Forum logs for 01 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu holy shit logs. [00:06]
mircea_popescu well, brb, i need a drink [00:06]
nubbins` mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/031PbFll.jpg [00:07]
nubbins` a wild poster appeared ;0 [00:07]
RagnarDanneskjol awesome... needs bigger [00:07]
nubbins` to be fair, that's an unusually large pole [00:08]
nubbins` this is a trial run, wanted to make sure the guy didn't suck before i get him to post larger ones [00:08]
thickasthieves !b 3 [00:08]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2S5RMT3.txt ) [00:08]
nubbins` hmmmm... [00:08]
RagnarDanneskjol ahahah [00:08]
bounce where is this? they have underground buses! [00:08]
nubbins` yeah, okay, +1 [00:08]
nubbins` bounce lives in a city without tunnels 8) [00:09]
mircea_popescu nubbins` o.O [00:09]
nubbins` looks a bit lonely, hey [00:09]
BingoBoingo http://www.cnbc.com/id/102037055 [00:09]
nubbins` BingoBoingo: "BREAKING NEWS: Ebola stocks surge" [00:10]
BingoBoingo Amazing Hemorage!!! [00:10]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [00:10]
nubbins` you should see the rest of the pictures the guy took. not sure if drunk or couldn't find flash button [00:11]
nubbins` C- would not pay again [00:11]
mircea_popescu nubbins` most ppl dunno how to use the soap bar. [00:13]
nubbins` fair enough [00:14]
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nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/C1yubIf.png [00:16]
mircea_popescu punkman: "nine technical leaders" <<< ahahaha just this. [00:18]
BingoBoingo %v [00:18]
atcbot [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 170 Ask: 266 Last Price: 180 30d-Vol: 252k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 191 [00:18]
mircea_popescu o look, nubbins`! faeries! [00:18]
nubbins` just think, all cohen wanted people to do was light a match [00:18]
nubbins` now you gotta have a cell phone contract if you wanna play! [00:19]
mircea_popescu don't be the person that you came with! [00:19]
BingoBoingo lol comments thx Microsoft >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/09/the-next-version-of-windows-will-be-windows-10/?comments=1 [00:20]
assbot The next version of Windows will be… Windows 10 | Ars Technica [00:20]
mircea_popescu hanbot: punkman that good2go piece reads like advertising << duh. how do you think the pretense of "media" is preserved ? edvertising! [00:20]
nubbins` man i'm reading this article about cohen now and the asshole who wrote it seriously just referred to federico lorca as "gabriel garcia lorca" [00:21]
mircea_popescu punkman: I think the university should just film everything, help them pay off that debt <<< you sound like motherfucking mp. [00:21]
mircea_popescu nubbins` what's in a book. [00:21]
nubbins` too many words, it turns out [00:21]
mircea_popescu hanbot: lol punkman. financial aid dorm, now with free cams. << shit, didn't i come up with that idea like 5 years ago ? [00:22]
mircea_popescu free rent all glass front apts ? [00:22]
BingoBoingo punkman: I think the university should just film everything, help them pay off that debt <<< you sound like motherfucking mp. << Upgrade the dorms to... STUDIOS! [00:22]
bounce shoulda patented it [00:22]
nubbins` <+mircea_popescu> don't be the person that you came with! << ! [00:22]
mircea_popescu bounce i patited it. [00:23]
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nubbins` BingoBoingo so what's the actual version number? 6.3? [00:23]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Prolly 6.4 [00:23]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03: not just usa. ask mr. assange <<< no, it;'s just the usa [00:23]
mircea_popescu !up test___ [00:24]
-assbot- You voiced test___ for 30 minutes. [00:24]
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nubbins` heaven forbid they commit one way or the other [00:24]
mircea_popescu that's why getting him there was so important for the swedish collaborationists. [00:24]
test___ Hi. Just checking out this channel. [00:24]
mircea_popescu that's why their failure to do so collapsed the whole thing. [00:24]
nubbins` hi test___ [00:24]
mircea_popescu test___ so who're you ? [00:24]
test___ Me. ;) [00:24]
mircea_popescu "when one peers into the void, the void peers right back" [00:24]
nubbins` BingoBoingo one guy: "Windows X.11 for workgroups" [00:25]
nubbins` lel [00:25]
nubbins` few jokes in there [00:25]
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bounce not quite the void, but lots of peering [00:25]
mircea_popescu dignork: doesn't scale to group sex though <<< course it does. [00:25]
nubbins` everything scales to group sex [00:26]
mircea_popescu nubbins` doesn't nubbins sound like he just got some. [00:26]
bounce windows for groupsex? o_O? [00:26]
nubbins` mircea_popescu i'm in my prime, i generally sound like that 8) [00:27]
test___ *everything scales to group sex* Will keep an eye to this channel to confirm that! [00:27]
BingoBoingo test___: Generally that's the topic [00:28]
nubbins` wait, i get it. they skipped windows 9 because 7 8 9 :( [00:28]
mircea_popescu huh ? [00:28]
nubbins` funnier if you say it out loud [00:28]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Microsoft's next release is XWindows [00:28]
mircea_popescu awww no windex ? [00:28]
BingoBoingo No, Proctor and Gamble make Windex [00:29]
BingoBoingo In their artisan chemistry shop [00:29]
nubbins` http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kr_MrsKj6nI/TsoreDJ9IyI/AAAAAAAAACQ/p1XBSIZAnQc/s1600/26686aa.png [00:29]
mircea_popescu you suppose naming your kid gamble is likely to give him a head start in lif ? [00:29]
nubbins` better than proctor [00:30]
BingoBoingo I might name a kid gamble nao. [00:30]
mircea_popescu best scam ever would be for this priest in this small village to register births under arbitrary names [00:31]
BingoBoingo I just like how XWindows was annouced the day ebola was annouced in the US [00:31]
mircea_popescu then when the kids turn 14 or w/e... [00:31]
bounce why'd he bother? they're his anyhow. [00:31]
mircea_popescu maybe he's impotent and jealous on all the other priests ? [00:31]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu> best scam ever would be for this priest in this small village to register births under arbitrary names << Isn't this why you commishun'd Deedsbot? [00:31]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol right. [00:32]
mircea_popescu because people who have sigs really need names. [00:32]
BingoBoingo because people who have sigs really need names << Not to register people's names, but subjects names [00:33]
mircea_popescu shit i put vinegar on my shirt ;/ [00:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: 'usaschwitz' should be understood to mean all of nato and quasi-nato u.s. colonies. << subtle difference between cccp and warsaw pact. [00:34]
mircea_popescu bout the same relationship between us and the swedish government say. [00:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: -- also you will need to remove little embedded shrapnel of X from inside your head. this may be the hardest part for some people. visit, e.g, Brooklyn, New York to see what failure looks like here. << very true, but wtf, why brooklyin ?! [00:35]
BingoBoingo Why not Brooklyn, Illinois? [00:38]
mircea_popescu hanbot: hehe how's one supposed to do such rational calculations from inside a closed box? << ha! she got you there. [00:38]
BingoBoingo ;;google "Brooklyn, Illinois" [00:38]
gribble Brooklyn, Illinois - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Brooklyn, Illinois Archaeology Project: ; PTs Brooklyn - Brooklyn, IL | Yelp: [00:38]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo never been to that one. [00:38]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Pretty much nothing but strip clubs, fun town. [00:39]
mircea_popescu twenty years ago brooklyn still rocked. decay noticeable in the air, like dogs can smell snow. but it still rocked. [00:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: hanbot: sometimes, calculation is fairly simple. you're in a box. outside - vacuum of far space. <<< dude get out, people live everywhere people live. [00:39]
mircea_popescu xanthyos: basically i think they never intended a 5 btc freeroll, they were hoping to sign up a lot of a ccounts in the run-up to a big freeroll, and hope that some account generators would then deposiot << what a great way to start something [00:43]
mircea_popescu especially a gambling something. [00:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: hanbot: you were not mistaken in figuring that i'm one of the people weighed down by addiction to luxuries. but the only luxury i really give a damn about is free time. <<< this is so funny. [00:44]
mircea_popescu i've never seen anyone with more free time than south americans. [00:44]
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mircea_popescu thickasthieves: we're like babies making sure the edge of the womb is within reach <<< yes. but devoid of the conveniently muscled uterus and its precise timers. [00:46]
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xanthyos http://gyazo.com/33b38303136a45f3069e5f1b5138a077 [01:15]
mircea_popescu google ads : Don’t Pay a Prostitute - Meet a Lonely Austrian Housewife Adwww.ashleymadison.com/ [01:16]
mircea_popescu Austrian Affairs Made Easy! [01:16]
nubbins` <+mircea_popescu> i've never seen anyone with more free time than south americans. << lel [01:17]
nubbins` when i was in colombia, i had dinner with a german scuba instructor. he said "if you needed to study and pass a test to be a boat captain in Taganga, there would be no boat captains in Taganga" [01:19]
mircea_popescu kik [01:19]
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jurov which reminds me, recall mircea_popescu's bit with the captured mouse in the jar? << actually, if rats are given transparent lid they go into full learned helplessness [01:24]
jurov in few days [01:24]
jurov and won't try to jump off even after lid is taken away [01:24]
jurov there was plenty of research [01:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00074865 = 7.3742 BTC [-] [01:27]
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jurov http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=249664017 hahah saffron [01:44]
hanbot hanbot: lol punkman. financial aid dorm, now with free cams. << shit, didn't i come up with that idea like 5 years ago ? << but you forgot to make intellectual property dorm :D (srsly tho, i'd forgotten meanwhile) [01:44]
jurov go to 0:20 [01:44]
hanbot jurov will the rats starve in there? or given food & reasonable temps etc? [01:45]
kakobrekla i hope she is getting paid [01:45]
mircea_popescu hanbot likely story [01:47]
* mircea_popescu can't be bothered to video. what's in pornhub link ? [01:48]
jurov she's showing off trezor [01:48]
kakobrekla trezor, without quotes [01:48]
mircea_popescu hehe so what's the problem with that [01:49]
mircea_popescu ppl stealing my ideas is what open source is all about. [01:50]
jurov hanbot yes they were fed, researchers were mostly interested in resulting depression [01:53]
hanbot jurov and i thought cosmetics testing was sad [01:55]
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jurov http://www.tse-systems.com/products/behavior/anxiety/learned-helplessness.htm omg they even sell premade cages for that [02:16]
BingoBoingo http://olive-drab.com/od_surplus_armsbazzar.php [02:16]
assbot U.S. News 12/2/96: Weapons Bazaar [02:16]
jurov A free-programming language is available for generating custom procedures. [02:16]
BingoBoingo jurov: All of those cages seem small for mice of interesting size... [02:18]
jurov i refuse to investigate further [02:19]
m4rCsi malaimo Mantrid mariorz mats_cd03 MCM-Mike midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio MobGod mod6 moldysnizz Mrstickball mthreat [02:22]
mircea_popescu jurov mice or rats, incidentally ? [02:22]
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cazalla JuliaTourianski, gee you really upset reddit [02:28]
mircea_popescu lol what's she do ? [02:29]
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cazalla criticise circle [02:29]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'm guessing she returned here and continued conversation [02:29]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Linky? [02:30]
mircea_popescu incidentally, re jurov's rats : i wonder what happens once "they" finally figure out a) how to induce headaches with RF economically and b) get the social media profiling fine enough. search for bad words on google ? headache, stfu. [02:30]
kakobrekla watch out for ddos police with liabilities [02:30]
cazalla BingoBoingo http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hw9u2/dont_trust_circle_keep_your_own_private_keys/ [02:30]
assbot "Don't trust circle. Keep your own private keys" : Bitcoin [02:30]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla btw, im working on an article that'll put that entire thing into quite the lulzy monture. [02:30]
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kakobrekla hehe [02:30]
BingoBoingo cazalla: BTW how's the news business [02:30]
mircea_popescu cazalla oh, so she upset the usg agitators ? aww. [02:30]
cazalla BingoBoingo, still trying to think of a name [02:31]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: Weren't there like 50 yesterday? Make an executive decision. [02:32]
cazalla bing http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2014#850721 yes [02:32]
assbot Logged on 30-09-2014 03:05:00; thickasthieves: call it The Biz [02:32]
cazalla BingoBoingo even [02:32]
cazalla drop the the, just call it facebook [02:32]
BingoBoingo cazalla: You forget autocomplete, call it Qiz [02:33]
mircea_popescu facebutt [02:33]
mircea_popescu Facebutt : The Safe Place For Buttheads! [02:33]
BingoBoingo Oh, I thought you were going to do something annilingus related there [02:34]
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BingoBoingo Facebutt is pretty much the recipe for tossed salad [02:37]
mircea_popescu hehe [02:39]
mircea_popescu http://girls.twistys.com/preview/totm/09-2014/p05/p/09.jpg [02:39]
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ben_vulpes michele vs. hillary << kirchner's in the usa! [02:53]
mircea_popescu lol [02:54]
ben_vulpes ms clinton's eligible for the presidency in another year [02:56]
ben_vulpes clinton (8) + obama (8) + clinton (8) = 24 [02:57]
ben_vulpes 24 + 16 [02:57]
ben_vulpes (melia's 16) [02:57]
ben_vulpes it's not implausible. [02:57]
nubbins` why are we adding these numbers? [02:58]
ben_vulpes hillary rules for eight, michelle for eight, chelsea for eight, melia is now eligible for presidency. [02:58]
nubbins` feet (2) + ballhair (800) + ...oh, i see. [02:59]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: You forget a third Bush... For the pretense of a second Party [02:59]
ben_vulpes ah shit i did indeed [02:59]
ben_vulpes a fine dynastic do-si-do [02:59]
ben_vulpes 'swing yer partner round and round...' [02:59]
BingoBoingo You know it has been a while since a Roosevelt, but maybe we finally call in a Rockefeller off of the bench [03:00]
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BingoBoingo Maybe that McCain kid is finally senile enough to be a reliable empty suit? [03:02]
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mircea_popescu who's melia ? [03:03]
ben_vulpes ;;google melia [03:03]
gribble MELIA HOTELS INTERNATIONAL - MELIA - GRAN MELIA - SOL ...: ; Hotel Directory by Meliá Hotels International: ; Meliá Nassau Beach - Hotel in Nassau - BAHAMAS - Meliá Hotels: [03:03]
ben_vulpes it was a long shot [03:03]
ben_vulpes ;;google melia obama [03:03]
gribble Family of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Malia and Sasha Obama Through the Years Photos - ABC News: ; Malia Obama Birthday: First Daughter Turns 14, Her Most Stylish ...: [03:03]
BingoBoingo I dunno Sasha seems moar presedential than Malia [03:04]
mircea_popescu what was the name of that bush slut [03:04]
mircea_popescu that was changing her panties on the street at some point ? [03:04]
ben_vulpes p. sure those girls are out of the running. [03:04]
BingoBoingo I thought they were twins and so never got proper memorable names [03:04]
mircea_popescu i guess im phrasing this wrongly. [03:04]
mircea_popescu ;;google bush daughter slut change panties street corner [03:04]
gribble New NBC “Reporter” Jenna Bush Hager Must Leave Anti-American ...: ; Bush - Drunken Stepfather: ; BookReader - Daddy_s slut girl (Egan Norma): [03:04]
mircea_popescu y. [03:04]
mircea_popescu ty google. you understand me. [03:04]
BingoBoingo !b 5 [03:05]
assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2D40Y2N.txt ) [03:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45900 @ 0.00074898 = 34.3782 BTC [+] {2} [03:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2555 @ 0.00075285 = 1.9235 BTC [+] [03:08]
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BingoBoingo http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2010/02/ksk-off-topic-how-to-foil-a-child-molester.html [03:13]
BingoBoingo ^ Basically the story of Circle [03:14]
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mod6 <+mircea_popescu> what was the name of that bush slut < haha [03:19]
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JuliaTourianski that's one of the best reactions I've gotten. at least they're not discussing what i look like. [03:22]
BingoBoingo JuliaTourianski: That's why I don't do video [03:27]
ben_vulpes <******> You've made three unsuccessful attempts to find your account. We've locked this session for security reasons. Please close and reopen your browser to start again. << annals of web security engineering [03:30]
BingoBoingo http://statsbylopez.com/2014/09/29/stat-pundit-rankings-mlb-2014-overunder-win-totals/ << "Vegas Odds" [03:31]
assbot Stat pundit rankings: MLB 2014 over/under win totals | StatsbyLopez [03:31]
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BingoBoingo So this Oakland/Kansas-Shitty Ace off already has point against both pitchers [03:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00075288 = 26.2755 BTC [+] [03:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51900 @ 0.00074818 = 38.8305 BTC [-] {4} [03:59]
BingoBoingo OMG MPOE crashing [04:00]
BingoBoingo %v [04:07]
atcbot [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 170 Ask: 266 Last Price: 180 30d-Vol: 252k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 191 [04:07]
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Apocalyptic %d [04:07]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 300101.21 in 684 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.02 [04:07]
BingoBoingo %p [04:09]
atcbot >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 139.27 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.26 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.83 TH/s [04:09]
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BingoBoingo !up AMDCeleron [04:09]
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BingoBoingo So AMDCeleron WHo are you really? [04:09]
AMDCeleron i like AMD better than Intel yet i got a Celeron cpu in my laptop [04:09]
BingoBoingo AMDCeleron: What are your thoughts on the AMD low power chips? [04:10]
AMDCeleron like amd c-60? [04:10]
AMDCeleron i had a netbook with c60 two years ago and it was ok i guess [04:10]
BingoBoingo Well, not that low power. Like the E-XXXX and its successors. [04:10]
mircea_popescu dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs [04:11]
BingoBoingo AMDCeleron: What are your thoughts on non-x86-BBQ chips? [04:12]
AMDCeleron like iphone chips? [04:12]
AMDCeleron BingoBoingo, i dont know i have had an amd cpu in a year [04:12]
AMDCeleron why do you care about what i think of AMD? [04:13]
BingoBoingo AMDCeleron: I'm talking beautiful stuff like IBM Power, Motorola 68k, Sun Sparc/Sparc64 [04:13]
BingoBoingo AMDCeleron: I'm just curious about people's IRC nick strategies [04:13]
AMDCeleron not sure ive never really used it [04:13]
AMDCeleron I choose AMD because i like amd better than INtel, yet i have celeron n2830 in my laptop [04:14]
BingoBoingo AMDCeleron: WHy not give them both the finger and go Longsoon? [04:14]
AMDCeleron idk [04:14]
mircea_popescu <******> << the stars are secure [04:16]
mircea_popescu that's why used in pw fields. [04:16]
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BingoBoingo http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/25/hot-dougs-closing_n_5882072.html?cps=gravity << Shitcago School of Applied Economics [04:23]
assbot The Best Hot Dogs In America Are Going Extinct, And Everyone Wants A Bite Before It's Too Late [04:23]
AMDCeleron what is assbot [04:29]
BingoBoingo Assbot is kakobrekla's monster. In december it consumes the wrong kind of naughty Children. [04:30]
cazalla from that digital cc annual report - On 28 February 2014, Mt Gox, the online Bitcoin trading exchange filed for bankruptcy protection in Japan. At the time Mt Gox filed for bankruptcy, Digital CC Trading Pty Ltd (wholly owned subsidiary of the Group) held approximately $233,435 of bitcoins with Mt Gox. It is uncertain as to whether Digital CC Trading Pty Ltd will recover those bitcoins [04:35]
cazalla in the future and therefore the inventory has been written down in full. [04:35]
cazalla they incurred a loss of 11m for the financial year [04:36]
BingoBoingo cazalla: How much have you thought about non-name logistics for the news site? [04:37]
cazalla BingoBoingo, cart before horse much? [04:38]
cazalla jk of course [04:38]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Well, the first thing to have is probabaly a site pushing quality blocks of text. Within hours of settling on a domain. [04:39]
BingoBoingo ;;google site:trilema.com domain naming strategy [04:39]
gribble Why everything you think you know about DNS is entirely wrong pe ...: ; [Direct] BTC Growth - Forex Volatility Focus - Bitcoin Forum: ; Ycombinator continues to suck, jointly and severally pe Trilema - Un ...: (1 more message) [04:39]
cazalla i figure modelling it after coinfire without all the silliness would be a start, see if i stick at it longer than a few months and then maybe bring some more people on board [04:39]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: From the start I will be willing to contribute articles. [04:40]
BingoBoingo And suggestions, like Toolbox is the only useful Wordpress theme [04:41]
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mircea_popescu cazalla sounds liek a sound plan actually. [04:42]
cazalla BingoBoingo, simpler the theme, the better [04:42]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Doesn't really get simpler. And as you get ideas about the look, you build from it. [04:42]
cazalla i use to use thesis for my wordpress sites though [04:43]
cazalla would you suggest latest wordpress ver or reverting to an older one? i have not used it much since 2.x [04:43]
kakobrekla fuck me. one of these days im gonna have a heart attack. [04:44]
BingoBoingo Everyone has their vices. BingoBlog's first theme was some swiss named default offered in lieu of ugly ass 20XX [04:44]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla wha happened ? [04:44]
kakobrekla i was in the middle of bbet maintenance when suddenly everything stopped working [04:45]
kakobrekla could not figure out for the hell of it wtf [04:45]
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BingoBoingo would you suggest latest wordpress ver or reverting to an older one? i have not used it much since 2.x << Maybe MP can lend WordPress insights. I just kind of start with current and kill obnoxious defaults. For a news site though you probably want a new enough version to have decent multiuser handling. [04:45]
kakobrekla sweating blood on keyboard [04:46]
kakobrekla to find out i got locked out by ddos protection. [04:46]
kakobrekla and in reality it works. [04:46]
mircea_popescu lol [04:48]
mircea_popescu better than the other way around eh. [04:48]
cazalla how about using one of these new tlds trollbox.report [04:48]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Could work [04:49]
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cazalla i can't think of any notable website starting with tr [04:50]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [04:50]
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BingoBoingo Whatever the initial name is...there's sites in the #b-a interwebz hood that can get your google juice organically primed and buzzworded [04:51]
BingoBoingo cazalla: As I understand web publishing though... One of the most important parts is having content before going on srs promotion binges [04:54]
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BingoBoingo If the news site starts tomorrow... I can be a srs contender for newbs around X-mas [04:55]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-web-20-illustrated/ [04:58]
mircea_popescu cazalla ^ btw. [04:59]
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PeterL_ hi [05:03]
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BingoBoingo !up devthedev [05:05]
BingoBoingo O hai PeterL [05:05]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: people live everywhere people live << for the sake of argument, let's agree they're 'people.' but is that 'living' ? [05:07]
mircea_popescu now how would i know [05:07]
BingoBoingo Samizdat in IP land: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/gaming/2014/09/major_scrabble_brouhaha_can_you_copyright_a_list_of_words.html [05:08]
assbot Scrabble copyright dispute: Hasbro says it owns the Scrabble dictionary. Players beg to differ. [05:08]
mircea_popescu lmao [05:08]
BingoBoingo It's like if Nimzovich said Imma publish 'My System' but nun-yall can play it. [05:10]
mircea_popescu it's like this dumb kid in the courtyard figured somebody gives a shit if he loses an eye. [05:11]
asciilifeform lol, hasbro! [05:11]
asciilifeform everybody knows the story with that firm ? [05:12]
BingoBoingo Which story? [05:12]
devthedev Good evening [05:12]
asciilifeform they bought up virtually the entire u.s. computer game industry - and then imploded. [05:12]
asciilifeform most of the purchases were taxidermically hollowed out (assuming they even had meat) and used as bare named [05:12]
asciilifeform e.g. 'atari' [05:12]
BingoBoingo Ah [05:12]
asciilifeform (my brother at one time worked in a tiny game firm, their product was released with 'atari' on the box by the publisher - at the time, hasbro corp.) [05:13]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yup, quite. bought all the dead birds [05:14]
asciilifeform and attached strings, put on muppet show. [05:14]
mircea_popescu myeah. as if you know ? [05:14]
mircea_popescu possibly dumbest company in history of ip debacles, way up there with the riaa/mpaa crowd [05:14]
asciilifeform evidently something remains of it! [05:15]
* asciilifeform was a little surprised [05:15]
mircea_popescu about the same as remains of the "comics code" [05:15]
mircea_popescu an office in a basemenent somewhere [05:15]
asciilifeform lol [05:15]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Bankruptcy is a powerful tool as Mr. Trump can attest. [05:15]
mircea_popescu unless it was finally closed [05:15]
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asciilifeform basement, office, bag of money the size of a Waring laboratory blender. recipe for eternal life. [05:16]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: So... We're prolly all stuck now. Ebola diagnosed in the US. Outgoing border controls can't be far away. [05:22]
devthedev BingoBoingo: I still have that canoe if you want to borrow it. [05:23]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: marburg was in usa, etc. [05:23]
asciilifeform !s the holiday [05:24]
assbot 37 results for 'the holiday' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=the+holiday [05:24]
BingoBoingo devthedev: Well I haven't found library work so...Maybe I'll work X-mas at the mall and get back to you in January. [05:24]
asciilifeform if time for 'the holiday' - they don't need excuse. [05:24]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The US has its own disease demons like Hanta. [05:24]
BingoBoingo It would take some disease with a hashtag. [05:24]
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mircea_popescu jee whiz, i had no idea ebola had tracks. [05:27]
mircea_popescu what strange tank is this! [05:27]
devthedev The talks of a properly run Bitcoin news site is interesting. [05:28]
devthedev What would be needed to make it a reality? [05:29]
mircea_popescu devthedev didn't you work for something like that at some point ? [05:29]
asciilifeform 'there wasn't ebola when bush was president, thanks obama' [05:29]
asciilifeform (random turd from net) [05:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform blame obamacare ? lol. [05:29]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you'll appreciate today's puzzle box: http://imgur.com/a/ZcyQH [05:30]
assbot Puzzle Box - Imgur [05:30]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: He's a Florida kid. Was on TradeFartress's CoinChat and did his own thing afterwards. [05:30]
asciilifeform (unrelated) [05:30]
devthedev Yes, I worked with Plaxant.com a few months back when they ran a Bitcoin news venue. [05:30]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Is that a helium release valve? [05:31]
asciilifeform any gas [05:31]
decimation re: bankruptcy << usg is bankrupt (as discussed yesterday). the natural law of bankruptcy demands that the bankrupt lose control of their assets to the creditors [05:31]
BingoBoingo Yes, I worked with Plaxant.com a few months back when they ran a Bitcoin news venue. << Wrote the only worthwhile stories on a since failed venue. Operator never showed and stayed here in spite on invites. [05:32]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform> any gas << Ah [05:32]
mircea_popescu devthedev well, talk to cazalla basically. [05:33]
devthedev Will do [05:33]
decimation re: floating-point << http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/floating-point-determinism/ "Is IEEE floating-point math deterministic? Will you always get the same results from the same inputs? The answer is an unequivocal “yes”. Unfortunately the answer is also an unequivocal “no”. I’m afraid you will need to clarify your question." [05:34]
assbot Floating-Point Determinism | Random ASCII [05:34]
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BingoBoingo devthedev: He might be cleaning rabbits atm. [05:34]
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mircea_popescu decimation lmao good one [05:35]
BingoBoingo !up devthedev [05:35]
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mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot devthedev [05:35]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014 [05:35]
mircea_popescu you know you can self up. [05:35]
devthedev I don't have access to my OTC keys at the moment to auth. [05:35]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: hint - puzzle box is in my kitchen. [05:39]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Brewing something or preparing under the sea anchor safe [05:40]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: negative. [05:40]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Century hard drive? [05:41]
asciilifeform nope. [05:41]
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BingoBoingo Dead Nigger Storage? [05:42]
asciilifeform lol [05:42]
* asciilifeform doesn't know what the box for that looks like, but imagines slightly larger [05:42]
BingoBoingo ;;google pulp fiction dead nigger storage [05:43]
gribble Pulp Fiction: "Dead Nigger Storage" - YouTube: ; Dead Nigger Storage - YouTube: ; Pulp Fiction (1994) - Quotes - IMDb: [05:43]
asciilifeform if this one were a coffin, it'd hold a very obese 5 y.o. [05:43]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Noiseless computer? [05:43]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: give up ? [05:43]
BingoBoingo I concede [05:43]
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asciilifeform it's empty, of course. [05:44]
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asciilifeform cheapest way to get airtight crate, by a factor of 10, is usg surplus. [05:44]
BingoBoingo Ah [05:44]
asciilifeform and this is considerably cheaper than getting a hold of a climate-controlled space where lathe, mill, won't rust in winter. [05:45]
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decimation http://www.dlis.dla.mil/webflis/pub/pub_search.aspx [05:46]
assbot WebFLIS - Public Search [05:46]
decimation "SHIPPING AND STORAGE CONTAINER,POWER SUPPLY" [05:46]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform> and this is considerably cheaper than getting a hold of a climate-controlled space where lathe, mill, won't rust in winter. << Wait how much does a climate controlled storage locker cost on your left coast? [05:46]
asciilifeform decimation: yes. [05:46]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: locker with mains socket that you can sit in? [05:47]
decimation I yearn for the days when usg would actually create a spec for an object and have it manufactured [05:47]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: and loudly machine things ? [05:47]
asciilifeform decimation: nukes [05:47]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: they're called 'apartments' and cost $maxint [05:48]
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decimation those rare items that fall into that category are purchased at unobtainium toilet prices [05:48]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Lacks own mains socket, but climate controlled costs ~50/month here. Also lacks plumbing. [05:48]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: then not really applicable [05:48]
BingoBoingo I guess [05:48]
decimation asciilifeform: it looks like a poor man's pelican case [05:48]
decimation except better constructed with the metal lip & latches [05:49]
asciilifeform decimation: considerably nicer than 'pelican' - the lips are aluminum, and latches are valve-like cranks that twist tight [05:49]
asciilifeform (steel) [05:49]
asciilifeform fiddybucks. [05:49]
asciilifeform 'dr. evil' appearance - thrown in for free. [05:50]
decimation wow. I thought the problem with buying usg surplus is that you have to buy a pallet [05:50]
decimation did you buy from junk dealer? [05:50]
asciilifeform i demand that my dismembered corpse, when time comes, be stowed in a crate no worse than this one! [05:50]
asciilifeform decimation: yes [05:50]
decimation 'costco', one of the better us 'retailers' got its start selling caskets [05:51]
decimation http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/30/top-va-official-conspired-with-her-married-boyfriend-to-thwart-investigations/ << "A 2008 performance review, according to the investigation, stated that “her accomplishments were undermined by her poor judgment and lack of accountability. … Ms. Taylor allowed a personal friend to be hired in her department as a contractor [Mr. Dobrzykowski]; ... This, of course, is all good enough for [05:54]
decimation government work, since two years later she found herself in a top position at the VHA." [05:54]
assbot Top VA Exec Conspired With Married Boyfriend To Thwart Investigations | The Daily Caller [05:54]
decimation Not the kind of government bureaucrat that could design or even employ someone to design a quality case [05:54]
asciilifeform http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/24/clinton-aide-watches-stall-as-reporter-relieves-herself << linked from above [05:55]
assbot Clinton Aide Watches Stall As Reporter Pees | The Daily Caller [05:55]
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decimation yeah 'daily caller' is an obviously americanized version of 'daily mail', and highly amusing [05:55]
devthedev I'm not sure what I'd do if someone followed me into the stall, probably wouldn't be too pretty though. [05:58]
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BingoBoingo devthedev: My answer prolly depends on if they look pretty [05:58]
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devthedev The comments are classic. [06:00]
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AdrianoOliveira Thanks! [06:00]
BingoBoingo devthedev: For the record you are roughly how old and how advanced in 'Murica school. [06:01]
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devthedev I'm 15 and a Junior currently taking mostly AP classes. [06:02]
cazalla <+devthedev> What would be needed to make it a reality? <<< like anything, consistency [06:04]
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decimation !up devthedev [06:05]
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devthedev Of course [06:06]
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decimation asciilifeform: reading about floating point implementations on x86 is suicidally depressing for an x86 programmer [06:06]
asciilifeform decimation: wait till you realize there's 2 of them. [06:06]
asciilifeform uncoupled. [06:07]
cazalla although i guess jborkl is consistent, i feels bad for him [06:07]
decimation yeah, sse and x87 [06:07]
asciilifeform yes. [06:07]
asciilifeform because gr0wth and pr0gr355, or something. [06:07]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Consistent, but alone insufficient. Pretty much the curse of anyone who tries this thing solo and without structure. [06:08]
BingoBoingo cazalla: I am skimming the #b-a periphery though for the hungry and not malinformed. So far I've found 1 candidate. I might find another. [06:09]
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BingoBoingo devthedev: Does peapodamus still go online? [06:10]
devthedev I haven't spoken to him for about 2 weeks. [06:10]
asciilifeform x86 - what nobody wants, but everybody gets. like tax, death, arse waltzes. [06:10]
BingoBoingo Sooner than last year devthedev [06:10]
BingoBoingo So I guess he fails the consistency criteria. [06:11]
decimation plus intel keeps coming up with 'new' sse/cisc instructions that are """correct""": http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/theres-only-four-billion-floatsso-test-them-all/ << "A few months ago I saw a blog post touting fancy new SSE3 functions for implementing vector floor, ceil, and round functions. There was the inevitable proud proclaiming of impressive performance and correctness. However the ceil function gave the wrong [06:11]
decimation answer for many numbers it was supposed to handle, including odd-ball numbers like ‘one’." [06:11]
assbot There are Only Four Billion Floats–So Test Them All! | Random ASCII [06:11]
BingoBoingo devthedev: What about the really obnoxious one, Whiskers? WHo I'm pretty sure is in his 40's/ [06:11]
asciilifeform gave the wrong answer << dollars to doughnuts, whichever answer comes out of 'matlab.' [06:12]
asciilifeform on normal x86 box. [06:12]
devthedev I'm not too fond of him BingoBoingo [06:12]
devthedev I haven't spoken to him since last year [06:12]
decimation my understanding is that matlab on x86 just uses doubles [06:12]
asciilifeform and these use... [06:13]
BingoBoingo devthedev: Not many are, but after this thing gets feet he might be a solid audition. [06:13]
asciilifeform tell-tale heart: if 'double' is 80 bits, you're using x86 fp [06:13]
decimation asciilifeform: surely you aren't suggesting that intel allowed some swarthy intern design their cisc instructions with some dumbass matlab script? [06:13]
asciilifeform decimation: not instructions. the poster. [06:14]
BingoBoingo decimation: This is Intel, once the US legalizes weed at the Federal level their foundries are being converted to farms. [06:14]
asciilifeform seriously, work in a u.s. anything & see. [06:14]
decimation yeah, I know. everyone wants to implement on matlab, and they do not usually think about issues like numerical precision [06:15]
decimation the blog poster is a googleer [06:15]
asciilifeform phun phact. traditionally, the folks who write cpu manuals (how many people here have seen them alive? dead tree manuals) don't have access to original design specs. [06:15]
asciilifeform they're interns [06:15]
asciilifeform get napkin notes [06:15]
asciilifeform decimation: you don't get it. likely the folks who wrote the presentation, gave results of supposed tests, etc. never even saw the chip. [06:16]
decimation ah I see. yeah that's probably true [06:16]
decimation someone gave them a 'model' maybe [06:16]
asciilifeform so there is a mostly unwritten 'talmud' of differences between intel's manuals and the reality. [06:16]
asciilifeform (no you can't buy it from intel) [06:16]
asciilifeform amd - similar story [06:17]
decimation this is why intel can make money both ways - selling chips and selling compilers/libraries that actually use them [06:17]
asciilifeform when people say x86 is a turd - this is more than an aesthetic opinion [06:17]
devthedev Have a great day everyone, I'm going to get some sleep. [06:17]
asciilifeform it is a statement of fact. in that, encountering an animal turd in the forest, you know only approximately what is its composition. [06:17]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform> amd - similar story << Fucked themselves for years by compiling their compilers with Intels [06:17]
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decimation intel's ipp and compiler would 'detect' amd and disable its sse routines [06:18]
decimation I'm not sure if it still does [06:18]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: amd does not sell compilers. [06:19]
asciilifeform (unless this is a deep secret i was never privy to) [06:19]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: To my knowledge they've never sold either [06:19]
decimation AMD mainly sells usg anti-monopoly prosecution protection [06:20]
BingoBoingo decimation: They also sell the best laptop chips around. [06:21]
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decimation I'm pretty partial to the haswell chip in my mbp [06:21]
BingoBoingo I actually don't actively dislike the E-350 in my X120e [06:22]
BingoBoingo I hate the fucking wireless card. [06:23]
BingoBoingo But I don't actively dislike the CPU/GPU combo [06:23]
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* BingoBoingo remembers fuckers Spz. AMD APU's would be the mining be all and end all and they don't even register seriously for the weird alt hash functions [06:24]
decimation I mined with AMD/ATI gpu back in the day, I grew to hate AMD's driver releases that would ruin everything [06:25]
BingoBoingo I really, truly should have put the alcohol hobby on hold through grad school, but... The lack of time machines is a necessary bitch. [06:26]
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BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/517154726933463040 [06:33]
assbot Today is September 30, 2014, and there is still not much BIP32 support. Muh /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash 2.0. [06:33]
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TheNewDeal credit card locked out after 1 failed attempt to enter a zip code. Thank security [06:56]
cazalla 3D secure might be worse [07:02]
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TheNewDeal wow, never ever heard of that nonsense [07:05]
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BingoBoingo Oh, The Oakland KC wildcard game is in extra innings [07:07]
TheNewDeal ;;calc (41/34.661)**(1/3) [07:08]
gribble 1.05758250067 [07:08]
TheNewDeal ;;calc (41/35)**(.5) [07:08]
gribble 1.08232553856 [07:08]
TheNewDeal ;;calc 41/34.66 [07:10]
gribble 1.18291979227 [07:10]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell bitstein You want a conversation, but... Twitter seriously? [07:12]
gribble The operation succeeded. [07:12]
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BingoBoingo So... the AL postseason RBI record was broken... today... on the first game... [07:28]
BingoBoingo For Oaland's record [07:28]
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BingoBoingo cazalla: Do you still have an adorable bunny negro? [07:30]
cazalla it's a little browner but yes [07:31]
BingoBoingo cazalla: How does QontraCoin sound as a name? [07:32]
BingoBoingo Q pronounced as K [07:32]
BingoBoingo Pic of the little browner as the favicon. [07:33]
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BingoBoingo !up los_pantalones [07:34]
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cazalla reminds me of contra code [07:35]
BingoBoingo Reminds people of a lot of things [07:36]
cazalla said bunny http://imgur.com/RN3XoLK [07:38]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [07:38]
BingoBoingo cazalla: You got a mascot [07:39]
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TheNewDeal cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing - must have been reading the correct animal entrails [07:43]
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cazalla BingoBoingo, yeah he or she is a keeper, i think the buck is the half breed so hopefully female so i can breed it back [07:47]
BingoBoingo Nice. Bunny rabbits are delicious. [07:47]
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mircea_popescu "Greetings from Bitgazetteer.com, We are very happy to announce that your store/business has been posted on our bitgazetteer.com website because you integrated Bitcoins/Crypto-Currency as a legitimate payment method." [07:49]
mircea_popescu these fucktards. yeah, im sure spamming is the way to start a "business". [07:49]
Dimsler lol [07:50]
Dimsler must read bitgazetteer [07:50]
mircea_popescu big zappy deer'd have been a better name [07:51]
BingoBoingo Zappy Deer could be the first decent iPhone game. [07:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0007477 = 7.9256 BTC [-] [07:59]
cazalla <+BingoBoingo> cazalla: How does QontraCoin sound as a name? <<< as discussed, qntra as domain name, anyone have input? [08:02]
BingoBoingo Qntra seems like the winner [08:03]
asciilifeform cazalla: ever milk them? [08:04]
cazalla asciilifeform no but i've read about it, apparently their milk is amongst the best [08:04]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The bunnies? [08:04]
asciilifeform amongst the best << i always suspected! [08:05]
asciilifeform amazing premium product! [08:05]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [08:05]
* asciilifeform would buy [08:05]
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asciilifeform http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091201-rabbits-milk-human-protein-drug << apparently good for ~120mL/day. [08:07]
assbot Rabbits Milked for Human Protein; Drug Soon for Sale? [08:07]
BingoBoingo My youngest brother at one point had a buck rabbit [08:07]
asciilifeform not bad. [08:07]
BingoBoingo In its last year among the living feeding it without getting a fist full of bunny jizz was a near impossible task. [08:08]
cazalla i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though [08:09]
BingoBoingo I just washed my hands thoroughly. [08:09]
BingoBoingo ... and tried to forget the rape of my fist [08:10]
* asciilifeform searched for 'rabbit milking machine' - found: http://elevenredpaperclips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SAM_0847.jpg [08:10]
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cazalla bucks will fuck anything [08:14]
cazalla does are worse though, they'll try to fuck the buck [08:14]
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cazalla btw pete_dushenski, while it might sound similar to contravex, it's mere coincidence [08:20]
BingoBoingo So... Disclaimer... I was the horrible dirty influence on Cazalla [08:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.0007477 = 8.3369 BTC [-] [08:22]
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asciilifeform obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtSazFb5qM [08:27]
assbot Kingpin--cow milk - YouTube [08:27]
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mircea_popescu i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though <<< as there's not that much human history of drinking rabbit milk, likely it's safe. [08:30]
asciilifeform if mammal - milk it. [08:33]
asciilifeform why waste. [08:33]
cazalla asciilifeform, seems tedious to do with a rabbit [08:34]
asciilifeform cazalla: machines. see link. [08:34]
asciilifeform cazalla: not commercially available off-shelf, sure. but good project for amateur machinist. [08:35]
cazalla a machine? suck it straight from the titty [08:36]
asciilifeform or that. [08:36]
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asciilifeform (also works for cow, i imagine, but for some reason not popular.) [08:36]
cazalla gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change [08:37]
asciilifeform rabbit could shit in your face if you hold it like a bottle and drink? [08:37]
* asciilifeform not expert in field [08:37]
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cazalla having your face scratched would be my concern [08:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00074627 = 10.1866 BTC [-] {2} [08:43]
hanbot gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change << chronicled: http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/ [08:43]
assbot Namecheap goes off the deep end. Anyone know a decent domain registrar ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [08:43]
cazalla hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one [08:48]
hanbot loller [08:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39533 @ 0.00074582 = 29.4845 BTC [-] {3} [08:50]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker [08:54]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 391.2, Best ask: 392.68, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 392.7, 24 hour volume: 14382.73145314, 24 hour low: 373.24, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 385.5512724 [08:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9605 @ 0.00074704 = 7.1753 BTC [+] {2} [08:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.0007463 = 9.6646 BTC [-] [09:30]
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BingoBoingo So anyone awake thoughts on this new 'Gotham' show? [09:36]
Duffer1 i'm afraid it will be very bad [09:38]
Duffer1 oh it's already started [09:39]
BingoBoingo Duffer1: Yeah, already started. Surprisingly not bad. [09:40]
Duffer1 i dunno i'm worried they'll pervert the timeline [09:42]
Duffer1 well i'm worried they'll do that, and it will suck, if it's good i wouldn't mind so much :P [09:42]
BingoBoingo At some point, after enough splits, a piece of fiction looses the ability to have a single canon... And would you rather prefer Adam West... [09:43]
BingoBoingo As far after two episodes the thing isn't non-sensical [09:43]
Duffer1 oh i agree, but i don't trust fox to do it right or well [09:43]
BingoBoingo Which is a predicament, because if it has unrealized potential Fox could kill it half a season in. [09:44]
BingoBoingo Fox is the worst sort of quality filter imaginable [09:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0007463 = 8.06 BTC [-] [09:46]
Duffer1 indeed [09:46]
Duffer1 i would have loved to see the batman flashpoint alternative history as a series [09:47]
Duffer1 tv series [09:47]
Duffer1 on hbo [09:47]
BingoBoingo Well, cable is a still more finicky beast. HBO has yet to beat the wire. AMC has yet to touch Breaking Bad. [09:51]
Duffer1 fringe wasn't bad either (fox no less) [09:51]
BingoBoingo Yeah [09:52]
bounce namecheap looks like bog standard tabletisation to me. that's not "2.0", where everything is ajaxified for no reason. this is that plus big large buttons for fat fingers and super-duper js-reinvented scrollage that may be nice for tablets but seriously doesn't for (non-fullscreen) browsers on the desktop [09:52]
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punkman bounce, yeah "mobile first" [09:52]
bounce call it a kick in the teeth over and above requiring "browser features" that don't actually add anything to the content. dunno if that's "3.0" or "4.0" or whatever. [09:53]
Duffer1 BingoBoingo, the creator of the wire is currently writing a new HBO series called Show Me a Hero [09:54]
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BingoBoingo Interesting [09:55]
bounce tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know. [09:55]
BingoBoingo Duffer1: The thing I like about Gotham is it is almost a noir, which is like how here the best to hope for is almost a steak. [09:56]
BingoBoingo Also that show pisses the hell out of the reddit fanbois [09:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31056 @ 0.00074785 = 23.2252 BTC [+] {2} [09:56]
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Duffer1 i'll check it out, but my expectations are probably unreasonably high [09:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31865 @ 0.00075332 = 24.0045 BTC [+] {2} [09:57]
BingoBoingo Duffer1: As long as you remember Brian Cranston set every writer's expectations for TV unreasonably high it is hard to be disappoint as a viewer [09:57]
punkman BingoBoingo: I'd say from a financial perspective Game of Thrones has probably beat everything else HBO [09:57]
BingoBoingo punkman: But the bedrock underneath it with 2/7ths of the source material missing... [09:58]
Duffer1 no doubt, easily the best television actor [09:58]
BingoBoingo punkman: Unless in mega troll behavior the tv show jumps the books which I endorse wholly [09:58]
punkman I like AMC's Hell on Wheels, not as good as BB of course [09:59]
Duffer1 i'm watchin HoW too, I prefer Justified though [10:00]
BingoBoingo I'm drunk [10:00]
Duffer1 but i've had a man crush on Timothy Olaphant since Deadwood [10:00]
punkman also watched Lilyhammer recently, was some good fun [10:04]
Duffer1 ha [10:05]
Duffer1 i tried watching it i really tried [10:05]
punkman subtitles are hard? [10:05]
Duffer1 i just couldn't get into it, the story was not bad, but the main actor i just couldn't relate or believe in [10:06]
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punkman http://gizmodo.com/self-destructing-ssds-will-nuke-themselves-if-you-text-1640733628 [10:23]
assbot Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word [10:23]
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punkman yeah exactly what the doctor ordered, more phone in my disks [10:24]
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punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktwo-k-onk [10:33]
assbot Accident between two vessels in suez canal 29/09/2014 in portsaid - YouTube [10:33]
Duffer1 o.0 [10:36]
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RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot [10:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00074899 = 8.2389 BTC [+] [10:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41017 @ 0.00074574 = 30.588 BTC [-] {5} [11:00]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [11:24]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 386.32, Best ask: 387.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.87000, Last trade: 387.22, 24 hour volume: 15481.20021234, 24 hour low: 373.4, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 386.189487975 [11:24]
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cazalla does anyone know an alternative to pagewash? [11:28]
thestringpuller ;;google pagewash [11:29]
gribble PageWash | Facebook: ; PageWash - About | Facebook: ; SURVAY SAYS LYRICS - Turn The Page, Wash Your Hands: [11:29]
RagnarDanneskjol whats that [11:30]
RagnarDanneskjol cant see fbook [11:30]
cazalla sorta like a proxy site [11:30]
RagnarDanneskjol oh, so like a vpn but lazier/less secure [11:31]
cazalla it was good for seeing if dns refreshed elsewhere as i've been waiting ages on my own connection [11:31]
RagnarDanneskjol hmm [11:31]
cazalla but they changed the site and made it useless [11:31]
RagnarDanneskjol it happens [11:31]
bounce plenty web-based proxies Out There. lots stuffed with ads, though [11:32]
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cazalla yeah, pagewash wasn't like that and refreshed quickly [11:33]
bounce usg redefines data collection to allow all data dragnets: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140929/13451828665/executive-order-12333-documents-redefine-collection-authorize-majority-dragnet-surveillance-programs.shtml [11:42]
assbot Executive Order 12333 Documents Redefine 'Collection,' Authorize Majority Of Dragnet Surveillance Programs | Techdirt [11:42]
punkman didn't take long, did it [11:42]
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RagnarDanneskjol http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname [12:46]
assbot FCC Considering Punishment for Broadcasters Who Use Redskins Nickname | Bleacher Report [12:46]
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RagnarDanneskjol http://www.recentscientific.com/sites/default/files/download_110.pdf [13:09]
RagnarDanneskjol [CONTAMINATED MONEY IN CIRCULATION: A REVIEW] [13:09]
RagnarDanneskjol ..contaminated - as in pathogens [13:10]
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chetty http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname///nickname? isnt that the official team name? [13:19]
assbot Bleacher Report [13:19]
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chetty ..contaminated - as in pathogens//read somewhere that virtually every 20 has cocaine traces [13:20]
RagnarDanneskjol yea - dont know why they called it nick [13:20]
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RagnarDanneskjol i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to [13:21]
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RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot [13:46]
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RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/qddQ8idF [13:47]
assbot deed test - Pastebin.com [13:47]
deedBot deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle [13:47]
deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/qddQ8idF [13:47]
assbot deed test - Pastebin.com [13:47]
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RagnarDanneskjol .balance [13:54]
deedBot deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00253000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu [13:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15197 @ 0.00074364 = 11.3011 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00074356 = 24.5375 BTC [-] {4} [14:05]
punkman .deed http://pastebin.com/mWvW7fd6 [14:08]
deedBot deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle [14:08]
assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Testing - -----BEGIN - Pastebin.com [14:08]
deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/mWvW7fd6 [14:08]
assbot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Testing - -----BEGIN - Pastebin.com [14:08]
punkman 1.5 signatures, nice [14:08]
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RagnarDanneskjol wtf does that mean? [14:09]
punkman I have no clue [14:10]
RagnarDanneskjol ha - interesting [14:10]
RagnarDanneskjol I need to have a convo with you - re target bitcoin address as of the hash of the documents, not wasting coins, etc [14:12]
RagnarDanneskjol not now, soon [14:12]
punkman let me check my calendar :P [14:13]
RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot [14:13]
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RagnarDanneskjol heh [14:13]
RagnarDanneskjol ahh - so 1.5 signatures apparently means one signed msg and one standalone sig [14:15]
RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/thQBbZsE [14:15]
deedBot No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/thQBbZsE [14:15]
assbot test - Pastebin.com [14:15]
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RagnarDanneskjol oops - didnt paste it all [14:16]
RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/DX4E7ZHS [14:16]
deedBot No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/DX4E7ZHS [14:17]
assbot test - Pastebin.com [14:17]
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RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/3aCSNttt [14:18]
deedBot No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/3aCSNttt [14:18]
assbot ttst - Pastebin.com [14:18]
assbot ttst - Pastebin.com [14:18]
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RagnarDanneskjol .deed http://pastebin.com/exbt1Fg0 [14:22]
deedBot deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle [14:22]
deedBot deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle [14:22]
deedBot Found 2 valid deeds in http://pastebin.com/exbt1Fg0 [14:22]
assbot tst - Pastebin.com [14:22]
assbot tst - Pastebin.com [14:22]
deedBot Bundled: 721f3f09be090181c913fc24e937c8db80aaae7aae67bad4655750f1ae0c388d-1MWLqwvsTaZZ84vsibz9Ej7tkenBnFDwTS.txt [14:22]
RagnarDanneskjol .dump [14:23]
deedBot time=1412162522 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412162463 elapsed=59 [14:23]
deedBot DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (no pending deeds.) [14:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.0007442 = 18.8283 BTC [+] [14:29]
deedBot published http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/721f3f09be090181c913fc24e937c8db80aaae7aae67bad4655750f1ae0c388d-1MWLqwvsTaZZ84vsibz9Ej7tkenBnFDwTS.txt [14:29]
RagnarDanneskjol ok its there: http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/ [14:30]
assbot DEEDS [14:30]
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punkman http://blog.samaltman.com/reddit [14:35]
assbot reddit - Sam Altman [14:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00074483 = 27.1863 BTC [+] {2} [14:36]
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RagnarDanneskjol so much fail [14:37]
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chetty In several years, I think reddit could have close to a billion users.//what in the world is good about that? [14:47]
punkman lets you swindle more investors [14:50]
mircea_popescu it's never making it. reddit is about in the position of paypal : time to sell it. [14:54]
mircea_popescu "in a few years" i will have killed it dead. [14:55]
mircea_popescu cazalla:hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one << takes a bunch of scripting to transaform new pos back into old thing but it can be done. [14:58]
mircea_popescu fucking "coders" today, you know, writing shit so other people have to write unshit so the world can keep functioning. [14:58]
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mircea_popescu punkman: bounce, yeah "mobile first" <<< basically they're hiring imbecile 20somethings, that have grown up in the nazi party. they have one pow and one idea, and that's that. [14:59]
mircea_popescu if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history. [15:00]
mircea_popescu the "black impudence" notion is just about to make its entry into the world. [15:01]
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mircea_popescu !up R7R [15:01]
-assbot- You voiced R7R for 30 minutes. [15:01]
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mircea_popescu bounce:tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know. << EXACTLY fucking that omfg. exactly. [15:03]
mircea_popescu !b 1 [15:03]
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mircea_popescu fucking midwestern braindead chemists trying to run the world. "dem darn kids like that darn interwebs so much how about i make myself an interweb shaped corn. that'll sell!" [15:04]
mircea_popescu assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word <<< you mean if you ask your enemy to let you do it ? lawl ok, great thinking there shelops! [15:05]
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mircea_popescu cazalla: it was good for seeing if dns refreshed elsewhere as i've been waiting ages on my own connection <<< i love browsershots for this purpose. [15:07]
mircea_popescu bounce: usg redefines data collection << lol. [15:10]
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mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol: i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo [15:11]
assbot George Carlin - Germs, Immune System - YouTube [15:11]
mircea_popescu im with him. [15:11]
TomServo !up devthedev [15:11]
Azelphur !up devthedev [15:11]
RagnarDanneskjol yea - thats a good one. carlin is right as usual [15:12]
Azelphur so apparently I have unsufficient rights, even though I'm already voiced [15:12]
Azelphur this makes sense o/ [15:12]
mircea_popescu Azelphur l1 vs l2. [15:12]
TomServo Same here - must need to reauth. [15:12]
mircea_popescu !up devthedev [15:12]
-assbot- You voiced devthedev for 30 minutes. [15:12]
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devthedev Thank you [15:12]
Azelphur ah [15:12]
mircea_popescu ;;ident TomServo [15:13]
gribble Nick 'TomServo', with hostmask 'TomServo!sewandsew@airportsecurity.junktouch.org', is not identified. [15:13]
mircea_popescu no actually, it's because you're unid'd. [15:13]
mircea_popescu ma bad. [15:13]
Azelphur oh I see, I really need to build gribble auth into my bouncer. [15:13]
mircea_popescu deedBot: deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle << lolwut?! [15:13]
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mircea_popescu Azelphur or just id when needed. safer that way. [15:14]
mircea_popescu the point of security features is for them to be secure not automated. [15:14]
Azelphur indeed, that's one of the reasons I haven't done it yet [15:15]
jurov [20141001 04:41] cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing << what? it was tat, not my area man [15:15]
jurov http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/30/reddit-scoops-up-50m-series-b-from-sam-altman-a16z-sequoia-at-500m-valuation/?ncid=rss [15:16]
assbot Reddit Plans Its Own Cryptocurrency To Give Back To Its Users After $50 Million Raise | TechCrunch [15:16]
jurov ^god have mercy on us [15:16]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [15:16]
mircea_popescu bring it reddit. you're dead bitch. [15:16]
TomServo I thought doge was reddit's 'cryptocurrency'. [15:20]
mircea_popescu yes but doge i killed meanwhile. what'd you expect them to do, learn ? [15:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.0007464 = 25.2656 BTC [+] [15:20]
mircea_popescu they can't learn. they gotta try again. until mashed into pulp, old fizz caking on their ragged tshirt, redditards gotta try their redditardation again. [15:21]
mircea_popescu and again and again and again. [15:21]
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mats_cd03 :( [15:31]
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mircea_popescu why sadface mats_cd03 ? [15:40]
mats_cd03 watching people do dumb things makes me sad [15:40]
mircea_popescu eh, gotta learn to laff. [15:42]
mircea_popescu Il lavoro è gioia, il lavoro è allegria! [15:42]
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chetty if its fun it isnt work, silly [15:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00074726 = 21.7453 BTC [+] {5} [15:45]
mircea_popescu lol [15:45]
chetty You all saw Ebola arrived in Texas? [15:48]
mircea_popescu yea [15:50]
chetty https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH0jZ_4CMAAQBEZ.jpg [15:51]
RagnarDanneskjol ha [15:52]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-september-2014-statement/ [15:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^ when you sign it, put the signed into deedsbot and just comment the link ? [16:00]
RagnarDanneskjol oohh deedbot signed statements. good thinkin - imma do that too [16:00]
kakobrekla dude... [16:01]
kakobrekla fine, but everybody must do it. [16:02]
mircea_popescu well ima do it anyway. [16:03]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol kinda what it's for eh ? [16:04]
RagnarDanneskjol i hadnt thought through the many usecases quite yet [16:04]
mircea_popescu and let me open an imaginary bottle of virtual champagne for all the bitbet good news. not only is it finally out of arrears, but moreover, best month for incoming bets in history and shit. [16:05]
mircea_popescu who knew it'll beat the months when btc was 30 bux. [16:05]
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mircea_popescu !up original_discobe [16:29]
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mircea_popescu https://gop.com/happy-anniversary-obamacare/ [16:33]
assbot Happy Anniversary ObamaCare | GOP [16:33]
mircea_popescu lulzy [16:33]
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nubbins` mostly just boorish and classless [16:40]
nubbins` but sort of lulzy too, i guess [16:40]
nubbins` more in the sense of "we are a federal-level political party and our website is full of 'lel you other guise r dummyz' articles" [16:41]
nubbins` https://gop.com/george-hw-bush-socks/ [16:42]
assbot Official George H.W. Bush Socks | GOP [16:42]
nubbins` https://gop.com/nc-black-engagement-to-host-sweet-tea-and-politics-2/ [16:44]
assbot NC Black Engagement To Host Sweet Tea and Politics | GOP [16:44]
mircea_popescu what's "classless" mean ? [16:44]
nubbins` "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team" [16:44]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: boorish :/ [16:44]
mircea_popescu uh. [16:44]
nubbins` i know it technically means something totally different [16:44]
mircea_popescu you know circular definitions are usually a symptom of deeper problems. [16:44]
nubbins` but i felt okay with redefining it for my needs [16:44]
nubbins` "unclassy" sounds so... [16:45]
nubbins` boorish. [16:45]
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mircea_popescu ok, what;'s classy ? [16:46]
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nubbins` stylish, elegant, refined [16:48]
nubbins` sophisticated [16:48]
nubbins` cosmopolitan, even [16:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00074345 = 19.6271 BTC [-] {2} [16:49]
nubbins` !up Diablo-D3 [16:51]
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Diablo-D3 racist comment of the day [16:51]
Diablo-D3 [09:42:27] "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team" [16:52]
Diablo-D3 but I thought black people didnt get married? [16:52]
nubbins` i didn't even think anyone did. it's 2014 [16:52]
mircea_popescu i thought you were married [16:53]
nubbins` sure, yeah, but since when am i the barometer for sensible behaviour [16:53]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: how dare you imply I'm black [16:54]
mircea_popescu anyway, the notion that the mockery of obamacare on the gop's site is unrefined and unstylish is hardly sensible. if they were going for the stylish they'd be in the democratic party. [16:54]
Diablo-D3 oh you implied nubbins` is black [16:54]
Diablo-D3 thats okay [16:54]
mircea_popescu i did ? [16:54]
Diablo-D3 you implied someone is by virtue of context [16:54]
mircea_popescu maybe the context ain't as virtuous as you think her. [16:55]
mircea_popescu in fact, i have it under authority of some people i know that context's a total slut. [16:55]
Diablo-D3 https://gop.com/george-hw-bush-socks/ [16:55]
assbot Official George H.W. Bush Socks | GOP [16:55]
Diablo-D3 thats just hilarious [16:55]
nubbins` not as hilarious as reading the logs [16:56]
nubbins` !s Official George H.W. Bush Socks [16:56]
assbot 1 results for 'Official George H.W. Bush Socks' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Official+George+H.W.+Bush+Socks [16:56]
nubbins` wat? fuck you gribs [16:57]
nubbins` i mean [16:57]
nubbins` bbl coffee [16:57]
Diablo-D3 http://www.businessinsider.com/mispronounce-difficult-to-say-brands-2014-9 [16:58]
assbot How To Pronounce Difficult To Say Brands - Business Insider [16:58]
Diablo-D3 most of these brands probably dont exist [16:58]
Diablo-D3 lol. [16:58]
bounce this vs those socks: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/18/JP-Morgan-Chase-CEO-Wears-Cuff-Links-Obama-Gave-Him-To-Hearing [16:59]
assbot JP Morgan Chase CEO Wears Cuff Links Obama Gave Him To Hearing [16:59]
Diablo-D3 yeah I dont think obama gave him anything [16:59]
Diablo-D3 its more of obama told his assistant to buy him something [17:00]
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mircea_popescu lol [17:03]
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kakobrekla ;;google champagne zapp brannigan [17:10]
gribble I believe it's pronounced champagne - YouTube: ; Zapp Brannigan (Character) - Quotes - IMDb: ; Zapp Brannigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [17:10]
kakobrekla best. [17:10]
kakobrekla since i saw this, i try to remember to pronounce it like zapp [17:11]
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nubbins` what degenerate would pronounce the S in Artois? [17:15]
mircea_popescu lol. ahahha. [17:16]
nubbins` "some people say baringer ingullum... it's really behringer ingelheim" [17:17]
nubbins` groan [17:17]
nubbins` some people say this video was worth watching, it's actually time i'll never get back [17:18]
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Diablo-D3 nubbins`: who the fuck would ORDER artois? [17:19]
Diablo-D3 I dont eat things that I cant pronounce. [17:19]
Diablo-D3 also, Ive heard of maybe 3 or 4 brands in that video [17:19]
nubbins` technically you don't eat beer [17:19]
Diablo-D3 at least 2 of them are bullshit [17:19]
nubbins` besides, stella's nice. everybody would order one. [17:19]
Diablo-D3 a) if you pronounce porche with the sha, you're a douchebag [17:20]
Diablo-D3 b) no one mispronounces miele, and I live in one of the most uneducated areas of the world [17:20]
nubbins` america? :D [17:20]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 what do you do in a pharmacy ? [17:21]
mircea_popescu or do you know how to say propanolol [17:21]
Diablo-D3 lol. [17:21]
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mircea_popescu heh [17:21]
mircea_popescu !up Diablo-D3 [17:22]
-assbot- You voiced Diablo-D3 for 30 minutes. [17:22]
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mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 caught in traffic : HOT DAMN! SOMEONE GIVE ME A COMPLEX AROMATIC COMPOUND NOMENCLATURE READING GUIDE [17:22]
mircea_popescu i'm eating up shit in here i never even heard of!!1 [17:22]
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mircea_popescu dude at least i can pronounce crack. [17:23]
mircea_popescu in like 6 languages [17:23]
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nubbins` "In 2001, El Al Airlines decided not to allow ultra-Orthodox Jews cover themselves in plastic because 'flight safety considerations do not allow for passengers to board while covered in sealed plastic bags.'" [17:28]
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bounce "roflolol", "zomgdox", "nsfwclone", "osnappoetin", "yabaizafone", ... WHO stem book meets urban dictionary [17:31]
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nubbins` o hey, they raised the minimum wage here in twodogland today [17:36]
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RagnarDanneskjol fukin looters [17:37]
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hanbot mircea_popescu: dude at least i can pronounce crack. in like 6 languages << allah crackbar? [17:41]
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mircea_popescu lmao [17:47]
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thickasthieves thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w [17:48]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [17:48]
thickasthieves ftr i used orange and grey before bitcoin [17:49]
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nubbins` grey is the new black [17:54]
ben_vulpes your pop culture references have been duly noted [17:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42900 @ 0.00074311 = 31.8794 BTC [-] {4} [18:00]
nubbins` that was a pop culture reference? [18:00]
nubbins` oh, wait, n/m [18:00]
kakobrekla !up deedBot [18:01]
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kakobrekla .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FqeR3jN2 [18:01]
deedBot deed 27AF75321F2489E8 kakobrekla with 1 signature valid in next bundle [18:01]
deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FqeR3jN2 [18:01]
kakobrekla like dat? [18:01]
nubbins` ooooooo [18:02]
nubbins` what happens when the next bundle is ready? :D [18:02]
kakobrekla bomb i suppose [18:03]
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nubbins` !s deedbot [18:03]
assbot 236 results for 'deedbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deedbot [18:03]
nubbins` o [18:03]
mircea_popescu lol teh bomb [18:05]
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nubbins` so what, deedbot just publishes shit to a website? [18:06]
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nubbins` what am i missing here [18:06]
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mircea_popescu the spec lol. only linked like 500 times in the chan [18:08]
mircea_popescu !s spec [18:08]
assbot 345 results for 'spec' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spec [18:08]
nubbins` heh. [18:08]
nubbins` actually found the github page, reading source now [18:08]
mircea_popescu nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-09-2014#841838 [18:09]
mircea_popescu there. [18:09]
assbot Logged on 23-09-2014 03:26:15; mircea_popescu: dja recall the spec ? [18:09]
* nubbins` nods [18:10]
nubbins` intredasting [18:10]
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thickasthieves it's annoyng that we cant just put anything in the blockchain [18:11]
nubbins` if you could, people would be uploading disk images [18:11]
thickasthieves so have fees [18:12]
nubbins` it'd be unsyncable on day two [18:12]
nubbins` what you're describing is dropbox [18:12]
nubbins` :P [18:12]
thickasthieves i mean miner fees [18:12]
thickasthieves proportion to size of your tx [18:12]
nubbins` that benefits the miners, sure, but it's a huge detriment to everyone else running a node [18:13]
thickasthieves so make node fees [18:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21010 @ 0.00074511 = 15.6548 BTC [+] [18:13]
nubbins` "oh, shit, another 25TB to sync today" [18:13]
thickasthieves 25TB might cost 1000btc though [18:13]
nubbins` so goat pays 1000btc and now the blockchain is 25TB larger, forever [18:14]
nubbins` to the detriment of everyone [18:14]
thickasthieves stop stopping my dreams! [18:14]
nubbins` logic stops them! [18:14]
thickasthieves i'm just not dreaming hard enough [18:14]
nubbins` i think you're dreaming too hard as it is [18:15]
bounce doesn't "datacoin" try and allow for arbitrary chain storage? [18:15]
Apocalyptic yeah, that's even what it was designed for [18:15]
nubbins` gross [18:15]
thickasthieves i dont see how it would avoid problems mentioned [18:15]
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Apocalyptic thickasthieves, nobody said it does [18:16]
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* nubbins` imagines early adopter cashing out all datacoin, uploading massive file to blockchain as final act [18:16]
kakobrekla of CP [18:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50662 @ 0.00074764 = 37.8769 BTC [+] {3} [18:18]
mircea_popescu lol [18:19]
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deedBot Bundled: 63581bfec02108fa941af106057dfdc3747fb0d3babbb334d95fff1da1b87406-1DYriNQB4tjyYMdXP8C3eWwFdzR8WVV4fc.txt [18:23]
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pete_dushenski http://line-mode.cern.ch/www/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html [18:26]
assbot The World Wide Web project [18:26]
pete_dushenski ^"first website" from 1991 [18:26]
pete_dushenski le fun! [18:27]
RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot [18:29]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: i've never seen anyone with more free time than south americans. << and no one with less free time than north americans. how, i ask you, are we all "americans" ? [18:31]
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thickasthieves http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/iphonegun2.jpg [18:32]
bounce that's a good way to get yourself shot [18:33]
asciilifeform even without enemy. phone rings, draw, put to head - but drew from wrong holster. [18:35]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski just like the chinese are european [18:35]
mircea_popescu it's one continent after all :D [18:35]
thickasthieves what a guy cant own gun-shaped things without getting shot? [18:36]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves> i'm just not dreaming hard enough << maybe you're not dreaming out the right hole ? [18:36]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: lol they're not?? i thought that's why the chinese were good at shit. [18:36]
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mircea_popescu the chinese are about as european as teh jooz. [18:37]
pete_dushenski khans spread ideas, tech between the two [18:37]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, google now sends me traffic for searches like "cum sa faci bani ca un evreu", ie, how to make $$$ like a joo. [18:37]
pete_dushenski lol wow [18:37]
pete_dushenski … that you're using google, that is [18:38]
pete_dushenski s/joo/buffett and you have north american ads. [18:38]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski no i mean, to trilema. search traffic. [18:39]
pete_dushenski o i c [18:40]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu well you're sorta the king rabbi ;) [18:40]
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thickasthieves http://www.pfhub.com/eu-says-apple-incs-irish-tax-deal-is-illegal-1240/ [18:45]
assbot EU Says Apple Inc.'s Irish Tax Deal is Illegal [18:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31906 @ 0.00074999 = 23.9292 BTC [+] [18:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22095 @ 0.00074635 = 16.4906 BTC [-] [19:00]
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kakobrekla deedBot needs to be registered with nickserv [19:19]
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dignork mircea_popescu> dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs <<< not good enough, each pair will be able to blackmail others, non-existent problem in one-to one case. [19:21]
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mircea_popescu how is a pair going to be able to blackmailk anyone ? there's no such thing as "group rape" as in, you've raped a group of two people. [19:22]
mircea_popescu texas used to have "enstrangement of affection" but it's gone. [19:22]
mircea_popescu !up dxrt [19:23]
-assbot- You voiced dxrt for 30 minutes. [19:23]
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dignork i mean side-attack: using the recording to blackmail others - payments for non-disclosure [19:24]
dignork could be avoided if we form pair keys, each one with court key, 2 out of 2 to redeem, but this also has different properties [19:25]
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mircea_popescu oh, for non disclosure [19:29]
mircea_popescu who gives a shit, cunts want to be seen. [19:29]
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TomServo http://www.shitexpress.com/ [19:47]
assbot Shitexpress · Send a shit in a package around the world [19:47]
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RagnarDanneskjol very nice [19:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47162 @ 0.00074975 = 35.3597 BTC [+] {3} [19:58]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history. << 19th century? [20:00]
jurov !t m f.mpif [20:04]
assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00020614 / 0.00021257 / 0.000219 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC) [20:04]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski moar like ww2. [20:04]
jurov pete_dushenski they were topic of discourse in 20th, too [20:04]
pete_dushenski a ty [20:05]
jurov Is the deedbot documented on wiki or somewhere? [20:06]
jurov i'd like to put f.mpif stuff there [20:06]
pete_dushenski "If you can imagine it, you can create it with Headway Themes Framework (http://semperfiwebdesign.com/headway/) . The intuitive drag and drop visual editor makes it easy for a newbie or a hobbyist to custom build a great design but also doesn't get in the way of a more experienced designer or developer!" [20:06]
mircea_popescu jurov not documented yet, but would be a good thing to do. [20:07]
mircea_popescu and yes, that's where the fmpiff stuff should go. [20:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9845 @ 0.00074635 = 7.3478 BTC [-] [20:11]
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RagnarDanneskjol jurov - http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/ [20:15]
assbot DEEDS [20:15]
RagnarDanneskjol oh - I misread your Q [20:17]
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RagnarDanneskjol https://github.com/bitrecruiter/deedBot [20:18]
assbot bitrecruiter/deedBot GitHub [20:18]
jurov i see... clicked and wtf is this? :D [20:18]
RagnarDanneskjol he redid much of it since the last commits [20:18]
jurov lol i have to reverse engineeer it? [20:18]
RagnarDanneskjol I'm gonna keep everything @ deedbot.com starting in a few days [20:19]
RagnarDanneskjol I'm already working with a coupla guys to get it done in pyth [20:19]
bounce such haste [20:19]
jurov RagnarDanneskjol okay, is there something usable in logs? [20:20]
RagnarDanneskjol usable as in? [20:20]
jurov as in something i can follow [20:20]
RagnarDanneskjol regarding [20:20]
jurov regarding putting a deed on [20:20]
RagnarDanneskjol OH [20:21]
RagnarDanneskjol demo sure pls standby [20:21]
RagnarDanneskjol !up deedBot [20:21]
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jurov deedbot demo (nm, just bookmarking for later search) [20:22]
RagnarDanneskjol .deed https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed [20:22]
deedBot deed B98228A001ABFFC7 asciilifeform with 1 signature valid in next bundle [20:22]
deedBot deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle [20:22]
deedBot Found 2 valid deeds in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed [20:22]
deedBot Bundled: 21d5bb1d9e68af011117813f3684c84bb33348da85fb51f8b55d62ec128fa912-14ZCTfozD6UhTSyz5hMiBKo5RE6Gqu34i6.txt [20:23]
RagnarDanneskjol now wait until the top of the hour, will report bundled deed once its done [20:23]
RagnarDanneskjol .dump [20:23]
deedBot time=1412184106 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=17 [20:23]
deedBot DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (no pending deeds.) [20:23]
RagnarDanneskjol .balance [20:23]
deedBot deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00220000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu [20:23]
deedBot deedBot unconfirmed sent: -0.00022000 [20:23]
jurov that's all? there is no micropayment needed or such? [20:23]
RagnarDanneskjol someones will fund the seed address in advance [20:24]
RagnarDanneskjol or autofountain was discussed [20:24]
xanthyos about to get my first medical checkup since 1999. wonder what they'll find [20:25]
jurov thx [20:25]
RagnarDanneskjol mhmm [20:25]
jurov RagnarDanneskjol: i suggest immediate publishing of deeds as paid service [20:28]
jurov will fund itself then [20:28]
jurov sry if that was already discussed [20:28]
RagnarDanneskjol the cost of deed is a fe cents, so believe the idea was to have someone throw a bitcoin in there and have enough to cover all deeds for a year [20:29]
RagnarDanneskjol as for immediate publishing - I am all in favor of immediacy. believe the idea was bundling multiple deeds over an hour into a single tx was more efficient, etc [20:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30605 @ 0.00074537 = 22.812 BTC [-] {2} [20:37]
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jurov .deed http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201409.txt.asc [20:41]
deedBot deed 677ABD62D0AEE7D7 jurov with 1 signature valid in next bundle [20:41]
deedBot Found 1 valid deed in http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201409.txt.asc [20:41]
jurov .dump [20:43]
deedBot time=1412185291 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=1202 [20:43]
deedBot DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (1 deeds 1371 bytes in next bundle) [20:43]
RagnarDanneskjol jurov, do you mind throwing a few bitcents in there.. it only has enough for a couple of deeds left [20:44]
RagnarDanneskjol 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu [20:45]
jurov ;;ident RagnarDanneskjol [20:45]
gribble Nick 'RagnarDanneskjol', with hostmask 'RagnarDanneskjol!~ragnardan@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'RagnarDanneskjol', with GPG key id 35D2E1A0457E6498, key fingerprint B4AF6458D7D8A2846F91807935D2E1A0457E6498, and bitcoin address 14ixghmHMcB4szGL3ue5WJ1qnjnWnQXiP6 [20:45]
jurov okay [20:45]
RagnarDanneskjol i do not control the wallet [20:45]
RagnarDanneskjol MolokoDesk does [20:45]
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thickasthieves what's the deal with usg only making current-year tax form PDFs available as "drafts" [20:45]
thickasthieves seems like they just want you to order printed versions [20:46]
jurov i guess you did not gave me forged address [20:46]
RagnarDanneskjol .balance [20:47]
deedBot deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00220000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu [20:47]
deedBot deedBot unconfirmed sent: -0.00022000 [20:47]
RagnarDanneskjol oh -i miscounted a decimal spot - guess ther's enough for 20 deeds left [20:48]
jurov add that info to balance? [20:49]
RagnarDanneskjol good idea [20:49]
RagnarDanneskjol will push request onto git [20:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00074989 = 1.1353 BTC [+] [20:52]
TomServo !up deedBot [20:52]
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jurov wanted to check if my trezor still works, so sent half a bitcent to deedbot [21:01]
jurov what i found out: [21:01]
jurov 1. mytrezor.com stopped working under linux (worked before in ff/konq) [21:02]
jurov 2. if you create tx, enter a PIN then cancel the transaction [21:02]
jurov then next transaction won't require pin [21:02]
asciilifeform 'For the love of God, Montrezor!' [21:03]
asciilifeform !s Montrezor [21:03]
assbot 3 results for 'Montrezor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Montrezor [21:03]
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jurov .dump [21:13]
deedBot time=1412187098 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=3009 [21:13]
deedBot DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (1 deeds 1371 bytes in next bundle) [21:13]
penguirker New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/10/01/F.MPIF-September-2014-trading-statement [21:16]
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DoctorBTC Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... [21:32]
DoctorBTC (and you guys in b-a are like the smartest people in the universe...) [21:33]
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jaycutler6969 DoctorBTC are you fred ehrsam ? [21:40]
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jaycutler6969 https://twitter.com/FEhrsam/status/501826516829741056 [21:41]
assbot What is a compelling stat comparing growth in an environment of permission less innovation vs a similar one with friction? [21:41]
DoctorBTC jaycutler6969: you mean the coinbase guy? no [21:41]
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jaycutler6969 k [21:41]
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jaycutler6969 just similar question [21:41]
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DoctorBTC you're right... just coincidence [21:42]
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Dimsler coin incidence [21:42]
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punkman DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... <- what kind of systems [21:46]
jaycutler6969 DoctorBTC not sure this works for you, megaupload was some % point(s) of the total internet traffic at its peak [21:46]
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Dimsler DoctorBTC, bittorrent [21:48]
jurov i actually think sweet spot is somewhere in the middle between decentralization and centralization [21:48]
Dimsler actually online piracy [21:48]
Dimsler would be the best example [21:48]
Dimsler then you can just cite %90 of all economies trading in gold shekels before the 1800s [21:49]
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DoctorBTC punkman: i was thinking about historically... perhaps things in nature, civilization, businesses. [21:53]
Dimsler nature is always decentralized [21:54]
Dimsler you know what, your question blows [21:54]
DoctorBTC i know :P [21:55]
DoctorBTC I'm trying to get better at expressing some of these ideas and was hoping I could find some resource that could help me along. [21:56]
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thickasthieves punkman, cities/countries make good examples [22:22]
thickasthieves EU sux [22:23]
thickasthieves small country does not [22:23]
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thickasthieves also i see decentralization as a phenomenon or design choice for a system [22:23]
thickasthieves not better or worse in and of itself [22:23]
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thickasthieves oh wait it was doctorbtc that asked [22:24]
thickasthieves <+Dimsler> nature is always decentralized /// depends what you mean by nature [22:25]
thickasthieves centralization is order [22:26]
thickasthieves order can naturally occur and does [22:26]
Dimsler man made order is chaos [22:26]
Dimsler just like centralization [22:26]
thickasthieves if youre trying to be cute, sure [22:26]
thickasthieves but, no [22:26]
thickasthieves manmade order is intervention [22:27]
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Dimsler you're argueing semantics at best. [22:27]
thickasthieves op asked for examples/definition [22:28]
thickasthieves i am trying [22:28]
thickasthieves youre the one that said manmade is chaos [22:29]
Dimsler it is [22:29]
thickasthieves and other than to use the abstract concept of man's iatrogenic effect as a juxtaposition, that's just false [22:30]
thickasthieves to create is to make order [22:30]
Dimsler how do you articulate that [22:30]
Dimsler since it interjects in natural order [22:30]
Dimsler which is the undeniable foundation of life [22:30]
thickasthieves ? [22:31]
thickasthieves youre out there man [22:31]
thickasthieves not sure if i can reel you in [22:31]
Dimsler lol [22:31]
thickasthieves chaos doesnt mean "bad" [22:31]
Dimsler nobody said it did [22:31]
thickasthieves you just did [22:31]
thickasthieves saying it disrupts natural, which is "undeniable foundation of life [22:32]
Dimsler man post me the line where i say in any negative connotation that chaos is bad [22:32]
Dimsler sure, but using penecillin to interject as a form of medicine is also a disruption [22:33]
thickasthieves you are talking about effects [22:33]
Dimsler interjection in natural order [22:33]
thickasthieves whether something is chaos or not is not tied to its effects [22:33]
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Dimsler thats right [22:34]
thickasthieves chaos can cause order too [22:34]
Dimsler again back to semantics [22:34]
Dimsler lol [22:34]
thickasthieves lol this guy [22:34]
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thickasthieves what does this mean? no that's semantics! [22:34]
punkman ;;wp entropy [22:34]
gribble http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy | In thermodynamics, entropy (usual symbol S) is a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly ... [22:35]
thickasthieves ;;wd semantic [22:36]
gribble Error: "wd" is not a valid command. [22:36]
thickasthieves ''wp semantic [22:36]
thickasthieves ... [22:36]
thickasthieves ;;wp semantic [22:36]
gribble http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics | Semantics (from Ancient Greek: σημαντικός sēmantikós, "significant") is the study of meaning. It focuses on the relation between signifiers, like words, phrases, ... [22:36]
Dimsler ;;wd semantics [22:36]
gribble Error: "wd" is not a valid command. [22:36]
thickasthieves cant explore meaning without being semantic [22:37]
Dimsler the meaning was already expressed [22:37]
thickasthieves and i disagreed with it [22:37]
Dimsler no you didn't, you went and agreed with it [22:38]
thickasthieves troll time is over [22:38]
Dimsler i thought it was pb and j time? [22:38]
thickasthieves maybe it's decentralization is a defensive quality, centralization is an aggressive/offensive one [22:41]
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punkman anyone use this thing http://grsecurity.net/ ? [22:48]
assbot grsecurity [22:48]
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mircea_popescu mnope. [22:51]
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mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance << im putting a cent in there. [22:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33326 @ 0.00074375 = 24.7862 BTC [-] {2} [22:53]
mircea_popescu jurov: sry if that was already discussed << it was, yea. [22:53]
mircea_popescu jurov: then next transaction won't require pin << lmao such security. [22:54]
mircea_popescu DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << have them ask here. [22:54]
mircea_popescu i hope you appreciate the meta-win involved. [22:54]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [22:58]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 384.31, Best ask: 385.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.12000, Last trade: 385.44, 24 hour volume: 15008.52128967, 24 hour low: 377.01, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 386.228051414 [22:58]
penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/01/were-leading-you-away-from-golden-calves-and-towards-happiness/ [22:58]
pete_dushenski ^little bit of kant for your wednesday afternoon :D [22:59]
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Dimsler must worship mammon [23:00]
mircea_popescu can't we worship mammaries instead ? [23:01]
Dimsler only big ones [23:01]
Dimsler itty bitty titty committee need not apply [23:01]
pete_dushenski DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << ya, torrents, blogs, non-soviet restaurants [23:02]
mircea_popescu sex! [23:02]
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mircea_popescu "During this marriage he had an extended affair with his wife's younger sister Lady Alexandra Metcalfe, and with their stepmother, Grace Curzon, Marchioness Curzon of Kedleston, the U.S.-born second wife and widow of Lord Curzon of Kedleston." [23:09]
mircea_popescu dem brits. [23:09]
Dimsler http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/124961.jpg [23:11]
mircea_popescu .balance [23:12]
mircea_popescu !up deedBot [23:12]
-assbot- You voiced deedBot for 30 minutes. [23:12]
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mircea_popescu .balance [23:12]
deedBot deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00709000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu [23:12]
mircea_popescu eh. [23:12]
pete_dushenski Dimsler: lulz [23:13]
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deedBot Bundled: [23:23]
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nubbins` so [23:24]
nubbins` by what method is the deed hashed to obtain the privkey / address? [23:25]
nubbins` or, put another way, how do i know transaction X represents arbitrary deed Y? [23:25]
mircea_popescu nubbins` well this point was still being worked upon. the spec calls for the hash to be used as the privkey for the destination of the tx. [23:27]
mircea_popescu punkman tho says this doesn't work and molokodesk hasn't been back to clarify. [23:27]
mircea_popescu might need some more work there. [23:27]
nubbins` yeah, that's the only piece i'm missing [23:27]
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nubbins` ah, found it [23:30]
nubbins` http://dpaste.com/2ZSJKRG [23:30]
assbot dpaste: 2ZSJKRG [23:30]
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nubbins` at first glance, this function seems to be a bit wanky [23:31]
mircea_popescu myeah [23:31]
mircea_popescu this needs a rewrite [23:31]
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mircea_popescu if anyone's looking for how to go key->address, https://github.com/weex/addrgen is probably a good example implementation [23:34]
assbot weex/addrgen GitHub [23:34]
nubbins` ah, i was looking for a bare-bones implementation of this the other day [23:35]
punkman you just need an ecdsa library and base58 [23:36]
hanbot kinda cool to have an implementation made to be broken. [23:37]
hanbot who knows what may get discovered [23:37]
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nubbins` a nice companion tool on the deeds website would be a small form w/ textbox and button where one can generate pub/priv keys by the same method [23:38]
hanbot website genberated private key? [23:38]
nubbins` only if you have no idea how to properly give your web server access to sensitive data ;/ [23:39]
nubbins` as it is right now, i register a deed, some bot sends a few satoshis to an address, and i just sort of hope that this isn't just a random tx [23:40]
nubbins` because there's no easy way for me to verify that the priv/pub keys were, in fact, generated from the text of the deed [23:41]
hanbot oh you mean you don't want to actually do the work of verifying and would rather rely on the website's claim? [23:41]
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nubbins` yeah. that's what i mean. [23:41]
hanbot :) [23:41]
nubbins` if i'm doing the work of verifying, i might as well just publish my own fucking deed, no? [23:42]
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hanbot for your own use you mean? [23:43]
nubbins` let's back up a few steps. [23:43]
nubbins` what, in your mind, is the utility of deedbot? [23:43]
mike_c the utility is to be able to verify you said something specific in the past. [23:44]
hanbot that nubbins puts a deed there and someone else verifies the hashing (through, i understand, spending the input). [23:44]
hanbot mircea_popescu, i guess the trick you're not sharing here is that you'll be adding mining to this later on, huh? [23:44]
nubbins` okay. so why don't i just plug the text of my deed into brainwallet.org, and send the money there? [23:45]
hanbot a random digit or two or three. [23:45]
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nubbins` why am i getting a bot to do it for me? [23:45]
dignork why not just verifying btc address equality to deed's hash? [23:45]
hanbot nubbins`, why do you use gribble for that matter, you could just sneakernet to nanotube [23:45]
nubbins` because gribble is convenient. [23:46]
hanbot right. [23:46]
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nubbins` just like deedbot would be convenient, if i could use it to verify that the right address has been generated. [23:46]
hanbot also because it's what happens to be used. [23:46]
hanbot but it could lie to you. [23:46]
nubbins` it sure could! [23:46]
mike_c brainwallet method: you could prep 10 slightly different statements and pull out the most convenient one. [23:46]
mike_c not so with deed registry [23:47]
nubbins` that's why we all keep our own files, and we don't use ;;gettrust or ;;ident, right? [23:47]
nubbins` mike_c: what? [23:47]
hanbot mike_c, that's a good point! [23:47]
mike_c i want to prove that in july i said X, but with your method I may have prepped a few brainwallet messages and now be showing you one of them. [23:48]
nubbins` how is this different from just registering a few different deeds? [23:48]
mike_c i would be able to look at registry and see you prepped a few messages. [23:48]
punkman you can diy [23:48]
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punkman same thing [23:48]
nubbins` and i'd be able to look at the blockchain and see you prepped a few messages [23:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00074568 = 9.4701 BTC [+] [23:48]
nubbins` luckily, when we shook hands, we both new which btc address was the one we were using [23:49]
nubbins` so it doesn't matter how many extra statements the other party created. [23:49]
nubbins` *knew [23:49]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i dun get it. what's inconvenient ? [23:49]
nubbins` mircea_popescu it's inconvenient for me to verify that deedbot has registered my actual deed, instead of, say, $rand [23:50]
mircea_popescu hanbot holy shit how did you figure that one out ? [23:50]
mircea_popescu nubbins` why ? [23:50]
nubbins` because i don't have any tools with which to verify it [23:50]
mircea_popescu copy/paste the code on its github in your fav ide and run it. [23:50]
punkman because I didn't write the verifier script yet [23:50]
nubbins` yeah yeah [23:51]
nubbins` my fave IDE is the deedbot website tho [23:51]
mircea_popescu nubbins` your idea is broken because if the site will hash $rand it could as well print the "verification" for it. [23:51]
nubbins` it could indeed, yep [23:51]
mircea_popescu this is why you don't get your certificate from the same party you get the goods. [23:51]
mircea_popescu so there's no way to eschew a little work here. [23:52]
hanbot mircea_popescu ;) [23:52]
BingoBoingo Oh I thought Deedbot was using bundle hashes as pub keys and letting privates remain a mystery [23:52]
nubbins` BingoBoingo that'd be quite the trick [23:52]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no. private keys. so that lazy people can at least see the input was spent [23:52]
punkman BingoBoingo: that's what it does now [23:52]
mircea_popescu and figure hey, *SOMEONE* musta verified this [23:52]
mircea_popescu punkman you wanna fix this btw ? [23:52]
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mircea_popescu !up sensorii [23:53]
-assbot- You voiced sensorii for 30 minutes. [23:54]
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pete_dushenski http://finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-deposits-debt-payment-defying-us-judge-142317168.html [23:58]
assbot Argentina deposits debt payment, defying US judge - Yahoo Finance [23:58]
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punkman mircea_popescu: not rly, maybe I'd be up for rewriting it into a supybot plugin [23:58]
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