Forum logs for 05 Sep 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
BTC-Mining Why u no use SingleHop in chicago? [00:00]
rg i do [00:00]
rg Chicago is full [00:00]
BTC-Mining I like SingleHop =/ [00:00]
rg i havent put any new clients on chicago in months [00:00]
rg we have like 3 other awesome nodes [00:00]
rg switzerland is SO fucking popular [00:00]
rg definitely a good move, on my part, cause i rule [00:01]
rg gonna get another node in switzerland soon [00:01]
rg probably this month [00:01]
rg ok [00:01]
rg afk for few hrs [00:01]
mircea_popescu i kinda like singlehop too [00:01]
mircea_popescu for like us gaming and stuff it's pretty well placed [00:01]
BTC-Mining Why switzerland? Because of the financial laws? [00:01]
dub admin@aklab-mx960> request system reboot [00:02]
dub error: could not open database: /var/run/db/juniper.db: Too many open files in system [00:02]
dub doh, sorry [00:02]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4800 @ 0.00084715 = 4.0663 BTC [+] [00:02]
* dub stabs juniper [00:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [00:02]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining i think they're right in the middle of the german ring [00:03]
mircea_popescu great peering all through [00:03]
BTC-Mining Eh, I guess [00:03]
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mircea_popescu i dunno who trusts their "financial privacy" anymore anyway [00:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00040147 = 8.8323 BTC [+] [00:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15000 @ 0.0034 = 51 BTC [+] [00:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7700 @ 0.00084715 = 6.5231 BTC [+] [00:07]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15331 @ 0.00082643 = 12.67 BTC [-] [00:07]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2000 @ 0.0007984 = 1.5968 BTC [-] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1100 @ 0.00076437 = 0.8408 BTC [-] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 22185 @ 0.00076166 = 16.8974 BTC [-] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11500 @ 0.0007597 = 8.7366 BTC [-] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 20876 @ 0.00075129 = 15.6839 BTC [-] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9308 @ 0.00074879 = 6.9697 BTC [-] [00:08]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 1 @ 0.095 BTC [+] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 9 @ 0.09999 = 0.8999 BTC [+] [00:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8292 @ 0.00074879 = 6.209 BTC [-] [00:10]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2000 @ 0.00074567 = 1.4913 BTC [-] [00:10]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19708 @ 0.00073557 = 14.4966 BTC [-] [00:10]
usagi http://stochastically.com -- quotes, dividends, and more! [00:10]
* copumpkin throws usagi an ito integral [00:10]
mircea_popescu da fuck is that. like a riemann ? [00:12]
usagi LOL [00:12]
usagi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%C5%8D_calculus [00:12]
usagi [06:12:20] da fuck is that. like a riemann ? [00:12]
usagi priceless [00:12]
mircea_popescu what's so priceless about it ? [00:13]
usagi You keep saying how much you know about finance and how little the people who disagree with you do [00:13]
mircea_popescu dude, i'm not a quant. [00:13]
usagi What exactly is your finance background? [00:14]
mircea_popescu trading. [00:14]
dub here is usagi's finance background http://i.imgur.com/bpKwU.gif [00:14]
mircea_popescu for instance, when they made the first large romanian brokerage house, way back in the 90s [00:14]
usagi Yeah well see this is what I am talking about. [00:14]
usagi Have you actually studied finance at all? [00:14]
mircea_popescu they went through customer roosters and picked people to hire to train as brokers. [00:15]
mircea_popescu they picked me, but i couldn't go, cause i was 17. [00:15]
copumpkin dragostea din tei [00:15]
mircea_popescu ahah wut ? [00:16]
usagi Well I can't say I'm suprised [00:16]
usagi Everyone here is a trader mircea that isn't something special [00:16]
mircea_popescu sigh. [00:16]
mircea_popescu everyone on the internet is a dog [00:16]
mircea_popescu when they're done being an astronaut and Casanova. [00:16]
copumpkin everyone on the internet is a pornstar [00:17]
* copumpkin is, at least [00:17]
usagi Actually it is interesting that you mention quants, I wonder if any of the bots around here have any good math inside them [00:17]
mircea_popescu no, they have bad math. [00:17]
mircea_popescu tis satanic. [00:17]
usagi Oh wow dub that really does look like me too! [00:18]
JWU_42 2+1 = maybe yes [00:18]
EskimoBob you guys are still going at it :) wtf! [00:18]
EskimoBob yawn... [00:18]
JWU_42 EskimoBob: see what u are missing out on... [00:18]
mircea_popescu so let's cut this fish then. usagi, pick a couple of stochastic processes of your choosing and demonstrate ito calculus. [00:18]
copumpkin I wish I could list porn on my resume [00:18]
EskimoBob naaah... I do not care [00:19]
mircea_popescu you have one hour. do something that's not available to c/p online. [00:19]
usagi lol [00:19]
copumpkin child porn? [00:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00040132 = 11.7988 BTC [-] [00:19]
usagi You don't even know what that means, mircea [00:19]
mircea_popescu dude, never mind me. you have one hour./ [00:19]
mircea_popescu don't fritter it away. [00:19]
usagi How about no [00:19]
mircea_popescu this is your one chance to impress the adults. [00:19]
usagi No wait, let's make this interesting [00:19]
copumpkin http://quant.stackexchange.com/ [00:19]
usagi I'll bet you $1000 [00:19]
usagi right now mircea [00:20]
usagi yes or no [00:20]
mircea_popescu bet me 100o that waht ? [00:20]
usagi Right now yes or now. [00:20]
copumpkin lol [00:20]
mircea_popescu aw shit. [00:20]
copumpkin flip dat coin [00:20]
smickles ;;coin [00:20]
gribble heads [00:20]
smickles :D [00:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1021 = 0.2042 BTC [+] [00:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.099998 = 4.9999 BTC [+] [00:21]
mircea_popescu so basically what happened here is that copumpkin said something, usagi googled, found wikipedia and now thinks he knows ito calculus. and he'll bet me. [00:21]
usagi Ok yeah back to work I guess... [00:21]
mircea_popescu this reminds me vaguely of that thing that failed, what was it called... [00:21]
mircea_popescu the one on reddit. [00:21]
usagi That thing called mircea has no balls [00:21]
usagi kek [00:21]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: /r/jailbait? [00:21]
mircea_popescu nono, [00:21]
Lyspooner heliocentrism? [00:21]
copumpkin /r/reddit.com ? [00:21]
mircea_popescu the "company" that was doing something or the other and peopleended up logging in as anyone etc [00:21]
mircea_popescu lemme dig. [00:22]
copumpkin digg :) [00:22]
mircea_popescu bitdaytrade [00:22]
mircea_popescu "We do use... that thing... the one you just talked about. Right. We totally use that. You know, the one from... the market. The thing market." [00:23]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ybaut/do_not_invest_in_bitdaytrade_this_website_is/ [00:23]
mircea_popescu this is about the level of it tbh. [00:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1021 = 1.021 BTC [+] [00:23]
copumpkin oh that [00:24]
mircea_popescu yeah. that ito thing. [00:24]
mircea_popescu with the good math. [00:24]
copumpkin speaking of finance and math [00:24]
copumpkin https://class.coursera.org/compfinance-2012-001 [00:24]
smickles coursera, i've heard talk about that site [00:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 50 @ 0.00999999 = 0.5 BTC [+] [00:25]
usagi copumpkin is that a good site? [00:25]
usagi Will it teach me how to align this motherf***** buy button? https://hotwallet.ca/xc/orderbook.php [00:25]
mircea_popescu why don't they put the teachers' names up front ? [00:25]
copumpkin usagi: it's just a general site for running online courses, but the course is starting today [00:25]
copumpkin and it's a prof from UW [00:25]
mircea_popescu o ? [00:25]
copumpkin so it sounds fairly legit [00:25]
copumpkin it's one of those free online courses [00:25]
usagi online courses have come a long way [00:25]
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Lyspooner i was told this was a channel concerning bitcoin assets? [00:26]
copumpkin Lyspooner: it's a pissing contest, really [00:26]
mircea_popescu http://quant.stackexchange.com/questions/1490/why-would-an-investor-trade-a-variance-swap-over-a-volatility-swap [00:26]
mircea_popescu i like that one. [00:27]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner well there's the assbot dumping quotes [00:27]
* rainbowtubgirl is now known as smickles [00:27]
mircea_popescu and then the people discuss vaguely related matters. [00:27]
Lyspooner ok cool [00:27]
smickles Lyspooner: what asset would you like to talk about? [00:27]
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mircea_popescu lol [00:27]
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smickles damn, i was just going to route him to the assbot wiki page [00:28]
copumpkin there's also skiena's comp finance course [00:28]
copumpkin if people like this kind of stuff [00:28]
usagi it's all about price discovery [00:28]
mircea_popescu i kinda like copumpkin cause he tries to be constructive. [00:28]
usagi once you know what something is worth... you can have conviction in your trade [00:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.7899 = 2.3697 BTC [+] [00:29]
copumpkin http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~skiena/691/ is the one, and it has lecture notes, slides, and videos! [00:29]
copumpkin and you can hear skiena say "mmkay" every two words [00:29]
copumpkin for about 20 hours [00:29]
copumpkin (I'm not kidding, it's like the dude in south park) [00:29]
* copumpkin hugs mircea_popescu [00:29]
* copumpkin hugs usagi [00:30]
smickles o [00:30]
* usagi bursts into tears. [00:30]
* copumpkin takes mircea_popescu's pinky and joins it to usagi's, in a bond of eternal friendship and respect [00:30]
* copumpkin farts loudly [00:30]
smickles lol [00:30]
mircea_popescu i dun think i'm cool enough yet copumpkin. i rarely know what things are worth [00:30]
mircea_popescu and when i do it's usually 0. [00:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1021 = 0.5105 BTC [+] [00:30]
* usagi watches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpfe8yXxSys [00:30]
copumpkin my time is worth $0 :( [00:30]
mircea_popescu always suspected you had self-worth issues [00:31]
copumpkin usagi: aha, now we know your financial qualifications! [00:31]
copumpkin usagi: isn't there that dude in a top hat? is he your financial mentor? [00:31]
copumpkin he was called milord in the italian dubbed version [00:31]
mircea_popescu alice in wonderland rip-offs ? [00:31]
copumpkin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEqhXdFyrzQ [00:32]
copumpkin that dude [00:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [00:32]
copumpkin I quite like that quant stack exchange though [00:32]
usagi Endymion....... [00:32]
copumpkin more people should use it [00:32]
copumpkin lol [00:32]
copumpkin that sounds more badass [00:32]
copumpkin I never watched it in english or japanese [00:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1021 = 0.2042 BTC [+] [00:32]
usagi That's his name [00:32]
copumpkin you know what I love? [00:33]
usagi Kamen Rider? [00:33]
copumpkin when people take an obscure math concept, read for about two minutes, and then write a long blog post explaining it, completely wrong [00:33]
copumpkin from the first sentence [00:33]
usagi Where [00:33]
copumpkin I appreciate people trying to learn and people trying to teach [00:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.137 = 1.096 BTC [+] [00:33]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1375 BTC [+] [00:33]
copumpkin http://haskell-web.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/from-monads-to-monoids-in-small.html [00:34]
usagi Haskell is really good for parsing. [00:34]
copumpkin there's so much wrong with that page [00:34]
copumpkin I feel bad [00:34]
mircea_popescu getting back to things of import : so wright has ~4 days to pay up 150k usd ? [00:34]
usagi Too bad it's so operator heavy. [00:34]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: it's more like 350k now [00:34]
mircea_popescu o [00:34]
usagi 35,000 bitcoins :/ [00:35]
copumpkin pfft [00:35]
copumpkin peanuts! [00:35]
usagi bye bye dcoa [00:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [00:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [+] [00:36]
usagi or whatever it's called [00:36]
usagi zero credibility [00:36]
mircea_popescu what's dcoa ? [00:36]
usagi Well it's a big secret but it won't be if he doesn't pay [00:36]
mircea_popescu http://www.google.com/search?q=dcoa+bitcoin <<< [00:37]
mircea_popescu conspiracy [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1021 = 1.021 BTC [+] [00:39]
usagi Well it's hardly a secret, I mean it isn't like they don't have a website. [00:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+] [00:39]
mircea_popescu big secret hardly a secret ? pick one. [00:39]
* usagi ponders spilling the beans [00:39]
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JWU_42 Digital Currency ... [00:41]
mircea_popescu of alabama ? [00:41]
JWU_42 winner [00:41]
usagi You guys keep spoiling my jokes on mircea lol [00:42]
JWU_42 Hey bubba - you know that there 'nernet thingie [00:42]
mircea_popescu its coming to alabamer [00:42]
JWU_42 I lived there for 4 years - allows me certain liberties to disparage it =) [00:43]
mircea_popescu i lived there for about a week [00:43]
mircea_popescu but tbh i kinda liked the place so. [00:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1375 = 0.6875 BTC [+] [00:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [+] [00:44]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/yc6rf/we_demand_a_public_apology_from_uthezenpadguy/ im just re-reading all this. [00:44]
usagi yeah i sold all bdt from nyan.b 3 weeks ago [00:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1389 = 0.6945 BTC [+] [00:45]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.13889 = 1.3889 BTC [-] [00:47]
usagi http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ybaut/do_not_invest_in_bitdaytrade_this_website_is/ [00:47]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.099999 = 1 BTC [+] [00:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.14999999 = 0.75 BTC [+] [00:51]
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PsychoticBoy !ticker FDBF [00:53]
mircea_popescu http://titleofmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/i-therefore-pronounce-him-a-coward-scoundrel-william-tradewell-general-read.jpg [00:54]
assbot [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.149] [Ask: 0.14999999] [Spread: 0.00099999] [Last: 0.14999999] [24hVol: 30.14999799] [7dAvg: 0.14824659] [00:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.13889 BTC [-] [00:54]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-] [01:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00040147 = 3.4526 BTC [+] [01:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+] [01:02]
dub http://dcao.org/?page_id=36 [01:04]
mircea_popescu !pl PPT.A 1 [01:04]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [01:04]
assbot No dividend payments yet. [01:04]
mircea_popescu aww! [01:04]
mircea_popescu !pl PPT.D 1 [01:04]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [01:04]
assbot No dividend payments yet. [01:04]
mircea_popescu tsk tsk. [01:04]
dub its like a roll call at a special school [01:04]
mircea_popescu wtf os that ;/ [01:04]
mircea_popescu including some of the brightest minds and most passionate voices in the Bitcoin world. [01:05]
dub thats DCAO [01:05]
mircea_popescu bejeebuz. [01:05]
mircea_popescu In September of 2011 an interesting concept was presented in the DCAO minutes to increase accessibility of digital commodities through mobile payment processors. [01:05]
mircea_popescu i take it it's long dead. [01:05]
dub ELLET [01:06]
mircea_popescu Founded in July 2010, the Organization has already played a major role in the development of cutting-edge financial services and promotional campaigns [01:06]
mircea_popescu lmao [01:06]
mircea_popescu let me guess, mybitwallet and bitcoinica. [01:06]
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dub anything matthew touches is going to fail [01:07]
mircea_popescu if history's any guide... [01:07]
dub I'm half expecting some high drama suicide attempt or somethign once he loses this bet [01:08]
dub he appears quite manic about it [01:08]
mircea_popescu im looking forward to it. maybe he misses. [01:08]
dub I honestly hope he succeeds [01:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 14 @ 0.1021 = 1.4294 BTC [+] [01:08]
dub there are some people we are just better off without [01:08]
mircea_popescu well if he was going to miss and misses... [01:08]
dub sadly I suspect there will just be a show [01:09]
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mircea_popescu im sure we'll read all about it in that magazine thingamajig [01:11]
dub doubt it [01:11]
mircea_popescu "I read and dismissed Ayn Rand in the late 1970's. She codified and packaged selfishness and boorishness in such a nice way that it resonated with selfish boors." [01:11]
mircea_popescu what's a boor ? [01:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00040147 = 3.9344 BTC [+] [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00040186 = 1.0448 BTC [+] [01:12]
nefario some1 from south afica wt a gun [01:12]
dub thats boer [01:13]
nefario da da da [01:13]
dub they made good sausage [01:13]
dub http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Boerewors_raw.jpg/250px-Boerewors_raw.jpg [01:13]
copumpkin moo [01:14]
mircea_popescu their chief guy, kruger (for whom the kugerrand is named) actually believed the earth is flat. [01:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.000124 = 0.0006 BTC [-] [01:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+] [01:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1021 = 0.3063 BTC [+] [01:17]
mircea_popescu Speaking of that, Zhou I wanted your thoughts on the financial situation. [01:23]
mircea_popescu As you know, Bitcoinica went from cranking out 6-figure profit one month to [01:23]
mircea_popescu a flatline the next. I covered most of the deficit from the hack on the [01:23]
mircea_popescu assumption Bitcoinica profits would quickly fill in the rest. What's [01:23]
mircea_popescu happened instead is a consistent equity leak that has remained unresolved [01:23]
mircea_popescu for two months. We've gone from being short 40k to now being short 88k. [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22628 @ 0.00040186 = 9.0933 BTC [+] [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12072 @ 0.00040302 = 4.8653 BTC [+] [01:23]
mircea_popescu this is why i was saying im not so sure the zhoutong friend story is true. [01:24]
mircea_popescu maybe the guy just got his own money back. [01:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.7211 = 3.6055 BTC [-] [01:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.721 = 6.489 BTC [-] [01:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.72000001 = 2.88 BTC [-] [01:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 12 @ 0.72 = 8.64 BTC [-] [01:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 1 @ 0.24475 BTC [-] [01:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0957 = 0.957 BTC [+] [01:30]
dub so Tihan took it? [01:31]
dub more conspiracy for nefario [01:31]
mircea_popescu dub i have no ideea, i was just saying why i have my doubts. [01:33]
dub its exactly the kind of stupidly transparent lie chinese tell [01:33]
mircea_popescu which ? [01:34]
dub "some guy I know and did business with, who also uses my old email address sometimes, took the money. BUT he is willing to give it back if I ask him nicely" [01:34]
mircea_popescu a a that. yeah. [01:35]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, the truth may be "this guy i know with money who put up the deficit 4 months ago and now just took his own money back [01:35]
mircea_popescu might be whined into giving some more money for fear of X Y Z" [01:35]
dub why would zhou lie for tihan though? [01:35]
mircea_popescu how'd he be lieing for tihan ? [01:36]
mircea_popescu let me put this out plainly : [01:36]
dub remember he only came up with this story after trying to cash out the same amount that was taken from mtgox and some other exchange [01:36]
mircea_popescu 1. zhou wrote a shit algorithm for hedging. it seemed good-enouggh originally, but then started losing money. [01:36]
mircea_popescu 2. the site was hacked, the vps thing. [01:36]
dub and being outed by magicaltux [01:36]
mircea_popescu 3. zhou went to rich chinese guy, bla bla bla'd him about the future of currency, got 50k btc [01:36]
mircea_popescu on the deal that he'll pay it back with interest from the bitcoinica proceeds. [01:37]
mircea_popescu 4. no bitcoinica proceeds. [01:37]
mircea_popescu 5. guy takes his 50k btc back [01:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+] [01:37]
mircea_popescu 6. zhou claims "hack". [01:37]
mircea_popescu 7, zhou explains it was his friend bla bla bla. [01:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [-] [01:37]
mircea_popescu 8. zhou goes to tihan, whines and bitches, threatens him with the spirits of cryptoancestors [01:37]
dub you are missing another hack or two, but yeah, could have run athat way [01:37]
mircea_popescu 9. tihan throws him 10k btc to get out of this mess [01:37]
mircea_popescu ya i am, im trying to not run out of fingers here. [01:37]
mircea_popescu and yes, that mtgox cashing thing is also dubious. [01:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.MINING] 20 @ 0.0999 = 1.998 BTC [+] [01:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+] [01:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 6 @ 0.087 = 0.522 BTC [+] [01:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [CC] 1 @ 0.0001 BTC [01:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 3 @ 1.1301 = 3.3903 BTC [-] [01:46]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+] [02:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 20 @ 0.0975 = 1.95 BTC [+] [02:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 35 @ 0.1 = 3.5 BTC [+] [02:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 25 @ 0.1 = 2.5 BTC [+] [02:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1021 = 0.5105 BTC [+] [02:03]
mircea_popescu the bitfloor drama is fascinating. [02:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.64 = 1.92 BTC [+] [02:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.641 = 1.923 BTC [+] [02:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00040166 = 0.3213 BTC [-] [02:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.62869 = 1.8861 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.14999999 = 0.75 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.138889 = 6.9445 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.1388899 = 6.9445 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.13889 = 1.25 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1397 = 0.6985 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1398 = 2.796 BTC [+] [02:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1399 = 2.798 BTC [+] [02:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.14 = 2.94 BTC [+] [02:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1021 BTC [+] [02:15]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3284 @ 0.00085411 = 2.8049 BTC [+] [02:16]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5200 @ 0.0008556 = 4.4491 BTC [+] [02:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00040132 = 1.9665 BTC [-] [02:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00039964 = 3.4369 BTC [-] [02:18]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.14999999 = 0.75 BTC [+] [02:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 4 @ 0.5012 = 2.0048 BTC [+] [02:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 4 @ 0.5011 = 2.0044 BTC [-] [02:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.501 = 1.002 BTC [-] [02:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [-] [02:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09577 = 0.1915 BTC [+] [02:24]
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mircea_popescu Few questions: [02:26]
mircea_popescu Where your servers VPS? [02:26]
mircea_popescu from whois [02:26]
mircea_popescu Name Servers: [02:26]
mircea_popescu ns1.linode.com [02:26]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha ok this is the best i ever ehard. [02:26]
mircea_popescu people in btc ARE STILL USING LINODE ?! [02:26]
BTC-Mining Apparently? [02:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 9 @ 0.075 = 0.675 BTC [-] [02:27]
mircea_popescu i tell you, thiis is better than tv. [02:27]
BTC-Mining "Everyone else is using them in bitcoinland! They must be good!" [02:28]
mircea_popescu i never used them [02:28]
BTC-Mining Me neither [02:28]
dub to be fair linode is fine [02:28]
mircea_popescu dub i would never use them now. [02:29]
mircea_popescu they can't be fine. [02:29]
dub they had an employee go rogue, there is no protection from that [02:29]
mircea_popescu i don't care. what i do is, i pick things and blacklist them. [02:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 8 @ 1.65 = 13.2 BTC [-] [02:29]
mircea_popescu and there's no recourse. [02:29]
dub the problem is people putting hot wallets on _VPSEN_ [02:29]
dub that is fucking retarded [02:29]
mircea_popescu for sure. [02:29]
dub shit meeting [02:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09300001 = 0.186 BTC [-] [02:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.093 = 0.279 BTC [-] [02:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 43 @ 0.092705 = 3.9863 BTC [-] [02:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 25 @ 0.092605 = 2.3151 BTC [-] [02:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09260001 = 0.1852 BTC [-] [02:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 32 @ 0.0925 = 2.96 BTC [-] [02:30]
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smickles also [02:36]
smickles why arn't these exchanges audited and insured? [02:37]
mircea_popescu by whom ? [02:37]
Obsi CPA! [02:37]
mircea_popescu lol [02:38]
smickles well, don't people like neofurter and rg do security work? [02:38]
mircea_popescu smickles neither of those could eat a 25k loss. what else you got ? [02:38]
smickles and if cpa is currently the only option for insureance, something may be able to be worked out [02:38]
mircea_popescu cpa is the pet project of usagi, who is a well meaning and far overreaching anonymous english teacher. [02:38]
mircea_popescu insurance means somfin else. [02:39]
smickles mircea_popescu: it's a sector of the bitcoin economy that needs to be fleshed out, it seems [02:39]
mircea_popescu well... yeah, but it'll take time. [02:39]
Obsi Someone should write a how-to security guide for all these exchanges to get up to speed. [02:39]
mircea_popescu bunch of people have been throwing concepts around, just, insurance ain't so simple in btc. [02:40]
mircea_popescu Obsi someone was linking something on the forum. the problem is everyone has faith in themselves [02:40]
mircea_popescu this results in bizzare shortcuts and weird implementations. [02:40]
smickles i would imagine it to work out something like: in order to qualify for insurance, the agent would require you system to meet with some sort of inspection [02:41]
smickles and i bet the insurance would cost a pretty penny [02:41]
mircea_popescu smickles option contracts are insurance, in a way. i don't even know currently if i got taken for 4.5k or not. [02:41]
mircea_popescu leaving aside the fact that no actor in the "insurance" play=pretend space could eat that and survive, [02:41]
mircea_popescu what would you do ? [02:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 5 @ 0.14999999 = 0.75 BTC [+] [02:42]
smickles what would i do for what? [02:42]
mircea_popescu if you were in my shoes. you insured the btc/usd rate and took a loss. what now ? [02:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 400 @ 0.1021 = 40.84 BTC [+] [02:43]
smickles well, you take a loss. presumeably, you business can handle an amount of losses [02:43]
mircea_popescu right. this is not how insurance works. [02:43]
mircea_popescu insurance finds the culprit and sues. [02:43]
mircea_popescu or w/e, [pur]sues them. [02:43]
mircea_popescu so i want an answer to this q : do i need to pursue anyone or is it bona fide loss ? [02:43]
smickles how does insurance work when it's for stuff like hail damage? [02:44]
smickles no one to pursue there [02:44]
mircea_popescu you have hail models [02:44]
mircea_popescu yes, there is. you change the actuarial model. [02:44]
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Obsi You sue the weather [02:44]
mircea_popescu lol [02:45]
mircea_popescu but seriously smickles, it's very VERY hard to insure anon. [02:45]
mircea_popescu suppose you were insuring bitcoinica. [02:45]
mircea_popescu linode hack, you pay. [02:45]
mircea_popescu new hack, do you pay ? [02:45]
mircea_popescu even newer hack, pay still ? [02:45]
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smickles well, if i insured an exchange, i wouldn't allow it to be on a managed vps [02:45]
mircea_popescu soon enough best scammer business model would revolve around your insurance company. [02:45]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4800 @ 0.00085578 = 4.1077 BTC [+] [02:45]
mircea_popescu even irl, w/o anonimity insurance fraud is like the #1 fraud by volume tried in courts. [02:46]
mircea_popescu it's easy with hail, cause nobody can hail. [02:46]
mircea_popescu but your claims would result almost always from "hacks". [02:46]
smickles mircea_popescu: in your case, isn't all actual btc offline? [02:48]
mircea_popescu and actually, to this day us insurers won't do floods. [02:48]
mircea_popescu smickles yes. [02:48]
smickles so then a theft would have to come from physical theft [02:48]
mircea_popescu except im not an exchange. are you going to only insure exchanges that don't have hot wallets ? [02:49]
smickles it could be a start [02:49]
Obsi insurance company should provide the hosting & app platform, then they can be sure if actual hacking is taking place. [02:49]
mircea_popescu Obsi this is a good point. [02:49]
Diablo-D3 Obsi: in a way [02:50]
Diablo-D3 but the problem is [02:50]
mircea_popescu you'd need some muscle to force people into obedience, as in, the special cornflakes that they are don't want to give you their code. [02:50]
Diablo-D3 people suck at code [02:50]
Diablo-D3 the platform doesnt fix this [02:50]
smickles Diablo-D3: suppose the code has to be audited too [02:50]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 you don't let them run it. you run it/ they just give you the code. [02:50]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: erm [02:50]
mircea_popescu so yes, this would be a solution, but you would need something bigger than currently available [02:50]
Diablo-D3 you didnt read what I wrote [02:50]
Diablo-D3 THE CODE SUCKS [02:50]
mircea_popescu both in terms of fuck you power and in terms of btc [02:50]
Diablo-D3 full stop. [02:51]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 well... yeah. that too. [02:51]
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smickles if the code sucks, it doesn't qualify for insurance [02:51]
Diablo-D3 guess what: you can write stable and secure php. [02:51]
smickles is that so hard? [02:51]
Diablo-D3 smickles: YES [02:51]
Diablo-D3 if writing sane code was so easy, WE'D NEVER HAVE BUGS [02:51]
mircea_popescu smickles you can say you're insuring ppl atm then lol [02:51]
mircea_popescu just... nobody qualifies. [02:51]
Diablo-D3 I mean fuck [02:52]
Diablo-D3 it took me about 4 months to write an STM impl that wasnt shit [02:52]
Diablo-D3 and I still cant prove if its 100% correct [02:52]
smickles so there is no code good enough to even build an actuarial model around? [02:52]
Diablo-D3 I just know that every attempt Ive made to smash it has failed or lead to bugs that were fixed [02:52]
copumpkin I prove code all the time [02:52]
mircea_popescu smickles possibly not. we don't know. [02:52]
mircea_popescu is the fair answer. maybe there is. [02:52]
mircea_popescu we're too new and for the largest majority, too stupid. [02:52]
copumpkin granted, much simpler code than an STM impl :) [02:53]
Diablo-D3 copumpkin: bullshit, you'd have to use a language specifically for that [02:53]
copumpkin Diablo-D3: and I do [02:53]
mircea_popescu he does. [02:53]
Diablo-D3 theres only like three languages for that [02:53]
mircea_popescu ahaha [02:53]
Diablo-D3 and you cant even name one. [02:53]
mircea_popescu lettuce see this. [02:53]
copumpkin agda, coq, idris, epigram, [02:53]
mircea_popescu name one ahaha [02:53]
Diablo-D3 using wikipedia is cheating. [02:53]
copumpkin let's see [02:53]
copumpkin twelf [02:53]
copumpkin Diablo-D3: seriously? [02:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.099999 = 0.4 BTC [+] [02:53]
mircea_popescu BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT ITO INTEGRALS ARE [02:53]
copumpkin Diablo-D3: I do this shit in my free time [02:53]
JWU42 haha [02:53]
copumpkin https://github.com/copumpkin/categories/tree/master/Categories [02:54]
copumpkin I have thousands of lines of code of agda [02:54]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: ooh! ooh! I know what intergrals are! THEY ARE NIGHTMARE CONSTRUCTS SPAWNED BY EVIL MATH TEACHERS [02:54]
copumpkin plastered all over my github [02:54]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 i was referencing a speciffic discussion, i think you weren't here. [02:54]
Diablo-D3 oh [02:54]
Diablo-D3 copumpkin: feh [02:54]
mircea_popescu copumpkin so why don't you write an exchange ? [02:54]
Diablo-D3 still, go ahead and write a provable stm impl [02:54]
Diablo-D3 it aint happening [02:54]
copumpkin I was tempted to, and started working on it :) [02:54]
copumpkin the exchange one [02:54]
Diablo-D3 its ugly bastard code that I am not entirely pleased with [02:54]
copumpkin STM is hard [02:54]
mircea_popescu hehe kinda stepped in it Diablo-D3 huh [02:54]
copumpkin and I'm not going to try [02:54]
Diablo-D3 STM is extra fucking hard [02:55]
copumpkin I'd need to build concurrency models first [02:55]
Diablo-D3 maybe in 20 years I can replace it with hardware stm [02:55]
copumpkin because these languages give you very few primitives [02:55]
copumpkin so you need to build most things from scratch [02:55]
copumpkin HTM! [02:55]
Diablo-D3 not completely htm [02:55]
usagi Lets play a game [02:55]
usagi Fix the security hole: [02:55]
usagi function makealpha($s){ [02:55]
usagi $r = preg_replace('/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/i', '', $r); [02:55]
usagi return ($r); } [02:55]
Diablo-D3 complex hardware sychronization that fixes most of the .... [02:55]
Diablo-D3 usagi: weatkhalrjhwrlarjarlroufjojawr [02:55]
copumpkin lol [02:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 19 @ 0.1021 = 1.9399 BTC [+] [02:56]
copumpkin $r? [02:56]
usagi Ok that was level 1 [02:56]
usagi Now here's level 2 [02:56]
usagi function makealpha($s){ [02:56]
usagi $r = preg_replace('/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/i', '', $s); [02:56]
usagi return ($r); } [02:56]
Diablo-D3 LWKJERKLARJARJARJAKJADKAWE [02:56]
copumpkin lol [02:56]
usagi This obviously has blown Diablo-D3's mind. [02:56]
* Diablo-D3 can only scream in rage [02:57]
Diablo-D3 doesnt php even have a fucking function for that [02:57]
copumpkin usagi: so you have a function makealpha that removes all alpha? [02:57]
usagi Yes [02:57]
copumpkin hmm okay [02:57]
usagi But there's a security hole. [02:57]
Diablo-D3 there is a security hole BECAUSE SOMEONE THOUGHT REGEX WAS A GOOD IDEA [02:57]
Diablo-D3 its bad enough I can do that kind of shit in perl [02:58]
usagi um [02:58]
copumpkin why do you need /i? [02:58]
mircea_popescu regex is a good ideea if you don't allow FUCKEN CHINESE BS CHARS [02:58]
Diablo-D3 its an even worse idea to use php. for anything. at all. [02:58]
usagi No, that's not it Diablo. [02:58]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I can make secure unicode apps [02:58]
usagi There's a very real problem with the makealpha function [02:58]
Diablo-D3 usagi: then dont use it. [02:58]
Obsi match what you allow, don't remove what you don't want. [02:58]
mircea_popescu lol [02:58]
copumpkin oh [02:58]
Diablo-D3 Obsi: that only partially describes how ugly that regex is [02:59]
usagi If you can point out the security flaw I will hire you as my pen tester :p [02:59]
BTC-Mining I'm getting hungry... [02:59]
BTC-Mining Weird how I can't just stay 24/7 watching the bitcoin markets. [03:00]
mircea_popescu so bitfloor was making 200 btc a month. [03:00]
Diablo-D3 usagi: I just did. thats php. [03:00]
BTC-Mining Well off I go [03:00]
mircea_popescu listen, this is the reason there's not many decent exchanges. 2k a month ? srsly ? [03:00]
Diablo-D3 by default thats the one and only security flaw I need to know. [03:00]
mircea_popescu that's what, minimum wage. [03:00]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: writing an exchange is easy [03:00]
usagi Diablo thats nice but that's not the flaw [03:00]
Diablo-D3 usagi: that is 100% the flaw [03:00]
usagi Yeah but you don't know anything about computer security [03:01]
Diablo-D3 if I ran an insurance company and I had to audit code, anything written in php automatically fails. [03:01]
Diablo-D3 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA [03:01]
Diablo-D3 oh man [03:01]
usagi What would you suggest -- cgi? lol [03:01]
mircea_popescu no, he writes in java. [03:01]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: nope [03:01]
Diablo-D3 that ship saled. [03:01]
mircea_popescu what do you use ? [03:01]
Diablo-D3 back to C I went, [03:01]
mircea_popescu o [03:01]
Diablo-D3 I always end up back at C [03:01]
usagi PHP is pretty much enterprise class [03:01]
Diablo-D3 its the only language I can truly express myself in [03:02]
Diablo-D3 usagi: bull fucking shit [03:02]
usagi PHP is more popular than perl, ruby, lisp, erlang and haskell all rolled into one [03:02]
Diablo-D3 what planet have you been living on [03:02]
Diablo-D3 popular != secure. [03:02]
usagi The planet where people have reasons for what they believe in? [03:02]
mircea_popescu lol [03:02]
usagi You are so big on PH{' [03:02]
usagi PHP's security flaws -- okay, so, [03:02]
usagi whats the flaw? [03:02]
usagi Point it out [03:02]
Diablo-D3 usagi: read the php release changelogs for the past 5 years. [03:02]
usagi next! [03:03]
Diablo-D3 and also, where is php actually popular? its not in the enterprise. [03:03]
Diablo-D3 as much as I hate java, java is. [03:03]
mircea_popescu http://www.securityweek.com/working-patch-php-security-flaw-be-released-tuesday [03:03]
copumpkin :( [03:03]
mircea_popescu he has a good point lol [03:03]
mircea_popescu "On Tuesday, the PHP Group plans to release new versions of PHP in order to address the problems with a previous patch, which was intended to close a security problem." and on it goes. [03:03]
usagi Do you know what the security problem is? [03:04]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: fuckception [03:04]
Diablo-D3 oh my fucking god, people still use php with cgi? [03:04]
Diablo-D3 the fuck [03:04]
smickles usagi: just a wild guess, would that function fubar when regex special characterw were used? [03:04]
usagi Nope. [03:04]
Diablo-D3 php has a fucking fastcgi handler, jesus fucking christ [03:04]
mircea_popescu >D [03:04]
usagi “When PHP is used in a CGI-based setup (such as Apache's mod_cgid)..." [03:04]
usagi So in othr words, it does not apply to modern PHP installations [03:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.09566999 = 0.1913 BTC [+] [03:05]
Diablo-D3 usagi: go use erlang [03:05]
usagi Why? [03:05]
usagi See this is so endemic [03:05]
usagi I say, find the flaw, and you can't.. but instead of just asking, you bullshit about how the entire language is insecure [03:05]
usagi As proof you bring up the fact that they fix security holes as they are found [03:06]
usagi IIRC solaris had a security hole in sendmail until like, 6 months ago [03:06]
usagi sendmail [03:06]
usagi I guess that means we can't use unix [03:07]
Diablo-D3 usagi: the flaw is you're using that regex on user input in a function named "makealpha" [03:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 7 @ 0.5023 = 3.5161 BTC [-] [03:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 9 @ 0.5022 = 4.5198 BTC [-] [03:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 10 @ 0.5016 = 5.016 BTC [-] [03:07]
usagi You're getting warmer [03:07]
Diablo-D3 no, this is what I said near the top. [03:07]
usagi But you were wrong there. [03:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 2 @ 0.5897 = 1.1794 BTC [+] [03:08]
Diablo-D3 usagi: so explain to me, again, why you're not using strtoupper with your locale force set to a unicode one? [03:09]
usagi But anyways you mentioned Erlang [03:09]
usagi I am intrigued by their programming specificatoins [03:09]
usagi Why should I learn Erlang? [03:09]
usagi And... what about Haskell? [03:10]
usagi I've been meaning to learn Python actually, because of armory [03:10]
Diablo-D3 [07:56:36] $r = preg_replace('/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/i', '', $s); [03:10]
Diablo-D3 why are you using ^ anyhow? [03:10]
Diablo-D3 haskell is shit [03:10]
copumpkin replace all nonalphanumeric with empty [03:10]
Diablo-D3 copumpkin: thats not what ^ means. [03:10]
copumpkin in a character class it is [03:11]
usagi ^ means everything except [03:11]
usagi in this case [03:11]
Diablo-D3 yes, ^ in the set negates the set [03:11]
usagi Well I will show you the solution [03:11]
usagi since I gotta go [03:11]
copumpkin cool [03:11]
Diablo-D3 I can very easily produce a string that will produce an empty string with that regex [03:12]
usagi function makealpha($s){ [03:12]
usagi $r = substr($s, 0, 1024); [03:12]
usagi $r = preg_replace('/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/i', '', $r); [03:12]
usagi return ($r); } [03:12]
Diablo-D3 usagi: you're giving a shit about string size on a dynamic language? [03:12]
usagi lol theres a buffer overflow in preg_replace [03:12]
usagi it will crash the system and maybe worse [03:13]
Diablo-D3 um, dude [03:13]
* copumpkin sighs :) [03:13]
Diablo-D3 if there is a buffer overflow in preg_replace [03:13]
Diablo-D3 you dont fix it in YOUR code [03:13]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [03:13]
Diablo-D3 you fix it upstream [03:13]
mircea_popescu he wants to know why php is insecure [03:13]
Diablo-D3 fucking moron [03:13]
Diablo-D3 learn to code [03:13]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yeah no fucking shit [03:13]
Diablo-D3 he was sitting on one [03:13]
mircea_popescu for the record : [03:13]
Diablo-D3 usagi: fuck you dude, learn to code [03:13]
copumpkin now exploit it! [03:13]
nefario mircea_popescu: dont you use php? [03:13]
mircea_popescu there WAS A buffer overlfow in php preg replace cca 2005 [03:13]
* copumpkin is teh mast0r expl0it0r [03:13]
mircea_popescu i doubt it very much it's still there. [03:13]
usagi I just showed you a) you don't know what the insecurities are b) you don't know how to fix them [03:13]
usagi I'm not the one that needs ot learn to code bro [03:14]
Diablo-D3 usagi: you didnt show me anything [03:14]
mircea_popescu nefario sure, i have wordpress [03:14]
Diablo-D3 _I dont use php because its not secure_ [03:14]
Diablo-D3 that solves 100% of the issue. [03:14]
nefario whats mpex coded in? [03:14]
usagi Yeah and thats another thing, mpex is php [03:14]
copumpkin usagi: admittedly, asking for idiosyncrasies of particular versions of a specific language isn't exactly testing our security knowledge :) [03:14]
usagi lol [03:14]
Diablo-D3 does perl have the same problem? no. does ruby? no. does java? no. [03:14]
Diablo-D3 does python? probably not. [03:14]
usagi I was just trolling diablo [03:14]
smickles lol, java has it's own problems [03:14]
mircea_popescu java surely. [03:14]
nefario Diablo-D3: all those languages have their own issues [03:14]
Diablo-D3 nefario: yes, but not a core language feautre having a buffer overflow. [03:15]
nefario mpex is coded in Java? [03:15]
Diablo-D3 thats something only php could do. [03:15]
copumpkin mpex is coded in malbolge [03:15]
nefario C C++ [03:15]
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mircea_popescu lol. the public face is php. mpex actually runs on lisp. [03:15]
copumpkin w00t [03:15]
mircea_popescu you knew this [03:15]
copumpkin nope, I knew that mpoe did [03:15]
nefario buffer overflow is a core feature of C C++ [03:15]
copumpkin :) [03:15]
mircea_popescu copumpkin well doh [03:15]
nefario mircea_popescu: you use lisp? [03:15]
usagi There were still holes in malloc and free being used until early this year IIRC [03:15]
copumpkin lithp [03:16]
nefario like emacs lisp? [03:16]
copumpkin emacs lisp has shitty scoping [03:16]
copumpkin don't use it! [03:16]
copumpkin tell RMS to eat more toe junk [03:16]
nefario will do [03:16]
nefario but don't know if he'll hear me [03:16]
mircea_popescu lmao [03:16]
nefario guy has hearing problems [03:16]
nefario last time I tried talking to him [03:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 4 @ 0.059 = 0.236 BTC [-] [03:16]
mircea_popescu attack him with a cactus. [03:16]
copumpkin don't buy him a parrot [03:17]
nefario he started shouting at me [03:17]
nefario mircea_popescu: which version of lisp? [03:17]
copumpkin my colleague saw him on the subway home this evening [03:17]
usagi lisp? [03:17]
mircea_popescu nefario i haven't released that sort of details. [03:17]
* Diablo-D3 goes to bed [03:17]
Diablo-D3 night all [03:17]
usagi That explains everything. [03:17]
smickles nn [03:17]
usagi I get it now [03:17]
* copumpkin snuggles with Diablo-D3 [03:17]
usagi mircea is a lisp programmer :) [03:17]
mircea_popescu usagi nope, i don't code. [03:17]
nefario mircea_popescu hired a lisp programmer? [03:18]
nefario where ever did you find one? [03:18]
mircea_popescu i know people. [03:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.62869 = 1.8861 BTC [+] [03:18]
usagi Is mpex really written in lisp? [03:18]
nefario I know people too, and none of them use lisp professionally [03:18]
nefario yes [03:18]
nefario apparently [03:18]
mircea_popescu there's not so many of them,. [03:18]
usagi thats pretty sad lol [03:18]
usagi No wonder he can't maintain it [03:19]
smickles ? [03:19]
mircea_popescu usagi are you a little nuts, srslty now. [03:19]
mircea_popescu the site was never down. ever. wtf are you on about. [03:19]
nefario usagi: lisp in and of itself is not a problem [03:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.00040166 = 3.7519 BTC [+] [03:19]
usagi No it's that no one knows it [03:19]
nefario mircea_popescu: you need people to use the site to notice its down [03:19]
mircea_popescu gah, again with the shit. [03:19]
mircea_popescu get some uysers, then we can talk nefario [03:20]
mircea_popescu srsly now. [03:20]
nefario I almost developed some respect for mircea_popescu [03:20]
usagi If I had 3 bids and one of them was lisp I could tell you what the most expensive bid was without even looking [03:20]
nefario on hearing it was in lisp [03:20]
nefario but he doesn't code it himself [03:20]
mircea_popescu that's possibly the worst criteria to decide who to respect. [03:20]
nefario so respect lost [03:20]
nefario well [03:20]
usagi Programming in lisp is a lot like programming in 8088 assembly language. [03:20]
nefario never gained [03:20]
mircea_popescu you should respect me because you had a market you were shitting all over for a year [03:20]
nefario no lisp is nice [03:20]
mircea_popescu and i took it from you in a few months. [03:20]
usagi You have to think like you're coding for 50 year old hardware [03:20]
copumpkin lol @ this discussion [03:20]
mircea_popescu that'd be something to respect. [03:21]
mircea_popescu and admittedly, learn a few things from. [03:21]
* smickles has an 8088 laptop [03:21]
nefario it's just the implenetations of it are no fun to use in production environments [03:21]
usagi Spoken like a true ruby evangelist nef :) [03:21]
nefario reddit started off in lisp [03:21]
nefario but they had to move to python because of threading issues [03:21]
copumpkin this is why I use haskell [03:21]
copumpkin >_> [03:21]
nefario copumpkin: respeck [03:21]
copumpkin and I don't even have to write my own STM impl [03:22]
copumpkin cause GHC already has one :D [03:22]
mircea_popescu lmao [03:22]
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copumpkin :) [03:22]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 just did it cause he's a programmer at heart, wants the challenge. [03:22]
nefario I very much enjoy playing around with lisp [03:22]
copumpkin I like challenges too [03:22]
mircea_popescu i don't. [03:22]
nefario but I leave it at that [03:22]
nefario playing [03:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+] [03:22]
nefario when you start heading towards production [03:22]
nefario you rely more on libraries etc. [03:22]
nefario good libraries are important [03:23]
copumpkin yup [03:23]
nefario list was fantastic at the start of the web [03:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [-] [03:23]
nefario when there were no libraries [03:23]
nefario only CGI [03:23]
nefario or whatever [03:23]
mircea_popescu i don't trust any libraries. [03:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1689 BTC [+] [03:23]
nefario well mircea_popescu, better throw out the GPG lib you're using and write your own [03:23]
nefario while you're at it [03:24]
nefario write your own libc if you don't trust libraries [03:24]
nefario but now days [03:24]
mircea_popescu if i were to run an exchange on it, yes, i would. [03:24]
nefario perl, ruby, python have so many great libraries [03:24]
nefario and application stacks [03:24]
nefario there is no advantage in using lisp anymore [03:25]
dub mircea_popescu has libraries, of porn [03:25]
dub !!! [03:25]
mircea_popescu lol [03:25]
mircea_popescu now those, those i trust. [03:25]
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nefario the best implementation of lisp that I've found [03:26]
usagi I'm a Java programmer. I am writing the backend for my exchange in java. [03:26]
nefario at least a free one [03:26]
nefario is clisp [03:26]
nefario ok it doesn't do threading [03:26]
copumpkin Clipse [03:26]
smickles usagi: you arn't afraid of how often java exploits seem to happen? [03:26]
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nefario but it's pretty reliable [03:26]
usagi There are exploits everywhere [03:26]
usagi Even ruby has gaping security holes all over it [03:26]
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smickles usagi: yes, but java is a pretty big target [03:27]
usagi There's nothing in any language that will prevent security holes [03:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 10 @ 0.14999999 = 1.5 BTC [+] [03:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 10 @ 0.14999999 = 1.5 BTC [+] [03:27]
copumpkin the idea is to minimize the opportunities for them [03:27]
usagi You can't mitigate security by choosing a language [03:27]
copumpkin not prevent [03:27]
nefario use brainfuck [03:27]
nefario it's only got like [03:27]
copumpkin the vast majority of security holes arise from a couple of features that many language simply omit [03:27]
mircea_popescu usagi is making an exchange ? [03:27]
usagi Security is about compartmentalization [03:27]
nefario 20 characters [03:27]
nefario how hard can it be? [03:27]
usagi rg knows what he is talking about -- he said, he runs everything in VMs [03:28]
copumpkin I know what I'm talking about, too :) [03:28]
usagi so that if a service gets compromised they can't get out of the vm [03:28]
nefario no no no [03:28]
nefario guys [03:28]
nefario youre doing it all wrong [03:28]
nefario only way to be secure [03:28]
copumpkin unplug [03:28]
nefario is to write it in CPP [03:28]
copumpkin lol [03:28]
nefario then you can ensure there are no holes in your code [03:29]
usagi Yeah mircea of coruse I am making an exchange. [03:29]
copumpkin most security bugs in the wild arise from buffer overflows or format string vulns [03:29]
mircea_popescu of course you are making an exchange ? [03:29]
copumpkin the latter of which is particularly stupid [03:29]
usagi https://hotwallet.ca/xc/orderbook.php [03:29]
copumpkin because it comes from a feature in format strings that nobody ever even uses, except for exploits [03:29]
nefario damn guys [03:29]
nefario and now Im after installing clisp [03:30]
copumpkin oh and I guess sql injections [03:30]
mircea_popescu usagi your security scheme is wrong on that site. [03:30]
nefario distracting me like that [03:30]
copumpkin all of which can be solved by language design decisions [03:30]
usagi Can you point out how it is wrong? [03:30]
nefario mircea_popescu: do you code...at all? Do you even know how? [03:30]
mircea_popescu yeah, your cert doesn't exactly match the domain [03:30]
mircea_popescu nefario sure, i can code, i'm not mentally retarded. [03:31]
mircea_popescu it just doesn't pay enough for my time. [03:31]
usagi What does the cert say [03:31]
copumpkin it's a self-signed root that doesn't match the domain [03:31]
mircea_popescu --2012-09-05 03:31:27-- https://hotwallet.ca/xc/orderbook.php [03:31]
mircea_popescu Resolving hotwallet.ca... 199.48.69.241 [03:31]
mircea_popescu Connecting to hotwallet.ca|199.48.69.241|:443... connected. [03:31]
mircea_popescu ERROR: cannot verify hotwallet.ca's certificate, issued by `/O=hotwallet/OU=hotwallet/CN=199.48.69.241': [03:31]
mircea_popescu Self-signed certificate encountered. [03:31]
mircea_popescu ERROR: certificate common name `199.48.69.241' doesn't match requested host name `hotwallet.ca'. [03:31]
copumpkin but during development, it's fairly common to not pay for a real one :) [03:31]
usagi That's my IP. [03:31]
copumpkin yeah [03:31]
usagi Beyond that [03:31]
nefario self signed cert [03:31]
nefario no biggie [03:31]
usagi buying certs opens you up to MITM attacks. [03:32]
usagi Self-signed and self-published certs are more secure than ones you buy online [03:32]
copumpkin usagi: self-signed certs defeat the purpose of the system [03:32]
usagi Yupyup they sell mitm boxes to the feds [03:32]
usagi No [03:32]
mircea_popescu so then why not jsut quote as ip ? [03:32]
usagi The point is that the communication is encrypted [03:32]
copumpkin might as well use uncertified diffie-hellman [03:32]
mircea_popescu or why not sign as domain ? [03:32]
copumpkin yeah [03:32]
copumpkin you can do that without a certificate [03:32]
copumpkin the certificate is about identity [03:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-] [03:33]
copumpkin TLS provides two features: authenticating your peer, and encryption [03:33]
copumpkin the certificates (possibly even client-side, in some systems) provide auth [03:33]
copumpkin encryption stops eavesdropping [03:33]
smickles copumpkin: i plan to self sign my cert, and publish clearsigned info so that users can verify my sig and import the cert [03:33]
mircea_popescu the point here is : either give the link as https://199.48.69.241/xc/orderbook.php or else change the cert to use the domain not the ip. [03:33]
usagi Then use 2fa [03:33]
smickles there by getting encryption and identity [03:33]
usagi Sign in with a yubikey [03:34]
copumpkin is that to me? [03:34]
usagi I'm setting it up so you can't do anything without 2fa [03:34]
copumpkin usagi: the point is, if you use a self-signed cert, someone else can pose as your site, and nobody will know [03:34]
usagi send with yubikey, etc. [03:34]
copumpkin once they pose as your site [03:34]
copumpkin they can act as a middleman and forward requests to your real site [03:34]
copumpkin and steal your info [03:34]
copumpkin or just not even bother doing that [03:35]
usagi But if I publish my own cert [03:35]
usagi then you can verify if it is me or not :) [03:35]
copumpkin sure, you'd attach it to some other notion of identity [03:35]
copumpkin but the vast majority of your users aren't going to know that [03:35]
copumpkin or bother checking [03:35]
copumpkin that's why central cert auths are worthwhile [03:35]
mircea_popescu i'd say "that's why https is useless for btc" [03:35]
usagi Now there's a scam if I ever saw one [03:36]
smickles if the user doesn't care about connecting to the real site... [03:36]
copumpkin I might go out of my way to add your cert to my trusted set [03:36]
usagi 100 dollars for .... nothing [03:36]
usagi brb [03:36]
copumpkin no, it isn't nothing [03:36]
copumpkin also, even if you do self-sign [03:36]
copumpkin don't just use the root directly [03:36]
copumpkin store the root somewhere else, and have it sign a sub-cert [03:36]
copumpkin and then make the site use the sub-cert [03:36]
chaang-noi usagi is yarr jumping to a differnt ponzi and is the 1% for yarr garanteed each day? [03:36]
mircea_popescu this is a good ideea, tho in general https is still useless. [03:36]
chaang-noi like if i get it, will you be sure i get 1% each day other than sunday? [03:37]
smickles what's wrong with sunday? [03:37]
mircea_popescu no tits on sunday. [03:37]
chaang-noi yarr never paid on sunday [03:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.003393 = 0.1018 BTC [+] [03:38]
mircea_popescu incidentally : i have no ideea how people imagine those cert scams make any money [03:40]
mircea_popescu what with only allowing people that pay to have centralised certificates. [03:41]
mircea_popescu it should be free and they should recoup costs from advertising or something. [03:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 200 @ 0.1042999 = 20.86 BTC [+] [03:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 10 @ 0.94230769 = 9.4231 BTC [+] [03:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.75 = 6.75 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 6 @ 0.76 = 4.56 BTC [+] [03:45]
nefario gnight girls [03:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+] [03:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 250 @ 0.095 = 23.75 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 75 @ 0.1 = 7.5 BTC [+] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-] [03:50]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.76 = 1.52 BTC [+] [03:52]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 823 @ 0.90562136 = 745.3264 BTC [-] [03:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [03:52]
mircea_popescu In case it's not clear to the dimwit collectivists, the "creditors who essentially have an open and shut case when it comes to a lawsuit" are we who have USD held by BitFloor, not the magical internetnerd token owners. [03:53]
mircea_popescu the bitfloor thread is really great. [03:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [CHEAPERINBITCOINS-STOCKS] 1 @ 0.28999 BTC [+] [03:54]
usagi goat; nope, YARR is not jumping to a different ponzi. [03:55]
usagi As for the 1%, that part of the contract doesn't change; it's a pass-thru. Kind of like how tygrr.bond-pi stopped paying interest when pirate did [03:56]
usagi I wonder what the market will price it at this timre [03:56]
usagi Oh the other issue is, Nefario hasn't approved (or disapproved) of it yet [03:57]
usagi It might not list for a while [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1.0635 = 4.254 BTC [+] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.063 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 20 @ 1.05 = 21 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.02 = 10.2 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 20 @ 1.00001 = 20.0002 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 15 @ 1.00000003 = 15 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.00000002 = 10 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 65 @ 0.31 = 20.15 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 100 @ 0.32 = 32 BTC [+] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 19 @ 1 = 19 BTC [-] [03:58]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7SsavHX6tc let us all take a moment to review this [03:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 100 @ 0.311 = 31.1 BTC [+] [03:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 100 @ 0.32 = 32 BTC [+] [03:59]
usagi I hope that wasn't you sellin YARR, goat [04:00]
mircea_popescu selling yarr to buy ppt yay [04:02]
chaang-noi :) [04:03]
chaang-noi i was not selling yarr [04:03]
usagi So um now that I am back [04:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+] [04:05]
usagi Mircea, you said my site's security was bad or something? what did you see [04:05]
mircea_popescu i said you should either sign with the domain name or else quote the link with the ip in it [04:06]
usagi oh right [04:06]
mircea_popescu and copumpkin gave you the very useful advice of not signing with the root [04:06]
mircea_popescu which i wouldn't have bothered, cause you frankly aren;t worth it. [04:06]
usagi What do you think of the actual site? [04:06]
mircea_popescu i didn't go further than that. [04:06]
usagi So you don't actually have any problem with the site. Ok cool, I'll quote you on that ;) [04:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+] [04:07]
usagi Mircea said he cannot see any security flaws or problems with my site ^^ [04:07]
usagi Yay [04:07]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09567 BTC [+] [04:35]
mircea_popescu ahahaha this takes the cake : ppl wanting to do a 75k btc ipo on glbse for a bankrupt company [04:36]
mircea_popescu it used to make ~2k a year before going bust, so this would be a P/E of ... 33 [04:36]
mircea_popescu satoshi dice ipoing at a P/E of 10 was however much too expensive in the oppinion of the same financial wizards. [04:37]
mircea_popescu i guess evoorhees should bankrupt first, then it'll be also a great ipo. buncha idiots these people. [04:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [04:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.0099998 = 0.03 BTC [-] [04:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [+] [04:39]
chaang-noi why are people buying tygrr bot!!!! [04:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] [04:39]
chaang-noi og fuck,,,, [04:40]
usagi Are you planning on buying it back goat? [04:40]
chaang-noi at .91 or 1btc if bitcoincia pays out [04:40]
chaang-noi i ahve bids at .91 [04:40]
chaang-noi its mostly dead [04:40]
mircea_popescu lol [04:40]
usagi Then let the market bleed into your .91 [04:40]
chaang-noi i have asked nefario to make a large flashing red sign saying dont buy it [04:40]
chaang-noi he wont [04:40]
chaang-noi well, i want to protect and make aware people trusting me assets... [04:41]
usagi But you are waiting for bitcoinina [04:41]
usagi So saying don't buy it could skew the market.. people mightg sell out, you'd buy up all the shares on the cheap etc [04:41]
usagi Who is to say that someone out there doesn't know something and is not selling under 1? [04:41]
usagi maybe pc is the one buying [04:42]
chaang-noi there is no way it should be wroth more than 1 btc ever [04:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00040242 = 0.6841 BTC [+] [04:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13659 @ 0.0004018 = 5.4882 BTC [-] [04:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5241 @ 0.00040048 = 2.0989 BTC [-] [04:42]
chaang-noi assbot> [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+] [04:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4784 @ 0.00040302 = 1.928 BTC [+] [04:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40158 @ 0.00040326 = 16.1941 BTC [+] [04:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.559 BTC [-] [04:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1042889 BTC [-] [04:47]
BTC-Mining rah... [04:50]
BTC-Mining I keep getting undercut by 1 satoshi on everything almost instantly [04:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9867 @ 0.00086192 = 8.5046 BTC [+] [04:53]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11793 @ 0.00086378 = 10.1866 BTC [+] [04:54]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5465 @ 0.00085631 = 4.6797 BTC [-] [05:01]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1716 @ 0.00085578 = 1.4685 BTC [-] [05:01]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8300 @ 0.00084532 = 7.0162 BTC [-] [05:01]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6519 @ 0.00081485 = 5.312 BTC [-] [05:01]
chaang-noi sorry BTC-Mining :) [05:01]
chaang-noi just kidding :) [05:02]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12800 @ 0.00081485 = 10.4301 BTC [-] [05:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 3 @ 0.14999999 = 0.45 BTC [+] [05:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-] [05:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [+] [05:11]
BTC-Mining Yeah, I'll need to make a bot [05:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 592 @ 0.90552673 = 536.0718 BTC [-] [05:11]
mircea_popescu this should be the official popcoin girl http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134681126871.jpg [05:14]
dub nsfw btw [05:17]
dub (thanks) [05:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104285 BTC [-] [05:17]
mircea_popescu yee [05:18]
BTC-Mining The link or mircea? [05:19]
BTC-Mining xD [05:19]
mircea_popescu are you kidding ? i'm very safe for work [05:20]
BTC-Mining yes I'm kidding [05:22]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHB1FN4o8VQ [05:22]
mircea_popescu so there's some dumbass scam that's being spimvertised. [05:22]
mircea_popescu and this idiot is doing "a review" which consists of spending 20 minutes saying he's gonna do the same thing cause it works well. [05:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 75 @ 0.01485 = 1.1138 BTC [-] [05:23]
mircea_popescu considering the sort of shit that errupts every time money meets internet, i would say BTC is way ahead of the curve. [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00040189 = 8.3593 BTC [-] [05:24]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 40 @ 0.01481 = 0.5924 BTC [-] [05:27]
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BTC-Mining Wait what? You mean the classic "Buy my 20$ book to learn how to make 20$s from people!" stupidity? [05:28]
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mircea_popescu yes. [05:28]
mircea_popescu it's a small majority of internet monyz. [05:28]
mircea_popescu actually i been half waiting to see the first btc shit in long page format with yellow highlights tbh [05:29]
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mircea_popescu and with a box thing [05:29]
BTC-Mining small majorities are the best [05:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 8 @ 0.7299 = 5.8392 BTC [+] [05:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+] [05:29]
mircea_popescu that bitfloor thing can't help creating some decent memes. [05:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 10 @ 0.96153846 = 9.6154 BTC [+] [05:29]
BTC-Mining About those long page with yellow and red highlights (with the obligated traditional blue background and big red or golden "Buy Now" button at the bottom) [05:31]
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mircea_popescu yea [05:32]
BTC-Mining Did you know that 0.001% of them are legit? Pay 100 000 x 100$ bi-daily subscription and find out the one which actually provide hepful financial advise! [05:33]
BTC-Mining Or for a better deal, just buy Finances for Dummies [05:33]
BTC-Mining Your credit rating will thank you. [05:33]
dub holy shit [05:33]
dub I love this 1nject0r guy [05:33]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining it's really a very sad subculture. [05:34]
mircea_popescu dub he is pretty funny [05:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 15 @ 0.73 = 10.95 BTC [+] [05:34]
BTC-Mining You mean that 8 years old kid who think he has hacked a website by loading an error page? [05:34]
BTC-Mining I haven't heard of him, sorry [05:35]
dub still smarter than 90% of bitcointalk [05:35]
mircea_popescu lol. sad, but true. [05:36]
mircea_popescu i am very curious which will be the 1st bitcoin service to reach a 5 year stretch w/o hacking. [05:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.79 = 3.16 BTC [+] [05:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00040236 = 3.581 BTC [+] [05:37]
BTC-Mining Might be MtGox [05:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 6 @ 0.055 = 0.33 BTC [-] [05:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.053 BTC [-] [05:38]
mircea_popescu when was their last, may 2011 ? [05:39]
mircea_popescu no, june. [05:39]
BTC-Mining Only one to have survived a hack so far, and probably the better equipped to achieve that [05:39]
mircea_popescu well bitcoinica survived ONE hack [05:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.104275 = 0.3128 BTC [-] [05:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10428 = 0.2086 BTC [+] [05:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 29 @ 0.104285 = 3.0243 BTC [+] [05:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.104286 = 1.1471 BTC [+] [05:39]
Chaang-Noi i would bet its glbse [05:39]
BTC-Mining ... yeah I don't think that counts [05:39]
mircea_popescu incidentally.... mtgox lost 500k coins [05:40]
mircea_popescu so technically more than pirate. [05:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104286 BTC [+] [05:40]
BTC-Mining But the VOLUME [05:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 78 @ 0.1 = 7.8 BTC [+] [05:42]
BTC-Mining 500k USD, not coins... [05:42]
copumpkin where's 500k from? [05:43]
mircea_popescu nono. 500k coins. [05:43]
copumpkin that wasn't "lost" [05:43]
mircea_popescu http://www.dailytech.com/Inside+the+MegaHack+of+Bitcoin+the+Full+Story/article21942.htm [05:43]
copumpkin it was a db hack [05:43]
copumpkin those weren't real coins [05:43]
copumpkin the crash was artificial to exploit their withdrawal limits [05:43]
mircea_popescu well yeah i guess so. [05:43]
copumpkin the number was 432109.87654321 [05:43]
copumpkin :D [05:43]
mircea_popescu lol [05:43]
copumpkin I think the official statement is that the guy made off with 2000 coins or so [05:44]
copumpkin which isn't so bad [05:44]
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copumpkin assuming they aren't downplaying it, which they probably are :) [05:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00040326 = 4.8391 BTC [+] [05:44]
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mircea_popescu no [05:45]
mircea_popescu initally was claimed 25k [05:45]
mircea_popescu then it was something like 1k usd worth of bitcoins [05:45]
mircea_popescu at a pricer of 0.01 this is 100k [05:45]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BTCS] 500 @ 0.011 = 5.5 BTC [+] [05:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.139 = 0.695 BTC [+] [05:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1399999 BTC [+] [05:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.13999999 BTC [+] [05:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00040236 = 8.2886 BTC [-] [06:04]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 2 @ 0.0811 = 0.1622 BTC [-] [06:09]
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assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1 @ 0.00999999 BTC [+] [06:10]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/topic/284-new-mtgox-hack/ nothing quite like year old drama. [06:16]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 1.098 BTC [+] [06:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 2 @ 1.0989954 = 2.198 BTC [+] [06:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7284 @ 0.00040326 = 2.9373 BTC [+] [06:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36069 @ 0.00040333 = 14.5477 BTC [+] [06:39]
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EB250 BTC-Mining: same shit, different exchange :) [11:36]
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assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-] [11:36]
mircea_popescu drama ? [11:40]
BTC-Mining II was just saying [11:40]
BTC-Mining [04:03] For all we know, all those trading websites were made by the same guy who is completly hilarious from making the same "mistake" every time yet keep getting funds from everyone every time. [11:40]
BTC-Mining [04:07] "Oh guys, I'm sorry, I was (reusing passwords because it smartly saves me time/didn't use a cold wallet because it's stupid waste even if it caused plenty of others losses before me/didn't implement any actual security practice because heck, it's completly non-convential in the financial market to have those right?). All the funds were stolen. I still have a balance [11:40]
BTC-Mining in BTC/USD but there's no way I'm returning that either. Thanks, bye." [11:40]
mircea_popescu ya. and his name is alberto ? [11:41]
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BTC-Mining You mean BDT? I was thinking bitfloor currently... [11:41]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7296 @ 0.0007476 = 5.4545 BTC [+] [11:41]
BTC-Mining BDT hasn't officially absconded from responsibility to anything. [11:41]
BTC-Mining They claim no hack so far... [11:42]
BTC-Mining But they found a security issue they had to correct before reopening. [11:42]
BTC-Mining (or so it is claimed) [11:42]
mircea_popescu actually, they lost 4k [11:43]
mircea_popescu or thereabouts. [11:43]
BTC-Mining Really? Ouch. Link? [11:43]
mircea_popescu well doh you missed half the drama ? [11:43]
BTC-Mining Or is that rumors? [11:43]
BTC-Mining I haven't read it yet, so unless you can point it out... [11:43]
mircea_popescu Jonathan Ryan Owens locked Rebate, Zip.A, Alberto & BDT thread [11:43]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101109.0 [11:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 300 @ 0.00999999 = 3 BTC [+] [11:44]
BTC-Mining >.> [11:46]
BTC-Mining Is that the same Alberto and is there any official statement they lost 4k BTC? [11:46]
mircea_popescu welll, people don't seem to be making official statements much. [11:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 4 @ 0.91 = 3.64 BTC [-] [11:49]
mircea_popescu the figure comes from reddit, [11:49]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/yb89v/bitdaytradecom_operator_has_already_lost_4000btc/ [11:49]
mircea_popescu kronos.io did launch, it was online for a few days then it closed. seems to me this is credible. [11:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.79999999 BTC [+] [11:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+] [11:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+] [11:51]
mircea_popescu Forum software was compromised using a 0day exploit in SMF. Perpetrator had administrative access since September 3rd, which went unnoticed until September 9th, when they inserted the CosbyCoin defacement JavaScript. [11:53]
mircea_popescu who was telling me i should use smf ? [11:53]
BTC-Mining oh, the operator lost 4k in the past with Kronos... [11:53]
mircea_popescu well that past couldn't be very long could it ? [11:54]
BTC-Mining Indeed. We shall see. [11:54]
BTC-Mining Now I'll tell all my friend I have a new drama show called "Bitcoin". [11:55]
BTC-Mining Full of unrealistic scenarios and bitching. [11:55]
mircea_popescu lol [11:57]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11704 @ 0.0007476 = 8.7499 BTC [+] [11:59]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13096 @ 0.00074876 = 9.8058 BTC [+] [11:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1754 @ 0.0003997 = 0.7011 BTC [-] [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00039967 = 5.8352 BTC [-] [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17502 @ 0.00039964 = 6.9945 BTC [-] [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4244 @ 0.000399 = 1.6934 BTC [-] [12:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5104 @ 0.00074876 = 3.8217 BTC [+] [12:16]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10600 @ 0.00075113 = 7.962 BTC [+] [12:16]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4296 @ 0.00081 = 3.4798 BTC [+] [12:16]
BTC-Mining well off I go [12:26]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7999 BTC [-] [12:29]
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Chaang-Noi bye btc-mining [12:35]
DeaDTerra morning :) [12:37]
Chaang-Noi morning [12:38]
Chaang-Noi deadt, want to buy back all that pirate debt? lol [12:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2794 @ 0.0004008 = 1.1198 BTC [+] [12:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12431 @ 0.00040333 = 5.0138 BTC [+] [12:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00040427 = 4.2448 BTC [+] [12:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.0004044 = 4.0844 BTC [+] [12:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16244 @ 0.0004048 = 6.5756 BTC [+] [12:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00040414 = 5.2538 BTC [-] [12:44]
DeaDTerra ehm no it's cool xD [12:44]
DeaDTerra What will come of TyGrr.Tech btw? [12:45]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9646 @ 0.00074033 = 7.1412 BTC [-] [12:48]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5369 @ 0.00072379 = 3.886 BTC [-] [12:48]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9300 @ 0.00070635 = 6.5691 BTC [-] [12:48]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3785 @ 0.00070427 = 2.6657 BTC [-] [12:48]
Chaang-Noi right now plan is to sell off hardware [12:50]
Chaang-Noi i have the rigs listed [12:51]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: why, what happened? [12:52]
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DeaDTerra Okay :) [12:54]
DeaDTerra each share can be traded for $15 right? [12:55]
Chaang-Noi what? [12:55]
Chaang-Noi no, i highly doubt the hardware is worth that much [12:55]
DeaDTerra hm seems to be gone [12:55]
Chaang-Noi ? [12:56]
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DeaDTerra sorry my fault xD remembered incorrectly [12:57]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.13 = 1.17 BTC [-] [13:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.72999999 BTC [-] [13:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [13:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16746 @ 0.00040414 = 6.7677 BTC [-] [13:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.000399 = 9.8154 BTC [-] [13:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [13:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1156 @ 0.000399 = 0.4612 BTC [-] [13:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 244 @ 0.00039865 = 0.0973 BTC [-] [13:27]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: why not just sell the gpu hardware and buy an asic rig? [13:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [+] [13:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.1042889 = 0.8343 BTC [+] [13:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1042889 = 1.0429 BTC [+] [13:38]
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Chaang-Noi nefario how be the legalization going? [13:43]
nefario I think I remember saying nothing will be happening until next week [13:44]
kakobrekla mornin [13:44]
Chaang-Noi lol, if i could read everything everyone writes [13:44]
nefario Im waiting to get some documents [13:44]
Chaang-Noi morning [13:44]
nefario wont have them until saturday [13:44]
Chaang-Noi okay, good luck i guess [13:44]
nefario on that comment about ID [13:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [-] [13:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 4 @ 1.03 = 4.12 BTC [-] [13:58]
Chaang-Noi anyone have an BDT I can borrow? [14:01]
Chaang-Noi any* [14:01]
Chaang-Noi ill pay double dividends [14:01]
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kakobrekla Chaang-Noi, speculating for a crash? [14:04]
Chaang-Noi if i were to speculat yeah... [14:05]
Chaang-Noi can i borrow? [14:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00039943 = 21.2497 BTC [+] [14:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [14:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [+] [14:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 3 @ 0.07999999 = 0.24 BTC [-] [14:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 16 @ 0.08 = 1.28 BTC [+] [14:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 6 @ 0.0899999 = 0.54 BTC [+] [14:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 10 @ 0.0923 = 0.923 BTC [+] [14:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 15 @ 0.0925 = 1.3875 BTC [+] [14:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 5 @ 0.99999 = 5 BTC [-] [14:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-] [14:41]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2500 @ 0.00081 = 2.025 BTC [+] [14:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+] [14:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 150 @ 0.00999999 = 1.5 BTC [+] [14:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.09567 = 0.574 BTC [+] [14:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [-] [14:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 4 @ 0.0575001 = 0.23 BTC [-] [14:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 10 @ 0.0575 = 0.575 BTC [-] [14:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 180 @ 0.055 = 9.9 BTC [-] [14:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 9 @ 0.052 = 0.468 BTC [-] [14:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19953 @ 0.00039865 = 7.9543 BTC [-] [15:03]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [-] [15:05]
Chaang-Noi hi, who is around? [15:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 11 @ 0.11 = 1.21 BTC [-] [15:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 10 @ 0.1072 = 1.072 BTC [-] [15:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.79 = 5.53 BTC [-] [15:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25016 @ 0.00039865 = 9.9726 BTC [-] [15:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29984 @ 0.00039826 = 11.9414 BTC [-] [15:14]
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kakobrekla Chaang-Noi ? [15:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [+] [15:14]
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Chaang-Noi hi kakobrekla, false alarm :) [15:15]
Chaang-Noi sorry mate [15:19]
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assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 2 @ 0.0091 = 0.0182 BTC [-] [15:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [GOLD] 3 @ 0.009001 = 0.027 BTC [-] [15:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 2 @ 0.00902 = 0.018 BTC [-] [15:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 4 @ 0.00910012 = 0.0364 BTC [-] [15:33]
Chaang-Noi ahh all good stuff if you really hold physical [15:34]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [-] [15:45]
Chaang-Noi if a goat@ [15:46]
Chaang-Noi was on a boat [15:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [RSM] 1 @ 0.2999 BTC [-] [15:46]
Chaang-Noi would a boat goat a moat? [15:46]
farfi This pirate situation better be over soon... peopel are losing their mind.... [15:55]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 2 @ 0.09989 = 0.1998 BTC [+] [15:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.6349 = 1.2698 BTC [+] [15:57]
DeaDTerra Looking to sell a 200 BTC BitcoinMax account anyone interested? [15:57]
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Chaang-Noi deadterra 5 solidcoins [15:59]
kakobrekla 5 solid and 1 namecoin [16:00]
Chaang-Noi more than i will ever pay [16:01]
kakobrekla so anyone chasing pirate yet [16:01]
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Chaang-Noi wait until 10th [16:02]
kakobrekla whats then [16:02]
Chaang-Noi then piles of shit will fall on mk kinny [16:02]
Chaang-Noi texas [16:02]
kakobrekla hm? [16:02]
kakobrekla i dont understand [16:02]
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Chaang-Noi people will try and make a new goatse out of pirate on the 10th [16:07]
Chaang-Noi or at least file wire fraud charges that will be the start of priates new very large asshole [16:07]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 50 @ 1.01 = 50.5 BTC [+] [16:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 40 @ 1 = 40 BTC [+] [16:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4583 @ 0.00039943 = 1.8306 BTC [+] [16:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17069 @ 0.00039979 = 6.824 BTC [+] [16:24]
Chaang-Noi i think we need a btc lets just go the fuck crazy day [16:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.78 = 7.8 BTC [+] [16:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 10 @ 0.79 = 7.9 BTC [+] [16:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 11 @ 0.73 = 8.03 BTC [+] [16:31]
Diablo-D3 lol EskimoBob is still trolling on the dmc thread [16:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00039993 = 9.8783 BTC [+] [16:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.13 = 0.39 BTC [-] [16:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC [+] [16:53]
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EB250 Diablo-D3: what do you mean by trolling? [16:55]
EB250 I read the stuff he writes and looks like the problem is not EskimoBob but you :) [16:56]
EB250 I do not have any DMC but even if half of this is true [16:57]
EB250 you have fucked up badly and looks like people are not happy with your lack of management skills [16:58]
Diablo-D3 EB250: he seems to think that DMC isnt already moving forwards [16:58]
Diablo-D3 I dont even know why hes trying to stop it [16:58]
Diablo-D3 maybe hes a shill for rg [16:58]
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rg i paid him to do it [16:59]
Diablo-D3 I KNEW IT [16:59]
EB250 how much? [16:59]
rg as if id pay that chump for anything [16:59]
rg hes the only one person i have /ignore'd [16:59]
Diablo-D3 rg: nice [16:59]
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Diablo-D3 rg: so I wonder how well this is going to go [17:12]
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rg im imagining pretty slow [17:13]
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Diablo-D3 well, Ill be the only one selling high end dedis for btc [17:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] [17:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.799 BTC [+] [17:15]
DeaDTerra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66FUc61MvU [17:16]
Chaang-Noi lol who keeps buying that shit [17:16]
Diablo-D3 buying what, giga? [17:17]
Diablo-D3 who knows [17:17]
Diablo-D3 its massively overpriced [17:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] [17:17]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.09999 = 0.9999 BTC [-] [17:18]
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Chaang-Noi lol i sold ltcmining and bond p [17:18]
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Diablo-D3 hey guys [17:22]
Diablo-D3 who is bitfloor? [17:22]
Diablo-D3 because Ive never heard of them [17:22]
Diablo-D3 and they're claiming 24k btc was stolen [17:22]
Diablo-D3 and I _really_ doubt that [17:22]
JWU_42 Bitfloor is legit [17:23]
JWU_42 Roman is a decent guy - maybe not a security expert though... [17:23]
Diablo-D3 he needs to be beat then [17:24]
Diablo-D3 who the fuck puts 24k btc in a hot wallet [17:24]
rg it wasnt [17:26]
rg they snagged an old backup of the wallet [17:26]
Diablo-D3 but... [17:26]
Diablo-D3 um [17:26]
rg why dont you read the forum post before you continue [17:26]
Diablo-D3 why wasnt the backup encrypted? [17:26]
DeaDTerra it's all explained in the post :) [17:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.559 BTC [-] [17:27]
Diablo-D3 I didnt see the thread [17:27]
Diablo-D3 just the news picking it up [17:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.74 = 7.4 BTC [+] [17:28]
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Diablo-D3 this whole clusterfuck makes my head hurt [17:28]
Diablo-D3 why the fuck dont people take basic precautions [17:29]
Diablo-D3 rg: back me up here and tell me Im not crazy [17:29]
Chaang-Noi are you guys talking to d3? [17:29]
Chaang-Noi only he could be that stupid [17:29]
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rg Diablo-D3: everyone makes mistakes [17:30]
rg $252k mistakes [17:31]
rg :) [17:31]
Diablo-D3 not with that much money [17:31]
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Diablo-D3 and will someone just kickban goat already? [17:31]
Diablo-D3 he doesnt belong in here [17:31]
blazing whats going on [17:31]
rg umm [17:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.075 BTC [+] [17:31]
blazing goats a mad cunt [17:31]
rg its a public channel [17:31]
blazing dont kick him [17:31]
rg he has as much right to beh ere as you [17:31]
Chaang-Noi lol so it is d3 haha [17:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.147 = 0.294 BTC [+] [17:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.1497889 = 0.4494 BTC [+] [17:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.075 BTC [+] [17:32]
Diablo-D3 rg: yes, but at least I dont scam investors [17:32]
Chaang-Noi i will let d3 be d3 and will sleep, night everyone :) [17:32]
rg he didn't intentionally scam anyone [17:32]
rg pirate scammed him [17:33]
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Diablo-D3 no, I meant his mining shit [17:33]
rg oh i dont know anything about that [17:33]
rg so i wont comment [17:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 23 @ 0.00445 = 0.1024 BTC [-] [17:33]
Diablo-D3 neither do I, I just remember people bitching about it [17:33]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.74 = 2.22 BTC [+] [17:41]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9000 @ 0.00080701 = 7.2631 BTC [-] [17:43]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5100 @ 0.00080701 = 4.1158 BTC [-] [17:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 31 @ 0.96153846 = 29.8077 BTC [+] [17:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 19 @ 0.98076923 = 18.6346 BTC [+] [17:48]
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EskimoBob "Diablo-D3 | rg: yes, but at least I dont scam investors " No shit! This is exactly what you did with DMC [17:55]
EskimoBob LOL [17:55]
EskimoBob amazing [17:55]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob: okay, so, if I "scammed investors" then why havent I bought my own caribbean island yet [17:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 6 @ 0.749 = 4.494 BTC [+] [17:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+] [17:58]
EskimoBob buy your logic, or rather lack of it, every scammer has a island. No wonder DMC is worth nothing ... LOL [18:00]
EskimoBob you are amazingly stupid man. Honestly. [18:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00040094 = 3.5283 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00040398 = 7.9584 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9656 @ 0.0004048 = 3.9087 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00040503 = 7.5336 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 893 @ 0.00040503 = 0.3617 BTC [+] [18:01]
Diablo-D3 Im stupid because Im making fun of you? thats not quite how it works [18:01]
Diablo-D3 you seriously think pirate and that bitcoinica guy own an island [18:01]
Diablo-D3 you're pathetic [18:01]
EskimoBob let me quote you your own stupidity "Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: okay, so, if I "scammed investors" then why havent I bought my own caribbean island yet " [18:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.053 = 0.53 BTC [-] [18:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 7 @ 0.05110001 = 0.3577 BTC [-] [18:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.0361011 = 0.1805 BTC [-] [18:03]
exahash fyi - there are lots of islands that arent't that expensive [18:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 250 @ 0.036101 = 9.0253 BTC [-] [18:03]
exahash http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands?forsale_start=1&forsale_end=2 [18:03]
exahash :) [18:03]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13000 @ 0.00080386 = 10.4502 BTC [-] [18:04]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1228 @ 0.00080701 = 0.991 BTC [+] [18:04]
EskimoBob exahash: he wasted the BTC on who know what. There is nothing left to bu a island ... LOL ! [18:04]
EskimoBob !pl DMC 1@0.85 [18:05]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [18:05]
assbot DMC [1@0.85BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.813899 BTC. Total: -0.78754086 BTC. (-92.7%) [18:05]
EskimoBob !pl DMC 1@0.5 [18:05]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [18:05]
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assbot DMC [1@0.5BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.463899 BTC. Total: -0.43754086 BTC. (-87.5%) [18:05]
EskimoBob this is pathetic, Diablo-D3! [18:05]
mircea_popescu how do you know that's not a scam exahash ? [18:06]
EskimoBob even TYgr crap is worth more :) [18:06]
exahash @mircea_popescu - what? the islands site? [18:06]
EskimoBob not you again, mircea_popescu [18:06]
mircea_popescu exahash yea [18:06]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob remind me, what are you doing here again ? [18:07]
exahash that sites been around for over 10 years. I don't "know" 100% its not scam, as I have not bought an island through them. [18:08]
exahash its basically an mls site for islands instead of houses [18:08]
mircea_popescu hm [18:08]
exahash I have read the magazine that goes with it [18:08]
exahash pretty sure they're legit, and have nothing to do with bitcoin [18:08]
mircea_popescu i never saw it before, sounded like a silly internet scam domain [18:08]
EskimoBob like mpex? [18:09]
mircea_popescu 6 acres / 2.53 ha | Freehold | Private Island [18:09]
mircea_popescu USD 29,900 [18:09]
mircea_popescu this is pretty decent. [18:09]
exahash look at the higher priced ones :-) [18:10]
mircea_popescu srsly... why i want more than 6 acres ? [18:10]
mircea_popescu what am i doing, raising cattle ? [18:10]
mircea_popescu six women, six acres. [18:10]
mircea_popescu and a mule. [18:10]
exahash privacy [18:10]
exahash so they can't see your house from a boat? [18:10]
mircea_popescu let them see it, what. [18:11]
exahash and protection from the ocean [18:11]
mircea_popescu maybe they learn some new moves. [18:11]
exahash storms [18:11]
mircea_popescu i guess that's ap oint yeah... [18:11]
EskimoBob no ciuciu, so he and his friends can go to the beach http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8df4nD_0d4c/TQi2Ee7GxeI/AAAAAAAAAHg/nW7el112MSg/s1600/1071221803-0B.jpg [18:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 4 @ 0.8601 = 3.4404 BTC [+] [18:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 4 @ 0.86 = 3.44 BTC [-] [18:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-] [18:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-] [18:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5071 @ 0.003393 = 17.2059 BTC [+] [18:14]
mircea_popescu actually it's a lot more like http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13456595538.jpg [18:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 92 @ 0.1041 = 9.5772 BTC [-] [18:15]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: we all know you got lots of shit on your page. No need to advertise it [18:15]
mircea_popescu it's just women dood. women aren't shit. [18:16]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.16889 = 0.3378 BTC [-] [18:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1689 BTC [+] [18:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1866 @ 0.00080701 = 1.5059 BTC [+] [18:28]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 17234 @ 0.0008094 = 13.9492 BTC [+] [18:28]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: GLBSE https://glbse.com || MPEx http://polimedia.us/mpex || CST https://cryptostocks.com || ICBIT https://icbit.se || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || a biased message: http://smpake.com/ || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RMjqah [18:53]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Sat Aug 25 15:12:46 2012 [18:53]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+] [19:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00039812 = 9.4354 BTC [-] [19:12]
PsychoticBoy !ticker FDBF [19:14]
assbot [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.149] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.001] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 29.69999805] [7dAvg: 0.14843927] [19:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.799 BTC [+] [19:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 23 @ 0.8 = 18.4 BTC [+] [19:18]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#6 [19:21]
mircea_popescu in the immortal words of myself, "Trying to be part of a cryptocurrency without knowing how to use gpg is like trying to be part of the 60s without knowing how to use a bong." [19:22]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABIF] 1 @ 0.99403 BTC [-] [19:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2764 @ 0.00039812 = 1.1004 BTC [-] [19:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6736 @ 0.00039797 = 2.6807 BTC [-] [19:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.795 = 1.59 BTC [-] [19:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.7945 BTC [-] [19:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 18 @ 0.79 = 14.22 BTC [-] [19:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [-] [19:35]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.058 = 0.464 BTC [-] [19:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.058 BTC [-] [19:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0575 BTC [-] [19:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.057 = 0.171 BTC [-] [19:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.0001222 BTC [-] [19:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.05555 = 0.4444 BTC [-] [19:44]
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assbot [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-] [19:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-] [19:46]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 30 @ 0.15 = 4.5 BTC [+] [19:51]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5000 @ 0.0008089 = 4.0445 BTC [-] [19:52]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11600 @ 0.0007977 = 9.2533 BTC [-] [19:52]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 24900 @ 0.00079414 = 19.7741 BTC [-] [19:52]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5511 @ 0.00079257 = 4.3679 BTC [-] [19:52]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2989 @ 0.00078855 = 2.357 BTC [-] [19:52]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 0.798 = 2.394 BTC [+] [19:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-] [19:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-] [19:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [-] [19:59]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3909 @ 0.00082042 = 3.207 BTC [+] [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 300 @ 0.00082103 = 0.2463 BTC [+] [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.1111 = 0.2222 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.101 = 1.01 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 3 @ 0.1000001 = 0.3 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 28 @ 0.10000001 = 2.8 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 17 @ 0.10000001 = 1.7 BTC [-] [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.094 = 0.188 BTC [-] [20:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0931 = 0.931 BTC [-] [20:01]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+] [20:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.391 = 1.564 BTC [-] [20:02]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 12 @ 0.3901 = 4.6812 BTC [-] [20:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] [20:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 6 @ 0.798 = 4.788 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.798 = 1.596 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [-] [20:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 10 @ 0.06100001 = 0.61 BTC [-] [20:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29164 @ 0.00039797 = 11.6064 BTC [-] [20:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 736 @ 0.00039784 = 0.2928 BTC [-] [20:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.73400001 BTC [-] [20:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.734 BTC [-] [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.3901 = 1.9505 BTC [+] [20:10]
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assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.5501 = 2.7505 BTC [-] [20:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 6 @ 0.065 = 0.39 BTC [-] [20:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.108 = 0.54 BTC [+] [20:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [LTC-MINING] 9 @ 0.65 = 5.85 BTC [-] [20:13]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.73400001 = 1.468 BTC [+] [20:15]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+] [20:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 3 @ 0.09398 = 0.2819 BTC [-] [20:37]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 900 @ 0.00082133 = 0.7392 BTC [+] [20:41]
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gabbynot anyone know how many outstanding shares of tygrr.bond-p there are? [20:43]
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Diablo-D3 gabbynot: ask glbse [20:43]
Diablo-D3 https://glbse.com/api/quantity_trading/TYGRR.BOND-P [20:44]
gabbynot thx [20:44]
Diablo-D3 wow quite a few [20:44]
gabbynot it says 38402, but there were only 27895 on last dividend payment [20:45]
gabbynot what's going on? [20:45]
Diablo-D3 people bought them after last dividend payment I guess [20:45]
rdponticelli Ask piotr_n... lol [20:46]
gabbynot something doesn't look right [20:47]
gabbynot it never jumped by that much in a week [20:47]
mircea_popescu likely swaps no ? [20:48]
rdponticelli Yea, there's quite a flame on the thread [20:48]
rdponticelli Goat says he has 40000BTC on his account [20:48]
rdponticelli So he's selling the bonds [20:48]
gabbynot ah [20:49]
mircea_popescu goat has 40k ? [20:49]
rdponticelli On pirate [20:49]
mircea_popescu o o. maybe. [20:49]
rdponticelli We can say he had [20:49]
rdponticelli Some of it was investor's [20:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.003393 = 0.0679 BTC [+] [20:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [20:53]
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gabbynot nyan.c should be worth a bundle if matthew actually pays everyone [20:56]
mircea_popescu matthew pays as in, m. n. wright ? [20:56]
gabbynot yep [20:57]
mircea_popescu i think i have some confederate bonds somewhere, i should make a glbse fund [20:57]
mircea_popescu they'll be worth quite a bit just as soon as general lee wins the war. [20:57]
gabbynot lol [20:57]
gabbynot isn't friday his deadline for the bets? [20:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 1 @ 0.09999 BTC [+] [20:58]
mircea_popescu in a sense. [21:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 15 @ 0.0001222 = 0.0018 BTC [-] [21:00]
gabbynot the forum stuff is entertaining. way better than any movie. [21:01]
mircea_popescu yep, i was sayin the same thing [21:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 30 @ 0.00024 = 0.0072 BTC [+] [21:02]
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MrWubbles Mr Supa wanted me to post this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106018.0 [21:03]
mircea_popescu whop's mrs upa [21:03]
MrWubbles mr SupaDupa [21:04]
mircea_popescu Petition to Shutdown BTC-e and have all assests given back to the tax payers [21:04]
mircea_popescu what da ?! [21:04]
mircea_popescu there's taxpayers in btc now ? [21:04]
mircea_popescu pity such weak fakedrama nao. [21:05]
mircea_popescu the forum can do better. [21:05]
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rdponticelli MrWubbles: Wasn't you the one who make a shitton hacking btc-e? [21:06]
rdponticelli :D [21:06]
MrWubbles maybe [21:06]
rdponticelli Nice night that one [21:07]
rdponticelli Entertaining [21:07]
mircea_popescu btc-e got haxt ? [21:07]
cabbagemonster hi [21:08]
rdponticelli Yea, somebody injected fake USD through LR [21:08]
copumpkin MrWubbles is full of shit, most of the time [21:08]
rdponticelli He made BTC reach 99USD [21:08]
mircea_popescu lol [21:09]
rdponticelli And MrWubbles was around, taking the credit [21:09]
cabbagemonster ereet hackers [21:10]
cabbagemonster damn thems [21:10]
mircea_popescu daNG tham all to heck! [21:11]
mircea_popescu ;;ident MrWubbles [21:11]
gribble Nick 'MrWubbles', with hostmask 'MrWubbles!~suckmywub@24.69.197.34', is not identified. [21:11]
mircea_popescu o i c. [21:11]
mircea_popescu moar cryptocurrency experts w/o gpg. [21:11]
rdponticelli It was a nice show. You could watch the consecuences of hyperinflation on fast forward [21:11]
rdponticelli :D [21:12]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1041 BTC [-] [21:24]
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pigeons oh MrWubbles is a winner [21:37]
mircea_popescu winnr.rar ? [21:38]
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pigeons winnah [21:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 39 @ 0.09 = 3.51 BTC [-] [21:40]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2500 @ 0.003393 = 8.4825 BTC [+] [21:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00039784 = 8.0762 BTC [-] [21:44]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [21:44]
gribble Best bid: 10.515, Best ask: 10.55, Bid-ask spread: 0.03500, Last trade: 10.55, 24 hour volume: 27817, 24 hour low: 10.181, 24 hour high: 10.6 [21:44]
MrWubbles win.rar [21:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 9 @ 0.32 = 2.88 BTC [+] [21:45]
mircea_popescu those .32s look like so much pain [21:46]
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rdponticelli Yea, those are the insurance [21:47]
BTC-Mining That's the guarantee on them [21:47]
mircea_popescu yep [21:49]
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BTC-Mining Chaang, Patrick, etc. [21:49]
BTC-Mining They've all been hit quite hard [21:49]
mircea_popescu yeah. [21:49]
rdponticelli The whole economy [21:50]
mircea_popescu i suppose next time mpoe-pr says x is shit they remember this and pay fucking deference. [21:50]
mircea_popescu no. the whole wannabe-economy. [21:50]
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rdponticelli Well, yes [21:50]
rdponticelli The whole embrionary economy [21:51]
mircea_popescu teh economy is sr and clubs with seals and on and on. [21:51]
mircea_popescu not some people lending fiddy bucks in the backalley. [21:51]
rdponticelli Seals is that big? [21:51]
mircea_popescu this is like confusing wall street with the bowery for chrissakes. [21:52]
rdponticelli I haven't even looked into them [21:52]
mircea_popescu they seem to be doing ok. [21:52]
mircea_popescu not implying they're au par with sr, just pulled a name. [21:52]
mircea_popescu if i said satoshi dice it'd be biased, neh ? [21:53]
rdponticelli Ok, I thought there was some order of magnitude away.... [21:53]
rdponticelli A little, maybe... [21:53]
rdponticelli :) [21:53]
mircea_popescu hard to tell how much sr makes. [21:53]
mircea_popescu if the 6k a month figure is correct then that's less than sd's last. [21:53]
mircea_popescu also hard to guess how much seals makes, but a few k might be it. [21:54]
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EskimoBob mircea_popescu: do even you believe this crap you write? [21:57]
EskimoBob is there another channel where I can see GLBSE trades and not this shit you write? [21:57]
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kakobrekla ;;topic [21:58]
gribble Bitcoin asset exchanges: GLBSE https://glbse.com || MPEx http://polimedia.us/mpex || CST https://cryptostocks.com || ICBIT https://icbit.se || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || a biased message: http://smpake.com/ || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RMjqah [21:58]
EskimoBob for fuck sake, start your own mpx-scam channel and fuck off for good [21:58]
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kakobrekla you are looking for #bitcoin-assets-trades [21:58]
kakobrekla :) [21:58]
kakobrekla or just /ignore [21:58]
EskimoBob ignore is good idea because this bull shit is not funny any more [21:58]
mircea_popescu what exactly is his problem anyway ? [21:59]
mircea_popescu dude, im not greek, simmer down. [21:59]
EskimoBob i know you are not greek. I told you this long time ago. How thick are you? [22:00]
mircea_popescu apparently your ignore is broken, too. [22:01]
usagi CPA would solve so many of this world's problems [22:01]
usagi LIke goatse spam [22:01]
usagi It's a pity that guy didn't have a contract with us. [22:01]
EskimoBob nothing wrong with my ignore, You just have not made it to the list yet [22:02]
usagi Just imagine a big bandaid over the asshole with CPA written on it. "CPA. Protecting you from goatse spam before it even begins". Hmm. I wonder if that would be a viable advertising campaign for a bus or a subway or somehthing [22:02]
EskimoBob lol usagi [22:02]
mircea_popescu have you ever done advertising on a bus or a subway or something ? [22:02]
usagi kakobrekla: /ignore who? [22:03]
usagi i just got back [22:03]
EskimoBob looking at mpex, I guess you know all about advertising. Please, mircea_popescu, amuse us [22:03]
usagi Oh him.... right, right... [22:03]
usagi I didn't notice :p [22:03]
MrWubbles hello EskimoBob Mr Supa says hi [22:03]
MrWubbles and long time [22:03]
EskimoBob who is Supa? [22:04]
mircea_popescu im guessing best be proactive about this. [22:04]
MrWubbles SupaDupaJenkins [22:04]
EskimoBob ? [22:04]
usagi eskimobob: Is he talking about glbse again? [22:04]
EskimoBob no idea who this clown is [22:04]
* #bitcoin-assets :You're not a channel operator [22:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00039934 = 0.9185 BTC [+] [22:05]
MrWubbles Mr Supa known for his work in the softmod console community as well as his Noob Guides to P2Pool [22:05]
usagi Oh poker again.. lol, thats another one... he mentions poker a lot doesn't he [22:05]
MrWubbles among various commits and pushes on git [22:06]
usagi Something about poker players making it in bitcoin [22:06]
usagi you should come on over here EskimoBob. To the mature side. *sniffs air* Aaaah, it's a beautiful day! [22:07]
usagi!*@* added to ignore list. [22:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.003393 = 1.0179 BTC [+] [22:08]
PsychoticBoy silence lol [22:11]
PsychoticBoy prob from his east european gf`s [22:11]
MrWubbles you can not shoot what you can not see [22:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [22:14]
PsychoticBoy you got cooties. bah [22:14]
PsychoticBoy !ticker FDBF [22:16]
assbot [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.149] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.001] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 26.99999857] [7dAvg: 0.14847284] [22:16]
assbot !pl [@] [] [22:17]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [22:17]
assbot DMC [1@1BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.036101 BTC. Capital gain: -0.963899 BTC. Total: -0.93754086 BTC. (-93.8%) [22:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 16 @ 0.1041 = 1.6656 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1041 BTC [-] [22:18]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [22:24]
gribble Best bid: 10.6, Best ask: 10.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 10.62, 24 hour volume: 29104, 24 hour low: 10.181, 24 hour high: 10.64499 [22:24]
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assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 13 @ 0.075 = 0.975 BTC [+] [22:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.0799 = 0.3995 BTC [+] [22:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 50 @ 0.07999999 = 4 BTC [+] [22:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 50 @ 0.0855 = 4.275 BTC [+] [22:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 20 @ 0.085989 = 1.7198 BTC [+] [22:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 7 @ 0.08699 = 0.6089 BTC [+] [22:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.087199 = 0.436 BTC [+] [22:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 18 @ 0.08899 = 1.6018 BTC [+] [22:32]
Diablo-D3 is EskimoBob drunk again? [22:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.751 = 6.759 BTC [-] [22:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 7 @ 0.75 = 5.25 BTC [-] [22:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 86 @ 0.0096 = 0.8256 BTC [+] [22:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [+] [22:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-] [22:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.7111 BTC [-] [22:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.711 = 6.399 BTC [-] [22:40]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla : twitter discards identical updates. sometimes ppl buy 1k options blocks in sucession and only one gets reported. if i add some code at the end of the twitter message will it bork your bot ? [22:44]
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kakobrekla it should not [22:47]
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kakobrekla gonna add microtime' [22:47]
kakobrekla ? [22:47]
mircea_popescu nah a 3 digit random number i was thinking [22:48]
mircea_popescu aite let's see here. [22:48]
kakobrekla well microtime makes at least some sense [22:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00039934 BTC [+] [22:49]
mircea_popescu seems fine [22:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1041 BTC [-] [22:50]
kakobrekla its preety resilient [22:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.141 BTC [-] [22:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-] [22:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.137 = 0.411 BTC [-] [22:50]
mircea_popescu eh wtf [22:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00039934 BTC [+] [22:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00039934 BTC [+] [22:54]
mircea_popescu ya ok. [22:54]
Diablo-D3 Quantum Romneyism: http://www.bash.org/?951317 [22:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.136 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.134 BTC [-] [22:57]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 http://betabeat.com/2012/09/hackers-claim-theyre-holding-mitt-romneys-tax-returns-for-bitcoin-ransom/ [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.129 = 0.516 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.12730011 = 3.9463 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.12720011 = 1.272 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.12710001 = 1.271 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.12710001 = 0.3813 BTC [-] [22:57]
mircea_popescu (via mod6 :p) [22:58]
Diablo-D3 lolwhat [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 19 @ 0.00999999 = 0.19 BTC [+] [23:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.0999 = 0.999 BTC [+] [23:00]
mod6 here's another: [23:07]
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mod6 http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/05/romney-tax-returns-hacked/ [23:07]
Diablo-D3 lol [23:07]
mircea_popescu jcpham you should be pumpkinmonster [23:08]
* jcpham is now known as pumpkinmonster [23:09]
Diablo-D3 lol [23:09]
* mircea_popescu grins [23:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.0999 = 1.998 BTC [+] [23:11]
copumpkin :O [23:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12902 @ 0.00040052 = 5.1675 BTC [+] [23:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37125 @ 0.00040067 = 14.8749 BTC [+] [23:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C010T] 750 @ 0.9068351 = 680.1263 BTC [+] [23:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11273 @ 0.00040067 = 4.5168 BTC [+] [23:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33216 @ 0.00039934 = 13.2645 BTC [-] [23:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00039926 = 1.4018 BTC [-] [23:26]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40&sign=ANY&type=RECV [23:29]
mircea_popescu lol at pirate's slow decline towards hell. [23:29]
mircea_popescu maybe there's wisdom to the ponderous way the crowd ends up doing things. [23:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3189 @ 0.00039926 = 1.2732 BTC [-] [23:30]
MrWubbles TANGO DOWN: http://bitcointalk.org [23:31]
pumpkinmonster I'm still patiently waiting mircea_popescu [23:31]
pumpkinmonster I'm not hasty with my ratings at all [23:31]
mircea_popescu pumpkinmonster yeah. [23:32]
pumpkinmonster the glass isn't half empty [23:32]
pumpkinmonster it is the wrong size container [23:32]
mircea_popescu thinking about it... as someone pointed out, not like there's that many innocent bystanders that might haven ot heard about it. [23:32]
mircea_popescu ahah say wut ? [23:32]
mircea_popescu o look! bitcointalk is down! [23:33]
mircea_popescu quick, everyone flock to http://polimedia.us/btcf/index.php [23:33]
mod6 :) [23:33]
mircea_popescu lol [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5591 @ 0.00082104 = 4.5904 BTC [-] [23:33]
pumpkinmonster glass hlaf/empty...glass half/full [23:33]
pumpkinmonster both incorrect [23:33]
pumpkinmonster container is improperly sized [23:34]
mircea_popescu it's not a half empty glass, it's a mostly full m&m ? [23:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 10 @ 0.00999999 = 0.1 BTC [+] [23:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.104 = 0.52 BTC [-] [23:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC [+] [23:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [-] [23:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.641 = 5.769 BTC [-] [23:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 40 @ 0.6 = 24 BTC [-] [23:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 9 @ 0.571 = 5.139 BTC [-] [23:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 300 @ 0.57 = 171 BTC [-] [23:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1041 BTC [+] [23:37]
BTC-Mining nope [23:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [-] [23:38]
BTC-Mining I'm waiting for the postcard [23:38]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.37899218 BTC [-] [23:40]
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mircea_popescu you ain't gettin' no postcards. [23:44]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 3 @ 0.0001222 = 0.0004 BTC [-] [23:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 2 @ 0.125 = 0.25 BTC [-] [23:54]
BTC-Mining awww... [23:54]
BTC-Mining But I wanted a postcard with pirate's avatar on an island on a longchair. With caption: "Thanks to the crew for another succesful plundering. Arrr mateys!" [23:56]
BTC-Mining I am strongly disapointed. [23:56]
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