Forum logs for 02 Aug 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu | i have little idea about canada | [00:00] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 3.3332 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/776/ Odds: 24(Y):76(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 21.25194745 BTC. Current weight: 47,753. | [00:02] |
pete_dushenski | suffice to say that nubbins` and i are 6,000km away from each other, and could be 7-8000 apart and still considered "in the same country" | [00:02] |
thickasthieves | <+mircea_popescu> what the fuck is with these social media people, srsly. they'll take the faintest hint of nothing as clear proof of their importance. //// If it's measurable, it has value! | [00:03] |
mircea_popescu | well canada's only one country on the grounds of there not being enough people in it to pay for two parliaments, amirite ? | [00:03] |
pete_dushenski | brings to mind douglas adams' : "Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space. | [00:03] |
mircea_popescu | thickasthieves you may be on to something thar. | [00:03] |
mircea_popescu | "I let myself get LJBF'ed" | [00:04] |
mircea_popescu | fucking social media english, it's practically chinese by now. | [00:04] |
mircea_popescu | everyone got his own little ideographics and i need a dictionary to wade through the sad produce of idiots who can't be bothered to learn a language well. | [00:04] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ud ljbf | [00:05] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LJBF | LJBF. Abbreviation for "Lets Just Be Friends". Used mostly by women to indicate that they don't want a romantic relationship, but don't mind receiving attention ... | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | derp. | [00:05] |
pete_dushenski | lol | [00:05] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: there are less populous countries than canada, but none on anywhere near this much land | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg << that's pretty great. why does it look like diablo ?! | [00:06] |
pete_dushenski | there's plenty of lebensraum to go around | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | i don't recall that cutscene in diablo. | [00:06] |
justusranvier | So that tweet yesterday was apparently a bad idea. It just encourages them: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/08/01/homeopaths-and-ebola-virus-hemorrhagic-fever/ | [00:08] |
assbot | Homeopaths vs. Ebola virus hemorrhagic fever – Respectful Insolence | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | "I can only imagine what a productive member of civilization i would be IF i was brought up with masculine values and was sexually sated. Instead i spent my life living out the following tale trying to figure out what my problem was and living as a manic bipolar depressive. Instead here i sit, a MGTOW, never finding enough reason or desire to become productive beyond my own means." | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | jesus this is like... the perfect excuse, isn't it ? "i can only imagine how productive i'd be if". har har. | [00:09] |
pete_dushenski | … if i wasn't addicted to ice cream and ate a tub every single night | [00:09] |
pete_dushenski | this kinda shit is pervasive | [00:09] |
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pete_dushenski | helps with the sleeps | [00:10] |
mircea_popescu | justusranvier what, they're going to africa to treat ebola through hidration ? | [00:10] |
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mircea_popescu | not a bad idea, supportive care helps some. | [00:10] |
justusranvier | No, they inventing fake remedies from massively dilluted rattlesnake venom and selling them. | [00:11] |
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justusranvier | "If you're bleeding through your nose, use a 30 C dillution, if it gets worse and you start bleeding from your eyeballs, then increase the dilution to 50C!" | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | how's one to drink stuff at 50 degrees ? | [00:12] |
xanthyos | hi | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | or is it for rubbing or something | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | ello xanthyos | [00:12] |
justusranvier | In homoeopathy, C is a measure of dilution | [00:12] |
justusranvier | a 30C solution is duluted to 1x10^-300 of its original value | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | uh | [00:13] |
justusranvier | mean 10^60 | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | wait. | [00:14] |
justusranvier | 10^60 | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | there's not an infinity of molecules in that solution | [00:14] |
justusranvier | Damn ii. 1x10^-60 | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | you can't really dilute anything past 10^-20ish or so. | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | even that's iffy. | [00:14] |
justusranvier | Exactly. That's why homeopathy is a scam | [00:14] |
justusranvier | It's just distilled placebo water | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | no lol. it doesn't work at less dillution either :) | [00:14] |
justusranvier | There are many reasons why homeopathy is a scam | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | but yeah, i suppose it's a good proof they don't grok objective reality. | [00:15] |
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xanthyos | homeopathy doesn't require any molecules of the original solution to remain. the theory is that it changes the resonance of surrounding water molecules in the same way that ice-nine worked in kurt vonnegut's "cat's cradle" | [00:16] |
xanthyos | 6.02 X 10^23 hydrogens weighs 1 gram | [00:17] |
xanthyos | so 10^60 is 37 orders of magnitude less concentrated than that | [00:18] |
justusranvier | There are people who sell higher than 30C dilutions | [00:18] |
The20YearIRCloud | i have a theory that everyone on the internet is a computer designed to interact with me. The reality is there was a global war 40 years ago that went nuclear, all countries do not exist, the US is the only one left | [00:18] |
xanthyos | i tried to make homeopathic OJ by diluting it. it's just too sweet | [00:19] |
xanthyos | then i got scurvy | [00:19] |
The20YearIRCloud | I have never been outside of the United States, therefore it can't be prove that other countries do exist. | [00:19] |
xanthyos | google earth is the proof | [00:19] |
The20YearIRCloud | The sentient computer systems set up to emulate foreigner behavior makes said maps | [00:20] |
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xanthyos | why would a computer run that emulation when it seems so inefficient | [00:21] |
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ben_vulpes | http://groupthink.jezebel.com/traditional-masculinity-and-sexual-preferences-1614373452 | [00:23] |
assbot | Traditional Masculinity and Sexual Preferences | [00:23] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00082824 = 6.5017 BTC [+] {2} | [00:38] |
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pete_dushenski | ;;bc,stats | [00:43] |
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gribble | Current Blocks: 313552 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 943 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 18 hours, 50 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19905350928.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.23869 | [00:43] |
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pete_dushenski | ;;nethash | [00:43] |
gribble | 148350542.708 | [00:43] |
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pete_dushenski | heya ColinT | [00:46] |
pete_dushenski | !up ColinT | [00:47] |
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ColinT | THanks bro! | [00:47] |
ColinT | You a regular in here? :D | [00:47] |
pete_dushenski | that i am | [00:47] |
pete_dushenski | your first time? | [00:47] |
ColinT | Kewlies | [00:47] |
ColinT | I set it to join at some point - never really chatted in here though | [00:48] |
pete_dushenski | cool. what brings you by today? | [00:48] |
ColinT | Nothing, client just automatically joins it | [00:48] |
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pete_dushenski | ColinT: that works :) | [00:50] |
pete_dushenski | what are you working on these days? | [00:50] |
xanthyos | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxNFualoPBg | [00:51] |
assbot | boy on a bike - YouTube | [00:51] |
ColinT | Last couple months been going hard on a social location app for a client | [00:51] |
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ColinT | Not Bitcoin unfortunately, but not terrible! | [00:51] |
pete_dushenski | not at all | [00:52] |
mod6 | %t | [00:52] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 204 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 25k High: 205 Low: 203 VWAP: 204 | [00:53] |
ColinT | What's new with you, holding luncheons, putting up posters? :D Hustle? | [00:53] |
pete_dushenski | ColinT we have a few other app developers in here, such as ben_vulpes | [00:53] |
ColinT | Oh cool, greetings ben_vulpes! | [00:54] |
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pete_dushenski | i'm working on a few projects | [00:54] |
pete_dushenski | bitcoin-related stuff is blogging, hanging out here, and meet-ups | [00:54] |
pete_dushenski | bit of brokering | [00:55] |
pete_dushenski | non-bitcoin stuff is family biz | [00:55] |
ColinT | Oh okay, yeah I didn't know if you were BTC full-time or not | [00:55] |
pete_dushenski | need more skillz and knowledge for that. so here i am, sponging it up | [00:56] |
ColinT | I can't imagine a better plan! | [00:58] |
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pete_dushenski | yup, it's pretty much been 6 months since i dropped down here, so right on track as per http://contravex.com/2014/03/17/irc-yeshiva/ | [00:58] |
assbot | IRC Yeshiva | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski | [00:59] |
pete_dushenski | i started reading the logs daily in december 2013 | [01:00] |
ColinT | IRC Yeshiva eh heh? | [01:00] |
pete_dushenski | ;;ud yeshiva | [01:00] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yeshiva | pl. Yeshivot 1. A Rabbinical Seminary in which young men studied Talmud under the guidance of learned Rabbis. The Yeshiva was a prominent part of E... | [01:00] |
pete_dushenski | not bad | [01:00] |
ColinT | I'm not Jewish ;D | [01:01] |
ColinT | I just call it research I guess heh | [01:01] |
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pete_dushenski | chetty: An English blogger writing for the Nomen Global Language Center in Utah was fired for posting about ?homophones? last week after his employer said the word was too close to ?homosexual? and ?homophobe.? << holy sweet mother of retardistan | [01:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00083014 = 8.0524 BTC [+] | [01:04] |
pete_dushenski | ColinT: research sounds too solitary | [01:05] |
chetty | sadly this sort of outrage is showing up daily | [01:05] |
ColinT | Gosh, all my research seems social ;D | [01:05] |
pete_dushenski | it's more like camp for smart kids | [01:05] |
pete_dushenski | chetty: sorta how it ends | [01:06] |
ColinT | I'm not sure humans are the greatest at coming to intelligent conclusions in groups | [01:06] |
ColinT | Too much subconscious "monkey psychology" | [01:07] |
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ColinT | I would so most of my research is solitary, not social | [01:07] |
ColinT | say* | [01:07] |
chetty | ColinT, this group, if you can call it that never seems to reach conclusions, just send all away with more homework | [01:08] |
ColinT | I'm not someone who thinks rationally in groups - because groups of people don't think rationally | [01:08] |
ColinT | Haha | [01:08] |
pete_dushenski | well, the people here aren't just "humans," we're full fledged people | [01:08] |
ColinT | What is this some kind of cult? | [01:08] |
pete_dushenski | so we do come to some pretty intelligent conclusions | [01:08] |
chetty | nah, cults have leaders and ideas, a real lack of both around here | [01:08] |
pete_dushenski | rationalism is overrated anyways | [01:08] |
pete_dushenski | chetty: lol | [01:09] |
ColinT | Logical thinking is over-rated? ;D | [01:09] |
ColinT | Nothing works without logic... Not even people | [01:09] |
ColinT | Not even irrational people | [01:09] |
pete_dushenski | logical =/= rational | [01:09] |
ColinT | Emotion is still a type of logic | [01:09] |
chetty | well the odd thought flow here tends to but unusal ideas next to each opther, produces some very interesting results | [01:09] |
mircea_popescu | [01:09] | |
mircea_popescu | but no, emotion ain't no type o' logic i ever heard of. | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | they speak english in emotion ? | [01:10] |
ColinT | Human emotions are neural network based.. | [01:11] |
ColinT | So they are computed yes | [01:11] |
chetty | I think there are some hormones in taht mix .. | [01:12] |
ColinT | If we didn't feel pain when we put our hands on a hot stove - that would be a problem | [01:12] |
ColinT | It's a type of reasoning that we do subconsciously in order to guide our actions in the world - it's implications go beyond hot stoves though | [01:13] |
mircea_popescu | computed != logic. | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | everything's "computed", water in a glass included. | [01:14] |
ColinT | Not sure I follow | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | logic is a very narrowly, absolutely defined subclass of "computed" | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | ColinT a glass full of water is a glass-sized computator for water molecule position within a glass inside a gravitational field. | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | this does not make it logic. | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | the major point of difference being that out of the glass, of water or of emotion, one can extract usable entropy. not so from logic, at all. | [01:16] |
ColinT | But using it as a "computator", or its use as a "computator" has it following logical rules... | [01:16] |
ColinT | As long as you don't change the shape of the glass, the gravitational field, etc | [01:16] |
ColinT | I don't know what that means | [01:17] |
ColinT | "Useable entropy"? | [01:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11597 @ 0.00083126 = 9.6401 BTC [+] {2} | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. okay. | [01:18] |
pete_dushenski | !up ColinT | [01:19] |
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mircea_popescu | and on the other news front, BITCHES! http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me03z25Pi91qlne6uo1_500.jpg | [01:20] |
ColinT | Like I said, groups of people, monkeys ;D | [01:20] |
ben_vulpes | such nip | [01:20] |
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ColinT | No exception here ;D | [01:22] |
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pete_dushenski | i'm out. beer time! | [01:24] |
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ben_vulpes | ;;later tell pete_dushenski buttventures! | [01:25] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/119175001_8a502f0ba6.jpg << roflmao what bullshit is this ?! | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | that ain't maslow's pyramid for crying out loud. this is like the #1 libertard falsification topic or what ?! | [01:28] |
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ben_vulpes | hey what's the story with the GPG-login video? | [01:29] |
ben_vulpes | jurov: ping gpg login video? | [01:29] |
ben_vulpes | ;;later tell moiety gpg login video? | [01:29] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [01:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18301 @ 0.00082768 = 15.1474 BTC [-] | [01:33] |
ben_vulpes | hey linux users: how do you typically pipe stuff into your clipboard? | [01:35] |
ben_vulpes | xclip? | [01:35] |
ben_vulpes | better question: what are the major CLI clipboard interfaces on linux? xclip... | [01:36] |
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asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: what's a cli clipboard ? | [01:38] |
ben_vulpes | command-line interface to a clipboard | [01:39] |
mthreat | like pbcopy for mac | [01:39] |
ben_vulpes | precisely. | [01:39] |
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asciilifeform | that'd be... xclip | [01:40] |
mthreat | http://superuser.com/questions/288320/whats-like-osxs-pbcopy-for-linux | [01:40] |
assbot | What's like OSX's pbcopy for Linux - Super User | [01:40] |
mthreat | I googled "pbcopy for linux" | [01:40] |
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ben_vulpes | yeah, found that one. | [01:47] |
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mircea_popescu | real men use ctrl-c | [01:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00082199 = 16.933 BTC [-] {2} | [02:00] |
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kakobrekla | F.MPIF: Panacea: 2014.07; http://dpaste.com/1NT4MM0.txt | [02:22] |
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kakobrekla | not a great month, suffering lack of volatility since december, this is being addressed. | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | better than last one. | [02:25] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4156 @ 0.00082402 = 3.4246 BTC [+] | [02:38] |
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ben_vulpes | mthreat: mircea_popescu: has ars customs completely cut amazon off from delivering? | [02:49] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11187 @ 0.00082092 = 9.1836 BTC [-] | [02:59] |
mthreat | ben_vulpes: apparently it is very hard to receive stuff. I haven't even tried to order anything. | [03:03] |
ben_vulpes | mthreat: what's the in-country equivalent? | [03:03] |
mthreat | ben_vulpes: MercadoLibre.com.ar is probably the closest thing | [03:03] |
mthreat | simialr to ebay | [03:03] |
ben_vulpes | jesus fuck chrome keeps retranslating the site every time the js does something | [03:06] |
ben_vulpes | FUCK OFF | [03:06] |
ben_vulpes | RAHGHGA | [03:06] |
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ben_vulpes | ahahahahahahahahaha | [03:15] |
ben_vulpes | http://superuser.com/a/680219 | [03:15] |
assbot | linux - Encrypt tar file asymmetrically - Super User | [03:15] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12608 @ 0.00082402 = 10.3892 BTC [+] | [03:33] |
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asciilifeform | '...Plaintiffs Proposed Complaint includes a letter directed to Edward Snowden, in which Plaintiff seeks damages for any and all actions that | [03:45] |
asciilifeform | Mr. Snowden is alleged to have taken against the United States and challenges Mr. Snowden to a | [03:45] |
asciilifeform | game of poker at a casino of Mr. Snowden's choosing. (Id. at 21-30.) Finally, Plaintiff seeks to | [03:45] |
asciilifeform | recover ten duodecillion dollars in damages (llL. at 56), which is a one followed by thirty-seven | [03:45] |
asciilifeform | zeroes and equates to roughly 5.8 x 1023 times the gross domestic product of the United States.' | [03:45] |
asciilifeform | (http://cryptome.org/2014/08/purisima-snowden.pdf - mega-lol, handwritten 'lawsuit') | [03:45] |
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decimation | lol it's so crazy and yet it's written in legalese | [03:58] |
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decimation | 9. The only feasible option for your own Benefit (is "come back" and surrender Here in the U.S.A. AS WELL AS "FACE THE MUSIC," as alleged by the Interviews to you on television on or about May 2014 (TO FACE THE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST YOU). Then, I will try to TONE THE MUSIC DOWN FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN DANCE EASILY WITH YOUR FAVORITE MUSIC AS WELL AS DANCE WITH (YOUR "PARTNERS") HEREIN. | [04:00] |
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cazalla | mircea_popescu, http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg << that's pretty great. why does it look like diablo ?! <<< diablo has not looked like that for some time, she got a make over in diablo 3 | [04:01] |
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asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: measuring the OD of a tube << try archimedes. drown the tube, find displacement. then seal tube at one end, fill with water, find inner volume. what next - exercise for alert reader. | [04:02] |
ben_vulpes | paha | [04:03] |
ben_vulpes | u funny asciilifeform | [04:03] |
asciilifeform | see also the tired old childrens' puzzle with barometer. | [04:04] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: borrow a 'Pnohe' with camera. photograph end of tube with object of known size laid across diameter. count pixels... | [04:07] |
asciilifeform | (a coin, in most countries, is good to < 1%) | [04:08] |
asciilifeform | alternatively, find... a bullet. typical tolerance of caliber is near 0.001 mm | [04:10] |
asciilifeform | if easier to find bullet than coin, re-examine engineering priorities in project. | [04:11] |
asciilifeform | one more method. find and disassemble a computer. inside, search for an ic with quad flatpack (e.g. TQFP-44) package. lay tube sideways across (unpowered) pins, count pins. look up their pitch (typically 0.5mm). | [04:13] |
ben_vulpes | XD | [04:14] |
decimation | asciilifeform: FYI you can listen to that Morse code vaccuum pendulum clock on the remote shortwave receiver I linked a few days ago. | [04:14] |
ben_vulpes | okay okay i'm a retard i get it | [04:14] |
decimation | I imagine the design tolerance of an SMT part is quite tight | [04:15] |
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decimation | http://cryptome.org/2014/07/gao-14-686r.pdf | [04:21] |
decimation | If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted? | [04:23] |
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ben_vulpes | gpg --encrypt -r "$recip_1" -r "$recip_2" ... - how intersperse "-r" with the elements of $KEYS_OF_INTEREST | [04:32] |
ben_vulpes | ? | [04:32] |
ben_vulpes | wrong chan, but if anyone's of the sentiment... | [04:32] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.295 = 1.475 BTC [-] | [04:36] |
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BingoBoingo | justusranvier: There are many reasons why homeopathy is a scam, mircea_popescu: but yeah, i suppose it's a good proof they don't grok objective reality. << Homeopaths make their cheddar on conditions that test well against placebo | [04:58] |
Duffer1 | lmao | [05:01] |
Duffer1 | way to aim low | [05:01] |
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justusranvier | I just wish they'd be honest. Placebos can do some good by lowering stress, which lowers cortosol, which would otherwise get in the way of natural healing processes. | [05:02] |
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justusranvier | So homeopathy is just another way of saying "sometimes if you make people feel better they heal faster" | [05:02] |
justusranvier | It's a minor, but non-zero, effect. | [05:03] |
justusranvier | But they can't just leave it at that. They've got to cloak it in a bunch of pseudoscience bullshit | [05:03] |
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RebeccaBitcoin | Good Evening! | [05:03] |
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Duffer1 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0 | [05:04] |
assbot | That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E - YouTube | [05:05] |
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BingoBoingo | justusranvier: From an article you linked >> "What they don’t understand is that Ebola is unlikely to spread very far because it is so fatal." << What makes this new strain particularly dangerous is it is only killing ~60% of patients | [05:05] |
BingoBoingo | Evening RebeccaBitcoin | [05:06] |
RebeccaBitcoin | oo are we discussing conspiracy theories? | [05:06] |
RebeccaBitcoin | how the US infected people with ebola | [05:06] |
RebeccaBitcoin | and shot down the plane | [05:06] |
BingoBoingo | RebeccaBitcoin: Aren't we always? | [05:06] |
RebeccaBitcoin | false flag operation | [05:06] |
BingoBoingo | RebeccaBitcoin: Nah this is the one where seekrit Ebola cure gets snuck into worthless homeopathic remedies to save Obama care dollars. | [05:07] |
RebeccaBitcoin | lol | [05:07] |
justusranvier | Evolution in action. The least-successful viruses kill their hosts quickly. The better ones kill their host more slowly so they can infect more people. THe most successful ones don't make the host sick at all, and instead infect the germ line and become immortal. | [05:08] |
RebeccaBitcoin | I've always wanted to orchestrate a false flag operation. | [05:08] |
BingoBoingo | justusranvier: Exactly that | [05:08] |
justusranvier | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/02/14/mammals-made-by-viruses/ | [05:09] |
assbot | Mammals Made By Viruses : The Loom | [05:09] |
BingoBoingo | A decent percent of the human genome share dna with various traditional STD causing pathogens. | [05:11] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-july-2014/ | [05:11] |
justusranvier | The viruses that make us sick are the failures of the virus world. The virus winners are the ones that create entirely new species. | [05:11] |
RebeccaBitcoin | you say it as if viruses can think | [05:12] |
justusranvier | You don't need to be able to think in order to fail | [05:13] |
BingoBoingo | Well, technically they are roughly as living as fire | [05:13] |
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BingoBoingo | Or more virus's have all of the instructions to live, but none of the aparratus to live on their own | [05:14] |
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justusranvier | As yet, there is no proper definition of life. | [05:16] |
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justusranvier | We consider cells to be alive. We consider multicellular organisims to be alive. They aren't quite alive in the same way that so far eludes a precise definition. | [05:17] |
BingoBoingo | Which is why insist fire lives, in a minimalist sense | [05:17] |
justusranvier | There was some physicist working on a thermodynamic definition of life. | [05:17] |
justusranvier | Fire probably qualifies, even clouds maybe | [05:18] |
BingoBoingo | On the other hand... Sometimes I want to restrict my definition of living to things I could, at least in theory, eat. | [05:19] |
RebeccaBitcoin | lol | [05:20] |
RebeccaBitcoin | So humans = yes | [05:20] |
RebeccaBitcoin | dogs = yes | [05:20] |
justusranvier | Rather anthromorphic of you | [05:20] |
RebeccaBitcoin | You could eat clouds... | [05:20] |
RebeccaBitcoin | you could also eat fire | [05:20] |
RebeccaBitcoin | I guess we then have to define eat | [05:21] |
BingoBoingo | justusranvier: Well, I experience the world as homo sapiens | [05:22] |
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justusranvier | The characteristic that sets you apart from the other primates is the ability to derive universal principles and apply them. | [05:23] |
justusranvier | (Or other primate/pig hybrids, if that hypothesis turns out to be true) | [05:23] |
BingoBoingo | lol | [05:25] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.84679693 BTC. Current weight: 92,773. | [05:35] |
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BingoBoingo | !up cgcardona | [05:52] |
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cgcardona | thank you sir. :-] authing w/ gribble as we speak | [05:52] |
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cgcardona | ok done. | [05:54] |
cgcardona | good | [05:54] |
BingoBoingo | cool | [05:56] |
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mircea_popescu | i don't mean the schmucks that don't make anything. | [06:01] |
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mircea_popescu | justusranvier BingoBoingo re the virus discussion, i suppose you're familiar with the viral theory of the origin of the mitochondria | [06:02] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Indeed | [06:02] |
mircea_popescu | after all, they are genetically different (and that's why the mother dna is actually more dna than the father's) | [06:03] |
kakobrekla | looking at resolved @ bitbet front page | [06:04] |
kakobrekla | who figured out betting on 'no' works again? | [06:05] |
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BingoBoingo | Well, I may have to do some remembering... or reading... but it may have been a cellulaur organism rather than a virii that did mitochondrion | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, it may have been | [06:05] |
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BingoBoingo | mitochondria though are the ultimate example though of "If you can, you must" as having mitochondira is so much better than not having them | [06:07] |
mircea_popescu | yup | [06:09] |
mircea_popescu | and even all the trouble of getting oxigen to them, | [06:09] |
mircea_popescu | bloodstream, all the hassle of hemoglobin, the expense of feeces being 80% that | [06:09] |
mircea_popescu | kidneys, everything's worth it just to make the tiny coal plant go. | [06:09] |
mthreat | cgcardona: you lived on kauai right? | [06:11] |
BingoBoingo | I mean organisms without mitochondria still exist, but... at still greater cost in what they are limited to being. | [06:11] |
cgcardona | yea I’ve lived there off and on several times since 2002. why? | [06:11] |
asciilifeform | http://i.imgur.com/jO5ngVF.png | [06:12] |
mthreat | cgcardona: when i get back to the US in 2016, i want to live there for 3-6 months, and i'm curious about housing options | [06:12] |
asciilifeform | (^ on considerably less interesting subject than mitochondria) | [06:12] |
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aabtc | aegis agamemnon23 AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij artifexd asciilifeform assbot atcbot Azelphur | [06:13] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform lolk | [06:13] |
cgcardona | where are you now? It’s an amazing place to live. kind of expensive but worth the price for what you get | [06:13] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [06:13] |
cgcardona | of course it’s a small island so you get a little island fever after a while | [06:13] |
cgcardona | thats why my family and i like to do 3-6 months on island at a time | [06:13] |
cgcardona | but that sounds like what you’re planning so you should be good. | [06:13] |
mthreat | cgcardona: in argentina now... I spent 1 week in kauai before. I'll be taking helicopter lessons with Mauna Lao Helicopters | [06:14] |
cgcardona | oh sweet. | [06:14] |
cgcardona | yeah i’ve yet to take helicopter tour there. I really wanted to this last time but never got around to it and then we ended up leaving early. | [06:14] |
mthreat | cgcardona: they have schools on Oahu, big island, and kauai, and kauai just seems like the most beautiful of the islands | [06:14] |
cgcardona | without questions. it’s the garden island. and def the bestIMO | [06:14] |
cgcardona | its (dare I say) magical | [06:15] |
cgcardona | ⭐️ | [06:15] |
mthreat | what would you estimate a place for a couple would cost per month, with a kitchen for cooking, somewhere not too far from Lihue airport | [06:15] |
asciilifeform | ⭐️⭐️⭐️☭⭐️⭐️⭐️ | [06:16] |
asciilifeform | ^ if we're abusing unicode... | [06:16] |
cgcardona | asciilifeform: *if* we’re abusing unicode? When aren’t we abusing unicode? | [06:16] |
asciilifeform | lol | [06:16] |
cgcardona | mthreat: i was just paying 800 for a studio downstairs apartment but it was a little on the island style side of things so we upgraded to a 2 bedroom for 1500 in downtown kapaa that was baiscally like a vacation rental. very nice and clean | [06:17] |
cgcardona | so about 1500ish for something nice but relatively small. | [06:17] |
mthreat | ok cool | [06:17] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/that-aint-the-maslow-pyramid-yo/ | [06:18] |
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punkman | buen dia | [06:22] |
mircea_popescu | hola | [06:24] |
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mircea_popescu | cgcardona i bet you that's more per sq foot than the businesses in downtown san francisco can possibly afford | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | according to some shit i read in the press. | [06:25] |
cgcardona | mircea_popescu: according to some shit I read in the press Romania just got into btc | [06:26] |
cgcardona | haha | [06:26] |
cgcardona | i thought of you when I read that article. I’m like ‘huh?’ ‘wtf' | [06:26] |
mircea_popescu | well... the press lol. | [06:26] |
cgcardona | haha | [06:26] |
mircea_popescu | buncha people had this same chuckle. | [06:26] |
cgcardona | http://euronews.com/2014/07/29/romania-buys-into-bitcoin-big-time/ | [06:26] |
assbot | Romania buys into bitcoin big time | euronews, corporate | [06:26] |
cgcardona | ah ok yea I figured y’all had seen it. | [06:27] |
mircea_popescu | odds are this bunch is more numerous than the bunch that still reads romanian press. | [06:27] |
cgcardona | MP - I saw that you answered me that noone has taken you up on the ether. I’m kinda surprised. | [06:28] |
cgcardona | but I guess that was the point of the excersise at all so you’re probably not surprised | [06:28] |
mircea_popescu | im kind-of surprised. not rly, but hey. | [06:29] |
cgcardona | where is the URL for that deal? | [06:29] |
cgcardona | i’m still thinking of buying some there (yes I know the shame that will bring on me here) | [06:30] |
cgcardona | `/s/there/ether/` | [06:30] |
cgcardona | i’m still unclear if there is a hard cap on the numer of ether | [06:30] |
mircea_popescu | ;;refresh | [06:31] |
gribble | Order refresh successful, 2 orders refreshed. | [06:31] |
mircea_popescu | tis in the book. | [06:31] |
punkman | cgcardona: there's no cap | [06:31] |
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cgcardona | mircea_popescu: i still don’t totally know how to use the book | [06:31] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: article: '...player asshole narcissist dick in a NSA relationship.' << wtf is nsa relationship? | [06:31] |
cgcardona | if there are docs Ill gladly read them | [06:31] |
asciilifeform | one views the other on hidden camera? | [06:31] |
mircea_popescu | cgcardona http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php | [06:32] |
assbot | #bitcoin-otc order book | [06:32] |
cgcardona | punkman: really? hmm well I guess that means that picking up some ether hoping they increase in value probably isn’t a good idea | [06:32] |
mircea_popescu | or you could just query gribble but im usually too lazy to | [06:32] |
punkman | asciilifeform: no strings attached | [06:32] |
cgcardona | MP - thanks | [06:32] |
asciilifeform | punkman: aha | [06:32] |
asciilifeform | because that line crashed my puny brain | [06:32] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform no strings attached. | [06:32] |
punkman | asciilifeform: I liked your interpretation | [06:33] |
mircea_popescu | like, you know, how people have sex. | [06:33] |
asciilifeform | damnit, here i was, thinking 'nsa relationship' is now a standard thing | [06:33] |
mircea_popescu | it actually comes from a great bogart line, he tells slim to walk around him. | [06:33] |
mircea_popescu | "didja find any strings ?" | [06:33] |
mthreat | hehe i want to see someone use that in real life some day | [06:33] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheNUWyROv8 (same film, better known scene) | [06:35] |
assbot | Lauren Bacall Whistle - YouTube | [06:35] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: re: 'incel' article: what i always found interesting is that we always hear from the fellow who has yet to 'learn a skill become good at it' and not from the one who never learned how to safely unscrew the fuse on a woman because he had theorems to prove. | [06:35] |
mircea_popescu | guess what ? that guy's still got theorems to prove. | [06:36] |
asciilifeform | correct | [06:36] |
asciilifeform | so we don't get article. | [06:36] |
mircea_popescu | well inasmuch as we got plenty o theorems already proven.. | [06:36] |
mircea_popescu | we dun really need it either. | [06:36] |
asciilifeform | 'man: would you like a book? Chukcha (similar to eskimo, butt of soviet jokes) replies: 'thank you - i already own a book.' | [06:37] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, this entire "idiots figure they're people too" side of the internet is like a lake of stu | [06:37] |
mircea_popescu | you can paddle all around it in a big canoe | [06:37] |
asciilifeform | gedankenexperiment. imagine if it were not possible to starve to death - folks who can't find any food would, say, photosynthetize (this is not geometrically/thermodynamically possible in life, but imagine for a moment.) what would the people who have never, or almost never, eaten - write on the subject? | [06:39] |
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mircea_popescu | that it's gross, inconvenient and prolly unethical. | [06:40] |
asciilifeform | assuming hunger still worked like it does in actual world | [06:40] |
asciilifeform | i.e., you remain hungry while solar powered | [06:40] |
mircea_popescu | dude this is actually a great fucking punishment. | [06:41] |
mircea_popescu | i hope genetic engineering yields it. | [06:41] |
mircea_popescu | it'd definitely make me enjoy reading teh internets more. | [06:41] |
asciilifeform | even though man does not photosynthetize, this is rather close to reality in recent past. notice how prominently delicacies figure in old fairy tales | [06:41] |
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asciilifeform | and descriptions of feasts, in myth and legend | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | yup | [06:42] |
punkman | sloth does photosynthesis http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/28/science/the-sloths-busy-inner-life.html | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | the entire premise of norse heaven is food. | [06:42] |
assbot | Log In - The New York Times | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform you ever saw the daisies movie ? | [06:42] |
asciilifeform | sloth << sure, so does man - for vitamin 'd' | [06:42] |
asciilifeform | daisies << negative | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | it's not bad. author got banned because she displayed wastage of food. | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | 1960 czech republic. | [06:42] |
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BingoBoingo | er | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [06:43] |
asciilifeform | if anyone remembers dan mocsny (usenet crackpot linked here a while ago) - he dwelled in newsgroups devoted to 'incel' subject. | [06:44] |
asciilifeform | everyone there, as i recall, fit the overall pattern (no theorems...) | [06:44] |
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mircea_popescu | the guy i linked is actually noteworthy because he takes the dilution of rape one step further : he claims his experience's been rape. | [06:44] |
mircea_popescu | In fact, you could call this my own personal rape. I’m sure women will be up in arms for me calling it that, but what is the criteria for it? I feel shame. I am unable to talk about it with others. I will invariably be blamed for the outcome i suffered because of the way *I* acted. Being beta was ‘wearing a miniskirt’. Acting like a NiceGuy was ‘being overly flirtatious’. Respecting women and pedestalizing th | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | em was going up to a guys room at 2am for a late night coffee. | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | I deserved it for being unattractive. You deserved it for being too attractive. We both got fucked and not in the way we wanted it. You had no power and had violation inflicted upon you. I had no power or right to feel like a human being inflicted upon me. You were penetrated against your will. Feminism and woman bent me over and fucked me up the ass while laughing at me. We both wanted death. Yet i was a source of rid | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | icule, you are the poster child of Slutwalk. And so it is. | [06:45] |
asciilifeform | old. there were at least two poor devils in alt.support.somethingorother who did just this | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | a really ? | [06:45] |
asciilifeform | and worked it into a mega-flamewar lasting a year. | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | i am but an ignorant asshole. | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, it's lulzy what socialism's own "to each according to his needs" makes out of people. | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | a needy bunch. | [06:45] |
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decimation | "I got to have the pleasure of defending women from the barbs and negs of my player friends only to watch these same women i defended end up going home to sleep with them. My brain simply could not comprehend what the fuck was going on. What the fuck is wrong with these women? Oh Wait! I?m not allowed to question that." | [06:46] |
mircea_popescu | http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1344769/thumbs/o-SLUTWALK-CHICAGO-2013-facebook.jpg << holy shit that's risky. | [06:46] |
decimation | so the alpha male, femenism, the hot woman, and his own brain are raping him? | [06:47] |
decimation | as the last pscyhiatrist might say, he might be happy if he wasn't so invested in being unhappy | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Slutwalk+Hits+Melbourne+Streets+VlMuQYwSqO4l.jpg <<< ahahh o brother. | [06:48] |
asciilifeform | if you examine in detail the incel 'canon', most of the afflicted tend to believe in a quasi-mythical past, when they would have, presumably, been 'issued' something to fuck - like a soldier is issued his uniform | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | decimation i kinda say it too. and probably anyone with a clue that ever saw him. | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | he doesn't mention that part. obviously. | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform amusingly, the various fringe groups all do this. anarchists have their pre-state garden of eden, so do goldbugs, so does everyone. | [06:49] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [06:49] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 593.29, Best ask: 595.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.71000, Last trade: 595.0, 24 hour volume: 12152.23796245, 24 hour low: 581.77, 24 hour high: 607.2, 24 hour vwap: 595.995339277 | [06:49] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: this is how one diagnoses a clinical failure of... imagination. | [06:49] |
asciilifeform | (an organ like any other, apparently - fails) | [06:50] |
decimation | in the days of arranged marraige he might have been issued a woman - if his father was a somebody | [06:50] |
mircea_popescu | if his father was somebody he'd have been in a world of hurt. | [06:50] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2012/fridericus-rex-unser-konig-und-herr/ such as. | [06:50] |
assbot | Fridericus Rex, unser Konig und Herr pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [06:50] |
decimation | maybe he would then write about how his wife hates him or something | [06:51] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: aha, the fellow who was ordered to behead his best chum | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | well, also teh historical prussian figure. | [06:52] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3151 = 0.6302 BTC [+] | [06:54] |
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BingoBoingo | The American Political class and their mythical 1950's | [06:57] |
mircea_popescu | i suppose the success of socialism may trace to this, that it has no mythical age in the past. | [06:58] |
asciilifeform | any good myth - has a dose of fact | [06:58] |
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decimation | encouraging the masses to believe that they live at the end of history certainly helps this myth | [06:59] |
mircea_popescu | i suspect any good myth has a dose of nonfactual commonplace thought. | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | take the immaculate conception. it's not that any woman ever did. not even close. | [07:01] |
mircea_popescu | but it's that so many men over the years thought about the possibility that maybe wifey/daughter/mom's just pregnant ? | [07:01] |
mircea_popescu | like, no fucking, it just happened ? | [07:01] |
mircea_popescu | please ? | [07:01] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/stellar-come-less-cool-name/ | [07:04] |
decimation | lol the altcoin Urea? | [07:05] |
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asciilifeform | fuckitall. watched that clip, now i just wanna be in friedrich's army. what have you done mircea_popescu! | [07:25] |
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decimation | I wonder what Friedrich would say about today's Deutschland? | [07:30] |
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asciilifeform | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pGjITOezVk << translated by same people? (also famous folksong) | [07:38] |
assbot | Unser Liebe Fraue (English Subtitle) - YouTube | [07:38] |
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decimation | that makes me think of the Hessian Landesknecht dwelling across the Delaware from Washington's camp, waiting for the Whig generals to make up their mind... | [07:49] |
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BingoBoingo | Watch the base of the thing holding the hoop http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/Paul_George_injury.gif | [07:55] |
cazalla | oh snap | [07:56] |
BingoBoingo | literally | [07:56] |
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asciilifeform | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWJOkzLBPak << re: 'mythical golden ages' | [08:02] |
assbot | Wir wollen unseren alten Kaiser Wilhelm wiederhaben (English Subtitle) - YouTube | [08:02] |
decimation | Note that many of the Germans who yearned for old Kaiser Wilhelm went to America to live "free" | [08:05] |
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decimation | this might have worked out for the first generation, but now their great-great-great grandchildren are yearning for Kaiser Wilhelm here ... | [08:05] |
BingoBoingo | A hundred years ago most the the local papers were in German | [08:09] |
decimation | America is a German country by ethnicity (of white people anyway) | [08:09] |
decimation | it just became ... uncool ... to be German during WWI and WWII | [08:10] |
BingoBoingo | Well, over much of the US the reason why small town X and small town Y were not bigger town Z, was the differing origins of the original settlers | [08:12] |
decimation | I'm convinced that one of the reasons that pre-WWII germany spiraled out of control was because people who were able to make something of themselves had already left 50 years earlier | [08:15] |
decimation | and the rest died in WW I | [08:15] |
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asciilifeform | just became ... uncool ... to be German << anglo elite's kool aid. | [08:17] |
asciilifeform | germany as cultural wasteland during the wars << same | [08:17] |
decimation | ascii I agree with you | [08:17] |
decimation | unfortunately the German population immediately gave up and submitted to anglo rule | [08:18] |
decimation | otherwise you might find a genuine Germantown somewhere | [08:18] |
asciilifeform | germany is a thing that exists in the pages of books - like rome, ussr. | [08:18] |
asciilifeform | and usa. | [08:18] |
asciilifeform | there's its home now. | [08:19] |
decimation | there is much truth in this. my grandmother's line comes from German settlers in Odessa | [08:19] |
decimation | supposedly they showed a great reverance for Tzar Nikolai | [08:19] |
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decimation | nevertheless, like in Mircea's comic, real life goes on, and one cannot dwell in the past | [08:20] |
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asciilifeform | there'll be great kings in future. but not willie with the beard, the one with the long, long beard. | [08:21] |
decimation | heh is that a reference to islam or jews or marxists? | [08:22] |
asciilifeform | decimation: nope. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#781777 | [08:22] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [08:22] |
decimation | there is actually a small Germantown in America: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_German | [08:22] |
assbot | Texas German - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | [08:22] |
BingoBoingo | decimation: Similar towns exist in the Ozarks and Appalacia | [08:23] |
BingoBoingo | With their own German dialacts | [08:23] |
decimation | on Moldbug's recommendation I read this book: http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924028685505#page/n3/mode/2up | [08:24] |
assbot | The land of the dollar | [08:24] |
decimation | The British newspaperman visited America around 1898 I think, he mentioned the terrible might of America and express fear that they could invade ... England | [08:24] |
decimation | see the anglo elite above for why that didn't happen... | [08:25] |
BingoBoingo | http://kbia.org/post/disappearing-german-dialect-still-spoken-missouri | [08:25] |
assbot | A disappearing German dialect still spoken in Missouri | KBIA | [08:25] |
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BingoBoingo | Who know what Scandanavian dialects might live in the frozen north of Minnesota | [08:26] |
decimation | yeah MIssouri was the "open frontier" when the Germans were settling | [08:26] |
BingoBoingo | Much of Missouri is still "frontier" | [08:26] |
decimation | somewhere in the logs I linked to a modern German who expressed absolute dismay at "german culture" in America | [08:27] |
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decimation | http://www.civilwarsignals.org/smf/index.php?topic=803.0 | [08:30] |
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decimation | honestly I think the old guy who grew up speaking Texas German has a better claim on "germanness" then some kid who was brainwashed with post WWII allied propaganda | [08:32] |
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BingoBoingo | decimation: Thread seems to support the idea that Germany only lives in books and the festivals he finds so offensive | [08:36] |
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BingoBoingo | The Germans who settled the American frontier did not descend from techno clubs and Angela Merkel | [08:38] |
BingoBoingo | Germany as a meaningful idea to their ancestors froze ~1830-1870 | [08:38] |
decimation | exactly | [08:39] |
decimation | granted, it's a mistake to think of that as another golden age too - there's a reason they all left Germany after all | [08:39] |
BingoBoingo | Right | [08:40] |
BingoBoingo | But many of the German migrants weren't doing so out of poverty, but of poverty of opportunity and the perception of the opportunity to pretend to be the gentry they could not back home | [08:46] |
TheNewDeal | sounds like the US | [08:48] |
BingoBoingo | Well, what is history, but repetition | [08:49] |
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mircea_popescu | And Grandma without joking, Said that when she was a young girl she could still drink from the Elbe, without getting sick | [09:51] |
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mircea_popescu | it's one thing to leave golden age new york because you can't afford the rent | [09:59] |
mircea_popescu | it's another to flee mumbai because you can no longer stand the stench. | [09:59] |
mircea_popescu | ✠ | [10:01] |
mircea_popescu | bah wth is it. | [10:02] |
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ColinT | Thanks broingo | [10:08] |
mircea_popescu | you know tab autofills. | [10:11] |
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BingoBoingo | For anyone seeking lulzy 'Murican Libturd fail, Doomsday Preppers S03E07 ... Apparent Redditor imagining self as a raider | [10:18] |
mircea_popescu | uh | [10:20] |
mircea_popescu | how about http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6hu3m0s5f1qlne6uo1_500.jpg instead. | [10:20] |
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BingoBoingo | lol | [10:22] |
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mircea_popescu | lol DreadKnight is now reading my entire blog. | [10:29] |
mircea_popescu | http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcgp9oyskX1qlne6uo1_400.jpg have some titties yo. | [10:29] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJNZwuamwj0&list=RDED5s1-Fe9FA << didn't you link the text version ? | [10:37] |
assbot | Johnny Cash - Cremation of Sam McGee - YouTube | [10:37] |
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cazalla | ooh, nice pointy ones, don't see them much anymore | [10:39] |
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mircea_popescu | this is true, strangely enough. | [10:41] |
mircea_popescu | it used to be half the girls, when i was 15. by now it's maybe one in ten ? twenty ? | [10:42] |
cazalla | nfi, all the ones i've seen in the flesh have been round | [10:42] |
cazalla | you don't see ski slope titties either, saw a lot of them in vintage porn circa 30's 40's 50's | [10:44] |
mircea_popescu | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OWMJk3tWPgw/T8b-oFPpE9I/AAAAAAAABFo/qt_9TsyUZcs/s1600/Pointy%2BPuffy%2BNipples%2BSpraying%2Band%2BDripping%2BBreast%2BMilk.jpg | [10:44] |
cazalla | looks like missus titties heh | [10:44] |
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DreadKnight | mircea_popescu, you do this thing where you start linking 2 more of your previous blog posts in the middle of the one I'm reading when things are getting interesting, it's like a psychological hook | [10:53] |
mircea_popescu | i'm just good at what i do. | [10:54] |
DreadKnight | I see; I have a lot of blog posts stacked for later on reading | [10:54] |
mircea_popescu | the problem is those probably have links too. | [10:56] |
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DreadKnight | yeah :D | [10:56] |
DreadKnight | pyramidal scheme | [10:56] |
DreadKnight | lol | [10:56] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9oK774QU4E speaking of pcp | [11:23] |
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DreadKnight | that's not how you play frogger | [11:52] |
ben_vulpes | what have i done | [11:53] |
ben_vulpes | i went out for a movie with my brother and father and my mother got my wife wasted | [11:53] |
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mircea_popescu | of course they are. there's insane variance over ethnic groups and historical periods. | [12:01] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [12:02] |
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ben_vulpes | "At some point, you may wish to delete private keys from a wallet.dat file but as of version v0.6.0 of Bitcoin-QT/bitcoind, there is no RPC method available for this purpose." << assholes. | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | why should there be a rpc method ? | [21:25] |
ben_vulpes | because there was at one point, but now there isn't. because of the transition from text-based wallets to bdb wallets? no idea, but it looks, smells, and quacks like a regression. | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | mkay so the clustering software is being quirty wrt dropping new proxy servers. | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone's seen 403 forbidden errors from proxies i r apologize. | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | working to fix whatevr the hell this is. | [21:33] |
mircea_popescu | im pretty sure you never had rpc address deletion. | [21:35] |
mircea_popescu | obviously you could wipe them from text wallet easier than from the bdb flatfile thingee. | [21:35] |
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ben_vulpes | ;;later tell pete_dushenski ping me when you get a moment, i have a new size for ya | [21:41] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [21:41] |
artifexd | ;;ud bitcoin | [21:42] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitcoin | Jan 5, 2011 ... bitcoin. A crypto-currency allowing for anonymous transactions and using a decentralized architecture. Go Nanotube! Nanotube was able to ... | [21:42] |
artifexd | "Go Nanotube!" << lol | [21:42] |
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mircea_popescu | lmao! | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | 224 | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | 65 too | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | that's thumbups and thumbsdown respectively ftr. | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | lol pete http://contravex.com/#footnote_2_1071 made me think "omfg when did i publish that?!?!?!" | [21:48] |
assbot | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski | [21:48] |
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FabianB | $mpexstatus | [22:02] |
empyex | FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 1018 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 | [22:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.0025904 = 0.5181 BTC [-] {6} | [22:04] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2801 @ 0.00081991 = 2.2966 BTC [-] | [22:28] |
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chetty | In an unusual breach of decorum, even for the divided Congress, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi chased Rep. Tom Marino across the House floor, taking offense at comments by the Pennsylvania Republican during debate on the border funding bill Friday night. | [22:52] |
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mircea_popescu | that old hag still has it in her to chase men ?! | [22:52] |
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chetty | well I dont think she was trying to get into his pants | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | what did he say anyway ? | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#781898 << the daily lol. | [22:55] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves you know m !==== n. | [22:55] |
chetty | “You know something that I find quite interesting about the other side? Under the leadership of the former Speaker [Pelosi], and under the leadership of their former leader [Rep. Steny Hoyer], when in 2009 and 2010, they had the House, the Senate and the White House, and they knew this problem existed,” he continued. “They didn’t have the strength to go after it back then. But now are trying to make a political issue out of it now.” | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | ;;seen jborkl | [22:55] |
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mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves ^ | [22:56] |
mircea_popescu | chetty not bad. | [22:56] |
mircea_popescu | so why did he run ? ridoinculous. | [22:56] |
chetty | I dont think he ran, he just finished his time at the podium | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | a | [22:57] |
ThickAsThieves | m !===n referring to what comment? | [22:58] |
mircea_popescu | the incel thing. | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://i.imgur.com/6U7yuD3.png was pretty lulzy tho. who actually bothered to make the png ? reddit ? | [23:00] |
ThickAsThieves | i think so | [23:00] |
ThickAsThieves | i didnt bother reading the incel details much | [23:00] |
ThickAsThieves | seemed like a chore | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: nice knowin ya MPEx! << sadly nobody counts all the already burried X of Y and Z of K that were "going to". | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | fuck, did you know Mark Karpeles of MtGox was going to make an options exchange cca 2012 ? | [23:01] |
BingoBoingo | !b 2 | [23:01] |
assbot | Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3YNV774.txt ) | [23:01] |
ThickAsThieves | surely that would have been awesome | [23:01] |
BingoBoingo | That might have killed Gox in 2012 | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | all the shit people were going to over the years. god, i recall there was this start-up that was going to make something or the other obsolete. | [23:02] |
decimation | insurance is one of the few financial products where you actually do have to know what you are doing | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | it was run by a coupla kids. | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | now what was it called... | [23:02] |
decimation | that's the opposite of "let's run new paypal w/bitcoin ima ceo!" product | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | decimation dun get in the way of the people that read stackexchange, kid!11 | [23:02] |
decimation | if he wants to run a "financial service" from bermuda he exchange cash & bitcoin via mail | [23:03] |
decimation | I have a friend who took all the exams to be qualified as an actuary. It took him a decade to qualify | [23:04] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00082397 = 7.9101 BTC [+] | [23:16] |
mircea_popescu | decimation yeah, i know a chick that did that too. she was finished by the time she was 30 | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile all her friends were senior hr managers and whatnot. | [23:18] |
decimation | heh yeah. an actuary can make decent pay but it's probably not worth giving up a decade to qualify | [23:19] |
ben_vulpes | same is true of legal 'profession' in the states. | [23:19] |
ben_vulpes | barristers take what - 4 years after hs in argentina? | [23:19] |
mircea_popescu | she was making ok pay at that point, and the senior-whatever floozies had zilch job security | [23:19] |
decimation | nah lawyering is much worse, most don't even make $50k | [23:19] |
mircea_popescu | however, she had absolutely no upside. whereas said floozies can always blowjob their way into a VP of Erections position, | [23:20] |
mircea_popescu | which pays in options, which in a bubble is always great | [23:20] |
decimation | well, that's the problem with the bezzle, it doesn't pay much to have skills, only friends | [23:20] |
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mircea_popescu | which, if you ever wondered why "businessmen" of the us variety seem to not mind inflation so much : they're not businessmen, they're valets. not their business. they are mostly paid on a nominal increase basis. inflation is basically a gift to them. | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | if stock is at 50 and your option is at 60 and inflation is 10% a year you're guaranteed a 10% payoff on other people's money starting sometime in year 2. | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | just for sitting down, keeping "the decorum" and wearing the right powertie. | [23:22] |
decimation | meanwhile everyone is "buying" your stock every week "for retirement" | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | which, if anyone wonders why ustardian "elites" are so soft spoken, submissive and complacent... | [23:22] |
decimation | http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2012/11/adore-river-of-meat.html | [23:24] |
decimation | "(I actually have great sympathy for the professional. In a bureaucratic oligarchy like ours, the professional both rules and is ruled. At the top, there is no one on top of him. Yet he cannot change his mind. He would simply be replaced. There are always younger, more eager professionals. Sovereignty is conserved; it is always humans who rule; and yet, it seems that no one rules. Who gets to put his hand on the wheel? He can | [23:24] |
decimation | stand there, and look like a captain. Chicks dig it. And yes, sir, it sure does pay.)" | [23:24] |
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chetty | excellent point, in the bureaucracy no one actually runs anything, its a self licking ice cream cone | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | BUT LOOK HOW RICH WE ARE! | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | maybe, if nobody knows what rich means. | [23:30] |
decimation | but those who are posing at the captain's wheel know the truth on the inside | [23:31] |
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mircea_popescu | well i hope they don't read much trilema then | [23:35] |
mircea_popescu | it may cause them. | [23:35] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00082397 = 8.2809 BTC [+] | [23:43] |
mircea_popescu | o look at that, thanks to mod6 eulora is actually picking up an artist. | [23:44] |
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Duffer1 | do they have an online portfolio? | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | we've been going over it in #eulora | [23:56] |
Duffer1 | no such chan on freenode? | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | uh ? | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | * Now talking on #eulora | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | * Topic for #eulora is: [Talk about all things Eulora! Wiki:http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora Looking for a job ? Try http://trilema.com/2014/smg-april-2014-statement/] | [23:57] |
assbot | Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | lolwut! | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | oh stupid bracket. | [23:58] |
Duffer1 | i'm smrat | [23:58] |
Duffer1 | don't ask lol.. | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [23:58] |
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