Forum logs for 03 Jun 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [15:37]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard. [15:37]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013 [15:37]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [15:37]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.00001, Best ask: 117.17689, Bid-ask spread: 0.17688, Last trade: 117.17689, 24 hour volume: 51045.44233672, 24 hour low: 115.00000, 24 hour high: 123.23187, 24 hour vwap: 118.17462 [15:37]
ThickAsThieves mp, looks like mpex is done for, some guy is manually selling options on the forum using ripple [15:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1098 = 0.549 BTC [-] [15:40]
ThickAsThieves was nice knowing you [15:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.1099 = 1.6485 BTC [+] [15:40]
mircea_popescu lol ty. [15:40]
ThickAsThieves :) [15:40]
mircea_popescu you know how many peeps have been selling options since 2011 ? [15:40]
mircea_popescu for that matter,y ou knwo some guy made a straight clone last year ? [15:41]
ThickAsThieves heh [15:41]
mircea_popescu i mean literally, exact same design. and then PRETENDED HE DIDN'T CLONE IT [15:41]
ThickAsThieves he couldve at least owned it [15:41]
mircea_popescu and then he had a team of experts [15:42]
ThickAsThieves dont we all? [15:42]
mircea_popescu and then he was going to take over [15:42]
ThickAsThieves my team is cranking away right behind me [15:42]
mircea_popescu and then wasn't heard from again [15:42]
ThickAsThieves a team of cats [15:42]
mircea_popescu and i can't even remember his name or anything [15:42]
mircea_popescu lol a herd of milk cats. for to make cheshire cheez. [15:42]
ThickAsThieves hehe [15:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072016 = 3.1118 BTC [+] [15:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13329 @ 0.0007201 = 9.5982 BTC [-] [15:46]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.02489 = 3.7335 BTC [+] [15:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2335 = 0.467 BTC [-] [15:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.2335 = 1.868 BTC [-] [15:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.08 = 1.2 BTC [-] [16:00]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-may-2013-statement/ [16:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.0007201 = 12.4937 BTC [-] [16:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 600 @ 0.00149999 = 0.9 BTC [-] [16:03]
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ThickAsThieves mp, random idea/question, why not convert mpoe into a merge with your 30btc mpex seats to form a board as one tradable asset [16:13]
ThickAsThieves allowing people to sell their mpex seats [16:13]
ThickAsThieves but tying dividends to those seats [16:13]
ThickAsThieves instead of mpoe [16:13]
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ThickAsThieves you could then make a cut on the trade of bot "mpoe" and mpex seats [16:14]
ThickAsThieves both* [16:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00072048 = 2.1614 BTC [+] [16:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 49 @ 0.0029 = 0.1421 BTC [+] [16:14]
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ThickAsThieves ties everything into one (i think) elegant setup [16:15]
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mircea_popescu because there is absolutely no relation between the two concepts ? [16:16]
ThickAsThieves i'm saying to make one [16:16]
ThickAsThieves i didnt fully bake the idea or anything [16:17]
mircea_popescu but this isn't how it works. you don't abstractly create relations between unrelated in fact items [16:17]
ThickAsThieves but i think there's a concept in there somewhere [16:17]
mircea_popescu what if i went down the street, picked two women and went [16:17]
mircea_popescu "hey, you two. you're now married. eat each other out!" [16:17]
ThickAsThieves i'm just theorizing that their may be a way to make mpex seats tradable [16:17]
ThickAsThieves not offering a total solution [16:18]
ThickAsThieves just ideas [16:18]
__blasty women eating each other out, I'm all ears [16:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2335 = 0.467 BTC [-] [16:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00072142 = 8.4406 BTC [+] [16:20]
mjr_ the key issue, is that the "seat" is just a private key...as we know with bitcoins, how do you sell a private key? [16:21]
deadweasel 'the key issue' [16:21]
mjr_ no matter what, there is no way to guarantee that there isn't another copy [16:21]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223665 [16:21]
mircea_popescu ahahaha dude this is the best lolgold [16:22]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224057.0 [16:29]
mircea_popescu death and taxes out of business. [16:29]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves hey, did you mean the vobyrov dude ? [16:32]
jurov yes, him [16:33]
jurov it even started funny philosophical debate between me and goat [16:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.02488 = 0.2737 BTC [+] [16:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024888 = 0.1244 BTC [+] [16:35]
ThickAsThieves ThickAsThieves hey, did you mean the vobyrov dude ? <<< yessir [16:35]
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mircea_popescu a, i recall he was bitching about mpoe last summer. [16:35]
mircea_popescu "how can you make a loss with those spreads !!11" and other amateruness. [16:35]
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ThickAsThieves you'd think if he was serious he'd make a real engine [16:36]
ThickAsThieves even if i was interested in what he's selling [16:36]
ThickAsThieves i don't wanna deal over a forum [16:36]
ThickAsThieves nor over ripple [16:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0249 = 0.6225 BTC [+] [16:36]
mircea_popescu ya well. [16:36]
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jurov he would sell me C130T equivalent that breaks even at 142. clearly loss is not conceivable. [16:37]
mircea_popescu the end of dt is a lot more important news tbh. pretty soon the us will be cut off from btc completely. [16:37]
mircea_popescu jurov clearly. [16:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.47345 BTC [-] [16:39]
ThickAsThieves i think US just wants all the dataz [16:39]
ThickAsThieves as long as every tx goes through ACH [16:39]
ThickAsThieves or is under AML/KYC [16:39]
ThickAsThieves and under a MSB [16:39]
ThickAsThieves then you're fine! [16:39]
mircea_popescu heh. [16:41]
mircea_popescu this latest event is clear proof this ain't the case. the guy was meticulously keeping track of customers. [16:41]
mircea_popescu which is why this is important : proof that no, they don't just want the data. [16:42]
ThickAsThieves but he is unlicensed no? [16:42]
mircea_popescu no. [16:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0249 = 0.0996 BTC [+] [16:42]
ThickAsThieves and it was a state that stopped him [16:42]
ThickAsThieves not the fed [16:42]
mircea_popescu from what i gather (may be wrong) [16:42]
mircea_popescu he got the fincen reg and was in the process of licensing [16:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02481 BTC [-] [16:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.474 BTC [+] [16:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4749 BTC [+] [16:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [+] [16:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [+] [16:45]
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mircea_popescu http://labs.ft.com/2013/05/a-sobering-day/ [16:47]
mircea_popescu pretty good read re phishing [16:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01822 = 0.1822 BTC [+] [16:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 87 @ 0.02489 = 2.1654 BTC [-] [16:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.679799 BTC [+] [16:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.6798 = 1.3596 BTC [+] [16:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.67995 = 6.1196 BTC [+] [16:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 26 @ 0.67999 = 17.6797 BTC [+] [16:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 45 @ 0.68 = 30.6 BTC [+] [16:54]
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KRS1 Great article Mircea Popescu. Thanks. I have forwarded this on to management in the corporate levels for the company I work for. [17:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02489 = 0.0747 BTC [-] [17:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.02489 = 0.4231 BTC [-] [17:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [-] [17:03]
KRS1 Yeah I send spam but I'm often thanked for it. I'm a sysadmin 14+ yrs..I touch everything from web servers to SAN's and switches, virtualization, I.T. security. [17:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02489 BTC [-] [17:05]
KRS1 only the good stuff though [17:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00072206 = 1.769 BTC [+] [17:06]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00257 = 0.0051 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.670001 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [-] [17:12]
jurov ;;next [17:12]
gribble retracement targets: 125-127 | #bitcoin [Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:33:08 +0000] | tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/139er6E | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle | updated by OneFixt | 20 hours, 39 minutes, and 13 seconds ago [17:12]
ThickAsThieves at first i though OneFixt wasn't worth following, but he's turning out to be pretty good at this [17:13]
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ThickAsThieves all boxes ticked [17:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [-] [17:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 23 @ 0.015602 = 0.3588 BTC [-] [17:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.015601 = 1.5601 BTC [-] [17:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01556 BTC [-] [17:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0155 = 0.062 BTC [-] [17:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.015005 = 1.5005 BTC [-] [17:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.015 = 0.6 BTC [-] [17:17]
KRS1 Chaang-Noi: you said it bro..I'd rather go to hell.. oh wait I'm already there. [17:22]
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mircea_popescu KRS1 fwiw i don't buy his entire "had the tab open must have acciodentally typed in" theory. [17:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.008766 = 0.0877 BTC [+] [17:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 16 @ 0.000706 = 0.0113 BTC [+] [17:39]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4749 BTC [-] [17:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.02481 = 1.0172 BTC [-] [17:44]
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deadweasel Make me sad, I loved getting checks in the mail for BTC sales.. felt so good. [17:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [+] [17:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [+] [17:50]
deadweasel If anyone can beat this it's TC [17:50]
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mircea_popescu realistically i don't imagine he can justify the costs of so doing. [17:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.66 = 5.28 BTC [-] [17:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.687899 BTC [+] [17:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.6879 BTC [+] [17:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.689 = 2.756 BTC [+] [17:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02487 = 0.1492 BTC [-] [17:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00072142 = 3.3185 BTC [-] [17:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9321 @ 0.0007201 = 6.7121 BTC [-] [17:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00071963 = 0.6685 BTC [-] [17:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00072206 = 4.0796 BTC [+] [17:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00072261 = 2.4569 BTC [+] [17:55]
deadweasel depends on that cost, I don't think it's been discovered yet. Historically it's probably too high to pursue. [17:57]
deadweasel wish we could help. [17:57]
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saulimus could someone with an account at coinlenders perhaps tell me what the rates are like there? [17:59]
ThickAsThieves they have a page [18:00]
ThickAsThieves that spells it out [18:00]
saulimus hmm, I didn't find it [18:00]
ThickAsThieves https://www.coinlenders.com/interest [18:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12892 @ 0.00071963 = 9.2775 BTC [-] [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3002 @ 0.00071866 = 2.1574 BTC [-] [18:01]
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saulimus I was thinking of borrowing, not depositing money to gain interest.. [18:04]
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ThickAsThieves ah [18:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.024686 = 0.3209 BTC [-] [18:04]
ThickAsThieves probly gives you a good idea tho [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024686 = 0.0741 BTC [-] [18:05]
thestringpuller are we still talking about TC? [18:05]
thestringpuller The US government is being a poopoo. [18:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.02451 = 0.3186 BTC [-] [18:06]
saulimus just noticed btcjam doesn't show APR for the listings, annoying. [18:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.456101 BTC [-] [18:08]
ericmuys_ nice, your IPO is almost finished eh TAT 8-) [18:09]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: You were right again about the magical bureaucrat yet again... [18:09]
thestringpuller I can't get out of this country fast enough... [18:10]
mircea_popescu saulimus afaik it is not open to borrow, it's just tradefortress' private bond. [18:10]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: do you have a list of countries that view BTC in the same way as romania. As smickles once said: "WoW money". [18:11]
mircea_popescu not rly. [18:11]
thestringpuller if I compose one would you help edit/publish? [18:12]
mircea_popescu but as a general rule of thumb, if they don't speak english they probably don't have the english brain rot either. [18:12]
mircea_popescu sounds like a difficult thing, you're not a lawyer. how'd you compose one ? [18:12]
thestringpuller Good point. That's why I said "edit" perhaps you can help get more motion behind it. Maybe call it a "safe countries list". [18:13]
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mircea_popescu this is niot how it works. they who are worth millions hire a consultant. those who aren't worth millions pray. [18:15]
thestringpuller I was one told consultants are people you hire to steal your watch to tell you what time it is... [18:17]
thestringpuller once* [18:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 2.475 = 47.025 BTC [+] [18:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.476 BTC [+] [18:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02487 BTC [+] [18:18]
deadweasel Chaang-Noi, seems pretty cut and dry, they only buy BTC.... glad you think they will too. [18:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 2.456103 = 17.1927 BTC [-] [18:19]
* deadweasel offers time telling service for .01 btc per day. [18:19]
thestringpuller Chaang-Noi: Is it super illegal to smoke pot in Thailand like Vietnam? [18:19]
thestringpuller My friend said the pot posession in Vietnam is a capital offense. [18:19]
KRS1 jeezus [18:19]
thestringpuller He also said there was a white people tax. [18:20]
deadweasel cracker tax, I like it [18:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.477 = 24.77 BTC [+] [18:20]
thestringpuller ah [18:20]
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ThickAsThieves i always thought bought would be a decent addition to any spice rack [18:21]
ThickAsThieves pot [18:21]
thestringpuller My friend was living in Vietnam with his then gf, and some people saw him go into her relative's house, and the police came and said, "Give us 50 dollars for having a white person in your house." [18:21]
ThickAsThieves not bought :/ [18:21]
KRS1 In a country most notable for tourism and you cant smoke out..i'll have to remember not to vacaction there, regardless of what I heard about the picturesuqe sunrises. [18:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [-] [18:22]
deadweasel In fact, you can survive without pot for long periods of time. [18:22]
deadweasel little known fact [18:22]
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ThickAsThieves i dont think any of us are potheads [18:23]
ThickAsThieves well [18:23]
ThickAsThieves i'm probly wrong [18:23]
thestringpuller deadweasel: tell that to Amanda Bynes [18:23]
deadweasel ;;google amanda bynes [18:23]
gribble Amanda Bynes (AmandaBynes) on Twitter: ; Amanda Bynes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Amanda Bynes - IMDb: [18:23]
thestringpuller she still has a twitter after all her cray cray-ness? [18:24]
deadweasel it's the first time I've heard the name. [18:24]
deadweasel did she die from an acute lack of marihuana? [18:25]
fiat500 lmao [18:25]
Scrat used marijuana needles [18:25]
mircea_popescu the government of President Bashar Assad took the trouble on Sunday to warn its citizens against travel to neighboring Turkey on the grounds it might not be safe there. [18:26]
thestringpuller HAHAHA [18:26]
mircea_popescu this rules lmao [18:26]
fiat500 lmfao yeah [18:26]
fiat500 quite the illusion he is living in [18:26]
thestringpuller What rules about it mircea_popescu ? [18:27]
Scrat http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldnhhndEXD1qd4crbo1_500.jpg [18:27]
Scrat be careful kids [18:27]
fiat500 mircea_popescu: i saw a video of ceaucescu's trial and execution yesterday, very poignant [18:27]
thestringpuller deadweasel: Amanda Bynes was a very successful child actress who has joined the list of child actors who go trippin' [18:27]
fiat500 romania is not to be trifled with [18:27]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0248 = 0.0992 BTC [+] [18:28]
thestringpuller window 10 [18:28]
thestringpuller ugh [18:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00072156 = 11.2563 BTC [+] [18:29]
mircea_popescu fiat500 if you can read romanian, [18:29]
mircea_popescu ;;google procesul ceausescu [18:29]
gribble Transcript of the closed trial of Nicolae and Elena Ceauşescu ...: ; Stenograma procesului Ceaușescu - Wikisource: ; Destinul principalilor participanţi la procesul soţilor Ceauşescu ...: (1 more message) [18:29]
mircea_popescu o hey, i fell off. [18:29]
mircea_popescu ;;google procesul ceausescu trilema [18:29]
gribble Henry Kissinger implicat in recuperarea evreilor din Romania - Alex ...: [18:29]
mircea_popescu uh. [18:29]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/procesul-ceausescu/ [18:30]
fiat500 mircea_popescu: google translate does a miserable job of translating this [18:31]
mircea_popescu it would. [18:31]
mircea_popescu it's an in depth discussion of the trial. [18:31]
mircea_popescu the legal arguments presented, etc. [18:32]
fiat500 interesting, ill try to wade through the translation [18:32]
* fiat500 is a bit of an amateur historian [18:32]
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fiat500 "The problems are two: the first problem is not the law of incitement speech, the text expresses itself by committing deeds, and therefore not clear to what extent can he be held responsible Ceausescu genocide, unless he with mine His murder, damaged, subjected etc. The thing is of course open to dispute in court, Prax do not exist, so there will undoubtedly fit hot debate." [18:34]
fiat500 lol [18:35]
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fiat500 i think i get the gist of that, but man does google have a long way to go [18:36]
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mircea_popescu lol [18:36]
mircea_popescu for the sake of lulz quote the original i'll translate properly. [18:37]
fiat500 Problemele sunt doua : prima problema, ca nu se face vorbire in lege de instigare, textul glasuieste de savirsirea unor fapte, si ca atare nu-i clar in ce masura Ceausescu poate fi el tinut responsabil de genocid, afara de cazul ca el cu mina lui a omorit, vatamat, supus etc. [18:37]
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thestringpuller !last btctc bitvps [18:38]
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fiat500 i found this pretty funny too [18:39]
fiat500 "How will grab our state, created from hands, hopes and thoughts of guys hardly qualified secretarial and kitchen?" [18:39]
mircea_popescu there's two problems with that. the first, that the law does not speak of instigation, it speaks of doing, and as such it's not clear how can you hold C responsible for genocide, except in the case you can show he himself killed, hurt, imposed etc. [18:40]
fiat500 interesting corollary to the mubarak trial in egypt [18:42]
fiat500 and of course milosovic [18:42]
mircea_popescu indeed. [18:42]
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fiat500 mircea_popescu: it was a show-trial basically, i dont even think they tried to hide that fact [18:57]
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mircea_popescu indeed. [19:02]
mircea_popescu very comical one, if you understand the language and law [19:02]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-smg-the-ministry-of-games/ [19:03]
mircea_popescu big deal announcement. [19:03]
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ThickAsThieves when does it launch? [19:07]
ThickAsThieves oic i think [19:07]
mircea_popescu actual mpex contract later today, actual ipo closes on the 10th [19:09]
topace_ game development? do you have a portfolio of games developed already? [19:11]
ThickAsThieves he plays them all the time, isnt that enough? [19:12]
ericmuys_ topace_: if there's anything I'm sure of, mircea_popescu created cat mario - www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksFy5qbwwM [19:12]
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mircea_popescu topace_ nope. [19:21]
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deadweasel what brought on this game dev ipo? Where can we read about the companies under this umbrella? Any games out yet? [19:35]
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deadweasel is there a better question I could be asking? [19:40]
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deadweasel usagi, no idea what you're talking about, totally don't care. but how is the silver biz? [19:43]
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deadweasel i thought that for a split second, but when I didn't get it, I was sure it was just trollin ;) [19:45]
mircea_popescu deadweasel hehe, first things first. ipo, the nwe see what btc is gathered together. [19:45]
deadweasel seems backwards [19:46]
mircea_popescu but anyway, bitcoin is basically game currency. that's what it's for. [19:46]
deadweasel mircea_popescu, of course, it was Magic currency first, but now it's something else. What would the utility be of the Game IPO? Where does the product come into play? [19:47]
mircea_popescu step 1. some people decide on a problem to solve ; step 2. those people come up with a way to do it and calculate resouerces needed ; step 3. those people gather the needed resources. [19:48]
mircea_popescu asking me about "is the problem already solved" presumes we're past step 3 [19:48]
deadweasel I see. I think understand the status of this IPO. [19:49]
mircea_popescu as the article says, unlike all the other mpex ipos, which were sale by owner of established product, this is new biz. [19:50]
peterl link to article? [19:51]
deadweasel I did like the traditional IPO offering piece. That's all great stuff, I just want to fondle whatever it is that is worth investing in. [19:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 16 @ 0.00105001 = 0.0168 BTC [-] [19:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2284 @ 0.0008501 = 1.9416 BTC [-] [19:52]
deadweasel but since it's new biz, that part cannot yet be fondled. [19:52]
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mircea_popescu peterl http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-smg-the-ministry-of-games/ [19:54]
mircea_popescu deadweasel the two are not distinct however. you can just wait out the ipo, see if any value arises and then buy in lateer [19:54]
mircea_popescu of course it would by definition be for more per share, but nothing wrong with that in principle. [19:54]
kakobrekla uh what happend here https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/ [19:57]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224057.20 [19:57]
eyetalian hello when are the SBET earnings/dividends released? [19:57]
mircea_popescu that. [19:57]
mircea_popescu eyetalian http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-may-2013-statement/ announced there [19:57]
kakobrekla oh yes ill be signing it shortly [19:58]
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deadweasel mircea_popescu, I'll watch for now, but I'm glad to see some new IPOs emerging. [20:11]
deadweasel especially as price is somewhat stable. [20:11]
mircea_popescu yeah. [20:11]
furuknap And who will be the first to issue a PT? :-) [20:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 28 @ 0.006881 = 0.1927 BTC [-] [20:19]
deadweasel TAT, obviously. [20:19]
mircea_popescu lol [20:19]
deadweasel I'm going to sell my dead grandmother in a TAT-PT [20:19]
deadweasel box and all [20:19]
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mircea_popescu http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MusicIsPolitics [20:37]
mircea_popescu for all our rapper friends :D [20:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02465 = 0.0986 BTC [-] [20:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.02465 = 0.4191 BTC [-] [20:43]
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ThickAsThieves Did somebody say PT? [20:46]
ThickAsThieves :) [20:46]
furuknap Yeah, MP is putting up a new asset, and I just can bring myself to doing all that PGP stuff to trade. [20:47]
deadweasel yes, I'd like to offer up DEAD.GMA shares [20:47]
deadweasel I'm offering 1 billion pieces of my dead grandmother, each for .01 BTC. [20:48]
mircea_popescu how's she generating revenue ? [20:48]
mircea_popescu furuknap iirc you can use coinbr [20:48]
furuknap MP, I know, but it would only be for this; the other assets have PTs already. [20:49]
furuknap *the other assets _I trade_ [20:50]
ThickAsThieves maybe i'll call it TAT.MASTER [20:50]
ThickAsThieves but really, [20:50]
ThickAsThieves a PT would be tough [20:50]
ThickAsThieves everyone wants divs [20:50]
deadweasel mircea_popescu, this is a traditional IPO, we will decide revenue generators later. [20:50]
deadweasel ;) [20:50]
mircea_popescu hahaha i see [20:51]
ThickAsThieves and i assume this asset won't see any divs for quite a while [20:51]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yearly, if at all. [20:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.0007183 = 5.6746 BTC [-] [20:52]
deadweasel every six months her total mass is reduced, thus your shares become more valuable, as the total is reduced. [20:52]
deadweasel so no divs [20:52]
ThickAsThieves the amatuer mining professional wouldnt stand for that [20:52]
ThickAsThieves as a PT [20:52]
ThickAsThieves ammortalization [20:53]
furuknap :-) [20:53]
deadweasel lol [20:53]
deadweasel nice [20:53]
ThickAsThieves :) [20:53]
ThickAsThieves amortalization* [20:53]
mircea_popescu amateur professional lol. nice. [20:53]
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imsaguy how's she generating revenue ? << ever heard the term 'find a fold and...'? [20:54]
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mircea_popescu i have not. [20:54]
mircea_popescu what is it? [20:55]
-imsaguy- typically said about the larger girls.. find a fold and f it. [20:55]
mircea_popescu i am 12. [20:55]
imsaguy what is this? [20:55]
mircea_popescu yes this is dog. [20:55]
mircea_popescu (fwiw, the romanian expression is "you can only fuck her after you roll her in flour and find the wet spot") [20:56]
deadweasel imsaguy, if you purchase enough DEAD.GMA shares you will have voting rights on which fold will be appropriated. [20:56]
mircea_popescu what if it farts ? [20:57]
deadweasel then you have chosen your fold poorly. [20:57]
deadweasel choose again. [20:57]
deadweasel she's not picky. [20:58]
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deadweasel anymore [20:58]
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imsaguy Im pretty certain that once dead, they all fart [21:02]
deadweasel it's a feature [21:02]
deadweasel not a defect [21:02]
mircea_popescu well the only way forward is for you to present this at the upcoming "first" coinsomething conference [21:03]
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ThickAsThieves how many fans will she have? [21:04]
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deadweasel liking her on facebook requires owning DEAD.GMA-PT shares [21:06]
deadweasel and the number will be in tens of twelves [21:07]
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imsaguy deadweasel, it'd probably be easier to use tonal numbers [21:12]
mircea_popescu tonal, oldest injoke in btc ? [21:12]
imsaguy if by in, you mean lame, yes [21:13]
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jborkl I always think of deaf people talking when I read tonal bitcoin [21:14]
imsaguy that's fairly accurate [21:14]
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mircea_popescu all injokes are lame to outsiders :D [21:20]
deadweasel DEAF.GMA-PT will not be offered until my other, deaf grandma is in the ground. Then her Tonal IPO can be announced. [21:23]
deadweasel DEAD.MA-PT and DEAD.PA-PT can be offered as needed. [21:24]
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jborkl I remember the first time I read about tonal , I stopped when I reached Bong-Bitcoin [21:26]
jborkl :( [21:26]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.024848 = 1.0188 BTC [+] [21:40]
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topace_ ;;depth [21:56]
gribble Error: "depth" is not a valid command. [21:56]
topace_ !depth [21:56]
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ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [22:03]
gribble Current Blocks: 239532 | Current Difficulty: 1.2153411709775832E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 239903 | Next Difficulty In: 371 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 17 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15257411.5782 | Estimated Percent Change: 25.54015 [22:03]
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fiat500 sheeeeet [22:12]
fiat500 lol [22:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02484 = 0.149 BTC [-] [22:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.477 BTC [-] [22:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 56 @ 0.02484 = 1.391 BTC [-] [22:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00072261 = 1.4091 BTC [+] [22:16]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.02484 = 0.5465 BTC [-] [22:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02484 BTC [-] [22:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00072482 = 1.8092 BTC [+] [22:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0007254 = 3.1345 BTC [+] [22:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2805 @ 0.00072541 = 2.0348 BTC [+] [22:49]
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MJR_ hi all [22:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.469 BTC [-] [22:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.02488 = 0.9206 BTC [+] [22:52]
deadweasel hey MJR_ [22:54]
deadweasel how's it going? [22:54]
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mircea_popescu and here it is http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MG [22:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0007251 = 3.1332 BTC [-] [23:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00072541 = 2.1247 BTC [+] [23:00]
eyetalian very dissapointing dividend on sbet this month :( [23:01]
kakobrekla beats sdice [23:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.109 = 0.981 BTC [-] [23:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.109 = 2.289 BTC [-] [23:03]
eyetalian how come when a limit sell order is placed, it seems someone automatically places another just below it? [23:04]
eyetalian with bbet? [23:04]
eyetalian is there a bot...? [23:04]
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deadweasel um, sell order on bbet? [23:05]
deadweasel what is the question? [23:06]
eyetalian if you try to sell bbet shares [23:06]
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eyetalian with a limit sell [23:06]
eyetalian almost instantly another sell order appears below it [23:06]
mircea_popescu eyetalian i see a few at 149999 ? [23:06]
eyetalian example if you try to sell for 0.19. instantly a sell of 0.1899 appears below it [23:06]
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mircea_popescu possibly somebody is running a bot. [23:07]
eyetalian its almost always a 5000 or 10000 lot size [23:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1087 = 0.9783 BTC [-] [23:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.10861 = 0.4344 BTC [-] [23:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1086 = 1.086 BTC [-] [23:10]
eyetalian mircea_popescu: how can a bot have so many shares on offer? [23:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 13 @ 0.1084 = 1.4092 BTC [-] [23:10]
mircea_popescu eyetalian how many you mean ? 10 k ? [23:10]
mircea_popescu that's not a lot is it. [23:10]
ThickAsThieves not really [23:10]
ThickAsThieves what does qty matter anyway [23:10]
eyetalian yes but no matter what price you put the bot comes in [23:11]
ThickAsThieves maybe he owns 100,000 [23:11]
eyetalian it stops you from being able to exit [23:11]
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ThickAsThieves so put a low enough price [23:11]
mircea_popescu i imagine if the price is too high it will undercut you, [23:11]
eyetalian yea and take a huge loss [23:11]
mircea_popescu but at some point it runs out [23:11]
ThickAsThieves or trick the bot into selling into bids, if it's that exact [23:11]
mircea_popescu well this is called price formation you know. the market atm is incredibly wide [23:11]
eyetalian no its called someone having a huge ammount of shares and gaming the market to ensure all bids are aimed towards the certain supply [23:12]
mircea_popescu 85/150 wtf is that. [23:12]
eyetalian just suspiscious to me thats all [23:12]
eyetalian maybe im wrong [23:12]
mircea_popescu i still don't see how 10k shares is a lot [23:13]
eyetalian its not 10k [23:13]
mircea_popescu it's like 15btc worth or something neh ? [23:13]
eyetalian almost the entire ask size is the bots shares [23:13]
eyetalian ask side [23:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0025 = 0.0125 BTC [-] [23:13]
mircea_popescu um [23:14]
mircea_popescu have you read the ipo contract eyetalian ? [23:14]
eyetalian well yes i know you are selling most of those [23:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.469 BTC [-] [23:14]
mircea_popescu right, like 99% of the ask side is leftover from ipo [23:14]
eyetalian it just seems youve set it up to make sure any new bids go straight to you [23:14]
eyetalian i assume the bot is yours. [23:14]
mircea_popescu nope, i've not been selling any shares. [23:15]
eyetalian ok [23:15]
eyetalian i dont know maybe i am mistaken [23:15]
ThickAsThieves it doesnt matter tho [23:16]
ThickAsThieves you need to sell for less than whomever else is selling [23:16]
eyetalian you cant. [23:16]
ThickAsThieves simple as that [23:16]
ThickAsThieves sur eyou can [23:16]
eyetalian the bot will undercut you forcing you to do a market order. [23:16]
mircea_popescu well if it's a bot ir probably has a limit [23:16]
eyetalian and take a huge loss, which i assume the bot sits on the bid side too [23:16]
mircea_popescu 150, 140, 120, w/e it is [23:16]
eyetalian with a very very low bid [23:16]
ThickAsThieves try pushing the bot into the bids [23:16]
ThickAsThieves .ile .0001 at a time [23:17]
ThickAsThieves like* [23:17]
ThickAsThieves you'll find the bottom [23:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000835 = 0.0017 BTC [-] [23:17]
eyetalian thickasthieves: the bids are very low on purpose i assume it is the bot buying back [23:17]
mircea_popescu probably halves is the fastest. [23:17]
eyetalian mircea_popescu: please dont pretend you dont know about a bot. [23:17]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 150+85/2 [23:17]
gribble 192.5 [23:17]
mircea_popescu i'm not pretending anything dude. [23:17]
eyetalian its your exchange you are well aware whats active on it [23:18]
mircea_popescu ;;calc (150+85)/2 [23:18]
gribble 117.5 [23:18]
ThickAsThieves you are confused man [23:18]
ThickAsThieves even if it IS the bot [23:18]
mircea_popescu i don't snoop nearly to the degree everyone assumes. [23:18]
ThickAsThieves on both ends [23:18]
ThickAsThieves this is still okay [23:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.024501 = 0.9065 BTC [-] [23:18]
ThickAsThieves it just means no one else is buying [23:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 63 @ 0.0245 = 1.5435 BTC [-] [23:18]
eyetalian the bot absorbs any new bids, diverting BTC to itself [23:18]
ThickAsThieves ... [23:18]
eyetalian when someone tries to buy the bot ensures its the bots supply you are buying [23:18]
ThickAsThieves so? [23:19]
eyetalian its just suspiscious thats all [23:19]
ThickAsThieves its a bot [23:19]
eyetalian so its 1 participant gaming the market [23:19]
ThickAsThieves they are designed to make money [23:19]
ThickAsThieves if the bot is in control, [23:19]
ThickAsThieves it's because no one else is playing [23:19]
mircea_popescu i very much doubt a bot makes money on s.bbet tbh. [23:19]
mircea_popescu $avg s.bbet [23:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 2.469 = 17.283 BTC [-] [23:19]
eyetalian it doesnt trading wise [23:19]
mircea_popescu $t s.bbet [23:19]
mircea_popescu wtf was it [23:19]
eyetalian it just ensures you always get the new BTC mircea. [23:20]
ThickAsThieves !t s.bbet [23:20]
assbot How can I be of assistance, my poor man? [23:20]
mircea_popescu $vwap s.bbet [23:20]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.bbet [23:20]
assbot Some are born to endless night. [23:20]
kakobrekla mpexbot = gone [23:20]
mircea_popescu heh mpexbot is ded ghuh ? [23:20]
ThickAsThieves its my bot [23:20]
mircea_popescu da fuck happened there [23:20]
ThickAsThieves any questions? [23:20]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.bbet [23:21]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0008501 / 0.00098566 / 0.00149999 (2900 shares, 2.86 BTC), 7D: 0.0008501 / 0.00098566 / 0.00149999 (2900 shares, 2.86 BTC), 30D: 0.0008501 / 0.00146134 / 0.00172499 (12215 shares, 17.85 BTC) [23:21]
mircea_popescu lol srsly ? [23:21]
ThickAsThieves nahi hate bots [23:21]
ThickAsThieves lol [23:21]
ThickAsThieves but my point is [23:21]
mircea_popescu smickles hey where's mpexbot! [23:21]
ThickAsThieves it may as well be me [23:21]
assbot and i hate you tat [23:21]
ThickAsThieves hehe [23:21]
* ThickAsThieves pets assbot [23:22]
mircea_popescu lol [23:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4241 = 2.1205 BTC [+] [23:22]
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mod6 (00:31) (!) mpexbot ~supybot@unaffiliated/smickles/bot/mpexbot has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [23:22]
mircea_popescu i wonder if there actually is a bot or the guy just has a "world is satan" outlook [23:22]
mod6 looks like it timed out today [23:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0247999 = 0.0992 BTC [+] [23:23]
eyetalian mircea_popescu dont act stupid. [23:23]
eyetalian you know what you are doing [23:23]
mircea_popescu your definition of "acting stupid" may be a little broken. [23:23]
eyetalian you are using a script to divert any BTC bids to yourself. [23:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.02489 = 1.9912 BTC [+] [23:24]
mircea_popescu sigh. [23:24]
eyetalian being the IPO issuer. [23:24]
ThickAsThieves i still dont understand the problem [23:24]
ThickAsThieves even if it was mp [23:24]
mircea_popescu i'm the half issuer who people praise, as per traditiob [23:24]
ThickAsThieves or me [23:24]
mircea_popescu it's kakobrekla who people cuss out. please stick to it. [23:24]
ThickAsThieves superservant and super scapegoat [23:24]
ThickAsThieves so many hats [23:24]
eyetalian thickasthieves: what hes doing is being dishonest about a market functioning. [23:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-] [23:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-] [23:25]
ThickAsThieves he's providing liquidity [23:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 25 @ 0.105 = 2.625 BTC [-] [23:25]
ThickAsThieves :) [23:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1035 = 0.5175 BTC [-] [23:25]
eyetalian thickasthieves: he only places limit sell orders when someone else is selling. [23:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.102001 = 2.142 BTC [-] [23:25]
eyetalian they arent tehre any other time [23:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 100 @ 0.102 = 10.2 BTC [-] [23:25]
ThickAsThieves but there must still be a top [23:25]
ThickAsThieves and a bottom [23:25]
eyetalian its always his ask you are hitting. [23:25]
eyetalian yep [23:25]
ThickAsThieves for the market price [23:25]
mircea_popescu what insanity is this. there's always someone selling wtf. [23:25]
ThickAsThieves that the bot is willing to play [23:25]
mircea_popescu the world doesn't start and end when you move. [23:25]
ThickAsThieves all you need to do is find that price [23:26]
eyetalian mircea_popescu: the sell orders arent present until someone places them [23:26]
ThickAsThieves then you have reached your "reality" [23:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.024897 = 0.4979 BTC [+] [23:26]
eyetalian ie someon puts a limit 0.19 the bot instantly puts a 0.189 [23:26]
eyetalian but the bot was not active earlier [23:26]
ThickAsThieves this is true for all sell orders , no? [23:26]
eyetalian it only ensures bids are diverted [23:26]
ThickAsThieves nothing exists til it exists [23:26]
eyetalian um [23:26]
kakobrekla i admint, this is preety funny. [23:27]
mircea_popescu im sorry, i don't see much more than "how dare other people offer what i'm trying to sell for less than i want for it". [23:27]
kakobrekla admit [23:27]
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eyetalian thats not whats happening [23:27]
eyetalian if the script is selling for 0.20 [23:27]
eyetalian and you come in 0.19 [23:27]
eyetalian it instantly puts 0.189 [23:27]
ThickAsThieves whats the lowest amount you'll sell your BBET for? [23:27]
mircea_popescu ok, and if you come in at 0.15 ? [23:27]
eyetalian becuase it has such massive supply available the entire premise is to divert bids [23:27]
FabianB eyetalian: did you buy too high and now you want out doing a lower valuation than before? [23:27]
kakobrekla eyetalian the way i see it someone wants to do exactly the same thing you want to do but they have a bot and you dont, so you are pissed. [23:27]
ThickAsThieves i'll adjust the bt for you [23:27]
eyetalian to the 1 buyer [23:27]
eyetalian mircea: it will adjust again. [23:28]
eyetalian kako: the supply the bot has is so high it has to be the owners doing it [23:28]
kakobrekla that is just false [23:28]
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mircea_popescu well iirc the numbers, about 1mn or so shares sold. [23:29]
mircea_popescu during the ipo [23:29]
eyetalian what price were bbet shares initially offered [23:29]
ThickAsThieves even if the bot owns ALL the shares taht you dont' it's still fair [23:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7416 @ 0.00072541 = 5.3796 BTC [+] [23:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1984 @ 0.00072545 = 1.4393 BTC [+] [23:29]
kakobrekla wasnt it 1.5mn? [23:29]
mircea_popescu substract from that w/e you're holding and that's the presumptive's bot max supply. [23:29]
mircea_popescu something like that. [23:29]
mircea_popescu eyetalian 0.00001 BTC each. [23:29]
mircea_popescu it's in the contract. [23:29]
eyetalian but all of them went to you. [23:30]
ThickAsThieves WTB S.BBET 0.00085011 [23:30]
kakobrekla eyetalian the shares went to ipo investors not us [23:31]
ThickAsThieves eyetalian, what price do you think IS fair? [23:31]
mircea_popescu no they didn't go to me lol. [23:31]
ThickAsThieves i already told you, it's my bot, and I own all the shares [23:32]
ThickAsThieves what do you need from me? [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.0007251 = 12.0367 BTC [-] [23:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.0031 = 0.186 BTC [+] [23:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.000706 = 0.0028 BTC [+] [23:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0025 = 0.005 BTC [-] [23:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000707 = 0.0064 BTC [+] [23:37]
ThickAsThieves I just got a pm from someone asking for a $68,000 loan [23:37]
mircea_popescu sharpie in pooper ? [23:38]
ThickAsThieves they wanna buy mining equipment [23:38]
ThickAsThieves and let me hold AM as collateral [23:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 16 @ 0.00243 = 0.0389 BTC [-] [23:38]
ThickAsThieves uhhhhh where do I sign! [23:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.477 BTC [+] [23:39]
ThickAsThieves I guess I have earned the "will do anything for AM shares" reputation. [23:39]
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topace_ hehe [23:41]
mircea_popescu i suppose in principle it could be said anyone on mpex is running a bot [23:41]
topace_ way to go [23:41]
mircea_popescu inasmuch as well... most everyone uses the pympex script or some equiv [23:41]
mircea_popescu a bot is what, two lines of code away [23:41]
eyetalian no only you [23:41]
eyetalian there arent enough participants to have that supply [23:42]
mircea_popescu eyetalian are you of the "disregard everything because i know better" school ? [23:42]
ThickAsThieves i think you just think BBET is worth more than it really is [23:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.024889 BTC [-] [23:42]
ThickAsThieves maybe you overpaid? [23:42]
mircea_popescu [BitFunder] Kenilworth Exploration - Real World Mining Opertunity with Bitcoins [23:43]
ThickAsThieves ... [23:43]
mircea_popescu heh. [23:43]
eyetalian you will always overpay until the bot has unloaded all of its shares(millions) [23:43]
ThickAsThieves overpaying is relative [23:43]
eyetalian thats the whole point. [23:43]
eyetalian gobble up as many BTC as possible [23:43]
ThickAsThieves why buy somehting for more than it's worth? [23:43]
ThickAsThieves here's your solution [23:44]
ThickAsThieves have DeadTerra move your shares to a PT [23:44]
ThickAsThieves no bots! [23:44]
eyetalian they are still linked to mpex [23:44]
ThickAsThieves ? [23:44]
ThickAsThieves its an mpex stock [23:45]
eyetalian yes [23:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.02488 = 0.4976 BTC [-] [23:45]
ThickAsThieves yes [23:45]
ThickAsThieves but the problem is the bot [23:45]
ThickAsThieves not mpex [23:45]
eyetalian i think thats why nobody wants to list assets on mpex, just too much shady activity in the background imo [23:45]
ThickAsThieves so move your shares to a PT [23:45]
ThickAsThieves where there are no bots [23:45]
ThickAsThieves and sell there [23:45]
mircea_popescu i gather the problem are other people, generally. [23:46]
eyetalian the PT still reflects mpex prices duh. [23:46]
ThickAsThieves bit you wont get bots undercutting you [23:46]
mircea_popescu eyetalian everyone WANTS to. mostly nobody is allowed to. [23:46]
FabianB eyetalian: why did you buy in the first place? [23:46]
mircea_popescu huge difference there. [23:46]
ThickAsThieves you can place your asks in peace [23:46]
ThickAsThieves theoritically... [23:46]
eyetalian mircea: as far as most are concerned havelock is the exchange dealing in the AAA assets [23:46]
ThickAsThieves theoretically* [23:46]
ThickAsThieves oh geez [23:47]
mircea_popescu lmao ok. [23:47]
mircea_popescu topace_ you put the noob up to it or is he just trollin' ? [23:47]
ThickAsThieves I'm gonna start a space exploration asset [23:50]
ThickAsThieves trying to raise 100,000btc [23:50]
mircea_popescu looking for anything in particular ? [23:50]
ThickAsThieves intelligent life [23:50]
ThickAsThieves badoom! [23:50]
ThickAsThieves maybe i'll mine in space too [23:52]
ThickAsThieves like those rich guys [23:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.477 = 4.954 BTC [+] [23:54]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024896 = 0.1245 BTC [-] [23:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.024897 = 1.9918 BTC [+] [23:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.024897 = 0.3735 BTC [+] [23:56]
mircea_popescu oookay [23:57]
mircea_popescu theres actually bids of s.mg nao o.o [23:57]
ThickAsThieves no listing on coinbr yet [23:57]
mircea_popescu i think jurov has to hand approve [23:58]
ThickAsThieves those aren't real bids, just a bot [23:58]
mircea_popescu also bitcoins are fake internet money used by people from tirol. [23:59]
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