Forum logs for 18 Jan 2019
| feedbot: | http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-octob-novem-and-decem-1716-part-ii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of Octob. Novem. and Decem. 1716. - Part II. | [03:27] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/pizd-atrage-da-curu-trage-ca-n-viata-tragic/ << Trilema -- Pizd-atrage da' curu' trage. Ca-n viata : tragic. | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | that poor theresa may moron. so they "rejected" her plan, ie, they set up a scapegoat to "come up with a plan" for the distinct purpose of rejecting it loudly whatever it may be. | [11:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | what sort of hay must the brainbox of this "independent" "careerwoman" contain to not realise as much ? | [11:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | and as far as "they" are concerned... there goes england, today in the exact same political position as if it had simply handed over the empire to wilhelm in 1905 -- minus, of course, the cost of two costly wars with germany. | [11:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | what've "they" fucking accomplished yet, with their ever-so-clever scapegoating merry-go-round ? economy flats around the ugliest, shittiest town in all of europe, and 12yos who'd rather be raped & set on fire by pakis than talk to "her majesty"'s clerks ? | [11:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | entirely ungovernable item, they've reconstructed historical scotland. | [11:56] |
| BingoBoingo: | Kinda the problems all the "independent" "careerwomen" are running into, no? | [11:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | isn't it the truth. | [11:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile in not even terrible editorial work, https://theweek.com/articles-amp/818269/theresa-mays-undead-government | [11:59] |
| BingoBoingo: | Look at Pelosi, all the other career women are telling her to respond to everything Trump does as though a toddler is having a tantrum (i.e. ignoring him unless he 'calms down' for an impossible in this case definition of calm down). Nevermind the response is not only what Trump wants, it is what the hayseeds and others supporting Trump want. | [12:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | one can't help but wonder how'd have thatcher fared in this environment. | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suspect the problem's very much that the 2020s are not the 1980s, naught else. | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | but anyway, in the us the strictly only avenue left to the dnc is to "pretend" to "ignore". if they engage they get crushed. the party's already gone as a going concern, for which reason : the only way an imaginary party can continue its imagined hold on worldly things is through "ignoring" them. | [12:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | aka, "close your eyes and think of the empire". | [12:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | Ah, to look back at period Qntra pieces http://qntra.net/2016/07/theresa-may-british-pm-after-no-one-else-wants-job-following-brexit-vote/ | [12:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | "Many paternalist conservatives, including those of the "One Nation" tendency with which May identifies, have made a point of disagreeing with Lady Thatcher's famous dictum that there is no such thing as society. But it increasingly looks as if she was right. We don't have society anymore but rather an economy." << incidentally, that is EXACTRLY what gave europe the villa economy, hence villeins ie diocletian's chained plebs, | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | and so on. | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo ayup. | [12:07] |
| BingoBoingo: | From here the British problem is you have this giant Island farm unified after centuries of clan disputes. After the farm is unified the winning family... retires. | [12:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | in any case, it must be said "Whether this is an especially noble reason for not engaging in civil war is an open question, but the fact remains that in the end what binds nations together is not some windy romantic nonsense about "culture" or "heritage" or "the soil" but commerce." is flatly wrong. | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | what creates a nation is shared meaning, strictly in the sense of http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-28-aug-2017#2329514 | [12:12] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-08-28 23:10 mircea_popescu: kanzure " Obviously there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning." | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | the country, and with it the nation, exists from and of the king, that crispin's day speech is what every "constitution" has been trying to be ever since. | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | https://twitter.com/matthewwalther << someone drop him a loglink, if anyone still has a twitter | [12:15] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: i suspect the english last had 'shared meaning', if ever, was before the normals lowered'em | [12:17] |
| asciilifeform: | *normans | [12:17] |
| asciilifeform: | possibly not even then. | [12:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, i gave example, it was certainly there at crecy etc. | [12:17] |
| asciilifeform: | relatedly, https://archive.is/sXqHN << 4 u.s. grunts Officially kia, in 'cancelled' war | [12:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | in fact, all signs point to oscar wilde & friends. that's when it all died -- oxford, the crown, culture, everything. | [12:20] |
| asciilifeform: | ( incl. nsa chix. apparently they send'em to the front nao ) | [12:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | in fact, that (ulteriorly reconstructed) scene between whistler, wilde, shaw and albert-edward (for whom, let's not forget, the cockpiece is named) is pretty much the exact historical moment. | [12:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | Navy Chief Cryptologic Technician Shannon M. Kent, 35. keks mmkay. | [12:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie, worked for cwa-66, item recently (months ago) created by the 2017 vintage cwa-6 (itself a rebranding of NIOC Maryland aka NSGA Fort Meade). | [12:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | that they don't do anything in particular should be self-evident, but here's some lulz re "intelligent design" : | [12:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | "Today (Aug 10) at 1000 EST, under the leadership of VADM T. J. White, Cryptologic Warfare Group-SIX (CWG-SIX) will establish Cryptologic Warfare Activity (CWA) 65, Cryptologic Warfare Activity (CWA) 66 and Cryptologic Warfare Activity (CWA) 67. CDR Mark Boggis will take command of CWA 65, CDR Joseph Harrison will take command of CWA 66 and CDR William Wilson will take command of CWA 67. CWG-6 was established on June 9, 2017 | [12:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | during a ceremony that also included the establishment of three additional subordinate commands: Cryptologic Warfare Maritime Activity (CWMA) 61, Cyber Strike Activity (CSA) 63 and Cyber Defense Activity (CDA) 64." | [12:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | check out that beautiful instruction set : 01 : warfare maritime 02 : [cocksucking, redacted] 03 : strike 04 : defense 05 : warfare 06 : warfare 07 : warfare. | [12:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | wouldn't you like a processor like that ? | [12:29] |
| asciilifeform: | lol 67th cocksucking battalion | [12:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't even need to declassify anything to make it plainly evident shannon kent wasted her youth on java. | [12:31] |
| asciilifeform: | the bureaucracy 'codes' are sumthingelse... there was a time when asciilifeform slaved in a usg army research thing, and their 'job codes' were written in 1960s, there was no 'programmer'. so ended up 'chemist'. | [12:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | point here being, that they crearted a thing, a year ago. and then the thing they created a year ago was found not good, and was reformed, months ago. and reformed it stands as called, and well... the minds that think thus think thus, and do everything else exactly as you'\d expect. | [12:45] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: iirc they endlessly and pointlessly rename units, it somehow triggers disgorgement of fresh green from printing press, so the generals rubber stamp it | [12:47] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-18#1888188 << oh hey , was this same grandfather as 'i miss stalin, we were younger then' ? | [12:49] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-18 16:15 feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/pizd-atrage-da-curu-trage-ca-n-viata-tragic/ << Trilema -- Pizd-atrage da' curu' trage. Ca-n viata : tragic. | [12:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | it is. | [12:50] |
| asciilifeform: | i had 1 of these. ( 3yo a.: 'grandfather, what do soldiers do after the war' him:'die' ) | [12:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [13:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | and speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871537 : that's precisely how said albert-edward met christian's alexandra. | [13:12] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-11-12 16:44 asciilifeform: even on asciilifeform's home planet, good chunk of marriages were 'soft-arranged' -- i.e. 'comrade colonel, you have a bachelor son, i have a ripe daughter' 'comrade lt colonel, let's box'em in a room, wainot' | [13:12] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile, in old lulzthreads via mircea_popescu's linx, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704991 | [13:56] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-08-29 16:05 kanzure: that's a reasonable request. i'll make catalog. | [13:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | im sure if we had a code of conduct to guarantee greater accessibility and respect for all morons, a lot more catalogs would be produced. | [13:57] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | cuz that's what the scum was saying, back in 1910, to get "the people's budget" nonsense passed into law : that the one thing keeping them shameful maculae on the face of humanity is how the lordship doesn't treat them well enough. | [13:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | pro tip : whenever the inferior whine about maltreatment, it's a sure sign as if god spoke himself that you're sparing the rod excessively, and spoiling the children in consequence. | [13:58] |
| asciilifeform: | there was that old mircea_popescu piece, with the bear & the hedgehog | [13:58] |
| asciilifeform: | 'through what did you speak, hedgehog' | [13:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | ha. | [13:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | "This is a war Budget. It is for raising money to wage implacable warfare against poverty and squalidness. I cannot help hoping and believing that before this generation has passed away, we shall have advanced a great step towards that good time, when poverty, and the wretchedness and human degradation which always follows in its camp, will be as remote to the people of this country as the wolves which once infested its fores | [14:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | ts." | [14:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | schmucks. where's may's speech taking account how HOW UTTERLY THAT UTOPIA FAILED! | [14:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | they advanced such a great step towards good time i couldn't begin to tell you. | [14:06] |
| asciilifeform: | where was this? | [14:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | "people's budget" | [14:07] |
| asciilifeform: | hrm, is the d. l. george 'dreadnoughts' speech actually on the net anywhere ? | [14:14] |
| asciilifeform: | can't seem to find it.. | [14:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie, "duke more expensive to upkeep than battleship but easier to scrap" ? | [14:15] |
| asciilifeform: | that | [14:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | their own damned fault, should have simply fired cannon into the idiot's house. | [14:16] |
| asciilifeform: | tbf the brits at that point had a 100+ yr pest control problem | [14:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | duke of york, raises yeomanry, goes to london hangs lloyd george by the appendix. big whoop. | [14:16] |
| asciilifeform: | ( when was last time duke of x ~had~ what to raise ) | [14:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | yet the man said, "In any century before this one, a people as divided as the British over Europe would have started murdering each other long ago. " | [14:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is not strictly true. if i were duke in 1810 -- my house army'd been besieging london. | [14:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | the actual dukes of 1910 -- opted otherwise. | [14:17] |
| asciilifeform: | did they even have 'house army' at that pt ? or already long ago neutered | [14:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | but as a factual matter : "tearing down" a duke is always easy enough from behind. dealing with the cost-of-consequence of having torn down your duke, intractable problem. | [14:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | easy enough to build battleships again. | [14:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform long ago neutered. also their damned fault. | [14:18] |
| asciilifeform: | seems that'd be the moment of death then. not some 1900s communist lolcow's speech. | [14:19] |
| asciilifeform: | i suspect that mircea_popescu would find meiji era jp an interesting subj. there, the dukes actually ~did~ march 'house armies' on the newly-pantsuited capital. | [14:20] |
| asciilifeform: | and it was a pretty close match. | [14:21] |
| BingoBoingo: | The Japanese lords did as they should | [14:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IJxO8/?raw=true | [14:30] |
| asciilifeform: | oh ty | [14:31] |
| BingoBoingo: | "forty cottages had to be crowded on two acres" << This doesn't seem very dense at all for horizontal development. | [14:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, england meanwhile improved. | [14:41] |
| BingoBoingo: | Down right spacious | [14:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | a century of "we are doing things for the poor" bore its fruits. | [14:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | that some random knave ran away from mansion service imagined himself apt to evaluate "what will happen", and then evaluated wrongly is one thing. "who could have predicted", back in 1909, that there's only one kind of poor -- the ~deserving~ poor. | [14:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | but it's not 1909 anymore. | [14:43] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: dunno, standard ameri-suburbia is 4 cardboard boxen per. | [14:47] |
| asciilifeform: | 40 / 2 sounds moar like current-day ameri-trailerpark | [14:47] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: suburbia isn't a thing to compare here. Suburbia is 4-8 derps per acre paying ground rent to the mammy lords at the school house while imagining themselves lords because of cheap credit. | [14:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: I'm comparing 40 an acre to the horizontal apartment complexes locally here | [14:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | 4k sqm per acre, so like 200sqm per house, is WAY more than london currently sports. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/property/2016/04/12/58410017_C8FHW7_Terraced_houses_Wilson_Road_Camberwell_London_Borough_of_Lambeth_London_Greater_Lond_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqplGOf-dgG3z4gg9owgQTXEk5YRMpZagQrlVp-I8j3oU.jpg << item is the approximate location in discussion, between lea and thames | [14:50] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: meanwhile, on uy1, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7QcPb/?raw=true | [14:50] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: How hot is "battery temperature high" in this context | [14:52] |
| asciilifeform: | >60 | [14:52] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i'ma include new ones in the cargo, it's a 20 $ part | [14:52] |
| asciilifeform: | and incidentally the cards run fine without'em, it's a 'parachute' component | [14:53] |
| asciilifeform: | it powers the write cache on the card. but with fast ssd, that cache gets flushed pretty quickly. ( and battery only comes into play if mains fail ) | [14:54] |
| BingoBoingo: | Any other UY1 observations? | [15:00] |
| asciilifeform: | nope | [15:00] |
| asciilifeform: | cpu at 54. | [15:01] |
| asciilifeform: | ( it hovers in high 40s when 0 traffic on box, and 50s when there is ) | [15:01] |
| BingoBoingo: | Is this the first time since instrumenting that the high battery temperature warning has happened? | [15:08] |
| * BingoBoingo | would like to see if this battery can be sourced locally | [15:09] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i've never seen'em sold anywhere other than china. | [15:14] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: 1st time since instrumenting, but happens regularly on my local boxen, generally not fatal ( controller will cut it off before it catches fire. ) contributes to overall thermal climate tho | [15:15] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: GPG me the part number. I'd still like to look. If I find one the value of knowing where it came from would be far greater than the battery. | [15:30] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: LSIiBBU07 . | [17:03] |
| BingoBoingo: | ty | [17:04] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: btw, plox to re-inventory the bilge at yer earliest convenience | [17:13] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: Will do this weekend | [17:13] |
| asciilifeform: | ty BingoBoingo . i'd rather not waste precious cargo mass on items we already have, etc | [17:14] |
| BingoBoingo: | Right | [17:14] |
| feedbot: | http://qntra.net/2019/01/black-horse-down-uk-faster-interbank-payment-network-fucking-lloyds-group-banks/ << Qntra -- Black Horse Down: UK 'Faster' Interbank Payment Network Fucking Lloyds Group Banks | [17:38] |
| BingoBoingo: | And a new MUGA contender appears: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/gustavo-salle-sera-candidato-para-hacer-cambios-en-uruguay-con-sangre-sudor-y-lagrimas--2019118181041 | [17:48] |
| asciilifeform: | con-sangre-sudor-y-lagrimas << lol, did he also add that 'it will be long, and it will be hard, and there shall be no withdrawal!'(tm)(r) ? | [17:58] |
| BingoBoingo: | Not explicitly | [18:06] |
| feedbot: | http://qntra.net/2019/01/local-tv-personalities-cant-stop-making-us-national-news-for-saying-martin-luther-coon/ << Qntra -- Local TV Personalities Can't Stop Making US National News For Saying "Martin Luther Coon" | [18:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | martin luther coon keks. not even bad. | [19:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | ssl also sounds like a pretty good meme. | [19:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other lulz : http://archive.is/nzVRf | [19:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | i think the list is actually just about right : lexapro, cymbalta, ssri antidepressants, gabapentin, kratom, and finally, with your permission last on the list, afghanistan. | [19:29] |
| asciilifeform: | wtf is kratom | [19:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile banned plant extract | [19:35] |
| feedbot: | http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-july-august-and-september-1716-part-ii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of July, August and September, 1716. - Part II | [19:37] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: It's got some alkaloids that are apparently partial agonists on the opioid receptors. Was explicitly banned once it started making the news for being a potential methadone alternative for relieving overdosable opiate cravings. | [19:47] |
| BingoBoingo: | Some of the better living through Chemistry bloggers promoted it for its own affiliate marketing merits | [19:49] |
| asciilifeform: | !#s jekem | [20:03] |
| a111: | 2 results for "jekem", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=jekem | [20:03] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: There's a whole mess of these plant extracts and research chemicals that get affiliate marketing promoted until crack downs come. Pantsuitists, alt-pantsuitists, and color pillers all get marketed the stuff. | [20:09] |
| feedbot: | http://qntra.net/2019/01/following-legalization-canadian-cannabis-activist-entrepreneur-marc-emery-hit-with-pantsuit-metoo-depersoning-attack/ << Qntra -- Following Legalization Canadian Cannabis Activist Entrepreneur Marc Emery Hit With Pantsuit #MeToo Depersoning Attack | [20:28] |
| BingoBoingo: | ^ For the Pantsuit eating their own, get out of the way files | [20:46] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-13#794524 | [20:48] |
| a111: | Logged on 2014-08-13 14:40 asciilifeform: 'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are, then just swoop in and collect... This means the only way they can get in is if you let them get in. Dont let them get in for cheap - they have no business here.' (mp's http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar | [20:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: So much trilema, so few words to tag with links to trilema | [21:33] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i find it interesting how usaschwitz inmates will do literally ~any~ dope, even the expensive obummercare-'prescription' crapola, just to take a few hour's 'vacation' from 'how world works'(tm)(r) | [22:39] |
| asciilifeform: | moar narrow-minded orcs back on asciilifeform's home planet, drank paint thinner, laquer, etc when couldnt afford liquor, for same | [22:39] |
| asciilifeform: | ( and near as i can tell, ~100% of usg 'dope policy' is simply own competition for dope konsoomers. but i'm not particularly qualified to opine, nao if only gabriel_laddel were around... ) | [22:41] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i was doing the annoying but occasionally inescapable chore of sweeping out a spamola-encrusted mailbox, and ~100% of the spams were for something nominally smokable/pillable/etc | [22:43] |
| BingoBoingo: | I've encountered quite a bit of it in my spam traps as well as searching for life various all comers spam traps. | [22:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | what the fuck is Dont | [22:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | Don't let them get in for cheap | [22:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | ' as god intended it. wtf happened there. | [22:55] |
| * BingoBoingo | remembers early Qntra days when spamtrap was mostly 'Can't believe its not name brand apparel outlet', but that has just about all been replaced by drugspam | [22:56] |
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