Forum logs for 03 Dec 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03 = 0.12 BTC [-] [00:00]
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Vexual 90 BTC to give everyonbe on earth one satoshi [00:05]
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kakobrekla how to make 90 btc useless [00:09]
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BingoBoingo Iceland's growing up! [00:12]
ozbot BBC News - Rare Iceland armed police operation leaves man dead [00:12]
mircea_popescu Counselling is being provided to the special forces team. [00:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0297 = 0.3267 BTC [-] [00:14]
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Vexual @just imagine he was a seal@ [00:15]
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Vexual [00:20]
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dub america: [00:33]
ThickAsThieves why is there a Lockheed Martin ad on that page [00:37]
Vexual coz helicopter [00:38]
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ThickAsThieves what might a slate reader buy from LH? Or maybe it's a recruitment ad? [00:39]
Vexual helicopter + college [00:40]
Vexual a phd is paying someone to read something that took you 3 years to write. [00:41]
dub ads are usually defined by your bubble not the site [00:41]
jurov` “take your parents to work day.” rly, this is a thing??? [00:41]
dub I wonder how many people that took parents to a job interview got hired [00:42]
dub what do you even have on your CV at that point? [00:43]
mircea_popescu "Rates of depression are soaring among millennials in college." [00:43]
dub I learned to wipe my own ass just the other day [00:43]
truffles life is depressing, when thats figured out, maybe some will grow up [00:43]
mircea_popescu i find the fact that this is even measured offensive. [00:43]
jborkl so, Picostocks got haxxored for 6000btc now? [00:43]
mircea_popescu fuck you, go live in the park. [00:43]
Vexual lol, dr park [00:43]
dub they should hand out cyanide pills instead of prozac [00:44]
ThickAsThieves why does anyone take Peter Schiff seriously? [00:44]
mircea_popescu " It became increasingly difficult to balance school, socializing, laundry, and a part-time job." [00:44]
mircea_popescu no seriously ? get a job in porn, the set mother will tell you when you need to wash the cum off. [00:44]
jborkl ie reading facebook while cooking hamburgers [00:44]
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mircea_popescu jborkl a few days back, the theory ghoes. [00:45]
ThickAsThieves [00:45]
ThickAsThieves (voorhees) [00:45]
jborkl I lose track, it isn't a exciting week anymore if less than 10,000 btc is hacked(run off with by a shitbag) [00:46]
Vexual no wonder laudry coins [00:46]
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mircea_popescu "The big problem is not that they think too highly of themselves. Their bigger challenge is conflict negotiation, and they often are unable to think for themselves." [00:48]
mircea_popescu how the fuck is this not self-contradictory ? [00:48]
truffles shocker amy isnt a dood.. [00:48]
mircea_popescu inasmuch as they're not groveling nude at the feet of their betters, they DO think way too high of themselves. [00:49]
mircea_popescu way, way too high. [00:49]
truffles (gets a gf) [00:49]
Vexual [00:51]
ozbot Beastie Boys : Skills to Pay the Bills - YouTube [00:51]
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jborkl All the noobs think they are really getting bitcoins back from (insert scammer of the week here) [00:52]
ThickAsThieves mp this reminds me of the concept discussed in the past, of well-off parents not properly teaching their kids to stay wealthy, and then over X generations all wealth is lost to the family name [00:52]
jborkl they have not been here in the past and seen (insert scammer of the past week here) did not pay anyone back [00:53]
mike_c of course, since the ancestor who made the money is dead, who cares? [00:53]
ThickAsThieves many care, legacy is a big deal for some [00:53]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the trick is, making a fortune and keeping a fortune are pretty divergent skills. [00:53]
mircea_popescu consider the following imo very illustrative example : [00:53]
mircea_popescu everyone involved in bitcoin of any consequence exhibits the "cave early" behaviour. [00:54]
mike_c tough to enjoy your legacy when you're dead. [00:54]
ThickAsThieves mike_c this value varies by culture [00:54]
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ThickAsThieves some really do enjoy knowing they have a legacy to leave [00:54]
mircea_popescu now, this is a rare behaviour irl. if you go up to a girl and ask her out, it's rare that she says "ok, i'm willing to be your gf now" after two hours. [00:54]
Vexual ah hem [00:55]
mircea_popescu in general, the expectation will be that she caves late. and indeed should you after a three week courtship tell her gtfo, you should have said yes on the first pass it'll be unexpected. [00:55]
mircea_popescu now, bitcoiners are exactly the opposite : they are in bitcoin because they caved early, to the lures of this bitcoin idea. [00:55]
mircea_popescu the bears are more akin to the girl : they expect bitcoin to court them. [00:55]
mircea_popescu the funny thing is, that the people who caved early and got bitcoin will continue with the same behaviour : they cave early and get dollars, too. [00:56]
ThickAsThieves and will thus miss much of the appreciation [00:56]
mircea_popescu this is why we see this see saw pattern on the price : once it reaches 100 everyone who thought "three digits" sells out [00:56]
mircea_popescu the mounting buying pressure is temporarily sated, but then later on ? 200, 500, 800 go by like a dream [00:56]
mircea_popescu because all the kids who were going to sell at 100 to 1000 sold at 130ish [00:57]
mircea_popescu the same will repeat for a while, i suspect. most of the people that willl sell under 10k have sold or are about to sell at 1k ish [00:57]
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mircea_popescu now, this behaviour clearly does not optimize the $$$ you get for your btc, [00:57]
mircea_popescu but it is coherent with the behaviour that GOT YOU that btc in the first place. [00:57]
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mircea_popescu and this is not limited to our narrow corner of tghe world. keeping a fortune and making a fortune are widely different skillsets. [00:58]
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Vexual eat rice [00:58]
Vexual sell wagu [00:59]
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mircea_popescu obviously the same cave early behaviour is related to a lot of the forum-style scammy nonsense passing for investment so successfully. [01:03]
mircea_popescu everythin's connected. [01:03]
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Vexual people are mostly just fish with arms [01:03]
truffles orly [01:04]
Vexual 1,2,4,? [01:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00078568 = 7.0711 BTC [-] [01:05]
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Vexual 8,64 [01:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00010998 = 1.0998 BTC [+] {4} [01:07]
benkay 7,96 [01:11]
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kakobrekla 79.6 [01:13]
Vexual [01:14]
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Vexual solve for x [01:15]
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mike_c ugh, i'm mining litecoins. somebody smack me please. [01:18]
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mircea_popescu what's diff at yet ? [01:19]
mike_c i think i'm currently losing about $2 an hour [01:19]
benkay` huh [01:19]
benkay` that sounded like a bubble popping [01:19]
mircea_popescu lol [01:19]
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mike_c diff is 1,734 [01:20]
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mircea_popescu wow. [01:20]
mike_c projected: 12% bump in 17 hours [01:20]
ThickAsThieves i've been selling off my ltc-mining setups [01:20]
ThickAsThieves they just sat for mos [01:20]
ThickAsThieves my bad [01:20]
mircea_popescu it's winter tho [01:21]
pankkake just use middlecoin [01:21]
ThickAsThieves turns out i hate caring for computers and being hot [01:21]
mircea_popescu heh. [01:21]
mircea_popescu i made that call in 2011. [01:21]
mircea_popescu boy it saved me so much aggravation hence. [01:21]
ThickAsThieves i basically stopped once it was all paid for [01:21]
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Vexual they were losing $2 an hour in 2009, but not getting hot [01:22]
ThickAsThieves the stuff has better resale value than i expected [01:22]
ThickAsThieves getting like $225+ for GPUs [01:22]
pankkake lol, they probably went up in price too [01:23]
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pankkake usually stuff used for mining is considered half dead [01:23]
ThickAsThieves some is, the 7970 seems prone to this [01:23]
ThickAsThieves it gets all glitchy for normal use [01:23]
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mircea_popescu 225 seems insane, nvidia cards are better for gaming anywqay [01:25]
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mike_c well, that was fun. experience gained, miner off. [01:25]
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kakobrekla retired already? [01:25]
mircea_popescu lol [01:25]
mike_c can't afford it :) [01:25]
mircea_popescu he's off to buy the east indies on his accumulated mined coins [01:26]
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kakobrekla i still use same gpu as in 2011 [01:26]
kakobrekla mined howmany coins on it [01:26]
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kakobrekla noone knows. [01:27]
kakobrekla a bunch. [01:27]
Vexual 24/7ish? [01:27]
kakobrekla well its not mining any more but at the time yeah [01:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3304002 BTC [+] [01:27]
kakobrekla in a dedi rig [01:27]
kakobrekla then i moved it to my main box [01:28]
Vexual hashrate? [01:28]
kakobrekla its a 5770 OCed to shit [01:28]
kakobrekla 255 mhash [01:29]
kakobrekla 260 on a good day [01:29]
kakobrekla iirc [01:29]
kakobrekla anyway no glitches or anything and i abused the card a lot [01:30]
mircea_popescu sounds like a good amount of card. [01:30]
kakobrekla :p [01:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1161 BTC [+] {2} [01:30]
Vexual 100 btc? [01:31]
kakobrekla a week [01:32]
kakobrekla :D [01:32]
ThickAsThieves "Making conversation at Thanksgiving can be hard, but apparently it's especially hard if you're an employee of the National Security Agency. So the agency has stepped in to solve the problem, issuing this list of approved talking points for fending off hostile relatives" [01:32]
ThickAsThieves [01:32]
ozbot NSA Sent Home Talking Points for Employees to Use in Conversations with Family & Friends During Holi [01:32]
ThickAsThieves (1) NSA’s mission is of great value to the Nation”; (2) NSA performs its mission the right way—lawful, compliant and in a way that protects civil liberties and privacy; (3) NSA performs its mission exceptionally well. We strive to be the best that we can be, because that’s what America requires as part of its defense in a dangerous world; (4) The people who work for NSA are [01:33]
ThickAsThieves loyal Americans with expert skills who make sacrifices to help protect the freedoms we all cherish; (5) NSA is committed to increased transparency, public dialog and faithful implementation of any changes required by our overseers. (No emphasis added. Underlines appear in the document.) [01:33]
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ThickAsThieves delusionists [01:34]
Vexual snowden didnt get that memo [01:34]
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thestringpuller some of the stuff mircea_popescu says is like listening to the buddha speak lol [01:36]
thestringpuller kakobrekla: why u no hustle hard? [01:36]
thestringpuller oh yea [01:36]
thestringpuller you a big meanie [01:36]
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mircea_popescu lol this is nsa crap so soviet oy vey. [01:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00340045 = 0.1326 BTC [-] {2} [01:38]
thestringpuller except america isn't at all socialist in any way [01:38]
thestringpuller ?* [01:38]
ThickAsThieves i asked a black guy if he was related to a famous black guy that he looks very similar to, his response "defining features don't equal relation at least not typically" is he a grump, or did i cross some kinda they-all-look-the-same line? [01:40]
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dub was the similarity in his big lips/wide node/sloping forehead/big penis? [01:44]
dub s/node/nose [01:44]
dub if so, you racis [01:45]
asciilifeform countdown to when they start fitting employees with Columbian collars...? [01:45]
ThickAsThieves the dude looks just like Frank Faison from the Wire [01:45]
ThickAsThieves pretty distinctive looking black dude [01:45]
kakobrekla thestringpuller what do ya mean? [01:47]
thestringpuller i just trollin' i should stop. [01:49]
truffles TAT yea but u think they all look a like [01:49]
thestringpuller kakobrekla: you work behind the scenes i guess [01:49]
thestringpuller making sure the gears turn [01:49]
ThickAsThieves at least 2 of em look alike, s'all i'm syain [01:50]
kakobrekla i just grease the assbot. [01:50]
truffles its still amazing? [01:50]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [01:50]
Vexual [01:51]
ozbot Rake - S1E8 Tax Charges clip - YouTube [01:51]
truffles 2nd clip of shocker ending Vexual! [01:54]
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mircea_popescu i wonder what happens come 2016 when some republican gets elected us president if obama announces he "won't enforce" the new presidency. [01:55]
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ThickAsThieves [01:56]
ozbot Genetic portraits: How much do you and your family members really look alike? [01:56]
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truffles are u gonna have a moment`? [01:56]
dub motherfuckers be line steppin [01:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: same thing that will happen if kermit the frog clamps his teeth around the hand inside his arse and drags it out. [01:57]
mircea_popescu lol [01:57]
truffles TAT thats freaky [01:58]
* truffles looks like both parents [02:00]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that kinda reminds me of the one time i got a buncha romanian blogger's faces and symmetrized them [02:01]
mircea_popescu [02:01]
ozbot Simetrie online pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:01]
Vexual That kinda reminds me of winmorph 1.0 [02:02]
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ThickAsThieves i like this stuff [02:04]
mircea_popescu [02:04]
turbo_ac100_ ah cool oglaf on trilema! [02:04]
mircea_popescu freakiest chick ever. [02:04]
mircea_popescu turbo_ac100_ im a huge fan. [02:04]
turbo_ac100_ rightfully so! [02:04]
turbo_ac100_ rightly so... f'in english! [02:06]
truffles related story, waking up one day with 10-centimeter tumor where u cant sleep .. [02:07]
deadweasel that picture hurts my brain mircea_popescu [02:07]
mircea_popescu deadweasel she wants to blind date you. [02:08]
mircea_popescu you date her, you go blind. [02:08]
Vexual [02:08]
deadweasel she's going to have to. [02:08]
truffles cuz u only date 10's? [02:08]
deadweasel as of friday, yes. [02:09]
truffles haha gl [02:09]
deadweasel any of you eastern europeans been treated with Bacteriophage? [02:10]
mircea_popescu it's quite rare deadweasel. [02:11]
Vexual the 10 got boils? [02:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.10500004 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2} [02:12]
truffles well done id say [02:13]
ozbot Bacteriophage animation - YouTube [02:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.112249 = 0.2245 BTC [+] {2} [02:13]
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truffles oh my [02:16]
ozbot Pancreatic cancer risk increases with every 2 strips of bacon you eat: Study - CBS News [02:16]
Duffer1_ nooooOOOOO :( [02:17]
truffles study 2012, conditions mightve changed [02:18]
Vexual pancreatic cancer risk increases with every two steps you take [02:18]
truffles i was just looking if there was a non scanner way to tell if uve got cancer.. [02:18]
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Duffer1_ trained dog for certain cancers [02:19]
truffles Jack Andraka i know is working on some test strips.. [02:19]
truffles but im not likely to have those he's testing .. [02:20]
dub isnt there a recent genetic breakthrough that we are the result of a monkey fucking a pig [02:20]
Vexual cancer isn't much of a problem until you're dead, then it's less of a problem [02:20]
dub we don't eat a lot of monkey, perhaps the jews are right [02:21]
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truffles 0.o [02:21]
ThickAsThieves heh [02:21]
mircea_popescu dub i dunno but i've seen this new thanksgiving nonsense where they cut a turkey and a pigglet and put the halves together [02:23]
ThickAsThieves [02:25]
ozbot 'Humans evolved after a female chimpanzee mated with a pig': Extraordinary claim made by American ge [02:25]
ThickAsThieves the male was the pig! [02:25]
ThickAsThieves not expected [02:25]
mircea_popescu what's this, lysenko ? [02:26]
Vexual divergent evolution is so 2012 [02:26]
truffles pig for the white, chimp for the black, makes sense [02:26]
ThickAsThieves is this theory not testable? [02:28]
ThickAsThieves or have pigs and mokeys evolved too much [02:28]
Vexual theres not enough fossil record to reverse engineer our evolution [02:30]
Vexual and one would expect to see similar hybridisations in lower animals before putting that forward [02:31]
truffles maybe its a publish or perish kinda thing ya know [02:32]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you could use your bitcoin fortune to endow a monkey pigfucking farm [02:32]
Vexual maybe its a crackpipe kinda thing [02:34]
ThickAsThieves maybe Jeff Bezos would buy my farm [02:36]
ThickAsThieves so which side of the brain is monkey/pig? [02:36]
ThickAsThieves [02:36]
ozbot The Truth About The Left Brain / Right Brain Relationship : 13.7: Cosmos And Culture : NPR [02:36]
Vexual you could get some elephants and dolphins and see if you get dugongs [02:36]
ThickAsThieves It makes sense to have specialized brain regions, just as it makes sense to have divisions of labor in other areas of life. But why have specialized hemispheres? [02:36]
ThickAsThieves cuz pigs! [02:36]
mircea_popescu get hipos and dolphins [02:36]
mircea_popescu they're practically the same lineage. [02:36]
ThickAsThieves maybe apes and boars, for bigger humans [02:37]
ThickAsThieves or king kongs! [02:37]
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mircea_popescu im sure pig meant boar hog. [02:38]
mircea_popescu they didn't have basna back then [02:38]
Vexual maybe start with something like a coral [02:38]
ThickAsThieves well they attribute our smooth skin to the pig [02:39]
ThickAsThieves and arent boars hairy? [02:39]
truffles dailymail though [02:39]
ThickAsThieves arent all pigs hairy? [02:39]
mircea_popescu nah [02:39]
mircea_popescu see mangalitsa [02:40]
ThickAsThieves no wonder it had to rape a monkey to get laid [02:41]
truffles if this theory were true would ur mind be blown [02:42]
ThickAsThieves no [02:43]
Vexual yes [02:43]
ThickAsThieves i dont care at all [02:43]
truffles u care [02:43]
truffles this is crazy stuff! [02:43]
ThickAsThieves if some pig humped some monkey ages ago? [02:43]
ThickAsThieves nah [02:44]
mircea_popescu it's patent nonsense anyway. suines and hominides aren't sexuyally compatible. [02:45]
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truffles dubs his theory the 'Monkey-F******-A-Pig hypothesis' [02:45]
truffles hmm [02:45]
kakobrekla its either monkey-pig or monkey-monkey [02:46]
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kakobrekla no difference basically [02:46]
kakobrekla ok ok, pig-pig also. [02:47]
truffles if no holes in science, these theories wouldnt come to light [02:48]
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deadweasel if no holes in people. people wouldn't come about. [02:48]
truffles haha [02:48]
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deadweasel [02:49]
ozbot oweqm - Ghostbin [02:49]
deadweasel this is me trying to understand what might be a good idea. [02:49]
Vexual [02:50]
ozbot - Drunk Wildlife [02:50]
truffles whats with the blockchain storage.. [02:50]
truffles i hear there's child porn snips in it.. [02:50]
truffles this is something the bitcoin foundation should take care of [02:51]
deadweasel truffles, please don't speak so much [02:52]
truffles :( [02:52]
deadweasel or think first, either way [02:52]
truffles well its not "technically" done but still [02:52]
* deadweasel is in depths of lyme ravaging, can't think, very impatient, hates everyone [02:52]
* deadweasel especially truffles :) [02:53]
mircea_popescu truffles you can add some child porn to the blockchain yourself. [02:55]
truffles im saying it should be removed.. [02:55]
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kakobrekla more interesting would be if we can find an algo that would decrpyt the moons surface to some CP pix or vid [02:56]
kakobrekla BAN THE MOON! [02:56]
ThickAsThieves ban the internet [02:57]
ThickAsThieves look at all the damage its done [02:57]
mircea_popescu well at least, if we're contemplating the task of censoring the blockchain, i would say the bitcoin foundation is a well chosen agent. [02:57]
truffles only extreme cases [02:58]
mircea_popescu rarely a more insurmountable task was met by a less apt entity. [02:58]
Duffer1_ hehe [02:58]
mircea_popescu it's like (bfl making asics) ^ of itself [02:58]
mircea_popescu ;;calc (bfl making asics) ** (bfl making asics) [02:58]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [02:58]
Vexual youve never seen me bicycle home from the pub [02:58]
asciilifeform let's censor the digits of pi, while we're at it. [02:59]
kakobrekla only if its in CP [02:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform here's a theorem : for any jpg representation of a six year old riding a tumescent pig penis, [03:00]
mircea_popescu there exists a natural number indicating the first pi decimal at which that jpg representation can be found [03:00]
asciilifeform simon plouffe proved already. [03:00]
mircea_popescu whole and unabridged [03:00]
mircea_popescu ayup. [03:00]
kakobrekla heh [03:01]
asciilifeform only problem is that said offset is typically much longer than the payload. but this may not be a problem for this use case. [03:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i vaguely recall that as long as the payload is finite, so is the offset [03:02]
mircea_popescu but i don't remember who proved that one [03:02]
asciilifeform here's the fun part [03:02]
asciilifeform not part of the proof, afaik [03:02]
asciilifeform if you can put up with lossiness, you make the search considerably easier. [03:03]
mircea_popescu a good point [03:03]
asciilifeform the offset where the digits, using some straightforward bitmap view, can be Roscharched into the pic, is probably findable. [03:03]
mircea_popescu i change to "a recognisable depiction" [03:04]
asciilifeform 'pi pr0n search service.' [03:04]
asciilifeform who needs mersenne primes! [03:04]
mircea_popescu this should be a xkcd [03:04]
mircea_popescu "what are you doing all by yourself in the dark ?!" [03:04]
mircea_popescu "scanning the pi decimals for lez prons" [03:05]
mircea_popescu btw, butthurt re the bbp :!topic/sci.math.symbolic/a3kVKVYJhgc [03:07]
kakobrekla just scan the moon with a qr gun until you get a small boy with a penis [03:07]
kakobrekla and with that line ill be leaving [03:08]
kakobrekla nite [03:08]
deadweasel nite [03:08]
truffles so much downside to drinking alcohol [03:10]
truffles this "idea" so advance.. [03:11]
truffles things that are easier to keep track of are hmmm [03:13]
Vexual just 22/7 and use your imagination [03:14]
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mircea_popescu [03:19]
mircea_popescu pig theory proven [03:20]
asciilifeform unrelated: [03:22]
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dub is this theory not testable? [03:31]
dub I would hope somewhere someone is trying to prove it by mating pigs and monkeys [03:32]
mircea_popescu and pandas. [03:32]
dub mate all the things [03:32]
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Duffer1_ Ciphertrade [03:35]
BingoBoingo Can an S.PigFuckingaMonkeyFuckingaPanda be far away? I might have to see if Cryptostocks will list it... [03:35]
asciilifeform notably missing is: slavecoin. [03:35]
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truffles Dr McCarthy thinks "the human race is a very good thing" so he may be wrong on others [03:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so what was the response, "fuck you, we'll sell fior bitcoin " ? [03:37]
asciilifeform '23' being a u.s. corp, the response will probably be: doggy submission. followed by death. [03:39]
truffles Primecoin sounds nice [03:40]
mircea_popescu "We have received the warning letter from the Food and Drug Administration. We recognize that we have not met the FDA’s expectations regarding timeline and communication regarding our submission. Our relationship with the FDA is extremely important to us and we are committed to fully engaging with them to address their concerns." [03:40]
mircea_popescu meh. grow some backbone, ye land of the free ppls! [03:40]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform mircea_popescu: Well it is run by on of the Googler's spouses so I imagine it will meet the same fate as so many google related projects... [03:40]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: word is that mr. B has a new fucktoy [03:41]
asciilifeform and so 23 has lost its 'roof'. [03:41]
asciilifeform hence this turn of events. [03:41]
mircea_popescu "we have received large amounts of unsolicited mailings from various poseurs. sorting through all this crap takes time which would be better used otherwise. we are uninterested in the volunteered opinions of self-styled authorities, we intend to retain experts for answering any questions we may need answered and ingore anything else" [03:43]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, I would have imagined it would just get ignored into oblivion. Then again unlike actually Google products they have an actual revenue stream in the form of recurring billing to maintain access to your results. [03:43]
nubbins` [03:44]
ozbot Roll OF 50 Casascius 2012 5 BTC Blank Coins Unfunded Roll Your OWN | eBay [03:44]
asciilifeform in other news, u.s. corps wake up to the fact that model choppers can deliver packages: [03:44]
nubbins` ^ sweet, they come with their own private keys and addresses so you don't need to worry about generating your own [03:44]
asciilifeform but hung up on red tape. [03:44]
nubbins` i'd get food delivered by drone, no sweat [03:44]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform remember the old laser-in-eye terrorism post ? [03:45]
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mircea_popescu seems that's not exactly how it works out. market favours the "meth from the sky" approach [03:45]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sure. down the chimney. [03:45]
mircea_popescu by the time the average city has > 100k of these in air at any given time [03:45]
Vexual im already prining the chimney qr codes [03:46]
mircea_popescu it'll be a riot to keep pumping the "nsa is doing an excellent job tracking everything!!1" [03:46]
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asciilifeform of course, 'dead drop' solves the SR delivery problem, but it isn't techno-sexy [03:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you are telling me that was dsomeone's fuck toy ?! [03:47]
mircea_popescu or did you mean fuckboy [03:47]
asciilifeform was... [03:48]
mircea_popescu get out of here. [03:48]
Vexual you get a portion of the btc delivery fee when you `obtain` and maintain a mesh drone [03:48]
mircea_popescu when, before google listed ?! [03:48]
asciilifeform the choppers are easy to build, one fellow i know cobbled together a classic design that lifts several full soda cans. [03:50]
asciilifeform putters along for 1/2 hr. or so. [03:50]
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asciilifeform what changed? cheap 3-axis gyros. [03:51]
Vexual from phones [03:51]
BingoBoingo Maybe someone will scale up this idea to fire paintballs at any lenses mounted on drones [03:51]
mircea_popescu the cost per lb hour of chopper should be in the 5 to 10 cents range, once you get it mass produced. [03:51]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo usg drone fighting rc planes is definitely the thing of the future. [03:51]
mircea_popescu pewpewpew [03:51]
Vexual 30 minutes, or next time it's not windy [03:52]
asciilifeform the pill for usg drones: sail right into the tailpipe. [03:52]
asciilifeform no need for bullet [03:52]
mircea_popescu (actually, i wonder what a rc plane equiped with 4 ounces of acetone and a sparker would do to a drone carrying a missile) [03:52]
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Vexual take off the paint? [03:53]
asciilifeform magnet, thermite. [03:53]
Vexual im pretty sure anyone who might actually want to down a drone would have better explosives [03:53]
Vexual and an rc plane is relly just another drone [03:54]
asciilifeform the famous (u.s.) drones are very much tooled for unarmed targets that can't afford so much as a binocular. [03:54]
Vexual lot of good binoculars are going to do [03:55]
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asciilifeform no defenses, to speak of, no maneuvering ability. [03:55]
BingoBoingo Vexual: thermite is simple and avoids all of the pretense concerning explosives. That the ingredients are essentially rust and aluminum powder or filings means preventing its production is impossible. [03:55]
asciilifeform in the immortal words of an airplane designer: what can two machines do that no one, no matter how costly, cannot? [03:56]
asciilifeform be in two places. [03:56]
asciilifeform now try 1000 places... [03:56]
mircea_popescu [03:56]
mircea_popescu i dunno... this thing doesn;'t look like a little flame throwing would take its paint off [03:56]
mircea_popescu it looks more like the end for gracie. [03:57]
asciilifeform scale? [03:57]
mircea_popescu large unprotected air intake [03:57]
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Vexual honey! did you order something from amazBOOM! [03:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform 3m long, 100kgs [03:57]
mircea_popescu its the S-100 model modified [03:58]
mircea_popescu [03:58]
ozbot Home - Schiebel [03:58]
asciilifeform death from the air would be a little scarier if they so much as managed to get gps spoofing off the table. [03:59]
Vexual u can gps upside down with lasers [03:59]
asciilifeform i'd like to see what one of these does near... an ordinary spark gap. [03:59]
Vexual do they make a cargo model? [04:00]
asciilifeform Vexual: that's nearly an adult chopper, not comparable to the miniatures at all. [04:01]
Vexual yeah, fly em outta peru [04:06]
Vexual alibaba had some long range winged drones last year [04:06]
Vexual no longer [04:06]
asciilifeform Vexual: your local toy store still has them. [04:07]
Vexual big fuckers [04:07]
asciilifeform just needs a little extra sweat. [04:07]
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dub gps spoofing is wild [04:10]
dub supposed to be pretty easy [04:10]
asciilifeform dub: why perforate enemy, take him home as a pet. [04:10]
dub rf hardening would be another question [04:11]
asciilifeform dub: the notion of rf-hardening a widget that includes a large antenna is a curious one. [04:11]
dub presumably you would harden in the defensive direction (down) while leaving a channel on the harder to target side (up) [04:12]
Vexual its not actually large though is it [04:13]
asciilifeform dub: the hypothetical was: a toystore chopper limpets on to the larger one. what ought to be in the former. [04:13]
mircea_popescu acetone im telling you. [04:14]
asciilifeform one fun possibility: toy turns its rotors 90 deg., they turn into... windmill generators. [04:15]
asciilifeform for the spark gap... [04:15]
dub cheaper yet, a parachute [04:16]
Vexual a magnet and a parachute [04:16]
asciilifeform need an uncommonly solid grip, for a drogue chute. [04:16]
dub of course they can probably mitigate it when they realise telemetry is not lining up wth flight plan [04:17]
asciilifeform flight plan, from the moment of limpeting, should be 'vertical.' [04:17]
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dub not if for a rotating wing [04:18]
dub it'll just limp a bit [04:18]
Vexual aluminium magnets are expensive too [04:18]
asciilifeform dub: for rotating wing, payload is: piano wire. [04:18]
dub hard to deploy right [04:18]
Vexual a long one [04:18]
dub thermite wins anyway [04:18]
asciilifeform no magnets for Al. nail gun. [04:19]
Vexual better make that 1st shot count [04:19]
dub if you're aiming a gun make it an rf gun [04:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform actually, horse hair [04:20]
asciilifeform for choppers, fly two toys, trailing piano wire between. [04:20]
dub otherwise the limpet needs to aquire taret and track [04:20]
mircea_popescu give it a slow death [04:20]
Vexual the theif could trail the piano wire in its path and hope for the tangle [04:20]
asciilifeform fishing line may even work, considering what will happen when the rotor winds it up. [04:20]
mircea_popescu yup [04:21]
asciilifeform (suggested experiment: two tennis balls, fishing line, an old-style uncaged metal fan, an open field.) [04:21]
mircea_popescu usualyl in this sort of situation flexible > rigid [04:21]
dub I think you're going to need to get real lucky to tangle a cord in the prop [04:21]
dub need to attack from above basically [04:21]
mircea_popescu dub not if your fishing wire is part of a net. [04:22]
Vexual is that a little raddome on the top of tail? [04:22]
asciilifeform Vexual: sat uplink [04:22]
Vexual halfway down the tail [04:22]
Vexual or is that for shaft lube? [04:23]
asciilifeform before you know it, we're back to 1930s state of the art: barrage balloon. [04:23]
Vexual it can climb with better conmtrol than descend [04:24]
asciilifeform usg drone is built for specific work: plug unarmed man, in open field, by surprise. [04:24]
asciilifeform to expect that it will be sent to do some other job is odd. [04:24]
asciilifeform a different machine is called for, and will appear. [04:25]
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asciilifeform rf is a more interesting countermeasure than pyrotechnics, because enemy machines can travel by land, sea, hell, sewer line, and not only by air. [04:27]
asciilifeform solve the general case. [04:27]
Vexual sewer drone? [04:28]
asciilifeform when the bureaucrats say 'asymmetric war' and piss their pants, they aren't specifically thinking of bedouins with ak [04:29]
diametric ah discussing the news about amazons drone delivery publicity stunt? [04:29]
asciilifeform but rather, anyone who can out-think the idiots. [04:29]
mircea_popescu where the idiots are themselves. [04:30]
asciilifeform naturally [04:30]
mircea_popescu "this war is asymetric in that the enemy chooses to not make the same exact mistakes we do" [04:30]
Vexual never heard of him [04:30]
mircea_popescu in this sense the us rebellion was asymmetric as seen from king george's palace. [04:30]
asciilifeform asymmetric: 'we are rich, they - poor, they oughta roll over and die fair and square.' [04:31]
mircea_popescu lol [04:31]
mircea_popescu pretty much. [04:31]
Vexual war? what war? [04:32]
asciilifeform Vexual: 'you may not be interested in war, but war is quite interested in you.' [04:32]
Vexual ALL the money? [04:32]
Vexual is that one of yours ascii? [04:33]
asciilifeform nope. [04:34]
asciilifeform trotsky! [04:34]
Vexual never heard of him [04:34]
asciilifeform btw, at the current max range of toy drone, one could achieve very similar results with: catapult. [04:34]
Vexual or a tennis ball [04:35]
asciilifeform (for product delivery, of things that don't mind being thrown) [04:35]
asciilifeform like most SR cargo. [04:35]
Vexual or an avalon [04:35]
diametric I really doubt that will ever come to fruition. It's just publicity. There's no way their attorneys are going to sign off on something thats going to have that much liability. [04:35]
asciilifeform diametric: it will be done. by people who don't care for legalities. [04:36]
diametric The potential damage to property and lives will be way to high. Anything strong enough to carry 5 pound packages is strong enough to kill someone. [04:36]
diametric asciilifeform: yeah [04:36]
diametric I still have faint scars from when I was playing with that one larger multirotor. [04:37]
asciilifeform everybody who builds toy choppers has the characteristic scars. [04:37]
diametric Or worse, there [04:37]
diametric There have been several deaths just this last year from them [04:37]
asciilifeform 'here comes the candle, to light you to bed. here comes the chopper, to chop off your head.' [04:38]
Vexual i lost one, fled immediately [04:38]
asciilifeform in the unlikely event of the 'legit' vendors using choppers, they'll go for enclosed airscrews. 'ufo' shape. [04:39]
Vexual remeber this bit of cgi genius? [04:40]
asciilifeform a modern Diogenes will die comically, 'ipad' crate falling on his head instead of turtle. [04:40]
Vexual [04:40]
ozbot Prototype Quadrotor with Machine Gun - YouTube [04:40]
asciilifeform Vexual: this was widely believed, because they don't teach newton's 3rd law any more... [04:40]
mike_c ;;seen BingoBoingo [04:42]
gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 46 minutes and 28 seconds ago: Vexual: thermite is simple and avoids all of the pretense concerning explosives. That the ingredients are essentially rust and aluminum powder or filings means preventing its production is impossible. [04:42]
BingoBoingo I'm here mike_c [04:42]
mike_c glad to see the gpg section! very useful stuff. [04:42]
mike_c i have recommended it to several people [04:43]
BingoBoingo Thanks mike_c [04:44]
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mircea_popescu speaking of the diogene, [04:45]
mircea_popescu [04:45]
Vexual never heard of him [04:46]
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KRS|gotyawallet Gribble: magnesium in thermite too i think [04:49]
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diametric KRS|gotyawallet: its used to ignite thermite [04:51]
Vexual [04:57]
ozbot GARNETT SILK I AM VEX - YouTube [04:57]
Vexual wrap the mag around a sparkler and flee [04:58]
Vexual factory stuff has mag and oxidised al [04:59]
Vexual and anti caking agent [04:59]
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asciilifeform Vexual: and some taggants, likely, for 'smartasses' [05:00]
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Vexual perhaps i was thinking of my multivitamin [05:03]
nubbins` re: drone copters [05:08]
nubbins` you can thank nintendo for cheap gyro sensors [05:08]
Vexual i thought that was pressure sensors? [05:09]
thestringpuller nubbins`: you mean apple [05:09]
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thestringpuller nubbins` nubbins` nubbins` [05:09]
thestringpuller nub wub nubby dubby dub nubbins` [05:09]
nubbins` consider that a wii motion plus attachment fits in a child's hand, costs $25, and can track acceleration and movement along 3 axes [05:09]
nubbins` and communicates via serial [05:09]
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thestringpuller wii motion plus you mean [05:09]
nubbins` nod [05:09]
Vexual i think iphone had it b4 wiimote [05:10]
nubbins` ah, maybe [05:10]
nubbins` but wiimore is an OTS solution [05:10]
nubbins` *wiimote [05:10]
nubbins` seriously, a motionplus and an arduino sets you back maybe $50-60 [05:10]
nubbins` and it's more than enough to keep a quadcopter in the air [05:10]
Vexual nintendo were the first to mass produce such accurate pressure sensores as in thw wiifit board [05:10]
nubbins` yeah, mass production is key [05:11]
nubbins` 3-axis gyros were around too [05:11]
nubbins` nintendo brought the economy of scale [05:11]
Vexual really? [05:11]
Vexual i always thought it was the other way around [05:11]
nubbins` ah, hm [05:12]
nubbins` i am kind of just making this up [05:13]
Vexual you're probably right nintendo>smartphone>gyrocopter [05:13]
nubbins` but that's what it seemed like in my head [05:13]
nubbins` anyway, there are tons of videos of people using wiimotes and nunchuks to control robots [05:13]
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Vexual no, its the phone [05:15]
nubbins` you can probably just get gyro arduino shields for cheaper than a wiimote now anyway [05:15]
Vexual wiimotes must cost a bit, they dont even give you one with a u [05:17]
nubbins` that's because they give you a $250 controller with your u [05:17]
nubbins` and everyone with a u has an original wii ;D [05:17]
nubbins` altho i agree it's pretty stingy [05:17]
Vexual yeah, so return customers only [05:17]
Vexual and you cant sell your wii with no controllers [05:17]
nubbins` heh, nope [05:18]
nubbins` great if you have a wii and your buddy has a u, tho [05:18]
nubbins` 5-player games [05:18]
nubbins` some of the minigames in wii u party or w/e the bundled game is called are pretty cool [05:18]
Vexual i was looking forward to watchdogs on u sooner [05:20]
Vexual fuck the multiplayer and take my money [05:21]
thestringpuller Vexual you and everyone else in the gaming world. [05:22]
Vexual and wheres zelda? [05:22]
Vexual i want giant spiders! [05:23]
nubbins` giant spiders D: [05:24]
nubbins` would rather giant sliders [05:24]
nubbins` aka regular-sized hamburgers [05:25]
Vexual i made fist burritos and got food poisoning [05:26]
Vexual you never siad wash your knuckes [05:27]
nubbins` turns out the friction from your strikes wasn't enough to denature the proteins? [05:27]
Vexual maybe that was it [05:27]
nubbins` try soaking your fists in lemon juice first. [05:27]
Vexual and punch harder? [05:28]
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nubbins` nod [05:29]
nubbins` always [05:29]
Vexual id send you the log, but it's not really a log [05:30]
Vexual smarthouse my arse [05:31]
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Vexual im putting wiifit sensors under my toilets [05:33]
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Vexual check your guests for scoliosis [05:34]
Vexual and intestinal fortitude [05:35]
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Vexual try that with an xbox, you'd be arrested [05:39]
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Vexual 62 [06:03]
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Vexual 889 [06:07]
ozbot Miley Cyrus - The Backyard Sessions - "Jolene" - YouTube [06:07]
mircea_popescu [06:09]
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ozbot [] The biggest scam in bitcoin history? [06:09]
mircea_popescu this is pretty funny, guy now wants to work for me, admits he couldn't do as good a job as thje girl. [06:09]
mircea_popescu fascinating capitalism [06:09]
asciilifeform prescribe: seppuku? [06:10]
Vexual let him sweep the floor with no pay [06:10]
asciilifeform seems like it was invented for such occasions. [06:10]
mircea_popescu no see, this is the main reason i like the capitalism-democracy combo : i don't have to do anything. [06:10]
mircea_popescu if you live in some sort of more or less republican tyrany it is incumbent upon you to take in all the idiots. [06:11]
Vexual thats not the most funny outcome [06:11]
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mircea_popescu but if you live in the heartless-est system ever invented, you can just nod and ignore. [06:11]
Vexual gentlemen would have another bet [06:12]
asciilifeform why ignore when you can laugh. [06:12]
KRS|gotyawallet [06:12]
ozbot Driicky Graham "Snapbacks & Tattoos" - YouTube [06:12]
mircea_popescu well yeah, but i meant from his perspective. obviously from my perspective i'm laughing [06:12]
Vexual im sure it says somewhere breaking any rule voids any bet [06:13]
Vexual double or nothing would be at least twice as funny [06:13]
mircea_popescu yet you know, in imperial japan or soviet russia or republican rome it is not acceptable for some guy to go "i have no skills master but i would like to work" and he not be taken in, trained and worked. [06:13]
mircea_popescu in a democracy it's quite natural. [06:14]
mircea_popescu i don't know of any system where labour capital has a lesser value. [06:14]
Vexual we all must work within a framework [06:14]
Vexual if you bump your head on the scaffold of a construction site, you havent much hoipoe [06:15]
mircea_popescu hoi poloi ? [06:15]
Vexual hoi [06:16]
asciilifeform well in 'democracy' a polizei will bite you on the arse if you employ the unskilled fellow for the wage he's worth. [06:16]
Vexual i foirgot to puit ino moi doil foirm [06:16]
mircea_popescu exactly. it's actually illegal in the democracy to improve the capital value of labour. [06:16]
mircea_popescu the entire point of the whole thing is to make it so people are worthless and stay worthless. [06:17]
Vexual depends how its done mp [06:17]
KRS|gotyawallet mircea_popescu: do you have an example of that? [06:17]
mircea_popescu Vexual yeah, inasmuch as it's done to exhaust the person without any benefit then it's acceptable. [06:17]
mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet well yes, the entire discussion started with an example. [06:17]
Vexual australia is an interesting case [06:19]
KRS|gotyawallet whre its illegal in a democracy to improve the capital value of labour? You mean pay a man more than a woman for certain types of jobs? [06:19]
Vexual apprently all our medical records were dutifully compiled into the prism database [06:19]
Vexual but theres a few unions that will dissappear a politician [06:20]
mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet no, i mean put them in a position where their abilities and knowledge actually improve so that they are objectively worth more. [06:20]
KRS|gotyawallet ok i see [06:21]
KRS|gotyawallet thanks i didnt understand [06:21]
mircea_popescu the process through which the antique adolescens solidified into vir, ie, a man, is the typical increase in value. it includes such experience as killing others, and being responsible for the self in new situations and so on. [06:21]
mircea_popescu similarly, but more politely, the process through which the medieval youth moved from unskilled apprentice to skilled journeyman to actual craftsman on his own is similar [06:22]
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mircea_popescu these all include two things : adversative education, which is to say education done forcibly, without bothering with the consent of the educated, and political power. neither exist in a democracy, thus reducing the youth to this situation of neoteny. [06:23]
Vexual i was on my mobile phone doing deals at the back in 94 [06:23]
Vexual ill shut the flip when im good and ready bitch [06:24]
Vexual were about 5-10 years off the real info revolution [06:25]
KRS|gotyawallet On one hand we are talking about value, as it applies to labour which probably applies better to the context of capitalism and on the other hand we're applying that toward a democracy which doesnt necessarily recognize value, but rather mob rule. [06:26]
Vexual shits gonna get monkeypig [06:28]
mircea_popescu you can't escape value as such. it's there whether your current viewpoint hides it or not. [06:28]
Vexual hides what? [06:29]
mircea_popescu < take that as a convenient example. [06:29]
ozbot Millennial narcissism: Helicopter parents are college students’ bigger problem. [06:29]
mircea_popescu "amy" is not exactly tradeable for one random individual. she's worth less than the average of 7 billion, which is already pretty damning. [06:29]
mircea_popescu in fact she may well be worth zero. that's an achievement, for a live human. [06:30]
Vexual and a phd in some bullshit noone wants to read flags you as a kneeler [06:30]
asciilifeform nobody is worth zero, in the uranium mines of vorkuta. [06:30]
KRS|gotyawallet worth zero to the society that supports her [06:30]
KRS|gotyawallet haha asciilifeform [06:30]
asciilifeform the fellows who stuffed their gloves with detcord and blew, well, you don't need hands to tramp the dirt [06:31]
asciilifeform nobody's a zero, everyone a hero there. [06:31]
KRS|gotyawallet As is everyone who stuffs their bags with blow. [06:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i doubt. [06:32]
Vexual [06:32]
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mircea_popescu but this is the very point at hand : in the republican tyrani around vorkuta she might be discovered as somewhat valuable. in her hometown @ democracy, she's exactly zero. [06:33]
Vexual tending [06:33]
mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet no, worth zero intrinsically. [06:33]
KRS|gotyawallet right [06:33]
KRS|gotyawallet Vexual: they speak funny there. [06:33]
Vexual thats my country brother [06:34]
KRS|gotyawallet I was just having trouble understanding the worth of labour as it applies to democracy, which is more suited for a discussion about capitalism. [06:34]
KRS|gotyawallet Vexual this is a serious issue [06:35]
Vexual sickness country [06:35]
Vexual they dont camp there for more than a night, let alone dig the shit up [06:37]
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Vexual labour is a free market, if you've got skills or whathaveyou, ask the price [06:40]
Vexual if you get hungry or borded or whatever, drop your price [06:41]
Vexual ask mp, he lived in communist romania, i imagine it wasnt much different [06:42]
KRS|gotyawallet i have a mexican i pay $100 for a day of labour on my property..usually twice a month..he normally makes $80 and works longer in on the farms picking vegetables. [06:42]
KRS|gotyawallet Companies pay him much less because he's an undocumented worker. [06:42]
Vexual i think capitalism is pretty hard wired into humans [06:42]
Vexual he is the company fuckwit [06:42]
KRS|gotyawallet i pay him moar because he works hard, is reliable and very trustworthy..i pay him his equivallent rate as a documented worker. [06:43]
Vexual its a one man fuckin union [06:43]
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KRS|gotyawallet he CAN'T get moar wage here because he's illegally in our country. [06:43]
KRS|gotyawallet In return he works like two men when I only have to pay one. [06:44]
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Vexual youre thinking manhours, where its output you want [06:44]
KRS|gotyawallet comparitavely its nothing to me, i easily drink twice as much as I pay him when I go to the strip club on the weekends to see tits. [06:44]
Duffer1_ drink less [06:45]
Duffer1_ pay more [06:45]
KRS|gotyawallet fuck off [06:45]
KRS|gotyawallet :P [06:45]
Duffer1_ :P [06:45]
Vexual .com [06:45]
mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet so basically you're paying him more because he's worth it. [06:47]
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Vexual id dumb it down another shade, but you know [06:48]
mircea_popescu the democratic system however ensures that he's well penalised for that. [06:48]
KRS|gotyawallet right, he does the work of two men and doesnt need to be managed [06:48]
mircea_popescu unlike amy [06:48]
mircea_popescu also unlike amy, he doesn't vote. he lives in a different system, which both explains him and makes sense to him. [06:49]
KRS|gotyawallet he lives in a VERY different system although he doesn't even live that far away from where i do [06:49]
mircea_popescu well that's basically my point. in his system, every person is valuable, and because oif that you end up with hard working people who aren't depressed. [06:49]
mircea_popescu in amy's system you end up with amy, who has no skills and no future. [06:50]
Vexual i blame amy [06:50]
mircea_popescu so to speak, you brought my example yourself :) [06:50]
KRS|gotyawallet ahh ok..yes. [06:50]
mircea_popescu now, if amy got to spend a few years on a mexican farm among mexican people who'd put her lazy ass to work rather than ask her about her feelings [06:51]
mircea_popescu she'd come back a marrigeable, useful and generally sane and adult woman. [06:51]
KRS|gotyawallet maybe pregnant too. [06:51]
mircea_popescu but this doesn't happen where she lives. why not ? because nobody gives a shit. [06:51]
KRS|gotyawallet capitalism wouldnt let that her system is she given the necessities to survive even though she doesn't work? [06:52]
Vexual you might be confusing capitalism with something else [06:52]
KRS|gotyawallet how so? in a capitalist society she wouldnt be given anything, she would have to do something in order to survive ie: make herself useful [06:52]
mircea_popescu no. [06:53]
Vexual [06:53]
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mircea_popescu the way the capitalist democracy works is that she gets the bare minimum to survive, much like a cow in one of the insalubrous farms they invented. [06:53]
mircea_popescu up to her chest in shit, fed antibiotics to control the infection. everything at the bare minimum. [06:53]
Duffer1_ even then it's almost not survivable [06:54]
mircea_popescu nobody can be bothered to give her a good lashing and put her to work, because this is more skilled and valuable attention than she "deserves". [06:54]
mircea_popescu consequently, she gets 2 hours of "therapy" and social media q.s. [06:54]
Vexual oldest society in the world [06:54]
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asciilifeform "We shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing, by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium." [06:54]
asciilifeform who said? [06:54]
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mircea_popescu and just like nobody botheres with amy i don't bother with that forum fuckwit and so the circle continues. [06:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform either lincoln or churchil [06:55]
mircea_popescu :D [06:55]
asciilifeform 2 [06:55]
KRS|gotyawallet Pray to Jesus so the forum fuckwit can be saved and find salvation. [06:55]
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KRS|gotyawallet LorenzoMoney heh I met him in guy. [06:56]
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ThickAsThieves lol i'm reading a local article about city gov not paying its "futures" to the electric co [14:52]
ThickAsThieves all the "fancy words" are in quotes like that [14:52]
pankkake it's words from the evil faceless finance word [14:53]
pankkake world [14:53]
ThickAsThieves they even have "impact fees" in quotes, something this rag discusses often [14:55]
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truffles TAT when looking like some1 else goes extremely bad [15:11]
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pankkake was looking like someone "being black"? [15:15]
pankkake fuck, 16 year old [15:16]
pankkake nice childhood [15:16]
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ThickAsThieves they arrested him for looking like Urkel [15:17]
truffles yea trying to watch the video [15:19]
truffles firefox will not allow! [15:19]
ThickAsThieves [15:20]
ozbot PayPal Could Embrace Bitcoin - [15:20]
ThickAsThieves nvm this is just some analyst [15:21]
ThickAsThieves thought it was actual news [15:21]
ThickAsThieves tldr 'I bought bitcoins, here's some PayPal hype" [15:21]
mircea_popescu somewhat related, [15:24]
mircea_popescu [15:24]
ozbot The art of making friends and influencing people versus Stockholm Syndrome pe Trilema - Un blog de M [15:24]
truffles orly [15:26]
truffles u want to prove ur wallet is bigger than his wallet lol [15:27]
truffles i wouldnt know about the traffic [15:27]
truffles oh i c [15:27]
truffles why do u have to prove u have more? [15:28]
truffles oh [15:28]
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truffles he is kinda polorizing maybe [15:28]
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mircea_popescu jesus who the fuck do i still have on ignore [15:29]
truffles u sure, Rominia looks kinda poor [15:29]
mircea_popescu i thought i cleared it [15:29]
truffles Diablo-D3 [15:29]
mircea_popescu oh [15:29]
mircea_popescu maybe next year. [15:29]
truffles haha [15:29]
truffles rly, seems like he has bunch of fans in here [15:30]
TomServo Hearing about his slaves is a LOT more interesting that your paleo diet. Just sayin'. [15:30]
truffles well the fact that they have to be slaves is kinda not cool imo [15:30]
pankkake I like both paleo and slave women. which side do I chose? [15:31]
truffles unless he's just saying theyre slaves.. [15:31]
truffles ohh [15:32]
pankkake lol [15:32]
truffles i think of human trafficing when its mentioned *blush* [15:32]
truffles well then thats what theyre into.. [15:33]
mircea_popescu truffles whoi has to be a slave ? [15:33]
truffles mp u bdsm women [15:34]
truffles ur* [15:34]
ThickAsThieves mp you could solve your ignore problem by adding truffles too [15:34]
truffles kinda dont have sympathy for ppl who chose it though [15:34]
ThickAsThieves since he's the only one taking D3 seriously [15:34]
truffles its what they want [15:34]
mircea_popescu this is true... but i got the spirit of xmas earlier [15:35]
ThickAsThieves lol [15:35]
truffles TAT ure so mean [15:35]
ThickAsThieves D3 it is absolutely inconsequential to me what MP does for his personal life [15:35]
ThickAsThieves i'm feeling grinchy... [15:36]
truffles TAT what is your problem with me and Diablo-D3 [15:36]
mircea_popescu anyway, nobody has to be a slave. it's a voluntary arrangement, and it has its advantages. chief among which that you're about 10x as quick to learn as a slave. [15:37]
ThickAsThieves I think that was the first "mean" accusation for me, have I really made it? [15:37]
truffles TAT snarky > mean [15:38]
mircea_popescu pls spell it "snarky", like "futures" [15:38]
ThickAsThieves i remember being in grade school having to write little page about Christmas, [15:39]
ThickAsThieves I put Santa Claus in quotes like that [15:39]
truffles Diablo-D3 what have u done to make u evil? [15:40]
ThickAsThieves and the teacher marked it up, and said it might imply that i dont think Santa is real [15:40]
ThickAsThieves well... [15:40]
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ThickAsThieves ... [15:41]
ThickAsThieves i was also going to Catechism at that age [15:42]
pankkake which religion is santa? [15:42]
pankkake capitalism? [15:42]
ThickAsThieves so kinda stupid to make religion accusations [15:42]
ThickAsThieves CocaColaism [15:42]
truffles so ure atheist as an adult [15:42]
jurov` I don't believe in Santa Claus. We had Ded Moroz from Siberia instead. [15:43]
ThickAsThieves atheism is too narrow a term [15:43]
truffles agnostic? [15:43]
ThickAsThieves the wonders of the universe remain unexplained [15:43]
truffles after some years the science changes.. [15:44]
pankkake I believe I am God, you're just part of my imagination [15:44]
ThickAsThieves "the more I study science, the more I believe in God" [15:45]
ThickAsThieves who said that [15:45]
truffles i only know teh "I think, therefore I am." [15:45]
ThickAsThieves Einstein [15:45]
truffles overappreciated imo [15:46]
ThickAsThieves probly one of my "if you could have lunch with anyone" targets [15:46]
truffles did he steal some of his discoveries?... [15:46]
truffles id pick Tesla [15:47]
ThickAsThieves "Good artists borrow, great artists steal" [15:47]
ThickAsThieves who said that [15:47]
asciilifeform herr jobs [15:47]
ThickAsThieves Picasso, baby [15:48]
truffles oh thought it was Neal Caffrey [15:48]
ThickAsThieves lol [15:48]
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ThickAsThieves "Neoteny is not necessarily limited to physical features however. Currently, a large minority with perhaps a view of soon becoming majority of English speaking adults exhibit psychological neoteny, the sad state wherein their body has long reached maturity while their mind is still continuing adolescence" [15:50]
ThickAsThieves i assumed this to be majority prevelent for quite some time [15:50]
ThickAsThieves like Amy sorta [15:51]
ThickAsThieves people just frozen in grade/high school [15:51]
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ThickAsThieves mentally [15:51]
ThickAsThieves oh god no [15:52]
ThickAsThieves have you seen all the free thinkers on reddit? [15:52]
pankkake aren't they all in school? [15:53]
ThickAsThieves 35 and in school, probly [15:53]
truffles u hate gays too [15:54]
truffles dam [15:54]
truffles Diablo-D3 then id like to know what u consider normal [15:55]
truffles whats wrong with it [15:56]
truffles i try not to judge [15:58]
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truffles the former christian in me :) [15:58]
ThickAsThieves question, why does nethash measurement vary so greatly among measurers? [15:59]
pankkake reddit common beliefs: 1) we are a nice community 2) academia teaches you everything you need 3) fedoras are cool [15:59]
pankkake what measurers? [15:59]
ThickAsThieves and gribble [15:59]
ozbot Bitcoin Charts / Bitcoin Network [15:59]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [16:00]
gribble 6400549.04237 [16:00]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves look at the age breakdown : [16:00]
mircea_popescu if you exclude under 15 say, it's quite hard for the thin sliver at the bottom to outnumber the fat peak [16:01]
pankkake bitcoinwisdow says "last 504 blocks", don't know for others [16:01]
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ThickAsThieves why dont they all at least note an estimate based on blocks solved since last diff? [16:01]
pankkake well that's not really *current* nethash then [16:02]
mircea_popescu pankkake fedoras are kinda cool tho [16:02]
ThickAsThieves well certainly relevant no? [16:02]
ThickAsThieves yes i also like more recent estimating [16:03]
ThickAsThieves but yknow [16:03]
ThickAsThieves [16:03]
pankkake it depends on what you want to know [16:03]
ThickAsThieves is that gribble's source? [16:03]
pankkake I think gribble uses, because when they're broken he's broken [16:03]
pankkake at least for tslb [16:03]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [16:03]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i suspect they don't include that because it's so easy to calculate on your own [16:03]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 883217070.437 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days [16:03]
mircea_popescu a nm, it actually is included [16:04]
pankkake hats are often a tool of imposters [16:04]
ThickAsThieves so why is this one so off? [16:04]
ThickAsThieves [16:05]
ozbot Bitcoin Charts / Bitcoin Network [16:05]
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mircea_popescu that's copied off sipa's site. why is it off ? [16:06]
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ThickAsThieves Difficulty 707,408,283 [16:06]
ThickAsThieves Next Difficulty [16:06]
ThickAsThieves in 1316 blocks [16:06]
ThickAsThieves 782,843,943 [16:06]
ThickAsThieves Network Hashrate [16:06]
ThickAsThieves Terahashs/s [16:06]
ThickAsThieves 5603.82 [16:06]
ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats [16:06]
gribble Current Blocks: 272860 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1315 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 6 hours, 21 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 883652397.234 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.91406 [16:06]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [16:06]
gribble 6400549.04237 [16:06]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [16:06]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 883652397.234 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days [16:06]
mircea_popescu Next Difficulty Estimate: 883652397.234 == 883652397.234 based on data since last change [16:07]
mircea_popescu and obviously nethash != difficulty. [16:07]
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ThickAsThieves Gribble nethash: 6400549.04237 [16:07]
ThickAsThieves btc charts nethash: 5603.82 [16:07]
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mircea_popescu the 5.6k was at the time of last change [16:08]
mircea_popescu so it's the avg for past 2 weeks ending 13 days ago [16:08]
ThickAsThieves it wasnt 5.6 [16:08]
ThickAsThieves it was like 5 [16:08]
mircea_popescu maybe it's rolling window past 2 weeks ? [16:09]
ThickAsThieves it must be an arbitray sample time [16:09]
ThickAsThieves yeah [16:09]
ThickAsThieves arbitrary* [16:09]
mircea_popescu anyway, the chances to find the actual nethash within an arbitrary precision are a function of that precision. [16:10]
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ThickAsThieves either way, I'd appreciate it if miners kept it to less than 1PH added in the next 3 weeks :) [16:10]
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mircea_popescu o wow shiot look at that, 25% [16:11]
mircea_popescu dude you're toast. [16:11]
ThickAsThieves i accepted that risk at the time [16:11]
ThickAsThieves havent given up hope though [16:11]
ThickAsThieves 1PH is a lot to add [16:12]
mircea_popescu well yeah it's far from cut and dried yet [16:12]
ThickAsThieves hoping this was a burst [16:12]
mircea_popescu tbh it looked unlikely. [16:12]
ThickAsThieves I guess I might have to forgo that new Buick [16:13]
ThickAsThieves hehe [16:13]
dexX7 you're dumping your gpus and started to buy asics? [16:16]
ThickAsThieves me? no way [16:17]
ThickAsThieves mining sux [16:17]
kakobrekla not it blows [16:18]
kakobrekla hot air [16:18]
dexX7 hehe [16:18]
ThickAsThieves there is no blowing without sucking [16:18]
ThickAsThieves other than maybe those Dyson fans [16:19]
dexX7 i bought some gpus, but i somehow feel like a sucker, because now is probably the best time to resell that stuff.. maybe i'll even do likewise before it arrives. a 7950 on ebay is worth 250-300+ eur here :D [16:21]
kakobrekla O_o [16:22]
mircea_popescu 300 euros ?! wtf. [16:23]
mircea_popescu it's an old card. [16:23]
kakobrekla apparently euro is not worth anything any more [16:23]
dexX7 older, yes, but hash/watt efficient [16:24]
dexX7 hehe [16:24]
pankkake and they're not made anymore [16:24]
mircea_popescu but i mean... wait, they;re not being bought to be used as gamingdevices ? [16:25]
mircea_popescu people still buythem to mine ? [16:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.35074922 = 2.806 BTC [-] {3} [16:26]
dexX7 yes [16:26]
pankkake right now probably, given that the R9 generation doesn't look much more costly… [16:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35099897 BTC [+] [16:27]
pankkake litecoin mining diff finally went up after months of ups and downs [16:27]
mircea_popescu so basically if asics had never happened, bitcoin diff would be 10k [16:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00195 = 0.1092 BTC [-] [16:30]
pankkake yeah. and dead [16:31]
mircea_popescu is anyone fpga-ing litecoin yet ? [16:31]
dexX7 afaik it's not very efficient [16:31]
dexX7 compared to gpus [16:32]
mircea_popescu cause nobody wrote a proper chip yet ? [16:32]
mircea_popescu a, the ram issue. [16:32]
dexX7 you want to have a lot of fast accessible memory [16:33]
dexX7 yup [16:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35099897 BTC [+] [16:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5053 @ 0.00080601 = 4.0728 BTC [+] [16:39]
TomServo mircea_popescu: Neither of those search requests return any results for me. [16:41]
mircea_popescu now that's odd [16:41]
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TomServo I thought so too. [16:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35099897 BTC [+] [16:41]
mircea_popescu whoa. me either,. [16:42]
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mircea_popescu ;;google epifania [16:42]
gribble ...: [16:42]
ozbot The OCR lol of today pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [16:42]
mircea_popescu THAT however shows me the article topmost. [16:42]
mircea_popescu << and on a proxy too. [16:43]
ozbot epifania - Google Search [Anonymoused] [16:43]
mircea_popescu i guess we don't quite fathom the extent to which google is manipulating results. [16:43]
ThickAsThieves i have a google killer idea i dont have the means to implement [16:44]
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TomServo Huh. Evidently. First among 51 results when searching via proxy for me. [16:45]
ThickAsThieves i debated writing it all up and doing a kickstarter, but i truly wnat nothing to do with running a search co [16:45]
ThickAsThieves maybe wtite it up and slel it to Yahoo [16:45]
ThickAsThieves and hire a copy editor too [16:45]
ThickAsThieves hehe [16:45]
mircea_popescu TomServo i suppose if you're going to censor, this is actually the correct approach : block specific searches, but index the material. [16:46]
mircea_popescu this way actual researchers can still do their work, and it remains accessible to those deemed "legitimate" of the public, [16:46]
mircea_popescu not so unlike how universities worked since abour 1200 [16:47]
ThickAsThieves "That feature has lead to an inflationary bubble in bitcoin-to-dollar trading, with prices fluctuating largely from one day to the next. As fewer bitcoins become available through mining, new entrants in the market may be limited, making it more difficult for the currency to increase its overall float." [16:47]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves : [16:47]
ThickAsThieves "The increasing cost of relaying transactions may end up making the currency too expensive to manage outside of a small group of users. " [16:47]
mircea_popescu teh ppl be figuring it out a year later, and after the fact. [16:47]
ThickAsThieves quotes from [16:48]
ThickAsThieves dammit my trilema cookie died again [16:48]
mircea_popescu must keep teh cookies fresh! [16:49]
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ThickAsThieves ah ive read this article more than once [16:51]
mircea_popescu tristan louis brumhilda von forbes has not :D [16:52]
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ThickAsThieves "One of them is that consumers yield and submit, Bitcoin goes to somewhere in the thousand dollars per range and there’s a rush to move society away from the dysfunctional standard. Banks start taking Bitcoin deposits, Bitcoin hedge funds pop up everywhere..." [16:54]
ThickAsThieves i hate you for being so damn right sometimes [16:55]
mircea_popescu :) [16:58]
mircea_popescu i disclaim all liability. [16:59]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 107 @ 0.00206073 = 0.2205 BTC [+] {2} [17:00]
ThickAsThieves still waiting for the Feds to kiss your ring tho [17:01]
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ThickAsThieves “This is the environment where Bitcoin could go to $1m. There is no qualitative reason, but it is trending. If I could own Bitcoin, I would. If I own 3D printing, it is just the same thing” [17:03]
ThickAsThieves [17:03]
ozbot Hendry: I would buy Bitcoin if I could [17:03]
ThickAsThieves Hendry added equity market fundamentals do not matter at a time when policy is misaligned, emphasising instead the ‘feedback loops’ created by US quantitative easing. [17:03]
ThickAsThieves more decent words in there too [17:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.001952 = 0.1952 BTC [+] [17:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00205658 = 0.1645 BTC [+] {2} [17:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [-] [17:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [-] [17:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00206538 = 0.1136 BTC [+] {2} [17:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.34001002 = 1.36 BTC [+] {3} [17:58]
ThickAsThieves [17:58]
ozbot KnC Sells $8 Million In Miners - Business Insider [17:58]
ThickAsThieves "Lawn also claims KnC customers already create 70% of the bitcoins mined in a day. We can't verify that claim." [17:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 176 @ 0.0020666 = 0.3637 BTC [+] {3} [18:03]
kakobrekla [18:06]
kakobrekla dafuq is dis shit [18:06]
kakobrekla also link dont work. [18:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00207739 = 0.2389 BTC [+] [18:06]
kakobrekla •Users will have the opportunity to list their real companies on Seventh Continent Market starting III.Q.2014. [18:06]
kakobrekla what is this glbse #5 [18:07]
kakobrekla ininininception [18:07]
nubbins` morning [18:07]
kakobrekla heya [18:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.33713866 = 1.3486 BTC [-] {3} [18:08]
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ThickAsThieves [18:12]
ThickAsThieves IPOz! [18:12]
nubbins` i don't get it [18:13]
nubbins` is it like farmville for walmart products? [18:13]
ThickAsThieves hrm i need to decipher this [18:13]
nubbins` certainly can't do so via their "info" website :( [18:14]
nubbins` i thought there already were seven continents, anyway? [18:15]
ThickAsThieves best i can tell, [18:15]
ThickAsThieves it's Second Life [18:15]
kakobrekla lol [18:15]
nubbins` nod [18:15]
nubbins` When real money for digital goods with no return loses its shine, a skill based market place where players accumulate fame and fortune stands a chance of being a real success. [18:16]
nubbins` ah, so farmville with leaderboards [18:16]
ThickAsThieves "When real money for digital goods with no return loses its shine" [18:17]
ThickAsThieves priceless [18:17]
nubbins` "when you get tired of wasting money, console yourself with your huge in-game rep and 3d friends [18:18]
ThickAsThieves would be nice to have a gameplay vid or more cogent explanation of what it is [18:18]
nubbins` yeah, brutal document [18:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00081374 = 5.8182 BTC [+] [18:19]
ThickAsThieves offering is 250000 @ .0077 [18:19]
ThickAsThieves no info on what each share represents [18:20]
ll ;;calc 0.0077*250000 [18:21]
gribble 1925 [18:21]
nubbins` $2mn [18:21]
ThickAsThieves yep [18:21]
ThickAsThieves ;;calc 1925*1130 [18:21]
gribble 2175250 [18:21]
ThickAsThieves any guesses on what % of the co that represents? [18:25]
ThickAsThieves I'm gonna say 25% [18:25]
ThickAsThieves oh i found more info [18:26]
ThickAsThieves [18:26]
ThickAsThieves heh, [18:26]
ThickAsThieves the 250k shares represent 8.25% of the co [18:27]
ThickAsThieves 23,100btc valuation [18:27]
ThickAsThieves ;;calc 23100*1130 [18:27]
gribble 26103000 [18:27]
ThickAsThieves fuck me [18:28]
ThickAsThieves they call it a IPFO [18:28]
ThickAsThieves no one wants to use my IPVO term :( [18:28]
kakobrekla i dunno why you all feel the need to stick extra letters inthere [18:29]
kakobrekla its silly. [18:29]
ThickAsThieves its a legal thing [18:30]
mike_c see, the extra letter will protect you from the authorities [18:31]
kakobrekla yes, V makes it all legal. [18:31]
ThickAsThieves cuz idiots may claim they thought it would be a real wall st IPO or such [18:31]
kakobrekla lulz [18:31]
mike_c they will be like, "ohhhh, it was *virtual*" [18:31]
ThickAsThieves well no [18:31]
mike_c i can't figure out what the F stands for [18:31]
kakobrekla V stands for Vendatta [18:31]
ThickAsThieves the V is for virtual currency [18:31]
kakobrekla Vendetta [18:31]
kakobrekla or whatever [18:32]
ThickAsThieves Fund [18:32]
ThickAsThieves cmon [18:32]
mike_c ah [18:32]
ThickAsThieves Havelock calls everything a Fund [18:32]
mike_c of course, it's a fund, not a company. perfect sense. [18:32]
kakobrekla initial public vendetta offering [18:32]
kakobrekla completley legal. [18:32]
mike_c havelock has strange meanings for a lot of terms [18:32]
ThickAsThieves there are real names and headshots in the PDF [18:32]
ThickAsThieves and linkedin links [18:32]
kakobrekla oh that changes everything, headshots. [18:33]
mike_c one of them has a suit and tie on. i'm sold. [18:33]
kakobrekla run if you see beard [18:33]
ThickAsThieves no beards [18:33]
ThickAsThieves but one guy has two first names AND a suit [18:34]
nubbins` michael scott? [18:34]
kakobrekla the whole thing is silly. [18:34]
mike_c the ceo spent 14 years as a lecturer. no tenure for him! [18:34]
kakobrekla more letters more coolness [18:36]
kakobrekla same as with share count. [18:37]
nubbins` [18:45]
ozbot 2013 0 5 BTC Brass Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed | eBay [18:45]
nubbins` hi goat [18:45]
ThickAsThieves so it's just a piece of imprinted brass? [18:47]
nubbins` lel [18:47]
nubbins` yes [18:47]
ThickAsThieves lel indeed [18:47]
ThickAsThieves good for you though! [18:47]
nubbins` good for the guy who was buying redeemed coins hand-over-fist on the forums a few months back [18:48]
ThickAsThieves better than if he bought real btc? [18:50]
ThickAsThieves i'm skeptical [18:50]
ThickAsThieves but possible i guess [18:50]
nubbins` yeah [18:50]
nubbins` i can't imagine he paid more than $10-20 per [18:50]
nubbins` and they seem to be selling on ebay for $140+, regardless of denomination [18:50]
ThickAsThieves scam ammo is what they are [18:51]
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ThickAsThieves scammo [18:52]
dexX7 not cool [18:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34999988 = 0.7 BTC [+] {2} [18:54]
nubbins` at first i thought it was just idiots not realizing they were unfunded [19:03]
nubbins` but i mean, i put REDEEMED in the title [19:03]
nubbins` and one third of the item description is in big red letters saying "NO HOLOGRAM, NO BITCOINS" [19:03]
ThickAsThieves it's pretty explicit in the description [19:03]
nubbins` heh [19:03]
nubbins` honestly, i think it's people that fully understand what they're buying [19:04]
nubbins` and we're just underestimating the demand for them within the general public [19:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 284 @ 0.00328249 = 0.9322 BTC [-] {19} [19:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5031 @ 0.00010127 = 0.5095 BTC [-] {13} [19:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 32 @ 0.02654311 = 0.8494 BTC [-] {14} [19:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1400 @ 0.00009617 = 0.1346 BTC [-] {4} [19:08]
dexX7 well it says "physical bitcoin ... containing no bitcoin" [19:08]
ThickAsThieves is replaced with text update [19:08]
ThickAsThieves Maintenance in progress. Thank you for your patience. [19:09]
ThickAsThieves The website will be back online after all changes have been completed and checked on or by Dec 4th for viewing and records. [19:09]
ThickAsThieves of course i have pending xfers i cant verify... [19:09]
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ThickAsThieves (migrations) [19:10]
nubbins` dexX7: wasn't sure what else to call them, also, you'd need to be full retard to assume it contains value [19:11]
nubbins` gotta draw the line somewhere, otherwise you end up having your description read "DO NOT heat this coin with a blowtorch for a half hour and lay it on the tip of your penis" etc [19:12]
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dexX7 well i rather think the buy just has no clue [19:12]
dexX7 "it's a bitcoin, i want it" [19:13]
nubbins` shrug, there's only so much i can do [19:13]
nubbins` i'm just trying to serve the legitimate brass token collector market [19:13]
dexX7 huh? [19:13]
dexX7 are you the seller? [19:13]
mike_c have you sold any yet? get any bad feedback? [19:13]
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nubbins` heh [19:13]
nubbins` yes, that's my auction [19:13]
dexX7 you're mean [19:14]
nubbins` haven't sold any yet, i was only foolish enough to peel the holo off one [19:14]
nubbins` dexX7: i am not! [19:14]
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dexX7 also selling overpriced preorder items :p [19:14]
nubbins` read the description [19:14]
mike_c you'll know what they are thinking by whether they flame you on ebay [19:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3214 @ 0.00009518 = 0.3059 BTC [-] {8} [19:14]
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nubbins` a full one-third of the three-line description is in bright red [19:14]
dexX7 haha no, it's fine. as you said, you are filling the demand. [19:14]
nubbins` i tried to retard-proof it as best i could [19:14]
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nubbins` and i have, in fact, had a few people cancel their bids [19:15]
dexX7 the only misleading line is "physical bitcoin" imo [19:15]
dexX7 though people tried similar stuff earlier.. like selling "iphone box without iphone inside" and got burned [19:15]
nubbins` ah, i see what you're saying [19:16]
nubbins` not sure how better to describe it tho [19:16]
nubbins` 2013 0.5 btc brass casascius round that has a bitcoin logo on it - REDEEMED [19:16]
dexX7 lol [19:16]
nubbins` know what i mean? [19:16]
dexX7 yea [19:16]
ThickAsThieves Bitcoin Souvenir? [19:16]
dexX7 collectors item [19:17]
dexX7 instead of souvenir [19:17]
ThickAsThieves Great way to scam noobs! Buy now! [19:17]
nubbins` heh [19:17]
dexX7 hmm.. casascius calls them physical bitcoins, too [19:17]
nubbins` dexX7: :) [19:17]
nubbins` even though some of them are only physical half-bitcoins! [19:18]
ThickAsThieves you can go to the ghetto and sell them as "stolen bitcoins" [19:18]
ThickAsThieves real cheap! [19:18]
nubbins` heh [19:18]
dexX7 "Good condition, was only recently redeemed." ... as if the redemption date is linked to the condition :p [19:18]
nubbins` dexX7: i ran out of things to say ;( [19:18]
dexX7 i think this was intentional [19:19]
nubbins` ThickAsThieves: the real money would be in coating steel slugs in gold leaf and calling them "unfunded gold coins" [19:19]
dexX7 what would you do if a buyer contacts you in 1-2 weeks and tells you that he had no clue? [19:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00311741 = 0.1902 BTC [-] {2} [19:20]
nubbins` dexX7: i'd invite him to read the item description [19:20]
nubbins` and if he feels he's been wronged, to open a dispute claim [19:21]
dexX7 woah lol is full of x-coins [19:21]
nubbins` not much else i can do :) [19:21]
nubbins` oh wow, it really is, hey? [19:22]
dexX7 time for a new category like "digital coins" [19:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34998998 = 0.7 BTC [-] [19:22]
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mircea_popescu Hendry added equity market fundamentals do not matter << he has a point, if perhaps sorely misstated. [19:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00311122 = 0.1276 BTC [-] {3} [19:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00311 = 0.1555 BTC [-] [19:29]
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mircea_popescu what would you do if a buyer contacts you in 1-2 weeks and tells you that he had no clue? <<< point him to bitbet faq ? [19:30]
dexX7 haha yea [19:30]
dexX7 i was thinking about you when i raised the q :D [19:31]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, [19:31]
nubbins` [19:31]
ozbot Romanian Villagers Managed to Keep Fracking Out of Their Backyard | VICE United States [19:31]
ThickAsThieves For reference, the final shareholder list (unofficial) [19:32]
ThickAsThieves just in case anyone needs it [19:32]
mircea_popescu tghe final unofficial list ? [19:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.115 = 0.345 BTC [-] [19:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3401002 = 1.0203 BTC [-] [19:32]
mircea_popescu wait. on btctco ?! [19:32]
ThickAsThieves yep [19:33]
ThickAsThieves burnsy kept tabs [19:33]
Apocalyptic "Honey, even Namecoin is "worth something" these days." // can't be believe she actually thinks Namecoin is worse than XRP [19:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.34006363 = 3.7407 BTC [-] {2} [19:33]
ThickAsThieves i only saved my own list for my own securities [19:33]
ThickAsThieves only backed up every 30min [19:34]
ThickAsThieves so it's possible the list is a lil wrong [19:34]
ThickAsThieves if someone did any share xfers in the last 30m [19:34]
ThickAsThieves and of course it's unofficial, so thats another consideration [19:35]
nubbins` y'know, the shitty thing about being a business that accepts bitcoin is that none of my suppliers accept it [19:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11489999 BTC [+] [19:38]
ThickAsThieves which is the real achievement reddites should be going for [19:38]
nubbins` nod [19:38]
mircea_popescu she ?! what female are we discussing ? [19:39]
ThickAsThieves so tired of "I convinced my aunt to accept btc for her maid services!" [19:39]
ThickAsThieves support her and buy some! [19:39]
nubbins` i mean, good for me if i print things for btc; bad for me when i have to immediately cash out btc income in order to pay for inks and paper [19:39]
ThickAsThieves so try [19:40]
nubbins` your logic has no place here! [19:40]
nubbins` ;p [19:40]
nubbins` i don't know of any wholesale suppliers that accept btc [19:41]
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nubbins` in any industry [19:41]
mircea_popescu but if they did accept btc ... it'd be still at the fiat equiv [19:41]
nubbins` well yeah, you're just moving it up a level [19:41]
mircea_popescu the idea is to be fiat rich and just take the losses. [19:41]
thestringpuller fiat rich is so 1800's [19:42]
nubbins` now they're immediately cashing out for fiat too, because the cotton farms don't accept btc [19:42]
thestringpuller nubbins`: you can always store profits in btc [19:42]
ThickAsThieves yes but if you get vendors accepting, you start creating a closed loop [19:42]
nubbins` too true, and in fact we do [19:42]
ThickAsThieves and that coin maybe never becomes fiat [19:42]
nubbins` tat, too true, it's a hard sell tho [19:42]
thestringpuller yea so if you store your profits in coin, and liquidate coins to pay expenses no payable directly by btc what does it really matter? [19:43]
ThickAsThieves a useful service would be one that auto bought ccoins you spent i guess [19:43]
ThickAsThieves but that feels like a band-aid [19:43]
thestringpuller ;;calc (120 - 50) / 120 [19:44]
gribble 0.583333333333 [19:44]
pankkake what kind of industries could be "in a bitcoin loop" the easiest? [19:44]
thestringpuller ;;calc (110 - 50) / 110 [19:44]
gribble 0.545454545455 [19:44]
thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc [19:44]
gribble Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later. [19:45]
nubbins` ah, not really sure [19:45]
thestringpuller $avg [19:45]
mpexbot thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [19:45]
thestringpuller >:( [19:45]
nubbins` the problem is that in any industry, at some point up the chain, you find a business who simply is not willing to take the risk of accepting btc [19:45]
nubbins` fine for small businesses [19:45]
nubbins` large corps have shareholders to answer to [19:45]
nubbins` if they lose their shirts because of a price fluctuation, people lose their jobs [19:45]
nubbins` few people in the corporate world are willing to risk that [19:46]
ThickAsThieves yet they hold fiat! [19:46]
ThickAsThieves :) [19:46]
mircea_popescu since we're doing irrelevant sites : [19:46]
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nubbins` oh, hey, we have an alliance now? [19:46]
nubbins` brutal color scheme, looks like a video game forum [19:47]
ThickAsThieves "merchant outreach" [19:47]
mircea_popescu that's because it IS a videogame forum [19:47]
mircea_popescu bitcoin = videogame gold, online political organisation = forum [19:47]
ThickAsThieves nub ask them wherefor the Vendor Outreach [19:47]
zboralski who played EVE Online here? [19:47]
mircea_popescu zboralski [19:48]
mircea_popescu we're billionaires, you kiddin' ? [19:48]
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zboralski mircea_popescu: that's cool [19:48]
ThickAsThieves hey look, an excuse to visit Canadia [19:48]
ThickAsThieves nub are you East or West? [19:48]
zboralski mircea_popescu: you should advertise on my forums. [19:48]
mircea_popescu sure. [19:49]
zboralski mircea_popescu: I'll give you resident access so you can post. [19:49]
zboralski [19:49]
mircea_popescu nubbins` tyhe best part is the dorklist oops i mean leadership [19:49]
mircea_popescu zboralski where do advertisements go ? [19:50]
zboralski just register and tell me your username... Once you have resident access you can post in the recruitment forum [19:50]
zboralski are you familiar with Kugutsumen? [19:50]
ThickAsThieves "A technical expert with management skills, Pakosh is a serial entrepreneur with a 30-year record of identifying trends" [19:50]
ThickAsThieves "Holmes is the Business Development Manager at CaVirtex, the leading Canadian Bitcoin exchange. " [19:51]
mircea_popescu "The leadership of the Bitcoin Alliance of Canada consists of 6 board members, each being selected by an independent election committee of Bitcoin enthusiasts from across Canada." [19:51]
mircea_popescu zboralski not at all. [19:51]
zboralski I was banned from EVE Online in 2007 [19:51]
ThickAsThieves how can they get consensus without asking nubbins? [19:52]
zboralski Slashdot: "Should MMOG 'Play' Be Confined?" [19:53]
zboralski Slashdot: "CCP Speaks on Allegations of Misconduct in Eve" [19:53]
zboralski Slashdot: "EVE Devs Admit To Misconduct" [19:53]
mircea_popescu so substantively, what was the controversy/misconduct/we ? [19:53]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves they asked their resident delusionist. [19:54]
mircea_popescu there are two types of kings in the world : those who have a collection of various mages, and those who have a delusionist. [19:54]
pankkake you can get banned from a video game? [19:54]
zboralski one of the directors of Band of Brothers was a dev and was cheating by printing tech 2 BPOs [19:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9000 @ 0.00010963 = 0.9867 BTC [+] {5} [19:55]
zboralski pankkake: in that video game... you can have some russian guy come to your house to cut the power and kill you inside the game :D [19:55]
mircea_popescu zboralski o you're the guy that broke the bob / eve thing ? [19:55]
pankkake haha, awesome [19:55]
zboralski mircea_popescu: yes [19:55]
mircea_popescu nice. [19:55]
mircea_popescu the power cutting business did happen, and the ships in question are hardly worth 10 btc. [19:56]
nubbins` ThickAsThieves: as east as you can get [19:56]
TomServo Heh: Detroit eligible for bankruptcy protection: US judge [19:57]
ThickAsThieves cool, i enjoyed my last trip there, but it was a looong time ago, as a touring punk [19:57]
ThickAsThieves i intend to go back [19:57]
nubbins` montreal is where the party is [19:58]
mircea_popescu TomServo why not lol. it [19:58]
mircea_popescu s a sovereign corporation. best of both worlds. [19:58]
zboralski reading your 1BTC post, fun concept... [19:59]
TomServo Ha. I guess why not would be when the rest are pissed they don't get the chance. [19:59]
zboralski definately post it on [19:59]
mircea_popescu anyway, ten ton hammer etc keep sucking eve's cock, i'm curious what will they say once eulora is out. [19:59]
mircea_popescu TomServo but it encourages the rest to simply move to mpex and give the fiat world the finger. [20:00]
diametric ohh eve players. [20:00]
diametric its been a while since I played. [20:00]
zboralski diametric: who did you play with? [20:00]
mircea_popescu zboralski so you still playing ? [20:00]
diametric TEST at it's height [20:00]
diametric was a lot of fun, I also played in Goons as well with a few accounts. [20:00]
diametric I think at my most addictive moment I had almost a dozen accounts going... [20:00]
zboralski nah, I tried at one point but it is not fun if people recognize me I get banned again. [20:01]
TomServo mircea_popescu: Since when do you give anything in the US that much credit? :) [20:01]
mircea_popescu TomServo well, they do have the chance :) [20:01]
zboralski I was in Pandemic Legion... My alt was the executor. [20:01]
mircea_popescu it's mostly so years later when they're butthurt all over the interwebs i can link them to old pages and lol [20:01]
diametric zboralski: oh cool, flew a lot with PL when the HBC was formed [20:01]
diametric fun guys [20:02]
zboralski diametric: do you have an account on kugu? [20:02]
diametric nah i never posted much, was entertaining to read though [20:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 317 @ 0.00206049 = 0.6532 BTC [+] {4} [20:03]
diametric I do miss being in fleets and having a massive blob [20:03]
diametric but I hear TEST has gone to FW after the moon redistribution or whatever.. I haven't played for over a year now. [20:03]
zboralski the last time I played I hijacked a dev account and couldn't figure out how to get out of that Jove system which didn't have any gates. [20:03]
diametric haha [20:04]
nubbins` all this is beyond me [20:04]
nubbins` i'm not bad at mario kart tho D: [20:04]
diametric mircea_popescu: i hear you also play (or played?) some eve. [20:04]
zboralski a lot of people on don't play anymore. [20:04]
zboralski the discussions are fun. [20:04]
diametric the most fun I had was scamming people [20:04]
KRS|gotyawallet hehe [20:05]
mircea_popescu diametric well i run the bitcoin corp thingee. i don't play so much, mostly market stuff. [20:05]
diametric TEST space rental scams. Fountain had some really good ratting and people would pay top dollar to "rent" from me [20:05]
zboralski corp robbery with a freighter was fun too. [20:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00206031 = 0.3976 BTC [-] {3} [20:05]
diametric mircea_popescu: I have a friend like that, I don't think he's been in space except to move between hubs and manage his orders. [20:05]
mircea_popescu i'm often in a shuttle [20:05]
mircea_popescu but w/e, i occasionally fly a mk1 ferrox, just, been kinda busy these motnhs [20:05]
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diametric mircea_popescu: so i hear [20:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.00206489 = 0.3572 BTC [+] {3} [20:06]
mircea_popescu the game is notoriously boring, as far as the actual gameplay goes. [20:06]
mircea_popescu wtf, it's barely at the level of a 1990 atari game. [20:06]
mircea_popescu roughly elite, if you've played that. [20:07]
diametric its the meta games that are fun [20:07]
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mircea_popescu exactly. [20:07]
mircea_popescu [20:07]
ozbot Have you played Elite back in the 80s ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:07]
mircea_popescu they totally should bring back manual docking. [20:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00206479 = 0.3985 BTC [-] {2} [20:08]
nubbins` ;;ud docking [20:08]
gribble | The act of placing the head of ones penis inside the foreskin of another's penis. [20:08]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: docking [20:08]
mircea_popescu ew. [20:08]
nubbins` agreed [20:08]
nubbins` hahaha [20:08]
benkay they'd have to implement proper orbital dynamics first [20:08]
mircea_popescu no dude, attaching your ship to the spacestation. [20:08]
thestringpuller nubbins` come on dude [20:08]
* TomServo shakes head. [20:09]
ThickAsThieves lol [20:09]
mircea_popescu benkay it's funny that the game requires the playerbase to use a lot of math, which the developers themselves can't apply. [20:09]
TomServo No, not that one! [20:09]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: if you want something that realistic you should play kerbal space program [20:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1371 @ 0.00207752 = 2.8483 BTC [+] {5} [20:09]
mircea_popescu elite had it! [20:09]
benkay ksp is brutal. [20:09]
thestringpuller kerbal space program has manual docking :P [20:09]
diametric thestringpuller: KSP is amazing! [20:09]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [20:09]
diametric KSP has manual everything. [20:09]
thestringpuller lol true dat [20:09]
mircea_popescu mgs ? [20:09]
mircea_popescu does it have MGS!!1 [20:10]
nubbins` manual anything is great [20:10]
nubbins` fuck computers [20:10]
nubbins` seriously, have you ever taken pictures with a holga? [20:10]
mircea_popescu nubbins` good luck with your tomograph. [20:10]
mircea_popescu and no, i had a smecma. [20:10]
nubbins` ah, no, i don't get sick [20:10]
nubbins` judging by past perfmance, i'll never need one [20:11]
nubbins` ;| [20:11]
thestringpuller ;;google mgs [20:11]
gribble METAL GEAR SOLID: ; Metal Gear Solid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; MGS: Stainless steel Eco-friendly Faucets for the Kitchen, Bath and ...: [20:11]
thestringpuller that's what mgs means to me [20:11]
thestringpuller and most people :P [20:11]
mircea_popescu mgs = manual genital stimulation. [20:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 122 @ 0.00212179 = 0.2589 BTC [+] {3} [20:12]
mircea_popescu << and this is the smena. [20:12]
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nubbins` lel [20:13]
nubbins` it has mgs AND docking?! [20:13]
nubbins` s/manual/mutual [20:13]
mircea_popescu even winding is separated from shutter cocking! [20:13]
nubbins` yah, same w/ holga [20:14]
nubbins` take a triple exposure, advance a half-frame, take a double, etc [20:14]
nubbins` such fun [20:15]
nubbins` you could load 35mm and expose images over the sprocket holes [20:15]
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mircea_popescu you could actually use cinematic 35mm film too, [20:16]
mircea_popescu or you could make your own [20:16]
benkay man [20:16]
benkay you guys actually like fucking around with atoms [20:16]
benkay i don't get it [20:16]
benkay the only atoms i want to fuck with are warm and concave [20:16]
kakobrekla the pussy element? [20:17]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla hey was that chick in fifth element somalian too ? [20:17]
benkay Va [20:17]
mircea_popescu mila jovovich [20:17]
kakobrekla from the south [20:17]
kakobrekla im like fucking north to them! [20:18]
mircea_popescu haha [20:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.0021249 = 0.1232 BTC [-] {2} [20:18]
mircea_popescu She considers herself both Russian and Montenegrin [20:18]
mircea_popescu shouldn't it be montenegrette ? [20:18]
kakobrekla :)) [20:18]
kakobrekla yep [20:18]
mircea_popescu she could sing non, je ne regrete rien [20:19]
mircea_popescu pas meme etre montenegrette... [20:19]
KRS|gotyawallet that bitch from 5th element was fawking hawt [20:19]
kakobrekla Keefe kleeck kleinessteak knotwork KRS|gotyawallet Kushed [20:19]
kakobrekla baked only once though [20:19]
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KRS|gotyawallet any more dting? [20:19]
mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet only while pubescent. luc besson got obsessed with her, cast her as joan of arc and she sucked balls. [20:19]
KRS|gotyawallet rly [20:19]
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KRS|gotyawallet they all go to hell after that period i guess [20:20]
KRS|gotyawallet almost [20:20]
KRS|gotyawallet did she ever do pron [20:20]
pankkake like Natalie Portman? [20:20]
mircea_popescu nothing public. [20:20]
KRS|gotyawallet natalie portman had that submissive thing going [20:21]
mircea_popescu anyway, getting back on topic for just a moment, from what i'm seeing the internet metal bugs are actually beginning to move to crypto. [20:21]
mircea_popescu their butthurt at their idol's failure having just about healed past denial [20:21]
pankkake I've been infiltrating a private silverbug forum [20:22]
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Apocalyptic pankkake, let us know how it goes [20:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 213 @ 0.002125 = 0.4526 BTC [+] [20:25]
benkay i want there to be at least 3 btc-related jewelry providers [20:25]
benkay that way i can split a wallet across 3 items of decorate [20:26]
benkay drape each on a babe [20:26]
benkay and ball bitcoin [20:26]
KRS|gotyawallet [20:31]
ozbot Natalie Portman Bent Over Nude [20:31]
KRS|gotyawallet you can almost smell it [20:31]
pankkake lol no [20:31]
pankkake natalie portman doesn't do much for me - except in Léon [20:32]
kleeck Oh, when she's 12? [20:32]
kleeck That's telling. [20:32]
KRS|gotyawallet haha [20:32]
KRS|gotyawallet she was hawt during star wars [20:32]
pankkake I am pretty sure she was in the wet dreams of many boys at that time [20:33]
pankkake she was boring in star wars [20:34]
pankkake and that scene in the fields… wtf [20:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.002125 = 0.2656 BTC [+] [20:34]
mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet that's not her, get outta here. [20:38]
mircea_popescu pankkake i dunno, that little boy look... [20:38]
pankkake I don't remember her like that [20:39]
pankkake [20:39]
pankkake she even has a collar! [20:39]
mircea_popescu it s a choker lol [20:41]
mircea_popescu but yeah, i guess i must have confused it with some other movie [20:41]
kleeck Yeah. I'm not arroused by that image. [20:42]
pankkake yeah choker. well, still, I like chokers :) [20:42]
pankkake me neither. it's a sentimal thing [20:42]
mircea_popescu chokers are cool. [20:42]
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mircea_popescu chokers, corsets, garters an' heels. [20:42]
mircea_popescu stephengandel welcome. [20:43]
pankkake garters is the only thing I don't like [20:43]
pankkake they look stupid [20:44]
pankkake ands give me an "old" feeling [20:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11199999 BTC [-] [20:44]
benkay stephengandel: just lurking? [20:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.1135 = 0.227 BTC [+] {2} [20:45]
mircea_popescu ;;bcstats [20:46]
gribble Current Blocks: 272883 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1292 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868573144.388 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.78244 [20:46]
mircea_popescu benkay he's probably not found the bottom bar to type in yet [20:46]
mircea_popescu give the man time :D [20:46]
benkay the internet is for user interfaces [20:47]
benkay /sarcasm [20:47]
mircea_popescu pankkake [20:48]
stephengandel You are right. Got it now. Hello. [20:48]
stephengandel rereading FAQ before I ask question [20:48]
mircea_popescu stephengandel don't sweat it, the internet is for [20:49]
mircea_popescu trying shit out. [20:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00212498 = 0.2486 BTC [+] {3} [20:49]
pankkake I collect actual scientific evidence like [20:50]
mircea_popescu actual science from ? [20:50]
mircea_popescu got a lot of daily mail in your treasure chest ? [20:50]
stephengandel Is the fee to open an account still 30 BTCs? [20:50]
mircea_popescu yes. [20:51]
pankkake how about MIT?! [20:51]
benkay there are brokers, though stephengandel [20:51]
mircea_popescu pankkake this is why you keep a bottle of nice cognac or tuica or w/e on hand. [20:52]
stephengandel So, $30,000? Can you short bitcoins through a broker? [20:52]
thestringpuller ................. [20:53]
thestringpuller *palm to face* [20:53]
thestringpuller lol [20:53]
thestringpuller [20:53]
kleeck "But, as with many things in life, you have to just suck it up and do it, which is why I’m here to make a case for swallowing spooge." [20:53]
pankkake options are available through the broker [20:53]
benkay yup. MPOE prices options on bitcoins. [20:53]
mircea_popescu stephengandel depends of what your idea of shorting bitcoins is like. but you can buy puts through a broker, yes. [20:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.002125 = 0.1275 BTC [+] [20:54]
thestringpuller jurov may let you short on margin [20:54]
benkay stephengandel: for example. but note that the option is on lots of .1 btc [20:54]
mircea_popescu i think namworld was doing it at some point at least. [20:54]
benkay stephengandel: to clarify thestringpuller's comment, jurov runs [20:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.0008116 = 20.29 BTC [-] {5} [20:56]
mircea_popescu $avg [20:57]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [20:57]
mircea_popescu hm. [20:57]
mircea_popescu !ticker [20:57]
assbot How can I be of assistance, my poor man? [20:57]
mircea_popescu jesus the whole system is breaking down. [20:57]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [20:57]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1137.20838, Best ask: 1137.99994, Bid-ask spread: 0.79156, Last trade: 1137.99994, 24 hour volume: 23590.84962476, 24 hour low: 1046.99999, 24 hour high: 1185.77338, 24 hour vwap: 1115.72103 [20:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 174 @ 0.00212899 = 0.3704 BTC [+] {2} [20:58]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell smickles hey, tactm changed bitcoincharts api json url cause he could. gotta use now [20:58]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.000575 = 0.575 BTC [+] {2} [21:00]
TomServo ;;bc,xau [21:02]
gribble 1 XAU = 1221.600000000000 USD = 1.05419399379 BTC [21:02]
mircea_popescu stephengandel you know, you write a lot. i thought the job of the senior editor is more along the lines of throwing out the hard work of all the junior editors. [21:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 666 @ 0.0021362 = 1.4227 BTC [+] {2} [21:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 524 @ 0.00214775 = 1.1254 BTC [+] {5} [21:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1942 @ 0.00228754 = 4.4424 BTC [+] {4} [21:06]
stephengandel should be. Sorry just got a call from an unhappy Wall Street PR guy. [21:06]
stephengandel reading again now. [21:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 894 @ 0.00244619 = 2.1869 BTC [+] {8} [21:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.0024743 = 0.5666 BTC [+] {3} [21:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56443 @ 0.00081489 = 45.9948 BTC [+] {2} [21:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4557 @ 0.00081642 = 3.7204 BTC [+] [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.00247999 = 0.434 BTC [+] {3} [21:10]
mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [21:14]
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assbot 123! [21:14]
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nubbins` 796 [21:15]
assbot 123! [21:15]
nubbins` amazing 796 [21:16]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [21:16]
assbot 123! [21:16]
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mircea_popescu omg leave britney alone. [21:16]
nubbins` lel [21:16]
jborkl Where is the amazing company? [21:18]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [21:18]
nubbins` !quote 2 [21:19]
assbot Quote: [21:19]
nubbins` ah, oh well [21:19]
mircea_popescu bah these forum digests are indigest. [21:23]
mircea_popescu you know i think the drama engine is getting old. [21:23]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Maybe swap out the motor with one from a dump truck? Might make the drama more fun to drive. [21:26]
mircea_popescu it strikes me that maybe not many years later we will look upon the early days with nostalgia, drowned in a sea of banal crap. [21:27]
mircea_popescu and like the proverbial soviet geezers we'll go "do you remember how great it was back when it was horribly bad ?" [21:27]
jborkl I can sum it up for you 1. I can't get my blade to hash 2. I lost ma bitcoin 3. I have a amazing company (give me bitcoin) [21:28]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [21:28]
jacksbueller jamespeerless jborkl jcpham Jere_Jones Jezzz joesmoe jordandotdev jurov` [21:28]
mircea_popescu jborkl pretty much. [21:28]
mircea_popescu the redditization of bitcoin drama [21:28]
pankkake 2. I lost my bitcoin PLEASE DONATE [21:29]
jborkl ^ [21:29]
jborkl legal fund PLEASE DONATE [21:29]
mircea_popescu pankkake you know, i should prolly have pr make a trhead, MPOE BONDS LOST 3K LAST MONTH~!11 plz donate. [21:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00247999 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2} [21:29]
pankkake who's crazy enough to fund these? [21:30]
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mircea_popescu pankkake i think some of the older people with actual wallets send a little just out of sheer trollery [21:30]
mircea_popescu say a bitcent or w/e [21:30]
jborkl Mechs is trying to sell his just-dice acct, the investor balance is -478 ~ [21:32]
kakobrekla lolwat [21:32]
Apocalyptic sounds legit [21:32]
mircea_popescu !jd [21:32]
assbot Just-Dice stat: 8816 BTC profit, 50.8k BTC invested, 315.35 mio bets, 4.55 mio BTC wagered [21:32]
jborkl yeah, so the first 478 of profit is non commision [21:32]
mircea_popescu ah ah [21:33]
mircea_popescu so the value there is 1% of 478 btc minus whatever discount ? [21:33]
mircea_popescu this is more than the average car. [21:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00247999 = 0.1488 BTC [-] [21:33]
jborkl 10% i think is the commision rate [21:33]
mircea_popescu o they hiked it ? [21:33]
mircea_popescu then it's definitely more than the average car. [21:33]
jborkl yeah, a few months ago [21:34]
jborkl so ~48 btc [21:34]
mircea_popescu wait. it stands at ~9k profit with 10% fees?! [21:34]
mircea_popescu o wait nm, the 10% out of the 1% huh. [21:34]
jborkl yes [21:34]
jborkl so, it would require a large investment to make it worth buying for any amount [21:35]
jborkl so, not a bad deal for that scenario [21:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 507 @ 0.00247999 = 1.2574 BTC [-] {4} [21:35]
mike_c is it safe to login to the forums again? [21:36]
kakobrekla it was prolly never safe [21:36]
mircea_popescu well... as safe as it's ever been... [21:36]
kakobrekla first. [21:36]
mircea_popescu dammit [21:36]
kakobrekla !b 6 [21:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.03732936 = 37.3294 BTC [-] [21:36]
pankkake not safe for your brain. yet again we have a guy who thinks btc "inaccessible" and thus wants altcoins. and another guy who wants to buy a miner. both never had any bitcoin [21:37]
pankkake can we just switch to mbtc? [21:37]
benkay satoshis. [21:38]
kakobrekla a handfulls [21:38]
mircea_popescu that was fast. [21:38]
benkay the limit of the process is inevitable. [21:38]
BingoBoingo Fuck, let's switch to mSatoshis and have the media talk about how much Bitcoin crashed [21:38]
mircea_popescu pankkake looky. some people think mpex is inaccesible and so go flock on btctctetc [21:38]
mircea_popescu this isn;'t a bad thing. [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C110T] 1850 @ 0.03662533 = 67.7569 BTC [-] {2} [21:38]
pankkake not the same at all. you don't need one bitcoin [21:38]
pankkake but you need one mpex [21:39]
mircea_popescu who doesn't need a bitcoin ? [21:39]
jborkl it is funny how people still bitch about the way MPEX looks [21:39]
mircea_popescu is this going to be some sort of "all you need is love" thing ? [21:39]
mike_c is mechs trustworthy? no wot with that name. [21:39]
pankkake :/ [21:40]
jborkl flying rainbow unicorn [21:40]
mircea_popescu jborkl can you imagine how the nyse would look if they'd get a call in the matter ? [21:40]
mircea_popescu obamacare v2. [21:40]
jborkl yeah, no shit [21:40]
jborkl gotta make the graphics look good, oh wat it doesnt work- amazing graphics [21:40]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [21:40]
pankkake [21:40]
mike_c "no reserve" != "starting bid is 4btc" [21:41]
kleeck .d [21:41]
ozbot 707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1278 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.7106% in 6d 18h 25m 42s [21:41]
mircea_popescu mike_c they do this thing where they announce a "starting bid" but it's not the actual starting bid [21:41]
mircea_popescu i've seen this. [21:41]
jborkl Mike, it does not matter if he is trustworthy- just have dooglus hold the escrow [21:42]
mircea_popescu in this parallel universe you can have an auction with a "starting bid" of 1 and a "reserve" of 10 which means that unless it reaches 10 the item doesn't sell. [21:42]
mike_c ok, thanks [21:42]
pankkake well, that's the ebay universe [21:42]
mike_c mircea_popescu: sometimes they take the reserve off if it isn't met [21:42]
pankkake secret reserves are so annoying [21:42]
mike_c so there can be value in bidding under the reserve [21:42]
mircea_popescu mike_c should be a crime if you ask me. [21:43]
mike_c yeah, its dumb [21:43]
mircea_popescu anyway, i was once with this chick who actually lived off going to no name auctions [21:43]
mircea_popescu and buying crap she resold in her shop and online [21:43]
mircea_popescu i nearly fell over laughing, all the housewives being all business-serious and bidding a hundred on some lamp [21:43]
mircea_popescu more like a tupperware party than an auction, but anyway. [21:44]
pankkake well, she provides some convenience for buyers, it's valuable [21:44]
pankkake once I bought a full pc, I accidentaly broke the motherboard, sold off the parts, got more money :| [21:44]
kakobrekla lol [21:44]
mircea_popescu pankkake the people filling captchas by hand also provide some convenience for some buyers. [21:44]
mike_c pc arbitrage, nice. [21:44]
kakobrekla you should break more stuff [21:45]
mircea_popescu i'll beat that story : a major romanian retailer bought ~100 laptops off a competitor, which the competitor was selling discounted, [21:45]
mircea_popescu to return on their own (more permissive) return policy. [21:45]
pankkake but it's also how you sell it. if you're a trusted seller, have nice pics, description, it gets higher [21:45]
mircea_popescu this was done by the actual owner packing the laptops in his own personal car. [21:45]
mircea_popescu i think the total loot for this grand scheme was around 5k or so. [21:46]
pankkake haha. that's why retailers usually put max orders and only allow individuals [21:46]
mircea_popescu myeah. HP could simply not believe the story. [21:46]
mircea_popescu "nigga, they did what ?!" [21:46]
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mircea_popescu anywya. there's definitely a living to be earned doing this sort of hussling. [21:47]
mircea_popescu a lot of busywork it is. [21:47]
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benkay true of most real-world arbitrage [21:55]
dexX7 hmmm [21:56]
mircea_popescu benkay depends. consider the famous case of the ltcm [21:56]
stephengandel OK. So if I am going to short one bitcoin, or a fraction of a bitcoin, it makes more sense for me to go through a broker than do it with MPeX. Is that right? [21:56]
kleeck [21:56]
ozbot China Exclusive: China detains Bitcoin fraud suspects - NZweek [21:56]
mircea_popescu o hey. [21:56]
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mircea_popescu stephengandel if your budged is in the bitcoin range, and your technical sophistication low you are best served by a bitcoin. [21:57]
mircea_popescu think of mpex as the nyse, which is what it is. for most purposes you won't acquire a seat in the pit. [21:57]
mike_c *served by a broker [21:57]
mircea_popescu mike_c oops right. [21:57]
stephengandel gotcha [21:57]
BingoBoingo stephengandel: Yup. Coinbr, the broker does their opions on MPEx. As Mircea says though just holding the bitcoin may be the wiser course of action. [21:58]
mircea_popescu "A 29-year-old suspect surnamed Liu allegedly began operating GBL trading platform on May 27 of this year, according to police in Dongyang City in east China’s Zhejiang Province." [21:58]
mircea_popescu kleeck kickass. [21:58]
kleeck :) [21:58]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo if he expects a drop then holding the bitcoin isn't particularly wise. [21:58]
kleeck Hope to soon have a similar article involving Armandi and Tatti. :D [21:59]
stephengandel gotcha. Will give it a try and let you know how it goes. [21:59]
stephengandel Do you think bitcoins will drop? [21:59]
mircea_popescu stephengandel you can also review the mpex monthly reports to see about how option trading has fared historically. a count of sold/bought contracts by the bot is provided in each [21:59]
dexX7 they were quite fast. shut down oct 26, not even 2 months later some results [21:59]
mircea_popescu stephengandel someone sold a lot of calls short yesterday, right before the drop. [21:59]
benkay stephengandel: this is a channel of people who expect bitcoin to be the world reserve currency. [21:59]
mircea_popescu it proved do be only temporary, they may end up with a loss. [21:59]
mircea_popescu it's a very volatile market. [22:00]
mircea_popescu dexX7 if the chinese also shoot them, i'll be very impressed. [22:00]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Of course. In daytrading adventures though I was burned in february waiting for a crash or Flashcrash that never happened. Nao I hedge and bet to hedge, but largely hold things. [22:00]
mircea_popescu makes sense. [22:01]
jcpham [22:01]
ozbot fuck.bitcoin. | Damn this magic internet money [22:02]
jcpham work in progress [22:02]
BingoBoingo What is happening nao reminds me of when we passed silver dangling just below that target. Except now there isn't an Usagi swearing it won't happen. [22:02]
mircea_popescu yay. did you make it ? [22:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.16199349 = 0.324 BTC [+] [22:02]
kakobrekla [22:02]
kakobrekla dude [22:02]
kakobrekla i bought one for 5 [22:02]
kakobrekla or was it 3 [22:02]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i just remembered that the usagi fellow was all over the many evil people who i was payying to contradict him. [22:02]
jcpham share your story [22:03]
kakobrekla dis shit is not funny to me! [22:03]
mircea_popescu i should have the girl dig that up [22:03]
jcpham once the contact page works [22:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.16199349 = 0.324 BTC [+] [22:03]
stephengandel Sorry to be stupid about this: where can I see that someone sold calls? where are the monthly mpex reports? Which one of the contracts on your site should I be looking at? [22:03]
jcpham this has only been a thing for about an hour now [22:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.1619935 = 1.134 BTC [+] [22:04]
pankkake thankfully I never went further. but I remember the response "you are beginning to get a picture of how much financial damage Deprived has caused me" [22:04]
ozbot [BitFunder] TU.SILVER -- News & Reports [22:04]
pankkake so he's not blaming MP! [22:04]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That was one of my first long thread reads on Bitcointalk. [22:04]
mircea_popescu stephengandel you're not being stupid by not knowing ; reports are in [22:04]
stephengandel thanks. [22:04]
mircea_popescu you can see someone sold calls if you look either in the log of this chan (ttp:// or else on the site. [22:05]
mircea_popescu the yellow bar on the small graph next to O.USD.C050T [22:05]
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stephengandel MPOE November statement. Is that where I should be looking? [22:05]
mircea_popescu yeah, that's for november. [22:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.1619999 = 2.106 BTC [+] {3} [22:06]
mircea_popescu they go all the way to iirc february 2012 [22:06]
mike_c stephengandel: 7,443 of these calls traded this month from [22:06]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Planning anything big for March 2015 when MPEx becomes more than half as old as the Bitcoin network? [22:08]
mircea_popescu why isn;t the trudy chick suing me ;/ [22:08]
mircea_popescu fucking artists with their complicated shoes. impossible to get a hold of. [22:08]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo hadn't thought of it... [22:08]
mircea_popescu is it legal for bitcoin ventures to plan one year in advance even ? [22:09]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, I don't see why not? The only authority in Bitcoin is signed contracts. [22:09]
mircea_popescu i was just being sarcastic. [22:10]
mircea_popescu "I have alot of respect for you man. I may want to pick your brain [22:10]
mircea_popescu throughout my adventure. If you have any openings or any available tasks I [22:10]
mircea_popescu might be able to help you with that will help me gain some valuable [22:10]
mircea_popescu experience, please do let me know." [22:10]
mircea_popescu i need to start doing something where people can help ;/ [22:10]
kakobrekla [22:11]
ozbot The Crimson Permanent Assurance - Monty Python's "The Meaning Of Life" - YouTube [22:11]
kakobrekla worth rewatching. [22:11]
mike_c have him fix the html encoding on the trilema footnotes [22:11]
mircea_popescu they're broklen !? [22:11]
mike_c like, forever [22:11]
nubbins` heh [22:11]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla [22:11]
mircea_popescu mike_c i only do that sorta shit with womenz. [22:12]
kakobrekla mhm :) [22:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33601001 BTC [-] [22:12]
mircea_popescu << this is actually what i should be doing [22:14]
ozbot Monty Python Silly Job Interview Sketch - YouTube [22:14]
kakobrekla dat first link is mpex invading nyse [22:14]
mircea_popescu lol [22:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00247 = 0.3285 BTC [+] {2} [22:15]
mircea_popescu complete with whips and everything huh [22:15]
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kakobrekla hehe [22:15]
kakobrekla mhm [22:15]
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mircea_popescu so here's a random thought : about a year and a half ago i bought a pair of bitcoin engraved cufflinks from a guy that did a custom cufflink run [22:17]
mircea_popescu they're nothing special, brass, kinda nice. [22:17]
mircea_popescu they cost, i find reviewing my records, 3 btc and 25 cents. [22:18]
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mircea_popescu this brass has cost me about 2 grams of gold per gram. [22:18]
kakobrekla yep [22:18]
mircea_popescu by BingoBoingo's 2015 megaparty they'd better be diamond studded and made out of frozen panda tears. [22:18]
kakobrekla and i drive half a mio usd car. [22:19]
mircea_popescu well at least it has injection. [22:19]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I imagine by 2022 on the 10th anniversary of MPEx the diamonds would be synthesized from the panda tears. [22:20]
mircea_popescu but yeah, wait until bentley figures out that there's these dudes who routinely pay 500k for a car and don't even expect it to fly. [22:20]
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BingoBoingo kakobrekla: I've always preferred the 500 usd cars. It's hard to feel guilty when you make them fly. [22:21]
mircea_popescu actually... we should probably count our blessings. once the rest of the world figures out there's billionaires hanging out on irc kakobrekla will be spending his days doing nothing but banning salesmen in here. [22:21]
kakobrekla double lol. [22:21]
mircea_popescu a 500 btc carpal tunnel! [22:21]
pankkake I'm sure there are automated ways to catch salesman [22:22]
nubbins` i've smoked things that would now be worth 6 grams of gold per gram [22:22]
nubbins` feels great [22:22]
mircea_popescu someone should ipo a Topless Salesman Catching Brigade. [22:22]
mircea_popescu like gaddafi's ukrainian nurses, [22:22]
mircea_popescu except for butts. [22:22]
thestringpuller are we all laughing at 7C yet? [22:23]
thestringpuller or should i come back? [22:23]
nubbins` we did briefly earlier today [22:23]
mircea_popescu come back, 1 year! [22:23]
nubbins` [22:23]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [22:23]
thestringpuller lololol [22:23]
pankkake I haven't understood what 7C is yet [22:24]
nubbins` nobody has [22:24]
pankkake but I don't think I want to anymore [22:24]
BingoBoingo So 7C is basically if farmville was Euloria, but with USD revenue and Facebook? [22:24]
mircea_popescu it's like 1btc, i thought, except havelock listed it for some reason. [22:24]
pankkake havelock clearly hasn't done their job [22:24]
pankkake well, they want the monies [22:25]
nubbins` ^ [22:25]
ll ;;calc 373.52591376/400000 [22:26]
gribble 0.0009338147844 [22:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34933745 = 0.6987 BTC [+] [22:27]
jborkl nubbins`: "when you get tired of wasting money, console yourself with your huge in-game rep and 3d friends < awesome [22:29]
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jborkl isn't that just -otc and the forum [22:29]
nubbins` i have brief moments of lucidity [22:29]
nubbins` jborkl: it's a lot of things. [22:30]
jborkl ah only a 23,000 btc valuation [22:31]
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nubbins` yeah, total lowball [22:32]
nubbins` considering buying entire company with spare change, etc [22:32]
pankkake I have this to console me but it doesn't really work [22:33]
BingoBoingo Honestly more than million dollar bitcoin, I'm waiting for the republic of Bitcoin to annex Cuba where despite taking an opposite ideological stance to Fidel's regime this island remains opposed to the USG's incompetence. [22:33]
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mircea_popescu ah only a 23,000 btc valuation << wehat! [22:34]
mircea_popescu dude where's that delusionist cartoon [22:34]
* BingoBoingo is pretty sure 23,000 BTC is space station sort of money next fall [22:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.0024752 = 0.4752 BTC [+] {2} [22:35]
mike_c well, if havelock is worth 50k, why not 23k for 7c? [22:35]
mircea_popescu i guess i better start saving my nail clippings. [22:37]
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pankkake so, now saying "paragon of retardation" is grounds for getting a post deleted. mods=fags [22:40]
jborkl well 7c should IPO for 12,400 bitcoins in super nerd BTC [22:40]
mircea_popescu you shouldn't have said paragon. [22:42]
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pankkake I expected the joke to come up. perhaps I should have proved my expectation by putting it in the blockchain [22:43]
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jcpham [22:58]
mike_c [23:01]
mike_c you really pissed this guy off! [23:01]
ozbot Threats to extort and blackmail BCT companies by the user 'pankkake' [23:02]
jurov` Just got email from Dude can't figure out mpoe options and asking for help :) [23:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00081614 = 1.2242 BTC [-] [23:03]
benkay that'd be stephengandel, no? [23:03]
jurov` Yes. [23:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 228 @ 0.00248 = 0.5654 BTC [+] [23:04]
jurov` Seems completely lost, not sure where i should begin. [23:04]
mike_c he was looking to short btc. just tell him to buy an atm put. [23:05]
jurov` Mhm ok. [23:05]
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mircea_popescu lol self mod [23:07]
mircea_popescu pankkake the girl sends her regards. [23:07]
mircea_popescu jurov` yeah i dunno what's going on there, but don't end up railroading some noob into buying complex financial instruments he doesn't understand. [23:09]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 722 @ 0.00248 = 1.7906 BTC [+] [23:10]
mike_c senior editor at fortune is financial noob? [23:10]
mircea_popescu i'm just saying in general [23:10]
benkay the bitbet irc channel? [23:10]
benkay this boggles. [23:11]
mircea_popescu benkay ? [23:11]
benkay mircea_popescu: the btctalk thread you linked has people talking about the bitbet irc channel and linking the -assets log [23:12]
mircea_popescu o o, older stuff. yeah. [23:12]
mircea_popescu pankkake if that nonsense doesn't wake up forum mods to the insanity that selfmod threads are, i dunno what will. maybe bitch at them. [23:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 249 @ 0.00248999 = 0.62 BTC [+] [23:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.00248999 = 0.3959 BTC [+] [23:18]
jurov` I just railroaded them into funding voinbr account and laid out their options [23:18]
mircea_popescu voyna br! [23:18]
jurov` Lol [23:19]
damagebritain is AM worth holding? [23:19]
mircea_popescu damagebritain probably a better choice than most alternatives. [23:19]
mircea_popescu but it's a mining venture. it's mostly going to go lower. [23:19]
BingoBoingo damagebritain: If you have AM, maybe hold it for a while and dump it if the share price spikes when their next gen shit comes online, provided they actually have next gen shit. [23:21]
damagebritain We'll see won't wee [23:21]
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damagebritain Have you seen the reports of their immersion cooled blades? I know it isn't next gen but that is cool [23:22]
dub immersion cool even [23:23]
Duffer1 ya it is quite impressive [23:23]
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Duffer1 now they need better gear worthy of their cooling tech :P [23:23]
mircea_popescu well cool is one thing. you meant to ask if it's worth holding for the cool ? [23:23]
dub wet is another thing [23:24]
damagebritain No looking for dividends and hopefully they announce something next gen and we see growth [23:24]
dub cool and wet [23:24]
benkay warm and wet > cool and wet [23:24]
damagebritain new hardware sales and whatnot [23:24]
dub benkay: not always [23:24]
kakobrekla necro [23:24]
dub don't discount the Ability-to-sell-shity-gear-to-retards-hand-over-fist factor [23:26]
damagebritain theres that, too [23:26]
dub still plenty of milk in that cow [23:26]
mircea_popescu dub problem is the price went up [23:26]
jurov` They need laz0r cooling [23:27]
mircea_popescu the btc price i mean. to get 1 btc that way you need a lot of retards. [23:27]
BingoBoingo damagebritain: Dividends are over rated, but S.NSA is cheap at the moment. [23:27]
dub countrer problem is theres a lot more retards in the market [23:27]
mircea_popescu this is true [23:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo how do you judge that ? [23:27]
damagebritain S.NSA never heard of it [23:27]
kakobrekla dividends are like candy to make kids shut the fuck up [23:28]
benkay snsa is currently pricing in risk of not making delivery by the 25th [23:28]
jurov` BingoBoingo and what is fair price? I'll gladly update my sell order and refer everyone to your wise words :) [23:28]
dub surely there is 2 weeks of contingency built in there [23:29]
benkay dub: pardon? [23:30]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Just guessing from the gut. [23:30]
BingoBoingo jurov`: Pulling magic out of my ass [23:30]
jurov` Duly noted. [23:31]
mike_c s.nsa has 1.2k market cap. 7c could buy it like, 20 times over. [23:31]
mircea_popescu by the way, anyone know smt plants working for btc ? [23:31]
mircea_popescu mike_c yeah but then it wouldn't be as cool. [23:31]
damagebritain whats a good exchange for s.nsa [23:31]
mike_c [23:32]
benkay damagebritain: [23:32]
kakobrekla dont go all railroading yo. [23:32]
BingoBoingo damagebritain: Assuming you aren't on MPEX and don't have 30 BTC to register with... mike_c [23:32]
jurov` No coinbr referrals? Thanks for teh monyz :D [23:32]
BingoBoingo damagebritain: Seriously though read moar. Don't invest because this rando told you to. [23:32]
mike_c wouldn't want to be accused of being a shill and "associate" of jurov :) [23:33]
damagebritain oh I'm not it looks like it just crashed and isn't hashing yet? [23:33]
mike_c uh oh [23:33]
BingoBoingo damagebritain: Fine wait, I'll get the referral link [23:33]
damagebritain price just crashed [23:33]
mike_c it's not a mining company [23:33]
kakobrekla LOL! [23:33]
jurov` mike_c you will be accused anyway, why not get paid for it? [23:33]
mike_c true [23:34]
kakobrekla hear that mp, cardanos not hashing yet wahts up wiff dat [23:34]
BingoBoingo damagebritain: Here's a Coinbr referral link. [23:34]
FabianB wahaha, reading is hard [23:34]
mircea_popescu we will make a statement about the statement which we can't make for legal reasons at a later point which is very sorry to please understand death in the family my new car crashed [23:34]
damagebritain whoa I'm just speculating don't know too much lol [23:34]
mircea_popescu in completely unrelated news, [23:35]
mircea_popescu "By making their product or artwork display neotenous traits, designers attempt to sway people to enjoy or desire their product because it appears childish, adorable, soft or otherwise desirable. By making a product cute, the nucleus accumbens in the human brain is targeted and elicits a protective or coddling response, which encourages an individual to acquire (purchase) said item. By designing items, characters, food [23:35]
mircea_popescu or anything else in this manner, product designers attempt to create the same reaction to a product that a human baby could create." [23:35]
BingoBoingo This describes S.NSA [23:35]
mircea_popescu so basically designers should be round up and shot. [23:35]
jurov` don't forget to get experts of unrelated company involved under nda [23:35]
mircea_popescu yes, obama is working for me [23:36]
mircea_popescu he has 2 year's experience in managing website creation and deployment, [23:36]
mircea_popescu under budget and over spec. [23:36]
BingoBoingo damagebritain: Here's more text explaining what S.NSA has planned in the near future. [23:36]
BingoBoingo [23:36]
ozbot S.NSA pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:36]
mircea_popescu so honest question : company with watercooled blades vs company with pubis-bare shirts. [23:37]
mircea_popescu which is cooler ? [23:37]
BingoBoingo The latter [23:37]
damagebritain it isnt water [23:37]
kakobrekla IT ISNT WANTER!!!!11 [23:37]
kakobrekla -n [23:37]
mircea_popescu what is it, oil ? [23:37]
BingoBoingo Could get wet though... [23:37]
mircea_popescu hahaha [23:38]
mircea_popescu !b 12 [23:38]
assbot Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. ( [23:38]
jurov` mp needs photos with goo [23:38]
damagebritain yea probably [23:38]
jurov` Or milk. [23:38]
mircea_popescu milk cooled asics [23:38]
mircea_popescu now that'd be something to behold. [23:38]
jurov` ^ [23:38]
mircea_popescu if difficulty shoots up too much at least you can eat the cheese. [23:38]
kakobrekla hahah [23:39]
KRS|gotyawallet ;;goxlag [23:39]
gribble MtGox lag is 2.777023 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0055651229989 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU). [23:39]
mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet isn't actually krs im just realising [23:39]
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KRS|gotyawallet eh [23:40]
KRS|gotyawallet "krs" is some cat in s.america who registered the nick [23:40]
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mircea_popescu right [23:41]
mircea_popescu by the way, did i mention i now own #nude ? [23:42]
KRS|gotyawallet hah cool..need to figger out an ipo for btc sex [23:42]
KRS|gotyawallet sex is cash money with or without btc [23:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 16666 @ 0.00258018 = 43.0013 BTC [+] {17} [23:42]
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KRS|gotyawallet maybe #bitcoin-anal [23:43]
mircea_popescu i thought i owned that too [23:43]
mircea_popescu I THINK I OWN ALL THE THINGS [23:43]
kakobrekla i dont think thers much game in sex and btc, but if pays dividends.... [23:43]
KRS|gotyawallet i think you do, but i'm holding it down [23:43]
KRS|gotyawallet Bitcoin-Ass specials: 2 liters anal lube .003 BTC. SENSATIONAL!! 23" Monster Cock (only comes in color BLACK) made with the finest rubber and steel belts. BLOWOUT: Everyone's favorite laxitive COLON BLOW. Everyday low price .001 BTC. [23:43]
kakobrekla thats too much [23:44]
mircea_popescu * Loaded log from Fri Apr 26 16:44:13 2013 lol [23:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3314 @ 0.00274 = 9.0804 BTC [+] [23:44]
Duffer1 colon blow omg... [23:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.00274 = 1.0412 BTC [+] [23:53]
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dub did anyone actually post a coinbr referral? [23:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00274 = 0.1863 BTC [+] [23:54]
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KRS|gotyawallet bitbar is now $99? [23:59]
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