Forum logs for 29 Sep 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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BingoBoingo	punkman: Seems like motive enough for the NSA to do the systemd turd	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287253 << i dunno that it is. honestly, "Race relations" in the sense of, here's a 10-15% ish scapegoat minority is the lulz of all time. same role the gypsies play in romania, same exact role of the small rus / white rus whatever in russian rhetoric, what the fuck are the ukrainians gonna do, bleed on everyone ?	[04:15]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 01:13:18; phf: i know it's not just la fond, but he's particularly adept at this subject	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	there's 2k years' worth of actual social science being amused at lafond's "hi world i'm an ex boxer lemme tell you how the world looks through my glass" schtick.	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	uh-oh dem niggaz gun git our womenz!	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile if you look at the actual demographics involved the loss of identity, cultural, biological, you name it has been MORE marked for the minority and is certainly going faster.	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	fifty years ago, back when they were "opressed" us blacks ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING. meanwhile they've been... liberated out of it.	[04:18]
punkman	http://uncouthreflections.com/2013/12/22/nine-years-of-alya/	[04:19]
assbot	Nine Years of Alya \| Uncouth Reflections ... ( http://bit.ly/1PKREoa )	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	punkman that's nothing. i suspect the pedigree of "women with a sexual market value" will in the future require full coverage much like the sale of cattle and other biomaterial includes full documentation by default today.	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	"where's your profile pic" of the 90s gave way to the "where's your instagram account" of the 2000s which gave way to "you make and send nude selfies on demand as a prequal" of today which will give way to something, dat much is fo sho.	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	so if your daughter's born recently, she has 50-50 odds of living her entire life publicly nude.	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	imagine telling her about "the world before cellphones" as her mom lived it.	[04:22]
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mircea_popescu	"Atypical Neurotic. An Illinois-born refugee from academia who in late middle-age finds himself a civil servant in Norway. An unashamed city-dweller, he walks 30 minutes every day to a job where he is not paid to be an economist (lawyer or accountant), only to sound like one."	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	pretty impressive blog tho i must say.	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	is this what two blowhards turned into ? or unrelated ?	[04:28]
punkman	no idea, just stumbled on that post	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	"The most important consequence of the Papal Revolution was that it introduced into Western history the experience of revolution itself."	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	i mean for the holy name of Trompi, they like even know shit and whatnot.	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	(yes, lenin is a bit player in a story that marx didn't start, and the french didn't start. the stone fell i nthe lake long long ago.)	[04:31]
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mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-cM5FLTGhU << fundamental "i'ma dress up like gregory an' preach" fantasy enaction.	[04:35]
assbot	The Great Dictator - Speech to Humanity \| HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NYSUF9 )	[04:35]
punkman	is trompi the romanian dumbo?	[04:38]
mircea_popescu	nah. trompi is a putative divinity introduced by a comic strip. he's more mysterious than the fsm in that outside of me and those guys nobody even references it.	[04:39]
BingoBoingo	fifty years ago, back when they were "opressed" us blacks ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING. meanwhile they've been... liberated out of it. << He's got bits of that scattered around though he does focus on the "liberated" younger generations	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo his approach is fundamentally broken, fwiw. "oh, be in shape and you'll..." you'll what ? you'll die, just like everyone else. what's it gonna do, exactly ? he keeps spinning these... what they are is basically "believable superman strips". self-contained submarine-jetfighter except you know, not actually THAT capable, so the weakness of the "self-contained" fantasy is a little harder to put under fire.	[04:43]
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mircea_popescu	there's nothing wrong with it, obviously. and the freshness of perspective is welcome, certainly. and i enjoy reading them, generally.	[04:44]
BingoBoingo	Oh his approach is broken as fuck	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	but i dunno that anyone actually sees them the way sake makes phf fear anyone sees them.	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	heck, all the fucktarded broken software stack would really not be a point of concern if all it took was you know, hitting the gym three times a week and not being over 60.	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	yet here we are.	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	da fuck would i need bitcoin for, in a world where the win criteria is "work out a little".	[04:45]
BingoBoingo	It's like the people who stockpile all the stuff for collapse even if it really means they get robbed first	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	in that range anyway.	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	heck, i could do without needing a spylist longer than most serial monogamists' ex-fucks list just to keep things slightly above water.	[04:47]
BingoBoingo	People are going to do what they are going to do. Some are going to run stock exchanges while others ride the bus to work the grocery store.	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	word.	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	and honestly, if i'm going to ride the bus once, i'd much rather ride it with lafond than plenty of other people.	[04:51]
BingoBoingo	This civilization has got to have some sort of sorting. Just prolly doesn't scale past 1-10 million people really.	[04:54]
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mircea_popescu	his method works for any arbitrary number, providerd of course they never exist in groups larger than a few hundred and those groups are strictly separated.	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	which is amusingly biographical : fighter circuit consists of groups of a few hundred people (the boxer, his team, people at his club, his social acquaintances etc) that come together under very strictly controlled setting (matches) and otherwise are very strictly separated.	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	this way of life can obviously only exist for as long as you know... it's not universal.	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	but the fantasy is alive and well, hence "hunger games" and whatnot.	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	i expect ~half the various anarcho-this and that, so-and-so-punks etc are pretty much equal to that when it comes to social organizing. "let's all live as dunbar number communes in the desert, inaccessible from one another like."	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	hence the interest of things that are predicated on breaking that imagined wall (say - madmax ?)	[04:58]
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BingoBoingo	Seems likely.	[05:00]
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cazalla	BingoBoingo, i know ya got a big stockpile of liquor	[05:14]
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mircea_popescu	well, he has been trying to.	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	problem is the stockpile keeps getting drunk.	[05:28]
cazalla	i know that feel	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	first google hit for "blackstone" ? http://www.bks-motors.com/	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	"Somos una empresa líder en la venta de cuatriciclos deportivos y Agrarios Blackstone. Contamos con una alta cobertura de repuestos y servicios de post- venta."	[05:30]
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mircea_popescu	and in random lulz, http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/	[05:35]
assbot	The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia (Updated) \| Veterans Today ... ( http://bit.ly/1LYXyi1 )	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	"Note: The history of the Khazarians, specifically the Khazarian Mafia (KM), the World’s largest Organized Crime Syndicate that the Khazarian oligarchy morphed into by their deployment of Babylonian Money-Magick, has been nearly completely excised from the history books."	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	but wait! there's more... http://humansarefree.com/2014/09/the-top-of-pyramid-rothschilds-british.html	[05:35]
assbot	The Top of the Pyramid: The Rothschilds, the Vatican and the British Crown Rule World \| Humans Are Free ... ( http://bit.ly/1LYXzCx )	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	"Barack Obama is the current CEO of the USA Corporation and	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	the gold-fringed flags in the background stand for "ruled from abroad.""	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	i must admit i'm a little confused by the internet.	[05:36]
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deedbot-	[Trilema] In numele lui Trompi! - http://trilema.com/2015/in-numele-lui-trompi/	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	punkman ^	[05:50]
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mircea_popescu	http://dpaste.com/2T7H1KG << mildly curious if it gets published.	[06:17]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.fredoneverything.net./COL1.shtml << lolk.	[06:28]
mircea_popescu	looking through that site - seems the average lifetime of a "serious" blog is in the hundreds. i would guess from my own experience less than 1% of a personal attempt survives the 1k articles mark.	[06:28]
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mircea_popescu	The following, which gives the flavor, is from Andrea Dworkin, who I gather is a sort of museum-piece siege howitzer for feminism. It's pretty much how they all talk. Listen:	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	"Men use the night to erase us...The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality, and so the night is the sacred time of male sexual celebration, because it is dark and in the dark it is easier not to see: not to see who she is. Male sexuality, drunk on its intrinsic contempt for all life, but especially for women's lives, can run wild, hunt down random victi	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	ms, use the dark for cover, find in the dark solace, sanctuary, cover."	[06:30]
mircea_popescu	incidentally - dvorkin happens to be pretty much correct. male sexuality IS fundamentally contempt for all life. not for life in particular, but for life in the universal, for the life of maggots and cockroaches and everything else teemingly and indistinctly alive. and as such it is both fundamentally important and functionally required,	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	it keeps women from devolving into the wasp nest dvorkin'd live in, of her own devices.	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	that's the gender role since the begining : woman spits out maggots from her maggot hole and man figures out which she may get to keep.	[06:32]
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mircea_popescu	"Why is schooling so poor for black children? To begin with, because blacks have little enthusiasm for academics. Blacks have demonstrated for an end to discrimination, more welfare, less brutality by police, greater rights, more pay, and greater respect. They do not march for more homework, harder courses, thicker texts with larger words and smaller pictures."	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	ahaha ok.	[06:36]
HeySteve	ah Fred on everything, he's a very enjoyable read	[06:36]
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HeySteve	haven't seen his new stuff on WordPress, think my morning plans just changed	[06:40]
mircea_popescu	it is an astonishingly beautiful point. it generally takes a ~bright~ and very talented slavegirl 18 months or more before her desires go from more chocolate and less beatings to being given harder tasks. and she finds herself in an incredibly powerful, carefully engineered self-improvement-atron.	[06:40]
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mircea_popescu	so why are blacks marching for "respect" which can not be given, instead of marching for "more homework" which would instantly, and absolutedly, deliver that respect ? EARNED respect ?	[06:40]
mircea_popescu	"we're poor, hungry and tired" "so what do you want ?" "more work."	[06:41]
HeySteve	perhaps the concept of earned has been destroyed by handouts	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	concepts can't be destroyed.	[06:41]
HeySteve	well, in their minds	[06:41]
mircea_popescu	i guess handouts rot the brain.	[06:42]
HeySteve	"what you subsidise you get more of, what you tax you get less of"	[06:42]
HeySteve	state has been subsidising failure for decades	[06:42]
HeySteve	and of course, taxing success	[06:43]
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HeySteve	a good example is welfare for single mothers, previously spawning bastards was socially-discouraged for good reason	[06:46]
HeySteve	then the state got involved and illegitimacy rates (which are strongly correlated with criminality) skyrocketed	[06:47]
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mircea_popescu	http://fredoneverything.org/thumpathumpthump-here-come-trump-pols-have-knickers-in-knot/ << his piece on trump is quite well put.	[06:49]
assbot	Thumpathumpthump, Here Come Trump: Pols Have Knickers in Knot \| Fred On Everything ... ( http://bit.ly/1h6l1VU )	[06:49]
mircea_popescu	HeySteve what's the good reason ?	[06:49]
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HeySteve	it's related to what you said about gender roles, with no father to do quality control you get bad outcomes	[06:52]
mircea_popescu	so why do you propose to fix what's working ?	[06:52]
mircea_popescu	those women on welfare, with a dozen kids, ARE doing their job, right ? and splendidly at that, natality ain't easy.	[06:53]
mircea_popescu	(and if you think it is - go ahead and try it.)	[06:53]
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HeySteve	it's population inflation	[06:54]
mircea_popescu	"inflation" only makes sense in a fungible space.	[06:54]
mircea_popescu	humans aren't fungible.	[06:54]
mircea_popescu	to put that objection in more practically comprehensible terms : if you live in a village of 100, the prettiest girl you ever see in your life will be ugly.	[06:55]
HeySteve	well, dominant ideology says there fungible	[06:55]
mircea_popescu	if you live in a country of 1mn, you'll see some passible ass.	[06:55]
HeySteve	they're*	[06:55]
mircea_popescu	in a world of a billion, you will never ever reach the end of breathtaking.	[06:55]
HeySteve	well, debt-based system requires endless growth, of population and everything else	[06:57]
mircea_popescu	that's a whole other conundrum	[06:57]
HeySteve	so if middle-class aren't reproducing like they used to, subsidise reproduction of lower class	[06:57]
HeySteve	but this debases the "population supply" eventually	[06:58]
HeySteve	I guess you can bring in waves of immigrants too and hope they take out a load of home and car loans	[06:59]
mircea_popescu	reproduction and class are strictly unrelated considerations. in fact, they do not even share any common space at all - there isn't a way to define "class" so that reproduction can be made meaningful or vice-versa.	[07:00]
HeySteve	but the ultimate result is Idiocracy world	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	specifically : do you know how many ottoman sultans had wives ?	[07:00]
HeySteve	no idea, weren't they more about harems?	[07:00]
mircea_popescu	exactly. with the exception of roxy the kidnapped ukrainian, two centuries of high class progeny was carried on the bosoms and thigs of SLAVES.	[07:01]
mircea_popescu	lowest caste women could perfectly finely spawn highest caste men. there's absolutely no relation between class and reproduction.	[07:01]
HeySteve	hmm roxanna, I've heard that story somewhere. I think in an old Sean Connery movie...	[07:01]
mircea_popescu	and she BECAME a free woman. in her lifetime. which is barely lowest -1.	[07:02]
mircea_popescu	roughly equivalent to "naturalized illegal alien" or somesuch today.	[07:02]
HeySteve	mircea_popescu, ok well what I mean is that birth rates are low or negative in developed countries	[07:02]
mircea_popescu	like what, china ?	[07:02]
mircea_popescu	is china developed ?	[07:02]
HeySteve	erm, partially I'd say	[07:03]
mircea_popescu	well then i dunno what you mean. the us has had low birth rate since before it was "developed", ie a century ago. england has had low birth rate throughout it's four centuries of being developed. china had lower birth rate in its undeveloped 80s than it does today.	[07:04]
HeySteve	I think they only hit demographic problems around 2030 or so whereas EU, USA and Japan are already there	[07:04]
HeySteve	well low birth rate is ok imo, it's when it falls below replacement level that ponzis like social security start going bust	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	some races compete on spawn. western european folk (not to be confused with white folk, or for that matter with caucasians) do not.	[07:05]
HeySteve	true, they're more about education	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	there's even a line delineating the "poorly productive females" half of europe, and it was drawn in the 1800s	[07:05]
mircea_popescu	it's not clear that "they're more about education" , or that their cunts just don't work worth a crap.	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	that given, gotta figure something out to survive, and hey, education may be it.	[07:06]
HeySteve	well, there are physiological factors relating to ease of childbirth	[07:07]
HeySteve	and also developmental differences in the offspring	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	yeah. but even the western yurpeans favour narrow waists and wide butts.	[07:08]
HeySteve	also cultural differences in the emphasis placed on parenting and education	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	those differences drastically favour the jews, india and china. perhaps in that order.	[07:09]
HeySteve	of course, state has gotten into the parenting and schooling game in a big way, so things are distorted there	[07:09]
HeySteve	well, it's hard to say how the world will go and which reproductive strategies will be selected for	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	which is perhaps why it's a big idea to stop pestering people.	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	woman has 12 kids and feeds them off 2k income ? good for her.	[07:10]
HeySteve	in a nasty war situation for eg. all that education and child-rearing effort is likely to come to nothing on the battlefield	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	who knows. the venetians spent all their time training the girls to be whores, lost to charles on the field then won in the bedroom.	[07:11]
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mircea_popescu	https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3monji/vitalik_buttering_author_of_ethereum_cannot_even/ << i lolled.	[07:18]
assbot	Vitalik Buttering, author of Ethereum, cannot even figure out how to give out beta test rewards with his own smart contracts, so opts for manual copypasting of Reddit comments with random hex digits in them instead. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1h6pg3Y )	[07:18]
HeySteve	I can't believe people put 37k BTC in that	[07:21]
mircea_popescu	this would be mostly because "people" didn't put 37k in that.	[07:22]
HeySteve	I was looking for a way to do multi-sig with coins pegged to fiat or PM, so investigated Ethereum	[07:23]
HeySteve	seemed confusing and unfocused, got the impression they have no businesspeople involved	[07:23]
HeySteve	who put in the 37k?	[07:23]
mircea_popescu	the whole "ethereum" story is, mr alienface and some junior profs at umaryland scammed that university for a little space and morning coffees ; he lied about the few hundred BTC available as being tens of thousands, and did some fraudulent moves to "prove" this ; he lied about "expenses" to explain why the capital he claimed to have doesn't in fact exist (but hey, he "spent it" for ethereum, which is good and builds ma	[07:25]
mircea_popescu	rket value, right ? notwithstanding that mp has nixed ripple back when it was still called colored coins, and notwithstanding that this ripple reimplementation is even failful-er than the previous one).	[07:25]
mircea_popescu	altogether a marginally better showing than garza's "buyout at $20" plan.	[07:25]
mircea_popescu	about the same budget.	[07:25]
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mircea_popescu	they've mostly (80% or so) burned through the ~10k actual dollars they had available for this highschool play, which is about what you'd exp[ect for six months' entertainment	[07:26]
mircea_popescu	moving on.	[07:26]
HeySteve	hmm. well it's looking like you called another one. what do you think about BitShares? it looks like it can do what I want but seems a little too good to be true	[07:26]
mircea_popescu	just another offshot branch off the same nonsense tree.	[07:27]
mircea_popescu	and with that, ima go eulora. bbl!	[07:27]
HeySteve	enjoy	[07:28]
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mircea_popescu	!up kyrre	[09:04]
-assbot-	You voiced kyrre for 30 minutes.	[09:04]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287262 << hehe. bare ankles in housewives really bothers old whores.	[09:07]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 02:15:33; trinque: the nerve of trying to make the argument that what we're seeing in the world today is russian military adventurism	[09:07]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287284 << i would guess this is what the anton story morphed into.	[09:07]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 04:25:15; punkman: mircea_popescu: Since Ether went live he has disappeared and refused to discuss the issue anymore, and it is unlikely anyone could've collected from him at any point. << and they didn't even have the anton story?	[09:07]
mircea_popescu	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CP722YKU8AAqoD2.png:large << clearly, more pki is the solution to pki.	[09:08]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1h5HnH5 )	[09:08]
mircea_popescu	"The intelligence official, identified as William George Basil, was accused of espionage and eavesdropping. But by then he had already left the country, and the U.S. government, as it has done for the past 10 years, continues to stonewall Greek authorities on the agency’s involvement."	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	hey, romania still has an unsatisfied arrest warrant for some us derp that got drunk and ran over some relatively popular singer guy.	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	i would suspect there's more random common law criminals being shielded by the usg from various jurisdictions than there are successful prosecutions in any given year.	[09:12]
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mircea_popescu	a question for the mathematically inclined practical minds in the audience :	[09:33]
mircea_popescu	let there be a monotonous measurable system S. let Mi be measurements made at moments-in-time Ti. let average-per-unit-time delta values be reported for each Ti as Ai = (Mi - Mi-1) / (Ti - Ti-1). let an arbitrary "reporting unit" R be defined so that a finite count of Ti fit in each such unit Rj. Let Ais be plainly averaged so that A' = (Ak +...+ Am) / (m-k) where k, m are the first and last i's for Tis fitting in Rj.	[09:34]
mircea_popescu	what would you say the "intuitive meaning" of A'j is ?	[09:34]
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mircea_popescu	o.O	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	check it out, ethereum needed moneyz so it sold its s.mpoe participation.	[10:20]
mircea_popescu	in other news, https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5682494208/hE78C470E/	[10:20]
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mircea_popescu	"Global terrorism is extreme both in its lack of realistic goals and in its cynical exploitation of the vulnerability of complex systems."	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	bwahahaha habermas is not quite as smart as previously believed.	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	hint : a world without complex systems IS a realistic goal. in point of fact, it is the baseline in realism.	[10:29]
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funkenstein_	good morning radical critics	[10:47]
funkenstein_	hey that looks like a smoothed derivative	[10:47]
funkenstein_	"Just like every moral-panic flavoured intellectual fashion of a mostly idle and broadly useless population, this nonsense is not here to stay." <-- nice :)	[10:49]
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HeySteve	http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/glenron.jpg	[11:00]
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mircea_popescu	funkenstein_ "smoothed" ?	[11:00]
HeySteve	hi	[11:00]
funkenstein_	yeah? one way to describe time averaged is smoothed, so as to not show the variations that happen over short times	[11:05]
funkenstein_	Hey HeySteve	[11:07]
funkenstein_	kinda like a bandpass filter of sorts to get rid of high frequency stuff	[11:07]
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mircea_popescu	well sure, but...	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	there's no actual guarantee A' is smoother than A.	[11:14]
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mircea_popescu	in fact the smoothness comparison is a decent indication of the entropy involved.	[11:14]
funkenstein_	aha, yeah i can see it	[11:16]
funkenstein_	it is said that in chaotic systems power goes from low frequencies to high frequencies	[11:19]
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mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field	[11:23]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[11:23]
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mircea_popescu	o look who's here. how's lyf alf ?	[11:23]
ascii_field	busy	[11:23]
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mircea_popescu	merrily merrily merrily	[11:24]
thestringpuller	ascii_field: Been looking for your "rules" on trustworthy computing on your blog...	[11:24]
mircea_popescu	lyf is but a dreaaammmm	[11:24]
thestringpuller	nvm found it	[11:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46337 @ 0.00069881 = 32.3808 BTC [-] {3}	[11:25]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu is in a good mood this morning	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	them's be fightin' words	[11:27]
funkenstein_	deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/10NN603.txt	[11:28]
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mircea_popescu	o hey look at that.	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	waht are those worth even ?	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 0.0000249 * 333333	[11:30]
gribble	8.2999917	[11:30]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[11:30]
mircea_popescu	how can i be this fuckign rich ?	[11:30]
funkenstein_	lol	[11:31]
funkenstein_	probably missing a zero somewhere	[11:31]
thestringpuller	;;isup qntra.net	[11:31]
gribble	qntra.net is up	[11:31]
thestringpuller	can anyone in US hit qntra?	[11:32]
funkenstein_	not loading here	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	oh wait wrong one.	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 0.00000595 * 333333	[11:32]
gribble	1.98333135	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	still.	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	yeah i guess qntra ddoser got his monthly allowance or w/e that is.	[11:33]
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thestringpuller	i can hit it from VPN tho	[11:34]
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punkman	http://www.codex99.com/illustration/56.html	[11:52]
assbot	The Ultimate Alphabet ... ( http://bit.ly/1L294wD )	[11:52]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.nationalhumanservices.org/what-is-human-services <<< if only this were as fake as it looks.	[12:06]
assbot	What is Human Services? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QJBTy7 )	[12:06]
mircea_popescu	if you're curious as to where the endless scams draw their vigour from... you need look no further than government.	[12:06]
mircea_popescu	of course.	[12:06]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-09-2015#1286918 << must point out that this is easily fixed with drill, often - with bare hands; and that i have yet to meet anyone who actually ~uses~ shower head which came with his house or flat - they go in the rubbish, to be replaced by proper one with hose	[13:03]
assbot	Logged on 28-09-2015 08:50:25; mircea_popescu: (and random discussion YET AGAIN undercovers the well lied about ustardian poverty. hey random schmuck, did you know your DAD could afford 5x the water that may be wasted on your stupid head ? forged granpa.)	[13:03]
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BingoBoingo	problem is the stockpile keeps getting drunk. << I believe the concept is "inventory buffer"	[13:22]
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ascii_field	http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/09/american-allies-in-syria-their-shameful.html << from the l0lpharms	[13:28]
assbot	ClubOrlov: American “allies” in Syria: their shameful performance is perfectly explainable ... ( http://bit.ly/1FAIWbY )	[13:28]
ascii_field	'Generally speaking, any authentic-looking towelhead who is able to intelligibly pronounce the word "democracy" has a chance to receive financing and weapons. But nobody has any control over where he will then go with these weapons. By the way, Soviet intelligence services of the Brezhnev era had the same problem, latching onto any tribal chieftain who knew how to pronounce words like "Marx" and "Lenin."'	[13:30]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[13:40]
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ascii_field	'The Pentagon didn't notice the moment when blowing up defenseless, demoralized adversaries using cruise missiles stopped being the only method for waging war. And now it is very difficult to appraise the real capabilities of the huge bulk of the US Army or Marine Corps, should they ever encounter an enemy that is approximately equal to them in technical capabilities.'	[13:40]
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ascii_field	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/28/confederate-flag-on-ga-kids-backpack-leads-to-scho	[13:53]
assbot	Confederate flag on Ga. kid's backpack leads to school lockdown - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1RdXdN9 )	[13:53]
BingoBoingo	ascii_field: Lol, counseling upon the student's return	[14:02]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field sure but also not really teh point is i.	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	it*	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	soviets also stole from "the property of the whole people"	[14:06]
ascii_field	re: which	[14:07]
ascii_field	?	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	drill fix	[14:07]
ascii_field	aha	[14:07]
ascii_field	direct analogue is the 'cheater'	[14:07]
ascii_field	a device which screwed in place of a light bulb, circa 1920s	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	aha	[14:07]
ascii_field	creating an illicit mains socket.	[14:07]
ascii_field	to ~this day~ we call it a жулик (fraudster)	[14:08]
ascii_field	more commonly, a splitter of one mains socket into 3+	[14:09]
ascii_field	is 'cheater' - even in english-speaking lands. from this i surmise that they, too, once had 'headcount' fees on mains socket	[14:09]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[14:11]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: http://pro-radio.ru/technology/9509-26 << modern incarnation.	[14:11]
assbot	Маленькие полезняшки ... ( http://bit.ly/1RdZN5F )	[14:11]
ascii_field	http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/2/73/798/73798563_4205816_Foto004.jpg << handmade.	[14:12]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1RdZPKQ )	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	iirc you could get hard time for that.	[14:12]
ascii_field	quite certain.	[14:12]
BingoBoingo	iirc you could get hard time for that. << Only if you are a licensed contractor.	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	nah i mean in the original country.	[14:13]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: 'Не знаю в точности, как городские постройки подключались к электростанции, но по сохранившемуся случайно «Абонементу на право пользования электрической энергией», можно увидеть, что наш дом был подключён к электросетям с 2	[14:13]
ascii_field	0 января 1950 года, разрешение было выдано только на электролампочки, сначала на одну в 50 вт, а постепенно мощность увеличивалась...' >> http://www.novozybkov.ru/beads/article/106 << history of this	[14:13]
assbot	Городские электростанции Новозыбкова и детство на Тёплом ручье ... ( http://bit.ly/1Re01cT )	[14:13]
ascii_field	'i do not know for sure how the city buildings connected to the power plant, but the accidentally preserved 'testament to the right to utilize the mains grid energy', you can see that our home was connected to the mains on 20 january 1950, and the permit was written ~only~ for light bulbs, starting with 50 watt, then progressing to 145...	[14:14]
ascii_field	'	[14:14]
ascii_field	'... no other electrical appliances were permitted, and inspectors made their rounds to see; but people went to great lengths to deceive...'	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	'The Pentagon didn't notice the moment when blowing up defenseless, demoralized adversaries using cruise missiles stopped being the only method for waging war.' << this was never the fucking case wtf narrative bs is this.	[14:15]
ascii_field	it was the pentagon way	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	and the reaso nit is "very difficulty" to appraise the "capabilites" of us army/navy/etc is because they are nil. anmd the reason they are nil is exactly the same reason the intellectual abilities of college grads are nil.	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field it never was.	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	the day they decided to fret over "transgenderism" instead of beating kids for sport is the day performance went away	[14:17]
ascii_field	except it was iron bombs for most of 20th	[14:17]
ascii_field	c	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	no it wasn't. dude, srsly... they had a fucking draft for vietnam.	[14:17]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: it went away in vietnam and there were only men fighting	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	at no point was the pentagon idea that war is won by anything other than fucking guts.	[14:17]
ascii_field	vietnam is where they 'we shall win by dropping 4 million tonnes of trotyl'	[14:18]
ascii_field	'hey it worked in ww2'	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	no it wasn't, and no it didn't nor was it even treied or contempalted in ww2.	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	wtf rewriting of military history is this!	[14:18]
ascii_field	tet offensive ?	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	yeah, and day z.	[14:18]
ascii_field	operation linebacker ?	[14:19]
ascii_field	ianag.	[14:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37730 @ 0.00069866 = 26.3604 BTC [-] {2}	[14:19]
ascii_field	(... not a general)	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	tet was an... infantry operation.	[14:20]
mircea_popescu	what sort of example is this ?	[14:20]
ascii_field	iirc americans tried to massage with aerial bombardment prior	[14:20]
ascii_field	expensively, copiously, but uselessly	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	it was a communist offensive.	[14:21]
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ascii_field	and mircea_popescu is right, i was thinking in reality of the Christmas Offensive	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	the us army and south vietnamese were at first inept but then regrouped and turned it into a disaster for the northeners	[14:21]
ascii_field	not the tet	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	this is that!	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	tet = xmas in vietnamese	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	or was it new year	[14:22]
ascii_field	new year	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	ah ok right.	[14:22]
ascii_field	hence my brainfart.	[14:22]
ascii_field	america called it 'operation linebacker 2.'	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	anyway, attempts to win wars by artillery have been ongoing ever since someone observed cca 1600 that cannon is the major batterfield KILLER.	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	this is not unlike observing that the penis is the major bedroom inseminator.	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	sure it is, doesn't mean perambulating cocks will score that many dates.	[14:23]
phf	http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/os-x-10-11-el-capitan-the-ars-technica-review/8/ << oh boy mac os x new "System Integrity Protection"	[14:30]
assbot	OS X 10.11 El Capitan: The Ars Technica Review \| Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZhniH )	[14:30]
phf	"The end result is that in El Cap, root is no longer an account with effectively unlimited access to either the file system or to memory and running processes. SIP places kernel-level checks on root’s privilege that can only be bypassed by the kernel itself."	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	is that good for applecoin ?	[14:30]
phf	"SIP consists of four major features:	[14:30]
phf	Protected locations cannot be written to by root.	[14:30]
phf	Protected system processes cannot be attached to with a debugger and cannot be subject to code injection.	[14:30]
phf	All kernel extensions must now be signed (and old methods for disabling kernel extension signing are gone).	[14:30]
phf	SIP cannot be disabled from within the operating system, only from the OS X Recovery partition."	[14:30]
ascii_field	l0l!!!	[14:30]
ascii_field	this is straight from microshit !	[14:30]
phf	"The inclusion of OS X default applications in the list [some list of SIP locations --phf] means that they inherit the same file system protections as any other SIP location—if you want to delete Mail.app because you only use your third-party mail application, you’re out of luck."	[14:31]
ascii_field	https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn613955(v=vs.85).aspx << as in.	[14:31]
assbot	Kernel patch protection: frequently asked questions - Windows 10 hardware dev ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZhx9F )	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	ahahah what is this bs	[14:31]
phf	"Attempting to inject libraries into system binaries will result in an error. Even trying to poke into a protected process with DTRACE will fail—probes that try to target protected processes will fail to match, and no interaction with the kernel will be visible, and protected memory space will be simply inaccessible. Not even LLDB will be useful. You won’t be able to invoke it on system processes, regardless of root privilege."	[14:32]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: microshit had this for years. kernel is filled with boobytraps that cross-checksum each other, like any good malware	[14:32]
ascii_field	all drivers must be rsa-signed;	[14:32]
ascii_field	any attempt to patch kernel that is detected (and the traps move around) hangs the box	[14:32]
ascii_field	oh and they like to shuffle'em on updates	[14:32]
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BingoBoingo	All kernel extensions must now be signed (and old methods for disabling kernel extension signing are gone). << lol, http://qntra.net/2015/08/os-x-flaw-in-the-wild-abuses-error-logging-function-to-edit-sudoers/	[14:33]
assbot	OS X Flaw in the Wild Abuses Error Logging Function to Edit sudoers \| Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SET9Kh )	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	derp.	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	so why would anyone "upgrade" ?	[14:33]
ascii_field	forced.	[14:33]
ascii_field	also betcha this will drive sales of hardware debuggerz through the roof.	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	what do you mean "forced"	[14:35]
phf	this is dr. strangelove level of problem solving right there	[14:35]
ascii_field	as in 'no upgrade, proggies bought in the store won't run, latest Pnohe won't sync, etc'	[14:35]
ascii_field	and/or networked boxes 'upgrade' themselves at night.	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	i dunno about any of that	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	but then again i never really owned a mac so whatevs.	[14:36]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: these things are sop	[14:36]
ascii_field	esp. post-steve-j	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	i thought the trend was towards rooted iphones not the other way around	[14:37]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: these are a very funny joke on their own. WITHOUT EXCEPTION all 'rooters' are closed-source gigantic blobs that do fuck-knows-what to the pnohe	[14:38]
ascii_field	this is justified by the author as 'we don't want crapple to fix it too quickly'	[14:38]
ascii_field	and true enough, when it is finally reversed, they close the hole.	[14:38]
mircea_popescu	what do you mean hole ?	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	it's a fucking processor on a board with a disk and a ram stick innit ?	[14:39]
ascii_field	the exploit which allowed the pnohe to be 'jailbroken'	[14:39]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: it has rsa sig checker in mask rom which runs on reset	[14:39]
ascii_field	this makes it more like 'nintendo' than computer.	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	so you drill it out i guess	[14:40]
ascii_field	so 'jailbreak' requires some finesse	[14:40]
ascii_field	go drill it out of the die !	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	the cpu die ?	[14:40]
ascii_field	why did you think apple makes own silicon !	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[14:40]
ascii_field	it is quite analogous to a nintendo or playstation etc.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	so basically apple is the sony corp of america sorta thing mkay.	[14:40]
ascii_field	long ago.	[14:40]
ascii_field	steve j. even wrote this.	[14:41]
ascii_field	(he was consciously and unabashedly enamored of sony)	[14:41]
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-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[14:42]
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ascii_field	'OS X users who depend upon unsigned KEXTs for extra functionality—be it third-party hardware with unsigned drivers or software like OSXFuse that depends upon unsigned kernel extensions—will have precisely two alternatives: stop using the applications or hardware until the developers provide signed KEXTs, or disable SIP altogether.' << hello winblows 7 !	[14:43]
ascii_field	clearly this is what apple users pined for	[14:44]
ascii_field	this mega-'feature' of microturd	[14:44]
ascii_field	you don't need that mass-spectrometer! it didn't come with signed driver!	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	i thought you couldn't disable sip altogether ?	[14:45]
ascii_field	apparently you can, similar to microshit's 'test mode'	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	i find it comedic that for all the "well documented" flaws of rsa, all these "take over the world" computing schemes fail to use ECC.	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	somehow this is supposed to not be gallingly obvious or what ?	[14:46]
ascii_field	https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Pwnage << correct. rsa.	[14:47]
assbot	Pwnage - The iPhone Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1Re4uMH )	[14:47]
ascii_field	the most pedestrian hypothesis here is that rsa is considerably easier to implement.	[14:47]
ascii_field	(though still not easy !)	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	"WoW !!! Mircea Popescu is back. Not only on Trilema, but also on Twitter"	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	wut the fuck are the derps on about ?	[14:48]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: in their imaginary universe, you took the money and ran in 2011, then came back N more times to somehow also take the money and run each.'	[14:49]
phf	around 2g/3g you still had "linux on iphone" projects and such. i think there was one project to recreate part of iphone stuck by combining opensource apple code and writing what's missing. this is of course long history.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	right, it was the buterins of the world that are permanent.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	phf you mean stack ?	[14:49]
ascii_field	'the car bomb exploded. the mechanic cursed and pulled on another wire. the car bomb exploded again, with greater violence. windows rattled, dogs barked. 'you definitely have a car bomb, sir, i can tell you that now!' he muttered.'	[14:50]
phf	yes, but this is somehow a freudian slip	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	lol	[14:51]
punkman	http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a52_1441716598	[14:53]
assbot	LiveLeak.com - Peru: Grenade blows policeman’s hands off in Lima school attack GRAPHIC ... ( http://bit.ly/1Re5ccM )	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	wwwwwait...	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	who was attacking what ?	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	"grenade blows standoff"	[14:54]
phf	there was a period when apple was not this outright hostile to hackers. around 10.4-10.5 you could still rebuild darwin (i did it for a bit to work around the retarded execl argument list length limitations) or bsd user space from apple hosted source. even cocoa userspace had all kinds of hooks that you could use to customize the os, like inputmanager bundles	[14:59]
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ascii_field	phf: iirc they closed the kernel source a while ago.	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/6faf034ca9ce9ec0deda67bc8840f5d4/tumblr_nu5t8abUsh1uvvy5ro1_500.gif	[15:00]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1iZleMx )	[15:00]
phf	ascii_field: around the same time that they started focusing on iphone. in fact it looked like they were pulling the libraries one by one as custom iphone optimization were making their way in	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	is this more or less just as jobs was going out ?	[15:02]
ascii_field	iirc it began when he first took ill	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	aha	[15:03]
ascii_field	and rolled out shortly when corpse was cold.	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	it's kinda funny how things are set up. the faitful always mistake the butresses of their chosen as mere weakness of the flesh that they, true templars, will find the courage and rectitude to straighten out	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	then the whole echafaudage collapses ion a cloud of wtf and wchp	[15:04]
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funkenstein_	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/28/mobile_malvertiser_ddos_javascript_drip_serves_site_with_45_billion_hits/ <-- more cannons	[15:08]
assbot	Mobile advertising DDoS JavaScript drip serves site with 4.5bn hits • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZmT4P )	[15:08]
funkenstein_	copypaste can confirm the story?	[15:09]
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ben_vulpes	;;isup wiki.bitcoin-assets.com	[15:18]
gribble	wiki.bitcoin-assets.com is up	[15:18]
ben_vulpes	nonsense i say	[15:18]
ben_vulpes	;;later tell kakobrekla "coracle": 54.187.227.228	[15:19]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[15:19]
ben_vulpes	s'il vous plait	[15:19]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu davout jurov: Look, now people are copying another MPEx tool, behold fake X.EUR https://archive.is/bTvNG	[16:03]
assbot	New Bitcoin Product Launch on Nasdaq by XBT Provider - Press Release ... ( http://bit.ly/1YMM5vx )	[16:03]
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BingoBoingo	Some Nasdaq venture apparently is creating BTC certificates denominated in EUR, all on paper	[16:22]
BingoBoingo	Not all of Nasdaq, just some venture listed there	[16:22]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[16:26]
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ascii_field	jurov: but somebody gotta serve the folks who want to work with amero^H^H^H^Husg^H^H^Husc	[16:26]
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ascii_field	(see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2013#379804 )	[16:26]
assbot	Logged on 14-11-2013 17:33:07; asciilifeform: replace 'bitdollar' with 'amero', for extra conspiratorial spice.	[16:26]
BingoBoingo	jurov: Comparable in the sense sausage and turd may be compared as cylinders	[16:27]
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ascii_field	eh, old hat	[16:29]
ascii_field	жидомасоны (tm) (r)	[16:30]
ascii_field	(approx. 'yid-masons.' the equivalent of 'illuminati' in ru blog varietyspeak)	[16:30]
ascii_field	l0l!!	[16:32]
ascii_field	btw the masons - at least the ones that can be met with in usa - are perhaps the ultimate cargo cult.	[16:33]
ascii_field	tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s	[16:34]
trinque	I have a grandfather's freemason pin on a jacket; he was about that age when he passed away	[16:34]
BingoBoingo	tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s << They still recruit.	[16:34]
ascii_field	jurov: the masons.	[16:34]
ascii_field	what else.	[16:35]
ascii_field	just like usa imitates... usa	[16:35]
ascii_field	the one in the ru vhs tapes	[16:35]
ascii_field	and yes they recruit	[16:35]
ascii_field	i knew a fella who signed up. he brewed beer.	[16:35]
ascii_field	was very popular.	[16:35]
phf	жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice	[16:35]
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trinque	I recall my grandfather saying they weren't much more than a social club at the time I was asking	[16:36]
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ascii_field	if you ask'em they might even say they invented wheel, fire, structured programming, etc	[16:41]
trinque	"we dooooo"	[16:42]
trinque	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OExykL5QnXY	[16:42]
assbot	The Simpsons - We Do - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEIg8g )	[16:42]
ascii_field	obligatory montrezor: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-08-2015#1248984	[16:42]
assbot	Logged on 22-08-2015 21:34:31; phf: "You? Impossible! A mason?" "A mason," I replied. "A sign," he said, "a sign." "It is this," I answered, producing from beneath the folds of my roquelaire a trowel.	[16:42]
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phf	^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"	[16:45]
ascii_field	and 'riding the goat' is what, not absurd ?	[16:46]
ascii_field	ritual ~has~ to be absurd.	[16:46]
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ascii_field	http://phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/goat_riding_tricycle.htm << see also.	[16:47]
assbot	Goat Riding tricycle ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEIEUc )	[16:47]
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phf	ahaha, i've not seen this	[16:48]
ascii_field	'We leave the big piano shut and do not strike a note; / the doctor's been here seven times since father rode the goat.'	[16:48]
ascii_field	'...He mutters passwords 'neath his breath, And other things he'll quote ---- / They surely had an evening's work when father rode the goat.'	[16:49]
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ascii_field	https://theintercept.com/2015/09/28/death-athens-rogue-nsa-operation << from the ministry of nailgun	[16:57]
assbot	Did a Rogue NSA Operation Cause the Death of a Greek Telecom Employee? ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEJtfF )	[16:57]
ascii_field	'...he went inside his brother’s apartment and saw Costas hanging from a rope tied to pipes above the lintel of his bathroom door, an old wooden chair nearby. He and his mother cut the rope and laid Costas down on the bed. The day before his death, Costas’ boss at Vodafone had ordered that a newly discovered code — a powerful and sophisticated bug — be deactivated and removed from its systems. The wiretap,	[16:58]
ascii_field	placed by persons unknown, targeted more than 100 top officials, including then Prime Minister...'	[16:58]
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ascii_field	for some reason, knockout drug + rope appears to be the favourite usg method for dispatching troublesome folks	[17:02]
ascii_field	not hard to see the up-sides. by the time corpse turns up, it is in a condition where - even if someone were inclined to investigate (and who wants to be next corpse?) nothing could be said.	[17:04]
phf	!up thestringpuller	[17:05]
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thestringpuller	ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?	[17:06]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: i'd say it cannot.	[17:06]
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ascii_field	thestringpuller: do you know the political term 'unprincipled exception' ?	[17:07]
ascii_field	~interrupts~ were an unprincipled exception when introduced to von n. arch.	[17:07]
ascii_field	as were multi-processors.	[17:07]
ascii_field	ditto dma.	[17:08]
ascii_field	!s dma	[17:08]
assbot	27 results for 'dma' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dma	[17:08]
thestringpuller	Yea I also figure you aren't a fan of DMA	[17:08]
ascii_field	the way these items are implemented is ~inherently~ retarded	[17:08]
ascii_field	inescapably.	[17:08]
thestringpuller	I figured so when using them in academia.	[17:08]
thestringpuller	even on the gameboy the dma controllers are annoying as fuck	[17:08]
ascii_field	you will notice that when folks are persevering with something retarded, you get 'epicycles'	[17:09]
ascii_field	e.g., what happens when an interrupt happens during an interrupt, on your box? look it up, you may be surprised	[17:09]
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thestringpuller	on the gameboy if you interrupt during and interrupt you get undefined behavior	[17:10]
thestringpuller	the NDS makes it worse cause the two processors running on the thing run at different clock speeds	[17:11]
ascii_field	on modern x86 there are elaborate queueing/prioritization kludges.	[17:11]
thestringpuller	Yea, not so much on an ARM die.	[17:11]
thestringpuller	ARM-based*	[17:11]
thestringpuller	the sad thing about interrupts on nintendo's handhelds is its used for all the useful shit...	[17:12]
ascii_field	on ~all~ extant machines	[17:12]
ascii_field	https://cryptome.org/cops.jpg << usg seek000rity detail for pope	[17:13]
ascii_field	'can't have police state without police !' (tm) (r) (al schwartz)	[17:13]
BingoBoingo	ascii_field: USG was prolly worried about all those sedevacantist extremists	[17:14]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo: nah	[17:15]
thestringpuller	ascii_field: ugh this brings back terrible memories. So what's the deal with interrupts like airplane food?	[17:15]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo: more of what was seen at boston. show of force.	[17:15]
ascii_field	precisely like the presidential forbidden city motorcades	[17:16]
BingoBoingo	Sure to scare Luke-Jr and the rest of the Sedevacantists	[17:16]
ascii_field	where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN	[17:16]
ascii_field	and purely to rub it in.	[17:16]
trinque	kenny loggins blaring from every black suburban	[17:17]
ascii_field	it is ENTIRELY about 'we can do ANYTHING we like to you, and YOU can do NOTHING to us'	[17:17]
trinque	check out tubby on the bicycle, lol	[17:17]
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thestringpuller	ascii_field: not nearly as bad as the LA Riots	[17:18]
ascii_field	and since mircea_popescu appears to be sleeping, i will have to fill in for him and say 'this is what usians get for not being pashtuns!' aha.	[17:18]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: the l.a. riots - won	[17:18]
trinque	usians love this kind of thing	[17:19]
thestringpuller	kinda...a lot of niggas got fucked up.	[17:19]
thestringpuller	Compton is still "the hood"	[17:19]
ascii_field	they won.	[17:19]
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ascii_field	in the sense that the rioters were not rounded up and hanged in gibbets in public square	[17:19]
thestringpuller	They being the police?	[17:19]
ascii_field	but instead there was 'controversy'	[17:19]
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thestringpuller	ascii_field: you ever seen the movie "The Warriors"?	[17:20]
ascii_field	nope.	[17:20]
thestringpuller	ascii_field: http://www.whysanity.net/monos/warriors.html << pertinent line	[17:21]
ascii_field	http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/29/us/29nsa-foia.html#document/p16/a245624 << lulzy	[17:21]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEL5Gp )	[17:21]
thestringpuller	"You're standing right now with nine delegates from 100 gangs. And there's over a hundred more. That's 20,000 hardcore members. Forty-thousand, counting affiliates, and twenty-thousand more, not organized, but ready to fight: 60,000 soldiers! Now, there ain't but 20,000 police in the whole town." << I would think if gangs outnumber the police the last thing you want is an escalation of war. I.e. national guard/army	[17:22]
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ascii_field	criminals ~always~ outnumber police.	[17:22]
ascii_field	how else.	[17:22]
ascii_field	(technically everything that moves on two legs in usa is 'criminal')	[17:23]
thestringpuller	well criminals willing to kill police officers (not a lot of people are willing to go that far)	[17:23]
thestringpuller	The LA Riots saw the unification of the Bloods and Cryps for a short time in similar spirit described in the warriors	[17:24]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: notice that ~exclusively~ local/municipal police are ever killed. as to why: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456	[17:24]
assbot	Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.	[17:24]
phf	can you dig it?	[17:25]
thestringpuller	!b 4	[17:26]
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ascii_field	notice how the latest wave of 'OMG!!11!!1!!policebrutality!11!!1livezmatter!!11' began with... several states proclaiming intent to arrest federal law enforcers in some cases	[17:26]
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ascii_field	(in one state, those enforcing federal gun laws; in others - dope)	[17:26]
ascii_field	this rapidly went to zero.	[17:27]
ascii_field	and quietly 'unhappened' in media	[17:27]
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ascii_field	etc.	[17:27]
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thestringpuller	well local police are rarely proesecuted. the whole reason the LA riots occurred is cause d00ds got off on charges of Police Brutality	[17:28]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[17:28]
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ascii_field	thestringpuller: none of it is about prosecuting	[17:28]
ascii_field	it is about 'pr' and image massage.	[17:28]
ascii_field	about getting usians to see local cops as 'enemy' so that nice shiny new 'friends' can be trucked in	[17:29]
thestringpuller	It's all fun and games until the niggers start rioting in the street.	[17:29]
ascii_field	and given whatever powers.	[17:29]
thestringpuller	ascii_field: also notice how it's never white people and honky's who riot.	[17:29]
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BingoBoingo	(in one state, those enforcing federal gun laws; in others - dope) << The one state has Gubanatorial elections coming up, expect rhetoric to return	[17:29]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: no shit	[17:30]
ascii_field	btw the 'make'em hate the local cops' thing dates to ~AT LEAST~ brown v. board of e	[17:31]
ascii_field	and before that - 'reconstruction'	[17:31]
thestringpuller	during brown v board of education, the police and white people were indistinguishable	[17:32]
ascii_field	as local police tend to be, when drawn from the population they work on	[17:32]
thestringpuller	it was the feds iirc who protected the black children attending newly integrated schools	[17:33]
ascii_field	aha and every media mouthpiece made sure to snap it from 1,001 angles	[17:33]
ascii_field	'love the feds, they are your friends'	[17:33]
thestringpuller	that was much the case during the civil rights era.	[17:34]
thestringpuller	kinda uncanny, "hate teh local police, love the national guard"	[17:34]
BingoBoingo	lol http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-furloughs-workers-docks-vacation-2015-9?utm_source=qntra&utm_medium=referral&utm_term=rival	[17:34]
ascii_field	see also aesop's frog & scorpion.	[17:34]
assbot	Oracle furloughs workers, docks vacation - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1LZZOWj )	[17:34]
thestringpuller	I thought it was a snake and turtle	[17:35]
BingoBoingo	Aesop had many X and Y animal fables	[17:35]
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BingoBoingo	!up thestringpuller	[17:36]
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ascii_field	'Lots of tech companies do that, but in Oracle's case, it is mandating that all employees pay for this furlough with four days of their paid time off/vacation time, according to several sources we spoke to.' << l0l	[17:38]
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ascii_field	' It's still hiring like crazy, with nearly 10,000 open jobs listed on its website, for instance, and it has ratcheted up research and development a bit, spending $8.7 billion in its last fiscal year — which ended in August — compared to $8.6 billion in fiscal 2014.' << does anyone else feel brain melting from the sheer density of flimflam packed into this paragraph ?	[17:39]
BingoBoingo	Quite a bit	[17:40]
ascii_field	(10,000 'openings advertised on www' has something to do with actual employment? and 8.6B spent on 'research' has something to do with r&d ? not on my planet...)	[17:40]
ascii_field	oblig: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#742046	[17:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23956 @ 0.00068502 = 16.4103 BTC [-] {5}	[17:41]
assbot	Logged on 03-07-2014 17:34:41; asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot	[17:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00068303 = 27.3212 BTC [-]	[17:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16945 @ 0.00068303 = 11.5739 BTC [-]	[17:51]
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phf	i added eatbulk to bitcoind that takes a folder with blk dat files and eats them in order, provisioning the node at the moment. pointless graphs time! http://glyf.org/tmp/height-time.png hours vs block height, http://glyf.org/tmp/height-delta.png block height vs delay from previous ACCEPTED	[17:55]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1M02iE2 )	[17:55]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1M02l2W )	[17:55]
thestringpuller	can't wait till bitcoind is fully deturdified	[17:58]
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BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[18:07]
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BingoBoingo	!up thestringpuller	[18:07]
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ascii_field	phf: i never saw a reason to put the iteration of blocks in the cpp. really it is a job for scripting lang from outside	[18:11]
ascii_field	'eatblock' does exactly one shot of eating a block.	[18:12]
ascii_field	imho as it ought.	[18:12]
phf	ascii_field: that's why it's not on the ml	[18:12]
ascii_field	but, still spiffy	[18:12]
ascii_field	phf: have you seen mine ?	[18:12]
ascii_field	phf: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html	[18:13]
assbot	[BTC-dev] Results of First 'Deterministic Sync' Experiment, With Memory Consumption Plots. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKmuPH )	[18:13]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287947 << this is, virtually by definition, an impossibility.	[18:13]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 20:56:57; thestringpuller: can't wait till bitcoind is fully deturdified	[18:13]
ascii_field	(if it were rid of boost, openssl, bdb, and c++ entirely - it will not be 'bitcoind' in any familiar sense, but another thing entirely)	[18:13]
ascii_field	and Mysterious Serious People (tm) will eschew it	[18:14]
ascii_field	can't really blame'em either	[18:14]
ascii_field	it is important to remember why we came up with the whole shebang of 'fits-in-head 1-page' patches, 'v', the lot	[18:15]
ascii_field	it is more or less the only path from a known-genuine, pre-valuablebtc bitcoin client to something demonstrably degavinized	[18:16]
ascii_field	(as i understand, anyone who so much as touched bitcoind since $10 or so is guilty until proven innocent of being a gavin)	[18:19]
ascii_field	*source of	[18:20]
ascii_field	at least from the pov of Mysterious Serious People	[18:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36560 @ 0.00069123 = 25.2714 BTC [+]	[18:27]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:40]
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ascii_field	;;later tell ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287769 << this box appears to be down.	[18:40]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:40]
assbot	Logged on 29-09-2015 18:17:40; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell kakobrekla "coracle": 54.187.227.228	[18:40]
kakobrekla	not my fault!	[18:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1587 @ 0.0006913 = 1.0971 BTC [+] {2}	[18:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38613 @ 0.0006915 = 26.7009 BTC [+]	[18:44]
trinque	nmap says there's a box there	[18:48]
trinque	but no open port 8333	[18:48]
phf	ascii_field: saw it of course. i wanted to cut out the whole blkcut -> block -> eatblock roundtrip, plus i want to see how fast it can eat at saturation. which is surprisingly not fast at all	[18:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55700 @ 0.0006915 = 38.5166 BTC [+]	[19:04]
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BingoBoingo	Looks like BitBet has two new favored candiates for president: https://bitbet.us/bet/1205/marco-rubio-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/ https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/	[19:11]
assbot	BitBet - Marco Rubio will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 0.54 B (63%) on Yes, 0.32 B (37%) on No \| closing in 6 months 2 weeks \| weight: 97`101 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwMN1 )	[19:11]
assbot	BitBet - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 1.03 B (86%) on Yes, 0.17 B (14%) on No \| closing in 6 months 3 weeks \| weight: 98`768 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwPbF )	[19:11]
BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[19:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.0006896 = 26.9289 BTC [-] {3}	[19:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128764 @ 0.0006915 = 89.0403 BTC [+]	[19:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00068947 = 12.6173 BTC [-]	[20:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00068947 = 11.6176 BTC [-]	[20:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42382 @ 0.00068582 = 29.0664 BTC [-] {3}	[20:30]
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BingoBoingo	!up itkin	[20:36]
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BingoBoingo	http://m.snopes.com/prescott-bush-planned-parenthood/	[20:43]
assbot	Bush Babies : snopes.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwhJwY )	[20:43]
BingoBoingo	http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=262	[20:48]
assbot	JL: Running From The Cops #1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwiqGP )	[20:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11849 @ 0.0006835 = 8.0988 BTC [-]	[20:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2044 @ 0.00068887 = 1.4081 BTC [+]	[20:59]
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BingoBoingo	https://i.imgur.com/29o8SOa.jpg	[21:15]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1jwmqqI )	[21:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15108 @ 0.0006915 = 10.4472 BTC [+]	[21:21]
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assbot	Newly found TrueCrypt flaw allows full system compromise \| ITworld ... ( http://bit.ly/1KQcONi )	[21:28]
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assbot	It’s sleazy, it’s totally illegal, and yet it could become the future of retirement - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwpVNU )	[21:41]
BingoBoingo	jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.	[21:45]
deedbot-	[Qntra] Windows TrueCrypt Fatally Flawed - http://qntra.net/2015/09/windows-truecrypt-fatally-flawed/	[21:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0006915 = 3.5958 BTC [+]	[21:52]
BingoBoingo	jurov: I could see it. Tontines make some pretty good stories too.	[21:52]
BingoBoingo	In related news, the botanical season of fall started today in the front yard. First leaves on the Sweet Gum tree changed colors in the past three hours.	[21:59]
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BingoBoingo	https://i.imgur.com/9Nc2CZP.jpg	[22:07]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1QKbCzz )	[22:07]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1287999 << run moar winblowz! (tm) (r)	[22:14]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 00:27:08; jurov: ..aaand http://www.itworld.com/article/2987438/newly-found-truecrypt-flaw-allows-full-system-compromise.html	[22:14]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: How's the weather over there?	[22:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.0006915 = 14.5561 BTC [+]	[22:24]
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asciilifeform	http://www.coindesk.com/rogue-fbi-agent-searching-for-lost-bitcoin-silk-road-advisor-alleges << mega-brokentelephone-l0l	[22:34]
assbot	Rogue FBI Agent Searching for Lost Bitcoin, Silk Road Advisor Alleges ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFcdF9 )	[22:34]
asciilifeform	obligatory: ''How would they dare?' he said. 'I was such a pure and terrifying Aryan that they even put me in a special detachment. Its mission was to find out how the Jews always knew what the S.S. was going to do next There was a leak somewhere, and we were out to stop it' He looked bitter and affronted, remembering it, even though he had been that leak. 'Was the detachment successful in its mission?' I said. 'I'm happy to s	[22:35]
asciilifeform	(k. vonnegut. 'mother night.')	[22:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0006915 = 7.4682 BTC [+]	[22:36]
asciilifeform	'...'I'm happy to say,' said Arpad, 'that fourteen S.S. men were shot on our recommendation. Adolf Eichmann himself congratulated us. 'You met him, did you?' I said. 'Yes' said Arpad, 'and I'm sorry I didn't know at the time how important he was.' 'Why?' I said. 'I would have killed him,' said Arpad.'	[22:37]
asciilifeform	;;bc,stats	[22:39]
gribble	Current Blocks: {"blockcount":376772} \| Current Difficulty: {"difficulty":59335351233.86657} \| Next Difficulty At Block: None \| Next Difficulty In: None blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: None \| Next Difficulty Estimate: None \| Estimated Percent Change: None	[22:40]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288008 << not only is it still a thing, but there is TO THIS DAY nothing like an actual replacement for it.	[22:42]
assbot	Logged on 30-09-2015 00:43:28; BingoBoingo: jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.	[22:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.0006915 = 24.894 BTC [+]	[22:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00068887 = 3.8232 BTC [-]	[22:54]
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BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Well there's a popular and derpy for and than... just kinda forgot that niche existed	[22:55]
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*	BingoBoingo in a time before Bitcoin resorted to truecrypt as a "don't you dare spy on my Win Box Dorm neighbors" measure.	[23:08]
BingoBoingo	Obese Privilege http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/overweight-people-seen-as-too-fat-to-commit-crimes-a2956586.html	[23:15]
assbot	'Overweight' people seen as 'too fat' to commit crimes, study finds \| UK \| News \| London Evening Standard ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGZbUE )	[23:15]
trinque	damn, that's one hell of an ass-overflow	[23:17]
BingoBoingo	trinque: Reports are the UK has a still worse Obeast infestation than the US	[23:17]
mike_c	bitbettors can't do math. if trump is 50/50, why is jeb 5:1 to win? https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/	[23:24]
assbot	BitBet - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 1.03 B (86%) on Yes, 0.17 B (14%) on No \| closing in 6 months 3 weeks \| weight: 98`683 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwPbF )	[23:24]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: Don't forget Rubio	[23:31]
cazalla	http://i.imgur.com/aHCf6T7.jpg thank you steve, thank you	[23:31]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KJZixL )	[23:31]
mike_c	srsly, all the more reason to bet no, right?	[23:41]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: Seriously on Both bets.	[23:42]
*	BingoBoingo decided to for "yes" to Rubio rather than "no" on jeb with his stake though https://bitbet.us/stats/14BqjpHAeM2EC6aJkrzM7cbTeePQCJJs5C/	[23:43]
assbot	BitBet Stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1KK06Tn )	[23:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00068652 = 20.7672 BTC [-] {4}	[23:55]
trinque	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/30/us-un-assembly-idUSKCN0RT2MS20150930 << He added: "If it (Russia) is against the terrorists, it's not abnormal to launch strikes against them."	[23:58]
assbot	Powers struggle to agree on Syria; Russia urged to strike Islamic State	[23:58]

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