Forum logs for 12 May 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

mircea_popescu	quite.	[00:00]
mike_c	mircea_popescu: i know a 1st year comp sci student looking for summer work if you think that might fit the data entry thing you're looking to get done.	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	"never interrupt your enemy while he's fucking himself with a pineaple."	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	mike_c got snapped up meanwhile	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	actually, within ten minutes lol	[00:00]
mike_c	i believe it	[00:00]
decimation	especially when the pineapple has your face carved in it :)	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	your friend would maybe be well served to get hooked up with in here.	[00:01]
mike_c	he would. i believe he's a log lurker.	[00:01]
BingoBoingo	http://oglaf.com/	[00:02]
assbot	Cartomancy	[00:02]
benkay	https://vine.co/v/MrKaIKV5Zan	[00:02]
assbot	#america #freedom #libertarian #liberty #sarcasm	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnX_pZ4CcAAwFKg.jpg	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	o hey, they have the plaques still	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	who knew	[00:03]
benkay	BingoBoingo: http://oglaf.com/ahoy/	[00:04]
assbot	Ahoy	[00:04]
BingoBoingo	benkay: I hate when whales think they are dancers.	[00:04]
benkay	!b 1	[00:06]
assbot	Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0Q2RXH7.txt )	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	Luke-Jr bitcoin is politically neutral only in some sort of politically meaningless "absolute" sense. otherwise, inasmuch as western socialism holds the ideological view that all non socialist (politically neutral or otherwise) systems of thought are political enemies, bitcoin can only be politically-engaged from their perspective.	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	so let's not confuse things. bitcoin can be as neutral as you want, for you. for hitler, stalin, pol pot and obama, bitcoin is ~quite~ politically engaged.	[00:08]
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mircea_popescu	to best understand this : a bank that reports its customers to any tax office they want to, if they want it to, and doesn't otherwise would be the embodiment of legal neutrality, in the absolute sense. nevertheless, the legal theory would be presented that it is in fact actgively engaged in criminal activity, and as shoddy as that legal teory may be, it will actually carry in most western courts.	[00:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.072 = 0.288 BTC [-]	[00:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.041 = 0.287 BTC [-]	[00:12]
benkay	!up DrewHorne	[00:12]
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DrewHorne	thanks	[00:12]
DrewHorne	so after speaking with you guys i have modified my approach on the bitcointalk forum	[00:12]
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BingoBoingo	http://deadspin.com/vladimir-putin-is-apparently-a-scoring-machine-on-the-i-1574773039	[00:13]
assbot	Vladimir Putin Is A Hockey Superstar (Because No One Will Defend Him)	[00:13]
DrewHorne	i know theres a lot of bullshit on there but there are some legitimate businessmen too if i can find the diamond amongst all the shit	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnXpaFNIEAAzKKy.jpg	[00:13]
DrewHorne	mircea i would be interested to see any feedback you might have for me to improve this post if you had a moment	[00:14]
DrewHorne	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=605297.msg6676613#msg6676613	[00:14]
assbot	Established music festival needs ~$1.25 million USD for 5 year plan, ROI = 5900%	[00:14]
DrewHorne	since i have had a few interested people contact me based off of the last post i made regarding this (approached much less professionally without knowledge of the forum i was getting into) i figured i can let this sit on the off chance that other investors happen upon it while i work on building my trust in the WOT to approach from that angle as well	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	DrewHorne what's the relation of all this with the Collins-Rector character and his merry harem of gay bois ?	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	o look, a herbijudlestoids.	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	bounce: apparently the tweet is right there, in a << ahahaha this sort of shit.	[00:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00094 = 0.188 BTC [+]	[00:23]
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DrewHorne	im afraid i dont have an answer for that mircea	[00:23]
DrewHorne	i assure you that i am not his newly adopted alias	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	but who were you going to sell to again, as the exit strategy ?	[00:24]
DrewHorne	robert sillerman	[00:24]
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danielpbarron	Is anyone here familiar with Shamir's Secret Sharing Scheme? http://point-at-infinity.org/ssss/	[00:26]
assbot	ssss: Shamir's Secret Sharing Scheme	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron bout half those present i'd guess	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	DrewHorne aha ok.	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	!up Dimsler	[00:27]
-assbot-	You voiced Dimsler for 30 minutes.	[00:27]
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danielpbarron	is that a safe method to use?	[00:27]
DrewHorne	yessir, CEO of SFX entertainment	[00:27]
Dimsler	music festibals are aweful	[00:27]
Dimsler	entertainment venues just suck as investments	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron define safe.	[00:27]
danielpbarron	it's a default app in debian based systems i think; but openbsd doesn't have it	[00:27]
Dimsler	there isn't an exit strategy	[00:27]
Dimsler	popularity of the venue is the exit strategy	[00:28]
danielpbarron	mircea_popescu, can i depend on it to protect bitcoin?	[00:28]
DrewHorne	there is though, when someone has stated publicly that they plan on acquiring $1 billion worth of electronic music festival related assets	[00:28]
DrewHorne	and we would be using multiple venues across the country	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron if correctly implemented, you should be able to yes.	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	if not, many people, myself included, would love to hear about it	[00:28]
Dimsler	37m in sales?	[00:29]
Dimsler	what do you do?	[00:29]
bitcoinpete	http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/11/mpex-vs-the-play-bitcoin-exchanges/	[00:29]
assbot	MPEx vs. The Play Bitcoin Exchanges \| When Bitcoin Met Pete	[00:29]
Dimsler	sell $100 tickets? with 370k people annually?	[00:29]
bitcoinpete	gonna leave this here… now off to mother's day!	[00:30]
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mircea_popescu	DrewHorne that was the other question i was going to ask. prev discussion you had gross income of 1.5mn over $40 tickets and 4k attendance. these numbers are a degree of magnitude off, what gives ?	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	hai bitcoinpete	[00:30]
Dimsler	lol	[00:32]
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Dimsler	the income must be from a huge amount of venues	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	Dimsler no it was one concert in atlanta or florida or something	[00:32]
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Dimsler	how is this going to grow in 5yrs	[00:34]
Dimsler	to scale	[00:34]
fluffypony	Dimsler: moar venues I suppose	[00:34]
fluffypony	scale out instead of scaling up	[00:34]
Dimsler	the type of valuations that hes suggesting is crazy	[00:35]
Dimsler	-There is a great opportunity to get in early in Atlanta, an unsaturated market full of potential that is blowing up	[00:35]
Dimsler	in atlanta	[00:36]
Dimsler	how many people are you going to bleed	[00:36]
Dimsler	10x net profit for a standard established buisness	[00:36]
Dimsler	i think on something like a entertainment venue that can lose popularity max 4x profit	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	Dimsler well what's your prior experience in the field or why exactly do you think ?	[00:38]
fluffypony	Dimsler: I have nfi, I'm not in that space and don't know the location at all, I was just hazarding a guess :)	[00:39]
jurov	bitcoinpete you forgot to put pitbet referral in that link	[00:42]
jurov	*bitbet	[00:42]
jurov	lol	[00:42]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves http://devilsadvocate.biz/be-one-of-us/ << you'll have to form the habit to answer your commenters.	[00:42]
assbot	Be One of Us!	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	preferably the same day.	[00:42]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: maybe he's just silently agreeing with our comments :)	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	there's a silently perfect blog somewhere we're all silenty agreeing with im sure.	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	it's just you can't tell me it's url is all.	[00:44]
fluffypony	cors	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	!up DrewHorne	[00:46]
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DrewHorne	howdy	[00:46]
DrewHorne	so yea dimsler and fluffy that is accurate, we are planning to scale out over 5 years rather than up	[00:47]
DrewHorne	no other music festival has done that to the degree that we will be	[00:47]
DrewHorne	additionally we will have many small shows falling under the same brand name to increase brand awareness and build a following much faster than the traditional business model of one large show per year	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	DrewHorne in case you missed it, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2014#671858	[00:48]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[00:48]
benkay	can we get assbot to puke out actual log lines?	[00:48]
benkay	that'd be cool...	[00:48]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: "never interrupt your enemy while he's fucking himself with a pineaple." << but, if he forgot to pull the pin, helpfully unbend the whiskers and pull it for him - so long as you don't have to reach into enemy's arse...	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform why ?	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	benkay nah kind of spammy	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	well maybe not.	[00:49]
DrewHorne	we discussed that the event we have already thrown had a gross income of $1.5M?	[00:49]
DrewHorne	no it was much less than that	[00:49]
DrewHorne	our average ticket price was probably about $60 since the majority bought tickets at the door or close to the event time	[00:50]
DrewHorne	60*4000 is $240K	[00:50]
jurov	DrewHorne: are you going to sell tickets and pay some expenses in bitcoins?	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	DrewHorne http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#664008 < doesn't that imply 1.5mn gross ?	[00:51]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[00:51]
DrewHorne	yes, we will offer discounted tickets if you purchase via bitcoin	[00:51]
DrewHorne	as well as purchasing goods and services with bitcoin that we are able to if it is a prudent decision	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 859645 +778133	[00:51]
gribble	1637778	[00:51]
DrewHorne	bitcoin may very well save us some wire fees	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	1.63mn to be precise	[00:51]
DrewHorne	yes mircea that discussion was from the projected income statement of 2014	[00:52]
DrewHorne	that was not the income statement for the festival that has already occurred	[00:53]
DrewHorne	sorry for the confusion	[00:53]
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DrewHorne	if you check out the thread i just posted it has 2 screenshots of the income statements from the finances	[00:53]
DrewHorne	the one for 2014 and the one for 2018	[00:53]
DrewHorne	the numbers you just linked are listed under cost of goods sold for 2014	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	2018?!	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	and how the heck do you know within 10 dollars what your talent is going to cost ?	[00:55]
DrewHorne	its a 5 year plan remember	[00:55]
DrewHorne	we cant	[00:56]
DrewHorne	but we can know what we will spend on talent	[00:56]
DrewHorne	which is completely independent of what specific acts end up costing	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	you can't know what it's going to cost but you can know what you're going to spend, within a blowjob ?	[00:56]
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DrewHorne	these are just estimates obviously to help paint the picture	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	summarize for me in the same format the finances of the atlanta thing some people you may or may not be associated with actually organised, will ye.	[00:57]
DrewHorne	we have calculated padding in so that all of our costs should be less than what we have estimated them as	[00:57]
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DrewHorne	also i can message you on facebook from the official lunar massive facebook page to confirm my involvement if that would help	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	it can't help, i'm not on fb	[00:58]
DrewHorne	the finances i dont have on hand at the moment i would have to get them from one of my partners	[00:58]
Apocalyptic	also i can message you on facebook // really ? message mircea on facebook	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	but your involvement is not per se in question.	[00:58]
DrewHorne	right	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	we just don't know if you were involved as gofer or shot caller is all.	[00:58]
DrewHorne	well i can send you a screenshot of the admins of the page	[00:59]
DrewHorne	i think there are about 4-5	[00:59]
DrewHorne	me, my 2 edmutual partners, my flashpoint agency partner and his associate	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	do the finance summary thing, first.	[00:59]
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mircea_popescu	i wouldn't be too happy about you posting admin screenshots if i were your partners	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ttys.	[01:00]
DrewHorne	i think you would agree that it would be more likely that the people in charge of the operation adminned the page, rather than that i just happened to have admin in addition to all of the other shot-callers	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	DrewHorne no, i wouldn't so agree.	[01:00]
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mircea_popescu	the comsec practiced by people IN THE BUSINESS is appaling.	[01:00]
DrewHorne	i mean their names are public already	[01:00]
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DrewHorne	true	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	either that or snowden was chief of us intel and i never knew.	[01:00]
DrewHorne	ill have to grab that financial info from one of the other partners like i said	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	so if the fucking secret services can't get their shit together, what am i gonna ask of concert promoters	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	aite.	[01:01]
DrewHorne	believe me or not lol, i'll get back to you with it in a couple days	[01:01]
benkay	i think you would agree that it would be more likely that the people in charge of the operation adminned the page, rather than that i just happened to have admin in addition to all of the other shot-callers // or you're the social media guy, how do i know	[01:01]
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DrewHorne	do none of yall use social media at all?	[01:02]
DrewHorne	i guess not lol	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	https://twitter.com/witheiler/status/465559224442179584	[01:02]
assbot	Still rings true http://t.co/pxaBWmT5Dt	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	aw shit i thought it was one of mine	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	lemme find a good one	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/465596128403394561	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	there	[01:02]
assbot	http://t.co/iQvSWOp1Be << check out how fucking racist /BloombergNews is. Hey journos! Your not doing research doesn't make reality go away	[01:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.03075001 = 0.5535 BTC [-]	[01:02]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla <<	[01:02]
DrewHorne	so twitter but not facebook then	[01:03]
mircea_popescu	just in my case.	[01:04]
mircea_popescu	i think some heretics here do have facebooks but won't admit it because they still wanna be counted as cool	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	CLOSETED FACEBOOKIANS!	[01:05]
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kakobrekla	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/465596128403394561	[01:05]
assbot	http://t.co/iQvSWOp1Be << check out how fucking racist /BloombergNews is. Hey journos! Your not doing research doesn't make reality go away	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla ''	[01:05]
kakobrekla	lel	[01:05]
mircea_popescu	lol	[01:05]
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kakobrekla	https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/465596128403394561	[01:06]
assbot	http://t.co/iQvSWOp1Be << check out how fucking racist /BloombergNews is. Hey journos! Your not doing research doesn't make reality go away	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	lub joo.	[01:06]
kakobrekla	uhum	[01:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 14 @ 0.041 = 0.574 BTC [-]	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	CheckDavid do you periodically ask about colored coins or is my memory just failing me ?	[01:13]
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-CheckDavid-	u troll	[01:15]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla did paranoia or w/e it's called lose any bitcoin this month yet ?	[01:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	paranormia	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	wtf was it	[01:19]
mircea_popescu	panarama ?	[01:20]
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mircea_popescu	!up bravetheworld	[01:21]
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benkay	o lookie bravetheworld joined us	[01:22]
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bravetheworld	hiya	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	hello. who are you ?	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	hanbot o right. pannacotta	[01:23]
benkay	bravetheworld: i was chuckling over https://vine.co/v/MrKaIKV5Zan/ earlier	[01:24]
assbot	#america #freedom #libertarian #liberty #sarcasm	[01:25]
bravetheworld	princessnell sent me	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	o hey.	[01:25]
bravetheworld	hahah ye had to get on that #mynypd hash	[01:25]
benkay	;;gettrust princessnell	[01:25]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask princessnell!~princessn@unaffiliated/princessnell. Trust relationship from user benkay to user princessnell: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=princessnell \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=princessnell \| Rated since: Thu May 8 16:20:29 2014	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwvySkrUBlA < that you ?	[01:25]
assbot	Basic Bitcoin Bitches - YouTube	[01:25]
mircea_popescu	;;rated princessnell	[01:26]
gribble	You have not yet rated user princessnell	[01:26]
bravetheworld	more bitcoin freedom preaching manifesting	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	;;rate princessnell 1 procurer for the #bitcoin-assets dungeon.	[01:26]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user princessnell has been recorded.	[01:26]
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mircea_popescu	!up dudesir	[01:26]
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dudesir	So I can speak? Thanks Mircea	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	you can't dance, and you can't walk	[01:27]
mircea_popescu	only thing about you is the way that you talk...	[01:27]
dudesir	Lol	[01:27]
dudesir	how poetic	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	so start with telling the group who you are.	[01:28]
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dudesir	Oh, im some dude on the internet. Lol. we chatted a month or so ago, I asked about MPex and stuff	[01:28]
mircea_popescu	aha	[01:28]
dudesir	I came here again on the same topic... just wanted to ask you a quick question	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	shoot	[01:29]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu nothing significant yet http://bit4x.com/panacea/history/	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	a ty	[01:29]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla can that also include a totalisator at bottom ?	[01:30]
dudesir	the fees for joining... you said 30 BTC... is that going to stay in BTC value, if it goes up (im assuming it would stay) or pegged to fiat, and if you will let people know if/when it goes up (twitter or something)	[01:30]
kakobrekla	prolly but dunno if that is helpful much	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	dudesir "That fee was waived for about a month during the beta, so at the very least it'd have to be a combination of extortion with laziness. Then it was 20 BTC. Now it's 30 BTC. The fee is projected to keep going up for the undetermined future."	[01:30]
mircea_popescu	from the ever helpful faq. http://mpex.co/faq.html#17	[01:31]
kakobrekla	im hoping mike_c will come up with some anal tools for this	[01:31]
princessnell	bravetheworld hey girl! glad you stopped by	[01:31]
decimation	mircea: nevertheless, the legal theory would be presented that it is in fact actgively engaged in criminal activity, and as shoddy as that legal teory may be, it will actually carry in most western courts. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MraVxLNkYZk	[01:31]
assbot	AMFAS - Giving the Devil Benefit of Law.mp4 - YouTube	[01:31]
bravetheworld	taking it all in	[01:31]
princessnell	you will get the hang of it	[01:31]
bravetheworld	thanks for inviting me princessnell	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld so are you seriously trying to sell me on the concept that "basic bitch" is... an adjective ?	[01:31]
mircea_popescu	what, like a two word compound adjective ?	[01:32]
dudesir	Mircea, so will it be sprung upon us or will you let us know? ... I don't have much funds but I would very much like to be included at some point and will try to do so according to my ..money	[01:32]
bravetheworld	it can be either noun or adjective sure	[01:32]
mircea_popescu	dudesir you know you can just use a broker ? it makes little sense to acquire a mpex seat out of your last bitcoins.	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	decimation ahaha nice	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	why's tha guy look liek gmaxwell ?	[01:33]
bravetheworld	I'm more interested in "selling" the idea of bitcoin is a tool for liberation	[01:34]
dudesir	Right, I suppose I want a seat for more a more ethereal presitigious reason at this point as I am still unclear on the benefits.	[01:34]
bravetheworld	everything else is good fun	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld liberation from what ?	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	dudesir i see.	[01:35]
bravetheworld	from control	[01:35]
dudesir	I guess that is good for now, I'll do more research when I have the time and come back when I have more to discuss. Thanks Mircea	[01:35]
mircea_popescu	np.	[01:35]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld power is nothing without control.	[01:35]
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mircea_popescu	should you be free of it, you couldn't date for being a puddle on the floor.	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	you ever watch cow and chicken ?	[01:36]
HeySteve	mircea_popescu, I was wondering if you have a source for one of your claims about the bitcoin foundation	[01:36]
bravetheworld	exactly.	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	HeySteve specifically ?	[01:37]
kakobrekla	whats the cow and chicken story	[01:37]
HeySteve	section IV of http://trilema.com/2014/the-sins-of-the-group-of-posers-behind-the-so-called-bitcoin-foundation/	[01:37]
princessnell	ya i'm on the edge of my seat	[01:37]
assbot	The sins of the group of posers behind the so called “Bitcoin Foundation” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[01:37]
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HeySteve	all 3 claims in fact	[01:37]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla http://www.viki.com/videos/212547v-cow-and-chicken-season-2-boneless-chicken-episode-3	[01:39]
assbot	Cow and Chicken Season 2 Episode 3: Boneless Chicken - Watch Full Episodes Free - United States - TV Shows - Viki	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	always struck me as the paragon of liberation.	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	HeySteve it would seem to me you just cited the source ?	[01:40]
mircea_popescu	i do not run some sort of braindamaged online encyclopedia. i run the font of truth.	[01:40]
mircea_popescu	there's a difference.	[01:40]
HeySteve	well you know, statements in the public record by foundation members is what I was looking for	[01:41]
decimation	since ancient times, it has been known that the only coherent work of knowledge is that which arises from one mind	[01:41]
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kakobrekla	meh i get 'sorry this video is not available in your region'	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	HeySteve to repurpose decimation's earlier link, the foundation members couldn't answer for themselves as far as tonight.	[01:42]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla move out of somalia ? :D	[01:42]
HeySteve	I would need more evidence to back such claims if I publish them	[01:43]
bravetheworld	+mirces_popescu regarding my classification of "basic bitch" as an adjective (although I use it as a noun in the video) I see it as a description of a state of mind.	[01:43]
mircea_popescu	HeySteve you will need to do a lot of research to enter such complex field anyway.	[01:44]
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mircea_popescu	bravetheworld if you care, i see it as an extension of the "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ef_q1_uoQdouchecanoe" nonsense, as typified here :	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ef_q1_uoQ	[01:44]
assbot	Douche Canoe An Original Song - YouTube	[01:44]
bravetheworld	haha alright	[01:45]
jurov	dudesir you can do the research using coinbr, right now and with 0.1btc only	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	to make short work of it, either i'm a curmudgeon or else words don't really have the power you think they do.	[01:46]
jurov	oh he§s gone	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	jurov he loves me not you, so nyah.	[01:47]
benkay	mircea_popescu: you? a curmudgeon?	[01:47]
jurov	:'(	[01:47]
bravetheworld	you don't know what I think, or else you think you have a power you don't really have	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[01:48]
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mircea_popescu	where's that 70s song	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRv9wGf5pk	[01:48]
assbot	Snap - I ve Got The power - YouTube	[01:48]
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mircea_popescu	!up toddf	[01:50]
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princessnell	bravetheworld what was the general response to your video?	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	!up chetty	[01:50]
-assbot-	You voiced chetty for 30 minutes.	[01:50]
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mircea_popescu	hola argentina	[01:50]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu ahhh the age of communicating through cultural references is upon us	[01:51]
benkay	chetty: argentina?	[01:51]
chetty	hey there, was looking at the earlier logs	[01:51]
chetty	I haven{t seen a cc used in a month	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld you know, that's the definition of scholarship.	[01:51]
chetty	Shops don't even ask	[01:51]
HeySteve	mircea_popescu, I'm willing to do the research	[01:52]
mircea_popescu	HeySteve cool!	[01:52]
chetty	yeah argentina ;)	[01:52]
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mircea_popescu	!up bravetheworld	[01:52]
-assbot-	You voiced bravetheworld for 30 minutes.	[01:52]
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benkay	argentina++? chetty?	[01:52]
mircea_popescu	chetty all it needs is a lake of stu one can paddle around in a big canoe and we're all there	[01:52]
benkay	are you in b.a. or...	[01:52]
chetty	yes benkay I am currently there, BA	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	benkay yes she is in bitcoin-assets. is this dog ?	[01:53]
benkay	horp dorp dorp	[01:53]
chetty	lol	[01:53]
bravetheworld	+mircea_popescu top of /bitcoin, publicly endorsed by Andreas antonopoulos, charlie shrem, amir taaki, wired writer andy greenberg..etc. then some guy who hated my anti-feminist work posted me on /cringe :D so got some hate from people who don't know what bitcoin is...basic bitches	[01:53]
benkay	anyways hang out for a while bravetheworld	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	lol cute.	[01:54]
bravetheworld	+benkay i'll try	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	+bravetheworld so what's your future plans ?	[01:55]
bravetheworld	im trying to figure out how to correctly participate	[01:55]
chetty	anyway, I am liking the world without all the plastic	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	to quote mpoe-pr from two hours ago on a totally different topic, " interesting to see where people's musing and fascination get them, dead right in some places, idiosyncratically caulked in others".	[01:55]
bravetheworld	I recently got asked to write for bitcoin magazine, so I'm finishing up bitcoin's declaration of independence to publish with them	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	haha. i suppose la serenissima carries no meaning with you ?	[01:56]
bravetheworld	which will elaborate further on my sentiment	[01:56]
benkay	chetty: do you find it a bit run down at the corners?	[01:56]
bravetheworld	i suppose it does not	[01:57]
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benkay	!up CheckDavid	[01:57]
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mike_c	what kind of totaliser are you looking for? I think I already have 3 different kinds	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	mike_c i just want the equivalent of	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	!jd mpif	[01:57]
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CheckDavid	mircea_popescu: I praise you for being a good troll	[01:57]
CheckDavid	Thanks benkay	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	holy shit half a day for a tenth of a cent wtf omg.	[01:57]
chetty	not really, many parts of US are worse	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	CheckDavid what's this, the famous last words competition ?	[01:58]
CheckDavid	Last words comp?	[01:58]
CheckDavid	What's that?	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld anyway, to make the cultural references plain : the idea that bitcoin is a superstate, and well independent already is not novel.	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	amply covered in extand literature.	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	just, not the sort of literature taaki or anonowhoever can read.	[01:59]
chetty	well perhaps its time they did	[01:59]
bravetheworld	did I claim to be original?	[01:59]
mircea_popescu	(taaki because http://trilema.com/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and-continues-to-do-huge-disservice-to-anyone-serious-involved-in-bitcoin/ ; antono* because he shilled for neobee and mpoe-pr bitchslapped him into irelevancy)	[01:59]
CheckDavid	Why do you direct a question at me in the channel and don't voice?	[01:59]
assbot	Amir Taaki has done, and continues to do, huge disservice to anyone serious involved in Bitcoin. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[02:00]
mike_c	i will have something similar to that in place soon. and kako could easily tie it into assbot.	[02:00]
princessnell	she is a communicator MP	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld nono, dun bristle at me. i'm not trying to eat you.	[02:00]
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mircea_popescu	i guess it may seem so, but really, i'm peaceful.	[02:00]
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bravetheworld	mircea_popescu most people interested in bitcoin miss this. I want people to understand, i want to make it clear. because it is denied and shrugged off, or just missed	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	princessnell just trying to give her good ammo.	[02:01]
chetty	mark your calendars, MP is peaceful	[02:01]
benkay	or you could hang out with people who already get it, bravetheworld	[02:01]
benkay	chetty: he's also not trying to eat the young lady.	[02:01]
benkay	will wonders etc etc	[02:01]
CheckDavid	mircea_popescu: do you prefer if I pm you?	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	CheckDavid i don't think our relationship is advanced enough for that yet.	[02:02]
CheckDavid	Then why do you direct a question at me in the channel and don't voice?	[02:02]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu i do. i met Charlie, I chill with Amir and Cody...I converse with the community (recently) ...but I want others to understand.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	because i don't keep a very neat accounting of who's voiced.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	sorry about that.	[02:02]
CheckDavid	Ok good	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld which cody is that ?	[02:03]
princessnell	wilson	[02:03]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu *chilled	[02:03]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu dark wallet	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	a the gun printer guy. mixed company huh.	[02:03]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu i didn't fully get it myself until I was exposed to this community, so I understand why other don't either	[02:04]
princessnell	seems like the jobs to amir's woz	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	"Fifth day of living only on Bitcoin: I pay for ramen & strippers with the cryptocash"	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	behold, reddit has just been summarized. by forbes.	[02:04]
princessnell	lol kash	[02:04]
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benkay	blowstamps	[02:05]
benkay	lolkash	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck pays for strippers and ramen. do those go together in any possible universe ?!	[02:05]
benkay	buttcoins	[02:05]
princessnell	when u want tehclicks, sure	[02:05]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu peter todd is nice too. and mr. jeff tucker also said some insightful things to me about bitcoin. i try to keep my ears open u know	[02:05]
princessnell	jeff tucker is a lizard tourist	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld good for you.	[02:05]
bravetheworld	+princessnell lizard tourist?	[02:05]
princessnell	bravetheworld he's all about the #brand. i don't trust him.	[02:06]
princessnell	bravetheworld but he will boost if you need it.	[02:06]
Apocalyptic	dem lizards	[02:06]
benkay	liberty.me has a facebook login	[02:06]
bravetheworld	+princessnell nonetheless, he said "Bitcoin is a model for the future of humanity" i do like that	[02:07]
benkay	waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	benkay i believe the expression is "words collide". they just did.	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	i am savouring the temporary silence of the original aftershock.	[02:07]
bravetheworld	hehe	[02:07]
princessnell	bravetheworld just be weary is all. he is really pozzed out. wouldn't take kindly 2 yr antifeminism for instance.	[02:08]
benkay	my tiny little brain can't cope	[02:08]
benkay	princessnell: pozzed?	[02:08]
mircea_popescu	princessnell wait, how did she slip that past anton's radar ?	[02:08]
mircea_popescu	is he really THAT bad at dd ?	[02:08]
bravetheworld	+princessnell really? he watched some of my videos..(or so he said) and was very sweet in person	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	yes. because you're a woman, and he's a geek.	[02:09]
bravetheworld	+mircea_popescu hahaha. i guess	[02:09]
princessnell	bravetheworld truly. he is predatory.	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	this is so much lulz rly.	[02:09]
princessnell	benkay pozzed is mpc speak for cathedraldrone	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	princessnell ethymology on that ?	[02:10]
princessnell	mircea_popescu heh. like: HIV positive	[02:10]
princessnell	poz	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	o boy.	[02:10]
bravetheworld	+princessnell i KEEP hearing this. but he's married and Christian no? because of course that means a lot these day...but he seemed to have a ron paulian grandfather charm to him. but alas, I am only a naive girl	[02:10]
mircea_popescu	you're a buncha meanies aren't you.	[02:10]
benkay	wow	[02:11]
benkay	pozzed	[02:11]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld so did you get nom-nom-inated for the foundation journalism of great insight awards ?	[02:11]
benkay	princessnell: mpc?	[02:11]
bravetheworld	+mircea_popescu lol	[02:12]
princessnell	bravetheworld ya, i know him IRL. reports from many of my friends. can't invite him to certain events bc of it.	[02:12]
princessnell	benkay my posting career	[02:12]
bravetheworld	princessnell Oh shit "IRL" taked me back to my WoW days	[02:12]
bravetheworld	takes*	[02:13]
benkay	my posting career // WTH AM I LOOKING AT	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	that's like... 5 years ?	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	benkay there's a number of underbeliies to the internet, son.	[02:13]
princessnell	benkay lol	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	i was hoping we can shield you from this truth for longer	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	but alas...	[02:13]
benkay	it's just...the dumb	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	no. it's the young.	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	there's a difference, if unapparent.	[02:14]
princessnell	sorry i should have put a trigger warning	[02:15]
benkay	the wacky underbelly isn't what surprises me, it's the..."motherfucking salon"	[02:15]
benkay	lol ya trigger warning tyvm	[02:15]
mircea_popescu	!b 2	[02:15]
mircea_popescu	shit.	[02:15]
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benkay	C-C-C-C	[02:15]
benkay	-COMBO BREAKER!	[02:16]
benkay	srsly people i gave you all day with that one.	[02:16]
benkay	!up bravetheworld	[02:16]
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bravetheworld	thank you	[02:17]
jurov	um... er... last 15 mins is like multilayered inside joke	[02:17]
jurov	not getting any of that	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	hory shilt!!! i knew that skinnkavaj name sounded familiar, check this out :	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=9	[02:17]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets bash	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	jurov it's heterodox joke. not your cup.	[02:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.47000005 = 0.94 BTC [-] {2}	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	but basically some girls showed up and broke the variety speak.	[02:18]
princessnell	shame on me	[02:18]
princessnell	need2 lurk moar still huh	[02:18]
mircea_popescu	now you're going to have to wear a scarlet final L.	[02:18]
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bravetheworld	benkay so who is everyone?	[02:18]
mircea_popescu	princessnell it's not broken in a bad way anyway.	[02:18]
jurov	and how comes bengay got it?	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	jurov he's a virgin	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	they have powers.	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	https://twitter.com/Beautyon_/status/465631952813719552 << this guy is making me blush.	[02:20]
assbot	Imagine having daily conversations with Steve Jobs in the early 80â²s or Mayer Rothschild in the early 1800â²s. /Mircea_Popescu is like that.	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla â²â²	[02:20]
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bounce	whosat?	[02:21]
HeySteve	mircea_popescu, I'm going to link to the article and say you alleged 1, 2 & 3 but declined to provide evidence.	[02:21]
bravetheworld	I followed him the other day	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	a twitter guy. he doesn't wanna come to here i don't think	[02:21]
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mircea_popescu	HeySteve i see no problem with that.	[02:21]
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HeySteve	mircea_popescu, all right cool. I'm covering this Brock Pierce mess and urging TBF to clean up their act	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	Transisto yo wtf.	[02:22]
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bravetheworld	mircea_popescu applebaum follows you...jelly. what a hearttrobb	[02:22]
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kakobrekla	https://twitter.com/Beautyon_/status/465631952813719552 << this guy is making me blush.	[02:23]
assbot	Imagine having daily conversations with Steve Jobs in the early 80â²s or Mayer Rothschild in the early 1800â²s. /Mircea_Popescu is like that.	[02:23]
kakobrekla	meh	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	fail :D	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld who's the heartrob, me or him?	[02:23]
benkay	bravetheworld: mircea_popescu runs mpex, kakobrekla runs bitbet, jurov runs coinbr, davout runs bitcoin-central, chetty runs eulora, hanbot runs the whips, and that's about all the notables	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	benkay no it's not.	[02:24]
benkay	i kid. everyone in here's notable.	[02:24]
bounce	"no I'm not"	[02:24]
benkay	somewhere in between is the truth.	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	dooglus runs just dice, BingoBoingo runs the drinking record, benkay runs in circles	[02:24]
benkay	real fast.	[02:25]
benkay	real real real fast.	[02:25]
benkay	bitcoinpete runs bitcoinpete	[02:25]
benkay	uhhh	[02:25]
benkay	pankkake trolls	[02:25]
benkay	not as well as tiberius, though	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	lampelina runs kakobrekla, pigeons runs messages, ThickAsThieves used to run passhtroughs	[02:25]
mike_c	and created Altcoin	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	tim-tams runs what was it, a show ?	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	mike_c runs what did you run again ?	[02:25]
benkay	lol yeah lampelina	[02:25]
jurov	Apocalyptic runs x-bt	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony runs all the shitty altcoins i can't remember	[02:26]
benkay	btcalpha	[02:26]
mike_c	i run the most powerful blog in btc, capable of moving market caps 30% in a single day.	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	mod6 runs atcbot	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	diametric runs like 7 or 8 3d printers	[02:26]
benkay	kakobrekla also runs assbot	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	ALL AT THE SAME TIME	[02:26]
benkay	HOW DOES HE DO IT	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	while his wife is waiting for him to come to bed alfuckingready	[02:26]
Apocalyptic	capable of moving market caps 30% in a single day. // on the ATC/BTC market maybe	[02:26]
benkay	i have trouble controlling a single pwm drive	[02:26]
jurov	lol even Ukyo is still on, with his disciple dotcoin on guest appearances	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic no cause he fudded mpex and it dropped once	[02:26]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu the bisexual one of the 2	[02:26]
HeySteve	I run my mouth on a news site and might do some more interesting stuff in future	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	^	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld i'm not bisexual except in the sense that i fuck women in both holes	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	dub runs like 1/7th or so of all the internets	[02:27]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu uhu	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	Graet runs a major pool but i forget which	[02:27]
benkay	thestringpuller used to trade options	[02:27]
jurov	...except in the sense that i fuck women in both holes<< that's bidirectional	[02:27]
Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu, I see	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	Jezzz runs ozbot	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	jurov isn't bidirectional when they also fuck me ?	[02:28]
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mircea_popescu	justusranvier runs the sanity of bitcoin during his rare moments of clarity	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	Naphex runs btcx.ro	[02:28]
jurov	mircea_popescu no, that's bilateral	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	khersonus what do you run again ?	[02:28]
bravetheworld	what have I started	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	Luke-Jr ruins the cryptoz	[02:28]
princessnell	bravetheworld this is gr8.	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	and i could keep goiing.	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	but eventually one has to stop.	[02:29]
bounce	lies	[02:29]
mircea_popescu	skinnkavaj runs the chan bash	[02:29]
benkay	no the bash runs on vexual	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	o that too.	[02:30]
benkay	;;seen vexual	[02:30]
gribble	vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 56 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: dms becomes redundant	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	topace runs the risk	[02:30]
benkay	asciilifeform makes widgets and is more of a smug lisp weenie than me	[02:30]
mircea_popescu	benkay but he doesn't run anything.	[02:30]
benkay	he runs his own thing?	[02:31]
benkay	he runs his own thing.	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	no, i run his own thing. he just works there.	[02:31]
mircea_popescu	except if shtf, of course.	[02:31]
bravetheworld	princessnell heh	[02:31]
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mircea_popescu	jurov i dunno what fucking you've been to, but there's nothing motherfucking lateral about it.	[02:33]
mircea_popescu	what is this, swallows ?	[02:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 45 @ 0.041 = 1.845 BTC [-]	[02:34]
jurov	adjective: lateral : of, at, towards, or from the side or sides.	[02:34]
benkay	mircea_popescu: but out there for his clients he runs his own thing.	[02:34]
mircea_popescu	jurov lateral bitch ?	[02:34]
benkay	i dunno. bad intel.	[02:34]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu & benkay do you mind if I ask what you guys do? or let me rephrase. what is your participation in bitcoin? just interested to know the crowd	[02:35]
mircea_popescu	cute i say	[02:35]
benkay	i derp	[02:36]
benkay	i acquire bitcoins by building things. sometimes i have to take some other paper first.	[02:37]
bravetheworld	hehe	[02:37]
bravetheworld	welcome to derp nation, population everyone	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	bravetheworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3449849#msg3449849 there	[02:38]
assbot	Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	i'm the richest guy you've ever met, and if i can help it, the richest guy you'll ever meet.	[02:38]
bravetheworld	mircea_popescu don't consider this meeting but noted	[02:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00100347 = 8.5295 BTC [+]	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	s/met/ran into/	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	w/e	[02:40]
bravetheworld	I remember being on silk road and almost getting some bitcoin for drug purposes	[02:40]
bravetheworld	but then my dealer came through., goddammit.	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	did you almost shoot a gun also ?	[02:41]
mircea_popescu	oic.	[02:41]
bravetheworld	I shoot trap on the weekends if I can help it	[02:41]
benkay	!up bravetheworld	[02:41]
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bravetheworld	the almosts make life funny no?	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell bitcoinpete dude it wasn't in my back yard, it was at like a hotel and everything.	[02:43]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[02:43]
bravetheworld	*waiting for zinger reply from mircea_popescu	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell bitcoinpete i also don't own half of every stock, such as for instance s.nsa, where i'm an implied minority (via ssws)	[02:44]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[02:44]
benkay	pahaha	[02:45]
bravetheworld	benkay building things, like coding? of literally	[02:45]
benkay	implying there's a difference, bravetheworld.	[02:45]
bravetheworld	benkay truth	[02:45]
benkay	i do business consulting. occasionally the procurement of software gets involved.	[02:45]
ThickAsThieves	so behind on log...	[02:45]
benkay	less frequently of late the procurement of actual parts gets involved, but that may change.	[02:48]
bravetheworld	benkay> sounds like you're building a secret android	[02:50]
bravetheworld	lady-droid for fun fun or the grilling of steaks please	[02:50]
benkay	nothing so silly	[02:50]
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bravetheworld	benkay aw	[02:50]
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benkay	i only keep around real ladies, and they do the steaks just fine tyvm	[02:50]
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benkay	'tin woman'.	[02:51]
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benkay	;;google trilema too much money	[02:51]
gribble	The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Let's dig a little deeper into this entire deflation “problem” pe Trilema ...: ; Idiocy without borders / Idiots sans frontieres pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: (1 more message)	[02:51]
bravetheworld	benkay Helen Of Alloy	[02:51]
benkay	ouch	[02:51]
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benkay	anyways bravetheworld we take identity pretty seriously around here. consider getting yourself into the #bitcoin-otc web of trust so you can hang out and talk more without the incessant	[02:53]
benkay	!up bravetheworld	[02:53]
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benkay	;;google bitcoin wot beginners guide	[02:53]
gribble	Beginners Guide - bitcoin-otc wiki: ; Beginner's Guide - Bitcoin Forum: ; For 'World of Tanks' Fans: WOTcoin Can be Used for Purchasing ...:	[02:53]
jurov	http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets just found out we have got nice tutorial	[02:53]
assbot	first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]	[02:53]
benkay	lol	[02:54]
benkay	"random naked females can be returned by"	[02:54]
benkay	.bait	[02:54]
benkay	is ozbot even running?	[02:54]
benkay	.h	[02:54]
bravetheworld	benkay alright	[02:57]
benkay	ping if you hit a wall.	[02:58]
benkay	;;google perfect gpg keypair	[02:58]
gribble	Creating the perfect GPG keypair - Alex Cabal: ; Creating the perfect GPG keypair : netsec - Reddit: ; Creating the perfect GPG keypair with Gpg4win and Enigmail - Reddit: (1 more message)	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	;;gettrust assbot princessnell	[02:59]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask princessnell!~princessn@unaffiliated/princessnell. Trust relationship from user assbot to user princessnell: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=princessnell \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=princessnell \| Rated since: Thu May 8 16:20:29 2014	[02:59]
bravetheworld	benkay thank you again. i got to be on my grind now, take care all. nice "meeting" you :)	[02:59]
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benkay	later	[03:00]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLPM-P7mNQw	[03:23]
assbot	Cartman - Whateva, I do what I want - YouTube	[03:23]
mircea_popescu	http://pando.com/2014/05/08/exclusive-christie-officials-gave-millions-in-taxpayer-funds-to-major-tech-vc-in-apparent-violation-of-pay-to-play-rules/	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	lulzy	[03:28]
assbot	EXCLUSIVE: Christie officials gave millions in public funds to VC firm, despite “pay to play” rules \| PandoDaily	[03:28]
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mircea_popescu	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnXT6_uIQAIgJ3z.jpg << anti surveillance mask.	[03:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-]	[03:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.041 = 0.533 BTC [-]	[03:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.07258866 = 1.3792 BTC [+] {2}	[03:47]
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benkay	discuss	[03:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]	[03:58]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.cnet.com/news/photographers-howl-at-amazon-patent-of-decades-old-idea/?utm_content=bufferc78fe&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer	[04:11]
assbot	Photographers howl at Amazon patent of decades-old idea - CNET	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	so amazon now has a patent on the concept of the white wall	[04:11]
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BingoBoingo	It seems so.	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	i guess bitcoin bourse guy should patent the website that sells things	[04:19]
Apocalyptic	he should definitely patent his orderbook	[04:19]
Apocalyptic	with order expiration time shown, and no trade log	[04:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]	[04:23]
thestringpuller	;;ud circle jerk	[04:23]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=circlejerk \| 1.) When a group of males sit in a circle, jerking each other off. 2.) NOT when a group of males stand in a circle to jerk off onto a cookie or a...	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	"Being of thought and freedom. Working on my financial future through proper investments in BTC, and working on becoming a poker master."	[04:24]
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thestringpuller	;;ud limp bizkit	[04:26]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=limp%20bizkit \| The only rule about Limp Bizkit is you either love them oir hate them. Metal Fan: GODDAMN Faggoty-Fagggot Ass Limp Bizkit!!! I fuckin' hate Fred Durst with his ...	[04:26]
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decimation	re: patents http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/09/how-a-rogue-appeals-court-wrecked-the-patent-system/	[04:35]
assbot	How a rogue appeals court wrecked the patent system \| Ars Technica	[04:35]
decimation	this is relevant to the latest google v oracle decision: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2014/05/10/oracle-google.html	[04:38]
assbot	Federal Appeals Court Decision in Oracle v. Google - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn )	[04:38]
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danielpbarron	heh, that's the twitter profile description of an associate of mine	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	decimation not a bad write-up;	[04:45]
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mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[04:47]
decimation	yeah it seems like the basic problem is that there is no coherent law, so the courts are faced with either making stuff up or continually pawning the problem off onto someone else	[04:48]
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mircea_popescu	stronger than that : the prestige of people judging it depends on them giving out patent support.	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	wrong incentive structure.	[04:50]
decimation	yes, it is pretty clear that the "patent system" has been captured by those who are enriched by patents	[04:50]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, the guy does miss an impoirtant point : small companies can indeed opt out of patent trollage : they incorporate on mpex, as per bitcoin rules.	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	instant us patent immunity.	[04:51]
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decimation	the trouble is that if they are incorporated in the US, they might make USG an enemy	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	they don't have to incorporate in the us.	[04:52]
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benkay	one might go so far as to say that listing on mpex and incorporating in the states are mutually exclusive at this time.	[04:53]
Apocalyptic	one might indeed	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	so they are.	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	you can be a bitcoin registered corp	[04:54]
decimation	well, they are certainly taking a big risk	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	or else you can be a fiat registered corp	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	decimation arguably NOT incorporating on mpex is taking an even bigger risk.	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	we'd all love this situation where there's a way to avoid all risk. nevertheless, that's a counterfactual. irl, adults have to pick a poison at all times.	[04:55]
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aegis	agamemnon23 akstunt600 aldur1 Anduck Anon29486307 Apocalyptic arij artifexd assbot atcbot Azelphur	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	!up aldur1	[04:55]
-assbot-	You voiced aldur1 for 30 minutes.	[04:55]
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decimation	yes, this is certainly true	[04:55]
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decimation	this supposed bitcoin etf, although not new, might be a harbinger of the next leg up in bitcoin v. USD	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	experience shows that the various fiat side efforts have pretty much zero impact on bitcoin price, you know ?	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	terribly difficult to predict, too.	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[04:59]
mircea_popescu	even gribble's given up	[04:59]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 439.35, Best ask: 440.51, Bid-ask spread: 1.16000, Last trade: 440.51, 24 hour volume: 8881.04229449, 24 hour low: 429.6, 24 hour high: 456.27, 24 hour vwap: 440.711490321	[04:59]
decimation	this is true. but the usd price of gold went up quite a bit after the gold ETF's opened up	[04:59]
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mircea_popescu	wasn't that more related to various red talk shows pumping iot ?	[05:00]
decimation	Yes, I think so. But it was also the first time that it was easy to buy "gold" in your 401k account	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	i thought that's been available for decades.	[05:02]
mircea_popescu	just, they hadn't figured out how to "market" it till recently.	[05:02]
mircea_popescu	besides, couldn't have marketed it during dot com bubble, nor during the intervening contraction	[05:03]
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decimation	yeah, it's hard to separate all of the confounding factors	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	!up donvino	[05:04]
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mircea_popescu	decimation the nonsense of holding gold "in your 401k" is so amusing to me.	[05:05]
mike_c	certainly something will be used to explain the rise after the next bump. always gotta be a reason or we have to admit we have no clue.	[05:05]
decimation	well, it's a hilarity forced upon the us by the USG	[05:06]
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decimation	plenty of US citizens 'hold gold' but have never touched the metal	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	in that sense, they're probably also married to women i fuck.	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	they... um. hold their hand ?	[05:06]
decimation	some computer says that some other computer says that it has a gold bar, but they can't touch it	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if zee germans have got their gold back btw,	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	and what the relation is exactly between that and the current ukraine stuff.	[05:08]
decimation	heh yeah last I read they were being told that they can get their gold "real soon now"	[05:08]
decimation	see, there about $70 trillion assets in the world	[05:08]
decimation	http://www.ici.org/research/stats/retirement/ret_13_q4	[05:08]
assbot	ICI - Release: Quarterly Retirement Market Data, Fourth Quarter 2013	[05:08]
decimation	$23 trillion are in us "retirement assets"	[05:08]
decimation	that's pretty much the whole bezzle right there	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	i tihnk the first rule of embezzle is that you can never know how much bezzle there is.	[05:09]
decimation	no. try to find out exactly how many dollars there are in the world, for instance	[05:09]
decimation	it's easy to count circulated (and counterfeit!) printed dollars	[05:09]
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decimation	the number of dollars that could exist, if the Fed or USG wanted them to, are uncountable	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	hm	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	no, actually, that has to be countable.	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	upper bound by the finite carbon atoms count on earth :D	[05:11]
decimation	hehe yeah	[05:12]
decimation	Italy too apparently: http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1399032000.php	[05:12]
assbot	GoldCore Reports Half of Italy's Gold is Held in New York Fed Vault; Is Repatriation Possible?	[05:12]
decimation	" Banca d?Italia reveals that 1,199.4 tonnes, or nearly half the total, is held in the Bank?s own vaults under its Palazzo Koch headquarters on Via Nazionale in Rome, while most of the other half is stored in the Federal Reserve Bank gold vault in New York."	[05:12]
decimation	http://www.ibtimes.com/german-gold-makes-it-way-back-home-fed-slowly-1563651 "Germany?s gold repatriation program, whereby the nation?s central bank is recalling 674 metric tons from vaults in New York and Paris, is progressing slowly. About 69 tons have returned to Frankfurt so far."	[05:14]
assbot	German Gold Makes It Way Back Home From Fed, Slowly	[05:14]
decimation	lol about 10%	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	in what paralel universe does italy hold 2k tons of gold ?	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	what's this, some joke ?	[05:14]
decimation	"dude your gold is all here, we just need to find it"	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	get out of here, they have exactly 0 claim to it.	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	italy is insolvent.	[05:14]
decimation	well, to be precise, there are probably many claims, and theirs is junior	[05:15]
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decimation	it was probably all sold off years ago under some Fed "lease" program	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	typical italian "let's stick ourselves into things".	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	entire fucking country consists of three people translating german newspapers and the rest trying to make a commedia del'arte version of what they understood of it.	[05:17]
decimation	probably most of that 2k tonne is what was left when Germany pulled out in WWII	[05:17]
BCB	mircea_popescu, I hear you are joining the Bitcoin Foundation	[05:19]
mircea_popescu	from whom ?	[05:20]
decimation	Südtirol is pretty nice. but it's pretty much owned by the Austrians	[05:21]
benkay	!up SuchWow	[05:21]
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benkay	what are the doggy coiners doing here?	[05:22]
decimation	When I first heard of dogecoins I thought that they were making a reference to the doge of Venice. Then I found out that it was retarded.	[05:22]
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decimation	last time I was in Venice, the Doge's palace was closed because the lazy "museum workers" were on strike. The Doge would not be pleased (either with them, or the rabble that trample upon his possessions)	[05:23]
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mircea_popescu	ok, we shall be having a little fun in a short while, so. stay tuned!	[05:38]
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Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu, I hear you are joining the Bitcoin Foundation // any truth to that mircea ?	[05:39]
Duffer1	o.0	[05:40]
BCB	I'm trolling	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic not afaikl ?	[05:40]
Apocalyptic	unusual for you BCB	[05:41]
BCB	ha	[05:41]
Apocalyptic	i guess gitmo changes people	[05:41]
BCB	it's a tough life	[05:41]
Apocalyptic	you tell me...	[05:41]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/cryptographs-revived/	[05:55]
assbot	Cryptographs, revived. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	if anyone feels like a little visual challenge.	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	nao thestringpuller can finally get gpg certified on trilema	[05:56]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-]	[06:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24328 @ 0.00100515 = 24.4533 BTC [+] {2}	[06:21]
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mircea_popescu	;;eauth freenode:#bitcoin-otc:cabc0c9121fe1fa297d51982e18c411360d5d2793b18b24ee7e82882	[14:24]
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mircea_popescu	ahhh good morning new world!	[14:24]
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Naphex	morning	[14:25]
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kakobrekla	morning	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	how goes ?	[14:27]
kakobrekla	alrighty	[14:28]
mircea_popescu	!jd mpif	[14:28]
assbot	Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 164.41455395 BTC; -0.02964936 BTC (-0.0180%) since last check 12h 30m 48s ago.	[14:28]
mircea_popescu	BOO	[14:28]
Naphex	spent whole weekend mounting new PC, PSU was a piece of shit, now waiting for a new PSU to arrive	[14:28]
Naphex	yay!	[14:28]
mircea_popescu	Naphex congrats, a winner is you :D	[14:28]
kakobrekla	get a seasonic	[14:28]
Naphex	bought a 1600W sirtec	[14:29]
kakobrekla	sir means cheese	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo re thge church mice article : finally, one of them coming out with teh truth.	[14:29]
Naphex	only one i could find in this country (within 3 day delivery)	[14:30]
Naphex	but hopefully it should carry	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	it's amusing, all the fucking pretense of "success" these people put up. from winklevoss and brock pierce all the way down, they all pretend like they got dough meanwhile can't pay for a cup of coffee in cash.	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	bitcoinpete:	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell benkay now i have to make bitcoinpete into a megabrand. we're gonna sell garbage trucks, satellites, and pallets of bottled peri-air << is that air from the perineum ?	[14:33]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	ow shit. sorry b.	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	Vexual: ive been trying to do trilema university, but directional rain doesn't float << ahahaa what the f	[14:34]
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pankkake	http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/rethinking-two-factor-auth	[15:22]
assbot	rethinking two factor auth	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	jurov lol cool.	[15:23]
Naphex	anybody know any good charting libraries for android?	[15:26]
Naphex	that look good as well	[15:26]
Naphex	:p	[15:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.02863338 = 0.1718 BTC [-] {3}	[15:27]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell bravetheworld here you go : http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-that-bitcoin-is-a-sovereign/	[15:40]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[15:40]
assbot	The idea that Bitcoin is a sovereign… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[15:40]
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Naphex	User Aquisition Pie, https://i.imgur.com/8iO19j8.png - Looks like word of mouth still trumps everything :P	[15:47]
mircea_popescu	;)	[15:52]
mircea_popescu	the only people who don't know this or dispute it are the people for whom to worthy mouth would ever speak.	[15:52]
Naphex	also for a test, 500eur was place on AdWords	[15:53]
Naphex	managed to bring in 160 clicks, with 90% bouncerate, and 2 user registrations :o	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	s/to/no heh	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	Naphex sounds about right.	[15:54]
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Naphex	the pie before was in the same timeframe	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	and yet somehow, on the strength of the utility of the adwords service, the world imagines google be worth billions.	[15:54]
Naphex	so in the same month, it didn't even do a 1% in sessions	[15:54]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: TV did nicely though	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	was it cheaper than 500 euros ? :D	[15:58]
Naphex	free	[15:59]
Naphex	bitcoin hype	[15:59]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/y9ywGcw.png	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	well free works.	[15:59]
Naphex	sessions for the last month, 29 apr was a re-run	[15:59]
Naphex	of a Antena3 report	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	cazalla evil huh.	[16:02]
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mircea_popescu	and for what it's worth, bitcoinpete's solution didn't pass hash.	[16:02]
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jurov	mircea_popescu: pls deposit	[16:09]
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fluffypony	oh damn	[16:12]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: is the cryptograph a word or a phrase?	[16:12]
mircea_popescu	jurov on it.	[16:13]
mircea_popescu	Naphex unless otherwise specified, it's a word.	[16:13]
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HeySteve	https://twitter.com/Wu_Tang_Finance/status/465565381646491648/photo/1/large	[16:17]
assbot	Wonder what kinda products these guys be offerin... http://t.co/vFjl3m9yZ6	[16:17]
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mircea_popescu	mpex deposits flushed.	[16:18]
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Naphex	mircea_popescu: all lowercase?	[16:22]
jurov	thanks	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	Naphex aye	[16:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07258877 = 0.4355 BTC [+] {2}	[16:24]
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mircea_popescu	o look at that, academi (ex blackwater) paid by usg to send 400 ppls to "punish" ukrainian separatists.	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	that should be interesting.	[16:30]
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mircea_popescu	"It is almost as if someone (a quite wealthy and powerful someone) has material interests that diverge with those of the Obama administration, and hence converge with those of Putin. Alongside the emerging China-Russia axis, keeping tabs on just how close to Russia Germany is willing to get, is easily the most notable story in the entire Ukraine conflict."	[16:38]
mircea_popescu	word.	[16:38]
bounce	about time europe got off its usg fetish. though swapping it for a russia fetish is maybe not an improvement	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	bounce help an abused codependent wife to get out of her toxic relationship	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	finding her two eyars later with another abusive codependent husband	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	by and large, people deserve what they get and what they get is what they deserve.	[16:42]
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bounce	people, yes. countries, maybe less so. harder to start your own and everything.	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	countries even more so, imo.	[16:43]
bounce	why that then? because you get less choice as a citizen, or what?	[16:44]
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kakobrekla	https://i.imgur.com/psM88d2.jpg	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	bounce well, consider the problem theoretically. if f(x) tracks f(y) then is a sample of f(x)s more likely or less likely to match a sample of f(y) than the disparate elements ?	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lmao what	[16:45]
kakobrekla	well, its hand made	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	oh lol	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	hnahaha	[16:47]
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mircea_popescu	.d	[16:53]
kakobrekla	;;bc,stats	[16:53]
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kakobrekla	http://radiostudent.si/sites/default/files/slike/2014-05-11-nedeljska-šlagerica-neće-slonče-u-lonče-27026.jpg	[16:54]
kakobrekla	"hey people, everything, everything."	[16:54]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lol what's it mean in slovenian ?	[16:55]
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kakobrekla	its serbocroatian or whatever but direct translation is what i said	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	but i meant what's it supposed to mean	[16:55]
kakobrekla	no fuckin idea	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	well, topless brides in handcuffs is something i can get behind,	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	not so sure about planting celery in their vaginas tho	[16:56]
kakobrekla	just saw a tit and that reminded me of assets	[16:56]
kakobrekla	then i thought i might as well translate the caption, if someone asks.	[16:56]
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mircea_popescu	hey nelly.	[16:58]
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princessnell	heyo	[16:58]
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kakobrekla	found it; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbXZvBmj1iw	[17:00]
assbot	EROS Hej ljudi svasta svasta - YouTube	[17:00]
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mircea_popescu	ahahahaha it's a derp song ?	[17:00]
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kakobrekla	its some troll song	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	wait, is the topless brunette ~singing~ as part of a strange softcore porn + music deal you people had going in the 70s ?!	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	fuck, i was in the wrong country.	[17:01]
kakobrekla	;)	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	well i don't understand jack shit out of this, except for vague bits making me think it's kinda lulzy.	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	is there a... turkish version anywhere ? portuguese ? something	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	i won't ask for english, but gimme something i can use	[17:02]
kakobrekla	i very much doubt it	[17:02]
kakobrekla	the singer is Milesa Lakić it seems	[17:03]
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mircea_popescu	is that the gal in the pic ?	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	yesitis	[17:03]
kakobrekla	prolly	[17:04]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDB7QXVIg50	[17:10]
assbot	Eros - Dusa iste seksiliste - YouTube	[17:10]
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kakobrekla	lel	[17:10]
kakobrekla	told you they were trolls	[17:11]
mircea_popescu	i call this not trollage,	[17:11]
mircea_popescu	i call this proper expression.	[17:11]
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punkman	http://lh6.ggpht.com/_XjNoPRvX7j4/TXUw6K3cfyI/AAAAAAAAATY/Basc6HQPm-4/s1600-h/DSC_0691%5B3%5D.jpg	[17:17]
assbot	DSC_0691[3].jpg (image)	[17:17]
fluffypony	lol	[17:17]
fluffypony	how would you even cut that	[17:17]
punkman	you just take a bite maybe	[17:18]
fluffypony	...	[17:19]
fluffypony	awkward...	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	looks like a fucking cactus	[17:19]
punkman	http://lh4.ggpht.com/_XjNoPRvX7j4/TXUw--IT_nI/AAAAAAAAATw/nZDaV5_ql_0/s1600-h/DSC_0706%5B3%5D.jpg	[17:19]
assbot	DSC_0706[3].jpg (image)	[17:19]
jurov	maybe it's filled with liquid cream.. no cuts then :)	[17:19]
Apocalyptic	.d	[17:19]
Apocalyptic	!up ozbot	[17:20]
Apocalyptic	!up ozbot	[17:21]
Apocalyptic	hum, something's up	[17:21]
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kakobrekla	yeah, bitstamps ceil() on the fees.	[17:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.041 = 0.287 BTC [-]	[17:23]
punkman	http://saaaam.s3.amazonaws.com/starting_into_vacancy.txt	[17:27]
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mircea_popescu	;;rate dignork 1 he cracked my hashes!	[17:27]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dignork has been recorded.	[17:27]
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artifexd	how would you even cut that <- Lorena Bobbit may have some advice	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	;;google lorena mckennit	[17:29]
gribble	The Official Website of Loreena McKennitt - Quinlan Road: ; Loreena McKennitt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Lorena McKennitt - The Mystics Dream - YouTube:	[17:29]
punkman	fun stuff http://lav.io/2014/05/transform-any-text-into-a-patent-application/	[17:30]
assbot	Transform any text into a patent application – Sam Lavigne	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	neat lol	[17:31]
mircea_popescu	awww left him a comment and i think it got et.	[17:33]
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mircea_popescu	btw, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/small-dick-issues.txt for people who love ancient texts.	[17:36]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/nimeni-nu-poate-trola-cum-pot-trola-eu-cind-ma-apuc-de-trolat/ << and the romanian translation, for people whi like linguistic lolz.	[17:37]
assbot	Nimeni nu poate trola cum pot trola eu cind ma apuc de trolat. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[17:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 25 @ 0.041 = 1.025 BTC [-]	[17:48]
fluffypony	lol	[17:48]
fluffypony	every German I know complains about the electricity prices, the weather, and the bureaucracy	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	every german i know complains about the fat (ie, waistless) german womenz	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	http://addl.es/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-over-brock-pierce-controversy-is-tbf-necessary/	[17:52]
assbot	Bitcoin Foundation Members Resigning Over Brock Pierce Controversy Is TBF Necessary? \| Bitcoin Market	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	ne1 know who this is ?	[17:52]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell heysteve you gordon hall ?	[17:53]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[17:53]
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bitcoinpete	mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/cryptographs-revived/#comment-99794	[17:57]
assbot	Cryptographs, revived. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[17:57]
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bitcoinpete	mircea_popescu: hash just the answer minus the salty confooshan and you'll see that i got it :D	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	well the idea is i don't do that, specifically to preserve the (meanwhile raped) secrecy of the actual answer.	[17:59]
bounce	"79% approval" when 30% abstained? uh.	[17:59]
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mircea_popescu	bounce it's better researched in parts than the average fare published about bitcoin,	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	but yeah still some holes.	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	what's most concerning however is that the original article was, probably, http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/will-bitcoin-end-federal-reserve-monopoly-video-thinks/2014/05/11	[17:59]
assbot	Will Bitcoin End the Federal Reserve Monopoly? This Video Thinks so » CryptoCoinsNews	[17:59]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: re HeySteve, yes he is	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	yet they failed to ping me. what appears a lowly web scrapper (the addl.es thing) however did.	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	if they continue with this approach they will be owned by content thieves.	[18:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 16 @ 0.00634987 = 0.1016 BTC [+] {2}	[18:00]
bounce	someone pledging $100k to remove a fresh elect. shoulda worked dem proxy votes beforehand, eh	[18:01]
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bitcoinpete	mircea_popescu: now i'm confused as to which hash is which lol	[18:05]
bitcoinpete	and i don't completely see why publishing a hash of just the answer shouldn't work. is it that easy to reverse sha1?	[18:06]
Apocalyptic	probably not	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	bounce clueless process by clueless people.	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	bitcoinpete you have no idea.	[18:08]
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mircea_popescu	look in the log bit linked from my comment on that article.	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	guy reversed sha1, salted sha1 and reversed sha1 within minutes.	[18:09]
Apocalyptic	the input must have been pretty short then	[18:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00100705 = 24.0685 BTC [+]	[18:09]
bounce	vote by wot rating, there's an idea. though I'd make a separate votes tally, otherwise the biggest trader wins, which isn't quite what you'd want	[18:09]
bitcoinpete	Apocalyptic: 7 letters	[18:10]
Apocalyptic	yeah that's bruteforceable in a reasonable amount of time	[18:10]
bitcoinpete	mircea_popescu: til	[18:10]
bounce	though memory coin also has some sort of voting thing built-in	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	bounce except they specifically do not wish to involve the actual bitcoin powers, tools and mechanisms.	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	because their bid is to subvert, not to participate.	[18:11]
bounce	oh, not for this bunch, no. they just need to melt under their own ineptitude	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	right. well otherwise... obviously.	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	certainly. already.	[18:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07257745 = 0.2903 BTC [+]	[18:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00100445 = 22.4997 BTC [-] {2}	[18:19]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07258874 = 0.2178 BTC [+] {2}	[18:21]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.06950156 = 0.139 BTC [-] {2}	[18:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.06012444 = 0.5411 BTC [-] {5}	[18:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.05980005 = 0.1196 BTC [-] {2}	[18:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05901393 = 0.177 BTC [-] {2}	[18:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.05721572 = 0.4005 BTC [-] {3}	[18:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 44 @ 0.03284323 = 1.4451 BTC [-] {8}	[18:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05600706 = 0.168 BTC [-] {2}	[18:49]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [-]	[18:50]
kakobrekla	since i dont want to come out as a preferist ill paste this here too. http://shrani.si/f/1u/Rt/3i4fvDF8/pnceur-usd13-may-2014-01.png	[18:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 31 @ 0.03229045 = 1.001 BTC [-] {6}	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.03208057 = 0.417 BTC [-] {4}	[18:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.077 = 0.539 BTC [+]	[18:59]
kakobrekla	nothing exception there, just saving butts.	[19:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.46520680 BTC to 8`680 shares, 28401 satoshi per share	[19:00]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 21.30809800 BTC to 8`680 shares, 245485 satoshi per share	[19:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 51 @ 0.02867367 = 1.4624 BTC [-] {18}	[19:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.07557142 = 0.529 BTC [-] {2}	[19:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0285 = 0.1425 BTC [-]	[19:07]
dignork	it's not really reversing, just a simple bruteforcing	[19:08]
dignork	but here is a cheap-o idea: challenge+some .iso, say openbsd 5.5 cd1	[19:09]
dignork	will bring each trial to few seconds	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla what's a preferist	[19:10]
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kakobrekla	http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/preferist	[19:11]
assbot	preferist - Wiktionary	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	wow. today i've learned.	[19:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07258878 = 0.5807 BTC [+] {2}	[19:12]
kakobrekla	:)	[19:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.02951666 = 0.1771 BTC [-] {4}	[19:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03 = 0.15 BTC [+] {5}	[19:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0305 = 0.1525 BTC [+] {4}	[19:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20363 @ 0.00100418 = 20.4481 BTC [-] {3}	[19:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0286 = 0.1144 BTC [-] {2}	[19:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07258878 = 1.1614 BTC [+]	[19:22]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.07258878 = 2.468 BTC [+]	[19:27]
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HeySteve2	this is the article on the foundation: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/2014/05/12	[19:27]
assbot	Bitcoin Foundation Members Resigning Over Brock Pierce Controversy - Is TBF Necessary? » CryptoCoinsNews	[19:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.00431601 = 0.4359 BTC [+] {3}	[19:42]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03051428 = 0.2136 BTC [+] {3}	[19:50]
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Naphex	http://pastebin.ro/cs5Lr0gO	[19:51]
assbot	The Shady History of Brock Pie - PasteBin.Ro - Primul instrument de lipire din Romania!	[19:51]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 0.14699208 BTC to 8`556 shares, 1718 satoshi per share	[20:00]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 25 @ 0.041 = 1.025 BTC [-]	[20:06]
benkay	https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/464169683428450305/photo/1	[20:09]
assbot	/fucktardtrole http://t.co/8t2LIXD9Ed	[20:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.05850606 = 2.9253 BTC [-]	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	HeySteve checked logs ?	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2014#672858 specifically	[20:17]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[20:17]
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HeySteve	mircea_popescu: ;;later tell heysteve you gordon hall ? <- yes, that's me	[20:18]
benkay	anybody know any good charting libraries for android? // we're using shinobi controls for an ios thing	[20:18]
benkay	and for what it's worth, bitcoinpete's solution didn't pass hash. // you know bitcoinpete the hash is there so you don't have to derp in public :D	[20:19]
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HeySteve	mircea_popescu, which service failed to ping you? I'm not very familiar with how RSS feeds work, although I remember it mentioned here that CCN has one	[20:23]
benkay	http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/2014/05/12/the-boring-bitcoin-report-may-5-11-a-not-so-boring-week-in-review/	[20:24]
assbot	The Boring Bitcoin Report: May 5 - 11, A Not-So-Boring Week In Review - Forbes	[20:24]
benkay	splitting this little text across 3 pages is a scam, ms. boring.	[20:24]
benkay	ESPECIALLY WITH 100 CHARS ON THE LAST PAGE	[20:25]
benkay	kill them all.	[20:25]
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punkman	benkay, gotta make those adcents	[20:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.041 = 0.328 BTC [-]	[20:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07635 = 1.0689 BTC [+]	[20:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 27 @ 0.041 = 1.107 BTC [-]	[20:39]
kakobrekla	;;t m s.mpoe	[20:41]
gribble	Error: This url is not on the whitelist.	[20:41]
kakobrekla	!t m s.mpoe	[20:41]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00088136 / 0.00095969 / 0.00101 (272302 shares, 261.33 BTC), 7D: 0.00084554 / 0.0008779 / 0.00101 (6020628 shares, 5,285.56 BTC), 30D: 0.00083786 / 0.00093844 / 0.00101 (22474870 shares, 21,091.33 BTC)	[20:41]
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kakobrekla	also this thing, hits 1 again.	[20:41]
kakobrekla	what is this mike_c , u slackin	[20:42]
mike_c	what'd i do	[20:42]
mike_c	oh, mpoe :)	[20:42]
kakobrekla	write some shit about bitbet to raise the price ?	[20:42]
mike_c	i feel like i write about bitbet every month	[20:43]
kakobrekla	is true is true	[20:43]
kakobrekla	just not negative enough.	[20:43]
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mircea_popescu	HeySteve your own blog didn't ping. some google spammer that scraped your content did.	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	if this happens regularly, people are likely to just allow their trackbacks, making them rank above you on your own content.	[20:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4621001 BTC [-]	[20:45]
HeySteve	ah thanks, I'll pass that on for sure	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[20:46]
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mircea_popescu	https://twitter.com/theguilster/status/465908385196834816	[20:46]
assbot	Have a hot thought abt #Bitcoin Odds are, /Mircea_Popescu was on it yrs ago http://t.co/FXKdvM4cgp Viva la Disrupcin, hoy y por siempre!	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	oops i mean	[20:46]
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mircea_popescu	"Quite an awkward paywall, though. Someone should tell them about Bitwall."	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	why is the world so fucken backwards ;/	[20:47]
Apocalyptic	mircea, that Andrea chick seems to be quite fond of you	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	princessnell ? i thought she was fond of benkay	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	or no wait, benkay was found of her ?	[20:47]
Apocalyptic	oh so that's who she is	[20:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4621 BTC [-]	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	so i go to check the damned thing out. http://www.bitwall.io/	[20:48]
assbot	Bitwall \| The Network of Connected Paywalls	[20:48]
punkman	ms boring never came back, did she?	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	i click on a button, nothing fucking happens	[20:48]
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mircea_popescu	because having yet another piece of shit bootstrap that doesn't work w/o js is exactly the opposite of awkward	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	;;seen bitcoingirl	[20:49]
gribble	bitcoingirl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 26 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: Sunlot Holdings was formed for this very reason	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	hm i thought i saw her recently.	[20:49]
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princessnell	mircea_popescu por que no los dos?	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	ay que fuerte, carinha	[20:51]
princessnell	Apocalyptic i am fond of many ideas. and often the people who propose them as well.	[20:56]
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mircea_popescu	>[The complaint was filed June 11, 2007, and was sealed over three months later, on September 17, 2007. Until that time it had been publicly available. It was sealed with one sentence near the end of a "proposed order" granting a motion to strike certain portions of the complaint. The order was apparently written by attorneys for Brock Pierce and presented to the judge, who scratched out the word "proposed" and signed	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	the order without other modification. Although "proposed orders" are common in many situations, one does not typically request that documents be sealed by appending the request to another order in the Central District of California. This is at least partly because appending a request to seal to another order does not create a docket entry of an "Order to Seal" that the Clerk, journalists, and other interested parties c	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	an easily reference.]<	[20:57]
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mircea_popescu	so the murdering piece naphex pasted earlier has a lot of dubious fare in it, but also some gems.	[20:57]
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mircea_popescu	if anyone is into investigative journalism, how about finding these corrupt judges ?	[20:57]
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mircea_popescu	there's little possible question that the pierce punk and his master escaped serious prosecution throiugh corruption.	[20:58]
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mircea_popescu	but, who did they corrupt and how and when ? which cali judge took money from whom so they could walk ?	[20:58]
fluffypony	Apocalyptic: is your buy order 19499 still open?	[20:59]
fluffypony	oh	[20:59]
fluffypony	that was supposed to be in -otc	[20:59]
mircea_popescu	apparently the whole thing's quite amateur hour, so it shouldn't be THAT hard.	[20:59]
bounce	so, verdict, unlikely to be innocent, ducked out by greenback?	[21:02]
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mircea_popescu	on a cursory examination of a moderate pile of documentary evidence, such is my best guess.	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	hardly a verdict. let's call it... a proposed verdict.	[21:03]
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rithm	yay	[21:03]
bounce	can always strike out the "proposed" part later, eh	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	it's been known to occur.	[21:03]
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rithm	i like to call him brock landers	[21:04]
rithm	where there is smoke there is fire?	[21:04]
rithm	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgYKYk4GryU	[21:05]
assbot	Brock Landers - Angels Live in My Town - YouTube	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	Let’s be clear here: Brock Pierce considers his previous work with IGE to have been a positive contribution to virtual currencies as a whole and he holds the delusion that his work in the field was instrumental to paving the way for Bitcoin. He wishes to be “The Godfather of Bitcoin”... It means what you think it means, especially in Hollywood.	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	ahjahah what, no more jesus ?	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	is it because jesus hates punks ?	[21:06]
HeySteve	rithm, at the least, it is hard to believe that for two years he noticed nothing amiss in the conduct of his housemates in Spain	[21:06]
bounce	jesusfather?	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	never mind that part. he noticed nothing amiss in the conduct of ige ? srsly ?	[21:07]
rithm	i've read enough to make mircea looks like a saint	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	on account of being 12 and what is this cock in my mouth ? or what.	[21:07]
Naphex	haha	[21:07]
Naphex	that got me out of bed	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	rithm wait a second mr backhand jab. wtf would make me look less like a saint!	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	Naphex 12yos or cocks in your mouth ? :D	[21:08]
rithm	aww c'mon you know what i mean	[21:08]
rithm	everyone always gives you shit about the naked girls	[21:08]
rithm	this is way beyond that	[21:08]
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mircea_popescu	o i thought you meant the niggers.txt	[21:09]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: i had no idea who the brock guy even was	[21:09]
rithm	nah nigger.txt totally O-K	[21:09]
mircea_popescu	Naphex ah. yeah.	[21:09]
Naphex	but disney actor huh?	[21:09]
mircea_popescu	kid actor, then part of a wow gold trading gang is what i knew.	[21:10]
rithm	more like abused child star	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	i had no idea he's rich, and i very much doubt he actually is.	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	kinda puts in a sore light the desperation of all these thought leaders in their own dreams, if that's what their godfather looks like.	[21:10]
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mircea_popescu	Pierce also told BuzzFeed over the phone that he finds the resurfacing of those allegations frustrating. “It’s all old news,” he said. << you know, that part is so fucking familiar. trilema is full of various exposed scammers, spammers, what have you. their absolutely universal first line response ? "o that stuff is old news".	[21:12]
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mircea_popescu	as if lol.	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	as if fraud ages.	[21:13]
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mircea_popescu	"I’m not even gay.”< ok, gets even better, we don't even need an investigative journalist anymore. any hot twinks with a desire to majorly troll want to go hit on pierce and report the results ?	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	preferably on a video blog lol.	[21:13]
fluffypony	lol	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	>Pierce called Egan “a pathological liar” and told BuzzFeed that he has charter flight records that prove that Singer and the other defendants were never in Hawaii with Egan, as the lawsuit alleges. He said that he could not immediately release those records.<	[21:14]
rithm	could probably do the video shoot back at his place	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	o god, i hope he ipos something on the forum.	[21:14]
rithm	for better lighting	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	usagi will be vindicated.	[21:14]
fluffypony	[ANN] Bitcoin Foundation 2.0 IPO	[21:15]
fluffypony	that would be great	[21:15]
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Naphex	most of the stuff is true(tm)	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	"What kind of allegedly heterosexual man spends endless nights with two older men, guns, and drugs?" << why mix all that stupid shit in there i wonder ?	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	i'm perfectly heterosexual, i've spent many nights with dozens of older men, armed to the teeth.	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	what of it.	[21:16]
Naphex	guy had lots of poo history on archive.org	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	"What kind of man ruins the online lives of underage boys with RMT" come on.	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	Naphex who wrote that thing anyway ?	[21:17]
Naphex	dunno, probably some anon doxer	[21:17]
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HeySteve	possibly Phineas Gage, but no desire to confirm that	[21:19]
Naphex	most of it is old drama	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	4FCE0A74	[21:20]
Naphex	from his rmt days	[21:20]
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bounce	so this beyond the guy being likely shady and probably corrupt, there's also a bunch of would-be character assassins busily doing their thing?	[21:27]
bounce	why now and not before he got elected?	[21:27]
Naphex	someone put btc on it	[21:30]
Naphex	after the cp story with the raid in spain	[21:30]
Naphex	got linked on reddit	[21:30]
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Naphex	the main theme is anti foundation	[21:33]
Naphex	so thats why after election	[21:34]
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HeySteve	Naphex, to be fair, the foundation really screwed the pooch this time	[21:40]
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mircea_popescu	bounce i dun think the guy is "corrupt", what the hell that is. i think he's clueless and incompetent, which is much worse than any corruption.	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	and as to why now rather than earlier : nobody gives a shit about the foundation. nobod yreads what they do. nobody cares.	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	the only moment anyone pays any attention is when they majorly fuck up, because we can all just lol and move on.	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	so... we're atm lolling.	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	anyway, apparently the two bit idiot character still exists and still posts. notwithstanding that nobody reads that pulp, either. now get a load of this :	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	"I didn’t want to touch this story with a ten-foot pole because 1) I’ve met and have had only positive experiences with Pierce, 2) he is one of the most well-connected and important early investors in the Bitcoin industry, and 3) even if I hated him and he was a nobody, I’m still licking my wounds from the Gox and BTC Foundation battles I waged in February/March. The last thing I want to do is comment on a new p	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	otential scandal. "	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	amusing as 3) is, considering how utterly trampled he got for all the pompous bullshit he was trying to pass back then,	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	he's here trying to establish a noob as "early investor" ? orly ? gtfo.	[22:03]
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bounce	"corrupt" in the sense it looks like he bribed his way out of the allegations	[22:03]
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mircea_popescu	bounce that'd be a problem for the judge taking the bribe. i see no problem for him in that.	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	the problem is that he apparently did a shitty job of it.	[22:04]
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mircea_popescu	"After all, this is a dude with a lot of industry exposure and investments as it is. He could basically build a closed-loop bitcoin ecosystem himself via his roles as both investor (BitAngels, LA Bitcoin Accelerator) and executive at companies ranging from mining (KNCMiner), ATM hardware (Robocoin), payment processing (GoCoin), consumer wallet (ExpressCoin), and bitcoin exchange (Mt. Gox?). "	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	this i hope happens.	[22:06]
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mircea_popescu	!up locksley	[22:06]
-assbot-	You voiced locksley for 30 minutes.	[22:06]
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mircea_popescu	should be entertaining to watch it burn	[22:06]
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mircea_popescu	!up ziggamon	[22:07]
-assbot-	You voiced ziggamon for 30 minutes.	[22:07]
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bounce	a closed loop ScamCoin infrastructure, why not	[22:07]
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mircea_popescu	ah, it'd be a grand thing to watch unravel.	[22:08]
bounce	somebody sell this idea to him	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	hey, any fiat fucktards with delusions of being "investors" and "relevant" and "in bitcoin" ? pls to give the guy some money ?	[22:09]
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bounce	(for a lot of bitcoin)	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	pmarca you listening ? 100mn ? plz ?	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha the byrne fuckwit is actually a blockchain "bitcoin legal expert" pick of the month club ?	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	dude what a loser list ahahaha. epic.	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	ok, i am well entertained. tys go to the pretender's club. well done sirs.	[22:11]
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Apocalyptic	"Andreas Antonopolis, whom many consider to be the authority on everything bitcoin, explained"	[22:13]
Apocalyptic	my sides...	[22:13]
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bounce	who how now?	[22:13]
bounce	really should write all these names down along with what they're on about now	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	;;google log.bitcoin-assets.com preston byrne	[22:14]
gribble	In which we teach basic reading comprehension to a certain Mr ...: ; Research \| Adam Smith Institute: ; Law is not scary \| Preston Byrne:	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	guy can't fucking read, i have no idea how he managed to pass the bar exam, he's the foundation's expert on things.	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	such setting oneself up to fail has not been seen since the days mtgox was running on the lagengine.	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	" Why inappropriately smear one of the few credible dudes that actually stepped up to run — and let’s face it, the pickings were slim — without any real proof of wrongdoing, and why bitch about it only after the fact?"	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	because you were set up, that's why.	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	because your ass is being owned, by other people, other places.	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	that's why.	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	herpy-derp and a bottle of rum.	[22:16]
fluffypony	Learn BTC: From Antonopolis to ZeroCoin!	[22:16]
fluffypony	(new book I'm going to write)	[22:17]
Apocalyptic	bounce an old article at https://kwhs.wharton.upenn.edu/2014/02/new-kind-money-bitcoin-basics-amidst-week-mt-gox-mayhem/	[22:17]
assbot	A New Kind of Money: Bitcoin Basics Amidst a Week of Mt. Gox Mayhem » Knowledge@Wharton High School	[22:17]
Apocalyptic	someone directed me to it to prove "he's serious about crypto" (in #bitcoin)	[22:17]
Apocalyptic	because his name is mentionned...	[22:18]
Apocalyptic	(besides they managed to get Andreas' name wrong, which indicates it's a very serious article)	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	kwhs.wharton is some blog of a campus radio of u penn ?	[22:19]
bounce	wait what, wharton high school? so that's a 10 y/o's take on bitcoin?	[22:19]
Apocalyptic	looks like it	[22:19]
Apocalyptic	15 yo	[22:19]
bounce	oh, that's alright then. probably moar SMRT than the rest of them together, eh	[22:19]
Apocalyptic	yeah, he's even complaining peope his age are dumb !	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	well people his age ARE dumb.	[22:20]
Apocalyptic	the next Anton is here, i'm telling you	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell bitcoingirl http://abitcoingirl.tumblr.com/ that yours ? or a contender appears ?	[22:20]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[22:20]
assbot	aBitcoinGirl's Newsroom	[22:20]
fluffypony	a wild bitcoingirl appears?	[22:21]
bounce	n'mind that it's the age you think everything is dumb (even if you're mostly right thinking that. there's always that you're 15 y/o too, dumbass)	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	bounce fudster	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile on my twitter feed : "@MichellePhan · 35m Transform your face with only two products: http://"	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	dude... marketing on social media is its own parody by now	[22:22]
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kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606385.msg6691847#msg6691847	[22:24]
assbot	Kraken - 6 months and still cannot get my money	[22:24]
kakobrekla	ok how does this not sound like mtgox	[22:24]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: RE - Pierce. Why not have the Gay NFL player hit on him?	[22:26]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo cuz i don't know any nfl players ?	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla well because jeb mccaleb is on the foundation board wait	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	that part is the same.	[22:31]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I guess we'll have to send the Mr. Klye twink on him	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	because jeb mccaleb was not involved with mtgox	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	wait, he was.	[22:32]
Apocalyptic	"and for some reason the ticket was marked as solved without any response"	[22:32]
Apocalyptic	gold	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo lmao	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic hey, that sounds just like mtgox	[22:32]
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davout	"I'm running for the Texas State Legislature. I support LGBT rights, pot, and net-neutrality and oppose the NSA and TSA. I also happen to be a long-time Bitcoin enthusiast. I'd love your support."	[22:34]
davout	the guy opposes the TSA	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	sounds perfect. got a name ?	[22:35]
davout	http://www.ludlow2014.com/	[22:35]
assbot	Kevin Ludlow for the Texas State House of Representatives District 46	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	o ludlow yea.	[22:35]
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mircea_popescu	davout https://blockchain.info/tx/1838de8d5b227cdbd6d42170487d82f3ebce42e8969a48749a55ad1474ac13e3	[22:37]
assbot	Bitcoin Transaction 1838de8d5b227cdbd6d42170487d82f3ebce42e8969a48749a55ad1474ac13e3	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	thus begins your career as a ... texas legislature political promoter ?	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	mazel tov.	[22:38]
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davout	his thing just sounds like some AI parsed the front page of reddit and posted the thing that sounded the most appropriate thing given the context, on /r/bitcoin	[22:39]
mircea_popescu	not ai in any sense.	[22:42]
mircea_popescu	some girly.	[22:42]
mircea_popescu	we should encourage girlies that emulate good ai.	[22:42]
fluffypony	I like this guy	[22:44]
davout	guess i could find some use for it	[22:44]
fluffypony	davout: so I shouldn't donate?	[22:44]
davout	got baldur's gate 2, i'm sure i'll find a couple of boring quests to delegate	[22:44]
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davout	fluffypony: donate ?	[22:45]
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mircea_popescu	fluffypony if you like him why not.	[22:45]
davout	also what's wrong with this brock pierce guy?	[22:45]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu: agreed	[22:45]
davout	he's into highschoolers, so what XD	[22:45]
fluffypony	davout: I blame you - 9da268e6229fd4bac08d3df763298eaaef0b3f1f7d8aa82e4210bbb3e20172cf	[22:45]
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mircea_popescu	davout he apparently sucks at both running businesses and corrupting the establishment.	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	neither of these recommend one for a responsibility position in btc	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	fluffypony guy's donations just went up 1500% after a casual mention here,	[22:46]
davout	wat, i'm confused	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	in spite of taking the time to do a full blown ama on reddit + w/e woirk the girlies put into it.	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	davout tis in the log you know. jus' read it!	[22:46]
kakobrekla	it went up by 50% really	[22:47]
davout	you referring to the ludlow guy nao amirite	[22:47]
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davout	yea, i was reading it earlier, but there's like a ton, anyway	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla nah, it was like 12 bitcents post-reddit	[22:48]
Apocalyptic	it went up by 50% really // do you even math ?	[22:48]
kakobrekla	https://blockchain.info/address/1PJN8Y2iiNEUE9HxAXJuF6AwDps9yENBTi	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic now you know why bitbet is in such a shape :D	[22:48]
assbot	Bitcoin Address 1PJN8Y2iiNEUE9HxAXJuF6AwDps9yENBTi	[22:48]
kakobrekla	1 btc before	[22:48]
kakobrekla	1.5 btc nao	[22:48]
Apocalyptic	no	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla before what dood.	[22:48]
Apocalyptic	mircea donated 1 btc	[22:48]
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kakobrekla	a	[22:48]
kakobrekla	ok then	[22:48]
Apocalyptic	mircea, yeah I do now	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	now give him a bitcent for your slander.	[22:48]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.069 = 0.138 BTC [-]	[22:49]
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kakobrekla	actually i charge for that since recently.	[23:01]
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kakobrekla	FFA model did not work out well so im trying the PPS	[23:04]
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fluffypony	http://i.imgur.com/eDWkh.jpg <- see, iPhones are useful	[23:09]
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davout	fluffypony: LOL	[23:14]
fluffypony	:)	[23:14]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lol so i guess you can send the guy a bill	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	ffa = future farmers association ?	[23:26]
kakobrekla	Free For All and Pay Per Slander	[23:26]
kakobrekla	also it was not a real slander, then i would say "he will prolly have to return those coins like Mark Clear did"	[23:27]
fluffypony	dat slander	[23:27]
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kakobrekla	because terrorists.	[23:30]
fluffypony	and pedos	[23:31]
fluffypony	think of the pedos!	[23:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9237 @ 0.00100068 = 9.2433 BTC [+]	[23:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-]	[23:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.0043 = 0.4085 BTC [-] {2}	[23:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.05850606 = 5.8506 BTC [-]	[23:38]
bounce	fake slander. such letdown	[23:38]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla you have a point tho, iu don't think davout is registered as a texas political promoter	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	he'll prolly be extradited nao, like that other frenchman whose name sounds with d	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	what was it	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	dreyfuss ?	[23:54]
davout	dreyfus wasn't french, he was a jew	[23:55]
davout	A JEW YOU HEAR	[23:56]
bounce	such accusing	[23:56]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu - you haven't seen any of the Borat stuff, right?	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	of course i have ?	[23:58]
fluffypony	oh weird, I thought you hadn't	[23:58]
fluffypony	OH it was the Dictator stuff	[23:58]
fluffypony	the HIV Aladeen thing	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	i saw his early stuff. ali-g	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	didn't care so much about the later stuff.	[23:58]
fluffypony	this is my favourite Borat bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo	[23:58]
assbot	Borat - Throw the Jew Down the Well!! - YouTube	[23:58]
davout	the best thing with borat, was watching it in the us, the people i went to see it with didn't find it that funny XD	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	kinda watered down sameness imo	[23:58]
fluffypony	davout: maybe they finally realised they were the object of mockery	[23:59]
bounce	americans and getting mocked? say it ain't so!	[23:59]

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