Forum logs for 04 Oct 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.1099 = 0.5495 BTC [-] [00:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [+] [00:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [+] [00:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.07065001 = 0.212 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.07065 BTC [-] [00:09]
mircea_popescu [Local Rules : Anyone can post in this thread, even people who are confused over their gender, can't do basic math, view failure as doing well and in general lack any idea of how to run a business] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 25 @ 0.0706 = 1.765 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06802 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 19 @ 0.068 = 1.292 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06412 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.06404 = 0.1281 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.06402 = 0.128 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06381 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06379 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06377 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.06202 = 0.3101 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.062003 = 0.124 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 23 @ 0.062 = 1.426 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.06199999 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.06132 = 0.2453 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 20 @ 0.0613 = 1.226 BTC [-] [00:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.061201 BTC [-] [00:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 20 @ 0.06112 = 1.2224 BTC [-] [00:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 67 @ 0.0611 = 4.0937 BTC [-] [00:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 74 @ 0.1099 = 8.1326 BTC [-] [00:13]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4100 @ 0.00045477 = 1.8646 BTC [+] [00:15]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BTCS] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [-] [00:17]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.11 = 3.96 BTC [+] [00:18]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [00:18]
gribble Best bid: 12.9001, Best ask: 12.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.04990, Last trade: 12.95, 24 hour volume: 33803, 24 hour low: 12.661, 24 hour high: 12.989 [00:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 8 @ 0.21089997 = 1.6872 BTC [+] [00:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1000 @ 0.3369956 = 336.9956 BTC [+] [00:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 700 @ 0.40587623 = 284.1134 BTC [+] [00:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [+] [00:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 250 @ 0.48215323 = 120.5383 BTC [+] [00:22]
OneEyed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-g2iGskFPE [00:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 5 @ 0.10001 = 0.5001 BTC [-] [00:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 64 @ 0.100001 = 6.4001 BTC [-] [00:25]
mircea_popescu gold is a horrible standard. [00:27]
OneEyed Yes. Bitcoin could replace it, that's why I shared this [00:32]
mircea_popescu you saw what happened to diamonds recently ? [00:33]
mircea_popescu i mean gold. one day someone finds a three by four by five kilometer gold rock under a sea somewhere and that's that. [00:34]
* Ignatius-otc goes long sea exploration [00:36]
Ignatius-otc http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121002150031.htm Superman-Strength Bacteria Produce 24-Karat Gold [00:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00036152 = 4.9528 BTC [-] [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11722 @ 0.00036159 = 4.2386 BTC [+] [00:47]
kakobrekla short it on bit4x :p [00:50]
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assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 20 @ 0.25 = 5 BTC [00:56]
mircea_popescu lol [00:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [00:57]
mircea_popescu speaking of scams : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115304.msg1243061 [00:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.21089997 BTC [+] [00:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00339 = 0.017 BTC [+] [01:02]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.00339 = 0.1695 BTC [+] [01:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.00339 = 0.0407 BTC [+] [01:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.07699989 = 0.154 BTC [+] [01:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18717 @ 0.00036048 = 6.7471 BTC [-] [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14478 @ 0.00035922 = 5.2008 BTC [-] [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.0034007 = 3.4007 BTC [-] [01:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 7500 @ 0.0034007 = 25.5053 BTC [-] [01:27]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.21089998 = 0.4218 BTC [+] [01:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.21089999 BTC [+] [01:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.2163 BTC [+] [01:31]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [-] [01:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 1 @ 0.00016 BTC [+] [01:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [+] [01:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4525006 BTC [-] [01:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 8 @ 0.45250059 = 3.62 BTC [-] [01:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.45240059 BTC [-] [01:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.56619996 = 1.1324 BTC [+] [01:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.21089997 = 1.0545 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 4 @ 0.45250061 = 1.81 BTC [+] [01:46]
dub Milk is murder! [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [007] 4 @ 0.081 = 0.324 BTC [-] [01:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [007] 10 @ 0.0808 = 0.808 BTC [-] [01:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [007] 7 @ 0.08051 = 0.5636 BTC [-] [01:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.0748899 BTC [+] [01:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.06945 BTC [+] [01:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.0695 = 0.139 BTC [+] [01:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.0699 = 0.1398 BTC [+] [01:48]
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kakobrekla whats with this milk thingy [01:49]
mircea_popescu lol dub [01:49]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla it's a btcmeme. [01:49]
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kakobrekla semms like im out of the loop [01:50]
kakobrekla seems [01:50]
smickles ;;seen nefario [01:50]
gribble nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [01:50]
smickles :o [01:50]
mircea_popescu the noob flashed in/out to reset the counter [01:50]
mircea_popescu but forgot to say anything [01:50]
kakobrekla lol [01:51]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla it's a funny usagi post where he says "milk is scammer" [01:51]
Diablo-D3 MILK IS SCAMMER?! [01:51]
Diablo-D3 BUT WHAT GOES GOOD WITH SANDVICH [01:51]
Diablo-D3 OM NOM NOM NOM NOM [01:51]
Diablo-D3 you are now reading everything I say in Heavy's voice. [01:52]
mircea_popescu i dont even know who heavy is [01:52]
Diablo-D3 too bad, I imagine I broke a lot of people's brains [01:52]
mircea_popescu you know most people with a degree don't verbalise what they read [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2157 @ 0.00045477 = 0.9809 BTC [+] [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 472 @ 0.00045477 = 0.2147 BTC [+] [01:53]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: its the meme effect [01:53]
Diablo-D3 same way if I go [01:53]
Diablo-D3 GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I INVENTED A MACHINE THAT MAKES YOU READ THIS IN MY VOICE! [01:53]
Azelphur I havn't heard your voice [01:53]
mircea_popescu he's prolly all whiny and geek-sounding [01:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.1091 = 3.9276 BTC [-] [01:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 64 @ 0.109 = 6.976 BTC [-] [01:55]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: No, I pretty much sound like you'd think Satan would sound like. [01:56]
mircea_popescu that's it then [01:56]
mircea_popescu i always thought satan sounds like a girl [01:56]
Diablo-D3 Smoovious: oh thop it! [01:56]
Diablo-D3 nope, I'm more like a white samuel l jackson [01:57]
kakobrekla yes, milk. it is funny. [01:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla :p [01:58]
kakobrekla i am not milk. [01:58]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 make me a vid saying trilema is great then [01:59]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: uh, no? [01:59]
Diablo-D3 dont have a camera anyhow [01:59]
kakobrekla then say trilema is bad [01:59]
kakobrekla you dont have a smartphone? [01:59]
mircea_popescu well the phone he has... [02:00]
Diablo-D3 kakobrekla: no, dont have a cell phone at all [02:00]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/bTGmi.png this is possibly the most retarded thing ever. [02:00]
kakobrekla no cell phone [02:00]
kakobrekla no camera [02:00]
kakobrekla no mic [02:00]
kakobrekla shut off lcd. [02:00]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: ARGH BRAIN HURT [02:01]
mircea_popescu i didn't know anyone could be this stupid [02:01]
mircea_popescu "let's give people arbitrary numbers of currency they can spend, this way they are invested" [02:01]
Diablo-D3 holy fuck its in my brain killing my brain cells [02:02]
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mircea_popescu "unlike the evil bitcoin people, who aren't invested, even tho they work for it and can spend it" [02:02]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: wait [02:02]
Diablo-D3 [07:01:59] "let's give people arbitrary numbers of currency they can spend, this way they are invested" [02:02]
Diablo-D3 isnt that basically the federal reserve way of banking? [02:02]
mircea_popescu yes. [02:02]
mircea_popescu solidcoin noob has made a fiat blockchain [02:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 67 @ 0.003205 = 0.2147 BTC [-] [02:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003201 = 0.1601 BTC [-] [02:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 343 @ 0.0032 = 1.0976 BTC [-] [02:05]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+] [02:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 3 @ 0.00999998 = 0.03 BTC [+] [02:17]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5540 @ 0.00045476 = 2.5194 BTC [-] [02:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 20 @ 0.00999999 = 0.2 BTC [+] [02:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [GOLD] 20 @ 0.00999999 = 0.2 BTC [+] [02:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [CBGB] 6 @ 0.48 = 2.88 BTC [-] [02:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+] [02:25]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 20 @ 0.00999999 = 0.2 BTC [+] [02:27]
smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.msg1243305#msg1243305 [02:27]
smickles an important announcement [02:27]
smickles re MPOE.ETF [02:27]
smickles and i'd just like to point out that it ipo'd at .1 and will buy back all shares at 1.29ish. with dividends all along the way, I believe it was quite possibly the best thing on GLBSE [02:29]
mircea_popescu o hey. [02:29]
kakobrekla yup [02:30]
kakobrekla too bad we didnt throw millions [02:30]
mircea_popescu lol peopel didn't really invest a lot in the good stuff, did they. [02:30]
kakobrekla nope [02:30]
kakobrekla seems scams are most popular [02:30]
mircea_popescu awell. [02:30]
BTC-Mining So... I'll have to do all the passthroughs on GLBSE now? [02:30]
BTC-Mining Seems all ops are closing down. [02:31]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining last in turns off the lights [02:31]
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assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [02:32]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 0.99999999 BTC [+] [02:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+] [02:33]
smickles jees, not to mention the usd/btc rate went up ~150% during its operation [02:34]
mircea_popescu now you're starting usagitalk. [02:35]
smickles ;) [02:35]
smickles i read that too :D [02:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [02:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.019 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 5 @ 0.017 = 0.085 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 9 @ 0.01502 = 0.1352 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 9 @ 0.01404 = 0.1264 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 36 @ 0.014 = 0.504 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [02:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [02:38]
Diablo-D3 smickles, mircea_popescu: I think the problem is this [02:40]
Diablo-D3 bitcoin sucks. [02:40]
mircea_popescu smickles so you actually have a 1k or w/e wall up ? [02:40]
mircea_popescu like, biggest wall in history of glbse ? [02:40]
smickles mircea_popescu: i'm about to request the withdrawal from mpex to glbse, so the wall will be up in due course ;) [02:42]
BTC-Mining When do you buy back? [02:42]
* mircea_popescu fails to process it, locks smickles accounts, gives him codes [02:43]
smickles i'll start as soon as the funds gets there [02:43]
smickles so judging from mircea_popescu's last statement, never [02:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00036132 = 12.1765 BTC [+] [02:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00036159 = 11.6794 BTC [+] [02:43]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: thats not even funny dude [02:43]
smickles :D [02:43]
mircea_popescu :D [02:43]
mircea_popescu smickles : 1284; 3488; 9501; 449x [02:44]
mircea_popescu 6674 [02:44]
mircea_popescu 19 [02:44]
mircea_popescu this concludes our legal obligations together. [02:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 21 @ 1 = 21 BTC [+] [02:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+] [02:45]
mircea_popescu lol ppl locking in a quick 20% [02:45]
smickles damn, if i had no ethics, those woul've been mine [02:45]
Ignatius-otc seemed like a smart move, too bad about that code only thing;) [02:45]
mircea_popescu :D [02:46]
smickles anyway, glbse gave me a badass deposit addy [02:47]
smickles 1Birt5ACuc72jCa4FmwSazyn6jBhvrEHvR [02:47]
smickles i read it as 1 birt ever [02:47]
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smickles or birtsac [02:48]
mircea_popescu smickles : stop libeling my exchange or else you will be banned! [02:48]
mircea_popescu also, local thread rules. [02:49]
smickles is slander ok? [02:49]
smickles lol [02:49]
mircea_popescu .wik slander [02:49]
markac "Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slander [02:49]
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mircea_popescu no dude its not ok wtf [02:49]
mircea_popescu o also [02:49]
mircea_popescu i think now [02:49]
mircea_popescu i have to [02:49]
mircea_popescu talk like [02:49]
mircea_popescu nefario [02:49]
BTC-Mining I don't have much ethics I guess then. I buy my own issue when I see orders too low. [02:49]
smickles BTC-Mining: it's only bad if you do it with non-public knowledge in mind [02:50]
BTC-Mining I avoid that. [02:50]
BTC-Mining Although... I operated a fixed interest loan, and BTC-MINING for which nothing ever happens. [02:50]
smickles so buying below a known book value is a-ok [02:50]
mircea_popescu smickles your book values were pretty well established [02:51]
BTC-Mining Wait, was the 1.29ish purchase announced on the forum already? [02:51]
smickles yup [02:51]
smickles but it's proper to wait a significant amount of time [02:52]
BTC-Mining Great. Unfortunatly you'd probably have to wait a bit to buy. Not instantly. [02:52]
BTC-Mining Or that's still unfair [02:52]
smickles and i've secretly known about it since the 1st [02:52]
BTC-Mining Aye [02:52]
mircea_popescu why's it unfair ? [02:53]
mircea_popescu there's no bids lol, the spread is .3 2.0 [02:53]
mircea_popescu !ticker mpoe.etf [02:53]
assbot [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 0.50000001] [Ask: 1.26383449] [Spread: 0.76383448] [Last: 1.2] [24hVol: 30.59999999] [7dAvg: 1.02857142] [02:53]
mircea_popescu o lol nm [02:53]
BTC-Mining Because if you announce something then buy 5 seconds afterward, nobody saw the news [02:53]
smickles i could've had bids in based of of the previous month's financials [02:53]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining still, there was a gap the size of alaska. [02:54]
mircea_popescu and he'd have bid in the gap [02:54]
mircea_popescu 48 1.26383449 [02:55]
mircea_popescu 64 2.0 [02:55]
mircea_popescu vs [02:55]
mircea_popescu 2 0.50000001 [02:55]
mircea_popescu 180 0.5 [02:55]
mircea_popescu 1 0.31 [02:55]
mircea_popescu 17 0.3 [02:55]
mircea_popescu etc [02:55]
smickles well, in my defense, i was otherwise occupied [02:57]
smickles oh, mircea_popescu it's not going to be a 1k wall because there's about 650 shares of treasure stock atm [03:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-] [03:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 5 @ 0.02 = 0.1 BTC [+] [03:06]
mircea_popescu .py 650 *1.26 [03:06]
markac 819.0 [03:06]
mircea_popescu so 820 k [03:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00036051 = 1.9107 BTC [-] [03:08]
dub neat http://pastebin.com/PfXUm3VQ [03:09]
mircea_popescu hahaah [03:10]
Ignatius-otc very nice dub [03:12]
smickles mircea_popescu: you got it a bit backwards [03:13]
smickles 650ish shares of _treasury_ stock (the stuff that doesn't get bought back b/c it's already in company hands) [03:14]
mircea_popescu ooo [03:16]
mircea_popescu so whats float, 500ish ? [03:16]
smickles mircea_popescu: 452 [03:16]
mircea_popescu a ok so like 500 [03:17]
Garr255 !ticker COGNITIVE [03:18]
smickles 571.25319803 [03:18]
mircea_popescu "Usagi should be viewed as a case study regarding what happens when a person with nearly zero knowledge of finance and business tries to manage a venture" [03:18]
assbot [GLBSE:COGNITIVE] [Bid: 0.5751] [Ask: 0.57915996] [Spread: 0.00405996] [Last: 0.57979] [24hVol: 20.02079491] [7dAvg: 0.4837692] [03:18]
mircea_popescu yup. [03:18]
kakobrekla damn i fail [03:19]
smickles kakobrekla: how is your forex thing going? did you launch yet? [03:19]
kakobrekla yea, its lauched. [03:20]
kakobrekla people seem to think im milk! [03:20]
smickles well, when I read what you planned to do, it was a little confusing [03:21]
kakobrekla as for self fail i was thinking about this [03:21]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102176.msg1243398#msg1243398 [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.0099879 = 0.0999 BTC [-] [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.009988 = 0.0599 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.00999 = 0.2997 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+] [03:21]
smickles damn kako, way 2 fail [03:21]
kakobrekla ya [03:21]
kakobrekla smickles well is it clear now or still confusing? [03:22]
mircea_popescu milk! [03:23]
smickles kakobrekla: i think i get it, but I wouldn't say I'm confident in my understanding. [03:25]
mircea_popescu smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115304.0 [03:25]
smickles for one thing, i've never traded traditional forex before, so that's one degree of separation ;) [03:25]
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dub Milk killed MJ! [03:26]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74975.msg1243259#msg1243259 o,o pitchfork team assembling at ludwig's gate. [03:26]
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dub GIPPT was a hilariously bad name for an asset [03:30]
dub Invest and get GYPPED [03:30]
* smickles checks glbse for btc [03:31]
mircea_popescu no mony for y [03:31]
mircea_popescu come back, 1 year! [03:31]
dub chinese antique dealer stole [03:32]
dub but I talk to him and he pay back [03:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6905 @ 0.00036159 = 2.4968 BTC [+] [03:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16961 @ 0.00036238 = 6.1463 BTC [+] [03:33]
smickles !pl mpoe.etf .1 [03:38]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [03:38]
assbot MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.02470282 BTC. Last price: 1.2 BTC. Capital gain: 1.1 BTC. Total: 1.12470282 BTC. (1124.7%) [03:38]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [03:38]
smickles it'll go up a little too [03:38]
smickles ;;bc,balance [03:39]
gribble Error: "bc,balance" is not a valid command. [03:39]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,imbalance [03:39]
gribble Error: "bc,imbalance" is not a valid command. [03:39]
mircea_popescu pff [03:39]
smickles .py 1.26383449/1.2638345 [03:40]
markac 0.999999992088 [03:40]
smickles apparantly, my word is worth .999999992088 bitcents on the coin [03:40]
smickles i wonder why someone would sell at a satoshi less than the buyback price [03:42]
BTC-Mining because a satoshi is worth the delay time? [03:42]
smickles i suppose that's the answer [03:43]
smickles so what's the average amount of confirms to get funds to show in glbse? [03:44]
mircea_popescu smickles prolly for the rebate. [03:46]
BTC-Mining ;;seen Nefario [03:46]
gribble Nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [03:46]
mircea_popescu they provide liquidity now [03:46]
smickles ;;bc,tblb [03:46]
gribble Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression. Please remove them. [03:46]
smickles lolwut? [03:46]
mircea_popescu you're selling inrto them, you pay fee. [03:46]
smickles ah, fees, i forgot about those [03:47]
BTC-Mining Well you said 1.29ish, not 1.29, so... [03:48]
BTC-Mining or am I not following at all? [03:48]
mircea_popescu thought he said 1.26 [03:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.1091 = 3.9276 BTC [+] [03:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 64 @ 0.109 = 6.976 BTC [-] [03:48]
BTC-Mining Yeah, I'm not really following [03:48]
BTC-Mining either way, MPEx fees are damn low [03:48]
mircea_popescu 20 btc. [03:49]
BTC-Mining I meant trading fees [03:49]
smickles BTC-Mining: i specified 1.2638345 in the forum post [03:49]
BTC-Mining Explains why there's offers at the price [03:49]
dub ;;bc,tslb [03:49]
smickles and someone is asking for literally 1 satoshi less [03:49]
gribble Time since last block: 13 minutes and 37 seconds [03:49]
dub hahahah [03:49]
smickles lol [03:50]
* dub is 1337 [03:50]
smickles dub wins the timing award [03:50]
mircea_popescu lol u dub it ? [03:50]
dub dub'd [03:50]
BTC-Mining 1 satoshi is always a good price to pay to remove delays [03:51]
mircea_popescu you won't be saying that once btc = 11million [03:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 28 @ 0.00016 = 0.0045 BTC [+] [03:52]
dub I'll be like 'remember when I bought DMC stock for 1 satoshi!' [03:53]
mircea_popescu lol [03:53]
dub of course DMC will by the AAPL of 12834AD [03:53]
BTC-Mining Holy crap! Almost forgot... [03:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [-] [03:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 5 @ 0.19 = 0.95 BTC [-] [03:55]
kakobrekla anno domini or after diablo? [03:55]
BTC-Mining After Diablo of course [03:55]
BTC-Mining There's the wednesday freeroll on Sealswithclub. Almost forgot it. [03:56]
BTC-Mining ~100 people competing for 5 BTC =P [03:57]
mircea_popescu lol [03:57]
BTC-Mining not much but still fun [03:57]
mircea_popescu last time he actually paid me like 2 [03:57]
mircea_popescu or .2 ? [03:57]
BTC-Mining ? [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 10 @ 0.0145 = 0.145 BTC [-] [03:57]
mircea_popescu http://www.thepreciousmetal.com/images/Silver_Mexican_Libertad_Coins.jpg i really like her tits. [03:57]
BTC-Mining Oh the bet? [03:57]
BTC-Mining It was 0.02 if I lose, and you give me 2 if I won first place. [03:58]
BTC-Mining I think [03:58]
BTC-Mining 1:100 ration [03:58]
BTC-Mining ratio* [03:58]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6400 @ 0.00045474 = 2.9103 BTC [-] [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26563 @ 0.00036051 = 9.5762 BTC [-] [03:59]
mircea_popescu aha yea [03:59]
BTC-Mining Fun times wasting a bit of bitcoins. [03:59]
mircea_popescu :p [04:00]
BTC-Mining When they are 11 million as you say, remember when I paid you 220 000 USD [04:00]
mircea_popescu :D [04:00]
dub rule 34 on michelle and ann tbh [04:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 48 @ 1.26383449 = 60.6641 BTC [+] [04:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 192 @ 1.2638345 = 242.6562 BTC [+] [04:03]
mircea_popescu who're they ? [04:04]
BTC-Mining 11 million dollars x 21 million BTC = 231 trillion dollars [04:04]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining not very much but a start. [04:04]
dub obama and romneys wife [04:04]
mircea_popescu o those ? [04:04]
mircea_popescu i'd rather see the daughters go at it tbh [04:04]
BTC-Mining Lol, it's actually a lot worldwide. [04:04]
BTC-Mining Who bought MPOE? [04:05]
BTC-Mining at the price smickles is going to buy them back? [04:05]
rdponticelli Somebody in deep need of a satoshi of profit? [04:06]
rdponticelli lol [04:06]
rdponticelli Probably somebody who saw people buying, and bet on a rally? [04:07]
mircea_popescu Someone bought ? [04:07]
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rdponticelli And who obviously doesn't know about the buyback... [04:07]
smickles "I will place a bid to fulfill this end as soon as I have moved funds into the account on GLBSE." [04:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1.25039734 BTC [-] [04:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 69 @ 1.25039733 = 86.2774 BTC [-] [04:12]
rdponticelli smickles: So you're not buying back but placing a bidwall? [04:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 12 @ 0.56558994 = 6.7871 BTC [-] [04:13]
rdponticelli :( [04:13]
smickles rdponticelli: it's the way nefario has us do it [04:14]
mircea_popescu !ticker mpoe.etf [04:14]
assbot [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 1.25039733] [Ask: 1.89999999] [Spread: 0.64960266] [Last: 1.25039733] [24hVol: 421.44809262] [7dAvg: 1.11167851] [04:14]
mircea_popescu i don't understand. how can it trade at 1.25 if you have wall at 1.26 ?! [04:14]
smickles huh? [04:14]
* smickles looks [04:15]
mircea_popescu [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 69 @ 1.25039733 = 86.2774 BTC [-] [04:15]
mircea_popescu how the heck ?! [04:15]
rdponticelli The wall is @1.25 [04:15]
BTC-Mining this not wall, this trick wall [04:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 21 @ 1.2638345 = 26.5405 BTC [+] [04:21]
smickles there's the wall [04:22]
rdponticelli There it goes... [04:22]
rdponticelli Was a pleasure [04:22]
smickles it was nice while it lasted :) :( [04:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00035922 = 11.2795 BTC [-] [04:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34776 @ 0.00035919 = 12.4912 BTC [-] [04:24]
mircea_popescu so did you have fun with it smickles ? [04:25]
mircea_popescu 5 months, best fund in btc history by returns, etc [04:25]
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rdponticelli By far [04:25]
mircea_popescu !pl mpoe.etf .1 [04:26]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [04:26]
assbot MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.02470282 BTC. Last price: 1.2638345 BTC. Capital gain: 1.1638345 BTC. Total: 1.18853732 BTC. (1188.5%) [04:26]
mircea_popescu that 1188% is definitive i'd guess [04:26]
rdponticelli Well, to be true, I did not follow SS [04:26]
mircea_popescu !pl SS .1 [04:26]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [04:26]
mircea_popescu was it .1 ? [04:26]
smickles mircea_popescu: i found it to be quite nice. I liked accounting for it :) [04:26]
assbot SS [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.59075039 BTC. Last price: 0.0111 BTC. Capital gain: -0.0889 BTC. Total: 0.50185039 BTC. (501.9%) [04:26]
smickles SS? well, !pl won't work for ss [04:27]
mircea_popescu hah! 509, not quite up to 4 digit par! [04:27]
mircea_popescu o it split huh [04:27]
smickles yeah [04:27]
mircea_popescu so whats fair % ? [04:27]
smickles let me see... [04:27]
smickles also, i'm basically just the accountant for SS [04:28]
dub Mitt loves big bird [04:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 10 @ 0.25 = 2.5 BTC [04:29]
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assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 100 @ 0.25 = 25 BTC [04:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 25 @ 1.2638345 = 31.5959 BTC [+] [04:29]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoinica.com/ such asshattery. [04:29]
BTC-Mining I call this free money [04:30]
dub haha [04:30]
BTC-Mining I was the one who bought the pack at of ETF at 1 BTC each [04:30]
BTC-Mining few moments later 1.26 sold [04:30]
BTC-Mining What I call good transaction. [04:30]
mircea_popescu lol [04:30]
rdponticelli You beat me for a little [04:31]
BTC-Mining you were going for them too eh? [04:31]
rdponticelli I bought 2 [04:31]
rdponticelli Was what I have at hand [04:31]
rdponticelli *had [04:31]
BTC-Mining yeah, I had nothing in hand and was cancelling bids during that time [04:31]
mircea_popescu lmao [04:32]
rdponticelli I'm running out of glbse [04:32]
rdponticelli Yea, me too [04:32]
BTC-Mining I'm getting good money from everyone running out =/ [04:32]
rdponticelli Cancelled some bids [04:32]
rdponticelli Almost sold some stock [04:32]
rdponticelli Well, I'm not precisely running out [04:33]
rdponticelli But when I got out of a stock, I take out the btc [04:33]
rdponticelli I'm not liquidating [04:33]
rdponticelli Just lowering exposure [04:34]
BTC-Mining eh, and I probably have too much exposure [04:36]
BTC-Mining Only reason I don't run funds by the way is that would interfere with my personal portfolio and I don't want to keep track to not cross-trade. [04:38]
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BTC-Mining I'll have to pick up MPEx assets passthroughs [04:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.49979956 = 0.9996 BTC [+] [04:39]
BTC-Mining GLBSE need those [04:39]
kakobrekla hooraa, i just stole my own password. [04:39]
BTC-Mining ... ? [04:39]
kakobrekla from self. [04:39]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla huh ? [04:40]
kakobrekla i use password manager [04:40]
kakobrekla so i dont know any of my passwords [04:40]
BTC-Mining oh... [04:40]
smickles mircea_popescu: based on the last price, ss would be a 75.891883% gain when you include dividend payments [04:40]
kakobrekla now i needed to get one out somehow [04:40]
mircea_popescu smickles a, well that's no competition then [04:40]
BTC-Mining are you closing SS too? [04:40]
mircea_popescu i think sc2m was closed [04:40]
smickles s2cm hasn't closed [04:41]
BTC-Mining Great [04:41]
mircea_popescu o ? my bad. [04:41]
kakobrekla so i hacked opera magic wand with javascript [04:41]
mircea_popescu lol kakobrekla you know who i do this to all the time ? [04:41]
mircea_popescu GIRLS! [04:41]
kakobrekla lol [04:41]
rdponticelli So you stole the password to your password manager, not to you [04:42]
kakobrekla and milk [04:42]
BTC-Mining what's up with people complaining GLBSE/SEC all the time? [04:42]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining paranoia. [04:42]
BTC-Mining SEC was never interested in GLBSE directly [04:42]
BTC-Mining People fear the governments... governments fear people... [04:42]
smickles mircea_popescu: no competition? s2cm ate bad debt via pirate and still gives its shareholders a gain. I'd say that's an epic win [04:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.3322 BTC [+] [04:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 3 @ 1.332191 = 3.9966 BTC [-] [04:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.33219 BTC [-] [04:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.33009 BTC [-] [04:43]
BTC-Mining Why do you think governments keep doing stuff short-term with poor long-term benefits? Because all those damned politicians are interested in their career and current popularity, not what will be achieved in a few decades. [04:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 25 @ 0.25 = 6.25 BTC [04:44]
BTC-Mining It's an annoying tendency, parties want to do thing bringing them instant recognition [04:44]
mircea_popescu smickles i meant ss's <100% is no competition for mpoe.etf's 1188% as "highest return thibng" [04:44]
smickles ah, well, yeah [04:45]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining the same way ppl "invested" you mean ? [04:45]
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rdponticelli You should have a trophy [04:45]
mircea_popescu he does. [04:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 350 @ 0.25 = 87.5 BTC [04:45]
mircea_popescu it's called smickles. [04:46]
rdponticelli lol [04:46]
BTC-Mining wth is lottomining [04:46]
smickles rdponticelli: you know what smickles means, don't you? [04:46]
BTC-Mining looks shady [04:46]
smickles "to be really good" [04:46]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining you DO NOT want to know [04:46]
mircea_popescu it will hurt. [04:46]
BTC-Mining simply because it says lotto [04:46]
mircea_popescu .tr smickles [04:47]
markac mircea_popescu: "smickles" (de to en, translate.google.com) [04:47]
smickles .o ud smickles [04:47]
markac 1) To be really good. 2) As replacement to okay or great. Note: Usually said with half-hearted meaning or sarcasm OR with little or no interest in the subject of the conversation.A type of happy-go-l [04:47]
smickles :D [04:47]
mircea_popescu :D [04:47]
rdponticelli smickles: so you also deserve the trophy to humility [04:47]
rdponticelli :) [04:47]
BTC-Mining argh... it's awful... [04:48]
smickles and it's a nickname which I gave myself in 1992 [04:48]
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BTC-Mining But as long as they actually buy the tickets... [04:48]
smickles so rdponticelli, I came up with the term before it had a meaning [04:48]
BTC-Mining It's just not really an investment... [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42110024 BTC [-] [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.42110023 = 0.8422 BTC [-] [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4211002 BTC [-] [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 9 @ 0.42110003 = 3.7899 BTC [-] [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.42110002 BTC [-] [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 35 @ 0.421 = 14.735 BTC [-] [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.4002 BTC [-] [04:48]
BTC-Mining It's purely gambling... [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.39983965 BTC [-] [04:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 370 @ 0.391 = 144.67 BTC [-] [04:48]
BitcoinBear playing the lottery? [04:48]
rdponticelli smickles: Maybe it got the meaning after you ;) [04:48]
smickles BTC-Mining: also, that sort of operation has been deemed illegal, even in the country where they buy the tickets [04:49]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining i told you. [04:49]
BTC-Mining Probably is, yes [04:49]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3263 @ 0.00045475 = 1.4838 BTC [+] [04:49]
BTC-Mining I don't know for sure, but probably [04:49]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 300 @ 0.00045475 = 0.1364 BTC [+] [04:49]
BTC-Mining Like 99.9% chance [04:49]
Chaang-Noi we need to hit 13 [04:50]
smickles hasn't it already? [04:50]
smickles ;;ticker [04:50]
gribble Best bid: 12.8903, Best ask: 12.9899, Bid-ask spread: 0.09960, Last trade: 12.89, 24 hour volume: 31354, 24 hour low: 12.7, 24 hour high: 12.99 [04:50]
BitcoinBear 13 what? [04:50]
smickles oh, it did on bitfloor [04:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 215 @ 0.0145 = 3.1175 BTC [-] [04:51]
BitcoinBear oh, right, nevermind [04:51]
rdponticelli bitfloor is running again? [04:51]
smickles seems so [04:51]
BTC-Mining By the way BitcoinBear, about your thread of what's worth investing in. [04:51]
Chaang-Noi there is a bit of a wall on gox [04:51]
dub 'bama looks like he's getting ready to rip asshole [04:51]
BTC-Mining You took a look at BTC-MINING/BTC-BOND? [04:51]
BitcoinBear yeah? [04:51]
rdponticelli Greatest bitcoin frb [04:51]
dub can see the killer stare [04:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 142 @ 0.0144 = 2.0448 BTC [-] [04:52]
BitcoinBear hrm, not very hard, should I [04:52]
BitcoinBear ? [04:52]
BTC-Mining Maybe [04:52]
BTC-Mining Also the Kraken one is run by me too. [04:52]
rdponticelli That's gonna hurt my bank account [04:52]
BitcoinBear I thought Kraken was somebody else? [04:53]
BitcoinBear Oh, wait, you run the pass-through? [04:53]
BTC-Mining yeah [04:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 150 @ 0.0143 = 2.145 BTC [-] [04:53]
BTC-Mining Have you seen the contract on BTC-BOND and the holdings report? [04:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 255 @ 0.0142 = 3.621 BTC [-] [04:54]
BTC-Mining oh damn, I see why LOTTOMINING is still getting so much people in. [04:54]
BTC-Mining It was issued by mc_lovin [04:55]
BTC-Mining I hope the thread was made in the gambling section tho... [04:55]
asa1024 oh jesus it was listed? [04:55]
BTC-Mining yeah... [04:55]
mircea_popescu asa1024 glbse new standards. [04:56]
BTC-Mining GLBSE is really free-for-all... Investment or not... [04:56]
asa1024 why not just have a trash can on the desk top and you can drag your bit coin wallet to the trash can and empty it?> [04:56]
dub MUST be a scam [04:56]
mircea_popescu onyl lists quality assets that are in clear violation of laws in all countries involved. [04:56]
BitcoinBear ack, GLBSE running very slow for me today :( [04:57]
BTC-Mining Actually, GLBSE will be split. Assets respecting regulations will be on GLBSE. [04:57]
BTC-Mining Other assets will be moved away. [04:57]
BTC-Mining I heard [04:57]
kakobrekla moved away as in couponized [04:57]
kakobrekla ? [04:57]
BTC-Mining No [04:57]
BTC-Mining Those other assets will go to a black market [04:57]
BTC-Mining GLBSE will move toward more MPEx like standards, rest will be moved out. [04:58]
BTC-Mining Black market might look like the current GLBSE, idk... [04:59]
smickles lol, assets respecting regs will stay on GLBSE? [05:00]
BitcoinBear they set up the different colors, but everything is still in pink [05:00]
smickles you don't know the regs in 'merica [05:00]
Chaang-Noi what real company would list on glbse? [05:00]
BTC-Mining No idea. [05:01]
Chaang-Noi maybe 6 months ago but nothing now [05:01]
Chaang-Noi glbse is going to die [05:01]
smickles none right now (if they have a lawyer) [05:01]
smickles what countries don't have securities regulations? [05:03]
BitcoinBear who is it that is always outbidding me by 1 satoshi? It is obnoxious! [05:03]
BTC-Mining smickles, american regulations don't matter much if it's a UK market and regulated as per UK laws... americans on GLBSE would be trading on a foreign market. [05:03]
BTC-Mining I'm not sure how it would work exactly. [05:04]
BitcoinBear It is especially bad when GLBSE is running slow, going through all those page turns just to move an order up a tiny bit to outbid them >:( [05:05]
BTC-Mining But probably involve registering each asset as a free trading one and involve a quite a bit more paperwork from everyone. And GLBSE would act as a broker for those. [05:05]
BTC-Mining More than a full fledged stock market. [05:05]
BTC-Mining To keep it more realistic. [05:05]
BTC-Mining I don't know tho... [05:05]
mircea_popescu GLBSE will move toward more MPEx like standards, << this can't hurt anything [05:06]
mircea_popescu BitcoinBaltar prolly BTC-Mining [05:07]
mircea_popescu he's the only one left buying afawk [05:07]
BTC-Mining no, indeed. [05:07]
BTC-Mining We still need some kind of "black, free for all markets". No wrong in lack of regulations. [05:07]
BitcoinBear afawk? what does that stand for? [05:07]
mircea_popescu as far as we know [05:08]
BTC-Mining We really need serious exchanges/brokers [05:08]
mircea_popescu and mpex is perfectly black in that sense. [05:08]
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mircea_popescu it's not black in the sense it doesn't allow listing of shit. it's black i nthe sense it really doesn't care who calls himself "government" [05:08]
mircea_popescu should be a perfect combo. [05:08]
BitcoinBear MP you have a plural knowledgebase? usually it is afaik, right? [05:08]
mircea_popescu BitcoinBear well yea. [05:09]
BTC-Mining Indeed. Although it's not free for all. Highling requiring for quality assets only. [05:09]
BTC-Mining So black market, but not free to everyone to issue anything. [05:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 25 @ 0.25 = 6.25 BTC [05:09]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining something like that. [05:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1.2638345 BTC [+] [05:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.11 = 0.88 BTC [+] [05:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 25 @ 0.25 = 6.25 BTC [05:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00035925 = 0.467 BTC [+] [05:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00989 BTC [+] [05:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.9718 BTC [+] [05:16]
BTC-Mining So, had a look at contract and spreadsheet for BTC-BOND, BitcoinBear? [05:17]
BitcoinBear I'm still waiting for the page to load, stupid slow glbse mumble muble mppff [05:17]
BTC-Mining ... [05:17]
BTC-Mining wow... my pages load faster than that [05:18]
BTC-Mining already loaded a few since then [05:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.5751 = 1.7253 BTC [-] [05:20]
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BitcoinBear Ok, I admit, I think I just missed BTC-Bond when I was going through all the assets trying to find anything. Looks pretty good. [05:24]
BTC-Mining Aye. It doesn't pay much however. [05:25]
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BTC-Mining But I carry most of the risks. [05:25]
BitcoinBear BTC-Mining how actively do you trade the assets? [05:25]
BTC-Mining Almost daily, there's trades. [05:25]
BitcoinBear not pay much? it is still a better return than my credit card gets from me! [05:25]
BTC-Mining Yeah, it's 26% per year. [05:26]
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BitcoinBear and why is the price below the listed price? just the recent selloff of people leaving glbse? [05:26]
BTC-Mining I believe so [05:27]
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assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 5 @ 0.25 = 1.25 BTC [05:28]
BTC-Mining I started with 1900$ around around April/May for ~400 BTC and then in end June/August, purchased for 5500 for ~ 500 BTC. [05:28]
BTC-Mining I those few months, you can see my personal portfolio went from ~900 BTC to ~1500. [05:29]
BTC-Mining That's around 2-5% per week depending on the week. [05:30]
BTC-Mining I end up trading a lot. [05:30]
dub what the fuck [05:30]
BitcoinBear In the spreadsheet, why is MPOE.ETF listed as a 0 value? just because it has not been traded in a while? [05:30]
dub youtube fucked up [05:30]
BTC-Mining Yeah, price is taken from API [05:31]
BTC-Mining Last update was yesterday [05:31]
BTC-Mining and there had been no trades in the last 5 days [05:31]
BitcoinBear we just saw one a minute ago, so that should update at some point. [05:32]
BTC-Mining I have to republish it regularly [05:32]
BTC-Mining because the API tool often inserts Errors because GLBSE api times out. [05:33]
BTC-Mining Screws up the whole totals and percent when a cell fills with "error" [05:33]
smickles BitcoinBear: mpoe.etf is winding down, you know [05:33]
BTC-Mining yeah, made 5 BTC on that [05:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 50 @ 0.25 = 12.5 BTC [05:34]
BitcoinBear oh, I hadn't heard that [05:34]
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assbot [GLBSE] [LOTTOMINING] 50 @ 0.25 = 12.5 BTC [05:35]
BTC-Mining He was buying back at 1.26 [05:35]
BTC-Mining I bought 20 around 1 [05:35]
BitcoinBear is it just MPOE.ETF, or also the underlying asset of MPEx? [05:35]
mircea_popescu just the etf. [05:35]
BTC-Mining just the ETF [05:35]
BitcoinBear any reason why? [05:35]
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dub https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4U7Ec_CMAAeqkk.jpg [05:36]
BTC-Mining most are leaving GLBSE [05:36]
BTC-Mining or not enough time [05:36]
BTC-Mining Especially since they make around 5% of profits from funds/passthrough they manage. [05:37]
BTC-Mining You don't earn much [05:37]
BTC-Mining Especially if you manage a 500 BTC fund which earn 1-2 % (5-10 BTC weekly), then get 5% of that (0.25 to 0.5 BTC weekly) [05:38]
BTC-Mining Which is 2.5$ to 5$ [05:38]
BTC-Mining What's the incentive to be there, trading daily? [05:38]
mircea_popescu most peoplewere doing it for the fun [05:39]
mircea_popescu as the atmosphere turned sour... [05:39]
BTC-Mining That's a major problem... [05:39]
mircea_popescu not even sure its a problem. this isn;'t the thing should be done "for fun" [05:39]
mircea_popescu it's like throwing grenades for fun [05:40]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 537 @ 0.00045475 = 0.2442 BTC [+] [05:40]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3700 @ 0.00045475 = 1.6826 BTC [+] [05:40]
BTC-Mining I mean, you don't manage a fund just for the fun of it... [05:40]
BTC-Mining That's what I was referring to as a major problem. [05:41]
BitcoinBear right, you could do some invsting on your own for fun, but taking other peoples money to play with is a bad idea [05:41]
mircea_popescu a yeah [05:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [+] [05:42]
smickles I did it because there was a market opportunity. and I structured it in a way that the workload was minimal [05:42]
mircea_popescu you barely traded did you [05:43]
smickles mostly, i had buys in to catch the dips which went much further than they should've [05:43]
smickles if there were more funds to work with, i would've been able to do it more efficiently [05:44]
BTC-Mining I started with 400 BTC (2k USD) for the fun of it. When I found trading profit was good, I placed more and started taking loans at a small rate, putting my portfolio in front of it to protect against loss of lent funds. [05:44]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Oct 1 23:12:50 2012 [16:00]
mircea_popescu o rg paid divs i see [16:00]
rg yeah [16:01]
rg but i forgot to pay some money [16:01]
rg so in eed to pay extra [16:01]
rg can i do that [16:01]
mircea_popescu sure [16:01]
mircea_popescu where's your p&l i forget ? [16:01]
rg i can just do the same dividend [16:01]
rg but with the extra div [16:01]
rg ? [16:01]
rg er [16:01]
rg that's terribly explained [16:01]
rg i can just do a dividend with the missing amount? [16:01]
rg my p&l is in a leafpad session [16:03]
rg almost ready to be copy/pasted [16:03]
rg i wnat to finish the new bitvps site [16:03]
rg god admn it [16:03]
mircea_popescu "At the moment, we don't see the virtual currency market as a good [16:03]
mircea_popescu opportunity for our business. " [16:03]
mircea_popescu bah [16:03]
rg pff [16:03]
rg who said that? [16:03]
mircea_popescu rg : withhold it [16:03]
mircea_popescu and pay it aliong with next month div [16:04]
rg no i dont wnna do that [16:04]
rg that's gay [16:04]
mircea_popescu rg i was trying to get some sports bookies into btc [16:04]
mircea_popescu rg it's how it's done man. [16:04]
mircea_popescu you say this is owed, we paid this much, paying rest next month cause dongs. [16:04]
rg oh theyre dumb [16:05]
rg btc gambling is huge [16:05]
rg and untaxed [16:05]
rg all they'd have to do is create an anonymous entity [16:05]
rg and keep it away from their real business [16:05]
rg can you take 23 BTC out of my account [16:05]
rg and hold it in your account [16:05]
rg until its time for next divs? [16:05]
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mircea_popescu rg i know [16:11]
mircea_popescu what can you do [16:11]
mircea_popescu rg why wouldd i do that lol. you just don't spend it! [16:11]
mircea_popescu it'll be a growth experience :D [16:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2088 @ 0.00035759 = 0.7466 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37878 @ 0.00035741 = 13.538 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.0003573 = 5.6096 BTC [-] [16:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2034 @ 0.00035729 = 0.7267 BTC [-] [16:12]
rg no [16:12]
rg ill spend it on shares [16:12]
rg look how low mpoe is [16:12]
rg ;;calc 175000 * 0.00035729 [16:13]
gribble 62.52575 [16:13]
rg ;;calc 175000 * 0.00042001 [16:13]
gribble 73.50175 [16:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.07689999 = 0.3076 BTC [-] [16:15]
mircea_popescu ya it's been off the high since all this sec talk [16:16]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 200 @ 0.04 = 8 BTC [+] [16:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-] [16:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-] [16:31]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/bitpay-and-the-magical-email-confirmation/ sooo bitpay doesn't actually do opt-in [16:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 15 @ 0.0666 = 0.999 BTC [-] [16:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00035729 = 4.7877 BTC [-] [16:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.44889676 BTC [+] [16:39]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.1499 BTC [+] [16:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.01028 BTC [+] [16:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.109 = 0.218 BTC [-] [16:45]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.0769 = 0.1538 BTC [+] [16:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [RSM] 9 @ 0.295 = 2.655 BTC [+] [16:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 9 @ 0.07007253 = 0.6307 BTC [+] [17:00]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115393.0 [17:21]
mircea_popescu so have they run off ? [17:21]
femtotube who? Nefario and others? [17:23]
mircea_popescu yea [17:23]
jcpham if you can't trust a guy named nefario, who can you trust? [17:25]
jcpham amirite [17:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2900 @ 0.00045475 = 1.3188 BTC [-] [17:26]
mircea_popescu bum-tschhh [17:26]
smickles :o [17:38]
smickles first news of th day [17:38]
rg smickles [17:38]
smickles rg [17:38]
rg want to do me a favor/ [17:38]
rg ? [17:38]
smickles If I can, and want to [17:39]
smickles i will [17:39]
rg can you hold onto 20 BTC for me [17:39]
rg for a month? [17:39]
smickles just hold onto it? [17:39]
smickles mind if I ask why you can't hold onto it? [17:39]
rg lol well you can pay me interest if you want [17:39]
rg its personal [17:40]
rg its a weird sex thing, you dont want to know [17:40]
smickles alright, lemme gen an addy for you [17:40]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [17:41]
gribble Best bid: 12.92012, Best ask: 12.998, Bid-ask spread: 0.07788, Last trade: 12.998, 24 hour volume: 30051, 24 hour low: 12.7025, 24 hour high: 13.01 [17:41]
rg if you dont wann [17:42]
rg i can just ask imsaguy [17:42]
rg imsaguy is always down to hold onto fnuds [17:42]
rg funds [17:42]
rg he's like a pirateat40 who doesn't scam you [17:42]
imsaguy2 /was/ [17:42]
imsaguy2 I'm a scammer now. [17:42]
rg me too [17:42]
smickles loldude, < smickles> alright, lemme gen an addy for you [17:42]
rg im trying to scam smickles right now [17:42]
rg but hes making it har [17:42]
rg d [17:42]
imsaguy2 sounds good [17:42]
imsaguy2 TAKE MY MONEY! [17:42]
rg im gonna send him 20 btc [17:43]
rg then tell him i sent him 25 btc [17:43]
rg next month [17:43]
mircea_popescu imsaguy2 give it hiar. [17:44]
imsaguy2 mircea_popescu: you pay interest?! [17:44]
mircea_popescu depends. am i keeping your principal ? [17:44]
imsaguy2 are we making a perpetual annuity? [17:44]
rg wait [17:44]
mircea_popescu i dunno, trying to figure it out :D [17:44]
rg are you paying interest again mircea?! [17:44]
rg say yes [17:45]
rg you fucker [17:45]
mircea_popescu well, mpcd.x pays interest, and so do mpoe bonds [17:45]
rg i dont want that shit [17:45]
rg im a very simple man mircea [17:45]
mircea_popescu actually mpcd would be ideal for mpex companies seeing how it pays on the 1st [17:45]
rg i liked it the way it was before [17:45]
imsaguy2 what's the rate? [17:45]
mircea_popescu a 2% b 3% c 9.x%, but cdo so beware. [17:45]
rg mircea says that he cant figure out how to do interest anymroe [17:45]
rg so he just stopped [17:45]
rg and started keeping the % [17:45]
mircea_popescu rg lol you tryin to pressure me ? [17:46]
rg i want my .5 btc/day you arse face [17:46]
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rg mircea_popescu: only for the past 5 months [17:46]
mircea_popescu rg srsly, if you had 20 btc in mpcd.A it'd have paid you .4 on the 1st [17:46]
rg but i dont understand that shit [17:46]
smickles rg: http://bitbin.it/pDKrS7vw [17:46]
rg and i dont wanna know [17:46]
mircea_popescu rg wellllll then [17:46]
rg i liked it when i didn't have to do anything [17:46]
rg and it just paid me every day [17:46]
imsaguy2 2%/month? [17:46]
rg and i would be like oo [17:46]
* smickles reads log [17:46]
rg nice [17:46]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114442.msg1244763#msg1244763 [17:46]
mircea_popescu in other news, nefario is utterly fucked [17:47]
mircea_popescu i'd very much want to hear what maged has to say now to turn it into a "misunderstanding" [17:47]
rg puhleaze [17:47]
* rg stands by nefario [17:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 14 @ 0.56509999 = 7.9114 BTC [-] [17:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.5651 = 1.6953 BTC [+] [17:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.56515 = 1.6955 BTC [+] [17:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 1 @ 0.04949999 BTC [+] [17:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 3 @ 0.0769 = 0.2307 BTC [+] [17:48]
rg i bet nefario would pay me interest... [17:48]
mircea_popescu in lottery tickets [17:48]
smickles this is a bait and switch, i swear [17:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.109499 = 0.657 BTC [+] [17:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 94 @ 0.1096 = 10.3024 BTC [+] [17:49]
copumpkin that's why I wanted nefario to stop trying to regulate that shit [17:49]
smickles ;;rate rg -1 uses dirty sales tactics [17:49]
copumpkin he'd have some sort of "safe harbor"-like argument to make if he just insisted on being completely hands-off [17:50]
copumpkin but if he touches some of the issues and not others, he's sort of tacitly condoning the ones he lets through [17:50]
smickles safe harbor in securities exchange? [17:50]
copumpkin well, I'm not saying it'd be legally viable [17:50]
copumpkin but he could make that argument informally at least [17:50]
smickles ah, just for consistency, you argue [17:50]
imsaguy2 safe harbor doesn't apply if the creation itself is illegal [17:50]
copumpkin smickles: he has no requirement to regulate it [17:50]
copumpkin yeah [17:50]
copumpkin he chose to selectively regulate it [17:51]
copumpkin and now people are holding the occurrences where he didn't step in against him [17:51]
copumpkin which is precisely the kind of things safe harbor laws protect against [17:51]
copumpkin I'm not saying it does apply, just that it's analogous [17:51]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 415 @ 0.00045476 = 0.1887 BTC [+] [17:51]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1000 @ 0.00045476 = 0.4548 BTC [+] [17:51]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2800 @ 0.00045476 = 1.2733 BTC [+] [17:51]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1885 @ 0.00045476 = 0.8572 BTC [+] [17:51]
copumpkin and he could make the argument on the forum if he'd kept his paws out of it [17:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20231 @ 0.00035729 = 7.2283 BTC [-] [17:51]
copumpkin IANAL but I engage in it regularly with mircea_popescu [17:52]
imsaguy2 Who's the 'intern'? [17:52]
smickles copumpkin: is there any legal pitfalls in calling yourself an arbitor or mediator [17:53]
copumpkin smickles: buttsex [17:53]
smickles that's more of a spike trap, copumpkin [17:53]
copumpkin I don't think it's really possible to make any legal calls here :) your guesses would be more educated if you were a lawyer [17:54]
copumpkin but IANAL [17:54]
jcpham everytime i see that acronym i think of anal [17:54]
jcpham i know it's about lawyers [17:54]
copumpkin hence my mentions of mircea_popescu and buttsex [17:54]
jcpham but i think anal [17:54]
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rg We were not meant to experience life through a machine [17:56]
* smickles should've been mining at all these hotels along the way [18:00]
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* smickles should've had a a few dozen fpga miners ready for this journey and plugged them in at every hotel along the way [18:03]
smickles rg: why doesn't running bitcoin-qt thru a socks proxy to my vps work very well? [18:04]
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rg hmm [18:10]
rg what kinda socks proxy [18:10]
smickles ssh -DN [18:10]
rg oh hmm [18:10]
rg i was just going to suggest using that [18:10]
rg instead of whatever you're doing [18:10]
rg umm what exactly do you mean by [18:10]
rg 'doesnt work very well' [18:10]
rg mind you, you wont be able to accept connections on it [18:11]
rg so your connection count will be low [18:11]
smickles it never gets more than 8 connections.. oh, well, the second thing is that a lot of the connections seem to time out [18:11]
smickles and some get refused [18:11]
smickles channel 15: open failed: connect failed: Connection timed out [18:12]
smickles channel 15: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused [18:12]
rg oh [18:12]
rg that's not your fault [18:12]
rg or the proxy [18:12]
smickles okies [18:12]
rg those are just other people who're NAT'd/proxied [18:12]
rg they advertise their IP/port to the network [18:12]
rg but if they're nat'd [18:12]
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rg it will be invalid [18:12]
rg unless its forwarded [18:12]
smickles just my ignorant me seeing output, eh? [18:12]
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Bugpowder GLBSE is offline We will update our users on Saturday. [18:13]
smickles is there a way to open the port to the bitcoin somehow? [18:13]
Bugpowder mother fucker [18:13]
smickles huh? [18:13]
Bugpowder he took it all [18:13]
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Bugpowder GLBSE is dead [18:13]
jcpham no way [18:13]
smickles wow, i'm glad i cashed out >200btc yesterday [18:14]
smickles I did that the day b/f 'coinica died too [18:14]
rg that's weird [18:14]
rg wtf is up [18:14]
Bugpowder I moved 1300 BTC off... still have 60 there in GIGAMINING [18:14]
area Huh, wow [18:14]
rg saturday is far awy [18:15]
Bugpowder www.glbse.com [18:15]
rg isnt there a forum post [18:15]
rg or something [18:15]
smickles maybe they were fractional reserve, and suffered a bank run [18:15]
rg maybe it got owned :-D [18:15]
Bugpowder probalby a bank run [18:15]
rg ;;calc 1300 * [ticker --last] [18:15]
gribble 16900 [18:15]
rg woah [18:15]
rg you're a millionare [18:15]
Bugpowder not in coins [18:16]
rg if you give me 300 BTC [18:16]
rg i will give you 250 BTC back [18:16]
rg in 1 year [18:16]
smickles kilothousandair sounds better to me [18:16]
teek update our users on saturday [18:16]
teek wtf [18:16]
rg it was up earlier.. [18:16]
rg i used it less than 5 hrs ago [18:16]
smickles yeah like 5 min ago [18:16]
asa1024 okay - where do we riot about this? [18:16]
jcpham if it wasn't a bank run it's about to be [18:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00035853 = 8.7123 BTC [+] [18:17]
jcpham because i'm going to sell everything into the ground [18:17]
jcpham if it comes back [18:17]
gigavps i sent coins to glbse this morning :-/ [18:17]
smickles ouch [18:17]
jcpham sorry to hear it [18:17]
gigavps for monday's coupon payment [18:17]
rg something must be up [18:17]
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mircea_popescu safe harbor in securities exchange? <<< lol [18:17]
Bugpowder motherfucker [18:17]
smickles it can't be good ne3ws [18:17]
jcpham i've tried to refrain from dumping my assets [18:17]
jcpham mainly because of you guys and not wating to affect you [18:18]
asa1024 same here [18:18]
jcpham now i don't care [18:18]
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rg arf that means BIB.BVPS wont be able to pay out divs [18:18]
rg that's wack [18:18]
rg dont copy that floppy [18:18]
smickles jcpham: it's business, i respect you for careing, and i'd respect you for 'looking out for no. 1' too [18:18]
mircea_popescu o wait, glbse died a pirate death ? [18:18]
smickles mircea_popescu: late to the party? [18:19]
rg no mircea [18:19]
mircea_popescu smickles i was having buttsex [18:19]
drekk this is so popcorn [18:19]
smickles go to glbse.com already [18:19]
rg mircea is already writing a forum post talking shit about glbse [18:19]
smickles see for yourself [18:19]
asa1024 the soap operas my wife watches has NOTHING on this sort of drama [18:20]
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asa1024 other than the sex and adultery part [18:20]
mircea_popescu if it comes back <<< yeah. if [18:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48829 @ 0.00036007 = 17.5819 BTC [+] [18:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00036016 = 13.1819 BTC [+] [18:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22636 @ 0.00036119 = 8.1759 BTC [+] [18:20]
asa1024 oh and the murder [18:20]
rg lol [18:20]
rg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94900.0 [18:20]
rg imsaguy is listed as a ponzi scheme [18:20]
jcpham i'm just saying i have actively refrained from dumping my assets over the past 60 days or so since pirate defaulted [18:21]
jcpham if it comes back i'll take whatever i can and leave [18:21]
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mircea_popescu rg old news [18:21]
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smickles imsaguy2: you're only ranked #11 on that list [18:22]
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DeaDTerra what the hell is going on with GLBSE? [18:23]
asa1024 turn that stock exchange back on!!! [18:23]
smickles Bugpowder: lol "I should have finished pulling out", now you have a daughter [18:24]
asa1024 my life savings was jn cpa!! [18:24]
mircea_popescu smickles lmao [18:24]
asa1024 jk [18:24]
asa1024 so I guess we have been owned? [18:24]
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teek this shit is unreal [18:25]
smickles if Bugpowder's face is on the internet, someone should morph his face with nefario's [18:25]
teek as if things havent been bad enough lately [18:25]
Bugpowder I thought you were a woman usagi [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2800 @ 0.00045475 = 1.2733 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1953 @ 0.00045475 = 0.8881 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4500 @ 0.00045475 = 2.0464 BTC [-] [18:25]
mircea_popescu teek shoulda pulled out [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10 @ 0.00045475 = 0.0045 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2153 @ 0.00045474 = 0.9791 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2571 @ 0.00045473 = 1.1691 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5100 @ 0.00045472 = 2.3191 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5800 @ 0.00045471 = 2.6373 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9810 @ 0.00045469 = 4.4605 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1900 @ 0.00045463 = 0.8638 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8700 @ 0.00045455 = 3.9546 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3245 @ 0.00045337 = 1.4712 BTC [-] [18:25]
Bugpowder oh dear [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8200 @ 0.00045032 = 3.6926 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9500 @ 0.0004472 = 4.2484 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2146 @ 0.00044174 = 0.948 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8785 @ 0.00044165 = 3.8799 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9849 @ 0.00044119 = 4.3453 BTC [-] [18:25]
mircea_popescu hm [18:25]
smickles bound to happen [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1000 @ 0.00044032 = 0.4403 BTC [-] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7417 @ 0.0004402 = 3.265 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 94978 @ 0.00044 = 41.7903 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11400 @ 0.00027879 = 3.1782 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4900 @ 0.00026701 = 1.3083 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 100000 @ 0.00023 = 23 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 98613 @ 0.00018 = 17.7503 BTC [-] [18:26]
Bugpowder bye bye [18:26]
mircea_popescu whoa shit [18:26]
smickles all the way down? [18:26]
Bugpowder oooooooh fuck [18:26]
smickles not yet i see [18:26]
FledNanders wow [18:26]
Bugpowder NOW WHOS THE IDIOT [18:26]
Bugpowder hehehe [18:26]
FledNanders Someone decided to pull out [18:26]
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mircea_popescu i guess that may all be worthless paper now [18:26]
FledNanders Probably... [18:26]
asa1024 so this is what being owned feels like [18:27]
FledNanders Sucks to whoever just bought all those shares. [18:27]
asa1024 awesome [18:27]
Bugpowder they were stupid to buy them anyway [18:27]
mircea_popescu asa1024 you must have missed the many "glbse is a scam" posts [18:27]
Bugpowder no paid upgrade path [18:27]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder if asics ever happen. [18:27]
Bugpowder usagi, my wife expects me to lose all the bitcoin money [18:28]
Bugpowder just a matter of time [18:28]
asa1024 mircea - yeah I've read them but I thought you guys were just slinging mud around everywhere [18:28]
asa1024 I [18:28]
asa1024 gues [18:28]
asa1024 s [18:28]
asa1024 [18:28]
asa1024 I [18:28]
asa1024 gue [18:28]
asa1024 ss [18:28]
Bugpowder yes [18:28]
asa1024 I guess I learned something [18:28]
Bugpowder slinging mud [18:28]
mircea_popescu mk. live and learn as it is. [18:28]
mircea_popescu my girl never slung shit. [18:28]
area So, do we think we'll actually hear something on Saturday? [18:28]
Bugpowder but if you ahve half a brain [18:28]
mircea_popescu area possibly. [18:28]
Bugpowder you realize the mud is troth [18:28]
Bugpowder truth [18:28]
asa1024 well yeah now [18:28]
rg [11:28] Nefario spoke at bitcoin 2012 -- no one saw this coming [18:28]
rg saw what.. [18:28]
rg no one even knows what happened [18:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8264 @ 0.00036119 = 2.9849 BTC [+] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17749 @ 0.00036119 = 6.4108 BTC [+] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00036124 = 13.2214 BTC [+] [18:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17239 @ 0.00036238 = 6.2471 BTC [+] [18:29]
rg im aware [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.00036305 = 11.7991 BTC [+] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58700 @ 0.00036411 = 21.3733 BTC [+] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00036415 = 13.9469 BTC [+] [18:29]
rg but its not the end of the world [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00036423 = 13.7679 BTC [+] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27848 @ 0.00036488 = 10.1612 BTC [+] [18:29]
gribble nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [18:29]
Bugpowder YESSSS [18:29]
smickles area: well, if we hear something on sat, how could it be good news [18:29]
rg for all we know nefario found a huge bug and had to suspend trading ASAP [18:29]
Bugpowder S.MPOE [18:29]
Bugpowder up up up [18:29]
mircea_popescu lol Bugpowder [18:29]
mircea_popescu you in ? [18:29]
asa1024 I'm so owned but oh well shit happens I didn't lose much [18:29]
Bugpowder of course [18:29]
mircea_popescu rg there's no way he can get btc to cover for all the withdrawals [18:29]
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Bugpowder I am diversified across all the non shit MPEX assets [18:29]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder so excluding what, rg ? :D [18:30]
kakobrekla dafuq [18:30]
kakobrekla drama. [18:30]
Bugpowder C tranche [18:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34388 @ 0.00036488 = 12.5475 BTC [+] [18:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45612 @ 0.00036542 = 16.6675 BTC [+] [18:30]
rg maybe bugpowder is the guy buying up all the s.bvps lately [18:30]
smickles jurov|away: so how's that mpex brokerage coming alon? [18:30]
* FledNanders got taken for about 100 BTC on GLBSE. :( [18:30]
Bugpowder THIS IS SPARTA [18:30]
DeaDTerra Nefario claims to hold all the BTC deposited into GLBSE in a offline wallet, so he should be able to pay all the withdraws. [18:30]
Bugpowder yes thats me [18:30]
rg dude [18:30]
rg no one lost anything [18:30]
rg relax you fuckers [18:30]
DeaDTerra Anyone has his phone number,I want to give him a call. [18:30]
mircea_popescu DeaDTerra on the other hand christians claim jesus' mom was a virgin at the time [18:30]
rg he'll obviously be on IRC soon [18:30]
DeaDTerra (not in the threatening way, but in the hey m8 what's going on way) [18:31]
Bugpowder riiight [18:31]
Bugpowder ;;seen Nefario [18:31]
gribble Nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 19 hours, 31 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [18:31]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder he did pop in a few days ago [18:31]
smickles DeaDTerra: i'll check my phone log from back in march [18:31]
mircea_popescu to reset the counter [18:31]
rg ;;seen nefario_ [18:31]
gribble nefario_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 55 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: I've not got all the commands down [18:31]
teek usagi: what are you talking about? [18:31]
mircea_popescu noob didn't know he has to say something [18:31]
rg wtf [18:31]
rg he's been here [18:31]
rg it hasnt been a week since he was here [18:31]
mircea_popescu rg ^^ [18:31]
rg ;;seen nefario__ [18:31]
gribble I have not seen nefario__. [18:31]
rg ;;seen nefario- [18:31]
gribble I have not seen nefario-. [18:31]
teek usagi: i am talking about the great organic coke [18:32]
teek i know glbse is down [18:32]
teek :P [18:32]
Bugpowder usagi, you already lost most of it :) [18:32]
rg theres nothing wrong with doing coke [18:32]
rg hes english [18:32]
FledNanders I did not see this GLBSE closure coming. :( I just had a friend invest 20 BTC yesterday. [18:32]
FledNanders He is going to be mad at me. [18:32]
rg english people love coke [18:32]
rg erm [18:32]
rg its not a glbse closure! [18:32]
rg wtf! [18:32]
rg you guys need to fucking relax [18:32]
Bugpowder Did I not said GLBSE was going to die by Nov1 [18:32]
rg and stop jumping to conclusions [18:32]
FledNanders rg: Do you know something we don't? [18:32]
rg 'i lost xxxx' [18:32]
rg you didn't lose anything [18:33]
rg you dont even know what's going on [18:33]
FledNanders rg: I can't get my funds... I consider that lost. [18:33]
teek rg: with the further downward spiral this will cause [18:33]
Bugpowder the bid value of any security held is going to be cut in half [18:33]
rg temporarily unavailable! [18:33]
teek ya we did lose something [18:33]
rg besides [18:33]
DeaDTerra Last time I talked to Nefario, he was looking for somewhere to live, I am sure he just has a limited amount of internet access and a bug came up and he had to shutdown the servers to deal with it. [18:33]
rg nefario has a fuckload of btc [18:33]
rg like [18:33]
rg a fuck lot [18:33]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder half is a best case scenario i guess [18:33]
rg i think he probably found a catastrophic bug [18:33]
mircea_popescu rg nefario is broke [18:33]
rg mircea_popescu: so am i but i still have like 300 btc [18:34]
mircea_popescu wasn't he borrowing off people at his conference ? [18:34]
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smickles ok, DeaDTerra i have a number [18:34]
mircea_popescu i guess them folks ain't seeing it back. [18:34]
Bugpowder IT is fucking gone [18:34]
mircea_popescu rg 300 is a fucklot ?! [18:34]
smickles I'm not positive it's his, but it's a +44 code [18:34]
smickles what country is +44? [18:34]
mircea_popescu soooo... all of you people who gave your id details to nefario [18:34]
Bugpowder time to update my spreadsheet of bitcoin investment losses [18:34]
mircea_popescu did you get HIS ? [18:34]
rg mircea_popescu: for me it is [18:34]
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area smickles: UK [18:34]
rg fuck you [18:34]
rg im not a high roller like all of you [18:34]
Bugpowder !ticker [18:35]
assbot Provide ticker. [18:35]
FledNanders rg: None of us are high rollers anymore. :( [18:35]
Bugpowder ;ticker [18:35]
mircea_popescu !ticker tits&assbot [18:35]
assbot Invalid ticker. [18:35]
mod6 hah [18:35]
Bugpowder just post the bitcoin price please [18:35]
Bugpowder $13.06 [18:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 988 @ 0.00036542 = 0.361 BTC [+] [18:35]
Bugpowder YES [18:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00036547 = 3.0699 BTC [+] [18:35]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:35]
gribble Best bid: 13.02, Best ask: 13.0684, Bid-ask spread: 0.04840, Last trade: 13.02, 24 hour volume: 31652, 24 hour low: 12.703, 24 hour high: 13.0685 [18:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00036661 = 2.7129 BTC [+] [18:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7212 @ 0.00036748 = 2.6503 BTC [+] [18:35]
copumpkin why wait until saturday to make an announcement? [18:35]
copumpkin seems kinda shady [18:35]
Bugpowder s.MPOE [18:35]
Bugpowder up up up up up [18:35]
copumpkin to keep it offline for three days [18:35]
smickles we recently broke 13 too? [18:36]
copumpkin without telling anyone [18:36]
smickles waht a morning [18:36]
mircea_popescu copumpkin that's how the interscamgro crew does [18:36]
copumpkin usagi: sure [18:36]
mircea_popescu bitcoininca redux. [18:36]
Bugpowder 13 broke 5 minutes ago [18:36]
drekk relevant: http://imgur.com/fhuyo [18:36]
FledNanders usagi: When did you talk to Nefario? [18:36]
kakobrekla i want my cupon codes lol [18:36]
mircea_popescu lol drekk [18:36]
mircea_popescu ahahaha kakobrekla [18:37]
Bugpowder UPDATE [18:37]
Bugpowder GLBSE is offline For those worried about their bitcoin, please calm yourselves there has been no hack and your coins are safe and all accounted for. I apologize for the lack of notice and the downtime, but there isn't much choice. We will update our users on Saturday. [18:37]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [18:37]
mircea_popescu is there porn of it ? [18:38]
FledNanders usagi: Post actual quotes. [18:38]
copumpkin Vescudero? [18:38]
DeaDTerra I got a answer from Nefario. He can't comment on the downtime until Sunday. [18:38]
mircea_popescu helpful. [18:38]
smickles how about that [18:38]
DeaDTerra Please post proof :) [18:39]
smickles oh, usagi samthan was asking for you [18:39]
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smickles said you owed him 1200 btc or somehting [18:39]
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mircea_popescu who's samthan [18:39]
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Luceo Fuck GLBSE [18:40]
Luceo I'm done with GLBSE [18:40]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:40]
Luceo Glad I pulled my BTC [18:40]
drekk Meanwhile... 13.07597 [18:41]
mircea_popescu apparently just in time [18:41]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:41]
gribble Best bid: 13.07598, Best ask: 13.08, Bid-ask spread: 0.00402, Last trade: 13.06586, 24 hour volume: 31452, 24 hour low: 12.703, 24 hour high: 13.08 [18:41]
Luceo Why is it so hard for Bitcoiners to just run legitimate fucking businesses? :S [18:41]
mircea_popescu lol, glbse closing is good for btc [18:41]
smickles Luceo: laws, apparently [18:41]
BurtW Summary of GLBSE fiasco please. [18:41]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: long-term maybe :) short-term, I feel bad for a lot of people getting fucked :( [18:41]
DeaDTerra Got a hold of Nefario [18:41]
copumpkin but I'm a huge pussy [18:41]
copumpkin mircea_popescu is sipping his cognac [18:41]
mircea_popescu copumpkin mee too. especially for the uppity ones who managed to completely fuck themselves over by getting on my ignore list. [18:42]
DeaDTerra He doesn't seem to be going anywhere, though he can't comment on anything until Sunday (probably legal reasons). [18:42]
smickles BurtW: it wen't offline, says it'll have info on saturday [18:42]
copumpkin hey guys, technically your ownership of everything is your own [18:42]
mircea_popescu o look, it's a banker. [18:42]
copumpkin as long as he keeps records [18:42]
copumpkin of how much everyone owns of everything [18:42]
copumpkin that shit should be published and signed though [18:42]
copumpkin asap [18:42]
jcpham let's blame BurtW and see if it helps [18:43]
* copumpkin blames BurtW [18:43]
copumpkin any better? [18:43]
mircea_popescu BurtW this is all your fault. [18:43]
jcpham i feel better [18:43]
BurtW Got a hold of Nefario << only good news so far [18:43]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:43]
gribble Best bid: 13.056, Best ask: 13.08, Bid-ask spread: 0.02400, Last trade: 13.08408, 24 hour volume: 31471, 24 hour low: 12.703, 24 hour high: 13.0841 [18:43]
mircea_popescu nope apparently doesn't work. [18:43]
asa1024 oct 4th 2012 the Day the music died. [18:44]
Doffx No more Glbse? [18:44]
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copumpkin asa1024: have you seen margin call? [18:44]
Luceo Fuck paypal [18:44]
Luceo They froze my account for 6 months [18:44]
asa1024 no not yet - is it any good? [18:44]
copumpkin yeah, I liked it [18:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00036748 = 5.5122 BTC [+] [18:44]
copumpkin jeremy irons hears the music stop, in that movie [18:44]
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copumpkin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DqFRsPrns [18:45]
mircea_popescu well if that helps anything, strateman, taaki & co haven't "gone anywhere" either. they're still around [18:45]
asa1024 thanks! i'll check it out! [18:45]
mircea_popescu heck, even pirate trolls irc ocasionally. [18:45]
mircea_popescu so maybe it will all work out in the end. [18:45]
copumpkin it's fictional, but designed to mirror more or less what happened during the shitshow [18:45]
Doffx Wow no update until Sat, wtf [18:45]
Luceo usagi: Hope you get your shit back :x [18:46]
jcpham seems legit [18:46]
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rg someone musta called in the federalies [18:46]
jcpham hi! we have all your monies. the site is down. sucks to be you. we'll talk about it in a few days. [18:46]
mircea_popescu maybe he issues btc coupons [18:46]
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defactomacro it seems nothing is safe anymore [18:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00036748 = 0.3675 BTC [+] [18:46]
mircea_popescu and tells everyone to take it up with the blockchain [18:46]
defactomacro except gox....for now [18:47]
mircea_popescu gavin has to now code something to accept the coupons into the blocks [18:47]
mircea_popescu or else you can sue him [18:47]
rg mtgox has enough money to grease the wheels [18:47]
Luceo All the feds are accomplishing is driving legitimate businesses underground, into tor, into darknet, onto IRC [18:47]
* ErebusBat is late to the game. GLBSE is shutdown? SEC? [18:47]
jcpham who knows [18:47]
copumpkin asa1024: if you like financial fuckup movies based on true stories, you should also watch rogue trader. That's an even more ridiculous story [18:47]
mircea_popescu ErebusBat no sec, just idiocy [18:47]
ErebusBat mircea_popescu: any thread or pastebin I can read to catch up? Other than (CLOSED WILL UPDATE IN A FEW DAYS?) [18:48]
DeaDTerra I am talking to James at the moment [18:48]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114442.msg1244763#msg1244763 that maybe. [18:48]
BurtW ErebusBat no sec, just idiocy << can you expound on this [18:48]
DeaDTerra All the coins are safe, it's not a bug nor a hack. More info will come on Sunday. Try to stay cool kids [18:48]
copumpkin asa1024: basically a single guy managed to destroy a major bank that had existed for a couple hundred years by lying about how much he was making them [18:48]
mircea_popescu BurtW not past what the pr girl has been saying on the forum, and i'm sure you've read and ignored. [18:48]
rg mircea [18:49]
rg so are you admitting that you called the cops [18:49]
rg on nefario? [18:49]
copumpkin usagi: don't panic, the records of what you own are still intact, I'm sure, and you can settle your ownership with the asset issuers [18:49]
ErebusBat mircea_popescu: I don't get the point of that thread. GLBSE closed down because of pressure from goat? [18:49]
mircea_popescu rg me ?! [18:49]
JWU_42 usagi: let's wait and see what happens here... [18:49]
Doffx What coins, if you have a bond and not btc your fucked when this is over [18:49]
mircea_popescu ErebusBat glbse was a scam platform. it closed down once it became unsustainable. [18:50]
copumpkin it'll be a pain in the ass, but many of the issuers will be able to move over to mpex, and issue you shares based on what nefario claims you own [18:50]
JWU_42 we get it [18:50]
Doffx Massive sell off ck up coming if its back up Sat [18:50]
ErebusBat mircea_popescu: source? other than your opinion? [18:50]
mircea_popescu copumpkin you think ? [18:50]
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ErebusBat usagi: did you already send your deposit? [18:50]
JWU_42 I already got the Pirate reaming [18:50]
mircea_popescu JWU_42 you had an asset did you ? [18:51]
JWU_42 yes - I do [18:51]
mircea_popescu o well. prepare for the fun of handling privately your investors. [18:51]
JWU_42 YABMC - a mining bond [18:51]
mircea_popescu hopefully < 100 of them [18:51]
JWU_42 yes - think so - but not 100% sure [18:51]
ErebusBat Did asset holders get any advance notice? [18:51]
mircea_popescu the ideea is you prepare for contingencies so you don't have to cuff it. [18:51]
Luceo usagi: Whats your plan if glbse comes back? [18:51]
Luceo usagi: Get everything off there onto something safe? [18:52]
JWU_42 ErebusBat: I received no advance notice (no notice at all) [18:52]
Bugpowder copumpkin why would MPEX take GLBSE trash? makes no sense... cryptostocks maybe [18:52]
smickles lol, theymos knew nothing of this [18:52]
smickles found out on his forum [18:52]
mircea_popescu smickles lmao this is great [18:52]
mircea_popescu he sold his shares already i take it. [18:53]
Bugpowder smickles bullshit [18:53]
smickles i dunno [18:53]
jcpham if no one was given any notice, it isn't good [18:53]
jcpham let's not be naive [18:53]
smickles mircea_popescu: i hadn't heard that they sold yet [18:53]
ErebusBat smickles: is there a thread yet? [18:53]
mircea_popescu jcpham why not ? after such a long run of being naive, why break it. [18:53]
Bugpowder herp derp I accidently tried to sell my shares at the worst possible time [18:53]
smickles ErebusBat: sort'of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115430.20 [18:53]
ErebusBat smickles: ty [18:54]
imsaguy2 that's old news rg [18:54]
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mircea_popescu taking a positive look on things, this chan passed 100 users now, so can't be all bad. [18:56]
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Doffx Time to open free accounts for Mpex [18:57]
mircea_popescu not happening. [18:57]
mircea_popescu actually [18:57]
smickles Doffx: no, time for jurov|away's brokerage site to open up public [18:57]
mircea_popescu effective immediately, the fee is 30 btc. [18:57]
mircea_popescu enjoy. [18:57]
Doffx Lol. [18:58]
smickles coinbr.com, iirc [18:58]
ErebusBat AND your eyes can bleed while you use it [18:58]
ErebusBat it is a two-fer [18:58]
Doffx Either way I will no longer participate in any exchange. [18:58]
Doffx I'm glad I removed all my BTC from Glbse [18:59]
defactomacro what is left to participate in? [18:59]
Doffx Just wish I had time to dump all my shares [18:59]
genjix nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy. [19:00]
smickles defactomacro: any other bitcoin related securites exchange? [19:00]
smickles there's a whole list in /topic [19:00]
Doffx The btc is only one part of the problem, the bigger problem is everyone is going to want out. [19:01]
mircea_popescu ;;ident genjix [19:01]
gribble Nick 'genjix', with hostmask 'genjix!~genjix@188.165.73.224', is not identified. [19:01]
mircea_popescu you have got to be kidding. [19:01]
Doffx So if you own shares what happens. [19:01]
ErebusBat genjix: If ther eis govt intervention it doesn't matter one lick if nefario was legit or not [19:01]
mircea_popescu genjix aren't there some coins you folks stole with bitcoinica taht need to be dispensed ? [19:01]
smickles ;;gpg info genjix [19:01]
ErebusBat Doffx: *if* it comes back online then it could be a massive opportunity [19:01]
gribble User 'genjix', with keyid 7F27BD9C634FEC67, fingerprint AC51D09F17398C5F74E8512B7F27BD9C634FEC67, and bitcoin address None, registered on Thu Mar 17 18:28:42 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=genjix . Currently not authenticated. [19:01]
DeaDTerra nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy. Seconed by me [19:02]
mircea_popescu DeaDTerra why do you insist in associating with well known scammers ? [19:02]
smickles mircea_popescu: guruvan "part of the bitcoinica, bitcoin consultancy, bitcoinica consultancy crew that has stolen a large amount of customer funds. Do not trust these guys - bitcoinica, intersango, consultancy, or any new project" [19:02]
mircea_popescu it's not a good business plan. [19:02]
DeaDTerra I just talked to James, the situation is critical but stable for now. All the coins are safe in the offline wallet. It was not a hack. [19:02]
smickles that, in re to genjix [19:02]
DeaDTerra I am losing more respect for you each minute, so please shut up Mircea :) [19:02]
mircea_popescu im surprised that he has the gall to even show up [19:03]
mircea_popescu much less "vouch" for his scammer friends. [19:03]
mircea_popescu DeaDTerra welcome to my ignore. [19:03]
DeaDTerra!*@* added to ignore list. [19:03]
PsychoticBoy dont care about his wallet, most of my btc are stuck in assets, I want my asset money back if GLBSE does not come back [19:03]
PsychoticBoy about 1.5K [19:04]
mircea_popescu PsychoticBoy that sucks. [19:04]
Doffx I agree with PsychoticBoy, I dont have any BTC in there its the assets I'm more concerned with. [19:04]
Uglux DeaDTerra, and what is the situation? oO [19:04]
PsychoticBoy respect, first explain [19:05]
PsychoticBoy critical, stable. does not say anything [19:06]
teek DeaDTerra: do you actually know the situation [19:06]
teek or were you just told "its critical but stable" [19:06]
Luceo Sunday? Not Saturday? [19:06]
PsychoticBoy so tell us, or quit protecting nef [19:06]
Luceo Why is it taking so long? [19:06]
Luceo Is it legal? [19:06]
PsychoticBoy WHAT IS THE SITUATION???? [19:06]
teek DeaDTerra: so then you don't know the situation [19:06]
PsychoticBoy stable, critical doesnt mean shit [19:07]
defactomacro hey, all we need now is for BFL to up and run [19:07]
PsychoticBoy what is stable? [19:07]
PsychoticBoy at this rate, bitcoin is getting very crappy [19:07]
OneEyed Hi [19:07]
OneEyed That's what is written on the site itself [19:08]
mircea_popescu heya [19:08]
jcpham it's the people PsychoticBoy [19:08]
jcpham not nthe bitcoin [19:08]
PsychoticBoy i know :( [19:08]
jcpham or the ideas produced by the people [19:08]
Luceo mircea_popescu: Could this shit happen to mpex? [19:08]
jcpham of course not Luceo [19:08]
mircea_popescu Luceo not as far as i can see [19:08]
mircea_popescu propose a scenario ? [19:08]
jcpham and even if it could why would he say yes [19:08]
mircea_popescu jcpham ^^ eh [19:08]
Luceo As far as I know mpex is still centralized [19:08]
mircea_popescu it is. [19:09]
Luceo What happens to mpex if you disappear? No one can continue their assets? [19:09]
mircea_popescu ok lemme pull the faq up [19:09]
mircea_popescu 21. What happens if your domain(s) or server(s) are confiscated ? [19:09]
mircea_popescu In case the domain is confiscated or otherwise lost MPEx will move to a different domain, in a different jurisdiction. Should the same happen again, MPEx would move to what will at the time be a solid alternative for a free Internet, be it the TOR network, namecoin or some equivalent DNS or any comparable solution. No government will ever be able to stop the Internet, in general. We're prepared to show this in the particular. [19:09]
mircea_popescu Should the systems be confiscated or otherwise lost the service will failover to different systems, possibly on bulletproof hosting if need be. If sufficient pressure is put on this side MPEx will be recoded as a p2p system. [19:09]
mircea_popescu 22. Even so, how would the investors be affected in the event MPEx can no longer be continued ? [19:09]
mircea_popescu In the unlikely case that the continuation of MPEx becomes impossible, all issuers will be provided with lists of their shareholders. A successor system would have to be constructed (either centralized or maintained independently by the respective issuers), but no information is lost : since people can still sign with their keys, it is trivial for anyone who is in fact a shareholder to identify himself as shareholder. Just to be on [19:09]
mircea_popescu the safe side, a dump of all users' final STATs, encrypted with their keys and clearsigned by the exchange will be released before closing, in whatever manner will be deemed at that time efficient, as for instance on a p2p file sharing system. [19:09]
mircea_popescu that';d be it. [19:09]
Luceo I'm starting to think the main 'safe' thing about mpex is that you're in Romania :P [19:10]
mircea_popescu no, the main safe thing about mpex is that i'm a hardass. [19:10]
Luceo And the big governments don't tend to get that far [19:10]
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mircea_popescu anyway, in case anyone missed it earlier : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115441.0 [19:11]
mircea_popescu mpex new acct fee is 30 btc now. [19:11]
PsychoticBoy maybe Ill create my own stock exchange site, :D [19:12]
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mircea_popescu PsychoticBoy just don't run it like glbse. [19:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 676 @ 0.00036748 = 0.2484 BTC [+] [19:12]
Luceo Maybe what we need is a decentralized exchange? [19:12]
Luceo So that if one important person or server gets v&, the exchange goes on [19:12]
mircea_popescu maybe so. [19:13]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 and others were working on one Luceo [19:13]
Luceo I'm glad I pulled out of GLBSE when they started trying to go legal [19:14]
* OneEyed too [19:14]
smickles Luceo: congratz on being the umteenth person to suggest and not yet impliment a decentralized bitcoin securities exchanges. next action, find Open Transactions [19:14]
OneEyed I pulled the last 100 BTC I had there during the last week [19:14]
mircea_popescu OneEyed smart. [19:14]
mircea_popescu from the forums : "GLBSE has better assets and is free. I am now even less likely to sign up to you." [19:14]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun. [19:14]
OneEyed mircea_popescu: it started to smell very bad [19:14]
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Luceo smickles: Looking for it [19:14]
asa1024 #opentransactions [19:15]
smickles Luceo: OT seems like it could work, it just needs a bit more dev [19:15]
Luceo mircea_popescu: Konichua is very young, go easy on him :P [19:15]
ErebusBat I'm glad I pulled out of GLBSE when they started trying to go legal <--- that statement looks bad [19:15]
mircea_popescu Luceo i ain't sayin anything :p [19:15]
mircea_popescu ErebusBat emphasis was on "trying". [19:15]
Luceo ErebusBat: Every Bitcoin business which has tried to go 'legit' has become worse [19:15]
ErebusBat ^^^ I don't nessecarily disagree, but taken out of context that is a very bad thing to have in a news clipping (or courtroom) [19:16]
Luceo Until the system recognizes and legislates around Bitcoin, any attempt to take Bitcoin businesses through regulation & registration is futile [19:16]
mircea_popescu moreover, the system will have to recode itself to fit with bitcoin [19:16]
knotwork Open Transactions does work, I have never used any financial system that was as good at actually keeping balances correct before [19:16]
mircea_popescu not the other way around [19:16]
Luceo Well sure, taken out of context it is [19:16]
ErebusBat "bitcoins are just for criminals… as soon as GLBSE tried to become legal alot of users jumped ship and here are some quotes….." [19:16]
knotwork having all balances have to be signed for seems to make it extremely robuts [19:16]
mircea_popescu ErebusBat you have a point there. [19:17]
knotwork robust [19:17]
ErebusBat knotwork: what is OT actulally good for *today*? [19:17]
pigeons use knotwork's server and find out [19:17]
mircea_popescu ErebusBat i think there's some game servers using it already [19:17]
Luceo ErebusBat: I understand but let's just put that into context [19:17]
Luceo It's the legal system which makes it that way [19:17]
knotwork It works, you can transfer assets from user to user, you can put them on markets, you can withdraw blinded cash tokens [19:17]
knotwork you can do cheques and "cashiers cheques" [19:17]
Luceo If the legal system wasn't in the 1900s, and unable to work with Bitcoin, and with small financial services providers, then we wouldn't have these issues [19:18]
knotwork It could do with easier way to use Tor though, like actual proxy-port support [19:18]
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smickles knotwork: so you're saying just the ui and tor interface need work? [19:18]
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knotwork and of course it could do with prettier clients if it actually makes any sense to let grandma have a seat on a stock exchange [19:18]
pigeons smickles: yeah, ther eare some recent videos demonstarating [19:19]
knotwork grandma probably ought to just use videochat with her nice friendly broker though at $75/hour or whatever and let him/her deal with all the complicated stuff [19:19]
jcpham the term "going legal" implies complying with regulations [19:19]
jcpham based on the nature of bitcoin, regulations will make people jump ship [19:20]
knotwork smickles well it needs scaling up too [19:20]
smickles glbse would have to get a lot of info from its users to comply with us regs, and serve us users [19:20]
pigeons well to be fair, it wasn't the act of intending to comply with regulations that brought the regulators down on them [19:20]
knotwork right now we had to put a limit to the number of offers a nym can have open because nyms issuing 72 offers 3 times a day without clearing their inboxes were blowing out the inbox download timeouts [19:20]
smickles knotwork: oh wow [19:21]
knotwork so we put a limit of only 36 open offers per nym for now [19:21]
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smickles knotwork: open offers, so that's like buy/sells? [19:21]
knotwork thing is there are so damn many markets the market-making scripts wanted to post shitloads of offers [19:21]
knotwork yes, buy/sells [19:21]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115441.0 [19:22]
kakobrekla lol [19:22]
smickles kakobrekla: the first reply is golden [19:22]
knotwork I have scripts that take the computed value for an asset in terms of another and place offers to buy by the one at a time at 97% or by the ten at a time at 98% or by the 100-lot at 99% and to similarly sell at 103%, 102%, 101% stuff like that [19:22]
kakobrekla :D [19:22]
knotwork so thats six offers right there just to do one way round of one pair [19:22]
knotwork because of those scale factors it treats both ways round of a pair as distinct markets [19:23]
smickles interesting, i need to settle into my new place first tho :| [19:24]
knotwork so like at 100 scale, offering to sell 100 of A for x many B per 100 is separate market from offering to sell 100-lots of B for y many A per 100 [19:24]
knotwork so tons of need for arbitrageurs [19:24]
knotwork even if they just buy 100-lots and sell in smaller lots or whatever [19:25]
knotwork or match up folk selling A for price in B with people selling B for price measured in A [19:25]
smickles knotwork: well, today may be a good day to attract more players [19:25]
mircea_popescu see Luceo ? you ask me to go easy on them cause they're young, they sprout dumbass shit cause... heck, why not. they;re young and everyone should go easy on them [19:25]
mircea_popescu this is broken. [19:25]
Luceo mircea_popescu: Hmm, you make a fair point [19:26]
mircea_popescu im not gonna be the first taking 15yo's to be thrown off rocks, but i can't deny sparta had a point somewhere in there. [19:26]
knotwork I am hoping OT will appeal to large players due to its lack of percentage-based trading fees [19:28]
midnightmagic ;;seen nefario [19:28]
gribble nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 20 hours, 28 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: Those assets are not listed or traded anymore [19:28]
knotwork doing everything in integers should also hopefully help encourage larger size trades [19:28]
Bugpowder LOL mpex new acct fee is 30 btc now. [19:32]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder hey, seems only fair. [19:32]
mircea_popescu people that joined in time get an advantage over the ones that shittalked mpex back in the day cause "glbse is so much better" [19:32]
mircea_popescu it's how busienss works : back the wrong horse, bleed out of each limb. [19:33]
Luceo OpenTransactions says its centralized [19:33]
Luceo o.O [19:33]
smickles is this where I brag about paying less fees to mpex than glbse [19:33]
smickles Luceo: but federated [19:33]
knotwork Damn I didnt even turn on the usage tokens system yet in OT [19:34]
pigeons my mpex account was free, casue they used to be free [19:34]
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knotwork oh thats right piegons rub it in why dont you [19:34]
smickles pigeons: you fucking early adopter [19:34]
asa1024 damn and I was testing out coinbr.com [19:35]
pigeons knotwork: while it was free i tried to get you to join [19:35]
asa1024 30 btc* fee now? [19:35]
ErebusBat So I can't really use OT for anything today? [19:35]
pigeons ErebusBat: you can use OT for whatever you want today [19:35]
ErebusBat asa1024: dont forget that your eyes will bleed too… how can you put a price on that. [19:35]
knotwork ErebusBat sure you can, you just have to get it installed on your system [19:35]
smickles ErebusBat: you could setup proxy assets to glbse assets and make a killing [19:35]
smickles i bet [19:35]
asa1024 lol [19:35]
knotwork ErebusBat you can use the scripting language or the java GUI client both work [19:36]
pigeons and don't forget the mighty https://assets-otc.com/ [19:36]
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ErebusBat pigeons: rephrase: is anything else actually using OT today? Or is it still pretty much POC? [19:36]
mircea_popescu lol pigeons was mining back when cpu were the rage, too [19:36]
mircea_popescu BURN HIM [19:36]
pigeons ErebusBat: knotwork has a server with btc, i0c,ixc, ltc, CDN, etc, a handful of other servers, i'm not sure which of them want to be announced yet [19:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66100 @ 0.00036628 = 24.2111 BTC [-] [19:37]
ErebusBat any guides on OT? Last I looked there really were not [19:37]
pigeons there are videos now [19:37]
knotwork I have been making tables for my own curiosity at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html [19:37]
smickles that's you? [19:38]
pigeons http://open-transactions-tv.github.com/ [19:38]
mircea_popescu yea, that was him [19:38]
knotwork yeah Digitalis Data Services is my sole proprietorship, see WHOIS knotwork.com and WHOIS knotwork.net [19:38]
ErebusBat ty pigeons [19:38]
pigeons https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions/wiki [19:38]
knotwork once there is some easy way to use it through Tor there are a few groups who want to have OT servers as Tor hidden services [19:39]
smickles pay me back first, but srsly, don't [19:39]
knotwork currently they make do with Truledger for that I think [19:40]
pigeons a couple truledger servers on tor are getting popular [19:40]
smickles go read the myth of sysiphus by Camus, usagi [19:40]
pigeons well, compared to a few months ago [19:40]
knotwork Truledger doesnt have markets though nor even escrow-type smart contracts to force trades to actually happen both ways [19:40]
smickles that should change your mind [19:40]
smickles .wik "the myth of sysiphus" [19:41]
markac "The Myth of Sisyphus is a philosophical essay by Albert Camus." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus [19:41]
smickles of all things, when I learned that guy died in a train crash, i laughed [19:42]
ErebusBat So is Truledger like OT? [19:42]
knotwork Truledger only does accounts. it does similar type of accounting where everything is signed though [19:42]
knotwork but no markets, no way to make sure guy sends you in return what he promised when you send him something [19:43]
knotwork I think people have been using it mostly just for their local trust group for doing accounting around their in and out to fiat stuff among people they know [19:43]
pigeons mostly gold i've seen with truledger [19:44]
ErebusBat Watching the OT vids: makes me thiink of bitcoin test net… at first you are like I HAVE 10,000 BTC!!!! then realize you cant actully do anything with them :( [19:44]
knotwork I dont touch fiat at all with my server, I only deal with game money like bitcoins and litecoins and ixcoins and all that play money stuff [19:44]
knotwork smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102316.0 [19:47]
jcpham the myth of sisyphus is actually an old favorite [19:48]
jcpham there is much to learn there [19:48]
mircea_popescu jcpham it's so for all married men. [19:48]
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jcpham i was just saying how i wished reeses were here to troll this bitch up [19:48]
mircea_popescu lol [19:48]
jcpham and look what happened [19:48]
pigeons you can get knowtwork's OT contracts here http://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/ [19:49]
reeses jcpham rubs my bottle and I come out [19:49]
jcpham i rub it hard [19:49]
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smickles knotwork: well, i may not be too far off from helping out [19:50]
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asa1024 I wonder when the first murder over bit coin is gonna happen? [19:55]
asa1024 the media will love that one "FIRST MURDER OVER A VIRTUAL CURRENCY!!!" [19:56]
mircea_popescu asa1024 this happened already [19:56]
mircea_popescu was i think wow gold ? in korea [19:56]
mircea_popescu coupla years back [19:56]
asa1024 oh yeah? [19:56]
asa1024 lol [19:56]
smickles i don't think bitcoin is a virtual currency anyway [19:57]
mircea_popescu well, it's virtual alright. [19:57]
smickles digitally signed record of ownership of digital record [19:58]
smickles i don't see anything virtual about that [19:58]
mircea_popescu can i take a bite out of it ? [19:58]
mircea_popescu if you can't kill your girlfriend with it, it's virtual. also known as rule of thumb. [19:58]
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smickles data on harddrives has mass mircea_popescu [19:59]
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mircea_popescu yes but the relationship between real data and the virtual coins is... virtual. [19:59]
mircea_popescu whereas a duck which is real has weight, it's own. [19:59]
mircea_popescu not the weight of some picture of it. [19:59]
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mircea_popescu (the duck also weighs the same as a witch, which is virtual) [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 550 @ 0.00347504 = 1.9113 BTC [+] [20:01]
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Anduck sup [20:01]
smickles mircea_popescu: but it's the known claim to control of the virtual thing that has the value, so it's the data, not the thing itself [20:01]
pigeons less virtual than usd [20:01]
mircea_popescu if safekeys were the token claims that'd make the content of the safe no less virtual by this working. [20:02]
smickles like thos boulders on that island at that time [20:03]
FabianB .n [20:03]
Anduck news from nefario? [20:03]
mircea_popescu Anduck not so far. [20:04]
smickles "whith the thing in the place" [20:04]
mircea_popescu smickles easter island was it ? [20:04]
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smickles heh, not that I know of [20:05]
smickles DeaDTerra texted him [20:05]
smickles mircea_popescu: i don't think it was easter island [20:05]
mircea_popescu mmm, maybe irw [20:06]
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smickles mircea_popescu: i would look it up, but curiously, all my networking died with the exception of irc [20:07]
Doffx DeaDTerra, can you buy all my GSDPT back from me at what I bought it at? [20:07]
smickles ;;google boulders as money [20:07]
gribble Rai stones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Bolder Boulder - Boulder Daily Camera: ; Make Fake Artificial Landscape Rocks or Boulders - Save Money ...: [20:07]
smickles rai stones, i bet [20:07]
FledNanders What's this about GLBSE going down? What will happen to all my BTC and PPT shares? [20:07]
pigeons and its gone [20:07]
mircea_popescu all this malignity [20:08]
mircea_popescu towards a reputable hyip platform [20:08]
Doffx That would be fine with me. [20:09]
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Doffx I dont have an Mpex account however, mircea_popescu said I wasn’t worthy. [20:09]
mircea_popescu lol [20:10]
mircea_popescu Doffx so have an in-kind transfer to some broker or w/e [20:10]
Bugpowder Doffx I will sell the for you for 10% cut [20:10]
mircea_popescu once glbbq comes basck online, you get your coupons, you redeem them etc [20:10]
Doffx Well first I need to be able to access my Glbse account to give him the totals. [20:10]
FledNanders nobody is going to honor glbbq coupons. [20:11]
mircea_popescu FledNanders why do you demonize ? [20:11]
mircea_popescu are you going rto say next that milk is a scammer ? [20:11]
FledNanders The Goat precident. [20:11]
FledNanders milk isn't a scammer. milk does the body good. [20:12]
Doffx Well I guess its a good thing I mostly own that asset [20:12]
Doffx Ok cool, If Sat Glbse is back ill ping you. [20:12]
smickles Doffx: if you have shares of gsdpt (or whatev) you could give DeaDTerra a signed doc that says you'll give X shares to him as soon as is possible [20:13]
smickles that way, you could sell today [20:14]
smickles for that matter, you could probably do that with anyone, not just DT [20:14]
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Anduck btw [20:15]
Anduck glbse down got something to do with pirate? [20:15]
smickles noone really knows [20:15]
Doffx I dont know how many I have exactly is the problem haha [20:15]
mircea_popescu Anduck hardly [20:15]
smickles Doffx: you could just do it wiht an amount you are comfortable with [20:15]
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Doffx I want to sell them all, and move on. [20:16]
Anduck well [20:16]
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Anduck it was a major source of pirates bonds [20:16]
Anduck so ummmhh [20:16]
smickles if it ends up being more than you actually had, you just take responsibility for the difference [20:16]
Anduck if SEC is investigating, glbse might been shut down cuz of it [20:16]
asa1024 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA [20:16]
FledNanders GLBSE should be migrated to a .bit site. Should have been migrated a long time ago. [20:17]
mircea_popescu FledNanders .bit is accessible in vanilla browser ? [20:17]
Doffx I may do that tonight then smickles, my gpg keys are on another pc. [20:17]
Doffx I really need to export them to this pc. [20:17]
pigeons um pirate is one of the reasons there the legal folks are interested in glbse [20:18]
Diablo-D3 is the SEC investigating or not? [20:18]
pigeons yes [20:18]
FledNanders mircea_popescu: yes [20:18]
FledNanders unless you're an idiot [20:18]
Diablo-D3 meh [20:18]
pigeons mircea_popescu: one line in your resolv.conf [20:18]
Diablo-D3 I think Im just going to officially announce the end of DMC [20:18]
mircea_popescu FledNanders you seriously are making that distinction with glbbq "investors" ? [20:18]
pigeons DeaDTerra: how about the fucking SEC they said they are [20:18]
FledNanders DeaDTerra: Nefario confirmed it on the forum somewhere. [20:18]
pigeons i proved it to myself, why should i prove it to you [20:19]
FledNanders SEC contacted Nefario. I'm confident that is a fact. [20:19]
Diablo-D3 DeaDTerra: you know what I want to know? I got trolls, you didnt [20:19]
pigeons i don't want it to be true, but it is [20:19]
Diablo-D3 DeaDTerra: but we both got fucked the same way [20:19]
pigeons mircea_popescu: this in your resolve.conf and you're done: search namecoin-suffix.dot-bit.org [20:20]
Diablo-D3 didnt read the DMC thread? [20:20]
Diablo-D3 all the forum trolls jumped on the nefario train and trolled the fact DMC lost money because of nefario's bullshit [20:20]
mircea_popescu pigeons you realise most people on glbbq can't do gpg --clearsign, right ? the fuck they know how to find resolve.conf [20:21]
pigeons sorry *resolv.conf [20:21]
pigeons find / -name "resolv.conf" ;) [20:21]
mircea_popescu on windoze ? [20:21]
pigeons what's that? [20:21]
Diablo-D3 on windows its hosts.txt [20:21]
mircea_popescu right [20:22]
mircea_popescu except i dunno, does the syntax even work in hosts.txt ? [20:22]
mircea_popescu AND uit's a *hidden file* [20:22]
pigeons for windows: http://dot-bit.org/files/suffixes/namecoin.reg [20:22]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: if you're manually setting shit? yes [20:22]
Diablo-D3 its identical to hosts on unix [20:22]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 i had no ideea [20:22]
Diablo-D3 if you want to change DNS, you have to use the gui [20:22]
pigeons resolv.conf is not hosts [20:22]
mircea_popescu but on a serious note pigeons, this is very useful info. [20:22]
pigeons no you don't [20:22]
Diablo-D3 pigeons: you missed the point of my comment [20:22]
Diablo-D3 Im aware of what resolv.conf is [20:22]
Diablo-D3 Ive written enough of them manually [20:23]
mircea_popescu so far in spite of what the scammer group claims there's not been any actual pressure from the agencies on this, but should it come to it, making the site .bit is trivial. [20:23]
Diablo-D3 is the fucking forums down again [20:23]
Diablo-D3 oh wait, its just slow [20:23]
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FledNanders mircea_popescu - you plan to wait to be contacted to move to .bit? [20:23]
FledNanders proactive is better than reactive. [20:24]
mircea_popescu FledNanders why am i paying all these lawyers for then ? [20:24]
FledNanders You aren't smart? [20:24]
mircea_popescu riiight. [20:25]
mircea_popescu guerilla means you fight and fall back [20:25]
smickles mircea_popescu: is one of the best dressed men i know of [20:25]
mircea_popescu it doesn't mean you just keep running [20:25]
smickles ofc he's smart [20:25]
FledNanders make sure to tell dreadpirateroberts to just go ahead and put silk road on a .com and hire your legal team. [20:26]
FledNanders i'm sure that's the smart thing to do, right? [20:26]
rg mircea_popescu [20:26]
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rg when you get a chance, send me that div money [20:26]
rg im setting it aside [20:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00036412 = 7.6829 BTC [-] [20:26]
rg i did a withdrw, i tin i did t properly [20:26]
rg this FUCKKING KEYBOARD [20:26]
hctib does anyone have any word about GLBSE? [20:26]
rg makes me look like a retard always dropping keystrokes [20:26]
pigeons turd is the word [20:26]
mircea_popescu hctib yea, its back up. [20:26]
smickles no new news yet hctib [20:26]
* mircea_popescu wonders how many people checked. [20:27]
hctib really mircea_popescu , I just checked [20:27]
rg theres new info on it [20:27]
rg hehe [20:27]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [20:27]
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jcpham i want a few thousand mg's of caffeine for lunch [20:27]
vampireb so anyone knows what happened to glbse? [20:28]
Bugpowder lol [20:28]
Eisenhower34 something happend to glbse ?? [20:28]
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FledNanders vampireb - Nefario is updating to GLBSE 3.0 and adding a claim codes section to relclaim Goat assets. [20:29]
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hctib mircea_popescu: I see not much information on the site. [20:29]
hctib maybe he went over his bandwidth? [20:29]
FledNanders Call Nefario's phone. [20:29]
FledNanders He says it's GLBSE 3.0 [20:29]
Diablo-D3 what a scammer [20:29]
* jcpham votes Diablo-D3 for bitcoin presidente! [20:30]
FledNanders GLBSE 3.0 = Options trading, leverage trading, partial share trades, code claiming, new charts, new server, etc... [20:30]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: I wouldnt want the position anyhow [20:30]
jcpham that makes you the perfect candidate [20:30]
* jcpham votes Diablo-D3 for bitcoin presidente 2x! [20:31]
Diablo-D3 Ive had enough drama for awhile [20:31]
mircea_popescu FledNanders will it actually take < 5seconds per page load ? [20:31]
FledNanders mircea_popescu - supposedly it will be "lightning fast" [20:31]
hctib FledNanders: that still doesn't explain two days of down time with no notice. [20:31]
FledNanders He didn't comment on that.... But I assume he wants to chase away the bad seeds. [20:32]
FledNanders A little regulator scare might help that. [20:32]
FledNanders Had to take the site down to migrate systems/servers and test things. [20:32]
FledNanders Most likely it won't come back up on Saturday, but Monday after a weekend of bug fixing. [20:33]
mircea_popescu monday, november 5th ? [20:33]
FledNanders He will be contacting people soon regarding bug testers. [20:33]
FledNanders At least that is what the guy who I presumed to be Nefario said when I called the number listed on the whois. [20:33]
rg it was me [20:33]
rg trolling you [20:34]
FledNanders rg - quite possible. i had never spoken to Nefario before. [20:34]
hctib And if you do a good job running scams there's always the ..... government. duh duh duh [20:34]
mircea_popescu FledNanders he sorta sounds like a 50 yo lesbian on her last period. [20:34]
hctib And if you do a good job avoiding scams there's always the ..... government. duh duh duh [20:35]
geod ;;rate arij 1 sold btc for ppusd. fast transaction [20:35]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user arij has been recorded. [20:35]
FledNanders mircea_popescu - i can't say i know what that sounds like [20:35]
mircea_popescu omg somebody used bitcoin-assets for bitcoin business ? [20:35]
mircea_popescu BAN HIM [20:35]
FledNanders "he" sounded to me like a very professional young asian man. [20:36]
FledNanders but that might just be assumption and racist [20:36]
mircea_popescu he's irish [20:36]
mircea_popescu so you're right on the money. [20:36]
mircea_popescu inasmuch as he's young asian he's very professional. [20:36]
k3t3r Fled: did the guy you spoke to sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4iPCpmv678 [20:36]
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mircea_popescu funny tho, FledNanders found the first azn mccarthy [20:37]
k3t3r lol [20:37]
BTC-Mining eh, so what's up with GLBSE [20:37]
mircea_popescu nothing [20:37]
mircea_popescu in fact... everything's down with glbse. [20:37]
k3t3r fine over here [20:38]
mircea_popescu apparently the sec had a change of heart. [20:38]
FledNanders k3t3r - it is tough to say for sure. it is possible but he sounded more asian... [20:38]
FledNanders maybe he was just exhausted and sick of his phone blowing up [20:39]
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FledNanders we talked to 3 minutes and he basically just rattled off glbse 3.0 upgrade features and said he is busy fixing bugs to try and get it up before Monday. [20:40]
FledNanders he could have been in a panic that his number was published or just trying to throw people off [20:40]
FledNanders weird he would give info out over the phone but not on the site [20:41]
FledNanders anyway you know what i know. good luck to us all. i've got a couple grand i would like to see again. [20:41]
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mircea_popescu FledNanders are you serious ?! [20:42]
FledNanders mircea_popescu - call the number [20:42]
FledNanders says the other guy that called him.... [20:42]
FledNanders DeaDTerra - did he mention GLBSE 3.0 to you? [20:43]
smickles someon published his number? [20:43]
FledNanders DeaDTerra - had you spoken to him before? [20:43]
FledNanders smickles - do your research, it is available online [20:43]
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FledNanders I called about 25 minutes ago - when did you call? [20:44]
FledNanders you texted? [20:44]
FledNanders text =/= calling [20:45]
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mircea_popescu what a fascinating turn of events. [20:45]
FledNanders fascinating to who? [20:46]
mircea_popescu rather weak trolling, srsly. [20:46]
FledNanders we'll see... [20:47]
FledNanders call the # [20:47]
FledNanders DeaDTerra - call and ask about GLBSE 3.0 [20:48]
FledNanders see if i was being trolled [20:48]
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jcpham i'll ignore all this tomorrow when I'm off work [20:50]
jcpham saturday too [20:50]
FledNanders jcpham - good call. [20:50]
boonies4u I dodged a bullet on this one [20:50]
boonies4u :P [20:50]
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smickles flednanders, well I already had his number from when he called me months ago [20:51]
smickles ohloggyoffy [20:51]
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mircea_popescu smickles different name from same ip was in yest trying to troll s.dice [20:51]
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hctib how does one troll s.dice? [20:52]
* smickles will be off to lunch then [20:52]
matthewh3 I know Nafario, I've met him, have him on my Facebook and have his phone number but I'm not calling him yet. As I imagine he is very busy and answering lots of calls. I have sent him a message on Facebook tho. [20:52]
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boonies4u so did anyone see anything stranger before the current page went up? [20:53]
boonies4u or did it go out like a light? [20:53]
asa1024 I still have a page up from there [20:54]
boonies4u what is that people are thinking he did? [20:54]
asa1024 usagi - you around? [20:54]
boonies4u that is making you say that you trust him? [20:54]
Bugpowder usagi is incapacitated [20:55]
boonies4u drunk? [20:55]
asa1024 finding a high place [20:55]
Bugpowder [11:36] I have been speaking to nefario privately for weeks [11:36] WEEKS [11:37] Lol [11:37] ahahaha kakobrekla [11:37] I have access to the Bitcoin Global website where all the finalcials and minutes are published [11:37] I am not going to reveal anything supersecret but [11:37] Nefario is fucked [11:37] GLBSE is illegal [20:55]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder then again you gotta consider the source. [20:56]
boonies4u usagi isn't a good source? [20:56]
Bugpowder [12:03] I am sad. :( [12:03] Someone help me please. I'm crying. [12:03] I am sorry. [12:03] I am sorry. [20:56]
mircea_popescu boonies4u hard to tell at this point. [20:57]
boonies4u if that's legit, usagi sold him down the river [20:57]
boonies4u only reason someone would say i'm sorry that many times [20:57]
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matthewh3 even if GLBSE was forced to shut down there are multiple copies of the database and it wouldn't take long until it surfaced on I2p or Tor networks in full with all history, accounts and coin. [21:00]
JWU_42 what is up with usagi ? [21:00]
Bugpowder how does that work for monitizing the assets [21:00]
Bugpowder God this is the best thing that could have possibly happened to Kludge [21:01]
imsaguy2 the multiple copies of the db has been proven? [21:02]
Doffx ;;ident Doffx [21:02]
gribble Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is identified as user Doffx, with GPG key id DE23494FA64F5DA1, key fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address None [21:02]
Doffx I need to add a bitcoin address I spose [21:03]
tbcoin teek toffoo TomServo tonikt Transisto [21:03]
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mircea_popescu matthewh3 they'd have to be signed tho [21:03]
mircea_popescu otherwise useless pretty much [21:03]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder now that's a point. [21:04]
Bugpowder His girlfriend might one day become is wife now [21:04]
mircea_popescu legally ? [21:06]
Doffx Hmm, how do you add a bitcoin address anyhow, I dont see it in the guide. [21:07]
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boonies4u sounds like i'm gonna have to buy a FPGA [21:09]
boonies4u oh well [21:09]
asa1024 x6500 ? [21:09]
boonies4u nah, probably a single [21:11]
asa1024 good luck! [21:11]
boonies4u i have a year long loan https://btcjam.com/listings [21:12]
boonies4u I was going to be activating it, and sending a good amount of funds to GLBSE [21:12]
boonies4u so yeah, I dodged a bullet [21:12]
mircea_popescu well, will be back monday. [21:12]
imsaguy2 oh yeah? [21:12]
imsaguy2 based on what? [21:12]
boonies4u I can't really take YOUR word on that mircea_popescu [21:13]
mircea_popescu lol. i was just saying, they claim this. [21:13]
Doffx ;;ident Doffx [21:13]
gribble Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is identified as user Doffx, with GPG key id DE23494FA64F5DA1, key fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address None [21:13]
mircea_popescu course, it was saturday ~4 hours ago and sunday ~2 hours ago, so maybe it's monay on the newyear's eve [21:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00036272 = 0.1451 BTC [-] [21:16]
boonies4u mircea_popescu: what? [21:18]
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mircea_popescu boonies4u originally site was going to be back saturday. [21:19]
boonies4u mircea_popescu: oh? well, i'll be waiting for update on saturday [21:19]
boonies4u that is what I told my investors [21:19]
hctib It says that there will be an update on Saturday. [21:19]
boonies4u ^ [21:20]
mircea_popescu Oct 04 18:38:35 I got a answer from Nefario. He can't comment on the downtime until Sunday. [21:20]
mircea_popescu course... [21:20]
boonies4u oh, well then... [21:21]
boonies4u pfff [21:21]
boonies4u ;;slap DeaDTerra [21:21]
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Luceo Does no one ever get bored of people not being able to comment? [21:22]
Luceo Why cant people just be honest? :( [21:23]
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hctib bored no. annoyed maybe [21:23]
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mircea_popescu Luceo because when people ARE honest various idiot forumdwellers bitch whine and moan. [21:24]
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Diablo-D3 okay so [21:26]
Diablo-D3 glbse is down [21:26]
Diablo-D3 nefario ran away with all the money [21:26]
Diablo-D3 fuck him [21:26]
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Luceo mircea_popescu: Fuck the forum dwellers, I'd rather hear the truth [21:28]
mircea_popescu Luceo it has been my policy from day one. [21:28]
mircea_popescu heck, the pr girl even got a signed document to that effect. [21:28]
mircea_popescu it was published there, to much huzzah. [21:28]
Doffx ;;ident Doffx [21:28]
gribble Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is identified as user Doffx, with GPG key id DE23494FA64F5DA1, key fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address 1Q9FavHENPK7sATGm8ebthxG9EhQmaamw2 [21:28]
Doffx Yay, sorry for the spam. [21:28]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 ironic, isn't it [21:28]
Doffx Its really me mircea_popescu! [21:28]
asa1024 congrats Doffx - you got it! [21:28]
Doffx Thanks! [21:29]
mircea_popescu lol wd. [21:29]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: it is ironic. [21:29]
Luceo Not too keen on the 30 BTC fee for mpex :/ [21:29]
Luceo Will make the market less liquid [21:29]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: the big irony is, I just announced officially Im shutting DMC down due to nefario's incompetence [21:29]
Luceo Would have thought you'd want to seize the fallout from GLBSE [21:29]
asa1024 mircea_popescu: would the fee also include current beta testers of coinbr.com? [21:29]
Luceo asa1024: afaik coinbr users just use the coinbr account so they dont pay mpex fees [21:30]
asa1024 popular man [21:30]
Luceo But its higher trading fees [21:30]
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asa1024 ty luceo for the answer!! [21:30]
mircea_popescu Luceo you should have gone in when it was 20 [21:30]
asa1024 :) [21:30]
mircea_popescu or else, you know... wait for it to be 50 [21:30]
mircea_popescu when btc is also 50 [21:30]
mircea_popescu make a real loss. [21:31]
mircea_popescu asa1024 coinbr has its own account, you don't pay me fees. [21:31]
asa1024 ok ty sir! [21:31]
rg DERP [21:31]
rg hey mircea [21:32]
rg DERP [21:32]
mircea_popescu sup [21:32]
Luceo I might try OT [21:33]
rg Luceo [21:33]
rg what ever happened to that raffle [21:33]
Luceo mircea_popescu: The reason I dont like the reg fee at mpex is that you keep all the idiots out so I cant just exploit them for easy btc :( [21:33]
Luceo rg: It's still going [21:33]
mircea_popescu Luceo these exploits tend to end up blowing in your face [21:34]
rg how many tickets left [21:34]
rg 10000 ? [21:34]
Luceo Over 2/3 sold [21:34]
mircea_popescu take BTC-Mining as a fine example. he thinks he;'s been exploiting idiots [21:34]
mircea_popescu except... if he gets nothing back off glbse now, is he actually a winner here ? or a net loser ? [21:34]
rg someone kick mircea [21:34]
Diablo-D3 I guess if nefario destroyed GLBSE, it makes shutting DMC down easier =/ [21:34]
mircea_popescu trying to invest in the sense of "exploting idiots" never works aout, it's pretty much the same thing as trying to time a ponzi. [21:34]
rg dude [21:34]
rg stfu! [21:34]
rg stop saying shit like that [21:34]
mircea_popescu rg whats your problem lol [21:35]
Luceo rg: 310 [21:35]
rg not you [21:35]
rg [14:34] I guess if nefario destroyed GLBSE, it makes shutting DMC down easier =/ [21:35]
rg theres no reason to think GLBSE is destroyed for any reason [21:35]
boonies4u ^ [21:35]
Diablo-D3 yeah well, I have trouble giving a shit anymore [21:35]
Diablo-D3 nefario can go fuck himself [21:35]
rg umad bro [21:36]
rg ? [21:36]
* rg gives you a back rub [21:36]
Diablo-D3 Mad? Somewhat. [21:36]
Diablo-D3 you're subscribed to the dmc thread, right? [21:36]
rg i am proud to say i am not subscribed to ANY threads [21:36]
rg not even one [21:36]
grubles !ticker s.dice [21:37]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.00325001 / 0.00337508 / 0.0034 (1794402 shares, 6,056.27 BTC) [21:37]
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mircea_popescu rg are you from like, 2011 ? [21:38]
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BTC-Mining mircea, what? How am I exploiting anyone? [21:39]
mircea_popescu as in, buy cheap sell high. [21:40]
mircea_popescu see luceo's quote for context. [21:40]
BTC-Mining so... trading on the market is explotation now? =P [21:40]
Luceo BTC-Mining: Exploitation isn't always bad, if people are willing to price badly you may as well exploit that [21:41]
mircea_popescu dude, he said he doesn't like mpex cause there's no idiots to exploit [21:41]
mircea_popescu i pointed out that places built on idiots eventually collapse. [21:41]
BTC-Mining I'm pretty sure I never used that term. [21:41]
mircea_popescu leaving aside the fact that i never heard of a place with no idiots. [21:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6221 @ 0.00036272 = 2.2565 BTC [-] [21:42]
mircea_popescu "I am so sorry.. wtf.... glbse shut down.... i have been talking about this for days.. my life ssvings is gone,,," [21:42]
mircea_popescu ^^ [21:42]
mircea_popescu Look guys I am asorrt...l I am druni now.... its not my fault.. I will gibe you my work money. My wife wil kil me.. I mk sorry I am sorry.. I am sorry../// [21:42]
mircea_popescu this is sad. [21:42]
Luceo mircea_popescu: No, I was sarcastically remarking that the fee tends to keep out the sunday traders [21:43]
mircea_popescu are we going to go into a politically corect spiral nao ? [21:43]
Luceo I actually like mpex but the fee does keep out a lot of the smaller traders which can hurt liquidity in such a small market [21:43]
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mircea_popescu Luceo you oddly forget liquidity is what, 10x what glbse was at peak ? [21:44]
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pigeons rg are you trolling or you really think there is no reason to think glbse is toast? [21:46]
MoneyIsDebt Wow, just noticed [21:46]
MoneyIsDebt And it was just yesterday I moved all my funds out [21:47]
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MoneyIsDebt Good timing for once [21:47]
mircea_popescu wd. [21:47]
mircea_popescu SlipFaunders what more did nefario have to say ? [21:47]
pigeons he said "uhh legal stuff" [21:47]
SlipFaunders I have not talked to him since earlier. [21:47]
SlipFaunders Have you? [21:47]
mircea_popescu no, i was busy talking to urmom. [21:48]
SlipFaunders say hi to Elvis while you're at it [21:48]
rg pigeons: serious as cancer [21:49]
rg like i said [21:49]
mircea_popescu cancer is funnay. [21:49]
rg im thinking he tried to integrate some new shit [21:49]
SlipFaunders Are DeaDTerra and I really the only ones that reached out to Nefario? [21:50]
rg to curb the bitching/moaning on IRC/forum [21:50]
rg and found terrible bugs [21:50]
rg too terrible to continue running [21:50]
mircea_popescu so then it's toast. [21:50]
rg umm no [21:50]
mircea_popescu seeing how it has terrible bugs, too terrible to continue [21:50]
mircea_popescu well ? [21:50]
rg he has a new vesrion of the site [21:50]
rg and has had it [21:50]
mircea_popescu right. why trust a. he found them all b. he can fix them ? [21:50]
rg the current site was obsoleted anyway [21:50]
rg no one finds ALL the bugs [21:51]
rg ever [21:51]
rg it doesnt happen [21:51]
mircea_popescu his site is obsolete every 6 months [21:51]
rg ok HTML 1 boy [21:51]
mircea_popescu make new one, fill it with scams, take his cut (refuse/delist those who don't give cut) [21:51]
mircea_popescu then when they all blow, make "new version" [21:51]
mircea_popescu of scam exchange [21:51]
mircea_popescu more scams, more cuts, new version [21:51]
mircea_popescu more scams, more cuts, new version [21:51]
mircea_popescu etc. [21:51]
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rg mircea_popescu: 9/11 [21:52]
mircea_popescu hm ? [21:52]
pigeons the new version was to remove security and make it more accessible [21:52]
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rg glbse has obviously been deeply affected by 9/11 [21:52]
mircea_popescu lolk [21:52]
rg god damn terrorists [21:52]
BTC-Mining When people go crazy, "9/11" [21:53]
BTC-Mining Gets everyone together... to still be crazy? [21:53]
mircea_popescu when peopel say shit you don't wanna hear... "9/11". [21:53]
mircea_popescu works just as well. [21:53]
rg lol [21:53]
BTC-Mining Works too. [21:53]
rg i just say 9/11 all the time [21:53]
rg irl [21:53]
rg 'dude why did you do that james?' [21:53]
mircea_popescu tourgette's ? [21:53]
rg '9/11 man... 9/11' [21:53]
pigeons never forget! [21:54]
pigeons or else the terrorists win [21:54]
Ignatius-otc thanks for the info post BTC-Mining [21:54]
rg people were so dumb about 9/11 [21:55]
BTC-Mining I remember in Family Guy when Lois ran for mayor. Actual speeches left people there not impressed. She said 9/11. The crowd went crazy cheering. So her speech afterward were just repeating "9/11" over and over. Kept the crowd happy. [21:55]
rg a friend of mine still thinks 9/11 should be a national holiday [21:55]
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rg hahaha btc-mining [21:56]
rg i reember that [21:56]
rg i cant believ ethat show is still on [21:56]
rg its not been good since it got canceled [21:56]
BTC-Mining Eh, all shows turn bad. [21:56]
pigeons it was never good, they just tell 1000 jokes and everyone will laugh at a different 3 of them [21:56]
rg pigeons sure it was [21:57]
rg they pioneered that type of 'comedy' [21:57]
rg even the simpsons copied them for a while [21:57]
rg cause of ratings [21:57]
rg now the simpsons is back to just plain sucking [21:57]
rg and so is family guy [21:57]
BTC-Mining No problem Ignatius. Just trying to keep what's known/claimed posted somewhere instead of people having to scour the forum. It's really a mess. [21:57]
kakobrekla copied by using 9/11 to get ratings up? [21:58]
rg [james@elephant The.Simpsons]$ ls [21:58]
rg MISC Season.07 Season.08 Season.11 Season.12 Season.13 [21:58]
rg only good simpsons [21:58]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining link ? [21:58]
rg season 9 is good too but ive seen iit 8000 times [21:58]
rg that's why i dont have it [21:58]
mircea_popescu rg season 9 episode 11 is the best. [21:58]
jcpham HACKER [21:58]
jcpham WAREZ ADDICT [21:59]
rg my favorites are.. [21:59]
BTC-Mining https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115467.0 [21:59]
jcpham i'm calling universal studios [21:59]
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jcpham or who the fuck ever [21:59]
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rg Mr X. , When they go to Japan [21:59]
rg eiei (annoyed grunt) [21:59]
rg that sthe tomacco episode [21:59]
jcpham i haven't seen the simpsons since family guy [22:00]
BTC-Mining There's really not much to go on about. [22:00]
rg Grift Of The Magi, Bart To The Future, ake My Wife Sleaze [22:00]
rg hilarious eps [22:00]
BTC-Mining I have only seen the first seasons actually... [22:01]
jcpham but what is the reward other than some vague social context to discuss an obscure cartoon show [22:01]
rg simpsons is not obscure [22:01]
BTC-Mining Probably like 1 - 6 or 7 [22:01]
rg maybe in vietnam, where you're from [22:01]
jcpham i called it obscure and i meant it [22:01]
jcpham network television, fox? [22:01]
rg RAPE [22:01]
rg RAPE [22:01]
rg RAPE [22:01]
jcpham dying generation [22:01]
rg Fox is dying [22:01]
rg slowly [22:01]
jcpham fail people watch network tv [22:02]
rg i actually watch our local fox affiliates news program [22:02]
rg cause its bad [22:02]
rg and sometimes they have musical artists [22:02]
rg performing their art [22:02]
jcpham cartoon network should pick it up [22:02]
jcpham i wonder why they haven't [22:02]
rg you mean adult swim. [22:02]
jcpham i bet money [22:02]
rg DIFFERENT THINGS [22:03]
rg josh wang [22:03]
rg ha ha i just dropped jcpham's dox [22:03]
jcpham don't be joshing me [22:03]
jcpham anyways maybe i should watch the simpsons [22:04]
jcpham but it really needs to be syndicated more [22:04]
jcpham because its dead [22:04]
rg its usually on fox [22:05]
rg at either 6, 630, 7 or 730 [22:05]
dub im building the future of bitcoin lol [22:05]
kakobrekla is the lol part of the quote [22:05]
dub no, a nefario quote would have at least 17 'like's in it [22:06]
rg fuck ya'll [22:06]
rg haters [22:06]
jcpham oooooh burn [22:06]
rg dont use his shit if you dont like it [22:06]
dub we wont [22:06]
kakobrekla i would if i could [22:06]
dub as soon as we can extract our coins [22:06]
kakobrekla but its down [22:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00036477 = 0.4012 BTC [+] [22:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00036618 = 7.5067 BTC [+] [22:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00036748 = 2.2784 BTC [+] [22:07]
jcpham oh a mad dash to crash the market will work [22:07]
mircea_popescu rg actually... they can't use it even if they like it. [22:07]
jcpham me first me first [22:07]
rg mircea_popescu: you're just mad cause no matter how much glbse fucks up [22:07]
rg people *still* dont want to use mpex [22:07]
jcpham i can point and click [22:08]
mircea_popescu right :D [22:08]
jcpham i need mpex to be point and click friendly [22:08]
rg well [22:08]
rg its like 3 words friendly [22:08]
kakobrekla jcpham, coinbr [22:08]
rg you can do anything on mpex with 1 command [22:08]
dub jcpham: is right [22:08]
rg and like 2+ argumnts [22:08]
dub I only have one hand free [22:08]
jcpham fuck commands [22:08]
jcpham point and click [22:08]
dub how am I supposed to gpg with one hand [22:08]
rg typing is faster than clicking [22:08]
jcpham ok so tablets are pointless [22:09]
dub what teh fuck [22:09]
jcpham let's take 25 years back in ui design [22:09]
dub I might have been raxxed [22:09]
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dub or goxxed [22:09]
mircea_popescu dub jcpham try jurov's thing, coinbr.com [22:09]
rg ok [22:09]
rg i dont like the bad karma in here [22:10]
rg its bumming out my high [22:10]
rg lets all figure out a movie that rg hasnt seen [22:10]
rg but wants to see [22:10]
mod6 Wall St.? [22:10]
dub swap.avi [22:10]
jcpham see that works [22:10]
mircea_popescu UrMom Is Doing Detroit (volume 9) ? [22:10]
jcpham the brokerage can be point and click [22:10]
rg you know ive not yet seen wall st [22:10]
rg the new one [22:10]
dub SWAP.AVI [22:10]
rg that mightve been a good suggestion [22:10]
mod6 the new one was meh, ok. [22:10]
jcpham now we have a service economy based on an exchange [22:10]
mircea_popescu jcpham :D [22:10]
rg if it was higher than a 5.5 on imdb [22:10]
rg ill watch it [22:10]
dub theres a new swap.avi? [22:10]
rg 6.3 [22:11]
rg that's cuttin it pretty close [22:11]
jcpham anyways i'm just trolling [22:11]
jcpham i never bothered to read the instructions [22:11]
mod6 rg: ahh, yeah, it wasnt nearly as good as the original. :/ [22:11]
jcpham i wish i would have now though [22:11]
jcpham for mpex [22:11]
mod6 you should have jcpham [22:11]
mircea_popescu why ? [22:11]
jcpham i regret being lazy [22:12]
mircea_popescu cost you what, like 500 bux ? not the end of the world. [22:12]
jcpham i regret not diversify in your exchange [22:12]
jcpham it's really a matter of laziness [22:12]
jcpham 20 30 btc whatever it is [22:12]
jcpham used to grow on trees [22:12]
mircea_popescu yup [22:12]
jcpham now it doesn't [22:12]
mircea_popescu well, it'll be 50 art some point so. [22:12]
rg mm [22:13]
rg coinbr looks pretty cool [22:13]
rg im glad someone finally fuckin did it [22:13]
dub swap.avi looks pretty cool too [22:13]
Luceo mircea_popescu: Some day that 50 BTC will be $50k :( [22:13]
mircea_popescu Luceo that day the fee will prolly be 500 btc. [22:13]
jcpham the idea is sound really [22:13]
Luceo $500k to join an exchange? :P [22:13]
dub three chicks take turns eating each others dookie, vomiting it back out into their open assholes, then eating it again [22:14]
mircea_popescu Luceo yes. [22:14]
jcpham name a place where it is free to trade securities [22:14]
BTC-Mining Well... I'm sure a chair at any stock market is very costly... [22:14]
mircea_popescu jcpham any place where securities = scams. [22:14]
jcpham you know what i meant [22:15]
mircea_popescu yea i do. [22:15]
BTC-Mining That's why most go through brokers conntected the system doing electronic transactions. [22:15]
mircea_popescu an' yer rifght. [22:15]
jcpham it should cost money [22:15]
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mircea_popescu "I've reviewed your posts, you are definitely not worth doing business with , but carry on. Iggy button on." [22:16]
mircea_popescu the only one thing i regret is that this btc being anon [22:16]
mircea_popescu i can't fucking keep black lists properly. [22:16]
Luceo jcpham: cryptostocks :P [22:16]
jcpham is that the distributed thing [22:16]
jcpham sgornick's thing [22:16]
Luceo Its Vircurex's one [22:17]
sgornick jcpham: ? [22:17]
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BTC-Mining It's your PR person mircea. People hate it. It's a troll. [22:18]
jcpham i'm sorry i'm thinging of the bond thing [22:18]
jcpham let's talk about that since you are here [22:18]
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mircea_popescu BTC-Mining ya well, i'm really sorry I can't practically go "o, you're that cocky bullshitter talking back to my pr ? Fuck you, apologize, pay double or get lost". [22:19]
sgornick > jcpham: i'm sorry i'm thinging of the bond thing [22:20]
sgornick > let's talk about that since you are here [22:20]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is too full of people with absurd ideas about themselves. [22:20]
sgornick jcpham: Is that directed to me? [22:20]
jcpham https://github.com/jgarzik/pybond#readme [22:20]
BTC-Mining I think people are not fan of your bully like talk either Mircea =P [22:20]
sgornick Oh .. .ha .. that has happened like half a dozen times now. [22:20]
jcpham i think i am confused [22:20]
sgornick jgarzik != sgornick [22:21]
jcpham exactly [22:21]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining i can certainly see that. [22:21]
jcpham my apologies [22:21]
sgornick np [22:21]
mircea_popescu sad fact of the matter is, things don't work w/o someone laying down the book ocasionally. [22:21]
BTC-Mining You don't attract investors by giving a 360 degrees "FUCK YOU! TOLD YOU SO!" all around all the time. [22:21]
BTC-Mining No matter if you're right or not. [22:22]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining experience seems to show i do. [22:22]
mircea_popescu ever stopped to think about that ? [22:22]
mircea_popescu "hey, this guy is doing everything wrong and comes up on top all the time... hmm.. maybe I AM WRONG ?!?!" [22:22]
BTC-Mining I think it's more about people who can go over the talk and the fee because of the great issues on MPEx than anything else. [22:23]
BTC-Mining Not because the PR helps. [22:23]
mircea_popescu really, it's about the following fact : vapid idiots aren't investors. investors that are investors follow principles. [22:23]
pigeons but i wanna be an investor! [22:24]
mircea_popescu you don't close a contract by offering people free bonbons unless you're selling cheap shoes for the mass market. [22:24]
teek quite a shit pile we have turned this into guys [22:24]
teek and by we i mean - not me [22:24]
mircea_popescu ahahah line of the day [22:24]
teek some of the others, wow. [22:24]
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BTC-Mining I still believe you're hurting yourself. Attacking everything else without actually promoting yourself? [22:27]
BTC-Mining Not very professional. That PR person should defend MPEx when attacked and give info and answers about it. [22:28]
BTC-Mining Not attack others, if others are bad, real investors will come to the right place. [22:28]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining mpex owns a market. some idiots keep insisting in diluting that market with obvious scams. it's her job to point this out. [22:28]
mircea_popescu no. [22:28]
mircea_popescu scams need to be called out as scams. [22:28]
mircea_popescu THEN real investors will figure things out. [22:29]
mircea_popescu and otherwise, mpex has supported (incl with donations) all sorts of beneficial people and initiatives. [22:31]
BTC-Mining If real investors needs to have the scams pointed out, then they're not really investors... [22:31]
mircea_popescu it's just a matter of, the bad guys have a little cartel going and they're defending each other with empty words. [22:31]
mircea_popescu we disagree on that. [22:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15048 @ 0.00036366 = 5.4724 BTC [-] [22:32]
BTC-Mining It seems so. [22:32]
mircea_popescu well, not the end of the world. [22:33]
dub I support the bad guy cartel theory [22:34]
BTC-Mining Indeed. [22:34]
dub think of intersango, nefario, theymos.. all in the same place, know each other irl, all shady as fuck like some gang of limey grifters [22:36]
boonies4u is that where the fee to join mpex goes? [22:36]
boonies4u to fighting the evil scammer cartels? [22:36]
mircea_popescu boonies4u it goes back as dividends. [22:36]
boonies4u oh? [22:37]
mircea_popescu what did you think lol [22:37]
boonies4u I didn't know how much of mpex was traded [22:38]
boonies4u is it all on the market? [22:38]
mircea_popescu mm, you know it's reported monthly, there's a thread in btctalk [22:38]
boonies4u actually i don;t [22:39]
boonies4u don't* [22:39]
boonies4u link? [22:39]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg1230084#msg1230084 [22:40]
boonies4u oh good luck with that [22:41]
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boonies4u you just think 30 btc would go to more than just bills and dividends [22:44]
boonies4u you would* [22:45]
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mircea_popescu 330 total last month actually [22:50]
mircea_popescu course back then the fee was 20 [22:50]
boonies4u like I said... good luck :P [22:51]
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dub mortal kombat - prom edition http://i.imgur.com/rk5oq.gif [22:53]
boonies4u that's not the prom [22:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32952 @ 0.00036366 = 11.9833 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10648 @ 0.00036461 = 3.8824 BTC [+] [22:57]
pigeons thre goes mircea_popescu trading with himself again. except when he wears that black dress he actually thinks he's trading with someone else [22:58]
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rg boonies4me [22:59]
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BTC-Mining I trade on MPEx, pretty sure all trades are legit. [23:01]
BTC-Mining Even if I don't like MP or his PR person's ways personally. [23:01]
BTC-Mining The exchange is fine as far as I'm concerned. [23:02]
rg mpoe-pr is a cunt [23:05]
rg 4srs [23:05]
pigeons well that's barnum pr [23:05]
jcpham srs? [23:05]
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BTC-Mining Yes, I keep saying this MPOE-PR keeps giving a bad name to his fine exchange. [23:08]
boonies4u rg: did you want something? [23:15]
rg no [23:19]
rg i was just saying hai [23:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00036361 = 3.4543 BTC [-] [23:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00036361 = 6.8359 BTC [-] [23:48]
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