Forum logs for 29 Jan 2019
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| asciilifeform: | there we go. | [00:10] |
| asciilifeform: | !!down pehbot | [00:10] |
| * asciilifeform | to bed. | [00:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other lulz, http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-22-jan-2019#2512250 <--> http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-29#1890470 | [00:18] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-22 07:34 mircea_popescu: the problem is, cartels not particularly impressed with usg these days. all was needed to keep assad in power was russia, but a colombia-venezuela-mexico wondertriangle is a lot easier defended. | [00:18] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-29 03:04 BingoBoingo: The latest noise is stroked out John Bolton doing a press conference while holding a notepad with 5000 troops to Colombia written on it. https://archive.is/TYi6x | [00:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-28#1890447 << rather a meaningless move, venezuela confiscated degrees of magnitude more in "foreign investment" etc. | [00:29] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-28 17:47 BingoBoingo: Airstrip One probably made some smooth pitch about how doing so was the only demonstration they would accept if Vzla wanted access to their fx markets. But... unlike republican spain was not in the gold extraction business... empire running away and all that, Vzla is. | [00:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | problem is, you can only shoot hostage once. | [00:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, should be lulzy to see if china moves in to buy the oil. | [00:45] |
| BingoBoingo: | I see no reason they and Mexico wouldn't | [00:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, since there's ~0 results FROM ACTUAL FUCKING VENEZUELA on any kind of google/bing/duckduckgo/whatever the fuck for a search of venezuela, let's link here some actual venues : | [01:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://www.2001.com.ve/en-la-agenda/200698/colombia-dice-no-tener-informacion-sobre-anotacion-de-tropas-de-jhon-bolton.html | [01:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://www.eluniversal.com/politica/31689/maduro-nuestra-diplomacia-esta-basada-en-el-respeto-al-derecho-internacional | [01:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://www.correodelorinoco.gob.ve/presidente-maduro-retirar-la-serie-del-caribe-2019-de-venezuela-es-una-decision-ideologica/ | [01:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://www.ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/politica/mas-de-60-organizaciones-denunciaron-ante-cidh-golpe-de-estado-en-venezuela/ | [01:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://ciudadccs.info/reanudada-relacion-comercial-venezuela-aruba-curazao-bonaire/ | [01:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://www.meridiano.com.ve/chica-meridiano/734/Diana+Jaramillo.html | [01:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://www.liderendeportes.com/noticias/baseball/otorgan-a-panama-sede-de-la-serie-del-caribe/ | [01:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's certainly no better reason to read whatever http://trilema.com/2017/i-think-they-might-be-overdoing-it-in-places/#selection-35.0-35.52 esltards on the topic. exactly like that ro kid, they've got nothing to say an' no particular skill in sayin' it. | [01:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | point in case : Maryhen Jimenez Morales ("is a PhD candidate in politics at University of Oxford.") : " the system of personalised power and governance which the country has experienced for decades did not begin with Hugo Chavez The charismatic aristocrat Simon Bolivar He was a man in search of glory and a military officer who believed in top-down decision-making. The caudillo rule did not disappear with Bolivar's death | [02:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | . His successors, including Jose Antonio Paez, Antonio Guzman Blanco, or Juan Vincente Gomez followed in his footsteps towards personalised power. they were more preoccupied with personal aggrandisement than building strong institutions in the the nascent Venezuelan state. Personalised power, elitism and authoritarianism continued to dominate the Venezuelan political arena His only focus should be on building alliances | [02:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | and public consensus around the idea of restoring broad-based institutional democracy in Venezuela." bla bla bla bla bla in that inept vein untill she falls over. | [02:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other words, it's perfectly fucking clear ~what exactly~ the talking cunthead dun like about venezuela, and the world in general. | [02:00] |
| diana_coman: | yay, m-r on ffa now I'll really have to schedule ffa feast during breaks from work, lol | [02:26] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, that does explain why the CIA picked such a manicured numale in the tradition of Canada's princess, and France's Ms. Blakkked. Ty for feeding the local media outlets. | [10:38] |
| asciilifeform: | https://archive.is/Rn0Gp << for thread-completeness, orlol on ukrazuela. | [10:41] |
| asciilifeform: | '...Bolton did one better and called him “guiado” which could be Spanish for “remote-controlled.” (Was that a Freudian slip or just another one of Bolton’s senior moments?)' etc | [10:41] |
| BingoBoingo: | Meanwhile in local news, trash drama continues in other barrios https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/crisis-en-adeom-los-radicales-renunciaron-a-sus-cargos-y-varela-no-es-mas-el-presidente--201912819954 | [11:40] |
| BingoBoingo: | And police dude killed responding to a rapiña (which is a type of robbery) https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/mataron-a-un-policia-en-villa-espanol-2019128195541 | [11:43] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile as of ch16a: libffa : 5142 loc ffacalc : 1279 for total 6421 (incl. readme, manifest, comments.) | [11:53] |
| asciilifeform: | the only 'heavy' component remaining to weld on, is keccakism. | [12:14] |
| asciilifeform: | guten tag , mircea_popescu | [12:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | hola! | [12:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | so apparently took >1k pics on latest harem outing. wtf am i gonna do / | [12:19] |
| asciilifeform: | animatedgif!111 | [12:20] |
| asciilifeform: | ( shrink'em to 64x64 pixels and... ) | [12:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | bahahaha what is this, brasil ? | [12:20] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [12:21] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu et al : anybody have a handy piece of bash to count ~nonempty~ lines in a dir ? | [12:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | in all files in a dir you mean ? | [12:24] |
| asciilifeform: | aha, recurse | [12:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | find . -name '*.php' | xargs wc -l or w/e it is you want | [12:24] |
| asciilifeform: | that dundoit | [12:24] |
| asciilifeform: | it counts empties | [12:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | empty line is what, nothing but 0x04 on it ? | [12:25] |
| asciilifeform: | 0a yea | [12:25] |
| mod6: | I think something like `grep -v "^$"` will give you all the non-empty lines from a file. | [12:26] |
| mod6: | Just combine that with your find/xargs and you should have it. | [12:27] |
| asciilifeform: | nope | [12:27] |
| asciilifeform: | gives entire file. | [12:27] |
| mod6: | aight. | [12:27] |
| asciilifeform: | grep -P '\S' file apparently does tho. | [12:28] |
| asciilifeform: | cat * | grep -P '\S' | wc -l in ea. dir does the job. | [12:30] |
| asciilifeform: | this gives 4013 (libffa) , 1047 (ffacalc) . | [12:30] |
| asciilifeform: | approx. what i estimated. | [12:30] |
| asciilifeform: | comments ( grep -P '^\s*--' ) turn out to be 1835 ln in libffa and 390 in ffacalc. | [12:34] |
| asciilifeform: | ada does not permit multiline comments a la cpp, so this was easier than expected. | [12:35] |
| BingoBoingo: | So 4013 lines of which 1835 are comments and 1047 of which 390 are comments? | [12:37] |
| asciilifeform: | correct | [12:37] |
| BingoBoingo: | tyvm | [12:37] |
| asciilifeform: | total mass of the sores, to complete the thread, stands at 256kB. | [12:39] |
| asciilifeform: | ( just about exactly. ) | [12:39] |
| feedbot: | http://qntra.net/2019/01/constant-time-miller-rabin-test-added-to-finite-field-arithmetic/ << Qntra -- Constant Time Miller-Rabin Test Added To Finite Field Arithmetic | [12:41] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [12:41] |
| BingoBoingo: | What lol, biggest possible news of the day. | [12:42] |
| asciilifeform: | heh | [12:42] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: to nitpick, s/in Barrett's Modular Reduction/in modular exponentiation/ , koch dun use barrett ( he uses montgomery, which dies on even numbers, lol ) | [12:44] |
| BingoBoingo: | ty, fxd | [12:45] |
| BingoBoingo: | Until mp handles his camera roll, this is looking like the second place contender http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BDawt/?raw=true | [12:48] |
| asciilifeform: | what was this ? | [12:49] |
| BingoBoingo: | Drama at Duke med school, email sent to students by some apparachick | [12:50] |
| BingoBoingo: | Apparently they want the Chicoms accomodate the white worm desire for an English Single Language bubble | [12:52] |
| asciilifeform: | at asciilifeform's local uni, even decade ago engineering, maffs, etc. were ~solid china ( + a bit of india ). these days even moar solid -- evidently they didn't get the memo yet, that miami is full | [12:52] |
| BingoBoingo: | Do the Chinese and Indians even want Miami? I suspect they have their own favored cities for capture. | [12:54] |
| asciilifeform: | the greater miami. | [12:54] |
| asciilifeform: | y'know, that thing they think they're going to when they buy ticket. | [12:55] |
| BingoBoingo: | aha | [12:55] |
| BingoBoingo: | For a sample of the local memes https://i.redd.it/sy0ltggru9d21.jpg The larger pink area in the overlay is "Departamento 21 de Uruguay" | [12:57] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: elaborate ? | [12:59] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: Given Argentina's long sink into irrelevancy, the locals tend to think of Argentina as a diseased extension of Uruguay. | [13:00] |
| asciilifeform: | aa lol | [13:02] |
| BingoBoingo: | A lot of the current Uruguayo malaise is being blamed on Mujica/RaulSendic/Kircher/Macri Kirchner and Macri can flip places, but that's roughly the order of blame assignment | [13:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | Though this week the big fount of discontent is the heatwave and blue freshwater of Montevideo's beaches. | [13:13] |
| BingoBoingo: | (To be clear the blue problem is Cyanobacteria) | [13:14] |
| BingoBoingo: | My chunk of the Rio de la Plata has a problem which is the bane of retention ponds and small creeks back in old country | [13:15] |
| asciilifeform: | re argintines, somehow i entirely escaped finding out about 'villa-31' ( http://ru-ar.ru/villa31 notbad www re subj ) , rio-style favela right inside b-a | [13:16] |
| * BingoBoingo | was under the impression most cities containing over 250,000 bipeds were majority favela by land area | [13:27] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: seems like it'sa right & proper favela, complete with zero signs on Official maps & 100% pinched mains current | [13:28] |
| BingoBoingo: | On this side of the river they keep the streets labeled while doing 100% pinched mains current. At least until the police do one of their post-dawn raids on a local "boca de pasta" and the electricity police accompany to "regularize" the pinched mains. | [13:30] |
| asciilifeform: | the ru d00d's www is interesting, he makes living in buenosaires by giving ru folx guided tours. and his descriptions of the place moar or less concur with mircea_popescu's : 'unprofessionalism in all possible venues: quality of service in restaurant lawyers who have nfi about law clerks who cannot count cabbies that ask you to show'em the way barbers who cannot shave... you will wonder why argentines in the airport coming back f | [13:31] |
| asciilifeform: | rom eu are carrying vacuum cleaners, tv sets, computers... country of deficits, like ye olde su' | [13:31] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: apparently 'villa-31' standing for half century+ with 0 raids | [13:32] |
| BingoBoingo: | The Uruguayo raids are a new phenomenon | [13:33] |
| BingoBoingo: | Apparently at some point the local socialists called up Rudy Giulianni for advice on countering petty crime. But... the pichis still get their pasta base and the number of rapiñas keep climbing. | [13:36] |
| BingoBoingo: | And the kids from Cerro keep coming into Pocitos and Buceo to spray the name of their Barrio on my Rambla | [13:38] |
| * BingoBoingo | doubts spray painting "Pocitos" on everything in Cerro would deter them instead of encouraging the behavior. Most of the graffiti from my earliest walks in Montevideo survives, including and especially the low effort tagging. | [13:40] |
| spyked: | apologies for the feedbot join-part spam. the latest outage has helped me discover a subtle bug in pm message delivery feedbot checks whether a nick is online using the ison irc command, and it didn't handle the corner case when the ison response is empty. | [13:43] |
| spyked: | service should be restored now. | [13:44] |
| feedbot: | http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-june-july-and-august-1715-part-iv/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of June, July and August, 1715. - Part IV. | [16:46] |
| mod6: | -19 deg F., tonight -30 | [18:47] |
| mod6: | my hands are so numb, can barely even type. | [18:47] |
| BingoBoingo: | Extraño el frío verdad. | [18:53] |
| mod6: | Si? | [19:01] |
| BingoBoingo: | The lack of freeze here seems to contribute to the softness of the locals | [19:09] |
| mod6: | I can imagine. | [19:09] |
| asciilifeform: | mod6: evidently you dun have enuff comps running!11 | [19:18] |
| * asciilifeform | finds himself frequently opening window in torture room even in winter | [19:19] |
| mod6: | lol. | [19:19] |
| mod6: | im building a cuntoo right now. | [19:19] |
| asciilifeform: | neato | [19:19] |
| mod6: | trying to generate some more heat | [19:19] |
| mod6: | gotta get some miners in here | [19:19] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [19:20] |
| * asciilifeform | has no miners, but kilowatt or so of old-fashioned pc, + displays | [19:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-29#1890605 << pretty sure i included pics. | [19:37] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-29 18:16 asciilifeform: re argintines, somehow i entirely escaped finding out about 'villa-31' ( http://ru-ar.ru/villa31 notbad www re subj ) , rio-style favela right inside b-a | [19:37] |
| asciilifeform: | oh hm was ~that~ where 'river of piss' | [19:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | the problem is not even that it exists, but that it fails to produce the mireilles d'arc one'd expect, ie slender hungry young hotties. | [19:37] |
| asciilifeform: | the linked ru d00d confirms, apparently filled with 'metre + hat' fuglies | [19:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform that was right next to a "high value" site of pomposity further north in truth there's a LOT of these in the city of "nightlife" that dun exist and "university professors" with the socks bought on credit. | [19:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | https://www.elles-se-mettent-nues-pour-nous.fr/photos/actrice/m_darc_bonus.jpg << mireille d'arc, for the innocent. | [19:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-29#1890610 << nothing like ye olde su. 100% like ye present us / somalia / zululand etc. | [19:41] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-29 18:31 asciilifeform: rom eu are carrying vacuum cleaners, tv sets, computers... country of deficits, like ye olde su' | [19:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | deficits, principally biological. old su, deficits principally material. | [19:41] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu's episode with the space heater was distinctly reminiscent of late-su | [19:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | because improvised heaters because insane law against heating because etc. | [19:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | whereas argentards, no law, they supply the constraint naturally -- be being indescribable morons. | [19:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | similarily they don't WRITE anything. su had samizdat BECAUSE REASONS. argentina doesn't have it, nor does it have said reasons. because NO NEED to. might as well pass legislation to forbid cattle the making of stalin jokes. | [19:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | when's the last time a cow made a stalin joke ? | [19:45] |
| asciilifeform: | i find it mind-boggling that 'biological deficit'. where , for instance, did the 2+mil germans go ? | [19:48] |
| asciilifeform: | extinct ? how? | [19:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have nfi. | [19:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | and for all the "white supremacist" morons : no fucking wonder they dun wanna discuss argentina. | [19:49] |
| asciilifeform: | by any reasonable expectation, place oughta have turned into n-th reich, compl. with biergartens & lederhosen | [19:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | whiter than 80%+ of the us as dumb as anything in the congo basin. | [19:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suspect the italians are a terrible import. | [19:50] |
| asciilifeform: | the italians went in 1st tho, neh? | [19:50] |
| asciilifeform: | mid-1800s | [19:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | they kept wenting, 1800s through 1950s. | [19:50] |
| asciilifeform: | http://ru-ar.ru/armia << lulzy, .ar army , '40s-'50s | [19:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-29#1890613 << in any approach, this is roughly the issue in vzla also : socialists tryna hard to discuss their internal problems, wholly owned and entirely due TO SOCIALISM in terms of external influence. trotsky was "fascist" don't you know, and maduro is "authoritarian" and whatnot. | [19:51] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-29 18:36 BingoBoingo: Apparently at some point the local socialists called up Rudy Giulianni for advice on countering petty crime. But... the pichis still get their pasta base and the number of rapiñas keep climbing. | [19:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | bullshit. thew problem with socialism, "authoritatian" or "democratic" or blue or green is THAT IT IS SOCIALISM. | [19:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | as proven by the fact that ~any~ non-socialism, authoritarian, democratic or howsoever else, is just fucking fine. | [19:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | but no, gotta talk around the bush, "how should a streetwalker to her make-up to improve her marriage prospects." | [19:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | cuz totally it's because of the makeup, wut. | [19:53] |
| asciilifeform: | 'ru-ar' d00d described 'month -- euphoria, then reality sets in when so happens you want a faucet fixed, or tooth capped, or to buy power brick for lappy' etc | [20:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | quite. | [20:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's hard to imagine you're in a 20mn strong stockyards sprawling 2-3x the surface area of new york | [20:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's constantly a "man, i must just not know where the society gathers / parties are / nightlife happens" etc. | [20:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | this lasts as long as it lasts, but if you're actually me and task girls with finding it, and then they (incomprehensibly, and inexplicably) fail and so you cut the town up into squares and have them search it square by square and still NOTHJING turns up, eventually however many months later you can answer authoritatively : the stockyards are bereft of society. | [20:08] |
| BingoBoingo: | Anyways, some ESL leftists picked up something a Uruguayo "scientific historian"/"national systems" professor wrote in an English translation. It's being chopped up for blog. | [20:09] |
| asciilifeform: | 'best magician cannot pull rabbit from hat unless there is actually a rabit in the hat' or how did it go. | [20:09] |
| asciilifeform: | fwiw i liked ar as a coupla-day thing, but can't picture it being so great to have to get on a plane erry time want tooth filled , buy some irons, etc | [20:12] |
| asciilifeform: | i dun have a squadron of searchers to 'square by square', either. | [20:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | you also had the benefit of you know, passive enjoyment of ye above work. | [20:37] |
| asciilifeform: | verily | [20:52] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/la-paz-adica-pacea/ << Trilema -- La Paz, adica pacea. | [22:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile in child porn, http://images.igavelauctions.com/x/161/Co44972/x38a.jpg | [22:55] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2978&cpage=1#comment-19781 | [23:07] |
| asciilifeform: | ( iirc somebody asked diana_coman same q once ) | [23:07] |
| feedbot: | http://thewhet.net/2019/01/recreation/ << The Whet -- Recreation | [23:55] |
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