Forum logs for 05 Feb 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jcpham i had basic units on preorder and paid with cc [00:00]
jcpham that fell apart. i called my cc company and got my money back [00:00]
jcpham rinse and repeat [00:00]
JWU_42 I iwsh i could have used a CC for my BFL pre order [00:00]
dub they took pp no? [00:00]
JWU_42 oh well - it saved some of my BTC from going down with the pirate's ship [00:01]
jcpham paypla is the same as credit card to me [00:01]
jborkl they still take pp [00:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.76450001 = 6.8805 BTC [+] [00:01]
JWU_42 dub: yeah - forgot about payPAL [00:01]
JWU_42 :/ [00:01]
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jcpham avalon's unit looks nice. if they let me pay with another method other than btc only, i'd order one [00:02]
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dub why not otc some btc with your cc via pp [00:03]
mircea_popescu dub that could be in a meme. [00:03]
dub I thought so [00:03]
JWU_42 heh [00:03]
jcpham dub i do that anyways [00:04]
dub so whats the ploblem [00:04]
jcpham why would i then spend the coins on something i may never see [00:04]
DeadWeasel dub, that owuld be impossible if you have no Wot Rating, right? [00:04]
dub oh u trollin' [00:04]
jcpham i know what happens when you send bitcoins [00:04]
mircea_popescu jcpham you wouldn't spend coins on cavity fillings ? [00:04]
dub DeadWeasel: yes, in all likelyhood [00:04]
jcpham you never see them again [00:04]
dub DeadWeasel: jcpham is WoT jesus though [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3692 @ 0.00069515 = 2.5665 BTC [+] [00:05]
DeadWeasel haha [00:05]
DeadWeasel I set it up last week, now I'm like, wtf do I with this since nobody will do business w/me. [00:05]
DeadWeasel chicken and the egg [00:05]
jcpham ;getrating jcpham [00:05]
jcpham broken ass bot [00:05]
jcpham yeah DeadWeasel I have no tips for you there. it takes time. [00:06]
DeadWeasel what kind of transactions would people consider? like tiny little ones? for what? where? [00:06]
mircea_popescu well, do you have a cc DeadWeasel ? [00:07]
DeadWeasel just linger on bitcoin-otc begging? sounds pathetic and not worth the time [00:07]
DeadWeasel yeah [00:07]
mircea_popescu aite, one sec [00:07]
jcpham i trade however seems most profitable to me [00:07]
jcpham i'm a total jew [00:07]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel https://secure.somethingawful.com/products/gift-certificate.php?product_type=register [00:08]
mircea_popescu buy me that. ill send you .5 btc. [00:08]
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jcpham i'll buy your coins with paypal -10% and sell them to someone else for cash +25% [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8158 @ 0.00069943 = 5.7059 BTC [+] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069018 = 2.9823 BTC [-] [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @ 0.00069002 = 3.1196 BTC [-] [00:08]
DeadWeasel good idea, I could do localbitcoins.com for some Wot maybe? [00:09]
DeadWeasel except they wouldn't be members [00:09]
mircea_popescu ... [00:09]
DeadWeasel this closed loop system. [00:09]
DeadWeasel i'm looking at it, mp. [00:09]
jcpham don't facilitate MP getting onto somethingawful [00:10]
jcpham worst idea ever [00:10]
mircea_popescu jcpham i am literally going to make a iama ama thread [00:10]
DeadWeasel apparently I've gotta whore myself out to get my first Wot Rating. [00:10]
dub I'm a romanian porn king: ama [00:10]
jcpham ;;rate DeadWeasel 1 apparently I've gotta whore myself out to get my first Wot Rating. [00:11]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DeadWeasel has been recorded. [00:11]
mircea_popescu dude i was gonna pop his wottery over a sa account [00:11]
DeadWeasel OMG! you busted my WoT Cherry! [00:11]
DeadWeasel thanks man [00:11]
mircea_popescu it'd have been so beautiful [00:11]
jcpham it means a lot or little [00:11]
DeadWeasel wottery, nice. [00:11]
jcpham you decide [00:11]
DeadWeasel I plan on it. [00:12]
mircea_popescu very little, jcpham is a POOR JUDGE of character [00:12]
mircea_popescu everyone knows [00:12]
dub haha [00:12]
jcpham facepalm [00:12]
mircea_popescu lol [00:12]
jborkl so, I missed the main conversation- how does jr think he is killing sd? [00:12]
j1717 jarpiain jborkl jcpham JohnGalt1337 jurov JWU42 JWU_42 [00:12]
jcpham bruce wagner got my bitcoins [00:12]
mircea_popescu jborkl power of prayer. [00:12]
DeadWeasel haha [00:12]
jborkl lol [00:12]
mircea_popescu thing is i kinda like the fucker [00:13]
jborkl I prayed to the easter bunny and the shit came true [00:13]
mircea_popescu but he gets too wrapped up ocasionally. [00:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00069002 = 4.4506 BTC [-] [00:14]
dub ssh pe41 [00:15]
dub jesus fuck [00:15]
mircea_popescu lmao [00:16]
mircea_popescu all ur box [00:16]
dub IRC + audio meeting + maintenance window, my scheduler is contended [00:16]
mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [00:16]
gribble Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 [00:16]
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mircea_popescu ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:527a1a6410a9742789ec8c9a554290ef8f777431b94d35f8e170f52a [00:17]
gribble You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 [00:17]
DeadWeasel ;;eauth DeadWeasel [00:21]
gribble Request successful for user DeadWeasel, hostmask DeadWeasel!~DeadWease@cpe-74-75-235-219.maine.res.rr.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/6D206C24463BEC07 [00:21]
mircea_popescu ;;rate DeadWeasel 1 Bought me SA account. [00:23]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DeadWeasel has been recorded. [00:24]
jcpham ;;unrate DeadWeasel [00:24]
gribble Successfully removed your rating for DeadWeasel. [00:24]
DeadWeasel aw shit [00:24]
jcpham probably best to not get him mixed up with me [00:24]
pigeons you don't wanna get mixed up with a guy like me Dottie [00:25]
pigeons I'm a loner Dottie, a rebel [00:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.76450001 BTC [+] [00:28]
mircea_popescu lol [00:29]
jurov omg discussion... if they're gonna blosk sdice, i'm proposing to block silk road too [00:30]
kakobreklaa and mpex [00:30]
kakobreklaa and gox [00:30]
jurov ya [00:30]
kakobreklaa in fact [00:30]
kakobreklaa everything that is not end user [00:30]
jcpham oooh i want to block silk road [00:30]
kakobreklaa should be banned! [00:30]
pigeons ll i dont accept any inputs without a government tax stamp [00:30]
kakobreklaa so no btc donations for the church, Luke-Jr! [00:31]
dub it'd be nice if we could just convince erik to stop being a dick [00:31]
kakobreklaa its a collective stabbing, cant outlaw the knife. [00:32]
mircea_popescu http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3532233 [00:32]
pigeons what's the name of the dice game that tries to be less destructive to the network? [00:32]
dub all he's doing is giving luke a reason to be luke [00:32]
kakobreklaa i need it for ma bread. [00:32]
mircea_popescu dude im like so cool now. [00:32]
dub fkn goons [00:32]
pigeons .title [00:33]
pigeons !title [00:33]
pigeons @title [00:33]
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DeadWeasel lovely, mp, everybody is your whore, no? [00:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.755 BTC [-] [00:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069992 = 3.0244 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00069998 = 0.2247 BTC [+] [00:37]
pigeons I am Mircea Popescu! ask me anything! Q: Who are you? [00:39]
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Luke-Jr jurov: glad to block silk road, if you know a way [00:43]
jurov orly? and what if sdice starts using another addy for every bet? [00:43]
jurov just forget it. it's uphill battle. [00:45]
Namworld My god... [00:45]
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jborkl hmm, lets make the anti-govt free to do thinkers -not be able to do what they want. No SD, no SR, no Porn ... whats left for bitcoin [00:45]
Namworld I bet they do the same thing for just about everything else... so many empty words [00:46]
dub aww mp your thread got pwned [00:46]
mircea_popescu a well, i guess they banned it. [00:46]
Namworld SA must be happy from the advertising revenue tho. [00:46]
mircea_popescu was fun while it lasted. [00:46]
dub its just moved [00:46]
dub http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25 [00:46]
mircea_popescu but i can't post ? [00:46]
dub oh [00:47]
Namworld it's the gas chamber [00:47]
Luke-Jr jurov: hopefully they won't without also stopping the DDoS [00:47]
dub Luke-Jr: why 'D'DoS? [00:48]
mircea_popescu i have no idea how their shit works, but anyway. was fun [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069821 = 3.017 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11319 @ 0.00069796 = 7.9002 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0006912 = 6.912 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6618 @ 0.00069002 = 4.5666 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9359 @ 0.00069002 = 6.4579 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18333 @ 0.00069001 = 12.65 BTC [-] [00:48]
dub seems fairly centralised in a bitcoin sense [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069967 = 3.0233 BTC [+] [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.00069998 = 3.0134 BTC [+] [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00069998 = 1.33 BTC [+] [00:51]
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Namworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141067.0 [00:53]
Namworld 696 ASICMINER shares for sale [00:53]
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dub you paid .1? [00:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11984 @ 0.00069998 = 8.3886 BTC [+] [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4898 @ 0.00069999 = 3.4286 BTC [+] [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118 @ 0.00069999 = 0.0826 BTC [+] [00:55]
Namworld yeah [00:55]
Namworld and put them up for auction at that starting price [00:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3299 = 0.6598 BTC [+] [01:00]
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mircea_popescu jcpham so you were right, it lasted 10 minutes [01:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00069998 = 10.0447 BTC [-] [01:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069011 = 2.982 BTC [-] [01:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5523 @ 0.00069001 = 3.8109 BTC [-] [01:07]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+] [01:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00069001 = 7.7281 BTC [-] [01:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069988 = 3.0242 BTC [+] [01:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14849 @ 0.00069999 = 10.3942 BTC [+] [01:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00069998 = 17.9545 BTC [-] [01:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069027 = 2.9827 BTC [-] [01:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 379 @ 0.00069001 = 0.2615 BTC [-] [01:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10935 @ 0.00069001 = 7.5453 BTC [-] [01:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3279 @ 0.00069999 = 2.2953 BTC [+] [01:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069974 = 3.0236 BTC [-] [01:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00069471 = 3.1957 BTC [-] [01:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00069018 = 2.3811 BTC [-] [01:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7590101 BTC [+] [01:45]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [01:45]
gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 8 seconds [01:45]
j1717 what wallet takes the smallest cut for afee? [01:47]
pigeons your own [01:48]
Diablo-D3 [04:34:22] Diablo-D3: there? [01:48]
Diablo-D3 yes? [01:48]
iz the default bitcoin wallet takes no cut for a fee [01:48]
mircea_popescu wallets take cuts now ?! [01:48]
pigeons mtgox charges no tx fees, they say not to use the trading account as a wallet however [01:48]
Diablo-D3 I mean, its fast, and you get a much more stable chip [01:48]
Diablo-D3 and you can fab them at sizes you cant cheaply buy fpgas [01:49]
j1717 bitcoin qt just charged me .0045 fee [01:49]
pigeons mircea_popescu: that was originally gavin's company's whole business model, something like 1%-5% fees for strongcoin web wallet [01:49]
iz j1717: those are transaction fees, and happen whenver you do transactions anywhere with bitcoin [01:50]
pigeons j1717: well that fee was determined necessary to be accepted. perhaps you could manually create the tx and hope it still gets included with no fee, but comeone [01:50]
pigeons j1717: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees [01:50]
iz (unless you use an old or hacked client to do 0 fee transactions, which will take forever to actually get accepted [01:50]
pigeons yeah 1% on strongcoin [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 871 @ 0.00069018 = 0.6011 BTC [-] [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1329 @ 0.00069001 = 0.917 BTC [-] [01:53]
pigeons https://www.strongcoin.com/en/blog/frequently_asked_questions How secure are your servers ? StrongCoin is hosted on Heroku [01:54]
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mircea_popescu wait. what ?! [02:03]
mircea_popescu gavin was involved with strongcoin ?! [02:03]
pigeons uh yeah [02:04]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: so what does btcbond's news mean for btcmining? [02:04]
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mircea_popescu ugh. i thought solidcoin was this ridiculous one man fork which had like, imaginary nodes with "unspendable" millions and other hacky 16 yo nonsense [02:05]
mircea_popescu am i confusing it ?! [02:05]
pigeons i remember that, it may have been called that, but strongcoins.com is a web wallet. they used to employ gavin, i don't know currently [02:06]
pigeons *strongcoin.com [02:06]
Ukyo Diablo-D3: [02:07]
Ukyo pm [02:07]
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mjr_ hi all [02:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 13 @ 0.0242 = 0.3146 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 12 @ 0.0242 = 0.2904 BTC [-] [02:11]
Xelv3t !help [02:12]
assbot List of commands: [02:12]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) [02:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.745 BTC [-] [02:13]
Namworld means I'll probably have to sue amazingrando. I'm not sure our conversation records are sufficient at all for this. [02:13]
Diablo-D3 ;;ticker [02:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.47411, Best ask: 20.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17589, Last trade: 20.47411, 24 hour volume: 52068.35970111, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 21.05000, 24 hour vwap: 20.42514 [02:14]
mircea_popescu sue over 250 btc ? [02:14]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: you could loan one of your avalon units to btc-mining [02:14]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: its more than that [02:14]
mircea_popescu a [02:14]
Diablo-D3 its in the thousands I think [02:14]
Namworld 2369 BTC* [02:14]
mircea_popescu o no way ?! [02:15]
Diablo-D3 and 106 of that btc is mine [02:15]
Namworld aye [02:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.7590101 BTC [+] [02:15]
mircea_popescu so how come you're not one of the 85% [02:15]
mircea_popescu he didn't get much more than 30k total, did he ? [02:15]
Namworld 100000 bonds x .6 BTC = 60k BTC? [02:17]
Namworld Approximated [02:17]
Namworld I don't think he sold all his hashing at that price [02:18]
Namworld but there's like no margin kept for the operation's expense?!? [02:18]
Namworld He sold all the hashing it seems [02:18]
Namworld perpetual [02:18]
mircea_popescu well the terms keep shifting around, but anyway. [02:20]
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Namworld He should refit his rig for some other purpose. A 600 GPU cluster could propably fetch more by being rented as such than the 15k he makes mining per month. [02:21]
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DeadWeasel ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:09d6242f5fab39f5c63e486a8b81d9762d15ac12beddb4e569f7b24d [02:22]
gribble Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans [02:22]
DeadWeasel ;;eauth DeadWeasel [02:22]
gribble Request successful for user DeadWeasel, hostmask DeadWeasel!~DeadWease@108-61-55-67ch.openskytelcom.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/6D206C24463BEC07 [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.00736659 = 0.9577 BTC [-] [02:23]
mircea_popescu doing what ? [02:23]
DeadWeasel ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0759d0648d6f1f549ad334ff7accb25268c0bbb8c1642dda1b42e781 [02:23]
gribble Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans [02:23]
Namworld calculations. GPU clusters are good for various computational needs. [02:24]
Namworld Not just bitcoin hashing... [02:24]
mircea_popescu sounds vague. [02:24]
mircea_popescu aanyway, i'm impressed with the entire "rigs are worthless now that you've bought them for me" stuff [02:24]
mircea_popescu literally not one single miner, large or small, has done anything else [02:25]
mircea_popescu maybe just tag the lot of them and be done with it. persecution of miners. [02:25]
DeadWeasel ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 [02:25]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. [02:25]
DeadWeasel thx for the help mircea_popescu [02:26]
DeadWeasel gotta start somewhere. [02:26]
mircea_popescu sure [02:26]
mircea_popescu o btw! [02:26]
mircea_popescu ;;rate DeadWeasel -1 THAT CODE WAS DEFFECTIVE [02:26]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the rating system. [02:26]
DeadWeasel what? [02:26]
mircea_popescu lol [02:26]
mircea_popescu jus' messin with ya [02:26]
mircea_popescu they DID ban me tho [02:26]
DeadWeasel christ on crutches [02:27]
mircea_popescu but i doubt you had anything to do with it. [02:27]
DeadWeasel you can do that fine for yourself, clearly [02:27]
pigeons ;;rate DeadWeasel -2 trusts mircea_popescu [02:27]
kakobrekla already banned? [02:27]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user DeadWeasel has been recorded. [02:27]
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DeadWeasel jessus christ [02:27]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla literally 10 minutes. [02:27]
mircea_popescu lol poor guy had a heart attack [02:27]
pigeons ;;unrate DeadWeasel [02:27]
DeadWeasel um, seriously, could ya'll reverse that shit? [02:27]
gribble Successfully removed your rating for DeadWeasel. [02:27]
DeadWeasel thanks [02:27]
DeadWeasel WoT has less meaning to it after this experience. [02:28]
kakobrekla and i was just bout ;;rate pigeons -3 rates cause of ratings! [02:28]
mircea_popescu lmao RATEWAR! [02:28]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel wot is meaningless in itself. [02:28]
mircea_popescu you gotta understand it to use it to any effect. [02:28]
DeadWeasel I see that now.. learning is fun. [02:28]
DeadWeasel experience is the best teacher. unless you've got guide?? [02:28]
mircea_popescu how old are you if you don't mind my asking ? [02:29]
Namworld vague? I think GPU clusters can be used for graphical rendering... simulations... password cracking [02:29]
DeadWeasel first lesson, believeing WoT is actually a safe haven for doing business is false. [02:29]
Namworld that sort of things [02:29]
kakobrekla second lesson, dont tell your age to MP. [02:29]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel it is. it's just not easy to game. [02:30]
Namworld I'm not sure how you can use them exactly. I just know many companies rent GPU clusters. And price is usually hefty [02:30]
pigeons yeah but who is paying for third party gpu work? [02:30]
Namworld Would probably involve a lot of work and expenses for amazingrando to refit tho [02:30]
pigeons i have seen some deals for password cracking, but they weren't steady jobs [02:31]
mircea_popescu Namworld unless you know someione specifically paying 15001 right now [02:31]
mircea_popescu it's vague [02:31]
Namworld aye [02:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6023 @ 0.00069383 = 4.1789 BTC [+] [02:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12077 @ 0.00069001 = 8.3333 BTC [-] [02:31]
DeadWeasel http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3532233 [02:31]
DeadWeasel this really turned out well. [02:32]
DeadWeasel there are more twats on SometingAweful than bitcointalk [02:32]
mircea_popescu lol ya [02:32]
mircea_popescu still. i had 10 bux worth of fun [02:32]
mircea_popescu and i think i owned them worth half a buttcoin [02:32]
mircea_popescu like... a cheekcoin [02:32]
mircea_popescu 's wort [02:33]
DeadWeasel no doubt. [02:33]
mircea_popescu i wonder what burned more, the "i can't distinguish you from reddit" part or the "paid for account with buttcoins" part. [02:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+] [02:40]
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mircea_popescu well anyway. that's enough exciteement for one day. [02:44]
mircea_popescu take it ezzy all [02:44]
Diablo-D3 ;;ticker [02:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.49673, Best ask: 20.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.20326, Last trade: 20.49671, 24 hour volume: 52397.98545826, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 21.05000, 24 hour vwap: 20.42687 [02:44]
DeadWeasel adios [02:44]
Diablo-D3 ;;calc 253 * 20.49 / 1500 [02:45]
gribble 3.45598 [02:45]
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mod6 wb! [10:19]
mircea_popescu heya [10:19]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [10:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.41001, Best ask: 20.50879, Bid-ask spread: 0.09878, Last trade: 20.41000, 24 hour volume: 49661.44876349, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 20.89000, 24 hour vwap: 20.33937 [10:19]
error4733 hello MP [10:20]
mircea_popescu how goes ? [10:20]
error4733 big drame here :) [10:20]
mod6 well... heheh [10:20]
Ukyo hey MP [10:20]
Ukyo can you process mpex deposits [10:20]
Ukyo ? [10:20]
mircea_popescu yeah, one moment. [10:20]
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mircea_popescu error4733 o ? [10:20]
mircea_popescu ohoho what happened to s.dice [10:21]
mircea_popescu did luke kill it ? [10:21]
Ukyo these "new" 5mil shares of sdice [10:22]
Ukyo ppl are crying [10:22]
mircea_popescu o o [10:22]
mircea_popescu good time to buy i guess [10:22]
Ukyo well [10:22]
Ukyo a couple [10:22]
Ukyo no, +5mil shares [10:22]
Ukyo released [10:22]
mod6 @ .0044 [10:22]
Ukyo lemme get you the thread [10:22]
Ukyo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1504652#msg1504652 [10:22]
Ukyo theres that [10:22]
Ukyo heh [10:22]
mod6 the big question is did he violate the contract [10:22]
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mircea_popescu mod6 no ? [10:23]
Ukyo mod6: who though. [10:23]
mod6 who? ev [10:23]
Ukyo mircea_popescu: : thts why i asked you to do deposits [10:23]
Ukyo real quick [10:23]
Ukyo :P [10:23]
mircea_popescu ipo ended jan 3rd, rest of shares were added feb 3rd [10:23]
mod6 b) at a price no less than the higher of the 1 day average price and the 30 day average price then current on MPEx ; [10:30]
mod6 Everyone is wondering if this statement is in play because he sold the tranche at .0044 [10:30]
mod6 !ticker m S.DiCE [10:30]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00544701 / 0.007395 (286728 shares, 1,561.81 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00674716 / 0.007395 (953182 shares, 6,431.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00516138 / 0.0075 (6135135 shares, 31,665.79 BTC) [10:30]
error4733 mp can you detail the 2.2.a on IPO details ? [10:30]
Bowjob I was under the impression that the share issuance mean releasing shares to public [10:30]
Bowjob if anything I think the right thing to do is leave at 0.44, next block is at 0.70 onwards [10:30]
Bowjob that way everyone is happy [10:30]
Ukyo i am happy with more 0.0044 blocks >,> [10:30]
Ukyo everyone else should be too [10:30]
Bowjob we get our cheap shares new investors get cheap shares, value goes up [10:30]
Bowjob im not [10:30]
Bowjob until topace goes online so i can buy those too [10:30]
mod6 im still convinced that he did this wrong [10:30]
Ukyo everyone gets cheap shares, then it goes up [10:30]
Bowjob yeah. but wait till i get a private offering [10:30]
Ukyo bow: lol get them elsewhere [10:30]
Bowjob lol [10:30]
Ukyo BF, coinbr, btct [10:30]
Bowjob havelock tends to rise the highest. perfect for cashing out ^^ [10:30]
Bowjob I'll crash the havelock price at 0.44 then ask for an offering [10:30]
Ukyo go for it heh [10:30]
Bowjob i need topace for that [10:30]
Bowjob lol [10:30]
Bowjob hes asleep [10:30]
Ukyo sms him :P [10:30]
Ukyo "WAKE UP AND GIVE ME OFFERING" :P [10:30]
Bowjob its 3.30 am [10:30]
Bowjob lol [10:30]
Bowjob id rather not [10:30]
Ukyo might be gone by the time he wakes up [10:30]
mod6 THIS SHIT DONT SLEE [10:30]
mod6 P [10:30]
Ukyo then if yours 0.0070 goes into play, then you have to pay full [10:30]
Bowjob 800k shares left [10:30]
Bowjob thats plenty of time [10:30]
error4733 36h [10:30]
Ukyo 5hrs [10:30]
error4733 or24 [10:30]
error4733 bet ? [10:30]
* Ukyo grins [10:30]
Ukyo I'm too nice to take that bet [10:30]
Bowjob lol [10:30]
Ukyo seriously. [10:31]
error4733 agree [10:31]
mircea_popescu okay, all deposits flushed [10:31]
Bowjob get the rota back! [10:31]
Ukyo Bowjob: : LOL [10:31]
mircea_popescu have fun boys [10:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 210000 @ 0.0044 = 924 BTC [+] [10:33]
Bowjob so mp, was there a breach in contract? [10:33]
* Ukyo whistles [10:33]
Bowjob Wow [10:33]
Ukyo >,> [10:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 227272 @ 0.0044 = 999.9968 BTC [+] [10:33]
Ukyo I didn do it [10:33]
Ukyo btw [10:33]
Bowjob Dude dont be greedy!! leave me some :( [10:33]
Ukyo how much did you wanna bet? [10:33]
mod6 lol well there was 1/2 [10:33]
error4733 5min [10:33]
Ukyo just curious [10:33]
Ukyo LOL [10:33]
Bowjob Fuck [10:33]
Bowjob :( [10:33]
Ukyo i am pretty sure [10:33]
Ukyo the rest will be gone [10:33]
Ukyo in 2`4 hours [10:33]
Bowjob I know erik is gonna sell the next one at higher [10:33]
Ukyo i know other ppl that willbe doing it [10:33]
Namworld I'll reiterate my offer to broker them for you [10:33]
Ukyo yeah, Namworld's good :) [10:33]
Ukyo or just pay a btc and signup on coinbr [10:33]
Ukyo and get them straight from mpex [10:33]
Ukyo and send them to havelock [10:33]
mircea_popescu Bowjob nope ? [10:33]
Ukyo then you are sure to get em [10:33]
Bowjob Nam, do you issue shares? [10:33]
Bowjob like dead terra? or just have it sent to james [10:33]
mircea_popescu what would be the breach ? [10:33]
Namworld I have BTC-BOND on BTCT.co [10:33]
Namworld and there's BitVPS too [10:33]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [10:34]
Bowjob there was a confusion about the contract.. hold on [10:34]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00481465 / 0.007395 (724000 shares, 3,485.81 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00600902 / 0.007395 (1390454 shares, 8,355.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00511072 / 0.0075 (6572407 shares, 33,589.79 BTC) [10:34]
Namworld I've just submitted S.MPOE, S.DICE & S.BBET passthrough on BTCT.co, pending approval [10:34]
Ukyo Namworld: that buy was great use of btc-bond [10:34]
Ukyo good thing you dont have to pay them out in large profits if you dont want to lol [10:34]
Bowjob " All future share issuance will be made only a) subject to approval by MPEx and b) at a price no less than the higher of the 1 day average price and the 30 day average price then current on MPEx ; " [10:34]
mircea_popescu Bowjob yes, but this wasn't a future share issuance. [10:35]
mircea_popescu this was the original, guy got 100mn shares, of which 10mn were ipod [10:35]
mircea_popescu and the remainder to be added to his acct 1 month after ipo closes. [10:36]
mircea_popescu ipo started august, last share was sold jan 3rd (announced ehre) [10:36]
mircea_popescu feb 3rd he got the rest of his 40mn shares and i guess he put some on sale. [10:36]
mircea_popescu no breach. [10:36]
Ukyo but you do anyways [10:44]
Bowjob What does that mean exactly? [10:44]
Ukyo nam: ah that reminds me [10:44]
Ukyo never did turn on terras bbet pt :/ [10:44]
Ukyo he picked up like 5k really cheap lol [10:44]
Bowjob the big whale would do well if he downs the dice 11k btc [10:44]
Bowjob and buys shares of dice with his winnings [10:44]
Bowjob let hisother whale buddies play instead [10:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 92512 @ 0.0044 = 407.0528 BTC [+] [10:44]
Namworld what Bowjob said [10:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.5321 = 6.3852 BTC [-] [10:44]
Bowjob Nam, can you get me 80 BTC worth of shares? [10:44]
Ukyo 261k left [10:44]
Namworld If I can get a deposit done by mircea right away. [10:44]
Namworld If only he'd come around [10:44]
Namworld I already bought max for myself [10:44]
Ukyo he already did deposits [10:44]
Ukyo a few mini ago [10:44]
Ukyo oh [10:44]
Namworld oh yeah, I see him posting 2 lines [10:44]
Namworld Hey mircea, can process a deposit right away? [10:44]
Ukyo if Nam cant do it, seriously try coinbr. [10:45]
Ukyo they _will_ be gone in a few hours [10:45]
Ukyo if not sooner [10:45]
Ukyo I highly doubt topace will be awake before they are gone [10:45]
Namworld mircea_popescu [10:45]
Namworld ^ important to use exact name for IRC client to annoy an user =P [10:45]
Ukyo lol [10:45]
Ukyo oh geez [10:45]
Ukyo new massive-ruby-rails exploit https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rubyonrails-security/1h2DR63ViGo [10:45]
Bowjob ah this is too stressful lol [10:45]
Namworld you mean AGAIN or you're late? [10:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 92512 @ 0.0044 = 407.0528 BTC [+] [10:45]
Namworld @ukyo [10:45]
mod6 what about part b? [10:45]
Ukyo again [10:45]
Bowjob all right [10:45]
mod6 how does that apply or not apply [10:45]
Bowjob thx for claryfiying [10:45]
Namworld arf [10:45]
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Ukyo versions 2.3.x and 3.0.x. [10:45]
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Ukyo effected [10:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.0044 = 0.088 BTC [+] [10:45]
mod6 hmmm ok well im off. [10:45]
mod6 c-ya [10:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 227272 @ 0.0044 = 999.9968 BTC [+] [10:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0044 = 0.0132 BTC [+] [10:46]
maximian almost all gone… awesome! [10:47]
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Bowjob Wow [10:47]
Bowjob I'm screwed [10:47]
Ukyo Yold you [10:47]
Ukyo dood [10:47]
Namworld I pmed you bowjob [10:47]
Ukyo nam or coinbr [10:47]
Bowjob Yes, [10:47]
Ukyo if you want em [10:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2721 @ 0.00069971 = 1.9039 BTC [+] [10:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00069999 = 1.526 BTC [+] [10:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5449 @ 0.0007 = 3.8143 BTC [+] [10:47]
* mircea_popescu reads up lol [10:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 16831 @ 0.0044 = 74.0564 BTC [+] [10:48]
Namworld Check PM Bowjob, or you want to forget about it? [10:48]
Namworld Ah nevermind [10:48]
mircea_popescu I highly doubt topace will be awake before they are gone << BTC FINANCE NEVERSLEEPS! [10:49]
Bowjob wait [10:49]
Namworld Looks like it's gone [10:49]
Bowjob yeah [10:49]
maximian like a bunch of starving hounds… lol [10:49]
Namworld 17k left [10:49]
mircea_popescu new massive-ruby-rails << exploit dude fuck me, ANOTHER ONE !? [10:49]
Namworld yeah... awesome isn't it. [10:49]
Bowjob Well [10:49]
Bowjob :( [10:49]
mircea_popescu jessu god. [10:49]
Bowjob This didn't happen. Voorhees never sold cheap dice [10:49]
Bowjob lalalala i cant hear you [10:50]
mircea_popescu and to think people STILL use ror for btc stuff [10:50]
mircea_popescu insanity. [10:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0044 = 0.88 BTC [+] [10:50]
mircea_popescu Bowjob maybe he sells more who knows [10:50]
mircea_popescu there are guys around who bought s.dice at 0.0008 so [10:50]
mircea_popescu actually, i see 17k left at 44 ? [10:50]
Bowjob Nam, thanks for the offer, my heart pounded for a bit tho >_> [10:51]
Namworld Bowjob: someone put for sale 500k S.DICE @ 0.0008 BTC each not long ago. Error sale. It was there for a few seconds before being canceled, free to be taken. [10:51]
Namworld and it was ipoed at 0.0032 [10:51]
Bowjob I can still send it? [10:51]
Namworld Yes [10:51]
Namworld If I can't get them, I'll return the BTC [10:51]
Ukyo ah nm then nam [10:51]
Ukyo if hes taking all of them [10:51]
Ukyo ignore my pm [10:51]
Ukyo :P [10:52]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [10:52]
assbot Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'? [10:52]
Ukyo 0,o [10:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17179 @ 0.0044 = 75.5876 BTC [+] [10:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.007 = 3.5 BTC [+] [10:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 321 @ 0.00739497 = 2.3738 BTC [+] [10:52]
Bowjob Nope, goner [10:52]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [10:52]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0042 / 0.00468036 / 0.007395 (1078838 shares, 5,049.36 BTC), 7D: 0.0042 / 0.00568318 / 0.007395 (1745292 shares, 9,918.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00507464 / 0.0075 (6927245 shares, 35,153.34 BTC) [10:52]
maximian well that was quick [10:52]
Bowjob Gratz [10:52]
error4733 bam [10:53]
Bowjob I underestimated the power of mpex [10:53]
Bowjob fuck [10:53]
mircea_popescu lol so basically... they went 5 mins after i showed up and flushed deposits ? [10:53]
Bowjob mp [10:53]
Namworld It's gone. It's all gone. [10:53]
Ukyo error: how were you gonna bet errlier? LOL [10:53]
Bowjob you are one powerful catalyst you know that? [10:53]
Namworld mircea: exactly [10:53]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [10:53]
Bowjob had you not shown up, that dice would stay there [10:53]
mircea_popescu 5k volume in a day [10:53]
Bowjob i know you have a big ego and all, but you deserve it this time [10:53]
Bowjob ^ [10:53]
maximian I think we made evoorhees fell bad enough that the next 1,000,000 will be at or above 0.007 [10:53]
mircea_popescu lol i don't have a big ego, i just bruise op's egos [10:53]
Bowjob yes, im okay with that [10:53]
Bowjob lol [10:54]
Namworld Not always tho. I don't agree on most topics with Mircea I think. [10:54]
mircea_popescu maximian well, if indeed it was him selling then ya, 44 was maybe a little low [10:54]
Bowjob its a crazy undervalue by erik [10:54]
maximian we really freaked out on him… heh heh [10:54]
mircea_popescu he could have gotten moar [10:54]
Bowjob yeah, we gave erik a good scolding [10:54]
Bowjob lol [10:54]
Bowjob :/ [10:54]
mircea_popescu poor guy [10:54]
Ukyo i think his investor [10:54]
mircea_popescu and then you wonder why people don't want to list [10:54]
Ukyo needed cash [10:54]
Ukyo smoething happened [10:54]
mircea_popescu HE IS GIVING YOU FREE MONEY [10:54]
Ukyo or [10:54]
mircea_popescu you are scolding him for it [10:54]
Ukyo SOMETHING HAPPEEND [10:54]
Bowjob i told him i trusted just judgement.. so its all good [10:54]
Ukyo and we getting screwed [10:54]
Ukyo lol [10:54]
Bowjob in the end [10:54]
Bowjob lol [10:54]
Ukyo [02:55] HE IS GIVING YOU FREE MONEY [10:55]
maximian I'm a greedy bastard! I want him to give me MOAR FREE MONEY [10:55]
Ukyo Let the truth ring out [10:55]
Ukyo ppl need to stop complaining [10:55]
Bowjob Yes.. Mammon possessed me [10:55]
Bowjob :) [10:55]
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Bowjob nam, thanks again for the pm [10:55]
mircea_popescu so how big was the block, 500k ? 1mn ? [10:55]
Bowjob 1m [10:55]
maximian out of 5M [10:56]
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Bowjob the next block will be a bit more exp [10:56]
Bowjob 20:55] just next block please dont undermine us too much >:/ [10:56]
Bowjob [20:55] bowjob - I think that's fair [10:56]
Bowjob there you go [10:56]
Namworld I tried to convince evoorhees to not do that again too... [10:57]
Namworld I want large walls at 0.75, 0.76, 0.77, 0.78 [10:57]
Bowjob well everyones happy with this. we get cheap dice, new investors get cheap dice [10:57]
mircea_popescu lol ok [10:57]
Namworld 1 million each [10:57]
mircea_popescu maybe that was his idea really [10:57]
Bowjob now those poor fuckers who cashed out at havelock [10:57]
mircea_popescu give people a chance you know ? [10:57]
Bowjob are screwed [10:57]
Bowjob lol [10:57]
Namworld Panic selling... [10:57]
Bowjob last time I panick sold it did not end well [10:57]
mircea_popescu !ticker h sdice [10:57]
Namworld I've earned good money on those [10:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.52100000 / 0.69673814 / 0.76500000 (683 shares, 475.87214730 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.73408862 / 0.89000000 (2245 shares, 1648.02895898 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.61127055 / 0.89000000 (6178 shares, 3776.42947722 BTC) [10:57]
Bowjob so I learned from my mistakes [10:57]
mircea_popescu 69 not so horrid is it [10:58]
Namworld I usually try to sell when I have a profit [10:58]
Namworld sometimes I bit my fingers seeing it keeping going up and up [10:58]
Bowjob nah [10:58]
Bowjob im fine iwht 69 [10:58]
Namworld But most of the time, it gives me fund for the next panic sale. [10:58]
mircea_popescu yo people, i just realised [10:58]
mircea_popescu this sounds just like a real market and everything! [10:58]
Ukyo -_- [10:58]
Bowjob this is a real market [10:58]
Bowjob >_> [10:59]
mircea_popescu whodda thunk it. [10:59]
error4733 !ticker s s.dice [10:59]
assbot You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey. [10:59]
Bowjob im playing with real moneies here [10:59]
dub I don't think he had much idea [10:59]
Ukyo yes, it is a real market. You just realized that? :P [10:59]
Namworld For a small bitcoin idea worth a few million USD [10:59]
Bowjob lol [10:59]
Bowjob it wasnt a small idea [10:59]
dub seemed shocked that people were'nt over the moon about it [10:59]
Bowjob i wonder whrre satoshi is [10:59]
Ukyo jaquzzie [10:59]
Ukyo :P [10:59]
mircea_popescu avalon fucks up 1st batc horders, right ? gets in 64 right ? [10:59]
Bowjob yeah which jacuzzi [10:59]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 64 * 80 [10:59]
gribble 5120 [10:59]
mircea_popescu that is 5k too. [11:00]
Bowjob umm [11:00]
mircea_popescu s.dice traded 5k today./ [11:00]
Bowjob huh? what fuck up [11:00]
Bowjob i know avalon fucked up batch order no 2 [11:00]
mircea_popescu weren't people selling their cookies of walletbit a few days ago ? [11:00]
mircea_popescu ya is what i mean [11:00]
mircea_popescu o nm, typo, 2 not 1 [11:00]
Ukyo LOL [11:00]
Bowjob lol [11:00]
Bowjob u scared me [11:00]
Ukyo yifu told me there are quite a few orders [11:00]
Ukyo that have gone unpaid for and will be expired soon [11:01]
Ukyo and will go back up [11:01]
Bowjob i didnt even get thru [11:01]
Bowjob ill try to snag an avalon [11:01]
Bowjob mhm [11:01]
Ukyo 1st blotch or 2nd? [11:01]
Bowjob 2nd [11:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.765 = 3.825 BTC [+] [11:01]
Ukyo really? [11:01]
Ukyo 2nd worked fine for us [11:01]
Bowjob Theres a company here, avalon milk [11:01]
Bowjob its such a good company [11:01]
Bowjob delicious milk.. [11:01]
Bowjob ^ [11:01]
Ukyo i'm pretty sure they are unrelated. ;) [11:01]
Bowjob i know. but avalon stuff is good [11:01]
Bowjob milk or asic or otherwise [11:02]
Bowjob :P [11:02]
Ukyo I bought a fun domain off someone on the forums couple days ago [11:02]
Ukyo having fun doing some side code with it [11:02]
Ukyo gonna put one of my avalons on it for sale [11:02]
Ukyo >:P~ [11:02]
mircea_popescu Theres a company here, avalon milk << kakobrekla [11:02]
Bowjob http://www.avalondairy.com/ [11:03]
Bowjob best milk ever [11:03]
Bowjob theyve been doing it for a while now [11:03]
Bowjob Looks like flipping of shares have started [11:07]
Bowjob its like getting a free dice roll that wins [11:07]
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gesell well that was quick (sdice offering depleted ) [11:09]
mircea_popescu lol people selling in the pts ? [11:10]
Namworld yeah [11:10]
Namworld Hey, I also catched some of those PTs [11:10]
Namworld Will sell back for more [11:10]
Namworld By the way, anyone selling DMC shares? [11:12]
Namworld I'd like to increase my stake in that [11:12]
mircea_popescu jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1504142#msg1504142 [11:12]
mircea_popescu you know what open interest is, right ? [11:12]
Namworld Thanks about the manual withdrawals... [11:14]
Namworld part [11:14]
Namworld You get fees income, better earn it. Manual withdrawal is a minimum it seems for exchanges. [11:15]
Namworld Or at least, a minimum is a small hot wallet that can be afforded to be lost. [11:15]
Bowjob !ticker havelock [11:15]
assbot It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money. [11:15]
Bowjob .. i fail. someone show me how its done [11:15]
Bowjob "2013-02-05 04:00:59 5 ฿0.76500000 ฿3.8250 2013-02-05 03:37:00 12 ฿0.53210000 ฿6.3852 2013-02-05 02:27:59 24 ฿0.53210000 ฿12.7704 2013-02-05 02:26:59 3 ฿0.55000000 ฿1.6500 2013-02-05 02:26:00 5 ฿0.60000000 ฿3.0000" [11:16]
Ukyo nam? [11:16]
Bowjob Mhm, disregard that, it's an eyesore [11:16]
Ukyo there are a bunch of DMC for sale on BF [11:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.0007 = 8.925 BTC [+] [11:17]
mircea_popescu Ukyo you gonna get with the assbot already ? [11:17]
Bowjob anyone here play pc games [11:18]
Ukyo MP: I am trying to finish a big thing for BF atm [11:18]
Bowjob just wondering what does everyone do here? [11:18]
Ukyo and have a handful of minor things to get done [11:18]
Ukyo but [11:18]
Ukyo once the API goes public, or if kako joins the API beta list [11:18]
Ukyo he can just do it [11:18]
Bowjob im 20 years old, i only work 6 months at a nursery selling plants, i love videogames, economics, sushi, typical kid [11:18]
Bowjob are you guys like me? or are you guys old wealthy secret illuminati [11:19]
Ukyo mircea_popescu is the oldest. [11:19]
Ukyo :P [11:19]
Bowjob i know theres a 13 year old kid on btctalk [11:19]
Bowjob im under the impression most traders here are young people who can take the risk [11:20]
Bowjob who dress casually.. not those wall street peeps [11:20]
Bowjob when I look at the mt gox tracker thread I find it comical people post pictures of rockets, walls, ect [11:21]
truffles why would illumi's be interested in bitcoin though [11:21]
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Bowjob dunno. we could be the new world order [11:21]
Bowjob lol [11:21]
Ukyo and with that [11:21]
Ukyo I am gonna make some food [11:21]
Ukyo :P [11:21]
Bowjob yeah man. speaking of food. i got some free coffee from a bitcoin user [11:21]
truffles there was an episode of "The Goodwife" about bitcoin being a threat to the govt [11:22]
Bowjob he gave it away due to rally which made people spend less likely spend bitcoins [11:22]
truffles bitcoin won the case afai can recall [11:22]
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mircea_popescu im in my 30s, retired a decade ago, lived in the states, mexico, costa rica, eventually got bored [11:23]
truffles how does one retire at 30 gtfo [11:23]
mircea_popescu i've always worn a suit and i never was employed. [11:23]
mircea_popescu i was 24. [11:23]
mircea_popescu at the time [11:23]
truffles pics or it didnt happen [11:24]
mircea_popescu what'd you like to see ? [11:24]
truffles like non pixelized jpeg of u in a suit lol [11:24]
mircea_popescu um k [11:24]
truffles something that proves it [11:25]
Bowjob mhm [11:25]
truffles without giving away your bank details [11:25]
Bowjob yeah, im a bored 20 year old [11:25]
Bowjob lol [11:25]
Diablo-D3 [04:22:09]
there was an episode of "The Goodwife" about bitcoin being a threat to the govt 		[11:25]
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Diablo-D3 not exactly [11:25]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/ [11:26]
truffles well they did say it was being used like money [11:26]
mircea_popescu pick one from there, they're the historical background pix of my blog [11:26]
mircea_popescu the bg_ stuff [11:26]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_ian2010.jpg that one is prolly bitcoin-adequate :D [11:27]
truffles good looking guy! [11:27]
Bowjob mhm, not bad. [11:27]
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Bowjob so mp, you have a degree in finance? [11:27]
truffles these very nice pictures still dont prove ure balling [11:28]
Bowjob you're sitting ontop of one of the biggest btc compannies.. [11:28]
Bowjob truffles, im sure he's balling rightnow with mpex and all [11:28]
truffles i love playing monopoly! [11:28]
truffles i have no idea what that is [11:28]
truffles i have a problem with a system that only nerdy people want to jump on board with [11:29]
awkorama_ hi guys [11:30]
Ukyo MP: whats up with teh monopoly knock off board? [11:31]
Ukyo :P [11:31]
awkorama_ anyone knows how the zero confirmation on SD works? I mean I understand that there is transaction 1, that is the bet and transaction 2 that is the price and t2 takes its output from t1, but what prevents the attacker from waiting to see t2 and then try to stop t1 by invalidating it (e.g. double spend) ? [11:31]
truffles t1 t2 what langugage is this heh [11:32]
awkorama_ transaction 1, transaction 2 [11:32]
truffles dont mind me, i have no technical experience with this [11:33]
mircea_popescu truffles well, you wanted pix in a suit [11:33]
mircea_popescu there's what, a dozen there [11:33]
truffles oh i only looked at 2.. [11:34]
mircea_popescu Ukyo i dunno. is it a knockoff ? [11:34]
mircea_popescu was playing with some kids in a bar. [11:34]
truffles let me go look at some more [11:34]
mircea_popescu awkorama_ you prolly should ask dooglus or people in the forum sd watching thread [11:34]
mircea_popescu they know more than us i imagine [11:34]
truffles who took this pics ` [11:35]
Bowjob it was PR [11:35]
truffles theyre so cheeky lol [11:35]
Bowjob :0 [11:35]
Bowjob MPOE-PR took the pics ob [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00564885 = 3.3893 BTC [-] [11:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0071999 = 2.88 BTC [+] [11:35]
truffles http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_mdld.jpg lol [11:35]
mircea_popescu no it wasn't !? [11:35]
Bowjob she has an awesome job [11:35]
mircea_popescu they're over the course od many years [11:36]
Bowjob mp i was joking lol [11:36]
mircea_popescu the one by the seaside is in villahermosa i think [11:36]
mircea_popescu the monopoly one is in timisoara [11:36]
Bowjob like a boss [11:36]
mircea_popescu the current one on trilema is in luxor [11:36]
Bowjob MP, you are left handed no? [11:36]
mircea_popescu nop [11:36]
mircea_popescu im ambidextrous [11:36]
Bowjob oh [11:36]
Bowjob i see [11:36]
Bowjob On that pic you had your watch on your right hand, normally people put it on their left if they are right handed [11:37]
Bowjob but ambi is also fine i guess [11:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.0071999 = 17.9998 BTC [+] [11:37]
truffles http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_oct2010.jpg look like those guys from tv show "Fringe" [11:37]
truffles what do they call em!! [11:37]
mircea_popescu that's in frankfurt [11:37]
mircea_popescu (obviously) [11:37]
mircea_popescu and as far as ballinggoes... let me see here [11:38]
Bowjob mhm, i see bear and bulls [11:38]
Diablo-D3 a bear and a bull [11:38]
Bowjob they should add pig [11:38]
Diablo-D3 hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr [11:38]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/ [11:38]
Diablo-D3 Bowjob: what would that signify? a stale market? [11:38]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/ [11:38]
Bowjob stale would be bearish imo [11:38]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/a-nins-a-nins/ [11:39]
truffles nsfw tsk tsk [11:39]
mircea_popescu etc. [11:39]
Bowjob Well, I was thinking of investor styles. Bears make money by shorting, Bulls make money buy holding [11:39]
Bowjob and pigs lose money by shorting and holding [11:39]
Diablo-D3 Bowjob: oh, so pigs represent the 99%? [11:39]
Bowjob well, im not sure is 99% of the investors lose money investing [11:39]
truffles im pretty sure im losing if i did [11:40]
Bowjob i've doubled my monies essentially holding dice.. so im not sure if its that hard [11:40]
Namworld They represent the idiots. Oddly politicians are often depicted as pigs. [11:40]
Bowjob mhm [11:40]
truffles somebody elected that pig so, what do we call the people` [11:41]
Bowjob sheep [11:41]
truffles just need a wolf to reign in those sheep and bam [11:42]
Bowjob what do we call spectators then [11:42]
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truffles voyeurist?` [11:43]
Bowjob lol [11:44]
Bowjob thats not the term! [11:44]
truffles what kinda term you looking for here [11:44]
truffles bowjob im pretty bored too lol [11:45]
Bowjob animal term for a spectator [11:45]
Bowjob we have bulls, sheep, wolf, pig, bear [11:45]
truffles oh [11:45]
truffles rat, snail, cockroach? [11:45]
truffles cockroach suits me thinks [11:46]
Bowjob for a spectator? [11:46]
truffles yea they never die [11:46]
truffles unless u mean speculator? [11:46]
Bowjob no, cockroaches get squashed.. spectators dont [11:46]
Bowjob no i dont mean speculator [11:46]
Bowjob lol [11:46]
truffles what animal doesnt get killed [11:46]
mircea_popescu owl. [11:46]
Bowjob yes, mp got it [11:47]
truffles ok.. [11:47]
Bowjob owl far from reach of the chaos [11:47]
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truffles well lying in the shadows is that owl hunter [11:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.0007 = 9.695 BTC [+] [11:50]
Bowjob this is a wierd convo [11:50]
truffles ure a weird dude [11:51]
Bowjob *shurgs [11:52]
Namworld What's a shurgs? =P [11:52]
truffles better to have known enemy than an unknown one [11:53]
mircea_popescu http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=217077 [11:53]
Namworld ure wierd shurgs... you guys speak a curious dialect. [11:53]
mircea_popescu mpex not hacked. fedwire hacked? [11:53]
Bowjob I can't spell anymore. I've graduated hs 3 years ago [11:53]
mircea_popescu bitcoin 1 : fiat 0. [11:53]
Bowjob I got some 87% in english which means that my english has deteriorated somewhat [11:53]
truffles wont find me speaking the queens english in a non-essay format [11:54]
truffles fedwire.. must google.. [11:54]
Bowjob Let's have a moment of silence for the poor people at Havelock who panic sold earlier. [11:55]
mircea_popescu well... they were trading as high as 82 or something [11:55]
mircea_popescu in spite of the div cut [11:55]
mircea_popescu so, if they can go 10% over they should be ok with 10% under too neh ? [11:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.0007 = 6.615 BTC [+] [11:56]
Bowjob umm, its more than 10% under earlier [11:56]
Bowjob it went to 0.52 [11:56]
mircea_popescu a ok [11:56]
mircea_popescu well, i was going by avgs [11:56]
Bowjob everythings back to normal [11:56]
mircea_popescu but you have a point [11:56]
truffles is this BTC related speak or economic related [11:56]
mircea_popescu its mpex realted!!!!! [11:57]
mircea_popescu winwinwinwin [11:57]
truffles operated by Mircea Popescu of Romania hmmm [11:58]
truffles are u affiliated? [11:58]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/breaking-bitcoin-1-fiat-0/ [12:00]
mircea_popescu lalala [12:00]
mircea_popescu truffles hm ? [12:00]
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Bowjob !ticker [12:00]
truffles ure happy about something so im assuming u own shares or somethng [12:00]
assbot I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs. [12:00]
Bowjob ;;ticker [12:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.45612, Best ask: 20.56889, Bid-ask spread: 0.11277, Last trade: 20.45612, 24 hour volume: 45913.24160064, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 20.89000, 24 hour vwap: 20.33950 [12:00]
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mircea_popescu truffles i own a majority stake in mpex [12:01]
truffles oh well i hope that works out for u [12:02]
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truffles so can one buy a 5 year bond in BTC currency? [12:04]
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Bowjob 5 years is an eternity in bitcoin timeline [12:06]
mircea_popescu truffles you could buy mpoe bonds and stick with them for 5 years [12:06]
mircea_popescu they pay interest monthly. [12:06]
mircea_popescu there are some people going on 1yr+ bynow [12:07]
truffles just curious about that [12:08]
Bowjob the interest rate has been really good to investors so far [12:08]
truffles i mean i still havent figured out how this btc works wont dare go that far [12:08]
mircea_popescu it did pay 6k or whatever last month [12:08]
truffles one would think the software writers could have at least put in the option for english language [12:08]
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truffles being that its one complex system ... [12:10]
truffles is this channel always this lively heh [12:11]
truffles gonna go kill some zombies! [12:11]
Bowjob anyone played the walking dead? [12:11]
Bowjob best zombie game ever [12:12]
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truffles nah [12:13]
truffles blackops 2 [12:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.765 = 3.06 BTC [+] [12:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006959 = 3.007 BTC [-] [12:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00069576 = 3.7425 BTC [-] [12:49]
truffles the walking dead tv is getting good [12:55]
truffles im not that into video games, but when i play, blackops is my game [12:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069602 = 3.0075 BTC [+] [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5529 @ 0.00069576 = 3.8469 BTC [-] [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00069991 = 4.7594 BTC [+] [13:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00069994 = 1.7848 BTC [+] [13:27]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141287.0 [13:50]
mircea_popescu this will no doubt go over well. [13:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069577 = 3.0064 BTC [-] [13:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1431 @ 0.00069576 = 0.9956 BTC [-] [13:54]
Diablo-D3 sigh [13:54]
Diablo-D3 maybe I should just throw my money away and invest it in mpex and sdice [13:54]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: on mpex, how are dividends paid? [13:56]
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Bugpowder when is next s.dice tranche going off? [13:58]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 owner issues a DIVIDEND|x|Y|z command [13:59]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder it wasn't said. [13:59]
Bugpowder any idea of the next price level? [14:00]
mircea_popescu nope. [14:00]
mircea_popescu okay so, i've some meetings to go to right now but ill be back later [14:00]
mircea_popescu everyone don't panic! [14:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5011 @ 0.00069576 = 3.4865 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4024 @ 0.00069311 = 2.7891 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.0006919 = 8.545 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 851 @ 0.00069001 = 0.5872 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00069001 = 27.6004 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00069001 = 28.9804 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155348 @ 0.00069 = 107.1901 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8178 @ 0.00069 = 5.6428 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 723 @ 0.00068913 = 0.4982 BTC [-] [14:02]
Namworld People panicked... [14:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2677 @ 0.00068913 = 1.8448 BTC [-] [14:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00068827 = 7.5021 BTC [-] [14:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 423 @ 0.00068749 = 0.2908 BTC [-] [14:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10808 @ 0.00068749 = 7.4304 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8661 @ 0.00068721 = 5.9519 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.0006871 = 9.1384 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10438 @ 0.00068678 = 7.1686 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15324 @ 0.00068663 = 10.5219 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5552 @ 0.00068625 = 3.8101 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00068411 = 0.8893 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00068333 = 3.8266 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00068292 = 2.1512 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00068264 = 3.2767 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00068242 = 5.357 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00068227 = 6.7886 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00068225 = 4.0935 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00068223 = 15.2478 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5040 @ 0.00068186 = 3.4366 BTC [-] [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19877 @ 0.00068178 = 13.5517 BTC [-] [14:08]
Namworld Going to meetings is apparently bad for the price of assets =P [14:08]
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Diablo-D3 [06:59:40] Diablo-D3 owner issues a DIVIDEND|x|Y|z command [14:09]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yeah, but Ive never used mpex, I thought it was all pgp signed contracts and shit and didnt actually rely on the mpex servers that much [14:10]
StarenseN this is pgp signed [14:11]
StarenseN every actions [14:11]
Namworld Aye [14:12]
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Namworld Hmm, some people have put up a part of the S.DICE back on sale in the 0.0069 range [14:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 460 @ 0.0051 = 2.346 BTC [+] [14:16]
Namworld I really wonder what evoorhees will do for the next slices [14:17]
Bugpowder I am ready for the next slice [14:18]
Bugpowder don't panic people [14:19]
Bugpowder the demand will be able to absorb these shares. [14:19]
Namworld Will they all get eaten up like that? [14:19]
Namworld Probably... there was tons of deposits [14:19]
Bugpowder how fast did the first tranche go? [14:20]
Namworld Like hmm... [14:21]
Bugpowder now the 20K BTC wall is down at $21 [14:21]
Bugpowder heh [14:21]
Bugpowder that could eat 4M shares pretty quick [14:21]
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Diablo-D3 does it still cost money to get an mpex account? [14:22]
StarenseN 30 BTC / 25 BTC with referal [14:23]
StarenseN 24 if you use mine, i'll back you 1BTC i receive [14:23]
Diablo-D3 fuck that. [14:23]
Diablo-D3 mpex is still a scam then [14:24]
Bugpowder lol [14:24]
Namworld Took near 5 hours [14:24]
Bugpowder RELEASE THE SHARES! [14:24]
Namworld to sell all [14:24]
Bugpowder OK good [14:24]
Bugpowder well [14:24]
Bugpowder some people were asleep [14:24]
Namworld yeah [14:25]
Namworld They'll bite their fingers [14:25]
Namworld Just like I have from time to time =/ [14:25]
StarenseN Diablo-D3 you can trade via a passthrough [14:25]
Diablo-D3 yeah but that means the passthrough guy can just steal the shares [14:25]
Namworld I'll be doing passthroughs for these [14:26]
StarenseN yes that's a scam [14:26]
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Namworld If approved, that is [14:27]
StarenseN yes [14:27]
Diablo-D3 I dunno, Im not even sure if I want to do business with avalon [14:27]
StarenseN just to answer [13:24] mpex is still a scam then [14:27]
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StarenseN but for me, mp has to lower the fees [14:28]
StarenseN because BTC gained lot of value last month [14:28]
Namworld Which he will not do. [14:28]
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Namworld It's perfect like that to him. [14:29]
StarenseN he can't maintain that on a long term [14:29]
Diablo-D3 whos selling what? [14:31]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [14:32]
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Diablo-D3 EskimoBob_afk: more context [14:33]
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StarenseN an opportunity, house or something [14:33]
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StarenseN bankers don't give garantee for this business imo [14:34]
StarenseN cash is king [14:34]
gigavps they are releasing more sdice? [14:34]
gigavps cashing out could imply a couple things [14:35]
gigavps they could be coming under regulatory pressure [14:35]
Diablo-D3 so the sdice gravy train is over? [14:36]
gigavps wouldn't surprise me [14:36]
gigavps when you flaunt something like sdice around someone with meatspace power will take notice before long [14:36]
gigavps it's like nefario talking about how the authorities can't shut down glbse [14:37]
StarenseN it's also a marketing experience I think [14:37]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: fuck nefario [14:37]
Diablo-D3 fucking asshole [14:38]
Diablo-D3 hes basically ruined bitcoin [14:38]
Uglux +1 giga [14:38]
gigavps people keep asking why i have a claims process [14:38]
gigavps well, i don't want to end up like nefario and GLBSE [14:38]
Diablo-D3 Im still wondering if I should go ahead with dmc 2.0 or not [14:39]
gigavps Diablo-D3, if you don't have a lawyer and a plan, that should tell you want to do, then....... [14:41]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: that actually is on the plan [14:41]
Diablo-D3 LLC registered in the state of maine, an actual office that isnt in my home, a lawyer, an accountant [14:42]
Diablo-D3 and before you ask why maine, because its a lot easier to talk the state into doing things when you actually pay taxes here [14:43]
Diablo-D3 and maine needs this more than any of the other states [14:44]
jurov hi all [14:45]
jurov so erik decided to drop the bomb when neither me nor mp is around [14:45]
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Diablo-D3 what bomb? [14:45]
StarenseN the news [14:45]
jurov he IPO'd at 0.0044 [14:46]
Uglux https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1504386#msg1504386 [14:46]
Diablo-D3 what was he ipoing? [14:46]
jurov looky: http://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx [14:46]
Diablo-D3 oh [14:46]
Diablo-D3 so erik = evoorhees? [14:46]
Diablo-D3 and evorhees owns sdcie? [14:47]
jurov yes [14:47]
jurov yes [14:47]
StarenseN not exactly [14:47]
StarenseN but yes [14:47]
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Diablo-D3 so why is he selling shares? [14:47]
Diablo-D3 sdice has no equity [14:48]
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Diablo-D3 I dunno, I wonder how feasable it is to raise about 10 million dollars [14:51]
Diablo-D3 ;;ticker [14:52]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 20.60667, Best ask: 20.64899, Bid-ask spread: 0.04232, Last trade: 20.60667, 24 hour volume: 39228.27897107, 24 hour low: 19.85502, 24 hour high: 20.70000, 24 hour vwap: 20.32508 [14:52]
Diablo-D3 ;;calc 10000000 / 20 [14:53]
gribble 500000 [14:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.759 = 4.554 BTC [-] [14:56]
Diablo-D3 sigh. [14:57]
Diablo-D3 maybe I should just guarantee something like 5% APY over a 10 year period [14:57]
gigavps Diablo-D3, sound like you need to speak with a lawyer [14:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00068178 = 2.6249 BTC [-] [15:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00069797 = 6.6656 BTC [+] [15:03]
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leotreasure i'm going to ask a lawyer some questions re investing in S.DICE [15:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1771 @ 0.00069994 = 1.2396 BTC [+] [15:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6074 @ 0.0007 = 4.2518 BTC [+] [15:10]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: eventually, yes [15:14]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: the problem is, the bitcoin community just doesnt have the cash [15:14]
Diablo-D3 I dont even know where most of the coins are [15:14]
Diablo-D3 I imagine they've been lost [15:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00069509 = 3.6492 BTC [-] [15:17]
Namworld They travelled from hand to hand, to end up being gambled and lost on SatoshiDice [15:19]
jurov and paid on dividends :P [15:19]
Uglux the great bitcoinmixer: sdice ^^ [15:20]
gigavps Diablo-D3, "the bitcoin community just doesnt have the cash" is an absurd statement [15:21]
gigavps sdice just collected another $60k [15:21]
jurov to borrow from mp "most everyone" doesn't have the cash [15:21]
gigavps avalon just collected $1m [15:22]
gigavps you are in a community where the main topic is a new form of currency / bartering / trading [15:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068142 = 2.9444 BTC [-] [15:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.007 = 7 BTC [+] [15:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6829 @ 0.00068141 = 4.6533 BTC [-] [15:29]
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Diablo-D3 ;;last [15:30]
gribble [05:29:15] [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6829 @ 0.00068141 = 4.6533 BTC [-] [15:30]
Diablo-D3 heh [15:30]
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Namworld Hello thick [15:33]
ThickAsTh Hey thanks [15:33]
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Namworld Not much happening at this time of the day however. [15:43]
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ThickAsTh Hehe, indeed, I just wanted to make sure I was in the loop [15:43]
Namworld Most active around 8pm - 2 am Eastern Time I'd say [15:43]
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ThickAsTh Cool [15:43]
Namworld As for me well... I'm out for today [15:43]
ThickAsTh Did you get a chance to nab new shares on S.DICE? [15:43]
Namworld With the S.DICE stuff I haven't slept all night. [15:43]
Namworld Yeah, I nabbed almost 50k [15:44]
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mjr__ hi all [15:44]
mjr__ crazy morning huh? [15:44]
Namworld hello mjr [15:44]
jurov hi mjr__ [15:44]
ThickAsTh yeah me too, I slept about 3 hrs [15:44]
Namworld yeah [15:44]
mjr__ you guys on reddit? [15:44]
mjr__ ugh [15:44]
jurov yea some of us [15:44]
ThickAsTh i had to wait for BTC to clear to send to DeadTerra [15:45]
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ThickAsTh haven't heard from Dead as to whether he was able to make trhe purchase for me in time... [15:45]
jurov mjr__: can you pls help me to wrap my head around https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118551.msg1504855#msg1504855 ? [15:45]
Namworld Eh, it's hard moving fast through a broker [15:45]
jurov or anyone else... how to make out open interest on mpex options? [15:45]
jurov just add the volume for all options sold in this month? [15:46]
jurov i don't get it [15:46]
ThickAsTh yeah, I actually saw it the moment erik posted them and pm'd Dead, but he didn't sign on for 2 or 3 hours [15:46]
mjr__ not sure how we can calculate it [15:46]
mjr__ but it basically means how many contracts exist [15:46]
mjr__ ie. how many options are currently out there [15:46]
mjr__ i sell an option...in order to do that someone has to buy it [15:47]
Namworld And as you might know Thick, I also run BTC-BOND & I am co-partner in BitVPS [15:47]
Namworld and on a darker note, I also run BTC-MINING [15:47]
mjr__ so, as these are not "settled" ie. i haven't exercised he hasn't been assigned [15:47]
jurov hmmm... so if mpoe bot buys back option issued by itself earlier [15:47]
jurov it decreases the open interest [15:47]
jurov ? [15:47]
mjr__ yeah i am not exactly sure how many contracts mpoe is writing [15:47]
ThickAsTh cool, I don't know much about BRCBOND, but I have looked at BitVPS [15:48]
Diablo-D3 EskimoBob_afk: none of them managed to derail the effort to bring BTC to $1000 [15:48]
Diablo-D3 nefario did [15:48]
ThickAsTh I actually have a small hosting business, using Rackspace [15:48]
Namworld I have one of those too, owned personally [15:48]
mjr__ so anyway, that;s all open interest is, but i don't know how to calculate it in this case [15:48]
Namworld I might have too much stuff going on. [15:49]
mjr__ it would be related in some way to the volume [15:49]
jurov mjr__ okay, is uspected that. will discuss it with MP. [15:49]
ThickAsTh yeah, being "into" bitcoin definitely crowds your time too [15:49]
Namworld http://www.namworld.net/ is the url [15:50]
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Diablo-D3 EskimoBob_afk: who knows [15:51]
Diablo-D3 I did? wow. I wish someone would have told me. [15:52]
ThickAsTh @nam cool, i'll check it out [15:52]
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Diablo-D3 yes, x ? y : z [15:53]
Namworld If I can get Amazingrando to pay back, that would be good news for DMC. [15:53]
Diablo-D3 its short for if than else [15:53]
Namworld considering DMC's BTC-MINING holdings [15:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.72 = 3.6 BTC [-] [15:54]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: yes [15:55]
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Namworld Lending was a bad idea. Even if Amazingrando is in the US. [15:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4471 @ 0.00068141 = 3.0466 BTC [-] [16:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00068126 = 6.2676 BTC [-] [16:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00068068 = 6.1942 BTC [-] [16:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.0006801 = 6.1746 BTC [-] [16:02]
Namworld ok, well I'm off for real this time. [16:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00068408 = 3.328 BTC [+] [16:08]
mjr__ so, is the consensus generally positive on the release of more shares? [16:10]
mjr__ talking about S.DICE [16:10]
maximian nope [16:10]
mjr__ why is that? [16:10]
maximian lots of reasons [16:11]
mjr__ If someone gives out 100% of profits... [16:11]
maximian for me, it's because I didn't like seeing my s.dice portfolio drop 40% in an instant [16:11]
mjr__ how do they expand? [16:11]
mjr__ you should be holding it for the ridiculous dividends [16:12]
maximian all he had to do was set the next at market price [16:12]
mjr__ and then compete with everyone else [16:12]
maximian 0.0073 or so [16:12]
mjr__ his goal was to raise money [16:12]
maximian yeah [16:12]
mjr__ that would be stupid for him [16:12]
maximian not at all [16:12]
maximian that's how MP does it with MPOE [16:12]
mjr__ he wants to raise more cash so he can take more bets [16:12]
maximian it's not for bets [16:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.0006801 = 0.9664 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.0006801 = 1.4139 BTC [-] [16:12]
mjr__ and he set the price higher than the last offering [16:12]
maximian it's for one of his shareholders [16:12]
maximian some secret shareholder [16:13]
maximian personal use [16:13]
mjr__ with higher prices for each next round [16:13]
mjr__ obviously the price will go back to prior levels [16:13]
maximian it's totally destabilized now [16:13]
mjr__ but if you increase supply, but keep price the same... [16:13]
mjr__ what would happen to price [16:13]
maximian 1M shares were gobbled up by people who had the spare BTC, now they're being dumped [16:13]
mjr__ ok [16:14]
maximian for instant profit [16:14]
mjr__ that's fine [16:14]
maximian the new equilibrium will be in the 0.005 - 0.006 range [16:14]
mjr__ as long as SDICE gets the capital it needs to expand [16:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.72 = 5.76 BTC [-] [16:14]
mjr__ they will release more dividends [16:14]
mjr__ and the value will increase again [16:14]
maximian this isn't for expansion [16:14]
mjr__ are you sure? [16:15]
maximian the sale was for one of the Satoshi Dice owners [16:15]
maximian yes [16:15]
maximian He said so earlier in this channel [16:15]
mjr__ oh, similar to how a startup needs to do more offerings so that original investors can liquidate? [16:15]
maximian I suppose [16:15]
ThickAsTh For me it was exciting and frustrating, [16:15]
mjr__ yeah, i'm not worried [16:15]
mjr__ it's like people are saying sure the golden goose lays golden eggs...but it just won't suck my d*** too [16:16]
mjr__ i hate it! [16:16]
mjr__ lol [16:16]
maximian no [16:16]
ThickAsTh I spent half my current investment coins yesterday, at about .0072 [16:16]
mjr__ ah ok [16:16]
ThickAsTh so it sucks to know i missed by like 10 hours [16:16]
maximian I reinvested my considerable dividends back in at prices much higher than 0.0044 [16:16]
mjr__ that is true [16:16]
maximian I reinvested because I believe in the long term value [16:16]
mjr__ yes so do i [16:16]
maximian that value was properly reflected in the share price [16:16]
maximian the share price was irrationally lowered on a whim by the *owner* [16:17]
mjr__ i still think that the value is very low [16:17]
mjr__ it wasn't irrational [16:17]
maximian yes, it's terribly low [16:17]
mjr__ if you release that much at the current price, you still tank the stock [16:17]
pigeons it was irrational. even for his own self interest [16:17]
mjr__ oh yeah demand is here, have a ton more supply [16:17]
mjr__ price will stay the same [16:17]
mjr__ how would that work? [16:17]
ThickAsTh and now I'm waiting to hear back from DeadTerra as to whether he was able to make the purchase for me at .0044 [16:18]
ThickAsTh is there a way to look that up on MPEX? [16:18]
mjr__ hmmm [16:18]
ThickAsTh (i'm not a mpex member, i am going thru passthroughs) [16:18]
mjr__ yeah me too for now [16:18]
maximian You don't expect the owner to black swan his own stock [16:18]
mjr__ through HAVELOCK? [16:18]
mjr__ it's not a black swan [16:18]
mjr__ first of all [16:18]
maximian even though it's within his rights [16:19]
mjr__ it is trading well above both first and second offerings [16:19]
maximian the market was rational - nobody was going to dump 1M shares at 0.0044 [16:19]
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mjr__ he is releasing more shares.... [16:19]
mjr__ so if you didn't get in, it's not too late [16:19]
pigeons it seems like evorhees is saying we were undervaluing the risks [16:19]
ThickAsTh I have shares in all the passthrus I think, Havelock was easy to unload last night, there was no action, so I sold all my shares there at over .70 on open bids [16:19]
maximian yes, and he should have done it the was MP does it - buy offering them at a small % higher than the market price [16:19]
ThickAsTh it's still riding high this morning too at Havelock [16:19]
vampireb is he selling them below the market? [16:20]
mjr__ dollar cost averaging [16:20]
mjr__ i bought what i thought was a good deal at 7 [16:20]
mjr__ horrible deal at 4? [16:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00689996 = 10.3499 BTC [-] [16:20]
mjr__ or heck yeah, i get to double my position for less [16:21]
mjr__ i guess everyone is looking at sdice like a growth stock [16:21]
mjr__ while i would buy and hold it just for the yield [16:21]
pigeons the person in the best position to know has signaled in the only way that matters, with his cash, that the price was too high [16:21]
maximian It's a huge growth stock [16:21]
mjr__ yes it can be [16:21]
mjr__ but i would not look for return by appreciation, to me that is the bonus [16:22]
maximian It could be worth 10s of millions. 1.2M BTC in handle just last month is *astonishing* [16:22]
mjr__ of course, it's amazinhg [16:22]
mjr__ but the yield is ridiculous [16:22]
ThickAsTh it just hurts this first time, because it was so abrupt [16:22]
mjr__ true [16:22]
maximian for a small gambling concern that's restricted to just bitcoiners [16:22]
mjr__ adjustments are tough [16:22]
ThickAsTh now I know that the shares need to stay at values that are more liquid [16:22]
mjr__ yes, there was too big a spread [16:22]
ThickAsTh and holding shares at the end of the month becomes much more valuable than at the beginning [16:23]
mjr__ and i honestly think he wants to give peple more opportunity to get it [16:23]
mjr__ lol that is the way its supposed to be [16:23]
maximian the problem is, he has other owners now [16:23]
mjr__ last dividend day the stock didn't move [16:23]
maximian so he has to consider what we want too [16:23]
mjr__ non voting shares [16:23]
maximian and I don't care about giving other people the opportunity to get in [16:23]
mjr__ you vote by buying and selling [16:23]
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ThickAsTh what do you think the value will be set at for the next 4million shares he's releasing? [16:24]
maximian Anyway, Eric heard our bitching last night. He says he understands and that he didn't think it all through. [16:24]
ThickAsTh good to hear [16:24]
maximian So the next tranches will be priced a lot higher [16:25]
mjr__ i was thinking that he will progressively price them higher [16:25]
pigeons unless he really needs the money right then [16:25]
mjr__ and hopefully he can walk the price back up [16:25]
ThickAsTh it was so close to being an awesome move, but was definitely awkward to say the least [16:25]
mjr__ yes, i mean this was 1.5 traunches [16:25]
mjr__ sorry: 1/5 [16:25]
ThickAsTh yeah [16:25]
ThickAsTh so he'll probably due a .005 increase for each one [16:26]
ThickAsTh sry [16:26]
ThickAsTh .0005 [16:26]
pigeons that would be if he thinks about it [16:26]
ThickAsTh hehe [16:26]
mjr__ so i think to increase the float by 50% you need to expect a certain amount of volatility but it will be good in the long run [16:26]
mjr__ i think peple who are bullish on SDICE will be happy [16:27]
ThickAsTh yeah [16:27]
mjr__ because this is a good long term move [16:27]
mjr__ i think [16:27]
maximian I am bullish for sure [16:27]
maximian And it did need more liquidity [16:27]
mjr__ i mean for sure growing pains [16:27]
mjr__ and maybe i came across as defensive, but i was on reddit and people were all BREACH OF CONTRACT [16:27]
mjr__ when they wouldn't know how to read a financial document if it was written in crayon [16:27]
maximian but it could have been done more slowly! I like smooth transitions. [16:27]
mjr__ i suppose that is true [16:28]
mjr__ he could have sent a letter to the shareholders with his future plans [16:28]
maximian The breach of contract thing was because the relevant clause was a little ambiguous. We had a debated about it here several hours ago. MP cleared it up: no breach. [16:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.6 BTC [-] [16:29]
mjr__ i know [16:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 13.5001 BTC [-] [16:29]
mjr__ but i mean there are so many scammers around that i guess people are nervous [16:29]
maximian It's still a great deal… but now there's a bit of a trust issue that might keep the price down for a while. [16:29]
mjr__ but i think that mp and ev are the good guys [16:29]
mjr__ i hope so [16:29]
mjr__ i want to get in :) [16:29]
jurov i vote for "lawful evil" :D [16:30]
mjr__ i have a 1 year mentality with this stock [16:30]
mjr__ so i can't wait to see where it's at in 2013 [16:30]
mjr__ i meant 2014 [16:30]
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ThickAsTh the stock price will be fine too, these shares have one of the best dividends out there, people will keep snatching them up [16:31]
maximian The dividends are awesome, no doubt [16:31]
mjr__ people would kill for these returns [16:31]
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mjr__ or make a billion dollars a year in a hedge fund [16:31]
ThickAsTh Are there other stocks that pay this well? [16:32]
mjr__ not that i know of [16:32]
mjr__ mpoe is good [16:32]
mjr__ and i like btc-bond [16:32]
ThickAsTh but riskier right? [16:32]
pigeons less risky [16:32]
mjr__ since it is not quite as risky [16:32]
ThickAsTh ah [16:32]
mjr__ ie. debt vs equity [16:32]
ThickAsTh last div was what 10% or so? [16:32]
ThickAsTh which i read was higher than it would normally be [16:33]
ThickAsTh i was tryiong to follow along but dont knwo much about the stock [16:33]
pigeons price has been about 4% monthly yield [16:33]
pigeons but profits can change big quickly [16:34]
pigeons one month satoshidice lost money and paid no dividends, and the losses came out of next months dividends profits [16:34]
ThickAsTh Do you know anything about this JAH stock on Bitfunder? [16:35]
ThickAsTh it has pretty high returns [16:35]
pigeons mining stuff [16:35]
ThickAsTh so any week now the valeu will drop off for it [16:35]
pigeons seems likely [16:35]
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jurov better to buy anti-mining stuff like iDiffs ;) [16:38]
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mjr__ btw...you can make good money market making sdice [16:43]
mjr__ i believe the spread is over 30% [16:43]
mjr__ 32.69% to be exact [16:43]
jurov i'm really not sure, the price is all but stable. so you need big reserve both on s.dice and btc side to dip into [16:44]
mjr__ does anyone know the timeframe for the remaining 4 traunches though? [16:44]
jurov better just go long and receive divs [16:44]
mjr__ you can do both...but i agree [16:44]
mjr__ what i meant is you can hopefully just buy and sell, higher than rebuy again lower [16:45]
pigeons so put your market making bids in, watch them get filled while your asks sit, then watch another traunch get put up below your bid [16:45]
kakobrekla > On Tue, 05 Feb 13 06:25:53 +0000 S.DICE - 1`000 bought @0.00420000 BTC, [16:45]
kakobrekla lol [16:45]
mjr__ with the ultimate goal of increasing your position, but also creating liquidity [16:45]
pigeons kakobrekla: that was me [16:45]
jurov and i think the plan is not known... evoorhees seems to like to suddenly sneak in the middle of night [16:45]
kakobrekla pigeons?? [16:45]
mjr__ hehehe [16:46]
mjr__ makes it exciting [16:46]
kakobrekla you sold me at 0042? [16:46]
pigeons no i bought [16:46]
mjr__ also...the point of market making is...i will always have the current bid and current ask [16:46]
kakobrekla cause i bought too at that. [16:46]
kakobrekla i pasted my filled bid. [16:46]
pigeons oh sorry [16:46]
pigeons that was you [16:46]
kakobrekla np :) [16:46]
pigeons this was me [16:46]
mjr__ i can go one in front of either side [16:46]
pigeons On Tue, 05 Feb 13 06:25:53 +0000 S.DICE - 1`000 bought @0.00420001 BTC [16:46]
kakobrekla haha [16:46]
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pigeons :) [16:47]
awkorama_ mjr__: hi, please respond to my query [16:47]
jurov mjr__ that's crystal clear to me. just that this market often likes to keep going to one side till the bot exhausts it allotment [16:47]
maximian a market maker would be great [16:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.0006801 = 5.0327 BTC [-] [16:49]
mjr__ jurov: good point [16:49]
maximian but you'd need pretty deep pockets and a lot of guts [16:49]
mjr__ also...to the people who felt that they lost value...were you planning on selling, or even more specifically did you have sell orders on the books? [16:50]
pigeons i had buy orders on the books, higher than what erik put the shares up at [16:51]
ThickAsTh You can make the markets on the passthrus pretty easily [16:51]
pigeons so i did lose money there [16:51]
mjr__ yes true [16:51]
ThickAsTh I laid out a fat chunk yesterday at .0072 :/ [16:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0052 = 2.6 BTC [-] [16:52]
mjr__ my only point was that if you were bearish on the stock and trying to get out of the horrible position of making upwards of 30% dividends, then yes you lost [16:52]
ThickAsTh but I have another fat chunk to spend today [16:52]
mjr__ if you actually like the stock and want to keep what you have and get more, this is great news [16:52]
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ThickAsTh but what was the right play last night, [16:53]
mjr__ since i believe that most people like this stock, i think they should view the opportunity to get more for less as a good thing [16:53]
ThickAsTh on a passthru, [16:53]
ThickAsTh 1. Liquidate your passthru shares down to about .6 and try to buy in at lower [16:53]
ThickAsTh 2. Hold shares and buy only with liquid BTC you have [16:54]
ThickAsTh Bullish [16:54]
topace_ so what was with the lowball ask order last night? [16:54]
topace_ i wish i wasnt asleep at the time [16:54]
ThickAsTh .0044 [16:54]
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ThickAsTh a million shares [16:54]
pigeons topace_: evorhees sold more shares [16:54]
topace_ of his 90%? so now, like 11% are on the market? and 89% are "private" ? [16:55]
ThickAsTh pretty much [16:55]
ThickAsTh and h plans to release 4 more rounds of 1m [16:55]
pigeons topace_: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1504386#msg1504386 [16:55]
ThickAsTh he* [16:55]
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mjr__ public float increases to 15% [16:59]
mjr__ has anyone seen coins for pizza? [16:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10521 @ 0.0006801 = 7.1553 BTC [-] [16:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1429 @ 0.00068007 = 0.9718 BTC [-] [16:59]
mjr__ i think that was a huge win for this community [16:59]
pigeons good, bad, or indifferent, "huge win for this community" is fanboi [17:00]
ThickAsTh You see the Amazon Coins thing? [17:00]
topace_ with no warning whatsoever, that was lame [17:01]
topace_ "im releasing shares, first million up.. NOW! GO!" [17:01]
awkorama_ I have seen it, did anyone try it ? [17:01]
topace_ thats not how you run a business [17:01]
pigeons topace_: we let evorhees know that last night, he says he will try to price more appropriately in the future [17:01]
topace_ and no indication when the NEXT ones will come out? [17:01]
topace_ just "in the future" [17:01]
pigeons within days [17:01]
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pigeons so that should keep people from buying too high cause who knows what he will price the next ones at [17:03]
ThickAsTh pretty much [17:05]
ThickAsTh now that we've been through it, I kinda don't want the next 4 tranches to be more than .0044 [17:08]
mjr__ yes, i want to get in as big as possible [17:10]
topace_ at what time was it listed on mpex last night? [17:10]
ThickAsTh like 11pm EST, maybe a little later? [17:11]
pigeons round then [17:11]
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topace_ yea, just when i went to bed [17:17]
topace_ bastard :p [17:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00068007 = 5.0808 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00068 = 4.0317 BTC [-] [17:19]
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kakobrekla let the drama continiue. [17:20]
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jurov yeah... everyone cashing out of s.mpoe to be ready [17:21]
aiball so, did that huge wall at 44 get bought, or cancelled? [17:21]
jurov it got bought. in 2 hrs or so [17:21]
aiball wow [17:22]
ThickAsTh I'm going on the record to say that everyone overreacted last night [17:22]
ThickAsTh the stock devaluation is as temporary as the shareholders choose for it to be [17:22]
topace_ yea but it also puts an artificial ceiling on the price, until the 5 million are all released [17:23]
topace_ because nobody will buy at "what used to be the market rate: ~0.0070" knowing he's going to be releasing more "well below" [17:23]
pigeons yep [17:24]
topace_ its temporary, sure, but it'll be at least a few weeks before we get back to 0.70.. even if he does one a day for the next 4 days... that'll severly deplete peoples buying power (or the amount they're willing to dump into this) [17:25]
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pigeons and make you wonder that if evoorhees is willing to sell at that price, maybe that is closer to an accurate pricing of the risks [17:25]
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StarenseN [09:31] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 210000 @ 0.0044 = 924 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:31] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 227272 @ 0.0044 = 999.9968 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:37] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 92512 @ 0.0044 = 407.0528 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:37] <@assbot> [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.5321 = 6.3852 BTC [-] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:44] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 92512 @ 0.0044 = 407.0528 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:45] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 20 @ 0.0044 = 0.088 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:46] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 227272 @ 0.0044 = 999.9968 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:46] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0044 = 0.0132 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:47] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2721 @ 0.00069971 = 1.9039 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:47] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00069999 = 1.526 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:47] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5449 @ 0.0007 = 3.8143 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:48] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 16831 @ 0.0044 = 74.0564 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:50] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0044 = 0.88 BTC [+] [17:26]
StarenseN [09:52] <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17179 @ 0.0044 = 75.5876 BTC [+] [17:26]
pigeons StarenseN: apologise [17:26]
StarenseN around 800K in 20 min when mircea_popescu woke up and proceed the deposit :) [17:27]
mjr__ wow lol [17:27]
jurov it pays off to keep irc bouncer [17:27]
jurov i woke up, started reading up and it made my day [17:28]
StarenseN indeed [17:29]
StarenseN be part of the buyers made mine ^^ [17:29]
pigeons jurov: can you do a quick for dummies on CoinBr.MPBPT-E? 0.1005 implies 5% MPBOR? Do we need to know what you bid at to know what number to expect? [17:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2685 @ 0.00068408 = 1.8368 BTC [+] [17:31]
jurov pigeons, 0.1005 is just a current price. you buy at that price, I will invest 0.1 into MPOE bond. [17:32]
jurov whatever the price is [17:32]
jurov now, when mpoe liquidates, i'll pay exactly 0.1*MPBOR (or less if there was some loss) [17:33]
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jurov so if you got 0.1005 in the end of the month, that would mean that MPOE net profit was only 0.5% [17:33]
pigeons thanks, tough for me to follow sometimes [17:35]
jurov if MPOE makes 5% , each share liquidates on 0.105 . if it loses 10%, each share gets 0.09 only [17:35]
pigeons ah [17:35]
jurov and that's also reason why doing "normal" assets that will continously run through and just pay divs is difficult [17:36]
jurov we'd have to ask negative dividends if mpoe loses :D [17:36]
jurov better liquidate it every month [17:36]
pigeons gotcha [17:36]
pigeons need a demmurage feature ;) [17:37]
jurov yes there were some inquiries, but nobody could figure out what to insure it with. ur welcome [17:38]
mjr__ i need to do a local bitcoin for cash today [17:40]
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jurov lol 8k arrived to mpex in past few hours...prepare for wild ride [17:47]
jurov http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx [17:47]
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ThickAsTh just got the good news from my man DeadTerra, he was able to snag some shares for me last night :D [17:50]
vampireb_ where? [17:53]
vampireb_ couldnt wait for that one [17:53]
vampireb_ ic in your thread [17:54]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+] [18:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10251 @ 0.00068589 = 7.0311 BTC [+] [18:11]
Bugpowder reddit really is where the idiots of the internet hang out [18:14]
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aiball juror - do you have one of those blockchain.info urls for sdice 50% I tried to replace the address but not getting a chart [18:17]
aiball jurov [18:17]
Bugpowder at least the 4chan people don't take themselves seriously [18:17]
jurov aiball, search for the address normally [18:18]
jurov and then click the icon next to Balance to get graph [18:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069967 = 3.0233 BTC [+] [18:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10702 @ 0.00069999 = 7.4913 BTC [+] [18:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00689996 = 1.38 BTC [+] [18:22]
Bugpowder lol [18:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069981 = 3.0239 BTC [-] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9298 @ 0.00069999 = 6.5085 BTC [+] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 581 @ 0.00069999 = 0.4067 BTC [+] [18:29]
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evoorhees https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1505462#msg1505462 [18:35]
Bugpowder moar shares please [18:36]
Bugpowder .0055 [18:36]
Bugpowder uh oh [18:36]
evoorhees is that good or bad? [18:37]
Bugpowder it will never sell [18:37]
Bugpowder it should be like .0034 :) [18:37]
evoorhees lol [18:37]
evoorhees man I can't win [18:37]
Bugpowder or .0046 [18:37]
Bugpowder :) [18:37]
evoorhees well look... smart investors should want me to sell it as low as possible [18:37]
Bugpowder no shit [18:38]
evoorhees so you bugpowder are being very rational, thank you [18:38]
Bugpowder i wish i didn't sleep through the last batch [18:38]
jurov and i wish i'll be able to sleep tonight... it will be 4am here [18:39]
Bugpowder just place a bid up [18:40]
jurov ;;calc 1e6*.0055 [18:40]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [18:40]
jurov ;;calc 1e6*0.0055 [18:40]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [18:40]
jurov ;;calc 1e6 * 0.0055 [18:40]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [18:40]
Bugpowder 5500 [18:40]
jurov and 8000 already deposited on mpex lol [18:40]
Bugpowder god damn it [18:40]
Bugpowder all five are going to go quickly [18:41]
evoorhees lol dumping? [18:41]
evoorhees one min [18:42]
Bugpowder EskimoBob_afk: why did you do a second offering of ART? [18:42]
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Bugpowder yep [18:45]
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evoorhees back, sorry [18:47]
evoorhees eskimo - releasing 5% of the shares on mpex is hardly "dumping" [18:47]
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evoorhees further, as I've mentioned, there are a few private holders. Don't assume that this 5% is from me. [18:48]
thestringpuller evoorhees: i sent you pm if you have time [18:48]
evoorhees eskimo - the volume is not based on those wales alone [18:48]
jurov evoorhees: no need to argue with him... for him we re all just MP's sockpuppets anyway [18:49]
evoorhees the base volume is increasingly substantially, and the whales seem to come out for a week or two each month [18:49]
evoorhees I don't mind explaining my actions to him [18:49]
evoorhees and if he's an owner, then I owe it to him [18:49]
evoorhees And there is a big difference between me and Trendon. One business was opaque, the other transparent. [18:50]
evoorhees nobody knew how he was making "profits" [18:50]
evoorhees and yet they bought anyway [18:50]
evoorhees SD is a gambling site, it earns 1.9%, easy [18:50]
evoorhees you're wrong [18:51]
evoorhees but it's good to be skeptical [18:52]
evoorhees If everyone in the bitcoin community was as skeptical as you, it'd be a healthier community [18:52]
evoorhees and honestly, the whales do look suspicious... or at least I thought so until I went to Macau and saw people playing baccarat for 36 hrs straight with $50,000 chips [18:54]
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StarenseN evoorhees quick question, are you belgian ? Any chance to see you back in belgium to promote bitcoin or ? [18:57]
evoorhees the name is dutch [18:57]
evoorhees but I've never been there [18:57]
StarenseN you're american ? [18:57]
evoorhees only been to london, paris, and vienna in europe [18:57]
evoorhees yeah [18:57]
evoorhees unfortunately [18:58]
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StarenseN alright, belgium has a dutch part as well so that's why i asked myself [18:58]
jurov evoorhees, i can't imagine such people patiently bearing with bitcoin-qt.. or do they just use online wallet? [18:58]
jurov these whales [18:58]
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imsaguy maybe those whales don't even exist. [18:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0056 = 0.056 BTC [-] [19:00]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3380 @ 0.0056 = 18.928 BTC [-] [19:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2509 @ 0.0056 = 14.0504 BTC [-] [19:04]
StarenseN evoorhees are the 3 other batchs for this week as well ? [19:07]
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pigeons star trek IV was the one with the whales [19:10]
ThickAsTh Thanks again DeaDTerra [19:11]
ThickAsTh the .0001 markup on the passthroughs works nicely [19:11]
StarenseN [17:41] evoorhees: why do you sell? [19:11]
StarenseN did you answer? [19:11]
evoorhees yeah [19:11]
evoorhees "don't assume it was my shares" [19:12]
ThickAsTh I cant blame you at all, its a modest markup surely [19:13]
evoorhees Actually... consider that another private owner may have sold me more than 5%, and thus I actually increased my position [19:13]
StarenseN haha [19:14]
StarenseN at a good price so [19:14]
ThickAsTh While I'm sure we could come up with a number of reasons, I'm betting Bob wants the exact one [19:14]
pigeons evoorhees: so you and several partners own the unreleased S.DICE shares? And you and the other owners can sell your interest because you're selling it to the public via shares? Is that what makes it different from rapeghost selling his interest in S.BVPS? [19:16]
evoorhees I don't know the rapeghost case [19:16]
pigeons mircea_popescu: or did rapeghost have different ownership change provisions in its contract with mpex than satoshi dice has [19:16]
evoorhees but yes me and several others own the (now 89%) of S.DICE that is not on MPEX [19:17]
ThickAsTh I thought it was on MPEX ;) [19:17]
jcpham i see the difference [19:18]
jcpham bitvps was 100% public [19:18]
jcpham iirc [19:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [19:18]
jcpham where is the original bitvps contract [19:18]
evoorhees yes to be technically accurate, I have 39m shares of s.dice on mpex (these became available a few days ago, which was 30 days after the final sale of the ipo shares) [19:18]
pigeons oh i didnt know that. ithought all mpex stocks were non voting shares enforced by keeping 51% of the shares private [19:18]
evoorhees so 50m shares are just "theoretical" and 50m shares are on MPEX [19:19]
evoorhees correct deadterra [19:19]
jcpham yay for fun maths! [19:19]
evoorhees pigeons - yes that's true [19:19]
evoorhees I can't sell 50% on mpex [19:19]
evoorhees only 49.999% or whatever [19:19]
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pigeons jcpham: (c) The Directors warrant that no further shares will be offered by them for a period of 30 days from the date these offered shares are sold. The Directors further warrant that they will never sell more than half the total shares. [19:20]
pigeons http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BVPS [19:20]
jcpham looks like the directors fucked up [19:20]
jcpham iana though [19:20]
evoorhees jcpham how? [19:20]
pigeons evoorhees: rapeghost sold more than half the shares [19:21]
evoorhees oh thought you were talking about s.dice [19:21]
jcpham no evoorhees [19:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0056 = 28 BTC [-] [19:21]
jcpham what pigeons said [19:21]
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jcpham the previous owner of bitvps entered into a contract and then broke it [19:22]
jcpham iana though [19:22]
evoorhees was that on glbse? [19:22]
jcpham mpex [19:22]
imsaguy he wasn't allowed to sell [19:22]
imsaguy and then did [19:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0055 BTC [-] [19:22]
jcpham that's how it reads to me [19:22]
imsaguy all without even consulting the other major owner [19:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 775 @ 0.0056 = 4.34 BTC [+] [19:23]
imsaguy so technically, one could argue the sale wasn't legal [19:23]
jurov rg did not sold it [19:23]
jcpham that's backstory but... yeah [19:23]
imsaguy he didn't have enough votes. [19:23]
jurov rg just left everything to new owhers for free [19:23]
jurov including his own gpg key [19:23]
jcpham ^ [19:23]
imsaguy he isn't allowed to do that either. [19:23]
imsaguy selling for 0 consideration is still 0. [19:23]
imsaguy err, selling [19:23]
pigeons hnope [19:23]
imsaguy he didn't just give. [19:24]
imsaguy pigeons: technically, nothing in bitcoin is sold unless there is $1. [19:24]
pigeons well, good enough for me [19:24]
imsaguy but there isn't. [19:24]
evoorhees imsaguy what do you mean? [19:24]
jurov cause he wanted hard to be employed, have the career and be able to fire people instead of boring task of running bitvps :DDD [19:24]
pigeons no consideration can be more than currency/dollars [19:24]
imsaguy evoorhees, its just barter unless there's dollars. [19:25]
pigeons but at any rate, everyone acknowledges th ownership transfer and its working out well for everyone except the investors (that leaves customers and new owners) [19:25]
jcpham it seems to me that similar to what dell has just done [19:25]
jcpham bitvps would need to do the same [19:25]
imsaguy aye [19:25]
jcpham buyout, go private [19:25]
pigeons no barter is contractual sale [19:25]
imsaguy the old shareholders would need to be bought out. [19:26]
jcpham to meet the mpex contract, that is [19:26]
imsaguy and you can't jus force them to sell [19:26]
imsaguy unless its in the contract [19:26]
jcpham and it isn't [19:26]
pigeons hey, who expected half as much from rg anyway [19:26]
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pigeons no offense at all rg [19:26]
imsaguy offense intended rg [19:27]
jcpham the gpg key thing is not excusable [19:27]
jcpham i can't trust him [19:27]
pigeons cant trust his old key [19:27]
imsaguy aye [19:27]
jurov i don't mind rg at this point, worse enw owners are equally inept [19:27]
imsaguy he isn't his key [19:27]
pigeons cant trust him not to break contracts, thats true [19:27]
jurov they still didn't decide whether they'll list or not [19:28]
imsaguy I wanna know what grubles got out of this [19:28]
jurov "probably on btct" [19:28]
imsaguy besides the shaft [19:28]
jcpham imsaguy/query grubles [19:28]
jcpham shit [19:28]
pigeons that's why i figure [19:28]
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pigeons i think it was just time for both of them to move on, and people did get screwed and it certainly didnt have to be that way, but oh well [19:28]
jcpham seems like i have that info in a/query log [19:29]
jcpham what "he got" [19:29]
imsaguy meanwhile.. [19:29]
imsaguy screw pirate [19:29]
pigeons yeah [19:29]
pigeons dude fucked you [19:29]
imsaguy he fucked many people [19:29]
ThickAsTh BTCTC takes forever to confirm deposits [19:29]
pigeons evil [19:29]
imsaguy my own damn fault [19:30]
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pigeons its too much damn hassle paying lenders out of my 10% weekly profits, let's do "trust accounts" [19:30]
imsaguy pigeons: its one of those thigns that made sense at the time when a person is tied up into the story [19:31]
imsaguy but in hindsight, dumb as hell [19:31]
jcpham i was just looking through my grubles chat logs [19:31]
jcpham so 24.4 btc @ 8.2/per [19:32]
jcpham ill have pirate send them to you, cool? [19:32]
jcpham yep that works [19:32]
jcpham ^ retarded [19:32]
imsaguy oh, I had much better ones [19:32]
imsaguy until Western Digital failed me [19:32]
jcpham treasure trove of lulz [19:32]
jcpham some of these are pretty old I'm wondering why i still have them [19:33]
imsaguy sentimental reasons [19:33]
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jcpham so i can sue when my name isn't in the credits [19:33]
imsaguy there we go [19:34]
imsaguy let's make a movie [19:34]
imsaguy who shall we cast as pirate? [19:34]
jcpham a fat guy [19:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069981 = 3.0239 BTC [-] [19:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2779 @ 0.00069999 = 1.9453 BTC [+] [19:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.665 = 3.325 BTC [-] [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.611 = 6.11 BTC [-] [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.61 = 6.1 BTC [-] [19:39]
pigeons bill clinton [19:40]
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jurov bill clinton http://i.imgur.com/wAuwF.gif [19:41]
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ThickAsTh Erik, if you are still around, can I ask what the current & future marketing plans are for SDICE? [19:42]
evoorhees hey [19:47]
evoorhees yeah [19:47]
ThickAsTh I recall seeing info about a print ad campaign, maybe more, but that was all before my time [19:47]
ThickAsTh Just trying to get a sense of what's happening now to strike while the iron's hot [19:47]
evoorhees the plan, for now, is to get SD some good legal advice on how to proceed in the safest way possible. It is getting lots of press and free advertising, and I don't want to push it further before having all the ducks in a row [19:47]
ThickAsTh I see [19:48]
maximian evoorhees: that's great - it's been a worry of mine [19:48]
ThickAsTh So the plan is pretty much stasis while legal ducks get in a row [19:48]
truffles is there a website where i can learn about what this is all about? [19:49]
maximian You have to assume that someone at the DOJ is or will take a good look at s.dice. [19:49]
evoorhees yeah [19:49]
truffles like an s.dice how to? [19:49]
evoorhees it's an awesome brand and game, and deserves to be set up properly [19:49]
truffles i wanna be a good owl [19:49]
ThickAsTh It's funny though, because SDICE isnt really different than any video game [19:49]
ThickAsTh it bitcoins that are what they need to look at [19:50]
evoorhees it's a fair argument [19:50]
truffles and why is it that evoorhees holds 89%? [19:50]
maximian The worst case scenario is they arrest you and splash one of those stupid DOJ banners on satoshidice.com [19:50]
ThickAsTh but, either way, I think some strategic marketing would make the site really take off, when it's time [19:50]
maximian even though that doesn't necessarily stop betting, it'll be bad [19:51]
maximian even if they can't charge you with anything, damage will be done [19:51]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.618 = 11.124 BTC [+] [19:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.6121 = 6.121 BTC [-] [19:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.612 = 3.06 BTC [-] [19:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 22 @ 0.61 = 13.42 BTC [-] [19:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.6 = 27 BTC [-] [19:52]
truffles is there a utube for s.dice? [19:53]
maximian so it would be nice to know if you have a contingency plan for that [19:53]
evoorhees "The worst case scenario is they arrest you and splash one of those stupid DOJ banners on satoshidice.com" - I've taken steps to handle this [19:53]
evoorhees would be bad for me, but SD would live on [19:53]
maximian It's where the brand is presented, where you learn how to play - it's important [19:53]
evoorhees ThickAsTh - agreed [19:54]
truffles evoorhees is there a s.dice utube? [19:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.601 = 6.01 BTC [+] [19:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.6 = 12 BTC [-] [19:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.6 = 24 BTC [-] [19:54]
evoorhees no... you wanna make one? [19:54]
maximian OK. [19:54]
truffles it could be very useful for ppl like me [19:54]
truffles im not a good candidate for that [19:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.6 = 9 BTC [-] [19:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-] [19:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] [19:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] [19:55]
evoorhees anyone know anyone who makes youtube vids? [19:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1442 @ 0.00689996 = 9.9497 BTC [+] [19:58]
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truffles http://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamepanel?game=cantstop this game is fun [20:00]
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truffles makes me think of that [20:00]
ThickAsTh That is one side that is missing from SDICE, easily guiding a gambler into setting up a bitcoin wallet and sending a bet [20:06]
truffles i cant get over how bad this site design looks.. [20:06]
truffles yea im still confused about how this bitcoin setup works [20:07]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5050 @ 0.0056 = 28.28 BTC [+] [20:12]
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jcpham evoorhees i'm all over the youtubes [20:13]
evoorhees truffles you don't like the SD site? [20:14]
truffles no its terrible [20:14]
evoorhees jcpham - if you can make a good SD vid for youtube I'll be happy to send you some coins [20:15]
evoorhees maybe chat with me on skype? [20:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4657 @ 0.00068597 = 3.1946 BTC [-] [20:15]
evoorhees except that you break it every day deadterra :) [20:15]
jcpham i've never actually used skype [20:16]
jcpham i'm weird with technology [20:16]
truffles it took forever to process now my bitcoin software is still processing wth! [20:16]
jcpham so a satoshidice video... [20:16]
truffles yea do include the edge in that in vid [20:16]
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evoorhees sent pm jcpham [20:17]
topace_ mircea_popescu: still sleeping? waiting on a deposit here.... :) [20:19]
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ThickAsTh So if you jumped from .0044 to .0055, where does that leave the next 3 tranches? kinda hard to go too much further up [20:22]
ThickAsTh and the market will be down after these two also [20:22]
evoorhees .0044 clearly angered lots of people [20:25]
truffles whats a tranche? [20:25]
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ThickAsTh i dunno, it's the word everyone is using for releasing a batch of shares [20:26]
ThickAsTh :) [20:26]
pigeons .0068 looks like a good price [20:26]
ThickAsTh They won't sell at that price [20:26]
evoorhees a tranche is like a "batch" of something [20:26]
truffles so there can be infinite batches? [20:26]
evoorhees usually used when talking about financial assets [20:26]
grubles DeaDTerra: he wants to personally rub your bitcoins between his fingers to check if they are counterfeit or not [20:27]
evoorhees we'll see how things go with .0055 [20:27]
evoorhees I'll post ahead of time for any other tranches [20:27]
ThickAsTh theyre already sold in theory [20:27]
ThickAsTh isnt there like 800k depsoited to MPEX waiting? [20:28]
ThickAsTh hehe [20:28]
gesell after some thought, on the whole s.dice share thing... maybe it's a good thing that people are forced to think in terms of long term investment (mostly for dividends) rather than traditional stocks. i;d be happy if you would under sell every time. at the moment bitcoin stocks are still, well, they shouldnt be assumed the same [20:28]
truffles seems ppl arent happy about random tranche announcements [20:29]
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truffles so i wonder if there is a fixed amount that can be done [20:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 180 @ 0.00689996 = 1.242 BTC [+] [20:29]
gesell truffles: but there really isnt a better way [20:29]
gesell people arent happy because they didnt get "their" share of the opportunity. but it doesnt matter if they are announced in advance or not, its going to be dificult [20:29]
jcpham evoorhees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bFEap2TNB8 [20:30]
jcpham i make videos where i endanger others [20:30]
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evoorhees gesell - I like your attitude [20:30]
pigeons set a future date when more shares are available, and say the price will be X % of X-day moving average [20:30]
ThickAsTh for the big players, announcing is ideal, for the small guys, a surprise might be better [20:30]
truffles i dunno who likes that kind of surprise.. [20:31]
ThickAsTh I did [20:31]
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gesell the point is that you are not really solving anything truffles [20:31]
ThickAsTh because i was awake and saw erik post the news [20:31]
truffles im not solving i want to understand [20:31]
evoorhees well unfortunately there is no way to tell the whole market at once [20:31]
evoorhees globe is round :( [20:31]
Anduck u cant be afk and typing [20:32]
ThickAsTh I take it Bob likes Mircea a lot [20:32]
grubles he has a way with words [20:33]
truffles gesell what was it that you think i was trying to solve though [20:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1446 @ 0.00069998 = 1.0122 BTC [+] [20:37]
ThickAsTh Posting a portion of the tranches on the passthroughs might also go a long way to keep people quiet. (Could also make things worse too I guess. Havelock price didn't fluctuate much during all this, oddly) [20:37]
gesell truffles: i get the feeling that a lot of the angst is really rooted in the fact that its hard to "get on top of that" share drop opportunity before the established players. but i dont see a way to solve that [20:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.0056 = 1.68 BTC [+] [20:38]
gesell or [20:38]
gesell the angst is in relation to people treating mpex stocks like a real stock market. and the volume isnt there for that. if this were a real stock market s.dice drop would have been closer to the market price because there would have been enough volume to eat it up. with where the volume is, it made sense where he put it. ON TOP of that, the whole idea of forcing his investors to think of s.dice stock different, not as a stock to quickly day trade on but ra [20:40]
truffles im curious why they was any rumblings, they knew the risks [20:40]
gesell im not upset at all that i bought at 0078 [20:40]
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gesell just sad that i wasnt a mpex whale that could scoop up another 20000k shares at 0044 [20:42]
gesell but that is just the difference between being a mpex player, and being a normal long term investor [20:42]
gesell which reminds me, im gonna take my dividends and reinvest now ;) [20:42]
truffles day trade on but what [20:42]
truffles finish the thought [20:42]
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gesell truffles: well not day trade, but to look at the stock as something to trade just on its value alone [20:44]
gesell i mean a lot of the s.dice drop got picked up by people that just plan to resell it. this is investment in relation to supply and demand in the market, not investment in s.dice long term, imho [20:44]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2870 @ 0.0056 = 16.072 BTC [+] [20:46]
gesell maybe i mix up words. hard to describe where i feel there is a difference in how one deals with s.dice on mpex, but there is [20:46]
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truffles to me seems like a lil niche for the nerd crowd to swap [20:46]
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gesell totally [20:47]
gesell the dividends are not however [20:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00069998 = 9.7997 BTC [+] [20:47]
evoorhees EskimoBob_afk "why did you need multiple large investors?" - some investment was needed to provide capital for the betting pool. [20:48]
evoorhees wasn't so much a "need" as a "that would be smart to do" [20:48]
evoorhees yes really, why? [20:48]
evoorhees do you know how large the bet pool is? [20:48]
evoorhees I assume you've seen the swings of several thousand BTC before :) [20:49]
jurov folks... got an idea. how much would you pay for 250 BTC on MPEx? to be able to place your order nao? [20:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.62 = 3.72 BTC [+] [20:49]
evoorhees ? [20:49]
jurov no. i can sell some S.MPOE [20:49]
jurov they are my own, not coinbr clients. [20:50]
ThickAsTh There are passthrough players already [20:50]
gesell jurov: i'd avoid it [20:50]
jurov it would at a loss, so i just threw it in what would be the offers [20:50]
truffles at what point is s.dice considered mainstream? [20:51]
ThickAsTh You know those reports that Dooglus posts daily on bitcointalk.com? Is there a way to generate some of that info on the fly? [20:51]
pigeons some point after bitcoin is [20:51]
pigeons ThickAsTh: its in the extras directory in bitcoin armory [20:51]
ThickAsTh I got that far, but I don't know jack about python [20:52]
ThickAsTh i installed it [20:52]
truffles well ppl dont understand how bitcoin works enough to just fool aroudn with so i dunno how thatll happen [20:52]
jurov gesell, why not? [20:52]
ThickAsTh and tried running the py, but it doesnt do anything [20:52]
pigeons ThickAsTh: python satoshiDiceStats.py [20:52]
pigeons it outputs a report [20:52]
ThickAsTh thanks pigeons, I'll try again [20:54]
truffles when is this utube expected to be completed with jcpham??? [20:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.62 = 18.6 BTC [+] [20:56]
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gesell jurov: well i dont know. guess go for it [20:57]
jurov that depends if anyone makes me interesting offer [20:58]
jurov so far looks like aveyone is content waiting for mp [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00069998 = 27.8592 BTC [+] [20:59]
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evoorhees No but I'm talking with a lawfirm to ensure things are handled properly, now that the site has grown to a significant operation [21:03]
pigeons mommy, why is that eskimo angry? [21:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 952 @ 0.0056 = 5.3312 BTC [+] [21:03]
gesell evoorhees: do you see any other significant business in the market that could provide more s.dice like diversity of investment and activity? [21:04]
evoorhees gesell - hard to match s.dice today, but for sure over the next year there will be some amazing bitcoin companies that emerge [21:05]
evoorhees not sure if they'll list on the asset markets though [21:05]
gigavps EskimoBob_afk, you're funny [21:05]
evoorhees because any company that approaches the earning potential of S.dice might follow the traditional route of getting angel invesetment or VCs [21:05]
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evoorhees s.dice was unique because it started tiny and grew without a requirement of capital [21:06]
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maximian evoorhees: what if the law firm says that you have to collect info on your shareholders? [21:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.0056 = 8.4 BTC [+] [21:07]
maximian would you take that advice seriously, or ignore it? [21:07]
evoorhees not sure [21:07]
truffles wrong answer [21:07]
gigavps EskimoBob_afk, if that was true, why are there so many Gigaminers claiming and getting paid? [21:08]
gesell bleh, the local bot that bitcoin-24 run on their exchange really is getting on my nerves (it ALWAYS up bids above you) [21:08]
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gigavps fyi, over 2000 coins have been paid :P [21:09]
maximian that might be a concern for me, not sure [21:09]
gigavps so maybe you should shut the fuck up when you don't know what you are fucking talking about [21:09]
* gigavps may have been a little too harsh there... [21:09]
truffles a lil [21:09]
jcpham wham [21:09]
jcpham gigadtfu [21:10]
truffles but how else can we learn if we dont ask.. [21:10]
gigavps no need to ask, i do what i say i'm going to do [21:10]
gigavps full stop [21:10]
jurov there so many Gigaminers claiming and getting laid? [21:10]
ThickAsTh shareholder identities for digital goods seems like like an off-the-mark desire [21:10]
* truffles wants to get laid [21:11]
gigavps lol [21:11]
gigavps over 50% of claims are from outside the US [21:11]
gigavps EskimoBob_afk, give it up [21:11]
gigavps you have nothing to troll about [21:11]
jcpham am i missing some class A trolling? [21:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 343 @ 0.00068597 = 0.2353 BTC [-] [21:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1557 @ 0.00068596 = 1.068 BTC [-] [21:12]
gigavps EskimoBob_afk, i hope we meet someday [21:12]
truffles will there be a tape? [21:13]
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gigavps kind of hard to steal coins when you are paying them back [21:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2548 @ 0.0056 = 14.2688 BTC [+] [21:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00069998 = 3.2899 BTC [+] [21:16]
iz DeaDTerra: what if someone else uses your number? [21:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.659958 = 6.5996 BTC [+] [21:16]
truffles gigavps, whyd you steal from investors? [21:17]
truffles this is a lot to know, notary?? [21:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0056 = 28 BTC [+] [21:19]
truffles which [21:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+] [21:20]
truffles bitcointalk.org? [21:20]
truffles talking to people is instant though [21:21]
truffles i like windows [21:23]
truffles "Why are bitcointalk forum members so stupid?" [21:23]
truffles see im in the right place here [21:23]
truffles "Out of all the forums that I have frequented (and I've been on some seriously high volume forums), it is bitcointalk.org that has the dubious distinction of warehousing the largest number of what can only be described as "retards." " [21:24]
gesell has anyone really looked at the satcoin (SAT Solver for mining) writeup? could this actually extend GPU life a little for mining? [21:26]
jurov i skimmed it [21:26]
gigavps gesell, link? [21:26]
gesell http://jheusser.github.com/2013/02/03/satcoin.html [21:27]
jurov i doubt the algo is useful for gpus [21:27]
jurov the SHA1 formula is too big [21:28]
ThickAsTh Just saw Dooglus' report, great day for SDICE [21:30]
gesell jurov: i dont understand. why not? its applied to crypto as an alternative for bruteforce [21:30]
truffles nope threat title and 1st comment [21:31]
ThickAsTh I've seen much worse forums than bitcointalk.org [21:31]
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truffles thread [21:31]
jurov gesell i thought to convert one round of SHA into BNF. got impression that it will be quite big [21:31]
jurov but didn't dug deeper [21:31]
gesell i guess i have reading to do [21:32]
gesell perhaps yu are rightr [21:32]
jurov and gpus need small dataset [21:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.621 = 12.42 BTC [-] [21:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [-] [21:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00069998 = 4.2699 BTC [+] [21:34]
gesell any chance mpex will be funding wallets before the s.dice drop? [21:34]
jurov still 8 hours left, i believe it will [21:34]
Bugpowder I hope not [21:35]
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gesell bleh, waiting for my blockchain to sync. gah [21:35]
Bugpowder Sleep Sleep sweet popescu [21:35]
jurov omg [21:35]
gesell man, DPR should give him a continious supply to keep him awake at all times [21:36]
kakobrekla o some one wanna buy my cxBtc [21:36]
Bugpowder I am selling [21:36]
jurov lol, you're in it too? [21:36]
kakobrekla in what? [21:36]
Bugpowder 2 for 1 [21:36]
jurov selling mpexbtc [21:36]
Bugpowder lol [21:36]
Bugpowder such a panic [21:36]
kakobrekla o this is a real sport now? [21:37]
Bugpowder for a 20% gain [21:37]
Bugpowder let's collude [21:37]
jurov what 20% you pay 1.2BTC for 1MPExBTC? [21:38]
gesell lol, theres no mention of the second s.dice drop on reddit. guess they are all just waiting to post complaints post 10pm [21:40]
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jurov oh no reddit. the atmosphere is tense enough already :D [21:41]
maximian All this attention is ultimately good for s.dice [21:41]
evoorhees I think a lot of people were just caught off guard [21:42]
evoorhees and that is my fault [21:42]
evoorhees I should've announced it ahead of time [21:42]
Bugpowder YES [21:43]
evoorhees I'm talking with one of the most vocal critics now, and I think that would've gone a long way to making him feel fine about it [21:43]
Bugpowder Maybe you should sell 2MM [21:43]
Bugpowder that dude probably has like 5000 shares [21:43]
Bugpowder wanker [21:43]
evoorhees it's fine... he's talking to me now and no worries [21:44]
jurov but maximian has a point. outrageous moves on stock exchange are good for popularity :D [21:44]
gigavps evoorhees, i hope you aren't caught "off guard" when the US decides SDICE is no dice [21:44]
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gesell so then sell them in blocks of 1k with each block N mBTC greater than the last, pump up the price to insanity :P [21:44]
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evoorhees SDICE is not a US company, nor is it hosted in the US, nor does it use US currency [21:45]
jurov no. sell every 1k block at random price [21:45]
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evoorhees though I know the US does wahtever it wants [21:45]
maximian evoorhees, you should move to Europe and change the domain to satoshidice.ie :) [21:45]
gesell if the US had DHS take down the name and you switched to namecoin, it'd be freaking AWESOME! [21:45]
gesell the domain name i mean [21:45]
gigavps evoorhees, exactly [21:45]
evoorhees hehehe [21:46]
gigavps if US residents play your game, you'll probably come under fire at some point [21:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.62 = 11.16 BTC [-] [21:46]
ThickAsTh to me, it's the exchanges that deal in fiat that will get in trouble [21:46]
maximian the problem is, the DOJ destroys businesses first, asks questions later. [21:46]
gesell i wonder how the icelandish protection laws for journalism and data safehavens could be applied for gambling [21:46]
ThickAsTh they are the main point of laundering [21:46]
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assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 91 @ 0.011 = 1.001 BTC [+] [21:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.62 = 13.02 BTC [-] [21:47]
ThickAsTh i'm amazed that converting $ to BTC is going on at all [21:47]
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evoorhees what do you mean thickasth? [21:48]
ThickAsTh well the easiest charge [21:49]
ThickAsTh is laundering [21:49]
gigavps evoorhees, has sdice had any contact for any government regarding the lawfulness of it's operations [21:49]
ThickAsTh and that happens the moment fiat is taken and BTC is given [21:49]
gigavps s/for/from/ [21:49]
evoorhees no [21:49]
mjr__ he is trading fake stuff for other fake stuff in the eyes of anyone [21:49]
mjr__ he never touches fiat [21:49]
ThickAsTh So, places like Dwolla can't last [21:50]
mjr__ i personally don't see how the govt can say "not legal tender" and then at the same time say "you can't trade play money" [21:50]
mjr__ so i think legally speaking he is quite safe [21:50]
ThickAsTh i think SDICE is pretty safe [21:50]
ThickAsTh only vbecause there are bigger, more guilty parties [21:50]
mjr__ also i thought sdice was in ireland...am i way off? [21:50]
ThickAsTh "guilty" [21:50]
evoorhees sdice is in ireland [21:51]
mjr__ i read an article where they explained how govt trying to crack down on bitcoin would make it even more successful [21:51]
evoorhees it is not a company [21:51]
mjr__ streisand effect [21:51]
ThickAsTh Another thing the US could do is regulate where banks can send money [21:51]
evoorhees it does not have bank accounts [21:51]
mjr__ they have and could [21:51]
ThickAsTh and stop banks from ACHing to bitcoin exchanges [21:51]
Lyspooner evoorhees, it seems like you went from bitcoin spokesperson to accidental millionaire. how do you want to be remembered? [21:51]
Bugpowder jurov, the random price idea is actually really good [21:51]
mjr__ i want to buy some bitcoins locally in nyc [21:51]
Bugpowder it will hit the highest ask [21:52]
Bugpowder err bid [21:52]
Bugpowder and people must bid thier preferred price, with no guidance from the offering [21:52]
Bugpowder only from the other bids [21:52]
Bugpowder and their own sense [21:52]
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mjr__ just so you guys know [21:53]
mjr__ have you not seen the startups who have raised seed rounds? [21:53]
mjr__ coinbase being the most public example? [21:53]
mjr__ those are some HUGE names attached to the financing of over a half a million USD [21:53]
iz how much did they raise? [21:53]
mjr__ and i seriously doubt that those VC's and YCombinator would not at least think of legal ramifications [21:54]
mjr__ 600k [21:54]
topace_ !ticker h sdice [21:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.52100000 / 0.62504313 / 0.76500000 (682 shares, 426.27941480 BTC), 7D: 0.52100000 / 0.71781239 / 0.89000000 (2529 shares, 1815.34753929 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.61915127 / 0.89000000 (6188 shares, 3831.30805722 BTC) [21:54]
mjr__ another one raised half a mil [21:54]
mjr__ i think 2 actually raised half a mil each [21:54]
mjr__ so business is starting to notice [21:54]
mjr__ and coinbase's stated goal is to make it as easy as possible to transfer USD for BTC [21:55]
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mjr__ the revolution will not be televised lol [21:55]
evoorhees VC money is absolutely noticing bitcoin now [21:55]
evoorhees I promise [21:55]
mjr__ yes i know [21:56]
mjr__ i am hoping to meet with one later this week [21:56]
mjr__ and have a couple of others who have expressed interest [21:56]
evoorhees nice [21:56]
mjr__ in fact firstmark capital is in my office building [21:56]
mjr__ lol [21:56]
mjr__ hey neighbor, got a cup of sugar? [21:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.0061 = 9.15 BTC [+] [21:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0066 BTC [+] [22:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1499 @ 0.0067 = 10.0433 BTC [+] [22:00]
evoorhees lol [22:00]
SpNg how does coinbase differ from say Mtgox? They are both BTC wallets with the ability to convert from fiat to BTC right? [22:09]
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mjr__ that is my point [22:16]
mjr__ they try to sell ease of use [22:16]
mjr__ better UI [22:16]
mjr__ but they did not actually do anything new [22:17]
mjr__ i think [22:17]
mjr__ but that is my point [22:17]
mjr__ it doesn't have to be crazy and new [22:17]
jurov evoorhees what do you say to these doublespends: http://blockchain.info/double-spends ? [22:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [+] [22:19]
evoorhees jurov - I have a way to see how many doublespends are successful against SD [22:24]
evoorhees the number is small :) [22:24]
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mjr__ question jurov you run coinbr right? [22:26]
jurov ys [22:27]
jurov yes [22:27]
mjr__ i was just curious, if you set a limit order, do you get best price? [22:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00677999 = 1.356 BTC [-] [22:27]
mjr__ ie. let's say i put a limit order at 2... [22:27]
mjr__ i wanna buy at 2 (example purposes) [22:27]
mjr__ someone else posts at 1, do i get one? [22:28]
jurov yes you should. for 0.0055 [22:28]
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mjr__ yay [22:29]
jurov (if we'e speaking about buy orders for sdice) [22:29]
mjr__ ok cool, so if i put it between the bid and ask and evoorhees posts for under my bid i get price improvement... [22:29]
mjr__ that is what i was just checking [22:30]
jurov yes [22:30]
mjr__ awesome, localbitcoins better come through today [22:30]
mjr__ lol [22:30]
Bugpowder no [22:30]
jurov but also someone other can sell to you for that higher price [22:30]
jurov before ipo [22:31]
mjr__ yes they can [22:31]
Bugpowder you should get it at the price you bid [22:31]
mjr__ if they choose to sell at my place [22:31]
mjr__ no... [22:31]
Bugpowder during the IPO as well [22:31]
Bugpowder You have a bid [22:31]
mjr__ limit is "an order to buy a certain amount of shares at a certain price or better" [22:31]
mjr__ yes [22:31]
Bugpowder someone places an ask below yours, regardless of origin, you will get filled at your bid [22:31]
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mjr__ you cannot pay MORE than your bid [22:31]
mjr__ no you won't [22:32]
mjr__ first...that's not the way limit orders work [22:32]
jurov bugpowder, are you saying that evoorhees will send sell order at 0.0055 and ends up paying more cause of mjr__? [22:32]
mjr__ second...jurov who runs the broker said i would get price improvement [22:32]
Bugpowder he will get more [22:32]
Bugpowder evoorhees will get more [22:32]
Bugpowder if the bid is higher than the price he posts [22:32]
jurov uh my head [22:32]
Bugpowder this is how it worked in S.BBET IPO [22:32]
mjr__ no [22:32]
Bugpowder this is how it works in any trading system [22:32]
mjr__ that is a silent auction [22:32]
mjr__ oh my gosh [22:32]
Bugpowder You have a bid up [22:33]
mjr__ http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/limitorder.asp#axzz2K3IEUttG [22:33]
mjr__ read [22:33]
Bugpowder dude [22:33]
mjr__ that is how limit orders work [22:33]
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Bugpowder DUDE [22:33]
mjr__ it's called price improvement [22:33]
mjr__ the only "limit" is how high you are willing to pay, you can think of it as saying "i will pay any price up to this price for this number of shares" [22:34]
Bugpowder mjr__ think about it a little harder [22:34]
mjr__ i want to buy 500 shares at this price or better [22:34]
Bugpowder that only works if you are buying into EXISTING ask orders [22:34]
mjr__ no [22:34]
mjr__ in this situation it would also work [22:34]
mjr__ unless evoorhees chooses to set certain shaers at different prices [22:34]
Bugpowder evoorhees will just be selling a LIMIT order into YOUR existing order [22:34]
mjr__ which he won't [22:34]
Bugpowder the price improvement will work for him, not you [22:34]
mjr__ he will release a block at a certain price [22:35]
Bugpowder Yes [22:35]
Bugpowder he will SELL a block [22:35]
mjr__ yes [22:35]
Bugpowder by placing a limit sell order [22:35]
Bugpowder of shares he controls [22:35]
mjr__ ok [22:35]
mjr__ yes i know [22:35]
Bugpowder all existing bids will be filled at the bid price, highest first, on down to a limit of .0055 [22:35]
Bugpowder watch [22:35]
Bugpowder at 10pm. [22:35]
mjr__ hehehe [22:36]
Bugpowder this is why people currently have bids over .0055 [22:36]
mjr__ wait [22:36]
Bugpowder to ensure they get shares. [22:36]
mjr__ ah ok [22:36]
mjr__ if i was closer to the ask, i would get price improvement [22:36]
Bugpowder no [22:36]
Bugpowder if his ask existed [22:36]
Bugpowder BEFORE you place the order, you will get improvement [22:37]
mjr__ hmnmm [22:37]
mjr__ by the way did he announce the price is going to be .0055 [22:37]
mjr__ ? [22:37]
Bugpowder yes [22:38]
maximian maybe the bids will pile up high enough that 0.0055 isn't reached. [22:39]
Bugpowder its in a thread [22:39]
Bugpowder it is possible [22:39]
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Bugpowder Should be fun! [22:39]
maximian yep [22:39]
Bugpowder S.BBET IPO was fucking insane [22:39]
Bugpowder a new block of 10,000 shares issued 1.03x every 1 second [22:40]
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jurov yes. i'm just looking it up to be certain [22:40]
jurov for exaple before IPO there was buy order "Quantity":"54500", "Price":"55000" [22:41]
jurov and during IPO all the transactions went at price 55000 till the order wasn';t exhausted [22:41]
jurov so it should be clear now [22:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.6499 = 12.998 BTC [-] [22:42]
jurov sry for confusion [22:43]
jurov :D [22:43]
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jurov ;;seen smickles [22:48]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: i think i recall someone keeping a log [22:48]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [+] [22:49]
topace_ mircea_popescu: when will you be around to process deposits? [22:59]
leotreasure how many shares are in the SD 2nd tranche? [23:00]
jurov 1million [23:00]
leotreasure thanks jurov [23:00]
gesell based on first, 1m [23:00]
gesell yeah [23:00]
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gesell im kind of resolving myself to the reality that i might not see any of it. oh well [23:01]
leotreasure i missed the 1st tranche cos i went to see Tim Berners-Lee [23:02]
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gesell well, we all mess up sometimes ;) [23:03]
Ukyo leotreasure: : its gonna getcrazy [23:04]
jurov i hope i won't mess anything... it will be 4am here and i'll be a zombie [23:04]
jurov and i can't go sleep since coinbr users are pounding on the door already [23:05]
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jurov if i credit them late there will be lynchmob or dunno [23:05]
kakobrekla cheap shares yesterday = all is wrong, less cheap shares today = all is swell! [23:05]
evoorhees hehehe [23:05]
jurov " [23:07]
jurov I know it takes 48hrs to post due to manual processing, etc ... but [23:07]
jurov > can you work with MPEX to speed it up? [23:07]
jurov " [23:07]
jurov sigh [23:07]
gesell yeah, let it roll off. who knows, maybe mircea_popescu will save you by just not waking up for the next 8 hours and then it can be all his fault ;) [23:09]
evoorhees by the way - I won't release the tranche until mircea has joined and cleared the funds [23:10]
kakobrekla awwww! [23:11]
evoorhees will people get mad at me for that also? :) [23:11]
maximian there's always something to be mad about :) [23:11]
Bugpowder yes [23:12]
maximian except on dividends day [23:12]
Bugpowder you should do it when you said you wold [23:12]
Bugpowder people should park their coins on mpex [23:12]
Bugpowder so they can be prepared [23:12]
Bugpowder like me [23:12]
kakobrekla ya. [23:13]
evoorhees a fair point [23:13]
kakobrekla prepared bought stuff yesterday. [23:13]
kakobrekla :) [23:13]
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jcpham mircea told me he was taking everyones bittycoins [23:14]
jcpham he wanted me to tell you to have a nice day, though [23:14]
Lyspooner sweet, the best bitcoin asset is a casino [23:14]
Lyspooner great job erik [23:15]
Lyspooner not your fault i guess [23:15]
Lyspooner but sweet [23:15]
Bugpowder prepared was sleeping [23:15]
kakobrekla yes erik not your fault for being successuful, shit just happens. [23:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069769 = 3.0147 BTC [-] [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6756 @ 0.00069744 = 4.7119 BTC [-] [23:16]
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Bugpowder What is the bitcoin to Amazon coin exchange rate? [23:22]
jcpham the thing that just came out today? [23:22]
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jcpham or amazon cash as in gift codes [23:23]
jcpham it's looking like -%10 Amazon for BTC right now otc [23:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.69686969 = 2.7875 BTC [+] [23:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.6969 = 6.969 BTC [+] [23:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 67 @ 0.7 = 46.9 BTC [+] [23:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [+] [23:28]
gesell evoorhees: there's no right way to do anything. bravo for trying but i guess people will get mad at something somewhere [23:29]
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gesell 10000 Amazon Coins are currently worth 1 Bitcoin Gem [23:30]
Namworld there's a new tranche coming up? [23:30]
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gesell Namworld: go away :P [23:34]
Namworld Never! [23:35]
gesell go back to sleep [23:35]
gesell but yes, 1m shares at 10pm EST [23:35]
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Namworld ok, I'll stick around [23:39]
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jurov evoorhees: but it's fact that if you announced yest, you'll get much better price. you see what happens yourself. [23:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00677 = 1.354 BTC [-] [23:43]
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Namworld Well his loss. [23:46]
Namworld The way I see it, it's just 5%. Gets him more BTC/USD aside. If SD keeps going like it is, he still got a large %. If it doesn't, he has money put aside. [23:47]
Namworld Although he said it might not be his shares [23:47]
Namworld Private investors and whatnot. [23:47]
ThickAsTh He'll get much better prices until market falls lower. Once we get to the 5th tranche itll be hard to sell at .0055 [23:48]
ThickAsTh but itll be interesting to see how this all unfolds [23:48]
Namworld I am not sure it will be that hard. Plus next one should be higher still [23:48]
jurov have you seen http://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx ? [23:48]
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Namworld Yes, lots of deposits [23:49]
jurov there's queued money for 2nd tranche already [23:49]
jurov fully [23:49]
ThickAsTh actually i can see why i'm wrong [23:49]
ThickAsTh the dividend promise is still high [23:49]
Ukyo and working on 3rd tranche [23:49]
jurov oh i actually meant "next 3 tranches are filled by these deposits" [23:50]
jurov or 2 at least [23:50]
ThickAsTh wow [23:51]
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mircea_popescu ah hello everyone [23:52]
jurov ^^ imbodied innocence [23:55]
Namworld jurov, most of these funds were already there before the S.DICE planned slices [23:55]
Namworld They might be tied in options and whatnot [23:55]
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jurov Namworld, click on the icon in in Final Balance row, right above "Donation Button" [23:56]
jurov and behold the spike in balance graph [23:56]
Bugpowder 10k [23:57]
Bowjob *yawn [23:57]
Namworld yeah, so? [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2764 @ 0.00069778 = 1.9287 BTC [+] [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7694 @ 0.00069744 = 5.3661 BTC [-] [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00069567 = 2.7479 BTC [-] [23:57]
Ukyo nam [23:58]
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Ukyo since MP did the last deposit processing [23:58]
error4733 hey btcland [23:58]
Ukyo there are now over 7,000 btc [23:58]
Ukyo waiting for deposit [23:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069092 = 6.9092 BTC [-] [23:58]
error4733 ready for tonight ? http://imgur.com/tCp90.gif [23:59]
Bowjob for the shares? [23:59]
Bowjob I felt so bad I so the shares went from 9k to 0 [23:59]
Bowjob lol [23:59]
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