Forum logs for 02 Jan 2016

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

lobito	xD	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	how old are you anyway lobito, if you don't mind my asking ?	[00:03]
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mircea_popescu	!up lobito	[00:04]
-assbot-	You voiced lobito for 30 minutes.	[00:04]
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lobito	i'd rather not say, sorry :P	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	aite.	[00:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30299 @ 0.00050366 = 15.2604 BTC [-] {4}	[00:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28521 @ 0.00050742 = 14.4721 BTC [+] {2}	[00:33]
lobito	gtg	[00:35]
lobito	thanks for the chat ^^	[00:35]
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pete_dushenski	http://fredoneverything.org/expat-mexico-arroz-by-any-other-name-would-smell-like-rice/	[00:36]
assbot	Expat Mexico: Arróz by Any Other Name Would Smell Like Rice \| Fred On Everything ... ( http://bit.ly/1YWaKep )	[00:36]
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pete_dushenski	"A friend’s place in a small gated courtyard, walking distance to pretty much everything, two bedrooms, 750 square feet, Internet and electricity included, $280 a month." << it's ~exactly~ deals like this that make me scratch my head and wonder who the fuck pays $500-600 to post a professional job listing on 'monster.com' and 'workopolis.com'	[00:38]
pete_dushenski	must be hr depts with budgets that must be spent, lest they get chopped the following year since they were 'unneeded' the year prior	[00:39]
pete_dushenski	sorta like govs, but not. eg. xerox, home depot, etc.	[00:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00050334 = 4.0016 BTC [-] {2}	[00:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58500 @ 0.00051373 = 30.0532 BTC [+] {5}	[00:47]
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gabriel_laddel	re, lobito. Kill them all.	[00:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00051144 = 7.9017 BTC [-] {2}	[00:55]
gabriel_laddel	The nice thing about the undeveloped east in Ar is that there's plenty of room for concentration camps.	[00:55]
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gabriel_laddel	In other idle wonderings, has anyone known a cat (the animal) with a cocaine habit?	[00:59]
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gabriel_laddel	http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/bimborg.htm	[01:08]
assbot	PLASTIC FANTASTIC BIMBORG ... ( http://bit.ly/1TuDedI )	[01:09]
gabriel_laddel	http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/shivers/scribblings.html	[01:09]
assbot	Some non-technical works ... ( http://bit.ly/1TuDhq0 )	[01:09]
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ben_vulpes	raaa	[01:41]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: around?	[01:42]
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ben_vulpes	nm, dug it out of logz.	[01:48]
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thestringpuller	ugh all these expired keys is making it impossible to build rotor with the old script	[01:59]
thestringpuller	why is this so painful	[01:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00051291 = 10.1043 BTC [-] {3}	[02:01]
mod6	which expired keys?	[02:02]
mod6	alf's? just grab his updated key and replace it in your .wot dir.	[02:02]
thestringpuller	+ gpg --verify buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.sign	[02:03]
thestringpuller	gpg: Signature made Sun 31 May 2015 05:29:39 PM EDT using DSA key ID 59C36319	[02:03]
thestringpuller	gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found	[02:03]
thestringpuller	i have no idea what's causing that	[02:03]
thestringpuller	the only thing that's changed is the keys. i pulled my old .wot directory to new (more sane) macine	[02:03]
mod6	you need to import this public key to you keyring -- there is a comment that outlines the keys you need in the top of the script: 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319	[02:05]
thestringpuller	mod6: ???? https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=AB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319&op=index << from where?	[02:06]
mod6	once you've done that, you may wanna clean up and start the build over again.	[02:06]
mod6	just do this `gpg --recv-keys 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319`	[02:07]
thestringpuller	gotcha	[02:08]
thestringpuller	rebuilding	[02:08]
phf	thestringpuller: v and gpg --verify use different mechanisms for key management. pgp uses keyrings, v hides keyrings by using .wot folder to store pubkeys as asc files. so when a key expires, your best option really is to fetch a key somehow (???), import it into gpg's keyring so that --verify works AND save it into .wot	[02:08]
thestringpuller	just trying to see if i get same error as on roberto	[02:08]
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thestringpuller	will the signed files/patches need to be resigned everytime keys expire?	[02:10]
mod6	phf the deal here is that the build script tries to verify the pgp sig of buildroot -- which is a process outside of v, so a key needs to be imported directly into the gpg keyring.	[02:10]
phf	thestringpuller: gpg doesn't require that. ascii can update expiration date on the key, republish it, and it'll continue working	[02:11]
phf	so expiration date on key is literally a guard, that has nothing to do with crypto. gpg checks timestamp and bails, but it doesn't need to	[02:11]
mod6	<+thestringpuller> will the signed files/patches need to be resigned everytime keys expire? << no. you'll notice that his fp is the same.	[02:12]
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phf	!up ascii_rear	[02:13]
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ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358684 << l0l!! i have the x	[02:14]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 02:43:50; ben_vulpes: http://www.almy.us/xlisp.html << apropos of absolutely nothing	[02:14]
ascii_rear	xlisp manual in 3ring here!!	[02:14]
ascii_rear	brother's, from uni	[02:15]
ascii_rear	was ~the~ msdos almost-commonlisp for years	[02:15]
phf	could probably add a subset of foundation related operations to v, so that staging process uses consistent mechanism (to avoid issues like i have the key in .wot but can't seem to verify??)	[02:16]
ascii_rear	phf: hm?	[02:17]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358686 << 'lose weight! shed limbs!'	[02:18]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 02:44:33; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358569 << while the parallel of the more-than-semi-socialist government and the farmer is mostly very apt, a higher mortality rate doesn't have the same downside cost for the former as the latter. the best thing for the usg would be a plague, if only to bring the costs and complexities of managing so much meat into a more (if still ultim	[02:18]
phf	ascii_rear: ongoing thread about v using .wot for pubkeys, where's gpg --verify on foundation produced files relies on keyring	[02:20]
pete_dushenski	ascii_rear: more like 'lose weight! get non-lethally sick!'	[02:20]
ascii_rear	phf: keyring built by v for the occasion	[02:21]
ascii_rear	deterministically	[02:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10452 @ 0.00051245 = 5.3561 BTC [-]	[02:22]
ascii_rear	(at least in my original)	[02:22]
phf	yeah, so the case with mod6's version, after a #b-a thread	[02:22]
mod6	there is confusion here.	[02:22]
mod6	buiroot is not v-ifiable. so in the rotor+TEST2 build script it was decided (in here) that we should check the hashes and the signatures.	[02:24]
mod6	*buildroot	[02:24]
mod6	so that is checked independently of V. what V does is a whole separate ball of wax.	[02:24]
mod6	anyway, this is all changing anyway.	[02:28]
phf	i understand all that, and i was explaining that there's no conceptual integrity to it, as it stands. we have a .wot folder which is supposed to be a manually curated folder of .asc files. there were a few threads where mp and ascii argued that the folder should not be generated automatically (no sks or pre packaged tar files). so if one wants to build a rotor they need a .wot folder with pubkeys of all the foundation	[02:35]
phf	contributors. an obvious next step is to have a gpg --verify buildroot.sig rely on the contents of .wot folder, by, for example, making a temp directory, doing a for pubkey in .wot/*.asc; do gpg --homedir $tmpdir --import $pubkey; done, then doing gpg --homedir $tmpdir --verify foo.sig; then rm -rf $tmpdir. this way a .wot folder is a canonical source of pubkeys always and for all operations	[02:35]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358714 << see also >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357362	[02:35]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 03:36:47; pete_dushenski: "A friend’s place in a small gated courtyard, walking distance to pretty much everything, two bedrooms, 750 square feet, Internet and electricity included, $280 a month." << it's ~exactly~ deals like this that make me scratch my head and wonder who the fuck pays $500-600 to post a professional job listing on 'monster.com' and 'workopolis.com'	[02:35]
assbot	Logged on 31-12-2015 15:26:10; asciilifeform: 'american is never given money, he is merely shown it and allowed to hold in his hands for a spell to be reminded that it exists'	[02:35]
ascii_rear	that house only costs 280/mo ~because you can't buy it~	[02:37]
ascii_rear	for most values of 'you'	[02:37]
ascii_rear	!s gradient	[02:38]
assbot	22 results for 'gradient' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gradient	[02:38]
ascii_rear	if there were any danger of usaschwitz inmates escaping on masse to this, lizards would print enough bezzlars to bid'em up to washington price - like in b-a.	[02:40]
ascii_rear	*en masse	[02:40]
pete_dushenski	aha. "i told mama i'd be a millionaire someday!" says guy with "home equity" and "registered retirement account". so there he stays.	[02:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37640 @ 0.00051364 = 19.3334 BTC [+] {3}	[02:43]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358739 << buildroot is not v-ified, so why do we have the dsa shitkey in there ??	[02:43]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 05:01:18; thestringpuller: gpg: Signature made Sun 31 May 2015 05:29:39 PM EDT using DSA key ID 59C36319	[02:43]
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mod6	its just the guys key.	[02:44]
phf	!up ascii_rear	[02:44]
mod6	!up assbot	[02:44]
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mod6	f	[02:44]
phf	:D	[02:44]
ascii_rear	mod6: who?	[02:44]
phf	gpg: key 59C36319: public key "Peter Korsgaard " imported	[02:45]
ascii_rear	ah	[02:45]
mod6	anyway, yeah, this is the build script that I created for testing the build of 'rotor', TEST2, and the static binary.	[02:45]
mod6	it's gonna be going away.	[02:45]
ascii_rear	thing we really need is deterministic binary	[02:45]
ascii_rear	but this is a mega-puzzler	[02:45]
ascii_rear	gotta decruft gcc.	[02:46]
ascii_rear	it has to be: same src?? ---> this here bin	[02:46]
ascii_rear	built wherever, on nintendo, on cray.	[02:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13860 @ 0.00050767 = 7.0363 BTC [-] {2}	[02:50]
phf	what i meant is something like this http://paste.lisp.org/display/304383. of course each execution of script creates a fresh gnupg keys folder, imports the wot, import from sks if we're going that way, does the operation, kills the gnupg folder	[02:50]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/22Dem9O )	[02:50]
ascii_rear	fuck sks	[02:51]
ascii_rear	keys oughta be used consciously	[02:51]
ascii_rear	as in, with awareness of what all of the pgpdump fields are, yes	[02:52]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: "quests" are what the shitty AAA titles do to sub in for the fact that their games suck, they are poor and stupid, etc. << uh dafuq? guess someone never played DnD as a kid.	[03:11]
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BingoBoingo	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358457 << Can't trust a guy who gets high off of his own farts	[05:46]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 01:14:53; lobito: this is enric duran, founder of faircoop, if anyone's interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enric_Duran	[05:46]
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BingoBoingo	https://archive.is/glW0e and https://archive.is/Rsyxd	[06:05]
assbot	Linode Under DDoS Since Christmas - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7I7Wm )	[06:06]
assbot	Linode Status ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7I6BX )	[06:06]
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BingoBoingo	https://i.sli.mg/fXaDEq.png	[06:39]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1R34KRH )	[06:39]
BingoBoingo	lol http://trilema.com/2016/the-unhappy-new-years-or-look-at-the-difference-a-decade-makes/#comment-116123	[06:42]
assbot	The unhappy new years, or look at the difference a decade makes! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZFO44l )	[06:42]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358697 << and to add insult to injury, all sorts of internet knownothings keep going on and on about buenos aires "night life". da fuck on a stick, akron, ohio with its concrete statue of a corn field has more of a night life.	[10:15]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 02:54:31; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358595 << that there's no berghain equivalent in buenos aires is spectacularly strange	[10:15]
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BingoBoingo	!up Alopex	[10:27]
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adlai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-01-2016#1358361 << "skeptic"? I don't recall ever denying neither the existence of the exchange nor the fun and [potential] profit of judicious trades	[10:46]
assbot	Logged on 01-01-2016 23:09:07; pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/08/s-mpoe-traders-delight/ << hey adlai, you're not the only mpoe/mpex skeptic anymore. the validating power of teh crowd is yours at long last.	[10:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29745 @ 0.00049743 = 14.7961 BTC [-] {4}	[10:53]
mircea_popescu	and in other news, http://imgur.com/gallery/si6CCcT	[11:00]
assbot	Well, that escalated from last year... - GIF on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1YVRkvm )	[11:00]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358722 << yes.	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	!up okcupiddude	[11:02]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 03:57:31; gabriel_laddel: In other idle wonderings, has anyone known a cat (the animal) with a cocaine habit?	[11:02]
-assbot-	You voiced okcupiddude for 30 minutes.	[11:02]
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okcupiddude	Hi mircea	[11:02]
okcupiddude	Why are we on irc?	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358733 << "expiring" keys are a bad fucking idea, for the record.	[11:03]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 04:57:20; thestringpuller: ugh all these expired keys is making it impossible to build rotor with the old script	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	okcupiddude you must have wanted to talk to me about something ?	[11:03]
okcupiddude	Yeah, i saw that you are a businessman, an so am i	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	o ? what business do you do ?	[11:04]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[11:04]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 431.05, vol: 3008.50145244 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 430.065, vol: 3035.16356 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 431.59, vol: 8964.48982204 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 426.0, vol: 2.0 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 436.224, vol: 31673.12700000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 431.53, vol: 12.28704868 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 435.526099989, vol: 27.6955239 \| Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)	[11:04]
BingoBoingo	;;more	[11:04]
gribble	434.599574614	[11:04]
okcupiddude	We can get together in istanbul if you are in istanbul and talk abiut what potential businesses we can conduct togetger	[11:04]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --currency rmb	[11:04]
gribble	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell mike_c baby the btcalpha is down what do we do! halp! plox!	[11:04]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	okcupiddude i am in buenos aires.	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	tho it's true that i tend to make istanbul the hub of all my travels. that city rocks.	[11:05]
kakobrekla	btcalpha is online from here	[11:05]
*	adlai is able to load btcalpha - charts, webs, the works	[11:05]
okcupiddude	Dude i am that city	[11:05]
mircea_popescu	o. my bad. fuck dns with a stick.	[11:05]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell mike_c thanks for fixing it so fast. AAA+ service would buy again.	[11:05]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[11:05]
okcupiddude	Lets continye through email, shoot me an email you have it	[11:06]
okcupiddude	I am out	[11:06]
BingoBoingo	email sucks	[11:06]
mircea_popescu	i don't do private chats with people i don't know. you want to talk about something, this is the venue.	[11:06]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358754 << technically speaking, "expiration" is a cheap forking mechanism. it shouldn't be there, it's just a hook for future trouble.	[11:09]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 05:09:59; phf: so expiration date on key is literally a guard, that has nothing to do with crypto. gpg checks timestamp and bails, but it doesn't need to	[11:09]
mircea_popescu	if gpg were just released today we'd suspect the nsa impacted that stupid design	[11:09]
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mircea_popescu	this also illustrates the much larger point of the fukctardation of out-of-band communication. it's stupid and dangerous. there should be absolutely no "alternative mechanism" for a key being in any way processed outside of the key itself. timestamp ? fuck that.	[11:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16605 @ 0.00049873 = 8.2814 BTC [+] {2}	[11:10]
mircea_popescu	the less said, the less possibility of misunderstanding, which is why the main quality of a contract is being brief. the fewer venues communication may occur in, the fewer indecidable problems you'll meet. this rly is not rocket science.	[11:11]
mircea_popescu	(contract elongation is a direct result of the channel trying to fight against noise in "out of band" communication. take that away, you're golden)	[11:12]
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shinohai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358865 <<< kek. And good morning #b-a	[11:32]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 14:01:10; okcupiddude: Why are we on irc?	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	hola.	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358803 << myeah.	[11:32]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 05:43:50; ascii_rear: thing we really need is deterministic binary	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358806 << the problem is this may run into portability issues way the fuck before it runs into anything else.	[11:33]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 05:44:55; ascii_rear: it has to be: same src?? ---> this here bin	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358814 << hm ?	[11:33]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 06:09:34; thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "quests" are what the shitty AAA titles do to sub in for the fact that their games suck, they are poor and stupid, etc. << uh dafuq? guess someone never played DnD as a kid.	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358830 << fuck them, bunch of twerps. linode has no place in the world.	[11:34]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 09:04:08; assbot: Linode Under DDoS Since Christmas - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7I7Wm )	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	"For the short term, we will be using BGP communities to attempt to block Asia Pacific, the Middle East, South America, and others, hopefully leaving us only with traffic from North America and Western Europe. Blocking geographic regions this way is the only way to make sure that large botnets won't be able to launch further attacks.For the short term, we will be using BGP communities to attempt to block Asia Pacific,	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	the Middle East, South America, and others, hopefully leaving us only with traffic from North America and Western Europe. Blocking geographic regions this way is the only way to make sure that large botnets won't be able to launch further attacks."	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	oooo right.	[11:34]
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mircea_popescu	;;ud catfished	[11:37]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=catfished \| Having a fake facebook profile, images and avatar in order to lure people to have romantic feelings. They are then catfished when the victim realises the person ...	[11:37]
mircea_popescu	mmmmkay...	[11:37]
mircea_popescu	so basically, "traditional marriage" is now called "being catfished" ?	[11:38]
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BingoBoingo	parts of it	[11:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29149 @ 0.00049767 = 14.5066 BTC [-] {4}	[11:44]
punkman	http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/57466-Mad-Max-The-Sandiest-Sand-Box	[11:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9865 @ 0.00050178 = 4.9501 BTC [+] {2}	[11:48]
punkman	"The sandbox games has now become what the 3rd-person shooter was not too long ago, the default setting that tends to get rolled out for generic action games after the creative team have sat around a blank whiteboard all morning and started hankering for an early lunch."	[11:51]
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mircea_popescu	aha	[11:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76700 @ 0.00050294 = 38.5755 BTC [+] {4}	[11:52]
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mircea_popescu	apparently i'm okcupid-famous now.	[11:56]
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mod6	"get the fuck outta my mailbox or else!"	[11:59]
mod6	or else what?	[11:59]
shinohai	I very much enjoyed the recent Trilema article	[11:59]
*	shinohai likes trolling dommes as well.	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	o ?	[12:01]
BingoBoingo	How does okcupid famous compare to fetlife famous?	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	about 50lbs less average weight.	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	lemme tell you - after a decade of "the tallest, the slimest, the hottest chicks at the bdsm party are the ones you brought" it gets fucking old.	[12:06]
mircea_popescu	no idea how all these fucktards expect anyone to take them seriously. "oh, i'm a master, that's my slave"	[12:06]
BingoBoingo	aha	[12:06]
mircea_popescu	really, bitch ? if she were your slave she wouldn't bmi over 40 ffs.	[12:06]
mircea_popescu	cage her and feed her lemon water till xmas.	[12:07]
mod6	real subs like the cage!	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	word.	[12:09]
shinohai	This one caught my eye because she has recently discovered cryptocurrency it appears: https://twitter.com/casslechat	[12:10]
assbot	La Reine (@casslechat) \| Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1OzUPMV )	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	so tell her to sell her tits.	[12:10]
shinohai	Has a smattering of btctalk posts as well, with feminist tones	[12:11]
BingoBoingo	feminist is just a code word for boys insecure about their penis	[12:12]
mod6	feminism: our specialty	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	more like ... boys secure about their penis (it dun work), ready to please in othar ways.	[12:12]
BingoBoingo	ic	[12:13]
shinohai	I sent her a PM and told her she should come here and show her tits for 0.1. Obviously no reply.	[12:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050377 = 7.6069 BTC [+]	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	next time give out teh link.	[12:13]
shinohai	I linked to the trilema article	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	(pro tip : woman that would die to defend her clothes put among a dozen nude damsels will cast off every last stitch like it were radioactive)	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	a. then who knows.	[12:14]
shinohai	Probably too "dominant" to let guyz see her naked, i.e. an instadomme	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	eh, dommes domme topless anyway.	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	there's no good equivalent of boots for the chest.	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	could go full corset, but given the... rotund quality of most dommes it's too constrictive an' they faint. usually go for demis if at all.	[12:16]
BingoBoingo	"Romania is not a country most people would associate with Bitcoin or digital currency right away" >> https://archive.is/8oH79	[12:19]
assbot	Things Are Not Adding Up For BitcoinXRomania - The Merkle ... ( http://bit.ly/1YW3TXF )	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	lol. mkay.	[12:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10581 @ 0.00050377 = 5.3304 BTC [+]	[12:21]
shinohai	J.P. Buntinx, " one of the world's leading freelance Bitcoin writers"	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	who ?!	[12:23]
kakobrekla	buttnix	[12:24]
BingoBoingo	^	[12:24]
BingoBoingo	He's written for just about all the crap outlets except coindesk	[12:24]
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mircea_popescu	what's his expert sex change profile ?	[12:25]
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BingoBoingo	I dunno that. Think he's visited here once	[12:26]
BingoBoingo	!s jpbuntix	[12:26]
assbot	0 results for 'jpbuntix' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jpbuntix	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	anyway. never heard of him, but whatevs.	[12:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00050377 = 9.6472 BTC [+]	[12:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.00049883 = 16.3616 BTC [-] {2}	[12:28]
mod6	<+kakobrekla> buttnix << lel	[12:33]
mod6	gentoo clone	[12:33]
BingoBoingo	Wait, I though buttnix was a closed IBM AnusIX distro	[12:34]
punkman	https://twitter.com/casslechat/status/683158602534653952 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957797.0	[12:41]
assbot	[ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXq5II )	[12:41]
punkman	I dunno how any of this makes sense	[12:43]
shinohai	Spells of Genesis - another Erik Voorhees production.	[12:46]
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mod6	!up ascii_rear	[12:57]
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mircea_popescu	punkman not enough crystals in your soda!	[12:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00050376 = 8.1105 BTC [+] {2}	[12:58]
*	mircea_popescu is too lazy to read tardstalk	[12:58]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358906 << how? recall that we already have cross-compilation	[12:59]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 14:31:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358806 << the problem is this may run into portability issues way the fuck before it runs into anything else.	[12:59]
mircea_popescu	if i knew how i'd be an engineer	[12:59]
mircea_popescu	instead i'm stuck here sifting through folders with 19yosluts and urgent business proposals from dudes in quatar.	[12:59]
ascii_rear	just need to patch gcc to stop it from taking local paths shits into the binary	[13:00]
mircea_popescu	this would technically create trb-gcc wouldn't it	[13:00]
ascii_rear	aha	[13:00]
mircea_popescu	as they're not going to import it and well... aha.	[13:00]
ascii_rear	long past time.	[13:00]
mircea_popescu	anyone wanna be trb-gcc maintainer ?	[13:01]
ascii_rear	i still can't fathom who and why thought the pollution was justifiable.	[13:01]
ascii_rear	it will prolly have to be me...	[13:01]
mircea_popescu	well... giving love a chance over here.	[13:02]
ascii_rear	(anybody else here on speaking terms with gcc guts? pkease raise yer hand!)	[13:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00049826 = 28.9987 BTC [-] {3}	[13:03]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358895 << i'd like to hear moar re: this	[13:04]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 14:08:41; mircea_popescu: this also illustrates the much larger point of the fukctardation of out-of-band communication. it's stupid and dangerous. there should be absolutely no "alternative mechanism" for a key being in any way processed outside of the key itself. timestamp ? fuck that.	[13:04]
mircea_popescu	let's.	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	best phrase some sort of objection or something tho, to establish a common ground somewhere.	[13:06]
mircea_popescu	bar that i guess i'll have to go into an analysis of contracting legal theory.	[13:07]
ascii_rear	mostly that i'm not grasping how in- vs out- of band thread ties in here	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	ok, let's try this :	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	suppose a world composed of three thinking agents, A, B and C.	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	situation 1 : single band.	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	A approaches C and inquires about B. C responds that B is untrustworthy and produces a contract that says "C has given B X, in consideration of which B will perform Y".	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	in this situation as described, A can make a determination ~without~ A having to be human. it's what you'd call a "strict" determination.	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	situation 2 : two bands.	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	A approaches C and inquires about B. C responds that B is untrustworthy and produces a contract that says "C has given B X, in consideration of which B will perform Y".	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	EXTRA STEP BECAUSE FUCKING STUPID MULTIBANDS!!!1! C now confronts B about A's contract.	[13:09]
ascii_rear	concretize the meaning of bands here plz	[13:10]
mircea_popescu	IF (YET ANOTHER EXTRA STEP!!11!) B responds that A's contract should be "set aside" (WHAT ?!?!) because "the law" (2nd band) says that bla bla,	[13:10]
mircea_popescu	A can no longer make a determination. at fucking all.	[13:10]
mircea_popescu	so they need to add D the judge and fucking hell we're back to what we were fixing.	[13:10]
ascii_rear	btw this is an instance of 'funarg problem'	[13:11]
mircea_popescu	right.	[13:11]
mircea_popescu	imagine for a moment gpg ran the bitcoin.	[13:11]
mircea_popescu	"expired" keys ? really ?	[13:11]
ascii_rear	in that universe, it is solved. the solution, in this one, is:	[13:11]
mircea_popescu	why the fuck would you want to add another band! it's suicide, obviously.	[13:11]
ascii_rear	static linking of the whole relevant body of law into the contract	[13:12]
ascii_rear	is this practiced anywhere?	[13:12]
mircea_popescu	no, because for THIS REASON the body of law can not be statically compiled.	[13:12]
mircea_popescu	too god damned many bands	[13:12]
mircea_popescu	because someone somewhere told idiots that the solution to imponderable problems is to add "tagging".	[13:12]
ascii_rear	and ianal but meat law contracts often include time	[13:12]
mircea_popescu	time is irrelevant here and can be deemed as part of the explicitation of "X"	[13:13]
ascii_rear	this is the part that confuses me	[13:13]
mircea_popescu	go on ?	[13:13]
ascii_rear	why 'time is irrelevant' ?	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	because i did not include it in my discussion.	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	when following an example you can only reference objects the author included.	[13:14]
ascii_rear	thread was originally 'timestamps in pgp considered harmful' iirc	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	the problem with timestamps is not related to time	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	but to that they purport to convey information other than the key itself.	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	that's what makes them 2nd channel.	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	and there's a tie-in here about how all systems should fail deadly anyway, and consequently "timestamps" are not even allowed in the design because no way to enforce them.	[13:16]
ascii_rear	let's take another key field... name of owner. also irrelevant?	[13:16]
ascii_rear	or is it a useful signed expression of intent when key was made	[13:16]
ascii_rear	name also cannot be enforced - conceivably someone could distribute a key with name field stripped	[13:17]
mod6	its just a number, how can a name be relevant?	[13:18]
ascii_rear	signed statement associating a memorable human name with the signing modulus	[13:20]
mod6	doesn't matter	[13:21]
ascii_rear	i can see a case for 'modulus only' key	[13:23]
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ascii_rear	but the problem with discarding the notion of time entirely is that enemy can subject you to endless replay attack	[13:25]
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ascii_rear	taking your old output and presenting it to anybody he can get to, as your latest	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	name of owner is user-provided anyway.	[13:28]
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mircea_popescu	you for instance are "stas"	[13:28]
mircea_popescu	!up ascii_rear	[13:28]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_rear for 30 minutes.	[13:28]
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mircea_popescu	and note that the discussion wasn't "time is for all time and in all contexts irrelevant".	[13:29]
mircea_popescu	the discussion was that in the specific context of "key expiraton" the "time" part is not terribly relevant for our discussion of multiband. merely the fact that there's another band ductaped on.	[13:30]
ascii_rear	the statement 'anybody signing with this key after $condition is an impostor' is usefully machine-readable	[13:33]
ascii_rear	unless i catastrophically misunderstand something	[13:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00049726 = 11.437 BTC [-] {2}	[13:33]
mircea_popescu	sure, but that'd be a contract, in-band.	[13:33]
mircea_popescu	not a "wait, band2 says this key is no longer good so you gotta consider this when looking in band now!11"	[13:34]
ascii_rear	ok so it turns out that mircea_popescu is simply insisting on 'p' !!	[13:34]
mircea_popescu	well... a certain design principle at any rate.	[13:34]
mircea_popescu	so.. P :D	[13:35]
ascii_rear	where all rules re: a key are expressed INSIDE the key	[13:35]
ascii_rear	aha.	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	not just.	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	"all rules re a key are expressed inside a key such that being ignored breaks the whole thing"	[13:35]
ascii_rear	aha!	[13:35]
ascii_rear	p.	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	and if there isn't a way for your "rule" to be made to satisfy this, a) it's not a rule and b) shut up and do some meditation, you're verging on stupid.	[13:36]
ascii_rear	protocol vs promise	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	quite.	[13:36]
ascii_rear	we had a good thread re: this	[13:36]
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ascii_rear	!s protocol promise	[13:36]
assbot	12 results for 'protocol promise' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=protocol+promise	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	this is really the revolution bitcoin brought about.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	people think it's a major breakthrough in money, but that's doubtful. it is however a string of major breakthroughs in systems theory.	[13:37]
ascii_rear	that's what drew me in intellectually at any rate	[13:37]
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ascii_rear	the very sweet lure of zapping 'buluceala'	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	hahahaha	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	o great. that may be the happiest that word's ever been.	[13:40]
ascii_rear	it was in a mircea_popescu article	[13:40]
ascii_rear	let's see...	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	very nicely used. you are now a honorary native romanian speaker.	[13:40]
ascii_rear	http://trilema.com/2014/pushing-the-soft-tender-flesh-of-a-friend-against-the-sharp-rotating-blades-of-the-immutable-machine	[13:41]
assbot	Pushing the soft tender flesh of a friend against the sharp rotating blades of the immutable machine. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1VwFdQ7 )	[13:41]
ascii_rear	anyway we need a nice sweet opposite	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	ftr, it comes from tk, bölük - with a very latin -ala tacked on.	[13:42]
ascii_rear	ordnung?	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	nah, too german.	[13:42]
ascii_rear	organon.	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	suggests this weakass order that has to be maintained by barking weinerschnitzels.	[13:42]
ascii_rear	l0llz!	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	yeah, organon, cosmos, something.	[13:42]
ascii_rear	novum organon ftw	[13:42]
mircea_popescu	if i ever write a book about nazi camps etc, the evil guy's dogs are gonna be named ordnung ^ disziplin	[13:43]
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*	ascii_rear pictures barking, snarling wienerschnitzel... sausage	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	lol	[13:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00049726 = 12.7547 BTC [-]	[13:53]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: re: quests << I think the quests you were thinking of in regards to Eulora logs are grind quests which contribute nothing to the gameplay but dungeon crawling/grinding. Get X something by killing Y something. But complex quests that add story are kinda key to singleplayer games. Be it robbing banks in GTA and listening to characters talk in the car; finding your son in Fallout 4; or finding your family in Red De	[13:57]
mircea_popescu	i was mostly thinking of wow.	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	which for some reason everyone decided to copy for a while there.	[14:00]
deedbot-	[Qntra] 7 Month Investigation Catches Alleged Refund Fraudsters - http://qntra.net/2016/01/7-month-investigation-catches-alleged-refund-fraudsters/	[14:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20485 @ 0.00049965 = 10.2353 BTC [+] {2}	[14:01]
thestringpuller	well Blizzard is known for turning games into digital crack of some sort. some people get highly addicted despite how shitty the game is and stay hooked for years. It's not really a viable gameplay model, more just "here is some crack have fun".	[14:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4705 @ 0.00049966 = 2.3509 BTC [+]	[14:08]
BingoBoingo	No matter how much hair is lost to polishing trb, let us all be thankful trb will nevar have these solutions: https://archive.is/a48Ko	[14:10]
assbot	Arch Linux with cinnamon : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1R6QZlq )	[14:10]
thestringpuller	"Since 0.11B we have added systemd init scripts to make sure that the node will be started and auto-restarted if you reboot. The systemd bitcoinxtd.service registers the XT based daemon for autostart."	[14:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00049876 = 2.1197 BTC [-]	[14:30]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358897 << amen, especially to the contracting bit.	[14:31]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 14:09:41; mircea_popescu: the less said, the less possibility of misunderstanding, which is why the main quality of a contract is being brief. the fewer venues communication may occur in, the fewer indecidable problems you'll meet. this rly is not rocket science.	[14:31]
*	ben_vulpes is cobbling together some grep and sed as we speak to ease the pain of handling fiatland contracts	[14:32]
*	ben_vulpes was astonished to learn the american legal system runs on word and has ultimate faith in 'track changes'	[14:33]
ben_vulpes	mind = blown	[14:33]
ben_vulpes	alternatively, comparing documents manually.	[14:33]
ben_vulpes	;;later tell adlai is there really something to learn in #joinmarket?	[14:34]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[14:34]
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adlai	it's moderately documented in the code itself and on github. if you want to learn from belcher why he tangled the spaghetti just so, lurk around until he shows up	[14:40]
fluffypony	http://themerkle.com/news/things-are-not-adding-up-for-bitcoinxromania/	[14:41]
assbot	Things Are Not Adding Up For BitcoinXRomania - The Merkle ... ( http://bit.ly/1kAx0gd )	[14:41]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359041 << while in theory there is no way to enforce them in practice there is no alternative to the gpg c-ball, and so therefore similarly to how the thing resists librarification it also enforces key expiration. until mpex doesn't respect key expiration, it /is/ enforced.	[14:42]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 16:14:26; mircea_popescu: and there's a tie-in here about how all systems should fail deadly anyway, and consequently "timestamps" are not even allowed in the design because no way to enforce them.	[14:42]
ben_vulpes	adlai: i might understand how it works, but i thought there might be...learning to had lurking over there.	[14:42]
ben_vulpes	additional learning.	[14:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14274 @ 0.00049742 = 7.1002 BTC [-]	[14:43]
*	adlai considers it one of the higher SNR #bitcoin-channels	[14:43]
ben_vulpes	well with bandwidth like that any noise at all would snipe it from the list	[14:44]
adlai	it's much sleepier than this place, there have been ~weeks with pretty much no activity	[14:44]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00049749 = 9.2036 BTC [+] {2}	[14:55]
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deedbot-	[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin block reward halving on or before 20 July 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1182/bitcoin-block-reward-halving-on-or-before-20/#b10	[15:32]
ben_vulpes	"And in the 20th century there were more and more college graduates. They increased from about 2% of the population in 1900 to about 25% in 2000." << if this is true, it definitely explains the PITA that "college educated" people are in the states.	[15:32]
ben_vulpes	a thing once a hallmark of literally the 98th percentile is now distributed to more-or-less all comers, but the education is now 90% training people to demand the respect such a diploma'd have warranted in the 1900s and 10% intersectional triggering studies	[15:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00049764 = 6.0214 BTC [+]	[15:33]
ben_vulpes	leading to a great fuckton of "this corporate document is insufficiently sensitive to groups x y and z, and even though i'm not a part of any of them the corp must now change these docs or else what have i wasted the past n years of my life on anyways"	[15:34]
ben_vulpes	uno minimo respeto por la concern troll!	[15:35]
*	ben_vulpes extremely fucking loath to hire us degree holders under the age of forty	[15:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00049747 = 10.1981 BTC [-] {3}	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	* ben_vulpes was astonished to learn the american legal system runs on word and has ultimate faith in 'track changes' <<< no small part of why it's a joke.	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	fucking word ben_vulpes	[15:48]
ben_vulpes	mother	[15:48]
ben_vulpes	fucking	[15:48]
ben_vulpes	word	[15:48]
ben_vulpes	you know what the absolute cherry on top is?	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[15:49]
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ben_vulpes	a PDF with changes conveniently color coded underlined and colorized to highlight moved text, removed text, added text and umpteen other categories of change.	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform my pleasure to inform you 256gb. have fun.	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes every now and again some politico gets in hot water for submitting a "dirty" document	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	(ie, with changes still included)	[15:50]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1UmOk4w )	[15:50]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[15:50]
punkman	mircea_popescu: * ben_vulpes was astonished to learn the american legal system runs on word and has ultimate faith in 'track changes' <<< no small part of why it's a joke. << which country does not use Word?	[15:54]
ben_vulpes	b,tmsr~	[15:55]
thestringpuller	!b 2	[15:56]
BingoBoingo	locally I hear Wordperfect is rather popular	[15:56]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3SH7N5R.txt )	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	punkman which country's derpage about "sovereignity" and you know, generally being a state isn't a joke ?	[15:56]
ben_vulpes	i've never seen contracts around here run anywhere near what bezzlelandia contracts do	[15:56]
punkman	signed vdiffs would be a good solution for contract changes btw	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	quite.	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	v is a universal solution for many problems.	[15:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00049833 = 13.4549 BTC [+] {3}	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	right off the top of my head : both medical diagnostics and inventory management should be run off v.	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	imagine a supermarket with v inventory management. fully fucking auditable!	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	"who signed for this going out ?"	[15:57]
*	mircea_popescu foresees a juicy consulting future for the overhaul of fiat world towards v-dom	[15:58]
ben_vulpes	no but no but we'll do inventory in the blockchain meerka	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	yaya	[15:59]
ben_vulpes	but not the bitcoin blockchain that's sacred or something so i have a new one	[15:59]
ben_vulpes	supplychain	[15:59]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: but if it's not on the blockchain!!!!11111	[15:59]
thestringpuller	why does everyone want to write everything to the blockchain...	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	why did everyone in the 70s wear those idiotic bellbottoms ? what the fuck is with 80s hair ? how come every woman on okcupid today is bisexual ?	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	;;google kink high	[16:00]
gribble	Kink High Rise Stem at Dan's Comp: ; Kink BMX – Highrise: ; Martin Luther King High School / Homepage:	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	pff	[16:00]
thestringpuller	LOL	[16:00]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: come on bellbottoms were cool af	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	you' e thinking of the hot asses that'd have looked hot if dressed in mud.	[16:01]
thestringpuller	I guess so, I love being at work and seeing chicks in those skinny jeans.	[16:01]
thestringpuller	but i guess beign slathered in mud would be just as good.	[16:01]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: how come every woman on okcupid today is bisexual ? << i thought that every girl born after 1990 was bisexual.	[16:05]
mircea_popescu	seems more like 85	[16:05]
BingoBoingo	but not the bitcoin blockchain that's sacred or something so i have a new one << The reason for this is they are 6 years behind. By the time they get to alt v altcoins will have done their damage	[16:05]
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mircea_popescu	it is and always has been the curse of the lame that they dun know where's da party at.	[16:07]
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thestringpuller	https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3z56t9/bitcoin_the_homeless/ << what's with derps wanting to use Bitcoin to prevent poverty. cuz u kno givin free m0nie to homeless fixes poverty!!!111	[16:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44214 @ 0.00049727 = 21.9863 BTC [-] {3}	[16:15]
thestringpuller	whatever happened to sean's outpost nonsense?	[16:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16036 @ 0.0004968 = 7.9667 BTC [-] {2}	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	leah goodman moved there.	[16:17]
phf	When wasteful war shall datacenter overturn,/ icann no longer keeps the record of domain/ Nor Mars his sword nor war’s quick fire shall burn/ The cryptographic record of blockchain.	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	keep the dayjob.	[16:26]
phf	heheh, indeed	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	inverse measure of bitcoin mainstream penetration : about 0.3% of females and as high as .7% of males ask me if i'm the mpex mp. (the female sample is ~2k ; the male ~3k - not my fault, just males are about 100x more responsive to a profile visit than females for some reason. then again... about half of them are so fucking threatened by homosexuality they feel compelled to either point out to me that they're not gay, "	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	insult" me by saying i'm gay or else go into total shitfest mode. apparently "someone visited my profile" is A REALLY BIG FUCKING DEAL. but anyway)	[16:32]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: You don't understand. For these people a profile visit IS a big deal. It's the closest they'll get to interacting with another person evar.	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[16:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00049851 = 6.5305 BTC [+] {2}	[16:40]
BingoBoingo	These people don't rate/like each other, they don't message each other, they scroll through lists and OCCASIONALLY visit profiles. Because they site attract certain kinds of neuroses. It's why the fuckable girls don't last on there.	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	i dunno man... since i bitched here bout them being all short / that email showed up it's been the fucking vegas back room in here.	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	i spent all morning going through a line of 1.80 hotties.	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	im starting to think these dudes ACTUALLY DO segregate the userbase.	[16:41]
BingoBoingo	That's not news	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	and seeing how somehow, inexplicably, out of 100k+ dudes online DAILY during A FUCKING DECADE i;m the only one with a working copy of the bourne shell, i became king of the hill or something.	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	there you go asciilifeform, that's what explains fucking walled ghetos, the app store, word and what have you.	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	A FUCKING DECADE. hundred thousand males. looking for cunt. still've not figured out how to... curl it into submission. wide fucking open, but an open door's only open if someone has any automotive power whatsoever.	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	dumb as rocks just got a whole new meaning.	[16:43]
BingoBoingo	https://archive.is/E2VHV	[16:44]
assbot	Iran's blogfather: Facebook, Instagram and Twitter are killing the web \| Technology \| The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1JlRsxg )	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	lazy dumb conformist fucks are killing the fucking world, one kitten at a time.	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	in other news, "Odio la sociedad actual, los pretenciosos, irreverentes, neo-feministas y social justice warriors, creo que no se necesita pertenecer/creer en movimientos o ideologías para hacerse respetar. "	[16:46]
phf	new take on верхи не хотят низы не могут: nerds are afraid to, jocks don't know how	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	this nerd/jock thing is such a victory in divide and conquer.	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	we didn't fucking have these in school back when i was a kid.	[16:47]
phf	nor did we	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	you could either listen to metal or else get the shit beaten out of you for being one of those depeche mode fags	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	like god fucking intended.	[16:48]
phf	it's a self fulfilling prophecy here from the divide and conquer department, "acting white". i don't do maths, i'm not a nerd. i don't fuck girls, i'm not a jock.	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	and if you do maths and fuck girls ?	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	why the fuck would you not either.	[16:49]
phf	in u.s. you're an anomaly, at least that was my experience, everything's extremely segregated.	[16:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24366 @ 0.00049658 = 12.0997 BTC [-]	[16:57]
BingoBoingo	phf: Because that's a necessary prerequisite to marketing	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	^	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	go up to cow, ask it if it's dairy cow or meat cow.	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	dairy cow explaining to its insufferable litter, "oh, you wanna work really hard in cowschool be a diary cow just like mom! those meat cows have it so much worse, it's way better to be bled bit by bit than cut apart in one go!"	[16:58]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23691 @ 0.00049937 = 11.8306 BTC [+] {4}	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	there you go BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/okc-weirdo-1.png http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/okc-weirdo-2.png http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/okc-weirdo-3.png etc.	[17:17]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Vx6oKt )	[17:17]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Vx6oKx )	[17:17]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Vx6m5s )	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck needs reddit anymore. straight males in america!	[17:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67450 @ 0.00050075 = 33.7756 BTC [+] {3}	[17:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10812 @ 0.00049658 = 5.369 BTC [-]	[17:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33838 @ 0.00049584 = 16.7782 BTC [-] {4}	[17:22]
phf	i like how the first one uses protective incantations. "henceforth and therefore ipso facto ... DATABASES!"	[17:23]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu listens to metal now	[17:23]
mircea_popescu	well not now. but when i was 16	[17:23]
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mod6	haha 'psychic height readers'	[17:25]
mircea_popescu	it's like a nut factory out there.	[17:26]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: you ever see reddit trying to get girls? it's not pretty.	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[17:28]
BingoBoingo	lol mircea_popescu	[17:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25094 @ 0.00049521 = 12.4268 BTC [-] {2}	[17:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5895 @ 0.000504 = 2.9711 BTC [+] {3}	[17:38]
davout	ohai cult, also happy new year!	[17:45]
BingoBoingo	ohai davout	[17:47]
mod6	hny davout	[17:47]
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mircea_popescu	they have new years in france too ?!	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	i thought they just reused the same one.	[17:48]
davout	we tried going on strike but 2016 came anyway, so meh	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	lolz	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	in other news, very convenient local shop i use for seafood ? closed for the holidays	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	UNTIL THE 18TH!	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	there are numerous places that close down FOR ALL OF DECEMBER.	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	and people give the french a hard time.	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	i don't think there exists an argentine that did a year's honest work total in his entire life.	[17:50]
davout	guess your december is our august	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	maybe some 107 year old somewhere on the border with chile or something.	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	davout hey, at least you have the muslims to hopefully kill all the males and rape all the females, reset the shithole.	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	all they got here are paraguayans, and they're short and few.	[17:51]
davout	paris is such a nice place in august, emptied of the dumbass parisians, and full of defenseless young american tourists	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	yeah, until a pipe cracks,	[17:51]
davout	not sure what you mean	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	cuz you'll have to find an american tourist that's also a plumber	[17:53]
deedbot-	[Qntra] Lead Top Performing Metal of 2015 - http://qntra.net/2016/01/lead-top-performing-metal-of-2015/	[17:53]
BingoBoingo	^ In altcoin news	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	check it out we have a metals desk now ?	[17:56]
BingoBoingo	I heard it on the radio when driving for fresh cigarettes came back and confirmed while also seeing no one making this an internet print headline	[17:57]
BingoBoingo	spammy radio investing show had this headline on their AM band advertorial show, but not actual news outlets. After confirming with charts was too good to leave to spammers while the rest of the media is hungover.	[17:59]
davout	don't give out all your tricks like that!	[17:59]
BingoBoingo	Could be misdirection in an effort to get lurking competition to waste braincycles	[18:01]
davout	now you're giving away your deception tricks too	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	eh what brain cycles.	[18:02]
BingoBoingo	The precious few they have to spare after respiration is accounted for	[18:03]
BingoBoingo	It's not just distracting to them, actually life endangering	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	heh	[18:08]
BingoBoingo	Also there's people who are going to get the strategy wrong and waste time listening to low information talk radio with ear time instead of using their ears for anything else	[18:12]
assbot	It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[18:15]
BingoBoingo	!t m s.mg	[18:16]
assbot	The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.	[18:16]
BingoBoingo	!t m x.eur	[18:16]
assbot	[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00260472 / 0.00260493 / 0.00260623 (625 shares, 1.63 BTC), 7D: 0.00253536 / 0.0025824 / 0.00262332 (2731 shares, 7.05 BTC), 30D: 0.00061753 / 0.00218377 / 0.00282306 (14017 shares, 30.61 BTC)	[18:16]
jurov	it's assbot's way of telling these assets did not trade last month	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	yuppers	[18:21]
jurov	asciilifeform: turdatron mystery solved, gpg says you signed "aws banhammer" using old key	[18:21]
jurov	gpg: Signature made So 26. december 2015, 01:37:34 CET using RSA key ID 01ABFFC7	[18:21]
jurov	gpg: Good signature from "Stanislav Datskovskiy " [expired]	[18:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4216 @ 0.00049502 = 2.087 BTC [-]	[18:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00049502 = 12.3507 BTC [-]	[18:29]
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jurov	(and it ignores expiry date)	[18:36]
jurov	!up Guest76880	[18:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9186 @ 0.00049502 = 4.5473 BTC [-]	[18:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5185 @ 0.00050022 = 2.5936 BTC [+] {2}	[18:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18015 @ 0.00050402 = 9.0799 BTC [+]	[18:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8275 @ 0.0005001 = 4.1383 BTC [-] {2}	[18:56]
jurov	deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201512.txt.asc	[18:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.0005001 = 8.7017 BTC [-]	[18:59]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1YXcIR6 )	[18:59]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[18:59]
jurov	deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160102/attachment_0451ec0ba3062d4608318f96270dd7c9f65e42e1.txt	[18:59]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1YXcQ31 )	[18:59]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	le cool.	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	how was vacation jurov ?	[19:00]
jurov	very good	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	cool!	[19:03]
jurov	just sun and frost whole time, no snow at all. but we did not miss it, ended up hiking around in the mountains	[19:04]
BingoBoingo	Sweet	[19:04]
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mircea_popescu	in some random butthurt, http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/utah-billboard-promotes-dating-site-whites-people-article-1.2483055	[19:23]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1YXhcXO )	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	somehow they manage to go through that entire textgoop and not mention the thing's an obvious ripoff off some blackpeopledate thing.	[19:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.0005001 = 1.4548 BTC [-]	[19:24]
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thestringpuller	!gettrust jstolfi	[19:31]
assbot	jstolfi is not registered in WoT.	[19:31]
davout	no shit	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	is this the attention whore that "quit reddit" for a week or something over "threats" ?	[19:33]
davout	precisely	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	must suck to suck.	[19:34]
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shinohai	Heh I have seen jstofli in buttcoin and btctalk. He considers himself highly-educated on all topics Bitcoin despite not liking BTC at all, or so he claims.	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	if memory serves he was a thirld world "grad student" or somesuch.	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	;;ud dtf	[19:40]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DTF \| DOWN TO GET THAT DICK DTFNE1 down to fuck any 1. She's DTF, She wants my dick in or around her mouth! - SuperBad. by KENDALL L January 01, 2008.	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	the shit i'm learning.	[19:41]
shinohai	Yeah he is a grad student from Brasil.	[19:41]
davout	doesn't look like it: http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/	[19:43]
assbot	Jorge Stolfi - Homepage/Página inicial ... ( http://bit.ly/1kB3eYI )	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	;;google "Universidade Estadual de Campinas" rating	[19:43]
gribble	Universidade Estadual de Campinas (Unicamp) \| Undergraduate ...: ; Universidade Estadual de Campinas (Unicamp) Rankings \| Top ...: ; University of Campinas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message)	[19:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15916 @ 0.00049551 = 7.8865 BTC [-]	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	"Currently UNICAMP offers undergraduate degrees in 66 majors, including medicine, dentistry, several engineering specializations, basic natural and human sciences, applied sciences, teaching and arts. Its admission process is one of the most competitive in Brazil, with nearly 52,000 candidates for 3310 incoming students. Undergraduate education at UNICAMP is provided by the State of São Paulo for all its students free	[19:44]
mircea_popescu	of charge. In addition, housing, meals, transportation and a living stipend may also be provided on a need basis, so that of the 16,700 undergraduate students at UNICAMP, over 2,200 receive some support. Undergraduate education at UNICAMP operates in three campuses: the School of Dentistry in Piracicaba, the College of Applied Sciences and the College of Technology in Limeira"	[19:44]
mircea_popescu	apparently it's an actual university, check that out.	[19:45]
shinohai	heh	[19:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00049516 = 11.7105 BTC [-] {2}	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	"Unicamp went from the 44th to the 28th position on the list of the world's top 100 universities under 50 years old, according to the ranking released on Wednesday (19) by Times Higher Education (THE), one of the most important institutions of evaluation of the higher education."	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	now this i gotta see.	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2014#sorting=rank+region=+country=+faculty=+stars=false+search= << lies. they're not in the top 50.	[19:49]
assbot	QS World University Rankings® 2014/15 \| Top Universities ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXlFK6 )	[19:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00049502 = 17.4247 BTC [-] {2}	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	not in top 100 either.	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	anyway, whatevs.	[19:52]
shinohai	https://i.imgur.com/nGwtpDP.jpg <<< Rather alluring despite the tats	[19:55]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1kB44EP )	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	is allure codeword for nice ass ?	[19:57]
shinohai	Sumthin like that	[20:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4308 @ 0.00049942 = 2.1515 BTC [+] {2}	[20:02]
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pete_dushenski	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM-Q_zpuJGU << in which hussein bahamas makes a pilgrimage to the mecca of clean comedy	[20:06]
assbot	Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee: "Just Tell Him You’re The President” (Season 7, Episode 1) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXoquS )	[20:06]
pete_dushenski	(jerry seinfeld)	[20:06]
mircea_popescu	a show named after a boring pets thing got 7 seasons ?	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	my god has tv died	[20:07]
pete_dushenski	they're properly webisodes	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	;;google hussein bahamas in funny hats through a wide angle lens	[20:08]
gribble	Mars Curiosity: Internet pranksters set to work on viral pictures with ...: ; Did Google Street View capture a UFO in Missouri? Experts weigh in ...:	[20:08]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359256 << that's just about the worst thing that western europe could've ever exported. /me is glad that canada has no such affliction	[20:08]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 20:48:06; mircea_popescu: UNTIL THE 18TH!	[20:08]
pete_dushenski	speaking of albertastan, i wonder how hard it would be to track down that 31 yo romo-ish event-planner-cum-banker chickie. she can't be far away.	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	and do what ?	[20:10]
pete_dushenski	i'm sure she'd be thrilled to hear that her reputation precedes her	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	lol.	[20:10]
pete_dushenski	not even ironically !	[20:11]
pete_dushenski	"oh i'm so wounded, i mean flattered"	[20:11]
pete_dushenski	eh, if i ever so happen to cross paths with her, i'll poke her with an ascerbic stick and then run away like the little junior high boy i am, singing merrily about how nowhere's safe from the internet	[20:13]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359203 << hot damn that's tall.. you trying to make more pantagruels or something ?	[20:16]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 19:39:32; mircea_popescu: i spent all morning going through a line of 1.80 hotties.	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	but...why ?	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	some random chick, what's the big deal.	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	anyway. i'm fucking tall, i like tall chicks... it's an eastern european thing.	[20:18]
pete_dushenski	lol twas a just a joke. my fillie is 1.78m tall	[20:19]
pete_dushenski	I KNOW YOU'RE NOT HAVING KIDS	[20:19]
pete_dushenski	i'm sure my little pantagruel will be dating chicks 1.9m+ if he gets anywhere near the 2.0m+ he's on track for.	[20:21]
pete_dushenski	anyways, bbias	[20:21]
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mircea_popescu	!up gentoognuhurd	[20:33]
-assbot-	You voiced gentoognuhurd for 30 minutes.	[20:33]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_rear	[20:55]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_rear for 30 minutes.	[20:55]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_rear	[21:38]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_rear for 30 minutes.	[21:38]
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ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359290 << mno	[22:06]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 21:19:43; jurov: asciilifeform: turdatron mystery solved, gpg says you signed "aws banhammer" using old key	[22:06]
ascii_rear	something is very broken.	[22:06]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359380 << meowmix!!??	[22:07]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 23:31:53; mircea_popescu: !up gentoognuhurd	[22:07]
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pete_dushenski	!up ascii_rear	[22:10]
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ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359207 << the crackpottery is new. or rather, it dud nit exist a decade ago when i last gave a fuck	[22:12]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 19:41:08; mircea_popescu: there you go asciilifeform, that's what explains fucking walled ghetos, the app store, word and what have you.	[22:12]
pete_dushenski	"There's a reason all the cheapo whores of the Victorian empire drank gin. It's one step above wood distillate for fucks sake (of course in the newfound poverty of the end of the world, even that is making a come-back - hey, why did you think absinth was popular in the 1800s ?). Gin drinking investment bankers, help me Rwanda." << in case no one else can stomach that video of bahamas and seinfeld posted above, i	[22:12]
pete_dushenski	'll just point out that he takes a swig of gin mid-sentence while waxing nostalgic about teddy roosevelt. heh.	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	i kinda lost all hope for the bahamas schmuck after his pathetic whitehouse dinner with some it luminaries or something	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	packed like fucking sardines.	[22:14]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359165 << at last we can achieve the high-tech marvels of... babylon.	[22:16]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 18:55:33; mircea_popescu: right off the top of my head : both medical diagnostics and inventory management should be run off v.	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[22:17]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359140 << academia also.	[22:17]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 18:45:10; mircea_popescu: * ben_vulpes was astonished to learn the american legal system runs on word and has ultimate faith in 'track changes' <<< no small part of why it's a joke.	[22:17]
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ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359148 << neato!!	[22:19]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 18:48:05; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my pleasure to inform you 256gb. have fun.	[22:19]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359123 << fwiw i have it fully librarified	[22:23]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 17:40:12; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359041 << while in theory there is no way to enforce them in practice there is no alternative to the gpg c-ball, and so therefore similarly to how the thing resists librarification it also enforces key expiration. until mpex doesn't respect key expiration, it /is/ enforced.	[22:23]
ascii_rear	static, de-#ifdef'd, etc.	[22:24]
ascii_rear	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359106 << it only works on folks 'with no theorems to prove'	[22:25]
assbot	Logged on 02-01-2016 17:02:20; thestringpuller: well Blizzard is known for turning games into digital crack of some sort. some people get highly addicted despite how shitty the game is and stay hooked for years. It's not really a viable gameplay model, more just "here is some crack have fun".	[22:25]
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pete_dushenski	last comment on bahamas video : it ends with him behind the wheel of 63 corvette split-window, asking gate guard if he can please leave the white house compound to go grab a coffee with jerrrry, guard says "no," then bahamas just shrugs it off AND TURNS AROUND. "well that's unbelievable, golly" he says. /me cannot imagine putin, merkel, or goddam trudeau taking it on the chin like this.	[22:27]
pete_dushenski	seriously, what leader of the free world ? he isn't the leader of his own backyard.	[22:27]
pete_dushenski	in other nyooz, http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4747125,00.html	[22:28]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1R411nb )	[22:28]
pete_dushenski	"First kosher marijuana to go on sale in New York"	[22:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10104 @ 0.00049678 = 5.0195 BTC [+] {2}	[22:34]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-01-2016#1359407 << no shit?! that's monumental.	[22:46]
assbot	Logged on 03-01-2016 01:21:44; ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359123 << fwiw i have it fully librarified	[22:46]
pete_dushenski	nah, that's shiva	[22:48]
ben_vulpes	'shiva' dramatically undervalues the work that went into undoing a bastion of the crypto wars, pete_dushenski	[22:49]
pete_dushenski	lol relax ben. it's saturday night, grab a drink. and relax.	[22:50]
ben_vulpes	"oh it's just alf lol doing in an afternoon what the usg dreamt of doing all throughout the ninedies"	[22:50]
ben_vulpes	quip on	[22:51]
pete_dushenski	relax on :P	[22:53]
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*	pete_dushenski looking for movie to see tonight in theatres (maybe even something quippy!) but finding little of interest yet. open to recommendations.	[23:00]
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pete_dushenski	"The University of Guelph’s Food Institute estimates the average Canadian household spent an additional $325 on food this year. On top of that, consumers should expect an additional annual increase of about $345 in 2016." << because my $1k/mo is apparently inadequate. yaaaay cdn !	[23:04]
pete_dushenski	http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/if-you-think-groceries-are-expensive-now-brace-for-more-sticker-shock-in-2016 << or how canadian's justify getting poorer and poorer	[23:05]
assbot	If you think groceries are expensive now, brace for more sticker shock in 2016 \| Financial Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1kBkkG7 )	[23:05]
pete_dushenski	"“There’s all kinds of reasons why we should be using and enjoying our pulses more. They’re affordable, they’re nutritious, they have a great source of protein, they have a low environmental footprint,” Stewart said." << spreading works !	[23:06]
pete_dushenski	"Frozen and canned produce can be great alternatives when a particular fruit or vegetable spikes in price" <--> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-11-2015#1324420	[23:07]
assbot	Logged on 15-11-2015 00:13:28; mircea_popescu: "what is this ?" "vegetables and rice" "no it isn't. where you got these ?" "oh, they come in very convenient bags, frozen" "are you fucking crazy ?!"	[23:07]
pete_dushenski	from same fishwrap, http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/joe-oliver-ontarios-fiscal-train-wreck, basically confirming that, without alberta's oilconomy, canada is going to hell in a handbasket.	[23:08]
assbot	Joe Oliver: Ontario’s fiscal train wreck \| Financial Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1kBkBJ5 )	[23:09]
pete_dushenski	"Ontario is the largest sub-national debtor in the entire world, just one alarming distinction. Its debt is more than twice that of California, a state with three times the population and one that has its own severe fiscal problems. Its debt is $294 billion, or over $21,000 per capita. Net debt to GDP is up 48 per cent in the past 10 years to almost 40 per cent, second only to Quebec. Last year’s interest obli	[23:09]
pete_dushenski	gations totalled $11.4 billion, about the same as the cost of community and social services."	[23:09]
pete_dushenski	obligatory : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-12-2015#1337159	[23:10]
assbot	Logged on 06-12-2015 05:42:10; pete_dushenski: leave the fucktarded "real estate is our most thriving industry" torontonians for dead already	[23:10]
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BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: So when's contravex getting an archives page?	[23:47]
pete_dushenski	i re-implemented the search function and added a drop-down archives box in the right column	[23:48]
pete_dushenski	i can't seem to maintain both a static single post on the front page and a full list in the archives. seems to be one or the other in this theme.	[23:48]
BingoBoingo	No, no an actual page with the titles of everything. You know something for people to search	[23:49]
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BingoBoingo	paginated by month, year, day is no good.	[23:49]
pete_dushenski	i agree. i also have yet to find a suitable solution. any recommendations ? can qntra's style be copies perhaps ?	[23:51]
BingoBoingo	trilema can get away with one because trilema is indexed so well by google for nsa purposes. finding clever things pete_dushenski wrote when I was recapping 2015 in Bitcoin was very different. Very painful.	[23:51]
pete_dushenski	heh. ya, my apologies.	[23:51]
pete_dushenski	copied*	[23:52]
BingoBoingo	The code that generateds part of the archives list is borrowed from a plugin	[23:52]
BingoBoingo	the bulk of the page though is static'd	[23:52]
BingoBoingo	Because one can't add new posts to history.	[23:52]
BingoBoingo	But the way to do these things is find code that almost does what you want and delete parts until it does exactly what you want	[23:53]
BingoBoingo	If you want to be a real dick instead of an archives page you can do a post "Complete Contravex Archives" that continually updates itself.	[23:54]
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pete_dushenski	http://www.contravex.com/archives/	[23:57]
assbot	Archives \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZH2hxS )	[23:57]
pete_dushenski	only downside is no preview blurbs, but overall, great success !	[23:58]
pete_dushenski	cheers bb !!	[23:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55100 @ 0.00050521 = 27.8371 BTC [+] {5}	[23:59]

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