Forum logs for 05 Aug 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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ben_vulpes | "Gen X talked a lot about the revolution, and then went and got themselves some venture capital and started laying into place the oversaturated, paranoid world we live in now. A lot of them tried to tell themselves they were still punk as fuck, but it’s hard to morally reconcile the thing where you listen to Fugazi on the way to your job where you help find new ways to trick people into giving up their data to advertisers. Most people | [00:02] |
ben_vulpes | don’t even bother. They just compartmentalize." | [00:02] |
ben_vulpes | "But the world changed again. And kept changing. So now you’ve got this degree that’s worth fuck-all, a house that’s worth more as scrap lumber than as a substantial investment, and you’re either going to lose your job or have to do the work of two people, because there’s a recession on. Except they keep saying the recession ended, so why are you still working twice as hard for the same amount of money?" | [00:03] |
thestringpuller | ;;google cartman buys amusement park | [00:05] |
gribble | Cartmanland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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thestringpuller | ben_vulpes: ^^^ | [00:06] |
ben_vulpes | "In an ideal world, Kim Kardashian would have spent her life getting sport-fucked anonymously by hip-hop stars in some Bel Air mansion, ran a salon, and either died of a coke overdose or Botox poisoning." | [00:07] |
Duffer1 | ouch | [00:07] |
asciilifeform | 'You actually know who Kim Kardashian is.' | [00:08] |
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asciilifeform | (presumably pr0n star) | [00:09] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ud waterhead | [00:09] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=waterhead | The waterhead usually thinks he is the best worker and that he has a really nice smile. He drools a lot. He will try to get his nonretarded coworkers fired. | [00:09] |
ben_vulpes | close. whore for the great satan at the v. least. | [00:09] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3029 @ 0.00185999 = 5.6339 BTC [+] | [00:10] |
thestringpuller | ;;ud chickenhead | [00:12] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chickenhead | chicken head. Background: used primarly in male circles, with strong ties to hip- hop culture. often used in rap music to describe groupies. Definition: NOUN | [00:12] |
thestringpuller | For some reason I think those two slang terms are related on some level. | [00:13] |
ben_vulpes | kinda proximate | [00:13] |
ben_vulpes | how've you been, thestringpuller ? | [00:13] |
ben_vulpes | and srs - why the move? | [00:13] |
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thestringpuller | oh it won't be utnil next year | [00:18] |
thestringpuller | because the killing has won me over | [00:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.27780281 = 0.8334 BTC [+] | [00:18] |
thestringpuller | seattle is dope man. I love climates that are rainy all the fucking time | [00:19] |
thestringpuller | that shit is fucking dope to me. i just love the rain man, i dunno | [00:19] |
thestringpuller | and also I am an asthmatic with bad allergies. i have a feeling when I step off the plane I'll breathe like I've never breathed before! | [00:19] |
thestringpuller | XD | [00:20] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: re: 'broken hearted' article: what a psychiatric marvel. note where he bashes his gov. for not confiscating privately owned small arms quickly enough for his liking - and then goes on with some crap about 'rage is necessary component... stop being well-behaved' | [00:20] |
ben_vulpes | much self-contradiction. it's the lot of the nearly-enlightened under the USG. | [00:22] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 407 @ 0.00198414 = 0.8075 BTC [+] {4} | [00:23] |
asciilifeform | 'William Gibson future where you can live like a stainless steel rat...' << this fellow ever read books ? | [00:23] |
asciilifeform | ;;google the stainless steel rat | [00:23] |
gribble | The Stainless Steel Rat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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ben_vulpes | probably not as many as you | [00:23] |
asciilifeform | but that was thrown in there for the same reason as kardashian. almost like he's got a checklist of traditional american cultural markers. | [00:24] |
ben_vulpes | he's an american - what do you want? | [00:26] |
asciilifeform | recall how mircea_popescu once posted some examples of spam where the spam-meister forgot to actually fill in the spam-generator 'mad libs' and posted raw form ? | [00:26] |
asciilifeform | {this|or|that} syntax | [00:26] |
ben_vulpes | yes... | [00:26] |
asciilifeform | the 'broken heart' thing reads quite like that. | [00:26] |
ben_vulpes | smorgasbord of cultural touchpoints is the best some people can do! | [00:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00083976 = 19.6084 BTC [+] | [00:28] |
thestringpuller | ;;define | [00:28] |
gribble | Error: "define" is not a valid command. | [00:28] |
thestringpuller | ;;google smorgasbord | [00:28] |
gribble | Smörgåsbord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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thestringpuller | damn I wish we had ;;define | [00:28] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ud smorgasbord | [00:28] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smorgasbord | A smorgasbord is typically a lunch buffet-style meal containing hors d'oeuvrs, hot and cold meats, smoked and pickled fish, cheese, salads, and relishes. | [00:28] |
thestringpuller | LOLOLOL | [00:29] |
thestringpuller | niggas... | [00:29] |
ben_vulpes | s/p down 3% over the month, MPOE flat. | [00:31] |
mod6 | And the music sucks. Dear God, the music sucks. << lol, this | [00:31] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1001 @ 0.00242338 = 2.4258 BTC [+] {3} | [00:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10777 @ 0.00083625 = 9.0123 BTC [-] | [00:39] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla> got any atm usage stats << that joesmoe | [00:42] |
thestringpuller | mod6 %6 | [00:43] |
thestringpuller | mod6 = %6 | [00:44] |
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assbot | Track Record | Muddy Waters Research | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | after all, the sec does fiat. | [00:44] |
dignork | people still amaze me: SAML integration, guy sends me his-certicicate.pem #facedeskpalm | [00:44] |
thestringpuller | HAHAHA | [00:44] |
thestringpuller | dignork: the firm I work for is doing SAML integration too | [00:44] |
thestringpuller | Similar stories. Glad it's not an isolated thing XD | [00:45] |
dignork | thestringpuller: how many pems did ya got? :) | [00:45] |
thestringpuller | about 3-4 | [00:45] |
thestringpuller | I'm not on that project tho | [00:45] |
thestringpuller | but we hear about it a lot during the status updates | [00:45] |
ben_vulpes | ;;isitdown blockchain.info | [00:46] |
gribble | blockchain.info is up | [00:46] |
thestringpuller | i don't think anything is in production yet though | [00:46] |
dignork | i'm doing it for a friend, but all this spec looks overcomplicated as shit, and thus probably buggy exploitable | [00:47] |
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mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes> "Where in the world (outside of Taliban-controlled parts of Afghanistan) do fifty-year old men routinely get to mate with twenty-year-old women? " oh gosh <<< everywhere ? | [00:50] |
mircea_popescu | wtf is wrong with this nutso reddit ageism thing ? | [00:50] |
mircea_popescu | where the fuck do twentysomething males get to mate with twentysomething females is more the question, outside of like... us collegiate lalaland. | [00:51] |
ben_vulpes | but that's what the world is supposed to look like. as in middle school, so in high school, college and so on and so forth. | [00:52] |
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mircea_popescu | and she dun hate the game, she hate da playa! | [00:53] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves> my name in Dota 2 is Bitcoin-Assets and I killed an opponent named Doge << lol let the permanent record reflect this. in duplicate. | [00:53] |
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ben_vulpes | HAW | [00:54] |
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Vexual | Asicminer co. sales dept turned attempted equipment assembler, Rcokminer, dumps stock ahead of of new block eruptor somsumer model. | [00:57] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.vox.com/2014/8/4/5967205/an-israeli-web-poll-asks-what-obama-should-get-for-his-birthday-48 | [01:02] |
assbot | An Israeli web poll asks what Obama should get for his birthday. 48 percent say "ebola." - Vox | [01:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3300 @ 0.00207183 = 6.837 BTC [-] {3} | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | i'd rather he survives into an old old age so we can showtrial him and send him to prison pinochet style. | [01:02] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Well, with this latest outbreak roughly half are surviving. Ebola is no longer incompatible with a long life. | [01:03] |
mircea_popescu | there's something right about making very old representatives of failure cry on camera. | [01:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1673 @ 0.00083976 = 1.4049 BTC [+] | [01:08] |
mircea_popescu | In the year 2054, the entire defense budget will purchase just one tactical aircraft. This aircraft will have to be shared by the Air Force and Navy 3½ days each per week except for leap year, when it will be made available to the Marines for the extra day." | [01:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00083987 = 5.2912 BTC [+] {2} | [01:13] |
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chetty | http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/ | [01:22] |
assbot | Is thinking now obsolete? | [01:22] |
ben_vulpes | http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/google-reveals-child-porn-user/?cat_orig=us | [01:25] |
assbot | Google reveals ‘child-porn user’ | [01:25] |
ben_vulpes | "Police say Google detected explicit images of a young girl in an email that John Henry Skillern was sending to a friend, the company then alerted authorities." | [01:26] |
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mircea_popescu | o hey. | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | parallel construction | [01:32] |
ben_vulpes | should probably start spamming every public person's gmail with images off the cp list. | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | s getting more and more parallel by now huih | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | either that or stop believing what liars say. | [01:32] |
ben_vulpes | and why stop there for that matter? do it to everyone, and blow the whole system apart. similar to the autogriefing of twitter and facebook. | [01:33] |
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asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: do it to everyone, and blow the whole system << thousand prisoners, one machine-gunner. who wants to go first. | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | i dont get that. | [01:35] |
mircea_popescu | he didn't mean for him to do it himself, he meant for me to do it. da fuck are they going to do, be very butthurt ? | [01:35] |
mircea_popescu | never let business insider publish an article extolling mpex ever again ? | [01:35] |
asciilifeform | if answer is 'we'll all go first', we have a winner. e.g., treblinka uprising. | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | how about the way this historically worked ? | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | ie, one day teh nazis just scurry like rats, by noon stukas all over the sky ? | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | no wait stuka's the wrong one | [01:37] |
asciilifeform | lol | [01:37] |
mircea_popescu | what did the russians fly, Amplified Bathtub - 1 ? | [01:37] |
mircea_popescu | no that was the tank. hm. | [01:37] |
mircea_popescu | petliakov ? | [01:38] |
asciilifeform | aye | [01:41] |
asciilifeform | 'flying tank' | [01:41] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-july-2014-statement/ | [01:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46716 @ 0.00083426 = 38.9733 BTC [-] {4} | [02:08] |
BingoBoingo | IRS Speak >> "…public works must serve a community. Open source licensing ensures the Tools are accessible to the world. We have not found any authority for the proposition that the world is a community within the meaning of § 501(c)(3)." | [02:10] |
BingoBoingo | …public works must serve a community. Open source licensing ensures the Tools are accessible to the world. We have not found any authority for the proposition that the world is a community within the meaning of § 501(c)(3). | [02:10] |
BingoBoingo | http://blogs.gnome.org/jnelson/2014/06/30/the-new-501c3-and-the-future-of-free-software-in-the-united-states/ | [02:11] |
assbot | Page not found | Jim Nelson / Yorba blog archives | [02:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18534 @ 0.00083329 = 15.4442 BTC [-] {2} | [02:11] |
mircea_popescu | lmaol | [02:12] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-july-2014-statement/ | [02:14] |
assbot | WarOfLife (S.WOL), July 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [02:15] |
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mircea_popescu | s.wol is carrying a lot of capital, but i think rather than pay dividends it's probably wider to just hold on to it for a little. | [02:15] |
mircea_popescu | f.mpif if making very little on its outlay, but i think it'll stick supporting wol for a while longer. | [02:16] |
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thestringpuller | cartoon makers are geniuses | [02:17] |
thestringpuller | ;;google el gringo pussy gato | [02:19] |
gribble | West of the Pesos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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mike_c | well, i guess making dust for mpif was better than losing dust for mpif. | [02:23] |
mod6 | thestringpuller: what up | [02:24] |
ben_vulpes | so return on capital is like zero in btc? | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c word. | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes like .1% a month. | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 1.0001 ^ 12 | [02:26] |
gribble | Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 1.0001 ** 12 | [02:26] |
gribble | 1.00120066022 | [02:26] |
kakobrekla | so little, even compounding fails. | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | word. | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | first month tho, how many businesses show a clear hundred in their first month. | [02:29] |
ben_vulpes | this leads to an interesting problem for the btc-denominated tech company manager: how do i spend as little as possible on ongoing development while still keeping things up and moving forwards? | [02:29] |
kakobrekla | ah, i was thinking whole mpif including my small part. | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | and for the conlang experts : wtf's this say ? http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02mbnkHcY1r9mubdo1_500.jpg | [02:30] |
kakobrekla | ben_vulpes bread and water. | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla nah that's coming in a few. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes yes. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | the future is once again to the frugal. | [02:31] |
mike_c | ben_vulpes: the tech company manager writes more code themself. | [02:32] |
kakobrekla | and everything takes what it takes ^4 | [02:32] |
kakobrekla | timewise. | [02:33] |
ben_vulpes | okay so i guess move to somalia then | [02:33] |
mike_c | hm, it takes longer, but not that much longer. because you are faster than whoever you'd hire to do it. | [02:33] |
kakobrekla | shutup. | [02:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 199 @ 0.00309995 = 0.6169 BTC [+] | [02:35] |
kakobrekla | erm.... i wasnt literal. | [02:35] |
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ben_vulpes | trollface.png | [02:35] |
BingoBoingo | !s Idiocracy | [02:37] |
assbot | 23 results for 'Idiocracy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Idiocracy | [02:37] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-july-2014-statement/ | [02:37] |
mike_c | you can't tell me to shaddup. i do what i want! | [02:37] |
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dignork | mircea_popescu: as an expert in nothing, the writing is "only xyz's cock" , xyz is probably a happy owner | [02:46] |
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mircea_popescu | dignork wait wut ? | [02:49] |
dignork | http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02mbnkHcY1r9mubdo1_500.jpg | [02:49] |
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dignork | +mircea_popescu | and for the conlang experts : wtf's this say ? // only daddy's cock | [02:51] |
mircea_popescu | oh oh ty. | [02:51] |
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BingoBoingo | dignork> http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02mbnkHcY1r9mubdo1_500.jpg << She prolly ought to see a doctor about that cyst in her natal cleft | [02:52] |
mircea_popescu | til BingoBoingo hates clits. | [02:52] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: No, I'm takling the inflamed swollen red thing above the second D in Daddy. | [02:53] |
dignork | BingoBoingo: destroyer of magic/killer of ponies | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | that's not a cyst, that's normal. | [02:53] |
thestringpuller | LOL | [02:54] |
thestringpuller | only if I wasn't in a bar | [02:54] |
thestringpuller | i could open that link | [02:54] |
mircea_popescu | you can open it in a bar too | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | make sure coupla sluts can see it | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | it's called proof of slut. | [02:56] |
mircea_popescu | no wait. of stroke. | [02:56] |
mircea_popescu | no no, SOCIAL proof. | [02:56] |
thestringpuller | I'm no pick up artist | [02:56] |
thestringpuller | I'm just trynna get work done man. | [02:56] |
thestringpuller | IRC help the brain juices move more quickly. | [02:56] |
thestringpuller | and this is a bar of middle aged people | [02:57] |
thestringpuller | middle aged sluts scare me | [02:57] |
thestringpuller | not ageist or anything, just seems to be the general pattern | [02:57] |
mircea_popescu | middle aged sluts are teh best sluts what. | [02:58] |
thestringpuller | yes as they tell you about how they have to pick up their kids from school soon as you fuck them during guiding light | [02:58] |
thestringpuller | i don't think that kind of slut will ever appeal to me | [02:59] |
dignork | thestringpuller: acquired taste i suppose | [02:59] |
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mircea_popescu | "how you doing ? " "busy" "so come over" "oh baby i can't, gotta drop off the kid to ballet class" "so drop her off to her ballet class and come over for a ballet class of your own" "mmmmmmm okay" | [03:02] |
dignork | mircea_popescu: that pic should be used as CAPTCHA somewhere | [03:02] |
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mircea_popescu | dignork you now know reason #48768459 my write-on-tits thing is valuable. don't tell asciilifeform :))) | [03:02] |
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Vexual | Oh, Daddy, I thought it was an irish thing | [03:08] |
mircea_popescu | mpif report is out. apparently this month we lost almost a whole bitcoin SOMEHOW | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | teh managers plus all teh specialists pls to look into it make sure there's no mistakes ty. | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | "a while back i finally figured out what makes a good relationship." << from, of course, reddit. | [03:14] |
thestringpuller | oh wow | [03:20] |
thestringpuller | penguirker: is slow | [03:21] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpif-fmpif-july-2014-statement/ | [03:30] |
BingoBoingo | !mpif | [03:31] |
assbot | BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021715 B (Total: 474.87 B). Delta: -0.41 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+] | [03:31] |
Vexual | It might say Paddy, they look like rosary beads | [03:40] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00083312 = 12.9967 BTC [-] | [03:51] |
mike_c | hmm. http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-july-2014-statement/ bitbet paid mpif .8 satoshis in interest. | [03:51] |
assbot | BitBet (S.BBET) July 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [03:51] |
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mike_c | srsly i would kick in for an offical b-a accountant. | [03:52] |
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mike_c | bitbet profit includes partial satoshis too :) | [04:00] |
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mike_c | !mpif | [04:11] |
assbot | BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021699 B (Total: 474.52 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+] | [04:11] |
mike_c | another month, a clean slate. good luck managers! | [04:12] |
Vexual | and remember luckies, good management | [04:12] |
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Vexual | what are gracious donations to shareholders? re bitbet | [04:26] |
BingoBoingo | Vexual: People who send bets on things that have already been closed. | [04:27] |
Vexual | ie drunks | [04:27] |
BingoBoingo | Nah, leeches | [04:28] |
Vexual | some kinda fuckup | [04:28] |
BingoBoingo | Because often this means the condition to satisfy the bet has already happened | [04:28] |
Vexual | bitbet seems to run quite efficiently | [04:29] |
BingoBoingo | Indeed | [04:30] |
Vexual | %nethash | [04:31] |
mircea_popescu | and he left ? | [04:31] |
Vexual | whats 1th do to atc? | [04:31] |
Vexual | mikec? | [04:31] |
Vexual | presumably hes off being efficient | [04:31] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;seen smickles | [04:32] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;seen pierre_rochard | [04:32] |
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mircea_popescu | we're not doing too good for accountants somehow. | [04:32] |
mircea_popescu | anyone got one ? | [04:32] |
Vexual | not a cheap one | [04:32] |
kakobrekla | pierre was an accountant? | [04:33] |
mircea_popescu | http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7wiwgOlVT1qlne6uo1_500.jpg <<< imo this is a great idea. | [04:33] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla afaik. | [04:33] |
kakobrekla | !s well I’ll myself out then | [04:33] |
assbot | 2 results for 'well Ill myself out then' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=well+I%E2%80%99ll+myself+out+then | [04:33] |
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kakobrekla | weird. | [04:34] |
mircea_popescu | ditto. | [04:34] |
Vexual | pankakke might be a good acct | [04:35] |
mircea_popescu | i thought he was a coder. | [04:36] |
Vexual | he doesnt miss a trick | [04:36] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/04/malpidity/ | [04:37] |
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Vexual | it might be beneath him, but with his charting it might be mutually beneficial | [04:39] |
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Vexual | im not trying to belittle accountants, but in my experience, there are two kinds, and you prolly need a third | [04:51] |
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nam-shub | I know a guy that sends numbers to accountants all day -- he desperately wants more bitcoin | [04:59] |
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mircea_popescu | nam-shub hm ? | [05:12] |
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nam-shub | I know a guy who can assemble random financial transactions for consumption by the accounting community. more or less in an automated fashion. (There was a discussion prior about a b-a accountant.) | [05:16] |
nam-shub | this guy I know takes bitcoin | [05:17] |
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Vexual | does he give advice or do what he's told? | [05:18] |
nam-shub | often gives advice and is told what to do instead | [05:19] |
Vexual | lol | [05:19] |
nam-shub | but generally just does what he's told | [05:19] |
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peterl | mircea_popescu: your MPOE report mentioned a new advertising listing, has this been discussed here? | [05:20] |
peterl | is it going to be called S.AD? | [05:21] |
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ben_vulpes | :( | [05:25] |
BingoBoingo | !up The20YearIRCloud | [05:25] |
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mircea_popescu | peterl nah, s.van. it's been discussed, some pople are alphaing it. | [05:26] |
The20YearIRCloud | joy | [05:26] |
The20YearIRCloud | what shall i talk about | [05:26] |
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ben_vulpes | The20YearIRCloud: how'd the con call go? | [05:26] |
asciilifeform | s.van? why not s.wagen | [05:26] |
peterl | ok, I'll keep digging through the logs some more | [05:26] |
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The20YearIRCloud | Pretty good, no complaints, everyone was excited about the news, not happy about the complaint or two I got on the forum afterwards, but then I can't please everyone it seems | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | so when i release this latest letter from stan, i think some people's brains will pop. | [05:27] |
The20YearIRCloud | stan? | [05:28] |
Vexual | alovakistan! | [05:28] |
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asciilifeform | my brain popped, only fair that other folks' should also. | [05:28] |
Vexual | a furious fit in the shit pit from a mick dick, trying to make her slit chink | [05:29] |
The20YearIRCloud | Hoping the bank gets approval soon for us, that way we can go onto this student housing project soon | [05:29] |
Vexual | ^thats for you fluffypony | [05:29] |
ben_vulpes | ;;yivkrtticker | [05:29] |
gribble | Error: "yivkrtticker" is not a valid command. | [05:29] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ticker | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | The20YearIRCloud what were teh complaints ? | [05:30] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.98, Best ask: 583.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 583.98, 24 hour volume: 5577.83784841, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 0 | [05:30] |
ben_vulpes | !t h rent | [05:30] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00350105 / 0.00395441 / 0.00419693 (257 shares, 1.01628376 BTC), 7D: 0.00305500 / 0.00384313 / 0.00420000 (4507 shares, 17.32100546 BTC), 30D: 0.00305500 / 0.00413516 / 0.00540000 (12285 shares, 50.80045884 BTC) | [05:30] |
The20YearIRCloud | mircea_popescu: that I haven't been responding recently to all the accusations against myself and or the choices I've made | [05:31] |
The20YearIRCloud | At least , I think that's what they were about, one notable one was my choice of director for the HK corporation we have, and the other was complaints about a website I started 5 years ago | [05:31] |
ben_vulpes | quite the investors you've got. | [05:31] |
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mircea_popescu | o, you had a hk corp ? | [05:32] |
The20YearIRCloud | Those were accusations made by a 3rd party against us | [05:32] |
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The20YearIRCloud | Yes, in order to try and be SEC complaint, all the shares go through a HK holding corporation | [05:32] |
The20YearIRCloud | exchange>HK corp>US LLC | [05:32] |
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peterl | I don't think the RENT forum complaints come from investors | [05:34] |
The20YearIRCloud | None do, however in this case I had a investor complain because I wasn't addressing the concerns from those individuals | [05:34] |
Vexual | if i was an invextor id ask when the growth might arrive | [05:35] |
The20YearIRCloud | Even though I explained to them it creates liability on my end because unless what I say goes through atty review, it opens the company up to liability. | [05:35] |
The20YearIRCloud | And that's what investors should be concerned about : Timeframes, equity statements, income projections | [05:35] |
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Vexual | well, whers the new funding then? | [05:36] |
The20YearIRCloud | Hopefully next week | [05:36] |
Vexual | who? | [05:36] |
The20YearIRCloud | We have preliminary approval finally from a lender who offered us pretty attractive terms, and the setup is essentially open-ended | [05:37] |
Vexual | is it reasonable to realease info here? | [05:37] |
The20YearIRCloud | Yeah , it's a 100k line of credit @ 5% or so and interest only payments, we use LOC to go out and buy new properties, rehab them then refinance the property to cashout the LOC | [05:38] |
The20YearIRCloud | The refinance is prime + 2% as a commercial mortgage to our LLC, which is a pretty decent rate. The big benefit compared to just going out and refinancing all the properties at once is that the investors essentially won't see any decreases in the small dividends that they're getting now, only growth. | [05:39] |
Vexual | i know all that | [05:39] |
The20YearIRCloud | ok | [05:40] |
Vexual | why are your good ol boys so slow at fising a house? | [05:40] |
Vexual | *fixing | [05:40] |
The20YearIRCloud | Because we pay them 1/2 the rate that the fast contractors charge :D | [05:40] |
Vexual | are they better? | [05:41] |
The20YearIRCloud | On top of that, i've had to make the choice between quick repairs and losing them to other firms, and giving them all the work they can handle at a slower pace. They prefer working for me over other crews, but in order to speed up the rehab time, I have to hire more people. The more people I hire without a big budget, the higher the chance of regular layoffs | [05:41] |
The20YearIRCloud | which make workers find work elsewhere | [05:41] |
Vexual | but you have a crew you employ on a permenant basis? | [05:42] |
The20YearIRCloud | Yes, they're fantastic. Right now we employ 2 guys full time who are doing virtually everything associated with repair/renovation | [05:42] |
asciilifeform | enlighten me re: 'rent' setup. if i recall, the properties all cost five-figure usd sums... why would anyone rent these ? (that is, who is so poor to rent vs. buy a mud shack like this, but could still make timely rent?) | [05:42] |
The20YearIRCloud | Yes, and that's why rehab is so slow, becuase they both have families, and my preference is not to give them a income rollercoaster | [05:42] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [05:42] |
peterl | me! I rent | [05:42] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.55, Best ask: 583.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 583.55, 24 hour volume: 5552.38589767, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 0 | [05:42] |
asciilifeform | peterl: i also rent. but not mud shack. | [05:42] |
The20YearIRCloud | asciilifeform: in our area, the median home value is around $100k, most of the properties we have are worth around $75k or so after rehab, so they're not really bad houses. Most of our renters have small-ish incomes and they don't want to mess with repairs | [05:43] |
Vexual | well they might want a kick in the rectum wehn you ge some more cahs | [05:43] |
asciilifeform | aha | [05:43] |
The20YearIRCloud | Most people I've talked to don't have the cash outlay to fix say a $4k roof when the time comes, and they make the choice of renting so someone else has to deal with it. | [05:43] |
The20YearIRCloud | Outside of the multi-family properties we have that we haven't been able to renovate, all our properties are very nice | [05:44] |
peterl | currently US banks require a large down payment to get a mortgage, USians have no savings, therefore they can't buy a house | [05:44] |
asciilifeform | peterl: and, i imagine plenty of the ones who can - would rather be shot | [05:44] |
The20YearIRCloud | Correct, and many don't have good credit either, most americans can't manage their money | [05:44] |
The20YearIRCloud | The last house we bought was $23k, and it is in fantastic shape - New electric, new plumbing, ~1200sf and the woodwork throughout is from 1890 | [05:45] |
cazalla | 75k for a house, that's just the deposit in this suburb : | [05:45] |
asciilifeform | 75k buys, perhaps, a garage here. | [05:45] |
The20YearIRCloud | Not all areas like that - In our area, $175k-$200k will get you 3000-4000 finished square feet | [05:45] |
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The20YearIRCloud | One house I worked with sold at $155k and was over 6,000 finished square feet, came with a full granite wet bar in the basement with a walking sauna | [05:46] |
Vexual | re bullshit | [05:47] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/04/malpidity/ lmao | [05:47] |
assbot | Malpidity | Bingo Blog | [05:47] |
Vexual | you couldn't flip a house if it was already upside down | [05:47] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Thank you | [05:47] |
The20YearIRCloud | what do you mean Vexual ? | [05:48] |
Vexual | prove me wrong | [05:48] |
The20YearIRCloud | I don't understand the question | [05:48] |
Vexual | got a sheet of foolscap? | [05:49] |
The20YearIRCloud | Not on me | [05:50] |
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The20YearIRCloud | You're talking about the paper size, correct? | [05:51] |
Vexual | any paper will do | [05:51] |
Vexual | i thought you were an olschool accountant | [05:52] |
The20YearIRCloud | Nope, i'm not oldschool anything I can think of, unless you're into ww2 stuff :D | [05:52] |
Vexual | protip: you'll need a pencil | [05:52] |
The20YearIRCloud | Yeah, i've got notebook paper here | [05:52] |
Vexual | ok draw house | [05:53] |
The20YearIRCloud | mircea_popescu: that article is scary | [05:53] |
The20YearIRCloud | ok | [05:53] |
Vexual | what next | [05:53] |
The20YearIRCloud | I've drawn a house | [05:54] |
Vexual | this is the part where you do something | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | which one ? | [05:54] |
The20YearIRCloud | BingoBoingo's article about malpidity | [05:55] |
The20YearIRCloud | I still can't grasp what you're doing unfortunately Vexual | [05:55] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: Vexual is a Markov Chain | [05:55] |
The20YearIRCloud | are you kidding me? | [05:56] |
BingoBoingo | Maybe? | [05:56] |
Vexual | no | [05:56] |
mthreat | i have a theory that everyone is a markov chain, but some of us are larger chains than others | [05:56] |
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mircea_popescu | mthreat by the way, you coming to that thing wed ? | [05:56] |
The20YearIRCloud | I've never met a markov chain that put reasonable responses together | [05:56] |
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mthreat | mircea_popescu: which thing | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | The20YearIRCloud i take it you don't read vexual | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat coffee chat thing | [05:56] |
Vexual | now kick those good old boys hard just behind the balls and turn the paper 180 | [05:57] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu: oh, hmm not sure. i'm actually working for a local startup. I'm a working stiff again. | [05:57] |
BingoBoingo | !up The20YearIRCloud | [05:57] |
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mircea_popescu | they have local start-ups ?! | [05:57] |
The20YearIRCloud | i need to get my vpn up again so I can auth at home | [05:57] |
The20YearIRCloud | Let it be known - I tried to explain company concepts to a bot | [05:58] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu: if I can make it, i'll be there. Ya, just working in the afternoons right now, for a month test | [05:58] |
mircea_popescu | aite. | [05:58] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo http://contravex.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/http:// << this link is broken | [05:58] |
assbot | Page not found | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski | [05:58] |
BingoBoingo | Ah, will fix nao | [05:58] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu: michelle will be there | [05:59] |
The20YearIRCloud | Obama? | [05:59] |
mthreat | pleese | [05:59] |
mircea_popescu | The20YearIRCloud a better looking michelle. | [05:59] |
The20YearIRCloud | rodriguez? | [05:59] |
mircea_popescu | "I'm not surprised you get along well with all the other neighbours. If you put fifty children with Down's syndrome in a room there is going to be a lot of hugging." << hawthorne should be quoted more often. | [05:59] |
mthreat | ya michelle rodriguez is hot alright | [06:00] |
BingoBoingo | Indeed he should be | [06:00] |
The20YearIRCloud | that's the first famous michelle that came to mind | [06:00] |
mircea_popescu | i had no idea she existed. | [06:00] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu: who, michelle rodriguez? don't you watch fast & furious movies?? | [06:01] |
mircea_popescu | uh | [06:01] |
mircea_popescu | what are those ? | [06:01] |
mthreat | cars, explosions, breaking laws of physics | [06:02] |
mircea_popescu | action flicks. no, i don't watch action flicks. | [06:02] |
mircea_popescu | Whereas historically a maliciously stupid idea might be contained by geography and manage to make one village suffer while its neighboring town dismissed it, the Internet allows the maliciously stupid to grow self reinforcing networks where they can oppose cognitive function together. << "oppose cognitive function together altogether" lol. | [06:02] |
mircea_popescu | The malpid don't have to establish that criticism of them as wrong, because they will instead insist the criticism is mean. When their favored shiny object betrays them, they will insist the criticism could not have been right as it was mean and they were doomed by some nebulous concept; perhaps they invoke "events that transpired", maybe they invoke "people were mean and that destroyed confidence in out project", but | [06:03] |
mircea_popescu | whatever they invoke will have been "outside their control". | [06:03] |
mircea_popescu | this dude sorta sits there and chats for a while, then makes a post that makes you suspect maybe he understands a lot more than he lets on. | [06:03] |
mircea_popescu | the ruminant type of thinker. | [06:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15822 @ 0.00083323 = 13.1834 BTC [+] | [06:04] |
BingoBoingo | Well, this idea had been floating around in my head since the middle of last week and the recent Trilema posts offered the linguistic tools to attack this problem. | [06:06] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-july-2014-statement/ | [06:09] |
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ben_vulpes | pfff | [06:11] |
punkman | morgen | [06:11] |
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punkman | good post BingoBoingo | [06:12] |
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ben_vulpes | "Eliminated /all/ dependencyii on our microcontroller manufacturer’s (Microchip Inc.) build chain and libraries" | [06:13] |
mircea_popescu | ikr? | [06:14] |
mircea_popescu | hey punkman | [06:14] |
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BingoBoingo | S.NSA statements are the best | [06:15] |
ben_vulpes | dang. so was last december an intentional red herring? | [06:16] |
ben_vulpes | can't tell if strategy or what | [06:16] |
BingoBoingo | punkman: ty | [06:17] |
mircea_popescu | ikr? | [06:17] |
punkman | rewriting the build chain, building pick n place from scratch, so punk | [06:17] |
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mircea_popescu | totally punk. | [06:18] |
mircea_popescu | let's just hope he doesn't figure out how to make girls before he finishes cardano | [06:18] |
BingoBoingo | With all of these tools, I have to wonder what the hell is on order for the second product | [06:19] |
* | asciilifeform blows dust off '2nd product' prototype... | [06:20] |
mircea_popescu | so about... well just about five years ago i did this thing where i gave a free domain + free cpanel hosting to a bunch of romanian bloggers that seemed more or less okay. | [06:20] |
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mircea_popescu | all this living on a server somewhere, meanwhile forgotten about | [06:20] |
mircea_popescu | today i went through the logs. guess how many of these blogs sitll exist today ? | [06:20] |
mircea_popescu | ~20 to start with | [06:20] |
BingoBoingo | 2? | [06:21] |
punkman | 2? | [06:21] |
asciilifeform | 1. | [06:21] |
mircea_popescu | 2. | [06:21] |
mircea_popescu | well done. | [06:21] |
mircea_popescu | one exists as a private only thing, the other not updated since 2013 | [06:21] |
BingoBoingo | * asciilifeform blows dust off '2nd product' prototype... << Is it a hammer? Just a simple, heavy, old fashioned breaking shit hammer? | [06:22] |
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asciilifeform | lol | [06:22] |
asciilifeform | get hammer from... s.mash | [06:23] |
BingoBoingo | !b 3 | [06:23] |
assbot | Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1RSPK5J.txt ) | [06:23] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: the armour made of ceramic floor tiles is a real winner | [06:24] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: how did you even find. | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | wait. isn't a piece of armor made out of floor tile actually going to SHARPEN the blade on its way in ? | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | i know i sometimes crack a tile to make a sharpener if in a pinch | [06:24] |
asciilifeform | as far as i can tell, it was suggested against small arms | [06:25] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Season 3 episode 4 of "Doomsday Preppers" was mining show for lulz to write on in comparison to Doge et all. | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | that ain't gonna work. | [06:25] |
asciilifeform | the odd thing here, the firing range folks are traditionally - empiricists. | [06:25] |
asciilifeform | no one thought of trying? | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [06:26] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Armor defeated .22 LR and 12 gauge birdshot (thanks to the plate steel used) Failed to .30-06 | [06:26] |
* | asciilifeform has probably watched every readily available physical object fired upon, on 'youtube' | [06:26] |
punkman | string and phonebook would have worked better than ceramic tile | [06:27] |
BingoBoingo | This particular idiot tested this with 12 gauge again in a worn test. | [06:27] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of empiricists : 2nd guy in here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXitc3txlso | [06:27] |
assbot | OH thats got to hurt - YouTube | [06:27] |
mircea_popescu | "my name is ethel mormon and this is the raquetball trick" | [06:27] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu> wait. isn't a piece of armor made out of floor tile actually going to SHARPEN the blade on its way in ? << You forget 'Murican series with subsequent blindspot towards sharp objects as a thing to armor against. | [06:29] |
mircea_popescu | right, because if i gotta kill some idiots on a hallway somewhere im going to take an anti tank missile launcher | [06:30] |
asciilifeform | 'kevlar' cuts great with even the cheapest knife... | [06:30] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 499 @ 0.00220054 = 1.0981 BTC [-] {3} | [06:31] |
mircea_popescu | rather than a five inch blade with their name on it. | [06:31] |
Vexual | fast and furious? machete more like | [06:31] |
asciilifeform | on a positive note, the art of bayonet is still taught in usa. | [06:31] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/08/04/tank_biathlon_the_bizarre_new_sport_invented_by_the_russian_military_is.html | [06:38] |
assbot | Tank biathlon: The bizarre new sport invented by the Russian military is just like biathlon... but with tanks. | [06:38] |
BingoBoingo | "The teams have all been provided with Russian T-72B tanks, except for the Chinese, who apparently came with their own vehicles." | [06:39] |
BingoBoingo | ^ The Chinese working on cultivating another export market? | [06:39] |
Vexual | remember alibaba 5 years ago? | [06:40] |
Vexual | military tank was a valid search term | [06:41] |
BingoBoingo | Interesting | [06:41] |
ben_vulpes | what does "cryptocurrency" mean? | [06:42] |
ben_vulpes | the best i've come up with isn't even complete | [06:42] |
ben_vulpes | "a cryptographically-secured distributed record of transactions" | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes it doesnt mean much. | [06:43] |
ben_vulpes | "transaction ledger" | [06:43] |
mircea_popescu | it's just the current label for bitcoin and bitcoin-forks | [06:43] |
ben_vulpes | bitcoin is defined by implementation | [06:43] |
ben_vulpes | what the fuck is bitcoin then | [06:43] |
Vexual | bingoboingo: it was the drones that started the emails flying | [06:43] |
ben_vulpes | "a cryptographically-secured transaction ledger"? | [06:44] |
mircea_popescu | a lot more thought will have to go into SPECIFYING B ITCOIN | [06:44] |
mircea_popescu | before terms can like have definitions and whatnot. | [06:44] |
ben_vulpes | mkay. | [06:44] |
ben_vulpes | still a cool thing to hack on for anyone who wants to write hard software but not make any more. | [06:44] |
ben_vulpes | s/more/money | [06:44] |
ben_vulpes | but consider ripple | [06:45] |
ben_vulpes | one can run a ripple client. it's not a bitcoin fork. | [06:45] |
ben_vulpes | or ethereum for that matter. | [06:45] |
ben_vulpes | (someday) | [06:45] |
Vexual | benkay, why not shell into your neighbours dishwasher if you need your dishes done? | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | how is it not a bitcoin fork ? | [06:45] |
ben_vulpes | *mind blown* | [06:46] |
mircea_popescu | yw come again | [06:46] |
mircea_popescu | don't forget to tip the girl downstairs. | [06:46] |
mircea_popescu | and with that, i'm off! | [06:47] |
ben_vulpes | no but no but no | [06:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27556 @ 0.0008473 = 23.3482 BTC [+] {2} | [18:52] |
punkman | http://online.wsj.com/articles/meet-the-secs-6-500-whistleblowers-1406591157 | [18:23] |
assbot | Meet the SEC's 6,500 Whistleblowers - WSJ | [18:23] |
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mircea_popescu | punkman does it say how much total $$$ it paid them ? | [18:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.263 = 0.526 BTC [-] | [18:24] |
punkman | "The program has brought in more than $150 million in restitution and fines via five cases from eight whistleblowers. That has translated to more than $15 million in payments to the whistleblowers, including a $14 million jackpot to one person. " | [18:24] |
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mircea_popescu | pankkake you public danger you. | [18:26] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/the-pseudo-bitcoinsphere-feels-just-as-squishy-poo-as-the-romanian-pseudo-blogosphere-felt-five-years-or-so-ago/#comment-104157 | [18:26] |
assbot | The pseudo-Bitcoinsphere feels just as squishy-poo as the Romanian pseudo-blogosphere felt five years or so ago. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [18:26] |
mircea_popescu | mp "what's wrong with using blogs.b-a for a news source ?" op "What’s wrong with it is that if you visit with an iOS device, you’re redirected to a page that says “no hipsters allowed.”" | [18:26] |
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punkman | pankkake: lol | [18:26] |
pankkake | it's not the first complaint | [18:26] |
mircea_popescu | punkman neither 8 nor 5 ==== 6500 ? | [18:26] |
pankkake | it's on the whole server, iP*ds are banned | [18:27] |
pankkake | sometimes I think of banning all macs and all chromes, or removing the thing | [18:27] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: numbers what do they even mean | [18:27] |
mircea_popescu | punkman i know right, do you even number ??? | [18:27] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake but... why. | [18:27] |
punkman | SEC sure as hell don't | [18:27] |
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mircea_popescu | i mean, so they're hipsters. we don't take them to bed. you won't even sell them liquour now ? | [18:27] |
mircea_popescu | they can't get laid period ? what is this. | [18:28] |
pankkake | for the lulz, though I've had enough lulz after a few years | [18:28] |
pankkake | by the way, images are replaced by goatse for ip*ds | [18:29] |
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pankkake | (and it used to be only goatse) | [18:29] |
pankkake | so, removing it for now. I might enable it on some domains only | [18:29] |
ben_vulpes | AWESOME | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [18:29] |
pankkake | Kindle's were banned too | [18:29] |
ben_vulpes | can we get log.bitcoin-assets.com styled for mobile too? | [18:30] |
ben_vulpes | survant james'd be happy to do it for 1 BTC | [18:30] |
BingoBoingo | mike_c: Looks you you have an ad nao! | [18:31] |
pankkake | if you provide me with a CSS (or even a full template, venus, the thing used to generate the planet, has templates), I'll enable it | [18:31] |
mike_c | geez :D | [18:31] |
mike_c | ad network of the future | [18:31] |
ben_vulpes | blame mircea_popescu the rules are his fault | [18:31] |
pankkake | something "responsive" :) | [18:31] |
ben_vulpes | compliments on technical excellence should be delivered to yours truly | [18:31] |
mike_c | and now van-ads degenerates into us out-bidding each other to troll each other's blogs :) | [18:32] |
ben_vulpes | SOUNDS GREAT | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c :D win. | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | actually i was going to make some announcements but IVE BEEN TOO BUSY SLEEPING AND WITH PERSONAL MATTERS | [18:32] |
BingoBoingo | What, I tied of seeing the default van ads while compulsively reloading MPIF tracker | [18:33] |
BingoBoingo | *tired | [18:33] |
mike_c | ben_vulpes: why is it crooked? | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-july-2014-statement/#comment-104158 << meanwhile that peter lambert TROLL keeps fixing my math | [18:33] |
assbot | WarOfLife (S.WOL), July 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | with even worse math | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c technical excellence, you wouldn't understand. | [18:33] |
ben_vulpes | blame imagemagick | [18:34] |
mike_c | crooked cocks just won't do. | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | wtf bs is that anyway! | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ident | [18:34] |
gribble | Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | because of ben_vulpes there's going to be a lot of extra ;;ident spam in here because fuck me if im going to type my keyid. | [18:35] |
BingoBoingo | lol | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes make a http://www.van-ads.com/login/txt/2FB7B452 dir. | [18:35] |
ben_vulpes | whatchu want in it? | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | and add a fucking cr , im sick of fishing the otp out from 33ae4284-cdba-46a1-b0ae-8f94f23b74acmirce | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes the equivalent of http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [18:36] |
ben_vulpes | what, pipe it into your os clipboard and call it a day | [18:37] |
ben_vulpes | http://www.van-ads.com/login/2FB7B452 | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu | and actually speaking of it : making a collision for 4 byte short ids is not that hard. i hope you check against fingerprints ? | [18:37] |
ben_vulpes | oh oh plaintext | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu | ie the whole number ? | [18:37] |
ben_vulpes | okay noted | [18:37] |
BingoBoingo | mike_c> and now van-ads degenerates into us out-bidding each other to troll each other's blogs :) << This is how markets begin. | [18:40] |
mike_c | sure, gotta have a hook for early adopters | [18:41] |
mike_c | this one will work | [18:41] |
ben_vulpes | van going down for deploy | [18:42] |
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BingoBoingo | !up Diablo-D3 | [18:43] |
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ben_vulpes | man that typeface is just horrid | [18:43] |
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BingoBoingo | %d | [18:50] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 432598.45 in 227 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -37.05 | [18:50] |
BingoBoingo | ;;bc,stats | [18:50] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 314105 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 390 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19572633738.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.46292 | [18:50] |
BingoBoingo | https://twitter.com/Lee_Ars/status/496707285801263104 "Protip: even if you work in a home office, always do product photography with pants ON. Because you just never know." | [18:53] |
pankkake | did you guys measure what percent of your readership are using adblockers? | [18:53] |
nagzter | nam-shub nanotube Naphex neuroMode nezZario nick1234abcd nkuttler NormDePloome novusordo NumberSix_ | [18:54] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake dun think so | [18:54] |
mike_c | mircea_popescu, when does trilema join the future? | [18:57] |
mircea_popescu | well aaactually that's part of what i was going to announce. | [18:58] |
BingoBoingo | "Lol, Cocks" << Spoiler of announcements | [18:59] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake http://trilema.com/2014/the-pseudo-bitcoinsphere-feels-just-as-squishy-poo-as-the-romanian-pseudo-blogosphere-felt-five-years-or-so-ago/#comment-104167 << :D | [18:59] |
assbot | The pseudo-Bitcoinsphere feels just as squishy-poo as the Romanian pseudo-blogosphere felt five years or so ago. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [18:59] |
mike_c | spoiler alert: trilema transitioning to contraquadlema | [18:59] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 426 @ 0.00216002 = 0.9202 BTC [+] {3} | [19:00] |
mircea_popescu | i just need longer titles. | [19:02] |
thickasthieves | mike_c he'd never give up the double-consanant | [19:02] |
thickasthieves | it's his .com | [19:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84700 @ 0.00084825 = 71.8468 BTC [+] {3} | [19:04] |
chetty | lmao, that magic serum they are testing for ebola, made from tobacco | [19:04] |
mircea_popescu | ahahah | [19:05] |
mircea_popescu | brb lighting a cigar. | [19:05] |
mircea_popescu | i am having the cutest avocado in the whole world. roughly the size of an ovary. | [19:06] |
chetty | I like the big ones better | [19:07] |
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chetty | hahahahaha | [19:08] |
BingoBoingo | chetty> lmao, that magic serum they are testing for ebola, made from tobacco << Mouse antibodies made inside a tobacco plant! | [19:10] |
chetty | BingoBoingo, yeah it actually sounds pretty yucky, but I suppose if you are about to die of ebola ... | [19:11] |
mircea_popescu | it'd be too late, then | [19:12] |
BingoBoingo | The serum's basically 3 different antibodies for three different targets on the Ebola virus found by giving mice ebola until they could create clonal lines for the cells producing these antibodies and then making tobacco grow it all | [19:12] |
chetty | mircea_popescu, apparently not, this serum appears to be curing it | [19:12] |
mircea_popescu | o wow. | [19:13] |
BingoBoingo | Generally though if you get a monoclonal antibody that targets something, it's going to kill it. The remarkable thing is they went ahead and found three just to be safe. | [19:13] |
mircea_popescu | this is sick, so basically they're inserting the missing antibodies thus allowing macrophages and whatnot to clear it ? | [19:13] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: The antibodies bind to the virus and... Boom | [19:14] |
ben_vulpes | and here i was hoping for a new global pandemic | [19:14] |
ben_vulpes | guess the biologists are useful after all | [19:14] |
BingoBoingo | Virus torn apart, no longer viable. | [19:14] |
mircea_popescu | impressive thing tho. | [19:14] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: Problem is scaling up production is a pain... | [19:14] |
mircea_popescu | tbh i think this throws a monkey wrench in the future viability of "big pandemic" scenarios. | [19:15] |
mircea_popescu | it's vanishingly improbable for an antibody to not exist. thus finding it becomes a matter of... well... how much hashing you're doing | [19:15] |
mircea_popescu | so if it comes to it... ten trillion mice. why not. | [19:15] |
BingoBoingo | Well, this stuff takes time, but yeah... One thing that makes this easier on Ebola and harder on say the flu though is... Ebola doesn't stay latent in cells | [19:16] |
chetty | dont dispair, there are always prions | [19:16] |
BingoBoingo | Also why there's no Aids serum working on this principle | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | chetty prions you gotta ctually eat. | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo afaik there was. | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | actually, im glad i got you pinned here bb, cause i wanna run this by you see what you think. | [19:17] |
BingoBoingo | K | [19:17] |
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mircea_popescu | so, aids "had no cure" for a while in the disco era. but then, late 80s/early 90s a certain thing was found that'd slow down its rate, adding 5 maybe 10 years le if well managed. after much hand wringing this was released to the public, | [19:17] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo afaik there was. << Problem is living cells (where antibodies don't go) harbor the pathogen in the case of AIDs | [19:17] |
ben_vulpes | (topical: .hiv pre-registration went up today) | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | only years later a 2nd thing was found. the magic involved was pretty evil, however : | [19:18] |
ben_vulpes | ( |
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mircea_popescu | if one had never taken pill 1, then a cocktail of 1+2 would stop the virus for them, pretty much resolving the problem. it'd never clear, but it'd never advance. | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | however, the people that had taken pill 1, then a cockail of 1+2 would be significantly less effecual. | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | basically making it a case of "fu for having taken our medicine". | [19:19] |
mircea_popescu | recently a 3rd one was found, which actually clears it | [19:19] |
mircea_popescu | and like last year something that works as a pre-emptor. | [19:19] |
mircea_popescu | ~ fin ~ | [19:19] |
BingoBoingo | Yeah. AIDs and the resistance it develops is weird. | [19:19] |
BingoBoingo | [19:20] | |
mircea_popescu | i think the biggest problem bar none of modern society is that average derp can name a dozen "puas" or "important feminists" or whatever th fuck | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | yet i have no idea who even came up with those things. | [19:21] |
mircea_popescu | who the fuck led the research effort that made ebola strain '#2 ? | [19:21] |
mircea_popescu | who's in charge of the lab that raises the tobacco growing it ? | [19:21] |
mircea_popescu | FUCK YOU MAINSTREAM MEDIA. | [19:21] |
mircea_popescu | i don't care who obama is. | [19:21] |
BingoBoingo | !b 6 | [19:22] |
assbot | Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0BZD1T0.txt ) | [19:22] |
BingoBoingo | AIDs though is weird because of how the virus adapts to drugs in situ. Maybe part of this is just drugs that fight it do so by fucking with DNA/RNA expression... Maybe it is just that much of a natural asshole. | [19:24] |
BingoBoingo | At least it isn't in the human genome like Herpes | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | technically it could be | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | if it's fragmented. | [19:25] |
BingoBoingo | Well, the it is definitely in particular person's genomes now, but... not across most of the species | [19:26] |
BingoBoingo | yet | [19:26] |
mircea_popescu | think of it : monkeys don't suffer much from it, so it's been around for a while. sure yurpeans "discovered it" but it can't possibly be the first case of interaction. | [19:26] |
mircea_popescu | for all you know it was part of the ancient egyptian genome, now extinct. | [19:26] |
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BingoBoingo | Well, that could be. | [19:27] |
BingoBoingo | Imagine if Khan swung through Africa before hitting Europe and introduced diseases other than "classic" plague | [19:28] |
mircea_popescu | in fact, it COULD be that aids-as part of genome is what makes niggers niggers. as unpleasant at that sounds, it's at least possible, scientifically. yet none of the speculative fiction folk with an axe to grind are using it. | [19:28] |
mircea_popescu | testament to the sad ignorance of everyone involved. | [19:28] |
BingoBoingo | Lack of historical Small Pox exposure made Americans vulnerable to distilled spirits? | [19:29] |
mircea_popescu | and why not ? | [19:30] |
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mircea_popescu | that's the halmark of speculative fiction. it asks science "and why not" an' science dunno. | [19:30] |
chetty | well these days most science seems to get the answer it wants first, then work backwards to the question | [19:31] |
mircea_popescu | i think that's been sop for a while. | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | newton got hit in the head by a falling apple... "hmm how could i turn this bump into a research grant" | [19:32] |
BingoBoingo | Speculative historical virology... Lots of ground for rich fiction. | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | yup | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu | i mean, the trope itself, "eschatological contagion" is like what, 1/3 of all of it ? | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu | yet they never fucking bother to do anything with it, just rehash the same crap. | [19:33] |
* | BingoBoingo remembers first discovering that Malaria, the exotic tropical disease was once endemic to the temperate Middle West | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu | well yes ? | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu | malaria is not exotic. | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | let me tell you something : 1950s romanian fiction about the life of romanian peastants cca 1900 includes malaria as a common disease. | [19:34] |
BingoBoingo | Well, in places corn grows it has become exotic... DDT did some work | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | surely. | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | (and yes these were corn growing ppls) | [19:35] |
BingoBoingo | One of the University of Illinois's rare closures came to malaria ~100 years ago. But since the corn growing people here now lack history... Once endemic disease is now exotica | [19:35] |
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chetty | lack of history is a problem all across the spectrum | [19:37] |
mircea_popescu | assbot: Damon Casarez photographs young adults who’ve moved back in with their parents. << i hope he photographs them with their clothes on in their own house. which is to say naked in the yard. | [19:37] |
thickasthieves | now that bitcoin is stable, when do mpex options come back? | [19:40] |
pankkake | I thought it was the lack of reputable exchanges | [19:42] |
thickasthieves | pretty much | [19:42] |
thickasthieves | lack of reliable ouytside data | [19:42] |
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thickasthieves | but reuters just added bitstamp btc to its software | [19:43] |
thickasthieves | it's pro! | [19:43] |
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thickasthieves | why doesnt bitcoincharts.com allow you to build your own index | [19:44] |
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thickasthieves | incl as many exhcngaes as you like, volweight and convert | [19:44] |
thickasthieves | badabing | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2014/07/Boomerang/Lila_boomerang_wip_1_HIREZ.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg << that's not her stretcher dildo is it ? | [19:44] |
thickasthieves | not yet | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | "Mikey Billings, 29, Statesville, North Carolina. Degree: B.A., film studies, Full Sail University. Career Goal: film or music industry. Current Job: working part time at a malt shop. Student Loans: $80,000." | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | right, because people who can't afford a piddly 100k are totally entitled to pursue their dreams now. and because people can learn how to make films. in school. | [19:45] |
thickasthieves | http://blogs.barrons.com/focusonfunds/2014/08/05/the-sp-500-just-fell-out-of-bed/ | [19:46] |
assbot | The S&P 500 Just Fell Out of Bed - Focus on Funds - Barrons.com | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | fucking hell's wrong with that place. | [19:46] |
TomServo | mircea_popescu: On that topic, I've been meaning to ask for a while... I thought Gox was deemed to be of ill-repute well before the shutdown. So why was still seen as a viable price indicator until it's bitter end? | [19:46] |
TomServo | And why are the current exchanges any less so? | [19:46] |
thickasthieves | if i recall, i think mp thought they had removed gox, though that wasnt til close to the end | [19:47] |
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thickasthieves | i could be wrong | [19:47] |
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TomServo | I mean as far as the options market goes. | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo well it's a complex matter, like all history. for one thing, mtgox was a (diminishing, constantly diminishing) part of the total pool. it looked for a while like the problem may solve itself. | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | moreover, you gotta read the article in question, i'm not going to do random interpretations off the cuff at any random point it may happen to be discussed. at no point in there is it said "closing options because of mtgox's poor repute". | [19:48] |
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thickasthieves | oh i recall, you wanted to cover your ass and discovered that wasnt so easy | [19:49] |
thickasthieves | so simple* | [19:50] |
thickasthieves | partly i ask about options due to the new accounts being purchased at mpex | [19:51] |
thickasthieves | they are making accounts to buy what? | [19:51] |
thickasthieves | i dont think there's been any notable volume outside of mpoe | [19:52] |
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thickasthieves | oh i see some XUR | [19:54] |
thickasthieves | X.EUR | [19:54] |
thickasthieves | not a lot though | [19:54] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/world/asia/afghanistan-attack.html?_r=0 | [19:55] |
assbot | Log In - The New York Times | [19:56] |
BingoBoingo | "U.S. General Is Killed in Attack at Afghan Base, Officials Say" | [19:56] |
TomServo | mircea_popescu: Seems fair, my mistake for conflating the two. I probably should've re-read before mentioning, but the timing worked so well. :P | [19:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 506 @ 0.00216002 = 1.093 BTC [+] {3} | [19:56] |
BingoBoingo | thickasthieves: Well, a good number of things have been IPO'ing these past few months | [19:57] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8308 @ 0.00085094 = 7.0696 BTC [+] | [19:58] |
thickasthieves | what was the size of those though? and you imply people paid 30btc to buy SWOL FMPIF? | [19:59] |
thickasthieves | 25btc* | [19:59] |
thickasthieves | or whathaveyou | [19:59] |
BingoBoingo | thickasthieves: It is possible. People could also be anticipating future offerings. | [19:59] |
thickasthieves | word | [19:59] |
thickasthieves | maybe these upcomking derivs | [20:00] |
BingoBoingo | Or the F.DERP fund when released | [20:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 369 @ 0.00216002 = 0.797 BTC [+] | [20:00] |
thickasthieves | http://www.coindesk.com/argentina-bitcoin-exchange-loses-bank-accounts/ | [20:01] |
assbot | Argentina's Only Bitcoin Exchange Loses its Bank Accounts | [20:01] |
thickasthieves | sry mp, looks like you have to move! | [20:01] |
thickasthieves | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cpew8/game_changer_bitcoin_research_at_the_federal/ | [20:02] |
assbot | Game Changer: Bitcoin research at the Federal Reserve and how I've lost my job : Bitcoin | [20:02] |
los_pantalones | http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/08/05/1916382/the-euro-as-a-precursor-to-bitcoin/? | [20:03] |
assbot | The euro as a precursor to Bitcoin | FT Alphaville | [20:03] |
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BingoBoingo | Alright, Imma nap and see what kinda trolling my ad slot gets... | [20:04] |
BingoBoingo | mike_c: Also maybe time to update some descriptions? http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/f-mpif/ | [20:06] |
assbot | F.MPIF Analysis - Btc Alpha | [20:06] |
mike_c | past time | [20:06] |
mike_c | thickasthieves: lol. "the fed is taking this SO SERIOUSLY that they had interns research it" | [20:07] |
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mircea_popescu |
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mircea_popescu | not necessarily a "what's on the shelf right now" mentality. | [20:10] |
thickasthieves | sure | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu |
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mircea_popescu | it's as if they somehow inhabit some imaginary sort of world where they're somehow important or something. | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | nfi what goes on through kids minds today. | [20:11] |
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mircea_popescu | meanwhile (for balance) : http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7qhokzqOA1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << these are all social studies phd's. | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | "Eric Curran, 23, Wahoo, Nebraska. Degree: B.A., history and religion, Midland University. Career goal: professor of Lutheran theology or history professor. Current job: education assistant at local public schools. Student Loans: $11,000." | [20:14] |
mircea_popescu | this really doesn't sound like a horrible deal. | [20:14] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2014/07/Boomerang/jacqueline_boomerang_HI_REZ.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg << check out rich chick. | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | "http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2014/07/Boomerang/jacqueline_boomerang_HI_REZ.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg" | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | "Jacqueline Boubion, 30, Diamond Bar, California. Degree: B.A. communications, California State University, Fullerton. Career goal: film director. Current job: production assisting in commercials and music videos. Student Loans: none, but $22,000 in credit card debt." << right. she's got problems. | [20:16] |
thickasthieves | Ethereum just passed 17k btc | [20:17] |
thickasthieves | they are building themselves a new karpeles in buterin | [20:17] |
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thickasthieves | https://www.whatsyourprice.com/ | [20:24] |
assbot | Online Dating | Buy & Sell First Dates | [20:24] |
thickasthieves | "Signing up for an online dating site and finding yourself facing constant rejection is a frustrating experience. It's even worse if you're certain that all those cyber-strangers would see what a catch you are if they would just give you a chance to impress. A new dating site offers a solution to this problem" | [20:25] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.264 = 1.32 BTC [+] | [20:26] |
punkman | advanced chumpatronics ^ | [20:26] |
thickasthieves | US being all meta again http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/08/05/the-post-offices-biggest-customers-are-fedex-ups/ | [20:38] |
assbot | The Post Office’s Biggest Customers Are FedEx, UPS - MoneyBeat - WSJ | [20:38] |
chetty | http://money.cnn.com/data/fear-and-greed/ | [20:39] |
assbot | Fear & Greed Index - Investor Sentiment - CNNMoney | [20:39] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 6985 @ 0.00024963 = 1.7437 BTC [-] {8} | [20:40] |
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mircea_popescu | thickasthieves what solution does it offer ? essay competition ? | [20:43] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 4708 @ 0.00017821 = 0.839 BTC [-] {25} | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | it'll never unseat reddit from that racket lol | [20:43] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Google Wallet to accept BTC" http://bitbet.us/bet/742/ Odds: 4(Y):96(N) by coin, 16(Y):84(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.38270356 BTC. Current weight: 11,337. | [20:45] |
punkman | https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/potato-salad-by-the-numbers | [20:49] |
assbot | Potato Salad: By the Numbers » The Kickstarter Blog — Kickstarter | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | "Zack’s project inspired some handwringing about What It All Means. Here’s one take: Kickstarter is a good place to aim high and go big, but small projects are great too" | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | no you fuckwits, it hasn't. it yielded a lot of ridicule for how kickstarter fails on both ends : it's not a way to get financed and it's not a way to allocate capital. well done. | [20:54] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 49.93375572 BTC. Current weight: 22,735. | [21:26] |
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mike_c | ^ good bet. not crossing 1000 until nov. 2nd | [21:32] |
decimation | http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2014/07/Boomerang/Annie_Kasinecz_IL_wip1_HIREZ.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg << was I the only one who thought "why the fuck would your mount an air conditioning compressor on your roof"? | [21:33] |
mike_c | some kind of swamp cooler? | [21:34] |
decimation | nah it's illinois, they have 95% humidity in the summer | [21:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008977 = 4.4885 BTC [+] | [21:35] |
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FabianB | $traded | [21:38] |
empyex | FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE | [21:38] |
decimation | I suspect it's the same reason the subject in question paid more than $75k to go to Loyla to get... a pr degree... and was unable to get a job in pr as a twentysomething non-ugly chick | [21:39] |
decimation | re: kickstarter : I think the real product is an illusionist's trick: I'm a somebody because I'm an investor, even though I'm investing chump change for the chumpatron | [21:41] |
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punkman | decimation: I think it's more fanboys and omg!gadgets! than "investors" | [21:46] |
decimation | well, are they actually buying a product? or "investing" in the hope that the product will come to exist? | [21:49] |
punkman | well depends on the product, donations to the church of SOLAR FREAKIN ROADWAYS is the latter | [21:50] |
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punkman | enthusiasts buying Oculus bought a product, just not as good as they imagined | [21:50] |
punkman | it's good that they couldn't sell equity on kickstarter | [21:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0008977 = 0.8977 BTC [+] | [21:57] |
decimation | http://trilema.com/2014/lets-pretend/ "The gold standard used to be the primary means through which the aristocracy got rid of weak or stupid monarchy, " << which is why leftist fantasy has always been the absolute state, which remakes the world according to their fantasy | [22:02] |
assbot | Let’s pretend… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [22:02] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27380 @ 0.00089481 = 24.4999 BTC [-] {2} | [22:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00089192 = 4.4596 BTC [-] | [22:04] |
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ben_vulpes | ;;calc 0.00089192 / 0.00000015 | [22:10] |
gribble | 5946.13333333 | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | so what does the group think, should i go to argentine law school ? | [22:10] |
ben_vulpes | yeeah! | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | i think i just might. | [22:10] |
decimation | do you have to go to law school to practice law there? | [22:11] |
mike_c | uh, no. school's out. | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | i already live five blocks down from it, im already taking the sophomores out for a ride... mgith as well. pretty much everyone's a lawyer here anyway. | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | decimation not even sure. | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c what, permanently ? | [22:12] |
mike_c | yes. could you not teach yourself whatever you want to know faster then they could teach you? | [22:12] |
ben_vulpes | ;;calc 0.00089192 / 0.00001921 | [22:12] |
gribble | 46.4299843831 | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | well obviously. | [22:12] |
ben_vulpes | (mpoe annualized p/e) | [22:13] |
mike_c | well then. unless you need a diploma. | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | i think you misrepresent the social angle here. | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | i've yet to go to college to learn wtf. | [22:13] |
mike_c | you said you're already getting the social benefits. | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | i don't know that. | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | maybe i'm missing out. | [22:14] |
ben_vulpes | i just want to read the reports about the derpage. | [22:15] |
mike_c | hehe. mayhaps. | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | besides, i miss being able to answer teh "occupation" query with "student" | [22:15] |
ben_vulpes | i say "student of power" when people ask. | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | i had a friend kept saying stuff like "ondinist" | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | "At the beginning of May, my team and I were assigned to an exploratory project. Typically summer is the off-season and most of the projects are time fillers that result in a few papers/presentations and are then archived and never heard of again. This project was different. We were given a direct research assignment from the Board of Governors a few hours after the conclusion of their May 29th closed meeting." | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | for redditards, may begins on the 29th | [22:17] |
decimation | re: shoot on sight: apparently you can kinda do this in texas, sometimes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy | [22:18] |
assbot | Joe Horn shooting controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | decimation the way it's supposed to work is that you can do it always if you have enough money. | [22:18] |
ben_vulpes | "upmost urgency" | [22:19] |
decimation | ie, the local baron's word is law upon his land? | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | decimation pretty much. pick a baron you like for a place to do business | [22:20] |
ben_vulpes | who's the baron of buenos aires? | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | you know, the way... wait for it.. the way bitcoin works., | [22:20] |
decimation | and the king's power derives from the assent of said baron under the conditions the baron sets | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes one macri. | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | decimation nah, the king's power derives from not substantially and unprofitably moving outside of the joint interest of the barons. | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | it's a finnicky thing | [22:24] |
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decimation | note that some chumpatronic engineers have actually used kickstarter to found successful business, but this is like trying to use panhandling to found a banking empire | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | re:mount on roof : the house is the shitty vinyl siding crap they do in the us. there was no place to attach it to the wall, as the thing has no walls. | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | decimation some woman parlayed a shoplifted pair of heels into a trip to ibiza. what of it ? | [22:44] |
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decimation | shitty house<< downer's grove is one of the richest suburbs of chicago btw | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | so ? | [22:45] |
decimation | headquarters of mcdonalds & related bezzle business | [22:45] |
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decimation | I don't dispute your point, I just find the irony amusing | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | i mean look at the shanty in question | [22:46] |
decimation | shitty businessmen build shitty homes to house do-nothing tweens | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | it was probably "affordable housing" as part of some development or w/e | [22:46] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/08/05/setting-up-a-debian-based-bitcoin-node/ | [22:47] |
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decimation | lol I like that the only brick structure is the random chimney sticking through the middle of the roof in a random spot | [22:47] |
decimation | but I suspect that everyone in that house considers themselves to be "rich" | [22:48] |
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mircea_popescu | no. they consider themselves to be sick, discriminated against and rape survivors. | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | the despicable vulgus considers itself whatever it is that pays. being rich doesn't pay anymore, it's much better to "have needs" | [22:53] |
decimation | ie the incel guy | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | same principle | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | Shakespeare: Rudder’s response: “To wring his hands all day for a hundred thousand dollars a year?”" << happens to be the exactly correct response. | [22:58] |
mircea_popescu | who is a "ethician" ? | [22:58] |
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decimation | one who lives in the land of ethics? | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes: | [23:00] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation aka the schmukette in the previous image. noty. | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | validating these twerps is worse than giving them a salary. | [23:01] |
decimation | which is why they are willing to work for no pay in 'internships', etc as long as they are working to overturn some heirarchy somewhere | [23:02] |
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mircea_popescu | i'd gladly pay them nothing at all while they worked at overturning their own hierarchy. | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony: BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure this isn't like MaidSafe - Vitalik does the tour circuit, and he's been building up to this for a while << so he's the new neoderp, whatever was that kid's name. | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | the "ceo" kid. | [23:03] |
fluffypony | the one that was super young and so therefore knew how to handle money? | [23:03] |
decimation | sometimes kulaks have subtle ways of fighting back: http://theden.tv/2014/08/04/rolling-coal-and-americas-class-war/ | [23:04] |
assbot | ‘Rolling Coal’ and America’s Class War | Theden | Thedening the West | [23:04] |
pete_dushenski | danny? | [23:05] |
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mike_c | no, you guys don't get it. this time will be different. #etherrocks | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [23:07] |
fluffypony | yes | [23:07] |
fluffypony | this time they will make it work | [23:07] |
decimation | interesting that its name derives from a substance whose existence was posited by pseudoscientists until maxwell et.al. set them straight | [23:07] |
fluffypony | and nobody will be better off if they just held on to their Bitcoin | [23:07] |
fluffypony | this time it WILL be different! | [23:07] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu:http://trilema.com/2014/the-pseudo-bitcoinsphere-feels-just-as-squishy-poo-as-the-romanian-pseudo-blogosphere-felt-five-years-or-so-ago/#comment-104157 << i get a kick out of the "no hipsters allowed" sign. mostly, it's implied consideration of ergonomics | [23:08] |
mike_c | here's an interesting question. of the BTC held by ethereum investors, what percentage did they give to vitalik? | [23:08] |
mike_c | > 50%? | [23:08] |
kakobrekla | you would only wish. | [23:09] |
mike_c | i can't even guess. i don't understand the thinking. | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | depends what you mean by investors. | [23:09] |
mike_c | people who bought ether. | [23:09] |
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mircea_popescu | you mean people, as in joe blow ? | [23:09] |
fluffypony | not the VC investors? | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | bout 5 to 10% | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | they also account for roughly nothing% of that lolfest. | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | "Goldman Sachs Group Inc.GS -1.32% says it knows what’s going to happen | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | when the Federal Reserve starts raising interest rates. The quick takeaway: Stocks look much more attractive than bonds–at least through 2018." | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | dude seriously ? rising interest makes stock more attractive than bonds ? | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | just how stupid is the average american by now ? | [23:11] |
pete_dushenski | pretty sure everything makes stocks go up, by usian logic | [23:11] |
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pete_dushenski | tornadoes in ohio, drought in nigeria, iphone 6, etc | [23:12] |
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thickasthieves | GS is so big they dont even care to be sly | [23:14] |
thickasthieves | they just say which way is up and up moves | [23:14] |
kakobrekla | re ether, this thing went vertical lol https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 | [23:14] |
assbot | Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 | [23:14] |
thickasthieves | vertilol | [23:15] |
thickasthieves | why does that graph make me so mad | [23:15] |
mike_c | holee shit | [23:15] |
ben_vulpes | over 20`000 | [23:15] |
thickasthieves | wtf do they think they are buying | [23:15] |
mike_c | ;;calc 200 / 12000 | [23:16] |
gribble | 0.0166666666667 | [23:16] |
ben_vulpes | well hang on if the company prices goods in inflating usd they can adjust pricing to match inflation. bonds, as the revered B sez, are a bad bad thing in inflationary situations 'cause paying a price now for money in the future that will be worth less. so confus. | [23:17] |
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mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes what company can inflate prices to match inflation ? | [23:21] |
ben_vulpes | coca cola, pfizer, budweiser, royal dutch shell? | [23:22] |
ben_vulpes | tide | [23:22] |
mike_c | companies don't set prices, markets do. | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | right, so if they double gas price people just pay 2x as much for gas. | [23:22] |
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ben_vulpes | sure but when the 16 oz can becomes a 12 oz can with a strongly concave bottom, coca cola charging the same amount... | [23:23] |
mircea_popescu | figure it out, man : if rates hike capital dries up. all of a sudden all the nude swimmers in the merger and acquisition smorgasbord are now up in thewinds. | [23:23] |
mircea_popescu | so they go bankrupt | [23:23] |
mircea_popescu | how much are the shares of a company worth, that's bankrupt and can adjust prices to buffer inflation ? | [23:23] |
kakobrekla | quick bb, ether will collect over 30k? | [23:23] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla i should hope they will collect over 700k btc and change. | [23:23] |
mike_c | kakobrekla: you betting no? | [23:23] |
mircea_popescu | gotta compete with mpex on equal terms yo! | [23:23] |
kakobrekla | mike_c imo its gonna be close | [23:24] |
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pete_dushenski | "Vladimir Putin has attempted to sidestep Western sanctions on Russia’s energy sector by signing a $20bn trade deal that could see his country become the largest importer of oil from Iran." | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | he-he. | [23:31] |
pete_dushenski | the ol' reach-around | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | "Vladimir Putin has made a complete mockery of delusional US foreign policy yet again, this time anulling in one fell swoop decades of attempts to isolate Iran by signing a 700bn ruble deal". | [23:32] |
pete_dushenski | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tywGmsMBp4 << cirsrumvrent | [23:32] |
assbot | circumvent - YouTube | [23:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00089299 = 26.3879 BTC [-] {2} | [23:35] |
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pete_dushenski | https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/496773826684788737 | [23:36] |
pete_dushenski | gotta edumacate the goldbugs | [23:37] |
pete_dushenski | and e-mail subject line of the day goes to…. linkedin! | [23:38] |
pete_dushenski | "Congratulate Brock Pierce on the new job!" | [23:38] |
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mircea_popescu | he got a jerb ?! | [23:38] |
mircea_popescu | as in what, a nose job ? | [23:39] |
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justusranvier | https://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/08/05/with-apologies-to-margaret-weis-and-tracy-hickman/ | [23:39] |
assbot | With Apologies to Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman | Bitcoinism | [23:39] |
pete_dushenski | his new job is, you're not gonna believe this shit: dinner clubs | [23:39] |
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pete_dushenski | more lulz from linked in: "Anthony Di Iorio has added skills: Product Management" | [23:43] |
pete_dushenski | the product? ethereum, of course | [23:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13854 @ 0.0008848 = 12.258 BTC [-] | [23:47] |
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mircea_popescu | what do you mean "dinner clubs" | [23:48] |
mircea_popescu | justusranvier "Freelance Bitcoin evangalist" srsly ? | [23:49] |
justusranvier | I had to put something there | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | but it's not spelled that way | [23:49] |
justusranvier | what's a vowel between friends? | [23:50] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: i mean this noise https://www.facebook.com/749357781/posts/10152722391867782 | [23:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00088811 = 6.8829 BTC [+] | [23:55] |
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