Forum logs for 04 Oct 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1099 = 0.5495 BTC [-] | [00:00] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [+] | [00:02] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [+] | [00:07] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.07065001 = 0.212 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07065 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | [Local Rules : Anyone can post in this thread, even people who are confused over their gender, can't do basic math, view failure as doing well and in general lack any idea of how to run a business] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 25 @ 0.0706 = 1.765 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06802 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 19 @ 0.068 = 1.292 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06412 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.06404 = 0.1281 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.06402 = 0.128 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06381 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06379 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06377 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.06202 = 0.3101 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.062003 = 0.124 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 23 @ 0.062 = 1.426 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06199999 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.06132 = 0.2453 BTC [-] | [00:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 20 @ 0.0613 = 1.226 BTC [-] | [00:10] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.061201 BTC [-] | [00:10] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 20 @ 0.06112 = 1.2224 BTC [-] | [00:10] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 67 @ 0.0611 = 4.0937 BTC [-] | [00:10] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 74 @ 0.1099 = 8.1326 BTC [-] | [00:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4100 @ 0.00045477 = 1.8646 BTC [+] | [00:15] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [BTCS] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [-] | [00:17] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.11 = 3.96 BTC [+] | [00:18] |
kakobrekla | ;;ticker | [00:18] |
gribble | Best bid: 12.9001, Best ask: 12.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.04990, Last trade: 12.95, 24 hour volume: 33803, 24 hour low: 12.661, 24 hour high: 12.989 | [00:18] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 8 @ 0.21089997 = 1.6872 BTC [+] | [00:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.3369956 = 336.9956 BTC [+] | [00:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 700 @ 0.40587623 = 284.1134 BTC [+] | [00:22] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [JAH] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [+] | [00:22] |
* | jcpham is now known as danieldaniel | [00:22] |
* | danieldaniel is now known as jcpham | [00:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 250 @ 0.48215323 = 120.5383 BTC [+] | [00:22] |
OneEyed | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-g2iGskFPE | [00:23] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [JAH] 5 @ 0.10001 = 0.5001 BTC [-] | [00:23] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [JAH] 64 @ 0.100001 = 6.4001 BTC [-] | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | gold is a horrible standard. | [00:27] |
OneEyed | Yes. Bitcoin could replace it, that's why I shared this | [00:32] |
mircea_popescu | you saw what happened to diamonds recently ? | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | i mean gold. one day someone finds a three by four by five kilometer gold rock under a sea somewhere and that's that. | [00:34] |
* | Ignatius-otc goes long sea exploration | [00:36] |
Ignatius-otc | http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121002150031.htm Superman-Strength Bacteria Produce 24-Karat Gold | [00:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00036152 = 4.9528 BTC [-] | [00:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11722 @ 0.00036159 = 4.2386 BTC [+] | [00:47] |
kakobrekla | short it on bit4x :p | [00:50] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 20 @ 0.25 = 5 BTC | [00:56] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:57] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 1 @ 0.25 BTC | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of scams : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115304.msg1243061 | [00:57] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.21089997 BTC [+] | [00:57] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00339 = 0.017 BTC [+] | [01:02] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.00339 = 0.1695 BTC [+] | [01:04] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.00339 = 0.0407 BTC [+] | [01:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07699989 = 0.154 BTC [+] | [01:11] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18717 @ 0.00036048 = 6.7471 BTC [-] | [01:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14478 @ 0.00035922 = 5.2008 BTC [-] | [01:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0034007 = 3.4007 BTC [-] | [01:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 7500 @ 0.0034007 = 25.5053 BTC [-] | [01:27] |
* | jurov is now known as jurov|away | [01:28] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.21089998 = 0.4218 BTC [+] | [01:31] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.21089999 BTC [+] | [01:31] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.2163 BTC [+] | [01:31] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [-] | [01:40] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BBBB] 1 @ 0.00016 BTC [+] | [01:41] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BMMO] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [+] | [01:44] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4525006 BTC [-] | [01:45] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 8 @ 0.45250059 = 3.62 BTC [-] | [01:45] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.45240059 BTC [-] | [01:45] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.56619996 = 1.1324 BTC [+] | [01:45] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.21089997 = 1.0545 BTC [-] | [01:46] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 4 @ 0.45250061 = 1.81 BTC [+] | [01:46] |
dub | Milk is murder! | [01:46] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [007] 4 @ 0.081 = 0.324 BTC [-] | [01:47] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [007] 10 @ 0.0808 = 0.808 BTC [-] | [01:47] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [007] 7 @ 0.08051 = 0.5636 BTC [-] | [01:47] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.0748899 BTC [+] | [01:47] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.06945 BTC [+] | [01:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.0695 = 0.139 BTC [+] | [01:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.0699 = 0.1398 BTC [+] | [01:48] |
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kakobrekla | whats with this milk thingy | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | lol dub | [01:49] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla it's a btcmeme. | [01:49] |
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kakobrekla | semms like im out of the loop | [01:50] |
kakobrekla | seems | [01:50] |
smickles | ;;seen nefario | [01:50] |
gribble | nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: |
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smickles | :o | [01:50] |
mircea_popescu | the noob flashed in/out to reset the counter | [01:50] |
mircea_popescu | but forgot to say anything | [01:50] |
kakobrekla | lol | [01:51] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla it's a funny usagi post where he says "milk is scammer" | [01:51] |
Diablo-D3 | MILK IS SCAMMER?! | [01:51] |
Diablo-D3 | BUT WHAT GOES GOOD WITH SANDVICH | [01:51] |
Diablo-D3 | OM NOM NOM NOM NOM | [01:51] |
Diablo-D3 | you are now reading everything I say in Heavy's voice. | [01:52] |
mircea_popescu | i dont even know who heavy is | [01:52] |
Diablo-D3 | too bad, I imagine I broke a lot of people's brains | [01:52] |
mircea_popescu | you know most people with a degree don't verbalise what they read | [01:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2157 @ 0.00045477 = 0.9809 BTC [+] | [01:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 472 @ 0.00045477 = 0.2147 BTC [+] | [01:53] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: its the meme effect | [01:53] |
Diablo-D3 | same way if I go | [01:53] |
Diablo-D3 | GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I INVENTED A MACHINE THAT MAKES YOU READ THIS IN MY VOICE! | [01:53] |
Azelphur | I havn't heard your voice | [01:53] |
mircea_popescu | he's prolly all whiny and geek-sounding | [01:55] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.1091 = 3.9276 BTC [-] | [01:55] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 64 @ 0.109 = 6.976 BTC [-] | [01:55] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: No, I pretty much sound like you'd think Satan would sound like. | [01:56] |
mircea_popescu | that's it then | [01:56] |
mircea_popescu | i always thought satan sounds like a girl | [01:56] |
Diablo-D3 | Smoovious: oh thop it! | [01:56] |
Diablo-D3 | nope, I'm more like a white samuel l jackson | [01:57] |
kakobrekla | yes, milk. it is funny. | [01:58] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla :p | [01:58] |
kakobrekla | i am not milk. | [01:58] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 make me a vid saying trilema is great then | [01:59] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: uh, no? | [01:59] |
Diablo-D3 | dont have a camera anyhow | [01:59] |
kakobrekla | then say trilema is bad | [01:59] |
kakobrekla | you dont have a smartphone? | [01:59] |
mircea_popescu | well the phone he has... | [02:00] |
Diablo-D3 | kakobrekla: no, dont have a cell phone at all | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://i.imgur.com/bTGmi.png this is possibly the most retarded thing ever. | [02:00] |
kakobrekla | no cell phone | [02:00] |
kakobrekla | no camera | [02:00] |
kakobrekla | no mic | [02:00] |
kakobrekla | shut off lcd. | [02:00] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: ARGH BRAIN HURT | [02:01] |
mircea_popescu | i didn't know anyone could be this stupid | [02:01] |
mircea_popescu | "let's give people arbitrary numbers of currency they can spend, this way they are invested" | [02:01] |
Diablo-D3 | holy fuck its in my brain killing my brain cells | [02:02] |
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mircea_popescu | "unlike the evil bitcoin people, who aren't invested, even tho they work for it and can spend it" | [02:02] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: wait | [02:02] |
Diablo-D3 | [07:01:59] |
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Diablo-D3 | isnt that basically the federal reserve way of banking? | [02:02] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [02:02] |
mircea_popescu | solidcoin noob has made a fiat blockchain | [02:02] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 67 @ 0.003205 = 0.2147 BTC [-] | [02:05] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003201 = 0.1601 BTC [-] | [02:05] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 343 @ 0.0032 = 1.0976 BTC [-] | [02:05] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+] | [02:17] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 3 @ 0.00999998 = 0.03 BTC [+] | [02:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5540 @ 0.00045476 = 2.5194 BTC [-] | [02:18] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [SILVER] 20 @ 0.00999999 = 0.2 BTC [+] | [02:23] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GOLD] 20 @ 0.00999999 = 0.2 BTC [+] | [02:24] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [CBGB] 6 @ 0.48 = 2.88 BTC [-] | [02:25] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+] | [02:25] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 20 @ 0.00999999 = 0.2 BTC [+] | [02:27] |
smickles | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.msg1243305#msg1243305 | [02:27] |
smickles | an important announcement | [02:27] |
smickles | re MPOE.ETF | [02:27] |
smickles | and i'd just like to point out that it ipo'd at .1 and will buy back all shares at 1.29ish. with dividends all along the way, I believe it was quite possibly the best thing on GLBSE | [02:29] |
mircea_popescu | o hey. | [02:29] |
kakobrekla | yup | [02:30] |
kakobrekla | too bad we didnt throw millions | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | lol peopel didn't really invest a lot in the good stuff, did they. | [02:30] |
kakobrekla | nope | [02:30] |
kakobrekla | seems scams are most popular | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | awell. | [02:30] |
BTC-Mining | So... I'll have to do all the passthroughs on GLBSE now? | [02:30] |
BTC-Mining | Seems all ops are closing down. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining last in turns off the lights | [02:31] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 1 @ 0.25 BTC | [02:32] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 0.99999999 BTC [+] | [02:33] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+] | [02:33] |
smickles | jees, not to mention the usd/btc rate went up ~150% during its operation | [02:34] |
mircea_popescu | now you're starting usagitalk. | [02:35] |
smickles | ;) | [02:35] |
smickles | i read that too :D | [02:35] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] | [02:37] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.019 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [CPA] 5 @ 0.017 = 0.085 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [CPA] 9 @ 0.01502 = 0.1352 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [CPA] 9 @ 0.01404 = 0.1264 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [CPA] 36 @ 0.014 = 0.504 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] | [02:38] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] | [02:38] |
Diablo-D3 | smickles, mircea_popescu: I think the problem is this | [02:40] |
Diablo-D3 | bitcoin sucks. | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | smickles so you actually have a 1k or w/e wall up ? | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | like, biggest wall in history of glbse ? | [02:40] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: i'm about to request the withdrawal from mpex to glbse, so the wall will be up in due course ;) | [02:42] |
BTC-Mining | When do you buy back? | [02:42] |
* | mircea_popescu fails to process it, locks smickles accounts, gives him codes | [02:43] |
smickles | i'll start as soon as the funds gets there | [02:43] |
smickles | so judging from mircea_popescu's last statement, never | [02:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00036132 = 12.1765 BTC [+] | [02:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00036159 = 11.6794 BTC [+] | [02:43] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: thats not even funny dude | [02:43] |
smickles | :D | [02:43] |
mircea_popescu | :D | [02:43] |
mircea_popescu | smickles : 1284; 3488; 9501; 449x | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | 6674 | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | 19 | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | this concludes our legal obligations together. | [02:44] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 21 @ 1 = 21 BTC [+] | [02:45] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+] | [02:45] |
mircea_popescu | lol ppl locking in a quick 20% | [02:45] |
smickles | damn, if i had no ethics, those woul've been mine | [02:45] |
Ignatius-otc | seemed like a smart move, too bad about that code only thing;) | [02:45] |
mircea_popescu | :D | [02:46] |
smickles | anyway, glbse gave me a badass deposit addy | [02:47] |
smickles | 1Birt5ACuc72jCa4FmwSazyn6jBhvrEHvR | [02:47] |
smickles | i read it as 1 birt ever | [02:47] |
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smickles | or birtsac | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | smickles : stop libeling my exchange or else you will be banned! | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | also, local thread rules. | [02:49] |
smickles | is slander ok? | [02:49] |
smickles | lol | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | .wik slander | [02:49] |
markac | "Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slander | [02:49] |
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mircea_popescu | no dude its not ok wtf | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | o also | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | i think now | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | i have to | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | talk like | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | nefario | [02:49] |
BTC-Mining | I don't have much ethics I guess then. I buy my own issue when I see orders too low. | [02:49] |
smickles | BTC-Mining: it's only bad if you do it with non-public knowledge in mind | [02:50] |
BTC-Mining | I avoid that. | [02:50] |
BTC-Mining | Although... I operated a fixed interest loan, and BTC-MINING for which nothing ever happens. | [02:50] |
smickles | so buying below a known book value is a-ok | [02:50] |
mircea_popescu | smickles your book values were pretty well established | [02:51] |
BTC-Mining | Wait, was the 1.29ish purchase announced on the forum already? | [02:51] |
smickles | yup | [02:51] |
smickles | but it's proper to wait a significant amount of time | [02:52] |
BTC-Mining | Great. Unfortunatly you'd probably have to wait a bit to buy. Not instantly. | [02:52] |
BTC-Mining | Or that's still unfair | [02:52] |
smickles | and i've secretly known about it since the 1st | [02:52] |
BTC-Mining | Aye | [02:52] |
mircea_popescu | why's it unfair ? | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | there's no bids lol, the spread is .3 2.0 | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker mpoe.etf | [02:53] |
assbot | [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 0.50000001] [Ask: 1.26383449] [Spread: 0.76383448] [Last: 1.2] [24hVol: 30.59999999] [7dAvg: 1.02857142] | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | o lol nm | [02:53] |
BTC-Mining | Because if you announce something then buy 5 seconds afterward, nobody saw the news | [02:53] |
smickles | i could've had bids in based of of the previous month's financials | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining still, there was a gap the size of alaska. | [02:54] |
mircea_popescu | and he'd have bid in the gap | [02:54] |
mircea_popescu | 48 1.26383449 | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | 64 2.0 | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | vs | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | 2 0.50000001 | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | 180 0.5 | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | 1 0.31 | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | 17 0.3 | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | etc | [02:55] |
smickles | well, in my defense, i was otherwise occupied | [02:57] |
smickles | oh, mircea_popescu it's not going to be a 1k wall because there's about 650 shares of treasure stock atm | [03:00] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-] | [03:05] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 5 @ 0.02 = 0.1 BTC [+] | [03:06] |
mircea_popescu | .py 650 *1.26 | [03:06] |
markac | 819.0 | [03:06] |
mircea_popescu | so 820 k | [03:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00036051 = 1.9107 BTC [-] | [03:08] |
dub | neat http://pastebin.com/PfXUm3VQ | [03:09] |
mircea_popescu | hahaah | [03:10] |
Ignatius-otc | very nice dub | [03:12] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: you got it a bit backwards | [03:13] |
smickles | 650ish shares of _treasury_ stock (the stuff that doesn't get bought back b/c it's already in company hands) | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | ooo | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | so whats float, 500ish ? | [03:16] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: 452 | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | a ok so like 500 | [03:17] |
Garr255 | !ticker COGNITIVE | [03:18] |
smickles | 571.25319803 | [03:18] |
mircea_popescu | "Usagi should be viewed as a case study regarding what happens when a person with nearly zero knowledge of finance and business tries to manage a venture" | [03:18] |
assbot | [GLBSE:COGNITIVE] [Bid: 0.5751] [Ask: 0.57915996] [Spread: 0.00405996] [Last: 0.57979] [24hVol: 20.02079491] [7dAvg: 0.4837692] | [03:18] |
mircea_popescu | yup. | [03:18] |
kakobrekla | damn i fail | [03:19] |
smickles | kakobrekla: how is your forex thing going? did you launch yet? | [03:19] |
kakobrekla | yea, its lauched. | [03:20] |
kakobrekla | people seem to think im milk! | [03:20] |
smickles | well, when I read what you planned to do, it was a little confusing | [03:21] |
kakobrekla | as for self fail i was thinking about this | [03:21] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102176.msg1243398#msg1243398 | [03:21] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.0099879 = 0.0999 BTC [-] | [03:21] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.009988 = 0.0599 BTC [+] | [03:21] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.00999 = 0.2997 BTC [+] | [03:21] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+] | [03:21] |
smickles | damn kako, way 2 fail | [03:21] |
kakobrekla | ya | [03:21] |
kakobrekla | smickles well is it clear now or still confusing? | [03:22] |
mircea_popescu | milk! | [03:23] |
smickles | kakobrekla: i think i get it, but I wouldn't say I'm confident in my understanding. | [03:25] |
mircea_popescu | smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115304.0 | [03:25] |
smickles | for one thing, i've never traded traditional forex before, so that's one degree of separation ;) | [03:25] |
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dub | Milk killed MJ! | [03:26] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74975.msg1243259#msg1243259 o,o pitchfork team assembling at ludwig's gate. | [03:26] |
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dub | GIPPT was a hilariously bad name for an asset | [03:30] |
dub | Invest and get GYPPED | [03:30] |
* | smickles checks glbse for btc | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | no mony for y | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | come back, 1 year! | [03:31] |
dub | chinese antique dealer stole | [03:32] |
dub | but I talk to him and he pay back | [03:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6905 @ 0.00036159 = 2.4968 BTC [+] | [03:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16961 @ 0.00036238 = 6.1463 BTC [+] | [03:33] |
smickles | !pl mpoe.etf .1 | [03:38] |
assbot | Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). | [03:38] |
assbot | MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.02470282 BTC. Last price: 1.2 BTC. Capital gain: 1.1 BTC. Total: 1.12470282 BTC. (1124.7%) | [03:38] |
mircea_popescu | dun dun dun | [03:38] |
smickles | it'll go up a little too | [03:38] |
smickles | ;;bc,balance | [03:39] |
gribble | Error: "bc,balance" is not a valid command. | [03:39] |
mircea_popescu | ;;bc,imbalance | [03:39] |
gribble | Error: "bc,imbalance" is not a valid command. | [03:39] |
mircea_popescu | pff | [03:39] |
smickles | .py 1.26383449/1.2638345 | [03:40] |
markac | 0.999999992088 | [03:40] |
smickles | apparantly, my word is worth .999999992088 bitcents on the coin | [03:40] |
smickles | i wonder why someone would sell at a satoshi less than the buyback price | [03:42] |
BTC-Mining | because a satoshi is worth the delay time? | [03:42] |
smickles | i suppose that's the answer | [03:43] |
smickles | so what's the average amount of confirms to get funds to show in glbse? | [03:44] |
mircea_popescu | smickles prolly for the rebate. | [03:46] |
BTC-Mining | ;;seen Nefario | [03:46] |
gribble | Nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: |
[03:46] |
mircea_popescu | they provide liquidity now | [03:46] |
smickles | ;;bc,tblb | [03:46] |
gribble | Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression. Please remove them. | [03:46] |
smickles | lolwut? | [03:46] |
mircea_popescu | you're selling inrto them, you pay fee. | [03:46] |
smickles | ah, fees, i forgot about those | [03:47] |
BTC-Mining | Well you said 1.29ish, not 1.29, so... | [03:48] |
BTC-Mining | or am I not following at all? | [03:48] |
mircea_popescu | thought he said 1.26 | [03:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.1091 = 3.9276 BTC [+] | [03:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 64 @ 0.109 = 6.976 BTC [-] | [03:48] |
BTC-Mining | Yeah, I'm not really following | [03:48] |
BTC-Mining | either way, MPEx fees are damn low | [03:48] |
mircea_popescu | 20 btc. | [03:49] |
BTC-Mining | I meant trading fees | [03:49] |
smickles | BTC-Mining: i specified 1.2638345 in the forum post | [03:49] |
BTC-Mining | Explains why there's offers at the price | [03:49] |
dub | ;;bc,tslb | [03:49] |
smickles | and someone is asking for literally 1 satoshi less | [03:49] |
gribble | Time since last block: 13 minutes and 37 seconds | [03:49] |
dub | hahahah | [03:49] |
smickles | lol | [03:50] |
* | dub is 1337 | [03:50] |
smickles | dub wins the timing award | [03:50] |
mircea_popescu | lol u dub it ? | [03:50] |
dub | dub'd | [03:50] |
BTC-Mining | 1 satoshi is always a good price to pay to remove delays | [03:51] |
mircea_popescu | you won't be saying that once btc = 11million | [03:51] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BBBB] 28 @ 0.00016 = 0.0045 BTC [+] | [03:52] |
dub | I'll be like 'remember when I bought DMC stock for 1 satoshi!' | [03:53] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [03:53] |
dub | of course DMC will by the AAPL of 12834AD | [03:53] |
BTC-Mining | Holy crap! Almost forgot... | [03:55] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-] | [03:55] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.19 = 0.95 BTC [-] | [03:55] |
kakobrekla | anno domini or after diablo? | [03:55] |
BTC-Mining | After Diablo of course | [03:55] |
BTC-Mining | There's the wednesday freeroll on Sealswithclub. Almost forgot it. | [03:56] |
BTC-Mining | ~100 people competing for 5 BTC =P | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [03:57] |
BTC-Mining | not much but still fun | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | last time he actually paid me like 2 | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | or .2 ? | [03:57] |
BTC-Mining | ? | [03:57] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ARS] 10 @ 0.0145 = 0.145 BTC [-] | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.thepreciousmetal.com/images/Silver_Mexican_Libertad_Coins.jpg i really like her tits. | [03:57] |
BTC-Mining | Oh the bet? | [03:57] |
BTC-Mining | It was 0.02 if I lose, and you give me 2 if I won first place. | [03:58] |
BTC-Mining | I think | [03:58] |
BTC-Mining | 1:100 ration | [03:58] |
BTC-Mining | ratio* | [03:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6400 @ 0.00045474 = 2.9103 BTC [-] | [03:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26563 @ 0.00036051 = 9.5762 BTC [-] | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | aha yea | [03:59] |
BTC-Mining | Fun times wasting a bit of bitcoins. | [03:59] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [04:00] |
BTC-Mining | When they are 11 million as you say, remember when I paid you 220 000 USD | [04:00] |
mircea_popescu | :D | [04:00] |
dub | rule 34 on michelle and ann tbh | [04:03] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 48 @ 1.26383449 = 60.6641 BTC [+] | [04:03] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 192 @ 1.2638345 = 242.6562 BTC [+] | [04:03] |
mircea_popescu | who're they ? | [04:04] |
BTC-Mining | 11 million dollars x 21 million BTC = 231 trillion dollars | [04:04] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining not very much but a start. | [04:04] |
dub | obama and romneys wife | [04:04] |
mircea_popescu | o those ? | [04:04] |
mircea_popescu | i'd rather see the daughters go at it tbh | [04:04] |
BTC-Mining | Lol, it's actually a lot worldwide. | [04:04] |
BTC-Mining | Who bought MPOE? | [04:05] |
BTC-Mining | at the price smickles is going to buy them back? | [04:05] |
rdponticelli | Somebody in deep need of a satoshi of profit? | [04:06] |
rdponticelli | lol | [04:06] |
rdponticelli | Probably somebody who saw people buying, and bet on a rally? | [04:07] |
mircea_popescu | Someone bought ? | [04:07] |
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rdponticelli | And who obviously doesn't know about the buyback... | [04:07] |
smickles | "I will place a bid to fulfill this end as soon as I have moved funds into the account on GLBSE." | [04:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1.25039734 BTC [-] | [04:12] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 69 @ 1.25039733 = 86.2774 BTC [-] | [04:12] |
rdponticelli | smickles: So you're not buying back but placing a bidwall? | [04:13] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 12 @ 0.56558994 = 6.7871 BTC [-] | [04:13] |
rdponticelli | :( | [04:13] |
smickles | rdponticelli: it's the way nefario has us do it | [04:14] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker mpoe.etf | [04:14] |
assbot | [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 1.25039733] [Ask: 1.89999999] [Spread: 0.64960266] [Last: 1.25039733] [24hVol: 421.44809262] [7dAvg: 1.11167851] | [04:14] |
mircea_popescu | i don't understand. how can it trade at 1.25 if you have wall at 1.26 ?! | [04:14] |
smickles | huh? | [04:14] |
* | smickles looks | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | [04:15] | |
mircea_popescu | how the heck ?! | [04:15] |
rdponticelli | The wall is @1.25 | [04:15] |
BTC-Mining | this not wall, this trick wall | [04:18] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 21 @ 1.2638345 = 26.5405 BTC [+] | [04:21] |
smickles | there's the wall | [04:22] |
rdponticelli | There it goes... | [04:22] |
rdponticelli | Was a pleasure | [04:22] |
smickles | it was nice while it lasted :) :( | [04:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00035922 = 11.2795 BTC [-] | [04:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34776 @ 0.00035919 = 12.4912 BTC [-] | [04:24] |
mircea_popescu | so did you have fun with it smickles ? | [04:25] |
mircea_popescu | 5 months, best fund in btc history by returns, etc | [04:25] |
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rdponticelli | By far | [04:25] |
mircea_popescu | !pl mpoe.etf .1 | [04:26] |
assbot | Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). | [04:26] |
assbot | MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.02470282 BTC. Last price: 1.2638345 BTC. Capital gain: 1.1638345 BTC. Total: 1.18853732 BTC. (1188.5%) | [04:26] |
mircea_popescu | that 1188% is definitive i'd guess | [04:26] |
rdponticelli | Well, to be true, I did not follow SS | [04:26] |
mircea_popescu | !pl SS .1 | [04:26] |
assbot | Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). | [04:26] |
mircea_popescu | was it .1 ? | [04:26] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: i found it to be quite nice. I liked accounting for it :) | [04:26] |
assbot | SS [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.59075039 BTC. Last price: 0.0111 BTC. Capital gain: -0.0889 BTC. Total: 0.50185039 BTC. (501.9%) | [04:26] |
smickles | SS? well, !pl won't work for ss | [04:27] |
mircea_popescu | hah! 509, not quite up to 4 digit par! | [04:27] |
mircea_popescu | o it split huh | [04:27] |
smickles | yeah | [04:27] |
mircea_popescu | so whats fair % ? | [04:27] |
smickles | let me see... | [04:27] |
smickles | also, i'm basically just the accountant for SS | [04:28] |
dub | Mitt loves big bird | [04:29] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 10 @ 0.25 = 2.5 BTC | [04:29] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 100 @ 0.25 = 25 BTC | [04:29] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 25 @ 1.2638345 = 31.5959 BTC [+] | [04:29] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitcoinica.com/ such asshattery. | [04:29] |
BTC-Mining | I call this free money | [04:30] |
dub | haha | [04:30] |
BTC-Mining | I was the one who bought the pack at of ETF at 1 BTC each | [04:30] |
BTC-Mining | few moments later 1.26 sold | [04:30] |
BTC-Mining | What I call good transaction. | [04:30] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [04:30] |
rdponticelli | You beat me for a little | [04:31] |
BTC-Mining | you were going for them too eh? | [04:31] |
rdponticelli | I bought 2 | [04:31] |
rdponticelli | Was what I have at hand | [04:31] |
rdponticelli | *had | [04:31] |
BTC-Mining | yeah, I had nothing in hand and was cancelling bids during that time | [04:31] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [04:32] |
rdponticelli | I'm running out of glbse | [04:32] |
rdponticelli | Yea, me too | [04:32] |
BTC-Mining | I'm getting good money from everyone running out =/ | [04:32] |
rdponticelli | Cancelled some bids | [04:32] |
rdponticelli | Almost sold some stock | [04:32] |
rdponticelli | Well, I'm not precisely running out | [04:33] |
rdponticelli | But when I got out of a stock, I take out the btc | [04:33] |
rdponticelli | I'm not liquidating | [04:33] |
rdponticelli | Just lowering exposure | [04:34] |
BTC-Mining | eh, and I probably have too much exposure | [04:36] |
BTC-Mining | Only reason I don't run funds by the way is that would interfere with my personal portfolio and I don't want to keep track to not cross-trade. | [04:38] |
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BTC-Mining | I'll have to pick up MPEx assets passthroughs | [04:39] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.49979956 = 0.9996 BTC [+] | [04:39] |
BTC-Mining | GLBSE need those | [04:39] |
kakobrekla | hooraa, i just stole my own password. | [04:39] |
BTC-Mining | ... ? | [04:39] |
kakobrekla | from self. | [04:39] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla huh ? | [04:40] |
kakobrekla | i use password manager | [04:40] |
kakobrekla | so i dont know any of my passwords | [04:40] |
BTC-Mining | oh... | [04:40] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: based on the last price, ss would be a 75.891883% gain when you include dividend payments | [04:40] |
kakobrekla | now i needed to get one out somehow | [04:40] |
mircea_popescu | smickles a, well that's no competition then | [04:40] |
BTC-Mining | are you closing SS too? | [04:40] |
mircea_popescu | i think sc2m was closed | [04:40] |
smickles | s2cm hasn't closed | [04:41] |
BTC-Mining | Great | [04:41] |
mircea_popescu | o ? my bad. | [04:41] |
kakobrekla | so i hacked opera magic wand with javascript | [04:41] |
mircea_popescu | lol kakobrekla you know who i do this to all the time ? | [04:41] |
mircea_popescu | GIRLS! | [04:41] |
kakobrekla | lol | [04:41] |
rdponticelli | So you stole the password to your password manager, not to you | [04:42] |
kakobrekla | and milk | [04:42] |
BTC-Mining | what's up with people complaining GLBSE/SEC all the time? | [04:42] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining paranoia. | [04:42] |
BTC-Mining | SEC was never interested in GLBSE directly | [04:42] |
BTC-Mining | People fear the governments... governments fear people... | [04:42] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: no competition? s2cm ate bad debt via pirate and still gives its shareholders a gain. I'd say that's an epic win | [04:43] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.3322 BTC [+] | [04:43] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 3 @ 1.332191 = 3.9966 BTC [-] | [04:43] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.33219 BTC [-] | [04:43] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.33009 BTC [-] | [04:43] |
BTC-Mining | Why do you think governments keep doing stuff short-term with poor long-term benefits? Because all those damned politicians are interested in their career and current popularity, not what will be achieved in a few decades. | [04:43] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 25 @ 0.25 = 6.25 BTC | [04:44] |
BTC-Mining | It's an annoying tendency, parties want to do thing bringing them instant recognition | [04:44] |
mircea_popescu | smickles i meant ss's <100% is no competition for mpoe.etf's 1188% as "highest return thibng" | [04:44] |
smickles | ah, well, yeah | [04:45] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining the same way ppl "invested" you mean ? | [04:45] |
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rdponticelli | You should have a trophy | [04:45] |
mircea_popescu | he does. | [04:45] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 350 @ 0.25 = 87.5 BTC | [04:45] |
mircea_popescu | it's called smickles. | [04:46] |
rdponticelli | lol | [04:46] |
BTC-Mining | wth is lottomining | [04:46] |
smickles | rdponticelli: you know what smickles means, don't you? | [04:46] |
BTC-Mining | looks shady | [04:46] |
smickles | "to be really good" | [04:46] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining you DO NOT want to know | [04:46] |
mircea_popescu | it will hurt. | [04:46] |
BTC-Mining | simply because it says lotto | [04:46] |
mircea_popescu | .tr smickles | [04:47] |
markac | mircea_popescu: "smickles" (de to en, translate.google.com) | [04:47] |
smickles | .o ud smickles | [04:47] |
markac | 1) To be really good. 2) As replacement to okay or great. Note: Usually said with half-hearted meaning or sarcasm OR with little or no interest in the subject of the conversation.A type of happy-go-l | [04:47] |
smickles | :D | [04:47] |
mircea_popescu | :D | [04:47] |
rdponticelli | smickles: so you also deserve the trophy to humility | [04:47] |
rdponticelli | :) | [04:47] |
BTC-Mining | argh... it's awful... | [04:48] |
smickles | and it's a nickname which I gave myself in 1992 | [04:48] |
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BTC-Mining | But as long as they actually buy the tickets... | [04:48] |
smickles | so rdponticelli, I came up with the term before it had a meaning | [04:48] |
BTC-Mining | It's just not really an investment... | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42110024 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.42110023 = 0.8422 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4211002 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 9 @ 0.42110003 = 3.7899 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42110002 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 35 @ 0.421 = 14.735 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4002 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
BTC-Mining | It's purely gambling... | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.39983965 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 370 @ 0.391 = 144.67 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
BitcoinBear | playing the lottery? | [04:48] |
rdponticelli | smickles: Maybe it got the meaning after you ;) | [04:48] |
smickles | BTC-Mining: also, that sort of operation has been deemed illegal, even in the country where they buy the tickets | [04:49] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining i told you. | [04:49] |
BTC-Mining | Probably is, yes | [04:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3263 @ 0.00045475 = 1.4838 BTC [+] | [04:49] |
BTC-Mining | I don't know for sure, but probably | [04:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 300 @ 0.00045475 = 0.1364 BTC [+] | [04:49] |
BTC-Mining | Like 99.9% chance | [04:49] |
Chaang-Noi | we need to hit 13 | [04:50] |
smickles | hasn't it already? | [04:50] |
smickles | ;;ticker | [04:50] |
gribble | Best bid: 12.8903, Best ask: 12.9899, Bid-ask spread: 0.09960, Last trade: 12.89, 24 hour volume: 31354, 24 hour low: 12.7, 24 hour high: 12.99 | [04:50] |
BitcoinBear | 13 what? | [04:50] |
smickles | oh, it did on bitfloor | [04:50] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ARS] 215 @ 0.0145 = 3.1175 BTC [-] | [04:51] |
BitcoinBear | oh, right, nevermind | [04:51] |
rdponticelli | bitfloor is running again? | [04:51] |
smickles | seems so | [04:51] |
BTC-Mining | By the way BitcoinBear, about your thread of what's worth investing in. | [04:51] |
Chaang-Noi | there is a bit of a wall on gox | [04:51] |
dub | 'bama looks like he's getting ready to rip asshole | [04:51] |
BTC-Mining | You took a look at BTC-MINING/BTC-BOND? | [04:51] |
BitcoinBear | yeah? | [04:51] |
rdponticelli | Greatest bitcoin frb | [04:51] |
dub | can see the killer stare | [04:51] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ARS] 142 @ 0.0144 = 2.0448 BTC [-] | [04:52] |
BitcoinBear | hrm, not very hard, should I | [04:52] |
BitcoinBear | ? | [04:52] |
BTC-Mining | Maybe | [04:52] |
BTC-Mining | Also the Kraken one is run by me too. | [04:52] |
rdponticelli | That's gonna hurt my bank account | [04:52] |
BitcoinBear | I thought Kraken was somebody else? | [04:53] |
BitcoinBear | Oh, wait, you run the pass-through? | [04:53] |
BTC-Mining | yeah | [04:53] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ARS] 150 @ 0.0143 = 2.145 BTC [-] | [04:53] |
BTC-Mining | Have you seen the contract on BTC-BOND and the holdings report? | [04:53] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ARS] 255 @ 0.0142 = 3.621 BTC [-] | [04:54] |
BTC-Mining | oh damn, I see why LOTTOMINING is still getting so much people in. | [04:54] |
BTC-Mining | It was issued by mc_lovin | [04:55] |
BTC-Mining | I hope the thread was made in the gambling section tho... | [04:55] |
asa1024 | oh jesus it was listed? | [04:55] |
BTC-Mining | yeah... | [04:55] |
mircea_popescu | asa1024 glbse new standards. | [04:56] |
BTC-Mining | GLBSE is really free-for-all... Investment or not... | [04:56] |
asa1024 | why not just have a trash can on the desk top and you can drag your bit coin wallet to the trash can and empty it?> | [04:56] |
dub | MUST be a scam | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | onyl lists quality assets that are in clear violation of laws in all countries involved. | [04:56] |
BitcoinBear | ack, GLBSE running very slow for me today :( | [04:57] |
BTC-Mining | Actually, GLBSE will be split. Assets respecting regulations will be on GLBSE. | [04:57] |
BTC-Mining | Other assets will be moved away. | [04:57] |
BTC-Mining | I heard | [04:57] |
kakobrekla | moved away as in couponized | [04:57] |
kakobrekla | ? | [04:57] |
BTC-Mining | No | [04:57] |
BTC-Mining | Those other assets will go to a black market | [04:57] |
BTC-Mining | GLBSE will move toward more MPEx like standards, rest will be moved out. | [04:58] |
BTC-Mining | Black market might look like the current GLBSE, idk... | [04:59] |
smickles | lol, assets respecting regs will stay on GLBSE? | [05:00] |
BitcoinBear | they set up the different colors, but everything is still in pink | [05:00] |
smickles | you don't know the regs in 'merica | [05:00] |
Chaang-Noi | what real company would list on glbse? | [05:00] |
BTC-Mining | No idea. | [05:01] |
Chaang-Noi | maybe 6 months ago but nothing now | [05:01] |
Chaang-Noi | glbse is going to die | [05:01] |
smickles | none right now (if they have a lawyer) | [05:01] |
smickles | what countries don't have securities regulations? | [05:03] |
BitcoinBear | who is it that is always outbidding me by 1 satoshi? It is obnoxious! | [05:03] |
BTC-Mining | smickles, american regulations don't matter much if it's a UK market and regulated as per UK laws... americans on GLBSE would be trading on a foreign market. | [05:03] |
BTC-Mining | I'm not sure how it would work exactly. | [05:04] |
BitcoinBear | It is especially bad when GLBSE is running slow, going through all those page turns just to move an order up a tiny bit to outbid them >:( | [05:05] |
BTC-Mining | But probably involve registering each asset as a free trading one and involve a quite a bit more paperwork from everyone. And GLBSE would act as a broker for those. | [05:05] |
BTC-Mining | More than a full fledged stock market. | [05:05] |
BTC-Mining | To keep it more realistic. | [05:05] |
BTC-Mining | I don't know tho... | [05:05] |
mircea_popescu | [05:06] | |
mircea_popescu | BitcoinBaltar prolly BTC-Mining | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | he's the only one left buying afawk | [05:07] |
BTC-Mining | no, indeed. | [05:07] |
BTC-Mining | We still need some kind of "black, free for all markets". No wrong in lack of regulations. | [05:07] |
BitcoinBear | afawk? what does that stand for? | [05:07] |
mircea_popescu | as far as we know | [05:08] |
BTC-Mining | We really need serious exchanges/brokers | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | and mpex is perfectly black in that sense. | [05:08] |
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mircea_popescu | it's not black in the sense it doesn't allow listing of shit. it's black i nthe sense it really doesn't care who calls himself "government" | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | should be a perfect combo. | [05:08] |
BitcoinBear | MP you have a plural knowledgebase? usually it is afaik, right? | [05:08] |
mircea_popescu | BitcoinBear well yea. | [05:09] |
BTC-Mining | Indeed. Although it's not free for all. Highling requiring for quality assets only. | [05:09] |
BTC-Mining | So black market, but not free to everyone to issue anything. | [05:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 25 @ 0.25 = 6.25 BTC | [05:09] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining something like that. | [05:09] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1.2638345 BTC [+] | [05:11] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.11 = 0.88 BTC [+] | [05:12] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 25 @ 0.25 = 6.25 BTC | [05:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00035925 = 0.467 BTC [+] | [05:15] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00989 BTC [+] | [05:16] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.9718 BTC [+] | [05:16] |
BTC-Mining | So, had a look at contract and spreadsheet for BTC-BOND, BitcoinBear? | [05:17] |
BitcoinBear | I'm still waiting for the page to load, stupid slow glbse mumble muble mppff | [05:17] |
BTC-Mining | ... | [05:17] |
BTC-Mining | wow... my pages load faster than that | [05:18] |
BTC-Mining | already loaded a few since then | [05:18] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.5751 = 1.7253 BTC [-] | [05:20] |
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BitcoinBear | Ok, I admit, I think I just missed BTC-Bond when I was going through all the assets trying to find anything. Looks pretty good. | [05:24] |
BTC-Mining | Aye. It doesn't pay much however. | [05:25] |
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BTC-Mining | But I carry most of the risks. | [05:25] |
BitcoinBear | BTC-Mining how actively do you trade the assets? | [05:25] |
BTC-Mining | Almost daily, there's trades. | [05:25] |
BitcoinBear | not pay much? it is still a better return than my credit card gets from me! | [05:25] |
BTC-Mining | Yeah, it's 26% per year. | [05:26] |
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BitcoinBear | and why is the price below the listed price? just the recent selloff of people leaving glbse? | [05:26] |
BTC-Mining | I believe so | [05:27] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 5 @ 0.25 = 1.25 BTC | [05:28] |
BTC-Mining | I started with 1900$ around around April/May for ~400 BTC and then in end June/August, purchased for 5500 for ~ 500 BTC. | [05:28] |
BTC-Mining | I those few months, you can see my personal portfolio went from ~900 BTC to ~1500. | [05:29] |
BTC-Mining | That's around 2-5% per week depending on the week. | [05:30] |
BTC-Mining | I end up trading a lot. | [05:30] |
dub | what the fuck | [05:30] |
BitcoinBear | In the spreadsheet, why is MPOE.ETF listed as a 0 value? just because it has not been traded in a while? | [05:30] |
dub | youtube fucked up | [05:30] |
BTC-Mining | Yeah, price is taken from API | [05:31] |
BTC-Mining | Last update was yesterday | [05:31] |
BTC-Mining | and there had been no trades in the last 5 days | [05:31] |
BitcoinBear | we just saw one a minute ago, so that should update at some point. | [05:32] |
BTC-Mining | I have to republish it regularly | [05:32] |
BTC-Mining | because the API tool often inserts Errors because GLBSE api times out. | [05:33] |
BTC-Mining | Screws up the whole totals and percent when a cell fills with "error" | [05:33] |
smickles | BitcoinBear: mpoe.etf is winding down, you know | [05:33] |
BTC-Mining | yeah, made 5 BTC on that | [05:34] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 50 @ 0.25 = 12.5 BTC | [05:34] |
BitcoinBear | oh, I hadn't heard that | [05:34] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 50 @ 0.25 = 12.5 BTC | [05:35] |
BTC-Mining | He was buying back at 1.26 | [05:35] |
BTC-Mining | I bought 20 around 1 | [05:35] |
BitcoinBear | is it just MPOE.ETF, or also the underlying asset of MPEx? | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | just the etf. | [05:35] |
BTC-Mining | just the ETF | [05:35] |
BitcoinBear | any reason why? | [05:35] |
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dub | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4U7Ec_CMAAeqkk.jpg | [05:36] |
BTC-Mining | most are leaving GLBSE | [05:36] |
BTC-Mining | or not enough time | [05:36] |
BTC-Mining | Especially since they make around 5% of profits from funds/passthrough they manage. | [05:37] |
BTC-Mining | You don't earn much | [05:37] |
BTC-Mining | Especially if you manage a 500 BTC fund which earn 1-2 % (5-10 BTC weekly), then get 5% of that (0.25 to 0.5 BTC weekly) | [05:38] |
BTC-Mining | Which is 2.5$ to 5$ | [05:38] |
BTC-Mining | What's the incentive to be there, trading daily? | [05:38] |
mircea_popescu | most peoplewere doing it for the fun | [05:39] |
mircea_popescu | as the atmosphere turned sour... | [05:39] |
BTC-Mining | That's a major problem... | [05:39] |
mircea_popescu | not even sure its a problem. this isn;'t the thing should be done "for fun" | [05:39] |
mircea_popescu | it's like throwing grenades for fun | [05:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 537 @ 0.00045475 = 0.2442 BTC [+] | [05:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3700 @ 0.00045475 = 1.6826 BTC [+] | [05:40] |
BTC-Mining | I mean, you don't manage a fund just for the fun of it... | [05:40] |
BTC-Mining | That's what I was referring to as a major problem. | [05:41] |
BitcoinBear | right, you could do some invsting on your own for fun, but taking other peoples money to play with is a bad idea | [05:41] |
mircea_popescu | a yeah | [05:41] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [+] | [05:42] |
smickles | I did it because there was a market opportunity. and I structured it in a way that the workload was minimal | [05:42] |
mircea_popescu | you barely traded did you | [05:43] |
smickles | mostly, i had buys in to catch the dips which went much further than they should've | [05:43] |
smickles | if there were more funds to work with, i would've been able to do it more efficiently | [05:44] |
BTC-Mining | I started with 400 BTC (2k USD) for the fun of it. When I found trading profit was good, I placed more and started taking loans at a small rate, putting my portfolio in front of it to protect against loss of lent funds. | [05:44] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [16:00] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: https://glbse.com || http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RMjqah || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com | [16:00] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Oct 1 23:12:50 2012 | [16:00] |
mircea_popescu | o rg paid divs i see | [16:00] |
rg | yeah | [16:01] |
rg | but i forgot to pay some money | [16:01] |
rg | so in eed to pay extra | [16:01] |
rg | can i do that | [16:01] |
mircea_popescu | sure | [16:01] |
mircea_popescu | where's your p&l i forget ? | [16:01] |
rg | i can just do the same dividend | [16:01] |
rg | but with the extra div | [16:01] |
rg | ? | [16:01] |
rg | er | [16:01] |
rg | that's terribly explained | [16:01] |
rg | i can just do a dividend with the missing amount? | [16:01] |
rg | my p&l is in a leafpad session | [16:03] |
rg | almost ready to be copy/pasted | [16:03] |
rg | i wnat to finish the new bitvps site | [16:03] |
rg | god admn it | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | "At the moment, we don't see the virtual currency market as a good | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | opportunity for our business. " | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | bah | [16:03] |
rg | pff | [16:03] |
rg | who said that? | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | rg : withhold it | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | and pay it aliong with next month div | [16:04] |
rg | no i dont wnna do that | [16:04] |
rg | that's gay | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | rg i was trying to get some sports bookies into btc | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | rg it's how it's done man. | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | you say this is owed, we paid this much, paying rest next month cause dongs. | [16:04] |
rg | oh theyre dumb | [16:05] |
rg | btc gambling is huge | [16:05] |
rg | and untaxed | [16:05] |
rg | all they'd have to do is create an anonymous entity | [16:05] |
rg | and keep it away from their real business | [16:05] |
rg | can you take 23 BTC out of my account | [16:05] |
rg | and hold it in your account | [16:05] |
rg | until its time for next divs? | [16:05] |
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mircea_popescu | rg i know | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | what can you do | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | rg why wouldd i do that lol. you just don't spend it! | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | it'll be a growth experience :D | [16:11] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2088 @ 0.00035759 = 0.7466 BTC [-] | [16:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37878 @ 0.00035741 = 13.538 BTC [-] | [16:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.0003573 = 5.6096 BTC [-] | [16:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2034 @ 0.00035729 = 0.7267 BTC [-] | [16:12] |
rg | no | [16:12] |
rg | ill spend it on shares | [16:12] |
rg | look how low mpoe is | [16:12] |
rg | ;;calc 175000 * 0.00035729 | [16:13] |
gribble | 62.52575 | [16:13] |
rg | ;;calc 175000 * 0.00042001 | [16:13] |
gribble | 73.50175 | [16:13] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.07689999 = 0.3076 BTC [-] | [16:15] |
mircea_popescu | ya it's been off the high since all this sec talk | [16:16] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 200 @ 0.04 = 8 BTC [+] | [16:30] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-] | [16:31] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-] | [16:31] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/bitpay-and-the-magical-email-confirmation/ sooo bitpay doesn't actually do opt-in | [16:32] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [DMC] 15 @ 0.0666 = 0.999 BTC [-] | [16:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00035729 = 4.7877 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.44889676 BTC [+] | [16:39] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.1499 BTC [+] | [16:42] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.01028 BTC [+] | [16:44] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.109 = 0.218 BTC [-] | [16:45] |
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assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.0769 = 0.1538 BTC [+] | [16:49] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [RSM] 9 @ 0.295 = 2.655 BTC [+] | [16:50] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 9 @ 0.07007253 = 0.6307 BTC [+] | [17:00] |
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mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115393.0 | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | so have they run off ? | [17:21] |
femtotube | who? Nefario and others? | [17:23] |
mircea_popescu | yea | [17:23] |
jcpham | if you can't trust a guy named nefario, who can you trust? | [17:25] |
jcpham | amirite | [17:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2900 @ 0.00045475 = 1.3188 BTC [-] | [17:26] |
mircea_popescu | bum-tschhh | [17:26] |
smickles | :o | [17:38] |
smickles | first news of th day | [17:38] |
rg | smickles | [17:38] |
smickles | rg | [17:38] |
rg | want to do me a favor/ | [17:38] |
rg | ? | [17:38] |
smickles | If I can, and want to | [17:39] |
smickles | i will | [17:39] |
rg | can you hold onto 20 BTC for me | [17:39] |
rg | for a month? | [17:39] |
smickles | just hold onto it? | [17:39] |
smickles | mind if I ask why you can't hold onto it? | [17:39] |
rg | lol well you can pay me interest if you want | [17:39] |
rg | its personal | [17:40] |
rg | its a weird sex thing, you dont want to know | [17:40] |
smickles | alright, lemme gen an addy for you | [17:40] |
kakobrekla | ;;ticker | [17:41] |
gribble | Best bid: 12.92012, Best ask: 12.998, Bid-ask spread: 0.07788, Last trade: 12.998, 24 hour volume: 30051, 24 hour low: 12.7025, 24 hour high: 13.01 | [17:41] |
rg | if you dont wann | [17:42] |
rg | i can just ask imsaguy | [17:42] |
rg | imsaguy is always down to hold onto fnuds | [17:42] |
rg | funds | [17:42] |
rg | he's like a pirateat40 who doesn't scam you | [17:42] |
imsaguy2 | /was/ | [17:42] |
imsaguy2 | I'm a scammer now. | [17:42] |
rg | me too | [17:42] |
smickles | loldude, < smickles> alright, lemme gen an addy for you | [17:42] |
rg | im trying to scam smickles right now | [17:42] |
rg | but hes making it har | [17:42] |
rg | d | [17:42] |
imsaguy2 | sounds good | [17:42] |
imsaguy2 | TAKE MY MONEY! | [17:42] |
rg | im gonna send him 20 btc | [17:43] |
rg | then tell him i sent him 25 btc | [17:43] |
rg | next month | [17:43] |
mircea_popescu | imsaguy2 give it hiar. | [17:44] |
imsaguy2 | mircea_popescu: you pay interest?! | [17:44] |
mircea_popescu | depends. am i keeping your principal ? | [17:44] |
imsaguy2 | are we making a perpetual annuity? | [17:44] |
rg | wait | [17:44] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno, trying to figure it out :D | [17:44] |
rg | are you paying interest again mircea?! | [17:44] |
rg | say yes | [17:45] |
rg | you fucker | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu | well, mpcd.x pays interest, and so do mpoe bonds | [17:45] |
rg | i dont want that shit | [17:45] |
rg | im a very simple man mircea | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu | actually mpcd would be ideal for mpex companies seeing how it pays on the 1st | [17:45] |
rg | i liked it the way it was before | [17:45] |
imsaguy2 | what's the rate? | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu | a 2% b 3% c 9.x%, but cdo so beware. | [17:45] |
rg | mircea says that he cant figure out how to do interest anymroe | [17:45] |
rg | so he just stopped | [17:45] |
rg | and started keeping the % | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu | rg lol you tryin to pressure me ? | [17:46] |
rg | i want my .5 btc/day you arse face | [17:46] |
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rg | mircea_popescu: only for the past 5 months | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | rg srsly, if you had 20 btc in mpcd.A it'd have paid you .4 on the 1st | [17:46] |
rg | but i dont understand that shit | [17:46] |
smickles | rg: http://bitbin.it/pDKrS7vw | [17:46] |
rg | and i dont wanna know | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | rg wellllll then | [17:46] |
rg | i liked it when i didn't have to do anything | [17:46] |
rg | and it just paid me every day | [17:46] |
imsaguy2 | 2%/month? | [17:46] |
rg | and i would be like oo | [17:46] |
* | smickles reads log | [17:46] |
rg | nice | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114442.msg1244763#msg1244763 | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, nefario is utterly fucked | [17:47] |
mircea_popescu | i'd very much want to hear what maged has to say now to turn it into a "misunderstanding" | [17:47] |
rg | puhleaze | [17:47] |
* | rg stands by nefario | [17:47] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 14 @ 0.56509999 = 7.9114 BTC [-] | [17:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.5651 = 1.6953 BTC [+] | [17:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.56515 = 1.6955 BTC [+] | [17:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 1 @ 0.04949999 BTC [+] | [17:48] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.0769 = 0.2307 BTC [+] | [17:48] |
rg | i bet nefario would pay me interest... | [17:48] |
mircea_popescu | in lottery tickets | [17:48] |
smickles | this is a bait and switch, i swear | [17:49] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.109499 = 0.657 BTC [+] | [17:49] |
assbot | [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 94 @ 0.1096 = 10.3024 BTC [+] | [17:49] |
copumpkin | that's why I wanted nefario to stop trying to regulate that shit | [17:49] |
smickles | ;;rate rg -1 uses dirty sales tactics | [17:49] |
copumpkin | he'd have some sort of "safe harbor"-like argument to make if he just insisted on being completely hands-off | [17:50] |
copumpkin | but if he touches some of the issues and not others, he's sort of tacitly condoning the ones he lets through | [17:50] |
smickles | safe harbor in securities exchange? | [17:50] |
copumpkin | well, I'm not saying it'd be legally viable | [17:50] |
copumpkin | but he could make that argument informally at least | [17:50] |
smickles | ah, just for consistency, you argue | [17:50] |
imsaguy2 | safe harbor doesn't apply if the creation itself is illegal | [17:50] |
copumpkin | smickles: he has no requirement to regulate it | [17:50] |
copumpkin | yeah | [17:50] |
copumpkin | he chose to selectively regulate it | [17:51] |
copumpkin | and now people are holding the occurrences where he didn't step in against him | [17:51] |
copumpkin | which is precisely the kind of things safe harbor laws protect against | [17:51] |
copumpkin | I'm not saying it does apply, just that it's analogous | [17:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 415 @ 0.00045476 = 0.1887 BTC [+] | [17:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1000 @ 0.00045476 = 0.4548 BTC [+] | [17:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2800 @ 0.00045476 = 1.2733 BTC [+] | [17:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1885 @ 0.00045476 = 0.8572 BTC [+] | [17:51] |
copumpkin | and he could make the argument on the forum if he'd kept his paws out of it | [17:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20231 @ 0.00035729 = 7.2283 BTC [-] | [17:51] |
copumpkin | IANAL but I engage in it regularly with mircea_popescu | [17:52] |
imsaguy2 | Who's the 'intern'? | [17:52] |
smickles | copumpkin: is there any legal pitfalls in calling yourself an arbitor or mediator | [17:53] |
copumpkin | smickles: buttsex | [17:53] |
smickles | that's more of a spike trap, copumpkin | [17:53] |
copumpkin | I don't think it's really possible to make any legal calls here :) your guesses would be more educated if you were a lawyer | [17:54] |
copumpkin | but IANAL | [17:54] |
jcpham | everytime i see that acronym i think of anal | [17:54] |
jcpham | i know it's about lawyers | [17:54] |
copumpkin | hence my mentions of mircea_popescu and buttsex | [17:54] |
jcpham | but i think anal | [17:54] |
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rg | We were not meant to experience life through a machine | [17:56] |
* | smickles should've been mining at all these hotels along the way | [18:00] |
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* | smickles should've had a a few dozen fpga miners ready for this journey and plugged them in at every hotel along the way | [18:03] |
smickles | rg: why doesn't running bitcoin-qt thru a socks proxy to my vps work very well? | [18:04] |
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rg | hmm | [18:10] |
rg | what kinda socks proxy | [18:10] |
smickles | ssh -DN | [18:10] |
rg | oh hmm | [18:10] |
rg | i was just going to suggest using that | [18:10] |
rg | instead of whatever you're doing | [18:10] |
rg | umm what exactly do you mean by | [18:10] |
rg | 'doesnt work very well' | [18:10] |
rg | mind you, you wont be able to accept connections on it | [18:11] |
rg | so your connection count will be low | [18:11] |
smickles | it never gets more than 8 connections.. oh, well, the second thing is that a lot of the connections seem to time out | [18:11] |
smickles | and some get refused | [18:11] |
smickles | channel 15: open failed: connect failed: Connection timed out | [18:12] |
smickles | channel 15: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused | [18:12] |
rg | oh | [18:12] |
rg | that's not your fault | [18:12] |
rg | or the proxy | [18:12] |
smickles | okies | [18:12] |
rg | those are just other people who're NAT'd/proxied | [18:12] |
rg | they advertise their IP/port to the network | [18:12] |
rg | but if they're nat'd | [18:12] |
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rg | it will be invalid | [18:12] |
rg | unless its forwarded | [18:12] |
smickles | just my ignorant me seeing output, eh? | [18:12] |
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Bugpowder | GLBSE is offline We will update our users on Saturday. | [18:13] |
smickles | is there a way to open the port to the bitcoin somehow? | [18:13] |
Bugpowder | mother fucker | [18:13] |
smickles | huh? | [18:13] |
Bugpowder | he took it all | [18:13] |
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Bugpowder | GLBSE is dead | [18:13] |
jcpham | no way | [18:13] |
smickles | wow, i'm glad i cashed out >200btc yesterday | [18:14] |
smickles | I did that the day b/f 'coinica died too | [18:14] |
rg | that's weird | [18:14] |
rg | wtf is up | [18:14] |
Bugpowder | I moved 1300 BTC off... still have 60 there in GIGAMINING | [18:14] |
area | Huh, wow | [18:14] |
rg | saturday is far awy | [18:15] |
Bugpowder | www.glbse.com | [18:15] |
rg | isnt there a forum post | [18:15] |
rg | or something | [18:15] |
smickles | maybe they were fractional reserve, and suffered a bank run | [18:15] |
rg | maybe it got owned :-D | [18:15] |
Bugpowder | probalby a bank run | [18:15] |
rg | ;;calc 1300 * [ticker --last] | [18:15] |
gribble | 16900 | [18:15] |
rg | woah | [18:15] |
rg | you're a millionare | [18:15] |
Bugpowder | not in coins | [18:16] |
rg | if you give me 300 BTC | [18:16] |
rg | i will give you 250 BTC back | [18:16] |
rg | in 1 year | [18:16] |
smickles | kilothousandair sounds better to me | [18:16] |
teek | update our users on saturday | [18:16] |
teek | wtf | [18:16] |
rg | it was up earlier.. | [18:16] |
rg | i used it less than 5 hrs ago | [18:16] |
smickles | yeah like 5 min ago | [18:16] |
asa1024 | okay - where do we riot about this? | [18:16] |
jcpham | if it wasn't a bank run it's about to be | [18:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00035853 = 8.7123 BTC [+] | [18:17] |
jcpham | because i'm going to sell everything into the ground | [18:17] |
jcpham | if it comes back | [18:17] |
gigavps | i sent coins to glbse this morning :-/ | [18:17] |
smickles | ouch | [18:17] |
jcpham | sorry to hear it | [18:17] |
gigavps | for monday's coupon payment | [18:17] |
rg | something must be up | [18:17] |
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mircea_popescu | [18:17] | |
Bugpowder | motherfucker | [18:17] |
smickles | it can't be good ne3ws | [18:17] |
jcpham | i've tried to refrain from dumping my assets | [18:17] |
jcpham | mainly because of you guys and not wating to affect you | [18:18] |
asa1024 | same here | [18:18] |
jcpham | now i don't care | [18:18] |
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rg | arf that means BIB.BVPS wont be able to pay out divs | [18:18] |
rg | that's wack | [18:18] |
rg | dont copy that floppy | [18:18] |
smickles | jcpham: it's business, i respect you for careing, and i'd respect you for 'looking out for no. 1' too | [18:18] |
mircea_popescu | o wait, glbse died a pirate death ? | [18:18] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: late to the party? | [18:19] |
rg | no mircea | [18:19] |
mircea_popescu | smickles i was having buttsex | [18:19] |
drekk | this is so popcorn | [18:19] |
smickles | go to glbse.com already | [18:19] |
rg | mircea is already writing a forum post talking shit about glbse | [18:19] |
smickles | see for yourself | [18:19] |
asa1024 | the soap operas my wife watches has NOTHING on this sort of drama | [18:20] |
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asa1024 | other than the sex and adultery part | [18:20] |
mircea_popescu | [18:20] | |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48829 @ 0.00036007 = 17.5819 BTC [+] | [18:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00036016 = 13.1819 BTC [+] | [18:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22636 @ 0.00036119 = 8.1759 BTC [+] | [18:20] |
asa1024 | oh and the murder | [18:20] |
rg | lol | [18:20] |
rg | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94900.0 | [18:20] |
rg | imsaguy is listed as a ponzi scheme | [18:20] |
jcpham | i'm just saying i have actively refrained from dumping my assets over the past 60 days or so since pirate defaulted | [18:21] |
jcpham | if it comes back i'll take whatever i can and leave | [18:21] |
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mircea_popescu | rg old news | [18:21] |
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smickles | imsaguy2: you're only ranked #11 on that list | [18:22] |
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DeaDTerra | what the hell is going on with GLBSE? | [18:23] |
asa1024 | turn that stock exchange back on!!! | [18:23] |
smickles | Bugpowder: lol "I should have finished pulling out", now you have a daughter | [18:24] |
asa1024 | my life savings was jn cpa!! | [18:24] |
mircea_popescu | smickles lmao | [18:24] |
asa1024 | jk | [18:24] |
asa1024 | so I guess we have been owned? | [18:24] |
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teek | this shit is unreal | [18:25] |
smickles | if Bugpowder's face is on the internet, someone should morph his face with nefario's | [18:25] |
teek | as if things havent been bad enough lately | [18:25] |
Bugpowder | I thought you were a woman usagi | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2800 @ 0.00045475 = 1.2733 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1953 @ 0.00045475 = 0.8881 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4500 @ 0.00045475 = 2.0464 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
mircea_popescu | teek shoulda pulled out | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10 @ 0.00045475 = 0.0045 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2153 @ 0.00045474 = 0.9791 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2571 @ 0.00045473 = 1.1691 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5100 @ 0.00045472 = 2.3191 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5800 @ 0.00045471 = 2.6373 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9810 @ 0.00045469 = 4.4605 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1900 @ 0.00045463 = 0.8638 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8700 @ 0.00045455 = 3.9546 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3245 @ 0.00045337 = 1.4712 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
Bugpowder | oh dear | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8200 @ 0.00045032 = 3.6926 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9500 @ 0.0004472 = 4.2484 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2146 @ 0.00044174 = 0.948 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8785 @ 0.00044165 = 3.8799 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9849 @ 0.00044119 = 4.3453 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
mircea_popescu | hm | [18:25] |
smickles | bound to happen | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1000 @ 0.00044032 = 0.4403 BTC [-] | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7417 @ 0.0004402 = 3.265 BTC [-] | [18:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 94978 @ 0.00044 = 41.7903 BTC [-] | [18:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11400 @ 0.00027879 = 3.1782 BTC [-] | [18:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4900 @ 0.00026701 = 1.3083 BTC [-] | [18:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 100000 @ 0.00023 = 23 BTC [-] | [18:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 98613 @ 0.00018 = 17.7503 BTC [-] | [18:26] |
Bugpowder | bye bye | [18:26] |
mircea_popescu | whoa shit | [18:26] |
smickles | all the way down? | [18:26] |
Bugpowder | oooooooh fuck | [18:26] |
smickles | not yet i see | [18:26] |
FledNanders | wow | [18:26] |
Bugpowder | NOW WHOS THE IDIOT | [18:26] |
Bugpowder | hehehe | [18:26] |
FledNanders | Someone decided to pull out | [18:26] |
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mircea_popescu | i guess that may all be worthless paper now | [18:26] |
FledNanders | Probably... | [18:26] |
asa1024 | so this is what being owned feels like | [18:27] |
FledNanders | Sucks to whoever just bought all those shares. | [18:27] |
asa1024 | awesome | [18:27] |
Bugpowder | they were stupid to buy them anyway | [18:27] |
mircea_popescu | asa1024 you must have missed the many "glbse is a scam" posts | [18:27] |
Bugpowder | no paid upgrade path | [18:27] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder if asics ever happen. | [18:27] |
Bugpowder | usagi, my wife expects me to lose all the bitcoin money | [18:28] |
Bugpowder | just a matter of time | [18:28] |
asa1024 | mircea - yeah I've read them but I thought you guys were just slinging mud around everywhere | [18:28] |
asa1024 | I | [18:28] |
asa1024 | gues | [18:28] |
asa1024 | s | [18:28] |
asa1024 | [18:28] | |
asa1024 | I | [18:28] |
asa1024 | gue | [18:28] |
asa1024 | ss | [18:28] |
Bugpowder | yes | [18:28] |
asa1024 | I guess I learned something | [18:28] |
Bugpowder | slinging mud | [18:28] |
mircea_popescu | mk. live and learn as it is. | [18:28] |
mircea_popescu | my girl never slung shit. | [18:28] |
area | So, do we think we'll actually hear something on Saturday? | [18:28] |
Bugpowder | but if you ahve half a brain | [18:28] |
mircea_popescu | area possibly. | [18:28] |
Bugpowder | you realize the mud is troth | [18:28] |
Bugpowder | truth | [18:28] |
asa1024 | well yeah now | [18:28] |
rg | [11:28] |
[18:28] |
rg | saw what.. | [18:28] |
rg | no one even knows what happened | [18:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8264 @ 0.00036119 = 2.9849 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17749 @ 0.00036119 = 6.4108 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00036124 = 13.2214 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17239 @ 0.00036238 = 6.2471 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
rg | im aware | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.00036305 = 11.7991 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58700 @ 0.00036411 = 21.3733 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00036415 = 13.9469 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
rg | but its not the end of the world | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00036423 = 13.7679 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27848 @ 0.00036488 = 10.1612 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
gribble | nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: |
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Bugpowder | YESSSS | [18:29] |
smickles | area: well, if we hear something on sat, how could it be good news | [18:29] |
rg | for all we know nefario found a huge bug and had to suspend trading ASAP | [18:29] |
Bugpowder | S.MPOE | [18:29] |
Bugpowder | up up up | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | lol Bugpowder | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | you in ? | [18:29] |
asa1024 | I'm so owned but oh well shit happens I didn't lose much | [18:29] |
Bugpowder | of course | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | rg there's no way he can get btc to cover for all the withdrawals | [18:29] |
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Bugpowder | I am diversified across all the non shit MPEX assets | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder so excluding what, rg ? :D | [18:30] |
kakobrekla | dafuq | [18:30] |
kakobrekla | drama. | [18:30] |
Bugpowder | C tranche | [18:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34388 @ 0.00036488 = 12.5475 BTC [+] | [18:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45612 @ 0.00036542 = 16.6675 BTC [+] | [18:30] |
rg | maybe bugpowder is the guy buying up all the s.bvps lately | [18:30] |
smickles | jurov|away: so how's that mpex brokerage coming alon? | [18:30] |
* | FledNanders got taken for about 100 BTC on GLBSE. :( | [18:30] |
Bugpowder | THIS IS SPARTA | [18:30] |
DeaDTerra | Nefario claims to hold all the BTC deposited into GLBSE in a offline wallet, so he should be able to pay all the withdraws. | [18:30] |
Bugpowder | yes thats me | [18:30] |
rg | dude | [18:30] |
rg | no one lost anything | [18:30] |
rg | relax you fuckers | [18:30] |
DeaDTerra | Anyone has his phone number,I want to give him a call. | [18:30] |
mircea_popescu | DeaDTerra on the other hand christians claim jesus' mom was a virgin at the time | [18:30] |
rg | he'll obviously be on IRC soon | [18:30] |
DeaDTerra | (not in the threatening way, but in the hey m8 what's going on way) | [18:31] |
Bugpowder | riiight | [18:31] |
Bugpowder | ;;seen Nefario | [18:31] |
gribble | Nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 19 hours, 31 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: |
[18:31] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder he did pop in a few days ago | [18:31] |
smickles | DeaDTerra: i'll check my phone log from back in march | [18:31] |
mircea_popescu | to reset the counter | [18:31] |
rg | ;;seen nefario_ | [18:31] |
gribble | nefario_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 55 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: |
[18:31] |
teek | usagi: what are you talking about? | [18:31] |
mircea_popescu | noob didn't know he has to say something | [18:31] |
rg | wtf | [18:31] |
rg | he's been here | [18:31] |
rg | it hasnt been a week since he was here | [18:31] |
mircea_popescu | rg ^^ | [18:31] |
rg | ;;seen nefario__ | [18:31] |
gribble | I have not seen nefario__. | [18:31] |
rg | ;;seen nefario- | [18:31] |
gribble | I have not seen nefario-. | [18:31] |
teek | usagi: i am talking about the great organic coke | [18:32] |
teek | i know glbse is down | [18:32] |
teek | :P | [18:32] |
Bugpowder | usagi, you already lost most of it :) | [18:32] |
rg | theres nothing wrong with doing coke | [18:32] |
rg | hes english | [18:32] |
FledNanders | I did not see this GLBSE closure coming. :( I just had a friend invest 20 BTC yesterday. | [18:32] |
FledNanders | He is going to be mad at me. | [18:32] |
rg | english people love coke | [18:32] |
rg | erm | [18:32] |
rg | its not a glbse closure! | [18:32] |
rg | wtf! | [18:32] |
rg | you guys need to fucking relax | [18:32] |
Bugpowder | Did I not said GLBSE was going to die by Nov1 | [18:32] |
rg | and stop jumping to conclusions | [18:32] |
FledNanders | rg: Do you know something we don't? | [18:32] |
rg | 'i lost xxxx' | [18:32] |
rg | you didn't lose anything | [18:33] |
rg | you dont even know what's going on | [18:33] |
FledNanders | rg: I can't get my funds... I consider that lost. | [18:33] |
teek | rg: with the further downward spiral this will cause | [18:33] |
Bugpowder | the bid value of any security held is going to be cut in half | [18:33] |
rg | temporarily unavailable! | [18:33] |
teek | ya we did lose something | [18:33] |
rg | besides | [18:33] |
DeaDTerra | Last time I talked to Nefario, he was looking for somewhere to live, I am sure he just has a limited amount of internet access and a bug came up and he had to shutdown the servers to deal with it. | [18:33] |
rg | nefario has a fuckload of btc | [18:33] |
rg | like | [18:33] |
rg | a fuck lot | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder half is a best case scenario i guess | [18:33] |
rg | i think he probably found a catastrophic bug | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | rg nefario is broke | [18:33] |
rg | mircea_popescu: so am i but i still have like 300 btc | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | wasn't he borrowing off people at his conference ? | [18:34] |
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smickles | ok, DeaDTerra i have a number | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | i guess them folks ain't seeing it back. | [18:34] |
Bugpowder | IT is fucking gone | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | rg 300 is a fucklot ?! | [18:34] |
smickles | I'm not positive it's his, but it's a +44 code | [18:34] |
smickles | what country is +44? | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | soooo... all of you people who gave your id details to nefario | [18:34] |
Bugpowder | time to update my spreadsheet of bitcoin investment losses | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | did you get HIS ? | [18:34] |
rg | mircea_popescu: for me it is | [18:34] |
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area | smickles: UK | [18:34] |
rg | fuck you | [18:34] |
rg | im not a high roller like all of you | [18:34] |
Bugpowder | !ticker | [18:35] |
assbot | Provide ticker. | [18:35] |
FledNanders | rg: None of us are high rollers anymore. :( | [18:35] |
Bugpowder | ;ticker | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker tits&assbot | [18:35] |
assbot | Invalid ticker. | [18:35] |
mod6 | hah | [18:35] |
Bugpowder | just post the bitcoin price please | [18:35] |
Bugpowder | $13.06 | [18:35] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 988 @ 0.00036542 = 0.361 BTC [+] | [18:35] |
Bugpowder | YES | [18:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00036547 = 3.0699 BTC [+] | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [18:35] |
gribble | Best bid: 13.02, Best ask: 13.0684, Bid-ask spread: 0.04840, Last trade: 13.02, 24 hour volume: 31652, 24 hour low: 12.703, 24 hour high: 13.0685 | [18:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00036661 = 2.7129 BTC [+] | [18:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7212 @ 0.00036748 = 2.6503 BTC [+] | [18:35] |
copumpkin | why wait until saturday to make an announcement? | [18:35] |
copumpkin | seems kinda shady | [18:35] |
Bugpowder | s.MPOE | [18:35] |
Bugpowder | up up up up up | [18:35] |
copumpkin | to keep it offline for three days | [18:35] |
smickles | we recently broke 13 too? | [18:36] |
copumpkin | without telling anyone | [18:36] |
smickles | waht a morning | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | copumpkin that's how the interscamgro crew does | [18:36] |
copumpkin | usagi: sure | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoininca redux. | [18:36] |
Bugpowder | 13 broke 5 minutes ago | [18:36] |
drekk | relevant: http://imgur.com/fhuyo | [18:36] |
FledNanders | usagi: When did you talk to Nefario? | [18:36] |
kakobrekla | i want my cupon codes lol | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | lol drekk | [18:36] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha kakobrekla | [18:37] |
Bugpowder | UPDATE | [18:37] |
Bugpowder | GLBSE is offline For those worried about their bitcoin, please calm yourselves there has been no hack and your coins are safe and all accounted for. I apologize for the lack of notice and the downtime, but there isn't much choice. We will update our users on Saturday. | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu | dun dun dun | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu | is there porn of it ? | [18:38] |
FledNanders | usagi: Post actual quotes. | [18:38] |
copumpkin | Vescudero? | [18:38] |
DeaDTerra | I got a answer from Nefario. He can't comment on the downtime until Sunday. | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu | helpful. | [18:38] |
smickles | how about that | [18:38] |
DeaDTerra | Please post proof :) | [18:39] |
smickles | oh, usagi samthan was asking for you | [18:39] |
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smickles | said you owed him 1200 btc or somehting | [18:39] |
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mircea_popescu | who's samthan | [18:39] |
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Luceo | Fuck GLBSE | [18:40] |
Luceo | I'm done with GLBSE | [18:40] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [18:40] |
Luceo | Glad I pulled my BTC | [18:40] |
drekk | Meanwhile... 13.07597 | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | apparently just in time | [18:41] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [18:41] |
gribble | Best bid: 13.07598, Best ask: 13.08, Bid-ask spread: 0.00402, Last trade: 13.06586, 24 hour volume: 31452, 24 hour low: 12.703, 24 hour high: 13.08 | [18:41] |
Luceo | Why is it so hard for Bitcoiners to just run legitimate fucking businesses? :S | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | lol, glbse closing is good for btc | [18:41] |
smickles | Luceo: laws, apparently | [18:41] |
BurtW | Summary of GLBSE fiasco please. | [18:41] |
copumpkin | mircea_popescu: long-term maybe :) short-term, I feel bad for a lot of people getting fucked :( | [18:41] |
DeaDTerra | Got a hold of Nefario | [18:41] |
copumpkin | but I'm a huge pussy | [18:41] |
copumpkin | mircea_popescu is sipping his cognac | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | copumpkin mee too. especially for the uppity ones who managed to completely fuck themselves over by getting on my ignore list. | [18:42] |
DeaDTerra | He doesn't seem to be going anywhere, though he can't comment on anything until Sunday (probably legal reasons). | [18:42] |
smickles | BurtW: it wen't offline, says it'll have info on saturday | [18:42] |
copumpkin | hey guys, technically your ownership of everything is your own | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | o look, it's a banker. | [18:42] |
copumpkin | as long as he keeps records | [18:42] |
copumpkin | of how much everyone owns of everything | [18:42] |
copumpkin | that shit should be published and signed though | [18:42] |
copumpkin | asap | [18:42] |
jcpham | let's blame BurtW and see if it helps | [18:43] |
* | copumpkin blames BurtW | [18:43] |
copumpkin | any better? | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | BurtW this is all your fault. | [18:43] |
jcpham | i feel better | [18:43] |
BurtW | [18:43] | |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [18:43] |
gribble | Best bid: 13.056, Best ask: 13.08, Bid-ask spread: 0.02400, Last trade: 13.08408, 24 hour volume: 31471, 24 hour low: 12.703, 24 hour high: 13.0841 | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | nope apparently doesn't work. | [18:43] |
asa1024 | oct 4th 2012 the Day the music died. | [18:44] |
Doffx | No more Glbse? | [18:44] |
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copumpkin | asa1024: have you seen margin call? | [18:44] |
Luceo | Fuck paypal | [18:44] |
Luceo | They froze my account for 6 months | [18:44] |
asa1024 | no not yet - is it any good? | [18:44] |
copumpkin | yeah, I liked it | [18:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00036748 = 5.5122 BTC [+] | [18:44] |
copumpkin | jeremy irons hears the music stop, in that movie | [18:44] |
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copumpkin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DqFRsPrns | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | well if that helps anything, strateman, taaki & co haven't "gone anywhere" either. they're still around | [18:45] |
asa1024 | thanks! i'll check it out! | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | heck, even pirate trolls irc ocasionally. | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | so maybe it will all work out in the end. | [18:45] |
copumpkin | it's fictional, but designed to mirror more or less what happened during the shitshow | [18:45] |
Doffx | Wow no update until Sat, wtf | [18:45] |
Luceo | usagi: Hope you get your shit back :x | [18:46] |
jcpham | seems legit | [18:46] |
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rg | someone musta called in the federalies | [18:46] |
jcpham | hi! we have all your monies. the site is down. sucks to be you. we'll talk about it in a few days. | [18:46] |
mircea_popescu | maybe he issues btc coupons | [18:46] |
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defactomacro | it seems nothing is safe anymore | [18:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00036748 = 0.3675 BTC [+] | [18:46] |
mircea_popescu | and tells everyone to take it up with the blockchain | [18:46] |
defactomacro | except gox....for now | [18:47] |
mircea_popescu | gavin has to now code something to accept the coupons into the blocks | [18:47] |
mircea_popescu | or else you can sue him | [18:47] |
rg | mtgox has enough money to grease the wheels | [18:47] |
Luceo | All the feds are accomplishing is driving legitimate businesses underground, into tor, into darknet, onto IRC | [18:47] |
* | ErebusBat is late to the game. GLBSE is shutdown? SEC? | [18:47] |
jcpham | who knows | [18:47] |
copumpkin | asa1024: if you like financial fuckup movies based on true stories, you should also watch rogue trader. That's an even more ridiculous story | [18:47] |
mircea_popescu | ErebusBat no sec, just idiocy | [18:47] |
ErebusBat | mircea_popescu: any thread or pastebin I can read to catch up? Other than (CLOSED WILL UPDATE IN A FEW DAYS?) | [18:48] |
DeaDTerra | I am talking to James at the moment | [18:48] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114442.msg1244763#msg1244763 that maybe. | [18:48] |
BurtW | ErebusBat no sec, just idiocy << can you expound on this | [18:48] |
DeaDTerra | All the coins are safe, it's not a bug nor a hack. More info will come on Sunday. Try to stay cool kids | [18:48] |
copumpkin | asa1024: basically a single guy managed to destroy a major bank that had existed for a couple hundred years by lying about how much he was making them | [18:48] |
mircea_popescu | BurtW not past what the pr girl has been saying on the forum, and i'm sure you've read and ignored. | [18:48] |
rg | mircea | [18:49] |
rg | so are you admitting that you called the cops | [18:49] |
rg | on nefario? | [18:49] |
copumpkin | usagi: don't panic, the records of what you own are still intact, I'm sure, and you can settle your ownership with the asset issuers | [18:49] |
ErebusBat | mircea_popescu: I don't get the point of that thread. GLBSE closed down because of pressure from goat? | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu | rg me ?! | [18:49] |
JWU_42 | usagi: let's wait and see what happens here... | [18:49] |
Doffx | What coins, if you have a bond and not btc your fucked when this is over | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu | ErebusBat glbse was a scam platform. it closed down once it became unsustainable. | [18:50] |
copumpkin | it'll be a pain in the ass, but many of the issuers will be able to move over to mpex, and issue you shares based on what nefario claims you own | [18:50] |
JWU_42 | we get it | [18:50] |
Doffx | Massive sell off ck up coming if its back up Sat | [18:50] |
ErebusBat | mircea_popescu: source? other than your opinion? | [18:50] |
mircea_popescu | copumpkin you think ? | [18:50] |
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* | JWU_42 nods | [18:50] |
ErebusBat | usagi: did you already send your deposit? | [18:50] |
JWU_42 | I already got the Pirate reaming | [18:50] |
mircea_popescu | JWU_42 you had an asset did you ? | [18:51] |
JWU_42 | yes - I do | [18:51] |
mircea_popescu | o well. prepare for the fun of handling privately your investors. | [18:51] |
JWU_42 | YABMC - a mining bond | [18:51] |
mircea_popescu | hopefully < 100 of them | [18:51] |
JWU_42 | yes - think so - but not 100% sure | [18:51] |
ErebusBat | Did asset holders get any advance notice? | [18:51] |
mircea_popescu | the ideea is you prepare for contingencies so you don't have to cuff it. | [18:51] |
Luceo | usagi: Whats your plan if glbse comes back? | [18:51] |
Luceo | usagi: Get everything off there onto something safe? | [18:52] |
JWU_42 | ErebusBat: I received no advance notice (no notice at all) | [18:52] |
Bugpowder | copumpkin why would MPEX take GLBSE trash? makes no sense... cryptostocks maybe | [18:52] |
smickles | lol, theymos knew nothing of this | [18:52] |
smickles | found out on his forum | [18:52] |
mircea_popescu | smickles lmao this is great | [18:52] |
mircea_popescu | he sold his shares already i take it. | [18:53] |
Bugpowder | smickles bullshit | [18:53] |
smickles | i dunno | [18:53] |
jcpham | if no one was given any notice, it isn't good | [18:53] |
jcpham | let's not be naive | [18:53] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: i hadn't heard that they sold yet | [18:53] |
ErebusBat | smickles: is there a thread yet? | [18:53] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham why not ? after such a long run of being naive, why break it. | [18:53] |
Bugpowder | herp derp I accidently tried to sell my shares at the worst possible time | [18:53] |
smickles | ErebusBat: sort'of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115430.20 | [18:53] |
ErebusBat | smickles: ty | [18:54] |
imsaguy2 | that's old news rg | [18:54] |
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mircea_popescu | taking a positive look on things, this chan passed 100 users now, so can't be all bad. | [18:56] |
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Doffx | Time to open free accounts for Mpex | [18:57] |
mircea_popescu | not happening. | [18:57] |
mircea_popescu | actually | [18:57] |
smickles | Doffx: no, time for jurov|away's brokerage site to open up public | [18:57] |
mircea_popescu | effective immediately, the fee is 30 btc. | [18:57] |
mircea_popescu | enjoy. | [18:57] |
Doffx | Lol. | [18:58] |
smickles | coinbr.com, iirc | [18:58] |
ErebusBat | AND your eyes can bleed while you use it | [18:58] |
ErebusBat | it is a two-fer | [18:58] |
Doffx | Either way I will no longer participate in any exchange. | [18:58] |
Doffx | I'm glad I removed all my BTC from Glbse | [18:59] |
defactomacro | what is left to participate in? | [18:59] |
Doffx | Just wish I had time to dump all my shares | [18:59] |
genjix | nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy. | [19:00] |
smickles | defactomacro: any other bitcoin related securites exchange? | [19:00] |
smickles | there's a whole list in /topic | [19:00] |
Doffx | The btc is only one part of the problem, the bigger problem is everyone is going to want out. | [19:01] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ident genjix | [19:01] |
gribble | Nick 'genjix', with hostmask 'genjix!~genjix@188.165.73.224', is not identified. | [19:01] |
mircea_popescu | you have got to be kidding. | [19:01] |
Doffx | So if you own shares what happens. | [19:01] |
ErebusBat | genjix: If ther eis govt intervention it doesn't matter one lick if nefario was legit or not | [19:01] |
mircea_popescu | genjix aren't there some coins you folks stole with bitcoinica taht need to be dispensed ? | [19:01] |
smickles | ;;gpg info genjix | [19:01] |
ErebusBat | Doffx: *if* it comes back online then it could be a massive opportunity | [19:01] |
gribble | User 'genjix', with keyid 7F27BD9C634FEC67, fingerprint AC51D09F17398C5F74E8512B7F27BD9C634FEC67, and bitcoin address None, registered on Thu Mar 17 18:28:42 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=genjix . Currently not authenticated. | [19:01] |
DeaDTerra | [19:02] | |
mircea_popescu | DeaDTerra why do you insist in associating with well known scammers ? | [19:02] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: guruvan "part of the bitcoinica, bitcoin consultancy, bitcoinica consultancy crew that has stolen a large amount of customer funds. Do not trust these guys - bitcoinica, intersango, consultancy, or any new project" | [19:02] |
mircea_popescu | it's not a good business plan. | [19:02] |
DeaDTerra | I just talked to James, the situation is critical but stable for now. All the coins are safe in the offline wallet. It was not a hack. | [19:02] |
smickles | that, in re to genjix | [19:02] |
DeaDTerra | I am losing more respect for you each minute, so please shut up Mircea :) | [19:02] |
mircea_popescu | im surprised that he has the gall to even show up | [19:03] |
mircea_popescu | much less "vouch" for his scammer friends. | [19:03] |
mircea_popescu | DeaDTerra welcome to my ignore. | [19:03] |
DeaDTerra!*@* | added to ignore list. | [19:03] |
PsychoticBoy | dont care about his wallet, most of my btc are stuck in assets, I want my asset money back if GLBSE does not come back | [19:03] |
PsychoticBoy | about 1.5K | [19:04] |
mircea_popescu | PsychoticBoy that sucks. | [19:04] |
Doffx | I agree with PsychoticBoy, I dont have any BTC in there its the assets I'm more concerned with. | [19:04] |
Uglux | DeaDTerra, and what is the situation? oO | [19:04] |
PsychoticBoy | respect, first explain | [19:05] |
PsychoticBoy | critical, stable. does not say anything | [19:06] |
teek | DeaDTerra: do you actually know the situation | [19:06] |
teek | or were you just told "its critical but stable" | [19:06] |
Luceo | Sunday? Not Saturday? | [19:06] |
PsychoticBoy | so tell us, or quit protecting nef | [19:06] |
Luceo | Why is it taking so long? | [19:06] |
Luceo | Is it legal? | [19:06] |
PsychoticBoy | WHAT IS THE SITUATION???? | [19:06] |
teek | DeaDTerra: so then you don't know the situation | [19:06] |
PsychoticBoy | stable, critical doesnt mean shit | [19:07] |
defactomacro | hey, all we need now is for BFL to up and run | [19:07] |
PsychoticBoy | what is stable? | [19:07] |
PsychoticBoy | at this rate, bitcoin is getting very crappy | [19:07] |
OneEyed | Hi | [19:07] |
OneEyed | That's what is written on the site itself | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | heya | [19:08] |
jcpham | it's the people PsychoticBoy | [19:08] |
jcpham | not nthe bitcoin | [19:08] |
PsychoticBoy | i know :( | [19:08] |
jcpham | or the ideas produced by the people | [19:08] |
Luceo | mircea_popescu: Could this shit happen to mpex? | [19:08] |
jcpham | of course not Luceo | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | Luceo not as far as i can see | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | propose a scenario ? | [19:08] |
jcpham | and even if it could why would he say yes | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham ^^ eh | [19:08] |
Luceo | As far as I know mpex is still centralized | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | it is. | [19:09] |
Luceo | What happens to mpex if you disappear? No one can continue their assets? | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | ok lemme pull the faq up | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | 21. What happens if your domain(s) or server(s) are confiscated ? | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | In case the domain is confiscated or otherwise lost MPEx will move to a different domain, in a different jurisdiction. Should the same happen again, MPEx would move to what will at the time be a solid alternative for a free Internet, be it the TOR network, namecoin or some equivalent DNS or any comparable solution. No government will ever be able to stop the Internet, in general. We're prepared to show this in the particular. | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | Should the systems be confiscated or otherwise lost the service will failover to different systems, possibly on bulletproof hosting if need be. If sufficient pressure is put on this side MPEx will be recoded as a p2p system. | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | 22. Even so, how would the investors be affected in the event MPEx can no longer be continued ? | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | In the unlikely case that the continuation of MPEx becomes impossible, all issuers will be provided with lists of their shareholders. A successor system would have to be constructed (either centralized or maintained independently by the respective issuers), but no information is lost : since people can still sign with their keys, it is trivial for anyone who is in fact a shareholder to identify himself as shareholder. Just to be on | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | the safe side, a dump of all users' final STATs, encrypted with their keys and clearsigned by the exchange will be released before closing, in whatever manner will be deemed at that time efficient, as for instance on a p2p file sharing system. | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | that';d be it. | [19:09] |
Luceo | I'm starting to think the main 'safe' thing about mpex is that you're in Romania :P | [19:10] |
mircea_popescu | no, the main safe thing about mpex is that i'm a hardass. | [19:10] |
Luceo | And the big governments don't tend to get that far | [19:10] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway, in case anyone missed it earlier : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115441.0 | [19:11] |
mircea_popescu | mpex new acct fee is 30 btc now. | [19:11] |
PsychoticBoy | maybe Ill create my own stock exchange site, :D | [19:12] |
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mircea_popescu | PsychoticBoy just don't run it like glbse. | [19:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 676 @ 0.00036748 = 0.2484 BTC [+] | [19:12] |
Luceo | Maybe what we need is a decentralized exchange? | [19:12] |
Luceo | So that if one important person or server gets v&, the exchange goes on | [19:12] |
mircea_popescu | maybe so. | [19:13] |
mircea_popescu | da2ce7 and others were working on one Luceo | [19:13] |
Luceo | I'm glad I pulled out of GLBSE when they started trying to go legal | [19:14] |
* | OneEyed too | [19:14] |
smickles | Luceo: congratz on being the umteenth person to suggest and not yet impliment a decentralized bitcoin securities exchanges. next action, find Open Transactions | [19:14] |
OneEyed | I pulled the last 100 BTC I had there during the last week | [19:14] |
mircea_popescu | OneEyed smart. | [19:14] |
mircea_popescu | from the forums : "GLBSE has better assets and is free. I am now even less likely to sign up to you." | [19:14] |
mircea_popescu | dun dun dun. | [19:14] |
OneEyed | mircea_popescu: it started to smell very bad | [19:14] |
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Luceo | smickles: Looking for it | [19:14] |
asa1024 | #opentransactions | [19:15] |
smickles | Luceo: OT seems like it could work, it just needs a bit more dev | [19:15] |
Luceo | mircea_popescu: Konichua is very young, go easy on him :P | [19:15] |
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mircea_popescu | Luceo i ain't sayin anything :p | [19:15] |
mircea_popescu | ErebusBat emphasis was on "trying". | [19:15] |
Luceo | ErebusBat: Every Bitcoin business which has tried to go 'legit' has become worse | [19:15] |
ErebusBat | ^^^ I don't nessecarily disagree, but taken out of context that is a very bad thing to have in a news clipping (or courtroom) | [19:16] |
Luceo | Until the system recognizes and legislates around Bitcoin, any attempt to take Bitcoin businesses through regulation & registration is futile | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | moreover, the system will have to recode itself to fit with bitcoin | [19:16] |
knotwork | Open Transactions does work, I have never used any financial system that was as good at actually keeping balances correct before | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | not the other way around | [19:16] |
Luceo | Well sure, taken out of context it is | [19:16] |
ErebusBat | "bitcoins are just for criminals… as soon as GLBSE tried to become legal alot of users jumped ship and here are some quotes….." | [19:16] |
knotwork | having all balances have to be signed for seems to make it extremely robuts | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | ErebusBat you have a point there. | [19:17] |
knotwork | robust | [19:17] |
ErebusBat | knotwork: what is OT actulally good for *today*? | [19:17] |
pigeons | use knotwork's server and find out | [19:17] |
mircea_popescu | ErebusBat i think there's some game servers using it already | [19:17] |
Luceo | ErebusBat: I understand but let's just put that into context | [19:17] |
Luceo | It's the legal system which makes it that way | [19:17] |
knotwork | It works, you can transfer assets from user to user, you can put them on markets, you can withdraw blinded cash tokens | [19:17] |
knotwork | you can do cheques and "cashiers cheques" | [19:17] |
Luceo | If the legal system wasn't in the 1900s, and unable to work with Bitcoin, and with small financial services providers, then we wouldn't have these issues | [19:18] |
knotwork | It could do with easier way to use Tor though, like actual proxy-port support | [19:18] |
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smickles | knotwork: so you're saying just the ui and tor interface need work? | [19:18] |
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knotwork | and of course it could do with prettier clients if it actually makes any sense to let grandma have a seat on a stock exchange | [19:18] |
pigeons | smickles: yeah, ther eare some recent videos demonstarating | [19:19] |
knotwork | grandma probably ought to just use videochat with her nice friendly broker though at $75/hour or whatever and let him/her deal with all the complicated stuff | [19:19] |
jcpham | the term "going legal" implies complying with regulations | [19:19] |
jcpham | based on the nature of bitcoin, regulations will make people jump ship | [19:20] |
knotwork | smickles well it needs scaling up too | [19:20] |
smickles | glbse would have to get a lot of info from its users to comply with us regs, and serve us users | [19:20] |
pigeons | well to be fair, it wasn't the act of intending to comply with regulations that brought the regulators down on them | [19:20] |
knotwork | right now we had to put a limit to the number of offers a nym can have open because nyms issuing 72 offers 3 times a day without clearing their inboxes were blowing out the inbox download timeouts | [19:20] |
smickles | knotwork: oh wow | [19:21] |
knotwork | so we put a limit of only 36 open offers per nym for now | [19:21] |
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smickles | knotwork: open offers, so that's like buy/sells? | [19:21] |
knotwork | thing is there are so damn many markets the market-making scripts wanted to post shitloads of offers | [19:21] |
knotwork | yes, buy/sells | [19:21] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115441.0 | [19:22] |
kakobrekla | lol | [19:22] |
smickles | kakobrekla: the first reply is golden | [19:22] |
knotwork | I have scripts that take the computed value for an asset in terms of another and place offers to buy by the one at a time at 97% or by the ten at a time at 98% or by the 100-lot at 99% and to similarly sell at 103%, 102%, 101% stuff like that | [19:22] |
kakobrekla | :D | [19:22] |
knotwork | so thats six offers right there just to do one way round of one pair | [19:22] |
knotwork | because of those scale factors it treats both ways round of a pair as distinct markets | [19:23] |
smickles | interesting, i need to settle into my new place first tho :| | [19:24] |
knotwork | so like at 100 scale, offering to sell 100 of A for x many B per 100 is separate market from offering to sell 100-lots of B for y many A per 100 | [19:24] |
knotwork | so tons of need for arbitrageurs | [19:24] |
knotwork | even if they just buy 100-lots and sell in smaller lots or whatever | [19:25] |
knotwork | or match up folk selling A for price in B with people selling B for price measured in A | [19:25] |
smickles | knotwork: well, today may be a good day to attract more players | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | see Luceo ? you ask me to go easy on them cause they're young, they sprout dumbass shit cause... heck, why not. they;re young and everyone should go easy on them | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | this is broken. | [19:25] |
Luceo | mircea_popescu: Hmm, you make a fair point | [19:26] |
mircea_popescu | im not gonna be the first taking 15yo's to be thrown off rocks, but i can't deny sparta had a point somewhere in there. | [19:26] |
knotwork | I am hoping OT will appeal to large players due to its lack of percentage-based trading fees | [19:28] |
midnightmagic | ;;seen nefario | [19:28] |
gribble | nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 20 hours, 28 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: |
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knotwork | doing everything in integers should also hopefully help encourage larger size trades | [19:28] |
Bugpowder | LOL |
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mircea_popescu | Bugpowder hey, seems only fair. | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | people that joined in time get an advantage over the ones that shittalked mpex back in the day cause "glbse is so much better" | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | it's how busienss works : back the wrong horse, bleed out of each limb. | [19:33] |
Luceo | OpenTransactions says its centralized | [19:33] |
Luceo | o.O | [19:33] |
smickles | is this where I brag about paying less fees to mpex than glbse | [19:33] |
smickles | Luceo: but federated | [19:33] |
knotwork | Damn I didnt even turn on the usage tokens system yet in OT | [19:34] |
pigeons | my mpex account was free, casue they used to be free | [19:34] |
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knotwork | oh thats right piegons rub it in why dont you | [19:34] |
smickles | pigeons: you fucking early adopter | [19:34] |
asa1024 | damn and I was testing out coinbr.com | [19:35] |
pigeons | knotwork: while it was free i tried to get you to join | [19:35] |
asa1024 | 30 btc* fee now? | [19:35] |
ErebusBat | So I can't really use OT for anything today? | [19:35] |
pigeons | ErebusBat: you can use OT for whatever you want today | [19:35] |
ErebusBat | asa1024: dont forget that your eyes will bleed too… how can you put a price on that. | [19:35] |
knotwork | ErebusBat sure you can, you just have to get it installed on your system | [19:35] |
smickles | ErebusBat: you could setup proxy assets to glbse assets and make a killing | [19:35] |
smickles | i bet | [19:35] |
asa1024 | lol | [19:35] |
knotwork | ErebusBat you can use the scripting language or the java GUI client both work | [19:36] |
pigeons | and don't forget the mighty https://assets-otc.com/ | [19:36] |
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ErebusBat | pigeons: rephrase: is anything else actually using OT today? Or is it still pretty much POC? | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | lol pigeons was mining back when cpu were the rage, too | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | BURN HIM | [19:36] |
pigeons | ErebusBat: knotwork has a server with btc, i0c,ixc, ltc, CDN, etc, a handful of other servers, i'm not sure which of them want to be announced yet | [19:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66100 @ 0.00036628 = 24.2111 BTC [-] | [19:37] |
ErebusBat | any guides on OT? Last I looked there really were not | [19:37] |
pigeons | there are videos now | [19:37] |
knotwork | I have been making tables for my own curiosity at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html | [19:37] |
smickles | that's you? | [19:38] |
pigeons | http://open-transactions-tv.github.com/ | [19:38] |
mircea_popescu | yea, that was him | [19:38] |
knotwork | yeah Digitalis Data Services is my sole proprietorship, see WHOIS knotwork.com and WHOIS knotwork.net | [19:38] |
ErebusBat | ty pigeons | [19:38] |
pigeons | https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions/wiki | [19:38] |
knotwork | once there is some easy way to use it through Tor there are a few groups who want to have OT servers as Tor hidden services | [19:39] |
smickles | pay me back first, but srsly, don't | [19:39] |
knotwork | currently they make do with Truledger for that I think | [19:40] |
pigeons | a couple truledger servers on tor are getting popular | [19:40] |
smickles | go read the myth of sysiphus by Camus, usagi | [19:40] |
pigeons | well, compared to a few months ago | [19:40] |
knotwork | Truledger doesnt have markets though nor even escrow-type smart contracts to force trades to actually happen both ways | [19:40] |
smickles | that should change your mind | [19:40] |
smickles | .wik "the myth of sysiphus" | [19:41] |
markac | "The Myth of Sisyphus is a philosophical essay by Albert Camus." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus | [19:41] |
smickles | of all things, when I learned that guy died in a train crash, i laughed | [19:42] |
ErebusBat | So is Truledger like OT? | [19:42] |
knotwork | Truledger only does accounts. it does similar type of accounting where everything is signed though | [19:42] |
knotwork | but no markets, no way to make sure guy sends you in return what he promised when you send him something | [19:43] |
knotwork | I think people have been using it mostly just for their local trust group for doing accounting around their in and out to fiat stuff among people they know | [19:43] |
pigeons | mostly gold i've seen with truledger | [19:44] |
ErebusBat | Watching the OT vids: makes me thiink of bitcoin test net… at first you are like I HAVE 10,000 BTC!!!! then realize you cant actully do anything with them :( | [19:44] |
knotwork | I dont touch fiat at all with my server, I only deal with game money like bitcoins and litecoins and ixcoins and all that play money stuff | [19:44] |
knotwork | smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102316.0 | [19:47] |
jcpham | the myth of sisyphus is actually an old favorite | [19:48] |
jcpham | there is much to learn there | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham it's so for all married men. | [19:48] |
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jcpham | i was just saying how i wished reeses were here to troll this bitch up | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [19:48] |
jcpham | and look what happened | [19:48] |
pigeons | you can get knowtwork's OT contracts here http://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/ | [19:49] |
reeses | jcpham rubs my bottle and I come out | [19:49] |
jcpham | i rub it hard | [19:49] |
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smickles | knotwork: well, i may not be too far off from helping out | [19:50] |
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asa1024 | I wonder when the first murder over bit coin is gonna happen? | [19:55] |
asa1024 | the media will love that one "FIRST MURDER OVER A VIRTUAL CURRENCY!!!" | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | asa1024 this happened already | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | was i think wow gold ? in korea | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | coupla years back | [19:56] |
asa1024 | oh yeah? | [19:56] |
asa1024 | lol | [19:56] |
smickles | i don't think bitcoin is a virtual currency anyway | [19:57] |
mircea_popescu | well, it's virtual alright. | [19:57] |
smickles | digitally signed record of ownership of digital record | [19:58] |
smickles | i don't see anything virtual about that | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | can i take a bite out of it ? | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | if you can't kill your girlfriend with it, it's virtual. also known as rule of thumb. | [19:58] |
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smickles | data on harddrives has mass mircea_popescu | [19:59] |
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mircea_popescu | yes but the relationship between real data and the virtual coins is... virtual. | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | whereas a duck which is real has weight, it's own. | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | not the weight of some picture of it. | [19:59] |
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mircea_popescu | (the duck also weighs the same as a witch, which is virtual) | [20:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 550 @ 0.00347504 = 1.9113 BTC [+] | [20:01] |
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Anduck | sup | [20:01] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: but it's the known claim to control of the virtual thing that has the value, so it's the data, not the thing itself | [20:01] |
pigeons | less virtual than usd | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | if safekeys were the token claims that'd make the content of the safe no less virtual by this working. | [20:02] |
smickles | like thos boulders on that island at that time | [20:03] |
FabianB | .n | [20:03] |
Anduck | news from nefario? | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | Anduck not so far. | [20:04] |
smickles | "whith the thing in the place" | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | smickles easter island was it ? | [20:04] |
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smickles | heh, not that I know of | [20:05] |
smickles | DeaDTerra texted him | [20:05] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: i don't think it was easter island | [20:05] |
mircea_popescu | mmm, maybe irw | [20:06] |
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smickles | mircea_popescu: i would look it up, but curiously, all my networking died with the exception of irc | [20:07] |
Doffx | DeaDTerra, can you buy all my GSDPT back from me at what I bought it at? | [20:07] |
smickles | ;;google boulders as money | [20:07] |
gribble | Rai stones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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smickles | rai stones, i bet | [20:07] |
FledNanders | What's this about GLBSE going down? What will happen to all my BTC and PPT shares? | [20:07] |
pigeons | and its gone | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | all this malignity | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | towards a reputable hyip platform | [20:08] |
Doffx | That would be fine with me. | [20:09] |
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Doffx | I dont have an Mpex account however, mircea_popescu said I wasn’t worthy. | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | Doffx so have an in-kind transfer to some broker or w/e | [20:10] |
Bugpowder | Doffx I will sell the for you for 10% cut | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | once glbbq comes basck online, you get your coupons, you redeem them etc | [20:10] |
Doffx | Well first I need to be able to access my Glbse account to give him the totals. | [20:10] |
FledNanders | nobody is going to honor glbbq coupons. | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | FledNanders why do you demonize ? | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | are you going rto say next that milk is a scammer ? | [20:11] |
FledNanders | The Goat precident. | [20:11] |
FledNanders | milk isn't a scammer. milk does the body good. | [20:12] |
Doffx | Well I guess its a good thing I mostly own that asset | [20:12] |
Doffx | Ok cool, If Sat Glbse is back ill ping you. | [20:12] |
smickles | Doffx: if you have shares of gsdpt (or whatev) you could give DeaDTerra a signed doc that says you'll give X shares to him as soon as is possible | [20:13] |
smickles | that way, you could sell today | [20:14] |
smickles | for that matter, you could probably do that with anyone, not just DT | [20:14] |
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Anduck | btw | [20:15] |
Anduck | glbse down got something to do with pirate? | [20:15] |
smickles | noone really knows | [20:15] |
Doffx | I dont know how many I have exactly is the problem haha | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | Anduck hardly | [20:15] |
smickles | Doffx: you could just do it wiht an amount you are comfortable with | [20:15] |
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Doffx | I want to sell them all, and move on. | [20:16] |
Anduck | well | [20:16] |
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Anduck | it was a major source of pirates bonds | [20:16] |
Anduck | so ummmhh | [20:16] |
smickles | if it ends up being more than you actually had, you just take responsibility for the difference | [20:16] |
Anduck | if SEC is investigating, glbse might been shut down cuz of it | [20:16] |
asa1024 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA | [20:16] |
FledNanders | GLBSE should be migrated to a .bit site. Should have been migrated a long time ago. | [20:17] |
mircea_popescu | FledNanders .bit is accessible in vanilla browser ? | [20:17] |
Doffx | I may do that tonight then smickles, my gpg keys are on another pc. | [20:17] |
Doffx | I really need to export them to this pc. | [20:17] |
pigeons | um pirate is one of the reasons there the legal folks are interested in glbse | [20:18] |
Diablo-D3 | is the SEC investigating or not? | [20:18] |
pigeons | yes | [20:18] |
FledNanders | mircea_popescu: yes | [20:18] |
FledNanders | unless you're an idiot | [20:18] |
Diablo-D3 | meh | [20:18] |
pigeons | mircea_popescu: one line in your resolv.conf | [20:18] |
Diablo-D3 | I think Im just going to officially announce the end of DMC | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | FledNanders you seriously are making that distinction with glbbq "investors" ? | [20:18] |
pigeons | DeaDTerra: how about the fucking SEC they said they are | [20:18] |
FledNanders | DeaDTerra: Nefario confirmed it on the forum somewhere. | [20:18] |
pigeons | i proved it to myself, why should i prove it to you | [20:19] |
FledNanders | SEC contacted Nefario. I'm confident that is a fact. | [20:19] |
Diablo-D3 | DeaDTerra: you know what I want to know? I got trolls, you didnt | [20:19] |
pigeons | i don't want it to be true, but it is | [20:19] |
Diablo-D3 | DeaDTerra: but we both got fucked the same way | [20:19] |
pigeons | mircea_popescu: this in your resolve.conf and you're done: search namecoin-suffix.dot-bit.org | [20:20] |
Diablo-D3 | didnt read the DMC thread? | [20:20] |
Diablo-D3 | all the forum trolls jumped on the nefario train and trolled the fact DMC lost money because of nefario's bullshit | [20:20] |
mircea_popescu | pigeons you realise most people on glbbq can't do gpg --clearsign, right ? the fuck they know how to find resolve.conf | [20:21] |
pigeons | sorry *resolv.conf | [20:21] |
pigeons | find / -name "resolv.conf" ;) | [20:21] |
mircea_popescu | on windoze ? | [20:21] |
pigeons | what's that? | [20:21] |
Diablo-D3 | on windows its hosts.txt | [20:21] |
mircea_popescu | right | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | except i dunno, does the syntax even work in hosts.txt ? | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | AND uit's a *hidden file* | [20:22] |
pigeons | for windows: http://dot-bit.org/files/suffixes/namecoin.reg | [20:22] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: if you're manually setting shit? yes | [20:22] |
Diablo-D3 | its identical to hosts on unix | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 i had no ideea | [20:22] |
Diablo-D3 | if you want to change DNS, you have to use the gui | [20:22] |
pigeons | resolv.conf is not hosts | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | but on a serious note pigeons, this is very useful info. | [20:22] |
pigeons | no you don't | [20:22] |
Diablo-D3 | pigeons: you missed the point of my comment | [20:22] |
Diablo-D3 | Im aware of what resolv.conf is | [20:22] |
Diablo-D3 | Ive written enough of them manually | [20:23] |
mircea_popescu | so far in spite of what the scammer group claims there's not been any actual pressure from the agencies on this, but should it come to it, making the site .bit is trivial. | [20:23] |
Diablo-D3 | is the fucking forums down again | [20:23] |
Diablo-D3 | oh wait, its just slow | [20:23] |
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FledNanders | mircea_popescu - you plan to wait to be contacted to move to .bit? | [20:23] |
FledNanders | proactive is better than reactive. | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | FledNanders why am i paying all these lawyers for then ? | [20:24] |
FledNanders | You aren't smart? | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | riiight. | [20:25] |
mircea_popescu | guerilla means you fight and fall back | [20:25] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: is one of the best dressed men i know of | [20:25] |
mircea_popescu | it doesn't mean you just keep running | [20:25] |
smickles | ofc he's smart | [20:25] |
FledNanders | make sure to tell dreadpirateroberts to just go ahead and put silk road on a .com and hire your legal team. | [20:26] |
FledNanders | i'm sure that's the smart thing to do, right? | [20:26] |
rg | mircea_popescu | [20:26] |
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rg | when you get a chance, send me that div money | [20:26] |
rg | im setting it aside | [20:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00036412 = 7.6829 BTC [-] | [20:26] |
rg | i did a withdrw, i tin i did t properly | [20:26] |
rg | this FUCKKING KEYBOARD | [20:26] |
hctib | does anyone have any word about GLBSE? | [20:26] |
rg | makes me look like a retard always dropping keystrokes | [20:26] |
pigeons | turd is the word | [20:26] |
mircea_popescu | hctib yea, its back up. | [20:26] |
smickles | no new news yet hctib | [20:26] |
* | mircea_popescu wonders how many people checked. | [20:27] |
hctib | really mircea_popescu , I just checked | [20:27] |
rg | theres new info on it | [20:27] |
rg | hehe | [20:27] |
mircea_popescu | dun dun dun | [20:27] |
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jcpham | i want a few thousand mg's of caffeine for lunch | [20:27] |
vampireb | so anyone knows what happened to glbse? | [20:28] |
Bugpowder | lol | [20:28] |
Eisenhower34 | something happend to glbse ?? | [20:28] |
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FledNanders | vampireb - Nefario is updating to GLBSE 3.0 and adding a claim codes section to relclaim Goat assets. | [20:29] |
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hctib | mircea_popescu: I see not much information on the site. | [20:29] |
hctib | maybe he went over his bandwidth? | [20:29] |
FledNanders | Call Nefario's phone. | [20:29] |
FledNanders | He says it's GLBSE 3.0 | [20:29] |
Diablo-D3 | what a scammer | [20:29] |
* | jcpham votes Diablo-D3 for bitcoin presidente! | [20:30] |
FledNanders | GLBSE 3.0 = Options trading, leverage trading, partial share trades, code claiming, new charts, new server, etc... | [20:30] |
Diablo-D3 | jcpham: I wouldnt want the position anyhow | [20:30] |
jcpham | that makes you the perfect candidate | [20:30] |
* | jcpham votes Diablo-D3 for bitcoin presidente 2x! | [20:31] |
Diablo-D3 | Ive had enough drama for awhile | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | FledNanders will it actually take < 5seconds per page load ? | [20:31] |
FledNanders | mircea_popescu - supposedly it will be "lightning fast" | [20:31] |
hctib | FledNanders: that still doesn't explain two days of down time with no notice. | [20:31] |
FledNanders | He didn't comment on that.... But I assume he wants to chase away the bad seeds. | [20:32] |
FledNanders | A little regulator scare might help that. | [20:32] |
FledNanders | Had to take the site down to migrate systems/servers and test things. | [20:32] |
FledNanders | Most likely it won't come back up on Saturday, but Monday after a weekend of bug fixing. | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | monday, november 5th ? | [20:33] |
FledNanders | He will be contacting people soon regarding bug testers. | [20:33] |
FledNanders | At least that is what the guy who I presumed to be Nefario said when I called the number listed on the whois. | [20:33] |
rg | it was me | [20:33] |
rg | trolling you | [20:34] |
FledNanders | rg - quite possible. i had never spoken to Nefario before. | [20:34] |
hctib | And if you do a good job running scams there's always the ..... government. duh duh duh | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | FledNanders he sorta sounds like a 50 yo lesbian on her last period. | [20:34] |
hctib | And if you do a good job avoiding scams there's always the ..... government. duh duh duh | [20:35] |
geod | ;;rate arij 1 sold btc for ppusd. fast transaction | [20:35] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user arij has been recorded. | [20:35] |
FledNanders | mircea_popescu - i can't say i know what that sounds like | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | omg somebody used bitcoin-assets for bitcoin business ? | [20:35] |
mircea_popescu | BAN HIM | [20:35] |
FledNanders | "he" sounded to me like a very professional young asian man. | [20:36] |
FledNanders | but that might just be assumption and racist | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | he's irish | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | so you're right on the money. | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | inasmuch as he's young asian he's very professional. | [20:36] |
k3t3r | Fled: did the guy you spoke to sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4iPCpmv678 | [20:36] |
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mircea_popescu | funny tho, FledNanders found the first azn mccarthy | [20:37] |
k3t3r | lol | [20:37] |
BTC-Mining | eh, so what's up with GLBSE | [20:37] |
mircea_popescu | nothing | [20:37] |
mircea_popescu | in fact... everything's down with glbse. | [20:37] |
k3t3r | fine over here | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | apparently the sec had a change of heart. | [20:38] |
FledNanders | k3t3r - it is tough to say for sure. it is possible but he sounded more asian... | [20:38] |
FledNanders | maybe he was just exhausted and sick of his phone blowing up | [20:39] |
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FledNanders | we talked to 3 minutes and he basically just rattled off glbse 3.0 upgrade features and said he is busy fixing bugs to try and get it up before Monday. | [20:40] |
FledNanders | he could have been in a panic that his number was published or just trying to throw people off | [20:40] |
FledNanders | weird he would give info out over the phone but not on the site | [20:41] |
FledNanders | anyway you know what i know. good luck to us all. i've got a couple grand i would like to see again. | [20:41] |
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mircea_popescu | FledNanders are you serious ?! | [20:42] |
FledNanders | mircea_popescu - call the number | [20:42] |
FledNanders | says the other guy that called him.... | [20:42] |
FledNanders | DeaDTerra - did he mention GLBSE 3.0 to you? | [20:43] |
smickles | someon published his number? | [20:43] |
FledNanders | DeaDTerra - had you spoken to him before? | [20:43] |
FledNanders | smickles - do your research, it is available online | [20:43] |
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FledNanders | I called about 25 minutes ago - when did you call? | [20:44] |
FledNanders | you texted? | [20:44] |
FledNanders | text =/= calling | [20:45] |
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mircea_popescu | what a fascinating turn of events. | [20:45] |
FledNanders | fascinating to who? | [20:46] |
mircea_popescu | rather weak trolling, srsly. | [20:46] |
FledNanders | we'll see... | [20:47] |
FledNanders | call the # | [20:47] |
FledNanders | DeaDTerra - call and ask about GLBSE 3.0 | [20:48] |
FledNanders | see if i was being trolled | [20:48] |
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jcpham | i'll ignore all this tomorrow when I'm off work | [20:50] |
jcpham | saturday too | [20:50] |
FledNanders | jcpham - good call. | [20:50] |
boonies4u | I dodged a bullet on this one | [20:50] |
boonies4u | :P | [20:50] |
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smickles | flednanders, well I already had his number from when he called me months ago | [20:51] |
smickles | ohloggyoffy | [20:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00036412 = 12.4529 BTC [-] | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | smickles different name from same ip was in yest trying to troll s.dice | [20:51] |
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hctib | how does one troll s.dice? | [20:52] |
* | smickles will be off to lunch then | [20:52] |
matthewh3 | I know Nafario, I've met him, have him on my Facebook and have his phone number but I'm not calling him yet. As I imagine he is very busy and answering lots of calls. I have sent him a message on Facebook tho. | [20:52] |
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boonies4u | so did anyone see anything stranger before the current page went up? | [20:53] |
boonies4u | or did it go out like a light? | [20:53] |
asa1024 | I still have a page up from there | [20:54] |
boonies4u | what is that people are thinking he did? | [20:54] |
asa1024 | usagi - you around? | [20:54] |
boonies4u | that is making you say that you trust him? | [20:54] |
Bugpowder | usagi is incapacitated | [20:55] |
boonies4u | drunk? | [20:55] |
asa1024 | finding a high place | [20:55] |
Bugpowder | [11:36] |
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mircea_popescu | Bugpowder then again you gotta consider the source. | [20:56] |
boonies4u | usagi isn't a good source? | [20:56] |
Bugpowder | [12:03] |
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mircea_popescu | boonies4u hard to tell at this point. | [20:57] |
boonies4u | if that's legit, usagi sold him down the river | [20:57] |
boonies4u | only reason someone would say i'm sorry that many times | [20:57] |
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matthewh3 | even if GLBSE was forced to shut down there are multiple copies of the database and it wouldn't take long until it surfaced on I2p or Tor networks in full with all history, accounts and coin. | [21:00] |
JWU_42 | what is up with usagi ? | [21:00] |
Bugpowder | how does that work for monitizing the assets | [21:00] |
Bugpowder | God this is the best thing that could have possibly happened to Kludge | [21:01] |
imsaguy2 | the multiple copies of the db has been proven? | [21:02] |
Doffx | ;;ident Doffx | [21:02] |
gribble | Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is identified as user Doffx, with GPG key id DE23494FA64F5DA1, key fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address None | [21:02] |
Doffx | I need to add a bitcoin address I spose | [21:03] |
tbcoin | teek toffoo TomServo tonikt Transisto | [21:03] |
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mircea_popescu | matthewh3 they'd have to be signed tho | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | otherwise useless pretty much | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder now that's a point. | [21:04] |
Bugpowder | His girlfriend might one day become is wife now | [21:04] |
mircea_popescu | legally ? | [21:06] |
Doffx | Hmm, how do you add a bitcoin address anyhow, I dont see it in the guide. | [21:07] |
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boonies4u | sounds like i'm gonna have to buy a FPGA | [21:09] |
boonies4u | oh well | [21:09] |
asa1024 | x6500 ? | [21:09] |
boonies4u | nah, probably a single | [21:11] |
asa1024 | good luck! | [21:11] |
boonies4u | i have a year long loan https://btcjam.com/listings | [21:12] |
boonies4u | I was going to be activating it, and sending a good amount of funds to GLBSE | [21:12] |
boonies4u | so yeah, I dodged a bullet | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | well, will be back monday. | [21:12] |
imsaguy2 | oh yeah? | [21:12] |
imsaguy2 | based on what? | [21:12] |
boonies4u | I can't really take YOUR word on that mircea_popescu | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | lol. i was just saying, they claim this. | [21:13] |
Doffx | ;;ident Doffx | [21:13] |
gribble | Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is identified as user Doffx, with GPG key id DE23494FA64F5DA1, key fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address None | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | course, it was saturday ~4 hours ago and sunday ~2 hours ago, so maybe it's monay on the newyear's eve | [21:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00036272 = 0.1451 BTC [-] | [21:16] |
boonies4u | mircea_popescu: what? | [21:18] |
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mircea_popescu | boonies4u originally site was going to be back saturday. | [21:19] |
boonies4u | mircea_popescu: oh? well, i'll be waiting for update on saturday | [21:19] |
boonies4u | that is what I told my investors | [21:19] |
hctib | It says that there will be an update on Saturday. | [21:19] |
boonies4u | ^ | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | Oct 04 18:38:35 |
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mircea_popescu | course... | [21:20] |
boonies4u | oh, well then... | [21:21] |
boonies4u | pfff | [21:21] |
boonies4u | ;;slap DeaDTerra | [21:21] |
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Luceo | Does no one ever get bored of people not being able to comment? | [21:22] |
Luceo | Why cant people just be honest? :( | [21:23] |
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hctib | bored no. annoyed maybe | [21:23] |
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mircea_popescu | Luceo because when people ARE honest various idiot forumdwellers bitch whine and moan. | [21:24] |
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Diablo-D3 | okay so | [21:26] |
Diablo-D3 | glbse is down | [21:26] |
Diablo-D3 | nefario ran away with all the money | [21:26] |
Diablo-D3 | fuck him | [21:26] |
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Luceo | mircea_popescu: Fuck the forum dwellers, I'd rather hear the truth | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | Luceo it has been my policy from day one. | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | heck, the pr girl even got a signed document to that effect. | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | it was published there, to much huzzah. | [21:28] |
Doffx | ;;ident Doffx | [21:28] |
gribble | Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is identified as user Doffx, with GPG key id DE23494FA64F5DA1, key fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address 1Q9FavHENPK7sATGm8ebthxG9EhQmaamw2 | [21:28] |
Doffx | Yay, sorry for the spam. | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 ironic, isn't it | [21:28] |
Doffx | Its really me mircea_popescu! | [21:28] |
asa1024 | congrats Doffx - you got it! | [21:28] |
Doffx | Thanks! | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | lol wd. | [21:29] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: it is ironic. | [21:29] |
Luceo | Not too keen on the 30 BTC fee for mpex :/ | [21:29] |
Luceo | Will make the market less liquid | [21:29] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: the big irony is, I just announced officially Im shutting DMC down due to nefario's incompetence | [21:29] |
Luceo | Would have thought you'd want to seize the fallout from GLBSE | [21:29] |
asa1024 | mircea_popescu: would the fee also include current beta testers of coinbr.com? | [21:29] |
Luceo | asa1024: afaik coinbr users just use the coinbr account so they dont pay mpex fees | [21:30] |
asa1024 | popular man | [21:30] |
Luceo | But its higher trading fees | [21:30] |
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asa1024 | ty luceo for the answer!! | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | Luceo you should have gone in when it was 20 | [21:30] |
asa1024 | :) | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | or else, you know... wait for it to be 50 | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | when btc is also 50 | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | make a real loss. | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | asa1024 coinbr has its own account, you don't pay me fees. | [21:31] |
asa1024 | ok ty sir! | [21:31] |
rg | DERP | [21:31] |
rg | hey mircea | [21:32] |
rg | DERP | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | sup | [21:32] |
Luceo | I might try OT | [21:33] |
rg | Luceo | [21:33] |
rg | what ever happened to that raffle | [21:33] |
Luceo | mircea_popescu: The reason I dont like the reg fee at mpex is that you keep all the idiots out so I cant just exploit them for easy btc :( | [21:33] |
Luceo | rg: It's still going | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | Luceo these exploits tend to end up blowing in your face | [21:34] |
rg | how many tickets left | [21:34] |
rg | 10000 ? | [21:34] |
Luceo | Over 2/3 sold | [21:34] |
mircea_popescu | take BTC-Mining as a fine example. he thinks he;'s been exploiting idiots | [21:34] |
mircea_popescu | except... if he gets nothing back off glbse now, is he actually a winner here ? or a net loser ? | [21:34] |
rg | someone kick mircea | [21:34] |
Diablo-D3 | I guess if nefario destroyed GLBSE, it makes shutting DMC down easier =/ | [21:34] |
mircea_popescu | trying to invest in the sense of "exploting idiots" never works aout, it's pretty much the same thing as trying to time a ponzi. | [21:34] |
rg | dude | [21:34] |
rg | stfu! | [21:34] |
rg | stop saying shit like that | [21:34] |
mircea_popescu | rg whats your problem lol | [21:35] |
Luceo | rg: 310 | [21:35] |
rg | not you | [21:35] |
rg | [14:34] |
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rg | theres no reason to think GLBSE is destroyed for any reason | [21:35] |
boonies4u | ^ | [21:35] |
Diablo-D3 | yeah well, I have trouble giving a shit anymore | [21:35] |
Diablo-D3 | nefario can go fuck himself | [21:35] |
rg | umad bro | [21:36] |
rg | ? | [21:36] |
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Diablo-D3 | Mad? Somewhat. | [21:36] |
Diablo-D3 | you're subscribed to the dmc thread, right? | [21:36] |
rg | i am proud to say i am not subscribed to ANY threads | [21:36] |
rg | not even one | [21:36] |
grubles | !ticker s.dice | [21:37] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.00325001 / 0.00337508 / 0.0034 (1794402 shares, 6,056.27 BTC) | [21:37] |
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mircea_popescu | rg are you from like, 2011 ? | [21:38] |
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BTC-Mining | mircea, what? How am I exploiting anyone? | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | as in, buy cheap sell high. | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | see luceo's quote for context. | [21:40] |
BTC-Mining | so... trading on the market is explotation now? =P | [21:40] |
Luceo | BTC-Mining: Exploitation isn't always bad, if people are willing to price badly you may as well exploit that | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | dude, he said he doesn't like mpex cause there's no idiots to exploit | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | i pointed out that places built on idiots eventually collapse. | [21:41] |
BTC-Mining | I'm pretty sure I never used that term. | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | leaving aside the fact that i never heard of a place with no idiots. | [21:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6221 @ 0.00036272 = 2.2565 BTC [-] | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | "I am so sorry.. wtf.... glbse shut down.... i have been talking about this for days.. my life ssvings is gone,,," | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | ^^ | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | Look guys I am asorrt...l I am druni now.... its not my fault.. I will gibe you my work money. My wife wil kil me.. I mk sorry I am sorry.. I am sorry../// | [21:42] |
mircea_popescu | this is sad. | [21:42] |
Luceo | mircea_popescu: No, I was sarcastically remarking that the fee tends to keep out the sunday traders | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | are we going to go into a politically corect spiral nao ? | [21:43] |
Luceo | I actually like mpex but the fee does keep out a lot of the smaller traders which can hurt liquidity in such a small market | [21:43] |
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mircea_popescu | Luceo you oddly forget liquidity is what, 10x what glbse was at peak ? | [21:44] |
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pigeons | rg are you trolling or you really think there is no reason to think glbse is toast? | [21:46] |
MoneyIsDebt | Wow, just noticed | [21:46] |
MoneyIsDebt | And it was just yesterday I moved all my funds out | [21:47] |
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MoneyIsDebt | Good timing for once | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | wd. | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | SlipFaunders what more did nefario have to say ? | [21:47] |
pigeons | he said "uhh legal stuff" | [21:47] |
SlipFaunders | I have not talked to him since earlier. | [21:47] |
SlipFaunders | Have you? | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | no, i was busy talking to urmom. | [21:48] |
SlipFaunders | say hi to Elvis while you're at it | [21:48] |
rg | pigeons: serious as cancer | [21:49] |
rg | like i said | [21:49] |
mircea_popescu | cancer is funnay. | [21:49] |
rg | im thinking he tried to integrate some new shit | [21:49] |
SlipFaunders | Are DeaDTerra and I really the only ones that reached out to Nefario? | [21:50] |
rg | to curb the bitching/moaning on IRC/forum | [21:50] |
rg | and found terrible bugs | [21:50] |
rg | too terrible to continue running | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | so then it's toast. | [21:50] |
rg | umm no | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | seeing how it has terrible bugs, too terrible to continue | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | well ? | [21:50] |
rg | he has a new vesrion of the site | [21:50] |
rg | and has had it | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | right. why trust a. he found them all b. he can fix them ? | [21:50] |
rg | the current site was obsoleted anyway | [21:50] |
rg | no one finds ALL the bugs | [21:51] |
rg | ever | [21:51] |
rg | it doesnt happen | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | his site is obsolete every 6 months | [21:51] |
rg | ok HTML 1 boy | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | make new one, fill it with scams, take his cut (refuse/delist those who don't give cut) | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | then when they all blow, make "new version" | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | of scam exchange | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | more scams, more cuts, new version | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | more scams, more cuts, new version | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | etc. | [21:51] |
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rg | mircea_popescu: 9/11 | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | hm ? | [21:52] |
pigeons | the new version was to remove security and make it more accessible | [21:52] |
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rg | glbse has obviously been deeply affected by 9/11 | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | lolk | [21:52] |
rg | god damn terrorists | [21:52] |
BTC-Mining | When people go crazy, "9/11" | [21:53] |
BTC-Mining | Gets everyone together... to still be crazy? | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | when peopel say shit you don't wanna hear... "9/11". | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | works just as well. | [21:53] |
rg | lol | [21:53] |
BTC-Mining | Works too. | [21:53] |
rg | i just say 9/11 all the time | [21:53] |
rg | irl | [21:53] |
rg | 'dude why did you do that james?' | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | tourgette's ? | [21:53] |
rg | '9/11 man... 9/11' | [21:53] |
pigeons | never forget! | [21:54] |
pigeons | or else the terrorists win | [21:54] |
Ignatius-otc | thanks for the info post BTC-Mining | [21:54] |
rg | people were so dumb about 9/11 | [21:55] |
BTC-Mining | I remember in Family Guy when Lois ran for mayor. Actual speeches left people there not impressed. She said 9/11. The crowd went crazy cheering. So her speech afterward were just repeating "9/11" over and over. Kept the crowd happy. | [21:55] |
rg | a friend of mine still thinks 9/11 should be a national holiday | [21:55] |
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rg | hahaha btc-mining | [21:56] |
rg | i reember that | [21:56] |
rg | i cant believ ethat show is still on | [21:56] |
rg | its not been good since it got canceled | [21:56] |
BTC-Mining | Eh, all shows turn bad. | [21:56] |
pigeons | it was never good, they just tell 1000 jokes and everyone will laugh at a different 3 of them | [21:56] |
rg | pigeons sure it was | [21:57] |
rg | they pioneered that type of 'comedy' | [21:57] |
rg | even the simpsons copied them for a while | [21:57] |
rg | cause of ratings | [21:57] |
rg | now the simpsons is back to just plain sucking | [21:57] |
rg | and so is family guy | [21:57] |
BTC-Mining | No problem Ignatius. Just trying to keep what's known/claimed posted somewhere instead of people having to scour the forum. It's really a mess. | [21:57] |
kakobrekla | copied by using 9/11 to get ratings up? | [21:58] |
rg | [james@elephant The.Simpsons]$ ls | [21:58] |
rg | MISC Season.07 Season.08 Season.11 Season.12 Season.13 | [21:58] |
rg | only good simpsons | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining link ? | [21:58] |
rg | season 9 is good too but ive seen iit 8000 times | [21:58] |
rg | that's why i dont have it | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | rg season 9 episode 11 is the best. | [21:58] |
jcpham | HACKER | [21:58] |
jcpham | WAREZ ADDICT | [21:59] |
rg | my favorites are.. | [21:59] |
BTC-Mining | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115467.0 | [21:59] |
jcpham | i'm calling universal studios | [21:59] |
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jcpham | or who the fuck ever | [21:59] |
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rg | Mr X. , When they go to Japan | [21:59] |
rg | eiei (annoyed grunt) | [21:59] |
rg | that sthe tomacco episode | [21:59] |
jcpham | i haven't seen the simpsons since family guy | [22:00] |
BTC-Mining | There's really not much to go on about. | [22:00] |
rg | Grift Of The Magi, Bart To The Future, ake My Wife Sleaze | [22:00] |
rg | hilarious eps | [22:00] |
BTC-Mining | I have only seen the first seasons actually... | [22:01] |
jcpham | but what is the reward other than some vague social context to discuss an obscure cartoon show | [22:01] |
rg | simpsons is not obscure | [22:01] |
BTC-Mining | Probably like 1 - 6 or 7 | [22:01] |
rg | maybe in vietnam, where you're from | [22:01] |
jcpham | i called it obscure and i meant it | [22:01] |
jcpham | network television, fox? | [22:01] |
rg | RAPE | [22:01] |
rg | RAPE | [22:01] |
rg | RAPE | [22:01] |
jcpham | dying generation | [22:01] |
rg | Fox is dying | [22:01] |
rg | slowly | [22:01] |
jcpham | fail people watch network tv | [22:02] |
rg | i actually watch our local fox affiliates news program | [22:02] |
rg | cause its bad | [22:02] |
rg | and sometimes they have musical artists | [22:02] |
rg | performing their art | [22:02] |
jcpham | cartoon network should pick it up | [22:02] |
jcpham | i wonder why they haven't | [22:02] |
rg | you mean adult swim. | [22:02] |
jcpham | i bet money | [22:02] |
rg | DIFFERENT THINGS | [22:03] |
rg | josh wang | [22:03] |
rg | ha ha i just dropped jcpham's dox | [22:03] |
jcpham | don't be joshing me | [22:03] |
jcpham | anyways maybe i should watch the simpsons | [22:04] |
jcpham | but it really needs to be syndicated more | [22:04] |
jcpham | because its dead | [22:04] |
rg | its usually on fox | [22:05] |
rg | at either 6, 630, 7 or 730 | [22:05] |
dub | [22:05] | |
kakobrekla | is the lol part of the quote | [22:05] |
dub | no, a nefario quote would have at least 17 'like's in it | [22:06] |
rg | fuck ya'll | [22:06] |
rg | haters | [22:06] |
jcpham | oooooh burn | [22:06] |
rg | dont use his shit if you dont like it | [22:06] |
dub | we wont | [22:06] |
kakobrekla | i would if i could | [22:06] |
dub | as soon as we can extract our coins | [22:06] |
kakobrekla | but its down | [22:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00036477 = 0.4012 BTC [+] | [22:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00036618 = 7.5067 BTC [+] | [22:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00036748 = 2.2784 BTC [+] | [22:07] |
jcpham | oh a mad dash to crash the market will work | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | rg actually... they can't use it even if they like it. | [22:07] |
jcpham | me first me first | [22:07] |
rg | mircea_popescu: you're just mad cause no matter how much glbse fucks up | [22:07] |
rg | people *still* dont want to use mpex | [22:07] |
jcpham | i can point and click | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | right :D | [22:08] |
jcpham | i need mpex to be point and click friendly | [22:08] |
rg | well | [22:08] |
rg | its like 3 words friendly | [22:08] |
kakobrekla | jcpham, coinbr | [22:08] |
rg | you can do anything on mpex with 1 command | [22:08] |
dub | jcpham: is right | [22:08] |
rg | and like 2+ argumnts | [22:08] |
dub | I only have one hand free | [22:08] |
jcpham | fuck commands | [22:08] |
jcpham | point and click | [22:08] |
dub | how am I supposed to gpg with one hand | [22:08] |
rg | typing is faster than clicking | [22:08] |
jcpham | ok so tablets are pointless | [22:09] |
dub | what teh fuck | [22:09] |
jcpham | let's take 25 years back in ui design | [22:09] |
dub | I might have been raxxed | [22:09] |
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dub | or goxxed | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | dub jcpham try jurov's thing, coinbr.com | [22:09] |
rg | ok | [22:09] |
rg | i dont like the bad karma in here | [22:10] |
rg | its bumming out my high | [22:10] |
rg | lets all figure out a movie that rg hasnt seen | [22:10] |
rg | but wants to see | [22:10] |
mod6 | Wall St.? | [22:10] |
dub | swap.avi | [22:10] |
jcpham | see that works | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | UrMom Is Doing Detroit (volume 9) ? | [22:10] |
jcpham | the brokerage can be point and click | [22:10] |
rg | you know ive not yet seen wall st | [22:10] |
rg | the new one | [22:10] |
dub | SWAP.AVI | [22:10] |
rg | that mightve been a good suggestion | [22:10] |
mod6 | the new one was meh, ok. | [22:10] |
jcpham | now we have a service economy based on an exchange | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham :D | [22:10] |
rg | if it was higher than a 5.5 on imdb | [22:10] |
rg | ill watch it | [22:10] |
dub | theres a new swap.avi? | [22:10] |
rg | 6.3 | [22:11] |
rg | that's cuttin it pretty close | [22:11] |
jcpham | anyways i'm just trolling | [22:11] |
jcpham | i never bothered to read the instructions | [22:11] |
mod6 | rg: ahh, yeah, it wasnt nearly as good as the original. :/ | [22:11] |
jcpham | i wish i would have now though | [22:11] |
jcpham | for mpex | [22:11] |
mod6 | you should have jcpham | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | why ? | [22:11] |
jcpham | i regret being lazy | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | cost you what, like 500 bux ? not the end of the world. | [22:12] |
jcpham | i regret not diversify in your exchange | [22:12] |
jcpham | it's really a matter of laziness | [22:12] |
jcpham | 20 30 btc whatever it is | [22:12] |
jcpham | used to grow on trees | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | yup | [22:12] |
jcpham | now it doesn't | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | well, it'll be 50 art some point so. | [22:12] |
rg | mm | [22:13] |
rg | coinbr looks pretty cool | [22:13] |
rg | im glad someone finally fuckin did it | [22:13] |
dub | swap.avi looks pretty cool too | [22:13] |
Luceo | mircea_popescu: Some day that 50 BTC will be $50k :( | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | Luceo that day the fee will prolly be 500 btc. | [22:13] |
jcpham | the idea is sound really | [22:13] |
Luceo | $500k to join an exchange? :P | [22:13] |
dub | three chicks take turns eating each others dookie, vomiting it back out into their open assholes, then eating it again | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | Luceo yes. | [22:14] |
jcpham | name a place where it is free to trade securities | [22:14] |
BTC-Mining | Well... I'm sure a chair at any stock market is very costly... | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham any place where securities = scams. | [22:14] |
jcpham | you know what i meant | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | yea i do. | [22:15] |
BTC-Mining | That's why most go through brokers conntected the system doing electronic transactions. | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | an' yer rifght. | [22:15] |
jcpham | it should cost money | [22:15] |
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mircea_popescu | "I've reviewed your posts, you are definitely not worth doing business with , but carry on. Iggy button on." | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | the only one thing i regret is that this btc being anon | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | i can't fucking keep black lists properly. | [22:16] |
Luceo | jcpham: cryptostocks :P | [22:16] |
jcpham | is that the distributed thing | [22:16] |
jcpham | sgornick's thing | [22:16] |
Luceo | Its Vircurex's one | [22:17] |
sgornick | jcpham: ? | [22:17] |
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BTC-Mining | It's your PR person mircea. People hate it. It's a troll. | [22:18] |
jcpham | i'm sorry i'm thinging of the bond thing | [22:18] |
jcpham | let's talk about that since you are here | [22:18] |
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mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining ya well, i'm really sorry I can't practically go "o, you're that cocky bullshitter talking back to my pr ? Fuck you, apologize, pay double or get lost". | [22:19] |
sgornick | > jcpham: i'm sorry i'm thinging of the bond thing | [22:20] |
sgornick | > let's talk about that since you are here | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin is too full of people with absurd ideas about themselves. | [22:20] |
sgornick | jcpham: Is that directed to me? | [22:20] |
jcpham | https://github.com/jgarzik/pybond#readme | [22:20] |
BTC-Mining | I think people are not fan of your bully like talk either Mircea =P | [22:20] |
sgornick | Oh .. .ha .. that has happened like half a dozen times now. | [22:20] |
jcpham | i think i am confused | [22:20] |
sgornick | jgarzik != sgornick | [22:21] |
jcpham | exactly | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining i can certainly see that. | [22:21] |
jcpham | my apologies | [22:21] |
sgornick | np | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | sad fact of the matter is, things don't work w/o someone laying down the book ocasionally. | [22:21] |
BTC-Mining | You don't attract investors by giving a 360 degrees "FUCK YOU! TOLD YOU SO!" all around all the time. | [22:21] |
BTC-Mining | No matter if you're right or not. | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining experience seems to show i do. | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | ever stopped to think about that ? | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | "hey, this guy is doing everything wrong and comes up on top all the time... hmm.. maybe I AM WRONG ?!?!" | [22:22] |
BTC-Mining | I think it's more about people who can go over the talk and the fee because of the great issues on MPEx than anything else. | [22:23] |
BTC-Mining | Not because the PR helps. | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | really, it's about the following fact : vapid idiots aren't investors. investors that are investors follow principles. | [22:23] |
pigeons | but i wanna be an investor! | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | you don't close a contract by offering people free bonbons unless you're selling cheap shoes for the mass market. | [22:24] |
teek | quite a shit pile we have turned this into guys | [22:24] |
teek | and by we i mean - not me | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | ahahah line of the day | [22:24] |
teek | some of the others, wow. | [22:24] |
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BTC-Mining | I still believe you're hurting yourself. Attacking everything else without actually promoting yourself? | [22:27] |
BTC-Mining | Not very professional. That PR person should defend MPEx when attacked and give info and answers about it. | [22:28] |
BTC-Mining | Not attack others, if others are bad, real investors will come to the right place. | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | BTC-Mining mpex owns a market. some idiots keep insisting in diluting that market with obvious scams. it's her job to point this out. | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | no. | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | scams need to be called out as scams. | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | THEN real investors will figure things out. | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | and otherwise, mpex has supported (incl with donations) all sorts of beneficial people and initiatives. | [22:31] |
BTC-Mining | If real investors needs to have the scams pointed out, then they're not really investors... | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | it's just a matter of, the bad guys have a little cartel going and they're defending each other with empty words. | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | we disagree on that. | [22:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15048 @ 0.00036366 = 5.4724 BTC [-] | [22:32] |
BTC-Mining | It seems so. | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | well, not the end of the world. | [22:33] |
dub | I support the bad guy cartel theory | [22:34] |
BTC-Mining | Indeed. | [22:34] |
dub | think of intersango, nefario, theymos.. all in the same place, know each other irl, all shady as fuck like some gang of limey grifters | [22:36] |
boonies4u | is that where the fee to join mpex goes? | [22:36] |
boonies4u | to fighting the evil scammer cartels? | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | boonies4u it goes back as dividends. | [22:36] |
boonies4u | oh? | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | what did you think lol | [22:37] |
boonies4u | I didn't know how much of mpex was traded | [22:38] |
boonies4u | is it all on the market? | [22:38] |
mircea_popescu | mm, you know it's reported monthly, there's a thread in btctalk | [22:38] |
boonies4u | actually i don;t | [22:39] |
boonies4u | don't* | [22:39] |
boonies4u | link? | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg1230084#msg1230084 | [22:40] |
boonies4u | oh good luck with that | [22:41] |
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boonies4u | you just think 30 btc would go to more than just bills and dividends | [22:44] |
boonies4u | you would* | [22:45] |
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mircea_popescu | 330 total last month actually | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | course back then the fee was 20 | [22:50] |
boonies4u | like I said... good luck :P | [22:51] |
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dub | mortal kombat - prom edition http://i.imgur.com/rk5oq.gif | [22:53] |
boonies4u | that's not the prom | [22:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32952 @ 0.00036366 = 11.9833 BTC [-] | [22:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10648 @ 0.00036461 = 3.8824 BTC [+] | [22:57] |
pigeons | thre goes mircea_popescu trading with himself again. except when he wears that black dress he actually thinks he's trading with someone else | [22:58] |
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rg | boonies4me | [22:59] |
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BTC-Mining | I trade on MPEx, pretty sure all trades are legit. | [23:01] |
BTC-Mining | Even if I don't like MP or his PR person's ways personally. | [23:01] |
BTC-Mining | The exchange is fine as far as I'm concerned. | [23:02] |
rg | mpoe-pr is a cunt | [23:05] |
rg | 4srs | [23:05] |
pigeons | well that's barnum pr | [23:05] |
jcpham | srs? | [23:05] |
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BTC-Mining | Yes, I keep saying this MPOE-PR keeps giving a bad name to his fine exchange. | [23:08] |
boonies4u | rg: did you want something? | [23:15] |
rg | no | [23:19] |
rg | i was just saying hai | [23:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00036361 = 3.4543 BTC [-] | [23:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00036361 = 6.8359 BTC [-] | [23:48] |
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