Forum logs for 04 Jan 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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ben_vulpes | okay. back in biz. | [00:04] |
decimation | ;;ping | [00:07] |
gribble | pong | [00:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00064227 = 8.7028 BTC [+] {2} | [00:09] |
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BingoBoingo | https://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi/status/551550993922801664 | [00:37] |
assbot | This is more entertaining than anything on TV right now | [00:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00064565 = 7.7478 BTC [+] | [00:44] |
BingoBoingo | Dramafount continues https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2r9l72/a_message_from_gaw/ | [00:46] |
assbot | A message from GAW : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1tAmrbH ) | [00:46] |
kakobrekla | aha they are getting paper btc | [00:47] |
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BingoBoingo | kakobrekla: Yeah Apparently Silbert's thing hasn't had withdrawals since August because paperwork | [00:48] |
BingoBoingo | !up OGF | [00:48] |
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kakobrekla | pretty fucking sad. | [00:48] |
OGF | Hi | [00:48] |
BingoBoingo | Hello OGF | [00:48] |
BingoBoingo | kakobrekla: Well... He probably had good intentions until the soldering iron found an uncomfortable place. | [00:49] |
BingoBoingo | OGF: What brings you to these parts? | [00:49] |
kakobrekla | idk if we believe in good intentions. | [00:49] |
OGF | to discuss any assetclass investments :) | [00:53] |
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mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo likely story. | [00:54] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Well, either way he goes in the agent pile | [00:54] |
mircea_popescu | "Through time, action and change, I hope we can show you guys that we truly want to contribute to this community." lmao | [00:54] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google "come with a broken spirit! come with a contrite heart! Come in your rags and sin and dirt!" | [00:55] |
gribble | Chapter 20: Page 3 - SparkNotes: [00:55] |
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kakobrekla | one could argue that just like software, silbert was always broken, just only now encountered problematic input. | [00:55] |
mircea_popescu | as clemens aptly points out, aunt polly is a sucker for the "repentant" sinner. | [00:56] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla yes. one so argues. | [00:56] |
mircea_popescu | decimation: kakobrekla: if your bosnia link is true, it strikes me that the most important thing to have in a 'shtf' situation is alot of people on 'your side': family, friends, etc <<< it's pretty accurate. there's no doubt in my mind the guy has first hand experience (ie, is not an internet poseur) | [00:56] |
mircea_popescu | *: adlai wonders how many decades/centuries it'll take for speciation to start between "Homo operandus" and "Homo ignavus" << speciation takes 10s to 100s of ks of years. | [00:58] |
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mircea_popescu | adlai: fwiw, assuming that the fiat parasite sticks around in some form or other, i'd rather have it operate a single UBI program than dozens of badly-coordinated welfare axes << this is not unlike saying that if computer gaming sticks around, you'd rather it consists of one single game. | [00:59] |
mircea_popescu | sure, maybe you'd rather. nobody involved shares this pov : neither the game devs nor the game players. | [00:59] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4716 @ 0.00063024 = 2.9722 BTC [-] | [01:01] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla: there is a school for that? <<< one of the best features of b-a is its potential for culture shock. | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | i don't think i've ever observed as much of it as since being here. | [01:05] |
kakobrekla | cant wait for the bushmans to discover satnet | [01:06] |
mircea_popescu | or for chelsea clinton to start selling nudes. | [01:07] |
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mircea_popescu | http://call-signs.findthedata.com/l/436606/Eric-M-Kook-N1TTZ | [01:09] |
assbot | N1TTZ Callsign - Eric M Kook ... ( http://bit.ly/1tAokoC ) | [01:09] |
mircea_popescu | apparently a lot of stuff is available on hams. | [01:09] |
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mircea_popescu | Overand: per bitcoin.it wiki, transactions are about 500bytes, running at 7tps, so that';s ~3500 bytes/sec or (humorously) 28,000 bits per second <<< not the right math. a block is at most 1mb and there's supposed to be 6 an hour. | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 1 * 8 * 6 / 3600 | [01:12] |
gribble | 0.0133333333333 | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | 133.3 kbps | [01:12] |
mircea_popescu | decimation: 16 kHz is probably the max that you will get allocated politically << by the time blockchain over shortwave, "politically" strictly means bitcoin-assets anyway. | [01:14] |
kakobrekla | lol | [01:14] |
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mircea_popescu | holy shit i made it to the 30th! | [01:18] |
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mircea_popescu | ONE DAY! ONE MAN! HIS COFFEE! TWO WEEKS! | [01:18] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: other than 'surrender' <<< actually jump into the pool. rather than just sit on the edge and dunk toes alternatively. | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | 1. ministry of torrents. | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | 2. political asylum to anyone prosecuted by any 5eyes country or their allies for anything that's not petty crime. | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | 3. actually counterfitting bills. all of them. by the barge, not by the suitcase. | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | all the way to dumping into ocean, encased in plastic bubbles. | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | 4. mandatory sex ed for all women. if you're not a vamp by age 16, you're pigfeed. | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | 5. mandatory hacking classes for all men. if you can't hack your way out of fort knox by age 16, you're going to be some vamp's slaveboi. | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | that sorta thing. | [01:30] |
mircea_popescu | have an explicit goal that half your population must reside abroad under fake identities by 2025. | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | basically... i'd be a jew. | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | (historically, not currently) | [01:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00063024 = 4.1596 BTC [-] | [01:41] |
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BingoBoingo | !up badon | [01:53] |
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mod6 | nice write-up on btcf BingoBoingo. thanks! | [01:55] |
BingoBoingo | Thanks | [01:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00062902 = 7.6426 BTC [-] {2} | [01:58] |
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ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: ministry of torrents?! | [02:12] |
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ben_vulpes | iff | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ud iff | [02:28] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=IFF | i'm fucked foundation- I.F.F ...derived from the G.F.F, Grenade Free Foundation. " Ronny is officially part of the IFF" -The situation. by lovelybuttons45 August 06, ... | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | but yes. a ministry which curates torrents. | [02:28] |
ben_vulpes | misfire. | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | "• When the British got tossed out of their American Colonies, they did all they could, using a combination of import preferences and British “soft power,” to bolster the plantation economy of the American South, helping set it up as a sort of anti-United States, and the eventual result was the American Civil War." | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | orlov is uniquely clueless huh. | [02:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18216 @ 0.00062103 = 11.3127 BTC [-] {2} | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | what is this thing where faux intellectuals look at the soup of symbols their destructured intellects float aimlessly through as a sort of primal matter to be cast into random shapes ? | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | it already has a shape. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | it only appears as a soup because their head's barely functional. | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | "They took a Slavic, mostly Russian-speaking country and spent billions (that's with a “b”) of dollars corrupting its politics to make the Ukrainians hate the Russians." | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | right. obama did holdomor nao o.O | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | the Sh C O is a good point tho. | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | "And so, to make sure that their efforts to provoke a large-scale, hugely destructive, festering conflict between Britain and Europe fail, Europe would do well to set up an anti-Britain within Britain." | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | which is what scotland is. | [02:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6282 @ 0.00064661 = 4.062 BTC [+] {3} | [02:43] |
mircea_popescu | this game was played already. on the whole, merkel is actually much better than hillary rodham, and her spies work much better than the whole us, canada, uk and australia doolitle realm combined. | [02:43] |
mircea_popescu | which is kind-of why the woman was so appaled when she discovered shit-for-brains niggerdongs was actually spying on her fucking phone. it's roughly the insolence of a poodle biting a bulldog. | [02:43] |
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mircea_popescu | !up ascii_modem | [02:44] |
-assbot- | You voiced ascii_modem for 30 minutes. | [02:44] |
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ascii_modem | danke! | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | a wait, he actually identifies it. kay. | [02:44] |
ascii_modem | half your population must reside abroad under fake identities << see chuck palahniuk's hilarious 'pygmy', a tale about precisely this | [02:45] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | it's not something i came up with, by any means. | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo "HTTPS fairs poorly" fares | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | !up binaryatrocity | [02:47] |
-assbot- | You voiced binaryatrocity for 30 minutes. | [02:47] |
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ascii_modem | BingoBoingo would like this one | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | who're you binaryatrocity ? | [02:47] |
ascii_modem | cut-throats from a mythical (but loosely - nk) land are sent to usa. they look young and always masquerade as schoolchildren in the later grades. | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | "The NSA's strength as they disclose here is not math or science advances that allow them to seemingly magically break strong encryption, but the size and scale of their operations along with their ability to recruit collaborators like Microsoft and subvert standards committees." | [02:49] |
mircea_popescu | "the nsa has nothing." | [02:49] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla: makes me think lizard are affiliated with cf. <<< you might also underestimate the retarded generation. | [02:53] |
mircea_popescu | every "security" website's on bootstrap. why ? for the same reason they masturbate. "it's there" | [02:53] |
ascii_modem | bootstrap ? | [02:54] |
BingoBoingo | ascii_modem: Web design turd | [02:54] |
mircea_popescu | ascii_modem that one thing making all the dumbass "we're a ceo" "companies" look alike. | [02:55] |
ascii_modem | i thought that was the dope used therein | [02:55] |
ascii_modem | or the indian rent-an-artists | [02:56] |
ascii_modem | ben_vulpes:oh! and subject of ratpoison, did you evaluate and reject stumpwm at some point? << yes. rejected because heavy. | [03:00] |
BingoBoingo | ascii_modem: Here's the sphincter from which bootstrap turd emerges http://getbootstrap.com/ | [03:01] |
assbot | Bootstrap · The world's most popular mobile-first and responsive front-end framework. | [03:01] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [03:01] |
mircea_popescu | i am ever so grateful that stupidity always and everywhere advertises itself specifically. | [03:01] |
mircea_popescu | "mobile first" eh ? | [03:01] |
mircea_popescu | it's like living in a magical world where all poisonous mushrooms are required by unyielding laws of thermodynamics to be bright orange and glow in the dark. | [03:02] |
ascii_modem | ben_vulpes: heavy not merely in the machine footprint sense, but conceptually. i like wm with ridiculously predictable behaviours and minimal state, like kalash | [03:02] |
mircea_popescu | this is pretty much the only good argument for why it's better to be an intellectual than a labourer. this unique priviledge. | [03:02] |
ascii_modem | in not entirely unrelated news, i found that a vacuum cleaner i recently bought runs - i shit thee not - 'qnx'. | [03:04] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | on mips ? | [03:05] |
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joecool | orly | [03:05] |
ascii_modem | on hell knows what, haven't popped it yet | [03:06] |
ascii_modem | 'botvac-80' | [03:06] |
ascii_modem | http://www.qnx.com/news/pr_5901_1.html | [03:06] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1wNQehd ) | [03:06] |
BingoBoingo | ;;google vax sucks | [03:09] |
gribble | VAX - Catb.org: |
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mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-12-2014#962022 <<< this reminds me of an older discussion with decimation | [03:11] |
assbot | Logged on 30-12-2014 21:19:05; BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/12/30/report_finds_police_officers_killed_on_duty_spiked_in_2014.html | [03:11] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony the story is linked directly under the line you referenced. | [03:12] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google vladimir marchenko | [03:12] |
gribble | Vladimir Marchenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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mircea_popescu | meh, not the ukrainian math guy. | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.benzinga.com/tech/13/05/3563567/meet-the-22-most-important-people-behind-bitcoin << there, lol. | [03:14] |
assbot | Meet the 22 Most Important People Behind Bitcoin - Google Inc. (NASDAQ:GOOG), Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Benzinga ... ( http://bit.ly/1wNQFb2 ) | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | people you never heard about pushed by writers you never heard about on venues you never heard about. it's all very web2.0 an' sophisticated. | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | how finley ended up "behind bitcoin" is anyone's guess, but hey. | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | these guys are 100 to 1000x as productive as a "normal american", so the stuff they write is not necessarily comprehensible to ordinary mortals. | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | "Strateman is a bitcoin developer, best known for co-founding Intersango and the Python bitcoin implementation." no, actually strateman is best know for being one of the scammers involved in the bitcoinica fraud, and before that for being theidiot that emailed the entire list the emails of the entire list, | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | because he can python so well. | [03:17] |
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mircea_popescu | and yes, he still hangs around -dev and so forth, just like gmaxwell and the rest of the walking dead. because who knows, maybe someone forgets or something. | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | maybe it just goes away. | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | maybe if enough bazingas keep acting like it never happened then it really never happened. | [03:17] |
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mircea_popescu | ahaha waaait, diablo! | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | "22. Patrick McFarland (@Diablo-D3) McFarland is the creator of DiabloMiner, a Java GPU bitcoin miner that uses the OpenCL framework to quickly perform the hashing computations. | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | In addition, McFarland is a BitcoinTalk forum moderator." | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | the part where he wanted everyone to give him bitcoin so he gets 1mn of them together to build some sort of weirdo powerplant-dc combo and then got insanely butthurt when people kinda laughed omitted. | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | the part where this thing ended up traded with usagi and who knows what else in bitcointalks most outrageous example of retardation, doing all sorts of insane valuations that essentially resulting in his few investors being fleeced about 95% in the first year also omitted. | [03:20] |
mircea_popescu | ahh this was a great walk in the past, thanks for asking fluff. | [03:20] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: the confucian kingdoms breathe plagiarism like air. <<< "plagiarism", much like "sins of the flesh", is a construction intended to work as a tool for a very peculiar purpose. | [03:28] |
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mircea_popescu | (discussed in more detail http://trilema.com/2013/the-divine-cunt/#footnote_0_50163 ) | [03:30] |
assbot | The Divine Cunt pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bklg6A ) | [03:30] |
mircea_popescu | that it still constitutes a majority of the cultural festooning of the colonies to this day... well... nobody forces the mt obe stupid. | [03:30] |
mircea_popescu | outside of this, there's really nothing wrong with reusing other people's *working* material. | [03:30] |
mircea_popescu | shakespeare did it. | [03:31] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation: well, certainly one cannot be enemies with usg or usg's agents << everyone in bitcoin is and can. | [03:32] |
mircea_popescu | !up Fun1 | [03:32] |
-assbot- | You voiced Fun1 for 30 minutes. | [03:32] |
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Fun1 | :) | [03:33] |
mircea_popescu | who're you ? | [03:33] |
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mircea_popescu | hm doth that mean ddoser kid is back ? | [03:36] |
mircea_popescu | neways, enough excitement for one day. laters! | [03:42] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 | [13:06] |
-assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. | [13:06] |
kakobrekla | !up mircea_popescu | [13:19] |
-assbot- | You have been voiced for 30 minutes by kakobrekla | [13:19] |
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mircea_popescu | what is this scandal! | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | ther most incredible thing about that fun guy's link is that volume is 0 "? | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | wth instrument is that anyway. | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell fun so you ever figure it out ? | [13:36] |
mircea_popescu | oh for crying out loud. | [13:36] |
mircea_popescu | nanotube help us help you. what's gribble need ? | [13:36] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo lol gaw thing has its own forum ? what is this, like ognasty redone ? | [13:38] |
kakobrekla | times 1k. | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | right, louder. i guess not being a total redneck retard helps internet scamming. | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla why would people with large holdings not have inheritance set up ? | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | not like it's 2011 and we're just figuring this novel bitcoin thing out | [13:40] |
cazalla | mircea_popescu, but would the son that inherits them be just as capable as the father who accumulated them? | [13:41] |
cazalla | maybe i got a little bit too much oxygen while walking, i unno | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | i didn't think of sons tbh. i guess that's what inheritance means. | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | no, if i go there's going to be a bunch of ninja vamps suddenly very rich. | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | if i were the world i'd be pretty fucking careful. | [13:42] |
kakobrekla | http://i.imgur.com/k79jIsM.gif | [13:43] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zMj97p ) | [13:44] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [13:44] |
mircea_popescu | punkman: if Satoshi appears and says hey guys I lost the key to 250k coins, how much would the price go up? << wouldn't have any appreciable short term effect. | [13:46] |
thestringpuller | coins are already technically out of circulation | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | punkman: cazalla, better yet, kidnap rich guy's kid, make him buy bitcoin to pay ransom. price goes up for sure. <<< this is unavoidable. no ransom of the future will be anything but bitcoin. | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | the logistics of fiat paper make it useless for the purpose. | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | so brace yourselves, it's gonna be in teh media. | [13:47] |
kakobrekla | yes more ransoms plox to keeps the price ups | [13:48] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: stop giving #b-a criminal ideas | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | "i won't interrupt this sketch for a pound." | [13:48] |
kakobrekla | srs i need meat to live. | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla manmeat ? | [13:48] |
kakobrekla | horse preferably. | [13:48] |
cazalla | zomg thestringpuller, it was clearly stated it was a hypothetical! | [13:49] |
thestringpuller | but it's totally a legit idea! | [13:49] |
mircea_popescu | manhorsecock ?! | [13:49] |
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thestringpuller | Kidnap someone with money, deliver ransom note, "pay in bitcoin or ELSE." You don't even have to have a drop point. | [13:50] |
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thestringpuller | Once money is sent, release hostage. Move along. | [13:50] |
thestringpuller | The mexican's will have a field day when they figure it out. | [13:50] |
mircea_popescu | i don't comprehend this "have to decrypt disk" bs. | [13:50] |
mircea_popescu | i wouldn't decrypt jack if they sat on their head. what the fuck is this, the future or some shit / | [13:51] |
kakobrekla | it may have to with the 'check if its real laptop or bombtop' thing | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | i dun care what words are coming out of their heads. | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | go ahead and check. | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | otherwise, go ahead and destroy it. | [13:52] |
mircea_popescu | decryption does not happen. take it to nsa or whoever the fuck, they're smart righ ? | [13:52] |
kakobrekla | she prolly had the option to leave it there | [13:52] |
mircea_popescu | i guess my mistake here is to imagine the problems of poor people are relevant / the problems of people. | [13:52] |
mircea_popescu | "you can have your laptop back for a pound." | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | "o gosh jolly, wouldn't you rather take a blowjob instead ?" | [13:53] |
kakobrekla | you also carry and old ibm around no? | [13:53] |
kakobrekla | an* | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | last time i flew i carried something like 38 encrypted disks. | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | just the disks, too. interestingly enough, nobody cared. | [13:53] |
kakobrekla | did you have backups of those ? | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. | [13:54] |
kakobrekla | aha | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | also a pile of assorted laptops, batteries, various cards and processors | [13:54] |
cazalla | damn, that's a lot of porn | [13:55] |
mircea_popescu | i was half expecting the customs say something, but they didn't. | [13:55] |
mircea_popescu | but yeah, for the sake of fairness and balance : i dun recall ever having been hassled in any airport for any reason, except guatemala. | [13:55] |
mircea_popescu | who are complete idiots and that country is the absolute asshole of the world, you're better off visiting the new delhi old dump. | [13:56] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla it wasn't all porn! | [13:56] |
mircea_popescu | adlai: it's about time for one of those "velocity per utxo" plots to get updated, my guess is that it'll show that "strong hands" give increasingly fewer shits with each dump, while the churn at the bottom only gets frothier <<< guy's been here what, twelve weeks ? already enlightened. | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | "(2) Can you provide evidence that GAW actually mined (a) any blocks, and (b) anything like the number you claimed you were mining?" | [13:58] |
* | adlai is pretty clueless/restless to qualify for that | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | i lolled. | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | http://i.imgur.com/yeLcKn8.png << i lolled moar. | [14:00] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/17bcIUw ) | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://i.imgur.com/8rwYupE.png etc in the same vein. | [14:00] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/17bcMUc ) | [14:00] |
kakobrekla | 'industry innovator' it sez. damn right. of chumpatronics. | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | the history of this "industry" term is so funny. | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | you will notice it is only used by people who are pointedly not involved in any sort of industrial matter. | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | it got started by the virtual schmucks of hollywood trying to give themselves some word based weight | [14:02] |
mircea_popescu | much like all the shitty studios of the 50s were called like "empire" and "megaultra" etc. | [14:02] |
mircea_popescu | then, the porn people picked it up. it was a very tongue in cheek sort of thing, originally, like a mockery of hollywood. | [14:02] |
mircea_popescu | but that generation soon got pushed out by the tpg braindamaged set, and what was once irony became cereal. | [14:03] |
mircea_popescu | and from there, via warriorforum and the nerve centers of "i failed local college business school" braindamage... it's in every confidence scam on the webs. | [14:03] |
mircea_popescu | (tpg = thumbnail preview gallery, at the time an innovation that consisted of putting eight, then six, then four then three pics in a row and filling pages with such rows. each pic ideally linked to the material (more pics of the same set). then that evolved into the skim, where some pics are linked to whatever junk being sold etc.) | [14:04] |
adlai | we could replace the term with "commons", to remind the participants that by shitting in the reservoir, they sully their own soup too. eg, "garza is a prominent scammer in the bitcoin commons", "bitcoin is causing a power shift in the pornography commons", etc | [14:05] |
mircea_popescu | except there's no commonality. | [14:05] |
cazalla | bit of a spike again https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net | [14:05] |
assbot | Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast | [14:05] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: iirc, it was designed by a woman. i won't psychiatrize on this point, but let's see what mircea makes of it! << i dun get it, so what if a woman designed it ? | [14:06] |
adlai | how so? there's a market, and these "industries" each squabble over their potential market | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | adlai this is merely an artefact of your socialistoid perspective. | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | no, there isn't "a market". | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | we're not all one, all the same, all on the same plane. we don't interact with the same things. | [14:06] |
adlai | hmm i'm not that socialist, i've probably miscommunicated | [14:07] |
kakobrekla | paycoin is sitting at 3.87$ atm btw. | [14:07] |
kakobrekla | not bad at all! | [14:08] |
cazalla | kakobrekla, not possible! | [14:08] |
cazalla | $20 floor | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | isn't this the thing going to be 20 tomorrow ? | [14:08] |
adlai | wasn't it going to be 20 a few days ago? | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | adlai let me give you an example of what i mean. do you know who was the first person to speak german in israel after the war ? | [14:09] |
adlai | no | [14:09] |
mircea_popescu | marlene dietrich. | [14:09] |
adlai | ok, how is this relevant? | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | now, look at it. admitting for the sake of thinking that the germans were entertainers, since you're admitting garza is in business | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | how exactly did the nazis sully the soup for dietrich ? | [14:10] |
adlai | (sounds like a stretch, too, israel has/d plenty of german- and yiddish-speaking immigrants) | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | but they did not speak german anymore. | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | look it up, or ask old people that lived it. | [14:11] |
adlai | well there's a huge prejudice against germany the nation and german the language, even among people my age who don't have any family who suffered in the holocaust - but they just inherited the prejudice because it's so pervasive | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | that's not related to the historical fact in question. | [14:12] |
* | adlai is a little lost, also trying to extinguish fires in a running bot | [14:14] |
* | kakobrekla curious about the fire | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | lol did it get sniped after all ? | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7heXZPl2hik | [14:15] |
assbot | Marlene Dietrich - Lili Marleen - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/17bdPDH ) | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | Vor der Kaserne, wor dem grossen Tor stand eine Laterne und steht sie noch davor... | [14:15] |
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adlai | no, i'm just improving its abstractions to accomodate new exchanges' quirks; and i did this a little carelessly, crashing the one bot. so i'm trying to setup methods in the other bot so it updates to the new code cleanly | [14:16] |
adlai | http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/f_upda_1.htm | [14:16] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/17bdVLF ) | [14:16] |
kakobrekla | which exchanges ? | [14:18] |
cazalla | 4am and finally a yawn, night night.. | [14:19] |
adlai | runs on kraken and bitfinex already, now adding btce | [14:19] |
adlai | chinese exchanges are probably next, although i'd like to do repay some technical debt first | [14:23] |
mircea_popescu | "For most of America’s history, one of the most righteous anti-white supremacist tactics available was looting." | [14:23] |
mircea_popescu | i gotta say lol... | [14:23] |
adlai | at some point it'll be a good idea to make this thing usable to people who don't speak lisp, some sorta local webserver or rpc thingy | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: who somehow lives off their tears <<< i do live off their tears. | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | the one thing i enjoy alongside redditard butttears of impotence is glaring bagging officer not comprehending why he has to bag my groceries. | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | adlai why that ? | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | undata: everybody in america thinks they were somehow robbed of making it big like everyone else did <<< the necessary byproduct of the entire "hero" thing graham & co promote. "work hard and we'll pay one in a million ten thousand times a salary, maybe you'll be him!" | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | just like slag goes with burning coal for power, buncha idiots thinking they were "robbed of making it big like everyone else" goes with "we don't pay you but maybe you get a promotion" | [14:31] |
adlai | make it possible for people to use it without me having to set it up for them myself | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | the irony being that out of the scum in question, no other process can extract any use. | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | if they were merely offered a fair salary for their work they wouldn't take it because "it's not enough to live on". as if "living" is somehow fixed and god ordered that black guy in missouri must live better than black guy in senegal. | [14:32] |
adlai | requiring my magic touch is a sort of "job security", but i'd rather get paid to write new code than configure old apps | [14:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00063819 = 1.1487 BTC [+] | [14:32] |
mircea_popescu | i don't follow the logic of how it would be useful "in general". | [14:33] |
adlai | you mean why anybody would want to use scalpl? | [14:33] |
mircea_popescu | no, but why would everybody want to use it. | [14:34] |
mircea_popescu | as opposed to you know, one single person (presumably you). | [14:36] |
adlai | not everybody, there are plenty of other places to put money; but it's reached the stage where more people are interested in using this than i'd like to hand-hold through the -entire- setup. (this is a very low number of people, i'm not good at customer support...) | [14:36] |
mircea_popescu | on the 0 1 infinity scale i readily see why 1 rather than 0, i just don't grok why infinity rather than one. | [14:36] |
adlai | there are also two ways of interpreting this question - "why would other people want to use it", or "why would adlai want more people to use it" | [14:37] |
mircea_popescu | right ? | [14:38] |
adlai | to maximize the amount of wealth profiting from stabilizing bitcoin | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | the logical approach to that is to increase your bankroll, not to spread among a bunch of idiots. | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | there's a reason capitalism historically flows towards enriching nodes, not elevating the graph. | [14:41] |
adlai | who says i'm not doing both at once? | [14:42] |
mircea_popescu | i don't per se care what yu do, it's a moral discussion. | [14:42] |
mircea_popescu | "what should be done." | [14:42] |
adlai | right. if i get a well-capitalized account profiting from this, what's morally wrong with that? | [14:43] |
adlai | you could point out that i've fallen short of pure greed by not accepting investment, paying dividends, and retaining some fee as a personal profit | [14:44] |
mircea_popescu | nothing at all. (note that i use "moral" properly, not in the bastardized form common among the plethora of would-be stalins without the ballsack.) | [14:44] |
mircea_popescu | let's put it in more general terms. you're proposing to lower the bar of what constitutes a qualified investor. | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu | you propose this as an obvious good. | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu | i dun see the obviousness and hence the inquiry. | [14:45] |
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adlai | i'm not proposing to lower it to the ground, scalpl works quite badly on small accounts, and even with the usability changes i'm imagining, it'll be easy to footgun without either my help or some level of understanding on behalf of the shooter | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu | the degree wasn't in question. | [14:47] |
adlai | well, i do think that an oligarchy is better than a monarchy, if that's what the question is | [14:48] |
kakobrekla | what is a small account ? 0.1 ? 1? 10? 100 ? | [14:48] |
mircea_popescu | adlai why ? | [14:48] |
mircea_popescu | (and generally, moral thought proceeds quite strictly : 1) is this a good thing or a bad thing ; 2) how much of it ? there's no overalpping these stages) | [14:49] |
adlai | resilience in the face of population bottlenecks ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottleneck ) | [14:49] |
assbot | Population bottleneck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1xpo9BX ) | [14:49] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla 1 because it's the smallest amount of number. | [14:49] |
kakobrekla | aha | [14:49] |
adlai | kakobrekla: i'd say you want at least 100x the exchange's minimum order size | [14:50] |
mircea_popescu | adlai that made no sense. | [14:50] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: But... the 3d printed gun dude says burn it all down is an ideology... << i agree. it is. | [14:50] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight' << quite. which is why it's so lulzy to watch. | [14:50] |
mircea_popescu | generally, people tend to hurl as insults/bombs/damage to others what they're most afraid of themselves. there's a very good reason color revolutions exist, and it has nothing to do with ukraine or gaddafi. | [14:51] |
mircea_popescu | errything to do with what every senator knows and fears at home. | [14:51] |
kakobrekla | i havent used any exchange with api for over a year | [14:52] |
adlai | my thinking is along the lines of a society/economy not having all its eggs in one basket. it doesn't have to have one egg per basket, with daily redistributions; a "fit economy still has strong inequality, but it's not skewed all the way to either side of the spectrum | [14:52] |
mircea_popescu | adlai ok but i dunno how this relates to discussion | [14:54] |
adlai | and if morality is part of the question... deep down, i'm one of those software freedom zealots. not quite to the point of GPLing everything i write, but yes to the point of sharing my work. | [14:54] |
mircea_popescu | ie it still doesn't answer my oreiginal curiosiuty | [14:54] |
mircea_popescu | this has little to do with the software in question mind. | [14:54] |
adlai | why not? i've written something useful, i'm trying to make it more useful, and i _believe_ (ie, an opinion more grounded in emotion than evidence) that the right thing to do is share this | [14:55] |
adlai | what's missing from answering your original question? | [14:56] |
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mircea_popescu | all of it. | [14:57] |
mircea_popescu | why do you propose it as a good. | [14:57] |
mircea_popescu | i can readily construct a scenario where it harms, if it helps. | [14:58] |
adlai | please do, i'm typing up another answer attempt meanwhile | [14:58] |
mircea_popescu | okay. suppose currently robot has use cost X, expressed in some translated value of he sophistication/time/etc needed to use it. | [14:59] |
mircea_popescu | suppose you move it to X-e | [14:59] |
mircea_popescu | this increases the pool of users from U to U+x. the average sophistication of x is < than the average of U. in fact it's common even if we won;t rely on it that the peak of x is under the lowest of U. | [14:59] |
mircea_popescu | this will increase failures from F to F+y, where y/F > x/U > e/X | [15:00] |
mircea_popescu | this is the definition of harm. | [15:00] |
adlai | we know nothing about failure rates from outside U, or failure rates of the original users after more have joined | [15:01] |
mircea_popescu | in which case at most we can't say whether it's a good or bad idea, and shouldn't bother with it at all ? | [15:01] |
adlai | the way scalpl works currently, you can use it badly and lose money, just like with any investment; and that is likely to never change | [15:01] |
mircea_popescu | yes, but by the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mhLp0abU get involved, you know they'll mostly lose. | [15:02] |
assbot | homicide da union - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xprst3 ) | [15:02] |
mircea_popescu | if they didn't mostly lose, they wouldn't be "homicide da union", they'd be the cupcakes and crumpets core. | [15:02] |
adlai | the latecomers will likely lose wherever they go, i'm less focused on making it easier for them, more on making it easier for users #3-10 | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu | oh i see. | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu | good point. | [15:03] |
thestringpuller | easy sunday all | [15:03] |
thestringpuller | how is the cult today? | [15:03] |
adlai | reaching the end of an argument. quick, say something socialist! | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu | you just missed the spanish inquisition. | [15:03] |
adlai | :D | [15:03] |
thestringpuller | uh, i believe all people should be given everything equally | [15:04] |
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mircea_popescu | i just gave the girls some penis. | [15:04] |
mircea_popescu | kneel an' say aah ? | [15:04] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu should donate 10% of the MPOE profits to charity | [15:04] |
thestringpuller | so that homeless people can have free access to drugs | [15:04] |
mircea_popescu | that's not socialist, that's pharma oligopolist! | [15:05] |
mircea_popescu | o wait, you meant psychoactives ? | [15:05] |
thestringpuller | Haha! | [15:05] |
adlai | mircea_popescu: you may be overestimating the maturity of my project... it's existed outside my head, as running code, for under 9 months; and has only turned profitable during the latter half | [15:05] |
thestringpuller | adlai sorry, seems I'd have to dig through some socialist propaganda to say something socialist. its surprisingly hard to come up with something | [15:05] |
mircea_popescu | adlai i was just discussing teh principle involved. | [15:05] |
adlai | sure | [15:06] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller now you see how the cult is doing. | [15:06] |
mircea_popescu | was a funny exercise in "so i shouldn't make emacs easier to use for the people already using it because this will lower the barrier to entry for idiots and ruin the party ? what are you, insane ?" | [15:07] |
mircea_popescu | pretty good. | [15:07] |
thestringpuller | VIM 4 LYFE | [15:08] |
adlai | notepad++!!!! | [15:08] |
mircea_popescu | (i dun really emacs either) | [15:08] |
thestringpuller | Random: oh wow this was napex thing right: | [15:08] |
adlai | emacs is useful for a few things, terrible for most others | [15:08] |
thestringpuller | http://bravenewcoin.com/news/romanias-only-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down-due-to-disgruntled-programmer/ | [15:08] |
mircea_popescu | i guess vi + bash is a sort of retarded man's emacs. | [15:08] |
thestringpuller | Naphex* | [15:08] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo incidentally, qntra ever cover the btcexchange thing ? | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | seeing how the exclusive was right here in teh logs | [15:09] |
thestringpuller | I think cazalla was waiting for more news, and maybe we all forgot? | [15:10] |
mircea_popescu | i guess. | [15:10] |
adlai | would qntra be interested in coverage of garza @ btcmiami? | [15:10] |
mircea_popescu | was easy pickings for an article anyway | [15:11] |
mircea_popescu | i imagine so. | [15:11] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla seems to have a hardon for the guy. | [15:11] |
adlai | irl coverage is less easy pickings | [15:11] |
mircea_popescu | Pierre_Rochard: Hi, I was starting to miss this place << preach it sistar! | [15:11] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: just because its old news doesn't mean there still isn't exclusive content to pull from | [15:12] |
* | adlai should check the schedule, make sure he'll be free for the juicy bits | [15:12] |
thestringpuller | not as novel tho | [15:12] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [15:12] |
mircea_popescu | Pierre_Rochard: that keeps me from opening it myself, but doesn’t keep me off twitter haha << http://scripts.irssi.org/ might halp | [15:13] |
assbot | Irssi Scripts ... ( http://bit.ly/1xpuxcp ) | [15:14] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: OMG MP vacation has been one of the best things to happen to MPOE price... aside from saving OpenBSD. << my lyf ;/ | [15:15] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [15:15] |
mircea_popescu | nano is apparently on a vacation of his own | [15:16] |
thestringpuller | XD | [15:16] |
thestringpuller | nanotube you got some 'splainin to do | [15:16] |
thestringpuller | the price collapse is amazing, reminds me of October 2012 | [15:17] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [15:17] |
adlai | holy fuck the mop is amazing | [15:17] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [15:17] |
thestringpuller | ^- i partially think this is kako's way to condition us to stop using the world amazing | [15:17] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [15:17] |
thestringpuller | word* | [15:17] |
adlai | but some things, like the mop, are truly amazing | [15:18] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [15:18] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: http://russian.rt.com/article/67122 << another current mega-lol. ua fission plant installs 'westinghouse' fuel rods, begins to leak. << there's just no way ukraine doesn't end up with another nuclear blast. | [15:20] |
assbot | На Запорожской АЭС произошла утечка радиации - уровень превышает норму ... ( http://bit.ly/1xpw2rf ) | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | they're out of power, desperate enough. | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | o look at that, the exchanges quoting under 300 ? lol. k. | [15:24] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo lol gaw thing has its own forum ? what is this, like ognasty redone ? << Pretty much except redone by seasoned rural telecom bezzel turdmeisters. 3 Years experience or some shit. OgNasty down to the fan club. | [15:26] |
mircea_popescu | !up MetatronOne | [15:26] |
-assbot- | Insufficient rights, mircea_popescu, !up yourself on PM first. | [15:26] |
mircea_popescu | for crying out loud. | [15:26] |
chanserv | OP mircea_popescu | [15:26] |
chanserv | OP | [15:27] |
chanserv | OP #bitcoin-assets mircea_popescu | [15:27] |
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MetatronOne | o/ | [15:28] |
mircea_popescu | "I learned a valuable lesson here though. Don’t trust .gitignores and gems like Firago for keeping your data safe," | [15:29] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, don't trust ror. | [15:29] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: Why does my brother pretend he has not the slightest bit of racism in him yet when he moves to the city chooses a Bosnian neighborhood over a black neighborhood? <<< i can see a few reasons right off. | [15:31] |
mircea_popescu | such as, the womenz. maybe he ran into a few adolescent bosniac sluts on his recon visit | [15:31] |
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mircea_popescu | now with illustrations : http://www.cumonmy.com/galleries/2014-updates/01-001-pussy-ass-beach-janelle/Nude-Beach-Girls-Update/teen/nude-beach-girls-babes-young-teen-girls-beach-ocean-naked-free-porn-cumonmy-com-044.jpg | [15:33] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1xpzBO8 ) | [15:33] |
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Naphex | gribble down? | [15:33] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. | [15:34] |
Naphex | ;/ | [15:34] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo incidentally, qntra ever cover the btcexchange thing ? << In a couple shorter bits. Waiting for another point of lulz inflection to do much more. | [15:35] |
mircea_popescu | ah k | [15:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5723 @ 0.0006447 = 3.6896 BTC [+] | [15:36] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform wait, so your SO is a black girl ? | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla: he ragequit ? << prolly related to http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-october-2014-statement-closing/#comment-109550 | [15:46] |
assbot | WarOfLife (S.WOL), October 2014 Statement (closing) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xpCUEV ) | [15:47] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: kakobrekla: b/c man living as man was meant to << seriously, man was meant to live like that ?! i dunno... | [15:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2110 @ 0.00086513 = 1.8254 BTC [-] {3} | [15:49] |
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mircea_popescu | TomServo: I'm surprised ol' Brucey Bruce isn't parroting the "OMG NK!!1" line. << "Tellingly, the FBI's press release says that the bureau's conclusion is only based "in part" on these clues. This leaves open the possibility that the government has classified evidence that North Korea is behind the attack. The NSA has been trying to eavesdrop on North Korea's government communications since the Korean War, and it's rea | [15:53] |
mircea_popescu | sonable to assume that its analysts are in pretty deep. The agency might have intelligence on the planning process for the hack. It might, say, have phone calls discussing the project, weekly PowerPoint status reports, or even Kim Jong Un's sign-off on the plan." | [15:53] |
mircea_popescu | he;s doing as much of that as he possibly can. | [15:53] |
mircea_popescu | just... has to cover his bets, because he might be old but he suspects he'll outlive teh muppet show. | [15:54] |
mircea_popescu | i especially loved the "it might have". yeah, and i might have fucked obama in the ass. | [15:54] |
mircea_popescu | why not ? maybe he's a gimp slaveboi. he certainly looks it. heck, maybe i put it all on weekly powerpoints. | [15:55] |
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kakobrekla | [15:56] | |
mircea_popescu | i see a bipedal dog. | [15:57] |
kakobrekla | aha yes its very abstract. | [15:57] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes: gossip from the glider club: guys in construction (yachts etc) are talking about 5% cogs increases every month for the past 3 << translate the significance of this for the aerodynamically innocent ? | [15:57] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla he probably even struggles in opposition of bathing as much as the usual dog. | [15:57] |
BingoBoingo | https://twitter.com/DarthNull/status/551758629406527488 | [15:58] |
assbot | The hits keep coming. Now /CNN is quoting a parody Twitter account without any kind of fact checking whatsoever. http://t.co/67dFklxBEL | [15:58] |
kakobrekla | but is he a slave? | [15:58] |
kakobrekla | and if he is, to whom? | [15:59] |
mircea_popescu | well i dunno whose shit he's guarding there | [15:59] |
kakobrekla | anyway ill let ascii argue that one out. | [15:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00064586 = 10.9473 BTC [+] {3} | [16:02] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla: so due to this thing called new year there is 57 bets waiting resolution. good luck to the mods. << i'd say they did pretty okay! | [16:03] |
kakobrekla | my inbox agrees | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony: cazalla: Gordhan is a smart man, but they're doing exactly as expected - they're just going to copy what everyone else is doing << your definition of smartness is very tolerant. | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla only 4565 cookies ? | [16:04] |
kakobrekla | 0 negative cookies | [16:04] |
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fluffypony | mircea_popescu: a street criminal can be smart, not the same as being visionary or being clever :) | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | granted. | [16:05] |
kakobrekla | but the active bets is kinda low, down to 41 also thanks to my 'genius' mandatory zeroconf | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, but the wanna-be soam in comments is up lol | [16:09] |
kakobrekla | soam? | [16:09] |
kakobrekla | foam? | [16:10] |
kakobrekla | scam? | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | spam lol | [16:10] |
kakobrekla | fuck im so irrogant | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | "we have a billion bitcoins, can't afford advertising, here's a link you have to c/p" | [16:11] |
kakobrekla | idk why nobody made a bot yet | [16:12] |
mircea_popescu | guess. | [16:13] |
kakobrekla | it cant be. | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | o but it is. | [16:14] |
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mircea_popescu | punkman: http://www.pokerstars.gr/en/poker/room/support/pwt-faq/ <- mega lol <<< heh, as if anyone will EVER pay taxed gambling. | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | idiots. | [16:26] |
assbot | Default Heading Text DCR ... ( http://bit.ly/1BxLXm4 ) | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | xanthyos: thestringpuller: what if we created a #bitcoin-assets pokerstars home game club and had a way that every account generated was tied to a gribble-authed account, and use it as both a gaming platform as well as a record-keeping ledger for off-blockchain track of wins and losses <<< check it out kakobrekla | [16:27] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, that's an idea we were going to develop but didn't actually get started on. | [16:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14192 @ 0.00062857 = 8.9207 BTC [-] | [16:27] |
mircea_popescu | it's actually a very good idea, and i'd still like to see it done. | [16:27] |
kakobrekla | any bitcoin poker site already struggles for existence or is half dead or completely dead. adding another barrier to the mix i do not need to continue this sentence. | [16:30] |
kakobrekla | btc right now is pretty much : you are an exchange or dead or dead exchange | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | only because ineptly run. | [16:35] |
BingoBoingo | http://freekeene.com/2015/01/04/should-protesters-lose-their-gun-rights/ | [16:38] |
assbot | Should Protesters Lose Their Gun Rights? | Free Keene ... ( http://bit.ly/1BxO5dv ) | [16:39] |
mircea_popescu | derp. | [16:41] |
mircea_popescu | "rights = just like freedom, except when you might need them or wish to use them. then they're like a cock up your ass." | [16:42] |
adlai | random bit of info, some node claiming to be BTCXchange still running: receive version message: /BTCXchange.ro Mapper:0.01/: version 60000, blocks=230000, peer=85.9.53.226:38151 | [16:43] |
Naphex | it is still running | [16:43] |
* | adlai hasn't been following the story closely | [16:43] |
Naphex | everything there is still running | [16:44] |
Naphex | lol | [16:44] |
adlai | blocks=230000 is a little worrying >_> | [16:44] |
Naphex | thats a dnsseed | [16:44] |
Naphex | it scans nodes | [16:44] |
Naphex | pings them and stuff and keeps em in a list | [16:44] |
Naphex | dosn't sync anything, and is just some fake checkpoint reported. it is only interested in the version message | [16:45] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "S&P 500 to drop under 1700 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1087/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 16(Y):84(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.31560018 BTC. Current weight: 76,006. | [16:45] |
Naphex | but the bitcoin node is running fine from what i can see https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/85.9.53.226-8333/ | [16:45] |
assbot | 85.9.53.226:8333 - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1BxP7q1 ) | [16:45] |
* | adlai out to dinner | [16:46] |
adlai | but thanks for the explanation | [16:47] |
Naphex | np | [16:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10625 @ 0.00065162 = 6.9235 BTC [+] | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu | "I know the the responsible for the conference, and his integrity is unquestionable." | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | reddit is ever lulzy. | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, who is this "integrity unquesitonable" guy we forget to mention ? | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | generally that point should be made by the man's name, not by idle adulation by (other) anon entities. | [17:18] |
kakobrekla | best scammers will walk free | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | decimation: I would like to put in a good word for KnC miner. << so it actually works out to them booking a nominal loss because of spot movement ? | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | heh. | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | lol ook, buterin, ver and ... wtf is wrong with gallippi ? | [17:23] |
mircea_popescu | go there hang out with like... all the scammers, all the have-beens and all teh posers ? | [17:23] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway. moe levin. never heard of him. | [17:24] |
mircea_popescu | (i mean, prior to becoming bitpay ceo) | [17:25] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla : maybe ask the man where he did his 6 months' study ? | [17:25] |
mircea_popescu | "We think that a Q&A period, moderated by someone you choose, will provide the proper forum for people to make their voices heard. We think that this layout, instead of a speech, is the appropriate forum." | [17:26] |
mircea_popescu | having "their voices heard" ? seriously ? | [17:26] |
mircea_popescu | lol. mmmmkay. | [17:26] |
mircea_popescu | what are bitcoin people supposed to be, a sort of ferguson negroes, "hey, nothing will happen because reasons, but here, have this tupperware container to scream in." | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller: cazalla: "I helped run plenty of conferences." << no, he has a point. that's exactly how that racket works. | [17:28] |
[]bot | Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ | [17:33] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller: it's funny how Gavin is all "I want bitcoin to compete with Visa/Mastercard", when anyone in Payment Processing knows those systems are seriously nigga rigged as is. << nobody expects gavin to say something sensible anymore than they'd expect ronald mcdonald to. | [17:33] |
mircea_popescu | he's the guy in the satoshi costume. | [17:33] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,986. | [17:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00062468 = 13.8054 BTC [-] {3} | [17:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9290 @ 0.00062414 = 5.7983 BTC [-] | [18:57] |
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mircea_popescu | ah | [19:08] |
BingoBoingo | And yet gasoline is now under $2 a gallon here. | [19:10] |
mircea_popescu | decimation: re: costco & amex << I suspect amex gives costco a deal (pays them) to force a large percentage of the upper-crust customer-base to have an amex card in their wallet << pretty much how that racket goes yes. | [19:10] |
kakobrekla | lol euro https://charts.mql5.com/6/626/eurusd-h1-worth-ltd-venetfx-3.png | [19:10] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1rUF8v3 ) | [19:10] |
kakobrekla | (just opened) | [19:10] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [19:11] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski: but parents who found out that their kids had been disciplined at school often disciplined the kid again at home << pretty much yes. | [19:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062683 = 3.761 BTC [+] {2} | [19:15] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes: it may be unfair to tar all work done since satoshi with the power rangers brush. <<< term only came of age last year. | [19:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00062312 = 11.6523 BTC [-] {2} | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | woot all caught up | [19:23] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ping | [19:23] |
mircea_popescu | http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000026.html << this is quite splendid. | [19:25] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1rUIVIT ) | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | well done mod6 an ben_vulpes | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | an jurov | [19:26] |
mircea_popescu | an who else is doing stuffs there | [19:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37404 @ 0.00061065 = 22.8408 BTC [-] {3} | [19:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.0006014 = 7.0965 BTC [-] {3} | [19:31] |
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thestringpuller | Chairman Popescu. | [22:33] |
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Apocalyptic | !up mircea_popescu | [22:33] |
-assbot- | You have been voiced for 30 minutes by apocalyptic | [22:33] |
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Apocalyptic | still no gribble eh | [22:33] |
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thestringpuller | yea no one knows where he is | [22:43] |
mircea_popescu | heya & thanks | [22:46] |
ben_vulpes | dag. looks like this irc thinger's getting fragile. | [22:46] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: did anything come of your conversations with "t"? | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | no. | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | i see guy's still idling here tho | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway, since we're on it : anyone wish to write a proper ircd ? | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | ima make a spec for it. | [22:47] |
ben_vulpes | and a bouncer, while we're at it. | [22:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6142 @ 0.00064049 = 3.9339 BTC [+] | [22:47] |
thestringpuller | ircd? | [22:48] |
ben_vulpes | znc is broken flaky hellspawn. | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. i guess this calls for a whole new category on trilema. | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | ima do it once done with reports, announcements and other first of month stuff | [22:48] |
ben_vulpes | "shit mp wants built" | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | the thing where i put it in a pastedbin dun work, im sick of looking up the url for the deedbot one. | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla qntra wordcounts ? | [22:49] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: those have been up since the 1st: http://qntra.net/2015/01/qntra-s-qntr-december-2014-statement/ | [22:52] |
ben_vulpes | is there a pompous name for the l2 list? the dukes? | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes lordship list, sure | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | oh ty thestringpuller | [22:53] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: l1's the lordship list? | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | ah yes my bad. | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | teh... knighthood ? | [22:54] |
ben_vulpes | the peerage? | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | most honorable order of teh bath ? | [22:54] |
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mircea_popescu | speaking of which... http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orden_del_Baño | [22:55] |
assbot | Orden del Baño - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre ... ( http://bit.ly/1zN9WMa ) | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | because we translate proper nouns now. | [22:55] |
ben_vulpes | ooh most noble order of the garter | [22:55] |
ben_vulpes | garter snakes hueeee | [22:56] |
mircea_popescu | lol works | [22:56] |
ben_vulpes | no its horrible | [22:56] |
mircea_popescu | "the cult" ? | [22:57] |
ben_vulpes | "the hoplites"? | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | then the verb for joining could be "cultured" | [22:57] |
ben_vulpes | ew. | [22:58] |
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mircea_popescu | i dunno, ask tat, he's the naming fiend. | [22:58] |
mircea_popescu | or mebbe hanbot | [22:58] |
mircea_popescu | wow check out mike_c dominate the qntra wordcounts in dec. | [22:59] |
Apocalyptic | you're probably looking at the first bytes of the fingerprint, not his wordcount heh | [23:00] |
Apocalyptic | happened to me too | [23:01] |
thestringpuller | XD | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | oh oh lol | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | oops | [23:01] |
thestringpuller | where has TaT been? | [23:01] |
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mircea_popescu | ascii_modem: 'plagiarism' may be a 'sin of the flesh', but plagiarists exist just the same as 'wankers' exist. << not what i meant. what i meant was the construct's nonsense. | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | there is no such thing as "plagiarism" anymore than there's burning bushes or actual sides of christmeat. | [23:03] |
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thestringpuller | !up mircea_popescu | [23:04] |
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mircea_popescu | whaty's this altgribble thing ? | [23:07] |
kakobrekla | someone runs a gribble clone | [23:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00063347 = 4.3076 BTC [-] | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | but how is this possible ? | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | i mean... if you rate with it, it updates the db ? | [23:11] |
Apocalyptic | nope | [23:11] |
kakobrekla | i guess you cant rate | [23:11] |
Apocalyptic | you can't rate | [23:11] |
kakobrekla | see | [23:11] |
kakobrekla | my guess is better than sexyginger | [23:11] |
Apocalyptic | dat kako | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | decimation: such a law is obviously intended to protect criminals (politicians, bureaucrats) <<< or young women having casual sex. | [23:12] |
scoopbot | New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/mpif-fmpif-december-2014-statement/ | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | so basically it doesn't do anything. | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | why'd i trust it's "registered" claims. | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | decimation: my only problem is that it seems somewhat dangerous << from what i hear it's actually safer than flying planes. | [23:13] |
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ben_vulpes | !up Phraust | [23:15] |
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Phraust | :) | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | "moms who persist in using big, boxy PC computers and small-town police departments." | [23:16] |
mircea_popescu | fucking idiots these people. | [23:16] |
mircea_popescu | my computer is "big, boxy PC" | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | and it shits on his useless applepad or whatever the fuck it is. | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | how goes Phoebus | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | i mean Phraust | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | "So what can we all do to protect ourselves? Keep our computers backed up on an independent drive or by using a cloud backup service like Carbonite, take those software update and “patch” alerts seriously" | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | mno. but anyway. | [23:17] |
Phraust | not bad. livin' the dream :D | [23:18] |
Phraust | finally got time to irc again. what's been crackin'? | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | "Welcome to the new ransomware economy, where hackers have a reputation to consider." "welcome to the post-modern world, where 'criminals' are more reliable than governments, and certainly more useful." | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | Phraust not much really. same old bs, restated in all seriousness by a new generation of turnips. | [23:19] |
* | Phraust nods. | [23:19] |
Phraust | THings just ain't the same for gangsters. | [23:19] |
mircea_popescu | just as an idle exercise, imagine how that article'd have sounded if the criminals were some usg agency, stealing the woman's drive and not giving it back. | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | i seem to recall a bunch of these, and they're all fucking respectful. | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | time for a tone change, mainstream media. | [23:21] |
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kakobrekla | !up PinkPosixPXE | [23:33] |
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ben_vulpes | !up mircea_popescu | [23:34] |
-assbot- | You have been voiced for 30 minutes by ben_vulpes | [23:34] |
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PinkPosixPXE | thank you | [23:36] |
ben_vulpes | how've you been? | [23:36] |
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PinkPosixPXE | oh man.. I've been helping my friend who runs a VPS provider, gigebox.com, migrate everything to a new host node | [23:38] |
PinkPosixPXE | all his containers | [23:38] |
mircea_popescu | o hey, PinkPosixPXE | [23:38] |
PinkPosixPXE | and wrote an ipv6_ddos mitigations cript | [23:38] |
PinkPosixPXE | script | [23:38] |
PinkPosixPXE | for him | [23:38] |
ben_vulpes | that's a shitload of work yow | [23:38] |
mircea_popescu | is it any good ? | [23:38] |
PinkPosixPXE | ovh works for our ipv4 stuff | [23:38] |
cazalla | mircea_popescu, posted 5 days ago http://qntra.net/2015/01/qntra-s-qntr-december-2014-statement/ | [23:38] |
assbot | Qntra (S.QNTR) December 2014 Statement | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1Aulvf9 ) | [23:38] |
ben_vulpes | i've been digging through https://twitter.com/ipxcore/ (ghetto vps) for uptime gems | [23:39] |
assbot | IPXcore (@ipxcore) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1AulBU2 ) | [23:39] |
PinkPosixPXE | but ipv6 is more difficult, so this does a count on the packets, and if it exceeds the limit, it finds the ipv6 address, and vps in question, and then disables those addresses on the vps so they can't be targetted | [23:39] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla yeah i see. qntra is so successful i got lost among the articles :) | [23:39] |
mircea_popescu | PinkPosixPXE doesn't sound like much mitigation. | [23:39] |
PinkPosixPXE | I'm going to update it to set a timer to re enable them after a certain period of time and do some updates to it, but it's been keeping things up for the last few weeks | [23:39] |
PinkPosixPXE | well when the packet limit is breached, usually the vps will be suspended | [23:40] |
cazalla | mircea_popescu, i was first! as they say, some people are so far behind the race that they actually believe they are leading :P | [23:40] |
PinkPosixPXE | automatically | [23:40] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [23:40] |
ben_vulpes | PinkPosixPXE: is this for outbound ddossing? | [23:40] |
PinkPosixPXE | this ensure the vps won't be suspended, and just removes the target ipv6 ips | [23:40] |
PinkPosixPXE | until the attack stops | [23:40] |
PinkPosixPXE | it's a better solution for customers than 'container susspended again' | [23:41] |
PinkPosixPXE | suspended* | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | PinkPosixPXE how about write the script so that you keep track of foreign hosts, and once packet limit is reached for a vps all foreign hosts that aren't on the list of hosts it connected in the past 24 hours get banned across the entire network ? | [23:41] |
PinkPosixPXE | sorry, been migrating and snapshotting containers to this new server all day | [23:41] |
PinkPosixPXE | the attacks are all .cap'd and then the ip's are all reported to ovh to be added to ddos mitigation | [23:42] |
mircea_popescu | "oh, i see you're trying to connect to a vps that a) you've not connected before and b) is being attacked ? come back next week." | [23:42] |
PinkPosixPXE | and a null route is put in place as well | [23:42] |
PinkPosixPXE | but often times they are spoofed source ip's | [23:42] |
PinkPosixPXE | so that can sometimes be ineffective long term | [23:42] |
mircea_popescu | why is ovh allowing spoofs inside ? | [23:42] |
mircea_popescu | nm. ovh. | [23:42] |
PinkPosixPXE | ipv6 ddos attacks are just a pain all around | [23:42] |
PinkPosixPXE | it's a different beast | [23:43] |
PinkPosixPXE | this runs on the host node | [23:43] |
PinkPosixPXE | this way people can still get on their nodes, and are just informed that we've removed a few ipv6 addresses that were being attacked.. instead of their node being suspended and shut off, and they are then freaking out | [23:44] |
PinkPosixPXE | and before long the addresses come back up when the attack dies down | [23:44] |
PinkPosixPXE | anywho | [23:44] |
PinkPosixPXE | it is a band-aid until we can figure something better out | [23:44] |
PinkPosixPXE | but it saved our butts quite a bit over the last few weeks | [23:45] |
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PinkPosixPXE | and this isn't exactly how I'd setup vps hosting | [23:45] |
PinkPosixPXE | I have 3 vps' at a very large (Free) discount with this provider | [23:46] |
PinkPosixPXE | and root on the host node | [23:46] |
PinkPosixPXE | and made a migration script for us to migrate to the new node, helped him pick it out | [23:46] |
PinkPosixPXE | I'm learning how sloppy some of it is | [23:46] |
PinkPosixPXE | I will probably eventually buy a dedi that's a bit better than the our new one | [23:47] |
PinkPosixPXE | and split off my own vps services | [23:47] |
ben_vulpes | here's to dedis | [23:47] |
PinkPosixPXE | on my own host | [23:47] |
PinkPosixPXE | but that's down the road a month at least | [23:47] |
ben_vulpes | PinkPosixPXE: you launch a VPS service, take BTC (don't even denominate in BTC), and you've got custom right here. | [23:47] |
PinkPosixPXE | yea, I was thinking about that | [23:47] |
PinkPosixPXE | and I plan to offer BTC as payment | [23:48] |
PinkPosixPXE | as well as DDOS mitigation, and of course ipv6 | [23:48] |
PinkPosixPXE | now that I've helped run, and in some ways rescue this vps provider | [23:48] |
ben_vulpes | if you can afford to denominate in btc... | [23:49] |
ben_vulpes | gamechanger right there. | [23:49] |
PinkPosixPXE | and get the migrations streamlined to the new host | [23:49] |
PinkPosixPXE | I can see where I can put together a much better product | [23:49] |
kakobrekla | see what i told you, wife material right there. | [23:49] |
PinkPosixPXE | yea, after I wrote the vps migrate script for him today | [23:50] |
ben_vulpes | !s wife material | [23:50] |
PinkPosixPXE | after we migrated a few | [23:50] |
assbot | 1 results for 'wife material' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=wife+material | [23:50] |
PinkPosixPXE | and fixed about 10 issues he ran into within 5 minutes | [23:50] |
PinkPosixPXE | but mostly after the script | [23:50] |
PinkPosixPXE | he said he was going to force me to marry him one day | [23:50] |
PinkPosixPXE | and that it may be by gunpoint | [23:50] |
ben_vulpes | good thing you've got your own equalizer then huh | [23:50] |
PinkPosixPXE | yep haha | [23:51] |
PinkPosixPXE | I'm probably a better shot too :x | [23:51] |
BingoBoingo | That helps. | [23:51] |
PinkPosixPXE | ben_vulpes: I might need you (or some of you guys) as resources regarding I ensure I setup my bitcoin merchanting properly | [23:52] |
PinkPosixPXE | I've done some research | [23:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064049 = 2.1136 BTC [+] | [23:52] |
PinkPosixPXE | and know how to add it | [23:53] |
ben_vulpes | are you planning to convert directly to fiat? | [23:53] |
kakobrekla | he means if you gonna be a bitch! | [23:53] |
PinkPosixPXE | I will probably have a recurring tool that converst a portion of it to fiat | [23:53] |
PinkPosixPXE | converts* | [23:53] |
PinkPosixPXE | I wouldn't make it all fiat | [23:54] |
PinkPosixPXE | I'm not bailing on bitcoin | [23:54] |
PinkPosixPXE | recent drops don't scare me | [23:54] |
kakobrekla | its ok hon you can be honest here. :) | [23:54] |
PinkPosixPXE | in fact, I've been buying more as it's gone down | [23:54] |
PinkPosixPXE | it's the holidays.. | [23:54] |
ben_vulpes | PinkPosixPXE: the simplest and most robust approach is going to be to quote specific prices and have that exact qty remitted to an addr of your control | [23:55] |
ben_vulpes | use a btcd to watch incoming blocks for confirmations | [23:55] |
ben_vulpes | there's some bookkeeping to be done in terms of counters in the itty bitty satoshis, to avoid dup transaction amounts | [23:55] |
PinkPosixPXE | ok, that makes sense.. so basically I can keep the bitcoin price in flux with what the current price is | [23:55] |
PinkPosixPXE | BTC match up to current USD | [23:55] |
ben_vulpes | right | [23:55] |
PinkPosixPXE | or whatever currency | [23:55] |
ben_vulpes | that's your quoting logic | [23:56] |
PinkPosixPXE | yea, that shouldn't be too bad, sweet | [23:56] |
ben_vulpes | totally orthogonal to the accepting of bitcoin | [23:56] |
PinkPosixPXE | yea, I've noticed it where I shop using bitcoin quite a bit | [23:56] |
ben_vulpes | what you *don't* want to do is send each txn to seperate addrs. | [23:56] |
ben_vulpes | you could, ofc. | [23:56] |
ben_vulpes | there are clever things you could do with hashing the order and using that as a private key for receipts or something like that... | [23:57] |
ben_vulpes | but don't. | [23:57] |
PinkPosixPXE | ok, good to know | [23:57] |
PinkPosixPXE | yea, these were some of the things I was curious about | [23:57] |
ben_vulpes | don't depend on an external api to monitor the blockchain | [23:57] |
ben_vulpes | use bitcoin-rpc calls to watch for incoming blocks, scrape for txns to your addr | [23:58] |
ben_vulpes | and don't put the key anywhere near that bitcoind | [23:58] |
kakobrekla | wait whut is this no separate address bsns | [23:58] |
PinkPosixPXE | oh yea, api -> webapp -> blochain updates.. too slow | [23:58] |
PinkPosixPXE | that makes sense | [23:58] |
ben_vulpes | kakobrekla: do whatever you want, cartman | [23:58] |
ben_vulpes | you have a thing that works, congrats. | [23:58] |
kakobrekla | ?? | [23:59] |
ben_vulpes | http://bitbet.us ?? | [23:59] |
assbot | BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ie6Bdl ) | [23:59] |
kakobrekla | i dont understand y no unique address per order? | [23:59] |
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