Forum logs for 05 Dec 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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PeterL | Had baby #4 today. | [00:03] |
mod6 | congrats PeterL | [00:07] |
PeterL | thanks | [00:07] |
asciilifeform | thx mod6 ! | [00:19] |
asciilifeform | congrats PeterL | [00:19] |
PeterL | and happy b-day to you. I guess it is a good day for a birthday | [00:19] |
asciilifeform | ty | [00:20] |
asciilifeform | moar lulz: | [00:33] |
asciilifeform | * a level of 0 this will not block and might not return anything | [00:33] |
asciilifeform | * with some entropy drivers, however the rndlinux driver will use | [00:33] |
asciilifeform | * /dev/urandom and return some stuff - Do not read to much as we | [00:33] |
asciilifeform | * want to be friendly to the scare system entropy resource. */ | [00:33] |
PeterL | what's this from? | [00:42] |
asciilifeform | gpg 1.4.10 | [00:42] |
PeterL | what is it going to do with the entropy it creates? | [00:43] |
asciilifeform | key | [00:44] |
asciilifeform | (and a few other things) | [00:44] |
PeterL | does using "to" instead of "too" indicate something about the level of competence going into this? | [00:45] |
asciilifeform | PeterL: iirc current maintainer is a german | [00:45] |
PeterL | aha | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform 1988 | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | but the important point is, "too cowardly to take them". | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | these are the same people who collectively opted not to give gates dailyt whirlies when he started with HIS whiny bullshit (also in the 80s) | [00:58] |
mircea_popescu | these are the same people reacting to some "company" saying something vague AS IF IT MATTERED. | [00:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00048015 = 8.7387 BTC [+] | [01:00] |
BingoBoingo | Happy bday to alf and happy birthing day to peterl | [01:17] |
asciilifeform | ty BingoBoingo. | [01:18] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: aha that part made 0 sense | [01:18] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: and the infamous gates 'letter to hobbyists' was in '76 | [01:19] |
PeterL | ty BingoBoingo | [01:19] |
PeterL | http://trilema.com/2015/the-pgp-w-mode/ << encrypter and decrypter are required to use the same file? how do you know which file to use? | [01:20] |
assbot | The PGP -w mode on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PUEQz6 ) | [01:20] |
mircea_popescu | alright, 76. | [01:21] |
asciilifeform | PeterL: stego is a symmetric thing | [01:21] |
asciilifeform | (afaik publickeyization of stego is an unsolved megapr0bl3m) | [01:22] |
PeterL | so wouldn't the enemy just need to know which file you are using, and then it is worthless? | [01:22] |
asciilifeform | PeterL: stego is not a substitute for crypto, but is 'part of a balanced diet' | [01:23] |
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PeterL | aha | [01:23] |
PeterL | then does it need to be part of pgp? | [01:24] |
asciilifeform | not imho | [01:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35201 @ 0.00049385 = 17.384 BTC [+] {3} | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | PeterL the only way otp works is with prior agreement. as alf says, there's no known alternative ot this. | [01:24] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2015#1336772 >> e.g., http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-09-2015#1257953 | [01:25] |
assbot | Logged on 05-12-2015 03:55:50; mircea_popescu: but the important point is, "too cowardly to take them". | [01:25] |
assbot | Logged on 01-09-2015 02:05:20; asciilifeform: (freedos folks make a show of refusing to look at it) | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | now, you can in practice have "prior agreement after the fact", to use the consecrated legal concept (ie, if someone tells you what to use after you got the file, but you "know" it's right because it decrypts to something meaningful). but this doesn't seem much of a variation. | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | anyway. the hooks to use the tool any way you might want is a part of a well designed tool. this is why a hammer comes with the hook at the other end for pulling out nails, even for hammers you buy to only hurt your fingers with. | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | the spec accounts for this, that there should be a hook there. otherwise i fully expect most people will just use the standard dictionary if they ever use the mode at all. | [01:27] |
asciilifeform | with anything like genuine otp, the 'prior after the fact' is really 'after the fact' plain and simple, | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform yeah. | [01:27] |
asciilifeform | given as the choice of pad can give you any plaintext you want. | [01:27] |
asciilifeform | aha | [01:27] |
asciilifeform | (up to length of ciphertext) | [01:27] |
* | BingoBoingo awaits magic future/past where electronics contact cleaner can be used on energized devices. | [01:27] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: clean with 'fluorinert' | [01:27] |
asciilifeform | then light up a benjie cigar. | [01:27] |
asciilifeform | full of human caviar. | [01:28] |
BingoBoingo | Some day | [01:28] |
* | BingoBoingo just sprayed a bunch of isohexane at car radio | [01:28] |
BingoBoingo | about to go outside again for round 2 | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | what are you trying to accomplish ? | [01:31] |
* | asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo removing entrails of dead weasel from cassette slot | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | alternatively, http://49.media.tumblr.com/8a02ea6d3e092c54ef106bfe3009a270/tumblr_n4idjpufOZ1smnwtfo1_400.gif | [01:35] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2015#1336798 << in the olden days, prior to mechanical cryptoanalysis, thinking folk got pretty far with 'book cipher' | [01:35] |
assbot | Logged on 05-12-2015 04:25:09; mircea_popescu: the spec accounts for this, that there should be a hook there. otherwise i fully expect most people will just use the standard dictionary if they ever use the mode at all. | [01:35] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1N2e7gj ) | [01:35] |
asciilifeform | james randi almost got nailed for $1M by using this in modern times | [01:35] |
asciilifeform | ( see http://www.crypto.com/blog/psychic_cryptanalysis ) | [01:36] |
assbot | Matt Blaze: James Randi owes me a million dollars ... ( http://bit.ly/1N2e8AW ) | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | i dun recall that one ? | [01:36] |
asciilifeform | ^ linked | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | After staring at this commitment string for a little while, we suspected (or, if you prefer, we had a divine inspiration) that the first 10 digits might represent the ISBN number of a published book. | [01:37] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha ouch | [01:37] |
asciilifeform | see also the infamous 'ceiiinosssttuv' incident. | [01:38] |
asciilifeform | (re: pre-mechanical crypto) | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | i can';t fucking believe randi actually went with homebrew crypto | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | jesus christ how fucking unskeptical, anti-scientific must one be. | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | see alfie, there is no hope for mankind. | [01:39] |
asciilifeform | mebbe he's a runaway | [01:40] |
asciilifeform | from 1790 | [01:40] |
asciilifeform | or such. | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | "nobody could have foreseen anyone else on the whole fucking planet having heard of isbn. it's just an industrial process after all!" | [01:41] |
mircea_popescu | then we derride youths that go around in chinese made tshirts saying they're unique. but the difference would be... | [01:41] |
mircea_popescu | wholly in favour of the youths. youth excuses a lot. | [01:42] |
BingoBoingo | [01:44] | |
BingoBoingo | * asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo removing entrails of dead weasel from cassette slot << Ghosts of cigarettes past | [01:44] |
PeterL | maybe try acetone? | [01:44] |
BingoBoingo | how long will it take for acetone to dry at 29F | [01:45] |
PeterL | a couple minutes? | [01:45] |
BingoBoingo | Ah | [01:45] |
PeterL | or turn the car on and run the heater a bit? | [01:45] |
* | BingoBoingo not taking radio apart, just spraying and waiting | [01:45] |
BingoBoingo | disconnected battery to keep radio/clock from energizing | [01:46] |
* | asciilifeform still has a circa-'80s 'tape drive cleaning' kit containing, among other items... a bottle of old-fashioned 'freon'. | [01:46] |
BingoBoingo | ah | [01:47] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: to be fair, he wasn't trying to encrypt, as such, but to ceiiinosssttuv. | [01:48] |
asciilifeform | (and, apparently, had never heard of, e.g., hash algo) | [01:48] |
PeterL | ;;isup mpex.co | [01:50] |
gribble | mpex.co is down | [01:50] |
BingoBoingo | ;;isup mpex.re | [01:50] |
gribble | mpex.re is down | [01:51] |
PeterL | ;;isup mpex.biz | [01:51] |
gribble | mpex.biz is down | [01:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14458 @ 0.00049257 = 7.1216 BTC [-] | [01:53] |
punkman | https://archive.is/obkJA | [02:11] |
assbot | Prime Minister's Media Office: The Iraqi government calls on Turkey to respect good neighbourly relations and to withdraw immediately from the Iraqi territory ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q6mYl4 ) | [02:11] |
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BingoBoingo | Car radio progress report: buttons are getting more responsive. Will likely finish the can on the radio some warmer night next week. | [04:17] |
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deedbot- | [Qntra] United States Revives Export-Import Bank - http://qntra.net/2015/12/united-states-revives-export-import-bank/ | [04:35] |
BingoBoingo | ;;bc,stats | [04:36] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 386791 | Current Difficulty: 7.272278064254718E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 387071 | Next Difficulty In: 280 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [04:36] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ticker --market all | [04:37] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 371.78, vol: 10797.14834601 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 367.114, vol: 10133.70449 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 372.11, vol: 21207.30570728 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 375.0, vol: 4.91 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 380.414166, vol: 94465.59940000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 372.0, vol: 78.95869822 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 375.498, vol: 37.81766707 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) | [04:37] |
BingoBoingo | ;;more | [04:40] |
gribble | 377.452097124 | [04:40] |
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adlai | !t m s.mpoe | [04:46] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00047982 / 0.00049753 / 0.00051167 (5809483 shares, 2,890.43 BTC), 7D: 0.00047982 / 0.00050242 / 0.00052434 (12541485 shares, 6,301.14 BTC), 30D: 0.00047982 / 0.0005178 / 0.00057294 (57301369 shares, 29,670.98 BTC) | [04:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6342 @ 0.00049257 = 3.1239 BTC [-] | [05:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00049264 = 15.3704 BTC [+] {4} | [06:36] |
deedbot- | [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.16358915 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b74 | [06:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00049445 = 9.3451 BTC [+] {4} | [07:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00049361 = 13.673 BTC [-] {2} | [07:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44788 @ 0.00049469 = 22.1562 BTC [+] {3} | [08:12] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24197 @ 0.00049502 = 11.978 BTC [+] {3} | [08:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62753 @ 0.00048902 = 30.6875 BTC [-] {5} | [08:25] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00049636 = 13.774 BTC [+] | [08:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3971 @ 0.00048667 = 1.9326 BTC [-] | [08:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18912 @ 0.00048802 = 9.2294 BTC [+] {2} | [09:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48500 @ 0.00049534 = 24.024 BTC [+] | [10:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10769 @ 0.00049635 = 5.3452 BTC [+] {4} | [11:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11899 @ 0.00049269 = 5.8625 BTC [-] {2} | [11:30] |
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asciilifeform | ;;seen nubbins` | [11:35] |
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asciilifeform | ;;seen artifexd | [11:36] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45925 @ 0.00048853 = 22.4357 BTC [-] {5} | [11:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00048483 = 9.0178 BTC [-] | [11:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79500 @ 0.00049677 = 39.4932 BTC [+] {2} | [11:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00048344 = 11.941 BTC [-] | [12:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6044 @ 0.00048597 = 2.9372 BTC [+] {3} | [12:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19118 @ 0.00048131 = 9.2017 BTC [-] | [12:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9568 @ 0.00048131 = 4.6052 BTC [-] {2} | [13:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.0004968 = 11.029 BTC [+] {4} | [13:07] |
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nubbins` | never you mind about when i've been seen | [13:48] |
asciilifeform | l0l | [13:48] |
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nubbins` | busy times at chez pink 8) | [13:49] |
nubbins` | shared w/ the heels: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1276940.0 | [13:49] |
assbot | Limited edition art books ... ( http://bit.ly/1XJtkew ) | [13:49] |
adlai | we need you, who else will print the printable product? | [13:49] |
* | adlai hazards a guess that most anything c++ doesn't pass the "worth killing trees to print" test | [13:50] |
nubbins` | i don't think cotton dies when you pick it, and cotton paper is nicer | [13:51] |
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nubbins` | anyway, to bind a 300-page book via this method would produce a wonderful lay-flat tome, and only take smth like 13 hours | [13:53] |
adlai | please refrain from moving goalposts in the direction of tolerating a shittierd turdatron :) | [13:55] |
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asciilifeform | adlai: since i'm not certain whether i ever explained it, there were two particular reasons i wanted it printed: | [13:59] |
asciilifeform | 1) because i don't especially like reading off a screen | [13:59] |
asciilifeform | 2) to form a permanent, distributed, and unredactable record of classical bitcoinatron. | [13:59] |
adlai | would have more historic value to use THE classic bitcoinatron, with the benefit that this is something we can print today | [14:00] |
asciilifeform | incidentally, (1) only makes sense if not only the code is printed but with first-class concordance (EVERY token on EVERY page is margin-noted and said notes point to index of ALL occurrences) | [14:00] |
asciilifeform | adlai: nope | [14:01] |
asciilifeform | adlai: because it does not function on the network existing today. | [14:01] |
asciilifeform | and hence does not actually describe bitcoin. | [14:01] |
asciilifeform | adlai: 0.5.3 was chosen as starting point on account of being the oldest still-functioning artifact having no obvious catastrophic (exploitable) bugs. | [14:01] |
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adlai | still, my wonder stands... you can build altturds, that will function on the network as deterministically as powerturd or phoundatiurd | [14:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.00049111 = 10.1905 BTC [-] {3} | [14:03] |
asciilifeform | if it doesn't agree with the established blockchain to the last bit, it isn't bitcoin. | [14:03] |
asciilifeform | if it admits tx that 0.5.3 will not admit, it isn't bitcoin. | [14:04] |
asciilifeform | etc. | [14:04] |
asciilifeform | anybody trying to convince you of the opposite is after yer money. | [14:05] |
* | asciilifeform bbl. | [14:05] |
adlai | sure, but pre0.8 could disagree with itself nondeterministically... in this sense bitcoin didn't even exist | [14:05] |
nubbins` | i, also, am after yr money | [14:05] |
adlai | and may not exist today, with any client, either | [14:05] |
nubbins` | adlai it's totally possible that it may not be possible to build a working client w/o hardcoded exceptions to shit that nobody realizes is broken yet | [14:06] |
nubbins` | totally possible that it may not be possible wtf | [14:06] |
* | nubbins` kills self, rues not reading enough | [14:07] |
adlai | eh wot? | [14:07] |
adlai | you code by what you know today, and flail about trying to quantify unknown unknowns for risk hedging | [14:07] |
adlai | anything else is self-delusion | [14:08] |
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nubbins` | !t m s.mg | [14:08] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00011 / 0.00011016 / 0.000115 (59700 shares, 6.58 BTC) | [14:08] |
nubbins` | slim | [14:08] |
* | adlai wonders when tide rising out from s.mpoe will overflow elsewhere... could be a nice change! | [14:10] |
nubbins` | [13:13:30] -SaslServ- 3 failed logins since last login. | [14:15] |
nubbins` | [13:13:30] -SaslServ- Last failed attempt from: Nubbins!62717b9f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.98.113.123.159 on Nov 16 02:17:30 2015. | [14:15] |
nubbins` | lule | [14:15] |
* | nubbins` is popular | [14:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34442 @ 0.00049495 = 17.0471 BTC [+] {2} | [14:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17681 @ 0.00048412 = 8.5597 BTC [-] | [14:56] |
adlai | ;;later tell mike_c still waiting for OP to deliver... http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-10-2015#1311985 | [15:00] |
assbot | Logged on 30-10-2015 15:57:35; mike_c: ;;later tell adlai yeah, I don't see why not. I'll take a look at posting it somewhere. | [15:00] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [15:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00049095 = 15.514 BTC [+] | [15:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00048295 = 8.9346 BTC [-] {4} | [16:01] |
thestringpuller | ;;seen mike_c | [16:09] |
gribble | mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 55 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: |
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thestringpuller | oh hey nubbins` how was your summer | [16:10] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27550 @ 0.00048131 = 13.2601 BTC [-] {2} | [16:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00048131 = 14.68 BTC [-] | [16:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00048869 = 3.3475 BTC [+] | [17:09] |
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deedbot- | [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Selections from The American Review of Reviews, Edited by Albert Shaw, December 1924 - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/05/selections-from-the-american-review-of-reviews-edited-by-albert-shaw-december-1924/ | [17:44] |
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BingoBoingo | 2011 bitcoin problems | [19:00] |
BingoBoingo | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=19207.msg243604#msg243604 | [19:00] |
assbot | How to delete a single transaction from wallet.dat? ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3Foiv ) | [19:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14696 @ 0.00048494 = 7.1267 BTC [-] | [19:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00048119 = 11.6929 BTC [-] {2} | [19:43] |
mircea_popescu | hhhola! | [19:46] |
BingoBoingo | morning | [19:51] |
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mircea_popescu | how goes ? | [20:08] |
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shinohai | muy mal | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | how come ? | [20:13] |
shinohai | I'm sober tonight. Too lazy to go get booze. | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | heh | [20:15] |
adlai | trading: driving + paid by the kilo for running over pedestrians | [20:19] |
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kakobrekla | phf logs fixed re tabs and newlines | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform so if we don't plan to use it then it's not really much priority. | [20:22] |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2015#1336841 << not the brightest idea with a cloud of acetone in a closed space. | [20:25] |
assbot | Logged on 05-12-2015 04:43:56; PeterL: or turn the car on and run the heater a bit? | [20:25] |
mircea_popescu | ;;isup mpex.re | [20:25] |
gribble | mpex.re is up | [20:25] |
mircea_popescu | weird. | [20:25] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2015#1336897 << lol lurker 1st prize. how goes nubsy | [20:27] |
assbot | Logged on 05-12-2015 16:46:32; nubbins`: never you mind about when i've been seen | [20:27] |
mircea_popescu | hm was that book handmade by laser ? | [20:28] |
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mircea_popescu | nubbins` for the record, there's no further work needed to run eulora on osx, phf got it going. | [20:34] |
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pete_dushenski | !up ascii_field | [20:37] |
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ascii_field | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2015#1336969 << i dun like what i found ... at all | [20:38] |
assbot | Logged on 05-12-2015 23:20:54; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if we don't plan to use it then it's not really much priority. | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. | [20:39] |
ascii_field | rng is quite rotten | [20:39] |
ascii_field | primegen too | [20:39] |
ascii_field | no pollardrho trap | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | how about FIRST WE HAVE A PRODUCT | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | then we do open ended marketing | [20:40] |
ascii_field | aha ok | [20:40] |
pete_dushenski | "There is a signicant gender earnings gap in Denmark which persists when comparing men and women in the same occupation at the same firm. Many economists have run regressions to decompose the wage gap into whatever can be explained by observable differences between men | [20:40] |
pete_dushenski | and women and a residual. The residual is often attributed to discrimination [Altonji and Blank, 1999]. A less explored possibility is that women are being paid less than men because they are less productive for unobservable reasons. In this paper, I will describe how much (or little) of the difference in earnings for men and women can be explained by differences in their productivity. Studying private-sector | [20:40] |
pete_dushenski | workers in Denmark, I nd that about 12 percentage points of the 16 percent pay gap can be explained by productivity differences between men and women." << http://sites.northwestern.edu/ype202/files/2015/09/Download-Job-Market-Paper-PDF-2741r0z.pdf | [20:40] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3OSu9 ) | [20:40] |
ascii_field | pete_dushenski: hatefactz | [20:41] |
pete_dushenski | by woman ! | [20:42] |
pete_dushenski | crabs in teh bucket | [20:42] |
ascii_field | they'll revoke her womanity | [20:43] |
ascii_field | she'll have to invert, disgorge a cock | [20:44] |
ascii_field | work a bloke's job | [20:44] |
pete_dushenski | http://sites.northwestern.edu/ype202/files/2015/09/DSC_0182-11fmlhv-e1443556919562.jpg << she doesn't have ~so~ much womanity to lose | [20:44] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7zaSz ) | [20:44] |
pete_dushenski | already phd econ ~candidate~ | [20:45] |
ascii_field | perfectly honest dishonest wurk whatsyerprblem | [20:45] |
pete_dushenski | lol not my prob if she's hungry old maid | [20:46] |
ascii_field | imho thats a hot chik | [20:47] |
ascii_field | not bovine, for instance | [20:47] |
pete_dushenski | you and your american standards :P | [20:48] |
ascii_field | ftr we have pestilential bovinity here | [20:49] |
pete_dushenski | "this soup is fab! no flies!" | [20:49] |
ascii_field | aha! | [20:49] |
ascii_field | mega-delicacy | [20:50] |
pete_dushenski | i can see it | [20:50] |
* | pete_dushenski must be more spoiled than he knew | [20:50] |
adlai | damn hyperspec doesn't specify (butlast l 0) | [20:51] |
ascii_field | adlai: what do you need | [20:52] |
* | adlai must be spoiled as well, in his expectations of specification | [20:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00048092 = 11.7825 BTC [-] | [21:04] |
pete_dushenski | ascii_field: btw happy belated ! | [21:04] |
pete_dushenski | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqxNbGvNamY << /me strongly suspects naomi brockwell would take 0.1 btc for a tit pic | [21:05] |
assbot | Lovesong for Satoshi Nakamoto Whitepaper (Taylor Swift: Everything Has Changed Parody) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3QUdU ) | [21:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00048048 = 5.2132 BTC [-] {2} | [21:07] |
adlai | http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-november-2015-statement/#selection-495.0-495.55 < phf's work or do we already have parallel efforts underway? | [21:09] |
assbot | No Such lAbs (S.NSA), November 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3RgRw ) | [21:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32116 @ 0.00048015 = 15.4205 BTC [-] {3} | [21:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.0004828 = 17.8636 BTC [+] {2} | [21:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.00048238 = 14.7608 BTC [-] {3} | [21:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.00048238 = 16.5456 BTC [-] | [21:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5183 @ 0.00048238 = 2.5002 BTC [-] | [21:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.00048018 = 9.9637 BTC [-] {3} | [22:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32789 @ 0.00048603 = 15.9364 BTC [+] {4} | [22:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52050 @ 0.00047991 = 24.9793 BTC [-] {3} | [22:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00047982 = 11.0599 BTC [-] | [22:40] |
pete_dushenski | ;;ticker | [22:45] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 398.42, Best ask: 398.47, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 398.48, 24 hour volume: 55535.66938988, 24 hour low: 365.33, 24 hour high: 400.0, 24 hour vwap: None | [22:45] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23616 @ 0.00048612 = 11.4802 BTC [+] | [23:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35818 @ 0.00048038 = 17.2063 BTC [-] {4} | [23:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00048497 = 8.2445 BTC [+] {2} | [23:34] |
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BingoBoingo | ;;ticker --market all | [23:38] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 390.28, vol: 18842.91189022 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 386.703, vol: 14863.35568 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 394.15, vol: 55391.19857917 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 388.0, vol: 5.94984421 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 406.86195, vol: 152053.09470000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 395.88, vol: 185.20019757 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 388.5588, vol: 53.38271545 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) | [23:39] |
BingoBoingo | ;;more | [23:39] |
gribble | 401.39649024 | [23:39] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp | [23:39] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 258.248276, vol: 18842.56749022 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 255.9085048, vol: 14860.7519 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 256.7396, vol: 5.94984421 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 269.45523, vol: 152072.89320000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 237.688, vol: 90.6121527 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 257.1114, vol: 53.38271545 | Volume-weighted last average: 267.217269426 | [23:39] |
* | BingoBoingo tired of seeing duplicate malleated txen in wallet, rebuilding his play btc client to address | [23:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00048156 = 13.5318 BTC [-] {2} | [23:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40612 @ 0.00048527 = 19.7078 BTC [+] {4} | [23:55] |
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