Forum logs for 04 Aug 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2086 @ 0.00240022 = 5.0069 BTC [+] {3} [00:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 265 @ 0.00343625 = 0.9106 BTC [-] {4} [00:13]
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[]bot Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 44.13375572 BTC. Current weight: 24,787. [00:32]
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chetty http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051 [01:04]
assbot Ebola terror at Gatwick as passenger collapses and dies getting off Sierra Leone flight - Mirror Online [01:04]
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ben_vulpes i wonder if i'm far enough from the hubs. [01:09]
BigBitz Sounds a bit sudden for it to be Ebola, chetty. [01:10]
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kakobrekla whats with the nickspam [01:10]
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chetty well woman was 72 but yeah it still sounds fast [01:12]
neuroTip kakobrekla [01:13]
kakobrekla me! [01:13]
neuroTip sorry, im in another chatroom trying to troubleshoot a tipping bot [01:13]
kakobrekla a [01:13]
neuroTip i forget nick changes show up in every channel [01:13]
neuroTip im sorry [01:13]
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kakobrekla anyone using that bot? [01:14]
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neuroTip heh, its not for bitcoin, so yes [01:16]
kakobrekla for what is it then? [01:18]
kakobrekla make it work for atc [01:19]
kakobrekla mp will bribe you. [01:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 35 @ 0.26334285 = 9.217 BTC [+] {2} [01:24]
neuroTip atc? [01:25]
neuroTip its for myriadocin [01:25]
penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/08/03/democracy-vs-aristocracy/ [01:25]
neuroTip ##myriadcoin [01:25]
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kakobrekla yeah atc [01:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23447 @ 0.00085192 = 19.975 BTC [+] [01:43]
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mircea_popescu Sounds a bit sudden for it to be Ebola, chetty. << not if he had it for a while. [02:17]
mircea_popescu atc? << yes make it work for atc. [02:17]
mircea_popescu %d [02:19]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 453337.53 in 338 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -34.03 [02:19]
fluffypony whose blog is contravex? is it new? [02:19]
fluffypony oh it's Pete's [02:19]
mircea_popescu fluffypony bitcoinpete changed to pete_d [02:19]
fluffypony ;;later tell pete_dushenski nice blog name change, confused the fuck out of me for a few minutes :) [02:20]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:20]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/812/atc-to-reach-block-50000-on-time/ << it did 13k blocks in 100 days, got 20 more to do another... 8k ? ouch [02:20]
assbot BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time :: 2.5 B (26%) on Yes, 7.05 B (74%) on No | closed 1 week 23 hours ago [02:20]
cazalla danielpbarron, you might also try wickedfire.com rerolled.org genmay.com [02:20]
mircea_popescu cazalla you wanna get paid to blogpost ? [02:20]
mircea_popescu forumpost* [02:20]
cazalla how much [02:21]
mircea_popescu not much. [02:21]
cazalla i'd have to make new accounts as i get banned for shit posting so i lurk [02:22]
mircea_popescu sure. [02:22]
cazalla ok i'll do it, what exactly do you want done [02:22]
mircea_popescu you remember mpoe-pr ? [02:23]
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cazalla yup [02:24]
mircea_popescu basically, that. set people straight on the topic of bitcoin, and mention the relevant things [02:24]
mircea_popescu diss the irrelevant things. [02:24]
mircea_popescu make substantial, biting posts. [02:24]
mircea_popescu report your activity on sunday, get paid mondays. [02:24]
cazalla ok sounds good [02:26]
mircea_popescu aite. [02:26]
cazalla if you're not happy with the quality, we'll just agree to forget the whole thing eh? [02:27]
mircea_popescu yep. [02:27]
mircea_popescu don't worry too much, just be sensible and that'll be good enough. [02:27]
cazalla not that i'm worried, it'd be hard to match mpoe-pr, she was good [02:28]
mircea_popescu and in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ld8hTXVa1r0sr3uo1_400.gif [02:28]
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mircea_popescu o look just the man i wanted to see! [02:29]
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mike_c hello! [02:30]
mircea_popescu lettuce have wol reports so i can finish mpif too. [02:31]
mike_c k [02:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00085192 = 11.9269 BTC [+] [02:52]
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xanthyos Bet placed: .05 BTC for Yes on "Gene Wilder dies before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/hehehehehehehe idk lol. [03:05]
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danielpbarron if uou think it'll get action, submit it [03:09]
BingoBoingo %t [03:14]
BingoBoingo %ob [03:14]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 248 Last Price: 202 24h-Vol: 54k High: 204 Low: 202 VWAP: 203 [03:14]
atcbot 8k@260 17k@250 50@248 | 50k@203 88k@202 45k@201 [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17277 @ 0.00085169 = 14.7146 BTC [-] [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00085169 = 1.533 BTC [-] [03:21]
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cazalla that's a bet i wouldn't want to win [03:26]
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ben_vulpes https://github.com/returnString/DogeSharp [03:51]
assbot returnString/DogeSharp GitHub [03:51]
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ben_vulpes fearmongering aside, i am sad to see the glaciers go, and moderately concerned at the water story for my homezone: http://www.enn.com/ecosystems/article/3946 [03:57]
assbot Sustainable Ecosystems and Community News: The Mount Hood Meltdown [03:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00085078 = 10.8049 BTC [-] [04:14]
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thestringpuller i can't wait to move to setalle [04:36]
thestringpuller seattle [04:36]
thestringpuller where it is rainy all the time [04:36]
thestringpuller ;;ident [04:36]
gribble Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None [04:36]
thestringpuller interesting [04:36]
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ben_vulpes thestringpuller: why are you moving to seattle? [04:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00085126 = 8.3423 BTC [+] {3} [04:55]
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mike_c ben_vulpes: you looking for me before? [05:03]
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decimation http://falkenblog.blogspot.com/2014/07/pikettys-terrifying-dystopia_27.html << " It's always been popular to think, maybe we should have a jubilee, get rid of those ledgers and start again as equals! Given the power law distribution of wealth at all times such a proposal is perennially popular to those ignorant of history. Yet, if you do this every period, capital isn't owned by any individual, and so would be completely mismanaged [05:09]
assbot Falkenblog: Piketty's Terrifying Dystopia [05:09]
decimation as happens in societies without stable property rights. If you do this at all you can expect an immediately higher default premium which would make an economy undercapitalized." [05:09]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell princessnell http://trilema.com/2014/please-take-your-pills/ enjoy. [05:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00084801 = 5.5969 BTC [-] {2} [05:10]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:10]
assbot Please take your pills. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:10]
ben_vulpes mike_c: i'm just a little confused by the WoL game numbering convention. [05:11]
mike_c i have already been chastised. [05:11]
mike_c the numbering convention is: previous game + 1 [05:11]
mike_c but atc/btc interleave [05:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00084541 = 11.3285 BTC [-] [05:11]
ben_vulpes ah no also i was trying to munge some gribble commands together and lamenting the lack of your grib wisdom [05:11]
ben_vulpes absence [05:11]
mike_c the lack of my what? [05:12]
ben_vulpes ability to come up with precisely the gribble command i'm fumbling towards [05:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40350 @ 0.00084499 = 34.0953 BTC [-] {2} [05:15]
mike_c ah :) it's been a busy weekend. weddings and stuff. [05:16]
mike_c and i gotta run again. but i will be around tomorrow to help ;) [05:17]
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mircea_popescu have fun. [05:18]
mircea_popescu poor mike tableting from the middle of weeding party, everyone's naked fucking everyone else's wife... [05:18]
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mircea_popescu !up daibasen [05:23]
-assbot- You voiced daibasen for 30 minutes. [05:23]
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daibasen hi, I'm here lurking [05:23]
mircea_popescu enjoy! [05:27]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/please-take-your-pills/ [05:29]
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daibasen 'red piller' is supposed to be an insult? ha [05:46]
mircea_popescu in a hurricane anything can be lethal. [05:49]
mthreat sudafed pills are red. maybe that's all they took. [05:53]
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mircea_popescu they are ? [05:56]
mthreat http://identify-pills.com/?/DRUG//Sudogest%20Oral [05:58]
assbot Sudogest Oral usage [05:58]
mthreat another brand of pseudoephedrine [05:58]
mthreat here's the ones I was thinking of: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Package_of_Red_Sudafed_Pills.jpg [05:59]
assbot File:Package of Red Sudafed Pills.jpg - Wikimedia Commons [05:59]
mircea_popescu ah ok [05:59]
ben_vulpes pseudoephedrine. another thing my grand state protects me from. [05:59]
* mircea_popescu 's never taken any. [05:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.0008429 = 6.9961 BTC [-] {2} [06:04]
cazalla old enough to remember around 2000 the red pill was called ladder theory [06:05]
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ben_vulpes it's gone full-bore cancer since then methinks [06:21]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 30169 @ 0.00006671 = 2.0126 BTC [+] {14} [06:53]
mircea_popescu old enough to remember around 2000 the red pill was called ladder theory <<< . [06:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00007375 = 0.7375 BTC [+] {10} [06:54]
* asciilifeform remembers the 'ladder' essay. it was a more dour, 'dismal science' version of mocsny/PUA/whatever-it's-called-now material [06:54]
asciilifeform of the 'if yer phucked, yer phucked' flavour. [06:55]
mircea_popescu quite unamerican. [06:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00008396 = 0.8396 BTC [+] {4} [06:56]
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mircea_popescu http://www.laddertheory.com/ << it still exists btw. [06:56]
assbot The Ladder Theory [06:56]
cazalla mircea_popescu, it use to look much different and most of the discussion was on intellectualwhores.com, long dead [06:57]
* asciilifeform saw this alive [06:57]
mircea_popescu i have news for you. [06:58]
mircea_popescu intellectualwhores.com [06:58]
mircea_popescu Männer und Frauen – theoretisch platonisch [06:58]
mircea_popescu Der Mann und die Frau sind dazu verdammt, sich zu lieben oder nicht. [06:58]
* asciilifeform did once partake of the crud in great quantities, to no useful end [06:58]
cazalla mircea_popescu, probably a squatter [06:59]
mircea_popescu no adds, which'd be odd for squatting. [06:59]
mircea_popescu ". As far as intellectual whores can determine, the average female bitch has a rating system that works like this:." << look, the original reference is even preserved./ [07:00]
cazalla well perhaps a holdout who still practices ladder theory all these years later. it was a forum back in the day [07:00]
asciilifeform pray tell how does one 'practice' ladder theory. [07:01]
asciilifeform not unlike 'practicing' heat death of the universe [07:01]
cazalla asciilifeform, if you think i'm dumb now, you should've seen me at 19 parroting this shit [07:01]
asciilifeform cazalla: at that same age i tried mightily to find an engineering application of it [07:02]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform seems a simple preference scoring thing neh ? [07:02]
asciilifeform simple in that it succeeds in 'stretching the owl over the globe' and fitting observables to hypothesis [07:02]
asciilifeform not so simple re: 'wtf should poor wretch do' [07:03]
mircea_popescu "A woman's test is material. A man's test is a woman...if a man could fuck in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house." - Rabbi Dave Chappelle. [07:03]
mircea_popescu this is such bs. [07:03]
mircea_popescu so the first time i met this chick, about a decade ago, that had incidentally flown in on her own dime [07:03]
mircea_popescu i got a switch off a tree then marched her into a dark blind alley in the scary part of town, made her leave her clothes streetside, kneel there and swooshed her a few. [07:04]
mircea_popescu i have not subsequently inhabited said blind alley. [07:04]
asciilifeform so there we sat, contemplating how, generally, the bigger calibre of cannon, the louder the report. and mircea_popescu woke up, reminded us how he vapourized enemies with old trusted Nd:Yag laser. [07:06]
mircea_popescu http://www.laddertheory.com/images/mansladder1.jpg << is this how the "she's a 10" thing was born ? [07:06]
mircea_popescu i bet it is. [07:06]
asciilifeform in complete silence [07:06]
mircea_popescu silence's always the sign of the most dangerous cannon. [07:07]
asciilifeform most fuck in house [07:08]
asciilifeform fire loud cannon [07:08]
mircea_popescu im sure that's an experience that'll never be forgotten, incidentally. the sheer depravity of it. [07:08]
mircea_popescu nude among the garbage, teh pain, all that. it's a thing. [07:08]
mircea_popescu nfi why it should be such a big deal, but it undeniably is. [07:09]
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ben_vulpes once again i find myself confronted with stupid shit that shouldn't be a problem if the industry hadn't standardized on virtualized machines too small to host and serve their own images [07:12]
ben_vulpes fuck s3 [07:12]
ben_vulpes fuck ec2 [07:12]
ben_vulpes fuck rds [07:12]
ben_vulpes if your shit can't pay for a server beefy enough to serve itself and its assets get the fuck right out of my face [07:13]
ben_vulpes rarragrhargh cheapskate clients [07:13]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i don't think you understand. [07:14]
ben_vulpes yeah i'm clearly the retarded one here [07:14]
mircea_popescu this is the unlimited shared hosting v2.0 [07:14]
ben_vulpes it's just SO GREAT to not actually have to manage your own hardware! look! we even have a k/v store you can post shit to! [07:15]
ben_vulpes it's fucking awesome! [07:15]
ben_vulpes "sorry, you can't log to a bucket in a different region" [07:15]
ben_vulpes sorry. clearly something importnat was going on and i'm interrupting [07:15]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes what do you want them to do ? [07:16]
mircea_popescu servers are expensive. customers are cheap. [07:16]
ben_vulpes well nothing, duh. they have the stick here. [07:16]
ben_vulpes now i have to have a conversation with some people who are really sold on virtualization about how either i'm a retard or these layers of indirection are not worth the fucking cost. [07:16]
mircea_popescu no but even if you had it. [07:16]
mircea_popescu of course they aren't lol. [07:17]
ben_vulpes i burned days DAYS DAYSSSSSSS trying to get pre-signed URLs to work from java last month before giving up and hard coding AWS credentials into the deploy scripts [07:17]
mircea_popescu a) don't use java ; b) lol [07:18]
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ben_vulpes well, clojure. [07:20]
ben_vulpes but either the clojure api for s3 or the java lib underneath it have a bug in their pre-signed url implementations. [07:21]
ben_vulpes the point is sudo apt-get install redis [07:21]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00006605 = 1.321 BTC [-] {6} [07:22]
mircea_popescu hm [07:23]
ben_vulpes or yum. whatever. don't care. [07:25]
mircea_popescu "I invented a new type of gameI: DOOR GAME!" [07:27]
mircea_popescu the shit that's on my blog jesus [07:27]
ben_vulpes nfi why it should be such a big deal, but it undeniably is. << theatre hue [07:27]
mircea_popescu i suspect it's more in the line of "well what bad can happen to me now!" [07:28]
mircea_popescu armored in the styx as it were. [07:28]
ben_vulpes http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=225%2C000.00&year1=1994&year2=2014 [07:32]
assbot CPI Inflation Calculator [07:32]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c-7bWjQUKE << romanian old pop [07:32]
ben_vulpes and yet my parents house is appraised at 850k. [07:32]
assbot Andre - Prima Iubire (Official Music Video 2001) - YouTube [07:32]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/smg-july-2014-statement/ [07:43]
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wywialm morning, #bitcoin-assets [09:33]
BingoBoingo Morning [09:33]
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punkman1 http://www.tomhcanderson.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/textanalyticscartoon80.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuIPWbUIUAAKKAA.jpg [10:29]
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fluffypony EsteNuno: same EsteNuno as the one from BTCT? [10:29]
EsteNuno thanks, yes [10:29]
fluffypony *BTCTalk [10:30]
fluffypony ah cool cool [10:30]
fluffypony punkman1: lawlz [10:30]
fluffypony punkman1: you're Greek, right? [10:32]
punkman1 I got the card yeah [10:32]
fluffypony ok I have a language question [10:33]
fluffypony and you'll have to excuse my utter ignorance [10:34]
punkman1 sure [10:34]
fluffypony but Greek letters in words are individual letters as they are with English, right? [10:34]
punkman1 of course [10:34]
fluffypony ok cool [10:35]
fluffypony got to get someone to make a Greek wordlist, and wanted to make sure the rules we apply to the English one could be applied to Greek as well [10:35]
punkman1 are you making glutenfree text-analytics too? [10:36]
fluffypony no no no, we're making Words as a Service in the cloud [10:36]
fluffypony so we can synergise our mutual interdependencies [10:36]
punkman1 greek words are tricky [10:37]
fluffypony trixxy little wordses [10:37]
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mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [19:01]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:04]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 590.41, Best ask: 590.55, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 590.55, 24 hour volume: 3551.13147998, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 587.842223463 [19:04]
mircea_popescu this is liek teh largest battle of our times. [19:04]
ThickAsThieves you mean the congested price? [19:05]
mircea_popescu yeah. [19:05]
ThickAsThieves we're in between two very old trendlines [19:05]
ThickAsThieves itll have to resolve this month [19:06]
mircea_popescu the gambit being that if they manage to get bitcoin price to behave like gold price, bitcoin will essentially behave like gold [19:06]
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mircea_popescu and fail in its mission, even though it in principle could have succeeded,. much like gold had succeeded for a long long time. [19:06]
ThickAsThieves but gold is already "adopted" [19:07]
ThickAsThieves bitcoin would eat at that and grow [19:07]
mircea_popescu the beauty of this being that they aren't going to succeed, but letting them try is so god damned productive and enriching. [19:07]
ThickAsThieves “They always complain about regulation. That’s their job. Let’s look at the track record. Let’s look at the facts. Since I have come into office, there’s almost no economic metric by which you couldn’t say that the US economy is better and that corporate bottom lines are better. None." ~ o'bama [19:09]
ThickAsThieves rich! [19:09]
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justusranvier "Since I have come into office, there’s almost no economic metric by which you couldn’t say that the US economy is better and that corporate bottom lines are better, because we control the metrics and we make them say whatever we want" [19:11]
ThickAsThieves Guys I just got Excel! All my numbers are up! [19:12]
justusranvier Too many unemployed people? Stop counting the people who've given up completely. [19:12]
mircea_popescu justusranvier they *are* unemployed. [19:13]
mircea_popescu this isn't chomage, it's unemployment. puritan concept. [19:13]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lmao amusingly hruschev said the same. [19:13]
justusranvier Of course they are in reality, but the "official unemployment rate" doesn't include them. [19:13]
justusranvier Because telling the truth is inconvienient. [19:14]
mircea_popescu justusranvier sorry i just responded to teh last line. i see my error now :D [19:14]
mircea_popescu but anyway, hruscev said the same. soviet russia was in the slump of all time, the dude was derping about how "according to all indicators" [19:14]
justusranvier USA in 2010s = USSR in 1980s [19:15]
mike_c i have a gut feel about why you are right, but I'd love to hear you expound on it a bit. If nefarious forces are shoveling money at BTC to suppress price, why will this fail? bitcoin is currently small. you think they just won't be able to keep it up and eventually price will explode? [19:15]
mircea_popescu mike_c im writing it up. [19:15]
mike_c ah, good [19:15]
mircea_popescu just_mike nikky h died in 70 [19:15]
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justusranvier mike_c: What if Coinbase doesn't actually have all the Bitcoins their customers believe they have. They take in a great deal of USD, but how do we know they aren't operating on a fractional reserve? Until people stop leaving their coins in third-party custody, those kinds of price manipulation games are inevietable. [19:20]
asciilifeform http://berezin-fb.su/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE-%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%87%D1%88%D0%B5.jpg [19:20]
mike_c justusranvier: i don't believe coinbase has a vested interest in large scale price manipulation. investor-mania would be great for their customer acquisition. [19:21]
justusranvier I don't either, actually. But they are very interested in being bought out. Suppose the company gets purchased by a bank. What will the new owners be interested in doing with that huge pile of customer deposits? [19:22]
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mike_c bitcoin deposits? coinbase doesn't hold fiat. not sure a bank would know what to do with them. [19:23]
justusranvier I mean the bitcoin deposits [19:24]
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mircea_popescu anyone have handy that link to the log chart of us warplane cost ? [19:31]
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ThickAsThieves this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Augustine's_law.svg [19:34]
mircea_popescu yesty! [19:34]
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ThickAsThieves i saw this picture of a bunch of Canadian red/white maple leaf ATMs form Cavirtex, I wonder if maybe those stockholders from Havelock might get something something outta things in the end... [19:39]
ThickAsThieves http://thecoinfront.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cavirtex-bitcoin-atm-The-CoinFront-your-news-source-for-bitcoin-altcoin-digital-and-cryptocurrencies-793x400.jpg [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 936 @ 0.00257994 = 2.4148 BTC [+] {2} [19:44]
mircea_popescu ;;bids 1000 [19:50]
gribble Bitstamp | There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0287 seconds [19:50]
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mircea_popescu ;;buy 1000 [19:50]
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mircea_popescu ;;buys 1000 [19:50]
gribble Error: "buys" is not a valid command. [19:50]
mircea_popescu ;;ask 1000 [19:50]
gribble Error: "ask" is not a valid command. [19:50]
mircea_popescu o ffs [19:50]
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TomServo ;;asks 1000 [19:51]
gribble Bitstamp | There are currently 16281.08 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 11260010.2607 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.9684 seconds [19:51]
TomServo ? [19:51]
mircea_popescu i guess the old format went the way of mtgox huh ? [19:51]
mike_c ;;market buy 1000 [19:52]
gribble Bitstamp | A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 597548.5269 USD and would take the last price up to 598.8300 USD, resulting in an average price of 597.5485 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 100.1576 seconds [19:52]
mircea_popescu o ty. [19:52]
mircea_popescu ;;market buy 10000 [19:52]
gribble Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 6302846.6123 USD and would take the last price up to 665.0500 USD, resulting in an average price of 630.2847 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 118.0073 seconds [19:52]
mircea_popescu ;;market buy 500000 [19:54]
gribble Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 18670.792 bitcoins, for a total of 18722522.1011 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 0.0322 seconds [19:54]
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mike_c ;;market baratio [19:55]
gribble Bitstamp | Total bids: 8580122 USD. Total asks: 18670 BTC. Ratio: 459.54787 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 75.6874 seconds [19:55]
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mircea_popescu mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/lets-pretend/ [20:12]
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assbot Let’s pretend… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:12]
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mike_c ah, that makes sense. thanks. the key difference being that they can fuck with the gold price on a larger scale by "printing" gold. and this is what justusranvier was saying about coinbase, that maybe they are printing bitcoin. [20:28]
mircea_popescu he pretty much got it, yes. he's a smart cookie. [20:29]
mircea_popescu but anyway, they can't really print b itcoin unless someone lets them. [20:29]
mircea_popescu which is really a very precarious base. [20:30]
mike_c yeah. like right now germany is mad about the US printing gold, but can't do much about it. [20:30]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/lets-pretend/ [20:30]
mircea_popescu well inasmuch as they fell for a scam, neiher could the coinbase customers [20:30]
mircea_popescu however, it WOULD be marked as a scam. [20:30]
mircea_popescu random person with a coinbase wallet doesn't have all the other wires tied on germany has. [20:30]
mike_c but germany (or other powerful entity) wouldn't get their bitcoin from coinbase, so this scam doesn't work for BTC. [20:31]
mircea_popescu and by powerfull we mean in this context.. pretend powerful. [20:31]
mircea_popescu "take a walk around me. go ahead. found anything ?" [20:31]
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* asciilifeform curses 'ebay' with strongest voodoo. [20:37]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell pete_dushenski but we're losing our voices over here << leave it to the professionals :D :D :D :D [20:37]
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* asciilifeform buys a nice little cnc vertical milling machine - next day, ebay account of vendor (in as far as can be told, reputable, old;) is cancelled. no recourse. [20:37]
mircea_popescu no refund ? [20:38]
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mike_c call bitcoin and initiate a chargeback. [20:38]
asciilifeform possibly refund one day, if paypal feels like it [20:38]
mircea_popescu heh. [20:38]
asciilifeform 500 usd sacrificed to the spamg0dz [20:39]
mike_c who would have thought spammers were selling milling machines? [20:39]
asciilifeform mike_c: nope. the spammers sell payment mechanisms and run auction sites... [20:39]
mike_c heh. true. [20:39]
asciilifeform the junkyard man will never see the 500 either. [20:40]
mircea_popescu odd tho. [20:40]
ThickAsThieves ;;market buy 30000 [20:40]
gribble Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 18913.613 bitcoins, for a total of 18863721.0835 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 0.0235 seconds [20:40]
asciilifeform small change for the fraud machine, though. why didn't they cancel the account of some fellow selling a truck, or a jet engine [20:41]
BigBitz small market is small ThickAsThieves. [20:41]
mike_c ;;market obip 10000 [20:42]
gribble Bitstamp | The weighted average price of BTC, 10000.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 581.65632 USD. | Data vintage: 84.6930 seconds [20:42]
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ben_vulpes i saw this picture of a bunch of Canadian red/white maple leaf ATMs form Cavirtex, I wonder if maybe those stockholders from Havelock might get something something outta things in the end... << a) cavirtex is desperate for profit b) doubtful havelock holders are going to get anything as they've been delisted, right? [20:42]
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ThickAsThieves well you could claim your HL shares IRL [20:44]
ThickAsThieves they didnt just delete them [20:44]
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ben_vulpes somehow i suspect david joseph thinks that money is his and he'll be extremely reluctant to let any of it slip his grasp. [20:45]
ben_vulpes this is the man who's trying to leverage himself into the role of canadian bitcoin regulator, after all. [20:45]
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justusranvier What's Joseph David up to this time? He's the primary reason I originally started a blog. http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2013/06/27/i-love-the-smell-of-crony-capitalism-in-the-morning/ [20:48]
assbot I Love the Smell of Crony Capitalism in the Morning [20:48]
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ben_vulpes that's what all the ETFs are about as well, aren't they. [20:48]
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ben_vulpes i had no idea. [20:49]
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asciilifeform in other news - got the 500 back. but, wanted the widget, not the 500... [20:51]
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mike_c that was quick. they must read the logs. [20:57]
asciilifeform lol [20:58]
BigBitz !up joesmoe [20:59]
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joesmoe hello world [21:04]
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mike_c hello joe. [21:08]
fluffypony joesmoe! [21:09]
joesmoe heya [21:11]
joesmoe how's it going fluffypony [21:11]
fluffypony joesmoe: not too bad, your side? [21:11]
joesmoe pretty good, launching some more ATMs in the very near future. [21:12]
kakobrekla got any atm usage stats [21:13]
fluffypony neato [21:14]
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ThickAsThieves http://genomebiology.com/2014/15/7/424 [22:04]
assbot Genome Biology | Full text | The Kardashian index: a measure of discrepant social media profile for scientists [22:04]
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punkman http://business.financialpost.com/2014/07/21/sino-forest-cfo-fined-700000-and-banned-from-boards-in-settlement-with-ontario-securities-commission/ [22:30]
assbot Sino-Forest CFO fined $700,000 and banned from boards in settlement with Ontario Securities Commission | Financial Post [22:30]
punkman cheap [22:31]
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ben_vulpes http://www.muddywatersresearch.com/track-record/ << bitcoin scams don't even register. NASDAQ $23 -> $1.7 [22:33]
assbot Track Record | Muddy Waters Research [22:33]
punkman "An 8-month, $50 million investigation into MW’s allegations by TRE’s board of directors was inconclusive, largely because senior management lied to investigators, who were not able to verify a majority of the company’s timber assets." [22:35]
punkman lol [22:35]
ThickAsThieves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXOucXB4a8 [22:36]
assbot The Visual Microphone: Passive Recovery of Sound from Video - YouTube [22:36]
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los_pantalones http://phys.org/news/2014-08-algorithm-recovers-speech-vibrations-potato-chip.html [22:46]
assbot Algorithm recovers speech from vibrations of potato-chip bag filmed through soundproof glass [22:46]
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ben_vulpes spycraft's included putting a laser beam against a window and backing sound waves out of that for a while now. [22:50]
los_pantalones yes, ty for reading before commenting [22:53]
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penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/trezor/ [23:09]
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ben_vulpes http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/08/laughter-can-heal.html "borderline pedophilic academics...sleeping with their students" << oh i see sub .8*$YOUR_AGE is now pedophilic. mhm. [23:16]
assbot ClubOrlov: Laughter can heal [23:16]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: note that it was a guest article [23:17]
asciilifeform good example of the sort of people orlov associates with... [23:17]
ben_vulpes i did note. [23:17]
ben_vulpes "Where in the world (outside of Taliban-controlled parts of Afghanistan) do fifty-year old men routinely get to mate with twenty-year-old women? " oh gosh [23:18]
asciilifeform arguably that piece is the female mirror image of the 'incel' material. [23:18]
asciilifeform 'oh noez, the rich grey men want to fuck beautiful women, Something Must Be Done' [23:18]
ben_vulpes "Other older men simply admit they can’t get it off with their own saggy, wrinkly peers. (This, by the way, is simply nature's way of telling them that it's time to stop breeding)." [23:19]
ben_vulpes sounds apt to me, asciilifeform [23:19]
ben_vulpes this whole article is an exercise in convincing the writer that her lifestyle is right and good and that the rest of the world is Doing It Incorrectly. [23:20]
ben_vulpes honey if the rest of the world disagrees, who the fuck are you again? [23:21]
ben_vulpes *sigh* okay apache ain't gon configure itself [23:21]
mike_c nginx does. and makes dinner. [23:21]
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ThickAsThieves my name in Dota 2 is Bitcoin-Assets and I killed an opponent named Doge [23:24]
ben_vulpes lol mike zing and logoff [23:24]
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ben_vulpes ThickAsThieves: baller [23:25]
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ben_vulpes dolar blue actually fell last week? [23:48]
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ben_vulpes http://zenarchery.com/2014/08/everyone-i-know-is-brokenhearted/ << americans are starting to wake up, i think. [23:59]
assbot Everyone I know is brokenhearted. | Zenarchery [23:59]
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