Forum logs for 18 Jun 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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BingoBoingo	FabianB: Down in the sense it isn't $1200 atm	[00:03]
FabianB	or not yet 5000	[00:05]
BingoBoingo	That too	[00:05]
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thestringpuller	;;diff	[00:17]
gribble	1.1756551916903952E10	[00:17]
thestringpuller	;;bc,stats	[00:17]
gribble	Current Blocks: 306385 \| Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 \| Next Difficulty In: 46 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 6 hours, 5 minutes, and 58 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 13432619724.3 \| Estimated Percent Change: 14.25646	[00:17]
thestringpuller	lol	[00:17]
thestringpuller	/r/bitcoin may be have officially become too stupid to read...	[00:20]
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thestringpuller	;;seen nubbins`	[00:28]
gribble	nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 9 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: ^ lel, but how many t-shirts?	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	jesus im captive in retard hell.	[00:30]
mike_c	you could /join #bitcoin-dev	[00:30]
fluffypony	lol	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	argentinian printer. "pls to come over, file is not good". "what' the problem with it ?" "it does not look good"	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	im like what the shit, it's a 100% saturation graytone affair. so i send a 1200 ppi version, both png AND tiff, cause who knows which way the retard is retarded.	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	maybe has shitty png deflator. maybe has shitty who knows what.	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	obviously shit email servers can't take a 20mb attachment. but anyway, next day ?	[00:32]
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mircea_popescu	"file not good pls to come over MUST SHOW".	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	cause retard can't fucking use language, must pls show.	[00:32]
Mats_cd03	time to cut him loose	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	goddamned monkeys.	[00:32]
BingoBoingo	And then he took his pants off?	[00:33]
mircea_popescu	Mats_cd03 this one's the smart one.	[00:33]
Mats_cd03	I'm sorry	[00:33]
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mircea_popescu	not as sorry as his mom should be.	[00:34]
BingoBoingo	not as sorry as his mom should be. << So you're saying he didn't even marry an older overweight Englishwoman?	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	what printer email server rejects 20mb attachments i want to know.	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	what do they print, offset keychains ?	[00:36]
BingoBoingo	Prolly	[00:36]
BingoBoingo	Maybe they use a web press for keychains	[00:37]
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los_pantalones	better bring the file in on a floppy disk	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	that they probalby can handle.	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	why does anyone letkids out of highschool that can't give good error reports anymore is beyond me.	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	you can't give a fucking error report, you can't graduate. fuck you, 17 forever, ritalin + medication to give you pimples, and no beer or condoms.	[00:39]
los_pantalones	better give em the condoms, don't want more of that type runnin around	[00:40]
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mircea_popescu	what was the "giving people spontaneous lactation" antidepressant thing ?	[00:40]
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BingoBoingo	Risperidone	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	ty	[00:41]
BingoBoingo	Prolly don't give them ritalin though, they'll just sell it	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	i don't mean give in that sense.	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	suppositories + steel chastity belts.	[00:43]
BingoBoingo	Ah, Risperidone also comes in a depot injection forumla so you can prolly dart them from of moving vehicle	[00:43]
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mircea_popescu	http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/06/09/tracygold-31722/images/full/16.jpg	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	these people and their photochop skills	[00:44]
mthreat	did they photoshop goatse into that? good job	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:48]
Mats_cd03	ever tried no poo pills BingoBoingo?	[00:48]
BingoBoingo	Mats_cd03: No	[00:48]
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Mats_cd03	great for hiking trips.	[00:53]
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benkay	^^ til	[01:03]
BingoBoingo	Mats_cd03: I might have to remember that but usually if I have to poo while hiking I just do	[01:03]
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benkay	moss is a fantastic bumwipe.	[01:07]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/simple-transaciton-explorer-added/	[01:07]
benkay	far better than paper.	[01:07]
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mircea_popescu	benkay that's because the moss actually wants your poo	[01:07]
benkay	oh attributing agency are we?	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	lol ya	[01:09]
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BingoBoingo	Well, moss is odd. Maybe it has agency without ambition.	[01:11]
benkay	;;buy	[01:14]
gribble	(buy [--long] [at\|@] []) -- Logs a buy order for units of , at a price of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox\|bitstamp)(ask\|bid\|last\|high\|low\|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message)	[01:14]
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benkay	;;buy many hours of ruby development @ .15 BTC price obviously negotiable depending on skill	[01:16]
gribble	Error: 'many' is not a valid positive floating point number.	[01:16]
benkay	fuck you, gribble	[01:16]
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benkay	;;buy 40 hours of ruby development @ .15 BTC price obviously negotiable depending on skill	[01:17]
gribble	Error: 'of' is not a valid price input.	[01:17]
benkay	;;buy 40 "hours of ruby development" @ .15 BTC price obviously negotiable depending on skill	[01:17]
gribble	Order id 20771 created.	[01:17]
benkay	;;buy 40 "hours of js development" @ .1 BTC price obviously negotiable depending on skill	[01:17]
gribble	Order id 20772 created.	[01:17]
benkay	;;buy 40 "hours of html/css development" @ .05 BTC price obviously negotiable depending on skill	[01:17]
gribble	Order id 20773 created.	[01:17]
fluffypony	https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/autoblow-2-a-realistic-robotic-oral-sex-simulator-for-men	[01:18]
benkay	;;sell 1 "single-page javascript application of reasonable scope, including backend development and operations support" @ 40 BTC	[01:19]
gribble	Order id 20774 created.	[01:19]
benkay	;;sell 1 "hour of *nix operations support" @ .25 BTC	[01:20]
gribble	Order id 20775 created.	[01:20]
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mircea_popescu	selling js buying ruby wtf is this	[01:22]
benkay	mm-ing development	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	lol	[01:22]
benkay	buying js hours, selling js apps.	[01:22]
benkay	so dumb they need pimping, etc	[01:23]
jurov	benkay: the *nix operations support is done by yourself?	[01:23]
benkay	me, xmj, rye	[01:23]
benkay	others not in the wot	[01:23]
benkay	derpy little consultancy is picking up steam	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	dun break it nao.	[01:24]
benkay	more likely to break me	[01:25]
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benkay	;;sell 1 "native mobile (iOS or Android) application of reasonable scope" @ 100 BTC	[01:26]
gribble	Order id 20776 created.	[01:26]
benkay	;;sell 1 "simple website including logo design, branding and styling" @ 2 BTC	[01:27]
gribble	Order id 20777 created.	[01:27]
mike_c	you've got a good rng hooked up to your price engine.	[01:28]
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benkay	oh you're funny.	[01:28]
mike_c	ty ty. i'll be here all week	[01:28]
benkay	k i've stuffed the order book adequately nao. SEND ME YOUR LEADS.	[01:29]
benkay	!up gabriel_laddel	[01:29]
benkay	who are you, sir?	[01:29]
benkay	or madam	[01:30]
kakobrekla	!up gabriel_laddel	[01:30]
benkay	wtf is this	[01:30]
kakobrekla	!up gabriel_laddel3	[01:30]
kakobrekla	!up gabriel_laddel	[01:30]
kakobrekla	lmao	[01:30]
kakobrekla	assbot is gone	[01:31]
benkay	such tests	[01:31]
benkay	well i'm off	[01:31]
benkay	adios gents. clear my orders pls.	[01:31]
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benkay	!up gabriel_laddel	[01:31]
kakobrekla	gl benkay	[01:31]
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kakobrekla	!up gabriel_laddel	[01:31]
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kakobrekla	ha	[01:31]
kakobrekla	how many asseters does it take to up gabriel_laddel	[01:32]
benkay	what is even state	[01:32]
gabriel_laddel	monads	[01:32]
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jurov	http://animals.io9.com/why-are-these-bears-having-oral-sex-1590980883	[01:37]
assbot	Why Are These Bears Having Oral Sex?	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.0008254 = 24.8033 BTC [-] {2}	[01:38]
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mircea_popescu	o hey nice find	[01:51]
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mircea_popescu	so only mammals that like fruits are cocksuckers ?	[01:52]
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BingoBoingo	;;tslb	[01:55]
gribble	Time since last block: 13 minutes and 47 seconds	[01:55]
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mircea_popescu	lol all the mpex css modders!	[01:57]
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mircea_popescu	jurov: it should do bait << it should do mp approved bait.	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	want a list of tumblrs ?	[01:58]
jurov	FabianB: ^	[01:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.201 = 0.603 BTC [-]	[01:59]
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mircea_popescu	so i took fluffypony's advice and hired a coupla dozen fiverr kids. since pretty much the only thing they seem to be able to do that's useful is put up/distribute flyers on their campus, im having a coupla dozen do that	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	curious what exactly comes out of this	[02:01]
BingoBoingo	Nice, what campuses are these?	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	i dunno, mostly us	[02:01]
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BingoBoingo	Ah, just wondering if I might stumble into any this week	[02:01]
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BingoBoingo	%ticker	[02:03]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 235 Last Price: 150 24h-Vol: 3k High: 180 Low: 150 VWAP: 153	[02:03]
Naphex	"Andreas Antonopolous delivers a stunning presentation of crypto currency to a virtual room full of knowledge seeking students."	[02:04]
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Naphex	who writes these titles o.o	[02:04]
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BingoBoingo	%book	[02:04]
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atcbot	35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 \| 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140	[02:04]
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jurov	;;ticker	[02:05]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 605.98, Best ask: 607.49, Bid-ask spread: 1.51000, Last trade: 607.49, 24 hour volume: 6175.46701712, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.703307988	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	o look who's back	[02:06]
Naphex	i got back a while ago, but mostly just sitting and idling	[02:06]
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jurov	!up dR3buttnix	[02:07]
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mircea_popescu	makes two of us lol	[02:07]
Naphex	trying to lax a bit before getting multicurrency live	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i vaguely remember chicago something or the other.	[02:07]
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BingoBoingo	I'm not headed that far north soon, but I'll keep a look out.	[02:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082545 = 3.3843 BTC [+]	[02:11]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/bitcoin-upward-trend-a-prediction-for-legs-4-5/	[02:14]
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penguirker	New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/litecoins-swan-song/	[02:21]
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asciilifeform	i get up for one day into meatspace, and back - and now 'rentacoder' is back from the dead?! or what is that 'fiver' thing	[02:27]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform rentabonger.	[02:28]
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asciilifeform	;;ud bonger	[02:28]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bonger \| Upload a picture of bonger. 2. bongers. greatest last name granted to a person. Usually resides in a man cave, playing madden. Very fun name to say. Ladies ...	[02:28]
TheNewDeal	bc,stats	[02:29]
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mike_c	mircea_popescu: flyers promoting what?	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	mike_c i'd show you but i'm ashamed	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	it's a pdf	[02:30]
asciilifeform	shame or not, there still exists no universal replacement for pdf (unless you count postscript)	[02:30]
mike_c	ooh, now I'm the curious one.	[02:31]
mike_c	it's for your band isn't it?	[02:31]
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mircea_popescu	mnope	[02:31]
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mircea_popescu	ok ok here we go :	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyer.pdf	[02:32]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you don't count post script, because you're dealing with random college kids.	[02:32]
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mike_c	hm, that is interesting. seems like it will be difficult to measure the effect.	[02:34]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: your students hablan inglés ?	[02:34]
TheNewDeal	los estudiantes	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	mike_c buy some kids a beer. what effect do you expect ?	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform which you mean ?	[02:34]
asciilifeform	the locals	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	it's fiverr not cinqueeee	[02:34]
asciilifeform	(presumably meatspace flyer ?)	[02:34]
asciilifeform	aha	[02:35]
mike_c	well, effects would be: 1) do they do the work (maybe they have to send you a pic?) 2) does anyone read it	[02:36]
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mike_c	i spend too much time trying to figure out which 50% of advertising works.	[02:37]
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mthreat	pearl necklaces hah	[02:37]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c in general i find us kids can be more or less trusted to go through the motions / respect the formal parts of the spec	[02:37]
TheNewDeal	Bitcoins foremost educational resource	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	they don't usually do anything useful, but it's never for lack of pretending like they tried.	[02:38]
TheNewDeal	love it	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal i had something similar in romanian a few years ago	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	it drove people NUTS	[02:38]
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TheNewDeal	hahaha	[02:38]
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mircea_popescu	they'd have like beer parties dedicated to discussing just how fucking just not done such deeds are.	[02:39]
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TheNewDeal	like Nikola Tesla nuts or Timothy McVeigh nuts?	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	like angry german kid nuts	[02:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [-]	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	or w/e, reddit nuts	[02:40]
TheNewDeal	ewww	[02:40]
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mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[02:42]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 603.31, Best ask: 606.71, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 604.58, 24 hour volume: 6255.76911036, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.9930859	[02:42]
BingoBoingo	!jd mpif	[02:42]
assbot	Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.86463072 BTC; -0.23519938 BTC (-0.1375%) since last check 1d 2h 59m 48s ago.	[02:42]
BingoBoingo	Needs moar klye	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	totally.	[02:43]
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Mats_cd03	i can't tell if you're trying to bait college feminists into marketing trilema	[02:50]
Mats_cd03	or just being yourself.	[02:50]
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TheNewDeal	what if he is accomplishing both at the same time	[02:52]
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TheNewDeal	insert Neo meme	[02:53]
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mircea_popescu	Mats_cd03 right ?	[03:15]
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mircea_popescu	btw moiety_ http://trilema.com/2011/pisicute/	[03:17]
assbot	Pisicute pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[03:17]
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moiety_	mircea_popescu: they are so tiny! so cute, but they need some biscuits	[03:24]
moiety_	are they yours?	[03:24]
moiety_	googles not translating well for me D;	[03:25]
moiety_	perhaps mine are just fat cats	[03:25]
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moiety	ffs freenode	[03:29]
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Mats_cd03	for future reference, the no poo pills i was referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loperamide	[03:31]
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assbot	Loperamide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[03:31]
asciilifeform	Mats_cd03: interesting case of the kind of thinking that gave us, e.g. DXM	[03:32]
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Mats_cd03	i may have used it a few times to punish a thief in the office	[03:33]
asciilifeform	Mats_cd03: 'let's take a drug that's been known for 5,000 years, but is too much fun; nip at the structure a bit until we have a - anti-diarrheal, cough suppressant, etc. that's almost as good as opium.'	[03:33]
Mats_cd03	thats p much how rx research works no?	[03:33]
Mats_cd03	brute force all of the things. see what works, rinse, repeat.	[03:34]
asciilifeform	Mats_cd03: not necessarily - where in nature do you find, e.g. ssri	[03:34]
asciilifeform	talking about the goal, vs. the process	[03:34]
Mats_cd03	o	[03:34]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: SSRI came from... Benadryl!	[03:34]
asciilifeform	sure.	[03:34]
asciilifeform	dxm, loperamide, etc. solve what might be called 'fiat problems'	[03:34]
Mats_cd03	after 1 no pill a day for 4 days during a field exercise, i was literally full of shit	[03:35]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/	[03:35]
Mats_cd03	i used a scale...my poop was 4.6 pounds	[03:35]
asciilifeform	in both examples, ordinary opium is the champ	[03:35]
asciilifeform	interestingly, sometimes the pharma folks fail: they spent some years trying to cough up a dopamine reuptake inhibitor that doesn't reduce to a synthetic cocaine, and, afaik, gave up	[03:36]
asciilifeform	1) pick a problem 2) ban solution 3) ??? 4) profit!	[03:37]
asciilifeform	this is why the 'optimize for patentability' process is an inevitable crock of shit. when the scamz0rs can't enclose the commons - they torch them.	[03:40]
moiety	is it just me or does the trilema header change more frequently these days?	[03:40]
mike_c	the latter.	[03:43]
mike_c	Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale.	[03:44]
moiety	thanks mike_c	[03:44]
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BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: They founf a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor in Bupropion. Note the substitution that was made... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion	[03:46]
assbot	Bupropion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[03:46]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: so weak as to be almost useless.	[03:46]
BingoBoingo	(The interesting part is the picture... check the ring)	[03:46]
asciilifeform	which is the way usg likes it.	[03:47]
Mats_cd03	mike_c: har har	[03:47]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Not useless, just... dangerous in actually useful amounts.	[03:47]
asciilifeform	~= useless.	[03:47]
moiety	i get the kitten post now. good work mircea_popescu lol you need to source some ar ones.	[03:50]
asciilifeform	btc folks who expect to 'can have problems' from daring to demonetize the dollar should contemplate gedankenexperiment - what'd happen to a nation that 'demonetizes'... cocaine. (that is, establishes dirt-cheap production & distribution.) if your starfish doesn't quiver at the thought of the 'problems you can have' then...	[03:51]
moiety	bupropion is given rarely here as an antidepressant but more as an anti smoking thing, as its not licensed in the same was as in the us	[03:51]
moiety	way*	[03:51]
asciilifeform	learn how alchemists were treated back when influential folks thought that alchemy might work	[03:52]
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asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: the basic idea behind the 'antidepressant' market is at least as mistaken as the phlogiston theory. so what kind of result can be expected.	[03:55]
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BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Of course, well at least it has been since MOAIs fell to the wayside.	[03:56]
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BingoBoingo	;;google new nardil sucks	[03:57]
gribble	Old Nardil Vs. New Nardil - Emsam and other MAOIs - Crazy Talk ...: ; Nardil and Dry Mouth - Depression: ; Drug Ratings for NARDIL - Ask a Patient: (1 more message)	[03:57]
BingoBoingo	Seems drugs can have problems too	[03:57]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Here Bupropion is used frequently when people discover aspects of the SSRI side effect profile.	[03:58]
asciilifeform	e.g. impotence	[03:58]
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BingoBoingo	impotence, inability to orgasm,... the full set is rather large	[03:58]
asciilifeform	the basic formula of antidepressant market: 1) http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#722631 2) side effects are a gift from the gods: 10 side effects - 10 kinds of pill you can now sell.	[03:59]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[03:59]
asciilifeform	i've met folks taking 5+ psych meds, mostly against... each other	[03:59]
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mircea_popescu	moiety those were babies	[04:01]
BingoBoingo	It's usually how things work	[04:01]
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moiety	i had a patient that was on so many conflicting medications his liver was shutting down. every time i saw him, he was thinner and felt worse and they just wouldn't do anything. i'm worried what happened to him since i left	[04:01]
BingoBoingo	The only significant problem with MAOIs was they prevented selling the patient other drugs... at least drugs that aren't amphetamines	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale. << freezer bags ftw	[04:02]
BingoBoingo	!b 1	[04:02]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform << i don't see it. columbia.	[04:03]
Mats_cd03	dafuq am i going to do with freezer bags	[04:03]
asciilifeform	columbia << not a military giant who can make the 'demonetization' stick globally.	[04:04]
asciilifeform	a la brits/opium/19th-c.	[04:04]
moiety	they have started bowel screening here for the 50+. you get cardboard sticks and instructions to shit on your bagged hand and smear it on a chart with said sticks, which you do over the course of X days and send it off to the GP	[04:04]
moiety	poor postmen	[04:04]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform well now that all depends.	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	you can buy cocaine can't you ?	[04:05]
asciilifeform	cocaine demonetization is, of course, gedankenexperiment. nobody interesting is particularly well-positioned to benefit from it, and so it won't happen - just as cardboard full-height replica of eiffel's tower won't happen.	[04:05]
moiety	Mats_cd03: use it like a mit lol	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	fun fact : psychiatrists with child practices occasionally get to see cases of prepubescent kids that anally masturbate with their shit and end up with serious constipation issues	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	apparently it's a thing	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	(documented for centuries etc)	[04:07]
asciilifeform	herr doktor freud	[04:07]
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Mats_cd03	wat	[04:08]
Mats_cd03	for fucks sake	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	Mats_cd03 welcome to -assets, where you broaden	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	your horizonts.	[04:09]
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asciilifeform	(coke is no more difficult to churn out by the gigaton than, e.g. progesterone. do you see it at local pharmacist for a penny a dose? didn't think so. because it is a kind of chemical / international fiat currency. with all of the features that come with such.)	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	notrly. sugar is a better comparison	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	coke is an agro product. and for that matter, quite similar to sugar	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	so your gedanken experiment could well be carried out in a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal.	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	http://www.imperialsugar.com/vintage-imperial-sugar/vintage-commercials	[04:12]
assbot	Vintage Commercials \| Imperial Sugar	[04:12]
asciilifeform	could easily become the same kind of 'agro product' as... insulin.	[04:12]
asciilifeform	(bacterium is energetically-cheaper than plowing fields)	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	i wonder.	[04:13]
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mircea_popescu	if this were true coke market in the us would be like meth market	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	it's not.	[04:13]
asciilifeform	genetically diddling e-coli is tricky.	[04:13]
TheNewDeal	wait are we talking about Coke or coke	[04:13]
asciilifeform	c	[04:14]
TheNewDeal	I was going to say, Coke is verrry similar to sugar	[04:14]
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TheNewDeal	still won't see it for 1 cent at your local whatnot	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	actually coke is very similar to fructose	[04:15]
asciilifeform	coke market in the us would be like meth market << nope. bioreactor (aside from somebody having to jump the hurdle and produce the transgenic critter in the first place) is a considerably more cerebral undertaking than grignard reaction in a garage.	[04:15]
TheNewDeal	fructose is sugar	[04:16]
TheNewDeal	subset	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you say this on the basis of what.	[04:17]
asciilifeform	a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal... an agro product << point of the second (e. coli) gedankenexperiment isn't that the planet needs a gigaton of coke (perhaps it does, but i digress) but would be to profit maximally off the 'demonetization.'	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	people microbrew, god love them.	[04:17]
asciilifeform	which 'this' ?	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	"is a considerably more cerebral"	[04:18]
asciilifeform	aha	[04:18]
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*	asciilifeform was involved in a (failed) project to churn out butyrylcholinesterase via transgenics.	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	ya but i mean...	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	before every hick set his garage on fire trying to make meth	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	people thought organic synthesis is a cerebral endeavour	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	now they have a reality show abvout it	[04:20]
asciilifeform	it is again - when the one-step precursors are unavailable	[04:20]
asciilifeform	(the hicks don't start with a bag of carbon, a bottle of water...)	[04:20]
TheNewDeal	or you just have to know people that steal a gigaton of the precursor?	[04:21]
asciilifeform	in this scenario, the 'cerebral' work was done for you - by the folks who built the plant which churns out pseudoephedrine by the gigaton	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	"Current meds: lamotrigine 300mg, topiramate 325mg, buspirone 60mg, protriptyline 60mg, EPA 600mg, methylphenidate 5-10mg, lorazepam 1mg PRN	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	Past meds (likely incomplete): Abilify, clonazepam, desipramine, diazepam, Gabitril, lithium, Neurontin, Paxil, prochlorperazine, Provigil, Prozac, Risperdal, Seroquel, Serzone, Strattera, Trileptal, Zyprexa"	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	poor livers.	[04:22]
asciilifeform	poor cns.	[04:22]
TheNewDeal	who has this list?	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	what cns ?	[04:22]
TheNewDeal	central nervous system	[04:22]
asciilifeform	central nervous	[04:22]
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mircea_popescu	http://crazy-meds1.blogspot.com << this guy	[04:23]
assbot	Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i know dude. the idea is there's no such thing in there	[04:23]
asciilifeform	lol	[04:24]
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asciilifeform	if before dr. mengele got to him - there was - certainly not after.	[04:26]
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TheNewDeal	I like this guy alreadh	[04:26]
asciilifeform	(likely that, in the future, folks will view today's medical profession in much the same light we see herr mengele)	[04:26]
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TheNewDeal	many currently do	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	medical profession maybe not, but the "mental health" "professionals" definitely.	[04:27]
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asciilifeform	by and large, they 'are only following orders' - as described by, e.g. TLP. but still.	[04:28]
TheNewDeal	tlp?	[04:29]
asciilifeform	;;google the last psychiatrist	[04:29]
gribble	The Last Psychiatrist: ; The Last Psychiatrist Archives: ; The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies?:	[04:29]
TheNewDeal	gribble quit it with the ">;" crap	[04:29]
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nubbins`	can't leave a dangling <	[04:31]
BingoBoingo	http://crazy-meds1.blogspot.com << this guy << His pre-CNS collapse occupation if you read deep enough, Big Iron Programmer.	[04:31]
assbot	Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection	[04:31]
nubbins`	makes sense	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform people hung for just following orders at nurnberg	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	one day people will hang for just following orders in what once was washington, dc, too.	[04:33]
asciilifeform	aye.	[04:33]
nubbins`	more for following the wrong ones	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo that's right.	[04:34]
nubbins`	which is why one should avoid being placed in situations where one can be easily ordered	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	just like turing.	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` naive copout that. you're always ordered.	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	the only solution is to pick a good sovereign and stick to it.	[04:34]
nubbins`	or rather, where the enforcing of said ordering is a common occurrence	[04:35]
asciilifeform	'you commit atrocities with the sovereign you have, not the sovereign you wish you had.' (apologies to mr bush)	[04:35]
nubbins`	unfortunately, picking a good sovereign likely requires you to pass through the hands of the worst sovereign of them all (int'l border control)	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	maybe	[04:36]
asciilifeform	good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	;;google "is a source of immense satisfaction to me"	[04:39]
gribble	Use immense in a sentence \| immense sentence examples: ; It gives me immense pleasure to inform all the members and ...: ; Immense \| Define Immense at Dictionary.com:	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	check it out, google has managed to erase history. the only winner of nurenberg doesn't exist in the brave new world.	[04:39]
asciilifeform	lol	[04:39]
Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu, are you ordered too ?	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	no, i'm an asshole.	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal << this reduces to saying there's nothing to live for.	[04:41]
asciilifeform	some of us live for the unicorn hunt.	[04:41]
nubbins`	the meat is so tasty	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Okapi2.jpg	[04:42]
asciilifeform	even should it be necessary to genetically diddle goats to obtain said beast	[04:42]
nubbins`	i've seen one of those in person	[04:42]
nubbins`	in uh	[04:42]
nubbins`	in mammal	[04:42]
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nubbins`	meanwhile, in vancouver: http://i.imgur.com/qKcGpzi.jpg	[04:43]
TheNewDeal	hahaha	[04:44]
asciilifeform	can't dig it up in nature? build. unless we have hands solely to jack off with.	[04:44]
TheNewDeal	most definitely the latter	[04:44]
asciilifeform	dovetails nicely with the discussion of recombinant cocain-excreting e.coli.	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	lol such dude	[04:45]
TheNewDeal	gimme somma dat	[04:45]
moiety	http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/rolf-steiner-cow-gets-stuck-on-roof-in-swiss-alps-4764420/	[04:47]
assbot	Rolf Steiner: Cow gets stuck on roof near Swiss Alps \| Metro News	[04:47]
moiety	this cow needs some time in the park	[04:47]
nubbins`	cow chilling park	[04:49]
BingoBoingo	Suggested sidebar link http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/ouch-man-slaps-an-opossum-gets-a-handful-of-400-porcupine-quills-4765333/	[04:50]
assbot	Brazilian man slaps an opossum, gets a handful of 400 porcupine quills \| Metro News	[04:50]
asciilifeform	philosophy of building with own hands >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji4t6QQn8KM << english translation in 'show more' tab	[04:50]
assbot	- /You are a Man ( ) - YouTube	[04:50]
moiety	oh nubbins`, i watched quite a few films when i was internetless. This is really good: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242460/ (also shutter island and inception but i think i'm the only one in the world who hadn't seen those yet)	[04:51]
assbot	We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011) - IMDb	[04:51]
moiety	how on earth did that man get the two confused	[04:52]
[]bot	Bet created: "Suarez to stay at Liverpool" http://bitbet.us/bet/949/	[04:53]
TheNewDeal	and inception returns to mediocrity after you watch it a couple more times	[04:53]
TheNewDeal	was great the first time, good the second, ...	[04:54]
moiety	i don't understand how anyone could have found it confusing	[04:54]
TheNewDeal	most people are... stupid?	[04:54]
moiety	fair point	[04:54]
TheNewDeal	or lack attention spans that last 120+ minutes	[04:54]
TheNewDeal	some combination	[04:54]
moiety	most people don't watch memento the full way through or complain it doesn't make sense either	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell organofcorti nice site btw	[04:55]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	http://organofcorti.blogspot.com << he's like the mike_c of mining	[04:56]
assbot	Neighbourhood Pool Watch	[04:56]
BingoBoingo	And he's been doing it for quite a while	[04:57]
nubbins`	http://i.imgur.com/BxIRSGj.jpg	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo kinda how one gets good yeah	[04:57]
TheNewDeal	moiety momento was quality	[04:58]
moiety	i thought so too TheNewDeal	[05:02]
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[]bot	Bet created: "A pool will have at least 51% of the Bitcoin network" http://bitbet.us/bet/950/	[05:07]
TheNewDeal	ridiculous http://kotaku.com/decades-later-someones-discovered-a-new-super-mario-br-1591884544?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow	[05:08]
assbot	Decades Later, Someone's Discovered a New Super Mario Bros. Glitch	[05:08]
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TheNewDeal	so does that 51% have to occur over a week time period?	[05:10]
TheNewDeal	faack gotta go to sleep	[05:11]
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[]bot	Bet created: "Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza" http://bitbet.us/bet/951/	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla o look at that, 179:144	[05:14]
kakobrekla	you will never reach my registration date!	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	damn	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	I WAS BUSY THAT MAY DAMNIT	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	;;bc,stats	[05:16]
gribble	Current Blocks: 306422 \| Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 \| Next Difficulty In: 9 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 11 minutes, and 36 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 13448095222.7 \| Estimated Percent Change: 14.38809	[05:16]
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mircea_popescu	sooo 14 seems certain huh.	[05:18]
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mike_c	unless.. http://bitbet.us/bet/871/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall-in-2014/	[05:18]
assbot	BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (62%) on Yes, 0.81 B (38%) on No \| closing in 6 months 1 day\| weight: 91`228 (100`000 to 1)	[05:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21959695 = 1.5372 BTC [+] {3}	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	yeah i guess.	[05:24]
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BingoBoingo	http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/did-la-kings-fans-take-out-lapd-drone-during-stanley-cup-party-135942533.html	[05:30]
assbot	Did LA Kings fans take out LAPD drone during Stanley Cup party? \| Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports	[05:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00082669 = 4.7741 BTC [+]	[05:31]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/kncminer-expects-ship-20nm-week/	[05:42]
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mike_c	hmph. well, maybe 14 is for sure :)	[05:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.0000985 = 1.4775 BTC [-] {2}	[05:46]
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mircea_popescu	knc kinda delivers don't they	[05:57]
BingoBoingo	Often broken and shitty product, but yeah	[05:58]
asciilifeform	miner... delivers << still seems analogous to... if toilet paper were always shipped lightly-used.	[05:59]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[06:00]
cazalla	knc bet might just get there heh	[06:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8885 @ 0.00082679 = 7.346 BTC [+] {2}	[06:04]
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benkay	http://nsapwn.com	[06:22]
assbot	NSA Pwnage Calculator	[06:22]
asciilifeform	benkay: related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9OGmaGwoo << translation: 'who is stronger? elephant, or whale?'	[06:24]
assbot	- YouTube	[06:24]
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trinque	benkay: that makes me think govt control of BTC is hard to avoid	[06:37]
Mats_cd03	21:29 <•TheNewDeal> gribble quit it with the ">;" crap << your client sucks, mine parses it correctly	[06:38]
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Mats_cd03	;;bc,stats	[06:41]
gribble	Current Blocks: 306432 \| Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 \| Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 24 minutes, and 19 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 53850340580.2 \| Estimated Percent Change: 300.00015	[06:41]
Mats_cd03	lol?	[06:41]
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Mats_cd03	;;math 1.3462^1.04	[06:46]
gribble	Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462^1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin.	[06:46]
Mats_cd03	;;math 1.3462**1.04	[06:46]
gribble	Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462**1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin.	[06:46]
Mats_cd03	fuck you	[06:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.00082725 = 3.8583 BTC [+]	[06:53]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43350 @ 0.0008237 = 35.7074 BTC [-] {3}	[08:18]
moiety	http://lovemeow.com/2014/06/cat-and-lynx-become-inseparable-friends/ :D	[08:18]
assbot	Cat And Lynx Become Inseparable Friends	[08:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 500 @ 0.00227025 = 1.1351 BTC [+] {3}	[08:26]
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Apocalyptic	;;calc 1.3462**1.04	[08:30]
gribble	1.36230380511	[08:30]
Apocalyptic	Mats_cd03, ^	[08:30]
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FabianB	mircea_popescu: jurov: it should do bait << it should do mp approved bait. <-- it kind of does now, even probably not what you expected	[08:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2980 @ 0.00082725 = 2.4652 BTC [+]	[09:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20023447 = 0.6007 BTC [-] {2}	[09:18]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[11:13]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.	[11:13]
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pankkake	"their technical skills and abilities are pretty well proven" => same was said about kslaugther, presented as some rock star entrepreneur and engineer (when he was neither)	[11:14]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony neobee TYPES mind you.	[11:15]
mircea_popescu	these schmucks have sunk in the research and classifieds the typology nao.	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	the archetype of the neobee being, of course, that antonoderpulous guy.	[11:16]
Apocalyptic	pankkake, so was Zhou	[11:17]
fluffypony	yeah	[11:19]
fluffypony	well I had my say on the thread	[11:19]
fluffypony	and, of course, jimmothy is being retarded: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.msg7375512#msg7375512	[11:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container	[11:19]
pankkake	his blind hate for anything MP	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	wait im involved ?	[11:20]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: I dared to mention that a WoT presence might be a good starting point	[11:20]
jurov	"it was pretty hard to not reach a positive ROI by now with most asics." this doesn't have anything to do with mp	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	lol how's wot mp related	[11:21]
Apocalyptic	fluffypony, "Additionally, don't confuse the possibility of them being fiat profitable with them being Bitcoin profitable" too many derps don't distinguish between the two and will generally eagerly settle for the former	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	also most asics actually got no +roi.	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	$bait	[11:21]
pankkake	I don't mean made by MP	[11:21]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic that's a problem, yeah.	[11:22]
pankkake	!up Vexual	[11:22]
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mircea_popescu	the stupidity of people holding bitcoin is the one thing that can hurt bitcoin (as evidenced by say the pirate debacle, or by the fact that a million fucktarded stoners managed to give the usg a gift of 20k ish btcs)	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	luckily that tends to be a self-limiting problem	[11:22]
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mircea_popescu	FabianB how does it do bait ?	[11:23]
pankkake	I hope you're right	[11:23]
mircea_popescu	pankkake well, it's finite see. the only way they can do something stupid in the first place is by giving it away	[11:23]
mircea_popescu	that's the definition of self limiting	[11:23]
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mircea_popescu	Vexual: can't afford it ? << actually, they could, they just dun want to.	[11:24]
mircea_popescu	moiety: what will happen next? <<< probably us court will try to confiscate various argentine assets in various countries, further straining its relations with the world.	[11:24]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic: I wonder how much US sent them back so far << the us had more sense than to put a clause in there that the matter is to be judged according to frankfurt law.	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	"They have something better than WOT. Real names and real business experience." ahahaha help me rwanda.	[11:26]
fluffypony	I know	[11:26]
Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu, in the meantime i read that they are planning to get 50% back to frankfurt in a matter of seven years or so	[11:26]
Apocalyptic	so it's too soon to tell how it's going	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic they're also planning tobalance the budget	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	over about the same timeframe	[11:27]
mircea_popescu	or wait, was that, they're planning to actually send congress a budget at all, like required by law ?	[11:27]
Apocalyptic	Vexual: can't afford it ? << actually, they could, they just dun want to. // yeah they could at the expense of roughly half their USD reserves	[11:30]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony " Given how reliant this company is on paying backend costs in fiat" I don't follow this part.	[11:30]
mircea_popescu	why would fiat costs pose a problem ? it's quite clear why fiat revenues are a problem for reits etc, but costs ?	[11:30]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic right.	[11:30]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: in other words, if they were paying staff and rent in Bitcoin they could present a business plan with amounts in Bitcoin	[11:30]
fluffypony	but they're reliant on the exchange-rate-at-the-time costs are due	[11:31]
mircea_popescu	so ?	[11:31]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-28/	[11:32]
assbot	How to fail gracefully as a Bitcoin business	[11:32]
fluffypony	having fiat-denominated expenses is not in and of itself bad, but they're going to sink virtually the entire amount into fiat costs up-front	[11:33]
fluffypony	to pay for equipment etc. etc.	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	o well say it like that then	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	that makes sense.	[11:33]
fluffypony	-1 point for fluffyclarity	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	"by investing in this company you're buying chunks of a dollar-denominated investment, because they mostly plan to sell your bitcoin and pay off fiat costs."	[11:34]
fluffypony	yarp	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	it's funny tho, that completely disqualifies thyem from any sort of experience or competence in the field	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	quite contrary to that derps claims.	[11:34]
mircea_popescu	luckily we have years of amassed history and discussion to establish what competence/experience are, what they do and how they look like.	[11:35]
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mircea_popescu	Mark Serbu told us, “I refused to sell my rifles to the NYPD, and when I talked about it online, it blew up like crazy. Everybody liked the idea of a gun law biting the government on the ass. There are only two manufacturers of semi-automatic 50-caliber rifles in the US, and neither will sell to the NYPD. This is like, ‘Screw you, New York.’ People are less safe without our rifles to protect you.	[11:39]
mircea_popescu	i had no idea they used the barrett as an anti-personnel device on the streets of the asphalt jungle	[11:40]
mircea_popescu	the army mostly uses it to blow up explosives iirc	[11:41]
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BingoBoingo	Also works on trucks	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	i guess it'd work on anything short of a tank	[11:42]
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BingoBoingo	Pretty much anything not specifically designed to prevent it working, with exception as defined by the laws of physics (mountains, clouds, the sun...)	[11:45]
mircea_popescu	i suppose the wanna-be cool dorks love it because it's so BIG and it looks JUST LIKE IN TH MOVIES OMAYGAWD	[11:46]
mircea_popescu	god help you if you have to use the thing indoors tho	[11:46]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony btw that article is quite useful	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	but srsly, make better urls.	[11:49]
fluffypony	I have already, will go fix past articles a bit later	[11:49]
mircea_popescu	a cool.	[11:50]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: But expensive things with niche uses when less expensive more general purpose tools of quality are available is the American way!!!	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	One thing to note is that, generally speaking, a Bitcoin/altcoin mining operation is strictly profitable from a fiat perspective. Anyone who thinks they’re profitable from a BTC perspective needs to take a cold, hard look at the data for the past few years, and needs to couple the historical data with the inevitable delays when pre-ordering mining equipment. << this is quite true.	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin mining is a perfect avenue for large players to dodge tax, whcih is why the hash is going quite so nuts.	[11:50]
fluffypony	yes	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	rack up the fiat expenses so you don't make a profit, take the bitcoin home.	[11:51]
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fluffypony	but it serves no practical purpose as an investment vehicle for those already holding Bitcoin (or who are buying Bitcoin on a monthly basis with their fiat earnings)	[11:51]
mircea_popescu	on top of that there's some... maybe 1-2% by now, amateurs that get to jerkoff to the thought that they're "just as much a part of bitcoin AS ANYONE"	[11:51]
mircea_popescu	they used to be 10% earlier this year. then again they used to be 100% a coupla years ago	[11:52]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo only recently. didn't use to be.	[11:52]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves so is atc taking over the ltc role ?	[11:53]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: American's didn't have the too much money problem until recently though (1950's) Kids who grew up with that mindset run the show nao though... or at least imagine they do	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	sad but true	[11:54]
BingoBoingo	All of these people who grew up when the rest of the world was crippled now imagine it still is.	[11:55]
BingoBoingo	%book	[11:55]
atcbot	35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 \| 5k@150 49k@143 175k@142	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	how did the volume go again ?	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	%help	[11:56]
atcbot	%t \| %ticker \| %book \| %diff \| %tx \| %bal \| %mined \| %block \| %lb \| %tslb \| %cm \| %ptp \| %help \| %h	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	%t	[11:56]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 150 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	aha	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	%diff	[11:56]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 430638.11 in 667 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.80	[11:56]
Apocalyptic	it's in quiet mode before the diff retarget	[11:56]
Apocalyptic	will bring the hoppers back	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	seems so yeah.	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	funny tho the lockstep way it works. 1k - 4k - 1.5k - 5k - 2k - 7k - 5k diff sort of thing	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	seems the hopper's "optimisation" is nothing but a dream in their head	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	since they'll be counting the "high" 5k as "low" six weeks later anyway	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	might as well just have mined all through.	[11:57]
Apocalyptic	well the hooper's "optimisation" is disturbed by unbalanced's plan somehow	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	course this is a fact people who aren't familiar with atc history probably easily miss.	[11:58]
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Apocalyptic	dunno if he started earlier than this diff period though	[11:58]
BingoBoingo	%t	[11:58]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic i suspect it's only disrupted by the fact that atc has the sort of backing that makes it not go anywhere. it's nailed straight to the sun as it were.	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	this bit of info'd quite change the optimisation, if they had it.	[11:59]
BingoBoingo	%book	[11:59]
atcbot	35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 \| 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150	[11:59]
Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu, it may well be so	[11:59]
Apocalyptic	http://www.boursorama.com/actualites/pour-la-cour-des-comptes-il-faut-baisser-le-nombre-de-fonctionnaires-ba3764c288078d33b05b57007f1062dc	[12:00]
assbot	Pour la Cour des comptes, il faut baisser le nombre de fonctionnaires	[12:00]
Apocalyptic	french people finally wake up	[12:00]
BingoBoingo	%t	[12:01]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 201 Last Price: 160 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156	[12:01]
mircea_popescu	hahaha	[12:01]
mircea_popescu	how many are they anyway ? 20mn ?	[12:01]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker	[12:01]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 607.51, Best ask: 609.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.49000, Last trade: 609.0, 24 hour volume: 8473.12848309, 24 hour low: 586.84, 24 hour high: 616.0, 24 hour vwap: 604.991375459	[12:01]
Apocalyptic	i wouldn't hazard a guess, too much for sure	[12:01]
pankkake	Apocalyptic: la Cour des comptes has been saying smart things for years, and has been ignored all the way	[12:01]
Apocalyptic	yeah pankkake	[12:01]
pankkake	http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/les-intermittents-du-spectacle-occupent-la-cour-des-comptes_1499906.html	[12:02]
assbot	Les intermittents du spectacle occupent la Cour des comptes - L'Express	[12:02]
BingoBoingo	%tslb	[12:02]
atcbot	-9 minutes and 49 seconds	[12:02]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha	[12:02]
BingoBoingo	^ mod6 negative %tslb???	[12:02]
BingoBoingo	!b 3	[12:02]
assbot	Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/237PFCH.txt )	[12:02]
pankkake	(translation : highly subsidied fake artists occupy the Court of Accounts)	[12:02]
BingoBoingo	%book	[12:03]
atcbot	2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 \| 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150	[12:03]
BingoBoingo	http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/547767/unisys_phasing_decades-old_mainframe_processor_x86_chips/	[12:04]
assbot	Unisys phasing out decades-old mainframe processor for x86 chips - Computerworld	[12:04]
pankkake	http://boingboing.net/2014/06/16/i-stopped-a-10-million-dollar.html	[12:05]
assbot	I stopped a ten million dollar robbery - Boing Boing	[12:05]
jurov	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/03/the-secret-service-wants-software-that-detects-social-media-sarcasm-yeah-sure-it-will-work/	[12:05]
assbot	The Secret Service wants software that detects social media sarcasm. Yeah, sure it will work. - The Washington Post	[12:05]
jurov	"Ability to detect sarcasm and false positives," the request reads.	[12:06]
Apocalyptic	jurov, at this point it must be trolling	[12:07]
jurov	Apocalyptic why? i wouldn't put it past them?	[12:07]
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BingoBoingo	Maybe the headline is the test? Secret Service collecting references to it as data to feed the beast...	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves you need a comment permalink, because nao i can't say thestringpuller;'s got a prettry interesting comment up there at http://devilsadvocate.biz/crabs-in-the-bucket/?replytocom=75#respond	[12:09]
assbot	Crabs in the Bucket	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	i could use some people that reliably detect my sarcasm	[12:10]
BingoBoingo	It's a hard problem in text	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	it's a hard problem irl, too.	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	ajhahaha that robbery link above :	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	Bill said, “We’ll lend $10 million IF we get the full $25 million on any default.” Here were the other terms Bill said.	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	- 15% interest, paid quarterly	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	- the full loan is due back in two years	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	- $600,000 fee paid to Bill up front.	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	- Bill wanted 25% of all the upside on the full $25 million in shares for the next ten years.	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	now THATs robbery.	[12:12]
BingoBoingo	How was the borrower agreeing to that not a red flag that they were a fake	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	it kinda is.	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the post sounds legit. it's pretty much how something like that'd go.	[12:15]
BingoBoingo	Kinda the Roger Ver story, except he still praises and pays the loons that fleece him	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	“I have an idea,” I said, “I know the guy who wrote that letter. I’ll write to him and ask him if he wrote that letter. This way he independently verifies.” << the wot.	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	quote that to forum derp. this is exactly what we fucking do here, day in, day out.	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2014#708635	[12:17]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[12:17]
pankkake	!up Vexual	[12:17]
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pankkake	Vexual: why still not on the wot?	[12:17]
BingoBoingo	fluffypony: Also get rid of that discus shit	[12:17]
pankkake	not that you could be easily faked	[12:17]
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fluffypony	BingoBoingo: I hate all the other jekyll comment plugins	[12:17]
BingoBoingo	fluffypony: Just have a send all comments to X@Y.Z email address	[12:18]
fluffypony	too much like hard work	[12:18]
fluffypony	:-P	[12:18]
fluffypony	I'll see if there's something new out for jekyll that is non-JS-ish	[12:18]
BingoBoingo	Or... Just use Wordpress comments	[12:18]
fluffypony	I will never install Wordpress again. EVER.	[12:18]
BingoBoingo	Not the whole thing, just the comment form	[12:19]
pankkake	I've seen some automated systems to do it, finally. proper comments was the only thing I would miss with a static blog	[12:19]
pankkake	I haven't tried those yet though	[12:19]
fluffypony	there's this: https://github.com/mpalmer/jekyll-static-comments	[12:19]
assbot	mpalmer/jekyll-static-comments GitHub	[12:19]
fluffypony	not wild about it, tho	[12:19]
BingoBoingo	;;google site:trilema.com the hottest idea in bitcoin	[12:20]
gribble	Probably the hottest business idea of the moment in BTC… pe ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Some basic discussion of Bitcoin macroeconomy pe Trilema - Un ...:	[12:20]
fluffypony	oh this is something I never noticed: https://blog.caurea.org/2012/03/31/this-blog-has-comments-again.html	[12:20]
assbot	caurea.org	[12:20]
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fluffypony	it does an email address per post	[12:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2199997 = 1.1 BTC [+]	[12:20]
fluffypony	will take a looksie again when I have time	[12:20]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#719018 to go with above link	[12:21]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[12:21]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony: Also get rid of that discus shit << srsly.	[12:21]
BingoBoingo	The reason to use wordpress is that it's the standard. Doing it right is hard, but all of the usefull standards are.	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	he's prolly tried wp past 1.x and got burned by how shitty it is	[12:22]
BingoBoingo	2.X for some values of X isn't bad. Same with 3.X with caveat, that for some values of X.	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md2bx746Pd1r2b8jbo1_400.jpg << trap house!	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo ya i meat 2 not 1 my bad	[12:23]
fluffypony	;;ping	[12:23]
gribble	pong	[12:23]
fluffypony	so I asked Jimmy Boy: "I'll turn that around and ask you to list 3 mining operations that were Bitcoin profitable. To simplify, you can just list the asset, what the IPO share price was, and what BTC dividends to date would have been for 1 BTC invested."	[12:24]
fluffypony	to which he responds: "Petamine, asicminer, 100th mine, and most people who bought bfl hardware, AM hardware, knc hardware, bitmain hardware, a1 clones, avalon hardware, bitfury hardware."	[12:24]
fluffypony	apparently buying hardware == investing in an asset.	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony he went to the us school of diversive argumentation.	[12:24]
fluffypony	and apparently "The whole internet is a web of trust."	[12:25]
fluffypony	he didn't read my comments AT ALL	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	serious politician : "name one policy your demagogy implemented that served the public"	[12:25]
fluffypony	stupid fucktard.	[12:25]
BingoBoingo	fluffypony: Maybe ask why hes till isn't Bitrich	[12:25]
pankkake	100th mine was profitable?	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	twerp : "guncontrolobamacareglobalwarmingsmokingbanclimatechangederpyherpyderpderpherp"	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	costs him about 100x less to run the mouth than it costs you, and so... he's using it.	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	this is why, incidentally, giving people a voice is such a bad idea.	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	the only thing it yields is a vicious circle of ever decreasing marginal investment in speech	[12:27]
pankkake	also people who bought bfl profited?!	[12:27]
mircea_popescu	what a healthy society needs are lemon laws for speech.	[12:27]
fluffypony	lemon laws!	[12:28]
xmj	mircea_popescu: lemon laws?	[12:28]
xmj	as in, The Market For Lemons ?	[12:28]
xmj!@	added to ignore list.	[12:29]
mircea_popescu	problem with trying to implement that however is that it's too fucking sweet for whoever's in charge to hijack it into oppression of dissent	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	so basically society only works for as long as society enforces some sort of equivalent by itself. which is also why there can never be a society of "laws not men".	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	men are needed to keep language meaningful.	[12:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7724 @ 0.00008136 = 0.6284 BTC [-] {6}	[12:33]
BingoBoingo	Sorta like the dilema by which Bitcoin is great for a well lawed and ordered society yet incredibly hostile to regulation	[12:33]
mircea_popescu	well you can't cutthe knife	[12:33]
BingoBoingo	Plenty of tools cut knives.	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	sure. but nothing cuts itself. evntually you get to a prime mover.	[12:35]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin can't be regulated because it regulates you.	[12:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00082119 = 7.7192 BTC [-]	[12:36]
BingoBoingo	Cake cutting for the lonely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBU9N35ZHIw	[12:37]
assbot	The Scientific Way to Cut a Cake - YouTube	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ?	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	or so common & obvious it really doesn't need a word for itself	[12:40]
fluffypony	a pie chart is called a camembert chart in French?	[12:40]
fluffypony	awesome	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	hehehe	[12:40]
BingoBoingo	The latter it seems from my limited knowledge	[12:40]
pankkake	fluffypony: fun thing, it's called just "un camembert", not even "graphe en camembert"	[12:41]
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mircea_popescu	imo this should be backported to english	[12:41]
fluffypony	agreed	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	"his camemberts looked like blocks of fucking swiss"	[12:42]
fluffypony	hah hah	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i wonder how they manage to shoot videos tbh. if i were living the limited lifespan of a rappar, i couldn't give less of a shit as to what tv convntions are.	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	all my videos feature shots of the nekkid ladies	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	must seem so fucken plastic & fake. "whyz dese bitches dresst anyway?!?!"	[12:43]
pankkake	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoop_Dogg%27s_Doggystyle	[12:44]
assbot	Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[12:44]
FabianB	<+mircea_popescu> FabianB how does it do bait ? <-- not exactly, i mean this:	[12:44]
FabianB	$depth mpoe	[12:44]
empyex	FabianB: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=91 Or use a valid MPSIC!	[12:44]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets bash	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	aok	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	but pankkake ... why'z dem bitchez dresst ?!	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	also wtf shitty chopjob	[12:46]
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BingoBoingo	!up Vexual	[12:49]
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BingoBoingo	;;bc,stats	[12:50]
gribble	Current Blocks: 306472 \| Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 \| Next Difficulty In: 1975 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 31 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 13957917818.7 \| Estimated Percent Change: 3.67937	[12:50]
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BingoBoingo	http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/#c3100	[12:53]
assbot	BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.19 B (57%) on Yes, 0.14 B (43%) on No \| closed 13 hours 27 minutes ago	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo it god paid out already neh ?	[12:56]
BingoBoingo	Yeah, amazing how sometimes events make the errors irrelevant.	[12:56]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	:p	[12:57]
BingoBoingo	I was kinda hoping Ghana would have won that one	[12:58]
BingoBoingo	American Cities are now more valuable as set pieces than as functioning locations http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/06/transformers_premake_documentary_age_of_extinction_inspires_guerrilla_video.html	[13:01]
assbot	Transformers Premake documentary: Age of Extinction inspires guerrilla video essay (VIDEO).	[13:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.21999999 = 2.64 BTC [+] {3}	[13:01]
BingoBoingo	Detroit and Chicago are cheaper stand ins for China than... China	[13:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.23955234 = 15.3313 BTC [+] {6}	[13:03]
mircea_popescu	hahaha	[13:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.245 = 2.45 BTC [+] {2}	[13:04]
BingoBoingo	Jimmothy http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/06/1207-am.html	[13:06]
assbot	Doctor Grumpy in the House: 12:07 a.m.	[13:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.24384615 = 6.34 BTC [-] {2}	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha epic	[13:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00082825 = 10.5188 BTC [+] {2}	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	"I was shaking. We had spoken to Evil on the phone." ahaha dude how fucking overdramatic can altucher get.	[13:12]
mircea_popescu	a fraudster stands to evil in the relationship an army major stands to the government.	[13:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.22000065 = 2.2 BTC [-] {3}	[13:14]
BingoBoingo	I dunno if even a Madoff level fraudster makes it as an officer candidate in the Evil Army	[13:16]
mircea_popescu	well what is evil army ?	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	evil is traditionally used as the catchall for anything anyone perceives as contrarian or enmitous and isn't readily reducible.	[13:17]
BingoBoingo	Well, in the heirarchy I imagine Pol Pot makes Colnel... barely	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	davout http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/16/the-security-fail-blockchain-wont-tell-you-about/ << good points, but the blockchain wallet usecase isn't storying a lot of btc.	[13:18]
assbot	The security fail blockchain won’t tell you about \| fr.anco.is	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	actually pretty much the only usecase i'm aware of is when you want to do basically the equivalent of issuing yourself a limited preloaded card.	[13:19]
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mircea_popescu	i never use the cards associated with my various business accounts, ever. but if they came with a diy kit where i could create my own subcards, preload them and discard them... maybe, just maybe.	[13:20]
fluffypony	I've been wanting the same	[13:20]
mircea_popescu	irk ?	[13:20]
fluffypony	even if it's only creating virtual cards initially	[13:20]
fluffypony	load amounts in	[13:20]
BingoBoingo	Yeah, a decent low fee prepaid card is basically a money condom	[13:20]
fluffypony	and use them online for a month or two	[13:20]
mircea_popescu	no fucking way am i sharing an account that may well have fiddy million in it with some random guy with a pony tail in whatever restaurant	[13:20]
fluffypony	and then abandon them	[13:20]
mircea_popescu	no matter how ridiculous counting fiddy hundred dollar bills may look to the sort of people i don't fuck anyway	[13:21]
BingoBoingo	!b 1	[13:21]
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mircea_popescu	people do stupid sht like that all the time, too.	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	ever want to get a kickass car ? it's simple : buy a red jacket and a cap, sit by the entrance to an expensive restaurant	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	you'll get a free ferrari in five minutes flat.	[13:22]
fluffypony	lol	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	guy just hands you the key and walks off.	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	"o, he thought you were the vallet". well that's fine, you thought he was santa.	[13:23]
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mircea_popescu	as joelkatz would say, "common misunderstanding"	[13:24]
BingoBoingo	!b 6	[13:25]
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mircea_popescu	Yiannis Chrysanthou, a security researcher who recently completed his MSc thesis on modern password cracking, was able to crack the password "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn1."	[13:29]
mircea_popescu	fuck me that sounds scary	[13:29]
mircea_popescu	up until you realise some total dork took a line off lovercraft, as-is.	[13:29]
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jurov	http://explo.yt/post/2014/02/26/Bruce-Schneier-passwords-fail exactly as i wrote	[13:31]
assbot	Bruce Schneier passwords fail - serialized delusions	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	ayup	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	!up ansc	[13:31]
-assbot-	You voiced ansc for 30 minutes.	[13:31]
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mircea_popescu	;;google romanian dicelist	[13:31]
gribble	Romanian Dicelist pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Climax pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; On Making High-Entropy Paper Wallets \| When Bitcoin Met Pete:	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	i really recommend that thing. fucking special characters rock for the purpose.	[13:31]
jurov	!up Vexual	[13:33]
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Vexual	hehe	[13:34]
jurov	!down Vexual	[13:34]
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jurov	hehe	[13:34]
BingoBoingo	!up Vexual	[13:35]
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mircea_popescu	!b 7	[13:35]
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BingoBoingo	Bash hasn't updated in a while... is it on Mats_cd03's no poop pills?	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	lol	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	wasn't jurov modded ?	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	lazyboi!	[13:37]
jurov	!down mircea_popescu	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	you tryin' to go down on me ?	[13:38]
BingoBoingo	!b 2	[13:38]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=579498.msg6386721#msg6386721 << pretty epic shit.	[13:39]
assbot	[ANN] Altcoin Casinos \| Invest \| \| Bitcointa.lk	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	why's that guy not in here ?	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	someone invite him	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	"Due to the fake account troll below this post has been moved." ahahaha	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	;;rated fluffypony	[13:41]
gribble	You rated user fluffypony on Mon May 26 08:18:51 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: I don't know him but his wife sends me selfies..	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	;;rate fluffypony 2 Businessman that now owes me a steak.	[13:42]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user fluffypony has changed from 1 to 2.	[13:42]
fluffypony	lol	[13:43]
ansc	mp: what are your thoughts on icbit.se ?	[13:44]
mircea_popescu	;;google trilema icbit.se	[13:45]
gribble	Icbit.se, the bucket shop pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Security Comparison of Bitcoin-Denominated Instruments ... - Trilema: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.:	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	that's a year or two old by now. perhaps things changed. not sure why they would have.	[13:45]
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mircea_popescu	ahahaah that thread just gives and gives and gives.	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	should be fucking framed. " Are you finished? Your wrong.", trhen guy goes back and edits it once it's pointed out	[13:47]
ansc	interesting piece. from that perspective, nothing has changed. no need to update. thank you for the link.	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	the boon #bitcoin-assets bestows upon they who come seeking wisdom is great indeed.	[13:49]
ansc	haha right. i must say i do agree.	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony what's the xxxprofit story ?	[13:49]
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BingoBoingo	%book	[13:51]
atcbot	2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 \| 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150	[13:51]
fluffypony	the dude seems like a reasonable guy, he's very open about that and the appliance thing being fiat businesses, but I think he's struggling to find anyone around him willing to invest because, hey, porn site	[13:52]
BingoBoingo	%ticker	[13:52]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 201 Last Price: 201 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 157	[13:52]
Vexual	link?	[13:52]
fluffypony	I told him to get on here and get in the WoT as it'll help with future ventures	[13:52]
punkman	https://icbit.se/node/69 always in beta (TM)	[13:52]
assbot	Price Calculation Fix \| ICBIT - Bitcoin Exchange and Futures Market	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	what, i love pron sites. heck, im STILL trying to get in touch with that pleasantly uninhibited chick from reddit.	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	whatver her namne was	[13:52]
mircea_popescu	;;notes	[13:52]
gribble	I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, buanzo, EricNakamoto, fbastage, frankenmint, Immukization, MurphyLawn, newyorkadam, nubbins, nubbins`i, organofcorti, Phinnaeus, plezoh, ryepdx, sic_nic, starsoccer9, ThickasTheives, unbalanced, and weenfan.	[13:52]
Vexual	lol lowecase me is gone	[13:53]
mircea_popescu	anarkitty. hey, this creates a new usecase for gribble. leave a note for osmeone, remember their name.	[13:53]
BingoBoingo	https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=639298.0	[13:59]
assbot	Full Dox: BTC-ARBS.COM (and their undeniable links to HYIPs) \| Bitcointa.lk	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo for what it's worth the dilemma is irreducible.	[14:02]
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BingoBoingo	!up ansc	[14:02]
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mircea_popescu	on one hand, the slipped up theory is convincing. on the other hand, the sort of scammer/internet fraudster depicted often tries to run a hosting business on the side	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	so it may be a clueless noob that got a GREAT webhosting offer	[14:02]
ansc	anyone seen this latest idiocy: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/290ed010-f567-11e3-91a8-00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=intl#axzz34snzDqLe	[14:03]
assbot	Financial Times \| Error \| Akamai Error	[14:03]
ansc	ok anyway, it's about the fed imposing exit fees on bond funds.	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	not surprising.	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	actually... i think it was predicted here months ago :p	[14:03]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: It is indeed astounding how the bad habits of both groups align this way	[14:03]
BingoBoingo	A and B are indistiguishable at x,y because they do the same thing at that point.	[14:05]
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BingoBoingo	!up Vexual	[14:05]
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BingoBoingo	I wonder if herbi will ever try his hand at ATC again	[14:07]
Vexual	didn't you take all his moneys?	[14:08]
BingoBoingo	Vexual: Sure, at the time, but noa his is busy with OMG acquisitions!!! in his most recent messages.	[14:08]
Mats_cd03	lol you're a douche	[14:09]
BingoBoingo	Mats_cd03: Douches are good, they are a force for cleansing	[14:09]
punkman	this curses stuff is enough to make me curse, but it's getting there: http://i.imgur.com/Jj0xIdi.png	[14:14]
fluffypony	punkman: looks great	[14:14]
Vexual	neato	[14:15]
BingoBoingo	Nice punkman	[14:15]
ansc	interesting that the odds are so much in favor of btc with brk/a trading @189k	[14:16]
punkman	now it tells me when I've already bet on a proposition and calculates the total along with hypothetical bets. Handy for topping up a bet	[14:17]
BingoBoingo	Nice	[14:17]
ansc	so one could calculate the implicit interest rate of btc based on these probabilities	[14:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8142 @ 0.00082492 = 6.7165 BTC [-]	[14:18]
BingoBoingo	ansc: Well, I think the tool being tried for the effort at large now is f.mpif	[14:21]
BingoBoingo	!mpif	[14:21]
assbot	BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021664 BTC (Total: 433.28 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-]	[14:21]
BingoBoingo	!jd mpif	[14:21]
assbot	Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 171.02517117 BTC; +0.16054045 BTC (+0.0940%) since last check 11h 38m 47s ago.	[14:21]
Naphex	BingoBoingo: we're going live with EUR/USD next week. will you be sticking to ron or going for EUR/USD?;p	[14:21]
punkman	did klye re-ipo?	[14:21]
BingoBoingo	punkman: We can all hope so	[14:21]
BingoBoingo	Naphex: It depends on how the book looks. I'll prolly announce the June or July statement if I've moved into that pairing or not, pending consultation with the general manager. I'll watch at for least weeks, emphasis plural, before making a decision.	[14:24]
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BingoBoingo	Naphex: In BTC/Fiat I am exceedingly cautions	[14:25]
BingoBoingo	I inhere the properties of cautions	[14:25]
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Naphex	probably best:p	[14:25]
BingoBoingo	Naphex: I'm trading by hand so any moves into fiat occur only when I'm awake and ready to put in a lower bid very soon after fulfillment. << As this in in the chan it is an official disclosure. Nao.. Good luck figuring out my sleep wake cycle... if there is a discernable one.	[14:28]
Naphex	i don't trade at all	[14:29]
BingoBoingo	I as mentioned before really didn't start until I beat herbi. Before I occasionally bet substituting exchanges for bookies.	[14:30]
Naphex	how are you likeing it doing it as a full time job?	[14:31]
Naphex	or not full time	[14:31]
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BingoBoingo	I do this pretty much as I mention in the statements. It's a thing... I do it. I'll offer a range of more than most actual work the lowest performing civil servants do, but still less than nubbins` when he is in extreme focused art mode. (I estimate that to be between 0 and all of the hours in a week)	[14:34]
thestringpuller	what hppened to pity the pool?	[14:35]
BingoBoingo	?	[14:36]
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thestringpuller	its down for me	[14:36]
thestringpuller	!up Vexual	[14:36]
BingoBoingo	%diff	[14:36]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 430092.04 in 660 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.88	[14:36]
BingoBoingo	Really?	[14:36]
thestringpuller	yea	[14:36]
BingoBoingo	%tslb	[14:36]
atcbot	21 minutes and 6 seconds	[14:36]
thestringpuller	can you reach atc.pitythepool.com	[14:36]
BingoBoingo	I wouldn't know how. My fumbling attemps at mining never met going to a pool	[14:37]
BingoBoingo	http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/06/17/sen_claire_mccaskill_dissects_dr_oz_for_weight_loss_scams.html	[14:38]
assbot	Sen. Claire McCaskill dissects Dr. Oz for weight loss scams.	[14:38]
BingoBoingo	http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6973365/i-cant-believe-they-made-trophies-for-these-things	[14:44]
assbot	I Can't Believe They Made Trophies For These Things - CollegeHumor Post	[14:44]
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BingoBoingo	I think one of the most important moments of my development was when as a child I learned the trophie store is an actual place	[14:45]
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cazalla	that's a memory i have too.. i use to play soccer, cherished the ribbons and trophies, figured out you could buy yourself the biggest and engrave anything for doing nothing killed the motivation to play	[14:47]
Naphex	cazalla: the trick to being pro is getting paid to play :)	[14:49]
Naphex	not trophies	[14:49]
Naphex	you can scam trophies on everything :P	[14:50]
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cazalla	i actually played with a pro, he got dumped from the aussie team this world cup though	[14:50]
cazalla	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Wilkshire	[14:50]
assbot	Luke Wilkshire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[14:50]
cazalla	he bought me a he-man for my 7th birthday party	[14:50]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: I took away that anyone can have anything engraved and realized you can conceal success.	[14:52]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/social/lov-moneda-virtuala-a-tiganilor-pe-care-nu-stiu-s-o-foloseasca-ce-stiu-romii-din-stefanesti-despre-banul-de-pe-internet.html	[14:52]
assbot	"Ce sa facem noi cu loveaua?". Moneda tiganeasca de pe internet pe care supusii lui Cioaba nici nu stiu sa o foloseasca	[14:52]
Naphex	a must see :))	[14:52]
Naphex	Romanian Gypsy king releases gypsy coin	[14:53]
Naphex	called LOV	[14:53]
Naphex	:))	[14:53]
Naphex	cryptocurrency :)	[14:53]
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fluffypony	lol really?	[15:04]
fluffypony	that's hilarious	[15:04]
Naphex	Gypsy King said next month he has meeting with US VP	[15:04]
Naphex	and his gonna mention LOVECoin	[15:05]
Naphex	they want it recognized like baitcoin	[15:05]
Naphex	true story	[15:05]
Naphex	watch the video:P	[15:06]
BingoBoingo	too late http://www.cryptodefense.org/#!mission/cerb	[15:07]
assbot	The Cryptocurrency Defense Foundation	[15:08]
BingoBoingo	The abject poverty of too much money http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/06/18/nasa_funding_new_senate_bill_will_keep_us_relying_on_russians_for_rides.html	[15:11]
assbot	NASA funding: New Senate bill will keep us relying on Russians for rides to space.	[15:11]
pankkake	"us"	[15:12]
Naphex	http://www.cryptodefense.org/#!mission/cerb	[15:18]
Naphex	sry bad key :o	[15:19]
punkman	lolpatents	[15:21]
punkman	'Amazon patents 1-click blockchain transaction'	[15:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9061 @ 0.0008265 = 7.4889 BTC [+]	[15:38]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0687777 = 1.7194 BTC [-]	[15:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.069 = 1.794 BTC [+]	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	Naphex ahahaha	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	nice punkman	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	what hppened to pity the pool? << ddos wars raging	[16:21]
mircea_popescu	peterl has an excellent point here http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-d-series/#comment-101367	[16:25]
assbot	Introducing the D. series pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	all sorts of arbitrages suddenly open	[16:25]
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ThickAsThieves	[04:54] <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves so is atc taking over the ltc role ? /// well it should take over the role of all other coins of no distinction	[16:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0008265 = 6.0335 BTC [+]	[16:39]
ThickAsThieves	<+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves you need a comment permalink ///hrm, i'm not sure how to enable such ... ?	[16:47]
ThickAsThieves	<+mircea_popescu> incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? /// gold digger, groupie, slut -- i'm not sure proper word exists, not that this is even a common thing	[16:50]
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ThickAsThieves	Sent 1 week, 0 days, 11 hours, and 38 minutes ago: Altcoin is holding me back. /// hehe, how can i help?	[16:58]
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chetty	http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/us-patent-office-cancels-redskins-trademark-registration-says-name-is-disparaging/2014/06/18/e7737bb8-f6ee-11e3-8aa9-dad2ec039789_story.html	[17:08]
assbot	U.S. Patent office cancels Redskins trademark registration, says name is disparaging - The Washington Post	[17:08]
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bitcoinpete	chetty speaking of bad words: he/she	[17:12]
bitcoinpete	http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/17/vancouver-school-boards-genderless-pronouns-not-likely-to-stick-if-history-is-any-indication/?__federated=1	[17:12]
assbot	Vancouver School Board’s genderless pronouns xe, xem, xyr not likely to stick, if history is any indication \| National Post	[17:12]
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nubbins`	"a woman in her 20s that spends her life"	[17:15]
thestringpuller	nubbins`: do you have a tracking number for the shirt btw?	[17:15]
nubbins`	chetty: cue the "counterfeit" redskins jerseys / memorabilia	[17:16]
nubbins`	thestringpuller: sorry, was waiting a couple days to see if more orders came in. shirt's getting printed today. tracking is too costly, most people opt out	[17:17]
nubbins`	you can add it if you like tho, i think it's around an extra $10	[17:17]
thestringpuller	ah	[17:18]
thestringpuller	we can discuss, i like tracking	[17:18]
nubbins`	$20 shipping for $15 shirt :D	[17:20]
nubbins`	oh and hey, did you say you wanted the #b-a / freenode text on the back?	[17:21]
chetty	re:redskins decision// que the counterfeit everything, trademarks just became a joke	[17:23]
nubbins`	;;calc just became XD	[17:24]
gribble	Error: invalid syntax (, line 1)	[17:24]
nubbins`	i mean, uh	[17:24]
nubbins`	just became XD	[17:24]
mike_c	who is 'rethink-your-strategy'? that is some skilled trolling.	[17:29]
mike_c	pankkake?	[17:29]
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pankkake	no	[17:30]
nubbins`	http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/17/vancouver-school-boards-genderless-pronouns-not-likely-to-stick-if-history-is-any-indication/?__federated=1	[17:31]
assbot	Vancouver School Board’s genderless pronouns xe, xem, xyr not likely to stick, if history is any indication \| National Post	[17:31]
pankkake	"We are approve of this message." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.msg7378988#msg7378988	[17:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container	[17:32]
pankkake	nubbins`: French would drive them mad	[17:33]
nubbins`	ils seraient rendus fous XD	[17:35]
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nubbins`	"they" generally works but would sound odd in a group setting	[17:37]
bitcoinpete	nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#723409	[17:37]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[17:37]
nubbins`	ah haha i'm a dickhead	[17:38]
pankkake	the worst is job names. some can be gendered, some not, and even the French don't know what to do of them	[17:38]
nubbins`	chanteuse!	[17:38]
bitcoinpete	lol just 25 minutes late to the party	[17:38]
bitcoinpete	i suppose you want the cake now too?	[17:38]
nubbins`	D;	[17:38]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 144 @ 0.06580291 = 9.4756 BTC [-] {13}	[17:41]
bitcoinpete	http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-roadshow-swag-special-car-giveaway-in-trek-america/ << these guys are from our local meet-up	[17:41]
assbot	North America's Bitcoin Roadshow Offers Free Car as Grand Prize	[17:41]
bitcoinpete	they're basically driving a kia across north america to "raise awareness"	[17:43]
bitcoinpete	then giving away the car or $10k worth of bitcoins	[17:43]
bitcoinpete	as fucking if someone takes the beat-up car instead of the coins	[17:44]
bitcoinpete	maybe mpex or bitbet should slap their logo on the side of this thing	[17:45]
bitcoinpete	i'm sure spots are for sale for an outrageous amount of money ;)	[17:45]
mike_c	ThickAsThieves: what do you think about creating seeds.therealaltcoin.org with node seeds.	[17:45]
mike_c	it's like this, you just add a bunch of A records: http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3abitseed.xf2.org&run=toolpage	[17:47]
assbot	Network Tools: DNS,IP,Email	[17:47]
pankkake	the seeds I configured in the client are probably not working anymore	[17:47]
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mike_c	they don't appear to be returning anything	[17:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00082933 = 15.0109 BTC [+] {2}	[17:49]
fluffypony	mike_c: dnsseeds don't work that way	[17:49]
fluffypony	they're dynamic with a low TTL	[17:49]
mike_c	don't work what way?	[17:49]
fluffypony	not hard-coded	[17:49]
pankkake	not necessarily	[17:49]
fluffypony	it's a round-robin list that's dynamically refreshed on an ongoing basis	[17:49]
mike_c	well that sounds like a nice enhancement eventually	[17:50]
pankkake	I've done all my altcoins with simple A records I updated myself	[17:50]
pankkake	but yes that requires knowning about the nodes	[17:50]
mike_c	but right now we are at ground zero with seeding.	[17:50]
fluffypony	here's the source	[17:50]
fluffypony	https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder	[17:50]
assbot	sipa/bitcoin-seeder GitHub	[17:50]
fluffypony	not exactly rocket-science stuff	[17:50]
fluffypony	and easy to adapt	[17:50]
mike_c	so.. you're saying you'll run it ;)	[17:51]
mike_c	seeds.fluffypony.org	[17:51]
fluffypony	lol	[17:51]
fluffypony	if someone gets the source code working I'll gladly throw it on a box	[17:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.065 = 1.105 BTC [-]	[17:52]
mike_c	core dev? any spare time to port to altcoin-seeder?	[17:53]
thestringpuller	;;bc,stats	[17:54]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[17:54]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 607.11, Best ask: 608.95, Bid-ask spread: 1.84000, Last trade: 608.95, 24 hour volume: 8276.71700325, 24 hour low: 592.7, 24 hour high: 616.0, 24 hour vwap: 607.271648243	[17:54]
gribble	Current Blocks: 306507 \| Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 \| Next Difficulty In: 1940 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 3 minutes, and 25 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: None \| Estimated Percent Change: None	[17:54]
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Mats_cd03	lol	[17:57]
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punkman	that was a good pedicure, now I need a haircut	[18:13]
punkman	damn barber retired, gotta find a new one	[18:14]
chetty	http://www.infowars.com/supreme-court-agrees-to-rule-on-limiting-first-amendment/	[18:14]
assbot	» Supreme Court Agrees to Rule On Limiting First Amendment Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!	[18:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 206 @ 0.0289003 = 5.9535 BTC [-]	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	punkman i hate it when that happens	[18:21]
nubbins`	i've been cutting my own hair for about 7 years now	[18:24]
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nubbins`	sometimes it turns out terrible :D	[18:24]
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Naphex	nubbins`: why would somebody cut their own hair?	[18:30]
nubbins`	what an odd question	[18:30]
nubbins`	why would anyone do anything for themselves?	[18:31]
punkman	it's one of those things you can't do very well on your own	[18:31]
Naphex	yes but why not just pay someone to do it	[18:31]
Naphex	you don't have to pay attention and maybe you get a sweet skull massage :)	[18:31]
punkman	Naphex, I cut them myself last couple of times, with a little help from the girl, since the barber is not around	[18:32]
punkman	my biggest problem is the shitty shampoo everyone has	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` sucks his own cock, eats his own cooking, he's a solipsist.	[18:33]
punkman	and they use too much of it too	[18:33]
Naphex	:))	[18:34]
asciilifeform	i know plenty of people who cut their own hair.	[18:36]
asciilifeform	usually with electric razor.	[18:36]
Naphex	anything with electric razor or bald doesn't count:P	[18:36]
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mircea_popescu	Naphex wears a pompadour.	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	I SEEN IT	[18:41]
chetty	we are on to hair cuts? what happened to the fingernail polish, ladies?	[18:43]
nubbins`	if i could suck my own cock i wouldn't be wasting my time on irc	[18:43]
fluffypony	nubbins`: you'd be on TV?	[18:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 22 @ 0.0289004 = 0.6358 BTC [+]	[18:44]
nubbins`	heh	[18:44]
nubbins`	mp, i think that's not the first time you've called me that	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	what rly ?	[18:44]
nubbins`	maybe. not that surprising i guess	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	chetty http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Charles_Dana_Gibson00.jpg	[18:44]
nubbins`	Naphex: i don't pay someone else to cut my hair for the same reason i don't pay someone else to cook my food	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	what, never ?	[18:45]
nubbins`	nah, just generally	[18:45]
nubbins`	me going to a barber for a haircut would make as much sense as going to a restaurant for a bowl of cereal	[18:46]
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mircea_popescu	very small head ?	[18:48]
nubbins`	bike helmet says XXL	[18:49]
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thestringpuller	;;ident	[18:52]
gribble	Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None	[18:52]
chetty	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-18/putin-advisor-proposes-anti-dollar-alliance-halt-us-foreign-aggression	[18:53]
assbot	Putin Advisor Proposes "Anti-Dollar Alliance" To Halt US Aggression Abroad \| Zero Hedge	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	http://www.listafirme.ro/polimedia-srl-22530016/	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	check out graph. to teh moonz!	[18:54]
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mircea_popescu	;;bc,stats	[18:55]
gribble	Current Blocks: 306518 \| Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 \| Next Difficulty In: 1929 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 8 hours, 19 minutes, and 45 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 15413140721.7 \| Estimated Percent Change: 14.48876	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	nuts.	[18:55]
Naphex	18:24 <+nubbins`> i've been cutting my own hair for about 7 years now	[18:57]
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Naphex	18:24 <+nubbins`> sometimes it turns out terrible :D	[18:57]
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nubbins`	and then i can't even fix it because i throw out all my scissors and clippers when i'm done :(	[18:58]
nubbins`	unlike a barber shop, where you can come in the next day for a free tune-up if you don't like what they've done	[18:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 27.09655160 BTC to 9`095 shares, 297928 satoshi per share	[19:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.02033915 = 0.6102 BTC [-] {7}	[19:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69867315 BTC to 9`095 shares, 18677 satoshi per share	[19:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 457 @ 0.01949056 = 8.9072 BTC [-] {13}	[19:03]
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mircea_popescu	;;seen korbman	[19:07]
gribble	korbman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 32 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: or else I wouldn't be on here haha :P	[19:07]
Mats_cd03	chetty: nails in da coffin	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointa.lk/threads/dattank-mining-any-chip-any-hardware-any-currency.330080/page-4#post-7067314 << is this guy actually using the dot to represent scalars (ie, as opposed to vectors) or wtf notation is that	[19:09]
assbot	DatTank Mining: any chip, any hardware, any currency \| Page 4 \| Bitcointa.lk	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	first derivative ?	[19:09]
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fluffypony	still a better post than Jimmothy's comment on GPG	[19:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.06329633 = 2.5319 BTC [-] {4}	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	no argument but im fucking curious, it makes no sense	[19:12]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: with 30k usd profit, it is not too adventurous a guess that polimedia does not house mpex ?	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	course not	[19:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6664 @ 0.00082981 = 5.5299 BTC [+] {2}	[19:18]
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punkman	Fun fact: out of 10310 bitbets, only 313 have lost money betting on the winning side, and only 100 of those had a weight of 10k	[19:23]
punkman	*more than 10k	[19:23]
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mircea_popescu	and total value lost ?	[19:28]
punkman	1.55 BTC	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	heh. out of 10k.	[19:28]
punkman	pretty good	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	whoa uspo cancelled redskins trademark ?!	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	bwahgah	[19:28]
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mircea_popescu	o look, south africa actually uses the ancient dce concept. nao i don't need to fumble trying to explain to people what domicile means anymoar! just reference south african law!	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	thank you internets	[19:36]
punkman	another tidbit: 52.3 % of bets picked the winning side, with total gain of 2644 BTC	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	total net gain ?	[19:36]
punkman	yes	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	interesting.	[19:36]
punkman	total amount in 9393 BTC, gain 2633 BTC	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	punkman you gonna collect all this in a blog post ?	[19:37]
punkman	it will be in the app	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	and what's average time ?	[19:37]
fluffypony	heh	[19:39]
fluffypony	we're cool that way	[19:39]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: I still use DCE when drawing up an MoU for a freelancer in another country	[19:40]
fluffypony	hard habit to break	[19:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00082842 = 26.2195 BTC [-] {3}	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	i thought it was mostly forgotten as a legal term cca 1898 or something	[19:40]
moiety	ah chicago http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/chicago-nuns-take-strip-club-to-court-for-raucous-music-used-condoms-and-neon-lights-9545855.html	[19:40]
assbot	Chicago nuns take strip club to court for 'raucous music, used condoms and neon lights' - Americas - World - The Independent	[19:40]
benkay	dce?	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	benkay http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-28/ grep domicilium	[19:40]
assbot	How to fail gracefully as a Bitcoin business	[19:41]
fluffypony	benkay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domicilium_citandi_et_executandi	[19:41]
assbot	Domicilium citandi et executandi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	anyway, imo the fiat approach is naive.	[19:41]
fluffypony	everyone seems to be doing it lately	[19:44]
fluffypony	valuing things entirely in fiat	[19:44]
fluffypony	and then almost as an afterthought "ohey, fundraising is in Bitcoin and so are dividend payments"	[19:44]
mircea_popescu	yeah, that's totally a good reason :D	[19:45]
fluffypony	lol	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	what i mean is specifically this : that the construction of recourse and remedy on the infrastructure of fiat is not going to work.	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	if it were going to work, fiat-based intl merchants wouldn't have such a fucking headache.	[19:45]
mircea_popescu	consider the earlier case described by altucher.	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	why did "bill" and everyone else involved seem to think that once the 10mn is wired, that's it, the fraudster won ?	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	why, specifically because the fiat method does not work.	[19:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899789 = 0.69 BTC [-]	[19:48]
fluffypony	I agree with that - it was more to show that personal liability is always an option on the fiat side (reckless trading etc.), so this idea that you can burn a registered company and walk away and start a new one is also flawed	[19:48]
fluffypony	because that's the other thing that seems to be big, especially on the forums	[19:48]
fluffypony	"I can show business registration papers so therefore"	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	depends if you make a business of it or not.	[19:48]
fluffypony	like registering a business in and of itself makes it flawless	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	if you do, you can. if you're random joe blow you can not, but then again this stuff is not for you anyway,	[19:48]
fluffypony	yep	[19:48]
asciilifeform	burn a registered company and walk away and start a new one << interesting historical degenerate case: russia during lenin's 'NEP' - 20s - folks would close a firm immediately prior to tax day, open new one the day after with same assets	[19:49]
benkay	"CAN I HAVE BITCOINZ NOA?" << lol	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	so it's really a blind alley : those on whom it'd work are probably the same set that think "bitcoin is bad" or w/e	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform and even so soviet tax collection was better than the tsar's.	[19:49]
asciilifeform	('nep' was an experiment with limited 'backslide' into capitalism)	[19:49]
asciilifeform	result was a miniature preview of the 'roaring '90s'	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	which brings an interestin point.	[19:50]
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punkman	mircea_popescu: average time from winning bet placement to resolution is 42 days	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	i wasn't watching at the time, but did ayone in the early 90s/late 80s say hey, lenin's nep previewed what'll happen here ?	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	punkman ty!	[19:51]
asciilifeform	oh sure they did	[19:51]
asciilifeform	plenty of folks knew exactly how it would roll.	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	;;calc (2633 / 9393) ** (42/365)	[19:51]
gribble	0.863856328733	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	86% pa.	[19:51]
fluffypony	btw benkay - http://stealth.openwall.net/xSports/shocker.c	[19:53]
fluffypony	docker breakout PoC	[19:53]
punkman	9393 was only the winners' input btw	[19:54]
benkay	"don't run strange"	[19:54]
asciilifeform	http://cryptome.org/2014/06/nsa-spiegel-snowden-14-0618.pdf << 200 pgs. of new crapolade	[19:54]
benkay	crapolades	[19:56]
benkay	accocraps	[19:56]
benkay	derpocalypse	[19:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.0008269 = 16.9515 BTC [-] {3}	[19:57]
asciilifeform	all the good bits carefully censored out.	[19:58]
chetty	http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Graffiti-Suspect-Francisco-Canseco-Tagged-Courtroom-263528431.html	[19:59]
assbot	Brazen Graffiti Suspect Tagged Courtroom: Officials \| NBC 7 San Diego	[19:59]
benkay	http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/#footnote_1_55053 // not strong, someday smart.	[20:02]
assbot	People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[20:02]
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*	chetty thinks MP has been reading tea leaves again// "- I suppose you’ve never learned of the law that protects people’s rights and propety…"	[20:07]
chetty	goes so nice with theft of redskins trademark	[20:08]
asciilifeform	as i understand, not quite stolen yet - just some of the bolts holding it down removed.	[20:09]
asciilifeform	there are still state-level trademarks, afaik	[20:09]
chetty	the states stand up so well to the feds these days	[20:12]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/48WRuJ6,W7nuzd8#0	[20:16]
assbot	turdomatic - Imgur	[20:16]
asciilifeform	^ choice turdlets	[20:16]
punkman	asciilifeform: what's that	[20:17]
asciilifeform	punkman: snippets from the new spiegel collection	[20:18]
chetty	asciilifeform, greping for ips? wish I had some time for funs	[20:23]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: lol http://fundatiabitcoin.ro/	[20:23]
assbot	Fundatia Bitcoin Romania \| Sustine Bitcoin	[20:23]
fluffypony	lol	[20:23]
asciilifeform	Radu Georgescu << gecad ?	[20:24]
Naphex	yes	[20:24]
Naphex	or coinzone or whatever	[20:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 90 @ 0.01979875 = 1.7819 BTC [+] {2}	[20:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06550729 = 0.6551 BTC [-] {4}	[20:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.06323412 = 1.5809 BTC [-] {5}	[20:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00082375 = 14.498 BTC [-] {4}	[20:46]
mthreat	asciilifeform: that nsa-spiegel-snowden PDF is pretty interesting. It seems like Germany is basically part of the "five eyes" countries, which would make it "six eyes"	[20:48]
asciilifeform	mthreat: the bnd thing is old hat.	[20:49]
asciilifeform	muppet state.	[20:49]
asciilifeform	(not to be confused with 'puppet state')	[20:50]
benkay	incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? // video ho in the rap industry	[20:54]
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benkay	punkman: that's lookin all right man	[21:03]
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mike_c	yeah, very cool. when do we get to play with it?	[21:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00082603 = 4.0062 BTC [+]	[21:20]
davout	how does this guy get resolved if the auction is kept private? --> http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/	[21:22]
assbot	BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 1.39 B (58%) on Yes, 0.99 B (42%) on No \| closing in 1 week 1 day\| weight: 92`453 (100`000 to 1)	[21:22]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.0635 = 2.8575 BTC [+]	[21:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06349999 = 0.762 BTC [-] {3}	[21:25]
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los_pantalones	does anyone know if the us govt has control the private keys on the silk road wallets ?	[21:31]
los_pantalones	i was always under the impression that they didn't have control of that	[21:31]
asciilifeform	los_pantalones: dpr might be sitting on a stake as we speak, coughing up the keys	[21:32]
los_pantalones	hmm	[21:33]
los_pantalones	color me skeptical	[21:33]
mike_c	possiblity? SR coins can be sold now. DPR coins can't be sold until conviction.	[21:34]
mike_c	ianal	[21:34]
los_pantalones	yes, i think that is true	[21:34]
los_pantalones	but still only theoretically	[21:34]
fluffypony	that's the way I understood it too	[21:35]
los_pantalones	fluffypony you understood that was the process or that the feds do not have the private keys	[21:35]
los_pantalones	or both	[21:35]
fluffypony	both	[21:36]
los_pantalones	tyvm	[21:36]
los_pantalones	i thought i was crazy	[21:36]
fluffypony	they don't have the keys (at least not that they've admitted to), but once they have them they can beat the keys out of him with a wrench	[21:36]
fluffypony	Joe "The Plumber" Kazinsci will work his wrench magic on DPR	[21:37]
los_pantalones	ha, idk, i don't doubt they will try	[21:37]
los_pantalones	but if it comes AFTER the conviction	[21:37]
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los_pantalones	why would he care	[21:39]
los_pantalones	"welcome to jail for life"	[21:39]
FabianB	$traded	[21:42]
empyex	FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR	[21:42]
benkay	;;later tell BingoBoingo herbi's back?	[21:43]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:43]
chetty	http://www.coindesk.com/list-possible-silk-road-bitcoin-bidders-allegedly-leaked-us-marshals/	[21:50]
assbot	List of Possible Silk Road Bitcoin Bidders Allegedly Leaked by US Marshals	[21:50]
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asciilifeform	'Avarus, Inc. (“we”, “us”, “our”) was incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware on September 20, 2010. The Company was originally organized as a “blank check” shell Company to investigate and acquire a target company or business seeking the perceived advantages of being a publicly held corporation.' << lol!	[21:52]
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trinque	chetty: amateurs	[22:08]
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davout	the list is genuine	[22:21]
punkman	mike_c: fresh out of the oven https://bitbucket.org/abfg/bitbet.py/src	[22:21]
assbot	abfg / bitbet.py / source / — Bitbucket	[22:21]
mike_c	nice	[22:23]
punkman	no it's 15kb of pure horror	[22:24]
kakobrekla	title = AttrMap(Filler(Text(['BITBET.PY', ' ', 'DELUXE EDITION'],align='center'),valign='middle'), 'banner') < WIN	[22:24]
kakobrekla	only amazing edition can top that	[22:24]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[22:24]
punkman	there's some work to get to AMAZING	[22:25]
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punkman	why isn't the hashbang working, how do I linux?	[22:30]
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mike_c	don't you need a space?	[22:39]
mike_c	#! /usr/whatever	[22:39]
mike_c	doesn't look like it, ignore me.	[22:40]
punkman	oops forgot chmod +x	[22:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00082697 = 7.7322 BTC [+] {2}	[22:44]
nubbins`	heh	[22:47]
nubbins`	nanotube, first name on the list	[22:47]
Naphex	so there is a list of bidders	[22:48]
Naphex	pretty interesting	[22:48]
Naphex	anyone did any intel on the bidders yet?	[22:48]
thestringpuller	nanotube is an associate professor	[22:50]
thestringpuller	never really knew his real name	[22:50]
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Naphex	anyone got the full bcc?	[22:51]
los_pantalones	i think that was the full list	[22:52]
los_pantalones	don't think there were any bcc	[22:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.06943859 = 1.2499 BTC [+] {2}	[23:09]
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los_pantalones	!up 1337	[23:10]
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FabianB	1 != l	[23:11]
los_pantalones	!up 1337	[23:11]
chetty	!up l337	[23:11]
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l337	oh, thanks chetty	[23:11]
chetty	yw	[23:11]
l337	why couldn't you do it, los_pantalones?	[23:12]
FabianB	because 1 != l	[23:12]
l337	ah, didn't notice that	[23:12]
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l337	regarding this http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/	[23:14]
assbot	People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[23:14]
l337	is MP pricing bitcoin @ $10k, did I get that right?	[23:14]
chetty	well he is making a point about not selling cheap if you got em to hold	[23:15]
chetty	I dont think we actually have very good price signals atm	[23:17]
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l337	what would constitute a good price signal tho?	[23:18]
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punkman	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909791	[23:26]
assbot	Code Spaces data and backups deleted by hackers \| Hacker News	[23:26]
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punkman	clown-based backups	[23:27]
fluffypony	"Our backups were powered by Usagi"	[23:30]
fluffypony	I wish that was in there :(	[23:30]
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punkman	better link http://beta.slashdot.org/story/203503	[23:30]
assbot	Code Spaces Hosting Shutting Down After Attacker Deletes All Data - Slashdot	[23:30]
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davout	los_pantalones Naphex i have 21 more e-mail addresses in mine	[23:31]
los_pantalones	oh, fo realz? why didn't they get dox'd with the rest ?	[23:32]
los_pantalones	and are you bidding or just asked them a question ?	[23:33]
los_pantalones	sorry, per'aps that was something i shouldn't have asked	[23:36]
chetty	davout, +1 spy skills	[23:38]
davout	there are a few addresses that have no associated name, a couple folks that lead to multiple google hits	[23:38]
davout	also no, i'm not bidding, and i didn't inquire	[23:38]
los_pantalones	oh, got it	[23:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16541 @ 0.00082894 = 13.7115 BTC [+]	[23:40]
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chetty	!up l337	[23:42]
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FabianB	l337: if you lurk a few month you'll know better	[23:46]
l337	will do	[23:46]
FabianB	l337: if you don't look short-time you might realize it's not current fiat/btc price that matters	[23:48]
l337	I seem to know that already, it's the long-term value I am interested in	[23:49]
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fluffypony	long-term I already know the price of Bitcoin	[23:52]
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fluffypony	by the time we hit 2030	[23:53]
fluffypony	1 Bitcoin will = 1 Bitcoin	[23:53]
fluffypony	you heard it here first	[23:53]
fluffypony	tell your kids	[23:53]
Mats_cd03	shit, nigga	[23:53]
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fluffypony	Mats_cd03: I'm a regular prophet	[23:53]
fluffypony	;;8ball will 1 Bitcoin = 1 Bitcoin by the time we hit 2030?	[23:53]
gribble	One would be wise to think so.	[23:53]
fluffypony	even gribble knows.	[23:54]
FabianB	too many miners don't	[23:54]
l337	it must be painful spending it once the dollar goes to shit	[23:55]
chetty	whats a dollar?	[23:56]
jurov	hi all, any news around X.IDIFF.JUN?	[23:56]
mike_c	no settlement announcement yet	[23:57]
mike_c	i assume that means it will be capped.	[23:57]
FabianB	$depth X.IDIFF.JUN	[23:57]
empyex	FabianB: [X.IDIFF.JUN] Bids:	[23:57]
empyex	FabianB: [X.IDIFF.JUN] Asks: 4806 @ 0.01189900 100000 @ 0.01190000 1 @ 0.01200000	[23:57]
mike_c	dangerous trading on settlement day.	[23:57]
davout	chetty: "whats a dollar?" <<< just a letter away from a collar	[23:57]
fluffypony	chetty: it's like Bitcoin but centralised and it has a random annual inflation set by this centralised issuer. also no block reward, lame.	[23:58]
jurov	yes, it's frozen on coinbr and I would like to close it today, tmrw will be mostly afk	[23:58]
mike_c	mircea_popescu hasn't said anything	[23:58]
jurov	that's why i'm asking	[23:59]
mike_c	just highlighting him :)	[23:59]
*	jurov feels derpy nao	[23:59]
asciilifeform	;;later tell mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs_DORLTWLU	[23:59]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[23:59]
assbot	Nassim Taleb on Anti-Fragility - YouTube	[23:59]

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