg | did i do it right mary poppins | [04:18] |
rg | i sent it to office@poli | [04:18] |
rg | also | [04:19] |
rg | you need someone to sign your key | [04:19] |
rg | It is NOT certain that the key belongs to the person named | [04:19] |
rg | in the user ID. If you *really* know what you are doing, | [04:19] |
rg | you may answer the next question with yes. | [04:19] |
mircea_popescu | rg : ascii armored dawg. | [04:19] |
rg | i did. | [04:19] |
mircea_popescu | ugh | [04:19] |
rg | It is NOT certain that the key belongs to the person named | [04:19] |
rg | in the user ID. If you *really* know what you are doing, | [04:19] |
rg | you may answer the next question with yes. | [04:19] |
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rg | er | [04:20] |
rg | gpg --armor --output pubkey.txt --export 'James' | [04:20] |
rg | gpg --encrypt --recipient 'office@polimedia.us' pubkey.txt | [04:20] |
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mircea_popescu | gpg --encrypt -a --recipient 'office@polimedia.us' pubkey.txt | [04:21] |
mircea_popescu | and my key is signed by various ppl, including nano. so... weird ? | [04:21] |
MindChild | encryption is a myth | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [04:22] |
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smickles | mircea_popescu: using a volume weighted price for MPOE shares, MPOE.ETF has a NAV per share of 0.148034373534237 | [04:24] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [04:24] |
mircea_popescu | hey, that's pretty cool actually, seeing how ppl went in at .1 | [04:24] |
smickles | yup | [04:24] |
mircea_popescu | a theoretical gain of almost 50% right off. | [04:24] |
smickles | and NAV doesn't include expectation of dividends either | [04:25] |
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Azelphur | I'm waiting for something new to spring up so I can get in early :P | [04:25] |
mircea_popescu | Azelphur lolz why didn't you get in early on this one hehe | [04:25] |
MindChild | You neighbors daughter | [04:25] |
Azelphur | didn't know of it | [04:25] |
mircea_popescu | aww. | [04:26] |
mircea_popescu | im curious what ppl say when they find out lolz. | [04:28] |
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smickles | find out that you are a Wooly Willy? | [04:29] |
MindChild | I love wooly willy | [04:30] |
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smickles | I'd actually value MPOE.ETF shares at 0.557291322. That number accounts for 1 projected dividend | [04:36] |
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smickles | er sorry | [04:36] |
smickles | hit the wron key | [04:37] |
smickles | s/1/2/ | [04:37] |
smickles | sorta... so it accounts for 2 projected dividends | [04:37] |
smickles | *based on historical data ;) | [04:37] |
mircea_popescu | umm | [04:38] |
mircea_popescu | how you figure ? | [04:38] |
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mircea_popescu | you own ~ 0.22% of what last month was 110 btc profit, so prolly could get 0.25 btc or so next month. | [04:38] |
smickles | I used the dividend which you paid per share, maybe I did it wrong :/ | [04:39] |
mircea_popescu | per bloc de 1 milion actiuni : 0.11078964 BTC << per 1mn share block, 0.11 | [04:40] |
smickles | ok, looking over my calculation, I had a serious decimal error | [04:43] |
smickles | 0.148744807 | [04:43] |
rg | mircea | [04:43] |
smickles | that's the right calc | [04:43] |
rg | did i do it properly | [04:43] |
rg | ;;rate c1b3rshad3 1 official bitcoin-otc member, fed rg | [04:44] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user c1b3rshad3 has been recorded. | [04:44] |
smickles | so basically .15 if you plan to hold it for a year | [04:45] |
mircea_popescu | ah ok smiockles. looking rg. | [04:45] |
mircea_popescu | rg, got no new mail ? | [04:46] |
mircea_popescu | but the ideea is, armor your encrypted msg too, not just the key extract. | [04:46] |
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mircea_popescu | i'd say if i were to guess something between 0.15 and .2 is about right smickles, but this just out of my guesser. | [04:47] |
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c1b3rshad3 | thanks rg you're the man. i checked mtgox and it said from wallet to account could take over 24 hours but i'm ready to give your rating now. | [04:48] |
c1b3rshad3 | can i rate more than "1"? would "2" be appropriate? | [04:49] |
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mircea_popescu | you can but prolly 1 is proper. | [04:50] |
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c1b3rshad3 | do i type in the rate command with nick rg or nick +rg? | [04:54] |
danieldaniel | c1b3rshad3: only rg | [04:54] |
c1b3rshad3 | thanks | [04:54] |
danieldaniel | + means he has voice | [04:54] |
danieldaniel | also | [04:54] |
c1b3rshad3 | oh.. i don't have sound on this netbook and i'm new to irc so i wouldn't know | [04:54] |
danieldaniel | nvm | [04:54] |
danieldaniel | :) | [04:54] |
c1b3rshad3 | rate rg 1 official bitcoin-otc member, fed c1bershad3 | [04:55] |
c1b3rshad3 | with the ;; in front correct? | [04:55] |
danieldaniel | yes | [04:55] |
c1b3rshad3 | ;;rate rg 1 official bitcoin-otc member, fed c1b3rshad3 | [04:56] |
draco49 | wassup peeps | [04:56] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user rg has been recorded. | [04:56] |
c1b3rshad3 | how do i add the comments in that i see others posting on his wob webpage? | [04:56] |
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smickles | peep peeps | [04:57] |
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c1b3rshad3 | smickles how do i add a comment to my rating for rg? | [04:59] |
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mircea_popescu | official bitcoin-otc member, fed c1b3rshad3 << this was your comment. | [05:00] |
mircea_popescu | go ;;rated rg and see. | [05:00] |
c1b3rshad3 | ;;rated rg | [05:01] |
gribble | You rated user rg on Fri Apr 6 18:56:11 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: official bitcoin-otc member, fed c1b3rshad3. | [05:01] |
c1b3rshad3 | ohhh oops | [05:01] |
c1b3rshad3 | well at least i know the syntax now | [05:01] |
c1b3rshad3 | sorry rg. i was going to say you're awesome | [05:01] |
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c1b3rshad3 | but instead i said what you're an official bitcoin-otc member.. as if i'm qualified to hand that out lol | [05:04] |
c1b3rshad3 | that* | [05:04] |
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smickles | c1b3rshad3: you can add a comment to your rating of rg by rerating him | [05:07] |
c1b3rshad3 | same command? | [05:07] |
smickles | yes | [05:07] |
smickles | so ;;rate rg x bla bla | [05:07] |
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c1b3rshad3 | rate rg 1 rg is awesome! | [05:07] |
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c1b3rshad3 | correct? | [05:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | won't that just issue a new rating? | [05:08] |
smickles | yup, just add the ;; at the beginning | [05:08] |
smickles | yes | [05:08] |
smickles | but that's what you want | [05:08] |
smickles | it overwrites the old one | [05:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | well i already gave him one | [05:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | ohh | [05:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | i meant new as in no rewrite but got ya | [05:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | ;;rate rg 1 rg is awesome! | [05:09] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from 1 to 1. | [05:09] |
smickles | you only get 1 rating per person ;) | [05:09] |
c1b3rshad3 | what if we do another deal? | [05:09] |
c1b3rshad3 | where's he at does he want some dessert? | [05:09] |
smickles | then you change your trust level if you feel like you trust him more or less | [05:09] |
c1b3rshad3 | oh change the 1 to a 2? | [05:09] |
BTC_Bear | ;;rated rg | [05:10] |
gribble | You rated user rg on Mon Jan 9 22:00:23 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: He sent coins.. | [05:10] |
smickles | only if you trust him 2 out of 10 | [05:10] |
BTC_Bear | ;;rate rg 2 The Bum took my food | [05:10] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from 1 to 2. | [05:10] |
BTC_Bear | ^^ | [05:10] |
smickles | c1b3rshad3: I'd give him a 2 if I trusted him with 4 to 8 thousand usd | [05:10] |
smickles | but that's just me | [05:11] |
c1b3rshad3 | i should've had him send the btc to my wallet instead of mtgox cuz the btc would probably be showing up now instead of within 24 hours | [05:11] |
c1b3rshad3 | ? | [05:11] |
c1b3rshad3 | why so much? | [05:11] |
smickles | i take the trust ratings seriously | [05:11] |
BTC_Bear | 24 hrs | [05:11] |
BTC_Bear | why? | [05:12] |
smickles | c1b3rshad3: it should on.y be 6 confirms | [05:12] |
smickles | and you should be able to see it in the public record already | [05:12] |
c1b3rshad3 | idk.. probably won't take that long i'd guess but that's what the faq said | [05:12] |
c1b3rshad3 | how do i see on public record? | [05:13] |
BTC_Bear | address sent to? | [05:13] |
c1b3rshad3 | 6 confirms? | [05:13] |
c1b3rshad3 | hold on | [05:13] |
BTC_Bear | blockchain.info | [05:13] |
smickles | blockchain.info/address/ |
[05:13] |
phantomcircuit | https://intersango.com/orderbook.php?currency_pair_id=3 | [05:13] |
phantomcircuit | ha | [05:13] |
smickles | there are others, but blockchain gave it's soul to the devil to look pretty | [05:13] |
phantomcircuit | it's pretty | [05:13] |
BTC_Bear | although, if it was internal mtgox to mtgox it might not | [05:13] |
c1b3rshad3 | 1M3ZUe7xtNS24eEqNmMbw6VCcHH3AJHDnh | [05:14] |
c1b3rshad3 | he said he didn't use mtgox | [05:14] |
Joric | i personally hate blockchain's logo | [05:14] |
c1b3rshad3 | or doesn't use mtgox | [05:14] |
c1b3rshad3 | blockchain.info/address/1M3ZUe7xtNS24eEqNmMbw6VCcHH3AJHDnh | [05:14] |
c1b3rshad3 | ? | [05:14] |
smickles | looks good to me | [05:15] |
smickles | eta < 10 min | [05:15] |
c1b3rshad3 | how did you find out? | [05:15] |
smickles | actually, eat anysecondnow | [05:16] |
smickles | 10 min average per block | [05:16] |
c1b3rshad3 | and why didn't the blockchain command work for me? | [05:16] |
mircea_popescu | i kinda like blockchain too, cause of pretty. | [05:16] |
smickles | command? | [05:16] |
smickles | it's a website | [05:16] |
smickles | http://blockchain.info/address/1M3ZUe7xtNS24eEqNmMbw6VCcHH3AJHDnh | [05:16] |
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c1b3rshad3 | that makes me feel smart | [05:16] |
c1b3rshad3 | not | [05:16] |
smickles | damn, my baby does *not* like pooping | [05:17] |
mircea_popescu | bad diet. | [05:18] |
smickles | my wife does like to eat spicy foods | [05:18] |
TuxBlackEdo | heh | [05:19] |
c1b3rshad3 | wow this shit is awesome | [05:19] |
smickles | but it is a healthy diet | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | haha welcome c1b3rshad3 | [05:19] |
c1b3rshad3 | fuck pp and usd's | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | well smickles if she breastfeeds she should take it easy on the peppers. | [05:19] |
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smickles | *chants | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | i remember in mexico nursing off this chica who had HOT milk omg srsly. | [05:20] |
smickles | lol | [05:20] |
c1b3rshad3 | lol | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu | im not too hot-tolerant | [05:20] |
JWU42 | [05:20] | |
JWU42 | that is large | [05:20] |
JWU42 | ;) | [05:20] |
Joric | when i switch blockchain.info to USD it looks kindof more solid | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu | 4k not so huge huh | [05:20] |
JWU42 | large, not huge =) | [05:20] |
smickles | especially not for 38 transactions | [05:21] |
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mircea_popescu | 6k already went | [05:22] |
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smickles | we should make one of thos quickmemes about c1b3rshad3. 'figures out bitcoin … "fuck pp"' | [05:22] |
c1b3rshad3 | yes | [05:22] |
smickles | maybe the 'success kid' | [05:22] |
mircea_popescu | lol ya | [05:22] |
c1b3rshad3 | unfortunately i'm somewhat dependent on pp cuz i sell on ebay | [05:23] |
JWU42 | hadn't seen anything else today that large - just sayin' | [05:23] |
Azelphur | haha | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | he's kinda the cutest noob so far. | [05:23] |
Azelphur | c1b3rshad3: just stick a "Bitcoin accepted" logo on your auctions | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | ya that's a good ideea, might boost sales some. | [05:23] |
Azelphur | indeed | [05:23] |
c1b3rshad3 | i certainly will but i hope to get away from it. anyone here used bitmit? or recommend an "ebay of bitcoin" site? | [05:24] |
Azelphur | I hear biddingpond is popular | [05:24] |
Azelphur | what do you sell on ebay? | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | so quick point of curiosity : if you had the choice you'd prefer a woman that gets monthly periods or one that needs nightly recharging, like the laptop ? | [05:24] |
c1b3rshad3 | lol huh? | [05:24] |
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LordCanti | ;;gpg eauth lordcanti | [05:25] |
smickles | http://www.mememaker.net/meme/figures-out-bitcoin-fuck-paypal | [05:25] |
c1b3rshad3 | the laptop is cheaper in the long run! | [05:25] |
smickles | there we go | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | haha smickles | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate c1b3rshad3 1 http://www.mememaker.net/meme/figures-out-bitcoin-fuck-paypal | [05:26] |
smickles | heh, c1b3rshad3: you've been tagged | [05:26] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;rate c1b3rshad3 1 http://www.mememaker.net/meme/figures-out-bitcoin-fuck-paypal | [05:27] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user c1b3rshad3 has been recorded. | [05:27] |
Azelphur | haha | [05:27] |
smickles | you are now our posterboy | [05:27] |
smickles | "the face of -otc" | [05:27] |
Azelphur | c1b3rshad3: what stuff do you sell on ebay? | [05:27] |
smickles | well, mememaker is awesome, that's on the front page now | [05:28] |
c1b3rshad3 | right now i have covergirl mascara, lipstick. loreal mascara, some foundation. batteries | [05:28] |
Azelphur | ah, nothing useful for me then | [05:29] |
Azelphur | although smickles may be interested | [05:29] |
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c1b3rshad3 | i'm getting low.. i just got outta jail | [05:29] |
rawrmage | you did? | [05:29] |
c1b3rshad3 | yea | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | girl shit doesn't sell so good for btc due to the fact that its a massive sausage fest. | [05:29] |
joejohn101 | who wants to sell me coins for moneypack | [05:29] |
c1b3rshad3 | but not for fraud or anything related thank you | [05:29] |
c1b3rshad3 | good old fashioned dope dealer | [05:29] |
Azelphur | rofl | [05:29] |
Azelphur | quick, get a job at silkroad | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | i hear you guys do better in prison than outside. | [05:30] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: of all people here, I would have pegged you as the 'girl shit' kind, but maybe i've been nsfw for too long | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | lmao i buy mascara ?! | [05:30] |
c1b3rshad3 | silk road i heard about in my dopehouse and then in jail when they raided me. so when i got out i looked it up. the ppl telling me about didn't know what tor was but they knew they needed it | [05:31] |
smickles | no, you buy girl shit | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | i sell girl shit | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | to the japanese | [05:31] |
c1b3rshad3 | via ebay? | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | via the spanish galleons | [05:31] |
smickles | i don't think ebay allows the sale of human fecal matter | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | girls are human nao ?! | [05:31] |
c1b3rshad3 | and i hate prison ( for anything more than a month or two that is) | [05:32] |
smickles | lolwut ¯(°_o)/¯ | [05:32] |
joejohn101 | anyone want to sell me bitcoins? | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | bad food c1b3rshad3 ? | [05:32] |
c1b3rshad3 | lol.. oh i misunderstood the meaning of "shit" | [05:32] |
c1b3rshad3 | not as bad as you would think | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, here's what tpr is : https://www.torproject.org/ | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | basically an anonimoty package. | [05:32] |
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c1b3rshad3 | relative to what most people who are repeat offenders eat on the norm.. considering they're mostly hardcore drug addicts.. if you follow me | [05:33] |
mircea_popescu | they eat teh cock ? | [05:33] |
Joric | http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3359/what-happens-to-my-bitcoins-when-i-die :~-( | [05:33] |
c1b3rshad3 | i should've seen that coming | [05:33] |
c1b3rshad3 | yes some of them do | [05:33] |
c1b3rshad3 | for honey buns | [05:33] |
mircea_popescu | don't die now joric, we need you | [05:34] |
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phantomcircuit | Joric, same thing that happens to the gold you buried in the backyard | [05:34] |
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mircea_popescu | no phantomcircuit . bad analogy | [05:34] |
da2ce7 | good'day all | [05:34] |
mircea_popescu | that gold will be found eventually | [05:34] |
mircea_popescu | hi da2ce7 ! go trade mpex stuff! :D | [05:35] |
phantomcircuit | mircea_popescu, depends | [05:35] |
BohemianHacks | smickles: did I tell you I got my mining going? | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | phantomcircuit on ? | [05:35] |
phantomcircuit | whether anybody is looking for it | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | not rly. 85 years later someone develops the land. | [05:35] |
Joric | as quantum computers develop every single address will be bruteforced | [05:36] |
c1b3rshad3 | i tried to get a mining app going without success.. i pointed (or attempted to) it at deepbit as per instructed (to the best of my ability) but alas no success | [05:36] |
mircea_popescu | they recently found ~8kgs of gold in buried treasure > 2000 years old here for instance. | [05:36] |
Joric | only 2^160 for ripemd | [05:36] |
c1b3rshad3 | who wants to buy some makeup!? | [05:36] |
c1b3rshad3 | covergirl lashblast fusion or length or volume. | [05:37] |
mircea_popescu | you'd have more takers with war paint. | [05:37] |
c1b3rshad3 | mascara taht is | [05:37] |
c1b3rshad3 | i sell it for less than retail | [05:37] |
mircea_popescu | well ya but... | [05:38] |
mircea_popescu | NOBODY HERE HAS ANY GFS | [05:38] |
mircea_popescu | there, you made me say it ;/ | [05:38] |
BohemianHacks | I do | [05:38] |
mircea_popescu | now they'll kline me | [05:38] |
c1b3rshad3 | i have a gf | [05:38] |
BohemianHacks | lol | [05:38] |
mircea_popescu | lies. | [05:38] |
Joric | nobody here is a girl even | [05:39] |
c1b3rshad3 | she's bout to get on with my friends ipad. we gonna school her too. where the hell is rg? | [05:39] |
mircea_popescu | rg is the gf schoolmaster ? | [05:40] |
smickles | < BohemianHacks> smickles: did I tell you I got my mining going? << I had no idea | [05:40] |
c1b3rshad3 | she wears my make up | [05:40] |
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c1b3rshad3 | anyone familiar with irc apps for the ipad? recommend one? | [05:41] |
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BTC_Bear | colloquay? has one | [05:41] |
BTC_Bear | spelled correctly of course | [05:41] |
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c1b3rshad3 | school - to teach | [05:41] |
c1b3rshad3 | so yes maybe he is the schoolmaster | [05:41] |
smickles | BohemianHacks: did you see this: http://www.mememaker.net/meme/figures-out-bitcoin-fuck-paypal | [05:42] |
c1b3rshad3 | yes i saved the link and commented | [05:42] |
BohemianHacks | smickles :D | [05:42] |
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c1b3rshad3 | made me feel like i made my mark in the internets! | [05:42] |
mircea_popescu | "she wears my make-up" sounds distinctly... yeah. | [05:42] |
c1b3rshad3 | on* | [05:42] |
BohemianHacks | mircea_popescu: http://i42.tinypic.com/2qxrtl4.png | [05:42] |
BohemianHacks | I have now proven you wrong, 1BTC please | [05:42] |
mircea_popescu | every time i see BohemianHacks name i read romanianblabla and do a dbl take | [05:42] |
BTC_Bear | I think of Queen with an Axe | [05:43] |
BohemianHacks | hey... fuck you buddy | [05:43] |
danieldaniel | Anyone know where the megamillions drawing is shown on TV? | [05:43] |
danieldaniel | like, what channel? | [05:43] |
c1b3rshad3 | makes me think of hairy naked women working on computers | [05:43] |
mircea_popescu | lol fuck me ? why fuck me! Everyone wants to fuck me wtf is this | [05:43] |
c1b3rshad3 | what ya look like mircea? | [05:44] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/ | [05:44] |
BohemianHacks | BTC_Bear was the fuck you buddy | [05:44] |
BTC_Bear | momma mia, momma mia | [05:44] |
BohemianHacks | mircea_popescu: no one wants to fuck you :P | [05:44] |
BTC_Bear | OH>>>> | [05:44] |
BTC_Bear | Fiagaro | [05:44] |
c1b3rshad3 | what is the hostname adress of freenode? | [05:44] |
mircea_popescu | magnificooo o ooo | [05:44] |
BohemianHacks | Bohemia was the old name for the czech republic | [05:44] |
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mircea_popescu | back before it sucked :D | [05:45] |
c1b3rshad3 | i'm trying to get her on. i could of course google this shit if ya'll ain't feeling helpful tonight | [05:45] |
BohemianHacks | back when my people ran that shit... you know before we got kicked out and had to roam around with gypsies | [05:45] |
mircea_popescu | c1b3rshad3 : freenode.net ? | [05:45] |
c1b3rshad3 | who woulda thought | [05:45] |
mircea_popescu | http://webchat.freenode.net/ if you're looking for webchat | [05:46] |
c1b3rshad3 | no we're configuring an irc app for the ipad.. a free one | [05:46] |
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zveda | so what's the bohemian rhapsody all about? | [05:46] |
mircea_popescu | then it should just know freenode no ? | [05:46] |
BTC_Bear | lol | [05:46] |
BTC_Bear | see | [05:46] |
c1b3rshad3 | idk.. | [05:46] |
c1b3rshad3 | its a free one.. we clicked on "add server" | [05:47] |
BohemianHacks | zveda: after bohemian meant gypsy people used it as an artsy fartsy gypsy term | [05:47] |
BohemianHacks | so now bohemian is pretty much just remembered by that song | [05:47] |
zveda | ha ha damn | [05:47] |
zveda | is the movie | [05:47] |
zveda | into the wild | [05:47] |
zveda | about bohemians ? | [05:47] |
BohemianHacks | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemia | [05:47] |
mircea_popescu | c1b3rshad3 : * Looking up irc.freenode.net * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (213.92.8.4) port 8001... * Connected. Now logging in... if that helps you. | [05:47] |
BohemianHacks | vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemianism | [05:48] |
mircea_popescu | bohemia is how yurpeans say podunk | [05:48] |
BohemianHacks | "In 1845, Bohemian nationals began to immigrate to the United States, and from 1848 the wave included some of the radicals and ex-priests who had wanted a constitutional government. In New York City in 1857, a group of some 15–20 young, cultured journalists flourished as self-described "Bohemians" until the American Civil War began in 1860." | [05:48] |
Joric | there's an irc client for ipad... callagay or something | [05:48] |
mircea_popescu | call a gay ?! | [05:48] |
BohemianHacks | "cultured" | [05:48] |
Y0nderboy | Joric, Colliquy | [05:49] |
Y0nderboy | My gf uses it to contact me hwen she's out | [05:49] |
Y0nderboy | cus she knows i'm more likely to check IRC than answer the phone. | [05:49] |
Y0nderboy | :p | [05:49] |
mircea_popescu | ppl, stop pretending you have gfs. for srsly. | [05:49] |
Y0nderboy | colliquey | [05:49] |
Y0nderboy | or something like that. | [05:49] |
mircea_popescu | colic-y. | [05:49] |
BTC_Bear | I wish i had gf's | [05:49] |
Y0nderboy | Heh, why? | [05:49] |
BohemianHacks | mircea_popescu: i have already proven i have a GF, stfu | [05:50] |
BTC_Bear | But my wife won't let me. :( | [05:50] |
zveda | lool | [05:50] |
Joric | BTC_Bear, same | [05:50] |
Graet | BTC_Bear, me too, sux eh :P | [05:50] |
zveda | bohemia.. intewesting | [05:50] |
Y0nderboy | I have been in long term relationships for the last like 5 years. | [05:50] |
zveda | so do u want independence now from usa ? | [05:50] |
Y0nderboy | NOT GOOD | [05:50] |
mircea_popescu | my gf helps me get moar gfs. it's like... snowballing. | [05:50] |
c1b3rshad3 | it frozed | [05:50] |
luke-jr | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75761.0 | [05:50] |
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luke-jr | ^ please test 0.5.4rc3 | [05:50] |
BohemianHacks | zveda: I tried to buy rhode island once, they never returned my letters. | [05:50] |
zveda | gf's are only good for the first few weeks. then they stop being scared of u and it's not fun anymore | [05:51] |
BohemianHacks | Mine was trained properly, going strong on a year now | [05:52] |
luke-jr | zveda: you're doing it wrong. | [05:52] |
mircea_popescu | what luke-jr said. | [05:52] |
zveda | how so | [05:52] |
zveda | is it not true that the longer u have your gf, the more she will talk around u | [05:52] |
mircea_popescu | gf should be awed not scared. | [05:52] |
luke-jr | zveda: gotta marry her and convert to Catholicism together. ;) | [05:53] |
Y0nderboy | The worst thing about getting a new GF | [05:53] |
Y0nderboy | is when you meet there friends | [05:53] |
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mircea_popescu | or teach her to poledance | [05:53] |
Y0nderboy | and you find out what they are like with there friends. | [05:53] |
mircea_popescu | whichever. | [05:53] |
Y0nderboy | and it's OGODWHY | [05:53] |
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zveda | no girls here ? | [05:54] |
c1b3rshad3 | she's here! | [05:54] |
beka | I'm a girl | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | Y0nderboy's gf with her friends : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133376725343.jpg | [05:54] |
c1b3rshad3 | my beka bang wildthing | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | (198th on the 55th line on the left) | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | hello beka. how long have you been a girl ? | [05:54] |
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Y0nderboy | YEA MAN. | [05:55] |
beka | All my life | [05:55] |
Y0nderboy | CLEARLY | [05:55] |
luke-jr | zveda: no girls on IRC | [05:55] |
luke-jr | zveda: it's a general rule. | [05:55] |
Y0nderboy | Lol. | [05:55] |
Y0nderboy | Idk if it is a girl or not | [05:55] |
mircea_popescu | imagine if someone pukes in there. | [05:55] |
Y0nderboy | but i really hate the level of patriarchy in nerds. | [05:55] |
zveda | more girls on irc or in bitcoin? | [05:55] |
luke-jr | Y0nderboy: patriarchy is the right way | [05:55] |
Y0nderboy | it's pathetic and embarassing to be considered a geek. =/ | [05:55] |
rg | damn what a mess | [05:55] |
mircea_popescu | ugh... | [05:55] |
Y0nderboy | because of the fucking patriarchy. | [05:56] |
rg | i messed up with this customer | [05:56] |
BohemianHacks | only one way to prove femaledom | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | that's exactly wrong Y0nderboy. | [05:56] |
luke-jr | BohemianHacks: not even one | [05:56] |
BohemianHacks | timestamp + vagina + username | [05:56] |
rg | mircea | [05:56] |
c1b3rshad3 | rg! | [05:56] |
rg | did i do it right | [05:56] |
luke-jr | BohemianHacks: that proves nothing. | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | yes rg | [05:56] |
zveda | as someone from russia, I never understood geek culture | [05:56] |
rg | ok | [05:56] |
c1b3rshad3 | you want desert? | [05:56] |
rg | cool | [05:56] |
zveda | in soviet russia being smart was kool | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | rg : im not getting any mail from you | [05:56] |
rg | c1b3rshad3: no im full | [05:56] |
luke-jr | BohemianHacks: I suppose if you get her pregnant yourself, that might. but how do you know it was her on IRC? | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | so no, you've done nothing more since last time ? | [05:56] |
luke-jr | get her pregnant *while* she's IRCing? | [05:56] |
rg | mircea_popescu wtf | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno ? | [05:57] |
rg | you never got an email from em? | [05:57] |
rg | me? | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | one. | [05:57] |
rg | and i need to send more? | [05:57] |
BohemianHacks | luke-jr: timestamp + vagina + username is good enough proof | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | the one that didn't work. | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | yes, you need to send one WHERE YOU ARMORED the encrypted part, not just the key | [05:57] |
rg | oh ok | [05:57] |
rg | will do | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | ty! | [05:57] |
BohemianHacks | I mean its not like a guy would ruin his IRC handle by claiming to be a girl | [05:57] |
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luke-jr | in any case, anyone on IRC who claims to be a girl is really a FBI agent. | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | i don't get why a girl would want to "prove" she's a girl. | [05:58] |
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BohemianHacks | daddy issues mostly | [05:58] |
c1b3rshad3 | rg do you use batteries? | [05:58] |
LordCanti | I always assumed this place was crawling with girls | [05:59] |
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rg | done | [05:59] |
LordCanti | I mean, I got into bitcoin for the chicks | [05:59] |
rg | c1b3rshad | [05:59] |
rg | what kinda question is that | [05:59] |
rg | of course i use batteries at some point or another | [05:59] |
c1b3rshad3 | i sell batteries! who saw it coming? | [05:59] |
zveda | one day u can pay hookers with bitcoins | [05:59] |
luke-jr | did nanotube say when he gets back? | [05:59] |
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rg | you just admitted to being gay | [05:59] |
BohemianHacks | I bet I could find a hooker willing to accept bitcoins | [05:59] |
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rg | girls = dont use bitcoin | [06:00] |
rg | so if pay hooker = bitcoin | [06:00] |
rg | then hooker = male | [06:00] |
zveda | hookers will use bitpay | [06:00] |
rg | you = gay | [06:00] |
rg | im sorry you had to find out this way | [06:00] |
BohemianHacks | its hard to argue with mathematical proof | [06:00] |
zveda | maybe I can go to my local brothel and ask about the bitcoins | [06:00] |
BohemianHacks | I bet it would work | [06:01] |
BohemianHacks | money is money | [06:01] |
BohemianHacks | sometimes drugs are money | [06:01] |
BohemianHacks | for hoookers at least | [06:01] |
zveda | hmm | [06:01] |
zveda | high-class ones tho | [06:01] |
zveda | like the ones politicians get | [06:01] |
c1b3rshad3 | darn we tarded.. we can't figure out how to register her nick | [06:01] |
c1b3rshad3 | hookers accept crack and smack | [06:02] |
rg | [06:02] | |
c1b3rshad3 | and of cours cash | [06:02] |
rg | that is funny | [06:02] |
zveda | once hookers accept bitcoin it will be gg | [06:02] |
zveda | we got drugs | [06:02] |
zveda | gambling | [06:02] |
zveda | bitches | [06:02] |
c1b3rshad3 | acept for maybe gay geek hookers | [06:02] |
zveda | what else is there | [06:02] |
BohemianHacks | zveda is cooler than you though rg | [06:02] |
rg | legitimate business | [06:02] |
c1b3rshad3 | which i've never met | [06:02] |
BohemianHacks | he is a fan of my facebook page | [06:02] |
zveda | yeh I am the koolest | [06:03] |
zveda | without question | [06:03] |
BohemianHacks | only cool gets get in | [06:03] |
zveda | there is http://bitcoingunparts.com/ | [06:03] |
zveda | now we just need | [06:03] |
zveda | alcohol | [06:03] |
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zveda | and we got the alpacas too | [06:04] |
BohemianHacks | we already have cigarettes? | [06:04] |
mircea_popescu | mk rg, that still wasn't actuallty armored but w/e, i got it myself and added you. go ahead try some stuff get the hang of how it works. | [06:04] |
c1b3rshad3 | what is "armored" | [06:04] |
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rg | wtf? | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | that's some leet tech c1b3rshad3, you're not ready yet. | [06:05] |
rg | it was armored.. | [06:05] |
rg | [james@elephant ~]$ strings pubkey.txt.gpg |more | [06:06] |
rg | FQNK | [06:06] |
rg | [06:06] |
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zveda | like tony montana says, first the money.. then the jejo.. and then we get the women | [06:06] |
rawrmage | rg: lol | [06:06] |
rawrmage | if it was armoured | [06:06] |
rawrmage | it would end in .asc | [06:06] |
rg | oh | [06:06] |
rg | it does | [06:06] |
rg | i have both files | [06:06] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [06:06] |
mircea_popescu | he ARMORED IT THEN SENT ME THE OLD ONE | [06:06] |
rawrmage | hahah | [06:06] |
rg | nice | [06:06] |
mircea_popescu | somebody drive up to rg and give him a lapdance | [06:06] |
mircea_popescu | so he's ghey | [06:06] |
rg | my bad | [06:06] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, it's done nao, so. just go sell some /buy some | [06:07] |
c1b3rshad3 | i used to do computer tech work.. i was a network admin for a year also. before i quit to sell dope | [06:07] |
c1b3rshad3 | but i wasn't great at it.. just better than the idiots i worked with | [06:07] |
zveda | lol | [06:08] |
rg | mircea_popescu when does it start to work | [06:08] |
mircea_popescu | it should work already ? | [06:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | come on rg don't you wanna walk me through some more stuff | [06:08] |
c1b3rshad3 | j/k | [06:08] |
mircea_popescu | what you need posterboy ? | [06:08] |
rg | i mean when does it go live | [06:09] |
rg | with real companies | [06:09] |
c1b3rshad3 | i wanna be armored | [06:09] |
mircea_popescu | o. hopefully this month. | [06:09] |
mircea_popescu | c1b3rshad3 : gpg can output either alphanumeric only or normal binary | [06:09] |
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c1b3rshad3 | i'm just messin with ya'll really. | [06:09] |
mircea_popescu | armored is alphanumeric only | [06:09] |
c1b3rshad3 | so gpg is by defualt armored? | [06:09] |
c1b3rshad3 | default* | [06:10] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [06:10] |
c1b3rshad3 | oh i see.. has to be exclusively alphanumeric? | [06:10] |
c1b3rshad3 | instead of the either or option that it is right? | [06:10] |
mircea_popescu | yea | [06:12] |
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c1b3rshad3 | rg sell me btc for pp usd? | [06:12] |
c1b3rshad3 | so you're saying there are privacy apps that are better than gpg? they work with the gribble bot? should i leave this convo alone? | [06:13] |
mircea_popescu | i don't know of better privacy apps than gpg | [06:14] |
mircea_popescu | and afaik gribble is gpg only | [06:14] |
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BTC_Bear | c1b3rshad3: sure | [06:15] |
c1b3rshad3 | how much bear? | [06:15] |
BTC_Bear | ;;hexlify wtf are you saying? | [06:15] |
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BTC_Bear | ;;hexlify wtf are you saying? | [06:16] |
BTC_Bear | hm... | [06:16] |
BTC_Bear | only pm's | [06:16] |
c1b3rshad3 | BTC_Bear: k go | [06:16] |
BTC_Bear | no... | [06:16] |
BTC_Bear | something else... I was talking about | [06:17] |
BTC_Bear | oh... I'm nobody. That's why. | [06:17] |
LordCanti | ;;ticker | [06:21] |
gribble | Best bid: 4.89022, Best ask: 4.90644, Bid-ask spread: 0.01622, Last trade: 4.90644, 24 hour volume: 59221, 24 hour low: 4.88001, 24 hour high: 4.98 | [06:21] |
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danieldaniel | anyone know what the numbers were? | [06:22] |
BTC_Bear | megamillions thing? | [06:23] |
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danieldaniel | yeah | [06:23] |
BTC_Bear | nope | [06:23] |
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danieldaniel | aww | [06:23] |
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vanilla-vi | Would anyone here want to buy a vanilla visa? | [06:25] |
vanilla-vi | With about ~$60 on it. | [06:25] |
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paulo_ | ;;gpg eauth | [06:37] |
paulo_ | ;;gpg eauth paulo_ | [06:37] |
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bonks | what's a vanilla visa? | [06:48] |
benjamindees | it's a prepaid card | [06:49] |
rg | a prepaid visa card | [06:49] |
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yoo | hello | [06:50] |
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paulo_ | when I put the BUY price on my website, is it implied that I'm the one buying, or the customer is buying BTC? | [06:56] |
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mircea_popescu | use bid/ask | [06:58] |
benjamindees | what is your website? | [06:58] |
paulo_ | ASK is the price I'm selling BTCs? | [06:59] |
benjamindees | if you're talking about -otc, then BUY means you're buying the THING | [07:00] |
paulo_ | never mind BUY/SELL, i'll use bid/ask instead | [07:00] |
bonks | it is confusing. you can buy BTC for USD or sell USD for BTC, same shit | [07:00] |
paulo_ | no, in exchanges, the prices are different for selling and buying. | [07:01] |
bonks | oh im talking about -otc | [07:01] |
paulo_ | so, ASK is the price I'm selling BTCs? | [07:02] |
neofutur | ask mean the price you ask to sell it | [07:02] |
LordCanti | bonks, I always assumed that because this channel is dedicated to BTC exchange, that the BTC would be treated as the commodity | [07:02] |
LordCanti | so if you have BTC and I have cash, you are selling and I am buying | [07:02] |
bonks | LordCanti: yea but have you seen the order book, it's not exactly that :P | [07:02] |
neofutur | ask is the price you are selling at | [07:02] |
paulo_ | ok, i get it now. thanks | [07:03] |
LordCanti | true, it's not a rule, but it's how I think of it | [07:03] |
bonks | maybe the order book should remove BTC from the other thing | [07:03] |
neofutur | you could be selling dollars, asking for 0.202 btc / dollar | [07:03] |
bonks | well depending on buy or sell. idk, you know what i mean! | [07:03] |
neofutur | or you could be selling btcs asking for 5 $ / btc | [07:03] |
LordCanti | neofutur: true, it gets confusing with any currency exchange | [07:04] |
LordCanti | are you buying euros or selling dollars? | [07:04] |
LordCanti | I just figured treat the common medium of the room as the commodity | [07:04] |
LordCanti | semantically, at least | [07:04] |
neofutur | but anyway the seller needs to say what he is selling | [07:05] |
LordCanti | probably easiest to avoid shorthand | [07:05] |
LordCanti | clearly state the exchange wanted | [07:05] |
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bonks | that's what the notes column is for | [07:06] |
bonks | there needs to be predefined fields for sorting and filtering | [07:06] |
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joejohn101 | anyone wanna sell me bitcoins | [07:06] |
neofutur | ;;ident joejohn101 | [07:07] |
gribble | Nick 'joejohn101', with hostmask 'joejohn101!b8586dba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.88.109.186', is not identified. | [07:07] |
paulo_ | the ticker shows funny values for usd: http://bitcoin-otc.com/ticker.php | [07:07] |
neofutur | joejohn101: gpg register and ident if you want to have a chance to find sellers | [07:07] |
neofutur | read http://gw.gd/bcauth | [07:07] |
neofutur | ;;ident | [07:07] |
gribble | You are identified as user ne0futur, with GPG key id DF76B78C690B4E07, and key fingerprint 9CCD7DA270508805F47103D1DF76B78C690B4E07. | [07:07] |
joejohn101 | im registered | [07:08] |
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neofutur | so you need to ident | [07:08] |
joejohn101 | ;; eauth joejohn101 | [07:08] |
neofutur | ;;ident joejohn101 | [07:08] |
gribble | Nick 'joejohn101', with hostmask 'joejohn101!b8586dba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.88.109.186', is not identified. | [07:08] |
paulo_ | ,,getrating joejohn101 | [07:09] |
gribble | (getrating |
[07:09] |
paulo_ | ;;getrating joejohn101 | [07:09] |
gribble | User joejohn101, created on Tue Apr 3 13:41:49 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=joejohn101 Currently not authenticated. | [07:09] |
joejohn101 | ''gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:bf1f02a5e89e86b3f9dbacf6a70ea82923adb7605db0ca926d7f4103 | [07:14] |
joejohn101 | ;; gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:bf1f02a5e89e86b3f9dbacf6a70ea82923adb7605db0ca926d7f4103 | [07:15] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user joejohn101 with key 3915679D3BB57B94 | [07:15] |
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joejohn101 | ok so does anyone wanna sell me bitcoins? | [07:15] |
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joejohn101 | anyone wanna buy a money pak for bitcoins? | [07:19] |
joejohn101 | with bitconis | [07:19] |
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joejohn101 | hey i have a question. since there are now greendot prepaid debit cards that work like a visa debit card, then how come there isn't a service that just allows you to buy bitcoins right over the web | [07:23] |
joejohn101 | as far as i know you can't dispute those charges cause its not associated with your bank. you just buy them in walgreens and its a preloaded debit card sold by regular credit companies like visa and others | [07:25] |
joejohn101 | credit card companies | [07:25] |
BTC_Bear | Once it's on a CC, charge backs apply. | [07:26] |
BTC_Bear | MP to BTC do exist. | [07:26] |
joejohn101 | ya but on a prepaid visa you can do a charge back? | [07:26] |
joejohn101 | one bought in a store? | [07:26] |
BTC_Bear | Yes... all CC rules apply still. | [07:27] |
benjamindees | I think if you buy a prepaid visa with a visa, the universe implodes | [07:27] |
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joejohn101 | ok well that answers that | [07:27] |
joejohn101 | haha | [07:28] |
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joejohn101 | does anyone wanna sell me bitcoins for money pak? | [07:28] |
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jjjrmy | Who is moelmow? | [07:48] |
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rawrmage | jjjrmy: an irc user? | [07:52] |
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rg | would you guys use a remote wallet | [07:56] |
rg | if it allowed you to transfer bitcoins instantly | [07:56] |
rg | between users ofcourse | [07:57] |
rawrmage | probably not, but only because i don't really have a use for one | [07:57] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-otc | [18:04] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. | http://bitcoin-otc.com/ | http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 | Start with the ;;guide | Before trading, talk to people, and check ratings. | Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud | Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc | Bitcoin VPS: http://bitvps.com | BTC → MP @ http://btcpak.com | Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe | [18:04] |
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sturles | ;view 4939 | [18:40] |
sturles | ;;view 4939 | [18:40] |
gribble | #4939 Sat Apr 7 08:39:23 2012 sturles SELL 50.0 BTC @ 3.8683 EUR (Bank transfer) | [18:40] |
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sturles | Ah, he left. | [18:40] |
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occulta | can someone do me some LR please ! | [18:57] |
occulta | $50 needed | [18:57] |
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occulta | ;;seen Tril | [18:58] |
gribble | Tril was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: |
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Cory | The wall! | [19:01] |
mircea_popescu | lol the rally x.x | [19:01] |
occulta | ;;ticker | [19:02] |
gribble | Best bid: 4.8241, Best ask: 4.83899, Bid-ask spread: 0.01489, Last trade: 4.82408, 24 hour volume: 72632, 24 hour low: 4.751, 24 hour high: 4.98 | [19:02] |
Cory | mircea_popescu: Yeah, the wall was probably just taken down so the money can be used to buy up a bunch of BTC at market. :) | [19:02] |
Tril | No LR's here Occulta | [19:03] |
occulta | ah, damn :( | [19:03] |
occulta | buying @ $5 | [19:03] |
occulta | if that helps anyone | [19:03] |
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blinkbat | If anyone wants 0.01 btc pm me | [19:07] |
Blitzboom | mircea_popescu: i told you bitcoin is stable | [19:09] |
toffoo | occulta: have you tried nanotube? he's got an offer in LR vs. BTC on the otc board | [19:11] |
occulta | toffoo: i dont see any in the book ? | [19:12] |
bruzum | ;;ticker | [19:13] |
bruzum | ;;ticker | [19:14] |
Joric | this bitcoin is too damn stable | [19:14] |
copumpkin | Joric: I'm sure if you bribe enough people in here, it can be crashed | [19:14] |
Joric | i'm thinking of closing my long at 5 instead of 5.5 as i planned | [19:15] |
toffoo | ;;view 7093 | [19:15] |
gribble | #7093 Sun Jun 24 07:41:20 2012 nanotube BUY 100.0 btc @ 4.5899 LRUSD (smaller or larger amounts available, inquire within.) | [19:15] |
Blitzboom | Joric: you’ll probably panic sell soon | [19:15] |
Joric | naa, i'm not selling until 3.8 | [19:15] |
* | copumpkin keeps that in mind | [19:16] |
Blitzboom | that’s when you’ll get zhoutonged then | [19:16] |
Blitzboom | nice | [19:16] |
toffoo | your price of $5 seems a bit high though … if you're buying LR you're actually selling BTC @ $5 .. which seems above the market | [19:16] |
occulta | hmm, i still dont see that order lol | [19:17] |
occulta | yes i am buying above... because i want it now | [19:17] |
occulta | erm | [19:17] |
occulta | is that right? lol | [19:18] |
occulta | seems so lol | [19:18] |
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occulta | ill buy for 10.8btc $50 then | [19:19] |
occulta | thanks for the correction toffoo :) | [19:19] |
toffoo | yup, 50/10.8 = $4.63/btc, which seems more realistic | [19:20] |
Joric | a shitload of panic sells at 4.78 | [19:22] |
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toffoo | occulta: another suggestion might be to sell some BTC on btc-e.com, which I believe lets you withdraw the USD in LR | [19:23] |
Cory | Heh | [19:23] |
Cory | Hehehe | [19:24] |
Joric | 4.70 | [19:24] |
Joric | oh my balls | [19:24] |
occulta | toffoo: yea i think i tried that before, but it takes like 2days or something | [19:24] |
occulta | its 4.70 ? oo0 best check bitcoinica then :) | [19:24] |
occulta | ;;ticker | [19:24] |
gribble | Best bid: 4.77626, Best ask: 4.79931, Bid-ask spread: 0.02305, Last trade: 4.77623, 24 hour volume: 73175, 24 hour low: 4.751, 24 hour high: 4.98 | [19:24] |
Cory | There. Now the weak one's out. | [19:24] |
Joric | it just was | [19:25] |
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Joric | ;;ticker | [19:25] |
gribble | Best bid: 4.71723, Best ask: 4.73101, Bid-ask spread: 0.01378, Last trade: 4.7, 24 hour volume: 81841, 24 hour low: 4.7, 24 hour high: 4.98 | [19:25] |
Joric | gribble is little slow | [19:25] |
Blitzboom | someone is hugely short right now | [19:25] |
Blitzboom | https://bitcoinica.com/pages/interest | [19:25] |
Blitzboom | this is the lowest i have ever seen | [19:25] |
occulta | i onyl recently ventured into bitcoinica, must i click 'liquidate' if i am in profit? lol | [19:26] |
Joric | yep | [19:27] |
occulta | i was testing it out with 0.1 btc | [19:27] |
blinkbat | jesus whats happening | [19:27] |
Joric | you may also buy/sell the equal sum for liquidating | [19:27] |
occulta | been waiting for it to drop for ages lol | [19:27] |
occulta | Joric: i may come back to you later for some advice :) | [19:27] |
Joric | yeah listen to me, just do the opposite | [19:28] |
occulta | i have no idea what i am doing, i was just doing 'trial and error' lol | [19:28] |
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gigavps | good afternoon | [19:29] |
Blitzboom | heya | [19:30] |
occulta | afternoon | [19:30] |
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DeaDTerra | hello :) | [19:32] |
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occulta | Joric, if my base price on bitocinica, is 4.73, why is my PL negative? | [19:33] |
occulta | -1.519% | [19:33] |
blinkbat | anyone want free btc? | [19:33] |
blinkbat | pm me | [19:33] |
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mircea_popescu | o wow, going down | [19:34] |
copumpkin | that's what she said | [19:34] |
Blitzboom | mircea_popescu: u short? | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | lol copumpkin you dirty old man you | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | Blitzboom : ideally it stays under 6 for me. otherwise i dun care. | [19:34] |
Blitzboom | gigavps: nice offering you got there with the bonds | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | and frankly i don't see it going over 6 | [19:34] |
gigavps | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.0 | [19:35] |
gigavps | if anyone wants in on pre-sales, let me know | [19:35] |
mircea_popescu | gigavps : you gonna do sometyhing for mpex too ? | [19:35] |
gigavps | i won't be on for long but you can PM on the forums | [19:35] |
gigavps | i may have to issue another 10k as this thing is selling out quick | [19:36] |
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occulta | gigavps: what does that mean to a noob like me ? | [19:36] |
gigavps | occulta: more demand than supply | [19:37] |
occulta | return-wise | [19:37] |
Blitzboom | LOL | [19:37] |
Blitzboom | all shares are going to be gone before the IPO | [19:37] |
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DeaDTerra | I wanted some shares :( and now they will be all gone before the IPO xD | [19:40] |
gigavps | DeaDTerra: there are some left if you would like to make a pre-sale purchase | [19:42] |
DeaDTerra | Don't have 100 BTC laying around atm, they are all tied up :8 | [19:43] |
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Joric | occulta, there's always a difference between buy and sell price, zhou tries to maintain at least 1% | [19:49] |
Joric | occulta, bitcoinica always forces you to wait for big market movements | [19:49] |
Joric | he's also maintain 50 btc liquidity ie you can't buy/sell more than 50 btc at a given price eg to sell 1000 btc at once, i didn't know that earlier | [19:52] |
toffoo | has anyone here analyzed this gigavps deal carefully? (haven't slept in a while, too tired to check it myself) is it a good deal? any reason not trust sending gigavps some BTC? | [19:53] |
gigavps | toffoo, i'm authed if you would like to check my otc rating | [19:54] |
gigavps | and you can check glbse.com listings for similar bonds to see what they are listed at | [19:54] |
gigavps | puremining and bitbond are the two closest things | [19:55] |
gigavps | puremining bond == 1Mh/s | [19:55] |
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occulta | toffoo: i just took 450bonds, i trust him | [19:55] |
gigavps | bitbond == 2Mh/s | [19:55] |
gigavps | gigamining == 5Mh/s | [19:55] |
occulta | i would have took the whole 1000 if i had funds available | [19:55] |
DeaDTerra | I am looking for investors for Gamma Bitcoin Fund, a low risk investment fund that invests in bonds,shares,stocks,loans,currency exchange and arbitrage/margin bot trading. For more info check this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74975.0 | [19:55] |
toffoo | ok, sounds good, thanks | [19:56] |
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Coolio- | selling 80btc for western union | [19:56] |
kakobrekla | how many shares left gigavps xD | [19:56] |
blinkbat | last chance to get free bitcoins, any takers? pm me | [19:57] |
Coolio- | free? | [19:57] |
Blitzboom | i’m always amazed how eager people are to invest their BTC | [19:57] |
gigavps | little over 3k | [19:57] |
Joric | just drop an mtgox code here | [19:57] |
Coolio- | must be a catch | [19:57] |
Blitzboom | seems people are not … not hoarding? :OO | [19:57] |
Coolio- | i can't afford to hoard | [19:57] |
Joric | i'm hoarding dollars | [19:59] |
gigavps | i hoard both | [19:59] |
Blitzboom | that’s like hoarding apples | [20:00] |
Blitzboom | they will go bad | [20:00] |
blinkbat | hehe too true | [20:00] |
blinkbat | hoard gold, its better | [20:00] |
GlooBoy | b back in 15mins | [20:01] |
Blitzboom | at current prices? no | [20:01] |
blinkbat | im not sure if the usd will last much longer | [20:02] |
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Blitzboom | it’s so quiet in here | [20:07] |
Joric | yeah nobody yells buy or sell | [20:08] |
Blitzboom | YELL! | [20:08] |
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Joric | gavin said his primary target was to make bitcoin boring | [20:08] |
Blitzboom | yeah, i would like to see that too | [20:08] |
toffoo | he's succeeding with flying colors ;) | [20:08] |
Joric | 'Mr. Andresen, the keynote speaker, talked about the need for volunteers on the Bitcoin project, especially a quality assurance manager, which would be a paid position. He said he hopes that in five years, Bitcoin “will be boring.” As in, no calls from reporters, no hype and no drama.' | [20:09] |
Blitzboom | will never happen :D | [20:10] |
blinkbat | bitcoin should be boring, the ecosystem shouldnt | [20:10] |
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mircea_popescu | just added DIVIDEND payments to MPEX. if anyone feels like pretending they own one of the test stocks and issue a dividend, be my guest! | [20:17] |
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DeaDTerra | someone is really forcing the prices down | [20:17] |
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mircea_popescu | o wow, going to 4.7 huh | [20:18] |
DeaDTerra | look at the very very aggresive walls | [20:20] |
DeaDTerra | someone is really eager to force the price down | [20:20] |
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kakobrekla | hm | [20:21] |
kakobrekla | my buy order at 4.7 didnt trigger | [20:22] |
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mcorlett | Joric: That was TruCoin initially sponsoring key dev team members, but when the bubble burst, things started going south. I believe only Gavin is being paid right now. | [20:23] |
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gmaxwell | Gavin appeared to comment the other day that TruCoin wasn't sponsoring him anymore. | [20:25] |
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mcorlett | gmaxwell: Interesting - thanks! | [20:26] |
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occulta | so im buying 4.5GHs of power | [20:27] |
occulta | hopefully get a decent return | [20:27] |
occulta | :) | [20:27] |
prime | What stock is that? mircea_popescu: | [20:27] |
mcorlett | occulta: A contract or actual hardware? | [20:28] |
occulta | contract mcorlett, gigamining | [20:28] |
occulta | well, bonds | [20:28] |
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mcorlett | occulta: I've been scouting that bond. Good luck! | [20:28] |
occulta | anyone got contact for Netfario? if thats his name, the owner of GLBSE? | [20:28] |
mircea_popescu | prime hm ? | [20:28] |
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mcorlett | occulta: doctor.nefario@gmail.com | [20:28] |
occulta | ah, thanks. the site looks horrific, just want to ask about core security thats all :) | [20:29] |
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znort987 | ;;eauth znort987 | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | occulta : you want to give mpex a look too! | [20:29] |
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prime | mircea_popescu: your test stock, are people buying worthless stock? Am i reading that wrong? | [20:30] |
mcorlett | prime: It hasn't really launched yet. | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | they are buying worthless stock with play pretend money | [20:30] |
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znort987 | ;;everify znort987 freenode:#bitcoin-otc:b530e9d0c389081418c5b5b1c7c62f120ae3be5f7bb94707dba1f81d | [20:31] |
znort987 | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:b530e9d0c389081418c5b5b1c7c62f120ae3be5f7bb94707dba1f81d | [20:31] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user znort987 with key FD5AA2A5E26602B0 | [20:31] |
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znort987 | ;;help rate | [20:33] |
gribble | (rate |
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znort987 | ;;rate PatrickHarnett 2 Loaned him a fairly large amount. Repaid in full wit interests and in advance. | [20:34] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user PatrickHarnett has been recorded. | [20:34] |
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tex | anyone selling bitcoins? | [20:40] |
prime | Me | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | znort987 : get patrick to use the wot more! | [20:40] |
tex | rate? | [20:40] |
prime | Unfortunatley, i dont have a score here, so im not to be trusted | [20:40] |
prime | Plus, i cant spell | [20:40] |
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occulta | tex im selling some for LR ? | [20:44] |
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Coolio- | i'm selling 80btc for western union | [20:48] |
Coolio- | i'm also selling some for LR | [20:48] |
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Coolio- | but mostly WU | [20:48] |
ircWALK | isnt' that really risky? wu fraud and all that.. | [20:48] |
Coolio- | risky how? | [20:48] |
Coolio- | look at my rating | [20:49] |
Coolio- | ;;getrating coolio- | [20:49] |
Coolio- | WU is non-reversible like bitconi | [20:49] |
Coolio- | bitcoin | [20:49] |
Coolio- | it's one of the ideal purchasing methods | [20:50] |
Coolio- | it can also be done anonymously | [20:50] |
Coolio- | to avoid monitoring by authorities | [20:50] |
ircWALK | oh right. didn't realise wu was unreversible. | [20:51] |
ircWALK | i thought loads of people send fraudulent wu funds around | [20:51] |
Coolio- | no 'wu fraud' refers to the same thing as a bitcoin scam | [20:52] |
Coolio- | where someone gets you to send first | [20:52] |
Coolio- | then never finishes their part of the deal | [20:52] |
Coolio- | and you can't get your funds back from WU | [20:52] |
Coolio- | just like you can't get your bitcoins back from the scammer no matter what | [20:52] |
ircWALK | well im sure that people can send money fraudulently on wu. i remember when i send money by wu first time, they didn't ask me for any id verification or anything | [20:53] |
Coolio- | exactly | [20:53] |
Coolio- | if it's under $500 i thinki | [20:53] |
Coolio- | there's no id requirement | [20:53] |
occulta | Coolio-: you are selling LR, or buying ? | [20:53] |
Coolio- | i'm buying LR | [20:53] |
Coolio- | i want like $40 of LR, or a $450 western union payment | [20:54] |
blinkbat | are there any bitcoin users in the uk? | [20:54] |
ircWALK | im in uk and i use btc sometimes | [20:54] |
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occulta | i want $50 of LR | [20:55] |
occulta | buying for 10.8btc | [20:55] |
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blinkbat | ircWALK: u rated? | [20:55] |
GlooBoy | ;;rate easye420 1 Easy MP for BTC. No Probs. Welcome to OTC. | [20:59] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user easye420 has been recorded. | [20:59] |
blinkbat | ;;getrating ircWALK | [20:59] |
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prime | So, anyone else think that this sudden dip is the delayed entry into the market by those touched by recent bit coin articles from last week? | [21:02] |
prime | The Reuters article was pretty big, lots of readers | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | lol why'd it dip | [21:04] |
occulta | apparently pat from intersango tested GLBSE :) | [21:04] |
prime | Magic? | [21:04] |
occulta | makes me feel betgter already | [21:05] |
bitfoo | you mean all the new money went into shorting bitcoin? :P | [21:05] |
blinkbat | probably cause someone is trying to short sell bitcoin | [21:05] |
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prime | Ah ha ha ha ha | [21:05] |
prime | Im gonna go make a bet that bitcoin is going to touch $7 this month. | [21:05] |
blinkbat | im gonna bet bitcoin is gonna touch 0.7$ | [21:06] |
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occulta | blinkbat: how much? | [21:06] |
occulta | :) | [21:06] |
dwon | blinkbat: I'd be willing to bet against your bet. | [21:06] |
occulta | does anyone know if the btc-e owner is authed here? | [21:07] |
prime | Where shall we bet? | [21:07] |
pigeons | occulta: i don't think he's in -otc, but he does come on freenode occasionaly. I'll check my logs for his nick, he says he's from Belarussia I think | [21:08] |
pigeons | Belarus | [21:08] |
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occulta | i want some fast LR, wonder if he can help me out | [21:08] |
prime | Because i went to a party last night with a bunch of nontechnical 25-35 year old males and females who brought up bitcoin and a desire to buy some. The average person is finding out about it | [21:09] |
NeedHelp | Hi, is nelisky here? | [21:09] |
prime | At least here in the PNW | [21:09] |
pigeons | there is contact info on https://btc-e.com/page/1 | [21:09] |
blinkbat | i was joking lol] | [21:09] |
blinkbat | prime: really? | [21:10] |
blinkbat | prime: how did it go? | [21:10] |
occulta | i was hoping for some instant help pigeons, but thanks a bunch, ill drop him a mail | [21:10] |
prime | One person thought it was a ponzi, the rest were very interested in using it for travel. | [21:10] |
ircWALK | [18:55] |
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ircWALK | not here | [21:11] |
ircWALK | i have one successful trade done with a respected guy on bitcointalk | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2126007/Bill-Gates-funds-new-machine-filters-toilet-waste-drinkable-water.html | [21:11] |
pigeons | well if you just sell and withdraw, it isn't instant, but usually within a couple hours | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | that guy is like the bane of humanity. | [21:11] |
pigeons | aurumxchange.com has always been pretty immediate for me | [21:12] |
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prime | A journalist friend was telling me that next time he is on assignment, he is going to use bitcoin to move his money overseas. Not sure how much cheaper that is but he was doing most of the talking | [21:12] |
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occulta | pigeons: LR in 2hours? | [21:13] |
ircWALK | i dont like how aurumxchange.com is down now :| | [21:13] |
NeedHelp | ok, thanks | [21:13] |
pigeons | occulta: yes, but not the same amount of time every time, i suspect it is manual on their end | [21:13] |
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occulta | yea, i think so too, why i was hoping he may be online | [21:14] |
pigeons | one time 45 min, one time 15, one time 2 hours | [21:14] |
occulta | well i guess if nobody here can sell me some, ill have to go with that | [21:14] |
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blinkbat | mircea_popescu: bill gates seems to be ona mission to save the world, but in my opinion, he should stick to software engineering | [21:16] |
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blinkbat | because hes only like to fuck things up | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | in my oppinion he should be affixed to a pole in the poorer sections of bombay. | [21:17] |
blinkbat | hehe | [21:17] |
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mircea_popescu | if what he did was computer engineering then whores everywhere are celebrating mass. | [21:18] |
blinkbat | well, it was probably more to business/raping and pillaging | [21:19] |
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blinkbat | but in any case, computer engineering is closer to what he does than inventing useless crap and lecturing about co2 | [21:19] |
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CanuckTux | bill gates is just on a mission to get filthy rich right now | [21:32] |
CanuckTux | and he's already there | [21:32] |
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CanuckTux | but like everyone in this rat race, He stil wants more, and continues selling software that most people think they need for a really high price | [21:33] |
blinkbat | hmm | [21:34] |
blinkbat | hes giving most of his money away | [21:35] |
blinkbat | but hes just deluded to think he can fix the world | [21:35] |
blinkbat | hes giving his kids a pittance lol, if i were them id hate him | [21:35] |
mircea_popescu | ya, right. he's giving most of his money away to an organised effort to ensure nobody else ever makes money | [21:36] |
mircea_popescu | and certainly nobody else in his original position. | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | warren buffett does the same bullshit, it's disgusting. "oh, i pay less tax than my secretary, must increase taxes" | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | except... well... he ISNT PAYING HIMSELF A SALARY | [21:37] |
luke-jr | Gates's donations are to evil orgs | [21:37] |
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mircea_popescu | the only thing higher taxes do is keep people from getting to be rich | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | they basically are on a mission to be the last gates, buffett etc. | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | which come to think about it, kinda makes sense in a perverted sort of way. | [21:38] |
CanuckTux | why doesn't bill gates just cut his profit margins in half | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | cause then he wouldn't have billionsto fuck up ther world with. | [21:39] |
CanuckTux | then he would be benefitting the working class in north america | [21:39] |
luke-jr | CanuckTux: but he doesn't *want* to do good | [21:41] |
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CanuckTux | well then | [21:42] |
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CanuckTux | *pulls out rifle* | [21:42] |
CanuckTux | some one here has got to go | [21:42] |
NeedHelp | Hi, someone here who can help me out to change some Paysafecards into BTC | [21:43] |
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joecool | anyone want newestiphone.com, make your offer | [21:44] |
jjjrmy | joecool: interested in youwonanipad.com or winipads.com ? | [21:44] |
occulta | does btc-e wait for 6 confirms pigeons ? | [21:46] |
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pigeons | 3 confirms, but maybe/hopefully they increased to 6 with the orphan block issue | [21:47] |
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prime | Quick! buy 1 btc for 1.5 btc! http://bidonbitcoins.com/auction.php?id=162 | [21:49] |
c1b3rshad3 | where's rg. i want to buy him something else to eat | [21:50] |
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Azelphur | prime: ...wat | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | ;;seen grubles | [21:52] |
prime | The site has a bot that out bids you even if its above the price of the item being auctioned. | [21:52] |
prime | *is higher | [21:52] |
Azelphur | haha | [21:52] |
prime | I am posting a screenshot of this one for public ridicule | [21:53] |
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mircea_popescu | lmao prime | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | i wanna see the proofs, might blog it | [21:53] |
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occulta | lol prime? looks like bitcoinica | [21:54] |
occulta | the top bar i mean | [21:54] |
prime | blog away http://i.imgur.com/X2BLn.jpg | [21:55] |
Blitzboom | nice ponzi scheme | [21:55] |
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dwon | occulta: Lots of sites look like bitcoinica: http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ | [21:58] |
pigeons | it looks like bitcoinica because it uses the twitter bootstrap css | [21:58] |
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pigeons | and i don't think ponzi scheme is the right term | [21:58] |
prime | Fraud perhaps? | [21:58] |
pigeons | if they run that bot you allege, then fraud would work | [21:59] |
prime | Someone is a redditer... great job http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ry5xd/bidonbitcoinscom_fraud/ | [21:59] |
prime | fast too | [21:59] |
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pigeons | i doubt that is their bot though | [22:01] |
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mircea_popescu | why pigeons ? | [22:01] |
c1b3rshad3 | i made a song about my little weeny. maybe when i get voice i'll sing it for yall | [22:02] |
dirkdizzler | today's drunkness is brought to you by woodchuck belgian white cider and newcastle brown ale | [22:02] |
c1b3rshad3 | :p | [22:02] |
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prime | Who else would have the incentive of doing this other than the one who placed the btc for sale | [22:03] |
dirkdizzler | wts r you babbling on about | [22:03] |
pigeons | i think its more likely someone trying to make him look bad. just based on how he's been talking about it and the people who hate him have. | [22:04] |
ircWALK | does blockchain.info let you buy bitcoins for credit card right? | [22:04] |
pigeons | if he wanted to cheat he would be more subtle, comon | [22:05] |
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prime | Lol, here he goes again http://bidonbitcoins.com/auction.php?id=163 | [22:05] |
gmaxwell | ircWALK: I would be surprised if _anything_ let you buy bitcoisn for credit card. | [22:05] |
ircWALK | thats what i thought! | [22:05] |
gmaxwell | 11:58 <+pigeons> and i don't think ponzi scheme is the right term | [22:05] |
gmaxwell | Is that the dollar auction you're talking about? | [22:05] |
pigeons | yes | [22:05] |
ircWALK | i thought blockchain.info would be trustworthy for some reason. just given the domain nmae | [22:05] |
gmaxwell | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction | [22:05] |
dirkdizzler | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:4a96ed215cfa09dcc8d6902fa0e1cd5048042171f7a8725f593dadb8 | [22:06] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user jcpham with key C71FB5ED6ACE04AF | [22:06] |
pigeons | yeah, he is upfront about that's what he;s doing | [22:06] |
dirkdizzler | ;;voiceme | [22:06] |
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gmaxwell | A dollar auction isn't a scam, it's an intelligence test. | [22:07] |
occulta | anyone else buying some gigamining bonds? | [22:07] |
prime | Very interesting technique for fooling people out of money. I'm just watching for entertainment value. | [22:07] |
pigeons | hehe, like the lottery | [22:07] |
gmaxwell | "Can you forsee the logical conclusion of this simple system?" | [22:07] |
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smickles | mcorlett: I am now | [22:08] |
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ircWALK | is there any way of buying bitcoins using some sort of premium rate number that you ring / sms? | [22:12] |
ircWALK | i have no idea if thats what https://blockchain.info/wallet/sms-phone-deposits is or not | [22:12] |
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ircWALK | ah it looks like it is | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | i think there is but kind of expensiv.e | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | cash in mail prolly a better alternative. | [22:12] |
pigeons | dialcoin.com was working at one time at least, and yeah was way expensive | [22:13] |
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ircWALK | they dont even mention rates on the website blockchain. *fp* | [22:13] |
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ircWALK | Service currenty not available in the United Kingdom yet. Please choose a different country or package | [22:15] |
ircWALK | noooo | [22:15] |
occulta | lol | [22:15] |
occulta | ircWALK: what was wrong with mtgox in the end? | [22:15] |
ircWALK | nothing. im just looking around different options | [22:15] |
ircWALK | You Pay: $ 37.77 You Receive: 3.44059207 BTC ... haha hilarious | [22:15] |
occulta | ah ok | [22:15] |
Blitzboom | hahahaha | [22:16] |
occulta | bargain! | [22:16] |
Blitzboom | nice premium | [22:16] |
occulta | Blitzboom: you are a moderator on bitointalk right? has anyone ever been banned? lol | [22:16] |
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Blitzboom | on bitcointalk generally? sure, there are bans | [22:17] |
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NeedHelp | Hello, coul please someone help me out to change some PSC into BTC ? | [22:17] |
occulta | apparently fraud isnt a good enough reason lol | [22:17] |
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occulta | or, the levels of 'proof' are just ridiculous | [22:18] |
Blitzboom | there’s a scammer tag | [22:18] |
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occulta | i pointed out that someone is selling soemthing for a -20% loss, something purchased with a credit card, and i got raped | [22:18] |
occulta | ill keep my mouth shut next time, and let innocent buyers get raped instead :) | [22:19] |
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occulta | BadBear refused to do anything about it | [22:19] |
MindChild | Dude. He could be selling a bunch of cards he got from coinstar or relatives or hitting kewpie dolls | [22:19] |
occulta | MindChild: he bought them on amazon with a credit card, i spoke with the Gift card 'specialist' team lol | [22:20] |
occulta | $1000 in $100 cards | [22:20] |
occulta | the ones i checked | [22:20] |
MindChild | How would you be able to get financial information of someone elses trasnaction | [22:20] |
MindChild | that sounds equally as fishy | [22:20] |
occulta | dont know, ask amazon... | [22:20] |
MindChild | fair enough | [22:20] |
occulta | you can check codes out, if they are real and where they were purchased | [22:21] |
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occulta | they dont give you customers information | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | is this the cause of the "occulta is a scammer" thread there ? | [22:21] |
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occulta | mircea_popescu: that thread was made by someone who didnt agree with my claims about a 100% scammer | [22:22] |
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occulta | thats why i said ill keep my mouth shut next time, :) | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | btctalk is such a cesspool at times | [22:22] |
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occulta | it would be ok if mods did something about it, being as its so obvious and all, even theymos refused to do anything unless i could get amazon to contact him directly... | [22:23] |
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pigeons | i'm gonna list something like this on GLBSE ;) http://www.fossiloil.com/mobi/ | [22:26] |
NeedHelp | noone? PSC to BTC | [22:26] |
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kakobrekla | NeedHelp some people in #bitcoin-otc-eu do PSC | [22:28] |
dwon | I'm kinda glad I didn't win the auction for luke-jr's BFL Single. Looks like there are several bugs to iron out: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3286/why-does-the-bfl-single-produce-50-stales-with-p2pool | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | Completion Process Nearly Completed! lol | [22:28] |
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mircea_popescu | Is it possible that the hashing is not actually being done on the chip itself? And it's just taking place on an external server then submitted to the P2Pool node, which would maybe explain why the stale rate is so high due to network latency? (especially since BFL refuse to say what chip they are actually using in their Singles) | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | thats big. | [22:29] |
NeedHelp | hello kakobrekla... thank you for information!!!! | [22:30] |
c1b3rshad3 | ;;rate sturles 1 sold me 3 coins at great price. hope to do business with again. | [22:30] |
dwon | mircea_popescu: I doubt that. If the thing were a complete fraud, why would it have problems running above 72F? | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | a, no, david schwartz has a full explanation there. | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | look on the link, 2nd answer. | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | basically you're right, their firmware could use some tuning | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | whoa actually going to 4.7 ?! | [22:33] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ident bekabang | [22:35] |
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smickles | ;;bc,stats | [22:41] |
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gribble | Current Blocks: 174688 | Current Difficulty: 1626553.4813289 | Next Difficulty At Block: 175391 | Next Difficulty In: 703 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 7 hours, 7 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1548224.49791245 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.81564143547 | [22:41] |
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smickles | ;;calc 50/[bc,diff] | [22:41] |
gribble | 3.07398438317e-05 | [22:41] |
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smickles | ;;calc 50/[bc,diff]*1.1 | [22:41] |
gribble | 3.38138282149e-05 | [22:41] |
luke-jr | dwon: that's not really a bug | [22:42] |
luke-jr | more of a design flaw in the current firmware | [22:42] |
luke-jr | and it's more p2pool to blame than the BFL :p | [22:42] |
c1b3rshad3 | ;;rate sturles 1 sold me 3 btc at great price. hope to do business with again. | [22:42] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user sturles has been recorded. | [22:42] |
dwon | I consider design flaws to be bugs | [22:42] |
luke-jr | dwon: OK, but in any case, it's mostly a p2pool issue | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | why p2pool ? seems its a firmware issue ? | [22:43] |
luke-jr | mircea_popescu: because p2pool runs its own blockchain | [22:43] |
luke-jr | with 10 second blocks | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | ugh | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | o srsly ?! | [22:43] |
luke-jr | yes | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | didn't know that. why ? | [22:44] |
luke-jr | that's just how it's designed | [22:44] |
gmaxwell | mircea_popescu: why are you ugging, it makes perfect sense. | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | well why not 18 microsecond | [22:44] |
Cory | It's decentralized in a similar way to Bitcoin. | [22:44] |
luke-jr | mircea_popescu: that's ridiculous | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | i am ugging cuz i don't get it lol. | [22:44] |
gmaxwell | mircea_popescu: it uses the same approach bitcoin user to reach decenteralized consensus about who the pool should pay. | [22:44] |
gmaxwell | s/user/uses/ | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | o, and then it needs better granularity than the blockchain ? | [22:45] |
luke-jr | well, that's the point of pools… | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | yeh. ok. | [22:45] |
gmaxwell | And not 18ms because the bitcoin algorithim falls down as the block time goes below the latency between nodes. | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | i never mined, so much of these obvious things are news to me, is all. | [22:46] |
gmaxwell | if it used 10 minute blocks then if p2pool became as big as bitcoin then p2pool shares would be the same difficulty as bitcoin. :) | [22:46] |
gmaxwell | (though it would still be more stable than solo because of the windowed payouts) | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | but at any rate, in the end it's not a problem of p2pool, but in fact of how bfl reports/gets work | [22:46] |
luke-jr | mircea_popescu: BFL could do it better, but so far no FPGA has the magic bullet to do so | [22:47] |
luke-jr | Icarus does better, but still has issues, for example | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | well for one thing, it could drop the work once new block is announced | [22:47] |
gmaxwell | Yea, the ginormous work units isn't great for straight solo mining either, frankly, just not terrible. | [22:47] |
luke-jr | mircea_popescu: BFL can do that. | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | that would cut some of the loss neh ? | [22:47] |
luke-jr | mircea_popescu: I have a private patch for cgminer to do that, in fact. | [22:48] |
gmaxwell | You don't really want LPs to flush the pipeline though. | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | a aha ? | [22:48] |
luke-jr | private because I want BFL to fix their crap right ;) | [22:48] |
gmaxwell | E.g. if you have nonces half way done you don't want to actually throw away that work.. stale shares may still be credited. | [22:48] |
luke-jr | gmaxwell: my patch is pretty much aware of how Eligius credits shares :P | [22:49] |
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gmaxwell | luke-jr: have you cooked up a patch to reorg onto your own solutions if they're tied? | [22:50] |
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luke-jr | gmaxwell: no | [22:50] |
luke-jr | gmaxwell: cost/benefit doesn't meet requirements :P | [22:51] |
ircWALK | i was thinking about blockchain.info. fair enough by mobile sms they have to charge exotironate rates to account for fraud. but why dont they have another service so you can pay by premium rate calls done by a /land line/ ? | [22:51] |
smickles | legal issues | [22:51] |
smickles | IIRC | [22:52] |
luke-jr | ircWALK: huh? | [22:52] |
smickles | ircWALK: also, I think the high rates are to account for service fees | [22:53] |
gmaxwell | ircWALK: where on their site do they sell coin? | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | ircWALK : its not fraud, it's that sms processors charge > 50% | [22:53] |
gmaxwell | mobile/sms payments services charge huge fees.. like 10% or something crazy like that. | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | like half. | [22:53] |
gmaxwell | okay, I didn't think it was that much but I'd believe it. | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | as in, donate 2 euros by sms ? | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | 1.05 goes to processor. | [22:54] |
smickles | heh, remember all that 'text for hati' crap | [22:54] |
smickles | phone companies must have made millions | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | indeed. | [22:54] |
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mircea_popescu | hmm, i wonder how come there's no fetis/sexshop for btc yet. | [23:05] |
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toffoo | mircea_popescu: yes, that is a seriously great idea | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | prolly helps if it's an already established shop, and at any rate must have active support here/on the forum | [23:11] |
toffoo | or, a service that anonymously sells you sex toys from any online sex shop, with bitcoins | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | but yea, i imagine it'd make decent money. | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | or that, yea. even better an ideea | [23:11] |
toffoo | or, a service that would anonymously sign you up for porn sites, again with bitcoin | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | you get volume discounts, act as a price comparison etc | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | i dont think there's much money in that last one. | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | i bet you the avg pornstash of the btc community is over 1gb. | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | while the avg yearly pornsite subscription prolly under 10 bux | [23:12] |
toffoo | yes, the problem is the porn buying community doesn't really intersect with the bitcoin using community | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | hardly a problem imo. | [23:13] |
mircea_popescu | but the gear, i imagine that has a market. | [23:13] |
toffoo | yes | [23:13] |
toffoo | the anon bitcoin sex toys/sex shop is the best idea | [23:13] |
toffoo | and maybe if it works or there's demand you do the porn subscription thing too | [23:14] |
toffoo | there must be a lot of horny old men out there who want to subscribe to a porn site but don't want the charge showing up on the wife's credit card | [23:15] |
toffoo | if only they knew about bitcoin | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | lol exactly. | [23:15] |
occulta | did bitcoin girls gone wild take off? | [23:16] |
occulta | i loved that reddit | [23:16] |
toffoo | lets see... | [23:16] |
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mircea_popescu | not rly. | [23:16] |
toffoo | 111 submissions and 427 readers | [23:19] |
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ircWALK | ;;view | [23:21] |
gribble | #7512 Wed Apr 4 17:45:58 2012 ircwalk SELL 1.0 50$ Amazon.com e-gift card @ 0.8 80percent (of retail value. will send to trustworthy people first) | [23:21] |
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occulta | hmm shame, i liked the idea | [23:24] |
occulta | :) | [23:24] |
MBS | lol | [23:24] |
dwon | This looks like an interesting way to get new people using Bitcoin: http://btctip.com/ | [23:24] |
MBS | hoping best buy has some more good video game deals soon | [23:24] |
occulta | there are so many girls who sell themselves on webcam | [23:24] |
MBS | getting pretty close to $20 reward zone voucher | [23:24] |
MBS | wish i was a girl :( | [23:24] |
occulta | bitcoin would be a great facilitator for them | [23:24] |
MBS | could make so much $$$ doing it | [23:25] |
MBS | why? | [23:25] |
occulta | for sure, that one girl got like 30btc in a few hours lol | [23:25] |
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MBS | most do it through sites that have token systems anyway | [23:25] |
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ircWALK | lol yea. if i was a fit girl id make a fortune through cam work. id know who to target, how to get myself known. id have multiple accounts on different forums etc | [23:25] |
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MBS | could make so much money on myfreecams | [23:25] |
mircea_popescu | actually dwon you've inspired me. | [23:26] |
MBS | cams cost nothing to view normally, but they get so much in tips there | [23:26] |
dwon | mircea_popescu: eh? | [23:26] |
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ircWALK | i got a reallllly silk idea to get people to deposit coins | [23:27] |
ircWALK | but i wouldn't want anything to do with it ;) | [23:27] |
ircWALK | would likely land people in alot of trouble | [23:27] |
ircWALK | sick* | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | ok, so i got bitpal.us, and will make a "send bitcoin to anyone with an email" service. | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | exactly how paypal got to be big. | [23:28] |
dwon | mircea_popescu: Yes. We need something like that. | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [23:28] |
ircWALK | that sounds good. but what are the funding options? | [23:28] |
dwon | could start with just mtgox/bitinstant | [23:28] |
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MBS | should have 849 reward zone points when these new purchases show up and get confirmed | [23:29] |
dwon | or just bitcoin, actuallu | [23:29] |
dwon | *actually | [23:29] |
MBS | need 1000 for $20 | [23:29] |
dwon | ircWALK: btctip.com looks like it's just an escrow, effectively. BTC in, BTC out | [23:29] |
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mircea_popescu | just bitcoin. | [23:29] |
dwon | the curious thing is that the site doesn't say who's behind it, although I assume that's just an oversight | [23:30] |
MBS | instead of being able to send bitcoins to anyone with an email | [23:30] |
MBS | instead have them use their bitcoin address AS their email | [23:30] |
MBS | REVOLUTIONARY | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | no mbs, bad ideea | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | you don't know receiver actually has bitcoin addy yet. | [23:31] |
MBS | nah | [23:31] |
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MBS | you get an email like 1GMaG5BNZ3ZJQSsC21cjgra8WJ3kUUFScj@bitmail.com | [23:31] |
MBS | also obviously im just joking, its a horrid idea | [23:32] |
dwon | I really like the PayPal/Twitter/whatever model. Send somebody Bitcoins, thus giving them a financial incentive to go through the initial steps of setting up an exchange account (or whatever) | [23:32] |
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dwon | PayPal is a bit of a pain to set up, too, if you want to receive money, but people forget about that once they've done it once. | [23:33] |
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dwon | Same thing goes for Bitcoin. It's now really easy for me to buy & sell BTC, but it took a little while to set up. | [23:34] |
BohemianHacks | woot, due to pooled mining I now have a whole extra penny! | [23:34] |
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ircWALK | i couldn't imagine btc funding being any easier for me. setup mtgox. bank wire money. buy bitcoins. boom | [23:36] |
ircWALK | im not sure about the security of leaving your coins with mtgox though | [23:36] |
ircWALK | i need to look into how to not trust mtgox with my money | [23:36] |
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ircWALK | there is a fudning method which hasn't been done yet i think | [23:39] |
ircWALK | poker site transfer | [23:39] |
ircWALK | poker players are generally loose with their money | [23:39] |
toffoo | go on. how does that work? | [23:39] |
ircWALK | well there is a possibility of chargeback. but its obvious which accounts are fraudulent and which are not | [23:40] |
ircWALK | maybe you could contact the poker site before actually accepting money from another person too | [23:40] |
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ircWALK | you could make it so that only accounts that are in good standing with the poker site are allowed to buy bitcoins off you | [23:40] |
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MBS | anything want to buy something for bitcoins? | [23:49] |
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dwon | I want to buy everything for bitcoins | [23:51] |
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MBS | dwon, alright, that will be ∞ BTC | [23:59] |
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