Forum logs for 05 Apr 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

*	Now talking on #bitcoin-otc	[02:49]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. \| http://bitcoin-otc.com/ \| http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 \| Start with the ;;guide \| Before trading, talk to people, and check ratings. \| Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud \| Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc \| Bitcoin VPS: http://bitvps.com \| BTC → MP @ http://btcpak.com \| Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe	[02:49]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Wed Apr 4 06:47:00 2012	[02:49]
*	RedEmerald (~RedEmeral@unaffiliated/redemerald) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[02:49]
*	copumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)	[02:49]
*	akhan08 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/)	[02:49]
*	Rabbit67890 (~Rabbit678@128-2-178-69.static.gci.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[02:50]
BubbleBoy99	;;rate speed_racer8 1 Smooth BTC to USDPP Transaction - anytime again :)	[02:50]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user speed_racer8 has been recorded.	[02:50]
*	RainbowDashh has quit (Disconnected by services)	[02:50]
*	Rabbit67890 is now known as RainbowDashh	[02:50]
*	LordCanti has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[02:50]
*	Snapman is now known as Snapman[afkers]	[02:51]
*	MORA\| has quit ()	[02:55]
*	Snapman[afkers] is now known as Snapman	[02:57]
rg	lol	[02:59]
rg	ive got a hilarious URL	[02:59]
rg	but the nazis in here wont let me post it	[02:59]
rg	so go to #bitcoin-otc-nsfw	[02:59]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133350481630.jpg << brunette. not for work.	[03:00]
*	benjamindees (~ben@ip98-178-190-119.tu.ok.cox.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:01]
benjamindees	anyone know of a service selling calling cards for BTC?	[03:01]
*	zonic has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[03:02]
mircea_popescu	not afaik benjamindees	[03:02]
BubbleBoy99	;;rate mlinksva 1 Smooth BTC to USDPP Trade - mlinksva sent money first	[03:02]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mlinksva has been recorded.	[03:02]
*	zonic (~zonic@222.153.223.78) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:03]
*	ircWALK (~FACEBOOK@unaffiliated/ircwalk) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:04]
mlinksva	;;rate BubbleBoy99 1 smooth/quick usdpp to btc trade	[03:04]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BubbleBoy99 has been recorded.	[03:04]
ircWALK	hi. are we allowed to sell amazon usd here? its not fraudulent i promise. i got it through some marketing i did	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	ircWALK if someone accepts it you're allowed to sell anything.	[03:05]
ircWALK	nice	[03:06]
ircWALK	im not known here, but im going to try making a name for myself.	[03:06]
ircWALK	i will send first to reputable people. i have no idea how the WoT works, but i will find out.	[03:06]
*	bonks has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[03:07]
ircWALK	;;guide	[03:08]
*	AcidChip (~acidicchi@home.acidicchip.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:11]
*	AcidicChip has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[03:11]
*	BubbleBoy99 (~juliansar@dslb-084-056-235-004.pools.arcor-ip.net) has left #bitcoin-otc	[03:14]
*	copumpkin (~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:15]
*	ChanServ gives voice to copumpkin	[03:15]
*	zonic has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	Soo, MPOE April IPO up to 97.35175995 BTC. offered 4mn share block (implied price 26.7% of previous IPO). Expiring in ~48 hours, get yours in!	[03:16]
*	zonic (~zonic@122-60-126-72.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:17]
*	tummybug (57c6194e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.198.25.78) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:17]
*	Judge51 (45cc6ab7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.204.106.183) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:18]
tummybug	Hi guys, I used this chat to find people about a year ago to trade botcoin, could anyone give me a refresher on how I authenticate again with the same credentials i used last time	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	;;tell tummybug [guide]	[03:19]
tummybug	;;tell tummybug [guide]	[03:19]
tummybug	ty	[03:19]
Judge51	Anyone have an amount of coins 80+ to sell for moneypak	[03:21]
smiley__	;;gpg everify smiles	[03:21]
*	coingenuity (~coingenui@cpe-76-176-6-220.san.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:23]
*	coingenuity is now known as Guest49594	[03:23]
ircWALK	;;gpg eregister ircwalk 95BB8DD2D3FBE46A	[03:24]
ircWALK	wtf	[03:24]
ircWALK	no	[03:24]
ircWALK	;;gpg eregister ircwalk 95BB8DD2D3FBE46A	[03:24]
*	Guest49594 is now known as coingenuity	[03:24]
*	coingenuity has quit (Changing host)	[03:24]
*	coingenuity (~coingenui@unaffiliated/coingenuity) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:24]
ircWALK	i did nothing wrong on my side. is there a reason it might not work instantly?	[03:25]
ircWALK	;;gpg eregister ircwalk 95BB8DD2D3FBE46A pgp.mit.edu	[03:25]
*	david_werecat (~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com) has left #bitcoin-otc ("Sorry, got to go.")	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	;;query gribble	[03:25]
ircWALK	ok it worked now	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	he's here.	[03:26]
ircWALK	;;gpg eauth ircwalk	[03:27]
ircWALK	;;gpg eauth ircwalk	[03:28]
ircWALK	wtf [01:25] Request successful for user ircwalk, hostmask ircWALK!~FACEBOOK@unaffiliated/ircwalk. Get your encrypted OTP fr	[03:29]
ircWALK	but its telling me i haven't registered?	[03:29]
*	Ard1t has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[03:29]
ircWALK	;;gpg eauth ircwalk	[03:29]
*	Chickles has quit (Quit: Extraction complete.)	[03:29]
w00ly	with nickserv i think it means	[03:30]
*	llanox (46839491@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.131.148.145) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:30]
ircWALK	im reggd with nickserv	[03:30]
ircWALK	ill try something else	[03:30]
w00ly	and you went to the url and decrypted the message?	[03:30]
*	zonic has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[03:31]
*	zonic (~zonic@222.153.223.76) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:31]
Joric	wtf why there's so many mintchips today	[03:32]
Joric	related http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rtb0r/security_issues_with_mintchip/	[03:32]
Blitzboom	because it is an interesting topic	[03:32]
*	Ard1t (~shkodrani@unaffiliated/shkodrani) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:34]
*	Fnar has quit (Changing host)	[03:34]
*	Fnar (~Fnar@unaffiliated/fnar) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:34]
w00ly	besides otc, what's the cheapest method for getting btc from usd w debit/checking, online only and within 24hrs?	[03:34]
rg	you cant..	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	pretty much.	[03:35]
rg	unless you find someone to meet you in person	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	which isn't online only.	[03:35]
ircWALK	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:33f67713032f6a1f798a4a7b07ff285a1421317e758599000fff87fa	[03:35]
rg	or have popmoney.com	[03:35]
gribble	Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user ircwalk with key 95BB8DD2D3FBE46A	[03:35]
w00ly	i mean like depositing to an exchange	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	yu can try mtgox	[03:35]
ircWALK	;;gpg eauth ircwalk	[03:35]
gribble	Request successful for user ircwalk, hostmask ircWALK!~FACEBOOK@unaffiliated/ircwalk. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/95BB8DD2D3FBE46A	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	it will be ~5 days	[03:35]
w00ly	without going through a million exchangers	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	ircWALK take that to pm.	[03:35]
ircWALK	ah	[03:36]
*	bluemoon44 (~talalala@adsl-98-95-156-132.jan.bellsouth.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:36]
ircWALK	did i screw anything up by saying keys publically?	[03:36]
ircWALK	i guess its a OTP so shouldn't have done..	[03:36]
MBS	w00ly, can find something to sell for BTC that you can buy online	[03:36]
rg	nope	[03:36]
Judge51	anyone have 42 coins to trade for moneypak?	[03:36]
rg	youre good ircwalk	[03:37]
MBS	like just sold an EVE time code for 7.2 BTC	[03:37]
w00ly	ah that's kinda cool	[03:37]
mircea_popescu	ircWALK just spamming rhe chan, there's no point to do it publicly.	[03:37]
ircWALK	sorry i saw people typing ;; here and assumed this was the place to do it	[03:37]
ircWALK	yea you are right. sorry. i didn't realise it could be done by pm. i should have tried first tbh.	[03:38]
ircWALK	done now anyway	[03:38]
bluemoon44	;;getrating bluemoon44	[03:39]
*	dvide has quit ()	[03:39]
bluemoon44	;;getrating james	[03:39]
dirkdizzler	google alert says i am now top40 music rock star	[03:39]
rawrmage	lol	[03:40]
Joric	that canadian moosechip thing seems interesting )	[03:40]
weex	moosecoin	[03:40]
weex	mountycoin has a nice ring	[03:41]
mambahome	Can anyone sell $20 of btc via moneypak real quick?	[03:41]
ircWALK	i am going to list a 50$ amazon voucher with gribble. do i have to say a BTC price? or can i say "whatever current BTC equilvanet is according to mtgoxusd at time of purchase. 80% retail" ?	[03:41]
dirkdizzler	% retail is common	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	i think you can go something like 50 / {mtgox_last} or something, there's a syntax	[03:41]
*	zonic has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)	[03:42]
Greed	Ladies and gentlemen.	[03:44]
Greed	It appears we've reached a new precedent.	[03:44]
*	x0Jakeyboy0x (4bb7a43c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.183.164.60) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:44]
Greed	http://developer.mintchipchallenge.com/	[03:44]
Greed	Canada has adopted a digital currency.	[03:44]
dirkdizzler	old	[03:44]
dirkdizzler	flamed to pieces	[03:44]
Greed	How old?	[03:44]
Greed	And why?	[03:44]
x0Jakeyboy0x	Selling $25 dollar visa, anyone interested?	[03:44]
dirkdizzler	hours. double-spend on an sd card	[03:44]
rawrmage	lol	[03:45]
Joric	rule, canada	[03:45]
Greed	>Old	[03:45]
Greed	>Hours	[03:45]
Greed	The internet generation.	[03:45]
Joric	god save the queen	[03:45]
Greed	God save the queen.	[03:45]
rawrmage	Celestia save the queen	[03:45]
dirkdizzler	Queen save the ponies!	[03:46]
dirkdizzler	now clopbot me	[03:46]
rawrmage	i don't want to build a clopbot	[03:46]
dirkdizzler	lol	[03:46]
dirkdizzler	;;gpg info ircWALK	[03:47]
Perlboy	greed: isn't mint chip just an electronic CAD	[03:47]
Perlboy	not really a 'digital currency'	[03:47]
x0Jakeyboy0x	anyone looking to sell some BTC?	[03:48]
ircWALK	hey dirkdizzler	[03:48]
Joric	from what i can tell it's a signing chip	[03:48]
ircWALK	;;gpg info ircwalk	[03:48]
gribble	User 'ircwalk', with keyid 95BB8DD2D3FBE46A and fingerprint 122D1A70857C5928B623293995BB8DD2D3FBE46A, registered on Wed Apr 4 17:35:31 2012. Currently authenticated from hostmask ircWALK!~FACEBOOK@unaffiliated/ircwalk	[03:48]
*	zonic (~zonic@122-60-126-72.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:48]
dirkdizzler	from what i understand the canucki-coin is an sdcard	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	how the heck are you connected from facebook ?!	[03:49]
ircWALK	haha	[03:50]
dirkdizzler	idthink there's anything revolutionary, just canadian money on an sd card	[03:50]
*	coingenuity has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[03:50]
ircWALK	im not. i just wanted to give the impression im a n00b	[03:50]
ircWALK	(which i am )	[03:50]
Joric	canadian money was funny enough without an sd card	[03:50]
ircWALK	why the hell there isn't a facebook irc app i will never know	[03:50]
dirkdizzler	because facebook can't monetize irc?	[03:51]
ircWALK	anybody can make a facebook app. and im sure an app maker can figure out a way of monetising it	[03:51]
dirkdizzler	psuedo-free speech?	[03:51]
dirkdizzler	no one is interested in that	[03:52]
pigeons	people might leave facebook and they might have meaningful conversations on irc	[03:52]
pigeons	just kidding	[03:52]
*	amazingrando has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[03:52]
ircWALK	not to mention you might get hot girls in here too ;)	[03:52]
dirkdizzler	sometimes that happens	[03:52]
*	smiley__ has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[03:52]
dirkdizzler	and we have to explain nickserv	[03:52]
*	Aoifern (6382384a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.130.56.74) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[03:53]
ircWALK	lol	[03:53]
Aoifern	hi	[03:53]
dirkdizzler	also imsaguy is a pretty hot girl if you want to cyber	[03:53]
splatster	Hi.	[03:53]
Blitzboom	ijust want to cypher	[03:53]
Joric	so accepting mintchips is basically the same as buying CADs	[03:54]
Blitzboom	dat private key	[03:54]
dirkdizzler	I believe so Joric	[03:54]
Joric	1 Canadian dollar = 1.00361 U.S. dollars pretty cool	[03:54]
imsaguy	all I have for you Blitzboom is a public key	[03:54]
dirkdizzler	the card itself is doublespend and all sorts of bad stuff	[03:54]
dirkdizzler	if it is exploited	[03:54]
ircWALK	hmm. cyber + bitcoin. that has to be an idea right? underage strip shows...	[03:54]
Aoifern	Anyone help me out transferring $10 on dwolla to paypal?	[03:54]
Blitzboom	doublespend me hard	[03:54]
Joric	backed up by moose	[03:56]
ircWALK	why doesn't the drug scene use LR as opposed to BTC?	[03:56]
zveda	why is everyone talking about these mintchips	[03:56]
PaulZag	;;ticker	[03:56]
gribble	Best bid: 4.92002, Best ask: 4.9249, Bid-ask spread: 0.00488, Last trade: 4.92002, 24 hour volume: 49635, 24 hour low: 4.89, 24 hour high: 4.97	[03:56]
zveda	on every channel	[03:56]
mambahome	LR still has identifiers	[03:56]
ircWALK	oh yeah. i guess when you cashout you leave yourself open. but surely thats true with bitcoin aswell	[03:56]
mambahome	BTC has more anonymity than LR	[03:57]
*	Aoifern has quit (Client Quit)	[03:57]
ircWALK	ah ok	[03:57]
ircWALK	will take your word for it	[03:57]
BTC_Bear	There are so many ways to 'cash out' in BTC it become moot.	[03:57]
BTC_Bear	becomes*	[03:57]
ircWALK	i see	[03:57]
Joric	alpaca socks could be pretty untraceable	[03:58]
mambahome	LR has an annoying habit of recording IP's as well	[03:58]
ircWALK	well i figure socks5/vpn solves that problem	[04:00]
BTC_Bear	Doesn't everybody record IP's	[04:00]
x0Jakeyboy0x	Selling $25 dollar visa gift card	[04:00]
ircWALK	is there a domain registrar that deals with bitcoin now?	[04:01]
Joric	plenty of them	[04:01]
BTC_Bear	^^topic	[04:01]
mambahome	Well, I am by no means a bitcoin authority, I'm just throwing guesses out	[04:01]
mambahome	but I think people prefer btc because it removes a 3rd party	[04:02]
mambahome	during p2p transactions	[04:02]
*	JimmyHo2 (~JimmyHo2@d24-150-166-146.home.cgocable.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:02]
ircWALK	yeah. ive heard people use expressions like "using bitcoin is like using a chequebook" . im not sure of the validity of statements like those though.	[04:03]
ircWALK	i guess there is a reason the drug dealers use btc, and its probably not because btc was better promoted than lr im guessing	[04:03]
BTC_Bear	Drug deals have used every currency known to man, and will continue to do so. BTC is probably just one of many.	[04:04]
ircWALK	ye of course	[04:04]
ircWALK	when were btc first available for mining, and trading?	[04:05]
ircWALK	looks like i missed out on an opportunity to get rich :S	[04:05]
BTC_Bear	technically, 2009	[04:05]
ircWALK	when in 2009?	[04:05]
ircWALK	sorry im passing out and i cant be bothered going to webbrowsers right now lol	[04:05]
ircWALK	is there any s.r type market for gift cards etc? i am getting a fair few through some affiliate promotion i am doing at the moment. not sure why they aren't accepted on s.r	[04:07]
ircWALK	or maybe they are but nobody posts them	[04:07]
seco	ircWALK: bitcoin is not like a chequebook, you can keep it by word regarding it as "coins". using chequebook means you spend money you dont have yet, but hopefully at the end of the month :D	[04:07]
BTC_Bear	Phillip Phillips or Jesica Sanchez ?	[04:07]
ircWALK	omg i wish i still had my /google script	[04:07]
seco	what is different is, you can trace back every coin to the moment it got into the system!	[04:08]
Blitzboom	bitcoin is stable now http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#igWeeklyztgSzm1g10zm2g10zxzi1gVolzl	[04:08]
*	easystevey has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:08]
Blitzboom	goodbye volatility	[04:08]
rawrmage	ircWALK: you're... passing out?	[04:09]
ircWALK	yeah. it is an expression. meaning im very tired and cant even be bothered to move my mouse to the webbrowser	[04:09]
JWU42	Blitzboom: kinda boring now...	[04:10]
JWU42	like late 2010	[04:10]
benjamindees	http://www.stubbornmule.net/2012/03/bitcoin-revisited/	[04:10]
Blitzboom	yeah	[04:10]
BTC_Bear	Iron Condor?	[04:11]
benjamindees	this article claims 30 day volatility is still around 90%...	[04:11]
Blitzboom	wut	[04:11]
ircWALK	if i bought 1000$ worth of bitcoins the day bitcoins were available to purchase, and i didn't get hacked. and i sold at the right time, would i be rich? or is it more complicated than that? i figure you would have to cashout slowly to not cause a price crash	[04:11]
*	da2ce7 (~da2ce7@unaffiliated/da2ce7) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:11]
Blitzboom	oh, 5th of march	[04:11]
Joric	1000$ or 1000000$ ?	[04:12]
Judge51	anyone have 46 coins to trade for moneypak?	[04:12]
Blitzboom	ircWALK: yes, you would have been	[04:12]
ircWALK	ive seen graphs of bitcoins going from 0.005$ -> 35$ , and it kind of makes me puke. if i knew about bitcoins when they were first available to buy i definately would have invested 1000$ -> 3000$	[04:12]
Blitzboom	yeah well too bad	[04:12]
Blitzboom	me too	[04:12]
benjamindees	if you had bought a couple of years ago and then sold at the top, you could turn $1000 into $15 million	[04:13]
ircWALK	why the hell does it have to take a drugwebsite to get it popular amongst the mass public. bitcoin should have been promoted virally on fb imo	[04:13]
Blitzboom	too bad satoshi is not the best with social media probably	[04:13]
ircWALK	im not sure thats true benjamindees. are you sure not selling all those coins wouldn't crash the price and make them worthless?	[04:13]
BTC_Bear	;;calc calc 1000/.3*5	[04:13]
Greed	If it was promoted virally on Facebook I'm sure it would have been associated withthe wrong kind of crowd	[04:13]
JWU42	negative scare publicity "sells" better	[04:14]
Judge51	^	[04:14]
Greed	You don't really want a bunch of non-tech savvy people adopting a currency on their own, it'd be more problematic than anything	[04:14]
ircWALK	bitcoin is already associated with criminals and terrorists. promoting it virally in the early days wouldn't have made any difference imo	[04:14]
Blitzboom	ircWALK: do you have bitcoins now?	[04:15]
ircWALK	a very small amount, why?	[04:15]
Blitzboom	because it’s still early	[04:16]
Judge51	anyone have 46 coins to trade for moneypak?	[04:16]
ircWALK	tbh im so fucking pissed off at the sort of situation i ended up in in life when it was 2009. i used to hang on irc from like 97->2005. then i completely went off the scene.	[04:16]
ircWALK	if i stayed on, it seems like i would have known about bitcoin	[04:17]
ircWALK	and definately would have invested atleast 2000$ . i would have had faith in an anonymous currency exploding in value, if i had got in early	[04:17]
Blitzboom	maybe it would be more productive to look into what the future might hold	[04:17]
*	BohemianHacks (~chatzilla@108-95-126-135.lightspeed.mssnks.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:17]
ircWALK	yeah of course. im over it now.	[04:18]
*	amazingrando (~amazingra@nat60-100.kcls.org) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:18]
ircWALK	you really think bitcoin will massively go up in value again though? im not sure what to believe now	[04:18]
Blitzboom	i advise you to believe noone	[04:19]
ircWALK	ive heard people say it will /never/ get to 15 again let alone 30	[04:19]
ircWALK	or higher	[04:19]
Blitzboom	these are the people that got burnt	[04:19]
ircWALK	i swear im gonna drop like 2k$ on bitcoin soon. and then spend the next year trying to get it massssively promoted	[04:20]
BohemianHacks	So, can someone explain to me how I actually use my debit card in here?	[04:20]
w00ly	BohemianHacks: paypal?	[04:20]
Cusipzzz	ircWALK: your own personal pump-and-dump, nice	[04:20]
BohemianHacks	isn't paypal all butthurt about bitcoin?	[04:20]
Blitzboom	Cusipzzz: problem	[04:21]
w00ly	people trade btc for PP here all day	[04:21]
BohemianHacks	cool	[04:21]
ircWALK	i guess many think like that though. im sure if we think hard enough we can think of ways of making bitcoin go up in value massively.	[04:21]
Blitzboom	it’s easy	[04:22]
ircWALK	i mean i would happily invest a little bit to promote bitcoin all over schools. make flyers which show how price went up from 0.005 to 35$. say "get in now before its too late. buy bitcoin using ukash at your local newsagent!"	[04:22]
ircWALK	hopefully loads of school kids would start buying a bunch of bitcoins then. i mean what else can they invest in?!	[04:22]
MBS	anyone interested in getting 64GB crucial m4 ssds?	[04:22]
Blitzboom	LOL	[04:22]
Blitzboom	we definitely need lunch money	[04:23]
Blitzboom	also you must take candy as units	[04:23]
ircWALK	lolll	[04:23]
BTC_Bear	I can see a lot of college girls walking around with pimpcoin.com cards. Sad, but probably true.	[04:23]
ircWALK	im sure we could find 10k school kids who would invest 100$?	[04:24]
MBS	pssst	[04:24]
MBS	you can buy porn with bitcoins	[04:24]
MBS	and you can buy bitcoins with CA$H	[04:24]
ircWALK	stripshows yo! livejasmin but with bitcoin	[04:24]
ircWALK	how can it not be a success	[04:24]
w00ly	1) why would anyone pay for porno 2) why would 10,000 kids want to buy $100 of btc each	[04:24]
BohemianHacks	So, who wants to sell me my first BTC?	[04:24]
ircWALK	1) i dont think many would pay for porn, but a strip show i think they would 2) because im sure there is way more than 10000 kids that have way more than $100 in their savings. if you show them how they missed out on making millions before (show them graphs of 0.005->35), they will probably jump at the opportunity now	[04:26]
ircWALK	* - probably	[04:26]
benjamindees	somehow I think hawking risky investments to schoolchildren isn't the best idea...	[04:27]
ircWALK	i wouldn't want to convince them in any way that it is a sureshot way of getting rich. i would simply want to explain that it is an /option/	[04:27]
*	GlooBoy_ (48948d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.148.141.154) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:27]
ircWALK	and show them how the price exploded before	[04:27]
*	llanox has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:27]
w00ly	that run up was a year ago	[04:28]
*	Orion-Hax_____ (~Orion-Hax@71-34-37-197.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:28]
*	mambahome_ (a9e57178@gateway/web/freenode/ip.169.229.113.120) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:28]
w00ly	if they invested at that point they'd have like what $7 to show for it now	[04:28]
Blitzboom	so they need to get in before a runup	[04:28]
Blitzboom	and that’s how you get a runup	[04:28]
bitinstant	Hey	[04:29]
*	Judge51 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:29]
bitinstant	I need CryptoXchange Coupon	[04:29]
*	minimoose has quit (Quit: minimoose)	[04:29]
ircWALK	i wouldn't want to massively educate them on how risky it is. but at the same time i would want to explain how many people got rich before, and how the same thing can happen again.	[04:29]
ircWALK	anyway - im not saying its a great idea	[04:29]
*	x0Jakeyboy0x has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:29]
*	tummybug has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:29]
*	mambahome has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:29]
*	GlooBoy has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:29]
bitinstant	Willing to trade for MtGox, BTC-E, Bitcoinica, Virwox, or bitstamp	[04:29]
ircWALK	im saying there could easily be 1000 kids who have 100$ spare though	[04:29]
w00ly	now you're changing your numbers, you said 10,000 a second ago	[04:29]
Blitzboom	kandy 2012	[04:30]
ircWALK	lol	[04:30]
*	kaboodle has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:30]
bitinstant	Cry/win 18	[04:30]
benjamindees	it'll be great when you sell those 100 kids on Bitcoin...	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	the 10 girls ?	[04:31]
mambahome_	wow thats a pretty shady business tactic...	[04:32]
ircWALK	it is? i dont think its unethical in any way tbh. i wouldn't want to misinform them. id simply want to state the facts and show how much btc exploded.	[04:32]
ircWALK	they can them do research and come to their own informed decision.	[04:33]
ircWALK	then*	[04:33]
BTC_Bear	oh, sort of like the 'unlimited' in the unlimited phone plans?	[04:33]
PaulZag	bitinstant: lemme check	[04:34]
ircWALK	its not like that in anyway. telling somebody there is this unheard of cryptocurrency which exploded in value and made a bunch of people rich /is not unethical/	[04:34]
ircWALK	the unethical bit is telling them that they /will/ get rich, when that isn't a guarantee at all	[04:34]
bitinstant	PaulZag, thanks	[04:34]
*	pp7 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[04:34]
bitinstant	Need btwn 3-5k	[04:34]
PaulZag	sorry bitinstant I've only for 8.40AUD and 23.9BTC there right now	[04:34]
bitinstant	:(	[04:34]
PaulZag	I had 2K a few days ago	[04:34]
bitinstant	Anyone else have spare crypto funds? I will make it worth your while!	[04:35]
BohemianHacks	I love how seriously security is taken for all of this.	[04:35]
PaulZag	whatcha mean BohemianHacks	[04:35]
BohemianHacks	I just started using bitcoin yesterday	[04:36]
*	gribble gives voice to BTC_Bear	[04:36]
BohemianHacks	Ive had to go through a lot of steps to get everything going to trade bitcoins	[04:36]
BohemianHacks	kinda silly as Im a poor college age kid	[04:36]
ircWALK	my point is , bitcoin needs to be promoted more to potential users. kids dont have alot of options for investing, which makes them ideal canditates	[04:36]
BohemianHacks	so Im going to have 1.021 BTC when this is all said and done :D	[04:36]
BohemianHacks	but its interesting	[04:36]
*	Txyru (~Txyru@unaffiliated/txyru) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:37]
BTC_Bear	;;ident bitinstant	[04:37]
gribble	Nick 'bitinstant', with hostmask 'bitinstant!~charlie@174.129.196.152', is not identified.	[04:37]
PaulZag	kids don't want to invest ircWALK. they wanna partay	[04:37]
bitinstant	1 sec I will identify	[04:37]
ircWALK	mambahome_: please explain how promoting bitcoins to kids is shady. i hate shady crap, and wouldn't have brought it up if i thought there was anything shady about it	[04:37]
bitinstant	try again	[04:37]
BohemianHacks	its only shady if you are selling them the bitcoins	[04:37]
BohemianHacks	letting them know about it isn't in the least bit shady	[04:38]
ircWALK	exactly	[04:38]
BTC_Bear	;;getrating [ident bitinstant]	[04:38]
gribble	This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated.	[04:38]
seco	well most kids play games; theres nothing shady if they use bitcoin for microtransactions no matter if the games are virtually on with real girls :)	[04:38]
seco	or*	[04:38]
neofutur	;;ident bitinstant	[04:39]
gribble	Nick 'bitinstant', with hostmask 'bitinstant!~charlie@174.129.196.152', is not identified.	[04:39]
neofutur	;;gpg info bitinstant	[04:39]
*	mambahome_ has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[04:39]
seco	i just say daredorm lol	[04:39]
*	mambahome (a9e57178@gateway/web/freenode/ip.169.229.113.120) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:39]
bitinstant	Thats odd, Im logged in and identifued	[04:40]
ircWALK	yea tbh a stripshow site with bitcoins isn't something i would want to get involved in, for moral reasons. but i do think it could be relatively succesful if you could somehow tie it in with livejasmin	[04:40]
bitinstant	*identified	[04:40]
ircWALK	but i dont think that would work. livejasmin would want age verification i assume	[04:40]
PaulZag	ircWALK: MtGox USD volume over the last 24hours is 251,514.77USD how many $100 kids will it take to made a runup?	[04:41]
BTC_Bear	ircWALK: You actually bring up a good point.	[04:42]
PaulZag	anybody know what the daily volume was like during the last runup?	[04:42]
ircWALK	PaulZag: im not sure how to go about calculating that . i have no experience with trading whatsoever	[04:43]
ircWALK	BTC_Bear: i do? what was my good point?	[04:43]
BohemianHacks	What are some keyservers to use, im trying to set up GPG	[04:43]
*	funziggy (~funziggy@60-242-80-233.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:43]
*	Judge51 (45cc6ab7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.204.106.183) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:43]
ircWALK	BohemianHacks: gpg.mit.edu	[04:43]
BohemianHacks	thank you	[04:43]
ircWALK	http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication	[04:43]
neofutur	bitinstant: /query gribble then eauth and everify	[04:44]
BTC_Bear	Currently 'official' pr0n sites use CC as age verification. BTC would circumvent that	[04:44]
ircWALK	yeah, but it would make it highly illegal, and highly shady, which is why i guess it hasn't been done yet	[04:44]
ircWALK	way more shady/immoral than drugs	[04:44]
BTC_Bear	yea... however, the model that 'ladybytes' is using would work.	[04:45]
rg	;;ticker	[04:46]
gribble	Best bid: 4.90054, Best ask: 4.91532, Bid-ask spread: 0.01478, Last trade: 4.91542, 24 hour volume: 50937, 24 hour low: 4.89, 24 hour high: 4.97	[04:46]
rg	;;ident bitinstant	[04:46]
gribble	Nick 'bitinstant', with hostmask 'bitinstant!~charlie@174.129.196.152', is not identified.	[04:46]
Judge51	anyone have 46 coins to trade for moneypak?	[04:46]
*	yossarian_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[04:47]
JWU42	what are you offering per BTC?	[04:47]
rg	ive traded with Judge51	[04:48]
*	Keefe has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[04:48]
rg	hes legit	[04:48]
rg	just figured id throw that in	[04:48]
JWU42	thks rg	[04:48]
JWU42	;eauth subpar	[04:48]
JWU42	;;eauth subpar	[04:48]
Judge51	willing to do 46 coins for 250 moneypak	[04:48]
ircWALK	how hard would it be to create a livejasmin skin that uses bitcoin? site receives bitcoin and automatically relays the livejasmin stream to the skinsite?	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	you prolly should try it out.	[04:49]
ircWALK	would it need to be an onion site to stop getting shutdown?	[04:49]
JWU42	rg: WTF do i do with a moneypak	[04:50]
ircWALK	i have no interest in doing anything like that. im just curious from an intellectual point of view	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	tho i don'r imagine many people with bitcoins are in the market for porn.	[04:50]
JWU42	moneypak to PP ?	[04:50]
JWU42	there is a limit, no?	[04:50]
ircWALK	the project is too immoral for me to even consider doing	[04:50]
draco49	Buying BTC for $100 MoneyPak... me love you long time	[04:51]
JWU42	Judge51: nah - moneypak seems to suck	[04:52]
JWU42	dwolla?	[04:52]
phantomcircuit	mircea_popescu, for live performance porn? market is probably much larger than you think	[04:52]
ircWALK	i assume ill get a message as soon as somebody wants to buy this amazon.com voucher from me right? or is there something im supposed to be manually checking?	[04:53]
ircWALK	ive listed it using ;;buy	[04:53]
ircWALK	or	[04:53]
ircWALK	sell	[04:53]
ircWALK	heh	[04:53]
draco49	MoneyPak sucks? You're cool ircWALK	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	phantomcircuit maybe. tho if you have the intelelctual sophistication to have bitcoins in anny ammt you prolly have the intellectual sophistication to get a couple hos working the cams for you.	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	should you be so inclined.	[04:53]
phantomcircuit	lol	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, just guessin'.	[04:53]
ircWALK	lol draco is a bot i guess	[04:54]
draco49	Yep, you nailed that.	[04:54]
*	easystevey (60fa6de8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.250.109.232) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	draco49 is a livejasmin performance bot :D	[04:54]
BTC_Bear	**draco49 btcprice:prediction	[04:54]
bitinstant	Need CryptoXChange Coupon \| Will trade for Dwolla, btc-e, mtgox, virwox, bitcoinica ect..	[04:55]
draco49	Why don't you ircWALK your MoneyPak blasphememy outta here.	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	but srsly phantomcircuit : rent a two-three bedroom apt, fit the cams in it, go through campus/meth ghetto pick up 2-3 chicks and you're in business, your very own cam studio.	[04:55]
draco49	;;view 7511	[04:55]
gribble	#7511 Wed Apr 4 15:50:13 2012 draco49 BUY 19.0 BTC @ 5.2632 MoneyPak (None)	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	takes you 2 days.	[04:55]
phantomcircuit	mircea_popescu, i have absolutely no doubt that would work	[04:55]
phantomcircuit	the world is full of whores	[04:55]
phantomcircuit	(literal ones)	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	thing is most of them are lazy	[04:56]
MindChild	Thing is, porn isn't a big money maker	[04:56]
Blitzboom	exactly	[04:56]
MindChild	anyone can do it... and they do	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	but if you can go " here, lie down in this bed and take it off, that's all, $$$"	[04:56]
Blitzboom	that’s why they use the internet now	[04:56]
Blitzboom	http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/new/	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	you're golden.	[04:56]
MindChild	The average dude making porn in america is pulling in 19k USD a year. I can make that on welfare	[04:57]
*	UNOE227 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[04:57]
*	JZavala (~JZavala@99-177-149-74.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	MindChild exactly.	[04:58]
*	Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian)	[05:01]
*	draco49 is now known as draco49[afk]	[05:01]
Judge51	Anyone willing to sell 47 BTC for 250$ moneypak?	[05:02]
*	Joric_ (~joric@188.18.10.152) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:04]
*	Joric_ has quit (Changing host)	[05:04]
*	Joric_ (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:04]
*	Joric has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[05:04]
*	_99percent_ (~99percent@pool-74-110-17-30.bflony.east.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:05]
ircWALK	how do you see everything for sale currently?	[05:06]
MindChild	did you read the wiki?	[05:06]
*	__99percent__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[05:07]
Judge51	Anyone willing to sell 47 BTC for 250$ moneypak?	[05:07]
ircWALK	i have now sorry	[05:10]
*	Clipse has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)	[05:10]
*	Guest41079 (~coingenui@cpe-76-176-6-220.san.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:10]
*	djoot has quit (Quit: leaving)	[05:11]
*	LordCanti (~LordCanti@unaffiliated/lordcanti) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:12]
LordCanti	;;gpg eauth LordCanti	[05:12]
*	Guest41079 is now known as coingenuity	[05:15]
*	coingenuity has quit (Changing host)	[05:15]
*	coingenuity (~coingenui@unaffiliated/coingenuity) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:15]
*	Stewie__ (~klaypex@gateway/tor-sasl/stewiemcfluffy) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:16]
*	Joric (~joric@188.19.176.237) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:19]
*	Joric has quit (Changing host)	[05:19]
*	Joric (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:19]
*	Joric_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[05:20]
*	GlooBoy (48948d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.148.141.154) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:22]
GlooBoy	;;eauth glooboy	[05:23]
*	llanox (46839491@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.131.148.145) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:25]
MBS	hmm	[05:25]
MBS	anyone interested in buying an HTC flyer tablet for BTC?	[05:25]
llanox	how much?	[05:27]
*	eastender (~eastender@95.140.125.54) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:28]
MBS	hmm, would be like 35, but bleh, dont know if i want to bother, would just be reselling from http://slickdeals.net/f/4167286-16GB-HTC-Flyer-7-Android-2-3-Tablet-pre-owned-160-Free-Shipping? XD	[05:28]
MBS	looks like it would take a good while for it to come in	[05:29]
MBS	im a horrible salesperson	[05:29]
*	djoot (~djoot@c-0a83e555.015-83-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:30]
*	djoot has quit (Changing host)	[05:30]
*	djoot (~djoot@unaffiliated/djoot) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:30]
*	benjamindees disintermediates u	[05:30]
*	Joric_ (~joric@188.16.145.122) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:31]
*	Joric_ has quit (Changing host)	[05:31]
*	Joric_ (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:31]
*	Cablesaurus (~IceChat77@c-71-63-107-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:32]
*	Cablesaurus has quit (Changing host)	[05:32]
*	Cablesaurus (~IceChat77@unaffiliated/cablesaurus) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:32]
*	Joric has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)	[05:33]
llanox	Would anyone here like a year of Netflix for Cheap? Normally $96.. Unlimited streaming plan	[05:33]
*	__99percent__ (~99percent@pool-96-240-82-17.bflony.east.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:34]
*	Joric (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:35]
*	joejohn101 (b8586dba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.88.109.186) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:35]
rg	CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES	[05:35]
*	Joric_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[05:35]
rg	COME ON	[05:35]
Perlboy	llanox: unlimited netflix? that's U.S. tied though right?	[05:36]
*	_99percent_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[05:38]
mlinksva	;;rate sturles 1 smooth/quick usdpp to btc trade to newbie (me) as advertised	[05:40]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user sturles has been recorded.	[05:40]
*	Joric has quit ()	[05:41]
seco	guys someone here to sell a new otc-member PPUSD? Help him getting his first coin!	[05:42]
seco	i dont want to rape him with 20%+ i need to take to get from paypal away :p	[05:43]
*	Chaang_Noi_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[05:43]
*	reureu2k3_ (6cd0275e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.208.39.94) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:44]
*	Chaang-Noi (~J@118.172.241.41.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:44]
*	Ssateneth (ident@97-86-39-50.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com) has left #bitcoin-otc	[05:47]
*	benjamindees has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[05:48]
*	osmosis (~osmosis@c-50-137-167-129.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[05:50]
*	osmosis has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[05:50]
copumpkin	amazingrando: did you not offer a full 5k?	[05:54]
rg	copumpkin: are you celebrating	[05:56]
copumpkin	?	[05:56]
rg	ahem	[05:57]
rg	i believe i told everyone to celebrate good times	[05:57]
rg	come on	[05:57]
copumpkin	oh, yes	[05:57]
copumpkin	I am!	[05:57]
rg	copumpkin: do you have netflix/ever used it?	[05:57]
copumpkin	I don't have it, but I have used it in the past	[05:57]
*	GlooBoy_ has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[06:00]
*	reureu2k3_ has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[06:01]
mircea_popescu	seco : sturles and PaulZag usually do newbies.	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin : afaik, has the shakaru guy actually paid anything into his fund ?	[06:03]
copumpkin	about 20 coins I think. imsaguy would know	[06:03]
seco	ohh allright didnt think about PaulZag but its almost too late :P	[06:03]
rg	this llanox dude wants to sell me a netflix	[06:05]
rg	but i dont wanna spend any of mu money	[06:05]
*	RainbowDashh has quit (Quit: RainbowDashh)	[06:05]
rg	its almost time to update the bitvps nodes	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	lmao i like rg's philosophu.	[06:05]
rg	i need to stay awake	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	dude copumpkin, do you think red stilletos look great on girls ?	[06:05]
rg	copumpkin likes girls?	[06:05]
rg	wtf	[06:05]
copumpkin	I'm not a huge fan of high heels in general	[06:06]
rg	guess i been barking up the wrong tree	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	o wow srsly !? how come	[06:06]
rg	cause hes gay with me	[06:06]
rawrmage	ohright downtime :(	[06:06]
mircea_popescu	(rg : i was gonna take a page from your book, offer him to buy some for this girl i know since i dun wanna spend my own money)	[06:06]
rg	rawrmage: its worht it	[06:07]
rg	once these are updated we wont have another reboot for 120 days	[06:07]
rg	maybe more	[06:07]
*	emmanuelux has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[06:08]
PaulZag	what's up guys?	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	i srsly don't understand how someone could not like heels. they're uncomfortable, expensive, you can barely walk in them...	[06:08]
copumpkin	lol	[06:08]
rawrmage	rg: yea but my users are asleep	[06:08]
rawrmage	and now they're going to whine to me tomorrow	[06:09]
PaulZag	;;ident mlinksva	[06:09]
gribble	Nick 'mlinksva', with hostmask 'mlinksva!~ml@adsl-76-200-170-147.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user mlinksva, with GPG key id 0A4EABDE735F0F13, and key fingerprint 885326CD16CFB5EE5F24DA350A4EABDE735F0F13.	[06:09]
rawrmage	because their irssi's won't autoresart	[06:09]
PaulZag	;;getrating mlinksva	[06:09]
gribble	User mlinksva, created on Wed Apr 4 17:02:46 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mlinksva Currently authenticated from hostmask mlinksva!~ml@adsl-76-200-170-147.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net	[06:09]
rawrmage	restart*	[06:09]
rawrmage	and it'll be totally justified	[06:09]
PaulZag	seco: you talking about mlinksva?	[06:09]
*	spawn-504 (hellspawn@definitely.has.a.l337.name) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:10]
*	spawn-504 has quit (Excess Flood)	[06:10]
seco	BohemianHacks: but seems there are unawaited problems anway	[06:10]
rg	rawrmage: you shoulda told them	[06:10]
seco	eh take "," instead of ":"	[06:10]
rg	i emailed you	[06:10]
*	djoot has quit (Quit: leaving)	[06:10]
rg	and youve known about it	[06:10]
rg	before i sent the email	[06:10]
*	djoot (~djoot@ec2-176-34-206-245.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:10]
*	djoot has quit (Changing host)	[06:10]
*	djoot (~djoot@unaffiliated/djoot) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:10]
rawrmage	rg: yes well the email reminded me but they've all been asleep	[06:11]
*	djoot has quit (Client Quit)	[06:13]
PaulZag	okay well... nobody is talking to me so either I'm not voiced and we're (whatever it's called). or they're busy... I'm off to have lunch with my mum.	[06:13]
BohemianHacks	PaulZag: hi :D	[06:13]
*	djoot (~djoot@ec2-176-34-206-245.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:13]
*	djoot has quit (Changing host)	[06:13]
*	djoot (~djoot@unaffiliated/djoot) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:13]
PaulZag	oh! hi	[06:13]
rg	rawrmage	[06:14]
rg	why dont you just restart thier irssi	[06:14]
BohemianHacks	PM me	[06:14]
rawrmage	because it runs under their accounts	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	PaulZag i just said you deal with noobies.	[06:15]
PaulZag	somebody has to	[06:15]
mlinksva	PaulZag, I don't think seco was talking about me, as I haven't communicated with seco. I did buy my first btcs earlier today though	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	hey, don't get me wrong, it's a great thign.	[06:17]
seco	mlinksva: you are right; paypalworld for new members seems pretty familiar today :)	[06:17]
MindChild	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvF7YS0Y7jU	[06:19]
*	reureu2k3 (6cd0275e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.208.39.94) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:20]
PaulZag	;;rate BohemianHacks 1 sold BohemianHacks 1 BTC for PPUSD, quick and easy. Welcome to the Web of Trust.	[06:20]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BohemianHacks has been recorded.	[06:20]
BohemianHacks	:D	[06:20]
rawrmage	rg: also curse you now I can't sleep before 00:30 >.<	[06:20]
seco	PaulZag: you are a bless	[06:21]
reureu2k3	;;help buy	[06:22]
MindChild	he saved me a shitload of hassle	[06:22]
BohemianHacks	;;rate PaulZag 1 Sold me my first BTC. Like a boss.	[06:23]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PaulZag has been recorded.	[06:23]
*	RainbowDashh (~Rabbit678@74-124-87-153.dynamic.cdma.acsalaska.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:24]
PaulZag	help when I can...	[06:24]
mlinksva	I am interested in buying more (100) and assume I'll have to use non-PP for that	[06:25]
PaulZag	I have to go out for Lunch with Mama... but I'm looking to buy more BTC with PPUSD if anyone needs liquidity fast	[06:25]
gmaxwell	mlinksva: Hi!	[06:26]
mlinksva	gmaxwell, hi	[06:26]
mlinksva	:)	[06:26]
PaulZag	I'm probably out of that sort of volume until next week... Most of my cash is in transit right now	[06:26]
*	eastender has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[06:26]
PaulZag	so my exchange balances are low	[06:26]
mlinksva	I see some listings say "Wells Fargo cash branch deposit" (or other bank). What does this mean? Seller has an account at bank and can walk in and say to deposit in X account?	[06:27]
PaulZag	yep mlinksva	[06:27]
PaulZag	exactly	[06:27]
mircea_popescu	also means person is a little more trustworthy imo.	[06:27]
BohemianHacks	ooo	[06:28]
BohemianHacks	cash deposit	[06:28]
mlinksva	mircea_popescu, you mean the buyer?	[06:28]
BohemianHacks	I like that idea	[06:28]
PaulZag	if you have a wells fargo branch close, I'll sell you bitcoins if you depositt the funds into my account	[06:28]
mircea_popescu	i mean whoever is willing to go to a bank.	[06:28]
PaulZag	almost as anonymous as it can get	[06:28]
BohemianHacks	I am going to start putting aside a certain ammount of each paycheck to be convereted to BTC	[06:28]
PaulZag	banks do have video	[06:28]
BohemianHacks	I didn't hide my wallet on a truecrypted flash drive for nothing	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	BohemianHacks : prolly the smartest thing anyone can do right now for their financial future.	[06:29]
mlinksva	for better or worse, lots of WF branches close	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	doesn't have to be much, even 20 bux counts, but it has to be regular. EVERY month.	[06:29]
PaulZag	so it's not like buying BTC in a Walmart carpark	[06:29]
mlinksva	PaulZag, i want to buy from you that way if you're willing/when you have the btc	[06:29]
PaulZag	I get btc all the time... are banks closed on Friday in the USA?	[06:30]
BohemianHacks	I would like to find someone willing to plan that out at some point. Its not going to be a lot but it would be nice if every 2 weeks i could just deposit the money somewhere and get the BTC	[06:30]
gmaxwell	FWIW, mlinksva is a fairly well known person. I'll personally secure trades people make with him against reversal on his part.	[06:30]
PaulZag	oh? Cool gmaxwell	[06:30]
*	chetty (~chetty@78.96.92.89) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:31]
gmaxwell	(heh, within reason of course, lest he see that and decide to buy /all the bitcoins/ via paypal ;) )	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	that was... vague.	[06:33]
mambahome	hey Paul whats your current rate for pp to btc exchange?	[06:33]
PaulZag	okay here's how I operate... I have no minimum deposit, I verify the deposit and send you coins at a prearranged MtGox +% (about 4.5%) OR if you want a fixed exchange rate it's more expensive (as I have to hedge and trust). for tiny amounts <$20 I may need to ask a bit more	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	“Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act” or “MAP-21″ includes a provision that would allow for the “revocation or denial” of a passport for anyone with “certain unpaid taxes” or “tax delinquencies”.	[06:33]
PaulZag	I'm normally good with paypal with that recommendation. but the fees are a bitch. if mlinksva wants to deposit, there are lower fees for all	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	the us is ever improving, srsly.	[06:33]
*	osmosis (~osmosis@c-50-137-167-129.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:34]
PaulZag	mambahome: it depends... Lowest rates are people with an established LinkedIn account who friend me...	[06:35]
Perlboy	i'm your friend! :)	[06:35]
Perlboy	but i'm also the guy that cleaned you out of a few coins last night :P	[06:35]
*	wizzo has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)	[06:35]
mlinksva	thanks for the recommendation gmaxwell. i won't attempt to imitate the hunt bros.	[06:35]
*	wizzo (~wizzo@212.117.165.93) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:35]
PaulZag	but as a rule of thumb, newbies mtgox ask +10% for up to 5btc. comfy friends Mtgox ask+5% as it costs me up to 3% to get funds into gox	[06:36]
*	wizzo has quit (Changing host)	[06:36]
*	wizzo (~wizzo@unaffiliated/wizzomafizzo) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:36]
mambahome	PaulZag: I don't have a LinkedIn account :/ I remember you said your rates go down as you know people?	[06:36]
*	newuser (3cf13d62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.241.61.98) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:36]
PaulZag	see "comfy friends"	[06:36]
PaulZag	I've actually accepted deposits and kicked the cash to MtGox with one of my deposits for a good friend.	[06:37]
PaulZag	I made $0.00	[06:37]
PaulZag	But most of you don't qualify for that :)	[06:37]
BTC_Bear	;;ident mlinksva	[06:38]
gribble	Nick 'mlinksva', with hostmask 'mlinksva!~ml@adsl-76-200-170-147.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user mlinksva, with GPG key id 0A4EABDE735F0F13, and key fingerprint 885326CD16CFB5EE5F24DA350A4EABDE735F0F13.	[06:38]
PaulZag	the guy I did that for early on said to me "Here's $600" get me bitcoins whenever and at whatever rate you can	[06:38]
BTC_Bear	;;ident gmaxwell	[06:38]
gribble	Nick 'gmaxwell', with hostmask 'gmaxwell!~greg@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001', is not identified.	[06:38]
mambahome	haha thats understandable. do you have a hold time between transactions?	[06:38]
PaulZag	anyway... my mothers handbag dog awaits... stupid Chiuwawa	[06:39]
*	amazingrando has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[06:39]
PaulZag	I am going to give my kids a miserable time when I'm old... surely that's how we're supposed to get even with the shit they did as kids	[06:40]
PaulZag	back in 2 hours	[06:40]
nanotube	PaulZag: an accidetal encounter with a storm drain, and problem solved. :)	[06:40]
nanotube	mlinksva: if gmaxwell says he'll guarantee your payment against chargeback, i'll sell you some btc at gox+1, using whatever payment method you prefer.	[06:41]
mambahome	gox+1 :O	[06:41]
BTC_Bear	gmaxwell: wasn't authed, but I assume it was him.	[06:41]
*	dwon (~dwon@2607:f2c0:a000:c0:217:31ff:fe53:f7c7) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:42]
mlinksva	nanotube, that's a little steep, equivalent to gox+~20% right?	[06:42]
*	hngryhngryhippo (~hngryhngr@pool-71-191-248-16.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:43]
gmaxwell	;;ident gmaxwell	[06:43]
gribble	Nick 'gmaxwell', with hostmask 'gmaxwell!~greg@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001', is identified as user gmaxwell, with GPG key id AC859362B0413BFA, and key fingerprint DE47BC9E6D2DA6B02DC610B1AC859362B0413BFA.	[06:43]
nanotube	mlinksva: i mean, gox plus 1%, not +1 usd :) sorry.	[06:43]
*	Judge51 has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[06:44]
nanotube	though if you're willing to pay +1 usd, i'll take it. :)	[06:44]
mircea_popescu	bah, gox, y u no rally!	[06:44]
mlinksva	heh, i was politely refusing :)	[06:44]
nanotube	y u want rally, mircea_popescu ? you're short a bunch of calls :)	[06:44]
nanotube	:)	[06:44]
nanotube	;;ident mlinksva	[06:44]
gribble	Nick 'mlinksva', with hostmask 'mlinksva!~ml@adsl-76-200-170-147.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user mlinksva, with GPG key id 0A4EABDE735F0F13, and key fingerprint 885326CD16CFB5EE5F24DA350A4EABDE735F0F13.	[06:44]
mircea_popescu	nanotube : the way i see it if it rallies to 6.0 it gets pretty sweet :D	[06:45]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: hehe, given your other positions eh? :)	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	:p	[06:45]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: u long	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	let's not get ahead of ourselves, +20% in a month is decent.	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	Blitzboom : its complicated.	[06:45]
Blitzboom	u short	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	im anything ppl want me to be	[06:46]
Blitzboom	u long and short	[06:46]
mircea_popescu	the ultimate btcslut, honestly.	[06:46]
*	joejohn101 has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[06:46]
nanotube	so yea anyway, how many btc are you looking for mlinksva	[06:46]
mlinksva	nanotube, 100	[06:47]
nanotube	what pmt method?	[06:47]
mambahome	nanotube: what rate is that payment method for?	[06:47]
mlinksva	payal and local bank deposit (eg wells fargo) are the only ones i can easily do	[06:47]
*	toffoo (~tof@189.60.34.81) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:47]
nanotube	mambahome: with gmaxwell's guarantee, any :)	[06:47]
mambahome	ahh I see :P there are stipulations	[06:48]
*	speed_racer8 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[06:49]
nanotube	mambahome: hehe indeed.	[06:50]
*	RainbowDashh has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[06:51]
*	Joric (~joric@188.19.178.19) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:52]
*	Joric has quit (Changing host)	[06:53]
*	Joric (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:53]
*	RainbowDashh (~Rabbit678@55-3-178-69.static.gci.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:55]
llanox	Does anyone want a year of netflix for cheap?	[06:56]
*	RainbowDashh is now known as Fluttashy	[06:56]
*	Fluttashy is now known as RainbowDashh	[06:57]
splatster	llanox: Try the order book :)	[06:58]
splatster	;;buy	[06:58]
gribble	(buy [--long] [at\|@] []) -- Logs a buy order for units of , at a price of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask\|bid\|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include (1 more message)	[06:58]
splatster	or ,,sell	[06:58]
gribble	(sell [at\|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask\|bid\|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include expression (1 more message)	[06:58]
llanox	I need about 2 bitcoins. What do you guys want from it?	[06:59]
llanox	*for	[06:59]
*	prime (181468c5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.20.104.197) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[06:59]
prime	Hiya folks!	[06:59]
splatster	Hi there, prime!	[06:59]
rawrmage	hi	[06:59]
*	amazingrando (~amazingra@63.64.64.178) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:00]
prime	So, ive been using bitcoin for a little over a year and just now found about about this IRC	[07:00]
*	swiley_ (~swileyiph@12.sub-75-192-208.myvzw.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:00]
BohemianHacks	did you see #bitcoin?	[07:01]
BohemianHacks	#bitcoin	[07:01]
splatster	prime: Oh, then I would suggest you check out the bitcoin-otc registration ,,guide.	[07:01]
gribble	Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc	[07:01]
prime	Ok, thanks for the info	[07:02]
splatster	Don't worry, we won't bite :) Most everyone in here is friendly and we all trade.	[07:02]
nanotube	;;rate mlinksva 2	[07:03]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mlinksva has been recorded.	[07:03]
prime	Is there general discussion here? Say i wanted to talk about GLBSE?	[07:03]
nanotube	prime: yes, as long as it's civil. see channel guidelines in topic :)	[07:03]
prime	Nice, what is the general consensus on GLBSE?	[07:04]
splatster	There isn't.	[07:04]
BohemianHacks	prime: awesome! just googled it	[07:05]
splatster	I'm the CIO and cofounder of a GLBSE asset (S²CM). I like GLBSE when it works, hate it when it doesn't, and have no other alternative.	[07:05]
BohemianHacks	I am totally going to incorporate my business but only for bitcoins	[07:05]
nanotube	prime: well... it's been in operation for a while, and so far has been trustworthy.	[07:05]
nanotube	prime: it's up to you to do the research on the individual issues though.	[07:05]
BohemianHacks	Whats the legal side of using it? Do i need to be incorporated or can i still be a sole proprietorship?	[07:06]
splatster	prime: I would suggest looking at S²CM (GLBSE ticker "SS").	[07:06]
splatster	BohemianHacks: No, you don't need to be incorporated.	[07:06]
BohemianHacks	Fuck yeah	[07:06]
BTC_Bear	lol	[07:06]
BohemianHacks	I know what im doing tomorrow	[07:06]
splatster	Oh, BTW BTC_Bear, that problem last night resolved itself :)	[07:07]
mlinksva	;;rate nanotube 2 helpful, easy, quick	[07:07]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user nanotube has been recorded.	[07:07]
BohemianHacks	I Feel like im finding this cool side of things that i wish existed.	[07:07]
BTC_Bear	splatster: k	[07:07]
prime	splater i was going to buy some shares but nothing is verified. turned me off	[07:07]
splatster	prime: If you saw what was necessary for verification, you would be put off too.	[07:08]
splatster	Both smickles and I are otc rated and we have decent reps.	[07:08]
BohemianHacks	For those that don't know from the other channel, I own bohemian hacks a 3d printing company that I started at the beginning of the year. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bohemian-Hacks/265060563567659	[07:08]
BohemianHacks	Still in our infancy but its going well so far	[07:08]
*	Txyru has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[07:08]
splatster	Nefario wants scans of social security cards and other things that are highly personal.	[07:08]
coingenuity	BohemianHacks: what kind of stuff can you print?	[07:09]
*	Txyru (~Txyru@unaffiliated/txyru) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:09]
prime	bohemiamhacks i also have a 3d printing company......	[07:09]
mambahome	100 btc is only worth a rating of 2? :o	[07:09]
BohemianHacks	Anything made of plastic(either ABS or PLA) that would fit in a ~7.5 cube	[07:09]
prime	selling mendelmax	[07:09]
BohemianHacks	I also accept bitcoins!	[07:09]
mlinksva	;;rate gmaxwell 2 facilitated trade w/nanotube	[07:10]
prime	I sold my first printer via bitcoin	[07:10]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user gmaxwell has been recorded.	[07:10]
BohemianHacks	prime are you in #reprap	[07:10]
coingenuity	interesting BohemianHacks	[07:10]
coingenuity	what kind of colors/materials do you print with?	[07:10]
prime	no, I come every once in a while	[07:10]
prime	lots of people looking for venture capital in that irc	[07:10]
coingenuity	i.e. could you print two-tone with ABS?	[07:11]
splatster	prime: If you have any interest in S²CM, you can join #S2CM. (Also, our channel is bigger than #GLBSE, which has like 5 people in it)	[07:11]
BTC_Bear	mlinksva: you actually have credit via gmax. Plenty of people will trade with you. :) His LOC has been dually noted. :)	[07:11]
BohemianHacks	PLA in Orange, Green, Black, White, Natural(kind of clear looking), Yellow, Translucent Blue(glows under a black light), and Silver	[07:11]
BohemianHacks	prime, I am self built so very small	[07:12]
BohemianHacks	I dont really care for banks or venture capitalists.	[07:12]
nanotube	;;rate gmaxwell 6 generally trustworthy person, bitcoin dev.	[07:12]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 6 for user gmaxwell has been recorded.	[07:12]
prime	It helps when you need to scale up your operation quickly. I went from only needing one printer to needing 5	[07:13]
BohemianHacks	coingenuity: I will be upgrading to do ABS soon and I can do 2-tone by the layer	[07:13]
prime	very quickly	[07:13]
BohemianHacks	You can look at our prints on the page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bohemian-Hacks/265060563567659	[07:13]
coingenuity	cool :)	[07:13]
nanotube	BohemianHacks: nice :)	[07:13]
coingenuity	i would be intereste3d if the price is right	[07:13]
BohemianHacks	prime, its looking like that may happen with me too	[07:13]
coingenuity	interested*	[07:13]
BohemianHacks	I am much lower than shapeways	[07:14]
coingenuity	say, for....1k coin-containers, two tone ABS archival grade, what would the price point look like per-u?	[07:14]
*	novusordo has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[07:14]
prime	Im preparing to build a site for selling printers for btc	[07:14]
seco	lol mircea any other reasons for your -1 to gmaxwell ? :D	[07:14]
rg	;;rate gmaxwell -1 channel nazi without cause	[07:15]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user gmaxwell has been recorded.	[07:15]
BohemianHacks	coingenuity, what size are we talking roughly?	[07:15]
seco	like some evidence he added backdoors or such ;)	[07:15]
*	Samoi has quit (Quit: cya)	[07:15]
coingenuity	figure ~2in diameter	[07:15]
*	Phoebus has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)	[07:15]
*	Samoi (~Salmon-fr@cl-164.wlg-01.nz.sixxs.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:15]
*	Samoi has quit (Changing host)	[07:15]
*	Samoi (~Salmon-fr@unaffiliated/root-ninja/x-7047552) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:15]
rg	btw	[07:15]
prime	Must be nice being so close to new image plastics	[07:16]
rg	id like to remind everyone that you can get 50% off a virtual private server from BitVPS this month	[07:16]
*	ljrbot has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[07:16]
gmaxwell	rg: oh come on. That kinda usage makes the system less useful generally. Yes, I'm libel to kickban people who break the channel rules— this doesn't tell you too much else.	[07:16]
rg	using coupon code BTALK	[07:16]
*	redditcoin has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[07:16]
prime	What kind of dividends would one expect with SS stock?	[07:17]
rg	in care youre wondering, it stands for 'bitch, them all lithuanian kualas'	[07:17]
*	redditcoin (~rddtcn@unaffiliated/mcorlett/bot/redditcoin) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:17]
rg	dont invest in SS	[07:17]
rg	invest in BitVPS	[07:17]
*	gribble gives voice to redditcoin	[07:17]
prime	Why should i give you my money?	[07:17]
splatster	rg: Whoa!	[07:17]
rg	prime: cause we're better	[07:17]
prime	I only care about money	[07:17]
rg	i know all the secrets behind SS	[07:18]
splatster	rg: State your MPR, sir!	[07:18]
rg	but im not gonna say anything	[07:18]
rg	if youll excuse me	[07:18]
rg	i have to upgrade all the bitvps nodes	[07:18]
gmaxwell	prime: BipVPS's operators engage in 100% more retaliatory OTC rating than the competition. ;)	[07:18]
rawrmage	splatster: i know an irc user named MPR	[07:18]
*	reeses has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[07:18]
BTC_Bear	gmaxwell: he wasn't signed in.	[07:18]
rawrmage	BTC_Bear: yes he was	[07:19]
BTC_Bear	oh, it didn't come across -ratings	[07:19]
*	Phoebus (~Phoebus@pdpc/supporter/active/phoebus) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:19]
splatster	rg: You don't know anything more than the entire public knows. There are very few people who have seen more than what everyone else has. (lenders, a pair of higher ups, and smickles and I)	[07:19]
gmaxwell	Perhaps WOT needs meta ratings, where you rate specific edges in the graph. ;)	[07:19]
*	swiley_ has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi)	[07:19]
rg	s5	[07:19]
rawrmage	BTC_Bear: yea it did o.O	[07:19]
*	Hasbro has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[07:19]
rg	i know where the money comes from	[07:19]
rawrmage	00:14 <+gribble> New rating \| rg > -1 > gmaxwell \| channel nazi without cause	[07:19]
BTC_Bear	hmm...	[07:19]
rg	i know how you get it	[07:19]
prime	Are you unable to disclose the average divended for an SS stock +splaster ?	[07:20]
BTC_Bear	rawrmage: on freenode?	[07:20]
rawrmage	BTC_Bear: yea...	[07:20]
BTC_Bear	hmm... I'll cycle	[07:21]
splatster	prime: We've only recently started, but the -expected- rate is 10-15% on invested funds.	[07:21]
rawrmage	BTC_Bear: are you sctolled down all the way?	[07:21]
midnightmagic	wait there's a -ratings channel?	[07:21]
*	Hasbro (~Hasbro@pool-108-6-170-105.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:21]
splatster	rg: I sooo invite you to divulge this "information"	[07:21]
BTC_Bear	yea, I was...	[07:22]
*	reeses (~reeses@li225-59.members.linode.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:22]
prime	If thats Legit, im going to regret not buying any. My skeptical brain says to me not to trust anyone promising more than 5% back from investment. I know with enough time, i can overcome this.	[07:22]
midnightmagic	BTC_Bear: what's the ratings channel name?	[07:22]
BTC_Bear	#bitcoin-otc-ratings	[07:22]
*	xtor_ (~extor@adsl-69-211-51-152.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:22]
nanotube	oh, it didn't come across -ratings yes it did. you joined after it came through.	[07:23]
nanotube	New rating \| rg > -1 > gmaxwell \| channel nazi without cause	[07:23]
nanotube	* BTC_Bear (~BTC_Bear@unaffiliated/btc-bear/x-5233302) has joined #bitcoin-otc-ratings	[07:23]
BTC_Bear	I cycled	[07:23]
midnightmagic	ah thanks	[07:23]
gmaxwell	prime: well, think about the worst case given the information they make available ... I wouldn't and don't participate in these mysterious high return things as a result.	[07:23]
*	ljrbot (~supybot-l@2001:470:88ff:2e::1) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:23]
nanotube	BTC_Bear: you simply weren't on chan at the time. i didn't see you part. your client must have been lying to you :)	[07:23]
*	yossarian_ (~john@g231249032.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:23]
BTC_Bear	k	[07:24]
rg	splatster is talking down to me	[07:24]
rawrmage	splatster: hey! i just realized!	[07:24]
BTC_Bear	completely possible, thnx	[07:24]
nanotube	midnightmagic: yes it's a great channel. everyone should be there because it's cool ;)	[07:24]
rawrmage	splatster: i can read everything you say in Pinkie Pie's voice, and it totally works!!	[07:24]
midnightmagic	well! in that case!	[07:25]
*	extor has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[07:25]
rg	;;getrating splatster	[07:25]
gribble	User splatster, created on Fri Jan 13 22:39:48 2012. Cumulative rating 41, from 26 total ratings. Received ratings: 26 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 27 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=splatster Currently authenticated from hostmask splatster!~splatster@unaffiliated/splatster	[07:25]
splatster	Apparently me using punctuation is talking down to people :/	[07:26]
rawrmage	omg	[07:26]
rawrmage	even that works	[07:26]
gmaxwell	rawrmage: example audio?	[07:27]
rawrmage	gmaxwell: it's in my head, sorry :(	[07:27]
rg	good evening nanotube	[07:28]
rg	no one responded to neofutur's bitcointalk post	[07:28]
rg	i addeda 5 BTC bounty to it too :<	[07:28]
nanotube	what's the post?	[07:28]
gmaxwell	rawrmage: I just don't know what "pinkiepie" sounds like, though I see there are many things on youtube.	[07:28]
nanotube	and howdy rg :)	[07:28]
rawrmage	oh	[07:29]
*	localhost has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[07:29]
rg	nanotube: neofutur and i are both looking for a method to store a blockchain in one main location	[07:29]
rg	for example, for bitvps customers, loads of people run bitcoinds	[07:29]
rg	which means each person syncs, wastes disk space	[07:29]
nanotube	rg: libcoin ?	[07:29]
rg	nanotube: we want bitcoind	[07:29]
rg	the official source	[07:29]
rg	not some library function	[07:30]
prime	its a java library right?	[07:30]
rg	i was contemplating just removing the writing functions from the bitcoind	[07:30]
rawrmage	gmaxwell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxHgexVmHXE	[07:30]
rg	and having them share over a NFS/sshfs	[07:30]
gmaxwell	rg: are you using a filesystem with COW? e.g. btrfs or zfs? if so block001.dat can be substantially shared if you seed them all from a common copy.	[07:30]
nanotube	prime: iirc libcoin is in cpp... but you can check out the discussion of it on the dev mailing list.	[07:30]
rg	that way theyll stay synched and not try to write to it	[07:30]
rg	since the share will be r/o	[07:30]
nanotube	rg: well that'd probably involve modifying bitcoind code anyway.... so it won't be official :)	[07:30]
rg	yeah	[07:31]
rg	i explained poorly	[07:31]
gmaxwell	rg: that would not be easy _at all_	[07:31]
rg	we just want the basic bitcoind patched	[07:31]
rg	to do what we want	[07:31]
rg	not libcoin	[07:31]
gmaxwell	it's ~impossible to make bdb read only.	[07:31]
gmaxwell	(well read many write one)	[07:31]
*	easystevey has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[07:32]
prime	A friend told me about the chrome mtgox trader, what is the deal with that thing?	[07:32]
gmaxwell	a more realistic thing to do there is to seperate the wallet and the blockchain functionality.. and run one blockchain server. Though thats also a lot of work (but it's work we want upstream)	[07:32]
*	chakl (~chakl@ool-4572b928.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:33]
*	easystevey (60fa6de8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.250.109.232) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:34]
midnightmagic	hey what's the name of that other market [Tycho] was going to use as a base for his asics rather than the glbse?	[07:34]
BTC_Bear	icbit	[07:34]
BTC_Bear	oh, nvm	[07:34]
*	ianthius has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[07:35]
MBS	anyone know any decent android phones that are ~$200	[07:35]
coingenuity	gsII with a 2yr	[07:35]
MBS	or that will give me a HTX One X if i pleasure them	[07:35]
MBS	with no contract	[07:35]
coingenuity	htc g2	[07:35]
MBS	oh and i have AT&T	[07:36]
prime	I will sell a Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant) for 61 BTC	[07:36]
coingenuity	samsung galaxy s	[07:36]
*	paulo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[07:36]
nanotube	gmaxwell: well isn't libcoin basically implementing just that?	[07:36]
coingenuity	nice, prime	[07:36]
prime	OBO	[07:36]
nanotube	rg: iow, 5btc is not nearly enough for the work you want :)	[07:36]
*	paulo_ (~foo@112.204.81.23) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:37]
gmaxwell	nanotube: Not unless I missed something recent— libcoin is just an extensive refactor of the reference code but it's all internal. And importantly, it removed a bunch of essential locking. :(	[07:38]
*	DeLorean719 (DeLorean71@c-71-195-216-104.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:38]
*	mlinksva has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[07:38]
*	gribble gives voice to DeLorean719	[07:38]
nanotube	gmaxwell: hm ic. i didn't really look too deeply into where it's at. just saw some posts about it on the ml.	[07:40]
gmaxwell	(it's also a single monolithic code drop, so merging it would be .. well probably about as much work as redoing it, especially considering that it needs all of its locking fixed :( )	[07:40]
gmaxwell	nanotube: he did some nice things that the core bitcoin team doesn't care about, e.g. making it easier to support the altchains by putting in all the variations of the code and allowing switching with single point configuration.	[07:41]
llanox	Does anyone like Netflix here?	[07:41]
gmaxwell	But ... really, making altchains easier is an anti-feature in my book. :) but I can see why it would be pretty useful to some people.	[07:41]
*	JZavala has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[07:41]
prime	So, i need to buy a tablet soon for work, anyone willing to sell one through bitcoinharbor or similar?	[07:41]
rg	nanotube: neofutur had btc up to do it too	[07:42]
rawrmage	andrew12: :o :D	[07:43]
nanotube	gmaxwell: hehe yea ++ on the alt chains there. :)	[07:43]
*	gribble gives voice to rawrmage	[07:44]
*	hoops7k (ae33ea83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.51.234.131) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:46]
splatster	I honestly wonder if any of the alt chains were created in the interest of making improvements to bitcoin, or just to make money.	[07:47]
*	hoops7k has quit (Client Quit)	[07:47]
gmaxwell	I personally thing LQC was the most awesome "for speculation!"	[07:47]
gmaxwell	even dropped the pretext of being a usable unit of exchange.	[07:48]
gmaxwell	(and totally obviously broke the distributed algorithim for its 'innovation')	[07:48]
MBS	bleh gay	[07:48]
neofutur	splatster: or just to make alternatives	[07:48]
MBS	the one x AT&T will have a dual core snapdragon instead of a quad core tegra	[07:48]
rawrmage	the internet is for speculayion	[07:48]
MBS	will have LTE though	[07:48]
neofutur	but imho namecoin is the only serious long lasting fork	[07:48]
gmaxwell	sadly, namecoin is dying...	[07:49]
splatster	neofutur: +9999	[07:49]
gmaxwell	and will probably die completely once a good replacement exists.	[07:49]
neofutur	namecoin is not dying	[07:49]
*	Tril (~tril@unaffiliated/tril) has left #bitcoin-otc	[07:49]
BTC_Bear	Who's developing anything on the .bit sites?	[07:50]
gmaxwell	er.. have you been looking at whats been going on in the blockchain? It got spammed to hell and no one noticed for a long time, and then when people did vinced was nowhere to be found and doublec had to fix it.	[07:50]
nanotube	oh? what kinda spam? i thought you had to pay for spam in namecoin?	[07:50]
neofutur	BTC_Bear: contribute ;)	[07:51]
neofutur	at least i m making a historical data graphs website for namecoin	[07:51]
gmaxwell	and the price of names as fallen too far too fast.. so it's like 10k names for bitcoin, so spammerish people have registered the dictionary and then some now.. so its becoming hard to find good names, everything is just uselessly parking forsale stuff. :(	[07:51]
gmaxwell	er 10k names for a bitcoin.	[07:51]
neofutur	its true nmc need contributions, but its here to last	[07:51]
gmaxwell	And there is still no prospect of a secure litemode resolver for namecoin. :(	[07:52]
gmaxwell	Oh sorry, looks more like 22k names for 1BTC.	[07:52]
*	splatster goes to register the spanish dictionary in .bit domains with 1 BTC.	[07:53]
*	hngryhngryhippo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[07:54]
*	Graet gives 1000 monkeys typewriters and registers everything they come up with :P	[07:54]
rawrmage	lol	[07:54]
gmaxwell	So even if someone designs a new chain that solves the technical issues, they wouldn't bother migrating over the .bit names because they're mostly spam.	[07:55]
splatster	Graet: Reminds me of that podcast called the infinite monkey cage (the idea behind the name takes a bit of thought)	[07:55]
*	draco49[afk] is now known as draco49	[07:57]
Graet	i was thinking of the old thoery about enough monkeys with typewriters and producing the works nof shakespeare or something	[07:57]
draco49	;;view 7511	[07:57]
gribble	#7511 Wed Apr 4 15:50:13 2012 draco49 BUY 19.0 BTC @ 5.2632 MoneyPak (None)	[07:57]
*	Keefe (~keefe@pool-96-229-232-234.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:58]
*	neofutur selling services for bitcoin: web, linux, SEO, audit and more, check http://gw.gd/bcservices	[07:59]
*	Keefe is now known as Guest3988	[07:59]
*	Guest3988 has quit (Changing host)	[07:59]
*	Guest3988 (~keefe@unaffiliated/keefe) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[07:59]
*	ChanServ gives voice to Guest3988	[07:59]
*	Guest3988 is now known as Keefe	[07:59]
*	llanox has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[07:59]
midnightmagic	gmaxwell: yeah and douchebags are in there registering b/name c/name d/name etc.. as though they think people will even pay attention to them. lol	[07:59]
splatster	Graet: Ya, that's what the title is based off of. The idea is that even in an infinite monkey cage with infinite monkeys, they couldn't write Shakespeare.	[07:59]
*	danielboston26 (~anonymous@unaffiliated/danielboston26) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:00]
danielboston26	hello	[08:00]
rawrmage	hi	[08:01]
danielboston26	so this is where people trade bitcoins?	[08:01]
BTC_Bear	hmm.. I would think in an ∞ monkey cage with ∞ monkeys typing, shakespeare would be done instantly.	[08:01]
draco49	in theory	[08:01]
danielboston26	im new to the whole bitcoin thing	[08:02]
rawrmage	IRC is a moneky cage with monkeys typing already	[08:02]
midnightmagic	gmaxwell: the more choices we give people (re: your altchains comment) the more innovation is technically possible. altchains like your sun-assisted timekeeper for example.	[08:02]
Blitzboom	wow, namecoins have dropped hugely in value	[08:02]
rawrmage	and this isn't any shakespeare	[08:02]
midnightmagic	rawrmage: To be, or not to be!	[08:02]
*	arij has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)	[08:02]
Blitzboom	i remember it was 0.03	[08:02]
rawrmage	that is the ahshjskakanakkak luuuul	[08:02]
Blitzboom	now it’s 0.004 or 0.005	[08:02]
gmaxwell	midnightmagic: except it mostly hasn't panned out that way. NMC gaves us merged mining— which justifies its existance (and some other altchains too).. but the level of innovation in altchains has been _very_ low in general.	[08:03]
*	Tril (~tril@unaffiliated/tril) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:03]
Blitzboom	is there a namecoin chart now?	[08:03]
BTC_Bear	How many nmc names can be produced? theoretically?	[08:04]
gmaxwell	midnightmagic: I mean, I couldn't and wouldn't deny them their existance— but that fact doesn't confuse me into thinking that they're a good thing in practice.	[08:04]
draco49	Buying BTC for $100 MoneyPak... me love you long time	[08:04]
midnightmagic	gmaxwell: maybe, but why make decisions now that make it harder in future? potential motility dictates that increasing choice now or at least building flexibility now, pays off later when bitcoin is adopted by millions, or a country.	[08:05]
*	danielboston26 (~anonymous@unaffiliated/danielboston26) has left #bitcoin-otc	[08:05]
gmaxwell	midnightmagic: make harder? huh?	[08:06]
*	dwon has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[08:06]
gmaxwell	midnightmagic: no— I don't think it should be made harder, but I also have zero interest in a intrusive restructure which pulls in a lot of dead code, in order to make it braindead simple to spin up infinite numbers of totally useless alts.	[08:06]
midnightmagic	"really, making altchains easier is an anti-feature in my book."	[08:07]
gmaxwell	If you're not willing to do the ~1hr work it takes to learn what you need to do to the bitcoin codebase and do it... you're really not likely to innovate usefully.	[08:07]
midnightmagic	ah, i see.	[08:07]
midnightmagic	yeah i would agree with that statement.	[08:07]
midnightmagic	er.. i do agree with that statement.	[08:08]
gmaxwell	(and a lot of the altchains totally screwed up the distributed algorithim— because they didn't really understand it. and making it easier will just cause more of that)	[08:08]
*	DeLorean719 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[08:10]
rg	whew	[08:11]
midnightmagic	well that's okay. failures are just proofs anyway	[08:11]
rg	my heart is beating	[08:11]
rg	i just updated our VM software and an error happened	[08:11]
rg	but i stayed cool and fixed it	[08:11]
rg	but then it was racing again cause i had to do a reboot	[08:11]
*	newuser has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[08:12]
rg	64 bytes from cal1.vm.bitvps.com (50.115.43.18): icmp_req=51 ttl=51 time=98.8 ms	[08:12]
rg	^^ sigh of relief	[08:12]
draco49	;;ident GlooBoy	[08:12]
gribble	Nick 'GlooBoy', with hostmask 'GlooBoy!48948d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.148.141.154', is identified as user GlooBoy, with GPG key id A23D510BD6E310D3, and key fingerprint F57F9D56107727EE2A3E63C2A23D510BD6E310D3.	[08:12]
draco49	;;getrating GlooBoy	[08:12]
gribble	User GlooBoy, created on Sun Feb 19 20:37:05 2012. Cumulative rating 9, from 7 total ratings. Received ratings: 7 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 7 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=GlooBoy Currently authenticated from hostmask GlooBoy!48948d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.148.141.154	[08:12]
nanotube	rg: good work :)	[08:13]
rg	nanotube: yep and i found a bug i get to report	[08:13]
rg	so	[08:13]
*	rg sitting on his high horse	[08:13]
nanotube	hehe	[08:13]
*	RainbowDashh has quit (Quit: RainbowDashh)	[08:14]
*	Joric_ (~joric@188.19.179.149) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:14]
*	Joric_ has quit (Changing host)	[08:14]
*	Joric_ (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:14]
midnightmagic	what's the bug?	[08:14]
*	BohemianHacks has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[08:15]
rg	midnightmagic:	[08:16]
*	Joric has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)	[08:16]
rg	Starting pve cluster filesystem : pve-cluster[main] crit: Unable to get local IP address	[08:16]
rg	(warning).	[08:16]
rg	invoke-rc.d: initscript pve-cluster, action "start" failed.	[08:16]
rg	dpkg: error processing pve-cluster (--configure):	[08:16]
rg	so it needs a check during initialization to make sure /etc/hosts is legit	[08:17]
rg	or it all fails	[08:17]
midnightmagic	geh, /etc/hosts is how it retrieves local IP?	[08:18]
*	BohemianHacks (~chatzilla@108-95-126-135.lightspeed.mssnks.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:18]
rg	no	[08:19]
rg	thats how the system knows its local hostname	[08:19]
rg	the box is named 'cal1' but it only had cal1.vm.bitvps.com /etc/hosts	[08:20]
midnightmagic	what does this mean then: "Unable to get local IP address"?	[08:20]
*	fridgee6 (~asdf@129-97-247-123.uwaterloo.ca) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:20]
*	RainbowDashh (~Rabbit678@55-3-178-69.static.gci.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:21]
rg	shrug	[08:21]
rg	i dont have the src	[08:21]
rg	ok time to do dallas	[08:22]
rg	cross your fingers	[08:22]
*	rawrmage does so	[08:23]
GlooBoy	;;calc 100 / [ticker --ask] * .92	[08:24]
gribble	18.8009490392	[08:24]
rawrmage	rg: i heer the bells a-ringing for me	[08:25]
*	phungus has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[08:25]
rg	goo	[08:26]
rg	d	[08:26]
*	ageis has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[08:26]
LordCanti	;;ticker	[08:27]
gribble	Best bid: 4.88502, Best ask: 4.89317, Bid-ask spread: 0.00815, Last trade: 4.89317, 24 hour volume: 48116, 24 hour low: 4.885, 24 hour high: 4.97	[08:27]
*	ponymage has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[08:28]
rg	gosh darn anl.gov is fast	[08:28]
GlooBoy	;;rate draco49 1 Fast and Easy MP for BTC. Great Guy.	[08:29]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user draco49 has been recorded.	[08:29]
rg	draco49 ftw	[08:29]
draco49	;;rate GlooBoy 1 Quick and easy no-nonsense deal. Sold me BTC for MP. A+++	[08:29]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user GlooBoy has been recorded.	[08:29]
*	easystevey has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[08:32]
*	Joric_ has quit ()	[08:32]
*	ageis (kevin@ageispolis.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:35]
*	gribble gives voice to ageis	[08:35]
draco49	hooray, now I can pay my vps bill on time :P	[08:36]
mambahome	yay :D	[08:36]
*	sirlongshanks (46ae0659@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.174.6.89) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:36]
*	easystevey (60fa6de8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.250.109.232) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:36]
sirlongshanks	anyone do loans here?	[08:37]
mambahome	you'd be hardpressed to get a loan without being authed or having feedback	[08:38]
copumpkin	sirlongshanks: sometimes	[08:38]
copumpkin	but yeah, it's pretty hard to get a loan with no reputation	[08:38]
sirlongshanks	i got some earlier today by sending some documents to the guy	[08:39]
copumpkin	so you got one loan earlier today and are asking for more tonight? :)	[08:39]
mambahome	^ :P	[08:39]
sirlongshanks	the loan i got wasnt enough	[08:39]
sirlongshanks	but it was something	[08:40]
rg	longshanks killed mel gibson	[08:40]
rg	FUCK YOU	[08:40]
copumpkin	anyway, I won't do it, but someone on the forum might	[08:40]
rg	FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMM	[08:40]
copumpkin	o.O	[08:40]
sirlongshanks	yeah the other guy was from the forum	[08:40]
sirlongshanks	youre talking about bitcointalk right?	[08:41]
copumpkin	yeah	[08:41]
copumpkin	you posted on the forum?	[08:41]
sirlongshanks	i just sent pm's to the guys who had stickies	[08:41]
copumpkin	oh	[08:41]
copumpkin	who'd you get it from?	[08:42]
rg	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6zGEBhJMHA	[08:42]
rg	;;title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6zGEBhJMHA	[08:42]
gribble	Freedom! - Braveheart (9/9) Movie CLIP (1995) HD - YouTube	[08:42]
sirlongshanks	znort	[08:42]
mambahome	;;seen PaulZag	[08:42]
gribble	PaulZag was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 2 hours, 2 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: back in 2 hours	[08:42]
mambahome	oo he's late	[08:42]
nanotube	haha	[08:42]
*	Bigpiggy01Mining has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[08:43]
*	Bigpiggy01Mining (~Bigpiggy0@175.171.130.131) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:43]
*	UNOE227 (~mmc@unaffiliated/unoe227) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:44]
sirlongshanks	is there any other place besides the bitcointalk forum where you can get loans?	[08:44]
copumpkin	sirlongshanks: would you loan to a complete stranger on the net?	[08:44]
copumpkin	who shows up saying he borrowed earlier that day but now needs more	[08:45]
sirlongshanks	of course not. i was surprised i even got the one earlier toda	[08:45]
sirlongshanks	today*	[08:45]
nanotube	heh	[08:45]
copumpkin	sirlongshanks: I think here and the forum are your main options, and I doubt you'll have much luck	[08:46]
nanotube	can you post any collateral?	[08:47]
sirlongshanks	what would you take as collateral	[08:47]
*	timeless (803e3094@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.62.48.148) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:47]
nanotube	hm... cash? :)	[08:47]
timeless	hey tips on buying bitcoins online? I'm still stuck researching to find the most efficient methods	[08:48]
sirlongshanks	cash is what i need haha	[08:48]
nanotube	timeless: check out the otc ,,guide :)	[08:48]
gribble	Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc	[08:48]
nanotube	see also ,,(bc,wiki buying bitcoins)	[08:48]
gribble	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins \| There are various methods available for buying bitcoins.	[08:48]
*	Clonedead (~Miranda@c-6bd7e455.016-568-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[08:48]
*	Woundead has quit (Disconnected by services)	[08:48]
copumpkin	sirlongshanks: you dance4x?	[08:48]
sirlongshanks	yes	[08:48]
*	Orion-Hax_____ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[08:49]
BTC_Bear	sirlongshanks: now think about that for a sec...	[08:49]
timeless	the online order book seems really hard to use lol	[08:51]
sirlongshanks	this whole thing seems really hard to use	[08:53]
*	osmosis has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[08:53]
timeless	Is Mtgox a lot more expensive than others?	[08:54]
draco49	;;remove 7751	[08:54]
rg	no	[08:54]
copumpkin	timeless: no	[08:54]
rg	but it takes longer	[08:54]
rg	;;ticker	[08:54]
gribble	Best bid: 4.90336, Best ask: 4.92858, Bid-ask spread: 0.02522, Last trade: 4.92868, 24 hour volume: 47760, 24 hour low: 4.885, 24 hour high: 4.97	[08:54]
rg	;;asks 5	[08:54]
draco49	;;remove 7511	[08:54]
gribble	Order 7511 removed.	[08:54]
gribble	There are currently 17148.187 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 85138.672911 USD in total.	[08:54]
rg	;;asks 25	[08:54]
gribble	There are currently 247650.51 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 1989640.42929 USD in total.	[08:54]
mambahome	lol	[08:55]
mambahome	;;asks 30	[08:55]
gribble	There are currently 256455.58 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 2248276.3399 USD in total.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	wha'ts a coupla mil...	[08:56]
draco49	drop it like it's hot mircea_popescu	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[08:56]
mambahome	pocket change :D	[08:56]
draco49	make it rain up in this piece	[08:56]
timeless	do people in here sell bitcoins directly?	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	hehe. i just want 6.0	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	sometimes timeless	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	YAY! BEST LINE EVER! I HAS!	[08:57]
draco49	timeless, ppl buy and sell bitcoins all the time here	[08:57]
rg	whats a ppl	[08:57]
draco49	it's like a prsn	[08:57]
draco49	but more	[08:57]
mircea_popescu	there's something I don't understand. ppl keep going on about how they don't like mpex and glbse is better	[08:57]
mircea_popescu	so i go check out glbse	[08:57]
mircea_popescu	it actually is... identical.	[08:57]
rg	pro-active racist slut night?	[08:58]
sirlongshanks	ill sell you some bitcoins if you can find me a loan timeless	[08:58]
mircea_popescu	well, i have graphs and they don't, but otherwise... identical. wtf ?	[08:58]
draco49	rg: exactly	[08:58]
draco49	It's all about the interface	[08:58]
mircea_popescu	as in, the fact it uses gpg ?	[08:58]
draco49	well that too... but I like that... i'm referring more to the user interface... it's not pretty	[08:59]
mircea_popescu	what do you mean tho ?	[08:59]
draco49	It's not user-friendly. And it's probably terrifying to most people.	[09:00]
mircea_popescu	what is ?	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	inb4 "the interface"	[09:02]
draco49	Users like some form of aesthetics. Elements that make them feel comfortable with the process.	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	dude. http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php vs https://glbse.com/assets say aesthetics one moar time nao.	[09:02]
*	bgupta has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[09:03]
draco49	I'm not saying GLBSE is perfect or isn't a little "challenged"... You site is too... academic.	[09:04]
draco49	and I, personally, don't mind it. And I like the gpg thing.	[09:05]
*	mircea_popescu scratches head	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	i utterly fail to see the difference. is it because one table's colored ?	[09:05]
*	sirlongshanks has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[09:05]
*	gribble gives voice to bitfoo	[09:06]
draco49	No... it's more than that.	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	specifically ?	[09:06]
*	ab37 (~chatzilla@c-98-198-72-2.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:06]
*	BohemianHacks has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[09:07]
*	BohemianHacks (~chatzilla@108-95-126-135.lightspeed.mssnks.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:08]
*	je_fro has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[09:08]
draco49	It's like reading a term-paper. Information needs to be categorized and broken down into smaller, more digestible chunks.	[09:08]
*	GlooBoy has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[09:08]
mircea_popescu	so basically, the difference is that one has text ?	[09:09]
draco49	No... you need text to explain how it works. But the test needs to be re-organized, like I said, and put into a more appealing format.	[09:10]
draco49	*text	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	it's just temporary anyway, till some fraction of people have read it.	[09:11]
*	jstaryu (~jstaryu@50-0-107-45.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:11]
*	UNOE227 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[09:11]
draco49	I hope you don't mind my input.	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	not at all.	[09:13]
ab37	;;ticker	[09:13]
gribble	Best bid: 4.91242, Best ask: 4.92815, Bid-ask spread: 0.01573, Last trade: 4.92815, 24 hour volume: 48109, 24 hour low: 4.885, 24 hour high: 4.97	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	i am possibly the least susceptible person in this channel. i don't think you can piss me off :D	[09:13]
draco49	Well that's not my intent.	[09:13]
*	mircea_popescu has spent years keeping a top blog. that means hundreds of ppl make it their life goal.	[09:14]
*	Cam has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[09:14]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: i say you should post some real assets on mpex. like the mpoe shares. :)	[09:14]
draco49	I really like the gpg system... I'd like to see it put into a more automated framework.	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	nanotube : once it's coming out of beta i have some hopes to list assets people might have heard of.	[09:14]
*	jstaryu (~jstaryu@50-0-107-45.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) has left #bitcoin-otc	[09:14]
nanotube	:)	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	draco49 : if you have any scripting you can automate it as is. notice the ticked "output as html" box, if you just POST to the script it outputs proper text only gpg	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	nanotube hopefully this month.	[09:15]
draco49	Yeah I saw that.	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	and yea, i'll definitely also list mpoe, and ask shareholders to move over if they will.	[09:15]
draco49	javascript that interacted with gpg would be nice	[09:16]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: also, before you go out of beta, you should s/clearsign, then encrypt/sign and encrypt using gpg --sign --encrypt/ :)	[09:17]
draco49	I think you'd want to keep users on the site, not in a terminal.	[09:17]
mircea_popescu	is there even something like that draco49 ? and why'd i want to keep users on the site ?	[09:17]
mircea_popescu	nanotube : lemme explain something. as it works now, if there's any dispute, i have a clearsigned document i can show people.	[09:17]
*	chakl has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[09:17]
mircea_popescu	if the person just encrypts, what do i do ?	[09:18]
nanotube	good question - i am not sure if it's possible to decrypt but leave it signed. :) i'd have to look into that.	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	see, the way it is now, i have that imo essential advantage.	[09:18]
nanotube	and by 'i' i mean 'you' :)	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	from what i've seen the sig can only be verified by he who can decrypt.	[09:19]
mircea_popescu	might be wrong, im not a gpg wiz.	[09:19]
*	je_fro (~unknown@99-101-239-248.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:20]
*	je_fro has quit (Changing host)	[09:20]
*	je_fro (~unknown@gentoo/developer/je-fro) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:20]
nanotube	well, i'm curious now so i'll try to find out. :)	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	:p	[09:22]
*	mircea_popescu sharpens his exploitation skillzorz.	[09:22]
nanotube	haha	[09:23]
bitfoo	so, mircea_popescu, what does a sell order on mpex look like? I could never get it to work	[09:24]
bitfoo	I tried this: SELL\|SxTES1\|1\|900\|	[09:24]
mircea_popescu	what did it answer ?	[09:24]
bitfoo	and this: SELL SxTES1 1 900	[09:24]
bitfoo	Malformed SELL order.	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	no, 1st one is right	[09:25]
bitfoo	oh	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	but w/o last pipe	[09:25]
bitfoo	ah	[09:25]
bitfoo	let me try that	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	yee	[09:25]
bitfoo	yes, that worked	[09:26]
*	BohemianHacks has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[09:26]
bitfoo	I'm now 900 satoshis richer	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	yup, there it is	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	hehe wd!	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	nopw do a bunch of trades, i still need more data	[09:27]
bitfoo	I'll try a buy	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	and also try to break it/ check if it pays you correctly etc etc	[09:27]
bitfoo	oh, let me check stat again	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	i don't want to be finding any bugs once it's out of beta hehe	[09:27]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: just tried a stat, it told me 'bad key, you never had your key registered'.	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	umm	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	did you sign with your main ?	[09:29]
nanotube	yes	[09:29]
bitfoo	got 891 satoshi for my 900 satoshi sale, looks right	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	cool bitfoo	[09:29]
nanotube	echo "STAT" \| gpg --clearsign \| gpg --encrypt --armor -r polimedia	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	gimme id nano ?	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	umm	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	that doesn't sound right	[09:30]
nanotube	my keyid you mean?	[09:30]
nanotube	;;ident	[09:30]
gribble	You are identified as user nanotube, with GPG key id E7F938BEC95594B2, and key fingerprint D8B11AAC59A873B0F38D475CE7F938BEC95594B2.	[09:30]
mircea_popescu	echo "STAT" \| gpg --clearsign \| gpg --encrypt --armor -r MP Stock	[09:30]
mircea_popescu	try tghat	[09:30]
mircea_popescu	or echo "STAT" \| gpg --clearsign \| gpg --encrypt --armor -r F1B69921 even better	[09:30]
*	bgupta (~bgupta@207-237-248-198.c3-0.80w-ubr1.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:30]
nanotube	ah, you are using a different key for the exchange	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	yep	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	which incidentally feel free to sign	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	as well as anyone else who feels like it, go aheads :)	[09:31]
*	Elio19 (~John@unaffiliated/elio19) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:32]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: about to try it. for the record, the error, "Bad key. You probably signed with a subkey or maybe never had your key registered ?" would have been entirely misleading, if the cause was encrypting with wrong key :)	[09:33]
mircea_popescu	ya well there's about 500 possible causes	[09:33]
mircea_popescu	but let me edit.	[09:34]
nanotube	cool, it worked. :)	[09:34]
nanotube	the great seal of the exchange and all.	[09:34]
*	MORA\| (~MORA@pdpc/supporter/active/mora) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:34]
mircea_popescu	"Bad key. You either signed with an unknown subkey or else your key was never registered. Also, make sure you're using the proper exchange key (id F1B69921)."	[09:35]
*	timeless has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[09:35]
Lunaqus	what exchange we discussing?	[09:35]
mircea_popescu	course to your credit, i didn't expect someone come up with this particular ideea seeing how the id is right on the page.	[09:35]
mircea_popescu	Lunaqus http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php	[09:35]
mircea_popescu	nanotube : but if you don't mind, i'ma steal your bash line for ppl's reference	[09:36]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: sure, steal away :)	[09:36]
bitfoo	do you guys use gpg-agent?	[09:37]
nanotube	i use whatever gpg uses by default. :P	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	i don't use agent, no	[09:38]
bitfoo	that piped bash line doesn't work for me because it asks for the password	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	so it doesn't work for me either	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	but i added it there for teh ppl who have it.	[09:39]
Lunaqus	Whats MPSIC?	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	a sort of cusip in the bitcoin world.	[09:39]
nanotube	bitfoo: it asks for the pw for me too, and i give it, and it goes on. :)	[09:40]
bitfoo	interesting. I type the passphrase, hit enter, and nothing happens	[09:40]
nanotube	that said, it asks with a pretty dialog. which is probably the agent.	[09:40]
bitfoo	ah	[09:40]
nanotube	bitfoo: try hitting ctl-d after nothing happens.	[09:40]
Lunaqus	mircea:cusip?	[09:40]
nanotube	;;wp cusip number	[09:40]
gribble	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUSIP \| This permits a user to assign an issuer number to any issuer which might be relevant to his holdings but which does not qualify for coverage under the CUSIP ...	[09:40]
nanotube	Lunaqus: ^	[09:40]
bitfoo	nanotube: ctrl-c seems to be the only way to get it to quit	[09:41]
Lunaqus	hey nano	[09:41]
rg	mircea	[09:41]
rg	can i scan your site	[09:41]
nanotube	hiya Lunaqus :)	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	Lunaqus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUSIP	[09:42]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: tooo late	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	aww!	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	rg : what do you mean scan ?	[09:42]
Lunaqus	both terms are sufficiently vague and obscure you should probably define them before you start refering to them by their acronyms	[09:42]
Lunaqus	:P	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	ughm...	[09:43]
mircea_popescu	terms of art lunaqus.	[09:43]
mircea_popescu	like asking whats an iban	[09:43]
*	Cam (~i@trivialand/staff/Cam) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:43]
Lunaqus	sure	[09:43]
rg	mircea	[09:43]
rg	make sure no one can hax0r	[09:43]
Lunaqus	but when I go to amazon	[09:43]
mircea_popescu	yes rg! a, go right ahead.	[09:43]
Lunaqus	it doesnt make references to IBAN without explaining what its referencing	[09:43]
*	gogo7901 (c2913f4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.145.63.76) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:43]
mircea_popescu	except this isn't amaxon, more like FIX.	[09:43]
Lunaqus	which is what? :P	[09:44]
rg	theres not much to spider	[09:44]
Lunaqus	I'm rpetty sure my appeal to good literature standards	[09:44]
Lunaqus	doesnt care the sentence or the century	[09:44]
Lunaqus	:P	[09:44]
Lunaqus	also pretty*	[09:44]
*	LordCanti has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	Lunaqus fix is the language underlying stocks exchange transactions irl	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	but this aside, is the general opinion that it's not quite immediately clear what exactly mpsic would be ?	[09:45]
Lunaqus	its not self evident	[09:45]
Lunaqus	but nothing is self evident, you assum a context, that would be best given	[09:46]
Lunaqus	;)	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	well Lunaqus im trying to keep the page under 1mb.	[09:46]
rg	lol mircea	[09:46]
rg	http://polimedia.us/codebase/valuation.php	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	ya.	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	at some point ppl were crazy in romania about BLOG VALUE	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	i made that to prove a fucking point.	[09:47]
*	paulo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[09:47]
ab37	Selling 1983 BMW 320 IS 250 btc PM ME	[09:47]
nanotube	hehe nice	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	is that a bike ab37 ?	[09:47]
*	UNOE227 (~mmc@unaffiliated/unoe227) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:47]
copumpkin	ab37: did you post on that forum thread?	[09:47]
ab37	I couldn't post	[09:47]
Lunaqus	ab37: wouldnt it be smart to atleast add that to the orderbook?	[09:48]
ab37	no its a standard	[09:48]
mircea_popescu	o wow kickass old bmw car!	[09:48]
mircea_popescu	oldschool!	[09:48]
ab37	How would i add to orderbook ;;sell	[09:48]
ab37	yea very old school	[09:48]
*	Elio19 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)	[09:48]
Lunaqus	why you not keeping it?	[09:48]
*	Lunaqus would love to drive it	[09:49]
Lunaqus	hehe	[09:49]
ab37	i have 5 of them	[09:49]
Lunaqus	good enough reason to sell some	[09:49]
Lunaqus	lol	[09:49]
Lunaqus	you can only drive one at a time :P	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	lmao five!	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	one for each wife ?	[09:49]
*	Rabbit67890 (~Rabbit678@69-162-220-110.dynamic.cdma.acsalaska.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:50]
*	Txyru has quit (Read error: No route to host)	[09:50]
*	Txyru (~Txyru@unaffiliated/txyru) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:50]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: SxTES2 had ask at 1025, I placed 10 orders at 1200, "last trade" shows 1100, and balance has reduced by 12000	[09:51]
ab37	one for your wife	[09:51]
bitfoo	is this expected behavior? :)	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	bitfoo : all orders in the book are fully paid.	[09:51]
bitfoo	oh	[09:52]
bitfoo	so you keep the difference?	[09:52]
*	amazingrando has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	no ?	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	ow shit.	[09:52]
bitfoo	so I pay 1200, but the seller only gets 1025 right?	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	yes i do lmao	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	jesus.	[09:52]
bitfoo	ok	[09:52]
bitfoo	and the order book is never going to be visible?	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	nah, this needs fixin.	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	yes it is going to be visible	[09:53]
bitfoo	ok	[09:53]
mircea_popescu	that's why i want it fully paid, so that it can actually mean something	[09:53]
mircea_popescu	unlike say gox's	[09:53]
bitfoo	oh i see	[09:53]
*	RainbowDashh has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[09:53]
nanotube	gox order book is fully paid. (i.e, to put an order to sell 100 coins, you need to have 100 coins)	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	nanotube : it doesn't take the 100 from your acct.	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	so you can put another one.	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	bitfoo no, wait a second, i got confused. you put in an order to buy at 1200 or sell at 1200 ?	[09:55]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: buy at 1200	[09:55]
bitfoo	when ask was at 1025	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	wtf	[09:55]
bitfoo	so at least one share should have been bought at 1025	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	for 10 pcs ?	[09:55]
bitfoo	yeah	[09:55]
bitfoo	BUY\|SxTES2\|10\|1200	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	and how much did you get charged ?	[09:55]
bitfoo	12000	[09:55]
mircea_popescu	ughm there's something amiss here.	[09:56]
nanotube	mircea_popescu: ah i see	[09:56]
mircea_popescu	bitfoo i see 10 x 1025. so 10250 total.	[09:56]
Lunaqus	is exchange.bitparking.com workin for you guys?	[09:57]
bitfoo	my balances before and after: 0.09101782 and 0.08989782	[09:57]
bitfoo	the extra 0.001 was for the STAT	[09:57]
rg	im going to make a sausage with onions	[09:57]
Lunaqus	mmm good idea rg	[09:58]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: also, last trade on the web page shows 1100, while the ask is still at 1025, which also seems strange	[09:58]
rg	uh oh	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	tis. one moment we're digging here bitfoo	[09:59]
rg	jjjjrmy is gonna be so upset when he wakes up	[09:59]
rg	i found more vulns in giftcoin	[09:59]
*	bonks (bonks@unaffiliated/bonks) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[09:59]
*	poupou has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[09:59]
Chaang-Noi	has it beena while since the last block hit or something? transactions are taking forever :/	[10:00]
Lunaqus	rg: he shouldnt be upset you find them and tell him about them ;)	[10:00]
Lunaqus	if he gets to upset, next time tell us about them :P	[10:00]
rg	Lunaqus: well anyone whos told about a security vuln is gonna be upset	[10:00]
BTC_Bear	How's ndrix's version doing? I haven't ordered but seems pretty quick for pizza.	[10:00]
Lunaqus	if he gets to upset, next time tell us about them :P	[10:00]
rg	if someone messaged me right now and told me bitvps has owned, id be upset	[10:00]
rg	sausage time	[10:00]
Lunaqus	you'd rather we reported exploits we discovered to you though rather than exploited them :P	[10:01]
mircea_popescu	bitfoo : ok, should be fixed. do some testing ?	[10:02]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: alright, I'll run the same trade, see what happens	[10:02]
prime	So, Im guessing we are going to see a little bubble created really soon. It takes about a week for people discovering bitcoin to set up an account and get in the market. With the huge press bitcoin has been getting lately, i would expect a small bubble	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	prime wouldn't hurt much imo.	[10:03]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: I think I got charged 0 this time :)	[10:03]
mircea_popescu	nowai ? lol. it was TOO fixed ?	[10:03]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: 0.08989782 to 0.08889782	[10:03]
BTC_Bear	0 wait stop	[10:04]
BTC_Bear	ordering	[10:04]
bitfoo	and, the last trade still shows 1100	[10:04]
bonks	;;gpg eauth	[10:05]
prime	Was in a google hangout with an someone claiming to be an investor who told me that some Japanese corp is gearing up to place a portion of investments in bitcoin as an experiment. Any truth to this?	[10:05]
prime	Saw a post on reddit from a year ago claiming he was exploring bitcoin for his employer..	[10:06]
Lunaqus	is exchange.bitparking.com workin for you guys?	[10:06]
mircea_popescu	bitfoo ok, digging #2 :p	[10:06]
bitfoo	sure	[10:06]
prime	This one here http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/iv241/new_to_website_need_information_on_about_bit_coin/	[10:07]
*	RainbowDashh (~Rabbit678@55-3-178-69.static.gci.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:08]
rg	bad news, theyre not sausages	[10:08]
rg	theyre just plain beef franks	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	bitfoo : once moar pls.	[10:08]
bitfoo	here goes..	[10:09]
rg	oh dear	[10:09]
rg	there are crosssite forgery vulns on deepbit	[10:09]
rg	so someone could do something like insert a link to a well known bitcoin page	[10:09]
rg	and have it change the payout address	[10:10]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: nope, only got charged for the stat, nothing else	[10:10]
rg	just by viewing the page :<	[10:10]
Coolty	3	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	eh wtf!	[10:10]
bitfoo	0.08889782 -> 0.08789782	[10:10]
*	Rabbit67890 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[10:10]
*	Orion-Hax has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[10:11]
rg	do you think theres a gay bitcoin community?	[10:12]
prime	Bruce Wagner?	[10:13]
rg	thats one person, not a community	[10:13]
*	amazingrando (~amazingra@63.64.64.178) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:13]
bitfoo	lol	[10:13]
prime	He must have friends who are into bitcoin	[10:13]
rg	thai lady boys dont count	[10:13]
bitfoo	maybe http://www.reddit.com/r/GuysGoneBitcoin/	[10:13]
*	fridgee6 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[10:13]
bitfoo	oh crap	[10:14]
bitfoo	NSFW	[10:14]
rg	ban	[10:14]
prime	Yeah ban, im 28 and i cant handle adult nudity	[10:15]
MBS	anyone want to buy some itunes gift cards?	[10:15]
rg	maybe you shoulda thought of that before you ruined all our chances of getting into heaen	[10:16]
rg	heaven	[10:16]
mircea_popescu	yup bitfoo this is a confirmed bug here. on it as they say.	[10:17]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: cool, glad to help	[10:17]
mircea_popescu	very helpful fo sho :)	[10:17]
*	Bigpiggy01Mining has quit (Changing host)	[10:20]
*	Bigpiggy01Mining (~Bigpiggy0@unaffiliated/bigpiggy01mining) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:20]
*	Someguy123 is now known as Someguy123[afk]	[10:25]
*	OctopusDarling (~OctopusDa@unaffiliated/octopusdarling) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:27]
*	Someguy123[afk] is now known as Someguy123	[10:27]
mircea_popescu	bitfoo mk, was missing quotation mark lol	[10:27]
mircea_popescu	should be fixed, try again!	[10:28]
*	mambahome has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[10:28]
rg	mm	[10:28]
rg	that was good	[10:28]
rg	i cooked the onions in a little bit of butter, then i stuck the hotdogs init too	[10:28]
bitfoo	0.08789782 - 0.08679532 = .00110250	[10:29]
*	ab37 wants a whitelist request on bitcointalk	[10:29]
bitfoo	looks like it works!	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[10:30]
*	CanuckTux has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[10:30]
bitfoo	and last trade looks good too	[10:30]
*	OctopusDarling has quit (Client Quit)	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	now put in a ~300 buy to blow through the block	[10:31]
coingenuity	rg wtf	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	see if that works right	[10:31]
coingenuity	did you seriously just eat fried onion hotdogs	[10:31]
coingenuity	fried in butter	[10:31]
prime	quick, best stock i can get for .51 btc	[10:31]
rg	.. yes?	[10:31]
*	coingenuity vomits profusely	[10:31]
rg	looks like we found the gay bitcoin community	[10:32]
rg	after all	[10:32]
RainbowDashh	ouch	[10:32]
RainbowDashh	I hear someone got kicked	[10:32]
RainbowDashh	and there wasn't a kick	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	what's wrong with frying stuff in butter ? i do it all the time	[10:32]
RainbowDashh	wait, this isn't #defocus (recovering from SNS)	[10:32]
coingenuity	bitfoo: take NSFW links to #bitcoin-otc-nsfw please	[10:33]
bitfoo	coingenuity: yep, sorry.. realized only after posting it :P	[10:33]
coingenuity	it's OK	[10:33]
*	lucid (~yaaic@host-92-28-192-201.as13285.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:35]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: so I got an avg price of 1065 this time	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	aha lesee	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	140 at 1025 and 160 at 1100	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	works ?	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	yup exactly 1065	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	cool!	[10:37]
bitfoo	yep, nice	[10:38]
*	ahbritto_ (~guest@adsl-75-18-228-147.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:39]
*	ahbritto_ has quit (Changing host)	[10:39]
*	ahbritto_ (~guest@unaffiliated/ahbritto) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:39]
rg	oh dear	[10:43]
*	emmanuelux (~emmanuel@2a01:e35:2e4d:9010:21d:60ff:fe0e:b818) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:43]
rg	it appears BitVPS.COM has moved into #1 position	[10:43]
rg	when you search for 'bitcoin vps'	[10:43]
*	rg score!	[10:43]
easystevey	;;rate amazingrando 5 many transactions via MP and PP, all fantastic	[10:44]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user amazingrando has changed from 2 to 5.	[10:44]
bitfoo	mircea_popescu: I created a buy and a sell on SxTES3 and they matched each other	[10:49]
bitfoo	what's the expected behavior here?	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	they would.	[10:49]
bitfoo	ah ok	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	im kinda on the fence about it.	[10:50]
bitfoo	I think some exchanges prevent you from doing that	[10:50]
mircea_popescu	i know.	[10:50]
mircea_popescu	but... not so sure it's worth the extra test step.	[10:50]
mircea_popescu	i mean, this is a system under pressure. why slow everyone down for it ?	[10:50]
bitfoo	yeah, a client that does that should be considered buggy :)	[10:51]
*	Turingi (~devon@unaffiliated/devon-hillard/x-7250961) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:52]
mircea_popescu	rg so how's the testing coming along ? :)	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	inb4 "your site is too simple to effectively hack".	[10:57]
rg	whats inb4 mean	[10:59]
*	DBordello (~DB@unaffiliated/dbordello) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[10:59]
mircea_popescu	in before	[10:59]
rg	i couldnt do anything, your site has nothing to spider	[10:59]
rg	im just messing around with a new scanner	[10:59]
*	reureu2k3 (6cd0275e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.208.39.94) has left #bitcoin-otc	[10:59]
rg	it lacks the ability to input specific urls	[10:59]
mircea_popescu	aha	[10:59]
rg	you know that doesnt make you secure	[11:00]
*	ovidiusoft (~ovidiusof@188.26.130.216) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[11:00]
mircea_popescu	well anyway, im off to bed. everyone don't have too much fun while im gone	[11:00]
rg	right?	[11:00]
mircea_popescu	rg yea, just messing with you a little.	[11:00]
rg	going to bed	[11:00]
rg	wha the fuck	[11:00]
*	Received a CTCP TIME from rg	[11:00]
rg	its 11am	[11:00]
mircea_popescu	sooo ?	[11:00]
rg	deadbeat	[11:00]
mircea_popescu	mk. let me rephrase	[11:01]
mircea_popescu	im going to swim in titsoup. see you all later.	[11:01]
rg	youre going to lick the underpart of a fat womens sweaty breast	[11:01]
rg	she hasnt showered in a week	[11:01]
rg	it smells like cheez	[11:01]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-otc	[18:33]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. \| http://bitcoin-otc.com/ \| http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 \| Start with the ;;guide \| Before trading, talk to people, and check ratings. \| Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud \| Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc \| Bitcoin VPS: http://bitvps.com \| BTC → MP @ http://btcpak.com \| Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe	[18:33]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Wed Apr 4 06:47:00 2012	[18:33]
Blitzboom	referring to his uncle vinny joke here	[18:34]
PaulZag	I was once a senior exec at a small publically listed company 95 year old company. I had customers visiting from os, so i called the (retired) marketing director and asked him how I'd know if these guys needed to be shown a "good time"	[18:34]
Chaang-Noi	he locked my accounts.. he went after non glbse accounts.	[18:34]
Blitzboom	yeah, and why do you seek to start trouble again now?	[18:34]
Chaang-Noi	i only quoted that becasue i was going to use it in a post about him. however we might get things worked out	[18:34]
Chaang-Noi	nefario still has somethings to resolve with me	[18:35]
PaulZag	I hope so	[18:35]
Blitzboom	i am talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75275.msg836621#msg836621	[18:35]
ircWALK	i have an mtgox account. how do i find out my bitcoin address?!	[18:35]
Blitzboom	he clearly said it was a joke	[18:35]
Blitzboom	and then you continue on with your crusade?	[18:35]
TH4R00T	Anybody here who has a decent multicore GC to make a hash table	[18:35]
Blitzboom	seems unwise to continue as provocing when you just made a deal	[18:36]
TH4R00T	@Ircwalk please stop being a retard	[18:36]
AndrewNTH	ircWALK: go to funding options, deposits, bitcoin	[18:37]
Chaang-Noi	yeah, nefario just asked me for some time to deal with it. so things will be avoided for now. i wont need to quote him i hope.	[18:37]
Blitzboom	the fuss you made in public was also a bit counterproductive	[18:37]
Blitzboom	and then revealing your email’s password practically	[18:37]
Chaang-Noi	Blitzboom he said it was not a joke. He would not unlock the accounts. I had to tell the share holders. That is my job.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	o hey, look who's here.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	so did you ever take those YOLA pics with your wife Chaang-Noi ?	[18:38]
PaulZag	;;ticker	[18:38]
gribble	Best bid: 4.88555, Best ask: 4.90347, Bid-ask spread: 0.01792, Last trade: 4.90445, 24 hour volume: 35493, 24 hour low: 4.88, 24 hour high: 4.94486	[18:38]
Blitzboom	Chaang-Noi: ? i am speaking of the post i linked. he said it was a joke there	[18:38]
Blitzboom	you seem to want to provoke him	[18:39]
Chaang-Noi	he still has some of my stuff locked down.	[18:39]
Chaang-Noi	i found a way however to have it resolved (i think)	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	i'm guessing i'm never going to get an answer huh.	[18:39]
Blitzboom	how about just giving him your ID like your shareholders wanted	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	this "ignore parts we don't like to hear" habit is really dumbing the general population down by now.	[18:40]
Chaang-Noi	i do not know waht YOLA is.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	somebody in the thread asked you to take a pic with your wife in front of a well known public building in thailand.	[18:40]
Blitzboom	YOLA?	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	as to prove you actually exist there.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	have you ?	[18:40]
ircWALK	AndrewNTH: wtf thanks. i swearrrrrr i went there and it didn't show me the bitcoin address. seriously. anyway, thanks	[18:40]
Chaang-Noi	iv never even heard of the YOLA building. i do not think it is that well known.	[18:41]
Chaang-Noi	also i do not live in bangkok	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	wherever do you live.	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	pull up something that can be independently confirmed with google maps or whatev.	[18:41]
*	TH4R00T has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	as the person said, it would go 1000% more towards butressing your position than any id	[18:42]
Chaang-Noi	yeah that has been done by my shareholders. hell, ill post a photo of me and the princess of thailand if you want :/	[18:42]
*	ovidiusoft has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)	[18:42]
Chaang-Noi	would that make you think i was in thailand?	[18:42]
Blitzboom	no	[18:43]
Chaang-Noi	okay lol	[18:43]
Chaang-Noi	see cant make everyone happy	[18:43]
eastender	yolo	[18:43]
Chaang-Noi	on person wanted me to uplaod a photo of my dog :/	[18:43]
Blitzboom	it’s easy to prove your identity	[18:43]
EvanR	rg: do you have vps for sale	[18:43]
EvanR	shell and shit?	[18:43]
Blitzboom	but you seemed to try everything to avoid it	[18:43]
EvanR	identity is subjective	[18:44]
EvanR	your physical body is irrelevant	[18:44]
Blitzboom	first, the "OMG INSECURE", then the "OMG IS THAT LEGAL" and now mocking nefario regardless	[18:44]
PaulZag	isn't the meme to upload a photo with a shoe on your head?	[18:44]
Blitzboom	which seems weird to me	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi no. a person is not a building.	[18:44]
EvanR	if two physical people were in perfect communication, they are effectively the same person to you	[18:44]
Chaang-Noi	i dont understand. photo of me in a royal cerimony with the thai princess is not good enough? odd.	[18:44]
eastender	what if you wake up one day and think you're someone else?	[18:44]
Blitzboom	it seems like it is an effort to make as much noise to distract from yourself	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	it's not that hard, stop beating around the bush. go in front of a fucking temple and take a pic with the woman.	[18:44]
Chaang-Noi	iv been to 30 countries... i can post pics of myself and my wife in many places all over the world	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	no.	[18:45]
Chaang-Noi	i really dont see how this would help you guys.	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	doesn't matter whart you see	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	do it.	[18:45]
Chaang-Noi	lol	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	that's how trust emerges :	[18:45]
Blitzboom	yeah, i honestly see no reason not to	[18:45]
Blitzboom	you already have that pic public	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	not when you do what you "see", but when you do what other people say they need.	[18:45]
Chaang-Noi	things is, the people i deal with are happy. trolls are not :/ why do i care? oh wait, i dont!	[18:45]
*	bera (4a58180e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.88.24.14) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	see, this attitude makes you very suspect.	[18:46]
Blitzboom	^ agreed	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	calling me a troll is one thing	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	calling me a troll cause you don't like what i say is quite another.	[18:46]
Chaang-Noi	i can post 10 photos of me and my wife in 10 differnt countries, what does this prove? i get trolled...	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	sigh.	[18:46]
nanotube	it proves that at some point you have been to tailand. :)	[18:46]
Chaang-Noi	yup, and i have more than done that already with my shareholders.	[18:47]
Chaang-Noi	if you dont like me or trust me dont work with me	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	in other news... http://imgur.com/a/0OSPf	[18:47]
PaulZag	ircWALK: there was a bug earlier today and all that option showed was Gox's deal with Aurum. AndrewNTH I rased as support ticket for it and they marked it resolved and gave standard answer. Later it was fixed	[18:47]
Chaang-Noi	free market	[18:47]
Blitzboom	i thought horserider was stupid at first, but after the big deal you made out of showing your ID i wold be cautious too	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	^ exactly.	[18:48]
Chaang-Noi	i dont trust nefario, after he locked my accounts and tried to get differnt bitcoin sites to lock my funds. i asked him why he was doing this. he did not tell me. so i did not send the ID	[18:48]
*	galaxy_27_ (~galaxy@68.178.115.34) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[18:48]
Blitzboom	he said there were attempts to break in to your acc	[18:49]
*	mircea_popescu wonders if the guy honestly doesn't get it.	[18:49]
Blitzboom	then you posted your email pw, basically, in public	[18:49]
Blitzboom	and i had to report it	[18:49]
Blitzboom	why did you do that? i’m not sure	[18:49]
Blitzboom	nefario’s been around since late 2010	[18:50]
Blitzboom	and he is working with intersango and giving public speeches about bitcoin	[18:50]
Blitzboom	i’d say he is trustworthy	[18:50]
*	Chaang_Noi_ (~J@118.172.241.41.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	at least we know we actuyally exists.	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	at least we know he actually exists.*	[18:51]
galaxy_27_	where is how to register guide?	[18:52]
Blitzboom	;;guide	[18:52]
Blitzboom	http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc	[18:52]
galaxy_27_	;;guide	[18:52]
*	GlooBoy has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[18:53]
*	Chaang-Noi has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[18:53]
Blitzboom	Chaang_Noi_: https://privatepaste.com/f297061e73	[18:53]
Chaang_Noi_	iv talked with the people at intersango about him.	[18:55]
*	hngryhngryhippo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[18:55]
Chaang_Noi_	it was productive	[18:55]
Chaang_Noi_	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75522.msg836800#msg836800 hehe	[18:56]
Chaang_Noi_	people know who i am, and where i am. but just not you guys	[18:56]
Chaang_Noi_	:/	[18:56]
Blitzboom	that’s too bad for you, because you will continue to be met with suspicion	[18:56]
Chaang_Noi_	i could care less really :/	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	ok so then see you later ?	[18:57]
Blitzboom	could care less about reputation? hmmm	[18:57]
Chaang_Noi_	im not here to make people happy	[18:57]
Chaang_Noi_	im here to make money and keep my family safe from nutters	[18:57]
Blitzboom	keep your family safe from nefario, gotcha	[18:57]
Chaang_Noi_	yeah, i could care less what 99.999999% of the people on the internet think of me	[18:57]
copumpkin	with a name like nefario, can you really blame him?	[18:57]
copumpkin	he sounds pretty nefarious to me	[18:57]
Blitzboom	haha copumpkin	[18:57]
Chaang_Noi_	he said he would post my passport online. thats illegal :/	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	ya, not the best chosen copumpnick	[18:58]
Blitzboom	well, nefario’s real name is public	[18:58]
copumpkin	which is why I think it's ridiculous that our flagship stock exchange is led by a guy called nefario	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	flagship ? o,o	[18:58]
Blitzboom	Chaang_Noi_: he said he would post it online if you turned out to be a scammer	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	mpex going out of beta soonish, keep your frilly knickers on :D	[18:58]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: well, for now :P	[18:59]
*	hngryhngryhippo (~hngryhngr@129.174.97.34) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[18:59]
rasengan	Blitzboom: That's probably not a good idea. :P	[18:59]
Blitzboom	so what is the conclusion to draw here	[18:59]
EvanR	mircea_popescu: lol	[18:59]
Chaang_Noi_	yeah, but what is a scammer to him? someone tries to hack my account? he tried to lock my accounts outside of GLBSE! that is not what a sane person does	[18:59]
copumpkin	Blitzboom: even that's not cool	[18:59]
EvanR	Chaang_Noi_: stop trolling	[18:59]
Blitzboom	copumpkin: yeah, i think he took it back	[18:59]
EvanR	i dont even need to read what youre saying to know thats what youre doing	[18:59]
Chaang_Noi_	lol	[18:59]
copumpkin	Blitzboom: he isn't law enforcement, and someone's innocent until proven otherwise	[18:59]
Chaang_Noi_	yeah ill stop trolling, see you guys, enjoy!	[18:59]
rasengan	Chaang_Noi_: hey	[19:00]
EvanR	copumpkin: sometimes they are innocent even though theyve been proven otherwise	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	EvanR he is skilled at issue avoidance fo sho.	[19:00]
Blitzboom	Chaang_Noi_: so no pic in front of public building w/ wife for us?	[19:00]
copumpkin	EvanR: yeah :P	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2C5TjS2sh4 let's all go back to the 80s	[19:00]
pigeons	don't forget the shoe on head	[19:01]
Chaang_Noi_	lol i was just going to ask if you wanted a shoe	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	lmao if he has a wife there's no shoe	[19:01]
Chaang_Noi_	thats my whole point	[19:01]
Blitzboom	what’s your point	[19:01]
copumpkin	you could both wear shoes	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	if he suddenly comes out that she's some paid model at a 1999 car show in Texas then yea. shoe.	[19:01]
copumpkin	shoes never come individually	[19:01]
copumpkin	they always come in pairs	[19:01]
Chaang_Noi_	see ya guys, good night.	[19:01]
*	Chaang_Noi_ (~J@118.172.241.41.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) has left #bitcoin-otc ("Leaving")	[19:01]
copumpkin	thus it only makes sense for both you and your wife to wear a shoe	[19:01]
copumpkin	aw	[19:02]
Blitzboom	well, i wouldn’t trust him with a bitcent	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	the guy's a total shambling horror.	[19:02]
copumpkin	I dunno, I like him	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin you have a heart. this is a place of business. you don't fit.	[19:02]
Mad7Scientist	mircea_popescu, as awful as it is it is way better than the stuff we have now	[19:02]
copumpkin	lol	[19:02]
Blitzboom	haha mircea_popescu	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	Mad7Scientist you mean what ?	[19:02]
PaulZag	will someone please explain the shoe meme?	[19:02]
Mad7Scientist	The youtube video	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	PaulZag back in the old days there was a board of pissed off ppl trying to get back at nigerian scammers	[19:03]
Blitzboom	PaulZag: anon asks people on livecams to put shoe on head	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	sorta like to catch a preditor forums, except with scammers	[19:03]
Blitzboom	when they do it, epic lulz	[19:03]
Mad7Scientist	The 409scam website?	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	and one of the most successfull pranks of the ppl was to get some famished black guy take a pick with a shoe on head	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	in reference maybe to dali's shoe hat ?	[19:03]
Blitzboom	the shoe on head proves that it is indeed liive	[19:04]
Blitzboom	and not just a recording	[19:04]
SphericalCow	i like the one where they got the 419 scammers to perform YMCA	[19:04]
copumpkin	if the shoe on the head becomes "a thing"	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	Mad7Scientist : for sure. back in the 80s the bands that sucked were still pleasant	[19:04]
copumpkin	then it might not prove anything :)	[19:04]
Mad7Scientist	They did a counter-scam where they had the guys from nigeria charter a boat to find a floating box with GPS which was supposed to be loaded with cash	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	today the bands that are good are unbearable.	[19:04]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg eregister galaxy_27 40976EAF437D05B5	[19:04]
Blitzboom	copumpkin: shoere	[19:04]
copumpkin	then it might have to turn into a doubleshoe	[19:04]
copumpkin	eventually we'll have people carrying entire shoe stores around on their heads	[19:04]
Mad7Scientist	This song from youtube makes me think of the first stages of a Communist takeover and destruction of the family structure	[19:05]
PaulZag	how did I miss the shoe meme - I've been online since Fidonet?	[19:05]
copumpkin	PaulZag: perhaps you're just dumb	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	PaulZag you prolly were not online in the communities of the stupid.	[19:05]
Mad7Scientist	like we are now	[19:05]
Blitzboom	= 4chan	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	for instance i was never online in romanian till ~2009. i was shocked, shocked i say to discover there actuyally was a little ecosystem as old as the late 90s	[19:06]
copumpkin	anyway, gotta use your heart to make money, mircea_popescu	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	of nitwits who didn't speak english	[19:06]
copumpkin	my heart will go on and get rich	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin no, you don't. your head.	[19:06]
copumpkin	nope, my ass	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	lol	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	i don't think your ass would pay your rent honey.	[19:06]
copumpkin	ass + heart = lethal combination	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	nothing personal, but i've seen ass before.	[19:06]
Blitzboom	my ass too	[19:07]
Blitzboom	http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/squares/ButtcoinAnimated.gif/295_295_ButtcoinAnimated.gif	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133359287880.jpg this is how ass that makes money looks.	[19:07]
Blitzboom	who is she	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	for future reference.	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	she's my wife	[19:07]
PaulZag	thanks guys for the quick update	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	we live in thailand	[19:07]
copumpkin	really?	[19:07]
*	clone1018 (~luke@axxim.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:07]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: hahahaha	[19:07]
*	BTC_Bear\|hbrntng is now known as BTC_Bear	[19:07]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: do you keep her locked in your basement?	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	no not really lmao. im not married.	[19:07]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: do you like Secretary (the movie)?	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin actualyl we watched it, was hilarious.	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	it does have some very accurate points.	[19:08]
copumpkin	do you tell people how many peas they can eat?	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	if i feel like it.	[19:08]
*	GlooBoy (48948d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.148.141.154) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	actually it may come as a shock, but the one point where most teens/twentysomething need the most help	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	is in how to properly wash oneself.	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	i don't mean they don't do it or that they are filthy at all	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	but boy... apparently nobody teaches kids HOW to efficiently wash or anything, so they just end up with these borderline ocd wasteful and roundabout procedures	[19:10]
copumpkin	lol	[19:10]
*	bera has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	afk	[19:11]
*	da2ce7 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[19:11]
PaulZag	;;ticker	[19:12]
gribble	Best bid: 4.88554, Best ask: 4.89854, Bid-ask spread: 0.013, Last trade: 4.88554, 24 hour volume: 35395, 24 hour low: 4.875, 24 hour high: 4.94486	[19:12]
Blitzboom	i like how everybody bought on the reuter’s article and nothing is happening really	[19:13]
*	Joric_ (~joric@94.51.242.182) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:14]
*	Joric_ has quit (Changing host)	[19:14]
*	Joric_ (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:14]
copumpkin	:)	[19:15]
*	Joric has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)	[19:16]
*	Joric (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:17]
PaulZag	did they really buy on it?	[19:17]
PaulZag	schmucks	[19:17]
Blitzboom	i believe so	[19:18]
Blitzboom	buy the news, sell the rumor	[19:18]
Blitzboom	or what was it	[19:18]
Blitzboom	:D	[19:18]
nanotube	other way around ;)	[19:19]
*	Joric_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)	[19:19]
PaulZag	I need to watch ALL of Secretary (the movie) seen only 20 mins of it on TV one night	[19:20]
copumpkin	PaulZag: just ask mircea_popescu for one of his home videos	[19:20]
*	biticoni (~biticoni@6-10.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:20]
biticoni	hi	[19:20]
biticoni	anyone her	[19:21]
nanotube	nope, just bots.	[19:21]
PaulZag	I once had an accountant who was a dom, all the women working for him were subs - his subs. and the corporate website photos were all glamour shots	[19:21]
Mad7Scientist	Is there a miner for for the SHA256 hardware on VIA CPUs?	[19:21]
biticoni	anyone change?	[19:21]
*	Cablesaurus has quit (Quit: Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.)	[19:23]
biticoni	i need coins	[19:24]
blinkbat	i need a pizza	[19:25]
biticoni	ok.how mutch coins lol	[19:26]
biticoni	i think its wron channel her	[19:27]
biticoni	g	[19:27]
*	lucid has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[19:27]
Blitzboom	i too want pizza	[19:27]
mambahome	;;rate PaulZag 1 Thanks for the painless pp to btc	[19:27]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PaulZag has been recorded.	[19:27]
PaulZag	;;rate mambahome 1 sold mambahome BTC for PPUSD after verifying quite a few details about him. easy0going and friendly guy	[19:27]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mambahome has been recorded.	[19:27]
*	Melt_Down has quit ()	[19:28]
biticoni	bitcoins for paysafe	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	lol i don't publish mah home vids	[19:28]
PaulZag	g'night -otc off to bed.	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	nn	[19:28]
PaulZag	heheh mircea_popescu	[19:29]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: for a price you do	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	mno ?	[19:29]
PaulZag	for a price everyone does	[19:29]
blinkbat	biticoni: are you rated?	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	not rly.	[19:29]
blinkbat	;;getrating biticoni	[19:29]
biticoni	hmm	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	PaulZag> I once had an accountant who was a dom, all the women working for him were subs - his subs. and the corporate website photos were all glamour shots <<< this sounds scary.	[19:29]
PaulZag	it was bizare	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	the problem of slaves is ocd anyway... having them be accountants... whoa.	[19:30]
biticoni	not rated how i can do	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	that guy was eiher good or insane.	[19:30]
PaulZag	we went out for drinks after a conference and I discovered the ladies all jumped to his tune. it was amazing	[19:30]
Bigpiggy01Mining	I SMEGGING DID IT :)	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	it's not too bad.	[19:31]
*	Duke_pro has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	and yes, it scares the shit out of smartasses at like conferences	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	the usual 30yo powertrippin mba	[19:31]
Bigpiggy01Mining	12x 6950 in one rig :)	[19:31]
PaulZag	I was mesmerized... I'd "heard of it" but never seen it in real life.	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	o hey wd Bigpiggy01Mining	[19:32]
grubles	selling btc for paypal	[19:32]
PaulZag	you genius piggy	[19:32]
*	agricocb has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[19:32]
PaulZag	grubles	[19:32]
grubles	hi	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	PaulZag to be fair, even very close relationships rarely get displayed to the degree.	[19:32]
*	Bigpiggy01Mining happydances all the way to the fridge for a cold beer :)	[19:32]
ircWALK	do not trade with BTC Guy on bitcointalk. he claimed to send me 7.5 BTC over 20minutes ago. I have still not received them	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	i think he's legit ?	[19:33]
PaulZag	what does blockchain.info say?	[19:33]
mambahome	ircWALK: does he have a otc profile?	[19:33]
*	form has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[19:33]
ircWALK	well i got pm logs on bitcointalk where he claims to have sent me bitcoins. i also got in my Outbox folder me specifying a correct bitcoin address	[19:33]
PaulZag	;;ticker	[19:34]
gribble	Best bid: 4.90691, Best ask: 4.907, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000000001e-05, Last trade: 4.90691, 24 hour volume: 35711, 24 hour low: 4.875, 24 hour high: 4.94486	[19:34]
*	form (~form@217.170.129.50) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:34]
ircWALK	i can also show screenshots of my mtgox account, verifying that it is infact my bitcoin address, and that i haven't received anything	[19:34]
*	Orion-Hax has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)	[19:35]
Blitzboom	mtgox requires 6 confirmations	[19:35]
Blitzboom	which will take ~ 1 hr	[19:35]
ircWALK	"i sent your coins. it already have 4/6 confirmations."	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	ya, give it 1hr	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	he's legit.	[19:35]
ircWALK	oh ok.	[19:35]
helo	you need a 3rd party that saw the address you sent	[19:35]
Blitzboom	you can look at the address in blockchain.info perhaps	[19:35]
Tril	ircwalk, you are using mtgox, the coin will not show until 6 confirmations. that's normal.	[19:35]
ircWALK	well i guess bitcointalk admins can see the address i sent. its saved on the forum pm logs somewhere	[19:36]
Blitzboom	chill	[19:36]
mambahome	as Blitzboom said, mtgox doesn't show until 6 confirmations	[19:36]
mambahome	to prevent double spending	[19:36]
mambahome	is that right?	[19:36]
ircWALK	yup, thats probably what it is	[19:36]
Blitzboom	i think 6 is too paranoid	[19:36]
Blitzboom	but whatever	[19:36]
*	biticoni (~biticoni@6-10.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch) has left #bitcoin-otc	[19:37]
PaulZag	ircWALK: go to http://blockchain.info/address/1YourWallet and see how many confirmations it has	[19:37]
PaulZag	but change 1YourWallet	[19:37]
*	BTC_Bear is now known as BTC_Bear\|hbrntng	[19:37]
nanotube	Blitzboom: well we did cerently have a 4-long orphan chain, due to that invalid p2sh tx.	[19:37]
Blitzboom	nice	[19:38]
Blitzboom	and here i thought 3 was fairly safe	[19:38]
gmaxwell	nanotube: but you never would have seen it if you were running 0.6 yourself.	[19:38]
ircWALK	PaulZag: thanks. nice site. only got 4 confirmations	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	6 is pretty sensible imo	[19:38]
PaulZag	ircWALK: that's how to check xfers to exchanges and other parties	[19:39]
Blitzboom	i just wish we could use green addresses more	[19:39]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg eregister galaxy27 82108526ECC2490C	[19:39]
nanotube	gmaxwell: well yes. but it's a known fact that there are a lot of old clients out there. :)	[19:39]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg eregister galaxy_27 82108526ECC2490C	[19:40]
Blitzboom	the future will be a bunch of sites trusting each other	[19:40]
gmaxwell	Blitzboom: Green addresses are pretty terrible too. Worse, the crowd out better solutions that don't have their weaknesses.	[19:40]
Blitzboom	what would you suggest?	[19:41]
PaulZag	what are green addresses	[19:41]
blinkbat	6 is the recommended	[19:41]
blinkbat	ohps nm	[19:41]
Tril	;;bc,wiki green address	[19:42]
gribble	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Green_address \| Mar 29, 2012 ... A green address is a special trusted Bitcoin address that is used to indicate the origin of funds to a recipient. Assuming the recipient trusts the ...	[19:42]
PaulZag	ah	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	in general poor solutions crowd out the better solutions, its a bizzare phenomena.	[19:43]
PaulZag	don't you mean elegance and inelegance?	[19:44]
helo	green addresses are terrible because they just shift the trust from the bitcoin protocol to some list of addresses somewhere?	[19:45]
*	Warking has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[19:45]
PaulZag	anyway - for the last time - g'night	[19:45]
*	spotifycoin (~sptfycn@unaffiliated/mcorlett/bot/spotifycoin) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:45]
*	gribble gives voice to spotifycoin	[19:46]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg eregister galaxy_27 82108526ECC2490C	[19:48]
*	zveda has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[19:49]
*	Testerosterone has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)	[19:50]
*	zveda (~ilia@unaffiliated/zveda) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:51]
galaxy_27_	;;;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[19:51]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[19:52]
bigrhino	so anyone else selling btc for moneypak?	[19:52]
*	galaxy_27_ is now known as galaxy_27	[19:52]
galaxy_27	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[19:52]
copumpkin	MmMMmMMMMMmmm my honey caramels came in	[19:55]
*	agricocb (~agricolc@unaffiliated/agricocb) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:55]
*	Cablesaurus (~IceChat77@c-71-63-107-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:56]
*	Cablesaurus has quit (Changing host)	[19:56]
*	Cablesaurus (~IceChat77@unaffiliated/cablesaurus) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:56]
*	galaxy_27 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	any good ?	[19:56]
*	Testerosterone (~chatzilla@c-98-236-57-26.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:57]
*	emmanuelux (~emmanuel@2a01:e35:2e4d:9010:21d:60ff:fe0e:b818) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[19:58]
*	GroundRod (d80eeb20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.14.235.32) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:00]
*	galaxy_27_ (~galaxy@68.178.115.34) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:01]
clone1018	bigrhino: there's a site for that	[20:01]
clone1018	bigrhino: https://www.btcpak.com/	[20:01]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:443d05bf82d56d77b30d0bd6e0d13a0014d824520cb4a851362971ba	[20:02]
gribble	Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user galaxy_27 with key 82108526ECC2490C	[20:02]
bigrhino	clone1018, i want to buy btc, i have moneypak $ in exchange	[20:03]
*	emmanuelux has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[20:04]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[20:05]
gribble	Request successful for user galaxy_27, hostmask galaxy_27_!~galaxy@68.178.115.34. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ea070210118aafea4cba02fbbe85195607f4f69ed5bcf1434f6dcaa6	[20:05]
*	hngryhngryhippo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[20:07]
blinkbat	is there anyone reputable here who can buy me a pizza for delivery from dominoes in the uk for btc?	[20:07]
*	emmanuelux (~emmanuel@2a01:e35:2e4d:9010:21d:60ff:fe0e:b818) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:07]
*	blaeks has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[20:12]
GroundRod	;;guide	[20:13]
GroundRod	guide	[20:14]
*	galaxy_27_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[20:14]
GroundRod	quit	[20:14]
GroundRod	exit	[20:14]
*	GroundRod (d80eeb20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.14.235.32) has left #bitcoin-otc	[20:14]
*	Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:19]
*	hngryhngryhippo (~hngryhngr@129.174.97.34) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:20]
*	andress (~andres@108.171.105.130) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:21]
andress	gi	[20:21]
*	roomservice (~roomservi@hnvr-4d079bfe.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:21]
andress	lc	[20:21]
*	andress has quit (Client Quit)	[20:21]
*	area has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[20:24]
*	galaxy_27_ (~galaxy@67.139.146.6) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:27]
*	paulo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[20:28]
*	fridgee6 (~asdf@129-97-247-123.uwaterloo.ca) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:29]
DeaDTerra	940 BTC left of the avalibility for the starting week of Gamma Bitcoin Fund, I am looking for new investors, if your intrested in investing in a Bitcoin fund that invests in bonds,shares,stocks,currency exchange and bot trading then check this thread out :) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74975.0	[20:29]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[20:30]
SpeedBus	;;getrating DeaDTerra	[20:31]
gribble	This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated.	[20:31]
SpeedBus	:P	[20:31]
*	hngryhngryhippo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[20:32]
DeaDTerra	I have tried to get OTC working 3 times, ever single time it has failed and when I have tried to get help, I have been ignored.	[20:32]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg verify http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/576592/	[20:32]
DeaDTerra	You can chose to trust me if you want if not then that's okay as well. I am here to stay and I know that to build up reputation takes time	[20:32]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg verify http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/576592/	[20:33]
*	seco coughs	[20:33]
*	AcidicChip hands seco a Halls	[20:33]
DeaDTerra	hey seco :D	[20:33]
seco	hey there, so you managed to ask in chan while i was afk doh? :)	[20:34]
DeaDTerra	haha xD	[20:34]
DeaDTerra	did you get my Pm?	[20:34]
seco	yup	[20:34]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg verify http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/576592/	[20:34]
DeaDTerra	great	[20:34]
seco	so where did you get stuck at following http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Registration ?	[20:35]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg verify http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/576592/	[20:35]
seco	oh thank you AcidicChip btw :)	[20:35]
DeaDTerra	I think last time I got stuck on the last step where I was going to connect my GPG to the OTC	[20:35]
Tril	galaxy_27_: for verify you don't need to encrypt, just clearsign and armor	[20:35]
DeaDTerra	though I think I will have to re do everything so let me start with that now :)	[20:36]
Tril	galaxy_27_: the paste should be readable and contain the text sent to you when you did verify	[20:36]
pigeons	I'm sorry no one was around DeaDTerra, usually people are happy to help someone get registered	[20:36]
Tril	*when you did auth	[20:36]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg verify paste.pocoo.org/raw/576592/	[20:36]
seco	DeaDTerra: do you remember the email-address you entered while creating the gpg keypair (or what name you entered there as email-address)? and do you still own the private key of that keypair?	[20:36]
*	Joric has quit ()	[20:36]
DeaDTerra	Okay thank you very much, I will start to fix with the GPG and when I need help I will shout :)	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	DeaDTerra - you the one from btctalk ?	[20:37]
DeaDTerra	Yes I remember the email though I don't have the keys (reinstalltion of windows)	[20:37]
DeaDTerra	indeed I am	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	a so welcome.	[20:37]
*	agricocb has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[20:37]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg verify http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/576592/	[20:37]
seco	DeaDTerra: your key will be around on the keyservers, so all you need is to fetch it fingerprint (sometimes a bit tricky), and to tell this to gribble in a oneliner to get registered :)	[20:38]
DeaDTerra	thank you	[20:38]
DeaDTerra	I think I will just start from the beginning.	[20:38]
seco	ah ok, then just restart	[20:38]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[20:38]
*	hngryhngryhippo (~hngryhngr@129.174.97.34) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:38]
seco	but save and backup private key for future use - its just a few lines of text if exportet right g	[20:39]
seco	exported*	[20:39]
*	ovidiusoft (~ovidiusof@188.26.130.216) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:39]
DeaDTerra	right so what server do I use to create the GPG key?	[20:39]
DeaDTerra	Okay will do	[20:39]
DeaDTerra	pgp.mit.edu ?	[20:40]
ab37	;;ticker	[20:40]
gribble	Best bid: 4.89083, Best ask: 4.90989, Bid-ask spread: 0.01906, Last trade: 4.8908, 24 hour volume: 36610, 24 hour low: 4.87, 24 hour high: 4.94486	[20:40]
*	LordCanti (~MF@unaffiliated/lordcanti) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:40]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg verify http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/576598/	[20:40]
LordCanti	;;gpg eauth LordCanti	[20:40]
seco	you have to create the kaypair local at home, and upload the public part to the keyserver; yes you can use pgpg.mit.edu, but gribble also can take subset.pool.sks-keyservers.net: regardless where you upload the public key it will get synced around most keyservers in the next days	[20:41]
pigeons	if you send it to pgp.mit.edu or subset.pool.sks-keyservers.net you should be fine	[20:41]
seco	keypair*	[20:41]
*	bill_stickers (~skaro@2001:0:53aa:64c:1c2f:5f43:b953:1d8a) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:41]
jcpham	what is galaxy_27_ doing over and over	[20:41]
jcpham	why do they no euth and everify?	[20:42]
DeaDTerra	what bit? will 2,048 bits do?	[20:42]
pigeons	it will do, but are you reading http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication? I think the 4096 is "reccomended" now	[20:42]
seco	yes, i only do 4096 but also 2048 is ok	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	depends if you set it to expire	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	if you don't, 4096 is abetter choice	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	if it's 1yr or whatever, 2096 will be fine	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	2048*	[20:43]
seco	i think there are already clusters around the world who can crack up to 1024 in about 3weeks from what i hear....but gladly complexity of keylength is exponential :)	[20:44]
*	Txyru has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[20:45]
seco	or take 1024 with 2 weeks :D	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	:p	[20:45]
*	Txyru (~Txyru@unaffiliated/txyru) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:45]
gmaxwell	seco: nah.	[20:46]
gmaxwell	Thats very much not true.	[20:46]
gmaxwell	(or at least— not consistent with public information, who knows what crazy secret things exist)	[20:46]
DeaDTerra	Okay I have now gotten a fingerprint, a KEY-ID and a sub key ID. Which one am I am going to upload?	[20:46]
DeaDTerra	;;gpg eregister DeaDTerra	[20:47]
galaxy_27_	;;gpg verify http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/576602/	[20:47]
MindChild	read the wiki	[20:47]
*	killinpablo (5ac97b4e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.201.123.78) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:47]
*	Woundead (~Miranda@c-6bd7e455.016-568-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:48]
*	galaxy_27_ (~galaxy@67.139.146.6) has left #bitcoin-otc ("Ex-Chat")	[20:48]
*	galaxy_27_ (~galaxy@67.139.146.6) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:48]
seco	heh gmaxwell would be intersting where practise already arrived in public with current supercomputers	[20:49]
*	killinpablo has quit (Client Quit)	[20:49]
DeaDTerra	[19:49] Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.	[20:49]
gmaxwell	seco: hm?	[20:49]
easystevey	<------ Selling bitcoins	[20:50]
seco	DeaDTerra: so gpg is working on your commandline, right? Or did you create keypair with gui?	[20:50]
MindChild	DeaDTerra: if you did everything correctly, it may take a few minutes to discover the keyserver	[20:50]
DeaDTerra	I am using the GUI	[20:50]
DeaDTerra	Do I need to do something special to upload it to the server or is it enough to have it set as my ket server in the program?	[20:50]
pigeons	DeaDTerra: gpg --send-keys --keyserver subset.pool.sks-keyservers.net YOURKEYID	[20:51]
pigeons	as stated here: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication	[20:52]
*	hngryhngryhippo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[20:52]
DeaDTerra	okay I will try it again	[20:52]
*	Clonedead has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[20:52]
DeaDTerra	[19:53] (gpg eregister []) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key with . is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. Optional argument tells us where to get your public key. By default we look on pgp.mit.edu and pgp.surfnet.nl. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with (1 more message)	[20:53]
*	galaxy_27_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[20:53]
seco	gmaxwell: meant i did not follow how far brute force attacks went with cryptography attacks and for example this roadrunner from ibm	[20:53]
*	galaxy_27 (~galaxy@67.139.146.6) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:53]
MindChild	Youd have to really want to crack something to even try	[20:54]
galaxy_27	;;getrating	[20:54]
galaxy_27	;;getrating galaxy_27	[20:54]
MindChild	;;mov ax, 0;	[20:54]
galaxy_27	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[20:55]
gmaxwell	seco: the largest known factoring of an RSA number is 768 bits... and 1024 is enormously harder.	[20:55]
gmaxwell	(though much less than 2^256 times harder)	[20:55]
seco	DeaDTerra: i think its easier if you just export the public key with: gpg --armor --export your@mailadrees.you.used > mykey.asc	[20:56]
seco	then open mykey.asc and copy/paste it to http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/ at "Submit key" field	[20:56]
DeaDTerra	I don't know how to do it without the GUI	[20:57]
DeaDTerra	I am currently getting help from GlooBoy	[20:57]
seco	ah so maybe thats the reason why i only heard about 1024 but did not read any papers about it yet ;)	[20:57]
*	galaxy_27 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[20:57]
prime	Anyone want to be the First person in the US to buy a 3D printer with Bitcoin? I can make it happen...	[20:58]
blinkbat	prime: im in the uk... but im wondering, how much for?	[20:58]
vragnaroda	prime: I'm more interested in what you're selling. “3D printer” is rather vague.	[20:59]
prime	Its for the plastic parts to build a MendelMax printer. in USD it would be about $70	[20:59]
mircea_popescu	o look who's back	[20:59]
*	DeaDTerra___ (2ec2ba26@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.194.186.38) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[20:59]
pigeons	is it assembled? I've purchased Mendel parts for bitcoins a year ago	[20:59]
seco	DeaDTerra: gui should also have some function to export a public key; mostly in armored ascii by default	[20:59]
DeaDTerra___	Okay, I had to restart my computer	[21:00]
vragnaroda	Yeah, I don't think you can make the claim that you're the first to sell one in the U.s.	[21:00]
prime	I can assemble it if requested. I am getting new electronics and hardware in the next few weeks	[21:00]
vragnaroda	*U.S.	[21:00]
prime	I sold it to someone in canada, so i can	[21:00]
DeaDTerra___	but now the GPA should be installed	[21:00]
prime	First mendelmax parts anyways :)	[21:00]
seco	o_0 usually windows does not need restart for gpg processing :x	[21:00]
DeaDTerra___	glooboy could you keep guiding me?	[21:01]
LordCanti	seco, there was a partial cracking of 1024 but it involved a lot more than just computing power	[21:01]
DeaDTerra___	I had to reinstall it as I apperently needed GPA as well	[21:01]
pigeons	i sold a mcwire for bitcoins in the usa also	[21:01]
prime	This seller is selling the same types of parts http://www.ebay.com/itm/280855169579?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649#ht_500wt_1413	[21:01]
seco	but maybe i did not use windows for too long now :p	[21:01]
LordCanti	not a real world threat, someone here showed me the link	[21:01]
*	DeaDTerra has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[21:01]
LordCanti	they basically varied the voltage on the senders end during the encyption process which resulted in a partial/flawed encrpytion	[21:02]
LordCanti	which allowed them to piece together the info without the private key	[21:02]
LordCanti	something along the lines of that	[21:02]
seco	ah thanks LordCanti you supported my lazyness :)	[21:02]
DeaDTerra___	how do I open a private chat with someone?	[21:03]
seco	we google just too much nowadays :p	[21:03]
pigeons	DeaDTerra___: usually /query NICK	[21:03]
LordCanti	DeaDTerra___, most clients will give you the option if you right click on the name	[21:03]
*	mlinksva has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)	[21:04]
*	galaxy_27 (~galaxy@67.139.146.6) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:05]
*	mlinksva (~ml@adsl-76-200-170-147.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:06]
*	smart1985 (~smart1985@essn-5d839e40.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:06]
bigrhino	anyone selling btc for moneypak?	[21:06]
seco	so we are still at 768bit but with a bit luck and acceptable finite time we get single 1024bit rsa encrypted messages decrypted; still better to stick at 4096 ;)	[21:07]
galaxy_27	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[21:07]
seco	DeaDTerra___: when you giveup gui, start cmd.exe and leave me a note :)	[21:08]
DeaDTerra___	haha okay :P	[21:09]
seco	its a matter of 1 command to export public key; then opening it with notepad and copy/paste the content to webinterface of keyserver will also do it	[21:10]
*	seco stares at nanotube throwing some ecdsa reminder for bitcoin-otc towards him	[21:11]
*	hngryhngryhippo (~hngryhngr@129.174.97.34) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:12]
*	galaxy_27 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[21:13]
seco	usability means everyone should be able to hook up with his first generated address to gribble :)	[21:13]
*	gigavps (gigavps@rrcs-71-42-11-79.se.biz.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:14]
gigavps	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75578.0	[21:14]
*	paulo_ (~foo@112.204.81.23) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:14]
paulo_	;;ticker	[21:15]
*	galaxy_27 (~galaxy@67.139.146.6) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:15]
galaxy_27	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[21:16]
*	mlinksva has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[21:16]
prime	Im loving the divendens im getting from FPGA.contract	[21:17]
galaxy_27	;;gpg auth galaxy_27	[21:18]
prime	They have been around for a while right? Trustworthy?	[21:18]
*	giuly is now known as AnonymousDude	[21:18]
*	Duke_pro (~duke@77.232.6.18) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:19]
*	pookie_ (426c8d91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.108.141.145) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:19]
pigeons	prime: ;;getrating fizzisist	[21:20]
galaxy_27	;;gpg eauth galaxy_27	[21:20]
pookie_	;;guide	[21:20]
*	pookie_ (426c8d91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.108.141.145) has left #bitcoin-otc	[21:21]
*	gheorghe (gheorghe@178.156.176.41) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:22]
prime	getrating fizzisist	[21:22]
prime	get rating fizzisist	[21:23]
prime	I dont know what im doing....	[21:23]
gmaxwell	prime: the ;; is important.	[21:23]
prime	Oh, thanks	[21:23]
prime	;;getrating fizzisist	[21:23]
vragnaroda	;;ident prime	[21:23]
gribble	Nick 'prime', with hostmask 'prime!181468c5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.20.104.197', is not identified.	[21:23]
prime	I appreciate the correction. Im gonna use this allot.	[21:24]
pigeons	prime: fizzisist runs FPGA.contract	[21:25]
pigeons	;;getrating fizzisist	[21:25]
gribble	User fizzisist, created on Sun Sep 11 07:55:48 2011. Cumulative rating 11, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 9 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 12 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=fizzisist Currently not authenticated.	[21:25]
fizzisist	hey prime	[21:25]
prime	Oh, Looks good to me	[21:25]
fizzisist	yeah, i don't do a lot of otc trading	[21:25]
*	Ard1t has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[21:26]
prime	Hey! Thanks for the div's so far this week	[21:26]
fizzisist	you're very welcome, thanks for investing :)	[21:26]
prime	If you are serious about establishing a mining company, i know of a serious investor who is looking. Do you have a website with updates?	[21:27]
*	paulo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)	[21:27]
*	Ard1t (~shkodrani@unaffiliated/shkodrani) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:29]
*	mambahome_ (a9e57178@gateway/web/freenode/ip.169.229.113.120) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:31]
*	mambahome_ has quit (Client Quit)	[21:32]
*	hngryhngryhippo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[21:32]
*	mambahome_ (a9e57178@gateway/web/freenode/ip.169.229.113.120) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:32]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: lol, people are debating goat on the forums again now	[21:32]
Blitzboom	in 2 of his threads	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	perfect drama engine	[21:33]
Blitzboom	never ending drama, just because he refuses to deliver ID	[21:33]
*	x0Jakeyboy0x (4bb7a43c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.183.164.60) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:33]
*	mambahome has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[21:33]
Blitzboom	or something proving he is in thailand	[21:33]
x0Jakeyboy0x	Selling $25 dollar visa gift card	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	that i can see, you know ? i can understand why anyone'd not want to give some random schmuck on the internet id.	[21:33]
x0Jakeyboy0x	anyone interested?	[21:33]
*	bougyman is now known as Antidisestablesm	[21:34]
*	Antidisestablesm is now known as bougyman	[21:34]
Blitzboom	well, glbse’s owner is hardly a random schmuck	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	its precisely this admixture of sensible stuff with things outright copied from scammer handbook that gets people.	[21:34]
mambahome_	how to I change my nick?	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	type /nick mambahome_	[21:34]
*	mambahome_ is now known as mambahome	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	Blitzboom well... he's some guy that got detained by us imigration.	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	i think that's a decent definition for "random schmuck".	[21:35]
mambahome	thanks :)	[21:35]
Blitzboom	we’ll see what comes out of this	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	but that aside, i can understand people not wanting to give their id on the internet.	[21:35]
EvanR	what the hell	[21:35]
EvanR	who the fuck cares if hes in thailand?	[21:36]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: as long as they don’t collect thousands of BTC from investors, yeah	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	EvanR : its just he made a claim, doesn't matter what it was, ppl went prove it	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	and he went o wait omg you're trolling me etc.	[21:36]
pigeons	yeah i can understand not wanting to give it out, and i can understand wanting to see ID before investing	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	right pigeons, i can see both sides of that coin.	[21:36]
pigeons	i just want to see his shoes	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[21:36]
Blitzboom	hahahaha	[21:36]
EvanR	...	[21:37]
EvanR	ive claimed a lot of things and no one has once said prove it	[21:37]
EvanR	i do not understand	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	nobody cares about you mebbe ? :D	[21:37]
EvanR	>_>	[21:37]
Blitzboom	EvanR: do you collect thousands of BTC from people on GLBSE?	[21:37]
EvanR	so this is a case of everyone trolling one dude	[21:37]
EvanR	Blitzboom: ok	[21:37]
EvanR	so they are trading with him, makes sense	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	its more of a case of people getting edgy.	[21:37]
x0Jakeyboy0x	Selling $25 dollar visa gift card. Anyone interested?	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	shakuru fallout or whatever.	[21:38]
EvanR	shakuru?	[21:38]
Blitzboom	shakaru, yeah	[21:38]
Blitzboom	has thousands of BTC in debt which he can0t pay back	[21:39]
pigeons	EvanR: newsflash...it's turns out shakaru seems like a nice guy, but is a black hole for money	[21:39]
EvanR	thats how it goes	[21:39]
Blitzboom	free market~	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	nice guys should have to pay a premium to do business	[21:40]
EvanR	the legal system and the mafia have ways of making you pay, but it only works if you CAN pay	[21:40]
EvanR	dont invest more than you can afford to lose	[21:40]
*	hngryhngryhippo (~hngryhngr@129.174.97.34) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:40]
pigeons	past performance is not a guarantee of future results	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	i thought that was "don't marry more girls than you can afford to lose"	[21:40]
pigeons	this information is not to be constued as investment advice	[21:42]
*	merde has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[21:42]
EvanR	disclaimer: there aint no such thing as a free lunch	[21:42]
Blitzboom	there is	[21:42]
pigeons	warning: giving money to people on the internet or anywhere else may result in a loss of some or all of that money	[21:43]
EvanR	fool and his money are soon parted!	[21:43]
pigeons	a fool and his money are a girl's best friend	[21:44]
EvanR	lol	[21:44]
pigeons	I pity the fool	[21:45]
Blitzboom	so you are the gf?	[21:46]
grubles	lol	[21:47]
*	x0Jakeyboy0x has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[21:47]
*	gigavps (gigavps@rrcs-71-42-11-79.se.biz.rr.com) has left #bitcoin-otc	[21:47]
*	traviscj (~traviscj@c-24-13-84-115.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:49]
*	merde (~assdf@178.137.169.222) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:49]
galaxy_27	how to check rating?	[21:50]
*	Gnaffel (52ad54f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.173.84.243) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:51]
*	Gnaffel has quit (Client Quit)	[21:51]
*	draco49[afk] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)	[21:52]
DeaDTerra___	Yay	[21:52]
DeaDTerra___	almost done with OTC thingy	[21:52]
DeaDTerra___	finally got some help and now I am almost done	[21:52]
*	vraa has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)	[21:53]
seco	:)	[21:55]
seco	we are still not fully at the end, but yes at the last step trying again to use window gui couch	[21:56]
seco	eh cough*	[21:56]
galaxy_27	finally registered	[21:56]
*	imsaguy has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)	[21:57]
*	suriv has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[21:59]
*	suriv (~suriv@gateway/tor-sasl/suriv) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[21:59]
galaxy_27	;;info galaxy_27	[22:00]
seco	;;ident DeaDTerra___	[22:00]
gribble	Nick 'DeaDTerra___', with hostmask 'DeaDTerra___!2ec2ba26@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.194.186.38', is identified as user DeaDTerra, with GPG key id A66A3733FC94B88F, and key fingerprint 50D437162E449CAD98B9922AA66A3733FC94B88F.	[22:00]
galaxy_27	;;gpg info galaxy_27	[22:00]
gribble	User 'galaxy_27', with keyid 82108526ECC2490C and fingerprint 3F091E8D408C380C988EE4F282108526ECC2490C, registered on Thu Apr 5 10:02:24 2012. Currently authenticated from hostmask galaxy_27!~galaxy@67.139.146.6	[22:00]
DeaDTerra___	Yaym Fully registered	[22:00]
seco	Congrats DeaDTerra :)	[22:00]
DeaDTerra___	thank you very much for the help! hopefully this will help you guys to trust me	[22:00]
copumpkin	it'll help people know that other people trust you, if they do :)	[22:01]
*	roomservice has quit (Quit: Verlassend)	[22:02]
DeaDTerra___	okay so how do I now link to my OTC profile? in for example threads??	[22:02]
DeaDTerra___	? *	[22:02]
seco	i followed you on forums for a while now, if you send me another forum-message from your account there, id be happy to give you a +1 stating you are the DeaDTerra from bitcointalk.org :)	[22:02]
DeaDTerra___	Sure, I can do that :)	[22:03]
seco	yes you can add http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=DeaDTerra onto your signature	[22:03]
DeaDTerra___	could you link you bitcointalk account again please?	[22:03]
*	suriv (~suriv@gateway/tor-sasl/suriv) has left #bitcoin-otc	[22:04]
*	a5m0 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[22:04]
*	draco49[afk] (~draco49@unaffiliated/draco49) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:04]
seco	im on :)	[22:05]
*	a5m0 (~Arc@unaffiliated/a5m0) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:05]
*	bitcoinTrader (~Adium@49.249.133.25) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:07]
bitcoinTrader	;;seen bitfoo	[22:07]
*	Clipse has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[22:08]
*	andress (6cab69b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.171.105.179) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:08]
eastender	how do i pm gribble	[22:08]
*	DeaDTerra (~terragubb@c-2ec2ba26-74736162.cust.telenor.se) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:09]
*	DeaDTerra___ has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[22:10]
prime	So, is http://bidonbitcoins.com/ a scam?	[22:10]
prime	Seems like it is	[22:10]
DeaDTerra	How do I setup so that mIRC automatically auth me?	[22:10]
DeaDTerra	Currently looking for investors for GBF, for more info check this thread out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74975.0 if you have any questions please do ask :)	[22:12]
gmaxwell	prime: dollar auctions are dollar auctions	[22:12]
seco	;;rate DeaDTerra 1 I happily confirm 2way handshare between User DeaDTerra on bitcointalk.org and him being here: Followed your Investment fund for a while now and will happily invest some coins in you :-)	[22:12]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DeaDTerra has been recorded.	[22:12]
gmaxwell	prime: it's ... ... well. Is it right to call something a scam when it's fully disclosed and not very tricky?	[22:12]
seco	i like to deflower virgins :)	[22:12]
gmaxwell	prime: look up dollar auctions on wikipedia.	[22:13]
prime	Why would anyone trade a bitcoin for .5 btc?	[22:13]
gmaxwell	prime: because someone will then bid .6 btc.	[22:13]
prime	I know, google is my friend..... my only friend, and abbazabba	[22:13]
gmaxwell	prime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction	[22:13]
DeaDTerra	yay my first rating :D	[22:13]
prime	Im almost too stoned for learning new things. Im gonna try	[22:14]
seco	DeaDTerra: just download https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor/blob/master/GPG/helperscripts/bitcoin-otc-gpg-eauth-mirc.mrc into your mirc folder, and do a /load -rs bitcoin-otc-gpg-eauth-mirc.mrc	[22:14]
*	draco49[afk] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[22:15]
*	draco49[afk] (~draco49@unaffiliated/draco49) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:15]
DeaDTerra	I think I will deal with this tomorrow my brain is a bit fried after all of this :P will you be able to be here and help me with that tomorrow?	[22:15]
prime	So, i now understand dollar auctions	[22:15]
prime	TIL	[22:16]
bonks	seco: nice thx for that link	[22:16]
*	galaxy_27 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[22:16]
*	draco49[afk] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[22:16]
seco	im not shure i will be around, but here are a bunch of windows users here, who shurely know more about this plugin then me :)	[22:16]
*	gigavps (gigavps@rrcs-71-42-11-79.se.biz.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:16]
DeaDTerra	okay indeed :)	[22:17]
seco	just keep on buggin the chan until an answer pops out :D	[22:17]
DeaDTerra	I will look around and surely someone will be willing to help me xD	[22:17]
DeaDTerra	haha will do :P	[22:17]
DeaDTerra	thanks for the help real nice of you	[22:17]
*	mlinksva (~ml@sjc-static-208.57.244.8.mpowercom.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:17]
seco	you are welcome - everbody here has its excellences and weaknesses. It would make me very happy to find a good symbiosis :)	[22:19]
*	andress has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[22:19]
smickles	lol, 08:06 < BohemianHacks> Whats the legal side of using it? Do i need to be incorporated or can i still be a sole proprietorship?	[22:21]
smickles	^ RE: GLBSE	[22:22]
smickles	dude doesn't know what the definition of a sole proprietorship is	[22:22]
*	amiller`1240 has quit (Excess Flood)	[22:25]
bitcoinTrader	;;seen easye420	[22:25]
*	amiller (~socrates1@li175-104.members.linode.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:25]
*	kakobrekla (~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net) has left #bitcoin-otc	[22:25]
*	kakobrekla (~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:25]
*	gribble gives voice to kakobrekla	[22:25]
kakobrekla	thanks for the link seco :)	[22:26]
*	hngryhngryhippo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)	[22:26]
*	BohemianHacks (~chatzilla@108-95-126-135.lightspeed.mssnks.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:26]
*	amiller has quit (Excess Flood)	[22:27]
easystevey	selling bitcoins	[22:27]
smart1985	lending Bitcoind :D	[22:28]
*	dance4x (46ae0659@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.174.6.89) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:29]
seco	:)	[22:29]
dance4x	looking to sell 150 BTC by bank wire transfer	[22:29]
smart1985	use bitcoin.de for example	[22:30]
*	Loosey (4ce71341@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.231.19.65) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:30]
smart1985	there get you a little more	[22:30]
*	amiller (~socrates1@li175-104.members.linode.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:31]
ab37	Where can i get btc the cheapest with usd?	[22:32]
bitcoinTrader	;;getrating cal1fub3ralle5	[22:32]
smart1985	cheapest .D	[22:33]
EvanR	ab37: in person	[22:33]
ab37	yep	[22:33]
*	draco49[afk] (~draco49@unaffiliated/draco49) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:34]
ab37	;;ticker	[22:35]
gribble	Best bid: 4.90003, Best ask: 4.92, Bid-ask spread: 0.01997, Last trade: 4.92, 24 hour volume: 35917, 24 hour low: 4.87, 24 hour high: 4.93999	[22:35]
prime	here comes the crossing exponential averages.....	[22:35]
Blitzboom	bitcoin is stable now	[22:35]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: is this a problem for your business?	[22:35]
bitcoinTrader	;;seen Mad7Scientist	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	Blitzboom not that i can see ?	[22:36]
prime	bitcoin is very stable.	[22:36]
Blitzboom	it’s a problem for mtgox if it gets too stable	[22:36]
EvanR	im glad bitcoin has finally stabilized	[22:36]
Blitzboom	and speculative volume dries up	[22:36]
EvanR	tm	[22:36]
EvanR	now tomorrow it will jump by $1	[22:36]
smart1985	mtgox get a promotion and half the fee for a short time	[22:37]
prime	on a serious note, bitcoin has been on three major news papers lately and it takes about a week for people to get into bitcoin. I would expect a huge jump soon	[22:37]
*	cwlim (~chatzilla@14.4b.be.static.xlhost.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:37]
prime	If we only had an "IN" at dwolla	[22:37]
bonks	i cant wait to use a few mUTC to buy cofee	[22:37]
prime	could tell us when they are ramping up membership... :)	[22:37]
EvanR	dwolla is slow for everyone	[22:37]
EvanR	it does two ach in a row	[22:38]
smart1985	after them was traded more	[22:38]
EvanR	no one gets special treatment	[22:38]
bonks	anyone selling btc for bank deposit?	[22:38]
EvanR	shares in dwolla would be good, maybe	[22:38]
*	pierreghz (~pierre@97.180-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:38]
ab37	we should get bitcion on the major media networks	[22:39]
ab37	then there would be a huge spike	[22:39]
prime	It has been, lots of talk about the African Union using bitcoin	[22:39]
EvanR	it was already on cbs legal drama	[22:39]
EvanR	fuck african union	[22:40]
smart1985	yeah and the new message from Bullish bear	[22:40]
prime	We need some sucker to use bitcoin for helping the poor or homeless, that'll create a news story	[22:40]
ab37	yea but get it on faux news	[22:40]
rawrmage	ab37: a huge spike? http://i.imgur.com/ovoZr.png	[22:40]
smart1985	[11:55:41] smart990: Bitcoins made some upside progress last week but there is more buying needed to break above key resistances	[22:40]
smart1985	(5.15 – 5.2 $). In the meanwhile, the short term remains in a neutral bias which avoids too many false trading	[22:40]
smart1985	decisions.	[22:40]
smart1985	A rise above this level could lead to a huge rally with mid term targets of at least 32 $, if not even 100 $.	[22:40]
*	hngryhngryhippo (~hngryhngr@129.174.97.34) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:40]
ab37	even a bad publicity stunt would help	[22:40]
Blitzboom	we need new suckers, and we need them NOW https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45526.msg548271#msg548271	[22:40]
prime	We need to organize a small lobby.	[22:40]
rawrmage	smart1985: lul	[22:40]
ab37	it would be fun	[22:41]
ab37	for e at least	[22:41]
prime	We need an exchange that takes a small fee from trades and funds a lobby. When you can get tax refunds in bitcoin, we win	[22:42]
*	Cablesaurus has quit (Quit: Man who run behind car get exhausted)	[22:42]
prime	Im talking about 0.0001 btc or somthing	[22:42]
danieldaniel	So who has a youtube account list?	[22:42]
BohemianHacks	Anyone will to PM me about getting my business into GLBSE. Preferably someone with a company on there not just traders.	[22:43]
BohemianHacks	willing*	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	Blitzboom im guessing the price stability is only loosely correlated to people's need to insure against the future.	[22:43]
dance4x	where can i sell a mt gox redeem code?	[22:43]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: what do you think is responsible for this	[22:43]
danieldaniel	dance4x: what do you want for it?	[22:44]
dance4x	usd direct bank deposit	[22:44]
mircea_popescu	this = ?	[22:44]
dance4x	or anything that can be redeemed today or tomorrow	[22:44]
danieldaniel	Im guessing no paypal? :)	[22:44]
dance4x	paypal would take too long otherwise i would	[22:45]
danieldaniel	You mean to transfer to your bank?	[22:45]
dance4x	id have to withdraw to my bank account which takes 3 days or so	[22:45]
dance4x	yeah	[22:45]
danieldaniel	Yeah, it takes a long time	[22:45]
dance4x	would you only be able to do paypal?	[22:46]
danieldaniel	How much are you looking for?	[22:46]
danieldaniel	No, I can do other stuff	[22:46]
Blitzboom	mircea_popescu: this stability	[22:46]
dance4x	i have a $732 redeem code	[22:46]
prime	I remember when bitcoin was at $30. took a week for people interested to get in the market (on average) and by the time they did, it was $17, then you know the rest....	[22:46]
*	draco49[afk] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[22:46]
danieldaniel	Oh, I don't want that much :)	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	Blitzboom i'd say is the result of a partly conventional partly natural agreement of the large btc holders to stop selling for now.	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	displays that the market is pretty much mining-stable	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	(as in, money pouring in = money miners need for bills + similar expenses of the system)	[22:47]
Blitzboom	The Great Bitcoin Stability	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	its an important point tho.	[22:47]
Blitzboom	Feb-April	[22:48]
pigeons	yes because we're all gonna start selling like crazy again if you fools bid it up to $30	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	might stretch into may.	[22:48]
prime	A whole bunch on Canadians just learned about digital currency. They will come.....	[22:48]
Blitzboom	pigeons: you sold @30 last time?	[22:48]
pigeons	Blitzboom: I sold at $30, but then I also sold at .002	[22:49]
Blitzboom	nice	[22:49]
Blitzboom	have you signed the Pact for The Great Bitcoin Stability too?	[22:49]
*	DBordello (~DB@unaffiliated/dbordello) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:49]
mircea_popescu	obviously if price goes too high people will sell some.	[22:49]
prime	I was in a coma during that time, would have made $550k if i was awake	[22:50]
pigeons	You must be the only one who hasn't signed Blitzboom	[22:50]
prime	just kidding, i am full of shit :)	[22:50]
Cusipzzz	i, for one, welcome our stable bitcoin overlords	[22:50]
LordCanti	long term stability makes it more viable for commerce	[22:51]
prime	Stability make people looking to stowe away money interested.	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	first we take manhattan then we take berlin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnCR8kSSmqw	[22:51]
DBordello	wow, look at the chart right now. It is just so stable	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	truth be told one of the last jabs people used against btc was that "it's unstable"	[22:51]
*	dance4x has quit (Quit: Page closed)	[22:51]
prime	This chart? http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg1zigHourlyztgSza1gEMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g25zv	[22:51]
*	fridgee6 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[22:51]
pigeons	when you say that DBordello, it's like saying, "wow a big red button no one is pushing!"	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	he'd need a pretty big hammer...	[22:52]
DBordello	pigeons, that sounds fine to me	[22:52]
DBordello	depending which way the red button pushes thing	[22:52]
Blitzboom	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#igWeeklyztgSzm1g10zm2g25zxzi1gVolzl	[22:52]
Blitzboom	this chart	[22:52]
Blitzboom	been stable for weeks	[22:52]
Blitzboom	months	[22:52]
prime	Years?	[22:53]
Blitzboom	not yet	[22:53]
prime	Here's to a digital future! *raises bong	[22:53]
Blitzboom	actually i bought some physical BTC recently	[22:53]
*	diddum (~diddum@e178028158.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:53]
Blitzboom	pretty nice	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	over 9000 hours!!!	[22:53]
prime	I almost bought some bitbills, then i saw they were sold out	[22:54]
Blitzboom	casascius coins	[22:54]
prime	He is an innovator	[22:55]
*	DBordello has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[22:55]
*	vraa (~vraa@c-76-30-135-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:56]
*	toffoo (~tof@189.60.34.81) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[22:57]
*	area (~area@cpc1-colc2-0-0-cust385.7-4.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:04]
*	draco49[afk] (~draco49@unaffiliated/draco49) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:04]
*	area has quit (Changing host)	[23:04]
*	area (~area@unaffiliated/area) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:04]
*	traviscj has quit (Remote host closed the connection)	[23:05]
*	DeaDTerra has quit ()	[23:05]
*	mambahome has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)	[23:06]
*	fcorneli (~fcorneli@d51A4A89F.access.telenet.be) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:09]
*	Ard1t has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[23:09]
EvanR	prime: i have some, where the fuck is he i want more	[23:12]
EvanR	demand is not being met over here!	[23:12]
prime	Its a conspiracy	[23:12]
rawrmage	EvanR: are bitbills addictive? D:	[23:12]
copumpkin	prime: are you a number or a steak?	[23:12]
prime	Really, bitcoin was invented by north korea to get past embargoes and blockades	[23:13]
EvanR	need to learn to read QR codes by hand in case of apocalypse	[23:13]
prime	Steak? I only care about money...	[23:13]
EvanR	'invented by north korea' is lol in any context	[23:13]
prime	:)	[23:13]
*	jamdunguy (b8aa2059@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.170.32.89) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:14]
jamdunguy	;;ident jamdunguy	[23:14]
*	Ard1t (~shkodrani@unaffiliated/shkodrani) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:14]
prime	Like GLBSE's new color scheme	[23:15]
prime	"Volume@price" text is blue. woohoo	[23:15]
*	draco49[afk] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[23:16]
copumpkin	prime: so you only carry prime numbers of money, I assume?	[23:17]
prime	Short for Awesomous_Prime	[23:17]
EvanR	yeah copumpkin divisors are identified with thieves	[23:17]
copumpkin	as such, the 500k you mentioned is actually $500,009	[23:18]
copumpkin	cause $500,000 isn't prime	[23:18]
copumpkin	or perhaps it was $499,979	[23:18]
*	rokj has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[23:18]
prime	Its allot of money to me anyways	[23:18]
copumpkin	add $9 and it's even more money!	[23:18]
copumpkin	unfortunately, if you take $21 off of it, it's less money :(	[23:19]
*	copumpkin is so deep	[23:19]
*	rikurr is now known as rikur	[23:19]
prime	Im hoping i can get a finders fee from it. :)	[23:19]
copumpkin	sounds reasonable	[23:20]
prime	Long shot though , try and convince someone who knows almost nothing about bitcoin to store that kind of money.	[23:20]
copumpkin	100 grand will get you about 150 ghash from bfl, so you can get .75 thash for that money (if you can get them to manufacture them quickly enough)	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	big if right there.	[23:22]
prime	How can raspberry pi help?	[23:23]
rg	;;ticker	[23:23]
gribble	Best bid: 4.89921, Best ask: 4.9198, Bid-ask spread: 0.02059, Last trade: 4.89917, 24 hour volume: 34898, 24 hour low: 4.87, 24 hour high: 4.9399	[23:23]
copumpkin	prime: what does raspberry pi have to do with it?	[23:23]
rg	;;asks 5	[23:23]
gribble	There are currently 19458.195 bitcoins offered at or under 5.0 USD, worth 96586.0160713 USD in total.	[23:23]
prime	Its a $25 computer. can it be used for mining if attached to external pci-e video cards?	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	yes i think some miners have managed to use it for mining	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	then again the new bfls go like 100 + on usbs to the same mobo, so	[23:24]
mircea_popescu	minor point	[23:24]
rg	no	[23:26]
jcpham	can we do a bitcoin meet at http://www.pinkponypub.net/	[23:26]
rg	rasbery pi is not x86	[23:26]
rg	the drivers for video cards are x86 or x86_64	[23:26]
rg	not ARM	[23:26]
rg	so no, you cant use a rasberry pi to mine (efficiently)	[23:26]
pigeons	the video driver for rasberry pi is a binary blob	[23:26]
*	traviscj (~traviscj@wireless-165-124-208-88.nuwlan.northwestern.edu) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:26]
prime	That my friend, is why you make the big bucks....	[23:27]
*	rg is below the legal poverty level	[23:28]
pigeons	but you are rich in friendships..oh, nevermind	[23:29]
copumpkin	prime: what do you do?	[23:29]
*	pierreghz has quit (Quit: leaving)	[23:31]
prime	Unicorn Hunter, Im immortal until they are all dead....	[23:31]
copumpkin	oh nice	[23:31]
copumpkin	that sounds like an unconventional job	[23:31]
pigeons	any color unicorns?	[23:31]
prime	I will Disclose who i am and what i do eventually. I truly believe that needs to be in fashion anyways if bitcoin is going to be adopted.	[23:33]
prime	In true southern fashion	[23:33]
mircea_popescu	prime : you mean sorta like i do ?	[23:33]
EvanR	southern fashion?	[23:33]
*	ineededausername (6ca9906a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.169.144.106) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:33]
*	draco49[afk] (~draco49@unaffiliated/draco49) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:34]
prime	With a white coat, goatee and a hat	[23:34]
prime	*cane and eye piece	[23:34]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: wait wait	[23:34]
copumpkin	I knew your name at some point	[23:34]
*	mircea_popescu waits	[23:35]
copumpkin	but I can't remember it right now	[23:35]
copumpkin	it began with an M, right?	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	Alphonse	[23:35]
copumpkin	damn!	[23:35]
copumpkin	I knew I was close	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:35]
*	gigavps (gigavps@rrcs-71-42-11-79.se.biz.rr.com) has left #bitcoin-otc	[23:40]
mircea_popescu	ineededausername : how about Alphonse ? it's a pretty good username...	[23:40]
mircea_popescu	very slightly used, certain air of refinement about it...	[23:40]
ineededausername	Alphonsee, huh	[23:40]
ineededausername	nah	[23:41]
ineededausername	i think "DBorledo" is better	[23:41]
ineededausername	;)	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	well then... hm. Jojo Longname ?	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:41]
BohemianHacks	are there any non-mining companies on GLBSE?	[23:41]
prime	yes	[23:41]
prime	mu	[23:41]
prime	i think	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	BohemianHacks there's for instance mpoe.etf, an etf.	[23:41]
ineededausername	there's a failed ponzi, a failed investment fund	[23:41]
prime	not sure how they make money though	[23:41]
pigeons	yes there is a retired race horse	[23:41]
ineededausername	oh, and a retired race horse	[23:42]
ineededausername	haha	[23:42]
mircea_popescu	pigeons no way, the filly retired ?	[23:42]
pigeons	mircea_popescu: i don't know, it sounds better that way, who cares about the truth here?	[23:42]
*	ponymage (rawrmage@dashify.org) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:42]
mircea_popescu	omg you can't handle the truth salutes	[23:42]
Blitzboom	how come i always read about ponzi and scams	[23:42]
mircea_popescu	cause it's what the general populace imagines "investment" is.	[23:43]
prime	bitcoin is in the wild west phase. Nobody trusts anyone because nobody knows anyone	[23:43]
Blitzboom	it’s gotten a lot better	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	it has.	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	by the time it'll be the age of my cognac it will be comparably good!	[23:44]
Blitzboom	today, i doubt anyone would put bitcoins into an anonymous mybitcoin	[23:44]
ponymage	pony	[23:45]
pigeons	EvanR: how far are you from Carencro, LA? You can check on our horse	[23:45]
pigeons	Blitzboom: you are too positive	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	i second that.	[23:45]
Blitzboom	ok, there will still be scams	[23:46]
BohemianHacks	so what is ETF?	[23:46]
*	___99percent___ (~99percent@pool-74-110-17-30.bflony.east.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:46]
Blitzboom	but probably no more of this magnitude	[23:46]
*	Orion-Hax (~Orion-Hax@c-75-73-204-118.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	do you count shakaru ?	[23:46]
Blitzboom	shakaru is small	[23:46]
*	draco49[afk] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)	[23:46]
Blitzboom	mybitcoin stole something like 50k	[23:46]
pigeons	or had it stolen from them	[23:47]
pigeons	http://www.evansracingllc.com/Stable_News.html	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	i imagine in absolute terms that may be the peak, ya.	[23:48]
pigeons	looks like the horse had a good workout last week	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	3-31-12	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	Satoshi's Daemon breezed three furlongs this morning in :38.20 over a track rated good at Fair Grounds Race Course. Her time earned her the bullet work of the day for three furlongs, as she covered the distance the fastest of the eight horses who worked today. She worked very good without company and should continue to improve after today's work.	[23:48]
rawrmage	lol	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	i saw her once in a vid, looked like a healthy, well tempered young gal.	[23:48]
EvanR	yeah	[23:49]
EvanR	satoshi is spending his wealth	[23:49]
EvanR	conspiciously	[23:49]
rawrmage	so do people call her bitcoind	[23:49]
prime	lost 5 btc myself	[23:49]
*	__99percent__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[23:49]
prime	got 2.5 back	[23:49]
*	maqr (~maqr@httpcraft/hax) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:50]
prime	Is blockchain safe?	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	safe ?	[23:50]
rawrmage	safe?	[23:50]
Blitzboom	safeSincerely,	[23:51]
Blitzboom	Tom Williams	[23:51]
rawrmage	safe sex	[23:51]
EvanR	unsafeInvestInBitcoins	[23:51]
EvanR	:: IO ()	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	Uma tragédia chocou os moradores de Rubiataba, interior do Goiás. Um adolescente de 16 anos morreu após se masturbar 42 vezes sem parar.	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	apparently its not safe.	[23:51]
EvanR	:: LifeSavings -> Either Fortune BackruptcyAndYourFamilyLeavesYou	[23:52]
*	grepix (~grepix@c-68-55-68-18.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc	[23:52]
EvanR	er forgot the IO	[23:52]
EvanR	copumpkin back me up	[23:52]
prime	Brain Splodes	[23:52]
copumpkin	I agree with EvanR, whatever he says	[23:52]
copumpkin	especialy about guns and government	[23:52]
EvanR	its not about guns, guns represent something purer in form that people dont get	[23:53]
prime	Whats the word on Tygrr-bot?	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	sorta like dumbed down dildoes ?	[23:53]
EvanR	used to be swords	[23:53]
copumpkin	prime: I wouldn't invest in automated trading right now	[23:53]
copumpkin	in fact, I didn't	[23:54]
prime	been following threads, what do you really think	[23:54]
*	gagecolton has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)	[23:54]
copumpkin	I just don't think there's enough money in cross-exchange arbitrage to make it worth it. The best opportunities are between mtgox and btc-e and they're rarely very big	[23:55]
copumpkin	but who knows :)	[23:55]
*	bitcoinTrader has quit (Quit: Leaving.)	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	im of the same mind.	[23:55]
SerajewelKS	she hands me her cell phone, says it's my dad. maaaaaaan, this ain't my dad. this is a cell phone.	[23:57]
zveda	happy birthday to the ground!	[23:58]
*	fcorneli has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[23:58]
prime	Is Goat here?	[23:58]
EvanR	copumpkin: its like tips	[23:58]
SerajewelKS	zveda: welcome to the real world, jackass!	[23:58]
SerajewelKS	I'M AN ADULT	[23:58]
EvanR	the one rich dude who comes in per month makes it all worth it	[23:58]
zveda	=D	[23:58]
copumpkin	prime: he was until earlier	[23:58]
pigeons	prime: he was here a few hours ago, had a spirited discussion	[23:59]
copumpkin	prime: when he is, he's called Chaang-Noi	[23:59]
zveda	man why is everybody talking about money in here all the time..	[23:59]
zveda	money this money that	[23:59]
copumpkin	not at all	[23:59]
prime	Ok, whats his story? I want to give him an opportunity to redeem himself after the whole ID fiasco...	[23:59]

« Forum logs for 04 Apr 2012

Forum logs for 06 Apr 2012 »

Category: Logs

Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.

Add your cents! »

If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.

Forum logs for 05 Apr 2012

Recent Comments

Recent Articles

Pages

Say NO! to platforms