Forum logs for 09 Feb 2017

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mircea_popescu: bwahaha. "just as hot as back home, except lots and lots of animals to save!" [00:00]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/kings-bounty-reloaded-mages-still-rule/ << Trilema - King's Bounty Reloaded - Mages Still Rule [01:47]
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=6528 [02:30]
BingoBoingo: http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8741 [02:45]
phf: ^ reminds me of a 90s ru joke, a "new russian" (i.e. mobster) is showing off a piano in his giant mansion lobby. so the friend goes "you know how to play it?" "no, but i got some egghead stopping by tonight to show me how" [03:20]
mircea_popescu: lel. [07:36]
mircea_popescu: and in other clams'n'snails, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb4h6snWex1rg58a9o6_500.gif [07:38]
mircea_popescu: "Boston University's Charles River Campus is cancelling daytime and evening classes on Thursday, February 9, 2017 as of 6:00 AM. All academic and administrative activities (e.g. classes, seminars, student activities and meetings) that are scheduled to take place are cancelled." << global warming gave boston a winter storm the likes of which was rarely seen. [07:45]
mircea_popescu: 20 inches of snow apparently. [07:46]
* shinohai reads latest trilema, waits for mircea_popescu to tip fedora [10:31]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-plumbin-plumber/ << Trilema - The Plumbin' Plumber [10:34]
thestringpuller: Why are OpenSSL types so ridiculous to work with? EC_KEY needs to plug into BIO which has to plug into TTY before you can even print the thing to stdout or a string. [10:42]
thestringpuller: libsecp256k1 is even worse from what little glances of it [10:42]
asciilifeform: in other olds, [11:03]
asciilifeform: 'Another unsuccessful rocket torpedo inventor was Patrick Cunningham, an Irish immigrant who earned his living as a shoe maker and repairer in New Bedford, Massachusetts. Samples were tested for several years at NTS but the short range and wholly unpredictable trajectory destined this weapon for the scrap heap. However, in one last fling of exuberance, Cunningham fired his torpedo down the main street of his home town it roared along [11:04]
asciilifeform: her’s shop where it burned down the ice room.' [11:04]
asciilifeform: ...roared along at very high speed before coming to rest in the butcher’s shop where it burned down the ice room.' [11:05]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [11:38]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 986.0, vol: 22398.26328720 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 968.483, vol: 15891.5575 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 979.07, vol: 50196.59104347 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 996.632, vol: 27158.27450000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 983.136, vol: 5954.70531136 | Volume-weighted last average: 983.084341579 [11:38]
mircea_popescu: sounds very maga-ish [11:45]
asciilifeform: in other lulzies, http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/02/09/27 [12:34]
mircea_popescu: bweahahaha knights for socialism, bash the fash, leftist fight club ? epic. [12:36]
asciilifeform: 'We found a few extended regex expressions in GNU libc that will crash or abort the execution of regcomp or regexec. For instance: \a?{1,32767} will immediately exhaust the stack calling calc_eclosure_iter in the compilation. A small variation of this regex is: \a?{0,32767} will consume a very large amount of memory: it seems to eat 16GB in less than a minute. It is also possible to exhaust the stack memory trying to parse...' [12:37]
mircea_popescu: lel [12:45]
mircea_popescu: apparently "enclosure calculation" is a fundamental braindamage of ustards ? [12:45]
asciilifeform: drepper is a 'ustard' ? [12:48]
mircea_popescu: buncha fosstards "reviewed" thje code yes ? [12:52]
asciilifeform: incidentally -- there is more to this crapolade than meets the naked eye. regexp is a fundamentally braindamaged concept -- not only in the way described by naggum (how do you infer false positives?) but also in the haskellian idiocy where 'reasonable' and 'thermonuclear self-annihilation' programs look nearly identical, and distinguishing them is np-hard [12:53]
asciilifeform: ( see also, http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3182471178876789@naggum.net.html ) [12:56]
mircea_popescu: wut do ? [12:59]
asciilifeform: the expulsion of 'In all likelihood, there was no change at all to the labor-intensiveness, but the labor was more "fun" for a certain class of people. Now, industrious retards can be a horrible thing. Over a number of years, close to a decade, Perl accreted bits and pieces from programming languages and became usable in lieu of a programming language by people who lacked the mental wherewithall to do programming. Tinkerers, repair [13:03]
asciilifeform: ers, handymen, the auto mechanics of the IT industry, all flocked to Perl because they could tinker so well with it with no required knowledge or skills.' ( http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3241270848355795@naggum.no.html ) would go a long way. [13:03]
asciilifeform: regex belongs in the tool chest next to 'duct tape'. [13:04]
mircea_popescu: so you want no regexp ? [13:30]
asciilifeform: certainly not as part of any permanent public structure. [13:35]
asciilifeform: any moar than 'superglue'. [13:35]
asciilifeform: it is properly a 'harem object'. [13:35]
asciilifeform: rather like that tape that one uses to keep car muffler from falling down on the way to the welder's shop. [13:36]
thestringpuller: duct tape is useful for actual ducting... [13:41]
thestringpuller: ventilation et. al. [13:42]
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i love the way the comments work on your blog. brilliant! [13:44]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-plumber-rampant/ << Trilema - The Plumber Rampant [13:46]
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> duct tape is useful for actual ducting... << NO!!! For that you need a Mastic Ducting tape! [14:59]
BingoBoingo: Common "Duct tape" is too vulnerable to temperature fluctuations and decomposition to be useful on ducts [15:00]
mircea_popescu: i thought mastic was for sniffing [15:03]
BingoBoingo: mastic is an entire class of stuff [15:04]
BingoBoingo: But yes, generally sniffable [15:04]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: just when you thought this can't get any lulzier: '...resource exhaustion issues which can be triggered only with crafted patterns (either during compilation or execution) are not treated as security bugs.' ( https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Security%20Exceptions ) [15:14]
mircea_popescu: fucking epic. so - putin asks trump about extending the START, trump says it's a bullshit deal. [15:22]
BingoBoingo: lol [15:23]
BingoBoingo: MWGA! [15:23]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nice heh. [15:23]
mircea_popescu: in other somewhat lulz, https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2017/01/25/12/trump-abortion-2.jpg [15:37]
mircea_popescu: teh lady doth protest, but she looks unconvinced. [15:37]
asciilifeform: ..that's a woman??! [15:37]
mircea_popescu: lotta these ^ shaped mouths on fatties in attendance huh [15:38]
mircea_popescu: sorta suggests pelagic fish to me. *nom* [15:38]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/pboc-coordinates-action-among-chinese-fiatbitcoin-interfaces-again-anti-money-laundering-being-pushed/ << Qntra - PBOC Coordinates Action Among Chinese fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Again: Anti-Money Laundering Being Pushed [15:42]
BingoBoingo: ^ Original People's Republic seems to want to Bahamas [15:43]
mircea_popescu: by some strange law of conservation there's always an idiot in the room. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: apparently it's ~really~ hard to learn from what happened to mrs pantsuits. [15:44]
BingoBoingo: Hard to formulate a law of idiocy when well of idiocy is too deep to explore. [15:47]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/internet-transit-provider-cogent-communications-blocking-pirate-sites/ << Qntra - Internet Transit Provider Cogent Communications Blocking Pirate Sites [16:13]
mircea_popescu: apparently there's such a thing as hashbang.sh [16:27]
mircea_popescu: some kind of non-republican uci attempt ? [16:29]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun see anything 'uci' about it -- looks like a script that serves up a shell? 1990s parlour trick [17:13]
asciilifeform: ( and, unsurprisingly, lives and dies by linux's attempt at userland process separation ) [17:26]
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8D4Xi/?raw=true << lisp folks, shouldn't this work? [17:41]
trinque: the connection in that slot is definitely eql to the one in the specializer [17:42]
trinque: kind gentleman in #lisp points out that the second arg ought to be a list [17:55]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/9th-circuit-refuses-to-reject-order-staying-trump-executive-action/ << Qntra - 9th Circuit Refuses To Reject Order Staying Trump Executive Action [19:17]
asciilifeform: soooo apparently they had fat-reddit back in ye olden dayz: http://www.trobar.org/troubadours/misc/anonymous_porquiera.php [19:55]
BingoBoingo: WIN!!! [19:58]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/43A6BC6935DFBEFB1C7F837052CA00BE7A794CB3CE8D8F5A05D7EE1DD7E1E007 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1527...8777 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.240.5.5 (ssh-rsa key from 77.240.5.5 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (anyterm.org. GB DBY ENG) [20:38]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/43A6BC6935DFBEFB1C7F837052CA00BE7A794CB3CE8D8F5A05D7EE1DD7E1E007 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1366...7609 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.240.5.5 (ssh-rsa key from 77.240.5.5 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (anyterm.org. GB DBY ENG) [20:38]
mircea_popescu: mirthful swineherd indeed [20:43]
mircea_popescu: holy shit the "this poem is not as cryptic" note is shocking. [20:51]
mircea_popescu: how can these people be so FUCKING STUPID omfg [20:51]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D89210ED57D5989FC16C7F33D5047D11E9F0BB4B382B8CBA66702A6492D5F4A9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1678...7003 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '210.5.53.30 (ssh-rsa key from 210.5.53.30 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown NZ AUK) [20:57]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D89210ED57D5989FC16C7F33D5047D11E9F0BB4B382B8CBA66702A6492D5F4A9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1445...5763 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '210.5.53.30 (ssh-rsa key from 210.5.53.30 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown NZ AUK) [20:57]
mircea_popescu: join #weechat [21:02]
mircea_popescu: that was a typo sorry :) was just checking the thing out. [21:07]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in odd news : https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xF82F4B16DEC408F8 wasn't in phuctor (i just added it manually). [21:07]
* shinohai <3's weechat [21:08]
asciilifeform: 'Have you ever wanted SSH or telnet access to your system from an “internet desert” - from behind a strict firewall, from an internet cafe, or even from a mobile phone? Anyterm is a combination of a web page and a process that runs on your web server that provides this access...' [21:08]
asciilifeform: lulzy [21:08]
mircea_popescu: or hm, strike that. i dunno why but the gpgfp/<fp> url 404'd for me. must have typoed it [21:08]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea is not without merit, whatever doubts in the implementation. [21:08]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: similar (i never used, however) is https://mosh.org [21:09]
asciilifeform: probably there are 1,001 of these. [21:10]
mircea_popescu: aha. our democracy will do nothing better than waste its resources. [21:10]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at pussygrabbing ranch, http://68.media.tumblr.com/bdca4e216571d0d234a97d25105b413e/tumblr_okmlsscQFn1v510bao1_500.gif [21:16]
shinohai: yummy [21:17]
mod6: niiice [21:17]
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C24LTjnWEAE0iN0.jpg << check it out, apparently the french have like, humour and like webcomics and everything just like normal people. [21:18]
mircea_popescu: they possibly even program computers. [21:18]
ben_vulpes: this is getting annoying. [21:30]
mircea_popescu: wassat ? [21:30]
ben_vulpes: quite regular with the disconnects [21:38]
shinohai: http://archive.is/oH9Gl <<< Cute, an Ethereum founder gonna fix Bitcoin. [21:38]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes oh you too ? [21:48]
mircea_popescu: !!up drews [21:48]
deedbot: drews voiced for 30 minutes. [21:48]
drews: yap [21:49]
mircea_popescu: aaand who might you be. [21:49]
drews: i want know who is owner of ihr.foundation [21:50]
mircea_popescu: i have no idea. [21:50]
ben_vulpes: !!up drews [22:32]
deedbot: drews voiced for 30 minutes. [22:32]
ben_vulpes: drews: mod6 operates thebitcoin.foundation, if you made that typo [22:32]
mircea_popescu: in other news, what the fuck is a "blockchain developer" [22:52]
mircea_popescu: i suppose lockheed martin is a gravity developer ? [22:53]
mircea_popescu: oh and in other lolz, i am apparently the first to have come up with "fakettorney" as far as google's concerned. [22:58]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9EE551BF5B1DBE96D10E616076AA99A617A5A85B75B421486AB5FB5D92E1C07D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1073...1643 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '222.222.34.219 (ssh-rsa key from 222.222.34.219 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (219.34.222.222.broad.sj.he.dynamic.163data.com.cn. CN 13) [23:16]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9EE551BF5B1DBE96D10E616076AA99A617A5A85B75B421486AB5FB5D92E1C07D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9870...7067 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '222.222.34.219 (ssh-rsa key from 222.222.34.219 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (219.34.222.222.broad.sj.he.dynamic.163data.com.cn. CN 13) [23:16]
BingoBoingo: OMG, NBC aired the word "tulpa" tonight! [23:49]
mircea_popescu: heh [23:58]
mircea_popescu: what'd they say ? [23:58]
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