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Now talking on #bitcoin-assets |
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Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading |
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Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013 |
[06:21] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.0055 = 0.121 BTC |
[06:21] |
| ThickAsThieves |
according to the article* |
[06:21] |
| the20year |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yuozv/mtgox_just_proceeded_a_bunch_of_jpy_withdrawal/ |
[06:21] |
| ozbot |
Mt.Gox just proceeded a bunch of JPY withdrawal today : Bitcoin |
[06:21] |
| jurov |
hi mircea_popescu, all according to plan? |
[06:21] |
| mircea_popescu |
jurov what specifically ? |
[06:21] |
| Bugpowder |
lol |
[06:22] |
| jurov |
gox is done |
[06:22] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00515 = 1.03 BTC [-] |
[06:22] |
| greenspan_fan |
have you heard about mt gox? |
[06:22] |
| Apocalyptic |
mircea_popescu, you missed some drama |
[06:22] |
| mircea_popescu |
i just woke up! |
[06:22] |
| dexX7 |
haha |
[06:22] |
| ThickAsThieves |
wake up faster! |
[06:22] |
| mircea_popescu |
>< |
[06:22] |
| Apocalyptic |
it's a shitstorm out there |
[06:22] |
| greenspan_fan |
this should be like christmas for you |
[06:22] |
| mircea_popescu |
so i should wake up for the derpage ? |
[06:22] |
| ThickAsThieves |
www.gox.com |
[06:22] |
| asciilifeform |
let the man sleep, folks. he sleeps, what, once a week? |
[06:22] |
| mircea_popescu |
what is this, derpworld ? |
[06:22] |
| mircea_popescu |
lmao |
[06:23] |
| greenspan_fan |
a really suspicious slide deck about mt gox going under surfaced |
[06:23] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.0051335 = 0.3491 BTC [-] {2} |
[06:23] |
| mircea_popescu |
derp. |
[06:23] |
| ThickAsThieves |
he doesnt need sleep, just to avoid sunlight |
[06:23] |
| greenspan_fan |
seems like it was legit; they've essentially gone dark |
[06:23] |
| mircea_popescu |
listen, all this is a lot less exciting if YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEM |
[06:23] |
| mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves now i have to kill you. |
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| ThickAsThieves |
turn me |
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| mircea_popescu |
lol |
[06:23] |
| ThickAsThieves |
:) |
[06:23] |
| mircea_popescu |
i just tried to log into twitter as mircea popsicu |
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| Apocalyptic |
mircea_popescu, I would like your opinion on https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhl8b6k1rya78xc/209050732-MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft.pdf |
[06:24] |
| asciilifeform |
'for what have i prepared this beautiful golden stake?' |
[06:24] |
| Vexual |
bugpowders running gox add on matlab |
[06:24] |
| mircea_popescu |
lmao |
[06:24] |
| greenspan_fan |
so did you hear about this in advance? |
[06:25] |
| kakobrekla |
o, now we have gif http://i.imgur.com/T2RudcB.gif |
[06:25] |
| ThickAsThieves |
nice! |
[06:25] |
| greenspan_fan |
it seemed like the btc foundation peopel knew |
[06:25] |
| mircea_popescu |
lol good gif |
[06:25] |
| asciilifeform |
goes well with that other bouncyball gif |
[06:26] |
| asciilifeform |
the one with the dildo |
[06:26] |
| greenspan_fan |
given that they all prepared joint statements |
[06:26] |
| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan basically, mtgox demise was decided april 2013, at the secret conference nobody went to. |
[06:26] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 75 @ 0.0055 = 0.4125 BTC |
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| mod6 |
lol @ gif |
[06:26] |
| mircea_popescu |
and the fact that the scammer troop has coordinated ballet on the topic is really just a sign of how fucking stupid they are. |
[06:26] |
| greenspan_fan |
they had to revise their statements after release |
[06:27] |
| mircea_popescu |
point in case. |
[06:27] |
| greenspan_fan |
presumably on the advice of lawyers |
[06:27] |
| mircea_popescu |
kinda the only reason i like vessenes. he's so fucking dumb. |
[06:27] |
| ThickAsThieves |
on the advice of me! |
[06:27] |
| greenspan_fan |
wait, you're not a lawyer? |
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| the20year |
did the buildabetterburgers take down gox? |
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| Vexual |
flee immediately! |
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| mircea_popescu |
thickaslawyers ? |
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| ThickAsThieves |
lawyersasthieves |
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| mircea_popescu |
sas is good... |
[06:28] |
| greenspan_fan |
hey man, some of my best friends are thieves |
[06:28] |
| dexX7 |
https://twitter.com/magicalgox/status/438161500537380864 wtf |
[06:28] |
| ozbot |
Twitter / MagicalGox: Send me 1BTC and I will resolve ... |
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| Bugpowder |
dexX7: fake accy |
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| Vexual |
Bugpowder, is matlab saying when yet? |
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| ThickAsThieves |
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57619465-93/bitcoin-exchange-mt-gox-offline-amid-insolvency-charges/ |
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| ozbot |
Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox offline amid 'insolvency' charges | Internet & Media - CNET News |
[06:29] |
| mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder kinda what happens when you delete your posts, you know ? people start the takeover. |
[06:30] |
| Bugpowder |
Vexual: Still doing experiments |
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| Bugpowder |
haven't tracked it yet |
[06:30] |
| ThickAsThieves |
pdf claims 700k btc lost over "years" |
[06:31] |
| mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves it is roughly true. |
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copumpkin is now known as daddy |
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| mircea_popescu |
not that that's an excuse for anything. |
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daddy is now known as copumpkin |
[06:31] |
| greenspan_fan |
what is interesting, though, is that you might be able to follow the block chain from the earlier transactions |
[06:31] |
| greenspan_fan |
I'm betting julian assange did it, to fund his jihad against america |
[06:32] |
| mircea_popescu |
lol |
[06:32] |
| mircea_popescu |
it's their nest egg. |
[06:32] |
| greenspan_fan |
bitcoin becomes the national currency of ecuador and he flees britain as a citizen |
[06:32] |
| ThickAsThieves |
maybe he'll have a co-press relase with snowden |
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| asciilifeform |
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/iranians-hacked-navy-network-for-4-months-not-a-surprise/ |
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| ozbot |
Iranians hacked Navy network for four months? Not a surprise. | Ars Technica |
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| greenspan_fan |
no man, snowden's satoshi |
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| asciilifeform |
tldr: run more winblows, usg |
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| greenspan_fan |
he's got his own bitcoins |
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| ThickAsThieves |
snowtoshi |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10975 BTC [+] |
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| dexX7 |
there is also this post from wsj earlier: http://archive.is/NLLpV - "According to documents seen by The Wall Street Journal, Tibanne Co., which operates Mt. Gox, is expected to generate a small profit in the fiscal year ending in March from exchange transaction fees. The forecast, however, assumes bitcoin prices well above current levels." |
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| greenspan_fan |
https://www.tibanne.com/article/7/we-re-hiring- |
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| ozbot |
Tibanne Co. Ltd. |
[06:34] |
| ThickAsThieves |
lol |
[06:34] |
| nubbins` |
hiring what, liquidators? |
[06:34] |
| ThickAsThieves |
CSS3 needed! |
[06:34] |
| mircea_popescu |
forum experts. |
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| greenspan_fan |
Ability to comment properly work is important |
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| greenspan_fan |
so when's the mpex ipo for gox.com? |
[06:35] |
| mircea_popescu |
heh. |
[06:35] |
| nubbins` |
still say that pdf is bogus |
[06:36] |
| mircea_popescu |
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2165830363/Peter-Portrait.jpg << seriously, look at this guy. doesn't he look like the 110 iq barrier is a bridge too far ? |
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| ThickAsThieves |
an IPO to buy the domain after scammers are done with it? |
[06:36] |
| Vexual |
nub, i think it'd be hard to miss that much btc over time |
[06:36] |
| mircea_popescu |
wasn't i explaining before how goxshit isn't worth money ? |
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| asciilifeform |
unrelated, but relevant to 'interesting times': http://bloodandtreasure.typepad.com/blood_treasure/2004/09/further_chronic.html |
[06:36] |
| mircea_popescu |
Vexual we knew they were in the red. |
[06:36] |
| greenspan_fan |
it was a joke |
[06:36] |
| Vexual |
and they knew? |
[06:36] |
| mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/mtgox-and-ancient-bitcoin-history-the-straight-dope/ |
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| ozbot |
MtGox and ancient Bitcoin history - the straight dope. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
[06:37] |
| mircea_popescu |
time to re-read this. |
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| greenspan_fan |
and that guy looks like he's experienced a couple "non-standard deviations" |
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| mircea_popescu |
yes vex. they were in the red up until late 2012. |
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| mircea_popescu |
i suppose that article may read differently in light of events. |
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| nubbins` |
"Successive emperors became the captors of various factions of eunuchs." |
[06:37] |
| nubbins` |
the type of shit that'd put House of Cards to shame |
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| Apocalyptic |
and that guy looks like he's experienced a couple "non-standard deviations" // heh |
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| mircea_popescu |
nubbins` what is house of cards anyway ? |
[06:38] |
| greenspan_fan |
did you see the latest season? I'd say it was a contender, even sans eunuchs |
[06:39] |
| mircea_popescu |
coupla titters on twitter keep derping about it. |
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| greenspan_fan |
also, I think it's supposed to be GNU/eunuchs |
[06:39] |
| mircea_popescu |
aaaahahahaha |
[06:39] |
| nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: netflix-only television show based on a bbc television show based on a novel. the netflix version centers around u.s. political intrigue, specifically kevin spacey's machinations towards the presidency |
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| greenspan_fan |
with significant inspiration from caro's biography of lyndon johnson |
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| nubbins` |
worth watching, we swallowed season 2 over about 4 days |
[06:40] |
| mircea_popescu |
oh |
[06:40] |
| nubbins` |
lots of intrigue, subterfuge, etc |
[06:40] |
| greenspan_fan |
anyone else read that biography? |
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| ThickAsThieves |
http://imgur.com/xFp7iVc |
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| ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
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| greenspan_fan |
hahaha |
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| mircea_popescu |
ajhahaha |
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| mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves you got a twittar ? |
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| nubbins` |
greenspan_fan: never read the bio, HoC s2 was great tho |
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| nubbins` |
they've been renewed for a third, hey? |
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| malaimo |
mariorz Mats_cd03 maximian MCM-Mike michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mius mixdio_ mjoiii mjr_ MobGod mod6 moneycat montgomery mpexbot |
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| ThickAsThieves |
i have only the altcoin twatter |
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| greenspan_fan |
nubbins I am angry that I'll have to wait for a year, though |
[06:42] |
| mircea_popescu |
what was it again ? |
[06:42] |
| greenspan_fan |
you must be the only altcoin creator without 10,000 sockpuppets |
[06:42] |
| ThickAsThieves |
@therealaltcoin |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 18 @ 0.16230094 = 2.9214 BTC [-] |
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| the20year |
the20year2 thecluck TheSeven thestringpuller ThickAsThieves thoa_afk |
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| mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438172294050234368 |
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| assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00088332 = 18.5497 BTC [-] {2} |
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| nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/CWzXmDV |
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| ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
[06:44] |
| nubbins` |
daww ;( |
[06:44] |
| ThickAsThieves |
lol |
[06:44] |
| greenspan_fan |
isn't that like the clown from those stephen king novels? |
[06:44] |
| nubbins` |
^ this is the proper way to deal with this issue, not a fucking cloudflare snapshot |
[06:44] |
| mircea_popescu |
lol |
[06:44] |
| nubbins` |
what's a snapshot of an exchange website going to do for me? |
[06:44] |
| mircea_popescu |
nubbins` you actually got that ? or was it a lol ? |
[06:44] |
| Vexual |
i wonder if magicdunce will shoot thru? he must have thousands of high res passports |
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| nubbins` |
at least make me feel bad |
[06:45] |
| nubbins` |
mircea_popescu it's real! |
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transito is now known as transisto |
[06:45] |
| nubbins` |
i thought the twitter fail whale was neat |
[06:45] |
| nubbins` |
this is next-level |
[06:45] |
| ThickAsThieves |
"Interestingly the folks at secondmarket called me today to say that there will be a one week halt on all new BIT purchases and their trading department is no longer taking any new positions." |
[06:45] |
| ThickAsThieves |
from a friend of mine |
[06:45] |
| ThickAsThieves |
(not trolling) |
[06:45] |
| mircea_popescu |
i wonder if magicdunce will shoot thru? he must have thousands of high res passports <<< EPIC |
[06:45] |
| ThickAsThieves |
i wonder if 2ndmarket used gox |
[06:45] |
| ThickAsThieves |
biglolz! |
[06:45] |
| mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves they did yes. |
[06:46] |
| mircea_popescu |
because they know better. |
[06:46] |
| ThickAsThieves |
hahahahaha |
[06:46] |
| ThickAsThieves |
ahahah |
[06:46] |
| mircea_popescu |
you know how like a certain fucktarded ceo is making his own stock exchgange ? cause he knows better ? |
[06:46] |
| mircea_popescu |
you know how ycombinator isn't hiring BingoBoingo to tell them what's what ? |
[06:46] |
| mircea_popescu |
you know how the twinkleloss brothers don't feel like they need to be here ? |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC [-] {2} |
[06:46] |
| mircea_popescu |
that's exactly how second market thinks it knows better than me |
[06:46] |
| mircea_popescu |
the common word describing these is, of course, stupidity. |
[06:46] |
| greenspan_fan |
you could make your website prettier, at least |
[06:47] |
| Bones_ |
If everyone was in here, then we wouldn't make as much money? |
[06:47] |
| greenspan_fan |
and while you're at it, make your blog free |
[06:47] |
| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan or i could add spikes on my cock, to leave better marks on assholes. |
[06:47] |
| mircea_popescu |
either way. |
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| ThickAsThieves |
you could lose a cock that way |
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| greenspan_fan |
but gox was able to siphon off 700 000 btc because they had javascript and css basically |
[06:48] |
| ThickAsThieves |
be careful |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 546 @ 0.00445591 = 2.4329 BTC [-] {20} |
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| ThickAsThieves |
@Mircea_Popescu @therealaltcoin Lol even google image can tell its peter |
[06:49] |
| ThickAsThieves |
winnar |
[06:49] |
| ThickAsThieves |
pay google 1000 ATC |
[06:49] |
| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan you have to take into consideration 80+% of that was when btc was < $1 |
[06:50] |
| Vexual |
still a lot of milkshakes |
[06:50] |
| mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves if google tweets @me i will sure. |
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| Bugpowder |
OK... let's get back to racking these cold wallets |
[06:50] |
| ThickAsThieves |
k |
[06:50] |
| ThickAsThieves |
we'll read your findings really hard |
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| Vexual |
why .info? |
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| nubbins` |
ah, bc.info has edited their statement as well |
[06:51] |
| nubbins` |
no more mention of insolvency |
[06:51] |
| greenspan_fan |
mircea_popescu but surely you have some pretty sick programmers working for you? idk much about web frontends, so idk if it's bad security |
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| benkay |
much drama and lulz today? |
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| Apocalyptic |
amateur communication |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00518998 = 0.2387 BTC [+] |
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| Apocalyptic |
if you knew benkay .. |
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| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan what do you mean ? |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00518998 = 0.2284 BTC [+] |
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| greenspan_fan |
mircea_popescu presumably if you/your employees could implement a sophisticated exchange (with all the countermeasures in order to ensure continuous operation) you could at least add some css to mpex.co |
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| mircea_popescu |
provided i wanted to. |
[06:53] |
| mircea_popescu |
nubbins` da fuck is bc.info |
[06:54] |
| ThickAsThieves |
cockchain |
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| nubbins` |
i abbreviated blockchain.info |
[06:54] |
| nubbins` |
kind of forgot that it makes a link that people can click ;( |
[06:54] |
| mircea_popescu |
a. |
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| ThickAsThieves |
lol http://cockchain.info/ |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 765 @ 0.00522621 = 3.9981 BTC [+] {3} |
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| Vexual |
i guess bp dont want prtd matleb on a machine that has blockchain |
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| greenspan_fan |
at this point idk whether it's positive (as a mark of differentiation) or whether you're losing business because it seems like it's pre-1999 |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.00525893 = 0.7047 BTC [+] {3} |
[06:56] |
| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan what business am i losing ? |
[06:56] |
| Vexual |
sub 140iq sub 50btc |
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| Apocalyptic |
.d |
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| ozbot |
3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 598 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.5183% in 3d 7h 2m 4s |
[06:57] |
| mircea_popescu |
leading question : how much business is nyse losing by not having a drive-thru presence in most shopping malls ? |
[06:57] |
| Vexual |
12? |
[06:57] |
| mircea_popescu |
leading question #2 : what could the concept of "Accredited investor" mean in bitcoin, and how would one go about meaningfully implementing it ? |
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| Apocalyptic |
nice analogy mircea |
[06:58] |
| greenspan_fan |
I actually bought some options for ibm at wal-mart earlier today, so times are changing |
[06:58] |
| mircea_popescu |
pankkake pls to 1000 atc to 1CgNLdNUaXFawURSBuX4xBHv53GhGZ3XuC ty |
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| jurov |
greenspan_fan: clearly there's market gap for you to exploit |
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| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_ the times are only changing in the sense the us is going under. |
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| mircea_popescu |
there is such a thing as eternal truths. |
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| Jakamoko |
javax jayk jcpham Jere_Jones jespern Jezzz jimeh jjjjjjnnj joesmoe_ jordandotdev jurov |
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| mircea_popescu |
but yes, as the j man says, nothing keeps you from doing brokerage for any market segment you identify and think you can serve. |
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| greenspan_fan |
putting it another way, given your thoughts re: art, you could consider patronizing some pre-autistic teenager with a color palette and a dream |
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| Bones_ |
greenspan_fan - if anything his website exudes "dude who knows what the fuck he is doing". Not to suck your dick or anything mp but anyway that's how I saw the website |
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| ThickAsThieves |
to #2, measured by your bitcoin holdings, no? |
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| benkay |
it's pretty easy |
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| benkay |
an accredited bitcoin investor accumulates bitcoins |
[07:00] |
| benkay |
they are accredited by virtue of having and accumulating bitcoins |
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| mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves inasmuch as one intends to measure sophistication, bitcoin holdings alone would show on the historical record an insufficient measure. |
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| fract4l |
mircea_popescu: did you predict GOX demise?? |
[07:00] |
| mircea_popescu |
why ty Bones_ |
[07:00] |
| mircea_popescu |
fract4l no. i announced it. |
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| benkay |
that's why the accumulation's important, mircea_popescu |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 404 @ 0.0053995 = 2.1814 BTC [-] {2} |
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| copumpkin |
joe shmoe mined 10000 coins on his old laptop in 2009 as a joke |
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| copumpkin |
he's accredited |
[07:01] |
| copumpkin |
cause he has a lot of money |
[07:01] |
| mircea_popescu |
provided he didn't lose the laptop |
[07:01] |
| copumpkin |
seems a little awkward :) |
[07:01] |
| mircea_popescu |
(which most did) |
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| benkay |
copumpkin you missed the part about accumulation. |
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| greenspan_fan |
Bones_ only because he's influential enough that people ought to be aware |
[07:01] |
| mircea_popescu |
i just got an email from a friend, it goes "hey can i have like 10-20 bux worth of bitcoin cause im testing this service and i lost all the btc i mined on my laptop back in the day" |
[07:02] |
| mircea_popescu |
tru story. inbox of this morn. |
[07:02] |
| copumpkin |
mircea_popescu: hey, can you send me 10 coins? thanks |
[07:02] |
| ThickAsThieves |
satoshi still emails you? |
[07:02] |
| mircea_popescu |
lol |
[07:02] |
| mircea_popescu |
lmao |
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| nubbins` |
heh! |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2879 @ 0.00539996 = 15.5465 BTC [+] |
[07:02] |
| mircea_popescu |
copumpkin no more bentleys for you! |
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| jurov |
!b 7 |
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| copumpkin |
mircea_popescu: :( |
[07:03] |
| copumpkin |
I should sell my MPOE |
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| nubbins` |
too slow ;( |
[07:03] |
| copumpkin |
but I can't bring myself to |
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[07:03] |
| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan but srsly, it's legitimate. if you think you can help some people do shit, help them. nothing wrong with that. |
[07:03] |
| mircea_popescu |
a large chunk of the way i designed mpex is so as to empower people to grow their own stuff |
[07:03] |
| mircea_popescu |
rather than try and corner the entire market. cornered markets don't grow. |
[07:04] |
| Bones_ |
see https://coinbr.com/ |
[07:04] |
| jurov |
he insist to help you to proper css, you know |
[07:04] |
| mircea_popescu |
if anything ima take the website down eventually. |
[07:04] |
| mircea_popescu |
just... whatever, it's there. |
[07:04] |
| fract4l |
interesting that MP, the #1 hated guy on the forums, turns out to have more integrity then anyone thought...... |
[07:04] |
| fract4l |
he also has spot-on predictions |
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| mircea_popescu |
fract4l isn't that how things normally work out ? |
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| copumpkin |
I trust mircea_popescu to be honest |
[07:05] |
| copumpkin |
he's just a little odd |
[07:05] |
| copumpkin |
but he thinks the same about me |
[07:05] |
| mircea_popescu |
you can say asshole, i dun mind. |
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| fract4l |
mircea_popescu: haha... i suppose so. maybe your picture on the camel made people not take you seriously? |
[07:05] |
| copumpkin |
nah, you're not 100% asshole |
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| mircea_popescu |
fract4l when am i on a camel ?! |
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| Bones_ |
lol |
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| jurov |
lool |
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| nubbins` |
^ HEH |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 442 @ 0.00539998 = 2.3868 BTC [+] {2} |
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| mircea_popescu |
copumpkin not even women are 100% women you know ? |
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| jurov |
!b 10 |
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| ninjashogun |
hi guys |
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| nubbins` |
it was a horse, ya racist! |
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| Apocalyptic |
fract4l, how dare you, that's a great picture |
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| mircea_popescu |
hi ninjashogun |
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| copumpkin |
mircea_popescu: didn't think so! |
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| ThickAsThieves |
sup ninja |
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| ninjashogun |
hi mircea_popescu hi ThickAsThieves |
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| ninjashogun |
Not much ThickAsThieves . I'm raising $50K for a new job web site based on applied graph theory (not to relationships/connections - something else) |
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| ThickAsThieves |
OneFixt did you at least diversify into other exchanges already? |
[07:06] |
| ThickAsThieves |
<@OneFixt> ThickAsThieves: a tiny bit |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3316 @ 0.00539996 = 17.9063 BTC [-] {3} |
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| fract4l |
Apocalyptic: hey, personally i think the camel picture is hilarious.... |
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| ThickAsThieves |
i trolled the guy enough you'd think he'd have learned... |
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| fract4l |
ThickAsThieves: did you lose any coin on gox? |
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| Bugpowder |
OneFixt lost his coins?!? Oh man. |
[07:07] |
| ThickAsThieves |
lol |
[07:07] |
| Bugpowder |
The BITCOIN ORACLE |
[07:07] |
| Bugpowder |
Couldn't see the shut down coming |
[07:07] |
| Apocalyptic |
Bugpowder, he claimed to have almost everything in gox |
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| fract4l |
well, losing my coins on gox is going to seriously motivate me to work harder to make more BTC. |
[07:07] |
| ThickAsThieves |
i used goz like twice in feb |
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| ThickAsThieves |
2013 |
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| OneFixt |
Bugpowder: i have enough, Bugpowder, don't worry |
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| ninjashogun |
WhatsApp just sold for $16Billion, and there is a huge bubble in the valley . technical jobs are very scarce. we have 1) something much better than search, based on graph theory (without sayin gmore) and 2) a reason people will upload their profiles for this reason :) We can get a lot of technical profiles just from launch / announcements (on hacker news etc) |
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| mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder we have an oracle too ? |
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| fract4l |
i'm *SHOCKED* that bitcoinbuilder is still above 0.00000001 |
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| Duffer1 |
ninjashogun tell us more about how to invest |
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| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun unless you manage to lay zuck you're not in this game. |
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| Bugpowder |
https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle |
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| ozbot |
Bitcoin-Analysis (BitcoinOracle) on Twitter |
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| Bones_ |
ninjashogun, will this site help me get laid |
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| asciilifeform |
'technical jobs are very scarce' << wait what |
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| asciilifeform |
what planet. |
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| Bugpowder |
fract4l: I'd buy at 0.01 |
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| greenspan_fan |
better than search based on graph theory? |
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| mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform he means technical people. |
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| ninjashogun |
asciilifeform, I meant talent! Sorry. |
[07:08] |
| ninjashogun |
yes, sorry |
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| ninjashogun |
:) |
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| greenspan_fan |
are you on crack? all search uses graph theory |
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| benkay |
now now greenspan_fan |
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| benkay |
settle down |
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| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan in the sense al qm uses matrixes, sure. |
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| ninjashogun |
No, keyword search doesn't use graph theory. It uses set theory. (In the form of database design) |
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| mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla check it out, your shitty chan is about to break 200 |
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| greenspan_fan |
sorry, that was kinda rude |
[07:09] |
| greenspan_fan |
but, for instance, facebook's whole deal is modelling via social graph |
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| ninjashogun |
database queries are applied set theory. Ours is different, it's based on graph theory and is a very novel application that results in much better matches ,and ALSO a good reason for people to upload their profiles. |
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| kakobrekla |
its you ppl that make it shitty! |
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| ThickAsThieves |
all design uses grid theory, coincidence? |
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| copumpkin |
ninjashogun: pagerank is a graph algorithm :) |
[07:09] |
| mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485913 << anyone got any advice ? |
[07:09] |
| mircea_popescu |
lolz |
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| ozbot |
How to recover your money as a small time investor with funds in mtgox |
[07:09] |
| ninjashogun |
copumpkin, yes, you're right it is :) |
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| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun basically everyone's point is that regardless how you personally look at it, mathematic reality is accessible to everyone on their own terms. |
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| greenspan_fan |
also, idk how they teach qm in romania, but you can get by OK without knowing matrix mechanics |
[07:10] |
| nubbins` |
;;seen mike_c |
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| gribble |
mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: :) hopefully i can run it on an actual machine and get better performance |
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| ninjashogun |
So just to put this in context I have just connected this week with the other mathetician I am creating this site with, so it is a very fresh startup opportunity. To whoever asked about the means of investing, standard terms as you would suggest based on hearing abou thte opportunity etc. |
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| benkay |
hoo booo whaaat qm without matrix operations? |
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| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan yes, but that doesn't mean any part of qm is inaccessible to matrix. |
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| dexX7 |
this is somehow sad.. i wonder for how many bitcoin was a pain instead of pleasure |
[07:11] |
| mircea_popescu |
dexX7 hopefully for most. |
[07:11] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, I have no idea why you wrote thta to me |
[07:11] |
| mircea_popescu |
you know, like sex. |
[07:11] |
| ninjashogun |
"mathematic reality is accessible to everyone on their own terms" |
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| nubbins` |
^ it is |
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| greenspan_fan |
but I always conceptualized pagerank for instance as being essentially graph theoretic in nature |
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| ninjashogun |
Yes, it is. |
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| ninjashogun |
Absolutely, greenspan_fan |
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| mircea_popescu |
so good for you :) |
[07:12] |
| ninjashogun |
Ours is a bit different. |
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| copumpkin |
a big-ass matrix is a graph |
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| Duffer1 |
what's your business plan? |
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| ninjashogun |
But in some ways very similar to pagerank |
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| copumpkin |
well, a square matrix is |
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| mircea_popescu |
Duffer1 it's a start-up, what business plan. they maybe have an idea is all. |
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| mircea_popescu |
copumpkin i thought it didn't have to be square. |
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| mircea_popescu |
you can generalise the graph space neh ? |
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| nubbins` |
^ |
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| nubbins` |
pick yr number of dimensions |
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| copumpkin |
mircea_popescu: well, there's an obvious interpretation of a square matrix as a graph |
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| ninjashogun |
Duffer1 - hi, Duffer1 . The business plan is to get profiles for free, based on the novel application, which will cause people to want to upload their profiles to us, and use them to fill vacancies scraped from other sites. (Meaning for starters the other sites get the money from it.) |
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| mircea_popescu |
copumpkin a that sure. |
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| nubbins` |
5 if you want, all the rules still work |
[07:13] |
| nubbins` |
you just won't be able to make a physical model of it anymore |
[07:13] |
| copumpkin |
then matrix multiplication "walks" the graph |
[07:13] |
| copumpkin |
it's kind of fun |
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| greenspan_fan |
ninjashogun the scraping part could be a thing unto itself |
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| ninjashogun |
Duffer1, then when we have a set of profiles and a critical mass, we can get listings ourselves directly, and get the money from them. However, there has to be content initially. |
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| copumpkin |
you can then multiply graphs with unusual semirings to get more interesting behavior |
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| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun specifically, what is the problem you are solving ? |
[07:13] |
| ninjashogun |
greenspan_fan, I don't think so. I am sure every job site would be open to us sending people to their ads :) |
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| nubbins` |
it comforts me that math still works with more than three spatial dimensions |
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| copumpkin |
nubbins`: it breaks at 7, sorry |
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| ThickAsThieves |
your business plan has no business in it though |
[07:14] |
| nubbins` |
D: why didn't anyone tell me |
[07:14] |
| mircea_popescu |
nubbins` it's okay, Mr Hig Uyse proved that any set of cats can be packed in less than 7 dimensions. |
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| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, the specific problem we're solving is "connecting jobs with job-seekers". I.e. finding the best qualified candidate for an employer, or the place to work for a job-seeker. BETTER than a text search where they both just blurt out what they need (exactly) on the part of the employer or everything they have done (exactly) on the part of the job seeker. |
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| greenspan_fan |
you don't need business, just data. Cash out and pass the buck to facebook or whomever |
[07:14] |
| nubbins` |
phew |
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| ninjashogun |
which is how keyword search (status quo) works. |
[07:15] |
| nubbins` |
bad news for the imgur giraffe tho |
[07:15] |
| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun but how do you account for flexibility in either side ? |
[07:15] |
| greenspan_fan |
mircea_popescu not a fan of string theory? |
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| asciilifeform |
;;google man woman dog matching |
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| gribble |
NP-completemess | Equivalence: ; Man, Woman, Dog, seeking stable relationship. - Math StackExchange: ; Dog and Dog Chinese Love Compatibility - Astrology.com: |
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| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, exactly. |
[07:15] |
| ThickAsThieves |
no one wants to fill out another resume |
[07:15] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, that is the problem we have solved. |
[07:15] |
| ninjashogun |
Yes. |
[07:15] |
| mircea_popescu |
(some people don't want to do a specific job, but whatever, some people don't want something specific done, but whatever IS done) ? |
[07:15] |
| ninjashogun |
Yes. |
[07:15] |
| ninjashogun |
Exactly. |
[07:15] |
| ninjashogun |
This is the issue that we solve. |
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| antephialtic |
isn't that just the stable marriage problem? |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.48000142 = 3.36 BTC [+] {2} |
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| nubbins` |
some people don't want the best and brightest, they just want people who can do an okay job |
[07:16] |
| ninjashogun |
No other site does this - other sites just are glorified text searches or databse searches. |
[07:16] |
| mircea_popescu |
this is true. |
[07:16] |
| nubbins` |
unfortunately all these people are in btc ;( |
[07:16] |
| mircea_popescu |
this much is true, job market is a scandal. |
[07:16] |
| ninjashogun |
yes |
[07:16] |
| ninjashogun |
and we're set to shake it up |
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| nubbins` |
heh |
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| mircea_popescu |
well you're set to try. |
[07:16] |
| mircea_popescu |
let's not confuse the two. |
[07:16] |
| copumpkin |
I saw my profile(s) on gild.com the other day |
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| greenspan_fan |
also, consider how many jobs are filled by referrals |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00539997 = 0.3132 BTC [+] |
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| ThickAsThieves |
he's graph to shake it up |
[07:17] |
| copumpkin |
it was interesting, because they thought there were two of me |
[07:17] |
| nubbins` |
a job search where mediocre employees can find already-defeated employers |
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| copumpkin |
and one of them had high expertise, low desirability, and the other had low expertise high desirability |
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| nubbins` |
as cheeky as that sounds, you're actually onto something there |
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| nubbins` |
tier 2 job search for people who know they're not up to snuff |
[07:17] |
| copumpkin |
finding good hires is actually pretty hard |
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| ninjashogun |
So I am looking for a roughly $50K investment (nominal, could be less). Is anyone here in a position to conssider that, has a portfolio and has been involved iwth other startups in the past? An interest in mathematics (specifically graph theory) helps immensely. |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.473 = 4.257 BTC [-] |
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| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1571 @ 0.00463921 = 7.2882 BTC [-] {24} |
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| copumpkin |
so if ninjashogun can get it up and running, he'll have a lot of willing customers |
[07:18] |
| greenspan_fan |
my idea for a start-up involves me applying to thousands of places for remote work, then farming out the resulting offers to india |
[07:18] |
| ninjashogun |
yes |
[07:18] |
| copumpkin |
but it's a tough market :) |
[07:18] |
| copumpkin |
lots of other people want in too |
[07:18] |
| copumpkin |
like those gild folks |
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| greenspan_fan |
since the netflix for prostitutes was immediately rejected by y combinator |
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| copumpkin |
and several others I've seen |
[07:18] |
| ninjashogun |
the moment I announce on hackernews (hwere I have a profile) at the right time of day, I will have some sign-ups |
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| antephialtic |
can you specify the specific graph theory problem you are trying to solve? (other than simple bipartate matching) |
[07:18] |
| ninjashogun |
Yes, but we have an innovation they don't. |
[07:18] |
| copumpkin |
I want good signups though |
[07:18] |
| mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438181249799438336 << for everyone's lulz. |
[07:18] |
| ozbot |
Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Specifically, @CharlieShrem ... |
[07:18] |
| copumpkin |
and the good people aren't looking |
[07:18] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 284 @ 0.00427064 = 1.2129 BTC [-] {9} |
[07:19] |
| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun people here are worth well over a billion all together. |
[07:19] |
| ninjashogun |
antephialtic - No, I don't want to specify it here. It's not about solving an unsolved problem, but rather applying existing theory in a novel way. |
[07:19] |
| mircea_popescu |
nevertheless, i'll bet you're not getting a dime so far. |
[07:19] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, ok... that doesn't really help me though :) I'm not here raising Series A. |
[07:19] |
| greenspan_fan |
yeah, does it have CSS? that's what I want to know |
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[07:19] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1130 @ 0.00415 = 4.6895 BTC [-] {2} |
[07:20] |
| assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17382 @ 0.00088296 = 15.3476 BTC [-] |
[07:20] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, it doesn't matter if they're worth $10M altogether or $10B. As long as at least one person here has a portfolio and is interested in startups |
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[07:20] |
| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun they're also inclined to play, something vc's aren't normally. ATC got started because people were bored and so far cost about 50k or thereabouts. |
[07:20] |
| ThickAsThieves |
;;ticker |
[07:20] |
| gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 446.96, Best ask: 448.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.94000, Last trade: 448.9, 24 hour volume: 66688.95383623, 24 hour low: 442.12, 24 hour high: 579.34, 24 hour vwap: 529.068851738 |
[07:20] |
| mircea_popescu |
but you're nowhere near the zone. |
[07:20] |
| ninjashogun |
antephialitc - the specific graph theory problem is related to shortest-path |
[07:20] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, interesting |
[07:21] |
| mircea_popescu |
"Ice-breaking ships help keep Chesapeake Bay waters safe" <<< check out all the global warming. |
[07:21] |
| copumpkin |
ninjashogun: here's a cute way to compute shortest paths: http://r6.ca/blog/20110808T035622Z.html |
[07:21] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00420001 = 0.42 BTC [+] {4} |
[07:21] |
| greenspan_fan |
my new startup idea: an automated, high-quality "human" activity generator for nascent startups looking for funding |
[07:21] |
| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan i'm down. |
[07:21] |
| Duffer1 |
lol |
[07:21] |
| mircea_popescu |
if you manage to insert it into the next round of ycombinator a la sokal, you get a bonus. |
[07:21] |
| ThickAsThieves |
i like my search engine idea better |
[07:21] |
| davout_ |
greenspan_fan: interesting |
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[07:21] |
| Duffer1 |
ninjashogun do you have any product at all atm to show? |
[07:21] |
| mircea_popescu |
davout you two can work together. |
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[07:22] |
| ThickAsThieves |
customizable filter templates, fully weightable factors, totally transparent seo |
[07:22] |
| ninjashogun |
Duffer1 - no, I just met and spoke with my cofounder today :) |
[07:22] |
| davout |
no, i'm a create-your-own-exchange consultant |
[07:22] |
| asciilifeform |
folks who think they have an efficient solution to an np-complete problem should not settle for small change. |
[07:22] |
| asciilifeform |
like paltry $1B |
[07:22] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, above where you say "ATC got started because people were bored" - what is ATC pls? |
[07:22] |
| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun for the other part of your question, i would say everyone speaking here knows a lot of math. |
[07:22] |
| copumpkin |
asciilifeform: which NP complete problem? |
[07:22] |
| mircea_popescu |
review the logs for various lulz. |
[07:22] |
| greenspan_fan |
it doesn't have to be a solution, just an approximation |
[07:22] |
| mircea_popescu |
(do you know how to review the logs ?) |
[07:23] |
| greenspan_fan |
I get really sick of people defending btc-dev not doing important things because they're "probably" np-complete |
[07:23] |
| ThickAsThieves |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ |
[07:23] |
| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan you don't say. |
[07:23] |
| ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
[07:23] |
| mircea_popescu |
IM SICKER OF IT THAN YOU FOO!!1111 |
[07:23] |
| ninjashogun |
Here is the other person's profile that he responded with: "I am a full stack web/desktop/mobile developer. Currently my weapon of choice is C# for the back end stuff, and JavaScript for the front end. I am also versed in Objective-C (I have three apps on the app store). Daily my bread and butter is developing web apps. Lately I've been developing cross-platform mobile games. I have a degree in Math, so I know just a bit of graph theory... this |
[07:24] |
| ninjashogun |
project sounds interesting. I'm open and interested in hearing more about this project." |
[07:24] |
| mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/headbash-d.gif << i'm this sick of it. |
[07:24] |
| greenspan_fan |
mircea_popescu ranking sickness of it is (probably) np-complete |
[07:24] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0045 = 0.9 BTC [+] {3} |
[07:24] |
| ninjashogun |
And for a bit of information, the team is distributed - he is in Kentucky and I am from Boston |
[07:24] |
| ninjashogun |
Duffer1 - is a distributed team a problem for you? |
[07:24] |
| Duffer1 |
not even a little bit |
[07:24] |
| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun listen, you're really misbehaving here, albeit perhaps unintentionally. the correct approach is to lurk and read the logs for about half a year. then you'll be in a position to meaningfully engage th dragons here. |
[07:24] |
| mircea_popescu |
i get that this doesn't help you any in the sense of getting you to do what you want to do |
[07:25] |
| mircea_popescu |
and while that is unfortunate, it's nevertheless what it is. |
[07:25] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 307 @ 0.0045 = 1.3815 BTC [+] {6} |
[07:25] |
| ninjashogun |
Duffer1, great. |
[07:25] |
| greenspan_fan |
alternatively, have some code people can look at |
[07:25] |
| Duffer1 |
^and it is genuinely to your benefit to take that advice |
[07:25] |
| ninjashogun |
Duffer1 I can PM you the specific graph application (in gerneral terms) |
[07:25] |
| mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/la-firma/ << perhaps see that as a primer. |
[07:25] |
| ozbot |
La firma pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
[07:25] |
| Duffer1 |
nono that's alright |
[07:25] |
| ninjashogun |
all right. though it's interesting |
[07:25] |
| mircea_popescu |
mutatis mutandis |
[07:25] |
| ninjashogun |
again, this is the idea that caused this startup to be created this week. (I did consult with advisors the last week or two about it.) |
[07:26] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00450001 = 0.531 BTC [+] |
[07:26] |
| Duffer1 |
keep this chan open when you can though, hang around |
[07:26] |
| mircea_popescu |
no, see, unless you can name an advisor and i can go |
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[07:26] |
| mircea_popescu |
;;rated advisor |
[07:26] |
| gribble |
You have not yet rated user advisor |
[07:26] |
| mircea_popescu |
and get a positive result, you haven't in fact consulted any advisors. |
[07:26] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0045001 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2} |
[07:27] |
| ninjashogun |
Duffer1, thanks for the feedback |
[07:28] |
| greenspan_fan |
it isn't meant to be discouraging, just that you have to do some ground work, have something to show off (like a demo, or some sort of model, at least), before anyone can make an informed investment decision |
[07:28] |
| Duffer1 |
^.^ |
[07:28] |
| ninjashogun |
greenspan_fan, well, obviously |
[07:28] |
| ninjashogun |
So what I was tihnking is that this isn't a real 'forum' (in that most IRC channels are basically just trolls etc) and that I would just escalate to another form of contact (skype etc) and be in touch while it gets rolled out |
[07:29] |
| ninjashogun |
the other thing is we don't REALLY have any capitalization requirements. |
[07:29] |
| mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2014/a-paper-diagnostic-for-cancer-0224.html i imagine you saw that already ? |
[07:29] |
| ninjashogun |
it's all software, we have jobs at the moment |
[07:29] |
| mircea_popescu |
no, this is the real forum. |
[07:30] |
| mircea_popescu |
when the sec wanted to talk to me i forced them to come here. |
[07:30] |
| ninjashogun |
so out of a $50K investment, probably a few hundred would go to server costs and $47K would sit in the bank for six months. while we build it (Though I know that is not what investors like to hear) |
[07:30] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, you're kidding right? |
[07:30] |
| mircea_popescu |
i'm dead serious. |
[07:30] |
| mircea_popescu |
this is the forum. |
[07:30] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, um |
[07:30] |
| greenspan_fan |
personally, I think it would be cool to invest in a start up, but I'm kinda averse to giving cash to pseudonyms in irc who aren't incorporated, have no references, no demos |
[07:30] |
| greenspan_fan |
mircea_popescu when did the SEC come knocking? |
[07:31] |
| mircea_popescu |
at the rate we're going i'll prolly publish the bundle in a coupla weeks. |
[07:31] |
| ninjashogun |
greenspan_fan, so first of all obviously you would not give a cash to a pseduonmn :) We can get in touch if appropriate. Could you tell me a bit about yourself - do you have any investments in startups to date? (or been involved iwth one)? Do you like matheatics or theoretical computer science? |
[07:31] |
| mircea_popescu |
and you can see then. |
[07:32] |
| Bugpowder |
mircea_popescu: Nope, it sounds like a good idea, but I don't think it will really work. the reason the pregnancy ones work is the hormone level goes up >1000x. MMPs are not that unregulated, maybe 2-3x by volume? Need to read the paper but I imagine the ROC curve is pretty ugly. |
[07:32] |
| Bugpowder |
'upregulated' |
[07:32] |
| mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder kinda what im doing here, trying to cheat |
[07:32] |
| assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.0008839 = 26.4286 BTC [+] {2} |
[07:33] |
| mircea_popescu |
my head goes "yes, but maybe it goes up locally ?" but how would i know. |
[07:33] |
| greenspan_fan |
it's the new thing |
[07:34] |
| greenspan_fan |
metablomics. big data, and lots of urine |
[07:34] |
| mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
[07:35] |
| benkay |
"cool to invest in a startup" |
[07:36] |
| benkay |
fuck everything |
[07:36] |
| mircea_popescu |
so he's new, what. |
[07:36] |
| benkay |
this is what is wrong with the planet |
[07:36] |
| mircea_popescu |
let the man have fun. |
[07:36] |
| mircea_popescu |
not like he's doing it on borrowed moneyz. |
[07:36] |
| benkay |
unlike the vcs, i suppose |
[07:36] |
| mircea_popescu |
so you see. |
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[07:37] |
| Bugpowder |
Not to mention, early diagnosis of some cancers has no effect on mortality, but does decrease QOL |
[07:37] |
| Bugpowder |
and increase care costs dramatically |
[07:37] |
| mircea_popescu |
sad but true |
[07:38] |
| greenspan_fan |
benkay I've just never had anyone ask me for money and it turn out well, so I am holding out hope for ninjashogun |
[07:38] |
| mircea_popescu |
then again this seemed geared for africa |
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[07:38] |
| mircea_popescu |
i bet the situation re qol / cost is different there. |
[07:38] |
| ninjashogun |
greenspan_fan, I haven't asked you for money :) |
[07:38] |
| mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder for public benefit, mind enumerating those types ? |
[07:38] |
| mircea_popescu |
greenspan_fan i take it your wife doesn't ask, just takes ? :D |
[07:39] |
| joecool |
mircea_popescu: congrats on mpex outliving yet another exchange |
[07:39] |
| greenspan_fan |
haha |
[07:40] |
| mircea_popescu |
joecool well ty, tho it's kinda chearting. mpex never did fiat. |
[07:40] |
| mircea_popescu |
shitty business to be in. |
[07:40] |
| joecool |
seems so |
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[07:41] |
| benkay |
in other news, i'm talking about lisp at the Portland Python night this month. if there are any Portlanders listening, you should come and NOT TALK ABOUT BITCOIN FFS. |
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[07:41] |
| benkay |
http://www.meetup.com/pdxpython/events/146120792/ |
[07:41] |
| ozbot |
Monthly Presentation Night - |
[07:41] |
| mircea_popescu |
everyone go, talk of atc instead. |
[07:41] |
| benkay |
bloody pedants |
[07:42] |
| mircea_popescu |
http://www.debka.com/article/23704/Russian-units-transferred-from-securing-the-Sochi-games-to-the-Ukraine-border |
[07:42] |
| ozbot |
Russian units transferred from securing the Sochi games to the Ukraine border |
[07:42] |
| mircea_popescu |
sheet's getting warm there. |
[07:42] |
| benkay |
wowee |
[07:42] |
| mircea_popescu |
what i hear is they moved something like 10k armored vehicles so far today. |
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| copumpkin |
benkay: you a PL person? |
[07:44] |
| davout |
oh nice, i didn't the dip |
[07:44] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.00509969 = 0.2652 BTC [-] {2} |
[07:44] |
| assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.0008853 = 27.5328 BTC [+] {5} |
[07:44] |
| davout |
see* |
[07:44] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1115081 = 0.5575 BTC [-] {3} |
[07:45] |
| assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7161 @ 0.00088296 = 6.3229 BTC [-] |
[07:45] |
| mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
[07:45] |
| gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 460.0, Best ask: 463.46, Bid-ask spread: 3.46000, Last trade: 463.46, 24 hour volume: 70747.68743697, 24 hour low: 436.36, 24 hour high: 578.5, 24 hour vwap: 522.632639086 |
[07:45] |
| mircea_popescu |
derp. |
[07:45] |
| antephialtic |
heh. someone should make an MPEX style exchange for usd/btc, all security based on pgp keys |
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[07:46] |
| davout |
oh, mtgox is down |
[07:46] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11150005 = 0.223 BTC [-] {2} |
[07:46] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47206 = 2.3603 BTC [-] {3} |
[07:46] |
| joecool |
davout: you seem surprised |
[07:46] |
| antephialtic |
speaking of which, its a bit ridiculous that GPG still doesn't support ECDSA keys |
[07:46] |
| davout |
antephialtic: it does |
[07:47] |
| joecool |
antephialtic: blame debian |
[07:47] |
| mircea_popescu |
antephialtic localbitcoins is kinda-that i thought |
[07:47] |
| mircea_popescu |
ecdsa sux anyway. |
[07:47] |
| davout |
not really |
[07:47] |
| assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00434673 = 0.2173 BTC [-] {9} |
[07:47] |
| davout |
(the localbitcoins thing) |
[07:47] |
| joecool |
mircea_popescu: depends on the curve chosen |
[07:47] |
| mircea_popescu |
joecool im suspicious as al lfuck of the entire thing. |
[07:47] |
| mircea_popescu |
reminds me of dsa. |
[07:48] |
| davout |
antephialtic: you can already have the same feature if you trade x.eur on mpex |
[07:48] |
| antephialtic |
wait it does? I'm running osx with gpg from homebrew and it doesn't have ecdsa as an option |
[07:48] |
| davout |
antephialtic: i think it's gpg2 that does |
[07:48] |
| joecool |
i'm using 4096-bit RSA for the forseeable future, but ecdsa seems attractive if i can write a javacard implementation to work on my yubikey neo |
[07:48] |
| assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4607 @ 0.00088296 = 4.0678 BTC [-] |
[07:48] |
| joecool |
until then, openpgp smartcard for me |
[07:48] |
| mircea_popescu |
joecool how would you identify the classes of curves they have popped ? |
[07:48] |
| antephialtic |
mircea_popescu: I agree, DSA/ECDSA is a kludge. Schnorr signatures are much better |
[07:49] |
| benkay |
copumpkin: pl? |
[07:49] |
| copumpkin |
programming language |
[07:49] |
| benkay |
copumpkin: programming languages? |
[07:49] |
| benkay |
notrly |
[07:49] |
| mircea_popescu |
yes he is. |
[07:49] |
| copumpkin |
ah |
[07:49] |
| benkay |
there is only lisp. |
[07:49] |
| mircea_popescu |
stop scamming him! |
[07:49] |
| copumpkin |
:) |
[07:49] |
| mircea_popescu |
lmao |
[07:49] |
| antephialtic |
davout: thanks for the tip, going to try to set that up |
[07:49] |
| benkay |
i'm not even a computer science person |
[07:49] |
| Namworld |
What the hell is going on? I leave for a few hours and the whole Bitcoin world goes to ashes? |
[07:49] |
| benkay |
it's not Bitcoin, it's just Gox. |
[07:49] |
| joecool |
mircea_popescu: again i don't use them either, the lack of support though isn't from waryness, it's from the number of old gnupg clients in the wild |
[07:49] |
| Namworld |
For the sake of speculators dropping out/news/etc, damage is done. |
[07:50] |
| Namworld |
It's only gox, the rest will recover |
[07:50] |
| Namworld |
But for now everything is on fire, so to speak. |
[07:50] |
| davout |
Namworld: global warming hits bitcoin |
[07:51] |
| mircea_popescu |
antephialtic i'd rather see Cramer-Shoup myself. |
[07:51] |
| mircea_popescu |
i still dunno why they've never been seriously implemented. |
[07:51] |
| Namworld |
Global warming? NEEEEEIIIIIILLLLL |
[07:52] |
| mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/438189256268611584 << check out shrem. |
[07:52] |
| ozbot |
Twitter / CharlieShrem: . @Mircea_Popescu We both had ... |
[07:52] |
| Namworld |
Sorry, sorry. My cousin keeps quoting that line from DBZ abridged. |
[07:52] |
| mircea_popescu |
Namworld is she hot ? |
[07:53] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, I checked out mpex exchange |
[07:53] |
| benkay |
copumpkin: u has pm |
[07:53] |
| Namworld |
Guy cousin |
[07:53] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, did you write it in Perl? |
[07:53] |
| Namworld |
I had money on gox for convenience, I must admit. |
[07:53] |
| mircea_popescu |
i didn't write it at all, and tech details haven't really been released. |
[07:53] |
| Namworld |
Withdrew it at a 10% cut as soon as issues hit. |
[07:54] |
| mircea_popescu |
Namworld no convenience for you! come back, 1 year! |
[07:54] |
| ninjashogun |
mircea_popescu, I guess you just wrote the beautiful front-end right :) |
[07:54] |
| mircea_popescu |
o hey. didja help all the people buying mtgox debt learn a lesson ? lol |
[07:54] |
| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun no, i just tell people what to do. |
[07:54] |
| mircea_popescu |
and what they did wrong. |
[07:54] |
| lnovy |
mircea_popescu: that sun picture send my box whole 1GB into swap :D |
[07:54] |
| mircea_popescu |
and then if they don't listen sometimes they live long enough to apologize. |
[07:55] |
| mircea_popescu |
like homeboy shrem a few lines up |
[07:55] |
| mircea_popescu |
lnovy it's not that huge is it ?! |
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| lnovy |
mircea_popescu: 4096x4096... but I guess FF is just crap at those... |
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| mircea_popescu |
srsly. |
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| mircea_popescu |
what do you do if you get like, a real monitor one day ? |
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I have 1920x1080 + 1280x1024... but only a 4 gigs of ram... |
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[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10975 BTC [+] |
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| mircea_popescu |
benkay fwiw, i heard copumpkin once used a lambda function to turn a iphone into an ipad |
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| ninjashogun |
lnovy - if it's any consolation, they just came out with a 128 GB micro sd card. |
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| copumpkin |
lol |
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| benkay |
i once heard copumpkin use a closure to turn an Mac][ into a Genera |
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| lnovy |
i'd swap to that :) |
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| benkay |
it was audible. |
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| mircea_popescu |
lmao |
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| benkay |
!b 4 |
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| assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1656343/plain/) |
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| lnovy |
ok, I don't get it :) |
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| mircea_popescu |
don't worry, nobody does. |
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| mircea_popescu |
it's lisp. |
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| ninjashogun |
www.spritzinc.com - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7295094 |
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| lnovy |
curring is for fools |
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| ninjashogun |
sorry I meant to quote "Spritz – read 500 words per minute without any training" |
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| ninjashogun |
it's an interesting little app |
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| mircea_popescu |
ninjashogun if you just dump the link ozbot will read the page title. |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/25/business/apparent-theft-at-mt-gox-shakes-bitcoin-world.html?smid=tw-share&_r=3 |
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| ozbot |
Log In - The New York Times |
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| ninjashogun |
lol |
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| ninjashogun |
that worked :) |
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| mircea_popescu |
the new york times is so well adapted to the web. |
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mircea_popescu: breast cancer, prostate cancer |
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ozbot should pretend to be the google bot - then it would get the right titles |
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whoa. |
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Bugpowder how the fuck does that work man. on my list breast cancer is one where early discovery has the greatest impact. in there with skin cancer. |
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what have i been reading the wrong books ? |
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ninjashogun i think it just looks for the element in html </td>
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<td class="breakup">ho okay </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 626 @ 0.00050099 = 0.3136 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu, when you said above that this channel was worth "over $1b" I didn't takei t seriously as if it has like 500 regulars then just a couple of people worth $50M - or a single Internet billionaire who drops in sometimes - would account for that </td>
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<td class="breakup">ninjashogun well it was seriously. </td>
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<td class="breakup">In other news. http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/gselevator-tattletale-exposed-he-was-never-in-the-goldman-elevator/?hp </td>
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<td class="breakup">hahahaah </td>
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<td class="breakup">did you tweet that ? </td>
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<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu, your own net worth is quite up there from your exchange site? (With all its glorious stylesheets)? </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 271 @ 0.00086048 = 0.2332 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">argh can't transfer bitcoin on work network, even when VPN'ed to elsewhere </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 85 @ 0.00509997 = 0.4335 BTC [+] {5} </td>
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<td class="breakup">ninjashogun http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2014#523542 im dead, what. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.472 = 0.944 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">Bugpowder incidentally, you know sm is in hot water over it ? </td>
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<td class="breakup">extent of the damage not quite known yet. </td>
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<td class="breakup">:) </td>
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<td class="breakup">SM? </td>
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<td class="breakup">second market. </td>
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<td class="breakup">oh yeah </td>
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<td class="breakup">duh </td>
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<td class="breakup">myeah. </td>
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<td class="breakup">course they probably get a free pass from investors </td>
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<td class="breakup">at least this time. </td>
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<td class="breakup">guys I've received some suggestions to "lurk" and "read logs" here, which I wouldn't really have time to do. It was nice meeting you all though and I may be back as the project progresses. Overall I don't think I will be spending a ton of time building WoT, advisors, etc - as I have real-world references for the moment that I would expect anyone to consutl. </td>
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<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: what is the source that all winklevosses money was in gox </td>
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<td class="breakup">ninjashogun an' that's fine. </td>
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<td class="breakup">ninjashogun: *humblebrag exits* </td>
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<td class="breakup">A Goldman spokesman, after being told that @GSElevator had been unmasked, said in a statement, “We are pleased to report that the official ban on talking in elevators will be lifted effective immediately.” </td>
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<td class="breakup">heh </td>
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<td class="breakup">antephialtic source ? what is this source thing you speak of. </td>
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<td class="breakup">nubbins` wtf you know, ban on talking on elevators. </td>
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<td class="breakup">i lel'd </td>
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<td class="breakup">how about banning fucktards from taking the elevator with you </td>
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<td class="breakup">eleWoT! </td>
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<td class="breakup">i think it was a bit tongue in cheek </td>
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<td class="breakup">noone talks to me in elevators </td>
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<td class="breakup">ah no humblebrag. It's certainly nice to meet you guys. later. </td>
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<td class="breakup">;;google love in an elevator aerosmith </td>
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<td class="breakup">Aerosmith - Love In An Elevator - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Yrhv33Zb8>; Love in an Elevator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_in_an_Elevator>; AEROSMITH LYRICS - Love In An Elevator - A-Z Lyrics: <http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/aerosmith/loveinanelevator.html> </td>
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<td class="breakup">i face backwards if i'm the first person to get in </td>
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<td class="breakup">occasionally other people do it too </td>
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<td class="breakup">glad to see dealbook is focusing on hard hitting journalism </td>
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<td class="breakup">i got news for you : those people are gay and looking. </td>
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<td class="breakup">If only Lawsky had rolled out the bit license earlier </td>
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<td class="breakup">lawl. </td>
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<td class="breakup">not quite as tongue in cheek as this: http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/22/c2/70/00/rings.si.jpg </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">antephialtic actually a guy focusing on hard hitting journalism was here earlier. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hopefully he sticks. </td>
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<td><b>kakobrekla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">looky, erik is alive </td>
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<td><b>kakobrekla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yv6ph/some_words_for_my_friends/ </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the viking? </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">The 0.01% of bitcoin trying to feel the pain of the 99% </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">LOL </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lmao why so mean. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">actually it's prolly less than 0.001% </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">pretty sure he's in the 100 archons, and pretty sure there's over 100k people with some bitcoin dust somewhere. </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the satoshi% </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so that'd be 1 in 1k </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i hope my 300 EUR/BTC bid gets to feel the pain too </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">$vwap x.eur </td>
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<td><b>mpexbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: X.EUR 1 day: average: 0.00206827 high: 0.0021 low: 0.002 volume: 1100 btc: 2.2751 7 day: average: 0.00211705 high: 0.00226762 low: 0.002 volume: 4209 btc: 8.91064414 30 day: average: 0.00187721 high: 0.00226762 low: 0.00166114 volume: 17120 btc: 32.13776514 </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">$depth x.eur </td>
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<td><b>mpexbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: X.EUR Bids: ['200 @ 0.00170512', '500 @ 0.00169213', '4200 @ 0.0016245', '100 @ 0.00153846', '1000 @ 0.001'] </td>
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<td><b>mpexbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: Asks: ['749 @ 0.0025', '251 @ 0.0026', '450 @ 0.002837', '1531 @ 0.0029'] </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">some gap there. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not there :D </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">still gotta work on the bot </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">make it do binladens too </td>
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<td class="breakup">gangsta </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how many bots are in this channel? </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or g* is five or ten rather than 3.45565 </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we are all bots </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im the orb </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">greenspan_fan: there's assbot, ozbot, gribble </td>
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<td><b>mod6</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mpexbot </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">greenspan_fan bout 3 </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mebbe other that i forget/don't know about </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how many are custom code? </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think most are supybot </td>
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<td><b>kakobrekla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">assbot is assbot </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">.bait </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://25.media.tumblr.com/1f55fe7276e6389293ff0657a32daf1b/tumblr_mffqe8FCLj1rxd7x3o1_1280.jpg </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that's ozbot :3 </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00508637 = 0.1933 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that's a cute one </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: Serious question time, how will options contracts be exercised at month's end? At bitcoincharts price, or at last quoted (~$650 / BTC)? </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Bugpowder that'll be announced then </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoincharts 7d vwap iirc </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">haha guess not heh </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout was 24h vwap, except arguably bitcoincharts is broken etc. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's a fucking conundrum. </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Going to have a big effect on S.MPOE results. Would like to know before. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i was thinking about when you said using implied spot for futures was a bad idea </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoincharts may fix itself shortly though </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you still think so? </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Bugpowder kinda why i'm not saying anything. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout not sure exactly what you mean ? </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we were discussing the basket, and how mtgox was kinda ruining it </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td class="breakup">and that it would theoretically possible to use the future's implied spot to get the collateralization requirement </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">vorb eurostack </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">Vexual 1.05 </td>
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<td class="breakup">vorb findeuro </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">Vexual unknown </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">"If you’re sad about your bitcoins losing all their value, maybe you should have put out more lands so you could bring them out earlier." -- @deliciousbees </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not even the implied spot i guess, the actual spot </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">420 on coinbase dude </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout i recall you proposing that and me pointing out it cant happen because of backfeed. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or some vwap </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438198808359731200 << curious how well that works out. </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @niubi You only think that ... </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">.m </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nah, i said BC's vwap, which you understood as x.eur's vwap </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no difference, inasmuch as you run both. </td>
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<td class="breakup">i didn't even think about using x.eur's </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">.lm </td>
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<td class="breakup">.bait </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://25.media.tumblr.com/8c082dff11f32c3ae6859b73a4b3ea20/tumblr_mg6egfuPs31rjpxwzo1_500.jpg </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">zing </td>
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<td class="breakup">wouldn't it make sense if the market was larger? </td>
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<td class="breakup">anyway, just wondering </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it wouldn't make sense no matter how large the market is, because you arguably can still control it. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">at least on the x.eur side that's something that you could quantify </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">maybe if you were mtgox cca 2011 and had 9x% of the market you could bring the arugment that it's nonsense to empower errors by going outside </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but im not in the business of quantifying such. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">on an unrelated note the french are in favor of internet big brothering -> http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2014/02/25/97002-20140225FILWWW00021-les-francais-pour-la-surveillance-d-internet.php </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">such wow </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">basically the french strike me as the sort of people who'd be in favour of a government accuplation scheme. </td>
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<td class="breakup">you submit your genital pictures, you get matched by le departement with some guy, </td>
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<td class="breakup">functionaries come and insert his thing in your thing, etc </td>
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<td class="breakup">mircea: care to comment on the price thnx </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol, don't see me as french, i'm half dutch, half nigerian </td>
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<td class="breakup">cerelenius: reddit seems to be doing a good job with that :-) </td>
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<td><b>mod6</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yoh dawg, we heard you like things in your thing </td>
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<td class="breakup">cerelenius notrly. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">shrem made a total fool of himself again </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.472 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you know pick something and stick to it, koin3d, whatever. </td>
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<td class="breakup">this constant namechanging is derpy. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 542 @ 0.00506068 = 2.7429 BTC [+] {6} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.00520597 = 0.6976 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is the 700k stolen figure true? how does that even make sense </td>
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<td class="breakup">vorb ^ </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2014#527970 </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">#bitcoin-assets log </td>
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<td><b>Duffer1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i'd say it's likely true, the only question is the identity of the thieves </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">Vexual classified </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well yea but they were honoring btc withdrawals </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">up until the fall 2013 </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">scam 101 </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 154 @ 0.00526065 = 0.8101 BTC [+] {5} </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thieves my ass karpeles is a fucking jew himself </td>
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<td><b>toffoo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">any guesses here on "collateral damage" of gox collapse? who will be the 3rd-party businesses/services who will now collapse because they had coins/funds tied up at gox? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">his cabal took them </td>
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<td><b>Duffer1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that's what i'm saying cere </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how would he not notice that type of leakage for so long </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">toffoo: good point </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00525796 = 0.3943 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">counterparty exposure could be bad </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">toffoo no i dont think so </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">everyone with 2 IQ points left gox last year </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: Did you keep any of MPEX account funds on Mt GOx? </td>
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<td><b>toffoo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's going to bite at least somebody big out there </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">toffoo most of the people clueless enough to have been exposed will probably be rescued by their investors now, a la second market. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol bugpowder </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's likely the twinklelosses are out of the game. </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ooh </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Bugpowder i never had a gox account. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's possible this blow actually takes out the bitcoin foundation scamgroup, </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu they held coins at gox? </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96150 @ 0.0008861 = 85.1985 BTC [+] {6} </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but we'll have to see. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">obviously i'll be trying to lock any doors for mr v that i can. race against time. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">winklevoss had their own wallet... </td>
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<td class="breakup">fancy </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mr v? </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">V is the worst </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes, some clown. </td>
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<td class="breakup">vessennes </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">king scumbag </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the irony here is the exchange where nobody knows the owner ends up lasting the longest(btce) </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitstamp is actually older if memory serves. </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is btce dead? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitstamp is a pita to withdraw from 5k+ they turn it into a huge Q&A session </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">vexual no </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00539949 = 0.4968 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: nah </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: why do you think the foundation gets taken down? </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">btc-e and gox were are oldest, followed by BC </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">then came the britcoin/intersango crowd </td>
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<td class="breakup">ic. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">btce is russian run they are more clever </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">It would be interesting to know how many of the dev team had money on gox </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes, it is often the case entire groups of millions of people are more clever. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">karpeles fat jew no wonder shrem vouched for him </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: is there something wrong with being jewish? </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if those people are toast, development might slow down </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout: jews have a tendency for causing chaos, it goes back to choosing barabas in the new testament.. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.47142857 = 3.3 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">greenspan_fan considering what counts for development these days that should increase the btc price. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.00525243 = 1.2868 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.11064975 = 3.3195 BTC [-] {7} </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout: not going to get into that with you </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius you're not getting to </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">into anything anyway, don't even know who the fuck you are </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well ill give credit to mircea for calling it before anyone else </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he's this angry canadian fellow. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">publicly </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">why are you so angry anyway. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fk off </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I think he's just trying to be cool, because racism is controversial </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://imgur.com/esDRP98 for greenspan_fan </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">As a white male, thank you for making me feel awkward ESPN.. - Imgur </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i never said anything racist </td>
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<td class="breakup">greenspan_fan racism is controversial, but re niggers not re jews. </td>
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<td><b>mod6</b></td>
<td class="breakup">speaking of dev, i thought the most recent list of defects was pretty spot on. account naming issues, et. al. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: can you comment on the foundation collapsing? </td>
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<td class="breakup">mod6 barely scratches the surface, really. </td>
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<td class="breakup">we need a motherfuckingspec. </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jesus, are you writing an article for your local freeman-on-the-land tabloid? </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov what i don't understand is... why are all those black guys dressed like if they were white ? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol greenspan </td>
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<td><b>mod6</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it was nice addendum to the first list you made tho. but yeah. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: no, because specification is hard, also leads to alternate implementations, which leads to bugs </td>
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<td class="breakup">white/blue shirts with lines, and the dots on white on the guy on left ? it's fucking outrageously unflattering. </td>
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<td><b>B007</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: america makes them think they are </td>
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<td class="breakup">davout o yes i see, alternative implementations leads to bugs. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is so true. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yup </td>
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<td class="breakup">why are we even in bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hearn said it </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">must be true </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout yes but hearn is an idiot. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 557 @ 0.00539949 = 3.0075 BTC [+] {7} </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no, he works for guggle </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fun fact : llvm lead to very many gcc bugs </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">being finally fixed. </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">awww http://s.imgur.com/images/OverCapacity_700.png </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: oh and "bitcoin relies on bugs in openssl" </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">o/ </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00539948 = 0.3456 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lmao </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i'm not even joking </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no i know </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's still funny. </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">kakobrekla, how much do i owe on the dukebox? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: will gavin be affected ? </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and what about the jews?!?!?!?!?!?!? </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the jews will be affected. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">gavin is probably jewish </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">nicknode has quit (Quit: Page closed) </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think his wife is jewish </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: wrong, the smart jews don't have anything left in gox since 2011 </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout there are smart jews ? </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: are there? </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh my god, you guys. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">o wait i think i must have mixed up my stereotype cards </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nevermind. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">go trade them on gox </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">o wait </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ahahaha </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hahaha </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">zing </td>
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<td><b>mod6</b></td>
<td class="breakup">haha </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so basically -assets is like old time tv </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">satoshi was probably jewish, from the economic theory around btc at least </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there's like comedy hour, finance hour, porn hour </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we got it all! </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 202 @ 0.00520098 = 1.0506 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00088221 = 14.777 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>B007</b></td>
<td class="breakup">where is the business? </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in the pudding. </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its all business </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">!b 20 </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Last 20 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1656532/plain/) </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin is 100% jewish monetary theory, hoard coins and watch them swell in value while adding zero value </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">kakobrekla, dwanna some help with bashing? </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.11996649 = 2.0394 BTC [+] {5} </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">dust-otc (~dust@unaffiliated/dust-otc) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">all monetary is jewish monetary theory </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">unfortunately in 2013 capitalism yes </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and I have some bad news about physics, too </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: actually bitcoin is jewish in the sense that you're not invited </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well economics is a pseudo physics, adam smith essentially seperated it from moral philosophy </td>
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<td><b>kakobrekla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov you wanna admin the thing? </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sometimes yes </td>
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<td><b>kakobrekla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">k </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he does have a good sense of humour </td>
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<td><b>B007</b></td>
<td class="breakup">have you guys read Atlas Shrugged? </td>
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<td><b>antephialtic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes (unfortunately) </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ayn rand propaganda </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Jesus christ </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jesus. of course. it makes my top 20 most tedious list. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hi bugpowder </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Bugpowder, you got results from your analysis yet ? </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">No I am too busy doing recordings </td>
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<td><b>antephialtic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you're going to read a rand book, read anthem, its much shorter and gets all her ideas across without 1200 pages of terrible dialogue </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I got some nice cells tho </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Also I'm too tired to figure out how to recurse this nicely. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">greenspan_fan: modern economics is all about having something swell in value(deflation) via usury. bitcoin is no exception pal </td>
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<td><b>antephialtic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you really must read a long one, read the fountainhead, its a lot better than atlas shrugged. </td>
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<td><b>Bugpowder</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Or watch the movie </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius usury is what deadbeats call it when they can't meet the interest payments (because they're deadbeats), let alone the principal </td>
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<td><b>mod6</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fountainhead was ok. i think 'we the living' was better if you must. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because its impossible to meet it? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">21mil btc @ 1% is impossible. </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">then don't invest in bitcoin. You'll get better returns with your trailer park meth lab. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i meant lending them </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup"><greenspan_fan> all monetary is jewish monetary theory << actually it's gypstalian </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jews did relatively little. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol bitcoin is not an investment pal, its a speculation. bitcoins are sterile </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">physics tho, yea, as jewish as communism. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: you talking about florence </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius okkk, walter white-power </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">get your terms right. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.47010074 = 18.804 BTC [-] {6} </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">when you "buy" a bitcoin its zero sum, someone else now has what you exchanged for it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you arent adding capital to any project </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what is buying anything, then? </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu: you forgot to mention the derp hour apparently </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">investing is when you combine capital with labor, ideas etc to create new value </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">floating a theory is free dickhead </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">anything else is mere speculation </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout derp hour is like pie hour. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">every time is a good time for pie. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hahaha </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">anyway, i'll bbl. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin economy you will always have everyone impoverished except about 0.001% of holders </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the same thing under 100% gold standard </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius that's fine, brains distribute about the same way. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">let the idiots be poor, best thing for them and everyone else. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it ends up backfiring on the rich though over the long term </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats what occured in florence as well, you had the biggest prosperity ever yet they ended up imploding since the commoner couldnt afford to run a family </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">u wanna renaissance? do it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">renaissance was a bread and circus to cover the economic looting of that time </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hence all the arts </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so many other things happened at the time </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in bitcoin large holders have to do nothing, becuase as the armies of fanatics spread the gospel and do all the work, the largest holders get all the purchasing power transfered to them </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah people did good shit, and other people went. whoa here have some money </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">greenspan_fan: you are clueless. renaissance was the birth of capitalism and large scale usury in the west, it ended up destroying all the participating city states </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in the midst of dynastic struggle, wars, and massive religious upheaval </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">venice went from richest region in the world to flat broke </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but clearly it was the usurious jews </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it was usury. </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hahaha </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not just them </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00539949 = 0.1512 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">everyone was engaged in it essentially </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fugger were the most famous </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and yet, I am not convinced that charging interest is bad. If you want me to loan you something, then you should compensate for my not having it while you use it. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the problem with usury is your economy never grows fast enough to keep up with the debt + interest </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">greenspan_fan: well yea there is legit compensation and then there is usury. </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so okay, by definition, then, usury is bad </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in bitcoin you will never be able to have a functioning credit market </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you could run a bills of exchange system if they ever figure out how to make it decentralized </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup"><cerelenius> in bitcoin you will never be able to have a functioning credit market // as said above, it's not that bad </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">businesses will find finances it they are worthy of it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you need a self liquidating credit system </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">without credit impossible to allocate any capital </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">here's where you're mistaken </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.00534999 = 1.1235 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">apocalyptic: im not mistaken, most people have zero idea what money is and who can issue it. </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoins grand accomplishment is the blockchain </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how does that contradict the fact you are ? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">apocalyptic: bitcoin as a currency resembles a sophisticated wealth transfer scheme, those who have more of it benefit from the work of everyone else </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">as their coins swell in value </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">asymptopically, though, it evens out </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it doesnt lol how? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">an early adopter or large coin holder just has to sit and do nothing, as everyone else "adds to the ecosystem" their coins swell in value with next to no risk, and they didnt even have to hire labor lol </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00522283 = 3.1337 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if bitcoin or its like ends up becoming the main currency, or at least a sufficiently important one </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it never will </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well...that all depends, you are describing the "free rider" problem </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is not new </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_: all deflationary systems work like that </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">some people get to (shocking) drive on roads they never paid for </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so the alternative is fiat with the jews or btc with the cyber-jews </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nah, think about it this way </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_: money can be anything that extinguishes debt. and since only producers can pay off debt, they are the only ones who can issue money </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">wrong </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">IMO </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since you can have assets without debt </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin can only work with a functioning bills of exchange market </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and you can trade those assets for others </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">without any debt being involved </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">your confused </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">your line of reasoning is based off of axioms that other people don't agree with </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">say im a farmer and i need capital to grow my crop </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so this is pointless </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which i cant sell for 6months </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lets pretend we were little kids </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and i had a pb and j </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">youre a shit farmwer </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you lend me btc at interest, the crop price will go down </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and you had a cheese sandwich </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we can trade with no debts </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is the basis of money </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">debt is the basis of money </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">money is a contract it always was </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what if we had an "abstract base sandwich", no it is not </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYs0gJD-LE </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">M.I.A. - "Bad Girls" (Official Video) - YouTube </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it isn't </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: you're working on the assumption that money is debt, come back next year </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we can agree to disagree </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but traditionally </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">money is a contract </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats all it is </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it is a token </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: money is no such thing </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is a difference </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it isnt lol </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: well, enjoy your contracts, i'll enjoy my money </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are mixing up "backed by" with "tradeable for" </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no im not </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tokens havent been used since tribal days </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in the first case, you have an entity willing to always exchange at a fixed ratio </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">a contract is debt </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollars a token </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollars are not a token lol </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are a credit instrument </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they are not </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i have dollars </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: bitcoin is a commodity, money, not a contract </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">every single dollar issued must be backed by collateral </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">let's pretend we're talking about something that doesn't involve contracts </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what does someone owe me? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tell me </td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">say, sandwich-coin </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">where can i redeem this debt instrument? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: those dollars are fed reserve liabilities backed by fed reserve assets </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they are not </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: you cant redeem it, its like a self liquidating tbill </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: bwahahaha </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the fed has others dollars </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they dont </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh, so it represents a debt that won't be paid to me </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112519" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112519">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cool system </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it doesn't work that way </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hence why it requires perpetual debt creation </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112523" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112523">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>greenspan_fan</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to a first approximation, dollars are a token </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112524" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112524">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: of course it does pull up the fed balance sheet </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112525" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112525">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no...you really don't understand... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112526" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112526">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">every single paper USD in existence is backed by assets the fed holds </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112527" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112527">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">a debt means that i am OWED something </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112528" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112528">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">namely US government bonds </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112529" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112529">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in other words i can REDEEM it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112530" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112530">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">all electronic dollars are created by commercial banks </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112531" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112531">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you cannot redeem a dollar </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112532" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112532">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">heres a lesson in semantics </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112533" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112533">09:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112534" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112534">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Busta Rhymes - Arab Money - YouTube </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112535" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112535">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">backed by collateral </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112536" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112536">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what is their collateral? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112537" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112537">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">for fed or commercial banks? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112538" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112538">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what u got? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112539" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112539">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is like saying "a mortgage is backed by a house, but you cannot ever take the house' </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112540" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112540">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">then it isn't backed by the house... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112541" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112541">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the fed collateral is US gov bonds </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112542" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112542">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which are denominated in... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112543" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112543">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td>*</td>
<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">greenspan_fan has quit (Quit: Page closed) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh rightr </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112545" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112545">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112546" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112546">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">commercial bank collateral is anything lent against </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112547" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112547">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so i have a debt that means you have to pay me other dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112548" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112548">09:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bash flushed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112549" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112549">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is silly </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112550" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112550">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: yea i agree its not redeemable, its like a 0day tbill </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112551" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112551">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">then its not a debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112552" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112552">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it is a token </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112553" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112553">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: thats the system they created since they got off gold redeemability </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112554" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112554">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it isnt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112555" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112555">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">first off, that is my point, "notes" represent assets on account </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112556" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112556">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">traditionally </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112557" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112557">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its impossible to repay debts under the current system because the dollar itself comes into existence through borrowing </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112558" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112558">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">whatever we have done in the last 40 years doesn't fundamentally change the meaning of the word money </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112559" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112559">09:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: by definition fiat money is a token that is assigned value because of a law, not because it represents a claim to anything </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112560" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112560">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nice, i'm glad you read "debt: the first 5000 years" but that is not actually the case </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112561" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112561">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fiat money and credit money are 2 different things </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112562" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112562">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112563" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112563">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we arent in zimbabwe </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112564" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112564">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is 100% fiat </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112565" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112565">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: so what's your point exactly? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112566" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112566">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we have a credit money system </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112567" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112567">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">simple easy lesson </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112568" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112568">09:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you cannot trade it in for a fixed amount of something else...there is no difference to you </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dabout: my point is bitcoin cannot function on a large scale without a bills of exchange system </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it is a token </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112571" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112571">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: you mean paper bitcoins? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112572" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112572">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which we use to exchange value </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112573" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112573">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: a token is not a liability of someone </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112574" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112574">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1279 @ 0.00051978 = 0.6648 BTC [+] {5} </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and a dollar is not a liability of anyone </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112576" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112576">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes it is </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112577" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112577">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">unless you are using that word in a completely differnt way than i think </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in which case i would like to borrow as much as i can from you </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">liability is something which is owed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112580" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112580">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">by liability he means garden chair, oh wait it makes sense now </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112581" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112581">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the fed owes us nothing </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112582" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112582">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you cannot redeem a dollar for anything </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112583" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112583">09:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it cannot be a debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112584" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112584">09:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since the fundamental core concept of a debt is that it can be "redeemed" </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">go and look at the fed balance sheet </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112586" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112586">09:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">every single dollar is a liability </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112587" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112587">09:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">backed by equal assets </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112588" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112588">09:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats what gives them value </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">"assets" </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is what you would call "accounting" </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">think about this </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you aint the fed bro </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">total debt + interest </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">davout: exactly "assets" </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">always exceeds available dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112597" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112597">09:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ugh </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112598" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112598">09:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats why there is always a BID for dollars </td>
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<td>*</td>
<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">kleinessteak (~kleinesst@g226140223.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">someone constantly needs them to repay a debt </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes i know all this, and it doesn't change the fundamental everyday reality </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not if you don't owe anything </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are clueless </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what if no one owed anybody anything? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">paper dollars are liability of the fed </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i am trying to talk about the BASIC definitions </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112607" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112607">09:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr then there would be no money </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_: leave britney alone man </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since you don't seemm to understand </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">are we at the bottom yet? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if there was no debt there would be no dollars in this system </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes there would be </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no there wouldnt be. </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_: it all makes sense in his system because the juice run the fed or w/e </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">are you saying it is physically impossible to print a dollar bill without the fed? </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">why is this happenening, CEP resigning from BTC.org? </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00088225 = 15.4835 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">CEO* </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">just so you know </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: every single dollar printed MUST be backed by an asset. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the treasury actually creates the dollars, at least m0 </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they do not print unbacked </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112624" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112624">09:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">whatever you say bud </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lololol </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">"assets" </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes[ </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112628" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112628">09:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah and gox has coins, tell us something good </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the treasury runs the printing press at the behest of the fed </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fully backed of course </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112631" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112631">09:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what planet do you come from? </td>
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<td>*</td>
<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">dust-otc has quit () </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they print $ by adding zeros to a number on a computer </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112634" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112634">09:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is why you are silly </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112635" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112635">09:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">#bitcoin-derp apparently </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112636" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112636">09:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to say that the fed has "assets" backing their dollars </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00520959 = 0.5157 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">graph it cerelenius </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea it's called a stack of IOUs davout </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are mixing up accounting terminology with real life </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112642" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112642">09:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">graph what its on the fed website </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is the key </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr you are clueless pal </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112645" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112645">09:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">a debt is a "receivable" which is an asset </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112646" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112646">09:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and tell us why they no longer publish M3? </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">just research M3 </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or rather...i should say that in our accounting system, a receivable is listed as an asset </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">^ which is a mistake </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in the human made scheme that conforms to GAAP </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">US federal reserve notes are liabilities </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112652" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112652">09:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">imho </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they are not </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">for the federal reserve </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes they are </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">watch this </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">https://lh3.ggpht.com/-XwC13k12gNI/ThuQGGC8d8I/AAAAAAAAGFU/oqFXVt8wTyY/s1600/Federal+Reserve+Assets+and+Capital.png </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112659" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112659">09:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i give you $5 </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">where did the 5 come from? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i put in a book, " cerelenius owes me $5" </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it has to be borrowed into existence </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that entry in the book is an asset </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it doesn't </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">months or drug abuse before personality disorder appeared? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is no rule anywhere that says it does </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">for example </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">susan b anthonys </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">are dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112670" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112670">09:31</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/bernanke20091008slide6.gif </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dude shut up </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and are not made by the fed </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its on the fed site </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">all US FRN are fed reserve liabilities </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112675" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112675">09:31</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">explain coins </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112676" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112676">09:31</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not coins </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they don't issue them </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what "debt" backs those? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112680" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112680">09:31</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i told you </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">US gov bonds </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think that you are missing the forest for the trees </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112683" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112683">09:32</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">everytime new FRNs are to be printed, there has to be a posted asset </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sure its fun to talk about retarded shit like this </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112685" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112685">09:32</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think you are oblivious </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">dust-otc (~dust@unaffiliated/dust-otc) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but in the real world, in your real life </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dudes we're debt backing debt insured by debt </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you don't redeem them </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you trade them </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">as tokens </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup"><MisterE> dudes we're debt backing debt insured by debt // genius... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_fedsbalancesheet.htm </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">go educate yourself </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't care what they write on paper </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">are you silly? </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thanks Apocalyptic :) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh, the fed says that they should print more money </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">every single dollar in existence must be lent into existence </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well its true the fed said it </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">now tell me where the bottom is :) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is def not true </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the fed doesnt print money they lend it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you need a borrower on the other end </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112706" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112706">09:33</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but they don't create it </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">MisterE, why would I do that exactly ? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112709" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112709">09:33</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the private sector stopped borrowing in 2007 </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the treasury does </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so the government took up the slack </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so I can get all the BTC for myself! </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the fed flooded the system with credit but there were no takers for it, hence the huge reserve balances banks now hold </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112714" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112714">09:34</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">see, that's a problem </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because you have a lot already Apocalyptic ? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the only taker has been the government </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112717" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112717">09:34</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I want some too </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hehe, let's conspire </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">private sector is borrowing for stuff like student loans etc </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nothing else </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">tyrion70 (~Adium@unaffiliated/tyrion70) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what? </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you're bent </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">poor cerelenius and the rest of the sheep who still have faitin in the financial house of cards </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hyperinflation under such a system is next to impossible, you can have hyperdeflation instead </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">!b 1 </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mistere: before the USD collapses youll have hyperdeflation </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1656677/plain/) </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like we saw in 08 </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: either way it won't bother me </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I'm in commodities </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">LOL those will collapse </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no thats shit people actually need </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to use </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112735" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112735">09:35</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">commodities collapsed 80% in 2008 </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112736" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112736">09:35</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">2008 was an aberration </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112737" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112737">09:35</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">under credit collapse ie deflation, demand collapses </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112738" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112738">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and if it crashes that hard we're all fucked so it's AK-47 time </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112739" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112739">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">2008 was a shot across the bow, a warning of the future </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112740" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112740">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and it was not an inflationary collapse </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112741" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112741">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I agree 2008 was a warning </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112742" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112742">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">just so you know </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112743" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112743">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and we're trying to spend our way out of it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112744" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112744">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the treasury doesn't just give the money to the fed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112745" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112745">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the fed pays for it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112746" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112746">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">^ </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112747" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112747">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which...how can they pay for something which they created? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112748" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112748">09:36</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the fed doesnt order much federal reserve notes </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112749" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112749">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">theres very little federal reserve notes </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112750" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112750">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you said "every dollar is a debt, it can only be created through debt" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112751" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112751">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its all bank credit </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112752" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112752">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112753" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112753">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes theres 2 ways to create dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112754" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112754">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.06089999 = 0.609 BTC [+] </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112755" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112755">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you said dollars couldn't exist without debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112756" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112756">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">commercial banks </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112757" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112757">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i just proved you wrong </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112758" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112758">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and fed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112759" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112759">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112760" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112760">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">BOTH do it via lending </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112761" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112761">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nope </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112762" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112762">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr lol no you didnt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112763" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112763">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fed buys </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112764" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112764">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not creates by lending </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112765" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112765">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">where you think the money for QE is coming from? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112766" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112766">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">when the federal reserve orders dollars in physical format </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112767" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112767">09:37</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they pay for them </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112768" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112768">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they dont </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112769" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112769">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they require an asset posted to them </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112770" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112770">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they def do </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112771" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112771">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nobody uses physical at that level </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112772" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112772">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they do not print blindly lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112773" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112773">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE yes exactly </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112774" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112774">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they pay all costs to manufacture or mint </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112775" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112775">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the discount window is all 0s and 1s </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112776" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112776">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its all bank credit </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112777" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112777">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112778" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112778">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.061 = 0.122 BTC [+] </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112779" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112779">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but there are dollars not created via debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112780" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112780">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">basically </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112781" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112781">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">every single dollar in existence is backed by debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112782" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112782">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which was my point </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112783" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112783">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no its not </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112784" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112784">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">a printed dollar </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112785" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112785">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr the physical dollars are backed by fed assets(debt) </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112786" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112786">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bought by the fed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112787" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112787">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is not a debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112788" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112788">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no...it is not </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112789" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112789">09:38</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they only buy printed dollars when a bank rqurests them </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112790" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112790">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and they have to post an asset to back it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112791" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112791">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like if you want 100bil of printed dollars you have to post 100bil of tier 1 capital assets to the fed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112792" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112792">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">THEN they make the order </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112793" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112793">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its always zero sum </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112794" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112794">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112795" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112795">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sure </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112796" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112796">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00088221 = 20.1585 BTC [-] </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112797" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112797">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00539863 = 0.5399 BTC [+] {4} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112798" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112798">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">are you saying the sum total of assets denominated in USD is less than the sum total of USD denominated debt? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112799" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112799">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so you are saying that we have a fully backed currency </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112800" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112800">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr i already told you look at the fed balance sheet its painfully obvious </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112801" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112801">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: yes by debt. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112802" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112802">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't care </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112803" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112803">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">go look at gox's balance sheet </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112804" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112804">09:39</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE: yes. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112805" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112805">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it is a piece of paper made by people </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112806" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112806">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not like handed down by moses </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112807" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112807">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you do know that right </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112808" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112808">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's all about trust </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112809" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112809">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE: total debt+ interest always exceeds available dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112810" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112810">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nothing matters but trust </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112811" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112811">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes obviously </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112812" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112812">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats why the fed needs QE </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112813" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112813">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is all obvious </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112814" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112814">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.0053995 = 0.459 BTC [+] </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112815" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112815">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but all irrelevant </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112816" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112816">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">boviously </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112817" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112817">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">new dollars must constantly be created to pay off old debts </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112818" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112818">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i told you that if i gave you $5, your debt is my asset </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112819" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112819">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is like nubbins music </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112820" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112820">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because we dont have money in the traditional sense </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112821" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112821">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they don't </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112822" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112822">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is not true </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112823" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112823">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes it is. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112824" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112824">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and obviously not true </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112825" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112825">09:40</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112826" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112826">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">here is the most trivial example </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112827" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112827">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is 100 dollars total </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112828" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112828">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sorry but he's starting to make sense </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112829" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112829">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i lend it to you </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112830" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112830">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/TCMDO </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112831" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112831">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">All Sectors; Credit Market Instruments; Liability, Level (TCMDO) - FRED - St. Louis Fed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112832" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112832">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">look </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112833" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112833">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you work for 100 a hour </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112834" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112834">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this has to go up FOREVER </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112835" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112835">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or else the system implodes </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112836" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112836">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">after one hour your debt is paid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112837" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112837">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">see how it dipped in 2008? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112838" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112838">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we're not even talking about personal liabilities yet </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112839" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112839">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sorry just not true </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112840" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112840">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">most people are mortgaged to 10x their 10 year net worth </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112841" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112841">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you had to pay the debt NOW then it would be impossible without creating more </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112842" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112842">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">look at that 08 dip and it nearly blew out the entire system </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112843" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112843">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but debts have the interesting factor of time </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112844" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112844">09:41</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius, you're a two toned fuckstick </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112845" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112845">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">meaining velocity of money </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112846" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112846">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">can handle interest </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112847" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112847">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">MisterE: i hope im making sense to you because mjr is on a different planet. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112848" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112848">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in other words, 100 can circulate to pay 100,000 worth of needs </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112849" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112849">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112850" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112850">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is so basic </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112851" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112851">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you both are on differerent planets lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112852" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112852">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't even understand your point </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112853" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112853">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sure, money is created via debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112854" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112854">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I'm just running back and forth in The Enterprise </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112855" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112855">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">who cares </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112856" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112856">09:42</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr go back to buttonwood meetings with your btc lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112857" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112857">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">why does that matter at all </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112858" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112858">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are clueless </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112859" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112859">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok...what was your point again? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112860" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112860">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you're pointless </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112861" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112861">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the end game is hyper deflation on a scale not scene in 500 years </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112862" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112862">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112863" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112863">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">whatever </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112864" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112864">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its not going to be hyperinflation </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112865" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112865">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sounds fun </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112866" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112866">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but i meant in our lives </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112867" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112867">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what is your point </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112868" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112868">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no matter how it ends we all lose </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112869" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112869">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can create money using debt and NOT hyperinflate </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112870" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112870">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or you can hyperinflate </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112871" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112871">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the soviet union was far better prepared for a crash than the US is </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112872" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112872">09:43</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the creation method is irrelevant </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112873" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112873">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">when credit is first created its inflationary for the rest of its life its deflationary </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112874" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112874">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">everything was already state owned </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112875" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112875">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i seriously don't see why you are talking about this, so maybe i missed your main point? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112876" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112876">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollars are USED as tokens </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112877" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112877">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">my point is all bitcoin will do </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112878" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112878">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_: you don't think the current syetm is sustainable do you? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112879" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112879">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in our USE of them they have nothing to do with debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112880" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112880">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is make a tiny tiny % </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112881" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112881">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sure it does mjr </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112882" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112882">09:44</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok, i buy a sandwhich </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">someone is constantly in need of dollars to pay debt </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its ALL debt related </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the price is set on the open market </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it isn't </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and that is where your point gets stupid </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's justmore currency </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats how credit currencies have a bid </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its not becuase the government says so lol. </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;lasers </td>
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<td><b>gribble</b></td>
<td class="breakup">┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its becuase of debt. theres always a shortage of dollars </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">again, irrelelevant point </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">debt is denominated in dollars so you need them </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is no shortage of dollars </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you owe someone sure </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there always is </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats why everyone is broke </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">BTC is different because the community decides on value without government influence </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so i don't see why </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">same as dollars </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE: btc is a commodity </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you were to sell your car </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">virtual commodity </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">youre broke, you can't afford to make a graph </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how many dollars do you HAVE to accept </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: all dollars exist via debt. do you understand this concept </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">none, you can pick whatever number you want </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">wankhole </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so who cares </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is irrelevant </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 371 @ 0.00539919 = 2.0031 BTC [-] {5} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">for me selling my car </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.47 = 1.88 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">total debt + interest surpasses all available dollars at a given time </td>
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<td>*</td>
<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">kleinessteak (~kleinesst@g226140223.adsl.alicedsl.de) has left #bitcoin-assets </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">meaning there is a shortage of dollars </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">again who cares </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">as long as i have some, who cares </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats why they have value </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">scarcity </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">eventually tha check comes due </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they have "value" because someone is willing to take them </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes misterE </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can blow up bubbles in the mean time </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">perpetual debt is impossible </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like the S&Ls </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">bitbuyer has quit (Remote host closed the connection) </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and big bangks </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">look...lets say i owe 50 dollars </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because everything in nature has a beginning and an end </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i al comes out in the wash </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">even GM </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">compound interest has no end </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">compound debt* </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and you "forgive" that debt if i do you a favotr </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr banks cant forgive debt lol </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">theyd be insolvent </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they can </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they cant </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and they do </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes they can </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in the end we'll knock 4 or 6 zeroes off of the end and it will be business as usual :p </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">do you not live in real life </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they do </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">a bank can take loses on max 1-2% of total debt </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">do you not use your eyes? </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they get tax credit </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in the united states about 2.5% of mortgage holders defaulted </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so they CAN forgive it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and that caused the system to be insolvent </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they cant. </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">4 mental patients walk into a bar </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is all irrelevant </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">who cares </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">banks claim writeoffs for written down debt </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00088225 = 3.132 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE; they can only write down a tiny % of it before they are insolvent. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">exactly </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there are accounting rules for doing exactly that </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">allowance for bad accounts </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ill have the beef </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol yea 2008 was accounting rules </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr go back to school </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what is your point </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they CAN and DO forgive debts </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">right </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is what i said </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since reserve requirements are a pittance </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">2008 bank liabilities exceeded assets </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you said they CAN'T and DON'T </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there are no reserve requirements </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there havent been for 30 years </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">wow you are dumb </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you were selling your car...how would this matter to you? </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea there is </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">"reserve" means a tier 1 asset which is a US government bond </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is payable in... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollars </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE lol no there isnt, the fed hasnt set reserve requirements since the 80's </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so it is a big circle jerk </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1112990" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1112990">09:50</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">currency reserves </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">10% </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: yes its a form of check kiting </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nice </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't care </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i really really don't care </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE; LOL not a single bank in the US or europe has 10% currency reserves </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sup mjr_ </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what up KRS-One </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they have closer to 0.5% </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113000" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113000">09:50</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">shorting this bitch =D </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hows it been </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">me too </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">up a bit </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">haha </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11996645 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr you will always be poor </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113007" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113007">09:50</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i hate people who are not pragmatic </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113008" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113008">09:50</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I think we have seen the bottom today boys </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113009" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113009">09:50</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you haven't answered how empiracally this would be any different when trying to sell a car </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113010" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113010">09:51</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius, where can i sinect in your kak? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or buy a sandwich </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i want either A) a certain amount of bitocoin, or B) a certain number of dollars </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">identical </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the smartest guy in here is the one with the largest stage that inflates in value when all the dumbasses do work </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea popescu </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he knows the game </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113017" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113017">09:51</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes, hes very handsome, but thats not all </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113018" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113018">09:51</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr your a tool. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113020" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113020">09:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">haha </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113021" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113021">09:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and youll always be one </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113022" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113022">09:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113023" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113023">09:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you have fun with your theories </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113024" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113024">09:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i'll keep living in the real world </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113025" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113025">09:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you think running around buttonwood trees with your iphone and 0.001btc matters </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">glad i don't have to share it with you </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113027" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113027">09:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well...unlike gox we have never been hacked </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113028" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113028">09:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and i dont even know who you are </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you need something to take first </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but i guess you know who i am </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">before you can be hacked </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i've never seen you around here before </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ill take your moms xanax </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr arent you that buttonwood guy? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and you obviously aren't smart enough to be a part of the convo </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yep </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like i said you know who i am </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what convo lol everyone in here is clueless except 1-2 guys </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">satoshi square, blah blah blah </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">Monarch03 (~Monarch@adsl-dyn116.78-98-196.t-com.sk) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: i come in here once in awhile to break mirceas balls </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like i said </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are mixing up primatry market with secondary market </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i could give two shits about how tokens are created </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">go back to school </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its what you do after that that matters </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you treat it like a "debt" and you will never be repayed </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i could care less </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it cant be repayed </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i treat it like a token </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i already explained why lol </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not when the creator given them with a promise to pay back </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and it works like a token </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">Bugpowder has quit (Quit: Page closed) </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">exactly misterE </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">gold was what paid debts off in the past </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i could care less what the creator said or wants to do </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its not xanax </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">gold was VITAL </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if i want a sandwich, i ask how many dollars </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's over only a matter of time </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they replace gold with the US government bond </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and give them that many if it is important </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: looks like it didnt break resistance, maybe we will indeed see a new low now </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">KRS-One: i dont think we take out the late december lows </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">again, completely irrelevant </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">380 </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">soon as oil is denominated in another currency the jug will be up </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.462995 = 3.704 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oil is all USD got left </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hmm right </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE: as bad as the USD is it will be the last currency to collapse </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">true </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but that is where i think you get ridiculous </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like, if no more dollars are used </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">KRS-One: despite all this shitty news and bad atmosphere we havent even exceeded late december lows </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea people cant diversify </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we will never be able to obtain things </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like, guess commerce is done? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we just find other tokens </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius so i'm thinking lower </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and they work pretty much the same </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well yea it freezes up for a short term. </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">alternatively, we can just go into prolonged slump, that will end when we diversify away from oil </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: lol its not the end of the world </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i know its not </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">my point is it's irrelevant </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to what people do </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and will continue to do </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: I wish, what I really wish is we would pay the real cost for the oil </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: these types of collapses have been occuring every since capitalism was introduced, just the scale of them has been getting progressively wrose </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">worse </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">treat it as debt if you like </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i really don't care </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11064728 = 0.6639 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">again i don't care </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you will when your bank account is not accessible </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im sure your bitcoins will save you then </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea the size of the bubbles are bigger and bigger </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you hold dollars i guess </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't care </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">now we're inflating countries like Ireland and Greece </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">paper dollars will be the only thing that have value under that scenario </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">PAPER </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cool...what do we use at satoshi square again? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not electronic </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh thats right </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">paper money </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">maybe they will keep you warm if you stuff them inside your clothes </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cuz that is tokens </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.0053975 = 0.5236 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which don't rely on shit from anyone </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is why i use them </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well bitcoin is completely different then the dollar </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its not a liability </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cuz its maybe too fucking obvious </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh, so i can't buy stuff with it </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i can't give it to people </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i can't be paid for my time </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the problem with bitcoin is saleability </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in what way </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it has none </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is it different </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hence why it moves 40% in a day. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i just sold today </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so it can be sold </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes but its extremely illiquid </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i have empiraccally proven that </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">illiquid != can't be sold </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.00534929 = 0.6205 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so maybe you just don't get these fundamental points </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well i like using saleability, the more btc you throw at the market what happens? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i sold some </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it collapses </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">guess what happens </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">when i sell a lot of dollars for euros? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nothing </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVyS9JwtFoQ </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Pixies - Debaser (Official Video) - YouTube </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yep </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollar has extreme saleability </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fixed exchange rate </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">obviously no one trades forex </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and forex risk doesn't exist </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sorry, you are right </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you need to sell hundreds of billions to move it 0.5% </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what ? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i am silly </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so you DO move the price </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ofc you do </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes of course </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">slightly </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i like how you agree with me every time </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin you move the price with a tiny lot </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and the saleability decreases as you keep moving </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">difference of scale not kind </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">same with anything else </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can get rid of dollars at any time of the day </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can walk down the street and get rid of all of them </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i can get rid of bitcoin at any time of day </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats called saleability </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no you cant lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and you can do it with bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you need a willing bidder </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ah </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so if you hold euros in the us </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">are they "saleablae" </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">youre projecting </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollar has near infinite bidders </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113177" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113177">10:01</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ah shit i just posted this to -analysis http://i.imgur.com/Qsc61NR.gif </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113178" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113178">10:01</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thas nice </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113179" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113179">10:01</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">isnt it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113180" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113180">10:01</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr you can walk down the street and sell your dollars for products </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113181" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113181">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113182" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113182">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what is your point </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113183" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113183">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats saleability </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113184" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113184">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">why are you referencing the euro </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113185" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113185">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i can walk down the street and buy products for bitocin </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113186" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113186">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td>*</td>
<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">twizts (457d6d20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.125.109.32) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113187" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113187">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you never have to touch the euro to get rid of dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113188" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113188">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so i am missing something i guess </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113189" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113189">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr LOL where? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113190" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113190">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">shrems bar? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113191" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113191">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in panama </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113192" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113192">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hotdogs? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113193" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113193">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">700k and a fresh passport </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113194" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113194">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the price of them collapses if you start selling </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113195" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113195">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.11052505 = 2.6526 BTC [-] {6} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113196" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113196">10:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: you'd have problems with paper dollars of higher denominations, too </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113197" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113197">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">terrae </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113198" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113198">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">my fave restaurant </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113199" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113199">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats where i am </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113200" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113200">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">btw </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113201" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113201">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not nyc </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113202" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113202">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but sure, there i could go to evr </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113203" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113203">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or use bitcoin on foodler </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113204" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113204">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or use gyft </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113205" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113205">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">same as the dollar yes </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113206" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113206">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or antyhing else </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113207" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113207">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">man who walk sideways through security always going to bang cock </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113208" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113208">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">anything when you sell enough, goes down in value </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113209" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113209">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and don't let me start about credit cards </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113210" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113210">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr the price starts collapsing </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113211" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113211">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since it means demand has gotten smaller </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113212" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113212">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the larger size you do </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113213" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113213">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes, just like it would with dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113214" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113214">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it wont </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113215" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113215">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or anything on earht </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113216" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113216">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">theres nobody on the planet </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113217" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113217">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that can tank the dollar market </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113218" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113218">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok, say everyone in the world does not want dollars for oil </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113219" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113219">10:03</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they won't accept dollars for oil </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113220" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113220">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">someone else will need them </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113221" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113221">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no change to the dollars value? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113222" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113222">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to pay debt off. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113223" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113223">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113224" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113224">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nope </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113225" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113225">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">freefalling </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113226" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113226">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since debt can be denominated in anything </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113227" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113227">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i can have a euro backed devt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113228" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113228">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or a yen backed debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113229" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113229">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">majority of debt is denominated in dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113230" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113230">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">when stamp hits 425 I'll buy </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113231" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113231">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is something called "competing currencies" you should look it up </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113232" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113232">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113233" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113233">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh will you 2 get a room already :p </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113234" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113234">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">misterE you missed your chance </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113235" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113235">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">MisterE: you wont want to do that </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113236" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113236">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lower.. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113237" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113237">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are saying "this is the way it HAS to be" and proving that "this is the way it IS" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113238" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113238">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">really? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113239" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113239">10:04</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113240" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113240">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">too uch support at 400 </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113241" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113241">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if no one wants dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113242" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113242">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the dollar is worthless </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113243" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113243">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the bottom was in </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113244" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113244">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">recheck your analysis </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113245" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113245">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if no one wants bitcoin, bitcoin is worthless </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113246" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113246">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in other words </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113247" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113247">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if it breaks 400 it's a rout </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113248" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113248">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the value is set by the supply and demand of the item in question </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113249" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113249">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tripple bottom off the late december lows </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113250" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113250">10:05</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: there is over $11 million loaned out on long positions..they're going to get squeezed out </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">regardless of whether it was issued by a govt, mined on a blockchain, or came out of my ass </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I dont think traditional SA applies to CC charts </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">KRS-One: what site </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sry bitfinex </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitfinex of course </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is there another site with lending? </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">winkidex </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think btc.sx </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">10:1! </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nuts huh </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh really </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">crazy </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">can you short 10:1 </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">:) </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that'll get you in trouble </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah i wouldnt touch it though </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">me neither </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">doesnt it auto liquidate </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the variance is too high </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it would </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it'll hodl </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitfinex does </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what happens when your underwater then? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">trims positions, no? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats what i just asked </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cie </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hmm check i could be wrong </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i am betting they have some sort of autoliquidation </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">krs one you cant do 10:1 shorting with btc where are they borrowing them from </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what 0.1 btc </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is no other way to avoid that scenario </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can only do btc in tiny sizes </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i mean, you CAN do whatever you want </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its too illiquid for anything else </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you have personality disorder </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no you cant nobody will lend you 10x btc </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">theyd go bankrupt </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sure they would </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">check for yourself </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">where? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you seem to use the word can and can't in strange ways </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im talking about size </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">500btc 1000btc </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that aren't the ways the rest of us use them </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not 0.005 </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah... </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">big, all over </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so, i can go bankrupt, right? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which means i can lend coins in whatever size i wanted </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr someone giving you 10:1 leverage </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i WOULDN'T </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">why not </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is different from CAN'T </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">becuase youd go bust dumbass </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like i said variance is too high </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">peaks and troughs </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think that actually is why we disagree </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">your an idiot, bitcoins main issue is piss poor liquidity and overall tiny market </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because you keep using the word HAS TO and CAN and CANNOT and IMPOSSIBLE </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you're begging for 50k </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to things that i have seen happen </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it cannot be impossible if i've seen it </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">weird mother fucker </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or else we just throw logic right out </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">listen pal, every credit instrument in bitcoin will bust out sooner then later </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats what happens under a deflationary system </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">have you heard of this thing called the pink sheets </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113326" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113326">10:10</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its an otc market </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113327" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113327">10:10</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">your prof tell you that? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113328" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113328">10:10</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it also has poor liquidity </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113329" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113329">10:10</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so that means equities will never work </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113330" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113330">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea its the junk market. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113331" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113331">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because otc markets are illiquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113332" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113332">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol 99% of the otc market is junk </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113333" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113333">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113334" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113334">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't care </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113335" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113335">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are saying that because of POOR exchanges </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113336" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113336">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin MUST be illiquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113337" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113337">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i didnt say why </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113338" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113338">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im saying it is </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113339" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113339">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is no world in which bitcoin is not illiquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113340" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113340">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i agree </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113341" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113341">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but since i have the ability to picture other markets </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113342" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113342">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which have matured </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113343" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113343">10:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i can picture a market for bitcoin that is not ililquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113344" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113344">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and that does function efficiently </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113345" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113345">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like for example forex </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113346" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113346">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin is too illiquid to function as anything other then a speculative tool, in terms of money in only functions as such in cybercrime for example because there are NO alternatives. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113347" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113347">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">right NOW </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113348" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113348">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but you just said that you were talking about the way it is now </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113349" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113349">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it could be different </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113350" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113350">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it has been different </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113351" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113351">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it has changed a lot </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113352" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113352">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">only thing giving btc liquidity is cybercrime </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113353" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113353">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and you seem to think that time doesn't exist </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113354" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113354">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ah </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113355" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113355">10:12</a>]</span></td>
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<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113356" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113356">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its not nerds meeting up with pennys underneath a tree </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113357" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113357">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">of course </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113358" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113358">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so playboy </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113359" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113359">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tigerdirect </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113360" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113360">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">trading 50 dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113361" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113361">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which tree do they meet up at? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113362" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113362">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tigerdirect is zero sum </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113363" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113363">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ah theres only one fuck this mad </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113364" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113364">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ciao bellas </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113365" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113365">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you said "cannot function" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113366" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113366">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they dont accept btc they accept bitpay </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113367" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113367">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">same diff </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113368" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113368">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they settle in DOLLARS </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113369" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113369">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not bitcoin </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113370" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113370">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since I AM PAYING WITH BITCOIN </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113371" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113371">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes its no different then selling them at an exchange for usd </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113372" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113372">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and then paying with usd </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113373" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113373">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i could give two shits what happens between me paying bitcoin and getting the product i want </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113374" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113374">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113375" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113375">10:13</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what did i pay with? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113376" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113376">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tigerdirect means zero. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113377" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113377">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what did i get? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113378" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113378">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i again, don't care </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113379" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113379">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i pay with the currency i chose </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113380" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113380">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and get the product i wanted </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113381" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113381">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you don't understand the diference between today's bitcoin and the inherent properties of bitcoin </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113382" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113382">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius, can you give me a quote on dogs? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113383" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113383">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin is not limited to illiquidity </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113384" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113384">10:14</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dogs? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113385" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113385">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it is illiquid right now </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113386" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113386">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.0053136 = 0.4517 BTC [+] {4} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113387" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113387">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: it will always be illiquid. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113388" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113388">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like for example twitter shares were illiquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113389" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113389">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes, ive got some things here and im trying to decide </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113390" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113390">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or facebook, and now, they are MORE liquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113391" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113391">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">funny how things change... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113392" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113392">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ugh </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113393" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113393">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea and in bitcoin they dont. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113394" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113394">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are such an idiot... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113395" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113395">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">of course </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113396" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113396">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it is JUST as illiquid as it was in 2009 </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113397" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113397">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin will always be a niche place </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113398" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113398">10:15</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">obviuosly </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you said that its state of liquidity is fixed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113400" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113400">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00539182 = 0.2265 BTC [+] {4} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113401" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113401">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113402" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113402">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or are you going to change what you said again </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh ok </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its state of liquidity will always be poor </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113405" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113405">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so it can become MORE liquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113406" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113406">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">at what point will it cease being able to become more liquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113407" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113407">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it will never be liquid enough </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113408" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113408">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what is its inherent liquidity barrier </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113409" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113409">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">look its 2014 </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113410" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113410">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since there must be one </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113411" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113411">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius enough for what? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113412" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113412">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and we have 40% daily swings occuring </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113413" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113413">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since at some point it cannot become more liquid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113414" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113414">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113415" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113415">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't care </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113416" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113416">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">could bitcoin become MORE liquid tomorrow </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113417" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113417">10:16</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if it can, then it could keep doing so... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113418" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113418">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 610 @ 0.00539989 = 3.2939 BTC [+] {3} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113419" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113419">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and that is what you don't get </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113420" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113420">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: enough for it to be used as settlement without having to go through shit like bitpay </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113421" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113421">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the issues you bring up have nothing to do with bitcoin </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113422" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113422">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but rather immature markets for ANYTHING </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113423" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113423">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nobody outside of cybercrime(gambling,porn,frauds) settles in bitcoin </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113424" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113424">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and those that do do it from necessity </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113425" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113425">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not because they want to lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113426" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113426">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113427" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113427">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im not talking about your little nerd with 0.01 balance </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113428" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113428">10:17</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">your argument for the dollar was its "necessity" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113429" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113429">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius in some countries you can't settle for USD, you have to go through exchange, so what? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113430" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113430">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.00539989 = 0.1296 BTC [+] {4} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113431" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113431">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because we couldn't have debts without it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113432" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113432">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113433" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113433">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius, i lol'd </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113434" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113434">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius: according to btc.sx faq: For each position opened, btc.sx will execute an open market order at over x10 the value of your deposit. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113436" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113436">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is this thing called "international trade" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113437" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113437">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: right </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113438" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113438">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">get off the couch cerel </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113439" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113439">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you do know they don't use dollars everywhere </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113440" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113440">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">It is important to remember that losses can also be multiplied however losses will never exceed your deposit. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113441" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113441">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">right? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113442" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113442">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in other words they will autoliquidate you </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113444" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113444">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: im talking about nobody settles for anything other then fiat at the moment in btc, OTHER then those groups i outlined </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113445" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113445">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113446" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113446">10:18</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">krs-one: yea so they have some protection in place </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113447" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113447">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 650 @ 0.0054 = 3.51 BTC [+] {4} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113448" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113448">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is also no control over this =/ </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113449" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113449">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">protection? yeah, you can only lose all your money </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113450" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113450">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tigerdirect adopted bitpay not bitcoin lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113451" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113451">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are fully "protected" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113452" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113452">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius i'm not a "cybercriminal" and for some transactions I settle for btc, problem? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113453" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113453">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">don't bother </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113454" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113454">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork what did i say? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113455" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113455">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tiny ass ammounts </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113456" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113456">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">for every obvious real world example </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113457" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113457">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tiny </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113458" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113458">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he will dismiss it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113459" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113459">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the problem with adopting bitpay or coinbase </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113460" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113460">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>chetty</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I settle with btc, and I am not a criminal either </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is you can never offer clients huge discounts </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113462" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113462">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he is wrong about pretty every statement, goes back and says he didn't mean "ALL" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113463" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113463">10:19</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i do as well </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113464" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113464">10:20</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can offer 1-2% </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113465" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113465">10:20</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we all probably settle using bitcoin </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113466" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113466">10:20</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea does </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113467" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113467">10:20</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov does </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113468" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113468">10:20</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">wanna learn? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113469" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113469">10:20</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea is part of the fraud category lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113470" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113470">10:20</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius nonsense, discounts are based on your sales strategy, btc or not </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113471" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113471">10:20</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: merchants are adopting bitpay/coinbase to tap into the btc liquidity and the free publicity they get, nobody is settling in btc outright </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113472" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113472">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so it seems that it is possible </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113473" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113473">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you see a dog swimming, you think that dogs are aquatic creatures </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113474" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113474">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is the problem </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113475" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113475">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">exactly </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113476" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113476">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00548 = 2.74 BTC [+] {4} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113477" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113477">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i will sell my products for the amount of currency i want </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113478" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113478">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">at no point have you ever shown me an example of how it is different to buy something with a dollar and a bitcoin </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113479" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113479">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">as far as price setting </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113480" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113480">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">who settles in btc on a larger scale? gambling sites, porn, strange "finance" operations etc. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113481" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113481">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they do it out of necessity </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113482" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113482">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we listed multiple people who do settle </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113483" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113483">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and they only settle using dollars "out of necessity" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113484" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113484">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you listed nobody. </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113485" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113485">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea cant use fiat </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113486" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113486">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ugh </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113487" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113487">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he can </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113488" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113488">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no he cant lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113489" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113489">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and i've seen him do it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113490" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113490">10:21</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he cant run his exchange with fiat </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113491" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113491">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he paid for our coffees using fiat if i remember correctly </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113492" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113492">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he COULD </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113493" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113493">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im talking about his business </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113494" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113494">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but he doesn't want to </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113495" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113495">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since the whole point is moving past fiat </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113496" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113496">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr you are a child probably 20 years old </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113497" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113497">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113498" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113498">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">your googling skills must suck </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113499" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113499">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are obvlivious </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113500" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113500">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are oblicous </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113501" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113501">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is simple stuff </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113502" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113502">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if i want to sell my car </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113503" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113503">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin will never work on a large scale </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113504" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113504">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">knotwork (~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113505" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113505">10:22</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can be guaranteed that </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113506" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113506">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">djcoin_ (~d@ppp121-45-167-43.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113507" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113507">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in your opinion </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113508" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113508">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and no ican't </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113509" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113509">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you cannot guarantee that </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113510" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113510">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the market cap will fluctuate </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113511" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113511">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113512" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113512">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like every asset on earth </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113513" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113513">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>chetty</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hey how about a bet? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113514" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113514">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">between 10-50bil dependant on cybercrime </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113515" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113515">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it will behave like every asset on earth </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113516" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113516">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">price wise thats between 500-2500 </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113517" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113517">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is a large scale </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113518" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113518">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">depends on what you meant </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113519" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113519">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since its under 10 now </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113520" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113520">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the world is not running out of crypto </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113521" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113521">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are talking about a 5X increase </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113522" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113522">10:23</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nor fiat </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113523" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113523">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the world isn't running out of fiat </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113524" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113524">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ugh </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113525" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113525">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 185 @ 0.00549555 = 1.0167 BTC [+] {2} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113526" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113526">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">just take everything you say, change the word bitcoin to dollar </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113527" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113527">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can come back here in 5 years </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113528" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113528">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and you come up with the same thing </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113529" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113529">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and btc wont be far from where it is </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113530" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113530">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which means it won't have failed? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113531" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113531">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">people will still be using iut </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113532" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113532">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it wont fail in the sense of going to zero </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113533" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113533">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they will still be settling debts </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113534" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113534">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it will fail in mass adoption </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113535" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113535">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no bitcoiners have jumped off something high </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113536" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113536">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">a niche market </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113537" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113537">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113538" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113538">10:24</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you know that by your standards </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113539" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113539">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the dollar has failed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113540" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113540">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113541" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113541">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.00549585 = 0.6045 BTC [+] {3} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113542" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113542">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since the dollar has not been adopted by the vast majority of people on earth </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113543" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113543">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well yes the dollar is a failure its a defaulted on promise to pay gold </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113544" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113544">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its a niche market </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113545" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113545">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but we use em </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113546" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113546">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and it works for now </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113547" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113547">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the dollar is accepted by the vast majority lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113548" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113548">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113549" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113549">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">things change cere, the world keeps turning </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113550" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113550">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it isn't accepted in europe </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113551" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113551">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or china </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113552" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113552">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the chinese yuan is defacto backed by dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113553" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113553">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius gosh, gold defaulted on promise to be a currency, your point? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113554" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113554">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">via US treasury debt </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113555" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113555">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fuck off </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113556" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113556">10:25</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0054989 = 2.7495 BTC [+] </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113557" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113557">10:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: the same way bitcoin will because of what i outlined earlier in the chat. a tiny tiny % of holders will be filthy rich while everyone else is filthy poor </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113558" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113558">10:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that will always be btc </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113559" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113559">10:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">juest like usd </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113560" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113560">10:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113561" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113561">10:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its called moeny </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113562" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113562">10:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">both are different sides of the same coin </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113563" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113563">10:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius this will be the case anyhow, nature laws... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113564" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113564">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">unrelated to btc </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113565" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113565">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113566" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113566">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its related to btc because as people WORK hard to build the ecosystem and create purchasing power, it gets siphoned off by the large holders </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113567" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113567">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its not nature laws lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113568" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113568">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its man laws </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113569" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113569">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">man in the image of god </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113570" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113570">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or japan </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113571" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113571">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or africa </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113572" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113572">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its accepted in the US </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113573" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113573">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is why i think they say US on them </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113574" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113574">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the vast majority of people in the world may never touch a dollar </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113575" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113575">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or have one in a bank account </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113576" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113576">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so they haven't adopted it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113577" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113577">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so if only a few people use bitcoin to transact their business, it'll be the same as the romanian lei </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113578" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113578">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is still a currency </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113579" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113579">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is used by people </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113580" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113580">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to buy things, sell things, and to pay off debts </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113581" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113581">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is no fundamental difference so far to bitcoin, you seem to think that gox is part of bitcoin or something </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113582" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113582">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>chetty</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I am curious, why come here and argue cerelenius, whats in it for you? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113583" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113583">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">trolls love to get fed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113584" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113584">10:27</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113585" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113585">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">chetty: im not argueing </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113586" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113586">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is ridiculous </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113587" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113587">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you do realize i could cease accepting dollars tomorrow right? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113588" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113588">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im pointing out whats painfully obvious for anyone who can deductively reason </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113589" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113589">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113590" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113590">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and if no one wants dollars... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113591" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113591">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i explained to you what gives dollars a bid </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113592" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113592">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you're not trolling, i wrote the book. you have personality disorder </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113593" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113593">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are going round in a circle </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113594" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113594">10:28</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or i guess to put it in simple terms "to the extent to which someone wants a currency, based on how much of it there is, that will define its value" </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113595" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113595">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">btc will make a handful rich and everyone else will wake up one day realizing they benefited NOTHING from it </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113596" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113596">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollars value: supply and demand </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113597" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113597">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin value: supply and demand </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113598" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113598">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i am not seeing the difference </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113599" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113599">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dollar demand is always higher then supply </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113600" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113600">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or else it would be worthless </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113601" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113601">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin is not the same </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113602" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113602">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so too bc </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113603" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113603">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius how did i benefit from dollars? </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113604" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113604">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>chetty</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well the fed isn't printing btc by the bucket load </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113605" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113605">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i never had any </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113606" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113606">10:29</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to the extent i want dollars, i will allow people to pay me in dollars </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113607" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113607">10:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: im not argueing the fiat system being better </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113608" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113608">10:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113609" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113609">10:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are both BAD monetary systems </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113610" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113610">10:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">money good </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113611" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113611">10:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you don't understand monetary systems </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113612" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113612">10:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it would seem </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113613" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113613">10:30</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you seem to think they obey some law </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no you do </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">supply/demand lol </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius create GOOD monetary system that suits you </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yo mama </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no, i think that the market sets their value </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i told you i can throw trillions of dollars around and nothing happens </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so waht </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and the proof is bernanke doing it </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah absolutely nothing happening </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i mean </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">whats happening? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its like i can still buy a hamburger for a nickel </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">were feeding you </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">why is gold/oil all below their highs </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00088238 = 30.0892 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.10350208 = 0.3105 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">despite all the fiat printing </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its like the CPI has never moved </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: when debts become so large, inflation is impossible </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is simply answered </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">deflation begins </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol its always possible </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are saying that a dollar cannot become worth lesss </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it can yes </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">under a political crisis </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok then </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so it could still inflate further </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is basic </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but we are no where near that lol </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">any dollar inflation is followed by deflation </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: when debts become so large, inflation is impossible </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hence boom/bust </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: yes </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">except then you said "yes it can inflate further </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sure incremental steps </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which means, perhaps you don't understand what impossible means </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think that must be it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">look oil was 150 in 2007 </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its 100 today </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">wrong </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">despite 5 trillion of fed printing </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it means "CANNOT HAPPEN EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES" </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">under the credit money system it cant </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">see, its super simple </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it can </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">wha? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there are 3 apples </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you couldnt even cut enough trrees </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and 3 dollars </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to produce the paper to print on in time </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">each apple costs 1 dollar </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius the money was not actually printed </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if i print a trillion </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov yes i know i said that already. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the apples still sit there </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it was lent into existence </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no you didnt </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok, so now we're discussing dollars, why? </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the banks that got it returned it to fed or bought back bonds </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the value asymptotically approaches 0 </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he apparently thinks that math doesn't apply to dollars or something </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if it got really released into circulatoin, insta hyperinflation </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov lol it cant get released into circulation </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like if i print more, but still have the same basket of goods, at a certain point, i can buy more </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so your reasoning is deeply flawed </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it has to be LENT into circulation </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you need both borrowers and lenders </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes, that is exactly it jurov </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">borrowers were too broke to borrow anymore </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and if no one wants to borrow </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok thjen </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the banks couldnt lend it becuase there was no collateral left </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they could only lend against the LAST remaining collateral </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they can lend without collateral </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">broke borrowers being you celerius </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which was US government bonds </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius you can (will have to) release it into pension funds </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hence why they bought bonds </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no lending </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">again who cares </td>
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<td>*</td>
<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">MisterE (~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hyperinflation = political crisis </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the US is nowhere near that </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so there 5 trillions are as good as non existing </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is anyone lending to you? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">who cares </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: those 5 trillions have to be repaid </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so your saying that the value of the dollar depends on how many of them their are </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like your aunt </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are inflationary when created </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but DEFLATIONARy for rest of their life </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">at no point does a currency become SO worthless that it gets value </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because they have to be repaid with interest </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they don't </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00549979 = 0.2255 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you seem to think that magically dollars appear to pay back debts </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you do </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but there is this thing called bankruptcy </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">failure </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">where the money (shocker) NEVER gets paid back </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ryernal </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea it doesnt work on a soveriegn level </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and guess what </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it has before </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it does </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">obvoiusly </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol when? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">um... </td>
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<td><b>Vexual</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its eternal </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the US government cannot go bankrupt </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i have heard of 0 countries being removed from the planet because they went broke </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you would have a total implosion of the worldwide banking system </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i dno't care </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">Vexual has quit () </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr your going on ignore </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">make something of value </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">trade it to someone else for something of value </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius market crashes, happened like 5 times in last 10 years, each time tons of usd where DELETED </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you can do those two things </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: yes exactly </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">youll be fine </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">all the buillshit that goes on, is irrelevant </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: during debt collapse, USDs get deleted and the left over ones swell in value </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nobody repayed them, they just vanished </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">make something of value, and the rest doesn't matter </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: yep thats what happened in 08 </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can hand wave about financial instruments it doesn't change reality </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">one day people are going to wake up and see their bank accounts reduced by 95% </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the only thing that will hold up will be paper USDs </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok, so they don't have to be repid, right? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">are you saying that no one will be able to then buy berak? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bread? </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius most people in US have actually negative balances </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">*repaid </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: no they can be defaulted on </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so no problem there </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">people are jumping in btc-e trollbox haha </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is what you don't get...if i took away 90% of the wealth of the entire world...the system wouldn't have changed at all </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr one thing i know is youll be poor and stupid forever </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since wealth and currency are relative </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so you are right </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they can't take bank accounts balances like in eu </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you have 10 dollars, and everyone else has 2 </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because americans don't have any </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are a "tenionaire" </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: it depends what class of americans </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it evens out, richer have just bigger mortgages </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its difficult to take balances in america because america tends to have stronger rule of law then most of europe </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">average american up to 150k can't come up with 2 grand by month end </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">even todate </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">as bad as the US is </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you seem to think, and correct me if i'm wrong, that money serves a purpose outside of me buying things with it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">europe has a stronger history of fascism </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well, they'll take the home instead </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">er..."foreclose" </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: no i dont think that, the system does hence its FLAW </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">while true jurov </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats nice </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: money is sterile, people think if they put money in a bank vault it will have children </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i saw a hammer that thought it was a screwdriver </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and bitcoin is sterile too </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i used it to hammer nails </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">worked fine </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">those people are stupid </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">everyone who gained in bitcoin there has to be a equal loser </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not true </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its ZERO sum </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it isn't </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">here is the basis of money </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes it is </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is a fixed amount of "stuff" in the world </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">1% of bitcoins cannot be spent without the market going to zero </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00549979 = 0.9955 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i may want some of it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or close to zero </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">wrong </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">obvoiusly </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">1% of btc is 210,000btc </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">go spend that </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if i want some of the stuff, i trade some of the stuff i have </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i could buy 210,000 worth of doge coin </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">most peoples bitcoin wealth is unspendable paper gain </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius, just go to mircea and buy some s.mpoe for 210k bitcoins </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no problem there :) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which would push the price up to wher ebitcoin is </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lost 750K BTC oops </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you can spend it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">haha jurov </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if someone is wililng to accept it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the bitcoin market would implode </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats what would happen </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it wouldn't </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes it would lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you have x tokens, and y "things" </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is a ratio of x to y </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is money </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">whats with the elementary school examples </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you cannot understand anything more advanced yet </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so stick to the basicsa </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius so if i pay wages in BTC it will implode? elaborate </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you dont understand that bitcoin is zero sum </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its a sterile asset </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because it isn't </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it doesnt produce anything on its own </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its not supposed to </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it can always only make a tiny tiny % rich </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its supposed to represent a certain portion of actual things in the real world which i may want </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">at the expense of everyone else </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not true </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its like the rules of logic don't apply to you </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its not 0 sum </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius it's cash, why should it produce value? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">exactly </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i have no clue if he understand that </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: it isnt cash. its a virtial commodity </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">3 apples, 3 bitcoins </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">each apple = 1 bitcoins </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: cash has a tight bid/ask spread bitcoin has a wide one </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is the situoation right now </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is like saying </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">humans have 2 arms </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh that is a guy with one arm, not human </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in other words, idiotic </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr it will always be the situation </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius got to forex and lo, currencies with low volumes have large spreads </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it won' </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">t </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">exactly </td>
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<td>*</td>
<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">tyrion70 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the relative demand will basically set the bid ask spread (since bitcoins supply grows at a fixed rate) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if half the world chose to use bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i already explained bitcoin has 2 sources of demand 1) speculative and 2) settlement, break down what settlement means and you get mostly black market activities and maybe 5% of little bits and pieces </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the bid ask spread would be tighter than the dollar </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">FOR NOW </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">everytime a merchant adopts bitpay or coinbase </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you stupid troll </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its just another cashout option </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">again irrelevant </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it means nothing </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">BITPAY says they want bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they will ACCEPT bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">whats important is adoption by people who actually settle in btc </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in size </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">meaning they are trading bitcoin for soething </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitpay doesnt accept shit they just broker a trade </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how is that important, you said it is impossible for it to work </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are like a one way exchange </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are never exposed to bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if i wanted an apple </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i send bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i get an apple </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is sold to someone for usd </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and then that pays for the apple </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there has to be a willing BID </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">at all times </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius if btc is good only for storage, it'd be worthless </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">almost like if you paid pesos for it? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">from mexico? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: no your misunderstanding me </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how could that system possibly work? </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">any currency is worthless as a value storage </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">certain things on the internet have to use bitcoin becuase of necessity </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is why bank balances are worht 0 </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like cybercrime and those gambling sites </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">UGH </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats where bitcoins BID comes from </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and certain people have to use dollars out of necessity </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">those guys do massive size </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">dust-otc has quit () </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are not describing anything different between bitcoin and dollars </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you really think bitcoins value is from guys like mjr buying $20 in a forest? </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius i used btc to move small amount of cash between two coutries </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its from people who settle in it, in SIZE </td>
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<td><b>chetty</b></td>
<td class="breakup">If all the dollars in the world went poof tomorrow there would still be as many apples :) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if there are 500 million of them buying 20 </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yep </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: yes "small" </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thanks chetty </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">just because tx fees on wire transfer where much higher </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is the point </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats not enough for a 10bil market cap </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is STILL things around me </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">things i may want to buy </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if there was one bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it would be irrelevant to the number of things </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius lol, check evaluation for western union and such </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: your transfer was zero sum </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i can "map" the number of bitcoins onto any number of things </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and find a ratio </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you bought btc and sold it you didnt settle in it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats not whose providing a bid for btc lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thhat is money </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its the guys settling in it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and i broke down who is settling in btc </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't care what they do after i paid for the product i purcahsed </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">as of 2014 </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats like saying </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol after? you mean during </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113936" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113936">10:51</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the restaurant owner is just going to use his dollars to pay his accountant </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius, you with your settlement, i got btc and payed it for a coffe </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitcoin did not pay for your purchase go ask tigerdirect for a bitcoin refund </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i didn't settlem coffe shop did </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they will give you a dollar one </td>
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<td>*</td>
<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">dust-otc (~dust@unaffiliated/dust-otc) has joined #bitcoin-assets </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which could be handled by bitpay in reverse </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no it cant </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are pegging the value to the dollar </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if the exchange rate changed you are taking a loss </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113946" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113946">10:51</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i think you are mixing up a numeraire with something else </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr you are clueless pal </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">go ask for a refund se ewhat they say </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113951" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113951">10:52</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">have you heard of fx risk? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what they send you </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i twont be bitcoin lol </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it* </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius you are in US, paying to chinese company for some product </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in the middle there is a conversion to their curremcy </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: i agree the payment network(blockchain) is excellent </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0054998 = 0.385 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">now you want in refund, but exch rates changed </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: the currency doesnt change 50% in a day </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">exch rate risk is low </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1113962" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1113962">10:53</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">depends on currency and timing </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bitpay has zero exposure to bitcoin risk </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if i bought servers from china </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and the exchange rate changed i could "take a loss" </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats the pointt </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you calculate your gains and losses in bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">then hedge bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are connected to major exchanges </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and just instantly sell them </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you cant hedge bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you calculate losses in dollars </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">then hedge dollars </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Argentina might have something to say about exchange rates moving... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you dno't want fx risk to hurt you </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you hedge so you end up with what you wanted </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">theres nobody in the world dumb enough to sell insurance against it </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is why futures markets are a thing </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like when you buy a tv on sale </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and then they wn't give you full price whenyou refund it? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh really </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i do it everyday </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tell me how i can't </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius hence the derivative market, to hedge this </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">where is it? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are obviously an idiot...no one hedges using insurance </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea? with extremely overpriced options? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they use futures </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or options </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">options are insurance fool </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no they aren't </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr enough. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they give you an option </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">to buy something </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">at a certain price </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">a hedge is insurance. </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius somebody wrote this options, and somebody bought it </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">insurance automatically PAYS if an event happens </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea like an option lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you miss the key word </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">OPTION </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr shutup dude </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i have the right BUT NOT THE OBLIGATION </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">go ask tigerdirect for a btc refund </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you are an idiot </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you paid them in btc </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so you might say stock options are insurances, fine </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and barely understand how our current system works </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they will tell you to fuck off. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you don't even know the difference between insurance and an option </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: nobody is stupid enough to hedge bitcoin with 50% price swings daily youll go broke. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what if... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i could show you a place that will do it right now </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: why wont tigerdirect refund you in btc </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they don't want to? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr: lol mirceas option bot? </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius lol, previously you claimed mpex has high margins, now deduce why... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is a pretty easy question </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">djcoin_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the option is expensive </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Fucking people </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so hedging is expensive </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: mpex can go broke. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but it exists </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and you obviously can do it </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Going on and on and on about the "MtGox PDF" </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">unless you are too retarded to figure it out like cerelenius </td>
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<td><b>MisterE</b></td>
<td class="breakup">KRS-One: not going down like expected </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">here is a scenario </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr right so if a retailer hedges and its super expensive </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they lose money lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">all their profit margin vanishes </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">your point is... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or they need a high btc price </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">for their item </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">view-source:https://www.mtgox.com/ </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">meaning it cant compete </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which means that is just the price of bitcoins vs dollars </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ugh </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr you are clueless pal </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">try again </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">guys </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">view source on https://www.mtgox.com </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup"><!-- put announce for mtgox acq here --> </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i've done it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">everyone smart knows it doesnt matter who "adopts" bitpay and coinbase, it means zero for the price </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114056" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114056">10:57</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if acq = acquisiton ... </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114057" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114057">10:57</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are just serving blank page </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114058" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114058">10:57</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.00530002 = 0.4399 BTC [-] {4} </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114059" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114059">10:57</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">whats important is those who settle in bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yup, this line is new </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114061" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114061">10:57</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_, not anymore </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114062" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114062">10:57</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's blank in appearance bur source has changed </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114063" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114063">10:58</a>]</span></td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">libbelol has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i saw it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">https://bitcoinbuilder.com/ </td>
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<td><b>Duffer1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">acq = acquire? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well they are implying a 9-10% chance of recovery </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114069" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114069">10:58</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius mpex CAN probably go broke, but not because what you;re thinking </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: well no he never will hes smarter then that, hell just cancel trades </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Duffer1, acquisition seems plausible </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and blame an error </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea is too clever to EVER go broke </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ugh </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">basically default, ok, but it's unrelated to options as a mechanism </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sorry i am going to ignore cerelenius now </td>
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<td><b>Duffer1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">unforseen circumstance befalls us all </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i just can't deal with the stupidity any longer </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: if mpex sold a put option big enough even a decline like today would clean them out </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if someone excercised it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hed be defaulting </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">while i look for the ignore command </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is probably why you don't write options that big </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and why you'd never program a bot to do so </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and why you raise money in bonds to cover your trading </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">don't know though, he could have chosen those things at random </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yea "bonds" </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what mpex does is collect nickles infront of an oncoming train </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">do you remember how much the losses were last april? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">by selling options </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">um... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup"> </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no i wasnt here </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but if you sell options on both sides of the train? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so you stay delta neutral? </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">PROFIT!!! </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114097" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114097">11:02</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.058302 = 0.1166 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00088222 = 1.0587 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11967988 = 0.4787 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in case you don't know </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">anyone can create options </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like i said mircea is to clever to actually bust out </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he absorbed losses that were pretty huge </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">last april </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you ever see evidence of it? </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_ well, in reality market maker might be not delate neutral </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0583 = 0.1749 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">infact as he ever used the blockchain to provide evidence of anything? or is it all self issued statements </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well everyone got paid </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: true </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is the goal though </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but that is why the derivs market can be trillions while the actual assets are not that big </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because the vast majority offset </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-april-2013-statement/ cerelenius, you can check the addresses there </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">MPOE, April 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so typically mpex bot will probaby not try go either direction, but rather move the price so it maintains a baance </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov those are bondholder adress's </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">which is what we were talking about </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">bond holders getting paid and taking losses </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im talking about payouts to whoever cleaned him for those 20k </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">nah, he didn't do it, and they just accepted it quietly </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">er -2k </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius unless he is dead we'd probably hear from him </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no fuss at all </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but maybe he DID steal 2k coins </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and no one just thought it was worth bringing jup </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats the irony of mpex, huge btc advocate, zero useage of the blockchain to verify any of his claims </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah he addressed that too </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i mean thats what its there for </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you, you know, read anything </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you'd know all this </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we can hopefully bring you up to speed with enough links i guess </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr you need to bring yourself up to speed lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or you can just read trilema </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yourself </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im not concerned with mircea, as i said hes clever </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you however arent </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah, you were the one who asked if he actually paid out </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not us </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">thats why we answered you? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and nobody produced any evidence of it </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you said it was kept quiet </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">awesome proof lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what i meant was "i'm not worried about mircea" </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">did mircea pay out </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">those statements are not internally consistent </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr one day your going to wake up broke and hungry, wondering what happened </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cerelenius, if mp did not pay we'd probably hear about it </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you would imagine </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what if no one complained about gox </td>
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<td><b>Duffer1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you could just ask him to sign from the cold wallet </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dignork: thats my point, you cant even verify if the losses are legit. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">why, the whole problem would just go away </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">um...we know the prices </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea can decide if bondholders lose or win </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and the options </td>
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<td><b>dub</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yall niggers gettin trolled </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">as he pleases </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol tell me about it du </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">dub </td>
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<td><b>dub</b></td>
<td class="breakup">tiberius up in dis </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">is it him again? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it sounded like him </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">im koin3d </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup"><disagree> you are poor/young/stupid </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i come in here once awhile to troll mircea </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup"><evidence of you being wrong> well...i guess thats true <switch to subject x++> </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">just like tiberius </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114180" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114180">11:11</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how do you ignore with webchat? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">please </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">done. </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so about the whole gox thing </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that is pretty intersting </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">couple interesting theories </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_, apparently there is an acquisition going on now... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are making it seem worse than it is, so they can bounce back upon releasing "good" news </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i was involved with a few people trying to make that happen </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but that was before today </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i mean 100,000 verified accounts is worth something </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we were reaching out to them, with some people who i won't name </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but who had some contacts </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hum, interesting </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they declined your offer ? </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but i don't know anything about it </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we hadn't gotten that far </td>
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<td><b>dignork</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_, gox verified accounts are usefull, but not for gox itself </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yes </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">exactly </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this is a classic case of bad management </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if they were public they would have been taken over long ago </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">since there is a ton of unexploited value </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1818 @ 0.00549983 = 9.9987 BTC [+] {8} </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i mean, i never thought their shortfall would be a 3/4 of a billion bitcoins though </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i mean of a billion dollars </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or whatever the number is </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but, another theory is that they were hacked and held for ransom </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00088336 = 23.2324 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>Monarch03</b></td>
<td class="breakup">guys, can I somehow filter messages from @assbot only for HAVELOCK NEOBEE trades? I dont want to see anything else on bitcoin-assets-trades </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that would be a good explanation for the code appearing in their empty html page </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i mean... </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">no one can be stupid enough to actually leave your server on and then put that into the production source code </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so it is intentional by someone </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">one could assume that it was meant to move the bitcoin price... </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mjr_: did you meet them under the buttonwood tree? </td>
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<td><b>cerelenius</b></td>
<td class="breakup">your contacts that is </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">some people have said there is increased buying in china...so that could be the source of a hacking attack </td>
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<td><b>mjr_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we mostly talk via encrypted chat </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Monarch03: go to #HavelockInvestments </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there is almost no one talking, so it's just you and the havelock tradefeed </td>
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<td><b>Monarch03</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I am in #bitcoin-assets-trades for tradefeed, but i dont want to see trades of different stocks, only NEOBEE </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [MS] 44 @ 0.00285 = 0.1254 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00549999 = 0.3795 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00549999 = 0.176 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00459832 = 0.1609 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25522 @ 0.00088249 = 22.5229 BTC [-] {5} </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;seen vexual </td>
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<td class="breakup">vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 18 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <Vexual> its eternal </td>
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<td class="breakup">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzhY2z75GI </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">trick daddy chevy - YouTube </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 59 @ 0.00549998 = 0.3245 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.114 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 920 @ 0.0052572 = 4.8366 BTC [-] {11} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1004 @ 0.00520049 = 5.2213 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 565 @ 0.0052 = 2.938 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 203 @ 0.00514719 = 1.0449 BTC [-] {5} </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://i.imgur.com/0sjXzpT.gif </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 745 @ 0.00501653 = 3.7373 BTC [-] {8} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.005 = 0.35 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00500001 = 0.585 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 64 @ 0.0055 = 0.352 BTC </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.00500001 = 0.43 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 656 @ 0.005 = 3.28 BTC [-] {5} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 185 @ 0.00543986 = 1.0064 BTC [+] {7} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 344 @ 0.00544773 = 1.874 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00088072 = 22.3703 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 720 @ 0.00546882 = 3.9376 BTC [+] {7} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00549998 = 0.1705 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>Neil</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Has Gox actually said anything yet? Or is it all just 3rd parties talking? </td>
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<td><b>Neil</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I guess you can't say much when you fled Japan over the weekend. </td>
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<td><b>Neil</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Bitcoin is fucking 24*7 entertainment, all for free. </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">MtGox hasn't said anything. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.0054997 = 0.11 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">But gox.com was recently acquired by Mark Karpeles. Blank page on mtgox.com shows this source code: </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup"><!-- put announce for mtgox acq here --> </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">That's the only thing official. </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">That you can see for yourself. </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">The rest is all speculation and etc. </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">That pretty much sums it up. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0054997 = 0.44 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>Neil</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Fact: colleague at work had 1m JPY on MtGox, was paid to his bank account this morning </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00549978 = 0.4125 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like they wanted to get rid of JPYs to avoid domestic litigation </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but... what do we know </td>
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<td><b>Namworld</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yeah =/ </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28150 @ 0.00088777 = 24.9907 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 890 @ 0.00086966 = 0.774 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1680 @ 0.00086994 = 1.4615 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 800 @ 0.00087076 = 0.6966 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4929 @ 0.00087477 = 4.3117 BTC [+] {6} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3282 @ 0.00088224 = 2.8955 BTC [+] {6} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.00088799 = 1.776 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00088552 = 14.9653 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 756 @ 0.000889 = 0.6721 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.10768512 = 2.6921 BTC [-] {9} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.11471414 = 2.2943 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00088346 = 9.7181 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00549995 = 0.11 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00549997 = 0.5445 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 19 @ 0.02189999 = 0.4161 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00549999 = 0.396 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00549999 = 0.297 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06149999 = 0.3075 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.114899 = 0.5745 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00549999 = 0.275 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02199999 = 0.176 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 244 @ 0.000889 = 0.2169 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02199999 = 0.22 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 751 @ 0.000889 = 0.6676 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00549999 = 0.11 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.00549999 = 1.155 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00088359 = 16.479 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00549997 = 0.7535 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02199999 = 0.176 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 162 @ 0.00549995 = 0.891 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11101 @ 0.00088451 = 9.8189 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 337 @ 0.00549999 = 1.8535 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>chetty</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.eevblog.com/2014/02/24/element-14-holding-orders-based-on-us-government-watch-list/ </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List | EEVblog - The Electronics Engineering </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hm.. this gox fiasco is getting more and more interesting </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">azi`: there's some new info? </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/insolvency-Announcement.backup </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: apparently they are missing 750k coins </td>
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<td class="breakup">Access Denied </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">right, but it hints that they have some insovlency document? </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">err nevermind </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140220-Announcement.pdf this works </td>
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<td class="breakup">oh that's the old one </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">anyways they stoped trading </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i.e disabled trading </td>
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<td class="breakup">http://i.imgur.com/rPTRxiG.png </td>
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<td class="breakup">and this one is weird as well </td>
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<td class="breakup">yes i know. just wondered something happened in last 2 hours </td>
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<td class="breakup">not that i'd know </td>
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<td class="breakup">what you think is going to happen? </td>
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<td class="breakup">do you* </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">someone from gox will have enugh and leak more? karpeles will get detained or injunction issued? </td>
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<td class="breakup">Karpeles has been spotted getting breast reduction + facial surgery. Reliable sources say he has been negotiating to buy an island in international waters </td>
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<td class="breakup">probably looking to retire? </td>
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<td class="breakup">he'll be able to hide easily betwee penguins somewhere near antarctica </td>
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<td class="breakup">haha yeah forget injunctions, a world full of angry users .... </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Mallstromm do you have coins on gox? </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;ticker --market all </td>
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<td class="breakup">MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 47560.32477655 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 487.0, vol: 113337.81736716 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 486.2, vol: 65120.41363 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 485.0011, vol: 90433.68727634 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 496.61, vol: 453.76762071 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 527.459, vol: 26741.78700000 | Volume-weighted last average: 440.76722333 </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">MagicalTux has used the Gox Bitcoin to secure himself passage to the moom </td>
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<td class="breakup">Moom being like the Moon except actually made out of cheese. </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cazalla: do i look like a fucking retard? </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">assumed you were due to ad hom </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">of course I don't have coins of Gox. Only a retard or a poor clueless noob would have at this time </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">only people who are making those seem to have coins there </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0054999 = 0.209 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cazalla: I'm just having fun. I left gox for good in August after I requested a SEPA withdrawal of just 30k EUR and after 6 weeks I didn't receive it </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sounds like you escaped just in time </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there's only a reason for that in my book: fractional reserve. I work with banks and I know by hear that there are no "banking limits" </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you have the money, you can move it - full stop </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00549999 = 0.242 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that's why i don't feel any sympathy for those affected by this </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you need people to wait 6 weeks before paying them... Is because you have cash-flow problems and you need to cash in before cashing out </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">that for an exchange just screams insolvency </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i really hope they did get ganked for 750k coins </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18101 @ 0.00088451 = 16.0105 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.05966402 = 0.2983 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.106 = 0.53 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.16230094 = 0.8115 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cazalla: I do believe that there is a small amount of noobs/newcomers who probably just wired money to Gox because it was the best known exchange. I would have researched in forums, etc. as I did when I bought my first coins in 2012 </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if they didn't lose it to gox, they would've lost it to some penny stock anyway </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but I can understand some noob would just send them the money. But people that has been around for months? How come they have been caught with their pants down? </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 892 @ 0.00549999 = 4.906 BTC [+] {5} </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Having funds on gox was like playing russian roulette. The risk was huge, and what was the reward? </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i dunno, surely a noob would do research </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">for some ppl i know its like hazard </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">can't resist </td>
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<td><b>the20year1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the idea that maybe, just maybe they would let you wire USD or some other currency </td>
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<td><b>the20year1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i asked those questions 6 months ago and every sign was leading to gox insolvency </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">of course. hundreds of red flags </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.05831239 = 0.2916 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ha, finally. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.106 = 0.53 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.16230094 = 0.8115 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00088451 = 17.9556 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>the20year1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">But for some reason daytrading on gox was important </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I meant, I was a VERY happy Gox customer. I've bought hundreds of coins on there, sub $10. I have wonderful memories of Gox </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but as soon as the red flags are raised... Its just stupid to risk your hard earned money. </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">me not </td>
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<td><b>the20year1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and in the past year? </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">my very first sepa deposit took over 2 weeks </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and that was 2 years ago </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">never again </td>
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<td><b>the20year1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">when a company takes 3 months to process a withdraw, something is wrong </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: fuck. I've done at least a dozen deposits to Gox, a couple of them 6 figures of EUR -> and they arrived within one week </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00569229 = 1.7077 BTC [+] {5} </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: seame thing about withdrawals, I had "trusted" status and everything went smooth (and by smooth I mean deposits that arrived to my bank in 2 days) until they weren't </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">also successfully used cryptoxchange, tradehill, intersango...now all gone </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what I can tell you is that as soon as I had a +6 weeks delayed withdrawal I left for good. I didn't give them a second chance. There's really no point in risking your hard earned money when the insolvency signals are so strong </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: well, daytrading is risky business indeed. I only daytraded during my "accumulation" phase. Now 90% my funds are in deep cold storage and 0% of them are on third-party services.- </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">many people do need that thrill </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I just send the coins to the exchange when I reach my profit-taking targets - to sell them for good and to withdraw the fiat immediately </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i don't get it though, it doesn't take an intelligent person to figure out this was going to happen sooner or later minus specific details </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cazalla, when did bitcoin users = intelligence? </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">or, when I want to buy: just today I wired quite an amount to both Bitstamp and Kraken. I'm betting on a shitstorm happening in the media, noobs panic selling and thus I'm ready to buy all the sub-$500 coins I can </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">we tried to talk a friend out of it, he sent fiat to gox anyway 2 weeks ago anyway </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it was irresistible for some </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but as soon as I buy the coins I'll transfer directly to cold storage. Daytrading is really not worth it IMO </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i would bet the average bitcoiner is more intelligent than the average joe </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">afaik, this chan has told people about the fractional reserve system repeatedly. </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cazalla i would bet againt </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">in the bitcointalk forums too </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: TheKoziTwo has wired $100k to Gox just two days ago </td>
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<td><b>chetty</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Did you see Voorhees admit he got caught with 500+ on gox? </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">jurov: in regards to using a computer i should add </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">chetty: probably 500 coins are nothing to Erik. He got paid hundred of thousands for SD </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">chump change for him </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I mean... I also have like 0.0004 (or something like that) left on Gox. Probably 500 coins feels the same to Erik :D </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cazalla computer ability has no relation to risk profile </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">are they really going to try this rebranding bullshit? </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">deadweasel: people will line up to use it, that's the sad thing </td>
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<td><b>Mallstromm</b></td>
<td class="breakup">deadweasel: don't underestimate the general level of retardness </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">even if the leaked plan is fake, it portraits their mindset accurately </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they must "save" the bitcoin image at all costs </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because they are bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they need to commit hara kiri </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">for btc </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i guess the new investors assume that whatever amount of goodwill is left in the brand is valued at more than what they are paying </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">700k is very hefty amount of goodwill </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">maybe they won't take the debts on </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10076 @ 0.00088628 = 8.9302 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">karpeles goes out the back door, new outfit in through the front, relaunch on gox.com and play the typical we are not taking on debts and only bought the assets line </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like tradehill? i can see them trying, but dunno </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">heh thill is down </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">maybe they'll do a bitinstant - we'll be back any moment </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00088451 = 14.5944 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh they were already doing it </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">glad i took the gox out of business 2014 bet now </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i took the litecoin one </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">n1 </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17924 @ 0.00088628 = 15.8857 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i am somehow fascinated that they still keep support on irc </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">answering patiently to querries </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">even karp appears to be on the chan </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like, what do they say? </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the last time i spoke they said they are fixing it but have no ETA </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">even karp is not really idle on irc </td>
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<td><b>azi`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i would assume they'd had to run at this point already? </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">azi`: they are coming around again for another con. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.0056 = 0.14 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">al this is giving me dejavu's about </td>
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<td class="breakup">full tilt poker when it went down </td>
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<td class="breakup">identic story </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00574899 = 0.2874 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.00574899 = 0.138 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00575 = 0.9775 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.11588043 = 1.5064 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 105 @ 0.0055 = 0.5775 BTC </td>
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<td class="breakup">never liked fulltilt </td>
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<td class="breakup">why play anywhere else but stars </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 223 @ 0.00579 = 1.2912 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 23 @ 0.00579 = 0.1332 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 178 @ 0.00579 = 1.0306 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">why gamble? </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it wasn't back in the day </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">average player is much better now so it really isn't +EV </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00579 = 0.579 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00579 = 0.1448 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3762 @ 0.00088704 = 3.337 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00579 = 0.5211 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00578 = 0.4046 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00578 = 0.2601 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 246 @ 0.00577953 = 1.4218 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00449998 = 0.36 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Oh, looks like Russia is taking back Crimea </td>
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<td><b>the20year1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ukraine? </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Yeah </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Also http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/25/0359246/nsa-and-ghcq-employing-shills-to-poison-web-forum-discourse </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00577 = 0.577 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.00577 = 0.6578 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.005788 = 0.3994 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.16230094 = 1.623 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.005788 = 1.0476 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 978 @ 0.00578852 = 5.6612 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/02/british-spy-agency.html </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1107 @ 0.0008453 = 0.9357 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.00579 = 1.4128 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17145 @ 0.00088428 = 15.161 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00018944 = 0.4736 BTC [+] {7} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.00571787 = 1.075 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.005785 = 0.162 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.06149977 = 0.5535 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 89 @ 0.00578981 = 0.5153 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00555666 = 0.4834 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 23 @ 0.00578999 = 0.1332 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00088562 = 21.7863 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00088708 = 18.6287 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00578998 = 0.6774 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.0057899 = 0.3879 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49799998 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.0057899 = 0.1158 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">libbe is now known as libbelol </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mt-gox-ceo-karpeles-says-143955611.html </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Mt Gox CEO Karpeles says bitcoin exchange is at "turning point" - Yahoo Finance </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">looking like the doc is real </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 19 @ 0.00551579 = 0.1048 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">how can you turn when you've smashed into the pavement after a freefall? </td>
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<td><b>ColdHardMetal</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the dead Karpeles bounce. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00578405 = 2.892 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">when you have a fitness ball to land on, all is good! </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00088353 = 2.2972 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">but nobody actually saw anyone fell :D </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://i.imgur.com/T2RudcB.gif </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mybe golden parachutes were involved </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">this gif will stand the test of time </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">you have seen the gox truck? </td>
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<td class="breakup">yeah </td>
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<td class="breakup">loved it </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">seems like now would also be a good time for a new zhou tong jam </td>
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<td class="breakup">https://btc-e.com/news/199 </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">loading </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">even russian mob wagging finger at goc </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">x </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">gocks </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18013 @ 0.00088346 = 15.9138 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>usaoscoin</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mount cocks: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/25/bitcoin-mtgox-ceo-idUSL1N0LU12G20140225 </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00088662 = 6.1177 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00578965 = 5.7897 BTC [+] {8} </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">one gox.com NS record points to buy.internettraffic.com </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">if you then search gox.com it says it's for sale </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00579989 = 1.0498 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>MCM-Mike</b></td>
<td class="breakup">did you have a look at the sourcecode , of the index page? </td>
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<td><b>MCM-Mike</b></td>
<td class="breakup"><!-- put announce for mtgox acq here --> </td>
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<td><b>Apocalyptic</b></td>
<td class="breakup">old </td>
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<td><b>MCM-Mike</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ok </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.0057999 = 0.1508 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11599997 = 0.464 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.0057999 = 0.1624 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 291 @ 0.00085481 = 0.2487 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00088326 = 6.1828 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00579 = 0.3995 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24650 @ 0.00088274 = 21.7595 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2018 @ 0.00018498 = 0.3733 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2014/02/25/secondmarket-bitcoin-exchange/ </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">SecondMarket to launch first U.S.-based Bitcoin exchange - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05830106 = 0.1166 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1085 = 0.217 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">riddled with NSA commenters </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.058301 = 0.1749 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.107 = 0.321 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 227 @ 0.00085746 = 0.1946 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.058301 = 0.1166 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1065 = 0.213 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.005799 = 0.116 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.000865 = 0.2595 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0583 = 0.1166 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0583 = 0.1166 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13102 @ 0.00088111 = 11.5443 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0583 = 0.1166 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">people are so dumb, i have 3 voicemails from a webhosting client asking for my email address, my domain for the business is literally just a logo and an email address </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 647 @ 0.0008801 = 0.5694 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">"Dear MtGox Customers, </td>
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<td class="breakup">In the event of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on MtGox's operations and the market, a decision was taken to close all transactions for the time being in order to protect the site and our users. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly. </td>
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<td class="breakup">Best regards, </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">MtGox Team" </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0583 = 0.1166 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.0057999 = 0.1276 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31998 @ 0.0008795 = 28.1422 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>Jere_Jones_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ThickAsThieves Where's that from? </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what does that even mean </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Jere_Jones_:mtgox.com </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6102 @ 0.00087836 = 5.3598 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">prolly copied verbatim from some bezzle manual </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">like previous announcements </td>
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<td><b>Jere_Jones_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">This whole thing makes no sense unless Mark decided to run and the rest of the team is trying to pick up the pieces. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.0057999 = 0.1972 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>cazalla</b></td>
<td class="breakup">too well known to run </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's a big world </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11599997 = 0.464 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">he doesn't look the type to be willing or capable to rough it out for a bit </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.11599998 = 0.812 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11688888 = 0.5844 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">btc-e is down </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00087792 = 31.9563 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">havelock too </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">gonna be a ddos-y day! </td>
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<td><b>mike_c</b></td>
<td class="breakup">love those days. bitcoincharts down yet? </td>
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<td><b>mike_c</b></td>
<td class="breakup">shockingly no. </td>
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<td><b>Jere_Jones_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Havelock is working fine from here </td>
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<td class="breakup">x-bt is fine though </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.0057999 = 0.435 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>mike_c</b></td>
<td class="breakup">knock on wood quick </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 19 @ 0.005799 = 0.1102 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">holy crap </td>
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<td class="breakup">tsla at $250 </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11749998 = 0.235 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>taub_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ahhhhhh </td>
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<td><b>taub_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lmao </td>
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<td><b>taub_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">what the fuck </td>
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<td><b>taub_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so </td>
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<td><b>taub_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mtgox is dead for real now </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11749998 = 0.235 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">https://www.mtgox.com/ </td>
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<td class="breakup">MtGox.com loading </td>
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<td class="breakup">they have put a ... useless annoucement </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">yep </td>
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<td class="breakup">again, how can a biz issue PR with no clear message </td>
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<td class="breakup">^ </td>
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<td class="breakup">but it's gox so anything is possible at this point </td>
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<td><b>taub_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">fuck'em </td>
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<td class="breakup">hope people get their money out if they still have some in it </td>
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<td><b>jayk</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mtgox probably had been cashing out coins all along til they ran out </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.005797 = 0.2029 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>jborkl_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I was on RTBTC trading when they locked it - it was exactly 8:00 on the dot my time - roughly 15 minutes later they took down the site (if you tried to trade it said trading disabled) </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.005797 = 0.3536 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">the price was getting hammered and volume was getting thin, so take what you want from that </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 285 @ 0.005797 = 1.6521 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">the price was getting knocked both ways very quickly due to the thin order book </td>
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<td class="breakup">https://btc-e.com/api/2/ltc_btc/ticker </td>
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<td class="breakup">ticker is up though </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">LTC is gonna die I think </td>
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<td class="breakup">i don't think it's got a strong enough signal in all the altcoin noise </td>
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<td><b>jborkl_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Tat, I think you are right on </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.00579747 = 0.4986 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13144999 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 179 @ 0.00579783 = 1.0378 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/02/facebook-chief-depicted-as-hook-nosed-octopus-201422514549661383.html </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Facebook chief depicted as hook-nosed octopus - Europe - Al Jazeera English </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11749997 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">neo gonna hit 6 it seems </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.00589228 = 17.6768 BTC [+] {10} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0058 = 0.174 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 428 @ 0.00589955 = 2.525 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0059001 = 0.177 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.00596134 = 17.884 BTC [+] {9} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11749997 = 0.3525 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.1175 = 2.585 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00465 = 0.186 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.06149998 = 0.615 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00464745 = 0.2091 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0615 = 0.615 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">http://imgur.com/g1kk0Gi </td>
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<td class="breakup">imgur: the simple image sharer </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.06195454 = 0.6815 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">why a screenshot? </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0615 = 0.1845 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.10600001 = 0.318 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0615 = 0.246 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.106 = 0.424 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114795" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114795">18:26</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0615 = 0.123 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00597899 = 0.1794 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06125001 = 0.1225 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.106 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>mike_c</b></td>
<td class="breakup">!t h rent </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (2771 shares, 15.24050000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (6234 shares, 34.28700000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (39460 shares, 217.03000000 BTC) </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.005979 = 0.1853 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46510003 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.0058012 = 0.6439 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.106 = 1.272 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">KRS-One: is this personalized? i don't even see a picture.. only text links somewhere inbetween.. "More woe for Bitcoin exchange Mt.Gox" + "U.S.-based Bitcoin exchange coming" </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">there are already 3 us exchanges </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">campbx, coinbase, and coinlab </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the 3 c's </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.06125 = 0.3675 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.106 = 0.636 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">coinlab? they are still promoting the mining failure on their website </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.16230094 = 0.9738 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">coinlab isn't an exchange </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">neither is coinbase strictly speaking </td>
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<td><b>Duffer1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">campbx is still alive? </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Duffer1: looks like it's surviving, sort of </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i thought campbx got banxed </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not sure here </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34749 @ 0.00087769 = 30.4988 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06249548 = 0.125 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they report 500 BTC volume on bcharts </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00580118 = 0.116 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00088173 = 16.0916 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0058012 = 0.174 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06249548 = 0.125 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">speaking of us bitcoin business. i'm somehow impressed about circle. came out of nothing, did nothing till now, but allaire participated as witness at the senate hearing, they joined the circle against gox etc.. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.0053252 = 0.1331 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and today again on bloomberg: http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2014-02-25/can-mt-dot-gox-failure-be-a-positive-for-bitcoin </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00580119 = 0.3655 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>pigeons</b></td>
<td class="breakup">why is circle doing nothing impressive? </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00580119 = 0.2495 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.061252 = 0.1838 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">because they don't skateboard </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.1065 = 0.5325 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>pigeons</b></td>
<td class="breakup">use a skate go to prison </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">!ticker B.EXCH </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. </td>
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<td><b>Jere_Jones_</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">!ticker h B.EXCH </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK:B.EXCH] 1D: 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 (212 shares, 34.40779928 BTC), 7D: 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 (678 shares, 110.04003732 BTC), 30D: 0.02010015 / 0.19616302 / 0.24310363 (2798 shares, 548.86413075 BTC) </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">sorry assbot :P </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06125 = 0.1838 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">such low volume </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">!ticker h B.MINE </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK:B.MINE] 1D: 0.05700000 / 0.06012384 / 0.06249548 (393 shares, 23.62866718 BTC), 7D: 0.05700000 / 0.0617085 / 0.06849999 (1174 shares, 72.44577658 BTC), 30D: 0.05610001 / 0.08000289 / 0.44000000 (3256 shares, 260.48939362 BTC) </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">!ticker h B.SELL </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK:B.SELL] 1D: 0.10101010 / 0.10790614 / 0.11489900 (156 shares, 16.83335801 BTC), 7D: 0.08500000 / 0.10273955 / 0.11489900 (358 shares, 36.78075930 BTC), 30D: 0.06000001 / 0.11423134 / 0.14990000 (1939 shares, 221.49456512 BTC) </td>
<td><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">[<a id="1114861" href="http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-25-feb-2014#1114861">18:46</a>]</span></td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06125 = 0.1838 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.0008822 = 12.7037 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">pigeons: are you saying all skaters and rappers are delinquents and should be locked up? </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00580119 = 0.4467 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Wu-Tang has better financial services than Gox :P </td>
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<td><b>pigeons</b></td>
<td class="breakup">not should. its a saying from the 80s </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 206 @ 0.00580119 = 1.195 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh I'm too young to get the reference then </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i didn't know about the beastie boys until 2002 </td>
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<td><b>pigeons</b></td>
<td class="breakup">:) </td>
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<td><b>pigeons</b></td>
<td class="breakup">its an exaggeration on the supposed oppression of skateboarding </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06125 = 0.1838 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 69 @ 0.16230094 = 11.1988 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>gx</b></td>
<td class="breakup">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3imSKAvgmY </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">A brief history of the DOW jones - YouTube </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://rt.com/usa/georgia-confederate-license-plate-787/ </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">“We believe that everyone has the right to preserve their heritage” </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">oh ThickAsThieves my friend started a Bitcoin business in Tifton </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lolol </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">as an experiment to see if he can educate the local populace </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he'll regret it </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">educating the populace is a thankless, stress-inducing task </td>
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<td><b>chetty</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.americanbanker.com/magazine/124_02/why-bitcoin-matters-for-bankers-1065590-1.html </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Why Bitcoin Matters for Bankers - American Banker Magazine Article </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">I would liek this on my plates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">"but it was once nearly as important a port as Savannah[according to whom?]" </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hehe </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06125 = 0.1838 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.30274502 BTC to 2`866 shares, 80347 satoshi per share </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.sfweekly.com/2014-02-19/news/evolution-of-protest-google-tech-bus-apple/full/ </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">The Evolution of Protest: The Bay Area Has Been Shaped by Dissent, But No One Can Stand in the Way o </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00088119 = 11.2792 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06125 = 0.1225 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 18 @ 0.106 = 1.908 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.06249513 = 0.375 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 636 @ 0.0058008 = 3.6893 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 21 @ 0.00580118 = 0.1218 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0610002 = 0.244 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.106 = 0.424 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 234 @ 0.00580119 = 1.3575 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.05997501 = 4.0783 BTC [-] {9} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.16230094 = 0.9738 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.0058012 = 0.3075 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1175 = 0.47 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 14 @ 0.16230094 = 2.2722 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1017 @ 0.00597995 = 6.0816 BTC [+] {6} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 515 @ 0.00597998 = 3.0797 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00597989 = 0.897 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11984 @ 0.00088265 = 10.5777 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.11478468 = 0.8035 BTC [+] {4} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 762 @ 0.00597994 = 4.5567 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 457 @ 0.00597989 = 2.7328 BTC [-] {5} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.0582 = 0.9894 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.10896699 = 0.3269 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0582 = 0.2328 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.1060075 = 0.424 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">v0v </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1963 @ 0.00088397 = 1.7352 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00597989 = 0.3767 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.16230094 = 0.8115 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 18 @ 0.16230094 = 2.9214 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0582 = 0.1746 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00598 = 0.3468 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>moiety</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mew? </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hi </td>
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<td class="breakup">nubbins`: i think they have died from laughing at gox </td>
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<td class="breakup">people knew it was a bad idea but they put their coins there anyway </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;seen mike_c </td>
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<td class="breakup">mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 12 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <mike_c> !t h rent </td>
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<td><b>mike_c</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hey </td>
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<td><b>moiety</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hi mike </td>
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<td><b>mike_c</b></td>
<td class="breakup">hello! </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">heyo </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mike_c, lurk in #eulora </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00598 = 0.5023 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[14:13:29] <nubbins`> down to only two errors when executing jam on osx, related to duplicate symbols in libfparser </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[14:14:05] <nubbins`> had some issues with the Breakpad stuff so ended up commenting it all out for now </td>
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<td class="breakup">2 errors! of course, the last two are always the worst. </td>
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<td class="breakup">nod </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.00598 = 0.4664 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 147 @ 0.00598 = 0.8791 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 850 @ 0.00598 = 5.083 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ah fuck, hot water heater is busted </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00598 = 0.1316 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49377998 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.1175 = 4.8175 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00582646 = 0.1457 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.13099999 = 0.393 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 320 @ 0.00088509 = 0.2832 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00597999 = 0.1914 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00088119 = 6.1243 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.1175 = 2.115 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">is the world less insane today, boys? </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;seen nubbins` </td>
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<td class="breakup">nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 minutes and 48 seconds ago: <nubbins`> ah fuck, hot water heater is busted </td>
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<td><b>nubbins`</b></td>
<td class="breakup">NO ;( </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 167 @ 0.00598 = 0.9987 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup"><span style="color:#d3d3d3;">moiety coughs and looks at benkay </td>
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<td class="breakup">lo moiety </td>
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<td class="breakup">lo - a wild moiety! </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;seen MtGox </td>
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<td class="breakup">I have not seen MtGox. </td>
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<td class="breakup">:) lol and nope the world is not less crazy today benkay! </td>
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<td class="breakup">;;ticker --market all </td>
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<td class="breakup">lolol BingoBoingo </td>
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<td class="breakup">MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 36552.87216276 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 508.0, vol: 114074.61626242 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 512.687, vol: 72239.04597 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 509.24, vol: 99344.6243518 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 540.01, vol: 504.57606884 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 530.269393, vol: 27708.25900000 | Volume-weighted last average: 472.216913778 </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00581117 = 0.5811 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td class="breakup">gox is dead, correct? dead dead? </td>
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<td class="breakup">benkay: Indeed </td>
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<td class="breakup">no, no, it's a "turning point" :P </td>
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<td class="breakup">Proposal, since Gox last will now always be 135, Instead of Quoting BTC/USD in terms of dollars, it should hence forth be quoted as a percentage of Gox last. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49377998 = 0.9876 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.06250047 = 0.125 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">MagicalTux has gone to the Moon where he hides in exile with the Doge creators, Trendon Shavers, and Usagi </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10600001 = 0.212 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088509 = 0.177 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">they have even taken the office plants i hear </td>
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<td class="breakup">http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/four-days-in-and-still-no-patch-for-os-x-critical-goto-fail-bug/ </td>
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<td><b>pankkake</b></td>
<td class="breakup">apple left the "get your phone rooted by a pdf" bug open for a month, so, nothing new </td>
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<td class="breakup">also, the java flaw, for months </td>
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<td class="breakup">Sure. </td>
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<td class="breakup">hey what's a better channel than #math to talk about quantitative stuff? </td>
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<td class="breakup">I have a question about the basic black scholes model </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 165 @ 0.00580119 = 0.9572 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">I'm looking at the definition of geometric brownian motion as the sum of a normal brownian motion and a drift function, and I'm having a hard time believing it actually lets us model real world stocks. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC </td>
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<td class="breakup">but one of the basic assumptions of the black scholes options valuation model is that the stocks are geometric brownian motions. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00597895 = 0.2392 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">http://i.imgur.com/2b8Fec3.jpg </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00597895 = 0.2511 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">so I guess this leads to efforts to quantify and estimate the actual brownian "volatility" in a given stock, given past observations. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00597896 = 0.2212 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">What gets me is that the other assumptions, like no arbitrage or market friction. seem reasonable and we might expect to weaken the assumptions later. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 163 @ 0.00597895 = 0.9746 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">but when it comes to what actually creates the knowledge of the history, we have a brownian motion. </td>
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<td class="breakup">cads ##econometrics </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1571 @ 0.00017226 = 0.2706 BTC [-] {11} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 59 @ 0.00597896 = 0.3528 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00597897 = 0.1495 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00465 = 0.186 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02199999 = 0.11 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 265 @ 0.00597895 = 1.5844 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/25/5446534/apple-patches-ssl-security-vulnerability-osx </td>
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<td class="breakup">Apple issues fix for major security flaw on OS X | The Verge </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 112 @ 0.00597899 = 0.6696 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">lovely </td>
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<td class="breakup">wonder will they fix their implementation of clang next ;p </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1884 @ 0.00018548 = 0.3494 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47000211 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47000201 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.13099999 = 0.655 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00597898 = 0.1196 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 618 @ 0.00088509 = 0.547 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00464745 = 0.3207 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>twizt</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>twizt</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://imgur.com/xMeW43a </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">The Incompetence of MT GOX-How it all began - Imgur </td>
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<td><b>Duffer1</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so security very wow </td>
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<td><b>twizt</b></td>
<td class="breakup">i dunno y people advocate for web apps </td>
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<td><b>TomServo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Isn't that Jed? </td>
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<td><b>davout</b></td>
<td class="breakup">just ftr that was jed, not karpy </td>
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<td class="breakup">the most unsecure crap ever </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00597897 = 0.3049 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05935 = 0.1187 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10600001 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.00597897 = 0.6577 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.058405 = 0.3504 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.106 = 0.636 BTC [-] {4} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>benkay</b></td>
<td class="breakup">mircea_popescu coinpunk.org and coinpunk.com are indeed same folks </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00585737 = 0.5857 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0575 = 0.115 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.106 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.106 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.0058 = 0.725 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2841 @ 0.00088008 = 2.5003 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>Urushiol</b></td>
<td class="breakup">people putting funds in securities for the expected decline? </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00591416 = 0.7097 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0057353 = 1.1471 BTC [-] {12} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00591899 = 0.3551 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">https://www.facebook.com/goxbitcoin </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 17 @ 0.00591901 = 0.1006 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.057 = 0.171 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.106 = 0.318 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00591901 = 0.4558 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8860 @ 0.00088029 = 7.7994 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 18 @ 0.00597897 = 0.1076 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00088129 = 15.026 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 223 @ 0.00591903 = 1.3199 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.1175 = 2.82 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.cnbc.com/id/101444108 </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Mt.Gox: Decision was made to close transactions for the time being </td>
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<td class="breakup">Lawsky says gox closing is a good thing, etc </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and the situation will be very closely monitored, don't forget! </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 407 @ 0.00591903 = 2.409 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>jurov</b></td>
<td class="breakup">rest assured :) </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 490 @ 0.00591925 = 2.9004 BTC [+] {3} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00591391 = 0.2425 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 24 @ 0.0055 = 0.132 BTC </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.0008814 = 17.0551 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 480 @ 0.00571002 = 2.7408 BTC [-] {3} </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;google site: trileme mtgox fractional reserve </td>
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<td class="breakup">No matches found. </td>
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<td><b>thestringpuller</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;google site: trilema.com mtgox fractional reserve </td>
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<td class="breakup">Grave concerns re MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/grave-concerns-re-mtgox/>; GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/gpg-contracts>; Full Hacker News: <http://www.fullhn.com/> </td>
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<td class="breakup">"Mircea you are one -huge- faggot" </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.1175 = 0.235 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.27bslash6.com/foggot.html </td>
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<td class="breakup">"I have read your website and it is obviously that your a foggot." </td>
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<td><b>benkay</b></td>
<td class="breakup">"yes you will" "no i won't fag" </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">he's a foghat? </td>
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<td><b>deadweasel</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcCNcgoyG_0 </td>
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<td class="breakup">Slow Ride- Foghat (Full Version) - YouTube </td>
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<td class="breakup">so, a compliment? </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00597883 = 0.1315 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6340 @ 0.00087997 = 5.579 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 174 @ 0.00597887 = 1.0403 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00597895 = 0.4484 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">.Why, if it isn't my old friend, Mr. McGreg. With a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg.. </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00597897 = 0.8251 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.11749131 = 0.8224 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.00597899 = 1.3692 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00597898 = 0.2989 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>mike_c</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;later tell nubbins` ping me for eulorum nameservers </td>
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<td class="breakup">The operation succeeded. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00597899 = 1.4947 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 46 @ 0.0055 = 0.253 BTC </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00597897 = 0.5919 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 240 @ 0.00464756 = 1.1154 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00088076 = 31.6193 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>dub</b></td>
<td class="breakup">real world gox news feedback thus far "so this is a good time to get in right? </td>
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<td><b>Diablo-D3</b></td>
<td class="breakup">pretty much. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 214 @ 0.00597897 = 1.2795 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Derps gonna Derp </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majority-media/chairman-carpers-statement-on-insolvency-of-major-bitcoin-exchange </td>
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<td><b>twizt</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol </td>
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<td><b>twizt</b></td>
<td class="breakup">and the banking system is any better </td>
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<td><b>twizt</b></td>
<td class="breakup">they are just pissed they couldnt use tax payer funds to bailout gox lol </td>
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<td><b>TomServo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">It's a steamboat not a rowboat </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00597896 = 0.1973 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>mike_c</b></td>
<td class="breakup">regulation is always effective at keeping unsuspecting "consumers" safe in financial markets. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05999998 = 0.12 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 240 @ 0.00597894 = 1.4349 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.00597895 = 0.556 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00597894 = 0.2451 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>benkay</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the best way to keep people who shouldn't be playing with dangerous financial instruments from doing so is to just disallow them from it. this is the MPEx model. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06 = 0.3 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.00597715 = 0.7232 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00597799 = 0.3945 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.0059 = 0.118 BTC [-] {2} </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.1175 = 1.7625 BTC [+] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0059 = 0.236 BTC [-] </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0059 = 0.295 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">benkay oh i c. </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00088169 = 31.1237 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">MtGox has barely moved S.MPOE I guess it was much less important than either OpenBSD Charlie Shrem's bong </td>
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<td><b>benkay</b></td>
<td class="breakup">heh i got that from you, mircea_popescu </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;ticker </td>
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<td><b>gribble</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 523.68, Best ask: 524.7, Bid-ask spread: 1.02000, Last trade: 523.68, 24 hour volume: 112246.41622198, 24 hour low: 400.0, 24 hour high: 552.06, 24 hour vwap: 480.668707869 </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">;;ticker --market all </td>
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<td class="breakup">MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 31617.24142445 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 523.68, vol: 112246.41622198 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 516.001, vol: 71134.23069 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 523.4, vol: 93598.92141544 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 530.01, vol: 431.92813782 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 540.524633, vol: 27601.08600000 | Volume-weighted last average: 486.862785055 </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">lol 135 </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.005898 = 0.118 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">so how's the turing point coming along </td>
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<td><b>dexX7</b></td>
<td class="breakup">it's frozen for more than 12 or so hours </td>
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<td class="breakup">Goxlast is going to be 135 forever it seems. Prolly prudent to quote USD/BTC as a percent of Gox last nao. </td>
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<td class="breakup">i guess it's time for teh halting problem </td>
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<td class="breakup">so at what point does the bot start quoting? </td>
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<td class="breakup">gox is dead what now? options plz </td>
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<td class="breakup">cads prolly this is better than #math </td>
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<td class="breakup">and geometric brownian motion is a rather general case of stochastic process. it fits a bunch of natural phenomena. </td>
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<td class="breakup">Woe unto the poor bastard who sold those Puts to the bot. </td>
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<td class="breakup"><BingoBoingo> http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majority-media/chairman-carpers-statement-on-insolvency-of-major-bitcoin-exchange <<< now i just want gox to come back and say ha! we're solvent idjits </td>
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<td class="breakup">I guess I should look into empirical studies to see how applicable it should be considered for options </td>
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<td class="breakup">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6617 @ 0.00088108 = 5.8301 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">"we're solute" </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">ThickAsThieves: Nah, I just want some IT drone to throw him some Trilema showing that Bitcoin regulated Gox out of existence using only death by exile as a regulatory tool </td>
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<td class="breakup">cads you can make your own empirical study. pick a stock. </td>
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<td class="breakup">yeah I should </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">" Today, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Tom Carper (D-Del.) release the following statement" </td>
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<td class="breakup">i guess no further need for grammar </td>
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<td class="breakup">for your protection, obama govt abolishes the s on verbs. </td>
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<td class="breakup">make english more accessible to poor black kids. </td>
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<td class="breakup">I believe that's, "release dat following statement"* </td>
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<td><b>BingoBoingo</b></td>
<td class="breakup">cads: It is da rather than dat </td>
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<td><b>Mats_cd03</b></td>
<td class="breakup">race hatin mafaka </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">followin but yeah. </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">well the gov is in a perpetual state of release </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00588 = 0.441 BTC [-] </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">anyway teh cheek on this asshat. </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">wording intentional </td>
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<td class="breakup">think poor black kids care to use English properly? Hell no honky. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">delusions of grandeur, "steering" my foot. </td>
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<td><b>KRS-One</b></td>
<td class="breakup">.bait </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://24.media.tumblr.com/dff0b7fe0c41bbf5b7fdf3d238cd2caa/tumblr_msgtkvTI6d1rlo3vko1_400.jpg </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">also missing hyphen on ill-equipped </td>
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<td><b>ThickAsThieves</b></td>
<td class="breakup">the art of the hyphen is so lost </td>
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<td><b>assbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.1175 = 0.3525 BTC [+] </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">anyway, let's compare and contrast for the permanent record : </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majority-media/chairman-carpers-statement-on-insolvency-of-major-bitcoin-exchange </td>
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<td class="breakup">“My staff is working closely with relevant federal agencies to determine what lessons can be learned from this failure to help ensure this does not happen here in the United States. </td>
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<td class="breakup">“As any industry matures it will face growing pains and there will be individuals who believe they can use the fog of uncertainty to cover up their follies. When it comes to policy, it is the responsibility of the federal government to steer the boat, not row the boat. Our Committee will continue to work closely with relevant U.S. government entities to steer the boat away from nefarious actors - and it’s up to l </td>
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<td class="breakup">egitimate, law abiding industry partners to row the boat into law abiding waters.” </td>
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<td class="breakup">versus </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/ </td>
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<td><b>ozbot</b></td>
<td class="breakup">Digging through archives yields gold pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. </td>
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<td class="breakup">Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil financial network is bigger than the honest financial network, with the result that even though everyone knows what is happening, people continue to use the paper issued by the evil financial network, because of network effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use if you want to do business. </td>
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<td class="breakup">Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a “collapse of the total financial system”, as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with “S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005″ but the </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">y find easy money too seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s. </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigge </td>
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<td><b>mircea_popescu</b></td>
<td class="breakup">r, more serious, and more disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks ar </td>
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<td class="breakup">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00589798 = 0.4954 BTC [+] {2} </td>
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<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2011/ce-am-pierdut-si-voi-n-ati-avut/#comment-165319 >Mircea Popescu</a> It's baaaaack!!!</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/royal-revolt-ii-complete-strategy-guide-also-by-very-far-the-best-on-the-internet/#comment-165310 >Mircea Popescu</a> Well, it's a both-ways tower defense, you build the pathway and the op...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/royal-revolt-ii-complete-strategy-guide-also-by-very-far-the-best-on-the-internet/#comment-165307 >Diana Coman</a> the game went offline (it does that after five or so minutes of inactivity...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/the-apprenticeship-of-duddy-kravitz/#comment-165303 >Mircea Popescu</a> Ahahaha. If we met back when I was still in that line I'd have totally...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/the-apprenticeship-of-duddy-kravitz/#comment-165302 >pletzalcoatl</a> You were thinking a pallid Danny DeVito in a purple crushed velvet suit...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-05-nov-2015/#comment-165300 >Mircea Popescu</a> You're not fooling anyone, you know.</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-05-nov-2015/#comment-165297 >Tyrone White</a> What's up to all</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/hoe-jokes/#comment-165274 >Mircea Popescu</a> &updated.</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/the-apprenticeship-of-duddy-kravitz/#comment-165253 >Mircea Popescu</a> PS. s/undertaker/liquidator/ on re-read. Nfi what I was thinking.</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2016/lxs-ninxs/#comment-165251 >Mircea Popescu</a> Meh. More nudes less obscure software packages, I don't watsup or w/e.</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/the-apprenticeship-of-duddy-kravitz/#comment-165250 >Mircea Popescu</a> Obscure TV actor, plenty of those. (I didn't, for instance, review the...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/the-apprenticeship-of-duddy-kravitz/#comment-165239 >CarpraC</a> Since this post brought up ancient actors, their experience and quality, what...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2016/lxs-ninxs/#comment-165227 >temptease</a> call me whatsapp +79910404425</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/trilema-altogether-no-longer-showing/#comment-165222 >Mircea Popescu</a> Heh. Never heard of it. (I however have heard of that kinda posturing,...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/trilema-altogether-no-longer-showing/#comment-165221 >Anon</a> I don't know, some kind of "help you with your finances" scam/online...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/trilema-altogether-no-longer-showing/#comment-165220 >Mircea Popescu</a> No fucking idea, what is it ?</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/trilema-altogether-no-longer-showing/#comment-165219 >Anon</a> In the same line, what is Intuit?</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/kitty-freipurr-von-meow-and-other-tales-of-bring-your-own-adventure-to-tamarindo/#comment-165218 >Mircea Popescu</a> Heh. Nothing lasts forever, and the "independent woman" least of all.</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/trilema-altogether-no-longer-showing/#comment-165217 >Mircea Popescu</a> Wtf is this inane nonsense! Oh, I get it, artificially interesting...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/kitty-freipurr-von-meow-and-other-tales-of-bring-your-own-adventure-to-tamarindo/#comment-165216 >lexy229</a> > how exactly did you figure out what to do to have your avatar show up by...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/trilema-altogether-no-longer-showing/#comment-165214 >anon</a> Have a laugh Description Planet Earth's most widely read blog.... Read More Tim...</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2020/trilema-altogether-no-longer-showing/#comment-165212 >Mircea Popescu</a> Heh, the yearly problems of last year's. What a life.</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/breaking-usg-president-belect-pidden-announces-plans-to-sign-epochal-factaltering-change-footnote-executive-history/#comment-165102 >Mircea Popescu</a> Really, it's top100-ish pretty much everywhere.</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/breaking-usg-president-belect-pidden-announces-plans-to-sign-epochal-factaltering-change-footnote-executive-history/#comment-165101 >anon</a> #117 in Russia too.</li>
<li><a href=http://trilema.com/2021/breaking-usg-president-belect-pidden-announces-plans-to-sign-epochal-factaltering-change-footnote-executive-history/#comment-165100 >Joshue</a> Meanwhile when it comes to being famous in Gibraltar...</li>
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