Forum logs for 11 Mar 2016

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform call 95%mart!111 it liveth to serve! [00:01]
kakobrekla yes i found be-quiet there [00:02]
* kakobrekla curious if asciilifeform ever makes a compromise for the sake of his pet [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00052462 = 4.8265 BTC [+] [00:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0005248 = 6.6125 BTC [+] [00:10]
punkman /me found a dusty, 20 year old bottle of Canadian Club yesterday [00:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7340 @ 0.00052549 = 3.8571 BTC [+] {3} [00:11]
kakobrekla does it still work? [00:11]
punkman I will find out now [00:11]
punkman hmm not bad. I should find a newer bottle to compare it with. [00:15]
punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4I9iBZNUu4 [00:17]
assbot Soul MaKossa - Manu Dibango - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIAwkR ) [00:17]
* kakobrekla actually has that album in his collection [00:18]
punkman on vinyl? [00:18]
kakobrekla neg [00:18]
kakobrekla a flac. [00:19]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla> does it still work? << no because it was immersed in dust for the interval [00:22]
mircea_popescu and it blew up its capacitancerors. [00:22]
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phf ben_vulpes: i spent few hours in your city, long enough to collect loot from Powell's Books [00:28]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.up:d099e93faaf37d5eab586699b343f2478ae29de8f37ae9ded1e4bc447a3d3424 [00:28]
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mircea_popescu damned fleanode [00:28]
mircea_popescu incidentally, i just talked to assboy [00:29]
mircea_popescu apparently it doesn't know what !v is [00:29]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu connected to the ftmeade fleanode or what. [00:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's what it says when i ask nickserv to ghost my name. [00:30]
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mircea_popescu which i gotta do if i'm reconnecting before being officially disconnected. [00:30]
mircea_popescu phf hey, looks just like where i'm from. [00:32]
mircea_popescu what is this, cascadia ? [00:32]
phf yeah, same, it's like being home. birch, evergreen, moss [00:33]
asciilifeform neato [00:33]
asciilifeform (precious little of this here in the swamps) [00:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00052669 = 1.8961 BTC [+] {4} [00:34]
* kakobrekla lives in jungle by b-a standards [00:34]
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mircea_popescu https://cluj-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/assets/pekus-statiunea-baisoara.jpg << the fashionable place for losing one's virginity at the time. [00:35]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5ZBtB ) [00:36]
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kakobrekla my house is approx visible here http://i.imgur.com/2qJEaL5.jpg [00:44]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1U606nr ) [00:44]
* asciilifeform fires up ac [00:45]
asciilifeform without which summer here would not be habitable. [00:45]
mircea_popescu still pine [00:45]
asciilifeform spring is ~1 week long in the swamp. [00:45]
asciilifeform after that - hot sticky mess [00:45]
asciilifeform green hell [00:45]
asciilifeform like venus prison planet in old sf stories. [00:46]
phf asciilifeform: was dreading coming back to dc, it didn't disappoint. it's already getting clammy [00:47]
phf meanwhile, in cascadian forest http://glyf.org/tmp/green-outside.jpg [00:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIDjKC ) [00:47]
asciilifeform mm [00:48]
mircea_popescu so why aren't you two moving to seattle or w/e [00:48]
phf or http://glyf.org/tmp/bridge-outside.jpg the whole place is out of slavik fairytales [00:48]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIDmq3 ) [00:48]
kakobrekla its not 100% solution !!!1111 [00:48]
mircea_popescu oh sorry. [00:48]
asciilifeform i can't speak for phf [00:48]
mircea_popescu yeah srsly phf looks just about right. i guess once i'm out on parole ima go live with ben_vulpes in his guest bedroom. [00:49]
asciilifeform but swamp is one of the two kolymas where they have asciilifeforms toil to mine uranium for the 5yearplan [00:49]
mircea_popescu what's the other one, the everglades ? [00:50]
asciilifeform (the other being the godforsaken 10,000usd broomcloset flat bay area) [00:50]
asciilifeform sf bay [00:51]
mircea_popescu and in other news, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0 [00:51]
assbot The Kingston Trio - M.T.A. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U60qT6 ) [00:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7211 @ 0.00052309 = 3.772 BTC [-] {3} [00:51]
asciilifeform famous! [00:52]
asciilifeform i learned it from pet. [00:52]
mircea_popescu how about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0TtIRpG-jE ? [00:53]
assbot Everglades - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U60wdx ) [00:53]
mircea_popescu " Where a man can hide and never be found and have no fear of the bayin' hounds. But he better keep movin' and don't stand still. If the 'skeeters don't get then the 'gaters will" [00:54]
asciilifeform sounds right. [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00052284 = 4.8886 BTC [-] {2} [00:57]
phf i don't actually have any reason to stay in dc long term, maybe another few months to a year [00:58]
phf but unlike ascii i don't have any aversion to shit jobs as long as they pay max and take up min time [00:59]
phf i think "full stack" "web" etc. jobs are primarily shit not because you have to hack javascript or manage imbeciles, but because they have notoriously shit pay-time ratios. 9-5-5 for 140k and 1 week vacation? better fucking shoot me [01:03]
mircea_popescu you know barrista makes 35k or so. [01:04]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 140000 * .45 / 8 / 5 / 51 [01:05]
gribble 30.8823529412 [01:05]
mircea_popescu about half what a whore makes, if she's serious about it. [01:05]
asciilifeform i thought a good whore can make MAXINT !? [01:06]
mircea_popescu how did you think that ? [01:06]
asciilifeform the ads in volkischer beobachter ? [01:07]
mircea_popescu lol ok. [01:07]
asciilifeform few hundy / hr [01:07]
mircea_popescu it's mostly opportunity cost. she spends her time with you, she can't be at the blackjack table smooching. [01:08]
asciilifeform whatever it is, it beats my profession. [01:09]
asciilifeform no whore ever punched a motherfucking clock [01:10]
asciilifeform or sat in an office. [01:10]
asciilifeform or 'boss screen'-d. [01:10]
BingoBoingo I dunno, they might have to actually punch clock at the regulated Nevada brothels [01:12]
* asciilifeform has nfi [01:12]
asciilifeform i've never set foot there and dont expect to [01:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform> no whore ever punched a motherfucking clock << you're kidding, right ? [01:12]
mircea_popescu 4 an hour, baby. [01:13]
asciilifeform waiwut?! [01:13]
mircea_popescu most whores alive today, as wel las historically, do punch clock, and also live in a fucking office. [01:13]
mircea_popescu it's a large dark damp room, with sheet separated beds. [01:13]
asciilifeform client punches clock! [01:13]
asciilifeform this is different! [01:13]
asciilifeform like lawyer. [01:14]
mircea_popescu i think youy maybe haven't seen so many whores at work. [01:14]
asciilifeform mebbe not [01:14]
asciilifeform i guess the sheet whores are similar to the wwwstack programmers [01:14]
asciilifeform many of'em but no nyoozpaper ad [01:15]
mircea_popescu take a vacation, go to say costa rica, check out how the girls live. [01:16]
* asciilifeform recalls mircea_popescu article on same [01:17]
asciilifeform wish i had such a thing as vacation. [01:17]
deedbot- [Qntra] F-35 Software Requiring Hard Reboots While Airborne - http://qntra.net/2016/03/f-35-software-requiring-hard-reboots-while-airborne/ [01:28]
* BingoBoingo suspects alf may have problem mod6 wrestled with last month, may actually despite protest require time away from keyboard and instead eating delicious beef in southern hemisphere. [01:29]
asciilifeform would go right now if could. [01:29]
asciilifeform and not come back, if could. [01:30]
asciilifeform this hell is not for people [01:30]
asciilifeform should be left to mice, fleas, bureaucrats. [01:31]
BingoBoingo Honestly I though the swampy aspects of here were bad, but your descriptions of the swamp make me thankful for my present climate [01:32]
mircea_popescu ;;google argentina weather [01:32]
gribble Buenos Aires , Argentina - The Weather Channel - Weather.com: ; Climate of Argentina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Weather in Argentina - Lonely Planet: [01:32]
BingoBoingo AC is not one yet, though I did spread a bunch of BTi this afternoon to get a head start on mosquito control due to the mild winter. [01:32]
asciilifeform i have ~24 yrs of stoked hatred for the fuckngswamp [01:32]
mircea_popescu wait, you lived there whole lyf ?! [01:33]
BingoBoingo get a reciprocating saw and take that hatred out on nature. It will make you feel better [01:33]
asciilifeform what nature. [01:33]
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asciilifeform scarcely anything to saw here. [01:33]
asciilifeform shrubs, sickly things. [01:34]
asciilifeform soil is red clay. [01:34]
BingoBoingo That just means saw feels even more powerful [01:34]
asciilifeform i nearly destroyed the chainsaw last time [01:34]
BingoBoingo yellow/orange clay here grows giant plants just fine [01:34]
asciilifeform it did not like the shrubs. [01:34]
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BingoBoingo See, this is not a chainsaw job, too much power... it gets confused and tears at self. [01:35]
cazalla arvo' [01:35]
BingoBoingo arvo' to you too [01:35]
cazalla looks more like a shrub BingoBoingo [01:35]
cazalla chainsaw wouldn't be sporting though so all good [01:36]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You just need cheapest 18 volt reciprocating saw made by TTi and branded with whatever battery system pisses you off least + 5 tpi blade. Instant stress relief. [01:36]
asciilifeform not much to saw, again [01:37]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Well, didn't have much time [01:38]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But the shrubs!? [01:38]
asciilifeform and mosquitoes eat you alive. [01:38]
cazalla how about a hand axe? got that wrist strength, was an ezmode job for the few trees around here i axed down [01:38]
BingoBoingo BTi werkz for mosquitoes. Not the adults, but generally can be guerilla applied sufficient radius to protect own yard. [01:38]
BingoBoingo cazalla: Neighbor's fence on one side. My shed on the other. No room to swing. [01:39]
asciilifeform i'd actually rather have moar treez [01:39]
asciilifeform than less [01:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00052491 = 6.7713 BTC [+] {2} [01:39]
cazalla well chopping one down doesn't preclude you from planting a few more [01:41]
BingoBoingo Also real trees love hard clay soil [01:41]
cazalla that's what i did here.. pissed the non-fruit bearing trees here off, replace with fruit-bearing [01:41]
asciilifeform i know a fella who does this [01:42]
asciilifeform lives in westvrginia. [01:42]
asciilifeform b00lcrap are you alive? [01:42]
BingoBoingo aha, him! [01:42]
asciilifeform ;;later tell b00lcrap come back to us. [01:42]
gribble The operation succeeded. [01:42]
asciilifeform old friend [01:43]
asciilifeform he has trouble getting a reliable net socket. [01:45]
asciilifeform tcp over old slave banjo. [01:45]
asciilifeform or the like. [01:45]
kakobrekla mega map http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1PtI6GVXXXXbpXXXXq6xXFXXXf/222422998/HTB1PtI6GVXXXXbpXXXXq6xXFXXXf.jpg [01:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QLptZi ) [01:47]
cazalla BingoBoingo, got much going on in the garden this spring of yours? [01:47]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: l0l wats this, led lamps? [01:47]
BingoBoingo cazalla: So far jsut tidying up tree litter out front and clearing feral corner of the back which is pretty much done [01:48]
kakobrekla science and technology! [01:48]
BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdPQmwqVIAA3xV1.jpg [01:51]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1nBFKnN ) [01:51]
kakobrekla unrelatedly, just ordered 9690sa-8l as per ascii, had to do it from the states because it appears to be a rare thing in europe with price factor of ~5 [01:52]
BingoBoingo cazalla: What about yout garden this fall? [01:52]
cazalla got a second batch of cucumbers in, and put some broccoli, cabbage and cauliflower in last week, snow peas go in next month [01:53]
BingoBoingo sweet [01:53]
cazalla and enough pickled tomatoes from the summer to last until next spring [01:54]
BingoBoingo We had a very mild winter so no die back on the rosebushes and the spring bulb have had leaves up testing the weather since late december [01:54]
cazalla down under summer was cooler than usually, at least it felt that way, no 3-4 day heat waves anyway so garden did well [01:55]
cazalla re: trump image.. you know that's all they're talking about here in the oz media, trump this, trump that, you'd think he was running for PM of aus [01:56]
cazalla (which in a round about way, probably is ha) [01:56]
kakobrekla >According to the Transmission website version 2.90 was infected with malware. [01:59]
kakobrekla sorta old (4 days) [02:00]
* BingoBoingo strongly suspects the outcome is going to be a brokered convention with Trump continuing his run and losing on a third party or independent ticket [02:00]
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BingoBoingo sorta old (4 days) << sorta old (4 days) [02:00]
BingoBoingo ^http://qntra.net/2016/03/ransomware-comes-to-osx-bittorrent-client/ [02:00]
BingoBoingo sorry [02:00]
kakobrekla ah [02:00]
kakobrekla my bad. [02:00]
BingoBoingo it happens [02:01]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430316 << they're doing the same in argentina, all the bored she-derps in the press and media generally feel ever so threatened by him. [10:00]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 04:57:03; cazalla: re: trump image.. you know that's all they're talking about here in the oz media, trump this, trump that, you'd think he was running for PM of aus [10:00]
mircea_popescu they had bought into the ustard liberal nonsense, how is this possibru! church of clinton&hussein, best in world! [10:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00052266 = 3.0837 BTC [-] {2} [10:00]
mircea_popescu #nounamenos!11 [10:00]
mircea_popescu oh oops, i think it's spelled #quantanamena or something. [10:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23826 @ 0.00052228 = 12.4438 BTC [-] {4} [10:03]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430320 << nah, he's winning on third party and buries gop 4evar. [10:03]
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assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 05:00:18; *: BingoBoingo strongly suspects the outcome is going to be a brokered convention with Trump continuing his run and losing on a third party or independent ticket [10:03]
mircea_popescu best lulz outcome. [10:03]
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mircea_popescu if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. [10:04]
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mircea_popescu ;;ud fp [10:05]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FP&defid=1022662 | FP. F.P. or Fag Potential is a person whos sexuality is doubtfull; somone who can be straight but in his actions/clothing/talking/mannerisms can act gay. Gaylord: ... [10:05]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ? [10:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.000522 = 5.5593 BTC [-] {4} [10:08]
mircea_popescu and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [10:08]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQkg6 ) [10:09]
PeterL hey, some of my work got cited in the WSJ: http://archive.is/BUGGs [10:10]
shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430369 <<< it's surprisingly easy to get these from any docs office on unsecured lan xD [10:10]
assbot Laundry Detergent From Jessica Alba’s Honest Co. Contains Ingredient It Pledged to Avoid - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQwMp ) [10:10]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 13:09:14; mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [10:10]
mircea_popescu ajhaha nice PeterL [10:11]
mircea_popescu care to make a brief qntra ? it's lulzy enough i think [10:11]
shinohai #fail (-_-) [10:11]
PeterL Sure, I could put something together [10:12]
PeterL can I add more quotes from me, they only quoted my coworker in the article? [10:13]
mircea_popescu which is you, impact analyutical ? [10:13]
PeterL yep [10:13]
mircea_popescu you can add whatever you want, your article. [10:13]
PeterL aha [10:13]
mircea_popescu personal authority, it's a thing. you were there, you saw it, as long as you're willing to swear to it, that's what it is. [10:14]
mircea_popescu who dun like it can swear to something else. [10:14]
shinohai worked for the parents who swore maple syrup trumps science. [10:15]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430262 << i was moved to this chimp reservation as 9yo, this was in old thread, aha [10:15]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 04:33:35; mircea_popescu: wait, you lived there whole lyf ?! [10:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is unsanitary. "live in most of the world" is CERTAINLY a step in making mps. [10:16]
asciilifeform got net pipe soon after, grew up malignantly asocial [10:16]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that would need MONEY [10:17]
mircea_popescu this may be a crippling impediment in children, but it is not in adults. i had a girl like that, she was ordered to pick up girls in the street every day. and she did. and it went away. [10:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform money, my dear alf, is by and large a crutch. if you need money to make friends the problem's not the money. [10:18]
asciilifeform anyway i'm certainly no mircea_popescu , just a half-man chimeric dr mengele creation. [10:18]
asciilifeform gurlz are programmable. [10:18]
mircea_popescu and what, your own head is bad chinese fpga and you misplaced teh keys ? [10:19]
asciilifeform antifuse. [10:20]
mircea_popescu you know, it's funny [10:20]
mircea_popescu that's what the gurlz think, also. [10:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5326 @ 0.00052495 = 2.7959 BTC [+] {3} [10:22]
asciilifeform nobody rechips male nobodies under microscope, harem is an asymmetrical thing [10:23]
asciilifeform if your ballz are still attached - yer on your own. [10:23]
asciilifeform fwiw. [10:23]
mircea_popescu there is that. [10:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is an upside to the 24years of kolyma. i dun think anyone alive hates this place, as ~accurately~ and deeply as i do. [10:26]
asciilifeform i hate every speck of dust on every pavement tile. [10:26]
mircea_popescu lol so what, gonna move into poetry ? [10:27]
asciilifeform just to point out. [10:27]
asciilifeform !s http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [10:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQkg6 ) [10:29]
assbot 0 results for 'http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [10:29]
asciilifeform wat?! [10:29]
asciilifeform 2 just today [10:29]
asciilifeform but i was quite certain we had it before, in december maybe [10:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9963 @ 0.00052405 = 5.2211 BTC [-] {2} [10:30]
asciilifeform i still have nfi how #b-a search actually worx, it certainly is not grep-compat. [10:31]
mircea_popescu uh [10:31]
mircea_popescu wut ? [10:31]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430369 [10:33]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 13:09:14; mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [10:34]
mircea_popescu hm was before ? [10:34]
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asciilifeform i thought so. [10:34]
mircea_popescu hm... i just grepped log ? nope ? [10:35]
mircea_popescu are you confusing ukr blondy for another ukr blondy perhaps ? [10:35]
mircea_popescu or maybe different teeny slut wore the same buttstring to teh beach. [10:36]
asciilifeform with anatomy school backdrop [10:37]
asciilifeform definitely had that before [10:37]
mircea_popescu ah, that yes. [10:37]
mircea_popescu same studio, wadda ya want, new scenography ? [10:38]
mircea_popescu new coat of wallpaint costs 10x more than new girls. [10:38]
asciilifeform l0l [10:38]
mircea_popescu and EVEN SO human reproduction is overly expensive [10:39]
mircea_popescu in biologic terms. [10:39]
asciilifeform even more expensive if you reintroduce QA as per yesterday thread !111 [10:39]
mircea_popescu aha. [10:40]
asciilifeform '...for your convenience we have packaged the defective 8% of transistors you asked for, separately!' (tm) (r) [10:40]
mircea_popescu depends to. the problem here is that high value males are interested in owning females, not interested in producing litter. consequently, western world has fertility crisis. [10:41]
mircea_popescu if society were actually sane, i'd prolly reproduce, so the cost issue is iffy. [10:41]
asciilifeform ~nobody cares to breed muppets for hitler's army. [10:42]
mircea_popescu quite. [10:42]
mircea_popescu even without shoehorning "hitler" in here, the only sane way reproduction works is that i have life and death power over any offspring until they go on their own. [10:42]
asciilifeform aha! [10:43]
mircea_popescu then the female drive to reproduce is finally balanced, and i frankly wouldn't care if they want or don't want to get pregnant, make your own choices. [10:43]
asciilifeform recall the thread we had when i was at c3. [10:43]
mircea_popescu vaguely, which ? [10:43]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-04-2015#1106799 [10:46]
assbot Logged on 22-04-2015 03:59:18; ascii_lander: i would like the ability to shoot them, for example, at any age [10:46]
mircea_popescu possibly shooting no good. you wanna kill it, you gotta strangle it. stab it. something. [10:47]
mircea_popescu shooting's too clean. [10:47]
asciilifeform drown. traditinal! [10:47]
asciilifeform !s dumplings [10:47]
assbot 20 results for 'dumplings' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dumplings [10:47]
mircea_popescu i guess. [10:47]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#509010 [10:48]
assbot Logged on 16-02-2014 22:04:18; asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them' [10:48]
asciilifeform as it is i'd rather eat nagant. [10:50]
asciilifeform for offspring you need sane world + economic surplus (at least at the not-being-in-labour-camp level) [10:52]
mircea_popescu demographically it's rather lulzy, tho. take europe : it went through three to twelve generations of this negative selection, 0 reproduction from higher value individuals, depending how you count the generations. and, woe of woes : BEFORE, the better tatars came raiding, and raped. so it fixed things, for a century or two. [10:52]
asciilifeform or, alternatively, being stray dog who doesnt giveafuq [10:52]
mircea_popescu but now, the higher value arabs are ALSO sitting home with the bitches, and sending the runts over. [10:52]
mircea_popescu there is ~no way europe doesn't turn into africa. [10:53]
mircea_popescu it's like, "take the lowest quartile of this population, let it reproduce with the lower quartile of that population, see what you get" [10:54]
mircea_popescu i dunno, flying mice ? [10:54]
asciilifeform subsahara aha [10:54]
asciilifeform coming soon to an africa near you. [10:54]
mircea_popescu that's the thing various derps dun wanna say. sure, numerically, 500mn europe, what does it care about 5mn immigrants. [10:55]
asciilifeform 5mn snackbat cox tho [10:56]
asciilifeform snackbar [10:56]
mircea_popescu well, it cares, because that 500mn europe has a 1.x children per woman, and 90% of them are made with idiots, and the 5mn are... also idiots. once you start looking at the actual demographic breakdown, it couldn't really take 50k of the derps. [10:56]
asciilifeform incidentally i wonder if tatar rape therapy even works any moar - many (most?) of the prospective 'patients' take steroidal bc pill... [10:57]
mircea_popescu wouldn't work, no. [10:57]
asciilifeform so then. [10:57]
mircea_popescu what, you were under the impression i was proposing solutions ? [10:57]
mircea_popescu i'm just explaining why i'd rather kandahar than holland is all. [10:58]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-11-2015#1324872 << thread [10:58]
assbot Logged on 15-11-2015 16:37:59; mircea_popescu: and em-poor-en. [10:58]
asciilifeform nah they do solutions in the solution house. [10:59]
asciilifeform on mars. [10:59]
asciilifeform here on earth we do: problemz [10:59]
mircea_popescu 2015 europe had 5mn live births. selected for suckage. add 5mn from outside, idem selected, suddenly it looks like it is. [10:59]
* asciilifeform bbl, mounting stake [11:00]
mircea_popescu and mind you, the idiocy is quite infectious. they way they state it is that "eu-28 showed signs of increasing fertility but the trend reversed". [11:00]
mircea_popescu irl, "romania, poland et all didn't have the problem - until they joined eu". [11:00]
mircea_popescu because yes, romania poland et all did have a sort-of, "i made you an' ima kill you, now go learn that fucking multiplication table". again, until "aquis" [11:00]
mircea_popescu they say it in latin, too, as if that makes eau d'idiot something valuable now. [11:01]
mircea_popescu the "aquis", the codified idiocy we've slowly coallesced into gallows. [11:01]
mircea_popescu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/11414064/How-Europe-is-slowly-dying-despite-an-increasing-world-population.html << great map there. who doesn't have the problem ? oh, the uk, because [11:02]
assbot How Europe is slowly dying despite an increasing world population - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWxI4q ) [11:02]
mircea_popescu !s rotherham [11:02]
assbot 15 results for 'rotherham' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rotherham [11:02]
mircea_popescu and france. because hey, same deal, no press. [11:02]
mircea_popescu i thought i had written up irreversible, but apparently not ? anyway, http://hollywoodabuse.com/monica-belluccis-anal-rape-scene/ [11:08]
assbot Monica Bellucci’s anal rape scene ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhYXXW ) [11:08]
mircea_popescu that poor woman, she's done no film without a rape scene in it. if there ever was an actor that actually answered to the higher call of the profession, it's probably her. and yet people will readily ignore the point and focus on anything and everything, "hey, random stupid broad with nothing to say wants us to buy detergent!" [11:09]
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assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 03:25:36; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430137 << getting out of bed every day is a fucking compromise for me. [11:11]
PeterL BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/46717797-1efb-4cde-bd4c-a6674a46e32a/?raw=true [11:17]
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danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430365 << mega-l0l!!! [11:40]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 13:05:46; mircea_popescu: ;;ud fp [11:40]
danielpbarron i assume he meant fingerprint, as in the gpg variety [11:41]
mircea_popescu hehe [11:43]
PeterL mircea_popescu re:map of birthrates, any explanation for why thailand is so low? the other low places are japan and europe, which have been developed for a while, thailand seems an outlier [11:51]
mircea_popescu i'm entirely unsure. ladyboys ? [11:52]
mircea_popescu thailand is a pretty interesting case - back in the 90s it seemed very well positioned to become a tech superpower. then... fizzled, somehow. korea won. [11:53]
PeterL could also just be where they put the cutoff for the colors, thailand barely makes the bottom category, US and canada are barely into the next color [11:54]
thestringpuller eventually birthrate -> 0 and we have children of men? [11:54]
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mircea_popescu PeterL aha. [12:03]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller no, eventually birthrate -> .5 and we forgot this particular hittite empire ever existed, just like all the other ones. [12:04]
mircea_popescu not like it made anything that'd be remembered once it stops paying for the service. [12:04]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430497 << stopped how ? [12:56]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 14:12:45; nubbins`: i assumed this was "normal" until it just stopped happening one day [12:56]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump will win the 2016 United States Presidential Election - http://bitbet.us/bet/1250/donald-trump-will-win-the-2016-united-states/#b39 [13:19]
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kakobrekla http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/40505.html [14:20]
assbot mjg59 | I stayed in a hotel with Android lightswitches and it was just as bad as you'd imagine ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWTgxS ) [14:20]
shinohai why does lightswitch need to know whoami ? [14:22]
PeterL shinohai so they can display personalized ads all around you [14:25]
thestringpuller haha! [14:25]
shinohai adblock for lightswitches and toasters. [14:28]
BingoBoingo if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. << yeah, this way he prolly gets 20-27% of general election vote, GOP nominee gets 20-27% of vote, and Clitler gets 51.5% [14:32]
shinohai https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/708289009873784832 [14:42]
PeterL In Mich if you are on a primary ballot, you cannot be listed as an independent or other party for the general, I had to write in Gary Johnson in 2012 [14:43]
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trinque http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/10/apple-fbi-could-force-us-to-turn-on-iphone-cameras-microphones << check out Apple dropping hints [15:00]
assbot FBI could force us to turn on iPhone cameras and microphones, says Apple | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1pkIQyn ) [15:00]
trinque could my ass [15:00]
asciilifeform 'nsa could force us to capture packets' -- at&t [15:01]
trinque so now we'll have "had the debate" as per BingoBoingo, and the above will be overt SOP [15:01]
asciilifeform 'farmer could force us to live in own shit' -- pigs [15:01]
asciilifeform 'shit could force us to eat it' -- fly [15:02]
trinque lol [15:02]
PeterL asciilifeform re:quiet computer, have you considered having big computer in basement, using a chrombox-like thing as a silent terminal? [15:02]
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asciilifeform PeterL: i have no basement. [15:03]
PeterL well, closet far from chair? [15:03]
asciilifeform or i'd have run dvi-over-fiber long ago [15:03]
PeterL attic? [15:03]
asciilifeform i don't have a proper place for this. [15:03]
asciilifeform at all. [15:03]
asciilifeform attic is not hermetically sealed. [15:03]
asciilifeform very high humidity there, year round. [15:04]
asciilifeform and megatonnes of dirt blowing in. [15:04]
PeterL I guess this just goes back to thread on "your rent (per sqft) is too damn high" [15:04]
asciilifeform this is only half the story [15:04]
asciilifeform in places where it is lower, the pay is ALSO lowe. [15:05]
asciilifeform r [15:05]
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asciilifeform and outside of MAJOR population centers, there is ZERO work for folks like me. [15:05]
asciilifeform but to go back to the question, it is a ludicrous 'dirigible' solution [15:07]
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asciilifeform a machined copper heat sink might be costly, [15:07]
asciilifeform but at least it would not be a RECURRING cost. [15:07]
asciilifeform INTO ETERNITY [15:07]
asciilifeform wtf. [15:07]
asciilifeform why the fuck would i rent a gigantic mansion just to silence computer. [15:08]
asciilifeform why not put it in an airplane then. [15:08]
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asciilifeform yes, possibly mircea_popescu's pc is in orbit. [15:09]
asciilifeform and the terminal - is kept in a slavegurl's arse. [15:10]
asciilifeform but this is not a useful recipe to me. [15:10]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 00:10:56; asciilifeform: no one wants to LIVE badly enough [15:10]
asciilifeform why not put out their eyes. [15:11]
asciilifeform so they can see even less broken ! [15:11]
asciilifeform !s room would be empty [15:11]
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deedbot- [Qntra] "Honest" Soap Scandal Deepens: A Chemist Speaks - http://qntra.net/2016/03/honest-soap-scandal-deepens-a-chemist-speaks/ [15:13]
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BingoBoingo I'm indifferent to it [15:30]
BingoBoingo Aha, this is why it can be an irritant [15:31]
BingoBoingo Skin's a tricky thing [15:32]
BingoBoingo But yeah, eyes really need their film [15:33]
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* BingoBoingo doesn't understand what was so wrong about lye soap [15:39]
asciilifeform so ~that's~ what was in evil soap [15:41]
asciilifeform i have a list of soaps that ughh won'twashoff [15:41]
asciilifeform not to ever buy. [15:41]
BingoBoingo Yes, it is in all of the evil soaps [15:44]
asciilifeform at least room temperature cheese one will never buy by chance. [15:45]
BingoBoingo But detergent pretending to be honest soap hides well [15:52]
BingoBoingo until wet [15:52]
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BingoBoingo Won a "comedy hack day" prize https://archive.is/9ZwAW [16:09]
assbot New App Splits Meal Bills So White Males Pay Extra for Their Privilege | Alternet ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH5pcg ) [16:09]
pete_dushenski l0l [16:10]
pete_dushenski i guess from now on massa is just gonna pick up the tab for his slaves [16:10]
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pete_dushenski https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600980/a-bitcoin-style-currency-for-central-banks/ << prb-fork contender [16:13]
assbot A Bitcoin-Style Currency for Central Banks ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH6gKf ) [16:13]
pete_dushenski http://www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/G.Danezis/papers/ndss16currencies.pdf << related lolpaper [16:15]
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pete_dushenski da fuck is '$xxx' gonna do to raise a child ? [16:16]
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mircea_popescu jesus freenode is fucking useless is it. [20:40]
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shinohai communism at it's finest. [20:43]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'A huge difference: In the former Soviet block an academic scientist published in order to satisfy the party commissars of his/her proper and productive use of funds dispensed by the government. In western countries an academic scientist publishes in order to demonstrate to grant review committee members his/her proper and productive use of funds dispensed by government-funded gr [20:45]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430529 <<< i would be very surprised if clinton gets 30%. [20:45]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 17:32:25; BingoBoingo: if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. << yeah, this way he prolly gets 20-27% of general election vote, GOP nominee gets 20-27% of vote, and Clitler gets 51.5% [20:45]
asciilifeform ant agencies. ' [20:45]
asciilifeform lel [20:45]
mircea_popescu 20-something's written on her foreheads. [20:45]
asciilifeform i will be very surprised if clitler doesn't get 90%. [20:45]
asciilifeform by dieboldian fiat, naturally [20:45]
asciilifeform but i like surprises. [20:46]
mircea_popescu this is how teenagers end up shaving their head. [20:46]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The US major socialist party, as designated by qntra, gets that designation because its affliated voters actually vote the party line [20:46]
asciilifeform i thought it was so the electrodes stick [20:46]
mircea_popescu used to. currently, the bottom fell out, and the local nigglets are pissed off. [20:47]
BingoBoingo permitted 3rd party and independent candidates nearly always bleed voters from US minor socialist party [20:47]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430537 << methinks you may be on to something. [20:47]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 18:01:59; trinque: so now we'll have "had the debate" as per BingoBoingo, and the above will be overt SOP [20:47]
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mircea_popescu problem being that every tard out there already "feels like he's secretly in a movie", so this, much like gestapo stuff generally, is well desired by the genpop. [20:48]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'll have to think of an axis on which to turn artifact news. [20:49]
BingoBoingo by dieboldian fiat, naturally << The beauty of the diebold rigging is the 53% mandate makes things look contested while still ensuring safety for the most scaled lizards [20:50]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/03/honest-soap-scandal-deepens-a-chemist-speaks/ << this is not so bad as a starter peterl but a) why do you discuss yourself in the 3rd person and b) why is it so aside ? [20:51]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: electoral reprogramming is not to prevent the mythical 'politican does untoward thing' but rather the milder catastrophe of 'SAYS untoward thing' [20:51]
assbot "Honest" Soap Scandal Deepens: A Chemist Speaks | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QKZrnM ) [20:51]
mircea_popescu think about yourself as a reader. then read it. is the piece all it could have been ? [20:51]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: a trump would be electable if he could be certain of not picking up the microphone and prattling about rothchildren [20:52]
asciilifeform *if they could be certain of him not [20:52]
mircea_popescu i find this proposition that there actually exists a us elite utterly hysterical. [20:52]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You're confusing Trump the character and Trump the actor [20:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is not a us elite and has not been since... rockfeller ? [20:53]
asciilifeform but there is elite. [20:53]
asciilifeform '"With high demand from all corners of the globe, collectors must be certain of provenance before purchasing. I urge dealers and auction houses to take every necessary precaution to avoid facilitating the sale of cultural heritage stolen from other civilizations. If a provenance is in doubt, report it to law enforcement authorities."' [20:54]
asciilifeform ^ translation: only APPROVED thieves may steal. [20:54]
asciilifeform 'The investigation has also identified Subhash Kapoor, who is currently in custody in India awaiting trial for allegedly looting tens of millions of dollars' worth of rare antiquities from several nations. The trails of looted artifacts have been traced all around the world. Within the past twelve months, four domestic museums and one major collector have partnered with HSI to surrender illic [20:55]
asciilifeform it cultural property stemming from Kapoor.' [20:55]
asciilifeform ^ translation: a thief's license has been cancelled by hitler, he is to be dekulakized. [20:55]
BingoBoingo aha [20:56]
asciilifeform 'Since 2007, more than 8,000 artifacts have been returned to 30 countries, including paintings from France, Germany, Poland and Austria ...' << translation: usg muppet regimes need to eat, why not subsidize them cheaply by helping them to sell their art sphincter virginity multiple times [20:57]
asciilifeform france sells, usg knocks buyer on the head, sends $rembrandt back... rinse, repeat. [20:57]
mircea_popescu heh [20:57]
mircea_popescu how exactly were 8000 items stolen from n countries ? [20:57]
asciilifeform by being peacefully sold to unsuspecting sacrificial goats ? [20:58]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430635 << nude fridays, too. [20:58]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 20:07:10; thestringpuller: "we should have wine at work every friday" - the girls in my department [20:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: we have booze here at $rupturefarm [20:58]
asciilifeform it dun help. [20:58]
asciilifeform i open various cabinets in search of office supplies and keep finding liquor. [20:58]
mircea_popescu yeah wel lyou don't work at webstack firm. [20:59]
asciilifeform what do they have there? heroin ? [20:59]
mircea_popescu sluts. [20:59]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430662 << he's like an impenetrable wall. [21:00]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 20:34:41; asciilifeform: jurov: the beast is not bleeding. it moved coin from its left pocket to right. [21:00]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430671 << let me generally say that you're about in the position of afghan boy who grew up in village of men and goats opining about cunts. your ideas about "the usg", while no doubt meaningful and coherent in your own perspective, are pure metaphysics. [21:02]
assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 20:37:55; asciilifeform: fiat isn't btc, nobody walks away with irretrievable 100m. [21:02]
asciilifeform so show me the light, mircea_popescu : swift is a reversible fiat thing. no? [21:03]
mircea_popescu i'm thoroughly exhausted all patience trying to engage the thing, so let's just let you live in your own world and mark once and forever that i lend it exactly the aforementioned credence. [21:03]
asciilifeform and so if it turns out that 100m moved from a to b, and b stole, can just as easily return to a by hitlerian decree ? [21:03]
mircea_popescu i'm not engaging that particular insanity any further. [21:03]
asciilifeform 'you are wrong and your picture of universe is retarded but i won't say why' ? [21:04]
asciilifeform mega-argument. [21:04]
mircea_popescu "you are lacan. your picture of the universe is complete and unrelated to any extant universe. have fun with it." [21:05]
mircea_popescu and note that this is no argument ; this is a judgement. [21:05]
asciilifeform so the reversibility of swift and it having master control panel is not a fact of the universe we live in ? [21:05]
mircea_popescu arguments are neither possible nor interesting. [21:05]
* asciilifeform would liek to visit mircea_popescu's world but it doesn't sell tickets afaik. [21:07]
mircea_popescu well, like is like, can is can. [21:08]
asciilifeform ..? [21:08]
mircea_popescu the path to mp world starts by now fucking having an opinion about how swift works when you've sent a grand total of... 0 ? 10 ? what is it ? [21:08]
mircea_popescu and no, "ach" bs is not swift. [21:09]
asciilifeform i will readily admit that i have not one iota of a clue re: how it works, other than it being not-bitcoin. [21:09]
asciilifeform and thereby subject to retconning if 'international komyooonity' wills it [21:09]
mircea_popescu so you're engaging in intricate description of an item you've never seen. you need explanation of why this is psychotic ? [21:09]
asciilifeform not intricate, but particular hypothesis [21:10]
mircea_popescu hypothesis ? [21:10]
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asciilifeform i.e. that if zimbabwe gets a swift of x, and usg decides that this ought not have happened, it can be reversed. [21:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu will tell me that this is not so ? [21:11]
mircea_popescu i'm sorry, the name for what you put out is not "hypothesis", it's justification. [21:11]
asciilifeform well is it true ? [21:11]
mircea_popescu there is no possibility of truth in your system. [21:11]
mircea_popescu it can not be true or false. as long as it's what you need to believe, it'll be there. [21:11]
asciilifeform is it because i cannot access the priors ? [21:11]
mircea_popescu because you aren't in control of the cognitive process that involves it. [21:11]
asciilifeform actually i am ready to believe that it is - or is not - true, if it could be anchored to actual priors that i have. [21:12]
mircea_popescu mno. you are ready to either accept it as a valid justification, or else accept it as a justification that needs futher justification. [21:12]
asciilifeform of what ? [21:12]
mircea_popescu of nothing. [21:13]
mircea_popescu justification, it's a psych term of art. [21:13]
asciilifeform but justification is ~of~ something, no ? [21:13]
mircea_popescu not exactly. [21:13]
mircea_popescu justification is the verbiage produced in response to inquiry. [21:13]
asciilifeform e.g., of krishna existing, or whatnot [21:13]
mircea_popescu "why did you steal ?" "i had to i didnt really steal it wasn't me"| [21:14]
asciilifeform so then it is of being caught with the goods, no ? [21:14]
mircea_popescu "but you did take the thing and put it up your ass" "yes but no it wasn't a thing not my ass not me" [21:14]
asciilifeform the thief's justification is ~of~ something [21:14]
mircea_popescu mno. [21:14]
mircea_popescu it's the response to the question ; it only exists with the question, dies with the last echo of the question. it has no factual basis. [21:15]
asciilifeform and if i ask a fella what he had for dinner, his reponse also dies with the question, no ? [21:16]
mircea_popescu mno. the policeman looks at the item, and asks question. the psychotic thief looks AT THE POLICEMAN and "answers" question. [21:16]
mircea_popescu there's no meeting there, one's lost in his own mind. [21:16]
asciilifeform but i think i know what mircea_popescu was trying to explain to me, that my notion of how swift works is static in disconnected antenna plug ? [21:17]
mircea_popescu your "notion of how swift works" has absolutely nothing to do with swift, working or notions, and everything to do with you justifying your own theft which happened to touch of swift so now yhou have a "hypothesis" about that. [21:17]
mircea_popescu had it touched elephants, you'd have a justification about elephant anatomy, just as well. [21:18]
asciilifeform which theft ? [21:19]
mircea_popescu that is not a question i can actually answer, i don't know you well enough [21:19]
asciilifeform i mean, pretty much my whole existence is a theft [21:19]
mircea_popescu besides this should be 1/4btc per hour and i should have a sofa./ [21:19]
asciilifeform l0l [21:19]
asciilifeform cheap! [21:19]
mircea_popescu all my life i've been shockingly cheap. [21:19]
asciilifeform i would buy, at this rate ! [21:20]
mircea_popescu if i ever move to portland and open a shrink practice ima send you a flyer. [21:20]
asciilifeform please be sure to install a suitable sofa ! [21:20]
mircea_popescu but the wonder is that you manage to maintain this weird somehow encapsulated while writing code. one would find the notion improbable, on the face, but then again i've read said code. [21:22]
mircea_popescu hopefully the barrier lasts. [21:22]
asciilifeform why is this a wonder [21:22]
asciilifeform i dun get it [21:22]
mircea_popescu clinical experience. [21:22]
mircea_popescu i get it, "for me it's always been this way". [21:22]
asciilifeform what would the code look like if this were not so ? [21:23]
mircea_popescu uhh [21:23]
asciilifeform i get what mircea_popescu is saying, 'the man is a lunatic but somehow capable of engineering sanely' [21:23]
mircea_popescu this is actually a great question. [21:23]
mircea_popescu nah, lunacy is not this. [21:23]
asciilifeform but i would like to see why mircea_popescu considers the code - sane, and my picture of the rest - not. [21:24]
asciilifeform i could, for instance, be readily persuaded that ~all~ of my works are of insanity. [21:24]
mircea_popescu but anyway - i suppose the first symtpom of the barrier giving way is when you start including specific amulet comments [21:24]
asciilifeform wtf is an amulet comment [21:25]
mircea_popescu what's your definition of an amulet ? [21:25]
asciilifeform a device of sympathetic magic ? [21:25]
mircea_popescu basically. spurious item of presumed physical effectiveness predicated on the basis of metaphysical considerations. [21:26]
asciilifeform aha [21:26]
asciilifeform so a comment containing a prayer to vishnu, say ? [21:26]
mircea_popescu yo9u know, like #this code copyright [21:26]
mircea_popescu for instance. [21:26]
asciilifeform this is amulet, but mircea_popescu's anarchist license, is not ? [21:27]
asciilifeform as i see it, both are essentially decorative [21:27]
mircea_popescu yes, they are. for as long as they're decorative, it's one thing. [21:27]
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asciilifeform having more or less same status as, e.g., #8=======> [21:27]
mircea_popescu once they become necessary and "necessarily effectual", it gets iffy [21:27]
mircea_popescu in any case - lunacy is not here contemplated. lunacy is actually in practice a very high bar of achievement. you're just weird, which is boringly common, especially in accomplished folks. [21:28]
asciilifeform i can only aspire to the high bar. [21:29]
mircea_popescu (technically speaking, the mp license is actually an anti-amulet, in the sense that it makes life impossible for a certain sort of lunatic. inasmuch as its effectiveness is not predicated on metaphysical but on quite physical considerations, it's just a virus.) [21:30]
asciilifeform but is this property not itself amuletronic ? [21:30]
asciilifeform it cannot all by itself 'make life impossible' for anyone. [21:30]
mircea_popescu no, but we do know how idiots think. [21:30]
asciilifeform and the old amulet was also calibrated for a certain kind of idiot [21:31]
asciilifeform whose thought processes were reasonably well known [21:31]
mircea_popescu mind, selling amulets is a trade like any other trade. wearing them is what was being discussed. [21:31]
asciilifeform anyway i don't do amulets, much as mircea_popescu is convinced of this. i ~might~ entertain laughably inaccurate hypothesis about whatevers, when i have no access (unlike to the inside of a computer) to the priors. [21:32]
mircea_popescu that's not the proper approach there. consider that you'd "entertain laughably innacurate hypothesis" about a) things that really make no difference to you ; b) with which you have absolutely no experience and c) that have exactly nothing in common with a hypothesis and everything in common with an article of faith. [21:34]
asciilifeform who is to say what makes a difference to me. [21:34]
mircea_popescu you could trivially test this swift hypothesis of yours you know - wire a grand to the next nigerian to visit your inbox then write to your bank to reverse it. [21:34]
asciilifeform ~i~ don't get to reverse it ! [21:34]
asciilifeform never said this. [21:34]
mircea_popescu oh i see. [21:34]
asciilifeform the system's owner gets to. [21:34]
asciilifeform which is neither me nor the other schmuck. [21:35]
mircea_popescu is he the elite ? [21:35]
asciilifeform whoever he answers to, is sorta definitionally elite, no? [21:35]
mircea_popescu ex post facto. [21:35]
mircea_popescu it's a trope of fiction, all this. [21:36]
mircea_popescu which whatever, everyone needs a hobby. [21:36]
asciilifeform care to possibly give a brief picture of the reality ? [21:37]
asciilifeform or what, 'your puny brain cannot digest it ' ? [21:37]
mircea_popescu the reality of what ? [21:37]
asciilifeform of swift. [21:37]
mircea_popescu why not read the documentation ? [21:38]
mircea_popescu it's remarkably open and well documented for a fiat banking thing. [21:38]
asciilifeform why not read nsa.gov to learn which hdd firmwares are buggered ? [21:38]
mircea_popescu it's a protocol you know. [21:38]
asciilifeform or what, swift operators swore to vishnu to tell the truth and only the complete truth ? [21:38]
asciilifeform but yes, i will actually go and read. [21:39]
mircea_popescu so there's a meta-documentation that's secret and a faux documentation that's published ? [21:39]
* asciilifeform bbl. [21:39]
mircea_popescu same could be said about fucking css. [21:39]
mircea_popescu (actually, amusingly enough, swift docs date from just about the era ada was fashionable. there was such a time - just like that time in the 90s when everyone was eager to implement linux-y things and you didn't really have to sell it at all, whole cities just switched for no reason) [21:40]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430725 << epic line. [21:41]
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mircea_popescu jesus, this sls thing is pretty big huh. [23:20]
mod6 wassat? [23:20]
mircea_popescu some soap ingredient. [23:20]
mod6 ah [23:20]
mircea_popescu apparently the etsy chicks are getting militant. [23:20]
mod6 heh [23:20]
mircea_popescu i suppose in another decade there won't be a way to buy soap. [23:21]
mod6 have to make our own. [23:21]
mod6 al la fight club. [23:22]
mircea_popescu it's this fashion thing, i guess every third unemployed/able chick is making artisanal soap these days. [23:47]
mircea_popescu in a sense i can see it, must be satisfying to actually MAKE something in postsociety. [23:47]
mircea_popescu but you really have to be retarded to imagine a ploy to claim industrial production is bad isn't obviously transparent and deeply ineffectual. [23:48]
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mircea_popescu https://www.quora.com/Who-will-win-the-Bitcoin-blocksize-war << nothing quite like 15 month old derpage. [23:53]
assbot Who will win the Bitcoin blocksize war? - Quora ... ( http://bit.ly/1pCzfTk ) [23:54]
mod6 heheh [23:55]
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* asciilifeform is in b0rked car waiting for crane [23:55]
mircea_popescu o.o what happened ? crash ? [23:55]
asciilifeform nah [23:55]
mod6 asciilifeform: did you say you were using gnat to link ada object flies? [23:55]
asciilifeform mega-orc problem - iron rebar hook in parking lot of shady restaurant, gutted bumper ~on way out~ [23:56]
asciilifeform like fish. [23:56]
asciilifeform srsly the sheet zimbabwe [23:57]
mircea_popescu nuts. [23:57]
asciilifeform *sheer [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00052824 = 5.0711 BTC [+] {5} [23:57]
mircea_popescu i don't get it, who has spare rebar hooks ? what ? [23:57]
asciilifeform crumbling concrete [23:58]
mircea_popescu o brother. [23:58]
mircea_popescu are you suing ? :D [23:58]
asciilifeform l0l! [23:58]
mircea_popescu maybe enjoy some um bongo in the interim ? [23:58]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYj5o4kQsXs [23:59]
assbot Um Bongo Orginal Advert - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1pCzCgE ) [23:59]
* asciilifeform tunes in [23:59]
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