Forum logs for 24 Sep 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F1D64166EF73F8BE6C16C0BA57218C67EACBA9839F58893858622BB11B0071DC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 168638246933202027422050642429749431015537230992318340365570882616403689471409401020138553120124066356009864693982343520874509550890671120511782077035315289201586039713696005217253034558261956482596111076944819988905108180333306795620181692852133128494385109887341386517907988458718170224508756534142874205617 divides RS [00:07]
mircea_popescu: eee [00:08]
phf: i haven't had to up myself in such a long time, took me a while to figure out how [00:13]
mod6: phf: heheh [00:13]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 ok, very nice thing! << thanks! Your suggestions and guidence are very much appreciated. [00:13]
mod6: mircea_popescu likes the mod6-formal. << Thank you, Sir! [00:14]
mod6: <+shinohai> http://archive.is/sMtvM <<< All aboard the Hindenburg train! << i lel'd. [00:20]
trinque: how do you like the lie error messages? [00:25]
trinque: that always gets me [00:25]
trinque: oh yeah, deedbot server reset the connection. [00:25]
trinque: mod6: I'll read over the final vpatch tomorrow and then sign [00:30]
trinque: asciilifeform: I think you'll be pleased to find that two of your objections have been resolved from the time I first posted these makefiles [00:30]
trinque: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-12-feb-2016#2025438 and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-13#1404463 [00:31]
a111: Logged on 2016-02-13 02:45 asciilifeform: pressing and building are philosophically distinct acts. [00:31]
a111: Logged on 2016-02-13 02:45 asciilifeform: or how about where it curl's from oracle.com ? [00:31]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-13#1404464 << this I think is still merited, in that the separation of at least "deps" and "shit" is meant to encourage *cutting them off* [00:32]
a111: Logged on 2016-02-13 02:46 asciilifeform: or where it has 5 makefiles (why ?) [00:32]
trinque: the presence of a bin folder manifest and makefile is intended to provide a place to check the sha512 hash of the built product upon such time as we can beat gcc into producing the exact same binary for a given release. [00:33]
mod6: If it's possible, it's there. If for no other reason, an optimistic reminder. [00:35]
BingoBoingo: <mats> takes a bit for superglue to cure << Which is why you might as well use JB weld [00:35]
mod6: One of the last changes I made was to rid the 'shit' directory, and just use one directory 'deps'. At which point the rotor & rotor patch were deedified. [00:35]
trinque: I only complain that the move wasn't towards "shit" [00:36]
trinque: :D [00:36]
mod6: So finally, one ends up with 3 new dirs: bin, build, and deps. [00:36]
mod6: Ah, lol. [00:36]
mod6: I kinda felt like placing things like 'rotor' in 'shit'. [00:36]
mod6: *wasn't accurate. [00:37]
* trinque just being an asshole [00:37]
trinque: could very well move the bin stuff into base makefile then [00:37]
mod6: Yes. Certainly. [00:38]
trinque: but, great start. personally I'm also excited by ben_vulpes work munching blocks with lisp [00:38]
trinque: time to start grokking satoshi's turd [00:38]
trinque: I've been giving the forth-y scripting component some attention lately [00:38]
BingoBoingo: shinohai: you forgot blockquote tags [00:38]
mod6: trinque: indeed, all of this we've done so far the easy part. [00:39]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/bitxatm-experiences-internal-orifice-exploitation/ << Qntra - BitXatm Experiences Internal Orifice Exploitation [00:41]
trinque: g'night all. [00:41]
mod6: gn! [00:42]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [00:48]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 431194 | Current Difficulty: 2.2583287217945956E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 431423 | Next Difficulty In: 229 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 19 hours, 58 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [00:48]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [00:48]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 600.72, vol: 3880.97451494 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 602.365, vol: 4099.89704 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 605.45, vol: 1773.4936795 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 601.851498, vol: 225708.77870000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 605.632, vol: 503.85252645 | Volume-weighted last average: 601.876928363 [00:48]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all --currency rmb [00:48]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 4014.8, vol: 225708.68710000 | Volume-weighted last average: 4014.8 [00:48]
BingoBoingo: !~ty [00:52]
jhvh1: You are very welcome Daddy [00:52]
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160924/#156 << "o hey, we made false promises and if you believed us it cost you money but it's ok! we told the state about it!" [02:25]
scriba: Something went wrong while attempting to read the log. [02:25]
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x92 in position 1371: invalid start byte] [02:25]
mircea_popescu: hurr. where the fuck do they keep coming from, these idiots. [02:26]
mircea_popescu: in other news, let's play "find the source". here goes : [02:42]
mircea_popescu: "The spirit of Jacobinism, if not entirely a new spirit, has at least been cloathed with a more gigantic body and armed with more powerful weapons than it ever before possessed. It is perhaps not too much to say, that it threatens more extensive and complicated mischiefs to the world than have hitherto flowed from the three great scourges of mankind, WAR, PESTILENCE and FAMINE. To what point it will ultimately lead society, i [02:44]
mircea_popescu: t is impossible for human foresight to pronounce but there is just ground to apprehend that its progress may be marked with calamities of which the dreadful incidents of the French revolution afford a very faint image." [02:44]
mircea_popescu: ahahahah steven dutch is hysterical. check out his like-this-not-like-that likbez : Да : http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/Graphics-Other/PSCI/IntelDomain.gif Нет : http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/Graphics-Other/PSCI/IntelCCult.gif [08:32]
mircea_popescu: thanks god "pop psychology", "religious dogmatism" and other such useful labels are provided by god immediately through direct affixion to subject matter. especially useful - "artistic narcissism". [08:33]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548032 << the mobos (esp. quality ones) are far scarcer [10:10]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 03:23 trinque: trolling places like craigslist and ebay for vintage opterons, probably also not a bad idea [10:10]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548047 << this, interestingly, is a duped mod, wonder how many of it will be found [10:11]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 04:07 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F1D64166EF73F8BE6C16C0BA57218C67EACBA9839F58893858622BB11B0071DC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 168638246933202027422050642429749431015537230992318340365570882616403689471409401020138553120124066356009864693982343520874509550890671120511782077035315289201586039713696005217253034558261956482596111076944819988905108180333306795620181692852133128494385109887341386517907988458718170224508756534142874205617 divides RS [10:11]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548016 << this is very spiffy and finally obsoletes the ad-hoc thing i've been using since rotor 1 - finally i can use mod6's script. will test later this weekend. [10:12]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 02:33 mod6: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, TMSR~ and General Assembly: I'd like to present, on behalf of The Bitcoin Foundation: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-September/000234.html [10:12]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548064 << with deterministic deps and gcc, etc, ought to be trivial [10:13]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 04:33 trinque: the presence of a bin folder manifest and makefile is intended to provide a place to check the sha512 hash of the built product upon such time as we can beat gcc into producing the exact same binary for a given release. [10:13]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548100 << iirc prof dutch is (now) in his 70s. he grew up in a ~working civilization, where the - yes - unexamined #includes - still added up to something ~sensible. [10:14]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 12:32 mircea_popescu: ahahahah steven dutch is hysterical. check out his like-this-not-like-that likbez : Да : http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/Graphics-Other/PSCI/IntelDomain.gif Нет : http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/Graphics-Other/PSCI/IntelCCult.gif [10:14]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform too late, i've beheaded him. [10:15]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc you already beheaded him 2yrs ago during the tile groups thread [10:15]
asciilifeform: how many heads does this dude have [10:15]
mircea_popescu: lmao. [10:15]
mircea_popescu: my memory is short and dysfunctional. [10:15]
asciilifeform: hey, if it regrows heads ! [10:16]
* mircea_popescu envisions this endgame state for his own 70s, where he keeps getting excited and writing articles in a fury, which are slowly decaying copies of already extant trilema articles. [10:16]
asciilifeform: lel [10:17]
asciilifeform: most essayists get there if they live enough [10:18]
shinohai: I envision the future being mircea_popescu 's head in a jar, labeled "Trilema" ala Richard Nixon from Futurama [10:18]
asciilifeform: shinohai: with the fish food!1111 [10:18]
shinohai: :D [10:18]
asciilifeform: trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548026 << i might have already linked to it, but the ~second~ version of the board is significantly better (2x the ram, digital vga) BUT doesn't come with probe. [10:19]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 02:57 trinque: echoing asciilifeform, I recommend anyone that has an interest in the future of republican computing purchases this asap http://www.semiconductorstore.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=48524 [10:19]
asciilifeform: btw do the folks gettin' excited over this item understand what it is actually for ? [10:20]
shinohai: Hopefully not a workbench weight like the pogo. [10:22]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, in re http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1544304 : the more scholarly inclined readers may know that the greeks had a very interesting method of constructive geometry called neusis. it consists of marked edge and pin, where you rotate the edge around a certain point. this allows you to, for instance, draw polygons with 10 or 12 faces but not 11 and to trisect the angle. [10:22]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 18:42 mircea_popescu: e truthiness and just follow the hand", such pinnacle of achievement in imbecility, and try to fucking draw the outer square yourself. [10:22]
mircea_popescu: this last problem is unsolvable (and proved as such, by an early application of galois theory even before galois got around to publishing it) in the classical paradigm of compass and straight edge. [10:23]
mircea_popescu: however that "classical" paradigm is interesting in itself : the greeks knew of neusis and used it. but eventually it fell in disfavour, because a) people are lazy and b) a guy named hippocrates (of kios) ran a campaign against it. presumably because it gave his aunt cancer. [10:25]
mircea_popescu: so the new method (easier! better!) also couldn't do some things the old (cancer! terrorist!) method could do and that something became a major point of crank science throughout the ~2k years of history this paradigm prevailed. [10:25]
mircea_popescu: perhaps the earliest attestable case of "global warming" in "science". [10:26]
shinohai: TIL Hippocrates of Kios was the Hellenistic Al Gore [10:28]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/tight-science-loose-pseudoscience-and-a-warm-pot-to-piss-in-intellectually-speaking/ << Trilema - Tight Science, Loose Pseudoscience, and a Warm Pot to Piss In (intellectually speaking) [10:31]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548127 << if yer buying it and don't know what for , it'll be a weight [10:34]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 14:22 shinohai: Hopefully not a workbench weight like the pogo. [10:34]
mircea_popescu: wait what ? pogo is no good now ? [10:37]
BingoBoingo: for some people [10:41]
BingoBoingo: For other people vice is workbench weight (they don't know how to mount it) [10:41]
shinohai: Well it isn't really weight I guess, I do rsync trb blockchain to it. So it has uses. [10:43]
mircea_popescu: i still have a crate of them stashed. [10:47]
asciilifeform: pogo is great if your proggy isn't a memory hog. [10:53]
asciilifeform: i still have a bunch of'em, they have 10,001 uses. [10:53]
asciilifeform: shinohai: don't expect to do much trb on the g1 board that comes with the sage - it has soldered-down 1GB of ram [10:54]
asciilifeform: (which is still 8x moar than pogo...) [10:54]
asciilifeform: i will spell out here, what the thing is for. it is for os development, and specifically those aspects that cannot be done under, e.g., qemu, namely -- diddling of live hardware (nics, vga, etc) [10:55]
asciilifeform: and cpu init (bios routines) [10:56]
asciilifeform: and reverse-engineering of heathen iron (various pci cards, and their winblows drivers) [10:56]
shinohai: asciilifeform: Did you do any further experiments on the mycloud mini ? [10:57]
shinohai: (as pogo upgrade) [10:57]
asciilifeform: probe lets you stop a running cpu from instruction 0 after powerup, if you want set breakpoints anywhere in memory (incl. smm) issue arbitrary bus cycles read/write all regs etc [10:57]
asciilifeform: shinohai: i got it jtag'd and then folks said 'snore' and i boxed it up, put on shelf. [10:57]
asciilifeform: shinohai: it isn't a game-changing box, is the problem, it still has very small ram [10:58]
shinohai: I didn't snore, I almost bought one but yeah lack of ram made me wait [10:58]
asciilifeform: shinohai: trb memory pighoggery prevents the practical trbification of any of these. but it is ~impossible to fix without rewriting good chunk of it. [10:59]
asciilifeform: so it was not yet done, and i don't expect to see it done any time soon. [10:59]
asciilifeform: the bleeding edge, afaik, is still jurov's [10:59]
shinohai: Probably not practical idea until mem leak is plugged in trb [11:00]
asciilifeform: shinohai: aside from the 300 bt / block, THERE IS NO LEAK [11:00]
asciilifeform: OMFG does ANYONE read logs [11:00]
shinohai: >.< [11:01]
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html [11:01]
asciilifeform: !~seen jurov [11:01]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: jurov was last seen in #trilema 1 week, 5 days, 2 hours, 2 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <jurov> Framedragger: irc also floods you with everythign in all channels, it' responisibility of your client to neatly sort it out [11:01]
asciilifeform: there is fragging. which is why current trb runs indefinitely in a footprint of ~4GB. [11:03]
phf: asciilifeform: i like how your hardware suggestions result in buying sprees. [11:03]
asciilifeform: phf: i'd prefer that they did not [11:03]
asciilifeform: at least, not without thought. [11:03]
phf: "i like how" [11:03]
asciilifeform: see also the sacramental 'Knight, seeing what the student was doing, spoke sternly: “You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong.”' [11:04]
shinohai: Have you tried throwing feces at it? [11:05]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-28#1287058 [11:09]
a111: Logged on 2015-09-28 21:22 phf: this goes back to tom knight and the lisp machine koan. you can't substitute understanding, and every piece of your stack where your understanding is limited by "stuff is happening i think" is going to bite you in the ass. specifically you can't take an opaque blob that barely runs on dev's machine and expect it to cleanly deploy, and no amount of container is going to change that. [11:09]
asciilifeform: this was a laddel thread, wasnnit. [11:10]
* asciilifeform looks, finds, unsurprised, yes. it was. [11:10]
phf: haha, it was, actually i thought it was something unrelated, because tom knight koan comes up ~a lot~ [11:10]
phf: one i first read those i thought to myself "that's cute but only 4? that's kind of limited". took me like 15 years to realize that not understanding of those is at the root of all computer folly [11:12]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/tight-science-loose-pseudoscience-and-a-warm-pot-to-piss-in-intellectually-speaking/#comment-119225 [11:20]
asciilifeform: phf: and yes. [11:20]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/1pZ6 [11:38]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [11:38]
BingoBoingo: !~ty shinohai [12:27]
jhvh1: You are very welcome Daddy [12:27]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/thermos-becomes-pressurized-container/ << Qntra - Thermos Becomes Pressurized Container [12:28]
phf: http://unicode.org/faq/emoji_dingbats.html includes such wonderful questions as "Once the Unicode Consortium encodes an emoji character, when will it appear on my phone?" and "But the Unicode Standard includes other flags, why don’t you include my flag?" [12:40]
phf: "Five symbol modifier characters that provide for a range of skin tones for human emoji were released in Unicode Version 8.0 (mid-2015). These characters are based on the six tones of the Fitzpatrick scale, a recognized standard for dermatology (there are many examples of this scale online, such as FitzpatrickSkinType.pdfexternal link). The exact shades may vary between implementations." [12:51]
asciilifeform: phf: approx as interesting in practice as prb [12:52]
asciilifeform: we will not be importing this crapolade. [12:52]
asciilifeform: anywhere. [12:52]
asciilifeform: let it live in the leprosorium where it belongs. [12:52]
phf: "When a human emoji is not immediately followed by a emoji modifier character, it should use a generic, non-realistic skin tone, such as:" (yellow, blue, gray) [12:52]
phf: well, remember that really old thread where we were deciding if tmsr material is ascii or utf-8 or somesuch, and i was saying "the implications of importing all the unicode shit is that we will have to support unicode libraries" etc [12:53]
phf: i suppose the solution is the same, cap it at version X [12:54]
phf: so you can use "zero width joiner" to combine a Fitzpatrick diverse boy/girl/man/woman into a back-of-ford-truck family sticker [12:56]
phf: i wonder if they are going to make a man|zero-width-joiner|boy sequence invalid, to fight pedophilia [12:57]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-31#1312696 [13:03]
a111: Logged on 2015-10-31 16:24 phf: some hypothetical b-a os and internal consistency of the whole model. if you say "we support utf-8" here, you're also saying "we support unicode x.y" everywhere [13:03]
jurov: phf: zero width is prolly okay, negative-width-joiner would be illegal [13:06]
BingoBoingo: <phf> "When a human emoji is not immediately followed by a emoji modifier character, it should use a generic, non-realistic skin tone, such as:" (yellow, blue, gray) << AHA the skin tones of real alcoholics, apneics, and anemics apparently aren't real! [13:14]
phf: hey that sounds dangerously like it can belong to a white male [13:24]
BingoBoingo: Don't Juge! Check your bull's privileige! [13:32]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548016 << this is very spiffy and finally obsoletes the ad-hoc thing i've been using since rotor 1 - finally i can use mod6's script. will test later this weekend. << hey thanks! let us know how it goes. [13:47]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 02:33 mod6: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, TMSR~ and General Assembly: I'd like to present, on behalf of The Bitcoin Foundation: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-September/000234.html [13:47]
mircea_popescu: !!up lontongmie [13:52]
deedbot: lontongmie voiced for 30 minutes. [13:52]
mod6: I love the use of "amateurish balderdash". [14:06]
mod6: Good read. [14:24]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548167 << somebody claiming I don't understand that I've bought a CPU debugger? [14:31]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 15:03 phf: asciilifeform: i like how your hardware suggestions result in buying sprees. [14:31]
trinque: I used to work for the first company that manufactured server blades... [14:32]
trinque: reddit-level circlejerk right there. [14:32]
trinque: bad freenode weather lately.. [14:47]
shinohai: indeed [14:47]
trinque: folks in #fleanode chattering about DDOS [14:51]
mircea_popescu: boy is freenode in a sorry state. currently five servers up, of which 130.239.18.119 and 193.10.255.100 are down solid. which leaves three. [15:02]
mircea_popescu: used to be 12+ last year this thing is definitely going away. [15:02]
ben_vulpes: interestingly, could not connect over ssl [15:11]
* mircea_popescu checks scriba, sees log works. nice. [15:12]
trinque: ben_vulpes: DDOS SSL endpoints, get cleartext passwords, ..., profit? [15:30]
mircea_popescu: cheaper to just ghost nicks neh [15:31]
ben_vulpes: that last bit though [15:33]
ben_vulpes: freenode passwords are useless as an authentication mechanism. the republic has an authentication mechanism, it is gpg-via-deedbot. [15:34]
ben_vulpes: !~later tell mod6 good to see that out in the wild [15:34]
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded. [15:34]
Framedragger: !$ hello [15:42]
scriba: Hello, world! My uptime is 0:18:00. [15:42]
Framedragger: ah, for once it recovers. [15:43]
Framedragger: /me pats [15:43]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-7/ << Qntra - Not Quite News Roundup Xtend 7 [15:52]
BingoBoingo: Seven weeks a roundup xtend! [15:52]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you auto-nuke youtube links iirc? [15:52]
BingoBoingo: Not auto-nuke, auto SPAM [15:52]
BingoBoingo: More severe than nuke [15:52]
ben_vulpes: hey hey the gang's all here [15:53]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: https://youtu.be/zJvYo5pZEfE?t=200 << the good good kicks in around t=200 [15:54]
shinohai: Nice roundup BingoBoingo ! [15:56]
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If see a video on youtube and want to link it on Qntra comments do the responsible thing. Use youtube-dl and then rehost the video. [15:58]
BingoBoingo: ty shinohai [15:58]
ben_vulpes: ho ho ho [16:04]
BingoBoingo: There is no reason to add value to youtube by allowing links to it. [16:05]
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/portland-road-etiquette << CH - Portland Road Etiquette [16:52]
mod6: again huh [16:56]
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> !~later tell mod6 good to see that out in the wild << thanks! And again, thanks for your help. :] [16:57]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> used to be 12+ last year this thing is definitely going away. << sounds like it [16:58]
BingoBoingo: Wait is Freenode gone yet? [17:00]
* shinohai switches to gossipd [17:01]
mod6: soon-ish. [17:01]
mod6: !~ later tell trinque anond_ here needs some help getting regstered with deedbot for eulora. he tried to register, althought I'm not sure if it worked. can you check it out for him? [17:09]
jhvh1: mod6: The operation succeeded. [17:09]
mod6: !!up anond [17:09]
deedbot: anond voiced for 30 minutes. [17:09]
mod6: this is what I see, for both nicks, so not sure: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/pzvpf/?raw=true [17:10]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/vox-media-torch-bearer-of-gawker-legacy-faces-own-scandal/ << Qntra - Vox Media, Torch Bearer of Gawker Legacy Faces Own Scandal [17:11]
mod6: !!gettrust anond deedbot [17:13]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections. [17:13]
mod6: anond: try to register again in her. [17:13]
mod6: *here [17:13]
mod6: with like: !!register <FP> [17:13]
anond: hi [17:13]
anond: should i give the register command here? [17:14]
mod6: yeah, a lot of people do. nothing to worry about. [17:14]
anond: ... [17:15]
anond: i have done the msg/register command here [17:15]
mod6: oh? [17:15]
anond: but nothing happened [17:15]
mod6: i believe that a prerequsite is having your key in a keyserver. [17:16]
anond: oh may be.. [17:16]
mod6: because I think that deedbot grabs the pubkey from there, although i may certainly be wrong [17:16]
anond: this is the point where i have a doubt [17:16]
anond: maybe you may help me? [17:16]
mod6: and it's not instant, i.e. if you send your key to a key server, it may be some hours before it can be queried successfully by deedbot. [17:16]
mod6: sure, one thing you can do, is give me your fingerprint [17:17]
anond: ok [17:17]
mod6: and i'll look it up [17:17]
anond: i understand [17:17]
anond: i have done around 30 minutes ago [17:17]
anond: but probabily have to wait more [17:17]
mod6: ahhh, ok then ya. might take a bit yet. [17:17]
anond: but i havent a doubt about if the process of upload the key was all correct [17:17]
mod6: maybe check back tomorrow, or later tonight if nothing else. [17:17]
anond: may you help with a specific doubt in this? [17:18]
mod6: about all i can do is try to look up your FP in some sks keyserver to see if its there to resolve that dependency. [17:18]
anond: well it can be also [17:19]
anond: but [17:19]
anond: i have genreated a text file with extension .asc with a header plus the key plus a footer...does you understand? oes you know what is? [17:20]
mod6: does it say something like "PGP PUBLIC KEY" at the top? [17:20]
anond: the header is "-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----" [17:20]
mod6: yes, ok. good. that is your public key. [17:21]
mod6: that is the thing you need to send to the key server. [17:21]
anond: the problem is that below the header.... between the header and the key.....appears the words " Version: GnuPG v2"" that i dont know if should remove or keep before upload to the servers... [17:21]
mod6: don't change what's in the key. [17:22]
anond: ok [17:22]
mod6: typically we suggest using version 1.4.x, but that part is entirely up to you. [17:22]
anond: the .asc file is like this: [17:23]
mod6: don't paste your whole key in here pls. [17:23]
anond: 1º line: "-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----" [17:23]
anond: 2º line: "Version: GnuPG v2" [17:23]
anond: 3º line: "mQENBFfm3n8BCAC4N9zJjW............." [17:24]
mod6: yup, nothing wrong with that. [17:24]
shinohai: Oh ffs [17:24]
anond: the rest of the key and then the footer [17:24]
mod6: yup, which is fine. just need to submit that entire key to the keyserver. [17:24]
anond: ok..the its done..i havent removed the second line before to upload [17:24]
mod6: you can do that two ways. [17:24]
mod6: ok cool. [17:25]
mod6: here's a link to copy in your entire key and paste it: [17:25]
mod6: https://sks-keyservers.net/i/#submit [17:25]
anond: waht is the other way? [17:25]
anond: for curiosity [17:25]
mod6: or you can read `man gpg` and look up --send-keys [17:25]
anond: ok [17:25]
anond: the ASCII-armored PGP includes the header and footer? [17:26]
mod6: yup, you need everything from: [17:26]
mod6: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- [17:26]
mod6: through [17:26]
mod6: -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- [17:26]
BingoBoingo: http://gomerblog.com/2016/09/its-time-for-a-seasonal-pumpkin-spiced-bowel-prep/ << Related [17:26]
mod6: bowel? [17:27]
mod6: lol [17:27]
anond: rsrrss [17:27]
mod6: “So don’t forget to place your orders by calling 1-800-POO-BLOW before supplies run out!” [17:27]
anond: crazy [17:28]
mod6: im actually having a hard time NOT calling that number. [17:28]
anond: mod6, how i do a search? ...what to put in 'Search String:' [17:28]
mod6: at the sks site? [17:29]
anond: yes.. [17:29]
anond: the key ID? [17:29]
mod6: either the email address, or 'nickname' or name you placed when making this key. [17:29]
mod6: or even better, your fingerprint, or keyid. [17:29]
anond: ok . i wiil try key id [17:30]
mod6: iirc placing '0x' infront of the finger print seems to work better? [17:30]
mod6: might be wrong about that. sks sucks. [17:30]
anond: No results found: No keys found [17:30]
mod6: after submission of your key, it takes a while for sks to process and index the key so it can be "searchable" [17:34]
mod6: figure, hours, not minutes. [17:34]
trinque: hmph! he says [17:35]
trinque: lol [17:35]
mod6: lol, what can ya do? [17:35]
mod6: RAGEQUIT [17:35]
mod6: !!up anond [17:36]
deedbot: anond voiced for 30 minutes. [17:36]
anond: wow [17:36]
anond: these command are automatic? [17:36]
anond: up and voice? [17:36]
mod6: well, not really. once you are registered, you'll be able to msg deedbot directly and do the !!up command yourself. [17:37]
mod6: which consists of getting an encrypted otp from deedbot, derypting it, then feeding the otp back to deedbot with !!v <OTP> [17:37]
mod6: then, if successful, you'll be voiced. [17:37]
anond: ok.. maybe i would do authenticated login [17:37]
trinque: !!help [17:38]
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/help.html [17:38]
trinque: anond: ^ [17:38]
anond: thanks ...all this is alot of new info.. [17:39]
mod6: np. yah, it takes a few times. [17:39]
anond: this is very crazy and cool [17:44]
anond: i hope i may learn more [17:45]
mod6: ah, welcome to it :] [17:45]
mod6: there's a rich history in the logs dating back to early 2013. [17:45]
mod6: participation in this channel encourages reading back at least 6 months from now. [17:46]
anond: yes..maybe in the near future i myght do that [17:54]
anond: how i may have sure that i will be able to go back to this channel [17:55]
anond: as yousee i am not used to use IRC [17:55]
mod6: i think what you require, is just to be able /join #trilema, have your key registered with deedbot, and have at least one rating from a Lord. [17:56]
mod6: one non-negitive rating, that is. [17:56]
anond: ok..... [17:57]
mod6: are you familiar with the WoT (web of trust)? [17:57]
mod6: http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ [17:58]
BingoBoingo: http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/medfly.htm [18:53]
ben_vulpes: w's the weather? [18:55]
mod6: stormy with a chance of packeting [18:55]
BingoBoingo: !~weather [19:13]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "weather" is not a valid command. [19:13]
BingoBoingo: ^ shinohai pls to fix [19:13]
shinohai: !~weather [19:14]
jhvh1: stormy with a chance of packeting [19:14]
BingoBoingo: ty [19:14]
shinohai: props to mod6 [19:15]
mircea_popescu: !!up anond [19:35]
deedbot: anond voiced for 30 minutes. [19:35]
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160924/#271 << i recall the solution being "ascii and fuck you." [19:43]
scriba: Something went wrong while attempting to read the log. [19:43]
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x92 in position 1371: invalid start byte] [19:43]
mircea_popescu: lmao. such point in case. [19:44]
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160924/#285 << cheers. [19:44]
scriba: Something went wrong while attempting to read the log. [19:44]
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x92 in position 1371: invalid start byte] [19:44]
BingoBoingo: http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ceeoh.htm [19:48]
BingoBoingo: http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/fishies.htm << "The "Environmental Defense Fund"'s darling is farmed catfish. Perhaps they see a lot of themselves in bottom-feeding scum-sucking slime-covered toothless scavengers tossed free food. The Mekong giant catfish, Pangasianodon gigas, has hit 660 lb - but only if you give generously and often. " [19:58]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/duterte-assigns-phillipine-police-to-investigate-us-police/ << Qntra - Duterte Assigns Phillipine Police To Investigate US Police [20:30]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A7763314024A636A7A49B1EBDE60BB1C47E2A8DE95A02C3FFCF374D32BEADCBA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 93717621124200192314145705948137075738570941668159058108077267463226172347789 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.203.181.151 (ssh-rsa key from 189.203.181.151 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+189.203.181.151@mkj [20:32]
mod6: <+shinohai> props to mod6 << o7 [20:34]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo From latest Qntra: "While lesser world leaders the criminal gang in Washington" .... could use a placate perhaps? I didn't quite understand the sentence. [21:06]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [21:06]
BingoBoingo: ty fxd [21:07]
shinohai: o/ [21:08]
shinohai: Excellent piece though, Duterte brings the lulz [21:08]
BingoBoingo: ty [21:18]
BingoBoingo: http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/mash.htm [21:25]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha pinoy revolutio [21:45]
phf: every time it's new and novel ways in which the bot might fail. now irc.freenode.net is simply not resolving, and then host down, etc. [21:45]
mircea_popescu: heh [21:46]
mircea_popescu: phf 64.86.243.181, 130.239.18.119, 164.132.77.237, 139.162.227.51, 91.217.189.42, 38.229.70.22, 82.96.64.4, 195.154.200.232, 185.30.166.38, 162.213.39.42 << pick from there [21:47]
mircea_popescu: note that ~half are down. [21:47]
mircea_popescu: !$ hello [21:49]
scriba: Hello, world! My uptime is 4:50:57. [21:49]
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160924/#334 << me regrets every youtube link on trilema. [21:49]
scriba: Something went wrong while attempting to read the log. [21:49]
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x92 in position 1371: invalid start byte] [21:49]
mircea_popescu: oh ffs still with this ? [21:49]
mircea_popescu: i imagine he can't recover, either. [21:49]
phf: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160924/#1 [21:52]
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-24: [00:29:02] <mats> http://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/product_p/sb.htm [21:52]
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160924/#200 [21:53]
scriba: Something went wrong while attempting to read the log. [21:53]
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x92 in position 1371: invalid start byte] [21:53]
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160924/#50 [21:53]
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-24: [00:55:01] <asciilifeform> fun to trap self in own house, ahaha [21:53]
phf: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160924/#98 [21:53]
scriba: Something went wrong while attempting to read the log. [21:53]
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x92 in position 1371: invalid start byte] [21:53]
mircea_popescu: heh [21:53]
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. [21:53]
mircea_popescu: http://67.media.tumblr.com/8f8671c0fc836e95e7fe2d06be7c0989/tumblr_nhn904li3B1t1ja2oo1_400.gif << here's severe indigestion. [21:54]
BingoBoingo: !!up DarkMatters [22:30]
deedbot: DarkMatters voiced for 30 minutes. [22:30]
DarkMatters: hello [22:35]
phf: "Ask HN: What's the best way to learn about the blockchain?" [22:36]
BingoBoingo: DarkMatters: Pls to offer an introduction. Who is your daddy and what does he do? [22:38]
phf: "A.I. Doesn't Get Black Twitter (inverse.com)" [22:39]
DarkMatters: Lol, I'm here following the link on bitcointalk.org trying to get the game running [22:44]
phf: "Richard Stallman and GNU refused to let libreboot go, despite stating its intention to leave culture rant libreboot.org" (particularly hilarious rant in light of http://zammit.org/libreboot-screwup.html) [22:48]
phf: ok, i'm done with public media for this week [22:50]
BingoBoingo: phf: Maybe switch to pubic media? [22:52]
BingoBoingo: DarkMatters: pm shinohai, also answer question: WHo is your daddy and what does he do? [22:53]
shinohai: I have usermode +g set, I take no PM's until BingoBoingo 's question is answered [22:54]
shinohai: LOL [22:58]
phf: so people who took over operation of gmane (~one~ server) just posted their current setup, http://home.gmane.org/2016/09/14/anatomy-gmane-v2/ (4 x ElasticSearch data servers 48GB, 2x2TB disk, ... ... ... ...) [23:00]
phf: if you guys thought the original was bad, see what the full stack engineers who took it over are cooking up for modern best practices version [23:02]
BingoBoingo: In other noose, Donald Trump-Clinton has invited former William Jefferson Clinton slampiece Gennifer Flowers to the debate Monday as a front row guest. [23:54]
BingoBoingo: !~isup jameslafond.com [23:59]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "isup" is not a valid command. [23:59]
shinohai: Yeah I do need to add isup too eh [23:59]
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