Forum logs for 01 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

ThickAsThieves	its done	[00:00]
dub	fucking china	[00:00]
ThickAsThieves	friedcat will posting more deets after his nap	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/131/btc-will-have-a-new-highest-price-in/	[00:02]
dub	what was the actual payment per share?	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	resolved. who'd have thunk it will be february seriously.	[00:02]
dub	this is lulzy	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	dub Feb 28 20:46:46 Got my asicminer div. 0.0023544 BTC per share.	[00:03]
dub	ok actual payment was good	[00:03]
Lyspooner	mircea_popescu: according to your permanent plateau article, you would've thunk it	[00:03]
dub	I only got 0.1 satoshi per share int eh test though	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	Lyspooner yeah.	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	dub weren't all payments = 1 satoshi irrespective of shares ? just to check addy	[00:03]
dub	I DEMAND MY ADDITIONAL SATOSHIS	[00:04]
dub	mircea_popescu: no, mine was missing a zero	[00:04]
dub	oh wait	[00:04]
dub	wat?	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	lmao. so now we know you have 10 shares ?	[00:05]
dub	no	[00:05]
dub	try to keep up	[00:05]
ThickAsThieves	dub they did a test first	[00:05]
dub	also how the fuck do you send 0.1 satoshi ? ;)	[00:05]
ThickAsThieves	1 satoshi x shares you own	[00:05]
ThickAsThieves	then they did payout	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	you had 10 shares got 1 satoshi computed per share div. right ?	[00:05]
dub	yes, except in my case they didnt	[00:05]
dub	no	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	my theory ;/	[00:05]
dub	I got 0.1 satoshi per share	[00:05]
ThickAsThieves	did you get correct divs?	[00:06]
dub	yes	[00:06]
ThickAsThieves	let's get the pitchforks then	[00:06]
dub	my carefactor is 0.00001	[00:06]
dub	except its kinda retarded of them	[00:06]
ThickAsThieves	one thing i love about bitbet	[00:07]
dub	one retarded action begets another	[00:07]
ThickAsThieves	is when i forget that i bet on something	[00:07]
ThickAsThieves	and the money comes in	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	i guess it makes a pretty decent gift too	[00:08]
dub	this fucking thread	[00:09]
jurov	yes it's nice... now if i could learn to make acceptable bets :/	[00:09]
dub	I wanna buy 2.7 shares please PM me its srs bsns	[00:09]
jurov	with coinlab it's hard cause nobody knows what they're even doing/wanna do	[00:10]
ThickAsThieves	i was thinking, a good round of bets might be for those tv competition shows	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	jurov yeah srsly i don't think it's your fault	[00:10]
ThickAsThieves	like who will win Top Chef	[00:10]
ThickAsThieves	Top Model, etc	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves that's a point yea	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/39/network-difficulty-under-6-million/	[00:11]
dub	I like the fatest americans show	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	i find this incredible. 3:2 srsly ?!	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	how the fuck is output growing 50% in three weeks	[00:11]
dub	biggest loser	[00:11]
ThickAsThieves	ha i bet on ttaht one too and didnt remember	[00:12]
Bugpowder	This is why nobody buys my XDIFFMAR	[00:12]
Bugpowder	like	[00:12]
Bugpowder	damn	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	only 15 btc total...	[00:12]
dub	its pretty much teh only tv I watch, gf calls out 'fatties are on' and I run	[00:12]
ThickAsThieves	Survivor	[00:12]
ThickAsThieves	thats a good one	[00:12]
ThickAsThieves	for betting	[00:13]
dub	nah, I want to kill americans if I watch that	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	the last i saw something on tv tiffani amber thiessen was like 17	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	and pretty hawt at that.	[00:13]
dub	the only thing worse than an american is an american out of america	[00:13]
ThickAsThieves	she's still pretty hot	[00:13]
ThickAsThieves	she play The Perfect Wife on that show White Collar	[00:14]
mod6	dub: you're not gonna let me live on your couch?	[00:14]
mod6		[00:14]
dub	wait thats not survivor, im thinking greatest race	[00:14]
kakobrekla	btw whats the max diff change per diff change	[00:14]
ThickAsThieves	horrible show	[00:14]
kakobrekla	i forgot	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla 400	[00:15]
kakobrekla	400 what	[00:15]
kakobrekla	%?	[00:15]
dub	survivor I can't watch because I am basically bear grylls and I want them to die for lack of survival skills	[00:15]
ThickAsThieves	amazing race, my wife goes oh we should do that! i'm like, why, these people all wanna kill each other in the end	[00:16]
Lyspooner	kakobrekla, yes 4x	[00:16]
kakobrekla	aha	[00:16]
kakobrekla	ok	[00:16]
Lyspooner	happened once to the namecoins	[00:16]
kakobrekla	death also happend to those once	[00:16]
Lyspooner	easy	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	yes %	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	i had some namecoins once i think	[00:17]
dub	did you? or did mircea_popescu?	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	ahahah! actually,	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	someone had them for me, cause they registered some domains for me.	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	tru story, fo realz.	[00:19]
dub	what on earth for?	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	dub well at the time a. i was new and b. the entire dns seemed like it may work	[00:19]
dub	you're that guy that registered the dictionary right?	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	it wasn't anything worth the mention anyway.	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[00:20]
dub	probably the glbse ticker squatter too	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	no i think i had mpoe or w/e	[00:20]
ThickAsThieves	LTC is doing pretty well this week	[00:22]
ThickAsThieves	considering	[00:22]
kakobrekla	compared to bananas?	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	is ltc the scam one ?	[00:22]
ThickAsThieves	nah	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	solidsomething ?	[00:22]
kakobrekla	yes L = solid	[00:22]
dub	ripple	[00:22]
kakobrekla	lul	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	a ltc is the one altchain that's not really scammy ?	[00:22]
ThickAsThieves	nvc is the loud scam currently	[00:22]
dub	ppcoin is the jesuscoin	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla soLid hater :D	[00:23]
kakobrekla	:)	[00:23]
ThickAsThieves	ltc back at 7 cents ea	[00:23]
kakobrekla	usd or btc	[00:23]
kakobrekla	?	[00:23]
ThickAsThieves	usd	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	what's the block count ?	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/S.MPOE-PT o hey, mpoe shares worth like a quarter ltc.	[00:27]
ThickAsThieves	303599	[00:29]
ThickAsThieves	blox	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	"I have updated average hashrates used in our calculations. Currently LTC is 1.15 times more profitable than BTC. We don't take into account energy costs in our calculations."	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	sounds legit.	[00:29]
ThickAsThieves	yeah i like litecoinglobal	[00:29]
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ThickAsThieves	whenever btc rises too fast ltc plummets	[00:30]
ThickAsThieves	then you snag em up and buy btc stocks on ltc global	[00:30]
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mircea_popescu	interesting	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves is there a webwallet like blockchain.info's ?	[00:31]
ThickAsThieves	i dunno	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	this looks kinda promising https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page	[00:32]
ThickAsThieves	i dont store any ltc	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	anyone know Jonathan Warren ?	[00:32]
ThickAsThieves	just play it against btc	[00:32]
jurov	bitcoin gods have smitten me for the blasphemy of questioning tx fees: https://blockchain.info/tx/ff83b94bbcfd52f84e205edebb8dd1c30253d785c666776cb735edba7a93f6b4	[00:32]
jurov	still unconfirmed... i shall repent	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	two hours	[00:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17.25 BTC [-]	[00:34]
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ThickAsThieves	&ticker	[00:40]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 33.33000, Best ask: 33.39527, Bid-ask spread: 0.06527, Last trade: 33.39547, 24 hour volume: 127753.02919259, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.64861	[00:40]
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jcpham	)ticker	[00:41]
jcpham	*ticker	[00:41]
jcpham	$ticker	[00:41]
ThickAsThieves	•ticker	[00:41]
jcpham	~ticker	[00:42]
jcpham	^ticker	[00:42]
ThickAsThieves	¢ticker	[00:42]
ThickAsThieves	׎ticker	[00:42]
ThickAsThieves	+ticker	[00:42]
jurov	ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ ticker	[00:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.2999 = 2.6991 BTC [-]	[00:43]
dub	!ticker ,,ticker	[00:43]
assbot	Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?	[00:43]
kakobrekla	Just lucky i guess.	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	ah im the coolest ticker boy	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	other boys wanna be as cool but	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	there can only be one	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	lalala	[00:47]
jurov	very suspicious good mood there	[00:47]
jcpham	i concur	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	my 1.76 liter bottle of vodka is still mostly full.	[00:48]
dub	mix it with red grapefruit juice	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	im mixing it with fresh orange juice actually.	[00:54]
dub	for bonus points find some elderflower to infuse in it then mist with the red grapefruit	[00:56]
*	dub has some home distilled elderflower vodka	[00:56]
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BitHub	hey did you guys get another payment from asicminer?	[00:57]
dub	2nd or 3rd?	[00:57]
BitHub	i woke up to a payment this morning	[00:58]
BitHub	a nice chunky worth	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	dub since you happen to mention this	[00:58]
dub	they paid a ~2% div after the test run	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/elderberry-cordial/	[00:59]
BitHub	sweeet	[00:59]
BitHub	that's duuuubs	[00:59]
BitHub	thanks	[00:59]
dub	mircea_popescu: cool	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	one of my fav drinks.	[01:00]
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dub	goog fails to translate it, do the bugs go in the cordial a la tequila worms?	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	nah, they're extraneous. just happened to have a lot of them	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	for some odd reason. it was like a sort of comedy routine, another bug kept popping p	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	anyway, elderberry cordial is one of those things that make eastern europe eastern europe	[01:04]
dub	I don't know if berry and flower are even related but only flowers are harvested in our case	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	i call it elderberry cause it's the name of the plant.	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	otherwise yes, the flower in full bloom are used.	[01:07]
dub	probably the same then, you should try mixing some with the vodka	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	nah cause it has sugar added	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136209270610.jpg i wonder if she catches many bad guys.	[01:08]
dub	just to flavour not as the acutal mixer	[01:08]
kakobrekla	impractical footwear.	[01:09]
BitHub	i'm here for you mircea	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla maybe she ain't made for walkin'.	[01:09]
mircea_popescu	BitHub you love me too ?	[01:09]
kakobrekla	i dunno, id be afraid to hurt myself around her	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	;;google love hurts	[01:10]
gribble	Love Hurts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; nazareth love hurts (1976) - YouTube: ; Nazareth - Love Hurts - YouTube:	[01:10]
kakobrekla	;;google fuck shouldnt hurt (too much)	[01:10]
gribble	Olivia Newton-John - Love Shouldn't Hurt Lyrics: ; Heartbreak Quotes: ; Breastfeeding is not supposed to hurt:	[01:10]
BitHub	of course mircea i love you very much (no homo)	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	;;google you're just being sexist.	[01:11]
gribble	Seth MacFarlane and the Oscars' Hostile, Ugly, Sexist Night : The ...: ; Seth MacFarlane's Sexist Oscar Night: Why everyone is outraged ...:	[01:11]
kakobrekla	;;google fine w/e	[01:11]
gribble	WeLoveFine - for fans by fans: ; We Feel Fine / by Jonathan Harris and Sep Kamvar: ; Weekly Standard's Fred Barnes: Fine, We're The Party Of Whitey ...:	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	;;google spam detected	[01:11]
gribble	Why is my Message Detected as Spam?: ; Bayesian spam filtering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Email Spam Detection, Prevention, and Protection Solution – Anti ...:	[01:11]
kakobrekla	;;google where?	[01:11]
gribble	Where's My Refund - It's Quick, Easy and Secure.: ; where - Wiktionary: ; Where \| Define Where at Dictionary.com:	[01:11]
mircea_popescu	ok i give.	[01:11]
kakobrekla	00:11.43 ( gribble ) Where's My Refund	[01:12]
mircea_popescu	actually the nazareth song is pretty good.	[01:12]
kakobrekla	no refund, this is bitcoin	[01:12]
kakobrekla	cant do dat!	[01:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5599 @ 0.00071771 = 4.0185 BTC [-]	[01:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071528 = 3.5764 BTC [-]	[01:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17.25 BTC [-]	[01:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1651 @ 0.0007147 = 1.18 BTC [-]	[01:13]
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mircea_popescu	four score and eight years ago back when i was still a kid you couldn't finish a party w/o love hurts.	[01:13]
mircea_popescu	it was the final my place or your place settlement.	[01:13]
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BitHub	i dont think i've heard that song	[01:17]
dub	watch the movie dazed and confused for its standard application	[01:18]
dub	as mircea_popescu says	[01:19]
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mod6	that guy jason london was in the news lately LOL	[01:19]
mod6	http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/29/jason-london-arrested-crapped-assault-mug-shot/	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	is that the one with the jovovich woman ?	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	the fetish joan of arc / 5th element, lanky model ?	[01:20]
dub	yus	[01:20]
dub	mila jojojojoYOLOvish	[01:20]
dub	in fact one of teh best movies ever	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	"Guess what faot? I fing love this. I fing own you guys so hard. I'm rich and I'm a motherfing famous actor! F**ing look me up, bitch."	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	sad.	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	why do actors end up living such sad, empty existences ?	[01:21]
BitHub	she was real hot in 5th element	[01:21]
mod6	no clue	[01:21]
mod6	what a fucking douche bag	[01:21]
mircea_popescu	they're almost like boxers, except without the soothing cranial nerve numbing	[01:21]
BitHub	because its hollywood	[01:21]
BitHub	and you got to do some reall queer ghey ritual stuff to make it	[01:22]
mod6	haha, he got his shit rocked though	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	"Some guy thought I was hitting on his girl and had me jumped. My wife was in the next room, had no idea what even happened. I hate Arizona."	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	dude srsly ? i loved arizona	[01:22]
mod6	same	[01:22]
dub	http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0518715/ he's been in a great many things I've never heard of	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	possibly for the same reasons.	[01:22]
mod6	speaking of which...	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	i guess now i have to see Dazed and Confused huh	[01:22]
mod6	any smickles these days?	[01:23]
dub	yes you do	[01:23]
mod6	;;seen smickles	[01:23]
gribble	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 12 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: pong	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	nope smickles has been awol.	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	i hope he's fine	[01:23]
dub	it came out when I was in high school, my parents saw it and told me someone had made a movie about me and my friends	[01:23]
mod6	i bet he's just at the bunny ranch	[01:24]
mod6	i know i would be	[01:24]
Namworld	does TMZ really counts as news...	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	dub lmao	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	Namworld dude totally. i trust them above reddit.	[01:25]
BitHub	don't see the movie dazed and confused	[01:25]
BitHub	unless you enjoy comas	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	France’s industry minister Tuesday called for a lower euro and said the European Central Bank’s [ECB] role should be reinterpreted, wading back into a currency debate that had been calmed by an agreement between the world’s top finance ministers earlier in the month to refrain from competitive devaluations of their currencies	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	o boy.	[01:33]
dub	the movie proceeded to be watched by my group of friends any time a night wsa over and people were in varios states of stupor/comedown	[01:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00849 BTC [-]	[01:35]
dub	conservatively I'd guess I've watched it 100 times	[01:35]
mircea_popescu	at 10 bux a pop the movie industry of america made > 1k dolla off this great success.	[01:36]
dub	in the western world we had innovated to the point of VHS by that time	[01:37]
mircea_popescu	piracy!	[01:38]
dub	this was also far enough int eh past that a movie ticket was closer to $5	[01:38]
mircea_popescu	also piracy.	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	and tax evasion.	[01:39]
BitHub	el mariachi	[01:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4113 @ 0.0007306 = 3.005 BTC [+]	[01:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00074007 = 1.8872 BTC [+]	[01:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00074837 = 12.161 BTC [+]	[01:42]
BitHub	damu assbot	[01:42]
BitHub	how u do that	[01:42]
dub	has anyone tried calling smickles?	[01:47]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3313 @ 0.00642 = 21.2695 BTC [-]	[01:57]
mod6	i didn't wanna bother him really	[01:57]
mod6	just an address here, no number: http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/corp-detail.p?name-id=L18030781	[02:01]
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Bowjob	;;ticker	[02:08]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 33.40000, Best ask: 33.43800, Bid-ask spread: 0.03800, Last trade: 33.43800, 24 hour volume: 126480.50958443, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.69548	[02:08]
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Bowjob	So maybe Yifu ran away with the money after all	[02:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 17.25 BTC [-]	[02:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6815 = 2.0445 BTC [-]	[02:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.682 = 3.41 BTC [+]	[02:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.687 = 3.435 BTC [+]	[02:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]	[02:38]
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Bowjob	oh yeah dividends	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	it paid ?	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	dub im with mod6	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	no pressing business, just hoping he's ok.	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob wait,what ? link ?	[02:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9809 @ 0.00075 = 7.3568 BTC [+]	[02:47]
dub	im just curious, I know he was holding coin for at least mrstringpuller	[02:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12356 @ 0.0007537 = 9.3127 BTC [+]	[02:52]
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Bowjob	wait no it did not lol	[02:57]
Bowjob	i just said.. oh yeah, meaning dividends coming up	[02:57]
Bowjob	lol	[02:57]
mircea_popescu	i meant re yifu	[02:58]
Bowjob	Well, we haven't heard from him yet, we'll see	[02:58]
Bowjob	but today is the deadline, so i expected him to go.. blah blah, batch 1 all sent	[02:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0064 BTC [-]	[02:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 399 @ 0.0065 = 2.5935 BTC [+]	[02:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 60 @ 0.00417 = 0.2502 BTC [-]	[03:01]
dub	Avalols will be had	[03:07]
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Bowjob	if it turns out to be a scam, ill consider it a failed 50% satoshi bet	[03:11]
kakobrekla	i think its good to se new faces in mining	[03:12]
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Bowjob	i still have no clue on how to run avalon	[03:13]
Bowjob	lol	[03:13]
kakobrekla	;;bc,stats	[03:13]
gribble	Current Blocks: 223671 \| Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 \| Next Difficulty In: 104 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 14 hours, 51 minutes, and 25 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 4400531.71063 \| Estimated Percent Change: 20.52911	[03:13]
Bowjob	it cant be that hard	[03:13]
dub	kakobrekla: how is project x coming along?	[03:13]
kakobrekla	which of the four?	[03:13]
dub	damn. come on bfl	[03:14]
dub	right now there still a chance of making my coin back	[03:14]
Bowjob	bullshit fabrication lab	[03:14]
kakobrekla	on what?	[03:14]
dub	on bfl	[03:14]
kakobrekla	you bought their shit?	[03:14]
Bowjob	how much did u spend	[03:14]
dub	I bought a pga single early on and an i teh top 100 order for an upgrade	[03:15]
Bowjob	ur prolly better off hoarding the coins	[03:15]
kakobrekla	and we had respect for you!	[03:15]
dub	like fuck you did. but hey, I waited till their pga existed and there wasnt a whole lot of choise about upgrading	[03:16]
dub	choice*	[03:16]
Bowjob	damn. ASIC miner	[03:17]
Bowjob	:/	[03:17]
Bowjob	i didnt get any	[03:17]
Bowjob	lol	[03:17]
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mircea_popescu	avalols lol	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	lol wait. waitwait	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	dub doesn't have btc cause they suck but he has bfl receipts of equity investing becauise they don't suck ?!	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	ajhahahaha	[03:27]
dub	yeah man bfl ? btc any day	[03:28]
dub	s/?/>	[03:28]
BitHub	i got an email from bfl asking for another 100btc, just to secure my order more, legit?	[03:29]
dub	wat	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	no wai ?!	[03:29]
BitHub	jk	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	hi sir please send money to secure your sent money more	[03:29]
BitHub	haha	[03:29]
BitHub	imagine that	[03:29]
*	BitHub shakes head	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	what we mean is this : we put the money you sent as a payment for a toyota camry	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	now if we don't make the next payment we lose the car	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	so...	[03:30]
*	Ukto sends mircea_popescu a toy-yoda	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	toyadda lol	[03:30]
BitHub	what we mean is "we need to go on another holiday, so.......yeah could you send another secure payment to make the last payment more secure?"	[03:30]
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mircea_popescu	please to securitize your previous payment	[03:30]
dub	camry shmamry, corolla or nothing	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	toyota coyote.	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	that'd kickass.	[03:31]
BitHub	"we need to go on another holiday because we're so stressed up and people keep calling us all the time where are the bfl's and we just need to get away to france for a month or something yaknow?"	[03:31]
*	dub lubs his corolla	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	everyone lubes their machinery	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	it's required for functioning	[03:31]
dub	moar like "we're going to need a lot more than a quarter to buy micon a clue"	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	wait. wait omg wtf. we have ycombinator to thank for disqus ?!	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	o burn them with fire.	[03:32]
Bowjob	*sigh,. avalol got the bflu	[03:34]
Bugpowder	My god... Zerohedge commenters are significantly more retarded than redditors	[03:35]
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Bugpowder	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-28/bitcoin-your-thoughts	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	this is true	[03:37]
mircea_popescu	i quoted a diff article yest, was horribly clueless.	[03:38]
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Bugpowder	Where are the intelligent forums these days? Reddit and slashdot used to be ok 4 and 12 years ago	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-26/alternative-currency-goes-mainstream-bitcoin-atms-emerge	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	get a load of that	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	replete with the "hands stuffed in ears going lalala bitcoin is a scam"	[03:39]
Bugpowder	I guess it's all on twitter now	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder i would guess some sections of irc.	[03:39]
Bugpowder	My twitter feed is excellent	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	something bashful likes to pretend they're the solution, but i dunno.	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	ya well, you probably curate it.	[03:40]
Bugpowder	I interact with nature editors, star scientists, great writers, etx	[03:40]
Bugpowder	Yes curation is	[03:40]
Bugpowder	Key	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	well if you curate it then everything is fine.	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	you can turn zh into gold by selecting the one nugged to be found in there	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	(somewhere)	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	the idea is to have something that works by itself.	[03:41]
Bugpowder	Also a 3:1 ratio of following to followers	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	followers means pretty much jack.	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	i turned my twitter acct into a rss feed of trilema, i still have k's of followers.	[03:42]
Bugpowder	I try to maintain a ratio that makes me look important. Like the line at the club	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	lol	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	then 1:3 ?	[03:43]
Bugpowder	Yah	[03:43]
Bugpowder	Oops	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	at least it wasn't brains.	[03:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00075 = 8.85 BTC [-]	[03:46]
Bowjob	satoshi dice not getting much love these days	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	whats it at, 13k ?	[03:48]
Bowjob	yah	[03:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.2999 = 1.7994 BTC [-]	[03:49]
Bugpowder	People are always about a week slow on sdice	[03:51]
Bugpowder	I am pretty sure there is another whale network with at least 10,000 coins doing a fair amount of betting	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	well da fuck.	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	so i quit twitter about 2 years ago ? cause it fucked up the site and it didn't work for me anymore.	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	so now you had me test it out and it works	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	i guess ima have to get back into it now ;/	[03:52]
Bugpowder	Yeah dude, get back in. It is not busted anymore	[03:53]
Bugpowder	And the quality level is very high in the right circles	[03:53]
Bugpowder	Plus it only takes a minute to write a post	[03:54]
Bugpowder	Rather than the 2 hours a good blog	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[03:54]
Bugpowder	Post takes	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	it only takes me 20-30 minutes really.	[03:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5018 @ 0.0007537 = 3.7821 BTC [+]	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	o wow, they added a request archive link	[03:56]
mircea_popescu	bejesus twitter desuckified in the interim	[03:56]
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mircea_popescu	haha i followed mod6	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	what's your name bugsy ?	[04:01]
BitHub	Are you hiring mircea?	[04:02]
thestringpuller	XD	[04:02]
thestringpuller	The whales live! Are the whales really rich people? Or just people who acquired BTC early on and held it.	[04:03]
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mircea_popescu	now the monster task of purging the 1k+ romanian hotties i used to follow	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	BitHub yes.	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	;;google mpex old style pr	[04:05]
gribble	MPEx hiring: old style PR : Bitcoin: ; MPEx hiring : old style PR pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; FAQ - MPEx:	[04:05]
thestringpuller	This is the best reddit post I've ever thing!	[04:06]
thestringpuller	seen*	[04:06]
thestringpuller	wtf	[04:06]
thestringpuller	I made a lisp when I typed...	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	lol ?	[04:06]
thestringpuller	Is bitcoinstore.com down for anyone else?	[04:08]
thestringpuller	Roger Ver is a poop.	[04:08]
BitHub	old style pr?	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	yea.	[04:09]
thestringpuller	leflor@machine-zero:~/bitcoin/src$ ping bitcoinstore.com	[04:09]
thestringpuller	PING bitcoinstore.com (50.97.67.189) 56(84) bytes of data.	[04:09]
thestringpuller		[04:09]
thestringpuller		[04:09]
thestringpuller		[04:09]
thestringpuller	Ctrl-^	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	dude all these nineteen yearolds that meanwhile are like... stale.	[04:10]
thestringpuller	wtf you on about?	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	my twitter acct	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	purging the lists	[04:15]
thestringpuller	what is your twitter	[04:16]
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mircea_popescu	mircea_popescu	[04:17]
thestringpuller	!ticker X.IDIFF.MAR	[04:17]
assbot	These beans is shit.	[04:17]
thestringpuller	!ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR	[04:17]
assbot	[MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (25 shares, 1.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06479693 / 0.07595 (343 shares, 22.23 BTC)	[04:17]
thestringpuller	25 have sold since last Thursday? Hmm.	[04:17]
Bugpowder	Buy buy buy	[04:18]
thestringpuller	LOL the X.IDIFF mini Bidwall at .59 came down	[04:18]
thestringpuller	HAHA	[04:18]
Bugpowder	.52 I think	[04:18]
thestringpuller	oh yea .529 :P	[04:19]
thestringpuller	;;calc .20 * 4407941.34969 + 4407941.34969	[04:21]
gribble	5289529.61963	[04:21]
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thestringpuller	guess he didn't wanna take the chance :P	[04:21]
thestringpuller	mpex is a scam waaaah	[04:25]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: is a big meanie head who runs a stock exchange	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	what'd i do now	[04:29]
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Chaang-Noi	asic miner dividend was less than i hoped, but at least they paid off debt:)	[04:32]
thestringpuller	;;rating	[04:34]
gribble	Error: "rating" is not a valid command.	[04:34]
BitHub	how often is it suppose to be, once a month?	[04:34]
thestringpuller	;;rate	[04:34]
gribble	(rate []) -- Enters a rating for in the amount of . Use optional field to enter any notes you have about this user. must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.	[04:34]
thestringpuller	;;getrating	[04:34]
gribble	(getrating ) -- Get rating information for .	[04:34]
thestringpuller	;;trust	[04:34]
gribble	Error: "trust" is not a valid command.	[04:34]
thestringpuller	;;help	[04:34]
gribble	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/	[04:34]
thestringpuller	;;commands	[04:34]
gribble	8ball, ?, about, action, add, alert, alias, announce, announce add, announce list, announce remove, any, aol, apply, apropos, asks, at, auth, author, avgprc, azn, balance, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, bashorg, bc,24hprc, bc,avgprc, bc,bitpenny, bc,blockdiff, bc,blocks, bc,bounty, bc,btcguild, bc,calc, bc,calcd, bc,convert, bc,deepbit, bc,diff, bc,diffchange, bc,eligius, (10 more messages)	[04:34]
mod6	&8ball	[04:34]
gribble	One would be wise to think so.	[04:34]
mod6	;)	[04:34]
mod6	wassup nao	[04:35]
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mircea_popescu	oookay...	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	so my twitter is back in business.	[04:39]
mod6	:D	[04:40]
BitHub	need me to run it for you mircea?	[04:40]
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mircea_popescu	haha run it for me ?	[04:43]
BitHub	the social media marketing side of mpex	[04:43]
BitHub	1btc a week :)	[04:44]
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mod6	there is a website!?	[04:46]
kakobrekla	it is now	[04:46]
thestringpuller	;;everify	[04:46]
gribble	(everify ) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).	[04:46]
thestringpuller	;;eauth thestringpuller	[04:46]
gribble	Request successful for user thestringpuller, hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/0FF2943DA179E169	[04:46]
mod6	kakobrekla: haha sweet	[04:47]
kakobrekla	:)	[04:47]
thestringpuller	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5af29369e5025bbf7423455eb3d2b10f55b11c8fc3be18129ad56e58	[04:47]
gribble	You are now authenticated for user thestringpuller with key 0FF2943DA179E169	[04:47]
mod6	you kids and your python	[04:47]
thestringpuller	;;ident	[04:47]
gribble	You are identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None	[04:47]
thestringpuller	new rating mr popescu	[04:49]
thestringpuller	:P	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[04:49]
thestringpuller	;;rated mircea_popescu	[04:49]
gribble	You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Feb 28 18:49:21 2013, giving him a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: upgraded to mah nigga.	[04:49]
BitHub	racist	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:50]
thestringpuller	the "what'd I do now" made me trust you more	[04:51]
thestringpuller	comment*	[04:51]
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pigeons	site looking good kakobrekla	[04:57]
kakobrekla	ty	[04:57]
pigeons	if you'd use bootstrap you might get some VC money	[04:58]
kakobrekla	lolzz	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu << so i brought my old twitter out of retirement	[05:02]
mircea_popescu	if anyone cares.	[05:02]
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ThickAsThieves	so NVC is falling, LTC is rising further	[05:26]
ThickAsThieves	.0755 USD now	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[05:29]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 33.41001, Best ask: 33.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 33.41001, 24 hour volume: 75885.19008028, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.00577	[05:29]
kakobrekla	its a different feeling	[05:30]
kakobrekla	lookin at 31.90 from this side	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:30]
kakobrekla	;;tsbl	[05:31]
gribble	Error: "tsbl" is not a valid command.	[05:31]
kakobrekla	;;tslb	[05:31]
gribble	Time since last block: 3 minutes and 33 seconds	[05:31]
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mircea_popescu	http://mpex.co/faq.html#11	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	added socket and sierracharts plugin courtesy of kako	[05:38]
BitHub	i need the ticker data	[05:39]
mod6	lol, i was just thinking "hmm, i wonder if there is a python plug in for vim..." the first return from google is this stack-exchange article where this has 11 points:	[05:40]
mod6	I really like the emacs editor for python because of it's smart tabbing for instance if I have something like this	[05:40]
mod6	EMACS?!	[05:40]
mod6	haha f that	[05:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.00643 = 2.572 BTC [+]	[05:40]
mod6	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9172802/setting-up-vim-for-python	[05:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 18 @ 0.35 = 6.3 BTC [+]	[05:43]
mod6	maybe i'll have to try something like this: http://sontek.net/blog/detail/turning-vim-into-a-modern-python-ide#window-splits	[05:43]
mod6	perl is seemingly on constant decay mode	[05:44]
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Namworld	People loading up for the dividend it seems	[05:49]
kakobrekla	whats the div gonna be	[05:50]
ThickAsThieves	like 1.4%	[05:50]
ThickAsThieves	a little less maybe	[05:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]	[05:51]
Namworld	;;calc (14000/100000000)/0.006	[05:54]
gribble	0.0233333333333	[05:54]
Namworld	More like 2.3%	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	hey! like asicminer!	[05:55]
BitHub	ALL HAIL ASICMINER	[05:55]
BitHub	AND ITS GLORIOUS DIVS	[05:55]
kakobrekla	;;tslb	[05:57]
gribble	Time since last block: 8 minutes and 11 seconds	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	course if we consider something like the .5 asicminer is trading instead of the original .1 in the calculation	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	the div drops to something more like .45%	[05:59]
Eduard_Munteanu	Have they listed it on any exchange yet?	[06:02]
Eduard_Munteanu	I kinda want to buy.	[06:02]
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Eduard_Munteanu	Maybe someone in here is selling.	[06:03]
BitHub	no selling	[06:03]
BitHub	stay away from me	[06:04]
Eduard_Munteanu	:)	[06:04]
*	BitHub hugs his asicminer shares	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	lol i think the forum was doing the selling	[06:04]
BitHub	its too late	[06:04]
Eduard_Munteanu	On bitcointalk? I've seen that thread, but I have no idea how to buy one.	[06:05]
BitHub	selling, trading was suppose to stop on the 28th.	[06:05]
Eduard_Munteanu	Why?	[06:05]
Eduard_Munteanu	I don't want in on the IPO, I know that's over. Just the secondary market.	[06:05]
BitHub	so friedcat could go through all the request and emails and assign shares to new people, its alot of work yaknow	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	prolly a klundy implementation of post-ex date	[06:05]
Eduard_Munteanu	Ah.	[06:05]
BitHub	just wait a few weeks	[06:06]
ThickAsThieves	.006?	[06:06]
ThickAsThieves	sry i'm late	[06:06]
BitHub	i think they're doing something under the name bitfountain	[06:06]
Eduard_Munteanu	Any idea when trading will resume?	[06:06]
BitHub	well they just paid the first div, sooooo	[06:07]
BitHub	few weeks?	[06:07]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [-]	[06:07]
Eduard_Munteanu	Hm.. what's BASIC-MINING?	[06:07]
Eduard_Munteanu	I know, probably unrelated.	[06:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.63899 BTC [-]	[06:07]
BitHub	be ready to pay high for them tho	[06:08]
Eduard_Munteanu	BitHub: how high?	[06:08]
BitHub	where you are, look at the moon or sun.	[06:08]
Eduard_Munteanu	Heh.	[06:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]	[06:08]
Eduard_Munteanu	I've been told 1 BTC is a borderline acceptable price.	[06:08]
BitHub	yeah i was think around that	[06:09]
BitHub	1btc	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144319.0	[06:10]
mircea_popescu	girl says .5 to .75 or so	[06:10]
ThickAsThieves	i was pretty far off with that sdice div	[06:12]
ThickAsThieves	i think i just got the 14k mixed up with the % in my head	[06:12]
ThickAsThieves	although i dont think .0060 is fair avg price to use	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.dice	[06:13]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00580004 / 0.00626259 / 0.0063799 (55247 shares, 345.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00572194 / 0.0062105 / 0.00638999 (316226 shares, 1,963.92 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00602991 / 0.007395 (6837075 shares, 41,226.99 BTC)	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	wh not ? 30 day vwap.	[06:13]
ThickAsThieves	i suppose	[06:13]
ThickAsThieves	but that includes the tranches	[06:13]
ThickAsThieves	which were flipped	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	um	[06:14]
BitHub	lul mircea, not a real girl	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	huh ?	[06:16]
BitHub	is she real or is it just you?	[06:17]
BitHub	you can tell me :)	[06:17]
mircea_popescu	she's real.	[06:18]
ThickAsThieves	how come she doesnt hang in here	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	well, she wouldn't hang on the forum either if it weren't her job	[06:18]
BitHub	yeah she should be on irc, marketing/pr	[06:18]
BitHub	keeping BitHub company	[06:19]
BitHub	why are you cockblocking the rest of us mircea? :(	[06:19]
Namworld	Because that would be extra work for PR, so more salary to pay?	[06:20]
Namworld	and mircea is already handling IRC	[06:20]
BitHub	extra? i thought it was included ontop of social media?	[06:21]
mircea_popescu	ya there's little benefit of redundancy.	[06:21]
ThickAsThieves	mp, any new IPOs this spring?	[06:21]
mircea_popescu	if any companies worth listing get their shit together...	[06:22]
BitHub	lul	[06:22]
BitHub	when are you going to do a deal with wallstreet like coinlab?	[06:22]
mircea_popescu	so far we're still at the "but we don't need more btc" / "we are making our own exchange" phase it seems.	[06:22]
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mircea_popescu	BitHub in 2012.	[06:22]
ThickAsThieves	mp, who do you think are the best non-"public" bitcoin companies that would feasible IPO someday	[06:23]
ThickAsThieves	not necessarily on mpex	[06:24]
ThickAsThieves	wherever	[06:24]
mircea_popescu	hard to tell.	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	pretty much everything is needed.	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	we need a bitcoin ebay. that bitmit thing ain't it. once it exists it could ipo	[06:29]
mircea_popescu	something like bitmessage.org could ipo if it actually finished the product and monetized it	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	in between these there's a huge space. pretty much anything could if it made sense.	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	currently there's not that many people focused on making sense tho.	[06:30]
ThickAsThieves	whats bitmit's problem	[06:31]
ThickAsThieves	other than that it feels scammy to surf	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	complete lack of relevance basically.	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	what's the value proposition, why am i using it instead of ebay ?	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	"because bitcoin" ? that dun wash, it's not 2011.	[06:32]
ThickAsThieves	while i dont disagree i cant think of what could make a bitbay more relevant	[06:32]
mircea_popescu	there's this failed "web entrepreneur" mindset at work, "we make the site, the users fill it with stuff". that's nonsense.	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	simple : large supply of actually in demand goods cheaper than in fiat.	[06:33]
ThickAsThieves	like a retailer	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	show me a bottle of coke costing 99 cents on ebay and 96 cents on bitmit.	[06:33]
BitHub	bithub.asia will ipo	[06:33]
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ThickAsThieves	sry all i could find was a $32 weed stash https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/16772-soda-can-safe	[06:36]
ThickAsThieves	no coke	[06:36]
kakobrekla	> ideal for hiding your valuables in plain sight.	[06:37]
kakobrekla	hey dude why is your beer not in the fridge?	[06:37]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[06:37]
ThickAsThieves	put it in the fridge then	[06:38]
ThickAsThieves	"hey man why is there weed in your beer"	[06:38]
kakobrekla	hey dude why there is no beer in this beer	[06:38]
ThickAsThieves	still a lot of room for online gambling	[06:38]
kakobrekla	problems all around.	[06:38]
ThickAsThieves	sealswithclubs is a trainwreck website	[06:38]
kakobrekla	it is.	[06:39]
ThickAsThieves	bitbet poker then?	[06:39]
BitHub	something better will come along	[06:39]
BingoBongo	I'm not sure I haven't seen any online poker that doesn't look like a shit show.	[06:40]
BitHub	bitpoke.com	[06:40]
ThickAsThieves	you think a bitstaprint.com would take?	[06:41]
ThickAsThieves	i assume vistaprint.com is wellknown in the world	[06:42]
ThickAsThieves	forgive me if that was a random reference	[06:42]
BingoBongo	A Bitstaprint might take, but the margins might suck.	[06:43]
ThickAsThieves	vistaprint really did fuck everyone in that sense	[06:43]
ThickAsThieves	no margin left	[06:43]
ThickAsThieves	although i still broker printing thru my biz for way more than vistraprint charges	[06:44]
ThickAsThieves	small biz will pay for better printing	[06:44]
ThickAsThieves	ive debated doing a bitcoin printer site	[06:44]
BingoBongo	The Vistaprint model seems to be:	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves what's wrong with seals ?	[06:45]
BingoBongo	1. Collect a lot of capital	[06:45]
BingoBongo	2. Die way too slowly undercutting the competition	[06:45]
ThickAsThieves	its totally unappealling to even consider reading their offerings	[06:45]
kakobrekla	lame ops, lame client, lame lamers	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	hm	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	so someone should make a poker site then	[06:45]
ThickAsThieves	seals looks like a scam	[06:45]
ThickAsThieves	if they just spent a few grand on some hot design	[06:46]
ThickAsThieves	tahts go a long way	[06:46]
ThickAsThieves	thatd*	[06:46]
mircea_popescu	this "design solves problems" approach is naive.	[06:46]
ThickAsThieves	not solves	[06:46]
ThickAsThieves	facilitates	[06:46]
mircea_popescu	design is not cocksucking.	[06:46]
ThickAsThieves	it's makeup though	[06:46]
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BingoBongo	Seals big problem now seems to be Micon can't take a little bit of retliatory trolling from BFL and his gamlbing instincts are betraying his lack of marketing instincts	[06:47]
ThickAsThieves	yeah he isnt doing his biz any favors	[06:47]
ThickAsThieves	with those youtube vids and shit	[06:47]
ThickAsThieves	or maybe he is	[06:48]
ThickAsThieves	no such thing as bad publicity some say	[06:48]
ThickAsThieves	mp, i dont think great design is required for utility, but it is a part of salesmanship and interactivity	[06:48]
ThickAsThieves	(aside from uix design, which is a diff converation)	[06:49]
BingoBongo	I've bet against BFL, but BFL can probably stay at the edge of shipping another 9 months and still keep some trust. The problem is that Josh is just a better troll than Micon.	[06:49]
ThickAsThieves	and people want what josh is selling	[06:49]
ThickAsThieves	compare avalon and BFL designwise	[06:50]
ThickAsThieves	which one can get away with more	[06:50]
ThickAsThieves	and appears more trustable	[06:50]
BingoBongo	Micon's problem is he revealed his scammer intuition on BFL, but he played the Queen's gambit and is falling apart now that Black took his bishop's pawn.	[06:51]
ThickAsThieves	even the product design of BFL is considered	[06:51]
BingoBongo	BFL and Avalon both look insufficiently competent to do what they do.	[06:51]
BingoBongo	Avalon's shipped maybe 5, 7 products in a month	[06:51]
BingoBongo	BFL "killed" a wafer to test their layout.	[06:52]
ThickAsThieves	indeed	[06:52]
BingoBongo	BFL also sent chips to get bumped without a goddam map.	[06:52]
splnkr	they did it cause of the lateness of everything else	[06:52]
BingoBongo	provided they did get chips into "bumping"	[06:52]
ThickAsThieves	the lateness was their own fault though	[06:52]
ThickAsThieves	they didnt have to ever be late	[06:53]
splnkr	i think that was a good idea, to 'kill' that wafer for testing given lateeness, cause that testing through which the killed wafer is going is the next step of the pipeline	[06:53]
ThickAsThieves	if they planned and managed the project properly	[06:53]
splnkr	and we at this poing should expect delays at every point	[06:53]
ThickAsThieves	it was a good idea PRwise	[06:53]
splnkr	so the testing's lateness is going in parallel	[06:53]
BingoBongo	If it was a 200mm wafer they easily killed $45,000 though	[06:53]
splnkr	45000 in sales, but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in long-term revenue, but -$$$$ in gain for those waiting	[06:54]
BingoBongo	Not in sales, in pure expense. Like BFL said that is roughly a thousand chips once it is broken up.	[06:55]
splnkr	yeah still, a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme	[06:55]
ThickAsThieves	splnkr dont overestimate how quickly these devices will be delivered because they killed that wafer	[06:56]
BingoBongo	The lost retail product that wafer might have delivered would probably be mid six figures if the box and fans are free	[06:56]
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splnkr	let's say for argument they have 10000 orders.	[06:56]
ThickAsThieves	their first shipments will be small	[06:56]
splnkr	average out to like 50ghs a sec	[06:56]
ThickAsThieves	also	[06:56]
ThickAsThieves	dont pretend they wont prioritize minirig buyers	[06:56]
BingoBongo	Raw order numbers mean nothing when you segment the market like BFL did	[06:56]
ThickAsThieves	cuz they will	[06:56]
splnkr	well that's why i'm saying average, from minirig to jalapeno	[06:57]
ThickAsThieves	minirig buyers can afford to fly out there and tear them a new asshole	[06:57]
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ThickAsThieves	they will probably hide that though	[06:58]
ThickAsThieves	by shipping slowly	[06:58]
ThickAsThieves	or lying about what portion of chips got used for what	[06:58]
splnkr	so we're talking 500THz capacity, i doubt one wafer loss is really that big a deal	[06:58]
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ThickAsThieves	yknow i could actually compete with vistaprint on some things	[07:01]
BingoBongo	One might not be bad, but it is one out of six, with some of those six apparently unfinished. It could be very bad if the tests fail.	[07:01]
ThickAsThieves	they arent as cheap as they used to be it seems	[07:01]
BingoBongo	Better cardstock?	[07:01]
ThickAsThieves	yeah	[07:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7420 @ 0.00075999 = 5.6391 BTC [+]	[07:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5151 @ 0.00076 = 3.9148 BTC [+]	[07:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.725 = 6.9 BTC [-]	[07:03]
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ThickAsThieves	damn they arent that cheap at all anymore	[07:03]
ThickAsThieves	$140 for 1000postcards	[07:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.679 = 2.037 BTC [-]	[07:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.68 = 4.76 BTC [+]	[07:04]
BingoBongo	Fuck postcards. How many business cards do you think you could deliver for $100 printing on veal parchment?	[07:05]
ThickAsThieves	0	[07:05]
ThickAsThieves	but my wholesale cost on 1000 UV gloss color business cards is like $17	[07:06]
ThickAsThieves	printed both sides	[07:07]
ThickAsThieves	which i retail for like $80	[07:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [+]	[07:08]
topace_	woohoo my HIM split script worked	[07:08]
ThickAsThieves	hehe grats	[07:08]
topace_	now down to ~$60/share instead of $600 :p	[07:08]
ThickAsThieves	but when will you release your asicssssss	[07:09]
topace_	haha talk to BFL :p	[07:09]
topace_	you know i wasnt bothered about the delays at all , since it just meant better return from the FPGA's... as long as everyone was delayed... but no w that some asics are out.. its gonna get annoying reaaaaaal quick	[07:11]
kakobrekla	;;bc,diff	[07:11]
gribble	3651011.6306932	[07:11]
kakobrekla	;;bc,stats	[07:11]
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gribble	Current Blocks: 223698 \| Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 \| Next Difficulty In: 77 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 10 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 4400426.03912 \| Estimated Percent Change: 20.52621	[07:11]
ThickAsThieves	annoying in about 11 hours	[07:12]
mircea_popescu	ahhh	[07:14]
topace_	lol yea	[07:14]
mircea_popescu	shrimp + pasta in garlic white sauce (whole flour!)	[07:14]
mircea_popescu	breakfast of champions	[07:14]
BingoBongo	Who has solid food for breakfast. Vodka + Simple Syrup FTW.	[07:15]
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mircea_popescu	thats for yesterday.	[07:16]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/	[07:18]
kakobrekla	ez money?	[07:18]
BingoBongo	Was Yesterday a special occasion that deserved better?	[07:18]
mircea_popescu	Mar 01 00:47:18 lalala	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	Mar 01 00:47:56 very suspicious good mood there	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	Mar 01 00:48:07 i concur	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	Mar 01 00:48:40 my 1.76 liter bottle of vodka is still mostly full.	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	Mar 01 00:52:06 mix it with red grapefruit juice	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	Mar 01 00:54:03 im mixing it with fresh orange juice actually.	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	nothing much	[07:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00637776 = 6.3778 BTC [-]	[07:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00637777 = 25.5111 BTC [+]	[07:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.651 = 1.953 BTC [-]	[07:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.6505 = 9.107 BTC [-]	[07:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-]	[07:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.649 = 1.947 BTC [-]	[07:22]
BingoBongo	I mean we passed the Mt Gox high, but apparently some exchange Blockchain.info follows had the high price at $35, so I've saving the cigars	[07:22]
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Bowjob	fuck the rain	[07:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.679 = 2.037 BTC [+]	[07:27]
BingoBongo	So, BFL is is Kansas City. Is Josh/Inaba Rock chalk like a Jayhawk or like General Quantrill does e see all of the common sense reasons why Lawrence should burn?	[07:28]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5655 @ 0.00076 = 4.2978 BTC [+]	[07:29]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.9988 = 1.9976 BTC [+]	[07:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 6 @ 1 = 6 BTC [+]	[07:34]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/LPmQ46C.jpg	[07:34]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin entrepreneur (he thinks)	[07:34]
Namworld	who's that?	[07:35]
BitHub	mircea wtf	[07:35]
BitHub	stop sharing my fb profile pic	[07:35]
BingoBongo	What happpened to his forhead?	[07:35]
kakobrekla	brain has to grow somewhere	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1568249#msg1568249	[07:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00637777 = 31.8889 BTC [+]	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	hes' the "bitmillions new" guy	[07:36]
Namworld	Oh, it's BitHub	[07:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.650005 BTC [-]	[07:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.650005 = 4.55 BTC [-]	[07:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 22 @ 0.65000001 = 14.3 BTC [-]	[07:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.65 = 4.55 BTC [-]	[07:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.649 = 7.788 BTC [-]	[07:37]
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BitHub	so this guy is an aussie scammer?	[07:37]
mircea_popescu	more like aussie idiot	[07:37]
BitHub	want me to bash him?	[07:38]
BitHub	i have a crew	[07:38]
mircea_popescu	no cause you might accidentally fix his hairline	[07:38]
kakobrekla	lol	[07:38]
BitHub	its no problem	[07:38]
mircea_popescu	he's bashed enough as it is	[07:38]
BitHub	okey	[07:39]
mircea_popescu	since bitcoin i've become real good at counting zeros	[07:39]
BitHub	i'm joking anyway i dont really do that	[07:39]
BingoBongo	MP, this trolling something awful deal is taking a while. In the interim could you maybe hold a contest for spotting extra chromosones on bitcointalk?	[07:40]
mircea_popescu	lol	[07:41]
Namworld	lol what	[07:41]
mircea_popescu	actually the trolling sa thing delivered in spades	[07:41]
mircea_popescu	tho i was doing most of the trolling	[07:41]
BingoBongo	I've recieved one of your gift certificates. I've got time now though where I am looking at the long troll. Get to the moderator control pnel and make threads disapear like thie twin towers.	[07:42]
Bowjob	so how many people got the ten btc trolling price	[07:43]
Bowjob	prize	[07:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]	[07:45]
*	splnkr sometimes wishes troll wasn't a verb	[07:46]
splnkr	i give just enough a damn about the IRC community to actually hang out; can't understand how some see it as the target for misanthropic gratification	[07:47]
splnkr	ther are SOOOOOOO many better targets	[07:47]
BingoBongo	What's a better target than SA?	[07:48]
splnkr	um, media?govt? fortune 500? stodgy educators?	[07:48]
splnkr	the list is practially endless	[07:48]
splnkr	scuse my spelling at this late hour	[07:49]
BingoBongo	Media's too easy. I've done local and regional papers a few too many times. Government trolls itself. I'm a stodgy educator... What targets are left nao?	[07:50]
splnkr	check yoself fool	[07:50]
splnkr	=)	[07:50]
BingoBongo	Ok, checked...	[07:52]
BingoBongo	I'm ready to fuck, been ready to fuck, these pants are so tight	[07:53]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 219 @ 0.0065 = 1.4235 BTC [+]	[07:56]
mod6	HAHA WAT	[07:56]
splnkr	sheesh, sorry i asked	[07:56]
BingoBongo	So... What's the deal with that Blockchain.info mixer?	[07:57]
Namworld	It mixes	[07:57]
BingoBongo	I mean the part where it has been phasing in and out of existence these past couple days.	[07:58]
Namworld	oh. No idea.	[07:58]
BingoBongo	Is that some bullshit, or is that some bull shit?	[07:58]
Namworld	both?	[07:59]
BingoBongo	I'm kind of wondering, where's the BitBets on the first S.BBET passthrough?	[08:04]
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Namworld	Which passthrough was the first one?	[08:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]	[08:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]	[08:08]
BingoBongo	I don't know that there is an S.BBET passthrough yet.	[08:10]
BingoBongo	You'd think as much as Kumala wants to monetize Virecurex and Crypto::Stocks he would race to set one up.	[08:11]
Namworld	There's one I manage and another on BitFunder	[08:11]
BingoBongo	Namworld, where's yours at?	[08:11]
Namworld	BTCT.co	[08:12]
Namworld	I find BitBet overpriced right now tho.	[08:12]
aiball	coinbr.com has bbet for sale	[08:12]
Namworld	makes 3	[08:12]
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BingoBongo	I don't know. I find it a bit underpriced for all the bets I've bought in on that won't realize till the end of the year...	[08:13]
aiball	definitely a buy and hold if anything	[08:14]
BingoBongo	If you are calling it overpriced Namworld I might finally have to get my shit together and finally register for that MPEX dealio	[08:14]
Namworld	I'm calling the shares as a whole overpriced.	[08:15]
Namworld	0.002 right now	[08:15]
Namworld	200'000 satoshi a pop. 20 000 BTC valuation.	[08:16]
BingoBongo	I now, that's thy I think they are qorth quite a bit more. Especially since the initial valuation for the whole enterprise was only 100 BTC.	[08:16]
Namworld	They take 1% in fees. Would take 2 million BTC in bets to make a 100% dividend.	[08:17]
Namworld	0.002 is 200x initial valuation	[08:18]
aiball	has anyone figured out the dividend for bbet this month? I might take a crack at it but just as likely might wait to see the number	[08:18]
BingoBongo	Details, details. There's also the house bets and idiots who bet against any sense.	[08:18]
Namworld	I think it was over-buyed at IPO, people panic buying.	[08:18]
BingoBongo	The BFL bet is going to throw everything for fruit loops	[08:18]
Namworld	now no one buys, no one sells. Almost.	[08:18]
aiball	the bets are boring	[08:19]
BingoBongo	Right now too many are. There is very little action on most bets.	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	well so make some good ones	[08:20]
aiball	I'm boring	[08:20]
aiball	how about a major us bank will deploy ripple by 2013	[08:22]
aiball	fuck, that's boring too	[08:22]
mircea_popescu	ill take the no on that.	[08:22]
aiball	I wanted no, but you're on if I can't think of something better in 30 minutes	[08:23]
aiball	1 btc, nobody gets hurt	[08:23]
BingoBongo	I have tried. A critical user mass is missing	[08:24]
aiball	tried what	[08:24]
aiball	?	[08:24]
mircea_popescu	i dunno about that,	[08:24]
mircea_popescu	the april bfl bet is alreayd over 20 btc	[08:25]
mircea_popescu	that's a healthy sum of change if you think about it.	[08:25]
mircea_popescu	scratch that, it's over 40 btc 0.0	[08:25]
Bowjob	how about one for avalon too to make it interesting	[08:25]
aiball	because none writing bets reads people magazine. I'm not going to volunteer, but I think that's what is needed here.	[08:25]
mircea_popescu	people magazine ?!	[08:26]
aiball	that's what I said.	[08:26]
mircea_popescu	i dun get it tho	[08:27]
aiball	celebrities and kittens get eyeballls.	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	there were a buncha oscars i recall	[08:27]
aiball	true	[08:28]
aiball	I'm heading over to people.com now. then I'll hit up oprah's site	[08:29]
aiball	eww	[08:29]
BingoBongo	Pari seems to still lack enough market makers	[08:29]
aiball	Is Tom trying to get custody of his daughter? maybe that's something. I can't believe I'm thinking of investigating this.	[08:30]
BingoBongo	Oh shit	[08:30]
aiball	anyone want to take a side on "Tom gets custody of Suri by the End of April? "	[08:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 120 @ 0.25512908 = 30.6155 BTC [+]	[08:34]
Bowjob	I made a bet for avalon on bitbet. lets get this shit rollin	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	who's suri	[08:34]
mod6	his daughter	[08:35]
aiball	By the way I'm talking about Tom Cruise. Suri is his daughter. Tom Cruise just divorced his Wife Katie Holmes	[08:35]
aiball	I sending up a 1 btc bet, just giving you insiders a chance to pick a side and I'll take the other.	[08:36]
aiball	I think that would be best for Suri and the other children.	[08:36]
BingoBongo	I just know bit365.eu won't be around long if they keep paying so much for betting against the Astros and Marlins...	[08:36]
BingoBongo	Suri stays with Katie, family law isn't that fucked yet	[08:37]
aiball	I guess that means I'm taking yes.	[08:37]
BingoBongo	I might throw a bitdime on no if it posts	[08:38]
aiball	.1 btc?	[08:40]
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BingoBongo	I imagine it would get too lopsided too fast for real money	[08:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.725 = 8.625 BTC [-]	[08:42]
aiball	I'm asking what is a btcdime	[08:42]
BingoBongo	0.1 BTC	[08:42]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/	[08:42]
mircea_popescu	there it is	[08:42]
Bowjob	you added more stipulatons?	[08:43]
Bowjob	:3	[08:43]
mircea_popescu	tried to make it into something	[08:43]
Bowjob	thats the one i submitted, right?	[08:44]
mircea_popescu	ya	[08:44]
Bowjob	prototypes lol wtf	[08:44]
Bowjob	inclined to vote no as a hedge	[08:44]
mircea_popescu	well the jgarzik stuff	[08:44]
mircea_popescu	BingoBongo how's lopsided ?	[08:45]
aiball	I voted no on avalon	[08:46]
aiball	I used .5 btc from Tom's basic refund.	[08:46]
BingoBongo	Cruise tends to lose in court	[08:47]
aiball	I put it up there, but didn't take a side by mistake. I'll take yes as soon as it's approved. That is unless your comment about court is some way to convince me to take no.	[08:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00072 = 0.0014 BTC [-]	[08:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00620001 = 1.86 BTC [-]	[08:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.00620001 = 1.488 BTC [-]	[08:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1811 @ 0.0062 = 11.2282 BTC [-]	[08:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 4687 @ 0.00610821 = 28.6292 BTC [-]	[08:51]
aiball	why sell s.dice right before the dividend?	[08:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.725 BTC [-]	[08:53]
mircea_popescu	heh, 10.56 on no	[08:53]
mircea_popescu	avalon ppl get no credit around here huh	[08:53]
aiball	all from you?	[08:53]
mircea_popescu	mnope	[08:53]
Bowjob	i wanna put no, but theres no yes	[08:54]
Bowjob	lol	[08:54]
Bowjob	mhm	[08:54]
mircea_popescu	anyway, im off. gl all	[08:54]
Bowjob	night	[08:54]
aiball	night	[08:54]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[14:52]
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ThickAsThieves	just submitted a couple bet ideas	[14:54]
ThickAsThieves	was wondering	[14:54]
ThickAsThieves	would it be unacceptable to say "The next winner of Project Runway will be homosexual"?	[14:55]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[14:55]
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mircea_popescu	well, it may be difficult to check	[14:55]
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ThickAsThieves	nah	[14:56]
ThickAsThieves	so much infiltrating of these peoples lives online probly	[14:56]
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ThickAsThieves	i suppose being flamboyant isnt proof...	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	if they say so it's one thing	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	if they don't tho...	[14:57]
pigeons	pics or gtfo	[15:00]
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mircea_popescu	pix of what ? their dilated bunghole ?	[15:01]
pigeons	goatse style	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.00641 = 0.1154 BTC [-]	[15:07]
Chaang-Noi	6-8 watts/G this is okay for asic?	[15:07]
Bowjob	hey mp	[15:07]
Chaang-Noi	from here, friedcat updated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1571278#msg1571278	[15:07]
Bowjob	your bet	[15:07]
Bowjob	umm	[15:07]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[15:07]
Bowjob	what do you mean by majority ships	[15:08]
Bowjob	because avalon 2's shipping is april 10th	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	jesus fuck these things are impossible aren't they.	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	majority of batch 1, not majority of all items they will ever produce	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	(and it is your bet!!1)	[15:08]
Bowjob	oh	[15:08]
Bowjob	okay then	[15:08]
Bowjob	Yeah	[15:08]
Bowjob	I will bet on Yes :P	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	that'll be a first.	[15:09]
ThickAsThieves	i wanna complain that he doesnt really give any dates or schedules, but then again, who ever really lives up to those...	[15:11]
mircea_popescu	well ya but still, things irl happen on some sort of timescale	[15:11]
Bowjob	http://i.imgur.com/KzY4tPF.jpg	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	update essentially says "we're working on it, we;ll get better!"	[15:11]
Bowjob	"Starting from next Monday, units will be en route to their country of destination and tracking numbers will follow maybe 2~3 days after (it is at this point onward which you can expect an email from us with the tracking information), we expect this process to continue to the 10th of March until all the units have been shipped out, if all is well people will get their units in-hand in the middle of March."	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	i was refering to asicminer	[15:12]
ThickAsThieves	nice pic, but we've seen so many boxes of fans	[15:13]
Bowjob	this one prints money	[15:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.685 BTC [-]	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob based on that text the bet is pretty relevant	[15:17]
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Bowjob	i guess	[15:17]
Bowjob	its a matter of shipping..	[15:17]
Bowjob	which monday however	[15:18]
Bowjob	i havent set the bet yet :P	[15:18]
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Bowjob	yifu said christmas came early to them	[15:20]
Bowjob	from winning the huge bfl bet	[15:20]
Bowjob	i guess they bet either 300+ or the 250 bet	[15:20]
Bowjob	prolly the 300+	[15:20]
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mircea_popescu	coolness.	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	wait, wasn't newyears just last week ?	[15:21]
Bowjob	umm month, but he's referring to this years xmas	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	:p	[15:23]
ThickAsThieves	&ticker	[15:23]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.08001, Best ask: 34.17002, Bid-ask spread: 0.09001, Last trade: 34.08001, 24 hour volume: 71974.65510805, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.23048	[15:23]
Bowjob	if this rally continues, I'll be able to afford a nice house at the end of the year	[15:24]
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Bowjob	then after that perhaps go back to school..	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	lol cool	[15:24]
Bowjob	my priorities are backwards.. usually people go to school first	[15:25]
Bowjob	..	[15:25]
Bowjob	lol	[15:25]
Zillion	mircea has the BFL March 1st bet paid out?	[15:28]
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kakobrekla	tecnical difficulites	[15:29]
kakobrekla	technical*/	[15:29]
kakobrekla	fuckin fucked fuck keyboad.	[15:29]
kakobrekla	rd	[15:29]
blu3gr1ffon	Zillion: I haven't seen my bet in my wallet yet	[15:29]
Diablo-D3	spacex is going to launch the dragon again at 10:10AM EST http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html	[15:29]
blu3gr1ffon	not sure how long it takes.	[15:30]
blu3gr1ffon	if we are talking about the the bitbet.us one.	[15:30]
mircea_popescu	Zillion not yet. will be paid out presently.	[15:30]
blu3gr1ffon	mircea_popescu: thanks!	[15:30]
Zillion	blu3gr1ffon ok thanks just curious...usually they are fast but this one is big	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	np np	[15:31]
Zillion	cool mircea	[15:31]
blu3gr1ffon	anyone getting in on the BTC/USD at Mt.Gox will hit $35 in March 2013 bet?	[15:34]
mircea_popescu	im sure some people are	[15:34]
blu3gr1ffon	i wonder why not more.	[15:36]
blu3gr1ffon	so close already	[15:36]
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mircea_popescu	ya srslty.	[15:37]
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Bugpowder	Spacexxxxx	[15:39]
Bugpowder	Big day	[15:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+]	[15:41]
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mircea_popescu	"Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-CA) claimed today that "over 170 million jobs" could be lost due to sequestration. "	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	why are these people even in congress ?	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	they're basically as dumb as reddit.	[15:44]
ThickAsThieves	coinlab's Buy $1M buttons are back	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	im sure that makes all the difference :D	[15:46]
splnkr	maxine waters might say extreme stuff sometimes but she's no fool	[15:47]
splnkr	she's among the best Congress has to offer	[15:47]
splnkr	she was the one to bring allegations of CIA crack cocaine trafficking to light in DC	[15:48]
splnkr	that's a pretty big deal in my book	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	splnkr that's my point	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	she's among the best congress has to offer and that's what she says	[15:48]
pigeons	yawn	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	does not compute	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	pigeons spam detracted	[15:49]
splnkr	in politics, sometimes you hyperbolize to make a point	[15:49]
splnkr	that's what you do when you're not lying	[15:49]
pigeons	spam retracted	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	splnkr ya well, here's the deal : if there actually existed 170mn jobs in the us it wouldn't be in the crapper would it	[15:49]
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splnkr	sometimes you take an extreme position to reach a better compromise	[15:49]
splnkr	it's called negotiation	[15:49]
splnkr	but i do see your point in this particular case	[15:50]
splnkr	she maybe meant to say 176K	[15:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.00641 = 12.82 BTC [-]	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[15:50]
splnkr	however I think a lot of us often react to what people say when they're taking extreme positions for negotiation purposes	[15:51]
splnkr	for example an apt. complex i was advising decided to build their own cogen plant because the electricity service was threatening much higher rates	[15:51]
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splnkr	well, now the electricity service backpedaled and is offering a continuation at the same rate	[15:51]
splnkr	but the apt managers were too dumb to realize they were just bandstanding	[15:51]
splnkr	now i wonder how this affects BTC speculation =P	[15:52]
pigeons	lieing and misleading sucks. even though lying and misleading is expected of politicians, it still sucks, and because of their position, perhaps sucks more	[15:52]
splnkr	well, maybe, or maybe it's that people suck, and force politicians to lie.	[15:52]
pigeons	people suck so im forced to kill and steal	[15:53]
pigeons	dont blame the poor politicians	[15:53]
splnkr	whoa whoa the killing and stealing are another issue altogether	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 9 @ 0.38 = 3.42 BTC [-]	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.39 = 1.95 BTC [+]	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.395 = 1.975 BTC [+]	[15:53]
splnkr	look, if you view a type of person as completely inhuman and one-dimensional so you can scapegoat them, you're never going to really understand why they are the way they are	[15:54]
splnkr	i had the experience of running for an elected office once and it totally changed my perspective	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	lieing and misleading sucks. even though lying and misleading is expected of politicians, it still sucks, and because of their position, perhaps sucks more <<< this. nonspam detected.	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	just make your motherfucking point, that's what a congress is for.	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	it's not a set of survivor or w/e	[15:55]
splnkr	so for example, sometimes what looks like stupidity from the outside is really willful ignorance	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	but it's always easier to self aggrandize and hyperbolize than make points	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	that's why the internet is so fulla hyperbolae	[15:56]
splnkr	well the irony here is that story about maxine waters misquoting a number probably got more exposure than the story about her exposing the CIA-crack connection in the 90's	[15:56]
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pigeons	im suprised you lost, you are a politician, now its "misquoting"	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	i guess this teaches the importance of not fudging numbers.	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	i certainly dislike people that do that more than people that do coke.	[15:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 700 @ 0.00641 = 4.487 BTC [-]	[15:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.73 = 3.46 BTC [+]	[16:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.685 = 1.37 BTC [-]	[16:01]
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splnkr	pigeons: i'm not trying to defend politicians, but explain them	[16:01]
splnkr	i have less than zero time for their BS	[16:02]
splnkr	they are leading the way to 100 years ago	[16:02]
splnkr	it's a joke and i don't care to stick around for the punchline	[16:02]
splnkr	to be constantly wrapped up in their misdeeds is paralyzing	[16:03]
splnkr	i'd rather just ignore and proceed =)	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	nice that you found btc then	[16:04]
splnkr	yeah i guess if you're going to jump down a rabbit hole it might as well be the one with the most potential to lead somewhere better	[16:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.63899 BTC [-]	[16:12]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+]	[16:12]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu ; I summon thee from da depths.	[16:19]
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Zillion	Still no love on that bet here mircea_popescu	[16:19]
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mircea_popescu	Zillion dun' worry, it'll be paid before bfl ships :)	[16:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.63899 = 2.556 BTC [-]	[16:21]
Zillion	LOL yeah but I am not the tycoon as you and need my measly coins	[16:21]
thestringpuller	BFL did not ship. Confirmed?	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	cooonfirmed	[16:22]
Zillion	checking one sec	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	Zillion srsly, we ran into some sendmany hairs, working at it, it will not be long.	[16:22]
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Zillion	np just wanting to be sure no wallet problems is all really	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	you can be sure of that.	[16:23]
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Zillion	thank ya sir...sorry, patience never been a strong suit for me	[16:24]
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mircea_popescu	np np	[16:24]
*	jurov expects trilema article with serious bashing of bitcoind rpc interface :D	[16:25]
mjr__	i think it would be awesome if we could lend our shares out on mpex...with an escrow feature of some sort	[16:25]
Zillion	why would you do that?	[16:26]
Zillion	very new to all this if that is a dumb question	[16:27]
mjr__	so others could short	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ and why can' you ?!	[16:27]
mjr__	and i could have my shares which are just sitting there earn extra income	[16:27]
ThickAsThieves	while ive never used btcjam, i like how the integrated using btct assets as collateral	[16:27]
mjr__	you COULD, but there is no escrow	[16:27]
Zillion	i see what you mean	[16:27]
thestringpuller	jurov: why do you expect that?	[16:27]
ThickAsThieves	they*	[16:27]
mjr__	risk averse	[16:27]
jurov	thestringpuller, cause mp mentioned sendmany hairs	[16:28]
thestringpuller	sendmany hairs?	[16:28]
thestringpuller	mjr__: smickles is working on something for that purpose I thik	[16:28]
thestringpuller	think*	[16:28]
jurov	mjr__, shorting is by definition incompatible with simple escrow	[16:29]
mjr__	mircea_popescu: I would rather have my shares in a pool for lending with the understanding that the guy has to have assets to back it up. Similar to bitfinex's system	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ you can find an escrow you trust, push to them.	[16:30]
mjr__	but instead of BTC or USD, S.DICE and S.MPOE	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	unlike the bitfinex system w./e that is, you actually have signed receipts to prove this on mpex.	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	what's the impediment ?	[16:30]
mjr__	yes true	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	im sure any of the pt ops would do this, for instance.	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	possibly for a fee tho	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	lol jurov	[16:31]
jurov	i understood mjr__ looks for a broker he'll just push the shares to and broker does the legwork	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	this may be a decent line of business	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	at least it is irl	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	locating shortable blocks	[16:32]
thestringpuller	jurov you should add a shorting pool	[16:32]
thestringpuller	set up some interest rates, you already have one donor :P	[16:32]
mjr__	i meant a more automated system, yes Jurov and collects a portion of the interest or fees i generate	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	there's no reason it can't be automated, for sure.	[16:34]
mjr__	ie. i can just leave my shares in that pool, but i specificy that my term will expire before dividends	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	actually iirc topace was working on some automation for crediting pushes to his PT	[16:34]
mjr__	even better win, if they win the bet, i can double down	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	this probably can be reused	[16:34]
mjr__	true	[16:34]
mjr__	my whole point is that i want to increase my long position, but i don't want to buy at market, so if people want to sell at market, and then have to cover, i can buy back my own shares	[16:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00075632 = 1.6639 BTC [+]	[16:35]
mjr__	if they are right and the short position works, i can increase my position for cheaper, if they are wrong, i get my original shares back anyway, and still rely on dividends	[16:36]
jurov	i'd prefer to run it closed with fixed interest, without dosclosing when i or someone other shorted and how much.	[16:36]
mjr__	exactly, i don't care who they are, i would rather trust mpex or coinbr than an individual person, provided that there is an autoclose out feature and there account is liquid enough to be able to buy back	[16:36]
jurov	transparency leads to somilar things like MPBPT investors bitching that i endangered their investment by setting the rate too high, lol	[16:36]
mjr__	some risk monitoring system	[16:36]
jurov	lmao maybe i can adapt bitcoinica code	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	lol listen	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	paying a fixed fee per week makes sense	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	0.1% or w/e	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	and dividends pass through to original owner	[16:38]
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jurov	yes that side is clear... but on the other side, maybe i can lend out to coinbr users where i can force liquidate them (hence bitcoinica reference)	[16:38]
mircea_popescu	:p	[16:39]
pigeons	i dont mind being force liquidated as long as you give it a cute nickname like "starfished" or "juroved"	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	anyway, certainly a valid development direction, this.	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	juroved works.	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	like brejnev'd except worse	[16:39]
mjr__	yes exactly, i don't want to rely on trusting them to return shares and be solvent	[16:40]
mjr__	if their account approaches insolvency they should get a margin call	[16:40]
mjr__	and if it reaches the point where they would be insolvent, they should be autoliquidated	[16:41]
jurov	okay, will plan it. but that even increases the risk of orders mismatch... mircea, how far are you with full tracking? did you determine it can be done?	[16:41]
jurov	who isn't following this - the "track" feature works basically only on half of transactions	[16:42]
jurov	the other half shows digest of other user's order	[16:44]
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mircea_popescu	are these connected somehow ?	[16:45]
Anduckk	yay	[16:45]
Anduckk	bitbet payment recvd	[16:45]
jurov	if i mismatch leveraged orders the mess will be bigger	[16:45]
jurov	brb	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	Zillion there you go.	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	sorry for the delay everyone. bitcoind is not yet exactly mature, needs a little expert oiling	[16:46]
mjr__	ah, good idea too, if you were to allow me to lend my btc out for margin on people it could work in the same system...but again, need very robust risk controls	[16:46]
Zillion	thats a BTC short for me???	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	it is ?!	[16:46]
Zillion	yes sir	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	which line we talking about ?	[16:47]
Zillion	weight 37`870	[16:47]
Zillion	2 btc	[16:48]
Zillion	you sent me 1.99	[16:48]
Zillion	1.98876913	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	um looking into this	[16:49]
Zillion	thank you	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	you mean 21-02-13 19:54 No 357 2.00000000 19PN8 1.98876913 1Bye9 ?	[16:49]
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Zillion	holy crap you are so right sir	[16:51]
Zillion	how did i screw that up	[16:51]
Zillion	sorry man	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	jurov : http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57549707/fead082c83a0625eb8cc22452b7f213d7be041e29a7d2c203e704b01ec6bb04b	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	check that out, 3.5kb tx :D	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	Zillion np np	[16:52]
Zillion	nothing like whining just to find out your wrong and last money :)	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	gotta be careful with the weights	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	becauyse site rtakes 1%	[16:52]
Zillion	i was up too late	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	so if odds are even and weight under 1k (out of the orig 100k) you may end up -	[16:52]
Zillion	i know the deal sir	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57549811/c6258eff0639d758015ed5dcdd8a1f1dcf7580ac833d52336b6ec4469f9281b5 and a 2.8kb tx with 0 fees ahaha	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	this bitbet stuff is informative.	[16:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/the-grid/bitcoin-virtual-currency-legitimacy-online-retailers	[16:59]
mjr__	i am curious if you could use blockchain analysis to get an accurate NPV of S.DICE dividends	[17:01]
mjr__	at the very least gross profit	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	people already do on the forum no ?	[17:01]
blu3gr1ffon	Zillion: I got my bitbet return	[17:01]
mjr__	haven't seen that yet	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	dooglus' stuff, no ?	[17:02]
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jurov	maybe the default end weight should be 1000 to account for this	[17:04]
jurov	not 1	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	jurov what about a bet like http://bitbet.us/bet/2/s-mpoe-will-crash-this-spring/	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	that's 100:1. end weight of even 11 makes you money.	[17:05]
jurov	mhm	[17:05]
blu3gr1ffon	so these bets with, so and so will happen by 4/1/2013, are they over if that something happpens on 3/5/3013?	[17:10]
blu3gr1ffon	or do they just sit there until the end to pay out?	[17:10]
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mjr__	do you do underwriting mircea?	[17:16]
mjr__	at this point i mean	[17:16]
mjr__	or do you just list	[17:16]
mjr__	i wanna get into the private equity game lol	[17:16]
thestringpuller	!ticker S.MPOE	[17:19]
assbot	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?	[17:19]
thestringpuller	!ticker m S.MPOE	[17:19]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075259 / 0.00076 (207052 shares, 155.83 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069755 / 0.00078 (17890704 shares, 12,479.69 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067287 / 0.00078 (67719739 shares, 45,566.99 BTC)	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	horsemeat found in tacobell	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	heh	[17:19]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: how bout this guy?	[17:20]
Guest31034	!ticker h sdice	[17:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.64000000 / 0.65926621 / 0.68950000 (139 shares, 91.63800308 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.65115724 / 0.69400000 (1192 shares, 776.17942766 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66313431 / 0.89000000 (11178 shares, 7412.51528089 BTC)	[17:20]
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thestringpuller	http://bitbet.us/bet/153/s-mpoe-will-rise-this-spring/	[17:20]
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mircea_popescu	that doesn't seem to get as much love for some reason	[17:20]
thestringpuller	it	[17:20]
pigeons	i would think horsemeat would cost more than cornfed cow meat	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	mjr__ i do a mix of both	[17:20]
thestringpuller	's too much of a futures bet	[17:21]
thestringpuller	June is a far away mr. popescu	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	blu3gr1f1on in general they're over	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	depends on the exact circumstances tho	[17:21]
Chaang-Noi	horse meat is cheap if it comes from a horse no one wants	[17:21]
thestringpuller	mircea, how do I find that article you wrote on the bonds	[17:22]
pigeons	mmm satoshi's daemon	[17:22]
Chaang-Noi	race horses are dog food	[17:22]
ThickAsThieves	meateater problems	[17:23]
pigeons	not a problem	[17:23]
ThickAsThieves	not in any meangingful sense, no it isnt	[17:24]
ThickAsThieves	but sure has a lot of people chatting	[17:24]
Chaang-Noi	i like horse	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller which one ?	[17:25]
mjr__	what i don't understand is that they eat horse meat when it's labeled horse	[17:27]
mjr__	i really wouldn't care if i found out i ate pork when i thought it was only beef	[17:27]
mjr__	big deal	[17:27]
thestringpuller	if within a few weeks’ time you find yourself in the position of having to decide whether a few million dollars go to a. free drinks and garter inserts at a number of strip clubs or to b. coinbase “second round of funding”, the correct business decision is certainly a. At least the strippers can actually provide an answer should anyone happen to ask “what the fuck are you doing”. <<< I think many VC's w	[17:27]
ThickAsThieves	in the US, mostly the only meat-switching news you hear about is with fish	[17:28]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: I found the one I was looking for.	[17:28]
ThickAsThieves	cheap fish being sold as expensive fish in restaurants	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	a kk	[17:29]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: I was looking for http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ btw	[17:30]
Anduckk	mircea_popescu is the string puller!!!	[17:30]
Anduckk	now i know everything	[17:30]
Anduckk	(btw thats is actually true)	[17:30]
Anduckk	gz on ur success	[17:31]
mircea_popescu	um wut	[17:31]
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thestringpuller	;;calc 344 + 364 + 6074 + -632	[17:34]
gribble	6150	[17:34]
thestringpuller	MPBOR is in the overall green	[17:35]
thestringpuller	nominal green* congrats mr. popescu!	[17:35]
thestringpuller	it's like the pirate month never happened...	[17:36]
mircea_popescu	yeh	[17:36]
mircea_popescu	cool	[17:36]
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mircea_popescu	jurov here's the rand you promised http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	i started off trying to be nice but by the end i was thoroughly pissed off so.	[17:40]
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gribble	1 BTC = 34.25001 U.S. dollars = 26.2693741 Euros	[17:43]
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Diablo-D3	fucking xchat	[17:44]
BitHub	hey now	[17:44]
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mjr__	so you underwrite and marketmake?	[17:45]
mjr__	mircea	[17:48]
jcpham	EskimoBob tell me about the things that make you angry	[17:50]
jcpham	i figured you were angry about something	[17:51]
jcpham	you normally seem angry	[17:51]
jcpham	I imagine you having steam coming from your ears	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	mjr__ to some degree. the way it practically works is mostly by putting min bids in during ipos	[17:51]
jcpham	like a cartoon	[17:51]
jcpham	i really do	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	nothing much came of it in the case of bitbet for instance, it took off way	[17:52]
blu3gr1ffon	is g.bbet on bitfunder bitbet.us?	[17:55]
BitHub	yes	[17:55]
blu3gr1ffon	BitHub: danke	[17:55]
BitHub	no problem	[17:55]
topace	!ticker m s.dice	[17:55]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00610821 / 0.00633093 / 0.00637777 (46523 shares, 294.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00572194 / 0.00621997 / 0.00638999 (320933 shares, 1,996.19 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00602873 / 0.007395 (6844333 shares, 41,262.64 BTC)	[17:55]
topace	!ticker h sdice	[17:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.64000000 / 0.65926621 / 0.68950000 (139 shares, 91.63800308 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.65115724 / 0.69400000 (1192 shares, 776.17942766 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66313431 / 0.89000000 (11178 shares, 7412.51528089 BTC)	[17:56]
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BitHub	blu3gr1ffon - https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.BBET	[17:57]
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gribble	1 BTC = 34.49900 U.S. dollars = 26.4603467 Euros	[17:57]
blu3gr1ffon	any hope for ziggap?	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	who are those ?	[17:58]
BitHub	ziggap are on bitfunder as well	[17:58]
blu3gr1ffon	they are, newly so. anybody used the service?	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	"Anonymous	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	I am done using this site. When you place a bet with a professional you want to be paid when the bet has resolved. Not when someone is good and ready to pay you. Mircea Popescu is a no better than any scammer before him."	[17:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	wtf is wrong with people srsly!	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	PAY ME NAO	[17:59]
BitHub	yes blue i have	[17:59]
BitHub	its a place to buy bitcoins from	[18:00]
BitHub	they do a few countries	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves ok but i mean... today is still the 1st wtf.	[18:00]
ThickAsThieves	for realz	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	banks regularly hold payments 2-3 days, what about that.	[18:00]
blu3gr1ffon	i guess people expect the perks of bitcoin to apply to bitbet	[18:01]
ThickAsThieves	guaranteed that person will bet agai	[18:01]
ThickAsThieves	n	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	stuff has to be checked, for one, it's not exactly pennies we're dealing here. stuff breaks half the time, as it was indeed the case this time. new code and all that.	[18:01]
blu3gr1ffon	he will	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	gotta give scammers like mircea_popescu some slack eh.	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves yea prolly.	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	he probly had some other bet or debt he needed to fill	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	i guess if you sit there and mash the f5 there's little difference between an hour and all eternity	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	who knows, maybe bad experiences.	[18:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [-]	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	who's the sack of shit now?	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	ugh why did i ask...	[18:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.685 = 6.165 BTC [+]	[18:05]
gribble	1 BTC = 34.49489 U.S. dollars = 26.4571944 Euros	[18:05]
ThickAsThieves	aww you guys didnt like my TV bets?	[18:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00637776 = 31.8888 BTC [+]	[18:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 38 @ 0.64500001 = 24.51 BTC [-]	[18:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.645 = 6.45 BTC [-]	[18:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.635 = 1.27 BTC [-]	[18:07]
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mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[18:09]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.49501, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 34.50000, 24 hour volume: 63944.06343327, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.24964	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 1689.81 * 33.25	[18:09]
gribble	56186.1825	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	bitbet is like vegas nao	[18:10]
ThickAsThieves	you can get hooker sthere?	[18:10]
ThickAsThieves	or what?	[18:10]
ThickAsThieves	i see my bet	[18:11]
ThickAsThieves	you were this close to a scammer tag	[18:11]
ThickAsThieves	i like the Survivor bet better though	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	https://blockchain.info/tx/36d2d306bf3798b9e3730239f58095cd7baeea5963cb9bcc736b6aa20b0b90c5?show_adv=true	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	15kb tx, no fee	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	this is afaik the record	[18:12]
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ThickAsThieves	you get the btc-pincher award	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	oldest coinbase award moar like it	[18:14]
Chaang-Noi	;;ticker	[18:18]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.60000, Best ask: 34.83988, Bid-ask spread: 0.23988, Last trade: 34.83990, 24 hour volume: 65618.15625339, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.28810	[18:18]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[18:18]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.60000, Best ask: 34.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 34.83990, 24 hour volume: 65618.15625339, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.28810	[18:18]
ThickAsThieves	oops	[18:18]
ThickAsThieves	the ;; is def easier than the & sadly	[18:19]
Chaang-Noi	echo:)	[18:19]
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ThickAsThieves	Isn't Google Glass already scheduled to ship in 2013?	[18:24]
ThickAsThieves	which was accelerated from when they said 2014 last year	[18:24]
ThickAsThieves	btw it's called Google Glass	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	not Google Glasses	[18:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00075999 = 3.04 BTC [+]	[18:30]
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error4733	TAKE MY MONEY !!	[18:31]
error4733	google glass ftw	[18:31]
mjr__	yeah i need google glass	[18:37]
mjr__	the new video was awesome	[18:37]
mjr__	and i saw a picture of sergey brin on the subway in nyc wearing them	[18:37]
ThickAsThieves	from the looks of their promo photos, you have to look pretty hip to own a pair	[18:38]
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Chaang-Noi	bulllls on parade!	[18:41]
mjr__	strong move	[18:42]
mjr__	!!!	[18:42]
mjr__	here comes 35	[18:42]
mjr__	no one ever went broke taking profits...sell sell sell	[18:43]
Chaang-Noi	i sold a bit today	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-01/consumer-spending-in-u-s-climbs-even-as-taxes-hurt-incomes.html	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	"Consumer spending in the U.S. rose in January even as incomes dropped by the most in 20 years, showing households were weathering the payroll-tax increase by socking away less money in the bank."	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	these people were already not saving enough.	[18:44]
mjr__	i was saying that as i kept my finger on the buy button, following goldman sach's modus operandi...tell people to do the exact opposite of what you plan on doing, and have them pay you for the "service"	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	the vote is in : the us public does not care whether the us ends.	[18:44]
mjr__	yes, but it is the system that makes savers into suckers	[18:44]
mjr__	i honestly think it may even be a partly subconscious effect whereby without concsciously realizing it, you know that saving is stupid when the value goes down so rapidly	[18:45]
mjr__	QE infinity and beyond	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	right.	[18:45]
Chaang-Noi	mp. america is fucked	[18:46]
ThickAsThieves	americans are so ignorant and detached from the political and financial world it isnt funny	[18:47]
Chaang-Noi	they have no clue	[18:47]
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ThickAsThieves	i can have an intelligent conversation with maybe 5% of the people i come across	[18:48]
Chaang-Noi	their parents or grandparents made all the money, now everyone has credit	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	actually seeing how the expenditure is in large part houses,	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	it's pretty smart. buy a house today for 100k of debt, wait for obama to make 100k = 1 pizza	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	then pay back, get free house.	[18:48]
mjr__	i like that plan	[18:49]
mjr__	but that is the point	[18:49]
ThickAsThieves	they even messed up real estate as investment for the middle and lower class	[18:49]
mjr__	debt is good	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves that's not limited to the us you know	[18:49]
mjr__	and they want eveeryone in as much debt as possible	[18:49]
ThickAsThieves	i dont know really :)	[18:49]
ThickAsThieves	i try to be worldly	[18:49]
ThickAsThieves	but i know i'm not	[18:49]
ThickAsThieves	i follow BBC and some Al Jazeera news	[18:50]
ThickAsThieves	but not much more than that	[18:50]
ThickAsThieves	and even that is WAY more than most people i know	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	i could carry on an intelligent conversation with maybe 5% of the egyptians in either cairo or luxor	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	turks in istanbul	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	russians in sevastopol	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	you name it	[18:50]
ThickAsThieves	i dont really understand why so many people dont want to think for themselves	[18:51]
ThickAsThieves	dont	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	the jools of twitter :	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	@MarkCalabria	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	Will be moderating panel here at Cato, March 13. Would a Financial Transaction Tax Affect Financial Market Activity? http://www.cato.org/events	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	@MarkCalabria Only in the sense that finance will move to Bitcoin faster.	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	@Mircea_Popescu Does the EU transaction tax proposal apply to Bitcoin transactions?	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	@MarkCalabria No, Bitcoin is structurally immune to imposed taxation.	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	le win.	[18:54]
ThickAsThieves	nice	[18:55]
error4733	;;ticker	[18:56]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.53318, Best ask: 34.79987, Bid-ask spread: 0.26669, Last trade: 34.80000, 24 hour volume: 67402.19246156, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.33373	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136209288816.jpg did i mention i love those pants ?	[18:57]
ThickAsThieves	is that horse or cow leather?	[18:59]
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mircea_popescu	it's prolly mare leather substituted for heifer.	[19:00]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.68499999 BTC [+]	[19:01]
ThickAsThieves	scams	[19:01]
ThickAsThieves	this coinlab ticker,	[19:03]
ThickAsThieves	shows negative time since	[19:03]
ThickAsThieves	someitmes	[19:03]
ThickAsThieves	they are time travelers	[19:03]
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ThickAsThieves	Spiers, responding to a question about whether he regretted Groupon going public with "I feel like the only reason you could be asking me that question is because you think I’m stupid or because you’re trying to see if I’m going to lie to you."	[19:07]
blu3gr1ffon	speaking of pants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l3nCqOWua4	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	lol	[19:08]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.fastcompany.com/3006439/where-are-they-now/exclusive-andrew-masons-last-interview-groupon-ceo	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	he blew his plural. reasonS.	[19:08]
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mircea_popescu	and for the record i totally called this on trilema, when they ipod	[19:08]
ThickAsThieves	i had every client asking me about groupon for a while	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	i was like NO	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	are you dumb?!	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	investing, heh.	[19:13]
ThickAsThieves	oh, i meant as an mktg solution	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	"We sat in the dining room at Madera, a Michelin 1-star rated restaurant in the Rosewood, a luxury hotel that’s partly owned by Stanford University."	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	lol 1 star better than no star!	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	why do us restaurants suck so bad.	[19:14]
ThickAsThieves	i think michelin stars work diff than hotel ratings	[19:14]
ThickAsThieves	i dont think you can get 5	[19:14]
ThickAsThieves	up to 3	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[19:15]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[19:16]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.75002, Best ask: 34.81892, Bid-ask spread: 0.06890, Last trade: 34.81895, 24 hour volume: 68172.45866000, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.35396	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	He softened a bit. “I think in the first phase of our company, we were a glorified mailing list. We had a completely unintelligent email that we sent out once a day and we had a human sales force that was going around and procuring the deals... "	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha o god.	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	why don't they say this sort of shit in autumn 2011 ?	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	why do they wait for it to be 2013 and everyone be pissed off ?	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	this is what so called CEOs should learn from me, seriously. say it dude.	[19:17]
jcpham	what is the lesson, i'm listening	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	say nigger. tell people to fuck off. say your company sucks and is a glorified mailing list. say whatever the hell is the case.	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	no matter how apparently impolite, impolitical, inappropriate or whatever the fuck.	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	just say it.	[19:17]
jcpham	i'm a big proponent of telling the truth	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	truth has nothing to do with it.	[19:18]
blu3gr1ffon	if you have shareholders, it is illegal to do anything that would lower the price of your company	[19:18]
ThickAsThieves	any company that is largely a sales team sucks	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	blu3gr1f1on fuck that.	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves coca cola is largely a sales team.	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	it can be done, marginally.	[19:18]
Chaang-Noi	new ATH	[19:18]
ThickAsThieves	exception to prove the rule?	[19:18]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu believes in falsifying histroy	[19:18]
thestringpuller	history*	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	i do "?	[19:19]
thestringpuller	How much of the full story does anyone person know?	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	that's exactly the motherfucking point.	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	say it. it doesn't have to be "the truth"	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	it just has to be what you see.	[19:19]
thestringpuller	Or what you want everyone else to see.	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	that only sets you up for the unpleasant situation of this guy	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	http://www.fastcompany.com/3006439/where-are-they-now/exclusive-andrew-masons-last-interview-groupon-ceo	[19:20]
jcpham	sorry i was distracted by imgur and now I'm watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtS2Ikk7A9I	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	you're better off ignoring what people want entirely.	[19:20]
jcpham	what were we talking about	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	jcpham buttseks	[19:20]
jcpham	i do not like this topic	[19:20]
thestringpuller	aha! thats why the bot shorted them. Poor guy.	[19:20]
Chaang-Noi	;;ticker	[19:21]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.81100, Best ask: 34.86999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05899, Last trade: 34.81100, 24 hour volume: 68642.46395107, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.89000, 24 hour vwap: 33.36688	[19:21]
jcpham	wtf is a groupon anyways	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	a glorified mailing list. literally.	[19:22]
Diablo-D3	jcpham: seriously?	[19:22]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: no	[19:22]
jcpham	didn't they go out of business	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	lol at this video	[19:22]
Diablo-D3	its basically a volume discount	[19:22]
jcpham	well i do not shop so idgaf	[19:22]
Diablo-D3	a lot of people collectively take up a discount	[19:22]
Diablo-D3	jcpham: not just items, services too	[19:22]
jcpham	broup buy coupons	[19:23]
jcpham	i get it	[19:23]
Diablo-D3	a lot of companies pulled out of groupon and refuses to honor groupon deals because groupon wouldn't set limits and shit	[19:23]
jcpham	i see	[19:23]
Diablo-D3	group on also had pretty fucked up internal financials	[19:23]
jcpham	groupon promotes consumerism	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 which is a polite way of saying they cooked the books for the ipo	[19:24]
jcpham	i'm violently anti-consumer	[19:24]
pigeons	it has a high carbon footprint	[19:24]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: basically	[19:24]
Diablo-D3	jcpham: consumerism isn't bad inherently	[19:24]
Diablo-D3	jcpham: like, I'll buy mass produced products…. they just have to be high quality ones	[19:24]
jcpham	when people band together in facebook hoardes to groupon their rent money?	[19:25]
Diablo-D3	like I just bought a $99 9" frying pan	[19:25]
jcpham	why the fuck would you pay 100$ for a pan	[19:25]
Diablo-D3	its an all copper frying pan with a thin layer of 18/10 stainless steel for the cooking surface	[19:25]
jcpham	i barely eat let alone spend money on retarded kitchen goods	[19:25]
Diablo-D3	they normally go for $200+	[19:25]
pigeons	a good pre-seasoned cast-iron skillet?	[19:25]
Diablo-D3	I took advantage of a pricing error	[19:25]
Diablo-D3	pigeons: a good one of those is $20 =P	[19:25]
Diablo-D3	fuck yeah lodge	[19:25]
jcpham	pigeons that's a hand me down	[19:25]
Diablo-D3	can't beat lodge cast iron	[19:26]
Diablo-D3	jcpham: its like this	[19:26]
pigeons	yeah that's what i have ;>	[19:26]
jcpham	grandma hooked us up with the cast iron	[19:26]
Diablo-D3	Im going to own one frying pan the rest of my life thats not cast iron	[19:26]
Diablo-D3	so why not buy the best?	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	pigeons i have some cast iron stuff. the problem with it is the womenz can barely lift the stuff. some sauces require lifting the pot with one hand while stirring with the other	[19:26]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: yeah, I wouldn't use cast iron for sauces	[19:26]
jcpham	i'm just poking at you Diablo-D3, if you want to spend money on copper pans and mine bitcoins on Nvidia	[19:26]
Diablo-D3	you use it for meats	[19:26]
pigeons	need stronger womerns	[19:26]
jcpham	be my guest	[19:26]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: get a 18/10 stainless pot	[19:27]
Diablo-D3	they're light and inexpensive	[19:27]
mircea_popescu	pigeons you fuck 24 inch bicep amazon pikewomen k ?	[19:27]
Diablo-D3	you can get one for like $50-75 depending on what size	[19:27]
jcpham	;;google pikewoman	[19:27]
gribble	Pepper Pike woman driving force behind Arts Summit in Cleveland ...: ; Pepper Pike woman overcomes multiple sclerosis and publishes ...: ; Northern Pike - Woman River Camp: (1 more message)	[19:27]
Chaang-Noi	you guys know too much about cooking stuff	[19:27]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[19:27]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.89769, Best ask: 34.89989, Bid-ask spread: 0.00220, Last trade: 34.89990, 24 hour volume: 68050.93419775, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.89990, 24 hour vwap: 33.36805	[19:27]
Diablo-D3	Chaang-Noi: cooking is a man's art	[19:27]
pigeons	not pikewomen, just healthy	[19:27]
thestringpuller	to 42	[19:27]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 often enough you make the sauce in the same skillet you cooked the meat for juice economy.	[19:27]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: it depends on the sauce	[19:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00637776 = 0.6378 BTC [+]	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	ofcourse	[19:28]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: like, I don't ike putting tomatoes in a cast iron pan	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	no acids.	[19:28]
Diablo-D3	or other acidic foods	[19:28]
Diablo-D3	but a white sauce or gravy? thats fine	[19:28]
jcpham	i can honestly say I'm never experienced the word juice followed by the word economy	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[19:28]
jcpham	i think i should take a nap or bleed out or something	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	jcpham you never lived having to save your juice to satisfy many hungry mouths either.	[19:28]
Diablo-D3	jcpham: he basically said "gravy without getting another pan dirty"	[19:28]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: HAH	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	good one huh.	[19:29]
Diablo-D3	I laughed out loud, Im a bad person. No wait, that other thing, Im awesome.	[19:29]
jcpham	i can't wait to drop "juice economy" on someone	[19:29]
jcpham	when they least expect it	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	then make them pay you bitcoin dust for it.	[19:29]
Diablo-D3	but yeah, I wouldn't have paid $200 for this	[19:30]
Diablo-D3	infact, I didn't even want to pay $100	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	7 bitcoin, who cares.	[19:30]
Diablo-D3	I was aiming for the $50s	[19:30]
Diablo-D3	but when something like that comes up	[19:30]
Diablo-D3	you snag it	[19:30]
Chaang-Noi	$100 for a pan?	[19:30]
Chaang-Noi	why it is good again?	[19:30]
Chaang-Noi	other than not being cast iron?	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	copper is good cause very conductive	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	medical steel coating cause resistant and healthy	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	(unlike teflon and crap)	[19:31]
Chaang-Noi	what do they make woks out of?	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	bronze i thinl	[19:32]
Chaang-Noi	i think i have a few of them	[19:32]
Diablo-D3	woks are often cast iron or annonized steel	[19:32]
Chaang-Noi	bronze good or bad?	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	lol inb4 new wok selling bitcoin business	[19:32]
Diablo-D3	bronze is fine, although you usually don't see it anymore	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 i think he's in asia neh ?	[19:32]
Diablo-D3	stainless steel is the best for the surface though	[19:32]
Chaang-Noi	im pretty sure they are mostly steel that we have	[19:32]
Diablo-D3	you can get pans that are pure 18/10 stainless, and they're good	[19:33]
Diablo-D3	copper bottoms are better	[19:33]
Chaang-Noi	fuck, im going to go check.. iv not been in the kitchen for months and im going in to see pots...	[19:33]
Diablo-D3	almost pure copper is 1%er kind of shit	[19:33]
Diablo-D3	there are pro chefs that don't use shit like this	[19:33]
Diablo-D3	Im like this	[19:34]
Diablo-D3	Im too poor to buy cheap shit	[19:35]
Diablo-D3	nanotube knows what Im talking about	[19:35]
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Chaang-Noi	i think the stuff we ahve is mostly steel	[19:35]
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Diablo-D3	Chaang-Noi: 18/10 steel is what a lot of people have	[19:36]
Chaang-Noi	why is steel bad again?	[19:36]
Diablo-D3	like, commercial grade shit is usually pure 18/10 or aluminum/18/10 bonded	[19:36]
Diablo-D3	Chaang-Noi: its not	[19:36]
Chaang-Noi	okay	[19:36]
Diablo-D3	the best cooking surface you can get is 18/10 stainless	[19:36]
Diablo-D3	its not the best _conductor_ though	[19:36]
Chaang-Noi	i see	[19:36]
Diablo-D3	thats why a lot of high grade 18/10 stainless pans have a copper layer inside	[19:37]
Diablo-D3	the only thing better is as much copper as possible with a thin layer of 18/10 as the cooking surface	[19:37]
Chaang-Noi	i dont think im picky enough id notice the differance	[19:37]
Diablo-D3	how often do you cook?	[19:37]
Chaang-Noi	cook?	[19:37]
Diablo-D3	unless you cook every single day and do hardcore shit, you'd never see it	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	omfg what is with the difficulty ?!	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	am i seeing this right, we're getting a downtrend retarget ?!	[19:38]
Chaang-Noi	if i cant go out of have some one cook for me i will eat bread from the bag and beer...	[19:38]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: gpis are being powered down	[19:38]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: its the calm before the storm	[19:38]
Chaang-Noi	of = or	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	omfg this is insanity	[19:38]
Diablo-D3	Chaang-Noi: yeah see, Im rejecting most pre made foods	[19:38]
Namworld	I guess a lot of the 25 terahash of GPUs are being removed	[19:38]
Chaang-Noi	so do i	[19:38]
Diablo-D3	Im doing it Real Man (™) style	[19:38]
Diablo-D3	holy shit	[19:39]
Chaang-Noi	we grow much of what we eat	[19:39]
Diablo-D3	osx can automatically spellcheck that	[19:39]
Chaang-Noi	and get local the rest, in the market	[19:39]
Chaang-Noi	but i neer cook it	[19:39]
Chaang-Noi	never	[19:39]
Diablo-D3	huh, why not?	[19:39]
mircea_popescu	why not ?	[19:40]
Chaang-Noi	i dont know, i never have. also spending more than 10 mins trying to get a meal is a waste of time	[19:40]
Chaang-Noi	my wife will spend 2 hours on a meal some times... fucking insane	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	its an artform	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	i hear you say that im thinking "this is like saying spending more than 2 minutes to get laid is a waste of time"	[19:41]
Chaang-Noi	who spends more than 2 hours to get laid?	[19:41]
Chaang-Noi	you know i live in thailand right?	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	i don't think i spent two hours actually cooking yet tho	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	i don't mean the part between meeting the girl and getting her naked.	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	i mean the part between her being naked and you being done	[19:42]
Chaang-Noi	oh, i do BBQ, but i dont really count that as cooking	[19:42]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: 2 minutes getting laid? wtf, must be an asian thing	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	more like rabbit thing	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	he prolly does it 49 times on an avg day	[19:42]
Diablo-D3	I couldn't get off in 2 minutes if I tried. Infact, I did. Didn't happen.	[19:42]
ThickAsThieves	;;estimate	[19:43]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 17471712.2288 based on data since last change \| 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days	[19:43]
ThickAsThieves	???	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	what the fucking fuck	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	are we forked ?!	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	we're forked. there's just no way.	[19:43]
Chaang-Noi	ahh sex time, yeah i have done over 2 hours before but not for a while.... 30 mins to an hour is fine...	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi most cooking takes about the same.	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	yest i made shrimp in white sauce with garlic + pasta, took like 25.	[19:43]
Chaang-Noi	yeah, but sex is so much better than food	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	hm	[19:44]
Chaang-Noi	if im goig to spend 1 hour doing something its going to be sex, not cooking:)	[19:44]
mircea_popescu	well obviously different, but both sensual delights.	[19:44]
Diablo-D3	hell, I wouldn't mind doing 8 hours on a meal	[19:44]
Diablo-D3	depends entirely what you're doing	[19:44]
ThickAsThieves	but really, whats going on with the diff	[19:44]
thestringpuller	;;bc,stats	[19:45]
gribble	Current Blocks: 223776 \| Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 \| Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 16 hours, 9 minutes, and 3 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 17471712.2288 \| Estimated Percent Change: 300.00477	[19:45]
thestringpuller	uh	[19:45]
thestringpuller	I'm getting June futures	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	wait	[19:45]
thestringpuller	LOL	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	17 mn ?!	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	holy sheit i read that as 1.7mn	[19:45]
Chaang-Noi	yeah asics on fire	[19:46]
Namworld	not sure we're forked... but looks like someone could do a 50% +	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	look at http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ tho	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	they have very diff numbers.	[19:46]
Chaang-Noi	that would suck, lol	[19:46]
Namworld	unless BFL is testing on top of ASICMINER	[19:46]
thestringpuller	bot isn't in sync...	[19:46]
mod6	yeah, they're showing 3m estimated	[19:46]
mod6	much different than the numbers gribble is giving	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	i wonder wtf.	[19:47]
ThickAsThieves	where does gibble pull from	[19:47]
ThickAsThieves	r'	[19:47]
mod6	even the diff change is saying 914 blocks, and gribble is saying 2015 blocks	[19:47]
mod6	err s/914/974	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	gribble wins tho, it's about 2k	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	retarget was earlier today	[19:48]
mod6	yeah, werid	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	maybe charts is off	[19:48]
mod6	;;bc,nethash	[19:48]
gribble	33000.822494620807	[19:48]
ThickAsThieves	http://bitcoindifficulty.com/	[19:48]
Chaang-Noi	http://bitcoin.sipa.be/	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	it's clearly up	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	charts is fucked up, must be	[19:50]
thestringpuller	is the estimate off?	[19:50]
thestringpuller	or is the estimate highest the farther away the next retarget it	[19:50]
thestringpuller	I think it's going to go down very quickly	[19:50]
thestringpuller	;;estimate	[19:50]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 17471712.2288 based on data since last change \| 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days	[19:50]
ThickAsThieves	ah	[19:51]
Chaang-Noi	wait three days i guess	[19:51]
ThickAsThieves	stringpuller wins	[19:51]
thestringpuller	good charts Chaang-Noi	[19:51]
Chaang-Noi	thanks	[19:51]
Chaang-Noi	that is what i use	[19:51]
Chaang-Noi	not mine btw	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	sipa is wuile	[19:52]
thestringpuller	wuile? wut dat meen?	[19:52]
mircea_popescu	Pieter Wuille aka sipa, https://github.com/sipa	[19:54]
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Chaang-Noi	;;bc,stats	[20:04]
gribble	Current Blocks: 223778 \| Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 \| Next Difficulty In: 2013 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 28 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 12559483.346 \| Estimated Percent Change: 187.54212	[20:04]
Chaang-Noi	12M now	[20:04]
blu3gr1ffon	who runs bitbet.us?	[20:14]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu does	[20:14]
*	kakobrekla hides	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:14]
blu3gr1ffon	cool, you made me .7btc mr. mircea_popescu	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	watch me get a cake for doing such a good job	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha win	[20:14]
kakobrekla	FUUUU	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	lmao totally.	[20:15]
Namworld	oh, bitbet report is in?	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	soonish	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	just as soon as im done cooking the motherfucking books	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	who knew accounting is this hard ;/	[20:15]
Namworld	It's more of being a PITA than being hard.	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	yes exactly.	[20:16]
ThickAsThieves	"This is not the apocalypse. It's just dumb," Mr. Obama told reporters	[20:17]
ThickAsThieves	re: sequester	[20:17]
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Bugpowder	mircea_popescu: What is the basis for your difficulty prediction?	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	whioch one ?	[20:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 8 @ 0.03401 = 0.2721 BTC [-]	[20:18]
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Bugpowder	"Bitcoin next difficulty looks like 17mn, a 300%ish increase. Possibly largest gap since the very early days."	[20:18]
ThickAsThieves	;;estimate	[20:19]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 5830327.65884 based on data since last change \| 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	it was the early estimate.	[20:20]
Bugpowder	that was like 15 minutes ago though	[20:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074307 = 3.7154 BTC [-]	[20:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00074306 = 4.867 BTC [-]	[20:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00074306 = 0.9288 BTC [-]	[20:21]
ThickAsThieves	it will change in 15 more minutes too	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	yes, early on estimates are noisy	[20:25]
mod6	i just got an email from my bank...they'd like me to donate some food to them.	[20:26]
mod6	o_O	[20:27]
kakobrekla	"people guarding the safes are hungry, f1"	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	mkay, first version of cooked books. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-february-2013-statement/	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	now let's see if we can get this shit past the auditors	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla what say you ?	[20:28]
kakobrekla	lemme see here	[20:29]
imsaguy	There's really not much to cook	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	imsaguy i gave up the weird cash-basis monstrosity i was doing last month	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	because if i kept up with it the report would have been literally uninteligible	[20:33]
imsaguy	just hire smickles already	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	much lighter version now	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	he's pregnant	[20:33]
imsaguy	jesus?	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	jesus had the flu	[20:34]
imsaguy	oh, I thought jesus was coming again	[20:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]	[20:37]
blu3gr1ffon	that's why smickles is pregnant	[20:38]
jcpham	http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-01-27/1233029874506.jpg	[20:44]
thestringpuller	;;seen smickles	[20:46]
gribble	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 36 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: pong	[20:46]
thestringpuller	smickles is super afk	[20:46]
thestringpuller	^ imsaguy	[20:47]
jcpham	i bet smickles killed someone	[20:48]
jcpham	and he's just laying low	[20:48]
jcpham	he's 182% gangster to the core, that smickles	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/678-march-magic-month.html#post10143	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	this is kinda funnay.	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	the person that i'm pretending to be pretending to be or somesuch found it for me. imagine, a girl actually read bfl forums!	[20:52]
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[\]	heh	[20:54]
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jurov	bitbet referrals need whole addy or firstbits are okay?	[20:54]
[\]	I'm gonna make a bunch of claims, but then turn around and make a disclaimer that the claims could be false	[20:54]
kakobrekla	whole addy	[20:55]
[\]	He's too busy to do his own research but not too busy to make the initial claim	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	moreover... he disclaims whether bitbet is in fact owned by me or not	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	but he knows for a fact i'm a sad panda	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	because you see, there's some girl that keeps beating up on him on the interwebs	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	totally legit.	[20:55]
[\]	"one more day, I promise"	[20:56]
[\]	cross my heart, hope to die.	[20:56]
[\]	ok fine, I hope you die.	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	;;google one more day	[20:57]
gribble	Spider-Man: One More Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; One More Day by Diamond Rio - The Last Time - YouTube: ; One More Day Lyrics - Diamond Rio:	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	wss this cheezy 90s song	[20:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00611 = 0.0917 BTC [-]	[20:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [-]	[20:57]
[\]	I'll take your word for it, panda.	[20:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00609 = 0.609 BTC [-]	[20:57]
[\]	oh wait, inaba said you're a liar	[20:57]
[\]	and mommy said I can't talk to liars.	[20:57]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.7 = 10.2 BTC [-]	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	ya except after mpoe-pr walked all over his face on btctalk he has to say it in blfcloset	[20:58]
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[\]	its easier to make up the rules in your own sandbox	[20:59]
mircea_popescu	"This person seams pretty sure of him self to bet so much money that we wont be seeing	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	A shipment before march, this has me a little worried."	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	very cute tho.	[21:01]
[\]	are there april bets yet?	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	yeah there's one like 60 btc	[21:02]
[\]	how about may or june?	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	not yet those.	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	avalon too	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/	[21:02]
[\]	I wouldn't take the avalon	[21:02]
mircea_popescu	10:13 and 24:33 respectvely	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	apparently ppl think avalon has more of a shot ?!	[21:03]
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mircea_popescu	in any case this makes me realise, bet arbitraging is now possible. yes one no the other or we	[21:03]
[\]	avalon has at least proven a device	[21:03]
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[\]	even if not shipping en masse	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	that is a point.	[21:03]
[\]	what did kanoi hack on?	[21:04]
[\]	they shipped him to bfl to develop software, but what did he test with?	[21:04]
FonziSource	the avalon is not the quality i would expect	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	wasn't he on asicminers ?	[21:04]
FonziSource	but i would certainly rock the hashes	[21:04]
pigeons	damint fonzi, pick a nick	[21:05]
[\]	FonziSource: I'd expect there to be revisions between what Jeff got and what everyone else will receive	[21:05]
FonziSource	for avalon? yeah	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	prolly.	[21:05]
FonziSource	maybe a more poished product	[21:05]
FonziSource	I've read about the bugs and such	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	my guess would be thatm ost actual units would struggle to reach the prototype performance	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	it's the chinese way after all. soviet import.	[21:06]
FonziSource	but if the only bug is that it hangs every so x	[21:06]
[\]	that's not a bug	[21:06]
FonziSource	i'd reboot it prior to x and have a coke and a smile too	[21:06]
[\]	thats a feature	[21:06]
[\]	the windows miners still like to freak out after 5 days	[21:06]
[\]	so its not much different	[21:06]
[\]	schedule the reboot and be done	[21:06]
FonziSource	mine is rock-steady mostly yo	[21:06]
FonziSource	i just have the one	[21:07]
[\]	it is a bug in cgminer	[21:07]
[\]	don't tell them that tho	[21:07]
[\]	they'll blame windows	[21:07]
FonziSource	but I've got a cgminer running now since november on linux	[21:07]
FonziSource	non-stop	[21:07]
[\]	but basically, there were a few versions of cgminer that run for weeks	[21:07]
[\]	the new versions don't anymore	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	upgrade!	[21:07]
[\]	there's a leak somewhere :D	[21:07]
[\]	mircea_popescu: the whole stratum thing is forcing upgrades	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	i guess so	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	from what i gather the stratum is kinda unavoidable tho	[21:08]
FonziSource	cgminer version 2.4.0 - Started: [November 29, 2012, 12:47 pm] Rig: leviathan	[21:08]
FonziSource	(avg): 1040.85 Mh/s \| Q:1714540 A:1896580 R:19689 HW:0 U:14.31/m ST:2258 DW:414493 NB:15431 LW:4265417 GF:292 RF:658	[21:08]
FonziSource	killing it	[21:08]
pigeons	no you can avoid if if you use Luke-Jr's bfgnet	[21:09]
pigeons	what's it called Luke-Jr	[21:09]
FonziSource	GBT	[21:09]
FonziSource	iirc	[21:09]
FonziSource	or is that a street drug	[21:09]
mircea_popescu	big fag net ?	[21:09]
imsaguy	great big tatas	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/41/network-difficulty-under-3-75-million/	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	oddly enough this is almost even money.	[21:10]
Luke-Jr	pigeons: I don't maintain BFGMiner old versions very long either	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	;;bc,diff	[21:10]
gribble	4367876.0008422	[21:10]
FonziSource	;;bc,stats	[21:10]
gribble	Current Blocks: 223785 \| Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 \| Next Difficulty In: 2006 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 58 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 5112621.65753 \| Estimated Percent Change: 17.05052	[21:11]
Luke-Jr	thought [\] should know better, and use it since it's got less bugs :P	[21:11]
FonziSource	20 percent yesterday	[21:11]
FonziSource	so how much did the diff increase	[21:11]
pigeons	doesnt eligius support another overlay protocol in addition to stratum as an alternative?	[21:11]
FonziSource	the last estimate i saw was 20%	[21:11]
Luke-Jr	pigeons: Eligius supports standard GBT of course	[21:11]
pigeons	that's what i was looking for	[21:11]
pigeons	the name of gbt as an alternative to stratum	[21:11]
pigeons	gay bisexual lesbian,	[21:12]
pigeons	err transgender	[21:12]
FonziSource	gay bisexual thespian	[21:12]
Diablo-D3	oh my~	[21:12]
pigeons	gbt miner	[21:12]
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pigeons	bitpride.com	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	gluttonous belching thracian why not	[21:12]
FonziSource	definitely bitpride	[21:12]
pigeons	https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0023	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	ackageShell provides an environment for software packages to run in.	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	from bitpride.com	[21:14]
pigeons	chef don't judge	[21:15]
topace	has sdice dividend been announced yet ?	[21:15]
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kakobrekla	wtf is this free money here	[21:18]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/bet/41/network-difficulty-under-3-75-million/	[21:18]
kakobrekla	i mean, was.	[21:19]
kakobrekla	silly ppl.	[21:19]
kakobrekla	ah i see im late to the party, was this was already beaten moments ago	[21:20]
kakobrekla	nevermind me	[21:20]
midnightmagic	gbt is really an unfortunate name.	[21:20]
midnightmagic	Hey wasn't there a bet that Josh (from BFL) did about BFL delivery times not that long ago?	[21:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0007499 = 3.7495 BTC [+]	[21:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5262 @ 0.00074991 = 3.946 BTC [+]	[21:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075999 = 3.8 BTC [+]	[21:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21238 @ 0.00076 = 16.1409 BTC [+]	[21:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]	[21:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00610824 = 0.6108 BTC [-]	[21:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00610823 = 5.4974 BTC [-]	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla especially as bet was made after the new diff lol	[21:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 138 @ 0.006 = 0.828 BTC [-]	[21:26]
kakobrekla	:)	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic if you mean the bitbet thing it closed recently.	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	topace not yet	[21:28]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: It was pretty big wasn't it?	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	1.6k	[21:29]
Bugpowder	13.33k	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/	[21:29]
midnightmagic	jesus, 1.7k.	[21:30]
topace	mircea_popescu: doh i was hoping it would come today so i coud not work this weekend :p	[21:30]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: Oh, does the site not escrow bets?	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	topace possibly might	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic the site itself is the escrow.	[21:31]
jurov	kakobrekla, that 3-75-million bet wasn't very visible. i remember myself thinking about it, but then it scrolled down into oblivion	[21:31]
kakobrekla	myeah	[21:33]
kakobrekla	bbl gotta go	[21:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	i guess after this march 1st bfl will stand for butteryfly lols	[21:34]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00601 BTC [-]	[21:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]	[21:39]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: What the hell is that last comment bitching at you then..?! When one bets, they actually send BTC to the site right? Who mediates ambiguous bets?	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	tghe site. which last comment ?	[21:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-]	[21:40]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: Scroll way down to the "I am done using this site."	[21:40]
midnightmagic	http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	o o. yeah, i dunno. person got bored or w/e	[21:40]
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mircea_popescu	if you grep the log there was some wtfing about it earlier	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	"The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) has filed Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security, in response to a failure by the agency to release any documents pertaining to the “Emergency Wireless Protocols,” (Standard Operating Procedure 303 or “SOP 303″)."	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	the lol is strong with this one. this sop 303 thing is supposedly the procedure of how to turn off internets.	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	im sure it exists. especially if called "standard".	[21:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.006 = 0.03 BTC [-]	[21:42]
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midnightmagic	Doesn't SOP usually imply something that's done all the time?	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	in real world or in obamaworld ?	[21:42]
midnightmagic	Uh.	[21:42]
midnightmagic	Real world I guess!	[21:43]
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mircea_popescu	then yes.	[21:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]	[21:43]
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mircea_popescu	in obamaworld things that were never done and can't in principle be done apparently qualify.	[21:43]
midnightmagic	Lame.	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	don't worry, he's creating jobs too	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	that's prolly sop 69	[21:44]
midnightmagic	gobble gobble	[21:44]
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midnightmagic	Holy fuck I make good coffee..	[21:44]
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jurov	There will be legal action resulting in injuction against or outright ban of sale of Google Glasses (or equivalent Google product) country-wide or state-wide in any country or US state, effective before 1st January 2014. Cited reason may be privacy concerns, patent violation or anything other.	[21:45]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: Seriously man. I make fucking awesome coffee.	[21:45]
jurov	is such bet preliminary acceptable?	[21:45]
jurov	kakobrekla ^^^	[21:46]
midnightmagic	jurov: Hey.	[21:47]
midnightmagic	jurov: Guess what.	[21:47]
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jurov	what? they're already banned somewhere?	[21:48]
midnightmagic	jurov: No. I make awesome coffee.	[21:48]
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jurov	midnightmagic enjoy. i'll keep gulping here this instant shit with stevia.	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic wd.	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	jurov i think so	[21:51]
jurov	well it's too broad scope... maybe they'll get banned in baluchistan and we won't know it	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	you said us state neh ?	[21:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 299 @ 0.01 = 2.99 BTC [+]	[21:54]
jurov	i said us state or anywhere else	[21:54]
jurov	maybe limit it to US state or EU country	[21:54]
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mircea_popescu	o yeah	[21:56]
jurov	submitted. we'll see.	[21:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [-]	[21:58]
jurov	;;ticker	[22:03]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 34.48000, Best ask: 34.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 34.48001, 24 hour volume: 61642.33337937, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 33.38684	[22:03]
jurov	34.9 ftw	[22:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6835 BTC [-]	[22:15]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[22:22]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Mar 1 04:46:01 2013	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	we're breaking 35 arent we	[22:22]
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SudsyForce	http://i.imgur.com/81Jun1Q.jpg	[22:26]
SudsyForce	sfw	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	only have one weapon = moustache ?	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_rage_(law) also, lol.	[22:28]
SudsyForce	written, produced, and directed by Chris Robinson	[22:29]
SudsyForce	I wonder is Chris is angry	[22:29]
SudsyForce	;;google chris robinson black rage	[22:29]
gribble	Black Rage (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Amazon.com: Black Rage [VHS]: Chris Robinson, Ted Cassidy ...: ; Charcoal Black (1972) - IMDb:	[22:29]
SudsyForce	Two slave brothers, one black, one an albino, discover a treasure map which is taken from them by their foreman. They take it back but are pursued by the foreman. Originally, the foreman seeks the aid of two bounty hunters who pursue the protagonists throughout the film. At the end, both the foreman and the bounty hunters catch up with the two escaped slaves, and the foreman has a change of heart, helping to kill the bounty hunters.	[22:30]
thestringpuller	!ticker m S.MPOE	[22:33]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075292 / 0.00076 (264833 shares, 199.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069845 / 0.00078 (17743462 shares, 12,393.01 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067298 / 0.00078 (67591125 shares, 45,487.52 BTC)	[22:33]
thestringpuller	mpex has almost his 0.0008 BTC	[22:34]
mircea_popescu	SudsyForce course irl it works more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Ferguson_(convict)	[22:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2241 @ 0.006 = 13.446 BTC [-]	[22:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4710 @ 0.00075142 = 3.5392 BTC [-]	[22:57]
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mircea_popescu	https://blockchain.info/hub-nodes	[22:58]
mircea_popescu	the us gets a honorable 4th position.	[22:58]
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fydel	MR mircea_popescu: Is there a way to see the exact trade volumes of the mpex stocks? The graphs on mpex.com are nice but I would like to have more infos, Sir.	[23:11]
kakobrekla	http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/	[23:13]
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mircea_popescu	fydel well, there's the stuff in http://mpex.co/faq.html#11	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.mpoe	[23:19]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.0007529 / 0.00076 (269543 shares, 202.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069867 / 0.00078 (17683122 shares, 12,354.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067298 / 0.00078 (67573650 shares, 45,476.39 BTC)	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	the 30 day volume comes from the json there for instance	[23:19]
fydel	mircea_popescu: thank you, sir	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	yw	[23:19]
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fydel	kakobrekla: thank you,,this looks nice	[23:26]
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thestringpuller	;;seen smickles	[23:45]
gribble	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: pong	[23:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 45 @ 0.35 = 15.75 BTC [+]	[23:55]
assbot	brb	[23:56]
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