Forum logs for 12 Mar 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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danieldaniel W00t! Someone outbid me! :D [00:02]
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ocminer selling 10 btc for 45 ppusd (thats 4.5 ppusd per btc) [00:04]
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danieldaniel ocminer: WHATTTT [00:04]
ocminer :) [00:04]
a5m0 ;;ident ocminer [00:04]
gribble Nick 'ocminer', with hostmask 'ocminer!marcel@md.mandylara.com', is identified as user ocminer, with GPG key id 570D052D01DD69B4, and key fingerprint 1098EE5EB037EBDD5DDA768A570D052D01DD69B4. [00:04]
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ocminer danieldaniel: msg me if you want [00:05]
bitfoo ocminer: I'll do it! [00:05]
mcorlett ocminer: Spend Bitcoins will give you more than that. [00:05]
mcorlett https://www.spendbitcoins.com/ [00:05]
bitfoo haha, true [00:05]
danieldaniel ocminer: done [00:05]
nitetrader 2x Amazon Gift Codes have been laying around since Christmas and I am desperate for BTC. $70 BTC each [00:05]
nitetrader They are $100 Face value [00:05]
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a5m0 spendbitcoins looks like it would put that other giftcard site out of business [00:06]
danieldaniel nitetrader: how many BTC for one? a5m0: I am not committing, just seeing if I have enough [00:06]
a5m0 he just said "$70 btc each" [00:07]
nitetrader @daniel 14 [00:07]
danieldaniel nitetrader: let me think about it [00:07]
danieldaniel a5m0: I said in btc [00:07]
a5m0 can you not do math? [00:07]
nitetrader k [00:07]
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danieldaniel a5m0: dude, I wanted to know exactly how much. What rate is he using? Last or something else? What exchange? [00:09]
danieldaniel a5m0: Do you really have to be a d*** about it to me? [00:09]
danieldaniel :( [00:09]
* danieldaniel is being defensive [00:09]
a5m0 you literally are a d*** [00:09]
a5m0 more of a d*********** [00:10]
danieldaniel a5m0: trololo [00:10]
danieldaniel ;;ident ocminer [00:10]
gribble Nick 'ocminer', with hostmask 'ocminer!marcel@md.mandylara.com', is identified as user ocminer, with GPG key id 570D052D01DD69B4, and key fingerprint 1098EE5EB037EBDD5DDA768A570D052D01DD69B4. [00:10]
danieldaniel wow, im stupid XD [00:10]
danieldaniel Didn't ident! D: [00:10]
a5m0 i ident'd him a few lines back [00:11]
ocminer :)) [00:11]
a5m0 at :04 [00:11]
danieldaniel ocminer: Did you ident me? lol [00:11]
danieldaniel a5m0: I see it. lol [00:11]
danieldaniel ;;ident [00:11]
gribble You are identified as user danieldaniel, with GPG key id C5D21E9BDCAE3594, and key fingerprint 4761C0C9EA65B824459AF736C5D21E9BDCAE3594. [00:11]
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danieldaniel ;;rated cominer [00:12]
gribble You have not yet rated user cominer [00:12]
danieldaniel ;;rated ocminer [00:12]
gribble You have not yet rated user ocminer [00:12]
danieldaniel ;;rate ocminer 1 Great deal! :O [00:12]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user ocminer has been recorded. [00:12]
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ocminer ;;rate danieldaniel 1 nice and easy ppusd transaction, would trade again, thanks ! [00:12]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danieldaniel has been recorded. [00:12]
ocminer lol it's like 10 popups in 2 min after I put my quote :) [00:13]
ocminer my rates are too low :) [00:14]
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Cory I always miss ocminer's deals. :P [00:14]
ocminer :) [00:15]
danieldaniel ocminer: :3 [00:15]
gigavps ;;seen grubles [00:15]
gigavps ;;later tell grubles i'll buy you last 5970 for 75 BTC [00:16]
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splatster Making bots for bitcoins! [00:17]
splatster Also doing other coding work! [00:17]
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mcorlett splatster: Languages? [00:18]
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splatster mcorlett: For what kind of work? [00:18]
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mcorlett Nothing in particular, just in general. [00:18]
splatster If it's web, PHP, if it's web design SCSS/jQuery. [00:19]
splatster I can do C/C++/Obj-c/Python/Perl(kind of) [00:19]
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splatster Would anyone be interested in an 'Are my sites up?' type service? [00:23]
a5m0 there are lots of good free ones [00:23]
splatster meh, ok [00:24]
reeses I have one in elisp [00:25]
reeses but that was pre-nagios [00:25]
nitetrader I have 2 $100 Amazon GC Codes for 1 [00:26]
nitetrader 14 BTC each [00:26]
splatster I can make iOS/Mac apps or mobile versions of websites. [00:26]
reeses ;;getrating [ident nitetrader] [00:27]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [00:27]
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danieldaniel nitetrader: let me see if my friend wants it, sec [00:29]
nitetrader k [00:29]
danieldaniel nitetrader: just called him, he already got one yesterday. lol [00:30]
rg I cant feed my family with a codpiece! [00:30]
danieldaniel codpiece? [00:30]
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sturles A large enough piece of a cod can feed a family for days! [00:31]
nitetrader lol [00:32]
nitetrader I want cod leftovers [00:33]
imsaguy a large enough anything can feed a family for days [00:33]
imsaguy derp [00:33]
sturles Not a large rock. [00:33]
sturles Or a large piece of a rock. [00:33]
imsaguy just like a large piece of rotten cod wouldn't feed a family for days ;) [00:34]
splatster Not a large bottle of glue. [00:34]
sturles Not just like. The cod can feed the family if it is fresh. The rock can not. [00:35]
sturles Wouldn't make much difference if the rock was fresh or rotten. [00:35]
splatster Someone hire me for a coding job. [00:38]
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nitetrader How can I check someones feedback? I am wanting to trade with Cusipzzz can anybody here vouch? [00:40]
Cusipzzz i'm a noob :/ [00:40]
Cusipzzz lol [00:40]
mcorlett nitetrader: ;;retrating [ident ] [00:40]
Cusipzzz ;;getrating cusipzzz [00:40]
mcorlett getrating* [00:40]
mcorlett ;;getrating [ident Cusipzzz] [00:40]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [00:40]
Cusipzzz 2010 gribble date thought [00:40]
Cusipzzz oh damn, 1 sec [00:40]
nitetrader Cusipzzz are you willing to send half first? [00:41]
Cusipzzz no, lol [00:41]
Cusipzzz i will auth in a minute [00:42]
nitetrader Ive already been ripped once today lol [00:42]
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Cusipzzz sorry, the odds of me sending anything to a new user first, are well, less than zero [00:42]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. || http://bitcoin-otc.com/ || http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 || Start with the ;;guide || Before you trade, talk to people, and check user ratings. || Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud || Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc || Bitcoin VPS: http://www.bitvps.com || Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe [07:56]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Sun Feb 26 06:25:27 2012 [07:56]
Raccoon i think so. [07:56]
Raccoon check the bitcoind -help [07:57]
splatster OS X doesn't come with bitcoind sadly [07:57]
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vragnaroda splatster: you can build it on OS X if you want. [07:57]
splatster But it does look like I have testnet going [07:57]
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splatster vragnaroda: Can I mine using bitcoin-qt? [07:57]
vragnaroda I have no idea about that one. [07:58]
splatster Only 391 days of blocks to go! [07:58]
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splatster This is going waaaay faster than I thought! [08:00]
Raccoon it slows own nearing 50% [08:01]
Raccoon as the blocks get bigger [08:01]
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splatster Raccoon: is flooding my PMs! [08:02]
splatster ZOMG I'm gonna die. [08:02]
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mircea_popescu Who wants some bitcoin options ? :D [08:05]
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splatster mircea_popescu: That sounds interesting! [08:06]
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mircea_popescu so just a little announcement : later today I am hoping to release MPEx, the supergeeky MP style exchange. [08:08]
mircea_popescu will be an open beta phase so don't miss the announcement if you want to break my code. [08:08]
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DBordello mircea_popescu, oh yeah? [08:20]
DBordello MoneyPak? [08:20]
Cory Or Mircea Popescu. [08:21]
DBordello well, then, that seems obvious, doesn't it [08:22]
DBordello I have expanded the offerings of BTCPak.com We now offer $100 and $250 MoneyPaks [08:24]
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mcorlett DBordello: Neat! Your FAQ still says you recognize the now-defunct Instawallet green address. [08:48]
DBordello mcorlett, good point. [08:48]
DBordello However, I don't :) [08:48]
splatster If bitcoin-qt testnet is using 150% cpu, is it likely that it is mining? [08:48]
mcorlett splatster: How do you use 150% of the CPU? [08:49]
gamambel DBordello: you should add to your site that moneypaks only work with US paypal accounts [08:49]
splatster mcorlett: 2 cores [08:49]
DBordello gamambel, ah, I wasn't aware of that [08:49]
splatster 100% of one core and 50% of the other [08:49]
netxshare http://www.steamcoin.net/register/ [08:50]
gamambel DBordello: it is not obvious from the moneypak site, but when i try to add a pak to my account, paypal says moneypak only work for US accounts. [08:50]
mcorlett ^ This is sadly true. [08:51]
DBordello gamambel, I will update that [08:51]
netxshare aye [08:51]
netxshare it is a US only item [08:51]
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DBordello mcorlett, updated, thanks for the suggestions [08:53]
DBordello gamambel, I added some (US Only) stuff [08:53]
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gamambel DBordello: great. [08:55]
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splatster how long should it take for me to generate a block on the testnet? [08:57]
fizzisist http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/q [08:58]
fizzisist difficulty is 3, so 3 times as long as it takes you to find a diff 1 share [08:59]
DBordello (not very) [08:59]
splatster still no blocks :/ [09:00]
splatster Also, blockexplorer is waaay out of date [09:00]
splatster like a thousand blocks behind [09:00]
coingenuity wooooooow [09:01]
coingenuity that is impressive [09:01]
MBS anyone want to buy this $20 lowes gc for $15.5 or a hollywood movie money movie voucher? [09:02]
splatster I should be at like a block a minute :/ [09:04]
splatster Still not a single block :( [09:04]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. || http://bitcoin-otc.com/ || http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 || Start with the ;;guide || Before you trade, talk to people, and check user ratings. || Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud || Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc || Bitcoin VPS: http://www.bitvps.com || Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe [12:41]
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mircea_popescu sooo, who's up for some beta testing ? [12:43]
kinlo betatesting for what? [12:43]
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mircea_popescu for my new exchange [12:44]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php << [12:44]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Soo, why do you want my private key? [12:52]
mircea_popescu you mean public key ? [12:56]
mircea_popescu lmao typo [12:56]
mircea_popescu it's teh public key. [12:56]
Kartrohm anyone wants Pecunix for BTC? [12:57]
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kakobrekla heh [12:59]
kakobrekla your projects arent really new users friendly [12:59]
kakobrekla no offense [12:59]
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fizzisist the 20BTC fee to join will keep out those few new users that aren't scared away by the gpg stuff :p [13:04]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla yea i guess not. [13:08]
mircea_popescu but if you want I can help you with it, so just ask. [13:08]
mircea_popescu fizzisist : it's waived for the beta, so it's a good time to get in now for free. [13:09]
kakobrekla i want to help you build better design :) [13:09]
mircea_popescu i think we fundamentally disagree on what a "better" design is. [13:09]
mircea_popescu i make things that can not be craked. [13:09]
mircea_popescu you want things that look pretty. [13:09]
kakobrekla yeah [13:09]
kakobrekla we disagree [13:09]
kakobrekla cause that is not what i had i mind [13:09]
mircea_popescu do tell ? [13:09]
kakobrekla well [13:10]
kakobrekla your user interfaces are most confusing [13:10]
kakobrekla and you dont need a nice picucture [13:10]
kakobrekla to make it better [13:10]
kakobrekla picture* [13:10]
mircea_popescu but it's mostly made to work as part of scripts kakobrekla [13:10]
kakobrekla hm? [13:11]
mircea_popescu the intent is not for people to in general use the web interface. you can directly curl to it. [13:11]
mircea_popescu the web interface is there just as a sort of "emergency gauge" so to speak. [13:12]
kakobrekla eh [13:12]
kakobrekla i hope you didnt write api that handles html elements [13:12]
kakobrekla i mean [13:12]
kakobrekla you do have a proper api, rith [13:12]
kakobrekla right [13:12]
mircea_popescu im unsure what you're asking. [13:13]
kakobrekla well, you are saying your site is made for machines to use [13:13]
mircea_popescu yea ? [13:13]
kakobrekla well, its not a good practice to use curl and php html dom for example [13:13]
mircea_popescu what's a php html do ? [13:14]
mircea_popescu php html dom* [13:14]
kakobrekla fetching html site and importing it as an object [13:14]
mircea_popescu olp, you mean cause it spits out text ? it only does that if you don't have a valid POST [13:14]
kakobrekla ah [13:15]
kakobrekla you just have some posts [13:15]
mircea_popescu 1. [13:15]
kakobrekla dunno [13:15]
frauf kakobrekla can you explain what your nickanems pls [13:15]
Kartrohm BTC for PX? noone? [13:15]
kakobrekla i made lots of sites [13:15]
frauf *means [13:15]
kakobrekla and never build it like that [13:15]
mircea_popescu well ya but you probably make websites. [13:15]
kakobrekla well would love to use options but not this way [13:16]
kakobrekla frauf: is what a girl would say: "how should i say" [13:17]
mircea_popescu this has nothing to do with options tho [13:17]
kakobrekla in slovene. [13:17]
frauf cool [13:17]
mircea_popescu it's mostly a stock exchange. [13:17]
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kakobrekla it has to do with the way a user uses it [13:17]
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kakobrekla i think you are doing a great job with options [13:18]
mircea_popescu this might be a good niche for you then, write a "nice user" layer on top of it, and make money. [13:18]
kakobrekla its just that on the other hand [13:18]
mircea_popescu be like a broker. [13:18]
kakobrekla you are suprised why not many users uses it [13:18]
kakobrekla well at least that is what i got [13:18]
kakobrekla from the PR postings [13:19]
mircea_popescu hm ? [13:19]
kakobrekla fe [13:19]
kakobrekla free bitcoins? :) [13:19]
mircea_popescu well yea. [13:19]
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mircea_popescu it was funny, 8 people tried 4 managed. [13:19]
kakobrekla see what im saying :) [13:20]
kakobrekla and shit was free. [13:20]
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mircea_popescu :)) [13:21]
mircea_popescu but the thing is, i'm not making a laundromat here. [13:21]
mircea_popescu stock exchanges, options desks, these are things for high qualified people. [13:21]
vragnaroda sturles: Rankine is usually referred to as °R. °Ré and °Rø were never defined well enough by their actual users to really merit serious comparison to other temperature scales. [13:22]
mircea_popescu it's not like a bar, anyoen goes in. [13:22]
kakobrekla well [13:22]
kakobrekla its complicated only because its complicated [13:22]
kakobrekla it could be made simpler. [13:22]
mircea_popescu how ? [13:22]
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kakobrekla well dunno i havent put much thought into it yet [13:23]
kakobrekla but im sure there are better ways [13:23]
kakobrekla to handle it [13:23]
mircea_popescu ... [13:23]
kakobrekla remember, im one of the four [13:23]
kakobrekla that got trough. [13:24]
kakobrekla :D [13:24]
mircea_popescu you are sure there are better ways to handle it in spite of not having put much thought into it ? [13:24]
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kakobrekla well yeah i have some ideas [13:24]
mircea_popescu kinda why it's a beta, don;'t be shy now :) [13:24]
kakobrekla but one has to think about it more before making decisions [13:24]
kakobrekla well [13:25]
kakobrekla i would go for more radical changes [13:25]
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kakobrekla emailing you after purchase is a no-go [13:25]
mircea_popescu are we talking about mpex or mpoe here ? [13:26]
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kakobrekla i was talking about this http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/options.php [13:26]
WBuffett kakobrekla: http://polimedia.us/btc <-- trade BTC/USD options [13:27]
mircea_popescu a yea, that's mpoe. ok. [13:27]
sturles vragnaroda: Where Réaumur is (or was) used, it is also usually referred to as °R, unless it may be confused with other scales. All Réaumur scaled thermometers I've seen (OK, _the_ Réaumur thermometer I've seen) use °R. [13:27]
mircea_popescu so you have to email before you buy, because otherwise you can't ever get paid. [13:27]
kakobrekla ... [13:28]
kakobrekla that is as unfriendly as it gets. [13:28]
da2ce7 hello all. [13:28]
mircea_popescu sturles : i've seen a few and they all had the degree before the R too. [13:28]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 : go try my beta stock exchange! [13:28]
`g hai [13:28]
da2ce7 mircea_popescu: linky? [13:28]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php [13:28]
vragnaroda That's odd. [13:29]
vragnaroda Which Réaumur scale was it? [13:30]
mircea_popescu umm... the french one ? :) [13:31]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Which one? [13:32]
da2ce7 mircea_popescu: check your inbox for my public key. [13:33]
mircea_popescu i really have no ideea, but prolly the water boils at 80kind [13:33]
vragnaroda Different thermometer manufacturers came up with different ‘standards’ and called them that. [13:33]
mircea_popescu omg da2ce7 resend armored pls. [13:33]
rawrmage lol [13:34]
vragnaroda rofl [13:34]
rawrmage did he send an unarmoured key [13:34]
da2ce7 :P what is it in the standard pgp-mime format. [13:34]
rawrmage hopefully as an attachment? [13:34]
mircea_popescu --armor [13:34]
mircea_popescu yes as an attach [13:34]
da2ce7 ok.... [13:34]
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sturles vragnaroda: The Réaumur scale was actually well defined. Some small errors arose when producers used mercury instead of alcohol (as the scale was defined from), but nothing serious for intended use. [13:36]
vragnaroda ‘for intended use’ is a rather bland way of putting that. [13:37]
sturles The alcohol Réaumur used, was defined to have it's boiling point at 80°C, which made it unsuitable for measuring higher temperatures. [13:37]
da2ce7 mircea_popescu: see dose that work? [13:38]
sturles It is fine within it's intended interval. [13:38]
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da2ce7 ... [13:39]
rawrmage its! [13:39]
rawrmage itssssssssss [13:39]
rawrmage NO BUCKING APOSTROPHE [13:39]
mircea_popescu like a charm da2ce7, setting you uop [13:39]
vragnaroda sturles: That intended interval makes it really incomparable with better-defined scales. [13:40]
da2ce7 great! I'll be back later. [13:40]
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mircea_popescu da2ce7 : you're good to go [13:41]
mircea_popescu give it a STAT [13:41]
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mircea_popescu i don't do ctc rawrmage. query me instead. [13:42]
vragnaroda lol [13:42]
sturles vragnaroda: Perhaps, but a better defined scale wouldn't make any difference within the precision of your measurement. [13:42]
* `g ponies #bitcoin-otc [13:42]
* rawrmage ponies `g [13:42]
Kartrohm Looking for BTC in exchange for Pecunix Gold [13:43]
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sturles vragnaroda: And it is beside the point. Rankine, Réaumur and Rømer are all old standards and almost out of use execpt for very special cases. So °R is ambigous. [13:44]
vragnaroda sturles: Rankine was well-defined by its users who made it clear that °R was the only acceptable abbreviation. [13:46]
vragnaroda Anything other than that is invalid just as writing ‘twelve Kelvins’ as B4 is invalid. [13:46]
vragnaroda No standards body ever defined Réaumur as anything useful. [13:47]
sturles Do you have a reference to the claim that °R is the only acceptable abbreviation? [13:49]
sturles The Wikipedia article on temperature conversion should be corrected in that case. [13:50]
sturles What standards body defined the Rankine scale, btw? [13:51]
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vragnaroda paraipan: We don't care. [13:52]
vragnaroda paulzag: * [13:52]
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SpeedBus Hey ! [13:52]
rawrmage vragnaroda: batsim! [13:52]
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vragnaroda NIST [13:54]
sturles vragnaroda: Rankine is actually based on Rømer. With some later modifications. [13:54]
vragnaroda Are you smoking crack? [13:55]
rawrmage lol [13:55]
sturles Nope. It is based on Farenheit, which was based on Rømer. [13:55]
vragnaroda Sure, and Centigrade is based on Kelvin. [13:56]
rawrmage cráck [13:56]
sturles Rømer times 4, modifies so that freezing point of water is 32, not 30. [13:56]
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sturles vragnaroda: No, Farenheit is much older than Rankine. Rankine is Farenheit shifted to make 0 absolute zero. [13:57]
vragnaroda Fahrenheit has the same freezing point of brine as Rømer. [13:57]
vragnaroda I know what Rankine is. [13:57]
sturles http://www.sizes.com/units/temperature_Fahrenheit.htm - History tab. [13:58]
sturles First footnote. [13:59]
vragnaroda That one predated the other is not in question. It's your claim of ‘based on’ which is not supported by that. [13:59]
sturles Rankine is just a recalibration of Farenheit, which is based on Rømer. => Rankine is based on Rømer. [14:01]
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vragnaroda Fahrenheit is not based on Rømer. [14:02]
rawrmage øh nø [14:02]
NeedHelp Hello! [14:02]
vragnaroda Your claim requires redefining the word ‘base.’ [14:02]
NeedHelp Can someone please help me out to change a paysafecard into BTC? [14:02]
kakobrekla NeedHelp: #bitcoin-otc-eu [14:04]
`g NeedHelp: virwox. [14:05]
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seco or you msging gamambel or me (according to orderbook :-) [14:06]
NeedHelp ok, thank you for bitcoin-otc.. [14:10]
NeedHelp virwox is so expansive, Or? [14:10]
seco not very expensive, since you have to go over those lindendollars afaik: just reply on people with trust here at bitcoin-otc who need what you offer, but offer what you need :) [14:11]
seco rely* [14:11]
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NeedHelp hmm.. how can i contact the users on bitcoin-otc... there is not option to "register"..... and when i click the name no contact information is displayed... [14:15]
NeedHelp Thank you people! [14:15]
mircea_popescu hello needhelp :) [14:15]
SomeoneWeird NeedHelp, try contacting them here [14:15]
SomeoneWeird (on irc) [14:15]
Metabank WTS 100 mtgox usd @ pp [14:15]
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Bigpiggy01Mining ;;tell NeedHelp [GUIDE] [14:16]
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NeedHelp aha.. i understood.. i have to contact people over this forum.. ? is this right? [14:17]
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seco NeedHelp: in case you want to trade more often then one time follow http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Third-party_guides to get account here; but if you need urgently some BTC we can do also without registration, but the risk will be on your side :p [14:17]
sturles vragnaroda: No it doesn't. Rmømer times 4. Rømer is the fondation of which the scale is based, 4 is just a facttor. [14:17]
vragnaroda sturles: ##religion is that way → [14:18]
NeedHelp hehe.. no problem with the risk... but you are right.. i would need the change as FAST as possible:) [14:18]
sturles vragnaroda: This is not religion, it is facts. [14:18]
sturles Well known facts. [14:19]
sturles Geez. [14:19]
vragnaroda sturles: No, you're attempting to redefine terms contrary to their normal meanings to be in line with your dogma. [14:19]
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SpeedBus :D [14:20]
sturles vragnaroda: How would you explain it? Rooted in Rømer? [14:20]
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vragnaroda It's not that, either. [14:20]
NeedHelp it logged me out.. [14:20]
vragnaroda You could say it's inspired by Rømer. [14:20]
NeedHelp But thank you all for your Help!!!! [14:20]
NeedHelp I dont know if you answered, becous i was logged out so sorry for questioning again: How is it possible on the fastest way? [14:21]
sturles vragnaroda: Just like the Farenheit scale was inspired by Farenheit, then? It was redefined later. [14:21]
sturles vragnaroda: Adjusted for boiling point of water beeing 212 °F. [14:22]
NeedHelp or what do you meant about .... fast, but risk is on my side.... did you mean the "contact users directly way" [14:22]
seco i meant you need to pay first, then trust the other party to check if your PSC-pin is valid, and then await the bitcoins :) [14:23]
sturles vragnaroda: And 0 was chosen to be colder than it gets in Denmark. Great. [14:23]
vragnaroda *Fahrenheit and Fahrenheit himself redefined it at least three times. [14:23]
seco always check rating before you do a trade, to lower the possibility the other party runs away with your money [14:24]
NeedHelp ok.. i understand.. so how can i proceed? looking if one vendor is online, and write to him.. [14:24]
NeedHelp ah, hello seco.. [14:24]
NeedHelp am I right and you are a seller for BTC [14:24]
seco ;) [14:24]
sturles vragnaroda: Yep. Even Réaumur have fewer versions than that. :-) [14:25]
NeedHelp hehe:) [14:25]
NeedHelp Thank you for answering.. i was just searching for you.. ! [14:25]
NeedHelp Can you help me out ? [14:25]
GlooBoy what are you selling? [14:25]
seco NeedHelp: please talk to me in private message [14:25]
sturles vragnaroda: Nice article about Farenheit/Rankine: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1266/on-the-fahrenheit-scale-do-0-and-100-have-any-special-significance [14:26]
NeedHelp Ok, how can i do that? [14:26]
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seco something should blink on your browsertab where you chat, with my name on [14:27]
vragnaroda sturles: No, Ráumur has not once been standardized. Its creator made something, called it a standard, and different manufacturers treated it differently. [14:28]
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vragnaroda Also, that article's irrelevant. [14:29]
vragnaroda (and not even particularly well written) [14:29]
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sturles vragnaroda: How is it irrelevant? It explains how Farenheit used Rømer's scale as a basis for his own scale. [14:31]
vragnaroda Quit redefining terms. [14:32]
vragnaroda That's not what basis means. [14:32]
vragnaroda Quit hilighting me for nonsense, too. [14:32]
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mircea_popescu sooo, anyone else want to participate in my exchange's beta ? [14:33]
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mircea_popescu there's free imaginary moneys and various stocks [14:33]
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sturles vragnaroda: What dictionary are you using? From dictionary.reference.com: anything upon which something is based; fundamental principle; groundwork. [14:34]
vragnaroda sturles: Stop it. [14:35]
sturles The Farenheit scale was indeed based on Rømer. [14:35]
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mircea_popescu eh for chrissakes [14:35]
mircea_popescu you're not about to kick sturles are you ?! [14:35]
sturles The groundwork. [14:35]
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vragnaroda mircea_popescu: I won't rule it out but I don't plan on it yet. [14:36]
sturles Farenheit just multiplied and adjusted the scale a little. And a little more. And then a little. Etc. In several versions. [14:36]
vragnaroda sturles: Knock it off. [14:36]
sturles vragnaroda: Is the truth annoying to you? What is your version? [14:37]
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btcsantander I'm learning a lot about temperature scales here :P [14:38]
kakobrekla not anymore! [14:39]
vragnaroda You can certainly go to other channels for that. [14:39]
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sturles Farenheit is defined as a conversion from the Kelvin scale now, isn't it? [14:42]
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NeedHelp hello seco, i unfortunately closed the PM.. how can i reanimate it? [14:43]
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Joric_ always wanted to ask why freddy mercury is mr fahrenheit ? vragnaroda should know [14:44]
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seco NeedHelp: no problem, i can msg you again :) [14:44]
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mircea_popescu pm reanimator service :D [15:07]
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sturles My bot is almost fully loaded with BTC. I don't know any more bullish signs than that. Let's see if it is right again.. [15:11]
angusbates100 selling $40 http://www.thebodyshop-usa.com/ email gift card for bitcoins pm me. [15:12]
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frauf can i has access to your bot [15:15]
frauf is it like an ATM? [15:15]
vite morning [15:16]
sturles frauf: No. If more than one bot use the same strategy, all will fail. [15:17]
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sturles At best none of them will make any profit. [15:19]
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frauf i didnt catch the strat [15:28]
frauf does it involve strings and moving widgets [15:28]
ne0futur NeedHelp: yes virwox is very expensive, until you get enough volume to have 80 % discount on fees [15:30]
ne0futur I could reach up to 60 % discount when I was daytrading there [15:30]
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Bigpiggy01Mining Forbes again http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/03/12/brainwallet-the-ultimate-in-mobile-money/ [15:34]
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helo nice that they're moving beyond "bitcoin will fail!" or "bitcoin will succeed!" to assumming the latter [15:37]
coingenuity nice Bigpiggy01Mining [15:38]
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Metabank WTS 100 mtgox usd @ pp [15:40]
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Keefe Metabank: will buy for $99 [15:42]
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Metabank you pay the fee [15:43]
Keefe no deal. but i'll send as personal [15:43]
Keefe any cross-border fee (usa here) is on you [15:43]
Metabank no, thanks for offer thou [15:43]
Keefe ok [15:44]
neofutur ;;gettrust Metabank [15:45]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user Metabank: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ne0futur&dest=Metabank [15:45]
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mircea_popescu gpg based stock exchange for btc stocks looking for beta tester ppls! [16:00]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php << [16:00]
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helo does it use the WoT? [16:16]
mircea_popescu helo : in a sense. [16:18]
`g sr need a wot [16:20]
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mircea_popescu sr = ? [16:26]
Y0nderboy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nonab6djMAA [16:28]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: milktoads [16:28]
mircea_popescu omg stop confusing esl users! [16:28]
bruzum mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silkroad_Online [16:29]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Silk Road :p [16:29]
mircea_popescu o o o i c. [16:29]
mircea_popescu im not doing enough drugs to be hip [16:29]
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bruzum it's a fantasy MMORPG [16:29]
vragnaroda bruzum: lol, not that one. [16:29]
bruzum :D [16:29]
bruzum hahahah [16:29]
vragnaroda this one → http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace) [16:29]
bruzum yeah [16:30]
mircea_popescu but anyway, to answer the original q : it uses the wot inasmuch as i won't allow issuance of random joe blows, into which determination wot figures to a large degree. [16:30]
vragnaroda bruzum: Although, 실크로드 온라인 looks interesting. ;) [16:30]
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bruzum vragnaroda: the real silk road is quite coool. do you know its history? [16:32]
bruzum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road [16:32]
vragnaroda Although, it ought to be 실그로드 온라인, dammit! silk is /sɪlk/, not /sɪlkʰ(ɯ)/. [16:33]
vragnaroda bruzum: Yes, as difficult as it may be to believe, I did pass the fifth grade. [16:33]
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vragnaroda :p [16:33]
bruzum vragnaroda: i didnt know about it til the online one [16:34]
bruzum vragnaroda: well, i've always known there have been eur-asia trading routes [16:34]
vragnaroda You went to a shitty school. [16:34]
bruzum yeah [16:34]
bruzum and that silk was traded from china [16:34]
bruzum but not more [16:34]
bruzum !!! [16:34]
bruzum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road [16:35]
bruzum oops [16:35]
helo it's bitcoin developer cowboy time! [16:35]
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helo the 1-tx bandit is motivating discussion of a hardfork [16:41]
lordcyfer Hello planet bitcoiner [16:42]
Graet that depends on how you read it helo - i see one dev saying that no-one else ;) [16:43]
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mircea_popescu draco49 : added you. [16:44]
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mircea_popescu what 1-tx bandit ? [16:45]
Graet headdesk [16:45]
Graet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68396 [16:45]
helo mircea_popescu: there is apparently someone with ~16% hashrate that is not including other transactions in their blocks (1-tx per block only) [16:45]
mircea_popescu a a [16:45]
mircea_popescu not exactly a "bandit" [16:46]
mircea_popescu let people pay. [16:46]
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gmaxwell helo: 13% is more likely— 16% includes _all_ 1tx blocks, 2.7% of blocks previously were 1TX. [16:46]
helo it will reduce the reward for legitimate miners if it continues through a difficulty increase [16:47]
gmaxwell helo: and please don't spread misinformation, no one has even suggested an _idea_ that requires a hardfork. [16:47]
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mircea_popescu gmaxwell : let people add fees. [16:47]
vragnaroda gmaxwell: Well, some have but no one that has a chance in hell of being taken seriously. I haven't heard/seen it mentioned over this issue, anyway. [16:48]
gmaxwell vragnaroda: I was speaking specifically to this issue. [16:49]
vragnaroda OK. [16:49]
helo gmaxwell: my mistake... is "requiring miners to hash previous inputs to verify full node capabilities" not a hard fork [16:50]
gmaxwell helo: no. It's not. [16:50]
vragnaroda Generally, people suggesting that kind of ‘solution’ need to be slapped around a bit, anyway. [16:50]
helo i guess i don't know what a hard fork is [16:50]
mircea_popescu gmaxwell : suppose a miner doesn't follow your new spec. is he ouyt of the loop ? if yes -> hardfork. [16:50]
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gmaxwell mircea_popescu: no, thats not a hardfork. [16:51]
gmaxwell The migration is exactly the same thing as the height-in-coinbase thats planned after BIP30. [16:51]
mircea_popescu this isn't one of those things that can be resolved by declaration i don't think... [16:52]
gmaxwell A hardfork is something that makes old nodes incompatible with the old chain. [16:52]
mircea_popescu and won't they be ? since they've never had H1. [16:52]
gmaxwell mircea_popescu: sure it can be. If you use that definition then BIP30 is a hardfork. [16:52]
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gmaxwell (As are BIP12/16/17) [16:52]
mircea_popescu myea. which it is. so my ideea'd be let's not do hardforks to resolve problems that don't exist. [16:53]
helo so non-hardfork validation changes include "after block N, require ____", making it not a hardfork? [16:53]
mircea_popescu a miner not including cheapo transactions is exactly how the suystem is supposed to work [16:53]
vragnaroda Yeah, that's annoying but it's not a problem. [16:53]
gmaxwell helo: No. A hardfork is something that breaks existing nodes. These changes do not because the blocks they produce are still valid under the old rules. [16:54]
mircea_popescu but the old ones aren't valid under the new rules [16:54]
draco49 thanks mircea_popescu :) [16:54]
mircea_popescu draco49 having fun ? :D [16:54]
vragnaroda Old ones are. [16:54]
gmaxwell mircea_popescu: No, old blockas are always valid. [16:54]
vragnaroda New ones under old rules are not. [16:54]
mircea_popescu im confused. [16:55]
gmaxwell mircea_popescu: Yes, apparently so. [16:55]
mircea_popescu but all that aside. miners not including transactions is not something that should be "solved". [16:55]
gmaxwell mircea_popescu: Bitcoin supports backwards compatible upgrades: So long as you forbid things which were previously permitted its backwards compatible. [16:55]
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gmaxwell mircea_popescu: go convince chicken little (finway) who keeps spamming #bitcoin-dev with fire and brimstone. [16:56]
draco49 mircea_popescu, just woke up... too early for fun :P [16:56]
mircea_popescu that is bs. if you forbid new block generation isn NOT compatible. [16:56]
mircea_popescu well im not trying to convince anyone, but i thought the bitcointalk post was yours ? [16:56]
gmaxwell mircea_popescu: ... Yes, I posted in order to give people something less than completely moronic to talk about. But I think it's a stupid concern (at the moment). [16:57]
mircea_popescu a5m0, so then we agree. [16:57]
sipa rules that make previously-allowed things illegal can be deployed in a backward-compatible way if 50% of miners, or almost all other nodes agree [16:58]
mircea_popescu anyway, my prev was misstated, let me try again : an upgrade to outright forbid new blocks being generated passes the test of "forbid things which were previously permitted" but it still could not be said to be compatible. [16:58]
sipa rules that make previously-invalid things legal can be deployed only using a full network upgrade [16:58]
helo if a change was made to require miners to prove they are full nodes, couldn't the botnet just start including a list of full nodes to pull the required data from? [16:58]
helo s/including/using/ [16:59]
sipa helo: and that isn't what we want? :) [16:59]
mircea_popescu i seriously doubt a botnet actually produces 16% of 1.7mn diff. [16:59]
mircea_popescu that would have to be literally tens of millions of units. [16:59]
sipa or decent GPUs [16:59]
mircea_popescu then it's not a botnet ? [16:59]
sipa why not? [17:00]
helo sipa: that doesnt' mean they have to start including transactions [17:00]
mircea_popescu or you mean, it's the diablo3 botnet, only infects gamers ? [17:00]
vragnaroda You can't make systems prove they're not botnets. [17:00]
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helo 30M nodes is the largest confirmed botnet [17:00]
vragnaroda That's just idiotic and impractical. [17:00]
mircea_popescu yea, what vragnaroda said. this is as stupid as captcha. [17:00]
gmaxwell ... [17:00]
mircea_popescu helo that guy is not mining for $500 a day ffs. [17:00]
gmaxwell I never suggested nodes proving they aren't botnets or whatever, thats freeking idiotic. [17:01]
mircea_popescu what are they proving then ? that they know the chain ? [17:01]
gmaxwell That they are actually validating the chain. [17:01]
gmaxwell (or at least that they know the required information to do so) [17:01]
mircea_popescu well ? [17:01]
Graet um, old botnets used cpus, newer botnets use smarter software that DOES check and mine on best or both [17:02]
mircea_popescu big difference there. [17:02]
gmaxwell mircea_popescu: to be clear, I'm not proposing actually doing that— I think it's dumb idea right now. I said as much in #bitcoin-dev see the logs. [17:03]
mircea_popescu well ok, i just casually stumbled on the forum link cause someone posted it here. [17:03]
mircea_popescu so i don't have the full story. [17:03]
sipa ;;bc,nethash [17:03]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,nethash [17:03]
gribble 11610.240708968286 [17:03]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: What's this link? [17:04]
mircea_popescu ugg let me digg [17:04]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68396 [17:04]
mircea_popescu actually maybe the girl sent it to me ? [17:04]
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sipa 16% of the network power is "only" 2300 6990's :) [17:05]
mircea_popescu yeah. [17:05]
Graet oh to own 2300 6990's - i'd sell em in -otc and make a killing :P [17:05]
mircea_popescu lol graet no you wouldn [17:05]
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mircea_popescu t [17:05]
Graet tru [17:06]
Graet we can dream tho? right? [17:06]
Graet lmao [17:06]
mircea_popescu i guess you could do a pretty decent simulation of hell [17:07]
mircea_popescu 2.3k 6990s with no cooling [17:07]
Graet on a 40degC day i could raise the temp of my entire city 2degrees :P [17:09]
rawrmage lol [17:09]
luke-jr mircea_popescu: don't bet on it [17:11]
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mircea_popescu knotwork : you're good to go. [17:14]
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knotwork mircea thanks [17:14]
mircea_popescu luke-jr what am i not betting on ? [17:15]
knotwork I had hell of a time pasting to yahoo mail though, somehow xclip just wasnt working, had to get it one screenful at a time into mousebuffer manually but figured you would not appreciate attachment [17:15]
luke-jr mircea_popescu: simulating Hell [17:15]
mircea_popescu not just about teh temperatures ? [17:16]
luke-jr … [17:17]
knotwork luke: so? if latest fixes to open transactions werent taking couple extra unexpected weeks my exchange would be doing much the same so I am interested to look at mircea's implementation [17:17]
helo mircea_popescu: btw, they're mining about $5000/day i think [17:17]
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mircea_popescu not too shabby, but still, under .1 cents per box. [17:18]
mircea_popescu knotwork yeah, it was fine as it was for my needs :) [17:19]
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helo i would bet $2M/year is astoundingly profitable for a botnet [17:20]
mircea_popescu ;;seen cory [17:20]
gribble cory was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 7 hours, 32 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: Until somebody resets the testnet. [17:20]
mircea_popescu is he gonna have the shock of his life when he wakes up. [17:20]
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knotwork helo for raw pure botnet direct earnings maybe, but its maybe just an extra on the side compared to the identities and bank/paypal/etc accounts harvested and the proceeds of such a harvest [17:21]
helo i doubt the owner cares what the per box efficiency is... that's kind of the point of a botnet [17:22]
knotwork I would think though that passing around the previous block to the bots cant be much harder than passing them a piece of work [17:22]
knotwork must be plenty of places a bot could get a copy of previous block, given somehow they are already getting a block to work on [17:23]
knotwork they already trust whoever gives them work that its valdi work so why not ask for previous block too please if H1 goes into effect [17:23]
knotwork s/valdi/valid/ [17:23]
helo yeah... there's not really any way to stop it [17:23]
mircea_popescu nor should there be. on either count [17:24]
mircea_popescu (ie, 1tx blocks and botnet mining being the two counts) [17:24]
helo just have to hope the bot's size doesn't get too big [17:24]
mircea_popescu helo : i hope it gets big [17:24]
mircea_popescu if it does, all the other botmasters will join in too [17:24]
mircea_popescu as a result... nobody will be big enough. [17:24]
helo the size of this botnet doesn't determine how interested other botmasters are [17:25]
knotwork maybe all the botnets will come up with a way to solve the byzantine general problem of when to all switch to an even nastier mode of operation [17:26]
mircea_popescu lol maybe [17:26]
knotwork so they can all co-ordinate an attack [17:26]
helo it would be pretty bad for legit miners if that were to happen [17:26]
gmaxwell knotwork: Because the previous block is _not enough_ to compute H1. [17:26]
knotwork gmaxwell AHA moment, gotcha [17:27]
mircea_popescu helo : i think the definition of "legit" is limited to the proof of work [17:27]
helo "it would be pretty bad for people who have invested their own resources to mine" [17:28]
knotwork so one of those watcher type sites maybe? honst those addresses are mine, please tell me outputs on its trnasactions? [17:28]
knotwork s/honst/honest/ [17:28]
mircea_popescu helo prolly, that. [17:28]
luke-jr who wants to help the dev team out? :P [17:28]
helo not it! [17:28]
luke-jr need at least 2 Windows users, 1 Linux, and 1 Mac [17:29]
gmaxwell knotwork: not outputs, inputs. And if they're willing/able to fetch inputs then they could equally include transactions. [17:29]
luke-jr ideally non-developers [17:29]
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knotwork gmaxwell I meant outputs of the addresses the input is coming from [17:29]
luke-jr https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68339.0 [17:29]
knotwork luke I run Fedora 15 linux [17:30]
knotwork 16 [17:30]
luke-jr also, can't have used 0.6 yet [17:30]
gmaxwell knotwork: ::nods:: the point there is that if they're eventually need to get the inputs for txn X in order to build the hash when X makes it into the chain.. then they can do that and include X in the chain themselves with ~no additional cost. [17:31]
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knotwork luke yuck, GUI, what exactly I gotta check that it does? [17:31]
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luke-jr knotwork: at least that it works [17:32]
luke-jr knotwork: bitcoind testing is helpful too [17:32]
knotwork luke I am running github trunk bitcoind last pulled couple days ago [17:32]
luke-jr knotwork: 0.6/master wallets aren't compatible with 0.4/0.5 [17:33]
knotwork this stuff isnt in the trunk yet? [17:33]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68416.0 << top quality drama. [17:33]
mircea_popescu where'd we be w/o btctalk ? [17:33]
luke-jr knotwork: it is [17:33]
luke-jr knotwork: but it's 0.5.3rc4 we need tested soonest [17:33]
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knotwork luke ok then bitcoind seems to work fine then [17:33]
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luke-jr knotwork: wait, bitcoind 0.5.3rc4 worked with your 0.6 wallet? O.o [17:34]
knotwork bah bitcoind --version complains the port is taken so I cant even ask it what version it is [17:35]
luke-jr lol [17:35]
luke-jr knotwork: there is no --version :p [17:36]
luke-jr try -? [17:36]
knotwork I get a 0.6 wallet if latest stuff is 0.5.x ? [17:36]
luke-jr O.o [17:36]
luke-jr knotwork: git master tree is 0.6 [17:36]
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luke-jr 0.5.x is a stable branch [17:37]
knotwork no --version is silly ommission [17:37]
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luke-jr knotwork: patches welcome :P [17:37]
bitcoinTrader ;;seen kartrohm [17:37]
knotwork --version maybe even should into some kind of POSIX or something standard [17:37]
knotwork Bitcoin version 0.6.0-beta [17:38]
knotwork I guess my wallet must've been upgraded to 0.6. it doesnt' automatically encrypt it does it? [17:38]
Blitzboom bitcoin prices are finally getting stable [17:39]
kakobrekla *CRASH TO ZERO* [17:40]
mircea_popescu they are pretty remarkably stable. [17:40]
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luke-jr knotwork: no [17:41]
luke-jr knotwork: 0.6 uses compressed keys [17:41]
luke-jr older versions don't understand them [17:41]
da2ce7 I want a 1000 btc option for selling at 5btc in two months??? What bids do I have? [17:41]
knotwork someone taught folk on speculator section of bitcointalk how to trade trends so maybe no surprise that we haven't seen much trending lately [17:41]
pigeons mircea_popescu: i saw your ad on bitcoincharts, nice [17:42]
BossKom lol trend trading [17:43]
mircea_popescu hehe pigeons, only been there ~2 weeks now :D [17:43]
knotwork I wonder how one trades flatlines? pick something else, that is trending/volatile in meantime? need more-active altcoin trading so the up and down addicts have something to keep them glued to their screens all day/night until trends / swings rturn to main chain [17:43]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 : http://polimedia.us/btc [17:43]
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mircea_popescu knotwork : you could short sell options. [17:43]
knotwork yeah options aren't on open transactions roadmap yet unfortunately. [17:44]
da2ce7 mircea_popescu: do I want a call or a put? [17:44]
mircea_popescu knotwork : you can use my site ? [17:44]
copumpkin da2ce7: for 500 btc, I'll buy the 479.66 option for you :) [17:45]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 either way works, if price is stable you get your premium [17:45]
mircea_popescu hey copumpkin [17:45]
mircea_popescu go test mpex! [17:45]
copumpkin hi :) [17:45]
copumpkin I'm busy now! [17:45]
mircea_popescu ooooo [17:45]
copumpkin what's mpex? [17:45]
mircea_popescu kay :) [17:45]
knotwork I plan to run umpteen bots all using slightly different trend trading algorithms trading all the altcoins plus many that arent actually out in the wild as blockchains lately plus each bot also being a thing they can all buys shares in [17:45]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php << mpex. it rules. [17:45]
knotwork then have battle of the bots, see what they do [17:45]
[imsaguy] ;;bc,stats [17:45]
gribble Current Blocks: 170847 | Current Difficulty: 1496978.5950256 | Next Difficulty At Block: 171359 | Next Difficulty In: 512 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 7 hours, 13 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1517503.26490389 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.37107303646 [17:45]
mircea_popescu they will die in a dearth of liquidity knotwork [17:46]
knotwork only if they keep triggering each other. I hope instead to get them to jsut stay inactive unless something moves, then all pile in at their different timescales to turn the move into a trend [17:46]
knotwork then hopefully end up flat again until another move happens [17:47]
knotwork once I have that, then I will look at more bots that actually cause moves in the first place [17:47]
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da2ce7 mircea_popescu: can you walk me throogh this... I want the option to sell my bitcoin at say 4.8 in two months... what of the choices on your site do I choose? [17:47]
knotwork they will represent joe public predictably reacting to the market moves, basically [17:48]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 : do you figure it goes up or down ? [17:48]
nanotube da2ce7: then you need a put option. [17:48]
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mircea_popescu @nanotube : either long put or short call [17:49]
nanotube mircea_popescu: with a short call, you don't have the option. the other guy does :P [17:49]
knotwork I also want to try giving them a strategy of buying when they see a price lower than the average they paid historically and never selling for less than the average they paid historically [17:49]
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da2ce7 mircea_popescu: I expect the bitcoin price to go up. but I want the option to sell at 4.8 even tho it hash droped. [17:50]
mircea_popescu well yea, but it still delivers what he's after i think. [17:50]
knotwork also they will have different ideas of which asset is "money" and which are merely foreign stuff they speculate in [17:50]
nanotube da2ce7: so basically, you want to protect yourself from price drops? [17:50]
da2ce7 nanotube: yes. [17:50]
nanotube then buy the put option it is. [17:50]
da2ce7 I have a known expence in 2 months in USD. [17:50]
da2ce7 :) [17:51]
nanotube the mpoe has strike prices in 0.5usd increments, so you could either buy put at 5, or at 4.5 [17:51]
mircea_popescu yea was gonna say, no 4.8 atm. [17:51]
helo just make a sell order at 4.80, and buy at 4.80 if it gets back there? [17:51]
nanotube helo: yea that's another alternative. but then you give up any potential upside (i.e., what if it goes to 10) [17:52]
mircea_popescu lol kinda contingent helo [17:52]
da2ce7 helo: I expect the bitcoin price to rise, quite a bit. [17:52]
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mircea_popescu so da2ce7 : let me explain this entire thing in detail. [17:52]
da2ce7 however I need to back myself up incase I get the timing of the rally wrong. [17:52]
easye420 hey, im looking to get some bitcoins through paypal [17:52]
easye420 can anyone help me [17:52]
mircea_popescu if you are long calls and price goes up you make money. if price drops or stays the same you lose money. [17:53]
mircea_popescu if you are long puts and price goes down you make money. if price goes up or stays the same you lose money. [17:53]
mircea_popescu if you are short calls and price goes up you lose A TON of money. if price drops or stays the same you make money. [17:53]
mircea_popescu if you are short puts and price goes down you lose A TON of money. if price goes up or stays the same you make money. [17:54]
nanotube hehe yep that pretty much sums it up. [17:54]
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mircea_popescu yeah. so pick, either 2 wins 1 lose or 2 lose 1 win packages and the proper directions and you're set. [17:55]
Blitzboom wait, you lose a ton of money and don’t make a ton of money in the other direction? [17:55]
Blitzboom with shorts [17:55]
knotwork so basically on coinflips if you're short either you will tend to lose? [17:55]
Blitzboom sounds like a good deal [17:55]
mircea_popescu blitzboom : the longs are make money one way lose two ways [17:56]
mircea_popescu the shorts are make money two ways lose one way [17:56]
mircea_popescu course you lose more when you do. [17:56]
nanotube yes options are asymmetric. presumably market price adjusts to make it worth it for both parties to make a trade, given their needs and expectations. [17:56]
Blitzboom nanotube: yes exactly, i expect a free market to be as efficient [17:56]
nanotube think the price is too low? then just buy. [17:56]
Blitzboom and then we can also have stable bitcoin prices [17:56]
mircea_popescu ya since i opened up for shorts and in the middle orders there's not much dispute there. [17:57]
Blitzboom nanotube: what if i already bought [17:57]
mircea_popescu prices can be whatever someone willing to put the money down wants them to be [17:57]
Blitzboom can i buy calls with bitcoins? [17:57]
mircea_popescu sure ? [17:57]
nanotube yes you can [17:57]
Blitzboom ok cool [17:57]
nanotube see mpoe :) [17:57]
mircea_popescu everything is btc settled, buys and sells. [17:58]
Blitzboom nice [17:58]
Blitzboom derivatives for bitcoins: get rich quick QUICKER [17:58]
mircea_popescu but anyway the make money - lose a ton of money asymetry has nothing to do with options [17:58]
mircea_popescu its just that people perceive LOSS much higher than equal gain [17:58]
Blitzboom well [17:59]
Blitzboom with shorting i don’t have as much potentiaal upside [17:59]
mircea_popescu knotwork : coinflips ? [17:59]
mircea_popescu exactly blitzboom. [17:59]
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Blitzboom thent hat’s not perception, just fact [17:59]
mircea_popescu but it does happen more often. irl ~70-80% of all options expire worthless [17:59]
mircea_popescu with me it's been certainly over 50%, maybe 2/3 [18:00]
BossKom Cool, it's the Majestic 12 guy. [18:00]
knotwork mircea no bias on whether it goes up or down; random pick of short calls or short puts [18:00]
mircea_popescu you could also do a collar knotwork, sell short both [18:00]
mircea_popescu or buy both or wghatever. there's a lot of literature on the topic of options strategy [18:00]
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knotwork I am more long term view, trend I am looking at is it went up to 30, down to 2, hasnt gone back to 2 yet so hold (long) [18:01]
da2ce7 mircea_popescu: what is the diffrence between a sell to open or a sell to close? [18:01]
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Blitzboom when do the options expire? after a month? [18:01]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 sell to open is when you have the contracts you're selliong, thus closing out your position [18:01]
mircea_popescu bah! [18:01]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 sell to CLOSE is when you have the contracts you're selliong, thus closing out your position [18:01]
mircea_popescu sell to open is when you don't have contracts, thus you open a position [18:02]
da2ce7 I'm confused... what one do I want? [18:02]
mircea_popescu i don't imagine you have options already ? so you want sell to open [18:02]
da2ce7 I have the bitcoin, but I want the option to sell them for USD at the 4.0 price... [18:02]
Blitzboom when do the options expire? after a month? y/n [18:03]
da2ce7 at the endo of the month. [18:03]
Blitzboom alright [18:03]
mircea_popescu um. are you trying to go long or short da2ce7 ? [18:03]
knotwork at $2 though I will say to heck with worrying about saving my 77 USD to renew domains in aug/sept, I'll see if nano or keif accepts canadian bank emails and if not move to paypal and buy bitcoins from one of them [18:03]
mircea_popescu blitzboom : last friday of each month. [18:03]
Blitzboom so if i buy them later on i have less time [18:03]
BossKom That's what she said. [18:03]
mircea_popescu blitzboom : they also cost less. yes. [18:03]
Blitzboom ok, makes sense [18:03]
da2ce7 mircea_popescu: long I guess... I just want to have the option of selling BTC into USD for 4.0 at the end of this month. [18:03]
mircea_popescu then you buy puts, not sell. [18:04]
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kakobrekla put = put coins in = 'sell' [18:04]
knotwork and at $30 I'll order some FPGAs or try to sell shares in an ASIC mining op [18:05]
mircea_popescu is it all confusing yet da2ce7 ? [18:05]
MBS anyone want to buy this $20 lowes gc for $15.5 or a hollywood movie money movie voucher, or some amex e-gift cards? [18:05]
da2ce7 very... once I have the terms wired into my brain it will make sence... but just untill then it is confuseing. [18:06]
da2ce7 when i click on 'put bid' [18:06]
da2ce7 then I put in 1000 [18:06]
mircea_popescu ok, let me give you an example. [18:06]
mircea_popescu In order to buy 1000 PUT @4.0 contracts expiring this month at $0.42950151 each please send exactly: 88.51392408BTC [18:07]
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mircea_popescu now, that means : if you pay me 88.5whatever btc now, at any point till the end of the month if the btc goes for less than 4 usd i will pay you the difference [18:07]
copumpkin I thought he said a couple of months from now [18:07]
mircea_popescu for no more than 1000 btcs. [18:07]
copumpkin which is where I got the quote I gave earlier [18:07]
mircea_popescu a5m0, 2 months out ? [18:07]
copumpkin oh, not da2ce7 ? [18:08]
mircea_popescu lol i actually typoed that. [18:08]
mircea_popescu was supposed to be ah [18:08]
da2ce7 :) [18:08]
mircea_popescu figure the ods you end up highlighting someone by typopower. [18:08]
mircea_popescu anyway, on the two months scenario : [18:08]
mircea_popescu In order to buy 1000 PUT @4.0 contracts expiring next month at $1.01439913 each please send exactly: 209.11981508BTC [18:09]
a5m0 mircea_popescu, what do you keep highlighting me for? [18:09]
copumpkin lol [18:09]
a5m0 i can't tell if you're diong it on accident or for some reason [18:09]
mircea_popescu that means if you pay me 209btc today, and the btc/usd goes under 4 at any point till apr 27 [18:09]
mircea_popescu you'll get the diff from me. [18:09]
mircea_popescu sorry a5m0, it was a typo! [18:09]
a5m0 no worries then [18:10]
da2ce7 In order to sell to close 1000 PUT @5.0 contracts expiring this month please send exactly: 0.9... isn't that a bit low? [18:10]
copumpkin that's USD [18:10]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 : sell to close means you have 1000 puts already [18:10]
mircea_popescu and so it's alwasy 0.9x, it's just a signaling ammt that. [18:10]
mircea_popescu what;'s usd copumpkin ? [18:11]
copumpkin oh, I thought 0.9 was but it isn't [18:11]
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mircea_popescu nah, just a token thing. [18:11]
da2ce7 so I would have to pay you the 1031 BTC first... then I can close them at any time? [18:11]
mircea_popescu which 1031 btc ? [18:11]
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da2ce7 In order to sell to open 1000 PUT @5.0 contracts expiring this month please send exactly: 1031.94... [18:12]
mircea_popescu ah. yes, you send the 1031.94etc [18:12]
mircea_popescu then if the person buying your puts wants to close it you're on the hook [18:12]
da2ce7 then I get back 1000 btc, or more if the bitcoin price is less than 5. [18:12]
mircea_popescu you get your money back at the end of the month. [18:12]
mircea_popescu nono. [18:12]
mircea_popescu if you sell to open you're shorting the puts. [18:13]
mircea_popescu that means someone else (me ?) buys them. [18:13]
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Blitzboom wait, where do i see 2 months options? [18:13]
mircea_popescu scroll down ? [18:13]
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Blitzboom oh. yes [18:14]
da2ce7 so neither of the BID options I want... [18:14]
da2ce7 I only want the ASK options. [18:14]
mircea_popescu well you could do short calls, maybe. [18:14]
mircea_popescu let me run a scenario here for you : [18:14]
mircea_popescu In order to sell to open 1000 CALL @4.0 contracts expiring next month please send exactly: 1000.92081000BTC [18:14]
Bigpiggy01Mining Grrr is it just me or is tibanne being ddosed again? [18:15]
nanotube da2ce7: have you reviewed the wikipedia page on options? that should have been the first step :) [18:15]
mircea_popescu now, this means you send me 1k btc, and make a 254.054997938 BTC premium for it. [18:15]
Graet forums seem down Bigpiggy01Mining [18:15]
mircea_popescu meh, actually, i have all this calculated somewhere, let me go find it. [18:15]
chk is it just me or is mtgox being very slow today? [18:16]
Bigpiggy01Mining Gox is loading Uberslow [18:16]
Blitzboom not loading at all [18:16]
chk wonder whats up with it : [18:16]
Blitzboom same with bitcointalk [18:16]
Blitzboom ffs, not again [18:16]
Blitzboom bitcoin has such a shitty infrastructure [18:16]
Bigpiggy01Mining same shit [18:16]
chk no wonder its taking forever to sell @ 4.87 a coin! [18:16]
nanotube the bitcoin network itself is ok :) [18:16]
mircea_popescu btctalk is dead here [18:16]
Bigpiggy01Mining some peeps want to crash it [18:17]
Blitzboom who cares about the network? [18:17]
Blitzboom >:l [18:17]
nanotube heh [18:17]
nanotube otc is still up o/ [18:17]
nanotube thanks freenode :) [18:17]
chk mtgox is up [18:17]
chk it's just slow [18:17]
Blitzboom this is really unfortunate, we need to decouple bitcointalk from mtgox [18:17]
Bigpiggy01Mining ddos then massive asshat selloff [18:17]
mircea_popescu meh i it was in a private discussion. [18:17]
Blitzboom we can’t have both go down at the same time [18:17]
Bigpiggy01Mining UGH [18:17]
pirateat40 otc wins!!! [18:17]
[imsaguy] ddos COMING SOON!!!! [18:18]
bitinstant d [18:18]
* Bigpiggy01Mining pushes the red sell button [18:18]
chk "Your order has been queued for execution" [18:18]
chk only took 2 minutes [18:18]
chk >__< [18:18]
bitinstant Someone has been DOS'sing us all morning as well [18:18]
bitinstant I just spoke to Mark about it 10 minutes ago [18:18]
bitinstant Working on it [18:18]
chk mitigate like a boss? [18:18]
[imsaguy] that was 2 minutes you could have been reapplying tinfoil chk [18:18]
chk [imsaguy] good point [18:19]
[imsaguy] must be the CIA ddos'ing gox [18:19]
chk shall we have sex now [18:19]
[imsaguy] sorry chk, you're not my type. [18:19]
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Blitzboom pirateat40: in the land of the blind, the one-eyed pirate … [18:20]
bitinstant Ok, should be back now [18:20]
Blitzboom well, that was quick [18:20]
chk yeah gox is working fine now also [18:20]
Blitzboom all hail our mtgox central bank [18:20]
chk same servers? [18:20]
chk :P [18:20]
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bitinstant chk, no [18:20]
bitinstant but same attacker [18:21]
[imsaguy] bitinstant: you need a new nick [18:21]
bitinstant fyck [18:21]
bitinstant now hes going after my mail server [18:21]
da2ce7 ok... [18:21]
bitinstant agddd [18:21]
bitinstant I cant stand ppl who think they are l33t [18:21]
bitinstant imsaguy, why ? [18:21]
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[imsaguy] so you don't blend in with the other 4 bit* [18:21]
Blitzboom now it is down again [18:21]
EvanR so i think im at work on cocaine. [18:22]
MBS XD [18:22]
MBS http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/4_amish_charged_with_illegal_a.html [18:22]
MBS EvanR, enjoying the N.O. life huh [18:22]
EvanR lol [18:22]
EvanR :( [18:22]
da2ce7 sombody just bumped the buy button. [18:22]
mircea_popescu Someguy123, da2ce7 : taking the quote from the site In order to sell to open 1000 CALL @4.0 contracts expiring next month please send exactly: 1000.92081000BTC. If you send me the 1k BTC you make a premium of 1.23216674 (current BID on them) * 1000 / 4.85 (btc/usd) = 254.054997938 BTC. This be yours. [18:22]
mircea_popescu Now suppose the btc/usd goes to 6 and the owner executes. You are on the hook for 2 (6-4) * 1000 / 6 (BTC/USD) = 333.3333333BTC. This means you get back 1000.92081000BTC + 254.054997938 BTC - 333.3333333BTC = 921.642474605. Overall you lost like 80 btc. IF the price stays at 4 for the entire interval, you make 1254.x BTC, so a net gain. This is short selling calls for you. [18:23]
Blitzboom da2ce7: how much [18:23]
mircea_popescu and i have no ideea why the fuck i highlighed someguy ;/ [18:23]
Someguy123 mircea_popescu [18:23]
EvanR can someone identify the symptoms so i get a second opinion besides my own [18:23]
Someguy123 =_= [18:23]
mircea_popescu sorry :( [18:23]
Someguy123 EvanR wut? [18:23]
mircea_popescu da2ce7 please tell me you didn't just send a bunch of money w/o emailing first ;/ [18:23]
Graet did you takie cocain EvanR ? [18:23]
EvanR MBS: i was up to this point [18:24]
EvanR Graet: no idea [18:24]
da2ce7 mircea_popescu: I'm not _that_ silly [18:24]
mircea_popescu well SOMEONE did [18:24]
Someguy123 EvanR explain. [18:24]
MBS mircea_popescu, you can send it to me if you dont want it [18:24]
mircea_popescu o god. the horror. [18:24]
Graet sorry cant identify the symptoms then [18:24]
EvanR not my symptons [18:25]
EvanR generic ones [18:25]
Someguy123 EvanR what the fuck are your symptoms? [18:25]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: where do you come from? [18:25]
EvanR well i can see the lcd refreshing [18:25]
pigeons cocaine makes you more of who you really are, especially if who you really are is an asshole [18:25]
EvanR im drinking two cups of tea at a time [18:25]
Graet lol [18:25]
mircea_popescu blitzboom romania [18:26]
EvanR and im talking really fast to people [18:26]
EvanR and my heart is racing [18:26]
Blitzboom cool, i asked because i never heard of that name [18:26]
mircea_popescu evanr did you have to o many lattes ? [18:26]
Someguy123 EvanR thats caffeine overdose symptoms [18:26]
Someguy123 =_= [18:26]
da2ce7 Blitzboom: 1000 btc. [18:26]
Someguy123 how many mg of caffiene have you ingested today? [18:26]
EvanR SomeoneWeirdzzzz: this has been for the last 6 hours [18:26]
Blitzboom da2ce7: BUY BUY BUY? [18:26]
chk question - is there any way to see a history of mtgox USD codes youve generated with your account? [18:26]
da2ce7 Blitzboom: no, an option silly. [18:26]
Someguy123 a 330ml redbull/related energy dring is 75mg. there's 30mg per 100ml on avg in energy drinks [18:26]
Someguy123 300mg is the average OD for caffeine [18:26]
EvanR no i do a lot of caffeine, this is not that [18:27]
Blitzboom da2ce7: nah, the someone just pushed the buy [18:27]
EvanR its caffeine? [18:27]
Someguy123 EvanR yes, it can be [18:27]
Someguy123 EvanR are you on any other drugs? [18:27]
EvanR im not taking any medcine [18:27]
Someguy123 if you're on any other drugs, it could de-stablize your bodies resistance from caffeine [18:27]
Someguy123 which can cause caffeine to send you nuts [18:27]
EvanR i havent had any caffeine from normal sources this is herbal tea [18:27]
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EvanR maybe they gave me caffeine [18:28]
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EvanR do people snort caffeine? [18:28]
Someguy123 EvanR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ginsengtea.JPG [18:28]
Someguy123 thats your issue [18:28]
Someguy123 apparantly putting large amounts of ginseng into herbal tea is common [18:28]
Someguy123 ginseng is basically caffeine on steroids. [18:28]
Someguy123 so taking a shitload of ginseng is NOTHING compared to just caffeine [18:29]
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Someguy123 ginseng is in a lot of energy drings too, but not in cheap ones [18:29]
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EvanR i just started drinking the tea [18:29]
MBS i REALLY REALLY hate this professor [18:29]
EvanR ive been like this since 4 [18:29]
Someguy123 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginseng#Side_effects [18:29]
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Someguy123 EvanR ^ [18:30]
MBS have to turn in this project progress report tonight [18:30]
BTCHero EvanR if your heart is racing and you can't see right.... maybe consider going to the hospital [18:30]
MBS he sucks at emailing so we didnt even get template til thursday [18:30]
Someguy123 >decreased sensitivity and reaction to light [18:30]
EvanR maybe its ginseng [18:30]
Someguy123 EvanR ^ [18:30]
MBS for part of it there is "See chap 3 slides 10-20" [18:30]
Someguy123 thats one of the symptons of overdosing [18:30]
Someguy123 on ginseng [18:30]
MBS there is no chapter 3 powerpoint file on moodle [18:30]
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EvanR the powder was gray [18:30]
Someguy123 EvanR grey? [18:31]
EvanR not white [18:31]
Someguy123 ginseng is like, orangy [18:31]
Someguy123 so... [18:31]
EvanR meh [18:31]
BTCHero wait you snorted something you don't know what it was? [18:31]
EvanR i thought i did, i mean [18:31]
Someguy123 EvanR caffeine is white, it looks just like cocaine [18:31]
Someguy123 snorting it wouldn't have any effects though [18:31]
EvanR but this is not what i ordered! [18:31]
EvanR lol [18:31]
Someguy123 might make you sick, but thats about it [18:31]
BTCHero well cocaine certainly doesn't last for 6 hours [18:31]
Someguy123 EvanR a little note... if you can SEE the caffeine, even a grain of it [18:31]
MBS lol i remember when i had like a gram of caffiene once [18:31]
Someguy123 it's too much? [18:31]
EvanR BTCHero: ah [18:32]
MBS was....interesting [18:32]
EvanR ok [18:32]
MBS or maybe it was 1.5g [18:32]
Someguy123 MBS yeah, 300mg is the limit usually [18:32]
Someguy123 so thats a bad idea... [18:32]
EvanR MBS: and you lived? [18:32]
MBS oh it takes alot to kill you [18:32]
MBS i think ld50 is like 10g or something [18:32]
Someguy123 MBS fuck no it doesn't [18:32]
BTCHero Cocaines effects wear off after about 1 hour or so I would say [18:32]
EvanR well i think none of us know wtf it was at this point, oh well [18:32]
Someguy123 500mg is the LD50 mbs [18:32]
Someguy123 it depends on your sensitivity to it [18:32]
BTCHero based on hearing things from others... not personal experience of course as I would never admit to that [18:33]
Someguy123 if you're desensitized like me, 300mg won't do shit to you. [18:33]
Mad7Scientist do you get more resistant to it after you start using it? [18:33]
MBS nah [18:33]
Mad7Scientist so the LD50 goes up [18:33]
MBS 192mg/kg in rats [18:33]
MBS so thats...alot [18:33]
helo perhaps he did die, and we are all just creations inside his decaying brain? [18:33]
MBS LD50 for me would be like 21g [18:33]
Someguy123 EvanR decreased sensitivity and reaction to light [18:33]
Someguy123 oops [18:33]
Someguy123 EvanR http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Ginsengtea.JPG [18:33]
Mad7Scientist rats are very tolerant to poisons [18:34]
EvanR no i see normally, except for the lcd [18:34]
BTCHero EvanR maybe it is some powder cut with a small amount of meth? [18:34]
EvanR meth? [18:34]
EvanR shit [18:34]
EvanR lol [18:34]
MBS no i see normally, except for the lsd [18:34]
EvanR lol [18:35]
BTCHero I don't know but it is supposed to last a long time [18:35]
BTCHero and make your heart race [18:35]
BTCHero never tried it though [18:35]
MBS EvanR, does your stomach feel like shit? [18:35]
EvanR no not really [18:35]
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Someguy123 EvanR http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Fishscale.JPG [18:36]
Someguy123 did it look like that? [18:36]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: can you walk me through one example too? i want to understand how much i would profit in case i was right [18:36]
EvanR Someguy123: sort of [18:36]
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Blitzboom let’s say i want to buy $5 calls [18:37]
EvanR it wasnt fine [18:37]
Someguy123 EvanR, well you recieved top quality cocaine then [18:37]
Someguy123 congrats. [18:37]
Blitzboom for march [18:37]
EvanR >_> [18:37]
Blitzboom and the price rises to 8 [18:37]
BTCHero no way cocaine is lasting 6 hours for him [18:37]
EvanR its 1137 [18:37]
EvanR i got this at like 4 [18:37]
Someguy123 EvanR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishscale_cocaine [18:37]
BossKom Heh, so cocaine. [18:38]
EvanR -_- [18:38]
EvanR make it stop [18:38]
[imsaguy] [2012/03/12 11:38:28] <@MagicalTux> there's no ddos [18:38]
[imsaguy] so much for that [18:39]
pirateat40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCOx6_okeho [18:39]
[imsaguy] straight from the horses mouth [18:39]
Someguy123 EvanR go to a detox center [18:39]
BTCHero ;;t [18:39]
gribble Loveline - cocaine - YouTube [18:39]
EvanR also ive never done anything like that [18:39]
EvanR maybe thats why its lasting sxo long [18:39]
phraust heh. [18:40]
EvanR i can tell you this i aint going back to whatever that was [18:40]
mircea_popescu Blitzboom : gladly. shoot. [18:40]
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EvanR i did mention to a guy bitcoins, and he said that hes afraid to get into them because he would feel inclined to use them for drugs [18:40]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: say i want to buy 1k calls for march at $5 [18:41]
chk stupid reason [18:41]
Someguy123 EvanR another thing... if it was cocaine, it could've been a sedative in the tea [18:41]
chk you can buy drugs anywhere [18:41]
chk without bitcoins [18:41]
chk :P [18:41]
Someguy123 it's slowing the effects of cocaine, [18:41]
EvanR Someguy123: no, im drinking tea now [18:41]
a5m0 selling 1 server in tower case with 2x 2.8ghz xeons 8gb ecc ram 160gb sata drive dvd drive; 5 yubikeys new in black or white; 1 sapphire 5970 [18:41]
EvanR shit what [18:41]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: how much do i pay? [18:41]
Blitzboom 0.83842006*1000? [18:41]
EvanR chk: ... yeah [18:42]
chk :P [18:42]
mircea_popescu blitzboom : 172.70325110 btc. [18:42]
chk dont be mad babe [18:42]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: ok, so i have to divide that by the USD price first [18:42]
mircea_popescu if the price makes it to 10 you get 500 BTC forr them. [18:42]
Mad7Scientist santorum! [18:42]
* Raccoon explodes into a frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter. [18:42]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: how do i calculate how much i can get if i exercise higher? [18:43]
Mad7Scientist all this drug talk [18:43]
EvanR Raccoon: not funny since we are cleaning up such shit at a house [18:43]
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BTCHero cocaine has a 1 hour half life... you would only have like 0.015625% of it still [18:43]
EvanR they just let their dog 'roam free' in the hallway [18:43]
EvanR BTCHero: then wtf [18:43]
BTCHero I know, thats what im saying [18:43]
BTCHero not cocaine [18:43]
[imsaguy] BTCHero: did you buy rg food last night? [18:43]
BTCHero no [18:43]
Mad7Scientist the dog shouldn't have santorum ... [18:43]
pigeons crank [18:43]
[imsaguy] kk [18:43]
Raccoon EvanR: at least you're not changing hotel sheets on Santorum's campaign trail :) [18:43]
EvanR it turns into santorum once you try to clean it up with soap [18:43]
mircea_popescu blitzboom : (current price - strike price) / current price. [18:43]
EvanR Raccoon: aaaaaaaaarg i cant handle politics right now [18:44]
mircea_popescu so (10-5)/10 = .5 per contract, or 500 for 1k contracts. [18:44]
Raccoon lol [18:44]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: thanks [18:44]
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Mad7Scientist I hope EvanR doesn't pull a Romney [18:44]
Mad7Scientist (see ;;ud Romney) [18:44]
mircea_popescu no problam. [18:44]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: sounds good [18:44]
EvanR meaning [18:44]
[imsaguy] http://spreadingromney.com [18:44]
Raccoon what about a slimy mixture of blood and semen that smells like a fishery [18:44]
EvanR im not checking this out atm [18:44]
[imsaguy] Raccoon: that's just last night's dinner [18:45]
Raccoon hah [18:45]
Joric does 'obama' mean something aswell [18:45]
Mad7Scientist ;;ud Obama [18:46]
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gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=obama | Obama. The Messiah for brain-dead Democrats. No matter what he says, no ... Obama. Has no real experience, because most of his time as "senator" was spent ... [18:46]
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Blitzboom mircea_popescu: so if i do the same for 5.5 i will not break even? [18:46]
Blitzboom as i would get 91 BTC for 1k [18:46]
Mad7Scientist I think Obama is bisexual [18:46]
Mad7Scientist He was part of some men's club in Chicago [18:47]
Mad7Scientist But he is a Democrat so it doesn't hurt his career at all [18:47]
Joric biracial [18:47]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: meaning i would need a price of at least 6.5 to turn a profit this month [18:48]
mircea_popescu blitzboom : buy calls at 5.5, if price goes to 7 you make 1.5$ / 7 = .214etc BTC per. price goes to 14.5 you make 9$/14.5 = .62 each etc [18:48]
Blitzboom correct me if i’m wrong [18:48]
mircea_popescu lesee that. [18:48]
Mad7Scientist I wonder if there could be a nested channel IRC system [18:48]
mircea_popescu In order to buy 100 CALL @5.5 contracts expiring this month at $0.60564582 each please send exactly: 12.48754111. So basically you need like 6.2-6.3 i'd say [18:49]
Mad7Scientist when I could create a channel under #bitcoin-otc for talking politics [18:49]
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Mad7Scientist and another for just trading [18:49]
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Mad7Scientist and people in the root channel could see chat from both channels [18:49]
Blitzboom ok [18:49]
Joric mircea_popescu, looks like price won't go up at all [18:49]
Mad7Scientist but people in the trading channel could not see chat from the politics channel [18:49]
mircea_popescu Joric who knows these things... [18:49]
naem can anyone sell me 1.5 btc for paypal [18:50]
smickles heh, so it's not technically an "ETF" [18:50]
Mad7Scientist naem, $7.75 [18:51]
Mad7Scientist naem, paypal@nomad.ignorelist.com PP > personal > payment owed don't mention BTC on PP [18:51]
mircea_popescu ooo so a first on MPOE : now I have a - volume! [18:52]
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nanotube Mad7Scientist: simpler solution: two separate channels, and people who want to see both, can - gasp - be in two channels! :) [18:54]
mircea_popescu lolz [18:54]
smickles negative volume? [18:54]
smickles ha [18:55]
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BossKom "Beware the FRAUDSTERS" [18:55]
BossKom That sounds like a Russian wrote it. [18:55]
BossKom "Beware of FRAUDSTERS" is what you want. [18:55]
nanotube it's perfectly cromulent english. [18:55]
EvanR talk about drugs all you want, just no politics [18:56]
weex Here be fraudsters. [18:56]
BossKom EvanR, let me in. [18:56]
Graet "Beware of the FRAUDSTERS" [18:56]
EvanR BossKom: let yourself in next time, use -I [18:56]
MBS EvanR, is it raining bad over there too? [18:56]
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EvanR MBS: it rained really bad this morning [18:56]
MBS oh look at this, it stopped raining right here...for now [18:56]
MBS its supposted to rain all week though [18:57]
EvanR fuck that [18:57]
MBS which sucks cuz some roads were already flooding [18:57]
nanotube BossKom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ides_of_March (search for beware). if it's good enough for shakespeare, it's good enough for me. [18:57]
EvanR MBS: and i gotta move furniture [18:57]
smickles "here ther be monsters" [18:57]
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Blitzboom because we still write in shakespearian english amirite [18:57]
nanotube forsooth, it is so, my good Blitzboom :) [18:57]
BossKom It would be interesting. [18:58]
Graet was shakespeare real tho, or ... [18:58]
Graet hmm mkissed that doco, was on tv the other day [18:58]
EvanR the man? [18:58]
BossKom Shakespeare is real in our hearts. [18:58]
Graet yes [18:58]
BossKom As for his photograph... [18:58]
EvanR >_> [18:58]
BossKom That's probably not him. [18:58]
BossKom I mean, portrait. [18:58]
EvanR look, all history before last thursday is just unverifiable fiction, so whats the diff [18:58]
BossKom Anything on the internet is verifiable. Textbooks are another story... [18:59]
[imsaguy] ugh [18:59]
BossKom Public school propaganda ftw. [18:59]
EvanR lol [18:59]
EvanR just call it propaganda school [18:59]
[imsaguy] textbooks are just as verifiable as the internet [18:59]
vragnaroda “Beware the fraudsters” is, indeed, perfectly cromulent. [18:59]
BossKom Says the school board. [18:59]
[imsaguy] you're a twit if you think you can verify information on the internet but no in textbooks. [19:00]
[imsaguy] not* [19:00]
BossKom imsaguy: I can verify a textbook using the internet. [19:00]
Blitzboom BossKom: yo atlas [19:00]
BossKom Yo, Bob Page. [19:00]
vragnaroda That claim does seem bizarre. [19:00]
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EvanR who verifies the verifier [19:00]
BossKom who watches the watchman [19:00]
BossKom ALIENS [19:01]
EvanR i watch them both [19:01]
[imsaguy] and you can verify the internet with textbooks [19:01]
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[imsaguy] do, the difference between internet and textbooks is the media [19:01]
BossKom I would not use a textbook as a primary source, imsaguy. [19:01]
EvanR this is tedious, i need lunch now [19:01]
BossKom Primary sources are far different than a textbook. [19:01]
[imsaguy] lol [19:01]
[imsaguy] so is the internet [19:01]
BossKom The internet contains primary sources. [19:02]
[imsaguy] the internet isn't a giant primary source [19:02]
BossKom Sure it is. [19:02]
[imsaguy] so do some textbooks [19:02]
[imsaguy] textbooks can contain primary cources no different than the itnernet [19:02]
[imsaguy] you bad a bogus claim, its ok to cop to it [19:02]
BossKom Look, when I see Herbet Hoover called a conservative, there's a problem. [19:02]
[imsaguy] made* [19:02]
[imsaguy] you think you don't see it on the internet too? [19:02]
mircea_popescu ya smickles. negative! [19:03]
[imsaguy] your claim that textbooks aren't verifiable is factually wrong. [19:03]
vragnaroda I'm not saying he was but your argument is a classical No True Scotsman. [19:03]
* copumpkin watches all the watchmen [19:03]
BossKom What I mean to say is that textbooks can't be failed. [19:03]
mircea_popescu o hey, textbooks weren't a topic here yet. [19:03]
Blitzboom lol [19:03]
BossKom A website can be downgraded into oblivion. [19:03]
Blitzboom BossKom: why not just atlas [19:03]
[imsaguy] a textbook is just a collection of printed internet pages [19:03]
mircea_popescu failed aka what ? falsified ? [19:03]
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vragnaroda ‘Conservative’ is a cultural self-identification and has little to nothing to do with actual policy preferences. [19:03]
[imsaguy] you realize that [19:03]
Blitzboom why switch nicks all the time [19:03]
BossKom A textbook remains to suck and used by children. [19:04]
[imsaguy] Blitzboom: because asshat was taken. [19:04]
vragnaroda lol [19:04]
mircea_popescu try hawtass [imsaguy] [19:04]
BossKom All I am saying is that textbooks are a bad medium to teach from. [19:04]
BossKom They can't adapt. [19:04]
MBS EvanR, apparently its flooding pretty bad north of I-10 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/431287_10150603082051239_54423423438_92342342_1521794423_n.jpg [19:04]
Blitzboom no, they are not [19:04]
vragnaroda They do adapt. [19:04]
mircea_popescu the ideea is to adapt the kids to the book [19:04]
BossKom They are centrally controlled. [19:04]
mircea_popescu not the other way around. [19:04]
BossKom That's terrible. [19:05]
Blitzboom tinfoilhat.jpg [19:05]
mircea_popescu that's what education is [19:05]
BossKom Students should be served. [19:05]
[imsaguy] thats a completely different statement than "the internet is more verifiable than textbooks" [19:05]
vragnaroda Most of them suck but that's because teachers suck. [19:05]
mircea_popescu fucking melding the despicable troglodyte hordes into some semblance of proper form. [19:05]
BossKom The students shouldn't have to serve the material. [19:05]
Blitzboom fuck centralization [19:05]
Blitzboom we should all learn by ourselves [19:05]
mircea_popescu yes they should bosskom. [19:05]
BossKom If you're a dictator. [19:05]
EvanR also fuck this 'the teacher sucks so i refuse to learn anything' [19:05]
BossKom A tyrant. [19:05]
mircea_popescu that is the very point of culture. [19:05]
BossKom An authoritarian. [19:05]
mircea_popescu teaching people to serve the material. [19:05]
* copumpkin is a tyrant [19:05]
EvanR 'i.e. you suck' [19:05]
copumpkin and all of the above [19:05]
BossKom Fuck culture. [19:06]
mircea_popescu i just own slaves. which has nothing to do with it. [19:06]
[imsaguy] copumpkin: don't waste your precious florida time on this crap [19:06]
copumpkin lol [19:06]
Blitzboom if you don’t like life, why not an hero [19:06]
EvanR BossKom: fucking anything is auto culture [19:06]
* copumpkin goes to play with a beautiful yellow dog [19:06]
vragnaroda So, basically, BossKom's complaint is his school didn't give him an iPad. [19:06]
[imsaguy] hers? [19:06]
Blitzboom vragnaroda: lold [19:06]
copumpkin yeah [19:06]
BossKom Life =/= conformity [19:06]
[imsaguy] or is that a bad reference to her? [19:06]
[imsaguy] :-x [19:06]
EvanR wtf [19:06]
Blitzboom i am so not conform to the conformists. fuck them! [19:06]
mircea_popescu lmao [19:06]
mircea_popescu i loved that sp episode. [19:06]
mircea_popescu ;;ident bosskom [19:07]
gribble Nick 'bosskom', with hostmask 'BossKom!4ac0a0db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.192.160.219', is not identified. [19:07]
bitcoinTrader ;;seen ocminer [19:07]
mircea_popescu gah, why do nontraders even get to sprout their anathemastic nonsenses in our chan! [19:07]
BossKom I trade. I just don't keep myself identified. [19:07]
Blitzboom i thought atlas trades? [19:07]
mircea_popescu omg conform to teh identity! [19:08]
Blitzboom OTC is centralized :O [19:08]
EvanR every needs to be individualist, so we all dress like hipsters! [19:08]
Blitzboom one book, one database [19:08]
Blitzboom one führer [19:08]
Blitzboom all heil the nanotube [19:08]
mircea_popescu teh tubufuhrer ? [19:08]
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BossKom Apparently i make the hipsters look mainstream. [19:09]
EvanR uhm they are [19:09]
EvanR you dont need to help [19:09]
Blitzboom kony2012 [19:09]
EvanR what [19:09]
BossKom I swear to god, if Obama sends anymore troops to Uganda.... [19:10]
Blitzboom what will you do [19:10]
EvanR no one even knows about uganda right now [19:10]
BossKom Leave. [19:10]
Blitzboom complain about centralization? [19:10]
Blitzboom where to? [19:10]
BossKom Cayman Islands or the Virgin Islands [19:10]
EvanR if you dont like it you can leave <- fuck this [19:10]
vragnaroda lol [19:10]
amazingrando need $78 in mp or pp. paying in btc [19:10]
BossKom It costs $450 to renounce your citizenship now and to stop paying US taxes. [19:11]
BossKom You can't even leave if you don't like it without a price. [19:11]
Blitzboom too bad they don’t take bitcoins [19:11]
BossKom If you have Bitcoins, you don't even need to pay taxes. You're already offshore. [19:11]
BossKom Launder through silkroad and obscure. [19:12]
EvanR BossKom: and how long waiting for the bureaucracy to roll into gear [19:12]
EvanR dude was telling me milktoad is 'not secure anymore' lol [19:12]
BossKom EvanR: They make you come back in a week. They don't like people renouncing. [19:12]
Blitzboom they [19:12]
Blitzboom the bilderbergers [19:12]
EvanR the walton family! [19:13]
BossKom IRS/Embassy/US establishment [19:13]
vragnaroda lol [19:13]
EvanR steal from the rich give to the poor [19:13]
mcorlett Next week on "Financial advice by Atlas": [19:13]
vragnaroda The Silk Road's a DEA honeypot. [19:13]
mircea_popescu who is atlas ? [19:13]
EvanR BossKom is atlas but hes being a douche so he is using an alternate nick [19:13]
BossKom Bioshock reference? [19:13]
knotwork where does one find silk road's onion address? [19:13]
EvanR knotwork: not in this channel [19:13]
EvanR go away [19:14]
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BossKom knotwork: Google is your friend. [19:14]
Blitzboom knotwork: on wikipedia [19:14]
amazingrando need $78 in moneypack or paypal. paying in btc [19:14]
Blitzboom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace) [19:14]
Blitzboom here you go [19:14]
BossKom I have a feeling Blitzboom played Deus Ex wrong. [19:14]
Blitzboom BossKom: elaborate [19:14]
BossKom The goal wasn't to join the illuminati, Blitzboom. [19:14]
jolientes so dont wanna trade now just wanna get some infos. is it possible to get some bitcoins with paysafecards in this channel? [19:15]
Blitzboom it was one possible ending [19:15]
Blitzboom i liked the helios one [19:15]
EvanR lol join the illuminati [19:15]
BossKom I don't mind helios. The Omar could still coexist. [19:15]
Blitzboom you think i played a videogame wrong because i didn’t take the conspiracy theories seriously? [19:15]
BossKom I liked the Omar. [19:15]
EvanR jolientes: yes [19:15]
copumpkin Omar comin' yo [19:16]
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jolientes thanks evanr [19:16]
BossKom You seem to trust things... Blitzboom. [19:16]
Blitzboom yeah, i trust peopl [19:16]
Blitzboom e [19:16]
jolientes how is the exchange course? [19:16]
jolientes in € [19:16]
Blitzboom pretty crazy, isn’t it [19:16]
EvanR jolientes: you say im buying btc with a paysafe card, bitches [19:16]
EvanR and wait [19:16]
BossKom I expect anything from anyone. [19:16]
kakobrekla jolientes: #bitcoin-otc-eu [19:17]
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neofutur Joric: http://bitcoin.gw.gd/bitcoin_simple_php_tools/tickers/ticker_eur_btc.php [19:17]
EvanR BossKom: i invited you again, put your name in +I [19:17]
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jolientes thanks guys [19:17]
Joric ne0futur, euros! [19:17]
Blitzboom kakobrekla: wtf [19:18]
Blitzboom why do we have to throw out euros? [19:18]
EvanR bitcoins are backed by usd and you know it [19:18]
EvanR unfortunately [19:18]
neofutur shortened link : http://gw.gd/btceur [19:18]
kakobrekla Blitzboom? [19:18]
BossKom ...and USD is backed by dead brown people. [19:18]
BossKom The circle of life. [19:18]
Blitzboom why is this channel american by default? [19:18]
kakobrekla the paysafe card related service is in the topic of #bitcoin-otc-eu [19:18]
EvanR BossKom: :| [19:19]
Blitzboom ok [19:19]
BossKom EvanR: USA USA USA USA [19:19]
BossKom Is that better? [19:19]
EvanR Blitzboom: because america is the default culture of the world [19:19]
Blitzboom i just hate the us centrism [19:19]
vragnaroda Blitzboom: Uh, because we're the only ones that can count. [19:19]
Blitzboom vragnaroda: imperial system? [19:19]
neofutur Joric: also works with usd : http://gw.gd/btcusd [19:19]
Blitzboom aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [19:19]
Blitzboom fuck amurrrica [19:19]
vragnaroda Blitzboom: That's a blatant lie. The United States has never used the Imperial system. [19:19]
Blitzboom i’d rather have a chinese globalized world [19:20]
BossKom That would get boring fast. [19:20]
EvanR theres america the continent, america the state, and america the people [19:20]
EvanR which one of these things does not belong [19:20]
vragnaroda That was something a bunch of crackheads came up with in 1824 because they hadn't yet standardized measures and wanted to be different. [19:20]
BossKom There is no American people. [19:20]
EvanR the people here are the american people [19:20]
BossKom Too many cultures. [19:20]
BossKom Too many regions. [19:21]
vragnaroda EvanR: Them's fighting words. [19:21]
Blitzboom EvanR: the state [19:21]
EvanR Blitzboom: good job [19:21]
BossKom "the american people" is a fiction [19:21]
EvanR you got a smiley sticker! [19:21]
BossKom While "the texan people" or "the new york people" makes more sense. [19:21]
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Blitzboom atlas is turning nazi [19:21]
BossKom "the american people": that's just silly [19:21]
EvanR when you meet a girl and her parents are from ghana, but born and raised here in 21st century, shes american [19:21]
Blitzboom no it’s not [19:22]
Blitzboom lrn2 group cohesion [19:22]
BossKom group cohesion is for sheep [19:22]
Blitzboom you aren’t even a sheep [19:22]
EvanR obviously we are just more diverse than norway [19:22]
vragnaroda BossKom: Fuck you. “New York people” doesn't make any sense at all. [19:22]
Blitzboom you are an insect [19:22]
EvanR vragnaroda agreed [19:22]
BossKom nomnomnomnomnomnomnomnom [19:22]
BossKom You're right. [19:22]
BossKom Too many people in New York. [19:22]
BossKom We should seperate it into boroughs [19:22]
Blitzboom the globalists want to reduce world population anyway [19:23]
Blitzboom so why object to them? [19:23]
BossKom Because I think dumb people have value. [19:23]
Blitzboom they have noble goals [19:23]
vragnaroda BossKom: Fuck you, you ignorant little shit. There's a lot more to NY than NYC. [19:23]
BossKom There's no need to be hostile. [19:23]
vragnaroda NYC is a sewer and should just disappear. [19:23]
EvanR are globalists the same as the environmentalists? [19:23]
Blitzboom no [19:23]
EvanR its about loving life [19:24]
Blitzboom the environmentalists are just instrumented by the globalists [19:24]
Blitzboom everything and everyone is, really [19:24]
Blitzboom even atlas serves them [19:24]
EvanR life is beautiful, but if you dont check yourself you will lose yourself [19:24]
BossKom I don't even think globalists are a single group. [19:24]
vragnaroda EvanR: No, one of those groups is about conserving resources and the other is about scaring people. [19:24]
Blitzboom BossKom: then they are decentralized and in competition [19:24]
Blitzboom you can compete too [19:24]
dirkdizzler hi vragnaroda [19:24]
BossKom I don't want to control people. [19:24]
EvanR environmentalists not only want to conserve, they want to force you to do it at gunpoint [19:24]
vragnaroda 안녕하세요, BossKom. [19:24]
vragnaroda I didn't mean to hilight you there, BossKom. [19:25]
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BossKom I just want to liberate the individual as far as possible -- by even giving them the choice to have a master they like. [19:25]
vragnaroda EvanR: In my comparison, the environmentalists are the ones that want to scare everyone. [19:25]
copumpkin I choose mircea_popescu as my master [19:25]
mircea_popescu lol? [19:25]
dirkdizzler i choose the lady [19:26]
EvanR BossKom: not a master, trade is mutually beneficial [19:26]
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BossKom Kinky [19:26]
EvanR its cooperative [19:26]
EvanR not subjugative [19:26]
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EvanR vragnaroda: oh [19:26]
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vragnaroda copumpkin: That's probably a good choice. I'm sure he has all sorts of toys hidden away in some Transylvanian dungeon to help you with your vampire fetish. [19:26]
BossKom EvanR: Social-anarchists seem to disagree. [19:26]
BossKom They find the responsbility of having to feed yourself as slavery. [19:26]
BossKom Which is silly. [19:26]
BossKom responsibility* [19:26]
* EvanR deletes social from allowed political jargon because it sounds so nice and fruity when its retarded [19:26]
Blitzboom BossKom: as i said, if you aren’t even on a sheep’s level, how can you think about liberating them? [19:27]
BossKom Blitzboom: I don't. I accept them. [19:27]
Blitzboom it’s like waging war although your own country is fucked up [19:27]
* copumpkin would that you use the subjunctive when subjugating people [19:27]
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BossKom I have never defined myself by my country. [19:27]
* copumpkin has no country [19:27]
* copumpkin is a pumpkin [19:27]
BossKom Yeah, where's the stateless guy? [19:28]
BossKom I want to be like him. [19:28]
Blitzboom if you have no group cohesion, you simply do not exist [19:28]
BiTn00b having to feed yourself is slavery? [19:28]
copumpkin really? I'd imagine actually having no citizenship is a real pain in the ass [19:28]
BossKom Blitzboom: That's a dangerous precedent. [19:28]
EvanR i define my accept by country because, theres a generic american accent, which i have [19:28]
Blitzboom it’s true [19:28]
BossKom Elaborate. [19:28]
* Graet doesnt exist [19:28]
EvanR accent [19:28]
Blitzboom humans have been social animals forever [19:28]
EvanR and some canadians [19:28]
copumpkin EvanR: I had an american accent long before I was "american" [19:28]
BossKom Humans evolve, Blitzboom. [19:28]
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BossKom They adapt, they mutate. [19:29]
Blitzboom devolve in your case [19:29]
EvanR copumpkin: because you wanted die hard in english too many times? [19:29]
BossKom That's subjective. [19:29]
EvanR watched [19:29]
BossKom I am very happy. [19:29]
copumpkin EvanR: nah, not sure where it came from [19:29]
Blitzboom q.e.d. [19:29]
EvanR american TV [19:29]
copumpkin nah, didn't watch american TV in english [19:29]
vragnaroda [17:28] <+ EvanR> | i define my accept by country because, theres a generic american accent, which i have <-- No, there isn't. [19:29]
Metabank WTS 100 mtgox usd @ pp [19:30]
Blitzboom BossKom: and no, humans do not evolve in 10k years [19:30]
mircea_popescu he prolly means midwestern [19:30]
Blitzboom their psychology is still pretty much the same [19:30]
BossKom Blitzboom: Culture does change, however. [19:30]
Blitzboom sure, but it is completely interchangeable [19:31]
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BossKom Blitzboom: I bet you love how California code enforcement shuts down people that live in the desert self-sufficiently, huh? [19:31]
BossKom They just don't exist, amiright? [19:31]
mircea_popescu live in the desert self sufficiently ? by planting cacti ? [19:31]
Blitzboom i don’t know about that [19:31]
Blitzboom what is "shut down" [19:31]
BossKom Kick then out of their houses for not having the amenities their code entails. [19:31]
BossKom them* [19:32]
BossKom Not enough square footage, etc. [19:32]
Blitzboom why would i approve of ridiculous laws [19:32]
Blitzboom if the state thought they didn’t exist, it would ignore them [19:32]
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BossKom I wish that was the case. [19:32]
BiTn00b my favorite, is how some states make it illegal to collect rain water for future use in the garden [19:33]
BossKom That doesn't stop me from filling my rain barrels. I am probably in violation of so many water laws that it isn't funny. [19:33]
vragnaroda BossKom: No one lives “self-sufficiently.” [19:34]
Blitzboom NOONE GUNNA TAKE MAH RAIN FROM ME [19:34]
BiTn00b yeah, I have a few violations myself [19:34]
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[imsaguy] wtf [19:34]
BiTn00b vragnaroda, yes... there are people who do just that [19:34]
[imsaguy] seriously, this should go to #bitcoin-politics [19:34]
Blitzboom agree with vragnaroda [19:34]
vragnaroda BiTn00b: No, there aren't. [19:34]
Blitzboom and i even think he is a libertarian [19:34]
BiTn00b yes, there are. have been throughout all of human history [19:34]
vragnaroda Blitzboom: By some definitions, yes. [19:34]
vragnaroda BiTn00b: Identify one. [19:34]
BossKom Nobody can live self-sufficiently if you take it far enough... I mean, we couldn't be alive without our mothers. [19:35]
BossKom In the end, it's a pointless argument. [19:35]
BiTn00b anyone who has a home/farm/whatever that brings in more resources (including money) that goes out [19:35]
Blitzboom no it’s not [19:35]
Blitzboom BiTn00b: how did he acquire all those resources? [19:35]
Blitzboom all by himself? [19:35]
BossKom Because some people don't pay their fair share in taxes, Blitzboom? [19:35]
BiTn00b have enough land, water, and other natural resources, and you can live without outside employement [19:35]
vragnaroda BiTn00b: OK, if you redefine the terms, sure, it can be true, but we're speaking English here. :P [19:35]
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BiTn00b vragnaroda: nobody starts out being self sufficient, plenty of people end up there [19:36]
Blitzboom yes exactly [19:36]
Blitzboom without others it wouldn’t be possible [19:36]
vragnaroda BiTn00b: That is so idiotic I don't even know where to start. [19:36]
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BiTn00b well, you can start by defining a context for your argument. [19:37]
BossKom All I am against is indefinite slavery to the people "we owe our existence". [19:37]
[imsaguy] he just did define one.. in #bitcoin-politics [19:37]
mircea_popescu you're just against anyone who might tell you you're a pompous ass [19:37]
mircea_popescu and put you to work. [19:37]
Blitzboom [imsaguy]: nic try [19:37]
mircea_popescu that's about all. [19:37]
BiTn00b channel != context [19:37]
BossKom I am not paying an estate tax. [19:37]
Blitzboom mircea_popescu: you have understood atlas [19:38]
mircea_popescu the laziness as independence argument has been brought since at least 200 bc. [19:38]
vragnaroda BiTn00b: Please use standard notation. [19:38]
mircea_popescu it's about as strong as it ever was. turd level. [19:38]
BossKom mircea_popescu: Yes, nobody puts me to work. I put myself to work. [19:38]
BossKom It's never the former. [19:38]
mircea_popescu novusordo, you don't. [19:38]
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Blitzboom BossKom: nope [19:39]
mircea_popescu you just sit around and pontificate. go do something useful. [19:39]
mircea_popescu srsly. [19:39]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Crack that whip. [19:39]
BossKom You don't know that. [19:39]
mircea_popescu jesus why the fuck am i highlighting people ?! [19:39]
Blitzboom you have needs like any other human [19:39]
mircea_popescu yes bosskom, i do know that. [19:39]
[imsaguy] mircea_popescu: why not? [19:39]
Blitzboom and are controlled by them [19:39]
Blitzboom umadbro [19:39]
mircea_popescu well cause i dun intend to [imsaguy] [19:39]
novusordo mircea_popescu: huh? [19:39]
mircea_popescu sorry man l;/ [19:39]
copumpkin novusordo: mircea_popescu likes annoying people [19:39]
BossKom Blitzboom: They are my needs and I choose to fulfill them. I can die anytime I please. I am not entitled to a living. [19:39]
mircea_popescu you're the third one today i accidentally highlighty. [19:39]
[imsaguy] mircea_popescu, Bon-Bon: but its fun to randomly highlight [19:39]
mircea_popescu :( [19:40]
[imsaguy] Bosma: don't you agree? [19:40]
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Blitzboom i doubt you could kill yourself if you wished [19:40]
copumpkin ;;action $randomNick [19:40]
copumpkin how did that work [19:40]
mircea_popescu it failed. [19:40]
[imsaguy] ;;later tell $randomNick gribble wuvs you [19:40]
copumpkin yeah, but there was something like it [19:40]
BossKom The day I have to enslave somebody to survive will be the day I die. [19:40]
Blitzboom rather, i doubt you could kill yourself just because you don’t feel like working for food [19:40]
[imsaguy] ;;later tell [randomNick] gribble wuvs you [19:40]
mircea_popescu jesus i've had it with the crap. im going to shower. WITH some girl that chooses to help, ok bossk ? [19:40]
[imsaguy] ;;later tell [$randomNick] gribble wuvs you [19:40]
BossKom I have the inherent desire to feed myself. I hunt fucking squirrels, Blitzboom. [19:41]
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Blitzboom it’s not a "desire" [19:41]
copumpkin BossKom: are those squirrels meant to be fucking? [19:41]
Blitzboom it’s an instinct [19:41]
[imsaguy] ;;later [tell [$randomNick] gribble wuvs you] [19:41]
Blitzboom and a biological need [19:41]
BossKom ...and I enjoy it. [19:41]
[imsaguy] blah blah blah [19:41]
BossKom Thus it's a desire for me. [19:41]
[imsaguy] The best part of waking up [19:41]
[imsaguy] is urmom. [19:41]
copumpkin is fucking a fresh squirrel [19:41]
copumpkin for me at least [19:41]
[imsaguy] copumpkin: same thing. [19:41]
copumpkin mmm [19:42]
Blitzboom why would your mom fuck a fresh squirrel [19:42]
[imsaguy] no, his mom IS a fresh squirrel [19:42]
[imsaguy] she likes nuts [19:42]
copumpkin deez nutz? [19:42]
[imsaguy] walnuts especially [19:42]
Blitzboom son, i am not refreshed [19:42]
copumpkin i am disappoint, honestly [19:42]
[imsaguy] Blitzboom: thank you sir, have another. [19:42]
BossKom I have a feeling that some of you are on foodstamps. [19:43]
phraust man, fuck ie7. [19:43]
Blitzboom BossKom: that’s why we defend the state [19:43]
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[imsaguy] I have a feeling BossKom is a twit [19:43]
Blitzboom we are on their payroll [19:43]
BiTn00b Boss: one thing about slaves, pets, and baby factorires, is that most of them still think they have some sliver of free will [19:44]
copumpkin BossKom: I'm a parasite and live off of the taxes everyone around here so reluctantly pays [19:44]
* copumpkin omnomnom [19:44]
BossKom >I'm poor, I can barely afford food and here I am wasting time and money on the internet [19:44]
BossKom Somethinga [19:44]
* copumpkin stamps his food with great gusto [19:44]
BossKom SomethingAwful in a nutshell [19:44]
copumpkin damn poor people [19:45]
[imsaguy] BossKom, you're in #bitcoin-politics, why persist the assspewing here? [19:45]
Blitzboom fucking parasites [19:45]
Blitzboom might makes right [19:45]
copumpkin Blitzboom: I'm not small enough for that [19:45]
BossKom oops wrong channel [19:45]
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Blitzboom now we can talk about the important stuff again [19:46]
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[imsaguy] Blitzboom: like farts? [19:47]
BossKom Farts are integral to the Buttcoin ecosystem. [19:48]
BossKom Farts go in, Buttcoins come out. You can't explain that. [19:48]
[imsaguy] anyone visit #solidcoin lately? [19:48]
vragnaroda Not too recently. [19:48]
[imsaguy] they had me banned the last time I tried to get in [19:48]
vragnaroda Why? [19:48]
[imsaguy] and all I Was doing was asking questions [19:48]
[imsaguy] I wasn't even trolling [19:49]
copumpkin [imsaguy]: dirty bitcoin spy [19:49]
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vragnaroda I will idle there for a bit until they piss me off, I say something, and get banned again. [19:49]
[imsaguy] I was attempting to understand why solidcoin>bitcoin [19:49]
vragnaroda magical thinking [19:49]
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copumpkin the best kind of thinking [19:49]
[imsaguy] does it come with pixie dust? [19:49]
BossKom Even better... [19:50]
BossKom Unicorn vaginas. [19:50]
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[imsaguy] occulta: you're just in time [19:50]
occulta i am? [19:51]
[imsaguy] mircea_popescu has been randomly highlighting people [19:51]
occulta ! [19:51]
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[imsaguy] he'll be talking and then all of the sudden, say BiTn00b or something [19:51]
[imsaguy] and then they're highlighted [19:51]
[imsaguy] so far the reviews have all been positive [19:51]
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occulta what do i win? [19:51]
BossKom Life. [19:51]
[imsaguy] vbmithr just won [19:51]
occulta ;;seen mr__ [19:51]
[imsaguy] so did Tycale [19:52]
[imsaguy] and pperi [19:52]
occulta ;;seen mr_ [19:52]
phraust solidcoin is still viable? [19:52]
BossKom SolidCoin was never viable. [19:52]
copumpkin for some definitions of the word [19:52]
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BiTn00b imsaguy: you says my name for something? [19:52]
BossKom SolidCoin is as viable as a scat thread on /b/ [19:52]
BossKom It never was. [19:53]
phraust ah. [19:53]
[imsaguy] yes BiTn00b, its called a highlight [19:53]
[imsaguy] aka 'winning' [19:53]
[imsaguy] rdponticelli just won with you [19:53]
[imsaguy] ;;echo $randomnick [19:53]
gribble ne0futur [19:53]
[imsaguy] ;;echo $randomnick [19:53]
gribble danieldaniel [19:53]
[imsaguy] lol [19:53]
BiTn00b imsaguy: interesting.. when you says my name, chatzilla hilights you and dings a bell [19:53]
BiTn00b quite annoying [19:53]
[imsaguy] BiTn00b: good to know. [19:53]
BossKom ;;echo $randomnick [19:53]
BiTn00b imsaguy: does your client ding a bell? [19:54]
[imsaguy] thats why you ident BossKom [19:54]
occulta BiTn00b: [19:54]
[imsaguy] BiTn00b: not for you. [19:54]
[imsaguy] only special people like ,,echo $randomnick [19:54]
gribble (echo ) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately. [19:54]
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[imsaguy] fail [19:54]
[imsaguy] ;;echo $randomnick [19:54]
gribble TheFriscoFainter [19:54]
vragnaroda You need to do it like ,,(echo $randomNick) [19:54]
gribble StableBNC [19:54]
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[imsaguy] thanks ,,(echo $randomNick) [19:55]
gribble rawrmage [19:55]
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[imsaguy] hiya badass [19:55]
phraust oh wow, b0g is goners. [19:55]
BiTn00b oh, wait... I just remembered why I came in here. are there any serious services or shopping experiences that use BTC yet? [19:55]
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[imsaguy] BiTn00b: stuffexists.com [19:56]
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BossKom BiTn00b: SilkRoad [19:56]
BiTn00b I'm having problems finding anything other than one-off trades and currency exchanges [19:56]
ne0futur (19:51) <+[imsaguy]> ;;echo $randomnick [19:56]
ne0futur (19:51) <@ gribble> ne0futur [19:56]
ne0futur I won ! [19:56]
[imsaguy] ne0futur: congrats! [19:56]
BossKom Congratulations, was it worth it? [19:56]
[imsaguy] ;;echo $randomnick [19:56]
gribble MrTiggr [19:56]
copumpkin ;;echo $randomnick [19:56]
[imsaguy] all these nicks that never speak [19:56]
[imsaguy] just idle [19:56]
[imsaguy] ;;ident copumpkin [19:56]
gribble Nick 'copumpkin', with hostmask 'copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin', is not identified. [19:56]
BiTn00b silkroad... yeah, because weed I buy from anonymous people will be so much better than the weed from my basement [19:56]
copumpkin :( [19:56]
[imsaguy] drug talk isn't allowed here, kthnx [19:57]
badass hey imsaguy [19:57]
Mkaysi ;;rainbow [echo $randomnick] Congratulations! You won free useless highlight! :D [19:57]
bougyman drug talk isn't allowed, really? [19:57]
copumpkin hey guys, we have a badass here [19:57]
bougyman what's up with that? [19:57]
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[imsaguy] this channel is +Ccfnt [19:58]
[imsaguy] so colors won't work [19:58]
Mkaysi There is anticapability for filter? :O [19:58]
BiTn00b seriously, are there no serious markets developed yet to drive Bitcion economy? [19:58]
phraust srsly. [19:58]
[imsaguy] BiTn00b, did you read that site I sent? [19:59]
[imsaguy] obviously not. [19:59]
Coolio- do you need the company of a woman, bitn00b? [19:59]
bougyman imsaguy: seriously, what's the problem with drug talk? [19:59]
[imsaguy] its against network policy [19:59]
bougyman i mean: i smoke weed and drink alcohol, they are normal occurences in life. [19:59]
bougyman imsaguy: howso? [19:59]
[imsaguy] its against network policy [19:59]
winsku bougyman weed is a drug [19:59]
bougyman network policy says 'local laws' [19:59]
winsku nothing normal about it [19:59]
bougyman if it's not against local laws it's not against policy [19:59]
bougyman winsku: so is caffeine and nicotene and alcohol. [20:00]
bougyman i didn't say it was not a drug. [20:00]
winsku not really [20:00]
winsku weed is dangerous omfg! [20:00]
pigeons is this #bitcoin now or something? [20:00]
winsku thats why its forbidden [20:00]
bougyman it is not illegal in many localities, and freenode policy specifically states local law [20:00]
[imsaguy] pigeons: mostly [20:00]
Mad7Scientist Law of UK + local law [20:00]
bougyman weed's not decriminalized in the UK? [20:01]
bougyman sad. [20:01]
mcorlett What is the proper terminology for usernames in the web of trust? "Nickname", or "username"? [20:01]
* Mad7Scientist gives opium to the channel [20:01]
* gribble gives voice to bougyman [20:01]
winsku weed is illegal in finland too [20:02]
winsku sad is the correct answer :D [20:02]
vragnaroda bougyman: Where are you? [20:02]
bougyman vragnaroda: texas. [20:02]
copumpkin yeehaw. [20:02]
bougyman but i'm native american, i get the brown exception [20:02]
copumpkin peyote galore [20:02]
bougyman indeed [20:02]
vragnaroda … [20:02]
bougyman it's not illegal to imbibe anything that grows, for us. [20:02]
copumpkin bougyman: do you have horns on the front of your truck? [20:02]
[imsaguy] steers and queers [20:03]
bougyman copumpkin: you missed the native american part. [20:03]
copumpkin bougyman: I thought everyone in texas did that, regardless [20:03]
bougyman i have roundeye scalps on the front of my truck. [20:03]
copumpkin lol [20:03]
vragnaroda bougyman: You missed the the meaning of ‘imbibe’ [20:03]
[imsaguy] bougyman: do you have horns on the front of your horse? [20:03]
copumpkin I hear the scalping was actually not a native american thing to begin with [20:04]
bougyman To drink in; to absorb; to soak up; to suck or take in; to [20:04]
bougyman receive as by drinking; as, a person imbibes drink, or a [20:04]
bougyman sponge imbibes moisture. [20:04]
bougyman i don't think I missed that at all. [20:04]
vragnaroda Your drinks just grow? [20:04]
vragnaroda You're smoking crack, aren't you? [20:04]
vigilyn firewater [20:04]
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bougyman crack doesn't grow [20:04]
phraust "imbibing" crack. [20:05]
bougyman san pedro grows. [20:05]
pigeons igesting crack [20:05]
bougyman the liquid from it can be imbibed. [20:05]
pigeons *ingest [20:05]
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copumpkin inhaling, imbibing, ingesting, injecting, immolating [20:05]
vragnaroda Also, don't paste that much into this channel again. [20:05]
copumpkin find the odd one out! [20:05]
pigeons disingurgitate [20:06]
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coingenuity lolwtf did i just walk in on [20:08]
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copumpkin you're being discoingenous [20:08]
BossKom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68431.new#new [20:08]
copumpkin BossKom: isn't your devilish plan starting soon? [20:09]
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BossKom copumpkin: Heheh, it's almost complete. [20:10]
BossKom All I am waiting in some Russian paperwork. [20:10]
BossKom on is* [20:10]
copumpkin them russians [20:10]
mcorlett BossKom: What happened to your "ignore" button? [20:10]
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copumpkin BossKom: that's the floating residential complex over Somalia, right? [20:11]
copumpkin you need to buy russian guns to fight off the air pirates? [20:11]
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BossKom Yes. I needed some ex-Soviet generals as well. [20:12]
Blitzboom >BossKom: What happened to your "ignore" button? [20:13]
Blitzboom indee, what the hell [20:13]
Blitzboom why is it highlighted? :D [20:14]
Blitzboom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68329.0 [20:14]
Blitzboom LOL [20:14]
Blitzboom nice, matthew has it too [20:15]
Blitzboom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68329.msg796962#msg796962 [20:15]
rg wow [20:15]
Blitzboom here are the rules [20:15]
rg its so nice out [20:15]
Blitzboom that’s AWESOME [20:15]
vragnaroda Blitzboom: I noticed a few like that earlier. [20:17]
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Blitzboom i wonder if i have a highlight [20:17]
vragnaroda It may be just because they're the top N ignored. [20:18]
Blitzboom nah, read the rules i linked [20:18]
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vragnaroda I see. [20:20]
vragnaroda That's amusing. [20:20]
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Blitzboom it’s been very accurate so far [20:20]
copumpkin rg: did you need me? [20:20]
BossKom Heh, Matthew is ignored more than me. For some reason, I'm surprised. [20:21]
Blitzboom his account is older [20:22]
Blitzboom don’t worry, you’ll cateh up with the new one [20:22]
BossKom I can't create a new account every week now that I donated, heh. [20:22]
mcorlett BossKom: Perhaps it is because you make a new account every month or so? [20:22]
BossKom Yeah, I usually like to keep things fresh. [20:23]
Blitzboom or you don’t like having an identity [20:23]
Blitzboom ie stand up for what you said [20:23]
BossKom Ha, sure. [20:24]
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Bosma imsaguy: Yes, I do. [20:37]
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bitcoinTrader ;;seen kartrohm [20:46]
gribble kartrohm was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 7 hours, 2 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: Looking for BTC in exchange for Pecunix Gold [20:46]
rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDUOmY80GhU [20:50]
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rg wow [21:01]
rg i just realized 'virtualisation' is mis spelled on bitvps [21:02]
rg about ... 20 times [21:02]
BossKom What a shame. [21:02]
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mircea_popescu ahh that was nice. [21:12]
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mcorlett I wonder what was nice... [21:13]
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mircea_popescu look in the logs ? :D [21:18]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: Was it rg realizing he misspelt "virtualisation"? [21:20]
mircea_popescu jesus i've had it with the crap. im going to shower. WITH some girl that chooses to help, ok bossk ? [21:21]
mcorlett It must've been quite the shower. [21:22]
mircea_popescu just a little on the side. [21:23]
mircea_popescu anyway. were you betaing my exchange ? [21:23]
mcorlett Have you stopped asking for my private key? :p [21:24]
mircea_popescu i never was asking for teh private key omg. [21:24]
mircea_popescu public key! [21:24]
mcorlett Link that shit. [21:24]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php [21:24]
mcorlett So, what exactly is this? [21:25]
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mircea_popescu well... an exchange [21:27]
mircea_popescu except one that's actually secure. [21:27]
bitfoo 20BTC for adding a public key? [21:28]
danieldaniel mircea_popescu: can I do it? :O [21:28]
mircea_popescu well, if you can run gpg then yes you can. [21:28]
mircea_popescu bitfoo : waived at the moment. but yes. [21:28]
danieldaniel okei [21:28]
bitfoo rather high barrier for entry [21:28]
danieldaniel too lazy [21:29]
bitfoo so if I understand right, this is an alternative to GLBSE right? [21:29]
mircea_popescu bitfoo : venture a guess as to how much would it cost you to become a floor broker on nyse ? [21:29]
mircea_popescu shit's expensive. [21:29]
bitfoo hmm.. [21:29]
mircea_popescu and i think it's complementary to glbse. [21:29]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: Sent my public key, although I have no idea what I'm doing. [21:35]
mcorlett Also, why do you want it encrypted? [21:36]
danieldaniel W00t! [21:36]
danieldaniel I won the xboxzor [21:36]
mcorlett The brick? [21:36]
danieldaniel mcorlett: yeah [21:36]
danieldaniel except lets hope not [21:36]
rawrmage danieldaniel: how epixzor [21:36]
danieldaniel I knowzor [21:38]
mircea_popescu mcorlett : you're all set. start with STAT [21:38]
* rawrmage STATs mircea_popescu [21:40]
danieldaniel so anyone need a new xbox? [21:40]
mircea_popescu lol rawr. why not stat the mpex ? [21:40]
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mcorlett Hey hey, it works! [21:41]
mcorlett (And it makes me feel like some kind of spy in the process.) [21:42]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: what's an mpex [21:42]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php << [21:42]
mircea_popescu mcorlett hehe it is preeetty hardcore. [21:43]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: ooh [21:43]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: So I have: CxBTC x 0.09900000, SxTES1 x 1`000, SxTES2 x 1`000, SxTES3 x 1`000. [21:43]
mircea_popescu so now put some stuff in the book. [21:43]
mcorlett The first is BTC and the rest are test things? [21:43]
rawrmage mircea_popescu: sounds like fun [21:43]
mircea_popescu yup [21:43]
mircea_popescu to both counts :D [21:43]
mcorlett Can't I see the book? [21:44]
mircea_popescu not yet. [21:44]
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mcorlett Cool stuff. [21:46]
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rawrmage mircea_popescu: sent woo [21:47]
mircea_popescu pigeons : you're all set. [21:47]
mcorlett pigeons? [21:47]
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mircea_popescu rawrmage you too. [21:49]
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rawrmage mircea_popescu: wooooooo [21:49]
rawrmage party [21:49]
mircea_popescu :) [21:49]
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Framedragger WTB 2.5 BTC for PPUSD, anyone? [21:51]
Framedragger make it 3.5. [21:51]
mcorlett Framedragger: You selling or buying? [21:52]
Framedragger buying bitcoins, selling the dreaded paypal usd :) [21:52]
mcorlett I'll do 2 at $5. [21:53]
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rawrmage mircea_popescu: haha yes this is totally leet hacker [21:54]
mircea_popescu :) [21:54]
mircea_popescu FIX got nothing on in, and im dead serious. [21:54]
copumpkin hax0r [21:55]
christooh ;;guide [21:55]
mircea_popescu we currently got a better platform than the lse [21:55]
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copumpkin mircea_popescu: my email is pending delivery :P meaning I'm behind a VPN that doesn't let my personal email out and I'm too lazy to set up custom routes, but when I disconnect from the VPN you'll have my email too [21:55]
mircea_popescu aite. [21:56]
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mircea_popescu i wonder if there's any drawback for huge keyrings in gpg ? [21:56]
mcorlett The Great Seal of the exchange has been dully applied. [21:57]
rawrmage yo mircea_popescu [21:57]
rawrmage it says bad sig :( [21:57]
mircea_popescu yo [21:57]
mircea_popescu you broke it ? :p [21:57]
rawrmage when I gpg --verify the decrypted STAT [21:57]
mircea_popescu ughm. quote rawrmage ? [21:57]
rawrmage let me pm you [21:57]
mircea_popescu noway ?! [21:57]
mircea_popescu ya please [21:57]
mcorlett ;;rated Framedragger [22:00]
gribble You rated user Framedragger on Fri Mar 2 13:06:30 2012, giving him a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Moderately risky PayPal transaction; will update if things go sour.. [22:00]
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mcorlett ;;rate Framedragger 2 Several moderately risky PayPal transactions; seems OK so far. [22:01]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Framedragger has changed from 2 to 2. [22:01]
bitcoinTrader ;;getrating Framedragger [22:01]
mcorlett mircea_popescu, rawrmage: Sig checks out for me. [22:01]
Framedragger ;;rate mcorlett 2 Two flawless transactions (he sold bitcoins for PPUSD), perfect! [22:02]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mcorlett has changed from 1 to 2. [22:02]
mircea_popescu ya for me 2 [22:02]
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mircea_popescu this is so bizzare. [22:02]
bitcoinTrader ;;seen easye420 [22:02]
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Raccoon If anyone is looking to help people code and possibly write code for btc, paypal, etc, might I recommend ##coders. [22:05]
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bougyman no, you might not. [22:06]
Raccoon :(( [22:06]
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Raccoon I might have if you weren't so mean about it [22:06]
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occulta ;;view 7128 [22:14]
occulta gribble doesnt write it to the room>?? [22:14]
mircea_popescu only if you're +v [22:14]
occulta ty for pointing that out [22:14]
mcorlett ;;view 7128 [22:14]
occulta #7128 Fri Mar 9 11:04:47 2012 occulta SELL 1.0 Amazon Gift Card @ 44.089 BTC ($241 Amazon Gift Card with 10% discount. Bitcoin or MtGox USD accepted.) [22:14]
gribble #7128 Fri Mar 9 11:04:47 2012 occulta SELL 1.0 Amazon Gift Card @ 44.089 BTC ($241 Amazon Gift Card with 10% discount. Bitcoin or MtGox USD accepted.) [22:14]
occulta why ty :) [22:14]
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garbagegod Looking for $40 of bitcoins with moneypak [22:16]
garbagegod anyone interested [22:16]
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smickles ;;ticker [22:21]
gribble Best bid: 4.91958, Best ask: 4.9298, Bid-ask spread: 0.01022, Last trade: 4.92984, 24 hour volume: 21829, 24 hour low: 4.8561, 24 hour high: 4.95 [22:21]
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garbagegod anybodyy [22:22]
rawrmage everypony [22:23]
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smickles how many is 40 usd worth of bitcoins garbagegod ? [22:23]
smickles ;;view 7096 [22:23]
gribble #7096 Tue Mar 6 21:34:31 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 Depositary Receipt @ 0.1 BTC (I can do any amount (positive integer). This DR represents the underlying asset MPOE.ETF on GLBSE. I will act as a holding agent for anyone who doesn't want to use GLBSE to purchase shares of the fund. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.0) [22:23]
sipa ;;mtgox [22:23]
garbagegod I wanna say like 5 or 6 [22:23]
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garbagegod er, more like 8 [22:24]
smickles "best listing on GLBSE" available now, without the hassle at no extra cost to you :D [22:24]
garbagegod I require asap [22:24]
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mircea_popescu what's that smickles ? [22:26]
smickles garbagegod: do you have the receipt? [22:26]
smickles mircea_popescu: the best listing on GLBSE is, ofc, MPOE.ETF ;) [22:26]
mircea_popescu noway ?! [22:26]
garbagegod Yeah I have it [22:26]
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smickles mircea_popescu: you, of all people, are falling for my sales pitch hook line and sinker? [22:27]
mircea_popescu lmao [22:27]
smickles gar, I offer you 7btc [22:27]
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smickles mircea_popescu: not that it's a bad deal, it's just, you know, "best" is pretty vague [22:29]
mircea_popescu hey, it is imo one ofg the better stocks there. [22:30]
smickles well, yeah [22:30]
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smickles read those contracts, most of them blow ass [22:30]
mod6 Hey whats up guys. [22:31]
mod6 ;; view 7159 [22:31]
gribble #7159 Mon Mar 12 13:30:21 2012 mod6 BUY 7.75 BTC @ 40 USD (I have a $40.00 USD MoneyPak, want to trade for BTC. Auth/Rating required on OTC. Thanks!) [22:31]
smickles ;;gettrust garbagegod [22:31]
gribble Trust relationship from user smickles to user garbagegod: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=smickles&dest=garbagegod [22:31]
smickles ;;gettrust mod6 [22:31]
gribble Trust relationship from user smickles to user mod6: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 6 via 6 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=smickles&dest=mod6 [22:31]
mircea_popescu i have read them. [22:32]
mircea_popescu there's also the problem implicit in all mining ventures that well... suppose the guy gets foreclosed on. [22:32]
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mircea_popescu thrown out, has an apt fire, gf goes nuts etc etc. [22:32]
Cory mircea_popescu: Shock of my life? [22:32]
smickles mod6: will you take 7.4? [22:32]
mircea_popescu cory : guess what. guess oh guess. [22:33]
Cory Accounts! :P [22:33]
mod6 Na, I gotta get 7.75, my price is based upon mtgoxlast * 1.05 [22:33]
EvanR Someguy123: glass [22:33]
mircea_popescu yes accounts. well, sort of , but still. [22:34]
easystevey looking to sell Moneypaks as well, 70 and 100, for BTC [22:34]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php << check it. [22:34]
easystevey new user... unfamiliiar with all the ins and outs and looking to get ratings [22:35]
mircea_popescu ;;ident easystevey [22:35]
gribble Nick 'easystevey', with hostmask 'easystevey!6c2e0ead@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.46.14.173', is identified as user easystevey, with GPG key id 3F0A282CB961C7F8, and key fingerprint 5CA5B85A3ED267FA31E07E283F0A282CB961C7F8. [22:35]
garbagegod I've done one exchange here before [22:35]
mircea_popescu hey, he even id'd. nice going. [22:35]
garbagegod I should have *some* ratings I would think [22:35]
mircea_popescu garbagegod : who did you trade with ? [22:35]
garbagegod ;;gettrust garbagegod [22:35]
garbagegod I dunno [22:35]
garbagegod I wanna say jack something [22:35]
mircea_popescu well... they could rate you. [22:35]
garbagegod jack5? something like that? [22:36]
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smickles micols: what is that [22:36]
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smickles mpex? [22:36]
smickles an exchange of whatnow? [22:36]
mircea_popescu :) [22:37]
mircea_popescu of everything smickles. [22:37]
mikee__ I have 100$ moneypak to tradde [22:37]
rawrmage exchanges the letters m and p [22:37]
mircea_popescu atm just test mpsics, but soon... THE WERLDS! [22:37]
mircea_popescu send me your public key, you can play around with it. [22:37]
smickles so, an anon (solong as your priv key remains safe) exchange of everything? [22:39]
rawrmage anononon [22:39]
mircea_popescu yup. [22:39]
smickles that's a nifty idea [22:39]
mircea_popescu its basically bitcoins for stox. [22:39]
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Cory Omg a real mircea_popescu exchange! :DDD [22:40]
mircea_popescu :) [22:40]
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mircea_popescu imo its gonna kick butt. [22:40]
rg umm [22:40]
rg i hate this [22:40]
rg i stopped writing PHP for a few weeks [22:40]
mircea_popescu don't hate rg. reciprocate. [22:40]
rg now i forget how this web app works [22:40]
mircea_popescu php doesn't work. [22:41]
smickles i dont' like php :/ [22:41]
mircea_popescu php PROCESSES :D [22:41]
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mircea_popescu so anyway, if pgp is pretty good privacy what's php ? pretty hip privacy ? [22:41]
* garbagegod is a PHP programmer [22:42]
smickles garbagegod: prostitue yourself [22:42]
mircea_popescu help penetrate-test rg's webapp :D [22:42]
* smickles should relearn to spell [22:42]
garbagegod Why does this channel need a web developer [22:42]
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garbagegod I'll penetrate whatever you want ;) [22:42]
mircea_popescu for to make cookies [22:42]
smickles dunno [22:42]
garbagegod Just take my fucking moneypak [22:42]
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smickles also check out ##coders [22:43]
mircea_popescu php programmers have to pay moneypaks to be hired :D [22:43]
garbagegod SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEYpak [22:44]
smickles garbagegod: I'll give you 7 btc for it [22:44]
garbagegod smickles: are you from the states, and isnt that like 28 bucks in usd? [22:46]
EvanR ;;ticker [22:46]
mircea_popescu 7btc = ~34usd [22:47]
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garbagegod I need 7.2btc [22:49]
garbagegod is that cool? [22:49]
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garbagegod 7.2 not alright? [22:54]
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rg hey imsaguy [22:55]
rg i took you up on that offer [22:55]
rg and btchero [22:55]
neofutur ;;gettrust garbagegod [22:55]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user garbagegod: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ne0futur&dest=garbagegod [22:55]
rg i got a HUGE dinner [22:55]
rg ;> [22:55]
neofutur ;;ident garbagegod [22:55]
gribble Nick 'garbagegod', with hostmask 'garbagegod!~shelby@24-181-108-34.static.mtgm.al.charter.com', is not identified. [22:55]
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rg ala BAMA [22:56]
neofutur garbagegod: better register and identify if you wnt to find sellers [22:56]
rg i need to fix this changepassword.php [22:56]
rg i fucked it all up.. [22:56]
garbagegod Pretty sure I've done that previously [22:56]
garbagegod rg want some help? [22:56]
rg ;;getrating garbagegod [22:56]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [22:56]
garbagegod how do i auth again [22:56]
rg no.. i can do it im just so damn lazy [22:56]
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neofutur garbagegod: http://gw.gd/bcauth [22:57]
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garbagegod fuckkk [22:57]
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easystevey i'm selling 70 MP for 14 BTC and 100 MP for 20 BTC [22:58]
easystevey anyone wanna help me make my first otc trade? :) [22:59]
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smickles garbagegod: sorry, i had to step away [23:08]
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garbagegod smickles: np [23:10]
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garbagegod I cant be bothered registering, but if you wanna hit me up smickles, I can give you the receipt and shit [23:10]
garbagegod its funny because I'm a programmer and can't be bothered using anything PGP [23:11]
smickles i can't be bothered to deal with you then, you understand i hope, good luck finding a seller [23:11]
garbagegod god fucking damn it [23:11]
mcorlett Haha [23:11]
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smickles garbagegod: i just got taken advantage of to the tune of 20k usd because I was nice, and i geve people slack. so yeah, i'm not doing that any more [23:12]
smickles btw, 20k is more than half my families annual income :/ [23:13]
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garbagegod smickles: really? [23:14]
mcorlett smickles: Oh crap. Want to share? [23:14]
garbagegod how the fuck did that happen [23:14]
smickles sleezy tenants [23:14]
smickles didn't pay rent, did property damage, stole from me [23:14]
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smickles I imagine they thought they were "sticking it to whitie" [23:15]
neofutur garbagegod: define programmer :p [23:16]
smickles it was malicious theft too. [23:16]
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mcorlett (Wrote a batch script that opens and closes the CD tray.) [23:17]
neofutur I thought of something like that mcorlett ;) [23:17]
mircea_popescu wtf ?! 20k ? how, smickles ? [23:17]
* smickles will shut up about it b/c otherwise, he'll start smoking again [23:17]
mircea_popescu sucks. [23:18]
mcorlett smickles: Bad for the kids! [23:18]
mircea_popescu did you write that in php mcorlett ? [23:19]
smickles mcorlett: speaking of the 6 or so kids they had and didn't tell me about, I hope this sith lands the tenents in jail, and those kids go to any foster home where they will surely live a better life and learn to be better people than their parents could ever provide / do [23:20]
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smickles ir, nix do , replace with teach or something [23:21]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Yes. [23:21]
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mcorlett paulzag: Please. [23:21]
helo anyone want to buy some 18month-2T kids clothes for btc? [23:21]
helo free shipping :) [23:21]
smickles if i didn't already have too many, I so would helo [23:22]
mircea_popescu lmao [23:22]
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helo i am not motivated enough to document and sell these through ebay/paypal, but i would for btc [23:22]
neofutur smickles: https://twitter.com/#!/neofutur/status/179316231965392896 is your story ? [23:22]
bobgee ;;ticker [23:23]
helo particularly because i don't think anyone in here would sell me btc for paypal with my rating of 2... [23:23]
mircea_popescu you only got 2 ?! [23:23]
neofutur ;;gettrust helo [23:23]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user helo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ne0futur&dest=helo [23:23]
neofutur ;;gpg ident helo [23:23]
gribble Nick 'helo', with hostmask 'helo!helo@unaffiliated/helo', is identified as user nkr, with GPG key id A17261E9F7F7F93B, and key fingerprint 7D7FFDAE6E5B701E95880A03A17261E9F7F7F93B. [23:23]
paulzag ;;getrating helo [23:23]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [23:23]
helo ;;getrating [ident helo] [23:23]
gribble User nkr, created on Mon Dec 12 10:19:43 2011. Cumulative rating 3, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nkr Currently authenticated from hostmask helo!helo@unaffiliated/helo [23:23]
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neofutur ah gpg ident dont say the registration date [23:24]
neofutur or oldest rating date [23:24]
smickles neofutur: no, if paypal were involved in my shit, it would probably be worse [23:24]
bobgee ;;ticker [23:24]
neofutur helo: you dont have a rating of 2, or do you ? [23:25]
helo i have a rating of 2. [23:25]
paulzag ;;gettrust helo paulzag [23:25]
gribble Trust relationship from user helo to user paulzag: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=helo&dest=paulzag [23:25]
neofutur smickles: ok you were speaking of 20k$ at the same time as this sad paypal story comes out [23:25]
neofutur thought could be related [23:25]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Actually: [23:25]
mcorlett Loads of fun! [23:25]
helo you guys need to use [ident helo] instead of 'helo'... my WoT user is nkr [23:25]
paulzag ;;gettrust paulzag nkr [23:25]
gribble Trust relationship from user paulzag to user nkr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=paulzag&dest=nkr [23:25]
mircea_popescu what's with all the questionmarks mcorlett ? :D [23:26]
neofutur ;;gettrust nkr [23:26]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user nkr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ne0futur&dest=nkr [23:26]
smickles neofutur: naw, I picked a couple of subhumans for tenants :/ [23:26]
helo hmm... i did a trade with gigavps and gmaxwell... seems like they would be trusted by you to some extent [23:26]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Pardon me? [23:26]
helo they are the most trustworthy people i know, at least :) [23:26]
mircea_popescu ?> [23:26]
garbagegod wtf [23:26]
garbagegod while(true){} is dumb [23:27]
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smickles even as a placeholder? [23:27]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Old habits die hard. [23:27]
mcorlett garbagegod: It works great for closing and opening the CD tray. You should know this. [23:27]
helo use sleep() instead :) [23:27]
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mircea_popescu [23:28]
mircea_popescu o sorry my bad, i misspelled erect. [23:28]
neofutur (23:25) -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with nickserv [23:29]
neofutur (23:25) info helo [23:29]
neofutur (23:25) -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Information on helo (account helo): [23:29]
neofutur (23:25) -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Feb 04 21:31:22 2004 (8 years, 5 weeks, 3 days, 23:56:24 ago [23:29]
neofutur enough to trust you helo ;) [23:29]
helo :D [23:29]
mcorlett paulzag: Please stop spamming your "paulzag is back" messages. Especially in -pit. [23:29]
neofutur someone on freenode since 2004 . . . [23:29]
neofutur could deserve a little more trust [23:29]
helo not to mention that my gpg key is linked to my domain name... [23:29]
mcorlett helo: Which is linked to your home address? [23:30]
neofutur nanotube: ¡¡¡ [23:30]
neofutur if gribble and otc system could have a look on nickserv and gpg key . . . would be cool [23:30]
smickles "I bet PayPal’s employee break room is full of kittens to snack on when the daily grind of crushing people’s dreams gets too exhausting." << lol [23:30]
smickles not that i make the claim that it's bad to eat kittens [23:31]
novusordo selling a $15 itunes card for 2 BTC [23:31]
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novusordo that's 7.5 USD for each btc... [23:31]
mcorlett ;;getrating novusordo [23:32]
gribble User novusordo, created on Wed Jan 25 15:31:34 2012. Cumulative rating 5, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=novusordo Currently authenticated from hostmask novusordo!~novus@m4.mullvad.net [23:32]
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mcorlett Mullvad is a proxy, right? [23:32]
novusordo it's a VPN service [23:32]
mcorlett Right. [23:32]
smickles "best listing on GLBSE" available now, without the hassle at no extra cost to you :D ,,(view 7096) [23:32]
gribble #7096 Tue Mar 6 21:34:31 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 Depositary Receipt @ 0.1 BTC (I can do any amount (positive integer). This DR represents the underlying asset MPOE.ETF on GLBSE. I will act as a holding agent for anyone who doesn't want to use GLBSE to purchase shares of the fund. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.0) [23:32]
helo mcorlett: indeed [23:34]
mcorlett ;;google bitcoin vps [23:35]
gribble Bitcoin VPS - Reliable Virtual Private Servers: ; VPS, VPN - The Bitcoin List : The Bitcoin List: ; bitcoin VPS - The Bitcoin List : The Bitcoin List: [23:35]
bitinstant ;;google coin [23:35]
bitinstant :( [23:36]
rg uns uns uns [23:38]
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Cory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdvTkddp1F0 [23:43]
Cory Lololol ^ [23:43]
Cory ;;title [23:43]
gribble (title ) -- Returns the HTML of a URL. [23:43]
Cory "Don't Get Zhou Tonged!!!" [23:43]
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btcsantander ;;rate sturles 1 Bought 20 BTC through bank transfer. Very fast and no problem! [23:49]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user sturles has been recorded. [23:49]
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clone1018 mcorlett: if you're looking for a vps let me know [23:54]
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mcorlett clone1018: Mostly Europe, so your service won't really work for me. [23:55]
clone1018 You know of my service :o? [23:55]
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mcorlett Sure I do. [23:56]
clone1018 Amazing! [23:57]
paulzag ;;ticker [23:57]
gribble Best bid: 4.88119, Best ask: 4.92975, Bid-ask spread: 0.04856, Last trade: 4.88118, 24 hour volume: 22475, 24 hour low: 4.8561, 24 hour high: 4.95 [23:57]
Estafusis can anyone exchange $120 on a MP card to BTC for me? [23:58]
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