The prosecution of sexual activity

Monday, 26 August, Year 5 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

The English speaking world has managed to paint itself into a corner of Puritan absurdity with its current legal treatment of sexual activity. This has to cease. Here's how things would work properly :

I. There is no such thing as the crime of "rape". Sexual relationships in and of themselves are natural, necessary and the one true measure of society generally and people individually. As such, they must be legally acceptable. Sexual relations are also designed to be an imposition and function as an imposition, on both genders. As such, merely the argument of imposition is not sufficient for a wholesale criminalisation of sexual activity.

Nobody has to agree to anything - one accepts their gender at birth whether they want to or don't want to ; alongside one's gender one accepts the general ownership of their sexual bits by the other gender, and with that one accepts the occasional inconvenience of unsolicited flirting, and catcalling, and pregnancy whether wanted or unwanted as a female, one accepts the social pressures attendant and the slavery to woman's laughter and tearsi and all the rest as a male. On this point there may be no debate, irrespective of what people would like reality to be, would prefer to represent reality as being, irrespective of what constituencies think. This is absolute, unchangeable and untouchable reality.

Criminal misbehaviour around sex may be perfectly well prosecuted as what it actually is, without inventing dysfunctional devices of nonsense :

    I.a. Sexual battery, which is, like any battery, the crime of applying physical violence. There may be something extra slapped to account for the sex part, but in the sex-and-violence combo it's the violence that's wrong, not the sex. The sex is alright, now and forever.

    I.b. Sexual assault, which is the crime of creating the apprehension of violence. You know, like any other assault.

Outside of these two there's no possible prosecution for some imaginary "rape". Did he tie you down, honey ? Ok, battery. Did he beat you up ? Also battery. Doctor your drink ? Battery. Did he hold a knife at you ? Assault then. Did he threaten to kill your beloved sheep, in writing ? Also assault. Not in writing but before witnesses ? Not in writing but on tape ? Assault! None of the above ? Nothing. Nothing at all.

If the purported victim willingly followed the purported aggressor to any private place, if the purported victim willingly took steps reasonably conducive to sexual congress (such as, for instance, disrobing), if the purported victim has a history of either sexual promiscuity (such as, for instance, a prostitute or "sex worker") or happy sexual involvement with the purported aggressor (such as, for instance, a married woman to her husbandii) no crime took place.

If the woman wishes to select her partners she must take the burden of selecting her partners. This means bothering to select men she's getting involved with so that they will respect her wishes, as however she construes them ; this means bothering to scream for help if she's deceived, and in such a way that she may be heard ; this means not going places she may not be heard with people she doesn't trust and on and on ; this means sticking with her selection, and taking responsibility for her mistakes if she's picked wrong. If the woman does not care to select her partners that's also fine. What's not fine is expecting men to undertake any effort to uphold woman's partner selectioniii. What's not fine is that sane people everywhere now have to make any woman swear an affidavit before a notary every single time, and the attendant appearance of all-night drive-through notaries around the motels on the outskirts of major cities.

II. There is no such thing as gender equality in sex. None, none at all. I'm with Taki : a girl has to be of age, but certainly not a boy. Consequently, there exists no such thing as statutory rape involving boys the usual way at any age. Giving blowjobs to toddlers as a relaxant and pacifier is a time honored European traditioniv, the specialty of wet nurses from Ireland to any other barely civilised outskirt.

Exactly what age a girl is of age is certainly disputable. While twelve is probably too soon, eighteen is indisputably too late. Perhaps the 14-16 dual standard is the best solution, whereby a fourteen years old is presumed too young, unless evidence to the contrary prevails (such as her not being a virgin through voluntary relations, for instance) whereas sixteen years old is presumed old enough, unless evidence to the contrary prevails (such as her being a virgin, living in a convent, being a feminist or a liberal or any other such proof of intellectual immaturity).

I personally have no problem setting the age for boys doing that other thing at 21, but this is mostly on account of me not caring. I imagine the pederast communityv would be pretty offended, so perhaps the same arrangement could be used, the dual 14-16. Or perhaps a dual 16-18, on account of the historically celebrated retardation of boysvi. I defer to more knowledgeable parties on the topic, as I've never fucked a boy of any age myself.

To conclude : none of this is some sort of humble proposal. All of this is reality, naked and nude, without possibility of negotiation and with no opening for discussion. It also happens to be the historical agreement of civilised peoples of all races and colors on the topic for millenia, as well as current practice in most of the world. It's not that the English speakers are cordially invited to get off crack and come to sense : it's that they're ordered to. And should they fail to they will be punished for it. That is all.

  1. Yes, in that order. You might find some men capable to maintain composure in front of a teary eyed beauty, but I'll be curious to see how many you find that can calmly take woman laughing at them. []
  2. That's right, the remedy for marital disenchantment is not prosecuting imaginary "rape", it's prosecuting a divorce. []
  3. Much in the same way and much for the same reasons it's not fine for the government to push private parties into undertaking the messy, expensive and burdensome parts of the government's job at their own risk and expense. []
  4. Along with lacing their bottled milk with gin. Arguably gin isn't exactly healthy for toddlers, but there's nothing unhealthy about sex. []
  5. Really, there's gays that aren't into young boys ? Seriously ? Do examine this further. []
  6. It's a medical fact, boys are a coupla of years late, and always have been. []
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36 Responses

  1. Well its certainly true that rape is more about the violence and control than the sex - and in fact way too much stuff is being called rape.
    And the whole age question - well we do seemed determined to try and never let little ones grow into adults these days.
    With the rather enforced extended mental childhood the age question needs more thought.

  2. Mircea Popescu`s avatar
    Mircea Popescu 
    Monday, 26 August 2013

    Still, it's not the age to build a rocket that's in question, but the age to have sex. Experience shows higher cognition does not correlate too well with better sex anyway.

  3. "higher cognition does not correlate too well with better sex anyway"

    I rather think there is an inverse relationship, sadly.

  4. Mircea Popescu`s avatar
    Mircea Popescu 
    Monday, 26 August 2013

    A topic amply explored by reams of XIXth century literature, and one of the main if unknown roots of modern thought especially at the common level.

  5. There's something like 10-20% percent of the english american population which has sex for pleasure and since the rest don't benefit, fat cows turned consensual sex into rape? We can't have it so it's not normal. It wasn't normal to have money some time ago so jews had to be gassed or french guillotined.

  6. Redefining of sex is probably rooted in the abolishment of social classes and inequality of women.

    Back in the rural-colonist society you could probably tell either the fat cows to stick with breeding pigs and getting married as well tell the niggers to plow because nigger is nigger.

    Men were probably not sissies since there were wars and true responsability of work and proper punishment(lashes, death etc) and women were not burdened to suit and work like a man, and get school grades like a man(which they actually obtain by sex, now called statutory rape instead of bribery or natural behavior).

    Correct me pls.

  7. Mircea Popescu`s avatar
    Mircea Popescu 
    Tuesday, 27 August 2013

    Apparently this writing words thing isn't for everyone.

  8. Phrases.

  9. Mai incercam odata: e un articol precedent pe luna trecuta cum ca anonimitatea nu-i pentru saraci, precum violul; casatoria fiind pentru saraci. Daca casatoria le este menita saracilor si cum in lume, evident, sunt mai multi saraci de cat bogati, sexul liber nu-i practicabil liber de catre majoritatea aia libera sa fie saraca.

    Articolul e o constatare de efect, cauza nu-i specificata(val de Puritanism, bine, de parca nu erau englezi oricum) si nici nu-i data vreo solutie, pentru ca nu, nu-i suficient sa revoci legile alea sau sa specifici care-i varianta corecta pe blog(ca oi si vrea schimbat cacatul, nu?!), dat fiind ca sexul liber nu este disponibil unei majoritati si atunci majoritatea care comanda a rescris sexul ca viol.

    Ca sa dai inapoi cacatul asta creat de multe doamne, respectabile virgine nevatamate inteligente frumoase slabe onorabile etc, care fac parte din marea majoritate debordanta ravarsatoare peste elita adunata pe Trilema trebuie facut ceva. Posibil reformat barbatii cum erau ei 'odata', gen vremea razboaielor, razboaie unde nu puteau fi lenesi si sta degeaba cat sa decida altcineva pentru ei. Barbatii ar avea tot interesul sa dea o muie cand si cui cum vor, dar poate nu mai stiu astea. Internet, laba, alea-alea. Ar fi nevoie de o reforma sociala la scara mare. A mers in Germania Nazista cu un avans tehnologic rapid si cu cuceriri rapide de teritoriu intins, a mers in Japonia care a futut mai multa Asie decat Hui Gingie etc. Ca ii tinea cineva in tensiune.

    Asta e teza, ipoteza sau cum penis a se denumi. Ie sau nu ie corecta? Sfarsit.

  10. Mircea Popescu`s avatar
    Mircea Popescu 
    Tuesday, 27 August 2013

    Majoritatea nu comanda, bai asta. Majoritatea se supune.

  11. Cui, statului? Statul, prostiei?

  12. This means bothering to select men she's getting involved with so that they will respect her wishes, as however she construes them ; this means bothering to scream for help if she's deceived, and in such a way that she may be heard

    Your argument appears as though it is inspired by scripture, although I doubt this is the case. What do you make of this collection of verses from Deuteronomy 22?

    23 “If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, 24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.

    25 “But if a man finds a betrothed young woman in the countryside, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. 26 But you shall do nothing to the young woman; there is in the young woman no sin deserving of death, for just as when a man rises against his neighbor and kills him, even so is this matter. 27 For he found her in the countryside, and the betrothed young woman cried out, but there was no one to save her.

  13. Mircea Popescu`s avatar
    Mircea Popescu 
    Friday, 8 May 2015

    I don't happen to see a problem with humbling, either the neighbour's wife or the neighbour himself. I don't recall a time in human history of excessive humility. Guarding against humbling people is like guarding against good science. It happens too rarely as it is and is sorely needed in any case.

    Otherwise the distinction is sound, in principle.

  14. Rusty Shackleford`s avatar
    Rusty Shackleford 
    Saturday, 4 July 2015

    Or, you could fuck off and hang yourself, you rightfully unloved cretin.

  15. Mircea Popescu`s avatar
    Mircea Popescu 
    Saturday, 4 July 2015

    Wait, what ?

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