Forum logs for 01 Apr 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
kakobrekla O_o [00:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [-] [00:18]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 24 @ 0.378 = 9.072 BTC [-] [00:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00062903 = 9.5613 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.772 = 2.316 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77495 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77695 BTC [+] [00:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.777 = 4.662 BTC [+] [00:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-] [00:38]
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thestringpuller Did I just see someone dump MPOE stock then put it into ASICMINER...? [00:43]
ThickAsThieves how dare they [00:44]
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thestringpuller it is too high [00:48]
thestringpuller What about KLIM? [00:48]
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thestringpuller !ticker h KLIM [00:48]
assbot Your actions are useless. [00:48]
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thestringpuller !ticker h KCIM [00:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK:KCIM] 1D: 1.00000100 / 1.09894165 / 1.20900000 (17 shares, 18.68200800 BTC), 7D: 0.99500000 / 1.10475013 / 1.25000000 (60 shares, 66.28500800 BTC), 30D: 0.95500000 / 1.13694272 / 1.48000000 (161 shares, 183.04777800 BTC) [00:49]
thestringpuller !ticker h HIM [00:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.00000000 / 2.00872727 / 2.08000000 (55 shares, 110.48000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.79371529 / 2.08000000 (242 shares, 434.07910099 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.77995476 / 2.08000000 (757 shares, 1347.42575265 BTC) [00:49]
jurov thestringpuller: if they managed to teleport btcs from mpex to btct [00:49]
thestringpuller !ticker m S.MPOE [00:50]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062903 / 0.00065976 / 0.00068374 (620725 shares, 409.54 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.00065759 / 0.00068374 (2521551 shares, 1,658.15 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00072825 / 0.00078628 (18137686 shares, 13,208.90 BTC) [00:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0025 BTC [-] [00:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.00204 = 0.0163 BTC [-] [00:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00203 BTC [-] [00:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.00203 = 0.0041 BTC [-] [00:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 88 @ 0.002012 = 0.1771 BTC [-] [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.0006321 = 7.6168 BTC [+] [00:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00063663 = 0.573 BTC [+] [00:56]
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pizzaman1337 ;;asks 99.999 [01:00]
gribble There are currently 24624.678 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 2377593.73016 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds [01:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-] [01:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062903 = 6.2588 BTC [-] [01:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] [01:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1599 = 0.4797 BTC [+] [01:10]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+] [01:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+] [01:25]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+] [01:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+] [01:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] [01:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 17 @ 0.2 = 3.4 BTC [+] [01:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+] [01:26]
KRS1 pizzaman what to you think about the poss of a sell at $99-$100 [01:27]
pizzaman1337 should hit that sooner or later [01:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 150 @ 0.002012 = 0.3018 BTC [-] [01:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2699 = 1.3495 BTC [+] [01:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.27999 BTC [+] [01:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [+] [01:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7789 BTC [+] [01:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00419786 = 2.0989 BTC [+] [01:37]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7789 = 1.5578 BTC [+] [01:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.444 = 1.332 BTC [+] [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00419787 = 4.1979 BTC [+] [01:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00419788 = 5.6671 BTC [+] [01:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1915 @ 0.00062903 = 1.2046 BTC [-] [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4062 @ 0.00062878 = 2.5541 BTC [-] [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062244 = 4.3882 BTC [-] [01:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.443 = 1.329 BTC [-] [01:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] [02:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00060871 = 4.5653 BTC [-] [02:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-] [02:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.58 = 9.28 BTC [-] [02:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [+] [02:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [+] [02:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 38 @ 0.61 = 23.18 BTC [+] [02:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77891 BTC [+] [02:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8810 @ 0.00060101 = 5.2949 BTC [-] [02:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7756 @ 0.00060871 = 4.7212 BTC [+] [03:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 750 @ 0.002012 = 1.509 BTC [-] [03:24]
MJR_III hey guys [03:25]
MJR_III anyone around? [03:25]
* smickles is coding [03:26]
MJR_III smickles: perfect [03:26]
bitesak ;;ticker [03:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.01000, Best ask: 93.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.33999, Last trade: 93.01000, 24 hour volume: 21283.09036066, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.70860 [03:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.446 = 2.23 BTC [+] [03:29]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.779999 BTC [+] [03:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 150 @ 0.0019999 = 0.3 BTC [+] [03:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 9850 @ 0.00201395 = 19.8374 BTC [+] [03:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00060871 = 20.5744 BTC [+] [03:52]
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MJR_III smickles: have you played around with socket.io? [03:53]
thestringpuller socket.io is lame [03:54]
MJR_III tell me about it [03:55]
thestringpuller !ticker H HIM [03:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.00000000 / 2.00872727 / 2.08000000 (55 shares, 110.48000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.79371529 / 2.08000000 (242 shares, 434.07910099 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.77995476 / 2.08000000 (757 shares, 1347.42575265 BTC) [03:55]
MJR_III i'm trying to get a data feed from bitfloor [03:55]
thestringpuller word [03:55]
thestringpuller does socket.io work with redis.io ? [03:55]
MJR_III but it's like socket.io guys never though "what if he wants to get info from a website he doesn't host?" [03:55]
MJR_III or what if he isn't using a browser [03:56]
MJR_III haven't used redis [03:58]
MJR_III and i'm not sure [03:58]
MJR_III i'll be back in a little bit [03:58]
splnkr http://try.redis.io/ [03:58]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P086T] 14 @ 0.12294187 = 1.7212 BTC [03:58]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P092T] 13 @ 0.15861729 = 2.062 BTC [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P089T] 14 @ 0.14008074 = 1.9611 BTC [03:59]
thestringpuller is that soebot? [03:59]
smickles ;;calc 89/1.14 [04:00]
gribble 78.0701754386 [04:00]
smickles yup [04:00]
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smickles MJR_III: not much socket.io for me [04:00]
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MJR_III socket.io is really nothing like redis.io... [04:01]
MJR_III redis is a database, socket.io is more of a message passing interface/connection media [04:01]
MJR_III its trying to implement tcp sockets into a client/server model [04:01]
MJR_III using varius connection level media such as websockets etc [04:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.58 = 2.9 BTC [-] [04:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.575 BTC [-] [04:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [-] [04:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5616 BTC [-] [04:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-] [04:08]
MJR_III so anyway, the problem is that it's meant for browsers and javascript [04:11]
MJR_III but i need applications to be able to talk to it [04:12]
thestringpuller dude just use curl scripts and stop whining [04:12]
thestringpuller done. problem solved. [04:12]
MJR_III obviously you don't know what a websocket is [04:12]
MJR_III its a streaming data feed [04:12]
MJR_III curl would be for requests [04:12]
MJR_III or wget [04:12]
MJR_III the whole point of it is that you only request once [04:13]
thestringpuller I'm trollin' dude that's all I do. I'm no help. [04:13]
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MJR_III and then you have a connection [04:13]
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MJR_III hehehe, all good [04:13]
MJR_III it lowers overhead though [04:13]
MJR_III since you aren't sending a ton of requests all the time [04:13]
thestringpuller I've never worked on an application that requires a persistent connection [04:14]
MJR_III a market data feed? [04:14]
MJR_III for example, you can keep requesting all the market data...or their server can push any new orders out to you [04:15]
MJR_III so its real time [04:15]
MJR_III no refresh [04:15]
thestringpuller Nope. I wanted to do HFT Algo's so maybe one day I will do real time. But I've never worked on anything realtime [04:15]
thestringpuller except video games which make no monies [04:15]
MJR_III for HFT you need real time [04:15]
thestringpuller i kno [04:16]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i summon thee [04:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00401 BTC [-] [04:19]
thestringpuller $oix [04:22]
thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX [04:23]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 81.34220013 / 93.14221262 / 140.1904003 (4085 shares, 2,444.98 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [04:23]
thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX [04:26]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 81.34220013 / 93.14221262 / 140.1904003 (4085 shares, 2,444.98 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [04:26]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [04:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.38000, Best ask: 93.40001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02001, Last trade: 93.40001, 24 hour volume: 20690.03883381, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 93.80000, 24 hour vwap: 92.74693 [04:26]
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mircea_popescu what's new [04:29]
pgp game of thrones - that's what's new... [04:30]
mircea_popescu like, DC with nuclear lauch capability on site :) << settle the spamhouse asshats on the spot [04:31]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: doesn't watch that stuff [04:31]
MJR_III ah nice, GoT started [04:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.003099 = 0.3099 BTC [+] [04:33]
mircea_popescu im playing path of exile. [04:33]
mircea_popescu deposits flushed too [04:35]
mircea_popescu http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/01/technology/russia-begins-selectively-blocking-internet-content.html [04:38]
mircea_popescu wtf is all this suicide bullshit. [04:38]
mircea_popescu people want to kill themselves, their business. [04:38]
benkay and yet the world continues to function, albeit imperfectly [04:39]
thestringpuller benkay , mah nigga [04:39]
* benkay is now known as icyhot [04:40]
icyhot wtf colloquy [04:40]
icyhot what's up, strings. [04:40]
thestringpuller is that how you transform into gangsta version [04:40]
icyhot i'm demoing a new handle [04:40]
icyhot i've used benkay since [04:40]
icyhot middle school? [04:40]
icyhot before. [04:40]
mircea_popescu how long ago is that ? [04:41]
icyhot i'm 25 now. [04:41]
icyhot i think that's the question you're really interested in answering. [04:41]
mircea_popescu cool :p [04:42]
icyhot how old are you, mircea? [04:42]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu what was your pop's name? [04:43]
pgp icyhot... related, but different.. works... [04:43]
thestringpuller Was he Mr. Popescu? [04:43]
mircea_popescu actually mircea [04:43]
mircea_popescu my grandfather too [04:43]
mircea_popescu and im thirtysomething [04:44]
icyhot do your people reverse the firstname lastname thing? [04:44]
icyhot family/personal? [04:44]
mircea_popescu sometimes [04:44]
mircea_popescu the proper form (ie, popescu mircea) is used in formal context. like for instance if you sue somebody. [04:45]
mircea_popescu the informal (ie, english style) is used otherwise [04:45]
icyhot then you're typically addressed as 'mircea'? [04:46]
mircea_popescu not rly. [04:46]
icyhot i don't know how seriously you take this autocratic thing. i halfway imagine you might have people kissing the pavement behind you. [04:47]
mircea_popescu sometimes. [04:47]
icyhot see? [04:47]
mircea_popescu the girls usually call me master. [04:47]
pgp lol [04:47]
mircea_popescu no, i'm like serious and everything. [04:47]
icyhot like serious [04:48]
icyhot more like 14 [04:48]
icyhot and female [04:48]
icyhot ;) [04:48]
mircea_popescu no u [04:49]
icyhot i kid, i kid. [04:51]
mircea_popescu "A lot of software can be about egos. While the Bitcoin architecture is genius the code itself is merely adequate." [04:51]
mircea_popescu heh. [04:51]
icyhot where printed? [04:51]
dub oh shit, baller on deck [04:51]
dub howz the stuntin icyhot [04:52]
icyhot stuntin hard [04:52]
icyhot chillin on the po'ch wiv mah forty and shorty and pit bull [04:52]
icyhot drank heavily this weekend. everyone's recovering. [04:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00060101 = 4.0568 BTC [-] [04:57]
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mircea_popescu "But involving with people who write on their website that they want to kill all idiots, is dangerous for me. Sorry." [04:59]
mircea_popescu what, I wrote that ?! [04:59]
icyhot i think it's more of an implication you make constantly. [04:59]
mircea_popescu you know... i think if anyone in this world can't be suspected of holding back from what they mean to say it'd be me. [05:01]
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icyhot also man to the rest of the world there isn't a whole lot of difference between calling people 'nigger' and saying that you want to kill all of the idiots. [05:05]
mircea_popescu !? [05:05]
icyhot parsing your pennings can be challenging for mere mortals; imagine how confusing they must be to the rest of the internet. [05:06]
mircea_popescu lol ok [05:06]
mircea_popescu at least it ain't boring. [05:06]
icyhot i would prefer boring. [05:06]
mircea_popescu why ? [05:06]
icyhot drama is bad for business. [05:06]
icyhot distracting. [05:07]
mircea_popescu well for everyone's peace of mind i don't propose, contemplate or intend to kill anyone. [05:07]
Bugpowder now time for VIKINGS! [05:07]
mircea_popescu seems a little silly. [05:07]
icyhot everything in my life is silly. [05:08]
icyhot i have entirely lost perspective. [05:08]
icyhot "what do you do?" [05:08]
dub what about if it was just yo uand Taaki on the roof with nobody looking? [05:08]
dub hard to beat that temptation [05:08]
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mircea_popescu im not tempted. [05:08]
MJR_III best linux IRC app? [05:08]
icyhot irssi, mjr_III [05:09]
mircea_popescu for one if i particularly wanted to i could probably create the event, what's it take, a few quid. [05:09]
mircea_popescu no xchat. [05:09]
MJR_III cool thx [05:09]
icyhot aside: moving from os x to ubuntu, i actually found myself more productive in the terminal [05:09]
dub so bitcoin hit nightly news here this week [05:10]
dub they showed amir and bruce wagner [05:10]
dub I fucking raged [05:11]
mircea_popescu lol [05:11]
mircea_popescu where are you, turkmenistan ? [05:11]
dub outer [05:11]
mircea_popescu outer turkmenistan ? [05:11]
dub yes [05:11]
mircea_popescu well trade your tv for a camel [05:11]
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mircea_popescu wait. bruce wagner, the tv star ? [05:12]
dub yeah the boyloving youtube sensation [05:12]
mircea_popescu wow i thought he's gone [05:12]
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mircea_popescu high tide brings all the scum back to shore eh [05:13]
MJR_3 hi all [05:13]
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MJR_3 xchat is really nice [05:13]
MJR_3 i like the layout, thanks mircea_popescu [05:13]
KRS1 hey there [05:13]
dub i think it was an ancient clip but this is the press bitcoin has [05:13]
mircea_popescu Help us reach our goal! Bitcoinstore must sell $850,000 by June, 30 to keep its competitive prices. $0 reached of $850,000 [05:13]
KRS1 i know that name [05:13]
mircea_popescu that seems promising [05:13]
[\] that's just stupid [05:13]
[\] if you have to beg people to shop, then it isn't serving the original purpose [05:14]
Bugpowder i knew he would get an extention [05:14]
mircea_popescu [\] i would hope my sarcasm is not squandered. [05:14]
[\] I'm 12 and what is this? [05:15]
smickles $avg [05:15]
mpexbot smickles: 92.70 [05:15]
smickles ;;calc 68/92.7 [05:15]
gribble 0.733549083064 [05:15]
Bugpowder I think it will hit 850k by july 1 [05:15]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder from 0 ? [05:15]
Bugpowder they did 450 basically this month [05:15]
KRS1 I can't find ASIC mining rigs on bitcoinstore [05:16]
mircea_popescu look under cupcakes. [05:16]
mircea_popescu "BOOM. While you've been out poppin' bottles with models, the Payward team has been slaving away at a proper exchange for arbitrary cyborg-alien currencies of the future, and bitcoin." [05:16]
mircea_popescu what the fuck srslty. [05:16]
MJR_3 url please [05:18]
icyhot payward.com [05:18]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159974.0 [05:18]
MJR_3 seems legit [05:19]
MJR_3 :-| [05:19]
icyhot tee hee [05:20]
icyhot filled with lorem ipsum. [05:20]
icyhot pretty charts though. [05:20]
ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [05:20]
gribble Current Blocks: 229025 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 798 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 13 hours, 26 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7456274.96836 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.35706 [05:21]
KRS1 lol [05:21]
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MJR_3 he does have confidence [05:22]
MJR_3 you gotta give em that [05:22]
Bugpowder competence >> confidence [05:22]
MJR_3 it was a joke [05:23]
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MJR_3 that whole forum post was like LOL WTF, dude, [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 60 @ 0.1375 = 8.25 BTC [+] [05:23]
MJR_3 we'll see [05:23]
icyhot the whole bitcoin economy is like LOL WTF dude [05:23]
MJR_3 the more the merrier [05:23]
MJR_3 hehehe [05:23]
MJR_3 well...it kinda seemed like "our focus group tells us that these "memes" have the highest probablity of going "viral" [05:24]
MJR_3 like over the top [05:24]
MJR_3 but eh, w/e [05:24]
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MJR_3 does anyone know of a simple socket.io console app? [05:25]
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mircea_popescu at least jesse powell is not *completely* out of the financial loop [05:25]
MJR_3 so wait, is kraken and payward two separate things? [05:26]
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mircea_popescu looks like a dba sort of thing [05:27]
icyhot dba? [05:27]
MJR_3 better than most out there now [05:27]
MJR_3 but we'll see how the matching engine is [05:28]
MJR_3 at least they put a level 2 data book together in the right order [05:28]
mircea_popescu anyway, i'm out. have a ball all. [05:30]
ThickAsThieves <@assbot> [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 60 @ 0.1375 = 8.25 BTC [+] [05:31]
KRS1 bye [05:32]
MJR_3 later [05:33]
MJR_3 damn it feels good to be back on linux [05:33]
KRS1 awww yeah [05:33]
MJR_3 KRS1, you know anything about websockets (specifically socket.io)? [05:34]
KRS1 not really im a sysadmin but i know what socket.io is [05:34]
MJR_3 yeah [05:34]
MJR_3 its tough [05:34]
KRS1 looking to interface with mtgox? [05:34]
MJR_3 these web libraries keep changing [05:34]
MJR_3 bitfloor actually [05:34]
KRS1 i'd lose my mind if i was a web developer [05:34]
MJR_3 its fun cuz of how quickly you can develop [05:35]
KRS1 but i have to support all the crap they do where I work [05:35]
MJR_3 but sucks cuz of how quickly you can develop [05:35]
KRS1 yeah..wasnt always like that [05:35]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ [14:43]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2013 [14:43]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.50090, Best ask: 94.69989, Bid-ask spread: 0.19899, Last trade: 94.50090, 24 hour volume: 27511.68644631, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 94.84000, 24 hour vwap: 93.17817 [14:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.749999 = 2.25 BTC [+] [14:46]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.00402 = 0.0764 BTC [-] [14:47]
pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [14:47]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.50091, Best ask: 95.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49909, Last trade: 94.50091, 24 hour volume: 29869.63042979, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 95.00000, 24 hour vwap: 93.31910 [14:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.004015 = 0.2088 BTC [-] [14:48]
kakobrekla rally [14:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.004 = 0.3 BTC [-] [14:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.749999 BTC [+] [14:49]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [15:02]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.31000, Best ask: 96.44638, Bid-ask spread: 0.13638, Last trade: 96.44638, 24 hour volume: 32642.44526573, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 96.75001, 24 hour vwap: 93.54613 [15:02]
kakobrekla 97 [15:04]
pizzaman1337 I guess everyone's wire transfers are clearing? [15:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2899 BTC [+] [15:05]
mircea_popescu must be hehe [15:05]
kakobrekla its holiday here [15:06]
kakobrekla no transfers to bitstamp today [15:06]
kakobrekla dunno for the rest of yurop [15:06]
kakobrekla they will be fucked tomorrow [15:07]
kakobrekla 98 [15:07]
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pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [15:07]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.97000, Best ask: 98.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 98.00000, 24 hour volume: 32642.44526573, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 96.75001, 24 hour vwap: 93.54613 [15:07]
kakobrekla ticker is late [15:07]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P200T] 1000 @ 1.14429181 = 1144.2918 BTC [-] [15:07]
kakobrekla i looking at socket via moody [15:07]
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pizzaman1337 ;;ticker --websocket [15:07]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message) [15:07]
mircea_popescu lol ouch [15:07]
pizzaman1337 :P [15:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.22316625 = 223.1663 BTC [+] [15:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 1000 @ 0.23774495 = 237.745 BTC [15:08]
mircea_popescu !ticker m ^oix [15:09]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 86.04499804 / 97.29593865 / 133.95274683 (7085 shares, 4,050.18 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [15:09]
mircea_popescu Average Transaction 59.98743815 BTC [15:10]
KRS1 when to sell? 100 might trigger -10%? [15:10]
mircea_popescu dude srlsy... i gotta raise the reg fee. [15:10]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell bugpowder : here's an idea : make hashing processors out of dragonfly brains. [15:15]
gribble The operation succeeded. [15:15]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 40 @ 0.23959342 = 9.5837 BTC [+] [15:16]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [15:17]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 97.50000, Best ask: 97.79855, Bid-ask spread: 0.29855, Last trade: 97.79855, 24 hour volume: 35881.21447432, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 98.10000, 24 hour vwap: 93.88708 [15:17]
ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [15:17]
gribble Current Blocks: 229120 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 703 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 38 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 7622306.53365 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.83668 [15:18]
ThickAsThieves rising pretty briskly [15:18]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [15:18]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 7622306.53365 based on data since last change | 8365365.88258 based on data for last three days [15:18]
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ChaangNoi ;;asks 99.99 [15:22]
gribble There are currently 8305.4313 bitcoins offered at or under 99.99 USD, worth 822387.920549 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.7274 seconds [15:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.0006 = 1.44 BTC [-] [15:28]
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Bugpowder bitcoinity lol [15:30]
ChaangNoi http://slashdot.org/submission/2576047/mtgox-to-accept-litecoin-virtual-currency oh wow [15:30]
Bugpowder watchout, its April 1 [15:31]
ThickAsThieves lol [15:31]
Bugpowder people could lose money speculative buying on that news [15:31]
ChaangNoi :) [15:31]
kakobrekla ohh [15:31]
kakobrekla so that killed the bibet [15:31]
kakobrekla makes perfect sense now [15:32]
ThickAsThieves https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCUSD/money/ticker [15:32]
KRS1 so watch for quick rises in btc? [15:32]
KRS1 maybe? [15:32]
ChaangNoi im not so sure its a joke [15:33]
Bugpowder yeah not sure either [15:33]
Bugpowder April 1 is really a terrible day to issue real press releases though [15:33]
ChaangNoi well, its not like gox did [15:33]
KRS1 idk..Submitted by Anonymous Coward [15:33]
ChaangNoi i know who submited it, he thinks its nt a joke [15:34]
ChaangNoi but he could have been tricked by the org source [15:34]
ChaangNoi anyway if true... [15:34]
ThickAsThieves youll be even richer, we know ;) [15:34]
ChaangNoi i could see $10ltc soon easy [15:34]
ChaangNoi well, if true $1 ltc is cheap [15:35]
ChaangNoi id like to make sure however before trading on this news [15:35]
kakobrekla yes sell all btc asap [15:36]
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Bugpowder ;;bids 0 [15:36]
KRS1 what [15:36]
gribble There are currently 34850658 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9905365.67608 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds [15:36]
KRS1 srsly [15:36]
ColdHardMetal I di quitel ike this thing though: http://www.listentobitcoin.com/ [15:37]
ChaangNoi https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCEUR/money/ticker [15:37]
ChaangNoi CHM neat [15:38]
Bugpowder yeah was listenitng last night, wish there was some correlation between exchange price direction and the sounds, would be much nicer to listen to than clark moody [15:39]
Bugpowder 100 is going down today [15:39]
Bugpowder as I suspected... [15:40]
bitesak ;;ticker [15:40]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 98.00000, Best ask: 98.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 98.19999, 24 hour volume: 38061.25816406, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 98.39650, 24 hour vwap: 94.10042 [15:41]
ChaangNoi wonder if i should order some champagne [15:41]
error4733 is on the fridge from last week [15:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00395455 = 8.7 BTC [-] [15:42]
error4733 srsly [15:42]
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ChaangNoi mine is too, but now traveling [15:44]
ChaangNoi i have two bots in the truck as well but its very hot now [15:45]
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KRS1 its gone down a bit on god [15:48]
KRS1 gox [15:48]
KRS1 not sure what to think here [15:48]
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Bugpowder 4 hours we will be thru 100... [15:49]
Bugpowder guess [15:49]
bitesak my pendulum says Wednesday is when we break through 100 strongly :) [15:50]
Bugpowder is possible [15:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [-] [15:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+] [15:53]
Bugpowder "One popular theory among Russian bloggers speculates that Nakamoto is Grigory Perelman" [15:56]
Bugpowder Hadn't heard that theory before [15:56]
Bugpowder as if Grigory gives 1 shit about the real world... [15:57]
ThickAsThieves getting ready to break ATH [15:59]
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bitesak ;;ticker [16:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 98.00001, Best ask: 98.00002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 98.30000, 24 hour volume: 38913.06244008, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 98.41000, 24 hour vwap: 94.18840 [16:00]
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Bugpowder ;;bids 0 [16:01]
gribble There are currently 34850576 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10026671.1919 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0091 seconds [16:01]
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ChaangNoi ColdHardMetal Ready for 2 million Best Korians to come for a visit? :) [16:05]
ColdHardMetal not worried in the slightest. [16:07]
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ChaangNoi he just be trollin? [16:10]
ChaangNoi http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/nose/ [16:10]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder im pretty sure it's not perelman [16:10]
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KRS1 wtf yes sell all btc asap [16:13]
KRS1 what is wrong with some people..idk maybe its me [16:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 200 @ 0.19960593 = 39.9212 BTC [16:14]
pgp not a very glowing reception of bitcoin - http://www.businessinsider.com/is-bitcoin-money-2013-4 [16:15]
KRS1 i dont think it can be used as money..how would the transactions keep up at that rate..ex. transactional data from just amex alone would choke the network [16:17]
KRS1 maybe a financial tool yes [16:17]
KRS1 facilitate transfer of wealth..idk [16:18]
pgp well, I see money laundering a big red flag that detractors can use... [16:18]
KRS1 yeah..its been used as that since day 1 prolly [16:19]
pgp the question is will the US make some illegal simply because there is no way to regulate it? [16:19]
mircea_popescu pgp there is no such thing as "money laundering". [16:19]
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pgp not in bitcoin terms, I suppose not... a transfer is a transfer... [16:20]
mircea_popescu yup [16:20]
mircea_popescu pecunia non olet. [16:20]
mircea_popescu actually... http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/time-for-europe-to-repeal-the-us-backed-aml-crap/ [16:20]
pgp in pecunium veritas? [16:22]
mircea_popescu that may be taking it a little too far. [16:23]
pgp lol [16:25]
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ChaangNoi ;;asks 99.999 [16:26]
gribble There are currently 7047.7282 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 698874.017257 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds [16:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.226871 = 226.871 BTC [+] [16:30]
ThickAsThieves ;;calc 98/(1-.226871) [16:31]
gribble 126.757630357 [16:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.0006 = 7.02 BTC [-] [16:31]
ChaangNoi 126 :) im sure we will be there by the end of the month [16:32]
mircea_popescu maybe so [16:33]
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thestringpuller !ticker HIM [16:34]
assbot Are you sure you have no tobacco? [16:34]
thestringpuller !ticker h HIM [16:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 2.00000000 / 2.00913043 / 2.06000000 (46 shares, 92.42000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.79383584 / 2.08000000 (226 shares, 405.40690096 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 1.78069269 / 2.08000000 (759 shares, 1351.54575265 BTC) [16:34]
ThickAsThieves 98.7 [16:35]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [16:35]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 58 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: srs [16:35]
ThickAsThieves if burnside doesnt move my ltc for 6+ hours again i will be a sad panda, unless of course the delay stops me from selling off too early [16:36]
thestringpuller why are people trading ltc? [16:37]
thestringpuller Must be a lot like silver now [16:37]
ThickAsThieves it's at 1.22USD right now [16:38]
ThickAsThieves about double from a week ago [16:38]
pgp what's the market cap of ltc? [16:38]
thestringpuller couple million I would think at this point [16:39]
thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc [16:39]
gribble Error: "bc,24hprc" is not a valid command. [16:39]
thestringpuller ;;avg [16:39]
gribble Error: "avg" is not a valid command. [16:39]
mircea_popescu like 10mn ? [16:39]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what is the new 24hr price command for gribble? [16:40]
thestringpuller ;;seen nanotube [16:40]
gribble nanotube was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: dub: ^ see this page for updated command guide [16:40]
ThickAsThieves $avgpc [16:40]
mircea_popescu i have no idea [16:40]
ThickAsThieves :/ [16:40]
thestringpuller $avgpc [16:40]
thestringpuller ;;avgpc [16:40]
gribble Error: "avgpc" is not a valid command. [16:40]
thestringpuller ;;avgprc [16:40]
gribble (avgprc ) -- Returns volume-weighted average price data from MtGox. is a three-letter currency code, is the time window for the average, and can be '24h', '7d', or '30d'. [16:40]
thestringpuller ;;avgprc USD 24h [16:40]
gribble 94.32 [16:40]
ThickAsThieves $avg [16:40]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 94.32 [16:40]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [16:40]
ThickAsThieves there it is [16:40]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 98.77000, Best ask: 98.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 98.81000, 24 hour volume: 40195.63814671, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 98.79000, 24 hour vwap: 94.41626 [16:41]
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jurov 99 [16:45]
ThickAsThieves mircea_popescu, how do I know what the top payout is for an IDIFF I purchased? [16:45]
mircea_popescu the top you don't know. you know what the bottom is. [16:45]
ChaangNoi here comes 100 [16:45]
ThickAsThieves is there a minimum % required? [16:45]
ThickAsThieves if i buy at .13, top could be .131 then? [16:46]
jurov 99.1 ... wonder what bitcoinity has in store for 100 [16:46]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves : from the page [16:46]
mircea_popescu Unlike other futures X.IDIFF.* will require 2.9x the difficulty at last settlement for each quarter out, so for instance if traded in January 2013 X.IDIFF.MAR will require 0.097735278 BTC per contract as collateral whereas X.IDIFF.DEC will require 2.383665695 BTC per contract as collateral (all numeric examples based on 3370182 as last settlement difficulty value). [16:47]
mircea_popescu if it's current period, 2.9x [16:47]
mircea_popescu if it's 9 months+ away, 2.9**4x [16:47]
jurov ;;calc 2.9*0.048 [16:47]
gribble 0.1392 [16:47]
ThickAsThieves so the JUNE would require 2.9x the sale price? [16:47]
jurov ^ should not be lower than that [16:47]
ThickAsThieves oh [16:47]
jurov not sale price. 2.9*current difficulty [16:48]
ThickAsThieves not current, but most recently settled [16:48]
jurov ic [16:48]
mircea_popescu last settlement yes [16:48]
ThickAsThieves that's a lil gay [16:48]
mircea_popescu why ? [16:48]
thestringpuller so the difficulty based on futures is going to speculated to be betwen 8.9mn and 45mn.... [16:49]
jurov 99.9 [16:49]
ThickAsThieves cuz i bougth june at 0.1375 yesterday [16:49]
ThickAsThieves so now i'm stuck giving someone a cheap loan [16:49]
mircea_popescu i don't follow. [16:50]
ThickAsThieves my max payout is potentially only 1.22% profit [16:50]
ThickAsThieves for 2mos [16:51]
ThickAsThieves correct? [16:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C095T] 100 @ 0.2437597 = 24.376 BTC [+] [16:51]
mircea_popescu a, possibly. [16:51]
mircea_popescu much more concerning would be the possibility diff doesn't go over 13.75mn by july tho [16:51]
thestringpuller why are people buying options so early [16:51]
jonny7 99.95 :) [16:51]
ThickAsThieves top liability should be disclosed [16:51]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [16:51]
mircea_popescu 25 days out is early ?! [16:51]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.01000, Best ask: 99.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 99.95156, 24 hour volume: 44641.62362351, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 99.95000, 24 hour vwap: 94.89046 [16:52]
thestringpuller Yea mang [16:52]
thestringpuller where is smickles when this action is going on [16:52]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves minimal coverage is discolosed tho, that's what that contract is there for. [16:52]
thestringpuller I need to interface with his bot [16:52]
thestringpuller $avg [16:52]
mpexbot thestringpuller: 94.69 [16:52]
ChaangNoi ;;asks 99.9 [16:53]
ThickAsThieves yes, but my bull-in-china-shop approach to things doesn't jive with reading things closely sometimes :/ [16:53]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 99.9 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.3115 seconds [16:53]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [16:53]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.01000, Best ask: 99.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 99.01000, 24 hour volume: 44641.62362351, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 99.95000, 24 hour vwap: 94.89046 [16:53]
ThickAsThieves if the top liability was disclosed it would allow for better offers as well [16:54]
ThickAsThieves rather than a minimum [16:54]
mircea_popescu thanks to bug's support tesla is about to buy apple :D [16:54]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves ya well, there's no practical way to disclose top exposure tho. [16:54]
ThickAsThieves add a field for it? [16:55]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: now is the time to sell options [16:55]
ThickAsThieves not to mess with your craiglist approach to feature development or anything :P [16:55]
thestringpuller buy them toward the end based on the fact the time factor plays a huge role in the pricing [16:55]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller perhaps. [16:56]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's not just a simple matter of a field. [16:56]
ThickAsThieves oh i know [16:56]
ThickAsThieves it's probably also not a a matter of brain surgery [16:56]
mircea_popescu think about it : today someone makes a 4 quarters out option [16:56]
mircea_popescu he has to pay 70x last settlement in collateral. [16:57]
mircea_popescu two quarters pass. diff goes up only 100% [16:57]
mircea_popescu now, somebody wants to make 1000 options. [16:57]
mircea_popescu if he has to pay 70x this is absurd [16:57]
mircea_popescu if he pays less it dillutes the original. [16:57]
ThickAsThieves they could simply be written as offer price, max payout price, with no relation to past settlements, no? [16:58]
mircea_popescu no. [16:58]
mircea_popescu because executions must be allocated uniformly to old and new contracts. [16:59]
ThickAsThieves if i resell these at .15 and theyre original top is .139, what happens for the new buyer? [16:59]
ThickAsThieves their* [17:00]
mircea_popescu he makes .139 if he exercises. [17:00]
ThickAsThieves si it's possible for me to sell at a price that has 0% of profit [17:00]
mircea_popescu sure. [17:00]
ThickAsThieves :/ [17:00]
mircea_popescu it's possible for you to sell at any price you wish, [17:00]
mircea_popescu as long as someone accepts it [17:01]
ThickAsThieves hehe [17:01]
ThickAsThieves i mean i understand it, but really i dont [17:01]
mircea_popescu lol that's a new one [17:01]
mircea_popescu let's go through a full example. [17:01]
ThickAsThieves sure [17:02]
mircea_popescu today is april 1st. the last settlement was 7mn. [17:02]
ThickAsThieves lets use my example if possible [17:02]
ThickAsThieves Buy X.IDIFF.JUN 60 0.1375 -8.25 [17:02]
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mircea_popescu if you create one X.IDIFF.MAR future, you will have to pay 2.9**4*.07 as collateral. [17:02]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 2.9**4*.07 [17:02]
gribble 4.950967 [17:02]
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mircea_popescu so you deposit 4.95btc, get your X.IDIFF.MAR. [17:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.44699999 = 3.129 BTC [+] [17:03]
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mircea_popescu now, nothing happens until February 2014. [17:03]
mircea_popescu at which point last settlement diff is 16mn. [17:03]
mircea_popescu how much should someone have to pay per option at that date ? [17:03]
mircea_popescu as collateral, to create one i mean. [17:03]
Bugpowdurr ;;bids [17:03]
gribble (bids [--under] ) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over . If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under . [17:03]
Bugpowdurr ;;bids 0 [17:03]
gribble There are currently 34918304 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10082902.8829 USD in total. | Data vintage: 74.5978 seconds [17:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.447 = 1.341 BTC [+] [17:05]
ChaangNoi some sill bear is making a new wall lol [17:05]
ThickAsThieves 46400000? [17:05]
mircea_popescu how did you figure ? [17:05]
ThickAsThieves 16mil times 2.9 [17:05]
mircea_popescu okay. [17:05]
mircea_popescu now if you had bought a contract back in july thinking it's 4.95 covered [17:06]
mircea_popescu and someone makes a contract now which is 0.46 covered [17:06]
jurov 100 [17:06]
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mircea_popescu you will only get ~half of what you originally thought you will get. [17:06]
ChaangNoi fuck yeah [17:06]
ChaangNoi muhahaha [17:06]
pgp congrats everyone [17:06]
ThickAsThieves what i meant was [17:06]
ColdHardMetal bitcoinity bringing the lulz today. [17:07]
ThickAsThieves if the futures were simply offered under simpler terms at will, wouldnt that still work [17:07]
ThickAsThieves as in, [17:07]
ThickAsThieves i make one anytime i want for any amount, covered to any man payout i want [17:07]
ThickAsThieves man=max [17:07]
mircea_popescu so what's the buyer buy ? [17:07]
ThickAsThieves for example [17:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2850 @ 0.004 = 11.4 BTC [+] [17:08]
mircea_popescu no example. if you make contracvts any way you want, what's the buyer supposed to buy ? [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00352101 = 7.042 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.003521 = 5.2815 BTC [-] [17:08]
ChaangNoi 4k buy order at 100 nice [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 43 @ 0.00351201 = 0.151 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032101 = 3.2101 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 18408 @ 0.00310002 = 57.0652 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6386 @ 0.00310002 = 19.7967 BTC [-] [17:08]
ChaangNoi that wall wont last long [17:08]
mircea_popescu they obviously become unfungible now. [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00310001 = 9.3 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7125 @ 0.0031 = 22.0875 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 643 @ 0.20288146 = 130.4528 BTC [+] [17:08]
ThickAsThieves i put up collateral for my max payout [17:08]
ThickAsThieves and make offer below that [17:08]
ThickAsThieves and disclose max payout [17:08]
ThickAsThieves then buyer decides value [17:09]
pgp now what? [17:09]
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ThickAsThieves like Jurov's [17:09]
mircea_popescu so each and every single contract has to be specified independently. [17:09]
mircea_popescu that's not how standardized contracts work. [17:09]
ThickAsThieves you could have limits if you like [17:09]
mircea_popescu i do like, and i do have limits. [17:09]
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mircea_popescu that's exactly it : you know you won't get less than x. [17:10]
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jurov okay at least could be authoritatively shown [17:10]
jurov beacuse last settlement was not 0.07 iirc [17:10]
jurov but 0.048 [17:10]
ThickAsThieves okay but right now no one can offer a reasonable IDIFF for June right? [17:10]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves why not ? [17:11]
mircea_popescu jurov yeah but mpex is not a datasource. [17:11]
ThickAsThieves because odds are that the diff will be much higher than your minimum payout [17:11]
ChaangNoi ;;asks 100.1 [17:11]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves higher than ~12mn ? [17:11]
jurov yes mpex is do ur own research [17:11]
gribble There are currently 1143.0168 bitcoins offered at or under 100.1 USD, worth 114294.520819 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0008 seconds [17:11]
mircea_popescu jurov like, if you don't know what btc/usd is you can't trade options [17:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4216 = 1.2648 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4215005 BTC [-] [17:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.42150003 = 2.529 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.42150001 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.421 = 4.631 BTC [-] [17:12]
mircea_popescu if you don't know what diff was you can't trade futures [17:12]
mircea_popescu etc. [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [-] [17:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.41 = 4.1 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.40678129 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.40005 = 1.6002 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.40000001 = 12.4 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.397 BTC [-] [17:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.396 = 1.98 BTC [-] [17:12]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [17:12]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 7 @ 0.20551087 = 1.4386 BTC [+] [17:12]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 7647329.85957 based on data since last change | 8527812.32019 based on data for last three days [17:12]
ThickAsThieves 8.5mil coming up [17:12]
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Bugpowdurr ;;bids 0 [17:12]
gribble There are currently 35118439 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9804244.95426 USD in total. | Data vintage: 57.1263 seconds [17:12]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves obviously it's a trade-off. 2.9 might not be optimal in some fringe cases [17:12]
jurov mircea_popescu but you know now how easy is to get false information [17:12]
ThickAsThieves so idiff June at 14mil is useless [17:13]
mircea_popescu but otherwise it imposes a capital burden on underwriters. so it is guesswork [17:13]
mircea_popescu jurov how do you mean ? [17:13]
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jurov you just shoot the 0.07 number which isn't true [17:13]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves hopefully the network stabilises and we'll be fine. [17:13]
jurov if you don't know it, who can? [17:13]
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mircea_popescu jurov i was giving a didactic example. [17:13]
mircea_popescu i wasn't proposing it's actual case. [17:13]
mircea_popescu just came up with some numbers. [17:13]
jurov well, certain MPBPT investors almost felt liek lynching me cuz such "examples" [17:14]
jurov better clearly mark them [17:14]
ThickAsThieves do you agree that the odds of IDIFFJUN closing at any sort of profit are nigh impossible? [17:15]
jurov okay, not to get flamey, for public record: [17:15]
jurov March settlement was 0.04847647 [17:15]
jurov so minimal JUN collateral is [17:15]
jurov ;;calc 0.04847647*2.9 [17:15]
gribble 0.140581763 [17:15]
ThickAsThieves why offer options that are born to lose? [17:16]
pizzaman1337 zomg, bitcoin 100 [17:16]
pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [17:17]
pgp here come the post 100 froth... [17:17]
ZedsterX 101 like a shot [17:17]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.00000, Best ask: 100.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 99.98000, 24 hour volume: 53736.31362686, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 100.00000, 24 hour vwap: 95.75237 [17:17]
Bugpowdurr my iphone ticker cant display the price?? [17:17]
jurov maximal collateral would be [17:18]
jurov ;;calc 2.9*2.9*2.9*0.01137814 [17:18]
gribble 0.27750145646 [17:18]
mircea_popescu Bugpowdurr ahaha [17:18]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i have no idea. prolly, if any serious hash is delivered. [17:18]
jurov if i'm taking September 19 into account [17:18]
Bugpowdurr stuck at 99.98 [17:18]
ThickAsThieves so my point is, change your system to one that works [17:19]
ThickAsThieves in the real world [17:19]
ThickAsThieves rather than just on paper [17:19]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves listen : i could make minimum collateral 1000x. [17:19]
mircea_popescu then the system "would work" in all fringe cases, except nobody will depost 1k btc for a 1btc contract [17:19]
mircea_popescu so it wouldn't work at all. [17:19]
ThickAsThieves you are jumping to extremes [17:19]
mircea_popescu of course i am. this is exactly what we have here, an extreme [17:20]
ThickAsThieves there's lotsa room in the middle [17:20]
mircea_popescu ie, a case where diff increases > 3x during 3 months. this isn't normal. [17:20]
ThickAsThieves it's normal all year most likely [17:20]
ThickAsThieves would you prefer the futures be useless all year? [17:20]
mircea_popescu i'm not increasing collateral maargin for the simple reason that even as it is underwriting is dismal. [17:21]
mircea_popescu so it'd be pointless pretty much. [17:21]
jurov for me it would be sufficient if mp publishes basic data, like past settlement values or option autoexercise vwap prices [17:21]
jurov or if that's beyond mpex mission, then don't show dividends either [17:21]
ThickAsThieves just feels stubborn to me, you could be offering a feature that people would use much more [17:21]
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mircea_popescu jurov dividends are shown as the sum of div transactions in mpex. [17:21]
ChaangNoi ;;asks 110 [17:21]
gribble There are currently 8865.2797 bitcoins offered at or under 110.0 USD, worth 940190.755187 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.5899 seconds [17:22]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you are not reading it seems. CURRENTLY, at 2.9x, NOBODY is underwrtiting it. [17:22]
mircea_popescu if it were 3.1x, even less than nobody would be underwriting it. [17:22]
mircea_popescu do you follow that ? [17:22]
ThickAsThieves you are interpreting my solution as only a change in min collateral [17:22]
ThickAsThieves i never suggested that [17:23]
ThickAsThieves you did [17:23]
mircea_popescu ok, well... the other thing i got was "make each idifff a different, user specified contract" [17:23]
mircea_popescu this doesn't work, because market traded contracts have to be standardised. [17:23]
mircea_popescu ie, all the same. [17:23]
ThickAsThieves at the core, what i'm syaing is, make them usable [17:23]
mircea_popescu that's like saying grow tits. [17:23]
ThickAsThieves lol [17:23]
mircea_popescu or you know, make pigs fly. [17:24]
mircea_popescu sure, why not. [17:24]
ThickAsThieves not quite [17:24]
mircea_popescu well ? [17:24]
ThickAsThieves then why do jurov's work fine? [17:24]
ThickAsThieves he has extra tits? [17:24]
jurov cuz i'm using abhorrent practice of magic numbers [17:24]
bitesak ;;ticker [17:24]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.98001, Best ask: 101.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 101.00000, 24 hour volume: 54713.02069310, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 101.00000, 24 hour vwap: 95.83748 [17:25]
jurov and also marketmaking them [17:25]
mircea_popescu define "Work fine" in this context [17:25]
ThickAsThieves they use a price that is reasonable, for a potential payout that is reasonable [17:26]
mircea_popescu can you underwrite some with jurov and sell them to him ? [17:26]
ThickAsThieves if i asked him maybe [17:26]
mircea_popescu without asking him. [17:26]
mircea_popescu through a process. [17:26]
mircea_popescu otherwise this is simply an otc trade. [17:26]
ThickAsThieves ok, you need a NEW process [17:26]
mircea_popescu no. i have a process, he is doing otc. [17:27]
mircea_popescu this is perfectly fine, but they are different things. [17:27]
ThickAsThieves for example, you could say DIFF futures can be written at any price, but you must offer 125% collateral for potential profit of buyer [17:27]
ThickAsThieves you can still limit close dates [17:27]
ThickAsThieves and increments [17:27]
mircea_popescu 125% OF WHAT. [17:27]
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ThickAsThieves underwriters chosen price [17:27]
mircea_popescu ... [17:27]
jurov that's a point. but converting it into a process would be easy if ukto makes apis public. [17:27]
mircea_popescu so if you choose 1 satoshi ? [17:28]
jurov the conditions are clear. [17:28]
ThickAsThieves then no one will buy [17:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.2899 = 0.5798 BTC [+] [17:28]
mircea_popescu you're not thinking very well. [17:28]
mircea_popescu he makes the chosen price 1 satoshi, deposts 1.25 satoshi per [17:28]
mircea_popescu then sells them for .05 btc each and withdraws. [17:28]
ThickAsThieves no [17:28]
mircea_popescu you've just made mpex bankrupt. [17:28]
ThickAsThieves no [17:28]
ThickAsThieves sells them for 1 satishi [17:28]
mircea_popescu so what, if he cancels the bid the futures dissapear from his account ? [17:29]
ThickAsThieves so you make the minimum price the current diff [17:29]
mircea_popescu o i see. [17:29]
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mircea_popescu well here's the beauty : this is already implemented. [17:29]
mircea_popescu he has to deposit 290% of the PREVIOUS DIFF [17:29]
mircea_popescu bam. [17:29]
ThickAsThieves previous = current now? [17:29]
ThickAsThieves nope [17:30]
mircea_popescu last settlement. [17:30]
deadweasel ;;ticker [17:30]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.05100, Best ask: 101.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44900, Last trade: 101.05100, 24 hour volume: 56319.87614438, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 101.00000, 24 hour vwap: 95.98390 [17:30]
ThickAsThieves why does last settlement matter to anyone? [17:30]
deadweasel boom. triple digits. [17:30]
mircea_popescu yay [17:30]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that's how futurtes work. settlement to settlement. [17:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.15299 = 0.765 BTC [+] [17:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 8 @ 0.153 = 1.224 BTC [+] [17:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.154 BTC [+] [17:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 6 @ 0.155 = 0.93 BTC [+] [17:30]
ThickAsThieves it's okay, i see your take on it, and wanting to use hard numbers, but all i'm trying to do is get you to open the idea of finding a formula that is more likely to be useful in the current environment [17:31]
jurov i don't see a problem with formula [17:31]
jurov just that it needs research what the previous settlements were [17:32]
ThickAsThieves how would you change it [17:32]
jurov then investor comes to result that it's covered somewhere between 0.14 and 0.27 [17:32]
jurov then asks mp, how much it is exactly, mp refuses [17:33]
jurov so investor goes away [17:33]
jurov unnecessarily complicated process, i say [17:33]
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ThickAsThieves man, those sure are some cheap IDIFFJUN futures listed, someone should snatch them up [17:34]
jurov just cuz "mpex isnt data platform" [17:34]
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jurov or perhaps mp expects someone other do do all the computations and dirty work, but that isn't working [17:37]
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jurov few fools are willing to invest into anything mpex-related [17:37]
jborkl micrea_popescu, can I get a deposit cleared [17:37]
ThickAsThieves litecoin singularity [17:39]
ThickAsThieves .0145 BTC/LTC [17:39]
ChaangNoi yeah [17:40]
ChaangNoi it is awesomely insane [17:40]
mircea_popescu deposits flushed. [17:40]
mircea_popescu jurov i don't think that's particularly fair. [17:40]
jborkl Thanks [17:40]
mircea_popescu for one settlement was announced in here when it happened. [17:40]
ChaangNoi ltc goes from 5 cents to $1.40 in no time [17:40]
mircea_popescu for the other, just read the graph wtf. [17:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00401 = 0.0201 BTC [+] [17:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 53 @ 0.004005 = 0.2123 BTC [-] [17:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 815 @ 0.004 = 3.26 BTC [-] [17:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 99 @ 0.004 = 0.396 BTC [-] [17:40]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the 15.8mn ? so get them [17:41]
ThickAsThieves they are worthless no? [17:41]
ThickAsThieves well, worth less [17:42]
ThickAsThieves right? [17:42]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74996 BTC [-] [17:43]
ThickAsThieves their max payout is last settlement * 2.9, which is < the sell price [17:43]
jurov i know i'm unfair and disgruntled sometimes... but you seem really to have a problem even to hire PR and evangelist [17:43]
mircea_popescu jurov how is this my problem you figure ? [17:44]
jurov as as a someone who tried to "evangelize" MPEx i think i know why [17:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6300 @ 0.00367331 = 23.1419 BTC [+] [17:44]
mircea_popescu you go to finance conferences ?! [17:44]
jurov not, just some meetings [17:45]
mircea_popescu kay... [17:45]
mircea_popescu so what do you know ? [17:45]
pizzaman1337 ;;goxlag [17:45]
gribble 73.292636 seconds [17:45]
jurov well, i explain what i'm doing, what is mpex [17:45]
jurov dig some links deep from trilema, praying they don't hit the paywall [17:46]
jurov am asked to explain who is this mircea popescu again, i handwave it [17:46]
jurov then they find out about MPOE-PR :) [17:47]
jurov or even if they can get past her [17:47]
jurov "what? so all there is is option speculation, betting site and casino?" [17:48]
pizzaman1337 lol [17:48]
pizzaman1337 idiff [17:48]
jurov i know it's unfair judgement, but i just aren;t apt enough to explain past that point [17:48]
mircea_popescu who are these people ? [17:48]
jurov not bankers. managers of small/medium IT companies [17:49]
jurov but it don't think bankers would be much different even if i could reach them [17:49]
pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [17:50]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.90000, Best ask: 104.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 103.90000, 24 hour volume: 60517.76520989, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 104.00000, 24 hour vwap: 96.47673 [17:50]
mircea_popescu but i mean... [17:50]
pizzaman1337 love this price action [17:50]
ChaangNoi lol ltc not going to stop [17:50]
ThickAsThieves chaang, the walls are being torn to bits! [17:50]
mircea_popescu i read this and what i see is "i couldn't make people living in queens understand what the schmier is with stock options. i'm sure high powered executives would bne the same" [17:51]
mircea_popescu what sense does that make [17:51]
jurov okay, maybe thare is a big difference, i don't know [17:51]
jurov just my small queens reality [17:51]
jurov makes me bitter :( [17:52]
mircea_popescu don't get bitter. [17:52]
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mircea_popescu understand : the general public is very dangeours (chiefly to itself) in any sort of functionuing marketplace. [17:53]
mircea_popescu we'll have to take them in slowly and selectively. [17:53]
jurov it occurs to me you want to skip mass market completely and soar directly into high finance [17:54]
jurov do you have previous experience with such? [17:54]
grubles hundred dolla bill yo [17:55]
ThickAsThieves ''ticker [17:55]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [17:56]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.47500, Best ask: 103.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02500, Last trade: 103.50000, 24 hour volume: 60517.76520989, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 104.00000, 24 hour vwap: 96.47673 [17:56]
mircea_popescu there's no mass market of bitcoin securities ;/ [17:56]
mircea_popescu and yes, but local and mostly unofficial. [17:56]
jurov i mean, buffett can say "2.9x last settlement value" and everyone can easily look up authoritative source [17:57]
mircea_popescu i admit the 2.9x is just some number i took out of my ass. [17:57]
mircea_popescu (well, we had a board meeting, but anyway) [17:58]
mircea_popescu what'd you want me do ? i can't increase it. [17:58]
jurov they have something to bootfstrap from. but for bitcoin best i can find is some google spreadsheet of past difficulty values [17:58]
mircea_popescu um [17:58]
mircea_popescu there's sipa's thing no ? [17:58]
jurov is he providing csv or like? [17:58]
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jurov this by Stephen Gornick: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHVRMHpqWUJValI1RlZiaEtCT1RrQmc [17:59]
mircea_popescu perhaps best to ask him, buit in general speaking the problems of access to market data [17:59]
mircea_popescu while significant for a trading place, are NOT to be solved by the trading place itself. [17:59]
mircea_popescu it's very important to have sepparate data feeds and trading, [17:59]
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mircea_popescu because it insulates from market manipulation accusations. [18:00]
mircea_popescu or in other words : my insistence in implementing correct designs or nothing at all, and decentralisations such as these may make me look like an idiot today [18:01]
mircea_popescu but i'm pretty darned certain will save everyone a shitton of sweat, blood and tears in five years. [18:01]
ThickAsThieves no data feed needed to fix diff futures [18:01]
ThickAsThieves but they would indeed need more than a factor change [18:02]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you still haven't solidified your idea into something we can discuss tho. [18:02]
ThickAsThieves what if you play devils advocate [18:03]
ThickAsThieves and do better than me [18:03]
mircea_popescu ya, see, this doesn't work as an approach. i mean it's prolly fine in middle school or w/e, but i'm not 14. [18:03]
ThickAsThieves that matters? [18:03]
ThickAsThieves this isnt school [18:03]
mircea_popescu well yes, it does. if i had a better way i'd be doing it. [18:03]
mircea_popescu what did you think ? [18:03]
ThickAsThieves just a customer urging for evolution of your features and offers [18:04]
ThickAsThieves so you are saying there is absolutely no room for improvement? [18:04]
mircea_popescu that's fine, but it seems to me like a case of "you should improve your exchange so everybody makes money on all trades" [18:04]
ThickAsThieves nah [18:04]
mircea_popescu it's a nice sentiment, but fundamentally unworkable. [18:04]
ThickAsThieves so they are desirable at all [18:04]
ThickAsThieves i wanna be able to lose money and make moneyt [18:04]
jurov ThickAsThieves what concrete improvement you desire? [18:04]
ThickAsThieves rather than just lose money [18:04]
mircea_popescu yeah, specify something i can follow. [18:05]
jurov like I said concretely "publish last settlement values". [18:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [+] [18:05]
ThickAsThieves add a factor for volatility from one settlement to the next? [18:05]
ThickAsThieves then you dont need outside data [18:06]
ThickAsThieves but can stay more dynamic [18:06]
mircea_popescu what's the 2.9x ? [18:06]
ThickAsThieves arbitrary? [18:06]
mircea_popescu yes, but is it a factor for volatility from one settlement to the next. [18:06]
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ThickAsThieves use two settlements as data points [18:06]
ThickAsThieves or 3 even [18:06]
mircea_popescu why ? [18:07]
ThickAsThieves to make your factor dynamic [18:07]
mircea_popescu i mean i could use all 4 (barring the fact that currenlty we only have 1 anyway) [18:07]
mircea_popescu and that may be a good idea, but won't really be worth discussing for about another year [18:07]
jurov ThickAsThieves, that ould make sense only if there was some discernible trend [18:07]
mircea_popescu jurov i think his presumption is that diff can not go down [18:08]
ThickAsThieves no [18:08]
mircea_popescu this is liable to be correct for as long as mining is still immature obviously. [18:08]
ThickAsThieves i want a formula that is more representative of trend [18:08]
ChaangNoi ;;asks 115 [18:08]
gribble There are currently 11527.345 bitcoins offered at or under 115.0 USD, worth 1246988.35026 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0010 seconds [18:08]
ThickAsThieves last settlement is not enough [18:08]
Bugpowdurr ;;ticker [18:09]
jurov ThickAsThieves, go make one yourself. you'll be rich [18:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.10001, Best ask: 101.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89999, Last trade: 100.10001, 24 hour volume: 65241.37945590, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.05058 [18:09]
Bugpowdurr my precious [18:09]
ThickAsThieves what if you settled every diff change? [18:09]
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mircea_popescu that'd be incredibly short term [18:09]
bitessak ;;goxlag [18:09]
mircea_popescu i'd need ~30 or so items in a year [18:09]
gribble 0 seconds [18:10]
ThickAsThieves but you'd have many more options forward [18:10]
ChaangNoi hmm back under 100? :) [18:10]
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mircea_popescu not to mention we don't even know how many exactly. [18:10]
bitessak ;;ticker [18:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.74996 = 5.9997 BTC [-] [18:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74997 BTC [+] [18:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 0.74998 = 19.4995 BTC [+] [18:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.01000, Best ask: 100.99900, Bid-ask spread: 0.98900, Last trade: 100.99900, 24 hour volume: 66370.06016972, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.11111 [18:10]
ThickAsThieves if yo arent willing to use outside data, arent willing to settle more often, arent willing to make factor more dynamic, then that rules out my current ideas but one [18:11]
ThickAsThieves just making them entrely custom [18:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00060388 = 5.3141 BTC [+] [18:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00060609 = 13.1522 BTC [+] [18:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00060809 = 0.6081 BTC [+] [18:11]
ThickAsThieves write it for sale at any price, but you must be able to cover a minimum % on top iof it [18:12]
ThickAsThieves disclose both [18:12]
ThickAsThieves then let buyer decide [18:12]
jurov ThickAsThieves: other exchanges would probably welcome your completely customized futures [18:12]
ThickAsThieves well yours already work fine [18:13]
smickles oh shit [18:13]
jurov but even i don't offer such customizability "cover up to whatever you want" [18:13]
jurov that would be a mess [18:13]
smickles i wake up to nyancat and the joker on bitcoinity [18:13]
ThickAsThieves you could limit the parameters of what was custom [18:14]
thestringpuller smickles: hey hey [18:14]
thestringpuller see my om [18:14]
thestringpuller om [18:14]
smickles kk [18:14]
ThickAsThieves like increments or such [18:14]
thestringpuller pm* [18:14]
ThickAsThieves doesnt have to be total free for all [18:14]
jurov i'd then have to list multiple securities, with different collaterals [18:14]
mircea_popescu anyway, all that aside, the idiff futures are largely an experimental asset, so [18:15]
jurov two with fixed one are enough [18:15]
splnkr so, we finally broke 100….anyone win any bets on that one? [18:15]
ThickAsThieves in the end i'm just asking for a way to spend more on mpex :) [18:16]
jurov lol [18:16]
ThickAsThieves so give it to me baby [18:16]
mircea_popescu splnkr probably. [18:16]
jurov make it more like satoshidice, you say [18:16]
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ThickAsThieves not exactly [18:16]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163260.0 [18:16]
ThickAsThieves but there is certainly a betting platform idea in there somewhere [18:17]
mircea_popescu this is something else [18:17]
smickles oh... it's nyanslug for the lag [18:17]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [18:18]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 100.50000, Best ask: 100.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 100.90000, 24 hour volume: 66370.06016972, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.11111 [18:18]
ThickAsThieves lol: [18:19]
ThickAsThieves 11:16] [ZigGap] 1500000.0 @ 0.00000152 = 2.28000000 [-] [18:19]
ThickAsThieves [11:16] [ZigGap] 3000000.0 @ 0.00000151 = 4.53000000 [-] [18:19]
ThickAsThieves [11:16] [ZigGap] 190000.0 @ 0.00000150 = 0.28500000 [-] [18:19]
ThickAsThieves that hurts [18:19]
ChaangNoi zipgap? [18:20]
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ThickAsThieves they are on BF [18:20]
mircea_popescu is this the dead asset deprived was discussing ? [18:20]
ThickAsThieves yes [18:21]
ChaangNoi i never invested or even heard of that [18:21]
ThickAsThieves ipo was at .0005 [18:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P080T] 5 @ 0.0753858 = 0.3769 BTC [18:21]
jborkl ziggap is down for maint. be back soon [18:21]
ThickAsThieves oops [18:21]
jborkl oops [18:21]
ThickAsThieves .00005 [18:21]
ChaangNoi .005 damn [18:21]
ChaangNoi better but still not fun [18:21]
Bugpowdurr http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TSLA [18:21]
ThickAsThieves second round was at .0001 [18:21]
ChaangNoi was it a scam? [18:21]
ThickAsThieves all sold out [18:21]
Bugpowdurr yes of course it was a scam [18:21]
_aeon https://b1tm3.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/a-visit-to-mt-gox/ [18:21]
mircea_popescu Bugpowdurr your habit of logging in and then dropping makes you lose out. [18:21]
_aeon First we need to get everything stabilized with licensing and we are considering creating entities around the world with the correct licensing, which is a lot of work. Sometimes it’s less work, e.g. in Europe where you get a license for one country it’s valid within the EU, but in the US you need to get a license from every single state. It means you need an office in every single state, you need to discuss with every single state [18:22]
_aeon conditions, there are a lot of differences between them… It’s a nightmare. That’s one reason why we want Coinlab to do it for us: it’s too much work.” [18:22]
mircea_popescu Apr 01 15:15:32 ;;later tell bugpowder : here's an idea : make hashing processors out of dragonfly brains. [18:22]
Bugpowdurr I do feel like a loser [18:22]
thestringpuller Bugpowdurr: all your predictions jave come true [18:22]
bitessak ;;ticker [18:22]
mircea_popescu _aeon are you related to ziggap ? [18:22]
thestringpuller you are the oracle [18:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.75000, Best ask: 100.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 100.50000, 24 hour volume: 66370.06016972, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.11111 [18:22]
ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.msg1715159#msg1715159 [18:22]
thestringpuller guide us o wise one [18:23]
_aeon no affiliations [18:23]
mircea_popescu a ok. [18:23]
thestringpuller ziggap is plummeting [18:23]
Bugpowdurr buy calls [18:23]
mircea_popescu " you need to discuss with every single state" ya dood, i'm sure every single state is discussing shit with every single bootstrapped project. [18:23]
mircea_popescu also for the record : mtgox failed to get registered in europe, got kicked out of france, [18:24]
mircea_popescu are currently using some eastern european banks which allows them to skirt it. [18:24]
ThickAsThieves i can buy calls with the 45btc i just made on ltc [18:24]
Scrat Re: ziggap, aethero said 3 days ago in -otc that his HDD crashed [18:24]
Scrat hasn't been online since [18:24]
mircea_popescu course their usual lieing sort of bs suggests they do have eu licenses. [18:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.004 = 1.8 BTC [+] [18:24]
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mircea_popescu Scrat a my bad, brain confused aeon/aethero [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.0006 = 12 BTC [-] [18:25]
Scrat ;;seen #bitcoin-otc aethero [18:25]
gribble aethero was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 2 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: bubble popped [18:25]
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burnside damn, ziggap.com down again [18:25]
thestringpuller buy puts on ziggap! [18:26]
mircea_popescu "Obama Proclaims April the Month to Teach Young People ‘How to Budget Responsibly’" [18:26]
mircea_popescu best april fool's ever. [18:26]
bitessak ;;ticker [18:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.95348, Best ask: 99.98345, Bid-ask spread: 0.02997, Last trade: 99.95348, 24 hour volume: 67981.72491317, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 97.21329 [18:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.00479 = 0.0431 BTC [-] [18:26]
Bugpowdurr well [18:27]
Bugpowdurr that was fun while it lasted [18:27]
Bugpowdurr what if today is the top [18:27]
Bugpowdurr how sad a thought [18:27]
mircea_popescu obviously it was going to get kicked back as soon as it went over 100 [18:27]
mircea_popescu Bugpowdurr the puts covered earlier so dunno about that. [18:27]
Bugpowdurr everytime I have a sad thought like that I imagine being in position 8500 in the gox verification queue, then I get a little happier [18:28]
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Bugpowdurr ;;bids 90 [18:29]
mircea_popescu lol [18:29]
gribble There are currently 25109.349 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 2313401.22003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 76.7031 seconds [18:29]
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ThickAsThieves wow [18:30]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [18:30]
gribble 62054.1218082 [18:30]
ThickAsThieves nice [18:30]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [18:30]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 7667060.77584 based on data since last change | 8668728.39687 based on data for last three days [18:30]
ThickAsThieves can't believe how cheap those idiff futures are! :) [18:31]
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Bugpowdurr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crXK49f9kQg [18:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 918 @ 0.00380051 = 3.4889 BTC [-] [18:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00374009 = 6.7322 BTC [-] [18:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0037005 = 7.401 BTC [-] [18:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+] [18:43]
smickles $unconfirmed [18:45]
mpexbot smickles: 557 [18:45]
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DeaDTerra WTS G.SDICE,GSDPT,G.MPOE,G.BBET, BTCQuick and TU.Silver shares! [18:48]
ZedsterX so DICE is just dead? [18:50]
ZedsterX people can't sell it fast enough [18:50]
Bugpowdurr well [18:50]
Bugpowdurr gotta get capital to buy calls dude [18:51]
DeaDTerra Nah DICE is not dead [18:51]
DeaDTerra just having a bad month [18:51]
ZedsterX i was sure it would bounce back a bit at the the of the month but no luck [18:51]
jborkl Dice still profited over 100,000k USD, on a bad month [18:52]
ZedsterX and ppl still dump [18:52]
jborkl well,people can not see past tomorrow [18:52]
jborkl but we [18:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-] [18:53]
ZedsterX i thought most ppl in the this game were better than that and i don't know squat [18:53]
ZedsterX I will ride it for another month see what happens [18:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74998 BTC [+] [18:53]
Troic any body have any clues/ideas on the further development that EV was hinting about ? [18:53]
ZedsterX he has been talking new interface for 2 months [18:54]
mircea_popescu Troic nope. [18:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.481 = 1.443 BTC [-] [18:55]
jborkl I would imagine it has to do with return bet amounts and compression/reducing bloat [18:55]
Troic '(and this will be more relevant due to other developments we have in mind...).' is suppose 'in mind' is not in the works [18:55]
smickles Bugpowdurr: there is more too the calc for the number of puts than just strike/spot ! [18:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 51 @ 0.48 = 24.48 BTC [-] [18:56]
jborkl and you have to remember, for every seller of SDICE- there is a buyer on the other side [18:56]
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ThickAsThieves again, no love for MP http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/1/4154500/mt-gox-barons-of-bitcoin [19:09]
ThickAsThieves i tried emailing them for you MP, I did! [19:09]
ThickAsThieves almost had an interview set up for ya, but they said your diff futures made no sense and lol'd me away [19:10]
ThickAsThieves ;) [19:11]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yeah, i care deeply about the knitting circle. [19:13]
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smickles ThickAsThieves> $avgpc << $avg [19:14]
microhxo Is coinbase down for purchasing coins right now? [19:14]
smickles oh, i see now you figured itout [19:14]
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microhxo Anyone having trouble with coinbase? [19:16]
deadweasel coinbase is fucked. [19:17]
deadweasel move your coins ASAP and find another avenue for purchase/sell [19:18]
microhxo Any recommendations ? [19:18]
DeaDTerra Starcraft two tournament with Bitcoin prize pool starts in 42 Minutes. [19:18]
DeaDTerra Join us at sc2btc.com :D [19:18]
deadweasel I'll defer to others on that microhxo.. I haven't bought in a while. Try getting verified on btcquick.com [19:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.74 = 4.44 BTC [-] [19:19]
thestringpuller MP I have interview with CNN Online for you. [19:19]
thestringpuller I know you hate them. [19:19]
ChaangNoi dont use gox... [19:20]
ThickAsThieves smickles, i just searched for the last time you made the command :) [19:20]
mircea_popescu microhxo where are you based ? [19:21]
microhxo USA [19:21]
thestringpuller Bugpowdurr: being a bio man, I would think you would program elaborate trading bots... [19:21]
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ThickAsThieves mp, i was only joking on that link because while you dont care about the knitting circle, you are indeed looking for press nonetheless right? [19:21]
microhxo coinbase worked fine for me, was quick too but my friend wants to buy some and it says they dont have any more coins atm. [19:21]
thestringpuller coinbase never has enough coins [19:22]
microhxo whats wrong with gox? [19:22]
thestringpuller they only buy based on user demand [19:22]
thestringpuller that way they never lose money [19:22]
microhxo It seems like ALL sites have no coins right now. [19:22]
microhxo even btcquick is sold out... [19:22]
thestringpuller there will be another buy spree [19:23]
smickles DeaDTerra: liquid is involved in it? [19:23]
thestringpuller when the companies buy coins [19:23]
smickles or just one of their players? [19:23]
microhxo So for USA [19:23]
microhxo what is the goto site to buy bitcoins? [19:23]
thestringpuller campbx [19:23]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves sure. [19:23]
Bugpowdurr thestringpuller: I have a MATLAB based mpex bot [19:24]
Bugpowdurr but, not using right now [19:24]
thestringpuller That's sexy. [19:24]
mircea_popescu microhxo USA is a little iffy, might want to give otc a try tho [19:24]
thestringpuller Take dat girl and parallelize her in CUDA [19:24]
microhxo otc? [19:24]
thestringpuller Bugpowdurr: ever seen libjacket? [19:24]
Bugpowdurr The 10% of capital in calls and the rest in cold storage plan is working well. [19:24]
Bugpowdurr nah I am not a real programmer [19:24]
Bugpowdurr only matlab [19:24]
Bugpowdurr ;;bids 0 [19:25]
gribble There are currently 51593462 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10104543.0415 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0097 seconds [19:25]
deadweasel whoa [19:25]
Bugpowdurr yeah boyeee [19:25]
Bugpowdurr 1.01 [19:26]
Bugpowdurr 10.1 [19:26]
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mircea_popescu microhxo yes, otc stands for over the counter. there's this system of trading btc with other parties, based on the wot [19:26]
mircea_popescu (web of trust) [19:26]
mircea_popescu it has a number of advantages but takes a little work. [19:26]
microhxo sounds risky.. [19:26]
Bugpowdurr 110 could be in play today [19:26]
mircea_popescu it may be, at least to begin with. [19:26]
microhxo Also I can only pay with paypal on that. No way am i giving bank acct info out. And i know no one wants to accept paypal because its reversible. [19:27]
mircea_popescu a yes. [19:27]
mircea_popescu mtgox takes pp ?! [19:27]
microhxo Dont believe so [19:27]
mircea_popescu o i see what you mean. [19:27]
deadweasel microhxo: manage your risk. You will always have risk with BTC (or USD) [19:27]
mircea_popescu yeah, in the us you're probably stuck with mtgox [19:27]
mircea_popescu as a retail buyer [19:27]
microhxo yea [19:27]
Bugpowdurr localbitcoins is great if you are in a major metro area [19:28]
mircea_popescu or that yea [19:28]
mircea_popescu meet some hawt chick in a restaurant [19:28]
deadweasel or keep hammering coinbase, they have a rolling 24 hr limit which could reset at any moment. You can check them hourly and try to buy... but that is just lame. [19:28]
mircea_popescu (if localbitcoins had any clue they'd do that) [19:28]
thestringpuller There are currently 51593462 bitcoins demanded <- More bitcoins are demanded than will ever exist, thus circulation? [19:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.584885 = 9.943 BTC [+] [19:31]
mircea_popescu 5mn ? [19:31]
jurov that's 51m [19:32]
thestringpuller yup [19:32]
mircea_popescu a ok [19:32]
thestringpuller 51mn bitcoins are currently demanded. [19:32]
thestringpuller So the price has to go up... [19:32]
jurov that are just buyers expectations [19:32]
mircea_popescu well im guessing some of the bids won't get filled. [19:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [+] [19:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3962 = 0.7924 BTC [-] [19:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.396 = 1.188 BTC [-] [19:33]
thestringpuller sure [19:33]
saulimus some won't buy if it doesn't come down to $2... [19:33]
Bugpowdurr the number of bitcoins demanded is irrelevant [19:33]
Lyspooner i demand that many bitcoins for .00001 USD [19:33]
Bugpowdurr the total $ demanded is [19:33]
thestringpuller Bugpowdurr: how so? [19:33]
thestringpuller oh total $ demanded [19:33]
Bugpowdurr just focus on the total $ demanded. That represents actual funded bids on gox. [19:33]
benkay microhxo look into dwolla [19:33]
mircea_popescu Bugpowdurr wait. [19:33]
Bugpowdurr highest I have seen is $10.4MM [19:33]
mircea_popescu o nm [19:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000645 BTC [+] [19:34]
microhxo Thanks, ill check em out [19:34]
thestringpuller do you still have any S.DICE? [19:34]
thestringpuller or did you empty out [19:34]
benkay microhxo it can be slow to get money in but people love it [19:34]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [19:34]
gribble 62669.1151321 [19:34]
microhxo How long from start to finish to buy a bitcoin? [19:34]
microhxo pending is fine but [19:34]
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microhxo as long as he can get in today [19:34]
thestringpuller I'll sell him some [19:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 81 @ 0.74 = 59.94 BTC [-] [19:35]
thestringpuller but I will only take moneypaks [19:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.74998 = 5.9998 BTC [+] [19:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.74999 = 7.4999 BTC [+] [19:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.749999 = 2.25 BTC [+] [19:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 77 @ 0.75 = 57.75 BTC [+] [19:35]
thestringpuller microhxo: is that doable? [19:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.75 = 7.5 BTC [+] [19:35]
mircea_popescu microhxo coinbase takes about a month or some shit. [19:35]
microhxo He just got 1 bitcoin on coinbase lol [19:35]
microhxo so he is "in the game" [19:35]
thestringpuller okay so he doesn't need coin no more? [19:36]
benkay microhxo don't fuck with coinbase [19:36]
benkay they're not grownups. [19:36]
kakobrekla 15:13.32 ( KRS1 ) wtf yes sell all btc asap < trolling the ltc king [19:36]
microhxo well, im already .5 btc into coin base so once I get that I can transfer to another service. [19:36]
benkay took 3 hours to get my friends coins out of there [19:36]
microhxo just seemed the most convenient [19:36]
benkay NOT pro. [19:36]
benkay yeah [19:36]
Bugpowdurr coinbase is n00bbase [19:36]
benkay the triangle is trust, speed, price [19:36]
benkay pick 2 [19:37]
thestringpuller microhxo: do you need coin? [19:37]
TomServo mircea_popescu: what were you saying localbitcoins should do? [19:37]
Bugpowdurr mtgox has all 3 if you are already verified [19:37]
mircea_popescu benkay not really. if you're on otc it's pretty much max trust insta speed best price. [19:37]
mircea_popescu TomServo they should hire a dozen strippers in the main towns at 100 an hour or whatever [19:37]
microhxo thestringpuller: Not right now. Im only testing bitcoins. Dont want to put a lot in yet. [19:37]
microhxo thanks though. [19:37]
mircea_popescu havwe them go to sell ? buy btc [19:37]
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microhxo mtgox i heard was slow? [19:37]
thestringpuller microhxo: I just don't want anyone who needs coin to have to miss out on trades because services are down [19:38]
Bugpowdurr only if you are new [19:38]
benkay mircea_popescu: i never see advertisements for less than 7% above mkt [19:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.76 = 7.6 BTC [+] [19:38]
Bugpowdurr I sell for 3% over market on localbitcoins [19:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+] [19:38]
microhxo thestringpuller: yea i hear you. [19:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 29 @ 0.76 = 22.04 BTC [+] [19:38]
Bugpowdurr 3% over market yesterday, is 10% under market today [19:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.76 = 5.32 BTC [+] [19:39]
TomServo Bugpowdurr: what's the interest level like? [19:39]
thestringpuller oh wow [19:39]
thestringpuller Bitcoin might start supporting a legit economy soon at these prices... [19:39]
Bugpowdurr high [19:39]
Bugpowdurr I think I get most of the business in my area [19:40]
Bugpowdurr have had 3 different buyers [19:40]
Bugpowdurr one is a regular [19:40]
Bugpowdurr I suspect he is dealing coins at school [19:40]
kakobrekla sometimes kids dealed drugs [19:40]
kakobrekla now they deal coins [19:40]
kakobrekla and get drugs of SR [19:40]
kakobrekla works. [19:41]
benkay better system. [19:41]
TomServo Bugpowdurr: do your ads reference your OTC info? [19:41]
Bugpowdurr yes [19:41]
thestringpuller Bugpowdurr: I suspect he is dealing coins at school << so he is dealing them for drugs? [19:42]
Bugpowdurr I don't think so, I think he is just trying to make a profit [19:42]
Bugpowdurr probably can sell for 20% over market [19:42]
Bugpowdurr plus the rising price [19:42]
mircea_popescu yeah, brcause of all the "protective" regulation [19:42]
mircea_popescu kids cant' get btc. [19:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.0006 = 2.61 BTC [-] [19:43]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: fo realz? [19:43]
thestringpuller that sounds like a good business right there, btc for children [19:43]
thestringpuller btc kids meals [19:43]
mircea_popescu well how ? they get registered with mtgox ? [19:43]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: Bitinstant [19:43]
smickles violates copa [19:43]
mircea_popescu a that's a thought. [19:43]
thestringpuller or Ziggap [19:44]
thestringpuller Or why not OTC [19:44]
thestringpuller danieldaniel bought coins from me by buying me hitman [19:44]
smickles 'merican companies can't collect information on kids [19:44]
thestringpuller as smickles could attest to [19:44]
ThickAsThieves surprised this made it onto the Verge, looks like they're becoming btc fans... http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/31/4168542/listen-to-bitcoin-in-real-time [19:44]
smickles so they just don't do business with them, often times [19:44]
thestringpuller i would think kids would have an easier time with "no regulation" if they came into bitcoin wealth [19:44]
thestringpuller they don't have to legally pay taxes non? [19:45]
thestringpuller that is if they are enrolled [19:45]
smickles thestringpuller: they do have to pay taxes [19:45]
smickles via parents [19:45]
thestringpuller but you get it all refunded [19:45]
thestringpuller non? [19:45]
Bugpowdurr only if you don't make much [19:45]
Bugpowdurr same tax rates apply [19:45]
Bugpowdurr 18 year olds usually don't have much gross income though [19:46]
thestringpuller Hmm. I guess kids may have it harder after all... [19:46]
smickles if your under age kids make money, it's your income [19:46]
mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGx8EptCYAAgj5K.jpg:large [19:46]
mircea_popescu pic related. [19:46]
Bugpowdurr That's not how it worked for me when I was 17 [19:46]
smickles Bugpowdurr: i learned personal income tax in 2009, so it may have been different [19:47]
Bugpowdurr iirc if you are claimed as a dependent, you cannot take your personal exemption, but your income is still taxed as your own income. But there may be multiple ways to skin that cat. [19:48]
jborkl 17 you are a adult in the US, pretty sure [19:48]
Bugpowdurr ah no [19:48]
Bugpowdurr 18 [19:48]
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jborkl well, taxes not 100% sure- you can be tried as a adult at 17 [19:49]
Bugpowdurr default is tried as a juviy at 18 [19:49]
Bugpowdurr if you did something very bad they can roll you up to adult for criminal prosecution [19:49]
Bugpowdurr I don't think we are gonna see $110 today. [19:50]
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smickles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oozQe2Bk2cA [19:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0038 = 3.8 BTC [+] [19:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0038 = 3.8 BTC [+] [19:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00371 = 11.13 BTC [-] [19:57]
mod6 hmm only 500 nodes connected today? [20:03]
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Garr255 !help [20:06]
assbot List of commands: [20:06]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} [20:06]
assbot !last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} [20:06]
assbot !mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) [20:06]
assbot !rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} [20:06]
assbot !exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} [20:06]
Garr255 !ticker btct cognitive [20:06]
assbot [BTCT:COGNITIVE] 1D: 0.157 / 0.23616 / 0.2899 (59 shares, 13.9 BTC), 7D: 0.108 / 0.14794 / 0.2899 (414 shares, 61.2 BTC), 30D: 0.1012 / 0.17401 / 0.3 (930 shares, 161.8 BTC) [20:06]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 83 @ 0.000611 = 0.0507 BTC [-] [20:08]
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mircea_popescu mod6 kinda concerning, yes. [20:11]
Bugpowdurr seems like too round a number [20:13]
bitesak ;;ticker [20:13]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.21741, Best ask: 102.54042, Bid-ask spread: 0.32301, Last trade: 102.21740, 24 hour volume: 79604.66694827, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.01342 [20:14]
mircea_popescu at the rate nodes have been decreasing (60k two years ago, 30k a year ago, 10k recently, <1k by now) [20:14]
mircea_popescu it seems this is rapidly becoming bitcoin's chief point of failure. [20:14]
kakobrekla blockchain to big [20:14]
kakobrekla too [20:14]
mircea_popescu yes but as we get into the hundreds we're markedly less decentralised than visa. [20:14]
kakobrekla i run ~5 full nodes myself [20:15]
jborkl 4 here [20:15]
mircea_popescu bitcoind ? [20:15]
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kakobrekla yes [20:15]
jborkl yes [20:15]
mircea_popescu what vers ? [20:15]
jborkl .81 [20:15]
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mircea_popescu (if you don't mund my curioisuty( [20:15]
kakobrekla 0.7 - 0.8 [20:15]
jborkl .81 is very fast compared [20:15]
jborkl to .7x [20:15]
mircea_popescu aha [20:15]
jborkl from what I understand it will use all cores [20:15]
kakobrekla ya but avg folks need a week to sync [20:15]
kakobrekla or something [20:16]
jborkl true [20:16]
kakobrekla which is death [20:16]
mircea_popescu ridiculous. even on .81 ?! [20:16]
jborkl well, .81 it goes much faster [20:16]
kakobrekla yea esp if not running 24/7 [20:16]
jborkl I keep multiple copies, so I don't know anymore [20:16]
jborkl but last time it took 2 dayd [20:16]
mircea_popescu so 2% of active nodes is you two. [20:16]
kakobrekla i know people have been using electrun and such [20:17]
mircea_popescu scary shit. [20:17]
jborkl lol, I guess so [20:17]
kakobrekla that uses one server side bitcoind [20:17]
kakobrekla and ppl connect to that [20:17]
jborkl I have about 200 connections on those 4 [20:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16384 @ 0.00060656 = 9.9379 BTC [+] [20:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2616 @ 0.00060809 = 1.5908 BTC [+] [20:18]
mircea_popescu fucking hell. [20:18]
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mircea_popescu so my very expensive 15800 hdd just went [20:18]
mircea_popescu retjhweriughieh [20:18]
mircea_popescu and is now dead ;/ [20:18]
kakobrekla uh? [20:18]
smickles :o [20:18]
mircea_popescu WHO HERE DID IT [20:18]
kakobrekla you shouldnt have downloaded my cupcakes [20:19]
Bugpowdurr I just don't believe that there are only 500 nodes [20:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [+] [20:19]
mircea_popescu ;/ [20:19]
jborkl well, people that did not upgrade to .81 or change the locks - I am guessing will no longer show up on nodes [20:20]
smickles that's just blockchain. they might now limit to 500 [20:20]
Bugpowdurr yeah [20:20]
Bugpowdurr that's what I bet is going on [20:20]
mircea_popescu smickles now that's a theory. [20:20]
mircea_popescu jborkl there'd be no way to knopw as a peer [20:20]
kakobrekla ouch; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146611.120;topicseen [20:21]
kakobrekla another round. [20:21]
kakobrekla this stupid people and money parting is taking too long! [20:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00398999 = 3.3915 BTC [+] [20:22]
jurov who reports 500 nodes? blockchain.info? [20:22]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla werd brotyher. [20:23]
smickles yup [20:23]
jborkl 497, but I know a few wekks ago it was 1900 [20:23]
mircea_popescu two months ago it was like 8-9000 [20:23]
benkay "Once again, I get scammed." [20:23]
jurov cuz i have 90 connections now and none of them is blockchain.info (it sees my txs as arriving from around the world) [20:23]
jurov so think it's wildly inaccurate [20:24]
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mircea_popescu any of you folks running multiple nodes willing to do a node mapping project ? [20:24]
smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1700671#msg1700671 << lol [20:24]
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podizzle hey [20:25]
mircea_popescu hello [20:25]
jborkl Sure [20:25]
mod6 yeah, i guess blockchain.info sometimes loses its wallet connections and takes a bit to reconnect to other nodes. [20:26]
mircea_popescu jborkl let me know! [20:26]
podizzle how long does it take for bets to show max [20:26]
mod6 just was curious. thx :) [20:26]
therusytrombone how was the outcome of the avalon bet yes [20:26]
podizzle i know btc can be slow ass hell sometimes [20:26]
therusytrombone they did not deliver half of their pre-orders lol [20:26]
mircea_popescu podizzle what bets, what max ? [20:26]
therusytrombone such bullshit lmao [20:26]
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mircea_popescu therusytrombone how you judge ? [20:26]
jborkl ok, I am going to go to lunch them I will let you know, shouldnt take too long [20:27]
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therusytrombone at the time that statement was made, there were two batches for pre-order [20:27]
podizzle 16yhNwTB4wxSjbJu8Ev3TantqYyn6AEUcJ [20:27]
therusytrombone so you would have to guess or assume that the statement meant only batch one? [20:27]
therusytrombone if you go by the timing, batch 1 and 2 were already in [20:27]
mircea_popescu yeah. it's been widely discussed here / in the comments there too [20:27]
therusytrombone it doesnt make sense [20:27]
therusytrombone are you supposed to bet on how the statement is written [20:27]
therusytrombone or how it was supposed to be interpreted? [20:27]
mircea_popescu you are, yes. [20:27]
therusytrombone so by how it was written, and the date it was created, the outcome should be No [20:28]
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mircea_popescu any written text has the problem of reading. this is why there exist courts irl. [20:28]
podizzle i think bitbet has lots of potential but 30btc to buy shares damn [20:28]
mircea_popescu a reading including batch two is nonsensical as batch two wasn't even slated for delivery till apr 5 [20:28]
therusytrombone i'm starting to think the site is kinda rigged [20:28]
smickles podizzle: find a broker [20:28]
podizzle this bfl talk haunts me wherever i go [20:28]
mircea_popescu podizzle you can use ppl like coinbr [20:28]
mircea_popescu or the passthroughs [20:28]
therusytrombone it doesnt matter, it was written that they will deliver 1/2 of their pre-orders [20:29]
therusytrombone nothing about batches [20:29]
podizzle i see thanks for the info [20:29]
therusytrombone and on that date, they had two batches [20:29]
therusytrombone so by what you are saying, it should have been a bad bed [20:29]
therusytrombone who owns that site, anyway? [20:29]
mircea_popescu well, apparently your reading of the text doesn't match the admin's and the majority of bettor's/commenter's etc reading thereof. [20:29]
mircea_popescu it happens. [20:29]
therusytrombone what a knee-jerk reaction to call that a Yes [20:29]
therusytrombone scam'd [20:29]
therusytrombone read the statement. read the date. how can you infer any other way? [20:30]
smickles therusytrombone: can you link me :) [20:30]
therusytrombone http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ [20:30]
kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ [20:30]
therusytrombone pre-orders mean pre-orders, there is no mention of batches [20:30]
mircea_popescu well, i read it the following way : the bet can't be about some corp delivering before april 1st items it promised to deliver starting april 5th [20:30]
therusytrombone that's inferring past what's written [20:30]
therusytrombone i understand that point [20:30]
mircea_popescu no text carries its meaning inside. [20:31]
therusytrombone but then you are betting on what the creator meant but not what is written [20:31]
mircea_popescu all text is interpreted. [20:31]
therusytrombone and that's a bad bet by the rules [20:31]
podizzle is this a bitbet site ? [20:31]
podizzle channel [20:31]
mircea_popescu podizzle nope. [20:31]
podizzle wtf [20:31]
podizzle lol [20:31]
smickles podizzle: we do go off topic from time to time [20:31]
mircea_popescu therusytrombone if you take a strong nominalist view NOTHING is ever definitively provable [20:32]
smickles podizzle: also, if you don't like naked people, be weary of clicking on a link from mircea_popescu [20:32]
error4733 ;;ticker [20:32]
mircea_popescu and thus no bets are acceptable. [20:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.51002, Best ask: 102.99990, Bid-ask spread: 0.48988, Last trade: 102.51000, 24 hour volume: 80196.49123987, 24 hour low: 91.00000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.06018 [20:32]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136483017480.jpg [20:32]
smickles mircea_popescu: radical skepticism ftw ! [20:32]
therusytrombone it says half of preorders [20:32]
therusytrombone they had two batches of preorders in at that time [20:33]
therusytrombone refute that. [20:33]
mircea_popescu well ok, perfectly valid phylosophically but how the fuck will you run a site with it,. [20:33]
jborkl network hash rate about a month ago was 24th now, 64th - asicminer has only claimed maybe 10 th- the rest has to be (in a logical conclusion) = Avalon [20:33]
therusytrombone they did not deliver 450 devices [20:33]
podizzle i made my withdrawal to bitbet at 12:48pm [20:33]
therusytrombone it's ok it's just good to know a site is a scam and not to use it [20:33]
podizzle still nothing am i being impatient [20:33]
mircea_popescu therusytrombone if you bet on the losing side i imagine it'd have been a lot more beneficial to argue this afore betting. [20:33]
therusytrombone people write crazy vague statements and expect people to infer what they meant [20:34]
smickles jborkl: no, the rest is AMD, it's how they are still in business [20:34]
mircea_popescu podizzle if you included no fee a tx can take 2 days. [20:34]
therusytrombone like, really? [20:34]
jborkl LOL, smickles good one [20:34]
podizzle mircea_popescu how much is the fee [20:34]
smickles $unconfirmed [20:34]
mpexbot smickles: 839 [20:34]
mircea_popescu 0.0005 works for most people. mpex includes 0.001 on al txs [20:34]
mircea_popescu a few cents is a nice gesture to support the entire network. [20:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.4199 = 2.9393 BTC [+] [20:35]
therusytrombone lol how could you ever read that statement and not think it means all of the preorders they have in at the time [20:35]
podizzle oh damn but i will be put in at the weight it was when i sent or when i clicked [20:35]
therusytrombone SCAM [20:35]
therusytrombone lmao [20:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.0006 = 4.9764 BTC [-] [20:35]
mircea_popescu podizzle when the bet makes it . [20:35]
podizzle ok [20:35]
podizzle thats a little scary but ok [20:35]
mircea_popescu therusytrombone im sure avalon said something on the forum about a future batch to be delivered in 2014 [20:35]
mircea_popescu why not extend to anything they ever mentioned ffs. [20:35]
therusytrombone at the time the statement was created, they had two preorder batches in [20:36]
therusytrombone you keep dancing around my fact [20:36]
therusytrombone facts [20:36]
mircea_popescu except one wasn't slated for delivery by that date [20:36]
therusytrombone with crazy statements [20:36]
therusytrombone the creator of the statement [20:36]
therusytrombone in the comments [20:36]
therusytrombone even says that he put in batch 1 [20:36]
mircea_popescu listen. if you pick some facts you can support any pov/claim any other is insane/vague/we [20:36]
therusytrombone and it was left out [20:36]
therusytrombone so....? [20:36]
therusytrombone intentionally vague [20:36]
therusytrombone site is a scam [20:36]
podizzle mircea_popescu so if the bet isnt made by resolved then it will be a refund? [20:36]
podizzle or if the bet isnt made by closed [20:36]
mircea_popescu if the bet doesn't make it before bet is closed then it's a donation. [20:36]
therusytrombone don't use bitbets, it's a scam [20:37]
therusytrombone lock'd [20:37]
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mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/faq/#15 [20:37]
mircea_popescu therusytrombone it just works a certain way. [20:37]
therusytrombone the fact that the creator of the statement even admitted that part of it got left out [20:37]
therusytrombone should have been a bad bet at minimum [20:37]
therusytrombone joke site [20:37]
mod6 <3 bitbet [20:37]
mircea_popescu something's not a scam because it works otherwise than you think it should. [20:37]
therusytrombone if you read the statement [20:38]
therusytrombone and look at the date it was created [20:38]
mod6 won some off the basketball games this weekend! [20:38]
therusytrombone there are two preorder batcxhes [20:38]
therusytrombone you have not refuted that [20:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+] [20:38]
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podizzle let me ask again [20:38]
podizzle what about a bet where i sent money during open betting but is not placed before betting is closed. donation or refund [20:39]
mircea_popescu therusytrombone one of the batches you count was not supposed to start delivery until after the bet closes. [20:39]
jborkl i think smickles is right and blockchain info is reporting 500 max [20:39]
therusytrombone but it didn't say that [20:39]
therusytrombone it said all preoders [20:39]
mircea_popescu this is your refutation. now, whether you take it in or ingore it is up to you, but it stands. [20:39]
therusytrombone there were two batches for preorder [20:39]
therusytrombone PLEASE refute that [20:39]
therusytrombone you havent [20:40]
therusytrombone because you are a joke [20:40]
mircea_popescu mkay. [20:40]
therusytrombone just like bitbet [20:40]
therusytrombone lmao [20:40]
podizzle lol [20:40]
mircea_popescu podizzle donation. [20:40]
therusytrombone it stands in your tiny mind [20:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5051 @ 0.00060809 = 3.0715 BTC [+] [20:40]
jborkl still looking , but I am seeing a bunch not on the blockchain list [20:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4367 @ 0.00060871 = 2.6582 BTC [+] [20:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00061276 = 1.777 BTC [+] [20:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2932 @ 0.00061415 = 1.8007 BTC [+] [20:40]
mircea_popescu and this seems the perfect time to announce the shocker of march results of bitbet. here goes : [20:40]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-march-2013-statement/ [20:40]
therusytrombone 1) create an intentionally vague statement [20:40]
therusytrombone 2) wait for heavy betting action on one side [20:40]
mircea_popescu therusytrombone if a statement doesn't please you, why bet ?! [20:40]
therusytrombone 3) have your judge/moderator friend tell you how he'll rule [20:41]
therusytrombone 4) bet on that side [20:41]
therusytrombone 5) profit [20:41]
therusytrombone ez game [20:41]
therusytrombone bitbet confirmed scam [20:41]
jborkl nice profits, very good for the second month? [20:41]
mircea_popescu jborkl 3rd month [20:41]
kakobrekla 3rd [20:41]
mircea_popescu unless i'm crazy first was jan ? a ok [20:41]
jborkl oh ok, well still very nice [20:41]
mircea_popescu but yea it went up a lot. [20:41]
mircea_popescu anyway, one measure we're taking is having a special mod tag on the comments so that mod can clarify how they'll judge statements if need be. [20:43]
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error4733 to all paranoid : http://www.joshianlindsay.com/index.php?id=126 [20:43]
mircea_popescu and re the late bets : it is in general not nice to include txs with no fees. it is callous, miners work at this, buitcoin needs the fees to survive. [20:43]
mircea_popescu in the case of bitbet it is outright dangerous, so not worth it. [20:43]
mircea_popescu a small fee to the tune of a few cents ensures next-block inclusion for pretty much all txs [20:44]
podizzle mircea ok [20:44]
mod6 mircea_popescu: nice results on s.bbet for march! [20:44]
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mircea_popescu now, i understand this is not necessarily expected bejhaviour / can gotcha. i'm sorry for it but there's no practical way out. [20:44]
podizzle my bet went through haha yeaaaaaaaaaah! [20:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.44969999 = 1.3491 BTC [+] [20:46]
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podizzle i dont understand how would i make a donation if any transfer is counted as a bet should i make it 1.005 and its assumed the .005 is a tip? [20:48]
mircea_popescu podizzle if you use the stock client there's a menu to fix tx fee. [20:48]
mircea_popescu settings or options or something [20:48]
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mircea_popescu error4733 http://www.joshianlindsay.com/images/205.jpg ahaha [20:49]
DeaDTerra Starcraft 2 bitcoin tourmanent, Join us over at sc2btc.com/play! Free to play sit and go tournament :D [20:50]
mircea_popescu haha now that's an idea [20:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1021 @ 0.00380001 = 3.8798 BTC [-] [20:51]
smickles now this is handy [20:53]
smickles $unconfirmed [20:53]
mpexbot smickles: 663 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-03-30 16:07:38 [20:53]
mircea_popescu nice [20:54]
mircea_popescu mpexbot is becoming like a maven [20:54]
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mircea_popescu $help [20:54]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: (help [ ] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [20:54]
smickles $list [20:54]
mircea_popescu listen you ttoally gotta populate that. [20:54]
mpexbot smickles: Admin, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, Services, SupyMPEx, and User [20:54]
mircea_popescu a nm! [20:54]
smickles and I do need to put in a couple docstrings [20:54]
mircea_popescu now if only i can remember list [20:54]
smickles $list SupyMPEx [20:55]
mpexbot smickles: avg, depth, email, moo, mpexlag, post, proxies, unconfirmed, and vwap [20:55]
mircea_popescu aha [20:55]
mircea_popescu can you redirect $help to $list supympex ? [20:55]
mircea_popescu $email [20:55]
smickles nanotube: ^ help :) [20:55]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: No new messages received. [20:55]
mircea_popescu and also add the leading $ and say somethinc like "Available commands : " [20:56]
mircea_popescu $vwap ^oix [20:56]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 100.30864847 high: 132.25174812 low: 86.04499804 volume: 9075 btc: 4482.82710187 30 day: no data [20:56]
mircea_popescu whoa nelly. [20:56]
smickles 132, not bad [20:57]
smickles $commands [20:57]
smickles hmm [20:57]
mircea_popescu $buttsex [20:58]
smickles ah, mircea_popescu do you remember that assbot pic? [20:58]
mircea_popescu notrly ? [20:58]
smickles well, nvm. [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6690 @ 0.0006 = 4.014 BTC [-] [20:59]
smickles 6!??! [20:59]
mircea_popescu end of world. [21:00]
smickles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU3g7XFCZFw [21:00]
mod6 it's been landing on .0006 a few times in the last number of days [21:00]
mod6 ups and downs [21:01]
mod6 no worries [21:01]
mircea_popescu as btc went from 20 to 100 s.dice lost like what, 50-60% ? [21:01]
mircea_popescu s.mpoe lost about 20% i think [21:01]
podizzle satoshi dice lost why would it lose [21:02]
mircea_popescu oddly enough this could be said to make sone sense [21:02]
mircea_popescu podizzle well would you prefer "shed" ? [21:02]
podizzle no i mean the underlying reasons why [21:02]
smickles i prefer "two sheds" [21:02]
smickles ;D [21:02]
mircea_popescu well there's this theory that people wil lbet less btc [21:02]
podizzle because its too valued [21:03]
podizzle even a satoshi? [21:03]
mircea_popescu more generally, in fiat terms corp went from 15 to 50mn ? [21:03]
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mod6 yeah! and I like how after the march MPOE beatdown the statements are there in full glory - ugly or not. [21:10]
mod6 those were some HUGE numbers, but the reality of those statements to me adds some trust there. MPEx sailed through some massive attacks this past month too. [21:11]
mod6 Sail strong MPEx! [21:12]
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_aeon squirt [21:12]
smickles mod6: mpex is a scam and mircea_popescu is a greasy fraud [21:12]
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mod6 :P [21:12]
_aeon probably smickles [21:12]
ThickAsThieves you forgot to call him a gypsy [21:13]
_aeon judges in romania are like $500 [21:13]
mircea_popescu i say this, from the bottom of my heart : [21:14]
mircea_popescu buttseks. [21:14]
mod6 :> [21:14]
guruvan damn smickles I knew it. Now where am I gonna find a chum to sell my account to? [21:14]
smickles he's probably having buttsex right now, that pervert [21:14]
mircea_popescu no im not. too much effort [21:14]
mircea_popescu i got a fever ;/ [21:14]
_aeon i bet his finger is at least in a butt [21:14]
mod6 :( [21:14]
guruvan I'm sure of it - I heard that online somewhere [21:14]
smickles aw, get well soon mp [21:14]
mircea_popescu and the only prescription [21:14]
mircea_popescu the only cure [21:14]
mircea_popescu is more COWBELL [21:15]
guruvan hot from all that buttseks [21:15]
_aeon is whiskey [21:15]
mod6 always moar cowbell [21:15]
smickles lol [21:15]
mod6 m00 [21:15]
_aeon bourbon makes fever go away [21:15]
mircea_popescu anyway, it's breaking already. i am blessed with this bizzare trait whereby a cold stays with me for 6 hours if its really bad [21:15]
_aeon known. [21:15]
abracadabra Anduck arij asa1024 asciilifeform assbot Azelphur [21:15]
mircea_popescu who's _aeon anyway [21:15]
_aeon yo mamma [21:16]
smickles dunno, they sound cool tho [21:16]
mircea_popescu my mamma cvan't type that fast, [21:16]
mircea_popescu she works for the govt. [21:16]
_aeon dem gubments [21:16]
_aeon i'm noob [21:17]
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mircea_popescu no you're not, what noob has cloaks. [21:17]
_aeon paranoidmuch [21:17]
mircea_popescu just curious dood. [21:17]
_aeon muahahaha [21:17]
smickles lol, _aeon, your 14:12 -!- _aeon [~FUCKSUPA@unaffiliated/aeon/x-3095533] , funny [21:18]
mircea_popescu o its supa ?! [21:18]
mircea_popescu btw, anyone saw herodes' butthurt in forum over being neg'd ? [21:18]
_aeon that would be the farthest from the truth [21:18]
_aeon but let's run with it [21:18]
_aeon i'm wuzzywubing all over [21:18]
_aeon i like to read butthurt [21:19]
mircea_popescu on gibson. who the fuck connects on gibson [21:20]
mod6 mircea_popescu: i was sort of pissed supa ruined my perfect rating :/ [21:20]
mircea_popescu what's that like papua-new guiney [21:20]
pgp who runs bitcoinity? [21:20]
mod6 *shrug* [21:20]
mircea_popescu pgp a hungarian dood. [21:21]
mircea_popescu comboy [21:21]
_aeon dude i'm being stalked [21:21]
pgp the joker background is fun 'n all, but sure make looking at the charts hard on the eyes... [21:21]
_aeon stop you tickle [21:21]
mod6 i've never even talked to the guy... so that was kinda disappointing [21:21]
mircea_popescu mod6 i think he just spammed gribble ratings [21:21]
mod6 yeah, apparently he's trying to make some sort of point [21:22]
mircea_popescu ya. aka trolling. [21:22]
mircea_popescu so anybody been using the .8.1 exploded ruin of a codebase packaging at all ? [21:22]
mod6 *nod* [21:22]
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smickles http://youtu.be/zorZohh06w0?t=3m22s < lol [21:22]
_aeon ;;rated Supa [21:23]
gribble You rated user Supa on Thu Mar 28 11:20:54 2013, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: I AM RICK JAMES MOTHERFUCKER. [21:23]
mod6 i've got .7, but im still like 70 days behind. need to fire it up and let it catch up but it chokes my hd [21:23]
_aeon ;;unauth [21:23]
gribble Your GPG session has been terminated. [21:23]
mircea_popescu $grep "rick james" /xchatlogs/* [21:24]
_aeon goog luck [21:24]
tk993 !e [21:24]
mircea_popescu 1835 [21:24]
* _aeon mostly covered the tracks [21:24]
pgp a lot of crying going on over .8.1 on bitcoin-dev [21:24]
mircea_popescu ʎɐp ƃuıɹʇs ɯopuɐɹ ʎddɐɥ [21:25]
mircea_popescu pgp ya well the old pos doesn't work (as detailed in http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/ ) [21:25]
pgp looks almost greek ... almoost - lol [21:25]
mircea_popescu and the new pos i don't trust [21:25]
mircea_popescu fucking locked ;/ [21:25]
pgp ugh [21:26]
pgp here's one for BBET - bet on date that dev team releases 1.0 [21:27]
pgp Dec 31, 2018 is probably even money [21:27]
mircea_popescu heh. [21:28]
smickles time b/t 1.0 and 1.0.0.1? 1 day [21:28]
mircea_popescu well i'm the eternal optimist : they stfu with the "Developing" which they can't do because they can't code [21:28]
mircea_popescu start working testnet which is more adeuqate to their abilities [21:28]
mircea_popescu and then finally when 1.0 is released that's after a spec has been made [21:28]
mircea_popescu and so 1.0.0.1 being 1 day later doesn't quite have the cataclysmic implications. [21:29]
pgp like anything in life, it'll will require competent resources AND competent management... [21:30]
pgp a dash of vision / brilliance never hurts, either... [21:31]
ThickAsThieves $avg [21:31]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 97.68 [21:31]
bitesak ;;ticker [21:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.57701, Best ask: 102.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.32298, Last trade: 102.57701, 24 hour volume: 77591.58336552, 24 hour low: 91.75000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.56399 [21:32]
pgp it's great that miners get paid, but did satoshi ever think about getting the developers/stewards paid? [21:33]
pgp is that what the bitcoin foundation is for? [21:33]
_aeon aethero comes online [21:33]
* _aeon trolls harder [21:33]
mircea_popescu pgp i don't think the idea ever was for coders to be paid [21:34]
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mircea_popescu i'm not sayingthis is a good idea necessarily, but [21:34]
mircea_popescu if it is decentralised then the paying would be whoever hires them [21:34]
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jurov they should move to devcoin [21:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.2 = 2 BTC [+] [21:35]
pgp bitcoin will need adjustments down the road - how can we ensure that the best and brightest are attracted to the endeavor? [21:35]
_aeon derpfiend eh [21:35]
mircea_popescu anyway, if i query my crystal 8 ball what i see is each miner conglomerate having its own devteam. [21:35]
mircea_popescu the current troop is really sinking their future by not doing spec work now, while they still can [21:36]
mircea_popescu it WILL be done, but by miner negotiation, and they will be simply ignored. [21:36]
pgp i believe you are right... [21:36]
mircea_popescu yeah. the problem is they're cheeky kids [21:36]
mircea_popescu and won't mostly listen. [21:36]
pgp golden rule: he with the gold makes the rules... [21:36]
mircea_popescu cause you know, i'm evil and impolite and therefore the fact that i regularly see the future is moot. [21:37]
pgp sucks being a sith lord... [21:37]
_aeon use latinum bars [21:37]
mircea_popescu notrly. i get the butts. [21:37]
pgp lol [21:38]
pgp seriously, though - sometimes the conversation on bitcoin-dev seems like it's coming from Deep Space 9... [21:39]
mircea_popescu i can't go there. i get summaries (ocasionally) and even tho made by competent people they still piss me off. [21:39]
benkay can i subscribe to those summaries? [21:40]
mircea_popescu haha that might be an idea [21:41]
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pgp in any case, you're right about the mining oligarcy taking up the dev mantle eventually [21:41]
mircea_popescu i think so. [21:42]
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pgp seems like the natural outcome... [21:42]
mircea_popescu possibly some businesses might run their own clients. [21:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 80 @ 0.2 = 16 BTC [+] [21:42]
mircea_popescu s.dice might make one, like the s.dice desktop client. [21:42]
mircea_popescu probably valuable for things like slotmachines. [21:43]
mircea_popescu or bitpay if they had any sense (and resources, and etc) [21:43]
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pgp certainly room out there for "subchains" it seem to me... [21:44]
mircea_popescu that's a diff story. [21:44]
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benkay different topic: has anyone out there gotten kakobrekla's socket working? [21:45]
benkay and would be willing to give me some assist on thing? [21:45]
kakobrekla sure [21:45]
benkay o hai [21:45]
kakobrekla hi [21:45]
dub ;;ticker [21:46]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 103.00010, Best ask: 103.15689, Bid-ask spread: 0.15679, Last trade: 103.00010, 24 hour volume: 77774.07869393, 24 hour low: 92.05000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.58243 [21:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.76 = 9.88 BTC [+] [21:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [+] [21:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1622 BTC [-] [21:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16213 BTC [-] [21:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16212 BTC [-] [21:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.162 = 0.648 BTC [-] [21:47]
Derpfiend indeed aeon [21:49]
_aeon indeed [21:49]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.42 = 1.68 BTC [-] [21:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.36 = 1.08 BTC [-] [21:51]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-] [21:52]
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_aeon http://cloudsigma.com/en/about-us/press-releases/233 [21:57]
_aeon today announced that that its customers will now be able to benefit from fax access to their cloud servers. Complementing the existing SSH and VNC access, ‘remote desktop via fax’ provides users without internet connection the ability to view their cloud servers. [21:57]
_aeon “we are always listening to customers and they were clear, where is your fax access? For some VNC just isn’t performant enough. This new service is a world first for CloudSigma and the result of six months innovation. Customers can now remotely view their screens from anywhere in the world via fax. [21:58]
_aeon totally normal tiberiusiv [21:58]
_aeon happens on mondays [21:58]
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dub wats bitcoin central? [21:59]
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dub oh run by forum staff, was a scam anyway [22:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 9 @ 0.00479 = 0.0431 BTC [-] [22:02]
jborkl http://dpaste.com/1043267/ [22:02]
jborkl there are 3 bitcoind , i have to remote into the other and then I will also run data on them [22:02]
TomServo tiberiusiv: what's the deal? SP500 down... bitcoin up. :P [22:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 112 @ 0.0048 = 0.5376 BTC [+] [22:04]
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TomServo Obviously I did.. just giving you shit. [22:05]
dub ;;bids 100 [22:05]
gribble There are currently 5833.3713 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 588194.297707 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0040 seconds [22:05]
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mircea_popescu dub bitcoin-central is run by davout/buncha french gypsies. [22:06]
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mircea_popescu jborkl that's like 35 nodes tho. [22:07]
dub http://blockchain.info/address/1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy [22:09]
dub could be the mpoe loss is about to be surpassed [22:09]
jborkl I am getting more [22:10]
jborkl I will filter the info and pass it all along to you [22:10]
jborkl and I am pinging the other nodes to see who they are connected to [22:11]
_aeon bam [22:11]
ThickAsThieves dub what address is that for? [22:11]
mircea_popescu a contest ? [22:11]
mircea_popescu jborkl that's great! [22:11]
dub ThickAsThieves: nfi, could be the bitcoin central funds being stolen [22:11]
mircea_popescu o no wai ?! [22:12]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcoin-central.net/ [22:12]
mircea_popescu dafuck [22:12]
mircea_popescu you're right [22:12]
mircea_popescu Down for Maintenance [22:12]
mircea_popescu We have detected a security breach. Services are temporarily suspended until we have thoroughly investigated the situation. We will resume services as soon as possible. [22:12]
smickles ;;market --sell 200 [22:12]
gribble A market order to sell 200 bitcoins right now would net 20440.0587 USD and would take the last price down to 102.1210 USD, resulting in an average price of 102.2003 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 13.7545 seconds [22:12]
thestringpuller $avg [22:12]
mpexbot thestringpuller: 97.78 [22:12]
ThickAsThieves ouch [22:13]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99.94 [22:13]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 99.94 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.6836 seconds [22:13]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 100 [22:13]
gribble There are currently 5422.1666 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 546061.361605 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.5098 seconds [22:13]
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smickles ;;bids 10000000 [22:14]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 10000000.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 86.8850 seconds [22:14]
smickles well, that's optimism fer ya [22:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+] [22:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+] [22:20]
dub ;;market --sell 41854 [22:21]
gribble A market order to sell 41854 bitcoins right now would net 3873261.6016 USD and would take the last price down to 84.7522 USD, resulting in an average price of 92.5422 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds [22:21]
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pgp $4MM is a lot of money ... [22:23]
gribble A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7681678.7165 USD and would take the last price down to 40.6212 USD, resulting in an average price of 76.8168 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 44.2644 seconds [22:24]
thestringpuller ;;market --sell 50000 [22:25]
gribble A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 4539004.2120 USD and would take the last price down to 80.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 90.7801 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 73.6644 seconds [22:25]
pgp https://instawallet.org/ says the same thing - the two are related? [22:27]
mircea_popescu pgp yes [22:27]
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pgp are we watching a robbery in slow motion here or am I missing something? [22:28]
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mircea_popescu pretty much [22:29]
mircea_popescu either they are mentally retarded and thibnk this is a fun april 1st thing to do [22:29]
mircea_popescu or else they just got ficked. [22:29]
pgp but several blocks have been mined since then and not a single confirmation? [22:30]
mircea_popescu and .10 btc in fees [22:31]
mircea_popescu hmmm [22:31]
pgp looks odd to me... [22:31]
mircea_popescu maybe the blocks are somehow borkt ? [22:31]
mircea_popescu the tx i mean not blocks [22:31]
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_aeon instawallet fubar or they move it all the cold storage as defense mechanism [22:32]
mircea_popescu in general it's polite to say when you move large chunks like that [22:33]
mircea_popescu i know when i did it i got flooded with q's. [22:33]
mod6 We have detected a security breach. << this seems to be a scary thing though - despite it being April 1st. [22:34]
pgp but looks like it's being moved FROM cold storage... [22:34]
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mircea_popescu pgp yes... [22:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4365005 BTC [-] [22:35]
mod6 hmm. [22:35]
jurov http://blockchain.info/address/1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy [22:35]
jurov ^^mpoe-pr dug out, how? [22:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4365005 = 0.873 BTC [-] [22:36]
mircea_popescu she saw me saying [22:36]
mircea_popescu i was quoting dub [22:36]
kakobrekla yeah man i noticed some strange uncofirmed in my bitcoin, that explains it! [22:36]
ThickAsThieves how safe do you think blockchain wallet is? [22:37]
pgp not my coins, but man... just the thought of it makes my balls tingle with dread... [22:37]
mircea_popescu yeah. [22:37]
pgp prolly TMI... [22:37]
mircea_popescu wtf cold wallet is that anyway. [22:37]
mircea_popescu lukewarm wallet. [22:37]
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pgp hot wallet with a few ice cubes... [22:38]
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mod6 hmm. strange. maybe just someone fucked up? [22:41]
mircea_popescu yeah that's usually what it is. [22:41]
deadweasel whooops, accidentally sent all the cold storage to my own wallet... LATER! [22:42]
deadweasel my bad , i quit. [22:42]
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mod6 must just be some kinda joke [22:47]
mod6 nice guys though. i'll be sure to do business over there. not [22:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13441 @ 0.00060554 = 8.1391 BTC [+] [22:48]
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_aeon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_sensory_meridian_response [22:57]
_aeon who wants to talk about that or admit that it happens to you [22:58]
_aeon specifically, the head-rush tingling from music [22:58]
mod6 wut [22:58]
_aeon or someone touching your head or whispering [22:58]
_aeon i'm looking for data [22:58]
_aeon people who will admit that this happens to them [22:58]
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jurov _aeon: but why here? [23:03]
_aeon nm [23:03]
_aeon diareah of the hands [23:03]
_aeon *diarrhea [23:04]
jurov anyway it does happen to me, mostly when i realize some fubar situation [23:04]
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jurov and it's mostly on top of the head [23:05]
bitessak no wonder my 0.4BTC trsf from instawallet never materialized [23:06]
_aeon thanks [23:08]
_aeon it's nice to know i am not alone [23:08]
_aeon apparently it is something inducable [23:08]
_aeon which is what i'm most interested in now [23:08]
pgp that's right... akin to that "sinking feeling" [23:08]
_aeon this, for example [23:08]
_aeon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c_jOY89DVk&feature=youtu.be [23:08]
_aeon the marker on the paper noise does it somehow [23:09]
pgp maybe it's and empathetic response? [23:09]
Namworld aeon, why yes, I do have that happening. Back of the head. [23:09]
ll never happend with music, usualy when learning something for me [23:09]
_aeon i'm amzed that i have just learned this [23:09]
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benkay oh ho ho [23:10]
benkay http://blockchain.info/address/1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy [23:10]
pgp yeah - something is definately strange with this - has yet to confim at all - how could that be? [23:11]
benkay ;;tslb [23:11]
gribble Time since last block: 18 minutes and 17 seconds [23:11]
ThickAsThieves cnbc ticker says bitcoin at 4:40pm est [23:12]
ThickAsThieves on TV [23:13]
smickles eh? [23:13]
dub pgp: no fees? [23:14]
pgp c'mon [23:14]
pgp it's got .1 BTC actually [23:14]
dub otru [23:14]
_aeon cnbc butthurt [23:15]
_aeon cramer's boss makes him talk about bitcoin [23:15]
pgp cheapskates, if you asked me... [23:15]
mod6 yeah each of the tx's has .1 fee [23:15]
pgp 2013-04-01 17:44:51 [23:16]
pgp UTC I assume? [23:16]
dub I think actually transacting with bitcoin is pretty broken [23:16]
ThickAsThieves in 23min [23:17]
smickles $unconfirmed [23:17]
mpexbot smickles: 1313 unconfirmed transactions. Oldest dated: 2013-03-30 16:07:38 [23:17]
pgp wait a sec - doesn't the protocol permit the ability to book transactions in the future? [23:17]
smickles yup [23:17]
smickles and all other kind of fancy things [23:17]
smickles also, it could be malformed, or made in such a way that no miners will pick it up, no matter what [23:17]
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pgp april fools joke? [23:18]
smickles ^ [23:18]
mod6 its gotta be [23:19]
smickles most likely, considering the day [23:19]
mod6 haha, fuq [23:19]
smickles someone clever could do that with no fear [23:19]
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pgp fucked up, if you asked me... [23:19]
dub surely nobody is that stupid [23:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000639 = 0.0192 BTC [+] [23:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+] [23:20]
pgp any easy way to test parseability of transaction [23:20]
dub I mean, its bitcoin so stupid is implied, but.. [23:20]
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smickles pgp: ask about it in -dev [23:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 80 @ 0.000639 = 0.0511 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 115 @ 0.00158 = 0.1817 BTC [+] [23:21]
pgp got it... [23:21]
* smickles asked [23:22]
dub people already have [23:22]
smickles ah [23:22]
dub they are being -dev [23:22]
smickles so no answer [23:22]
dub and ignoring anything that makes them look like tards [23:22]
bitessak ;;ticker [23:23]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 102.77500, Best ask: 103.77000, Bid-ask spread: 0.99500, Last trade: 102.77500, 24 hour volume: 81434.36555095, 24 hour low: 92.05000, 24 hour high: 105.99000, 24 hour vwap: 98.97011 [23:23]
pgp pissing into the wind... [23:23]
smickles would blockchain.info show the fancy parts of the protocol? or bad sigs, hashes, stuff like that? [23:24]
smickles I mean, i could generate that tx, but my sig would be bad, but i could still broadcast it [23:24]
smickles gmaxwell pointed out that at his node they are orphaned [23:25]
dub I think he's talking to goonie? [23:25]
smickles dub: misfired hilight, he said [23:26]
smickles also, at least one of those txns is relayed by blockchain itself [23:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.0006 = 5.67 BTC [-] [23:28]
mircea_popescu and ignoring anything that makes them look like tards << this worked well for them so far. [23:30]
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Bugpowder AM I reading that right? instawallet got cleaned out of 41,000 BTC? [23:32]
mircea_popescu seems like it [23:32]
pgp Txns won't confirm, but look bad... [23:32]
smickles Bugpowder: but the tx hasn't confirmed for some reason [23:32]
Bugpowder forgot to send a fee? [23:33]
Bugpowder heh [23:33]
pgp .1 x 3 BTC [23:33]
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mircea_popescu no hue fee is thwere. [23:33]
jborkl I had a transaction get stuck the other day for 12 hours, send from bitcoind ... there was no reason at all [23:33]
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mod6 there is a .1 BTC fee on each of the two tx's: 996b0e98db80b20516313cd32920e7c8093a8a5bf1e1b1887747338a49052ce5 && 4cf56d0c1566778030095925328f4bc7ae988657bd62fe8bc05ac67302d32b4c [23:34]
pgp maybe I'm just new arround here, but this seems really unsettling to me... [23:34]
Bugpowder Instawallet Cold Storage... Well then.... Either its not actually cold storage or its an inside job [23:35]
smickles pgp: it's odd, to say the least [23:35]
smickles Bugpowder: or a sick april fools joke with cleverly malformed txns [23:35]
bitessak Bitcoin-Central and Paytunia update: Our customer's bitcoins and euros are safe and will not be affected by the security breach. We have taken the websites off-line for proper investigation. The address 1LrPYjto3hsLzWJNstghuwdrQXB96KbrCy is under our exclusive control. [23:35]
mod6 ^^^ [23:35]
mod6 as smickles said [23:35]
mircea_popescu is it possible they had the storage set up so you need multiple sigs [23:35]
bitessak dixit bitcoin-central.net [23:35]
mircea_popescu and the attacker sent the tx with insufficient signaturing ? [23:35]
mircea_popescu a nice then [23:36]
mod6 mircea_popescu: that could be! [23:36]
smickles bitessak: oooh... link :)? [23:36]
bitessak bitcoin-central.net [23:36]
mod6 Oh. i see. well that helps bitessak [23:36]
mircea_popescu mod6 could it ? [23:36]
mircea_popescu i dunno if i understand the protocol enough to say [23:36]
mod6 right, but if they had that set up, that would have been a clever safeguard [23:37]
dub except the coin isnt at that address.. [23:37]
mircea_popescu myeah. [23:38]
pgp ok - let's assume for a moment that the txn is valid and like jbork say, just might take sometime to pick up... If they have yet to confirm, couldn't you convievebly beg large mining pools to exclude the txn for a little while until the "community" could opine on it? [23:38]
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smickles if a sufficient % of the miners agreed to not include it, it wouldn't confirm (odds are) for a while [23:39]
smickles yes [23:39]
mircea_popescu pgp no. [23:39]
mircea_popescu that's such a huge breach of bitcoin security i don't even want to consider it. [23:39]
dub by no you mean, yes [23:40]
mircea_popescu i'd certainly blacklist any miner doing such rap [23:40]
smickles i think a lot of us would [23:40]
mircea_popescu crap* [23:40]
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dub and yet eligius has over a Th [23:40]
mircea_popescu sooooo ? [23:41]
pgp I understand, of course - just a thought experiment... [23:41]
dub deepbutt and guild have also helped luke with his shit or indicated willingness to do so in the past [23:41]
mircea_popescu that is currently the main avenue of govt attacking bitcoin [23:41]
dub although deepbutt is no longer a threat [23:41]
mircea_popescu and pretty much the only reason having miners chinese rather than american is good news. [23:41]
pgp lol [23:42]
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DeaDTerra WTS G.SDICE,GSDPT,G.MPOE,G.BBET, BTCQuick and TU.Silver shares! [23:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1327 @ 0.00380105 = 5.044 BTC [+] [23:43]
dub lol [23:43]
dub dump all teh scams [23:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00398997 = 5.985 BTC [+] [23:43]
smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bd1d1/i_think_i_just_lost_90btc_are_they_stolen_help/ << ouch [23:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 179 @ 0.00398997 = 0.7142 BTC [+] [23:44]
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mircea_popescu dub such a hater! [23:44]
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smickles suddup you gyp [23:44]
smickles (wow, that might look bad to someone who didn't see some of my conversations with tiberiusiv) [23:45]
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mircea_popescu lol [23:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000613 = 0.0736 BTC [-] [23:51]
Bugpowder it will look bad when these logs are read by the historians of bitcoin's formative years [23:51]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000612 = 0.0306 BTC [-] [23:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 330 @ 0.000611 = 0.2016 BTC [-] [23:52]
benkay some people don't care [23:53]
benkay chaangnoi for example shows up roaring drunk [23:53]
benkay i otoh probably thank people too much [23:54]
mircea_popescu also buttseks. [23:55]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159673.0;all [23:56]
mircea_popescu this thread is kinda funnay. [23:56]
ThickAsThieves the CNBC segment on bitcoin was ok [23:56]
Scrat ThickAsThieves: not really [23:57]
ThickAsThieves they had the guy from Expensify defending and some trader thug attacking [23:57]
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ThickAsThieves everyone said ignorant stuff [23:57]
Scrat too many buzzwords were thrown around [23:57]
Bugpowder its CNBS what do you expect? [23:58]
ThickAsThieves but what if COUNTERFEIT! [23:58]
Scrat motherfucking counterfeit bitcoins [23:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.002399 = 0.0072 BTC [-] [23:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 197 @ 0.002012 = 0.3964 BTC [-] [23:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [+] [23:59]
smickles woah, google indexing people's wallets [23:59]
mircea_popescu yeah srsly. [23:59]
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