Forum logs for 06 Sep 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

assbot	[GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.7997 = 1.5994 BTC [+]	[00:01]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.7997 = 2.3991 BTC [+]	[00:01]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.7998 = 2.3994 BTC [+]	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	you can't even spell dissapoint	[00:04]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.7998 = 2.3994 BTC [+]	[00:04]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1035 = 0.207 BTC [-]	[00:06]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1035 = 1.035 BTC [-]	[00:07]
kakobrekla	evening gents	[00:07]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1035 BTC [-]	[00:08]
JWU_42	kakobrekla: hey	[00:08]
kakobrekla	how is it going JWU42	[00:09]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1035 = 1.035 BTC [-]	[00:10]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [+]	[00:15]
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mircea_popescu	!ticker gigamining	[00:18]
assbot	[GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.77] [Ask: 0.7997] [Spread: 0.0297] [Last: 0.7998] [24hVol: 114.31099603] [7dAvg: 0.82350475]	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	!ticker f.giga.etf	[00:19]
assbot	[MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00070427 / 0.00079311 / 0.00086378 (287116 shares, 227.72 BTC), 30day: 0.00064789 / 0.00095135 / 0.00115139 (9863737 shares, 9,383.94 BTC)	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	so under 8 now huh	[00:19]
Lyspooner	is there an asset or etf that represents a fund which purports hostage or extortion situations and pulls in a revenue stream from citizens wanting to help save fellow citizens?	[00:20]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.788 = 1.576 BTC [+]	[00:21]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1035 = 0.3105 BTC [-]	[00:28]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BMF] 13 @ 0.54999 = 7.1499 BTC [-]	[00:29]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BMF] 30 @ 0.54999 = 16.4997 BTC [-]	[00:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BMF] 7 @ 0.54999 = 3.8499 BTC [-]	[00:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 20 @ 0.15072854 = 3.0146 BTC [-]	[00:33]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.0001222 = 0.0006 BTC [-]	[00:33]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]	[00:35]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [-]	[00:36]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]	[00:39]
MrWubbles	time for you to go night night bitcoins	[00:40]
MrWubbles	ohh want site up?	[00:42]
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MrWubbles	ohh it's up	[00:42]
MrWubbles	and it's down again	[00:42]
MrWubbles	womp womp womp	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.128898 = 0.3867 BTC [+]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.128 = 0.64 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.12721 = 3.9435 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1272 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.12711 = 12.711 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.12710001 = 0.8897 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 85 @ 0.127 = 10.795 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1266 = 1.266 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.12501001 = 1.2501 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.12501001 = 5.0004 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.12501 = 25.002 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.125 = 6.25 BTC [-]	[00:42]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.09999 = 0.3 BTC [+]	[00:48]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 25 @ 0.09999 = 2.4998 BTC [+]	[00:50]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.168 BTC [+]	[00:52]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.12020001 = 0.2404 BTC [-]	[00:53]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.12020001 = 3.9666 BTC [-]	[00:53]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.1202 = 1.202 BTC [-]	[00:53]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.12010001 = 0.2402 BTC [-]	[00:53]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.12010001 = 2.402 BTC [-]	[00:53]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.12 = 12 BTC [-]	[00:53]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.115 = 1.725 BTC [-]	[01:00]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1149 BTC [-]	[01:01]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.11300001 = 0.226 BTC [-]	[01:04]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.11110001 = 0.2222 BTC [-]	[01:04]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.11110001 = 3.9996 BTC [-]	[01:04]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.11100001 = 0.222 BTC [-]	[01:04]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.11100001 = 1.11 BTC [-]	[01:04]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.1099 = 0.4396 BTC [-]	[01:06]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 2 @ 0.0001222 = 0.0002 BTC [-]	[01:06]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 1 @ 0.91 BTC [-]	[01:08]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.1049 = 0.8392 BTC [-]	[01:10]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 20 @ 0.149 = 2.98 BTC [-]	[01:11]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 106 @ 0.1049 = 11.1194 BTC [-]	[01:11]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 40 @ 0.10309 = 4.1236 BTC [-]	[01:11]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]	[01:12]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]	[01:12]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.627 BTC [-]	[01:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.104 = 0.728 BTC [-]	[01:15]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 268 @ 0.104 = 27.872 BTC [-]	[01:15]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 560 @ 0.105 = 58.8 BTC [+]	[01:15]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 101 @ 0.11 = 11.11 BTC [+]	[01:15]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.1039 = 1.2468 BTC [-]	[01:18]
assbot	[GLBSE] [JAH] 117 @ 0.149 = 17.433 BTC [+]	[01:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49511 @ 0.0003988 = 19.745 BTC [-]	[01:19]
assbot	[GLBSE] [PIMP] 31 @ 0.1399 = 4.3369 BTC [-]	[01:19]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.628 = 1.256 BTC [+]	[01:19]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NASTY] 5 @ 0.62879 = 3.144 BTC [+]	[01:19]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.10308 = 2.577 BTC [-]	[01:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4009 @ 0.00081659 = 3.2737 BTC [-]	[01:22]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BMF] 25 @ 0.54999 = 13.7498 BTC [-]	[01:22]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NASTY] 8 @ 0.63 = 5.04 BTC [+]	[01:23]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.635 = 1.27 BTC [+]	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell lyspooner never heard of one.	[01:23]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[01:23]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 980 @ 0.105 = 102.9 BTC [+]	[01:24]
BTC-Mining	Damn, ASICMINER went back near IPO price?	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	awww, but it was +50% yest!	[01:26]
BTC-Mining	Now it's +5%	[01:26]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 15 @ 0.10308 = 1.5462 BTC [-]	[01:27]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 17 @ 0.10306 = 1.752 BTC [-]	[01:27]
BTC-Mining	Looks like someone sold a huge lot	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	these low volume stocks, tsk tsk.	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	!ticker asicmining	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	!ticker asicminer	[01:27]
assbot	Invalid ticker.	[01:27]
assbot	[GLBSE:ASICMINER] [Bid: 0.105] [Ask: 0.11] [Spread: 0.005] [Last: 0.105] [24hVol: 433.80514183] [7dAvg: 0.12210553]	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	huge = 4xx btc yeah	[01:27]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.11 = 3.19 BTC [+]	[01:28]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]	[01:28]
rdponticelli	Yea, somebody just took a big dump	[01:28]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [+]	[01:28]
BTC-Mining	It's still only 15000k total value, so 4% is about 2.6%	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	im sorry, say wut ?	[01:29]
BTC-Mining	I mean 4xx BTC is about 2.6%	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	o, of the float ?	[01:30]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [-]	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	strangely total volume is 6k	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	people bought 9k worth off glbse or what ?	[01:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.11 = 0.33 BTC [+]	[01:32]
BTC-Mining	Yeah, you can trade directly with the issuer/others	[01:32]
BTC-Mining	Which doesn't appear in the volume	[01:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.11 = 0.33 BTC [+]	[01:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.11 = 0.77 BTC [+]	[01:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 260 @ 0.115 = 29.9 BTC [+]	[01:32]
BTC-Mining	Going back up	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	still has 500-1k to go to .1	[01:33]
BTC-Mining	I guess people would still like to get IPO prices	[01:33]
Diablo-D3	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4481752	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	such a fire hazard that thign	[01:35]
mircea_popescu	poliester on top of cardboard ? really ?	[01:35]
mircea_popescu	pour some gasoline in a corner.	[01:35]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.11 = 0.77 BTC [-]	[01:37]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.1051 = 3.9938 BTC [-]	[01:37]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.76378688 BTC [+]	[01:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3291 @ 0.00082122 = 2.7026 BTC [+]	[01:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 20 @ 0.15722689 = 3.1445 BTC [+]	[01:42]
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papaso	hi，i am coming	[01:47]
papaso	i want to buy call options	[01:49]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.11 = 0.44 BTC [+]	[01:50]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.09999 = 0.3 BTC [+]	[01:50]
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papaso	long Expiration，high strike	[01:50]
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papaso	i want to buy call options，can anyone help me how to buy？	[01:53]
BTC-Mining	Ask mircea_popescu, his MPEX exchange deals with options	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	yes papaso. what do you need ?	[01:55]
papaso	yes ，i want to buy call options	[01:55]
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mircea_popescu	ok. do you have a gpg identity ?	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	;;ident papaso	[01:56]
gribble	Nick 'papaso', with hostmask 'papaso!b7e13886@gateway/web/freenode/ip.183.225.56.134', is not identified.	[01:56]
papaso	i dont understand GPG，i email to you, you said we talk here	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	ah ok.	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	so , first of all you need to get gpg.	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	what system do you run ? windows ?	[01:57]
papaso	win xp	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	ok.	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	http://www.gpg4win.org/about.html	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	you need that.	[01:58]
papaso	2.10 or 2.11?	[01:59]
mircea_popescu	doesn't really matter.	[02:00]
papaso	ok	[02:00]
papaso	anothers ques,i can not open bitoption.org, you know why?	[02:01]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1035 = 1.035 BTC [+]	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	i have no ideea.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	A market where traded were options to buy and sell bitcoins at future points in time. The service has been suspended since September 2011.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	seems it's been dead a long time.	[02:02]
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papaso	ok i download it	[02:08]
papaso	pls show me the next how to do	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	well, did you install it ?	[02:09]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.003393 = 0.0611 BTC [+]	[02:10]
papaso	install already	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	ok. open up command prompt and say	[02:11]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003393 BTC [+]	[02:11]
mircea_popescu	gpg --gen-key	[02:11]
papaso	do you want to create a back up copy?	[02:13]
papaso	or do it later?	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	i'm sorry ?	[02:13]
papaso	gen key asked	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	sure, make a backup. save it somewhere safe.	[02:13]
papaso	then GPG want me to type passphrase and quality	[02:15]
mircea_popescu	so pick a STRONG passphrase	[02:15]
mircea_popescu	minimum 12 chars, letters, numbers, symbols.	[02:15]
mircea_popescu	and pick 4096 bit	[02:15]
papaso	more then 13?	[02:15]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1035 = 1.035 BTC [+]	[02:15]
papaso	what means quality?	[02:16]
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mircea_popescu	13 works. the longer the better, but don't forget it.	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	if you do you're pretty much screwed.	[02:16]
papaso	ok i done	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	don't use any words in it either. ok.	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	gpg --armor --output pubkey.txt --export 'Your Name'	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	it will give you some text. you email me that.	[02:17]
papaso	then save?	[02:18]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[02:18]
mircea_popescu	you can get it again any time the same way.	[02:18]
papaso	then i open GPG again	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	did you email me your key ?	[02:20]
papaso	in brief lot of information	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[02:21]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1199 = 0.2398 BTC [+]	[02:21]
papaso	i need to tell you the key id?	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	no.	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	you need to go	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	gpg --armor --output pubkey.txt --export 'Your Name'	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	it will give you some text.	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	you need to email me that text.	[02:22]
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papaso	where is the armor?	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	where is the armor ?!	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	what do you mean ?	[02:24]
papaso	you said i must go to gpg --armor --output pubkey.txt --export 'Your Name'	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	you just put that in command prompt	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	obviously replace your name with... your name. whatever you entered when you made the key.	[02:25]
rdponticelli	mircea_popescu: you need a step by step tutorial	[02:26]
rdponticelli	And just send that to ppl	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	rdponticelli http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#6 it's there.	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	problem is, people don't even have gpg. what am i to do ?	[02:26]
rdponticelli	A tutorial for ppl who don't have gpg	[02:27]
rdponticelli	I know the other	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	might be an ideea, this.	[02:27]
rdponticelli	:)	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	a well, my faq will grow to epic proportions, it will pass 250kb, be even larger than nefario's pages.	[02:27]
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rdponticelli	And don't forget to put something like: do it on a clean machine	[02:28]
assbot	[GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 0.915 BTC [-]	[02:28]
assbot	[GLBSE] [JTME] 9 @ 0.8 = 7.2 BTC [-]	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[02:28]
rdponticelli	If you're using that mocosoft crap chances are that your keys won't be safe anyway...	[02:28]
rdponticelli	And all that jazz	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	so i should put an os comparison char too ?	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	i mean... it has to end somewhere, this faq	[02:29]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile, i have no email. papaso you ok in there ?	[02:29]
rdponticelli	Yeah, ponder your resources	[02:29]
rdponticelli	But is more waste of resources tell step by step to every customer	[02:30]
papaso	i am in the key manager web, and i dont know how to do next	[02:30]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1199 = 2.398 BTC [+]	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	rdponticelli i've run it for months never quite had the problem. people manage in general.	[02:30]
rdponticelli	Ok	[02:30]
assbot	[GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 3 @ 1.559 = 4.677 BTC [-]	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	papaso i have no idea what a key manager web is.	[02:30]
rdponticelli	Ok it was just and idea :)	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	what you need to do is, open command prompt, put the string i gave you in there, and paste the result into an email.	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	if you do what you want to do rather than what i tell you to do we're just wasting our time here.	[02:31]
papaso	when you open GPA, you will see the key manager	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	mkay, well this has gone for long enough i guess.	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	papaso http://www.madboa.com/geek/gpg-quickstart/ here's the manual.	[02:32]
mircea_popescu	please send me your public key.	[02:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.1199 = 1.9184 BTC [+]	[02:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.12 = 2.28 BTC [+]	[02:32]
mircea_popescu	that's pretty much it.	[02:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.08889 BTC [-]	[02:33]
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assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 14709 @ 0.00081874 = 12.0428 BTC [-]	[02:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2300 @ 0.00082133 = 1.8891 BTC [+]	[02:34]
papaso	key id?	[02:34]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.12 = 4.2 BTC [+]	[02:35]
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mircea_popescu	you find your keyid by saying gpg --list-keys	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	mpex keyid is F1B69921	[02:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16316 @ 0.00040019 = 6.5295 BTC [+]	[02:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23684 @ 0.0004007 = 9.4902 BTC [+]	[02:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.64860632 BTC [+]	[02:40]
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papaso	do you speak chinese?	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	sadly i don't.	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	however, markac does,	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	try	[02:43]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 9 @ 0.09999 = 0.8999 BTC [+]	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	.tr 梵天	[02:43]
markac	mircea_popescu: "Brahma" (zh-CN to en, translate.google.com)	[02:43]
papaso	i think i need stup by stup HOWTO	[02:44]
papaso	boze i first here GPA	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	read up the conversation, it's there.	[02:45]
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markac	usagi: "My name is rabbit ." (ja to en, translate.google.com)	[02:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9058 @ 0.00039902 = 3.6143 BTC [-]	[02:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8010 @ 0.00039875 = 3.194 BTC [-]	[02:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2032 @ 0.00039789 = 0.8085 BTC [-]	[02:52]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+]	[02:52]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.12 = 3.96 BTC [+]	[02:52]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.1035 = 0.414 BTC [+]	[02:53]
papaso	AGAIN,first "new key" your name: papaso then email: 23@qq.com then create back up copy then enter passphrase then re-enter ,then secret-key-5122FEE3.asc, pls show me howto.....	[02:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1668 @ 0.00039789 = 0.6637 BTC [-]	[02:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19484 @ 0.00039784 = 7.7515 BTC [-]	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	gpg --armor --output pubkey.txt --export '5122FEE3'	[02:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4000 @ 0.00083036 = 3.3214 BTC [+]	[02:59]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.1199 = 3.9567 BTC [-]	[03:01]
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papaso	name:secret-key-54296214.asc then i change to: gpg --armor --output pubkey.txt --export 'papaso' then save in folder: desktop then push save?	[03:05]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.12 = 3.96 BTC [+]	[03:10]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.09999 = 0.9999 BTC [+]	[03:10]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.099999 = 0.2 BTC [+]	[03:10]
mircea_popescu	... maybe ?	[03:11]
mircea_popescu	are you renaming a file ?	[03:12]
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papaso	let me study chinese HOWTO	[03:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00039784 = 17.7437 BTC [-]	[03:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10176 @ 0.00039784 = 4.0484 BTC [-]	[03:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9124 @ 0.00039784 = 3.6299 BTC [-]	[03:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.0003986 = 13.672 BTC [+]	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	and faq update, if anyone's curious.	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html	[03:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.62 = 2.48 BTC [+]	[03:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 30 @ 0.635 = 19.05 BTC [+]	[03:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.645 = 1.935 BTC [+]	[03:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.648 BTC [+]	[03:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.6495 = 2.598 BTC [+]	[03:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 44 @ 0.65 = 28.6 BTC [+]	[03:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15506 @ 0.0003986 = 6.1807 BTC [+]	[03:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28428 @ 0.0004007 = 11.3911 BTC [+]	[03:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3866 @ 0.00040084 = 1.5496 BTC [+]	[03:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GSDPT] 11732 @ 0.003393 = 39.8067 BTC [+]	[03:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GSDPT] 7877 @ 0.0034 = 26.7818 BTC [+]	[03:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10391 @ 0.0034 = 35.3294 BTC [+]	[03:32]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4609 @ 0.0034 = 15.6706 BTC [+]	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	aaaand it's gone	[03:34]
kakobrekla	hm?	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	i saw the large buys, i checked the mkt depth, noticed 4.6k outstandign	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	and right then they sold.	[03:36]
smickles	!ticker s.dice	[03:39]
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smickles	!ticker gsdpt	[03:39]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00327279 / 0.0034 (3537514 shares, 11,577.55 BTC)	[03:39]
assbot	[GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0032] [Ask: 0.0034] [Spread: 0.0002] [Last: 0.0034] [24hVol: 129.557254] [7dAvg: 0.00327343]	[03:39]
smickles	oh, i've been outwitted by time :(	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	huh ?	[03:39]
mod6	Trying to be part of a cryptocurrency without knowing how to use gpg is like trying to be part of the 60s without knowing how to use a bong.	[03:40]
mod6	lol	[03:40]
smickles	i should've ran the ticker comparison before 8pm eastern us	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	mod6 ain't that the truth!	[03:40]
mod6	:D	[03:40]
smickles	I used to prefer hookas myself	[03:41]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.0001222 = 0.0006 BTC [-]	[03:41]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 2 @ 0.0001222 = 0.0002 BTC [-]	[03:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.113003 = 3.7291 BTC [-]	[03:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1301 @ 0.00083036 = 1.0803 BTC [+]	[03:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7847 @ 0.00039784 = 3.1219 BTC [-]	[03:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19753 @ 0.00039782 = 7.8581 BTC [-]	[03:44]
mircea_popescu	lol well... as a general point	[03:47]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell deadterra you prolly want to issue more gsdpt	[03:48]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[03:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35847 @ 0.00039782 = 14.2607 BTC [-]	[03:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5553 @ 0.00039763 = 2.208 BTC [-]	[03:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9647 @ 0.00039763 = 3.8359 BTC [-]	[03:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9953 @ 0.00039754 = 3.9567 BTC [-]	[03:53]
BTC-Mining	5 BTC freeroll on sealswithclubs starting in 1 hour and a half by the way... 164 players so far, a few places left.	[03:56]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 75 @ 0.9998 = 74.985 BTC [-]	[03:57]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.12 = 3.96 BTC [+]	[03:58]
BTC-Mining	Looks like people are buying BTC-MINING	[03:58]
smickles	BTC-Mining: do you need chips to play in that?	[03:59]
BTC-Mining	No, it's a freeroll...	[03:59]
BTC-Mining	Almost ALL poker websites in existence conducts regular freerolls.	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 150 @ 0.00101467 = 0.1522 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 9850 @ 0.001001 = 9.8599 BTC [-]	[04:00]
BTC-Mining	Usually for ~ 50 - 100 USD	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 329 @ 0.0012103 = 0.3982 BTC [+]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 10000 @ 0.0010005 = 10.005 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 10000 @ 0.0010003 = 10.003 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.001001 = 10.01 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 10000 @ 0.0010005 = 10.005 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.12 = 2.04 BTC [+]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 10000 @ 0.0010003 = 10.003 BTC [-]	[04:00]
smickles	well, i'll join in then	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.001001 = 10.01 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 10000 @ 0.0010005 = 10.005 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 10000 @ 0.0010003 = 10.003 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 10000 @ 0.0010003 = 10.003 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 10000 @ 0.0010005 = 10.005 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.001001 = 10.01 BTC [-]	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	weren;t they doing those hourly ?	[04:01]
BTC-Mining	No, not seals, they're too small. Doing that weekly.	[04:01]
BTC-Mining	They do a 0.05 BTC freeroll hourly tho, with usually 10 people in it.	[04:01]
BTC-Mining	Only some large poker networks do daily/multiple time a day freerolls.	[04:02]
smickles	BTC-Mining: can you tell me how long i should expect it to last if i don't suck ass tonight?	[04:03]
BTC-Mining	Eh, no idea.	[04:04]
BTC-Mining	Can go for a few hours.	[04:04]
BTC-Mining	There's always breaks tho	[04:05]
BTC-Mining	and of course the minimum blind go up every few minute to force the game to go end up faster.	[04:06]
smickles	BTC-Mining: are you playing?	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	well smickles you'd have 1: 200 odds to win 50 bux	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	so it'd be mostly for hte fun	[04:07]
BTC-Mining	Yup	[04:07]
smickles	BTC-Mining: well, tell me if we hit the same table :)	[04:07]
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BTC-Mining	There's actually 17 position paids	[04:08]
smickles	(i assume you nick is different there)	[04:08]
BTC-Mining	and 116 entrants	[04:08]
BTC-Mining	25.00%/15.00%/10.00%/7.50%/4 x 5%/9 x 2.5%	[04:09]
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smickles	mircea_popescu: so you'll bet me 200 btc agianst my one that i won't win it?	[04:09]
smickles	:D	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	i'll bet 2 btc against your .01	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	let's not drive me bankrupt just yet.	[04:09]
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BTC-Mining	mircea: deal from here...	[04:09]
BTC-Mining	If you want to take it.	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	you betting that you don't win or that he doesn't win BTC-Mining ?	[04:10]
BTC-Mining	No, betting for myself winning	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	i'll want .02 btc from you.	[04:10]
BTC-Mining	hmm, okay then	[04:10]
smickles	heh, i'll take the bet mircea_popescu.	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	lol ok. how do we verify this ?	[04:10]
smickles	you get .01 if i lose, i get 2 if i win.	[04:11]
smickles	um	[04:11]
BTC-Mining	You can check the tournament results	[04:11]
kakobrekla	MNW got all over you guys.	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining ok, but what do you play as ?	[04:11]
smickles	BTC-Mining: is the winner announced somehow?	[04:11]
BTC-Mining	Namjies	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	and you're smickles, smickles ?	[04:11]
smickles	yup	[04:11]
smickles	same nick	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	kays.	[04:12]
BTC-Mining	You can view the list of final position for the tournament from the tournament's lobby	[04:12]
BTC-Mining	I believe	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	im too lazy but i trust you'll be keeping each other honest lol	[04:12]
BTC-Mining	Excellent	[04:13]
smickles	i'll screenshoot it :D	[04:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.113003 = 3.7291 BTC [-]	[04:13]
smickles	heh, if i had a few hundered spare gig, i'd record my play	[04:14]
BTC-Mining	I don't think I've ever been first in a tournament yet... Although I'm used to larger pools of players.	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	well good luck to both of ya.	[04:15]
smickles	:D	[04:15]
*	mircea_popescu puts mpex logos on the ppl's helmets	[04:15]
smickles	heh, i suppose it's sorta a sponsorship	[04:15]
BTC-Mining	Well first place is 25%, or 1.25 BTC. If you get first, you get an extra 2 BTC from mircea.	[04:17]
BTC-Mining	But by the end of a tournament, you end up with good players. Gets harder and harder	[04:17]
BTC-Mining	Oh, I have an mpex cap for the tournament?	[04:18]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.117 = 0.234 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
BTC-Mining	.	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
kakobrekla	is something stuck	[04:19]
BTC-Mining	.	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
BTC-Mining	.	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
smickles	mrchhre?	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.084 = 0.252 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:20]
kakobrekla	pajka combo breaker	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1171 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102096 = 10.2096 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 2 @ 0.64514775 = 1.2903 BTC [-]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 10000 @ 0.00102183 = 10.2183 BTC [+]	[04:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00040041 = 0.1602 BTC [+]	[04:21]
BTC-Mining	Well, some people like certified deposits	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining what you mean cap ?	[04:22]
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BTC-Mining	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	o o o yes hehe, a cap!	[04:23]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.12 = 3.96 BTC [+]	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	hm, does anyone make btc aparel ?	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	as in, aparel you pay in btc	[04:24]
jcpham	i can spraypaint something for you	[04:24]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.11999999 BTC [-]	[04:24]
jcpham	designer	[04:24]
jcpham	$1000	[04:24]
BTC-Mining	(Pssst! Sounds like a pretty bad deal... You should take it.)	[04:25]
jcpham	dude i'm trying to let you guys in on the ground floor	[04:25]
jcpham	designer bitcoin apparel	[04:26]
jcpham	pink kicks with gold coins on them	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:26]
jcpham	romney's tax return airbrushed on a polo in graffiti	[04:26]
jcpham	this shit is hot	[04:26]
BTC-Mining	Hmm, an exclusive fashion milieu, quite the interesting offer indeed.	[04:26]
jcpham	cascius coin dildos	[04:27]
jcpham	who needs a vault	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	when you got kegels ?	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	Sweden drops Assange rape charge	[04:28]
assbot	[GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.119 = 0.595 BTC [+]	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	lmao a loser is sweden.	[04:28]
assbot	[GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.11949 = 0.3585 BTC [+]	[04:28]
assbot	[GLBSE] [YABMC] 50 @ 0.1195 = 5.975 BTC [+]	[04:28]
BTC-Mining	Hey Diablo-D3	[04:28]
jcpham	so if you are popular enough rape is ok in sweden?	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	he didn't rape anybody.	[04:28]
jcpham	or unpopular enough	[04:28]
jcpham	i'm sorry assange doesn't qualify as world news	[04:28]
BTC-Mining	Maybe there was simply a lack of proof plus getting assange was too hard, so dropped charges... costs money to work on the case you know...	[04:29]
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BTC-Mining	Getting proof tends to be hard in case of rape.	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	maybe it was just a case of rogue state trying to abuse the process of law to kidnap foreign nationals	[04:29]
jcpham	isn't illegal in spain to walk into a car dealer with 3000 euros and ppurchase a vehicle	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	that's what my 2 bitcents is on anyway	[04:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15534 @ 0.00040084 = 6.2266 BTC [+]	[04:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33366 @ 0.00040148 = 13.3958 BTC [+]	[04:30]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [JTME] 2 @ 0.899 = 1.798 BTC [+]	[04:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [JTME] 4 @ 0.9 = 3.6 BTC [+]	[04:31]
smickles	< mircea_popescu> maybe it was just a case of rogue state trying to abuse the process of law to kidnap foreign nationals<<< sounds like the 'merican way	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	myea.	[04:31]
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jcpham	yes america runs the world	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	lol. get off.	[04:31]
jcpham	no seriously	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	right.	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	most 2yos think they run the world too.	[04:32]
jcpham	i've been to the world, i know.	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	lol srsly ?	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	how's the world's apartment like ?	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	does it have ac ?	[04:32]
jcpham	no running water	[04:32]
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mircea_popescu	so why ruin it.	[04:33]
jcpham	no sewage, only septic	[04:33]
jcpham	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/3/the-real-fiscal-cliff/	[04:34]
jcpham	doomand gloom	[04:35]
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BTC-Mining	http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/world-accordign-to-USA.jpg	[04:36]
jcpham	looks correct	[04:36]
kakobrekla	;;ticker	[04:36]
gribble	Best bid: 10.903, Best ask: 10.9999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09690, Last trade: 10.91592, 24 hour volume: 64318, 24 hour low: 10.261, 24 hour high: 11.17	[04:36]
BTC-Mining	This one is a bit outdated... looks like its from the cold war	[04:37]
BTC-Mining	http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oUc6WpOAwto/SP9fNq6zuOI/AAAAAAAABOs/t2o45sOf_sw/s1600/the_world_according_to_america.gif	[04:37]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.1130002 = 3.729 BTC [-]	[04:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16434 @ 0.00040148 = 6.5979 BTC [+]	[04:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5078 @ 0.00040313 = 2.0471 BTC [+]	[04:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8488 @ 0.00040475 = 3.4355 BTC [+]	[04:39]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.12 = 3.6 BTC [+]	[04:40]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 47 @ 1 = 47 BTC [+]	[04:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00040041 = 12.8932 BTC [-]	[04:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 10000 @ 0.00100595 = 10.0595 BTC [+]	[04:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 10000 @ 0.00100893 = 10.0893 BTC [+]	[04:43]
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mircea_popescu	is something stuck <<< i love this line	[04:49]
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mircea_popescu	i guess the power of lisp is a scary thing to behold. just you wait till i grow a little and start doing 100s of trades a minute	[04:49]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.12 = 3.96 BTC [+]	[04:50]
BTC-Mining	The thing is, it was like tons of 10 BTC trades, all in the same amount at the same price...	[04:50]
BTC-Mining	Why weren't they all filled in one go?	[04:50]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.113 = 2.26 BTC [-]	[04:52]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.112 = 0.448 BTC [-]	[04:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21651 @ 0.00040475 = 8.7632 BTC [+]	[04:52]
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mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining what do you mean "in one go" ?	[04:53]
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assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 24812 @ 0.00100757 = 24.9998 BTC [-]	[05:00]
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papaso	O.BTCUSD.C200N what is the strick price usd20 or usd200?	[05:00]
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mircea_popescu	usd 20	[05:02]
papaso	if i want to buy 1 btc, i should pay USD0.089 or 0.089BTC?	[05:04]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.103498 BTC [-]	[05:06]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.11000001 = 3.63 BTC [-]	[05:06]
smickles	papaso: it's priced in btc	[05:06]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.114 = 0.342 BTC [+]	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	papaso each option stands for 1 btc and is priced in btc.	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	O.BTCUSD.C200N is 0.00608060 ask and 0.14836642 buy	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	this means it costs you	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[05:08]
gribble	Best bid: 10.94, Best ask: 10.94992, Bid-ask spread: 0.00992, Last trade: 10.931, 24 hour volume: 69377, 24 hour low: 10.261, 24 hour high: 11.17	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	.py 10.931 * 0.00608060	[05:09]
markac	0.0664670386	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	it costs you about 6.6 cents.	[05:09]
papaso	means the price is not usd it is btc?	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[05:09]
papaso	good	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	all mpex is btc-only. no usd anywhere.	[05:09]
papaso	if i buy there must have another trader as sell side	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	there's the mpoe bot which takes your other side.	[05:10]
papaso	O.BTCUSD.C200N the Expiration is?	[05:12]
papaso	it is europen-option or us-option?	[05:12]
assbot	[GLBSE] [M.ETF] 2 @ 0.125 = 0.25 BTC [+]	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	us.	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	you can sell it at any time anyway, the bot quotes.	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	all T expire last Friday of current month (28th). all N expire last Friday of next month (oct 26th)	[05:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.114 BTC [+]	[05:14]
papaso	O.BTCUSD.C200N is this mouth or next mouth	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	next month.	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	cause of N at the end	[05:14]
papaso	next mouth 28th?	[05:15]
papaso	do you have dec 28 Contract	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	next month 26th.	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	and no, no december. only current and next month.	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	december will be N starting on the 27th of october.	[05:16]
papaso	OK， i wish if the volme is high, people can buy year contract	[05:17]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.11999 = 0.6 BTC [+]	[05:17]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.12 = 3.36 BTC [+]	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	not a problem of volume as much as volatility.	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	btc can and has dropped and gained 50-60% in a few days.	[05:18]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.11998999 = 2.3998 BTC [-]	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	this precludes any LEAPs or such.	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	last month volume was ~100k contracts, you can look it up in the monthly report http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-rezultate-august-2012/#comment-88317	[05:20]
assbot	[GLBSE] [MMM] 7 @ 1 = 7 BTC [+]	[05:21]
assbot	[GLBSE] [MMM] 6 @ 1 = 6 BTC [+]	[05:22]
BTC-Mining	Freeroll starting in 10 minutes. Ready smickles?	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	im off to bed. gl boyz	[05:22]
BTC-Mining	Night there	[05:23]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[17:56]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: GLBSE https://glbse.com \|\| MPEx http://polimedia.us/mpex \|\| CST https://cryptostocks.com \|\| ICBIT https://icbit.se \|\| list bot commands: !help \|\| Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades \|\| a biased message: http://smpake.com/ \|\| Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RMjqah	[17:56]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Sat Aug 25 15:12:46 2012	[17:56]
Enky	*manage	[17:57]
mircea_popescu	sooo, how's the poker boys ? BTC-Mining ? smickles ?	[17:57]
kakobrekla	well thats up to you, this is made to make btc	[17:57]
kakobrekla	not usd	[17:57]
kakobrekla	directly	[17:57]
BTC-Mining	mircea_popescu, you would be the one to be able to answer this...	[17:57]
BTC-Mining	[10:53] smickles, kako is saying you could have a BTC balance, and have a USD/EUR position for it, so if you lose 10% on the position, you lose 10% oF the BTC used for the position. AND COMPLETLY IGNORE BTC PRICE FLUCTUATION DURING THAT TIME. That's what I understood.	[17:58]
BTC-Mining	[10:53] volatility of eur/usd is 1/50 maybe of btc/usd:)	[17:58]
BTC-Mining	[10:53] thats why you have leverages	[17:58]
BTC-Mining	[10:54] BTC-Mining: CORRECT	[17:58]
BTC-Mining	How can that work?	[17:58]
Enky	that's the point	[17:58]
Enky	"AND COMPLETLY IGNORE BTC PRICE FLUCTUATION DURING THAT TIME"	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining well part of your btc would be in options.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	then if price fluctuates you make back btc so that your usd value stays fixed.	[17:59]
BTC-Mining	So there must be hedging	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	well yes.	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/btcf/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10 i strongly recomend this thread	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	it has 3-4 good case studies well documented.	[17:59]
BTC-Mining	That's also what my understanding of the forex was.	[18:00]
BTC-Mining	But hedging has a cost...	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	everything has a cost.	[18:00]
BTC-Mining	Kako, could you verify that with your forex contact?	[18:01]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]	[18:01]
Enky	maybe that forex contact doesnt imagine how much wild are swings at mtgox:)	[18:01]
BTC-Mining	So he can confirm you or something?	[18:01]
BTC-Mining	I think that might be the problem, Enky	[18:01]
kakobrekla	i told you how your funds are backed	[18:01]
Enky	he think, btc is a currency , so not much volatile...	[18:02]
Enky	big mistakes:)	[18:02]
BTC-Mining	kako, BTC price fluctuations will matter...	[18:02]
kakobrekla	i think what you really need to worry	[18:03]
BTC-Mining	there's no way it wouldn't if it's the currency backing the position.	[18:03]
kakobrekla	if there is enough btc to cover your gains	[18:03]
kakobrekla	to which the answer is: yes	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	what are you folks discussing anyway ?	[18:03]
kakobrekla	Enky see pm about the demo	[18:04]
BTC-Mining	kakobrekla wants to make a BTC > fiat/fiat positions service with BTC backing the position. BUT, of course, BTC price fluctuation doesn't need hedging or doesn't matter at all in this.	[18:04]
BTC-Mining	so basically, allow you to trade on a forex platform by keeping your BTC to back your positions.	[18:05]
BTC-Mining	But somehow BTC/fiat value doesn't matter at all in this	[18:05]
Enky	you can mitigate the problem limiting your operativity to intraday operations, for example, another idea	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	hm. well that could be risky.	[18:06]
BTC-Mining	for Kako, yes?	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	if anyone cares, an attempt at btc / difficulty option nearly took a large player out.	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	last month.	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	significant losses. and when i say "large player" i mean 10's of k's.	[18:07]
BTC-Mining	I kept saying he needs to hedge or he might make big losses (or gains)	[18:07]
BTC-Mining	depending on bitcoin price fluctuations and if the users make gains or losses.	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining if he imediately trades (ie, customer buys btc on platform, platform buys btc on mtgox, and vice-versa) and the sums are small enough it should be ok	[18:07]
BTC-Mining	no	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	as the sums grow i imagine it'd end up as bitcoinica.	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	ie, making a loss each month.	[18:08]
BTC-Mining	that's no what he's saying	[18:08]
BTC-Mining	he's saying that you could put a 1 BTC balane he'd keep on his side.	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	well i kinda fell in the middle of a discussion i dunno.	[18:08]
BTC-Mining	and allow you to take a USD/EUR short/long position on a forex platform using that BTC.	[18:09]
BTC-Mining	and suppose you use 1:1 leverage, and make 10% loss/gain, you make 10% loss/gain on your BTC.	[18:09]
BTC-Mining	AND, BTC/FIAT price WOULDN'T matter AT ALL in this, somehow.	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	this doesn't sound like the whole story.	[18:10]
smickles	mircea_popescu: not suprising about the btc/diff option, the bot didn't seem to understand the relationship between btc/usd price rising and diff rising	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	smickles funny thing is, it had done ok the first coupla months.	[18:11]
BTC-Mining	mircea, it is the whole story	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	very tracherous market, easy enough to gain a false sense of confidence.	[18:11]
smickles	mircea_popescu: in hindsight, the first few months were like the eye of a huricane	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	i guess lol	[18:12]
BTC-Mining	and to me it makes absolutly zero sense	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining well that's why i say can't be the whole story.	[18:12]
BTC-Mining	but the thing is, it is!	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	lol how do you know that ?	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	and anyway! let's not deviate from the main topic! who won the poker tourney ?	[18:13]
BTC-Mining	I was there since the start	[18:13]
BTC-Mining	Not me or smickles ;)	[18:13]
BTC-Mining	give the addy	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	1GG36DGeSYrZULtRTRoZwqMSupKtLeBjjF <<< donations accepted.	[18:13]
*	Diablo-D3 ponders	[18:14]
Diablo-D3	I wonder if a chick has ever said "dick licking good"	[18:14]
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BTC-Mining	..........	[18:14]
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mircea_popescu	geee, i made money while sleeping!	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	and yes Diablo-D3, a chick has.	[18:15]
BTC-Mining	but seriously Kakobrekla, I suggest you talk that again with your contact, because something seems to be very awry and amiss in those statements.	[18:16]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.91 BTC [+]	[18:16]
BTC-Mining	Would carry a huge risk for you depending on BTC price fluctuations.	[18:16]
Diablo-D3	zomg	[18:16]
Diablo-D3	another pirate?1	[18:16]
BTC-Mining	No	[18:17]
BTC-Mining	This:	[18:17]
BTC-Mining	[10:53] smickles, kako is saying you could have a BTC balance, and have a USD/EUR position for it, so if you lose 10% on the position, you lose 10% oF the BTC used for the position. AND COMPLETLY IGNORE BTC PRICE FLUCTUATION DURING THAT TIME. That's what I understood.	[18:17]
BTC-Mining	[10:53] volatility of eur/usd is 1/50 maybe of btc/usd:)	[18:17]
BTC-Mining	[10:53] thats why you have leverages	[18:17]
BTC-Mining	[10:54] BTC-Mining: CORRECT	[18:17]
BTC-Mining	If someone makes a loss on his position (fiat loss) and BTC devalues/crash to like close to 0, guess who absorbs the large fiat loss?	[18:18]
Diablo-D3	the... investor?	[18:18]
BTC-Mining	No, if the position loses 10%, the forex trader loses 10% in bitcoin backing it at time of getting the position.	[18:19]
BTC-Mining	That seems to be what Kako is saying.	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	Enky> volatility of eur/usd is 1/50 maybe of btc/usd: <<< more than that.	[18:19]
Diablo-D3	but thats not really true	[18:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 16600 @ 0.00085667 = 14.2207 BTC [-]	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	btc/usd went -50% then +40% in 4 days.	[18:20]
Diablo-D3	because thats not how forex work	[18:20]
BTC-Mining	That's what I'm trying to tell him x(	[18:20]
BTC-Mining	Huge risks for him.	[18:20]
BTC-Mining	Especially with 1:1000 leverage to top it.	[18:20]
Diablo-D3	I mean, mtgox is a forex	[18:20]
BTC-Mining	Indeed.	[18:20]
Diablo-D3	btw, you cant hedge btc/usd valuations owning paper	[18:21]
Diablo-D3	you have to own the real thing	[18:21]
Diablo-D3	same goes for those people who buy GLD on wall street	[18:21]
Diablo-D3	you want real gold in a vault, not GLD	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	real gold is expensive to maintain.	[18:22]
rg	you need a jew to maintain your gold	[18:22]
rg	its in thier blood	[18:22]
Diablo-D3	rg: basically.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:22]
rg	im dead serious..	[18:22]
Diablo-D3	Im not even going to claim thats racist	[18:22]
Diablo-D3	its 100% true	[18:22]
rg	all jewelry/gold places around here	[18:22]
rg	are jewish owned	[18:22]
Diablo-D3	you need three jews in your life	[18:22]
Diablo-D3	a doctor, a lawyer, and an accountant	[18:22]
smickles	oh yeah mircea_popescu did you get my later tell?	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	no, actually, teeny jew chicks are great fucks.	[18:22]
rg	jewish doctor?	[18:22]
rg	meh	[18:22]
rg	indian doctor	[18:22]
smickles	where should i send that .01 btc?	[18:23]
rg	more likely	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	smickles ^^	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	1GG36DGeSYrZULtRTRoZwqMSupKtLeBjjF <<< donations accepted.	[18:23]
smickles	heh, sending soon then :)	[18:23]
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mircea_popescu	i see a .01 but not a .02. BTC-Mining! whar is my dough! kneecaps!	[18:24]
Diablo-D3	man	[18:25]
Diablo-D3	I should watc the clinton speech again	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	aha! ty.	[18:25]
BTC-Mining	See, just wait a little for to show up =/	[18:26]
BTC-Mining	I sent it like 5 minutes ago	[18:26]
rg	i would vote for clinton	[18:26]
rg	if he could run again	[18:26]
Diablo-D3	vote for obama then	[18:27]
rg	no	[18:27]
Diablo-D3	its clinton now available for black	[18:27]
rg	i dont like obama	[18:27]
blazing	what about bush	[18:29]
blazing	did u forget bush	[18:29]
rg	i hate gwb	[18:29]
rg	but if i was president	[18:29]
rg	id robably be likle him	[18:29]
Diablo-D3	dude	[18:29]
Diablo-D3	if I was president	[18:29]
Diablo-D3	first thing I do	[18:29]
Diablo-D3	write everyone a $25k check.	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining :p	[18:30]
Diablo-D3	under the strict orders they pay off anybody they owe first	[18:30]
Diablo-D3	whatever is left they can spend	[18:30]
blazing	bush is a party animal	[18:30]
copumpkin	Diablo-D3: why stop there?	[18:30]
copumpkin	I want $2.5M	[18:30]
Diablo-D3	and then watch the banks twist and spin as they cant claim they're not solvent	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	ahaha Diablo-D3 is evil.	[18:30]
Diablo-D3	since half their debt just evaporated	[18:30]
Diablo-D3	man, that'd collapse every major bank	[18:31]
Diablo-D3	it'd be hillarious	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	well it wouldn't be hilarious if YOU were president.	[18:31]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: yes it would	[18:31]
Diablo-D3	I wouldnt have to bail them out	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	go down in history as "the guy who destroyed the banks" ? what are you jefferson ?	[18:31]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I said major	[18:31]
Diablo-D3	all the minor banks are healthy by any metric	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	you know minors are illegal in most states.	[18:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00040102 = 1.0828 BTC [+]	[18:32]
Diablo-D3	I said miner	[18:32]
Diablo-D3	banks for the mining industry	[18:32]
BTC-Mining	Wait what!?	[18:32]
*	Diablo-D3 snickers	[18:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1209 = 2.418 BTC [+]	[18:36]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.08 = 1.2 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.0797632 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.0795672 = 0.1591 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.079456 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.079392 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.07921921 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.0701 = 3.505 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.064 = 1.28 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.061 = 0.61 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.06 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.05601337 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 100 @ 0.051 = 5.1 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.05050505 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 100 @ 0.05010001 = 5.01 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.0501 = 2.505 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 120 @ 0.05 = 6 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.04040404 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.04 BTC [-]	[18:38]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 23 @ 0.04 = 0.92 BTC [-]	[18:38]
gabbynot	damn	[18:38]
BTC-Mining	TYGRR.BOND-P is reaching acceptable valuation (0)	[18:39]
Diablo-D3	heee	[18:39]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10349954 BTC [-]	[18:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.78011 = 1.5602 BTC [+]	[18:43]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.7801 = 3.9005 BTC [-]	[18:43]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [-]	[18:43]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]	[18:43]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.74521 = 2.9808 BTC [-]	[18:43]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 18 @ 0.7452 = 13.4136 BTC [-]	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	i wonder how many speculators had bought it at .1	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	because "who knows".	[18:45]
BTC-Mining	Many, just like previously many were buying at 0.3 - 0.7	[18:46]
BTC-Mining	Just keeps going down	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	a well, they say no lesson is worth anything unless you have a missing eye to show for it.	[18:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 39784 @ 0.00100543 = 40 BTC [-]	[18:50]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.1209 = 1.5717 BTC [+]	[18:52]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.121 = 3.751 BTC [+]	[18:52]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.122 = 6.588 BTC [+]	[18:52]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: lawls	[18:53]
Diablo-D3	EskimoBob has like four missing eyes	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	o, he learned something yet ?	[18:54]
Diablo-D3	yeah, he now thinks I ran off with the money	[18:54]
Diablo-D3	and bought a house in the Caymans	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	im pretty sure the doods that traded stocks with you are the ones with the house in the caymans	[18:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6300 @ 0.00086667 = 5.46 BTC [+]	[18:55]
Diablo-D3	nope	[18:55]
Enky	btc mining you there?	[18:55]
kakobrekla	BTC-Mining ping	[18:56]
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Enky	ping pong...	[18:56]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10349954 = 0.3105 BTC [-]	[18:56]
kakobrekla	hes away for about 10min	[18:56]
Enky	aniway i'm a fucking dumb kako:)	[18:57]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: see, what he doesnt get is Im playing the long game	[18:57]
Enky	15 years ago i would have understood on the fly not after 3 hours:)	[18:57]
BTC-Mining	yes?	[18:57]
Enky	i've undestood how it works	[18:57]
Enky	finally	[18:58]
kakobrekla	:D	[18:58]
Enky	it's simple	[18:58]
Enky	it is direct	[18:58]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.649 = 5.841 BTC [+]	[18:58]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [+]	[18:58]
Enky	example:	[18:58]
Enky	100 bts account for 0.1 lots and 10 to 1 leverage for example	[18:58]
Enky	so i open eur/usd with 0.1 lots at 1.2500 and it goes to 1.2600	[18:59]
Enky	100 pips	[18:59]
Enky	or 0.8%	[18:59]
Enky	you earn 0.8% plus leverage	[18:59]
Enky	in this case 10 to 1 or 8% or 8 btc	[18:59]
Enky	100 btc initial value + 8% of profit	[19:00]
Enky	that's all:)	[19:00]
Enky	no conversion	[19:00]
BTC-Mining	you earn +8% on the EURO amount!	[19:00]
Enky	no btc	[19:00]
Enky	100 btc = 0.1 lots	[19:00]
Diablo-D3	dongs	[19:01]
Enky	you never convert	[19:01]
Enky	there are not euro amount	[19:01]
Enky	only % of profit	[19:01]
Enky	in units	[19:01]
Enky	in this case btc	[19:01]
Enky	you do 20% ? ok you earn 20% for each 100 btc or 0.1 lots:)	[19:02]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 100 @ 0.7 = 70 BTC [+]	[19:02]
BTC-Mining	but you're having a fucking eur/usd position! How can you do that without a eur balance >.<	[19:02]
Enky	it's your problem	[19:02]
Enky	to hedge it	[19:02]
Enky	if you want to hedge it	[19:02]
Enky	it's never in euro	[19:03]
BTC-Mining	No, it's Kako's problem, because he runs the fiat balance for you, but he says no hedging...	[19:03]
Enky	he accepts only btc	[19:03]
Enky	it's unlinked	[19:03]
BTC-Mining	Then WHO PAYS for the position???	[19:04]
Enky	basically it follows profit in %	[19:04]
Enky	never in currency	[19:04]
Enky	and add that % to your account	[19:04]
Enky	or subtract if you have a loss	[19:04]
Enky	totally unlinked from the btc/usd volatility at mtgox	[19:04]
BTC-Mining	Where does the profit comes from if you NEVER actually had the fiat currency for the position??	[19:05]
Enky	probably from a trader that did the opposite trade	[19:05]
BTC-Mining	And if you make a profit, how do you buy the extra BTC to pay such profit?	[19:05]
Enky	as happens regularly on any forex broker	[19:05]
BTC-Mining	No, that's not what Kako said he wanted to do...	[19:05]
Enky	i understood that	[19:06]
kakobrekla	wanted to do what	[19:06]
Enky	if is it unlinked who pay a profit in btc to a guy that never held a position in fiat currency?	[19:07]
BTC-Mining	Enky claims a position will have to be matched with an opposite position also using BTC	[19:07]
kakobrekla	no	[19:07]
Enky	my guess btc	[19:07]
BTC-Mining	See, that's not what kako wants to do...	[19:07]
kakobrekla	any matchin or whatever is done by metatrader	[19:07]
Enky	by the firm then	[19:07]
BTC-Mining	yes, in fiat...	[19:07]
BTC-Mining	so profit/loss is in fiat	[19:08]
kakobrekla	you can trade any pair	[19:08]
kakobrekla	you make profits in btc	[19:08]
kakobrekla	or in units	[19:08]
kakobrekla	if its less disturbing	[19:08]
Enky	so the broker take the risk of potential large movement in the btc/usd ratio	[19:08]
BTC-Mining	so if BTC price changes during the position, it DOES matter	[19:08]
Enky	it does not matter for you, the customer for what i've understood	[19:09]
BTC-Mining	not for the customer, but for Kako, it does	[19:09]
kakobrekla	you had you money with pirate with 7% a week no matter if the usd btc price was 5 or 10 usd	[19:09]
Enky	ok for the customer is ok	[19:09]
Enky	but for the broker not, but most of the time orders tend to match each other, if there are a large amount of traders	[19:09]
kakobrekla	but that is done internally	[19:10]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 264 @ 0.10349954 = 27.3239 BTC [-]	[19:10]
Chaang-Noi	im a goat mother fuckers!	[19:10]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 109 @ 0.1035 = 11.2815 BTC [+]	[19:10]
kakobrekla	we dont have any control over what MT4 does	[19:10]
kakobrekla	inside	[19:10]
kakobrekla	their systems	[19:10]
Enky	that broker firm isnt small, probably they can handle few users in bitcoin	[19:10]
Enky	ok the mystery is resolved:)	[19:11]
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BTC-Mining	kako, you don't seem to understand you're making a profit on a position in FIAT. If you make a 10% (1 USD on 10 USD, for 1 BTC) profit in fiat but bitcoins value raises 10x in USD value during that time (100 USD). Your 1 USD will pay only for 1% extra in bitcoin, not 10%. Either you or MT4 would have to eat a damn loss to give that full 10%.	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	so its bitcoinica rehash.	[19:12]
BTC-Mining	WHO PAYS?	[19:12]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.122 = 0.244 BTC [+]	[19:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1035 BTC [+]	[19:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+]	[19:14]
Enky	the bitcoin reserve will pay	[19:14]
kakobrekla	there is no fiat	[19:14]
Enky	it is an extreme scenario btcmining	[19:14]
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BTC-Mining	Even if the change is smaller, there's a small loss...	[19:15]
Enky	kako said before that they have twice the amount of btc hold as reserver if i'm right	[19:15]
Enky	**Reserve	[19:15]
kakobrekla	first of all, i hold all deposits which are under my control and never converted to anything	[19:15]
kakobrekla	second of all there is a covering bank of twice the size of deposits size	[19:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7124 @ 0.00040102 = 2.8569 BTC [+]	[19:16]
kakobrekla	starting with 10k	[19:16]
BTC-Mining	that's all fine, but there's no 10% gain on position = 10% gain in BTC in that equation	[19:16]
BTC-Mining	Just 10% gain in fiat gives 10% gain in fiat	[19:16]
kakobrekla	you will get 10% more btc (your gain)	[19:17]
kakobrekla	no matter the usd btc value	[19:17]
kakobrekla	guaranteed	[19:17]
BTC-Mining	Then BTC price fluctuation matters for you. Will you hedge?	[19:17]
Enky	for the user it's ok	[19:17]
BTC-Mining	Yes, for the user it is, I'm concerned about kako here	[19:17]
kakobrekla	i have been asked to be a part of that operation (dealing with btc stock etc)	[19:18]
kakobrekla	but i have delicled for now	[19:18]
kakobrekla	declined*	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	well so why exactly do you associate your name with what seems a somewhat dubious proposition ?	[19:18]
BTC-Mining	oh, so it's not really your project?	[19:19]
kakobrekla	im working together with an existing forex broker firm	[19:19]
kakobrekla	and will be in charge of btc clients	[19:19]
kakobrekla	and will help with bitcoin tech stuff	[19:20]
Enky	will be fun	[19:20]
Enky	to use btc for forex	[19:20]
BTC-Mining	Ah... does that broker firms understand how wildly BTC price can vary?	[19:21]
kakobrekla	yes	[19:21]
BTC-Mining	I'm assuming they'll assume the price fluctuation risk here	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	mk, so let's see here. suppose i deposit 100 btc. at that time btc is 100 yen. i trade for yen, get 10k. a week later, btc is 50 yen. i trade back get 200 btc. now i withdraw. you pay me 200btc	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	from where does the extra 100 btc come from ?	[19:21]
Enky	get 10k of what? yen?	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[19:22]
Enky	it is in btc	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	dude. read what i said.	[19:22]
BTC-Mining	mircea, I had that exact discussion over and over	[19:22]
Enky	sorry	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	ok, so what's the answer ?	[19:23]
BTC-Mining	BTC/Fiat price magically doesn't matter	[19:23]
BTC-Mining	Who eats the risk of fluctuation is unclear.	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	well i guess this will need to be fleshed out more then.	[19:24]
Enky	it come from the broker, dunno if he hedge your trade in some way	[19:24]
BTC-Mining	if the broker hedge, it's fine	[19:25]
Enky	have no info on how it manage internally these orders	[19:25]
BTC-Mining	It should just be cleared up upfront	[19:25]
kakobrekla	17:43.51 ( Enky ) i earn 3% with eur usd, i earn 3% on my bitcoin balance	[19:25]
kakobrekla	17:44.33 ( Enky ) or 30% with 10 to 1 leverage	[19:25]
kakobrekla	this sums it up doesnt it?	[19:25]
Enky	it's direct	[19:25]
BTC-Mining	Yes, for the customer	[19:25]
BTC-Mining	not for the broker	[19:25]
Enky	you earn 80% with a 0.1 lots (100 btc) you earn 80 btc	[19:25]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 11 @ 0.10075 = 1.1083 BTC [+]	[19:25]
BTC-Mining	BTC/fiat price will impact the broker	[19:25]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 25 @ 0.1 = 2.5 BTC [-]	[19:25]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 400 @ 0.00999999 = 4 BTC [+]	[19:25]
Enky	probably they are big enough to take that risk, considering that at the begining there will be few users that will trade with bitcoins	[19:26]
Enky	compared to the rest of their customers	[19:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 24864 @ 0.00100545 = 24.9995 BTC [+]	[19:27]
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BTC-Mining	BTC/fiat price will impact the broker, simply because the % profit is in fiat, and he pays the same % in bitcoin, regardless of if bitcoin has gone up or down in value vs fiat	[19:27]
BTC-Mining	BTC/fiat price does matter a lot for the broker, especially if you go with high leverage like 1:1000	[19:28]
Enky	maybe they do that for advertising,to gain new users, and so they accepted to take that risk for marketing purpose, who knows...	[19:28]
Enky	they can reduce the leverage in any case, we are talking of small potatoes here, few users with bitcoin when they have maybe 100k users	[19:29]
BTC-Mining	Well I guess it's up to kako to see how that will be worked out.	[19:29]
Enky	yeah	[19:29]
Enky	i'm just speculating	[19:29]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [+]	[19:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9576 @ 0.00040102 = 3.8402 BTC [+]	[19:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4064 @ 0.00040105 = 1.6299 BTC [+]	[19:30]
BTC-Mining	The thing is, his contact was talking about 1:1000 leverage being possible. I doubt they'd take so much risk as a broker	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	with 1k btc i could do 10mn usd ?	[19:30]
BTC-Mining	Especially with bitcoin's wild swings	[19:30]
Enky	100 btc for 0.1 lot	[19:30]
BTC-Mining	1 million*	[19:30]
Enky	1000 usd for 0.1 lot, low leverage	[19:31]
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mircea_popescu	well 1k btc = 10k usd * 1000:1 = 10mn	[19:31]
BTC-Mining	sorry, right	[19:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.06 BTC [+]	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	i know plenty of people with 1k btc to play with	[19:31]
Enky	so 1 lot	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	i doubt therer's anyone with 10mn to dick around with.	[19:31]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1035 BTC [+]	[19:32]
assbot	[GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 2 @ 1.35 = 2.7 BTC [-]	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	more's the point :	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[19:33]
gribble	Best bid: 10.86553, Best ask: 10.887, Bid-ask spread: 0.02147, Last trade: 10.86553, 24 hour volume: 87642, 24 hour low: 10.43399, 24 hour high: 11.17	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	;;sell 87642	[19:33]
gribble	(sell [at\|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask\|bid\|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include (1 more message)	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	meh what was the command ? to sell 85k ?	[19:33]
BTC-Mining	Yeah, problem with that leverage of 1:1000 is, imagine guy with 1000 BTC going that way for 10 million USD and his position loses 0.05% (5k USD). x1000 for leverage, 50% loss.	[19:34]
Enky	yes	[19:34]
BTC-Mining	But broker only demands 50% of BTC used for that, so 500 BTC loss. But BTC went to 1 USD each during the position.	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining that's not the problem	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	the problem is i put 1k btc into that market, for 10mn	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	then i dump 99k btc on the market	[19:34]
BTC-Mining	Broker now has 500 USD for a 5000 USD loss	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	then i've made a 300% price decrease and that means a 300`000% gain on my position	[19:35]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.122 = 7.32 BTC [+]	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	so i take home 300`000 btc for this.	[19:35]
BTC-Mining	mircea, you're not trading ANY position containing BTC whatsoever.	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	o wait	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	what ?!	[19:36]
BTC-Mining	Strictly fiat1/fiat2 positions	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	o	[19:36]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.122 = 1.22 BTC [+]	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	hahaha so then what's the big deal, broker/whoever buys options	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	or just spotsells.	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	or etc.	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	i thought the idea was to do btc/fiat forex.	[19:36]
Enky	no	[19:37]
Enky	but i dont know long term plan of that broker	[19:37]
BTC-Mining	Yes, but Kako doesn't seem like he's going to hedge and says a 10% gain/loss on position = a 10% gain/loss on BTC	[19:37]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 135 @ 0.1035 = 13.9725 BTC [+]	[19:37]
BTC-Mining	Somehow BTC/fiat value has no impact in all this	[19:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10431 @ 0.00040105 = 4.1834 BTC [+]	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	well im sure you get your btc at then prevailing rates.	[19:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13369 @ 0.00040212 = 5.3759 BTC [+]	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	as in, you go in with 100 btc, buy fiatx, sell fiaty etc	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	then at the end you go back into btc, at then prevailing rates.	[19:38]
kakobrekla	what?	[19:38]
BTC-Mining	No, 10% gain on a USD/EUR position, 10% gain in BTC, guaranteed.	[19:38]
BTC-Mining	But no hedging from broker	[19:38]
kakobrekla	no conversion to fiat	[19:38]
kakobrekla	at any time	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	ok im confused.	[19:38]
BTC-Mining	It doesn't work kako, that's not how Forex works O.o	[19:39]
kakobrekla	jesus.	[19:39]
kakobrekla	lol	[19:39]
mircea_popescu	is there a faq or anything anywhere ?	[19:39]
mircea_popescu	cause this he said she said thing doesn't help me.	[19:39]
BTC-Mining	kako, can you confirm	[19:40]
BTC-Mining	10% gain on a USD/EUR position, 10% gain in BTC, guaranteed.	[19:40]
Enky	plus leverage	[19:40]
kakobrekla	yes	[19:40]
kakobrekla	yes	[19:40]
BTC-Mining	and will the broker hedge against BTC/fiat fluctuations?	[19:40]
kakobrekla	look mp	[19:40]
kakobrekla	you put in 100 btc	[19:40]
kakobrekla	you can trade up to 0.1 lot of anything you like	[19:40]
kakobrekla	you make a short or whatever	[19:40]
Enky	they have twice the amount of bitcoin held by customers, right kako?	[19:40]
kakobrekla	profit 10%	[19:40]
kakobrekla	your btc balance got 10% btc	[19:41]
kakobrekla	to back up the profits yes	[19:41]
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Enky	we're safe, as customers	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	but i didn't make the 10% in btc.	[19:41]
BTC-Mining	yes, but the broker isn't, and kako isn't answering about that	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	i made it in w/e fiats.	[19:41]
kakobrekla	you made 10% of units	[19:42]
Enky	isnt? depends	[19:42]
assbot	[GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [-]	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	right. of units. which aren't btc.	[19:42]
kakobrekla	well they are.	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	so if the units are btc then how come i buy fiat with them ?	[19:42]
kakobrekla	the size of the deposit limits the max trading amount allowed	[19:43]
kakobrekla	thats all	[19:43]
kakobrekla	you put in 100 btc	[19:43]
BTC-Mining	That doesn't explain anything, it's completly unrelated	[19:43]
kakobrekla	now you can borrow and short 10k usd	[19:43]
kakobrekla	on mt	[19:43]
Enky	or 0.1 lots	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	so if in december btc/usd = 100, will 100 btc still buy me 0.1 lot ?	[19:43]
kakobrekla	yes	[19:43]
kakobrekla	no matter the price	[19:44]
kakobrekla	100 btc will be 0.1 lot limit	[19:44]
mircea_popescu	can i short this lol	[19:44]
Enky	if bitcoin go to 100 you have to change the limit	[19:44]
kakobrekla	that wont happen in near future	[19:45]
Enky	100 btc or 100x100 10000 usd for 0.1 lots it's not attractive	[19:45]
Enky	100k usd	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	think about it kakobrekla : i send you 1k btc now, get 1 lot.	[19:45]
BTC-Mining	then broker is highly at risk of BTC/fiat price fluctuations. We understand the customer part, just not what the broker will do to protect against wild BTC price fluctuations.	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	that's 10k usd for 1 lot	[19:45]
Enky	1 lot usually is 100k usd at forex	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	in december i send you 1k btc for 1 lot, that's 100k usd for 1 lot ?!	[19:45]
kakobrekla	well i guess that the broker is 'long' on bitcoin	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	he'd have to be, yea.	[19:46]
kakobrekla	yes	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	just as long as he's aware of this.	[19:46]
kakobrekla	oh they are	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	good. cause as i was saying, btc is very volatile and has in the past, even recent past, caused a lot of pain.	[19:47]
rg	mircea	[19:47]
rg	the dividend is in long format	[19:47]
rg	right?	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	yep rg	[19:47]
rg	ok	[19:48]
rg	btw	[19:48]
kakobrekla	i have introduced bitcoin to them in january i think	[19:48]
kakobrekla	maybe december	[19:48]
rg	dont you think you should make deposit the long too	[19:48]
kakobrekla	or even earlier	[19:48]
rg	cause everything is long except deposit	[19:48]
rg	keep it uniform	[19:48]
kakobrekla	they have been following it closlely	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	rg well that's because it allows anon depositing	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	and then the digits are used to identify you	[19:48]
rg	oh	[19:48]
rg	i see	[19:48]
rg	that's not bad	[19:48]
BTC-Mining	The problem is, even if he's long on bitcoin... suppose someone makes a gain in fiat position (10%). That gain is in fiat. During that time, BTC value indeed goes long, it raises 200%. Try to buy with 10% fiat profit 10% profit in bitcoins worth 3x the price. You'd need to have made 30% profit on the position to pay the 10% in bitcoins.	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	yeah. in fact multiple people can deposit from same address (and they have, mtgox, etc)	[19:48]
BTC-Mining	Broker loses money.	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	in other news : http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lalq9cqBFg1qc6pb2o1_400.gif a quickie is no reason for the girl not to go fully nude.	[19:49]
rg	i forget what my notional float is	[19:49]
kakobrekla	BTC-Mining, thats why there is this enourmeus suppy of coins in the bank	[19:49]
rg	that's my total shares right	[19:49]
kakobrekla	supply	[19:49]
BTC-Mining	Yeah, but that's INCREDIBLY RISKY for the broker	[19:50]
BTC-Mining	especially at 1:1000 leverage available	[19:50]
Enky	if it is available	[19:50]
kakobrekla	i guess its more of a pocket change for them	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	rg : pm	[19:50]
BTC-Mining	Well if it's just a test for the heck of it...	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining i imagine it's something like that, get the ball rolling see what happens.	[19:51]
Enky	when will be possible to test it kako?	[19:51]
Enky	next month?	[19:51]
kakobrekla	if you can use your imagination to change eur profile to btc you can test it now	[19:51]
Enky	i want to operate, no demo:)	[19:52]
BTC-Mining	yes, that's the answer I was desperatly looking for. If the broker is aware of the risk/what he's going to do.	[19:52]
kakobrekla	Enky, wait till saso gets back online	[19:52]
BTC-Mining	BTC/fiat price has a big impact on the broker unders the terms that it doesn't affect the customer	[19:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] [PAID] 500000 @ 0.00007 = 35 BTC	[19:53]
BTC-Mining	Just wanted to know if that was clear with the broker.	[19:53]
kakobrekla	It is.	[19:53]
mircea_popescu	yeeee	[19:53]
rg	i wish i had some god dman milk	[19:54]
rg	i might go get some	[19:54]
BTC-Mining	Good, you never answered to that before. Arf, what an ordeal. Could have ended much earlier.	[19:54]
rg	dependinhg on how hot it is	[19:54]
kakobrekla	BTC-Mining: at least its over :)	[19:57]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.1041 = 0.8328 BTC [+]	[19:57]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 57 @ 0.10428 = 5.944 BTC [+]	[19:57]
BTC-Mining	aye, I really wasn't sure if there was a misunderstanding between you and your contact.	[19:58]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 20 @ 0.68 = 13.6 BTC [-]	[19:58]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 21 @ 0.68 = 14.28 BTC [-]	[19:59]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 100 @ 0.52 = 52 BTC [-]	[19:59]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-]	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	eurozone stays .75	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	this is ridiculous	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck interest rates should be in the 3-5%	[20:00]
kakobrekla	im glad we had this discussion might help me write better faq	[20:00]
kakobrekla	;>	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	usually how it works.	[20:01]
BTC-Mining	But when you insisted on the guaranteed % for the customer, I started asking about the impact for the broker instead, since there was supposed to be one.	[20:01]
BTC-Mining	You never answered to that broker part... were you just no longer reading my examples by that point? >.>	[20:02]
kakobrekla	on how to protect against btc devaluation?	[20:03]
Enky	they are long on bitcoin, and considering the broker, they have probably enough money to sustain prices at mtgox:))	[20:03]
Enky	if they would	[20:03]
BTC-Mining	or price raise	[20:03]
Enky	considering how small mtgox is	[20:04]
BTC-Mining	if people make a loss, and BTC price drops at the same time, or people make gains while BTC price raises at the same time	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	at any rate this is good by getting some more people involved in btc.	[20:04]
BTC-Mining	yes indeed, would be good to ahve a forex platform <-> BTC	[20:05]
Enky	this is good, maybe another broker do the same and bitcoin will spread in the financial community	[20:05]
Enky	attracting new investors that buy bitcoins	[20:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21759 @ 0.00039922 = 8.6866 BTC [-]	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	BTC-Mining if you think about it, as i can go right now into a forex platform with usd, whereas getting btc is complicated	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	they would HAVE to offer seemingly unreasonably buttered deals to get into btc.	[20:06]
BTC-Mining	apparently, there's some legal loopholes which would allow the BTC users to evade declaring forex profits at all... or something like that.	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	indeed so.	[20:08]
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mircea_popescu	the legal loopholes are called "take your laws and shove them till you're satisfied"	[20:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2160 @ 0.00086667 = 1.872 BTC [+]	[20:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10046 @ 0.00086842 = 8.7241 BTC [+]	[20:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6800 @ 0.00086934 = 5.9115 BTC [+]	[20:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3175 @ 0.00087173 = 2.7677 BTC [+]	[20:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.10428 = 10.428 BTC [+]	[20:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 91 @ 0.10428 = 9.4895 BTC [+]	[20:16]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]	[20:18]
BTC-Mining	the lender is the one giving the money...	[20:20]
BTC-Mining	the lendee would be deposit takes	[20:20]
BTC-Mining	although said lendees often then loaned those funds to others	[20:21]
BTC-Mining	a lender cannot really be untrustworthy tho	[20:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1200 @ 0.00087173 = 1.0461 BTC [+]	[20:24]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8099 = 4.0495 BTC [+]	[20:25]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.81 = 3.24 BTC [+]	[20:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 200 @ 0.00085667 = 0.1713 BTC [-]	[20:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12017 @ 0.00085573 = 10.2833 BTC [-]	[20:27]
assbot	[GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [-]	[20:31]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [-]	[20:40]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 56 @ 0.15 = 8.4 BTC [+]	[20:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0004 = 2 BTC [+]	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00039922 = 2.4352 BTC [-]	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9600 @ 0.00084917 = 8.152 BTC [-]	[20:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00039922 = 7.7848 BTC [-]	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	786.15699996 BTC on 06-09-12	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	holy shit s.dice paid dividends ?!	[20:59]
BTC-Mining	You're late on the question	[20:59]
mircea_popescu	i just noticed	[20:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 2 @ 0.11934398 = 0.2387 BTC [-]	[21:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1 @ 0.11933215 BTC [-]	[21:00]
kakobrekla	when is the bet due	[21:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.0034 = 340 BTC [+]	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	which bet ?	[21:03]
DeaDTerra	GSDPT has paid their investors the divdidend :)	[21:04]
DeaDTerra	The reason why there were no ask wall as was due to that me and Erik were a bit off sync so to make it fair I took down the bid wall until I could pay the dividend.	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	i thought it sold out ?	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	or you mean, the buy side ?	[21:05]
DeaDTerra	No I meant like I couldn't offer any shares until the dividend had been paid out otherwise it would have gotten diluted.	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	ah yes.	[21:06]
DeaDTerra	what was the bet about?	[21:06]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [+]	[21:06]
DeaDTerra	I wanted to bet dammit xD	[21:06]
DeaDTerra	I would have bet a lot on Erik	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	on erik you bet by buying his shares lol	[21:07]
DeaDTerra	Well I could have bet on him twice xD	[21:08]
DeaDTerra	my pass through isn't much risk as I will only pay if Erik pays :P	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	i like the mkt depth on mpex so far, like 700btc worth ?	[21:09]
assbot	[GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.48 = 2.96 BTC [-]	[21:09]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10428 BTC [+]	[21:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4566 @ 0.00085011 = 3.8816 BTC [+]	[21:11]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [+]	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	!ticker s.dice	[21:13]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (100165 shares, 340.56 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00327629 / 0.0034 (3637679 shares, 11,918.11 BTC)	[21:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 1.035 = 10.35 BTC [-]	[21:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.03 BTC [-]	[21:14]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.02 BTC [-]	[21:14]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.10428 = 0.73 BTC [+]	[21:17]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	what's the news on the shtylman case btw ?	[21:19]
JWU_42	;;bc,stats	[21:19]
gribble	Current Blocks: 197568 \| Current Difficulty: 2694047.952955 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 199583 \| Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 7 hours, 16 minutes, and 35 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 10776191.81182005 \| Estimated Percent Change: 300	[21:19]
JWU_42	heh	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/s4IKe.png	[21:20]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.08999 = 0.8999 BTC [+]	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	this is pretty good.	[21:20]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [GOLD] 10 @ 0.00989 = 0.0989 BTC [+]	[21:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17029 @ 0.00040212 = 6.8477 BTC [+]	[21:26]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.168 BTC [+]	[21:34]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.074989 BTC [+]	[21:35]
assbot	[GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 30 @ 0.001 = 0.03 BTC [+]	[21:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 134700 @ 0.003325 = 447.8775 BTC [-]	[21:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 250 @ 0.00358446 = 0.8961 BTC [-]	[21:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 500 @ 0.00352902 = 1.7645 BTC [-]	[21:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 450 @ 0.00352306 = 1.5854 BTC [-]	[21:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 34 @ 0.00349912 = 0.119 BTC [-]	[21:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 147 @ 0.003456 = 0.508 BTC [-]	[21:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 417 @ 0.0033891 = 1.4133 BTC [-]	[21:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6625 @ 0.00087173 = 5.7752 BTC [+]	[21:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2392 @ 0.00087312 = 2.0885 BTC [+]	[21:46]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 25 @ 0.089 = 2.225 BTC [-]	[21:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1202 @ 0.003385 = 4.0688 BTC [-]	[21:55]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [+]	[21:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 70 @ 0.00359095 = 0.2514 BTC [+]	[21:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BVPS] 450 @ 0.00366612 = 1.6498 BTC [+]	[21:55]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 17 @ 0.09 = 1.53 BTC [+]	[21:56]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 33 @ 0.095 = 3.135 BTC [+]	[21:56]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 2 @ 0.00445 = 0.0089 BTC [-]	[21:56]
rg	usagi:	[21:57]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 17 @ 0.095 = 1.615 BTC [+]	[21:57]
rg	i think i speak for all men when i say	[21:57]
rg	you're banned	[21:57]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [BDT] 2 @ 1.02 = 2.04 BTC [-]	[22:02]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]	[22:06]
assbot	[GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 33 @ 0.1 = 3.3 BTC [+]	[22:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00039996 = 16.5183 BTC [-]	[22:08]
smickles	rg: my domain is up for renewal, is there any place you recomend for domain management?	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	namecheap	[22:13]
kakobrekla	ZT has a service for that :)	[22:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.122 = 3.538 BTC [+]	[22:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [PPT.E] 20 @ 0.3200001 = 6.4 BTC [+]	[22:13]
assbot	[GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0949 = 0.2847 BTC [+]	[22:13]
mircea_popescu	i think i speak for all men when i say you're banned << well... i'm ignoring it at any rate.	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40&sign=ANY&type=RECV daily installment of pirate wot saga. today down to 103	[22:16]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 4 @ 1.35 = 5.4 BTC [-]	[22:22]
assbot	[GLBSE] [NYAN] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]	[22:23]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu too bad we didnt chart it	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	ya lol	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	what did he have at the peak, 270 ?	[22:24]
kakobrekla	i guess	[22:24]
kakobrekla	hm	[22:25]
Enky	270k btc?	[22:25]
kakobrekla	now thats a weeked project	[22:25]
kakobrekla	weekend	[22:25]
kakobrekla	chart errything historicaly from the irc chan log that streams otc ratings	[22:25]
kakobrekla	i think its #bitcoin-otc-ratings	[22:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7708 @ 0.00087312 = 6.73 BTC [+]	[22:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12192 @ 0.00087369 = 10.652 BTC [+]	[22:26]
Enky	what r u talking about kako?	[22:26]
kakobrekla	about charting OTC ratings historically	[22:26]
kakobrekla	!getrating kakobrekla	[22:26]
kakobrekla	;;getrating kakobrekla	[22:26]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net . User kakobrekla, rated since Fri May 13 15:50:53 2011. Cumulative rating 82, from 46 total ratings. Received ratings: 46 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 48 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla	[22:26]
kakobrekla	this	[22:26]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ABM] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]	[22:27]
Enky	i've to add some negative feedback:)	[22:27]
kakobrekla	:D	[22:27]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10427 BTC [-]	[22:28]
Enky	this comment is the best: "very good guy and good girlfriend, a must see"	[22:28]
kakobrekla	lol	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	Enky no, 270 trust points. you know what the wot is ?	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla that really is a good ideea.	[22:30]
Enky	perhaps	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	what sarajoolz does is nice, but historical thing would be helpful.	[22:30]
Enky	2 yrs ago kako explained it to mee, i forgot	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	aite.	[22:31]
Enky	trust points for over the count btc transaction i guess	[22:31]
kakobrekla	smth like that ya	[22:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13253 @ 0.00040127 = 5.318 BTC [+]	[22:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9012 @ 0.00039922 = 3.5978 BTC [-]	[22:32]
JWU_42	;;getrating JWU42	[22:33]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask JWU42!~JW@unaffiliated/subpar . User JWU42, rated since Thu Mar 24 19:21:43 2011. Cumulative rating 66, from 31 total ratings. Received ratings: 31 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 29 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=JWU42	[22:33]
JWU_42	hmm - never got close to 100	[22:33]
JWU_42	a negative - WTF	[22:33]
JWU_42	hmm	[22:33]
JWU_42	ahh	[22:33]
JWU_42	sent negative - for Mr. P	[22:34]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[22:35]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00335 = 3.35 BTC [+]	[22:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.003385 = 11.8475 BTC [+]	[22:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5500 @ 0.0034 = 18.7 BTC [+]	[22:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 840 @ 0.9107277 = 765.0113 BTC [+]	[22:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 10000 @ 0.00100554 = 10.0554 BTC [+]	[22:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 15000 @ 0.00100831 = 15.1247 BTC [+]	[22:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 25000 @ 0.00102545 = 25.6363 BTC [+]	[22:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12134 @ 0.0008624 = 10.4644 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8000 @ 0.00084917 = 6.7934 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15200 @ 0.00084525 = 12.8478 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6553 @ 0.00084496 = 5.537 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 23600 @ 0.00083489 = 19.7034 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12888 @ 0.00082673 = 10.6549 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2700 @ 0.00082516 = 2.2279 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2300 @ 0.00081842 = 1.8824 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13300 @ 0.00081575 = 10.8495 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3325 @ 0.00080755 = 2.6851 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3164 @ 0.00080755 = 2.5551 BTC [-]	[22:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15418 @ 0.00080439 = 12.4021 BTC [-]	[22:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 180 @ 0.24918261 = 44.8529 BTC [-]	[22:53]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.0034 = 0.1428 BTC [+]	[22:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19069 @ 0.00040212 = 7.668 BTC [+]	[22:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12331 @ 0.00040348 = 4.9753 BTC [+]	[22:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00040348 = 8.4731 BTC [+]	[23:05]
assbot	[GLBSE] [PPT.A] 24 @ 0.3200001 = 7.68 BTC [+]	[23:07]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.122 = 0.61 BTC [+]	[23:08]
gabbynot	what movie?	[23:10]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]	[23:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1471 @ 0.00079964 = 1.1763 BTC [-]	[23:14]
assbot	[GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.119 = 0.833 BTC [-]	[23:15]
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Enky	i havent understood too much the whole story	[23:16]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 30 @ 0.15 = 4.5 BTC [+]	[23:17]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 6 @ 0.15 = 0.9 BTC [+]	[23:18]
gabbynot	he's not using escrow, correct?	[23:18]
gabbynot	usagi: isn't the matthew thing a big part of nyan.c assets?	[23:19]
gabbynot	the bet	[23:20]
gabbynot	still bids on the PPT's…certainly a hail mary gamble	[23:23]
assbot	[GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]	[23:25]
gabbynot	i'd bid .02 at this point	[23:25]
gabbynot	you never know i guess	[23:25]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [-]	[23:26]
assbot	[GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.149 BTC [-]	[23:30]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10427 BTC [-]	[23:37]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 100 @ 0.089 = 8.9 BTC [-]	[23:46]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 30 @ 0.09 = 2.7 BTC [+]	[23:46]
assbot	[GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 30 @ 0.099 = 2.97 BTC [+]	[23:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [+]	[23:48]
assbot	[GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 100 @ 0.064998 = 6.4998 BTC [+]	[23:50]
assbot	[GLBSE] [SS] 9 @ 0.021 = 0.189 BTC [-]	[23:50]
assbot	[GLBSE] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.003395 = 0.0679 BTC [-]	[23:51]
assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10427 BTC [-]	[23:51]
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assbot	[GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 15 @ 0.10428 = 1.5642 BTC [+]	[23:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00039971 = 13.3503 BTC [-]	[23:55]
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