Forum logs for 01 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00048551 = 11.5066 BTC [+] [00:02]
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smickles eww, windows :( [00:22]
thestringpuller people selling futures is doing this... [00:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19903 @ 0.00048528 = 9.6585 BTC [-] [00:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 443200 @ 0.0033845 = 1500.0104 BTC [-] [00:30]
smickles ;;ticker [00:34]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.16861, Best ask: 11.17980, Bid-ask spread: 0.01119, Last trade: 11.16861, 24 hour volume: 38005.85903264, 24 hour low: 10.70543, 24 hour high: 11.18799, 24 hour vwap: 10.98574 [00:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100N] 1000 @ 0.42679787 = 426.7979 BTC [+] [00:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110N] 800 @ 0.38438129 = 307.505 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 600 @ 0.35136273 = 210.8176 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130N] 400 @ 0.32453329 = 129.8133 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140N] 200 @ 0.3026916 = 60.5383 BTC [+] [00:37]
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smickles 0_o [00:39]
smickles <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 443200 @ 0.0033845 = 1500.0104 BTC [-] [00:40]
smickles is that gsdpt? [00:40]
mircea_popescu ugh. [00:41]
mircea_popescu i don't think i can look [00:41]
PsychoticBoy almost every asset issuer on GLBSE is taking btc and leaving [00:46]
dub they got btc back? [00:46]
PsychoticBoy since nefario never gonna give the asset info [00:46]
PsychoticBoy some people got btc back [00:46]
dub I thought only people that personally contacted nefario through some secret handshake process got btc [00:47]
dub s/secret handshake/reacharound/ [00:47]
PsychoticBoy then nefario is a bigger fraud then estimated [00:47]
PsychoticBoy I live 200 km from him, maybe a visit? [00:47]
dub I'll contribute to your travel :) [00:48]
PsychoticBoy I give him a handshake PERSONALLY and he gives btc, deal [00:48]
dub send me a finger [00:48]
PsychoticBoy You get the arm ;) [00:48]
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dub then I can give myself that reacharound [00:49]
PsychoticBoy and thats for sure ;) [00:49]
PsychoticBoy I email`d him, I called him, no response [00:50]
PsychoticBoy had more than 2K btc worth of assets and more than 200 btc cash, where is it?????????????? [00:50]
PsychoticBoy + ABM and FDBF (+ assets) [00:51]
mircea_popescu sad. [00:51]
PsychoticBoy :( [00:51]
dub don't worry deadterra got paid [00:51]
dub oh and BTC-Mining [00:52]
thestringpuller PscyhoticBoy how many coins does your mining rig get you a day? [00:52]
PsychoticBoy sure, if you kneel [00:52]
PsychoticBoy but I am no ass licker [00:52]
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PsychoticBoy 4-5 btc sringpuller (ABM only has 1 single the rst is personal) [00:53]
PsychoticBoy I have about 10Gh/s [00:53]
mircea_popescu im looking forward to 2015 or so, when asics have become well established, there's a few classic chip designs [00:54]
mircea_popescu and some people are running > 10k units in dc floors [00:54]
dub when DMC is up and running [00:54]
dub (lol) [00:54]
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mircea_popescu making yotahashes a reality [00:54]
* PsychoticBoy is laughing his fucking pant off [00:54]
PsychoticBoy s [00:55]
dub in 2015 eveyone will be panicing about worthless 1st gen asics because BFL will have a nanotube asic out in november [00:55]
mircea_popescu bfl makes it to 2015 ? [00:56]
PsychoticBoy sure thing is, this whole GLBSE, DMC, usagi and you name them I know more and you do too saga is kinda funny in a way [00:56]
dub it will generate 1.21yotahash and feed excess power it draws from the planck field back into the grid [00:56]
PsychoticBoy lolz [00:57]
mircea_popescu PsychoticBoy it is funny in at least two ways [00:57]
mircea_popescu one of them being, THAT GLBSE HAD JUST FINE CSS [00:57]
mircea_popescu and also, its own domain. [00:58]
PsychoticBoy coincedence? or scam? [00:58]
dub no cp though [00:58]
PsychoticBoy lol [00:59]
PsychoticBoy cp is more for the hidden wiki ppl [00:59]
PsychoticBoy maybe its a good idea to add mpex to the hidden wiki [01:00]
PsychoticBoy lolz [01:00]
mircea_popescu o, the HIDDEN wiki [01:00]
PsychoticBoy just kiddin [01:00]
PsychoticBoy you know kid din [01:00]
PsychoticBoy lolz [01:00]
PsychoticBoy I have to stop drinking [01:00]
PsychoticBoy yes THE hidden wiki [01:00]
mircea_popescu lol he's having fun by himself. [01:01]
PsychoticBoy I am easly amused [01:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32099 @ 0.00048181 = 15.4656 BTC [-] [01:02]
thestringpuller in [4~ we trustcrytpography [01:13]
thestringpuller ugh! [01:13]
thestringpuller in cryptography we trust [01:13]
thestringpuller such lag in this starbucks [01:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6401 @ 0.00048181 = 3.0841 BTC [-] [01:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11978 @ 0.00048137 = 5.7658 BTC [-] [01:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23921 @ 0.00048052 = 11.4945 BTC [-] [01:29]
thestringpuller i summom the mircea_popescu [01:35]
thestringpuller summon* [01:35]
thestringpuller and challenge thee to monopoly [01:36]
thestringpuller why the fuck are all the options gone [01:36]
thestringpuller smickles pm real quick [01:40]
jurov prolly bot is having vacation [01:40]
mircea_popescu gone ? [01:41]
thestringpuller y did a bunch just get bought? [01:41]
mircea_popescu for to has ? [01:42]
thestringpuller i smell conspiracy [01:43]
thestringpuller call me richard belzer [01:43]
smickles thestringpuller: there is occasionally a gap b/t when mircea's bot cancels its orders and replaces them at a new price [01:48]
mircea_popescu actually, bot puts quotes in with expiration times [01:49]
mircea_popescu sometimes it doesn't run fast enough and the orders expire before new orders being put in [01:49]
mircea_popescu (someother times it has two sets of orders in briefly) [01:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27390 @ 0.00048052 = 13.1614 BTC [-] [01:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00047901 = 4.4548 BTC [-] [01:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3265 @ 0.00047668 = 1.5564 BTC [-] [01:54]
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jurov haha, unlike my attempts to cancel and quickly put new orders [02:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41935 @ 0.00047668 = 19.9896 BTC [-] [02:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1365 @ 0.00047666 = 0.6506 BTC [-] [02:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00047666 = 8.3416 BTC [-] [02:46]
mircea_popescu jurov : they cancel automatically cause the bot places them with expiration set. [02:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20786 @ 0.00047859 = 9.948 BTC [+] [03:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4114 @ 0.00047859 = 1.9689 BTC [+] [03:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1099 @ 0.00047821 = 0.5256 BTC [-] [03:37]
jurov yes, i cancelled tham manually [03:39]
* jurov reaped monthly brokerage fees and can go sleep [03:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00047757 = 14.9002 BTC [-] [04:02]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [09:28]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com [09:28]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 15:58:37 2012 [09:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00048803 = 4.3923 BTC [+] [09:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00048832 = 2.3439 BTC [+] [09:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30320 @ 0.00049006 = 14.8586 BTC [+] [10:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7480 @ 0.00049099 = 3.6726 BTC [+] [10:00]
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mircea_popescu http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/enhanced-buzz-wide-22152-1351692876-3.jpg [10:17]
mircea_popescu this is kinda interesting [10:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21248 @ 0.00049097 = 10.4321 BTC [-] [10:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00048912 = 17.1681 BTC [-] [10:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00048578 = 7.5296 BTC [-] [10:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7669 @ 0.00049097 = 3.7652 BTC [+] [11:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1794 @ 0.00049099 = 0.8808 BTC [+] [11:16]
knotwork yay, finally got marketcetera's web interface running [11:22]
knotwork Marketcetera Tradebase is a web-based reporting application for all of your trading activity. [11:22]
knotwork It can be used to view, create and modify positions, trades, accounts and equities. [11:22]
mircea_popescu cool [11:27]
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knotwork it seems to have no login, as if either its intended you run it in-house or you slap http auth over it or something [11:30]
knotwork just localhost:3000 and its like you are the head of IT for the whole brokerage [11:31]
knotwork but, what it talks to on the back end is your marketcetera order router which is hub all these components talk through [11:32]
knotwork so maybe its up to the stragegies your strategy engine or router uses to control which consoles can do what [11:32]
knotwork it looks like you can do anything but its using FIX protocol to communicate so maybe when you place and order you are not supposed to you will just get a rejected back [11:33]
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EskimoBob knotwork: did you get the Marketcetera talking to OT? [11:39]
EskimoBob wrong channel [11:39]
knotwork I only a few minutes ago got it to talk at all, to my web browser [11:39]
knotwork probably to get it to talk to OT or to MPEx we would need to make a filter that translates FIX protocol orders/commands into OT or MPEx protocol [11:40]
knotwork its more for doing things like getting live quote streams from Yahoo Finance and placing orders on the NYSE or a Forex place etc [11:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34961 @ 0.00049311 = 17.2396 BTC [+] [11:42]
knotwork but in principle one should be able to add more currency pairs for USD/BTC and so on, and use it to talk to any bitcoin exchange that can handle FIX protocol [11:42]
knotwork and maybe soon also use it to implement bitcoin exchanges and stock-exchanges that can talk to mainstream brokerages and forex exchanges and stockmarkets [11:43]
EskimoBob but first things first ... how to get that damn GLBSE bs resolved :) [11:44]
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EskimoBob it's 9:45 in London [11:45]
knotwork it looks like marketcetera could implement distributed brokerages [11:46]
knotwork since when you design your strategies it looks like you could easily send all your orders to umpteen places at once [11:47]
knotwork so you could have servers all around the world with order places on any of them propagated to all of them [11:47]
EskimoBob I do not want to call him again :( . There are pople with way bigger portfolios than me but none of those fucktars have balls to call him up. Instead they spin stupid theories in the forum and scare themselves to believing that shit they write. [11:47]
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knotwork just set up a strategy that knows not to actually submit any orders from any of your other servers to the stock market, just submit them to your archives [11:48]
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mircea_popescu EskimoBob what do you suppose calling some loser based in london is to achieve ? [11:50]
mircea_popescu if they want to cyber they prolly call an ex. [11:50]
knotwork it looks like distributed markets should be easy too, since it seems to be designed so you can set up strategies to do things like first see if you can settle orders between your own users, then see if other brokerages might be able to fill them, and only end up going to NYSE or whatever if brokerages cannot settle it among themselves [11:50]
knotwork clearly this web interface though it not for customers to come visit on your machine with their browsers [11:53]
knotwork it is for them to visit on their own machine's localhost:3000 with their browsers [11:53]
knotwork consulting their own machine's mysql database for their own positions and accounts and such [11:54]
knotwork and running their own order routing service on their own machine to route their orders to whichever exchanges or brokerages etc based on their own routing strategies [11:54]
knotwork so basically its for "power users", brokers and such [11:55]
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knotwork "Marketcetera has captured with great clarity what an emerging high technology hedge fund is looking for. Their software is open, clear, powerful, broker-independent, and simple to get up and running." [11:57]
knotwork Marketcetera democratizes access to high frequency trading. Our Open Source Automated Trading Platform provides you with the agility to implement your new strategies in moments, even while you reduce your infrastructure costs. Download. Run. Trade. [11:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00049311 = 3.5997 BTC [+] [12:07]
thestringpuller do you ever sleep? [12:14]
thestringpuller or is it like evening theree [12:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1315 @ 0.00049311 = 0.6484 BTC [+] [12:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00049424 = 19.2754 BTC [+] [12:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4485 @ 0.00049447 = 2.2177 BTC [+] [12:32]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: how many btc would I have to pay you to edit my paper? [12:35]
thestringpuller :) [12:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.0004912 = 0.4421 BTC [-] [12:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00049141 = 15.0863 BTC [+] [13:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00049359 = 1.1812 BTC [+] [13:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31883 @ 0.00049359 = 15.7371 BTC [+] [13:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15376 @ 0.00049359 = 7.5894 BTC [+] [14:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8724 @ 0.00049447 = 4.3138 BTC [+] [14:14]
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kakobreklaaa ;;bc.stats [14:19]
gribble Error: "bc.stats" is not a valid command. [14:19]
kakobreklaaa ;;bc,stats [14:19]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [14:19]
kakobreklaaa you are invalid. [14:19]
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EskimoBob try that help. It send you to a completely useless page [14:20]
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kakobreklaaa hm still no reply from my casascius order 20 days ago [14:33]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller edit your paper ?! [14:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31387 @ 0.00049447 = 15.5199 BTC [+] [14:40]
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EskimoBob sun is up soon and I'll take hike to the the shop to see what happened to "ART" tee/coffee cups [15:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23237 @ 0.0004912 = 11.414 BTC [-] [15:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21263 @ 0.00049086 = 10.4372 BTC [-] [15:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 296 @ 0.00049447 = 0.1464 BTC [+] [15:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30183 @ 0.00049519 = 14.9463 BTC [+] [15:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13956 @ 0.00049086 = 6.8504 BTC [-] [15:57]
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mircea_popescu "Yes, 2.0 was pretty much the beginning of all this, though I'd prefer the perspective they had when it was implemented as a command-line client." [15:59]
mircea_popescu lmao this is hysterical [15:59]
mircea_popescu "glbbq errs : became less like mpex" is the objection. yet they can't bring themselves to utter it. [15:59]
thestringpuller glbse didn't have options [16:00]
thestringpuller so it's not the same at all [16:00]
thestringpuller apples to rotten oranges :P [16:00]
mircea_popescu this just discusses infrastructure [16:06]
mircea_popescu i think they had a ssh-ish thing at some point [16:06]
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mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [16:15]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0033845 / 0.00338456 / 0.00339944 (445020 shares, 1,506.20 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00300117 / 0.0034 (2108663 shares, 6,328.48 BTC) [16:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.0004885 = 14.7039 BTC [-] [16:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00048824 = 0.7324 BTC [-] [16:22]
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