Forum logs for 08 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu decimation i have my doubts re this entire calling shots thing, but whatevs. [00:08]
decimation well, 'calling the shots' as in 'appear vaguely threatening on twitter' [00:09]
mircea_popescu it is every adolescent boy's dearest dream and hottest hope to misrepresent himself as a shot-caller in company, [00:09]
decimation it seems likely that he either 'flagged' the post or knew a moderator who could [00:09]
mircea_popescu and it is every neotenic usian's highest aspiration, to remain a derpy adolescent way in his 50s [00:09]
decimation not exactly high in the social world if you think about it though [00:09]
mircea_popescu or fail that, it seems likely he typed words in a web box. [00:09]
decimation hehe yeah possibly [00:10]
decimation "this guy's a racist mmkay" [00:10]
mircea_popescu is yarvin even racist, other than simply being stupid ? [00:10]
decimation no, not really [00:10]
decimation I mean, he certainly affirms the falsehoods of egalitarianism [00:11]
mircea_popescu i thought racism was when you wouldn't fuck naomi campbell or shakira because you don't stick your junk in garbage. [00:11]
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decimation heh I guess, in which case I suspect a significant number of white males in the us would qualify [00:12]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, wtf's going on in the country of the fair ? back in the 80s they had superhot black supermodels and blondy madonna was tag teaming them with rappers [00:12]
mircea_popescu today ? who's the campbell of today so i'm not stuck using old prunes in my illustrative koans. [00:13]
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decimation you know it's a good point. somehow the whole 'multiracial marriage/dating' thing has gone way off the burner in the us [00:13]
decimation I mean, you are a racist if you think every human isn't identical, but not if you only date white girls [00:13]
decimation interestingly yarvin himself appeared in the thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9676813 [00:15]
assbot "He has *literally* written that several of his co-speakers are genetically more... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXeaO8 ) [00:15]
mircea_popescu i'm sure there must be a wankfest dedicated to this topic somewhere, purring in the basement waiting for its time to feed at the public trough [00:15]
decimation yeah the overton window hasn't extended there yet [00:15]
decimation "Frankly, I'm actually considering recanting. Who wouldn't rather be Galileo than Giordano Bruno? But recanting is a serious matter - it's the sort of thing you need to get right the first time." [00:15]
mircea_popescu attention whores trying to bilk attention out of attention whores ? [00:17]
mircea_popescu change channel plox ty. [00:17]
decimation hehe yeah [00:17]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156878 << imagine, if the identity theft protection thing stole your identity! [00:18]
assbot Logged on 07-06-2015 18:58:33; decimation: I suspect many of these 'free giveaways' for credit monitoring are merely trojan horse marketing schemes [00:18]
mircea_popescu and worked it like the old style porn scams, just keep billing all your ccs [00:18]
decimation yeah I think it kinda works that way actually [00:18]
decimation it's one of those things you can call up old ladies and sell to them [00:19]
mircea_popescu pretty cool. [00:19]
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mircea_popescu oglaf is becoming too hermetic for my meagre powers. [00:23]
mircea_popescu maybe i don't have enough sex [00:23]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156939 << as you can see, it doesn't do anything. [00:26]
assbot Logged on 07-06-2015 22:15:30; danielpbarron: ^ all the users idling in here with a key registered and 0 in assbot's l2 [00:26]
mircea_popescu and in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbj2k1jyfv1r2a4juo1_500.gif [00:31]
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decimation http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29256168/woman-who-claims-she-owns-the-sun-sues-ebay < lol crazy woman trying to sell the sun [00:41]
ben_vulpes !s sun [00:44]
ben_vulpes thought we did that one... [00:44]
decimation assbot is tits up [00:44]
decimation we did [00:44]
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decimation ben_vulpes: it wasn't in reference to this article, that's why I linked it [00:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49750 @ 0.0003496 = 17.3926 BTC [+] [00:55]
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scoopbot_revived Online Drug Trade Booming Despite Silk Road Shut Down & Ulbricht's Subsequent Life Sentence http://qntra.net/2015/06/online-drug-trade-booming-despite-silk-road-shut-down-ulbrichts-subsequent-life-sentence/ [01:17]
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asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/41C3308E5F375899710919E1484F78A1DC042B81EDDC432F38F75D4BDA9B29FC http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1F17004DE4055B78E6EC20B9D1F2B79991A64E281D38AEA492EF57949677A365 http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AD4C57403CECBEB77262D7BE6F1E4F9925E7A673AA8AA1A5971A1555B67C20AD http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/46857AF6ACB8BBE0C499CE03E1C876C2DC242B57C06D9E43F65B6B581A0E0F44 [01:21]
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mircea_popescu i feel very welcomed :D [01:21]
asciilifeform l0l [01:23]
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asciilifeform didn't somebody volunteer to weld that thing to #b-a ticker ? [01:26]
agorecki Why do I still have voice after an hour and a half? [01:26]
asciilifeform kakobrekla ? [01:26]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform william dunne [01:27]
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mircea_popescu agorecki you're special like that. [01:27]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157021 << the traditional form of the crime in usa involves borrowing gigantic sums in the victim's name [01:28]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 03:14:44; mircea_popescu: and worked it like the old style porn scams, just keep billing all your ccs [01:28]
asciilifeform (most u.s. folk aren't 'good' for much else scam-wise) [01:28]
asciilifeform notably, afaik in all states that have government lotteries, folks trying to quit gambling habit can ask themselves to be place on permanent list of folks who will never be allowed to claim winnings. but one cannot, apparently, do this for the mortgage racker. [01:30]
asciilifeform racket [01:30]
mircea_popescu lol [01:30]
asciilifeform i, for instance, would much like to publicly register as 'anyone who walks in with my name and slave serial number and tries to take a mortgage, ever, is to be shot immediately' [01:31]
mircea_popescu even if gpg signed ? [01:31]
asciilifeform aha [01:31]
mircea_popescu deedbot- < [01:31]
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asciilifeform that just means fucker killed me and took my key. [01:31]
scoopbot_revived The Pawnbroker http://trilema.com/2015/the-pawnbroker/ [01:31]
decimation asciilifeform: usia is not a land of 'exit' [01:38]
mircea_popescu protestant idiocy, this. [01:38]
asciilifeform for most of us, just one exit - up the chimney. [01:38]
mircea_popescu "you can never be expelled - ever!11" [01:38]
asciilifeform just like in that other usa. [01:38]
mircea_popescu tyvm, but maybe i wanna be expelled sometime. [01:38]
mircea_popescu aaaand in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma356gYq4S1qibgrlo1_1280.jpg [01:40]
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asciilifeform in other news, [01:43]
asciilifeform learned that you can still buy newly-minted cdp1802! [01:43]
asciilifeform http://www.intersil.com/en/products/space-and-harsh-environment/harsh-environment/microprocessors-and-peripherals/CDP1802A.html?pn=CDP1802A [01:43]
assbot CDP1802A ... ( http://bit.ly/1MAzN27 ) [01:43]
asciilifeform (bring heavy bag of usd) [01:44]
mircea_popescu they actually fly with them ?! [01:44]
asciilifeform since 1976. [01:44]
asciilifeform can get it on sapphire, too. [01:44]
asciilifeform had some very interesting features found, afaik, in no other cpu [01:47]
asciilifeform like defaulting to 'key instructions in by hand without glue logic for keypad' mode [01:47]
asciilifeform http://oldcomputers.net/rca-cosmac-vip.html << see also. [01:53]
assbot RCA COSMAC VIP ... ( http://bit.ly/1MAAus8 ) [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84800 @ 0.00034962 = 29.6478 BTC [+] {2} [02:09]
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mircea_popescu good mornin' assets! [11:43]
mircea_popescu is eulora nothing but a wall of claims yet ? [11:46]
jurov yes [11:47]
jurov bots are already considered [11:47]
mircea_popescu great. [11:48]
mircea_popescu ima put up a job later for irc/freenode integration in chat, just fyi. [11:48]
mod6 morning mircea_popescu [11:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00035127 = 9.4843 BTC [+] [11:55]
mircea_popescu awww and i thought it was surely going to break 40 [11:55]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157088 << ftr, worth a try. can be fun. [11:57]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 07:46:23; punkman: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/mormon-soaking.jpg [11:57]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157092 << bwahahaha ah shit! MY COVER! BLOWN! [11:58]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 08:30:28; jurov: it's not so hard to feel such after, say, reading trilema [11:58]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157097 << i can see this. make him live with half a dozen highschool dropouts and fuck them at least five times a day (each). a few weeks later... what radical omfg. [12:00]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 09:53:07; cazalla: fucking australia lol.. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jun/08/victoria-proposes-laws-to-force-potential-terrorists-into-deradicalisation-programs [12:00]
mircea_popescu gives employment to the otherwise useless schoolage aussies too. [12:00]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157102 << you're starting to get it! [12:01]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 10:21:33; shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/HqiVVtj.jpg [12:01]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157110 < ahahaha okkk [12:02]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 10:51:10; davout: "correction, charlie uniform november tango" [12:02]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157120 << yeah dude totally. buncha hitchhikers move into your house then they're all "dudes, just build your ALTERNATIVE HOUSE then we won't have to you knwo, go sleep in jail tonight" [12:03]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 12:31:07; wyrdmantis: "Bitcoin lords" : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/390i3d/block_size_conservatives_build_your_alternatives/crzbt2y [12:03]
mircea_popescu right. i can totally see this "argument". [12:03]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157127 << o.O [12:14]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 12:48:13; jurov: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far have 733k phathub rsa keys, of these 19 have factors 3,5,17 or 23 [12:14]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157138 << you basically running a phuctor-for-rsa on your own ? give it a site! [12:22]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 13:21:12; jurov: only interim results, it's still slurping the keys. ofc there will be writeup [12:22]
mircea_popescu shinohai shit son, that's her DAUGHTER is it ?! [12:24]
mircea_popescu win. [12:24]
shinohai Mother/daughter is the ultimate win if somehow you work yourself into that scenario. [12:24]
davout shinohai: right [12:25]
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mircea_popescu davout knows. [12:25]
davout more the "amplified nagging" side than the sexual one tbh [12:26]
jurov mircea_popescu: just slurping keys using github api and trying some small factor on them. i don't have capacity to full GCD [12:26]
mircea_popescu davout obv. [12:27]
mircea_popescu jurov a ok. well phuctor propers like what, 1/5 done or so. will add your lot then for sure. [12:27]
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mircea_popescu speaking of which, kinda interesting from an anthropological perspective that on one hand fucking your nubile daughter aside her mother in a steaming session is a closely held taboo, but generally speaking fucking OTHER PEOPLE's adolescent daughters is a closely held ideal. [12:30]
mircea_popescu basically if you have a gated community of people who all have 19 yo daughters, everybody has to sleep at the neighbour's! [12:31]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157181 << it doesn't need much [12:33]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 15:23:01; jurov: mircea_popescu: just slurping keys using github api and trying some small factor on them. i don't have capacity to full GCD [12:33]
mircea_popescu how's teh fields this fine morning alf ? [12:33]
ascii_field plough rusted, cleaning. [12:34]
mircea_popescu well, at least be thankful you're not one thousand chickens. [12:34]
ascii_field one of approximately 6 [12:36]
ascii_field (oxen) [12:36]
mircea_popescu hey, that used to be the golden standard historically! [12:36]
ascii_field jurov: in no case is trial division more efficient than gcd(n, product-of-a-bunch-of-primes) [12:40]
mircea_popescu he can get results of the form "which moduli divisible by 19" using less memory. [12:41]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: nearly same amount [12:41]
mircea_popescu well no because he doesn't have to keep the product [12:42]
jurov trying all first 10k primes on all keys still went in short time and got no bigger factors than 100 anyway [12:42]
mircea_popescu his report that there are no keys divisible by M kinda blew my mind [12:42]
ascii_field jurov: which keys were these again ? [12:42]
mircea_popescu he scrapped github [12:42]
jurov ssh pubkeys from github [12:42]
ascii_field Ah [12:42]
ascii_field neat [12:42]
mircea_popescu think about it alf. no M. how could this be. [12:43]
* ascii_field looks in log, does not find this [12:44]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157136 [12:44]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 13:17:23; jurov: interesting that 641 nor 6700417 appeared, only smaller primes [12:44]
mircea_popescu m is a composite of those two [12:44]
jurov moment. i have stopped trying at first found divisor [12:44]
ascii_field ah that m [12:44]
ascii_field l0l [12:44]
mircea_popescu which m didja think ?! [12:44]
jurov so it's possible they are still there [12:44]
ascii_field i doubt that we'll see the same 'mirroring' trick re: ssh keys, as it is a creature of the old-fashioned 32-bit fingerprint in pre-civilized pgptron [12:45]
ascii_field (at least, as an attack it makes sense there) [12:45]
mircea_popescu a number of explanations are readily available : a) M works on specific code that happened to be wrung out of openssh codebase somehow. differential reading of gpg and openssh should indicate it then, and patch history should show us who knows better. [12:45]
mircea_popescu b) M is really the product of breakage, that didn't occur there. or of trollage, that idem. [12:45]
ascii_field mircea_popescu, jurov: worth looking to see what, if anything, the small-factored ssh keys have in common [12:46]
mircea_popescu jurov oh i see. how hard would it be to try for 641 specifically ? then if found try 6700417 [12:48]
jurov i'm retrying for alll these primes [12:48]
jurov already got key id 11201072: factor [2, 17, 43, 47, 373, 443] [12:48]
jurov for example [12:48]
mircea_popescu aha. [12:48]
ascii_field jurov: i suggest hex dump of all of the small-factored moduli [12:48]
mircea_popescu well he said he was gonna do a write-up [12:49]
ascii_field you are very likely to notice patterns [12:49]
jurov yes, i should have all keys fetched in day or two [12:49]
jurov (it's running since june 2) [12:49]
jurov they have api limit 6000/hour [12:49]
ascii_field in related news, [12:50]
ascii_field http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/165282C95B75F85D6F34183B1B81B1BD242418AF1DFA83A0C71918B30A0511A6 and http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2B54188EC4A02DF01D9950B337AFFDD7247743792F797E17FC7E37E6C22AF733 [12:50]
assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1dXUF7V ) [12:50]
assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1dXUF83 ) [12:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00035273 = 8.9241 BTC [+] {2} [13:02]
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ascii_field http://www.retrotechnology.com/memship/mem_revH2.html << historical interest [13:08]
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ascii_field http://www.visual6502.org/wiki/index.php?title=RCA_1802E << moar re: same. [13:19]
assbot RCA 1802E - VisualChips ... ( http://bit.ly/1GuWW6V ) [13:19]
ascii_field http://home.earthlink.net/~schultdw/1802/datapath << yet moar. [13:21]
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jurov damn i miscalculated, github has 12m users, not 1.2m [14:03]
jurov this will go on for much longer time [14:03]
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punkman jurov, maybe ask that guy I linked for a bunch of them? [14:19]
punkman he was scraping for a year or something [14:19]
jurov bunch ot what? [14:19]
jurov *of [14:19]
punkman github keys [14:19]
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jurov yes but he wrote there were bad keys, whoich github removed on june 1st [14:20]
jurov better have the dataset without them [14:20]
jurov what would help, if you generate an api key and give it to me [14:21]
jurov so that i can scrape in parallel [14:21]
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jurov it needs not to have any special permissions, just public access (as selected on the key screen by default) [14:22]
danielpbarron so uncheck all the boxes? [14:26]
jurov lemme see [14:27]
danielpbarron i see a box called "read:public_key" [14:27]
jurov try unchecking everything. my works even without "read: public key" [14:29]
jurov oh it says "scopes limit access" [14:29]
jurov so you should check everything except "read:public_key" [14:29]
danielpbarron http://danielpbarron.com/jurov.asc.txt [14:39]
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jurov danielpbarron: thanks, it works [14:42]
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mats https://github.com/0xAX/linux-insides [14:44]
assbot 0xAX/linux-insides · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1dqYbXw ) [14:44]
mats http://v0ids3curity.blogspot.com/2015/06/rebuilding-elf-from-coredump.html [14:44]
assbot v0id s3curity: Rebuilding ELF from Coredump [14:44]
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mircea_popescu hanbot make him one would you. [14:45]
mats http://blog.lacklustre.net/posts/BLE_Fun_With_Ubertooth:_Sniffing_Bluetooth_Smart_and_Cracking_Its_Crypto [14:45]
assbot BLE Fun With Ubertooth: Sniffing Bluetooth Smart and Cracking Its Crypto ... ( http://bit.ly/1dqYjX6 ) [14:45]
mats http://reveng.sourceforge.net [14:46]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1B1iNRe ) [14:46]
mats https://soundcloud.com/givemepowers/beat-of-my-drum [14:47]
assbot POWERS - Beat Of My Drum by POWERS | Free Listening on SoundCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1B1j46K ) [14:47]
mats http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33041218 [14:48]
assbot G7 summit: 125 extra UK military trainers to be sent to Iraq - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1B1j6eG ) [14:48]
mats this along with FIFA corruption is apparently top items on the G7 agenda!!! [14:48]
mats http://malwaretech.net/MTSBK.pdf 'A Firmware Assisted Bootkit' [14:54]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1B1jREu ) [14:54]
mats https://www.sstic.org/media/SSTIC2015/SSTIC-actes/hardware_re_for_software_reversers/SSTIC2015-Article-hardware_re_for_software_reversers-czarny_rigo.pdf 'analysis of an encrypted hard drive' [14:55]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1B1jYjz ) [14:55]
mats was kinda expecting .gr to switch over to the drachma this weekend [14:56]
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mircea_popescu today in mat's security world :D [14:58]
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mats san diego was nice [15:05]
mats pacific beach has black and gold sand o_O [15:05]
mats http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-06/08/c_134307754.htm lol [15:06]
assbot Facts speak for China's human rights progress - Xinhua | English.news.cn [15:06]
mircea_popescu xinhua being the state news agency [15:08]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5l5q1pqL51qbk26xo1_500.jpg << facts speak for dark corridors. [15:08]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1dr1aPY ) [15:08]
trinque chained to a dungeon wall, still bothers to suck in her belly for the shot [15:10]
trinque haha [15:10]
mats i don't see this news item on the cn side [15:10]
mats loled [15:10]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile in the united states of human rights, http://daddyslittleprincessgoddess.tumblr.com/post/35469654103/justsexypics-every-seven-seconds-law [15:10]
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trinque woah, that tumblr got myspaced [15:11]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [15:14]
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scoopbot_revived Eulora client Freenode patch http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-client-freenode-patch/ [15:45]
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shinohai Bondage theme? mkay: http://www.restrainedelegance.com/preview/arielsnookertableslavegirl11.jpg [15:55]
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jurov hanbot thanks! [16:17]
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asciilifeform !up ascii_field [16:22]
asciilifeform wtf expiring session bullshit [16:22]
asciilifeform anyway, http://www.retrotechnology.com/memship/1802.txt [16:22]
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mats fun fact: x86 is little endian because it ultimately descends from an architecture that did arithmetic serially, one bit at a time, and handling carries was considered cleaner that way. [16:26]
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Jef91 Thanks danielpbarron [17:22]
danielpbarron so if you're interested in that .deb thing, you'll want to talk to mircea_popescu and jurov [17:22]
Jef91 Building a simple deb package isn't difficult [17:23]
jurov ok, i hear you [17:27]
danielpbarron Jef91, do you have a gpg key by any chance? [17:29]
Jef91 danielpbarron, I do not. [17:29]
danielpbarron for the clarity of log readers, the .deb thing is regarding eulora, and Jef91 works with bodhi linux [17:36]
danielpbarron he offered to list eulora as a "featured item" in their games section, provided it has a .deb installer [17:38]
jurov he's fine with ~400M bag that plops itself into /opt? [17:40]
jurov and i'm currently set up on ubuntu 14 [17:40]
Jef91 jurov, yea thats fine. That is basically what our libreoffice installers do [17:41]
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jurov ok. and do you know that new eulora accounts require one to come here, register with gpg and get a rating? [17:44]
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mircea_popescu hello Jef91 [18:09]
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-assbot- You voiced Petit_Dejeuner for 30 minutes. [18:10]
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mats fun fact: OS X has a Lisp interpreter in the kernel. [18:17]
trinque mats: wat [18:17]
mats trinque: Does not conform to R7RS. [18:18]
trinque what's its purpose? [18:19]
mats i've no idea. good question. [18:22]
mats will query the man responsible for this fun fact (it is not me). [18:23]
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scoopbot_revived The future of human-machine interfaces. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/08/the-future-of-human-machine-interfaces/ [18:33]
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jurov http://www.coindesk.com/my-life-inside-a-remote-chinese-bitcoin-mine/ Wu Gang Style mining [18:41]
assbot My Life Inside a Remote Chinese Bitcoin Mine ... ( http://bit.ly/1HXz6vv ) [18:41]
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punkman https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143355112811564&w=2 [19:48]
assbot 'Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1JEqDBQ ) [19:48]
BingoBoingo "I hope your next mail goes straight to Linus Torvalds. He is also encouraging people to use the hardware they accidentally bought in exactly the same way!! The nerve of him." [19:54]
BingoBoingo ^ God bless Theo [19:54]
BingoBoingo "You are quite a persistant idiot. Find replacement of a firmware that a vendor wrote for their specific undocumented chip; which runs on the custom processor and hardware on the athn USB device? That runs on the rsu hardware, which is probably some kind of crappy vendor-modified ARM or MIPS or 8085 derived cpu attached to a blob of Verilog logic they designed in their own lab?" [19:55]
trinque love the way he handles people [19:55]
BingoBoingo ^ Theo doing work [19:55]
punkman accidentally bought? meh [19:56]
BingoBoingo And Theo isn't even the only quality shitlord on that thread: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143357719215507&w=2 [19:57]
assbot 'Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1cHkkjQ ) [19:57]
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shinohai Evening ASSets report: https://i.imgur.com/Z0j6L9G.jpg [19:59]
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trinque BingoBoingo: kek [19:59]
trinque the redditard has come to expect free software (TM) !! [20:00]
trinque hilarious for anyone to be lecturing openbsd on the subj [20:00]
punkman https://01.org/zh/linuxgraphics/intel-linux-graphics-firmwares no more open source intel graphics [20:01]
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mircea_popescu heh. [20:14]
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asciilifeform RIP usable graphics cards. [20:56]
decimation asciilifeform: the intel cards were hardly high performance [21:01]
decimation http://www.codersnotes.com/notes/a-constructive-look-at-templeos < a defense of templeos [21:03]
assbot codersnotes / A Constructive Look At TempleOS ... ( http://bit.ly/1eZ6knm ) [21:03]
trinque decimation: schizophrenic goes it alone, creates a system far lispier than this gentoo mess I live in [21:11]
trinque something sad about that [21:11]
decimation well, the idea of executing everything in 'ring 0' is appealing to me [21:12]
trinque Every piece of code in TempleOS (except the initial kernel/compiler) is JIT compiled on demand. Yes that’s right – you can run a program without compiling it, simply by using an #include statement from the command line. << I believe this is one of asciilifeform's desirable system features [21:12]
decimation the concept of partitioning security zones on a 'c machine' is an excercise in sophistry [21:12]
trinque "TempleOS is a motorbike. If you lean over too far, you’ll fall off. Don’t do that." << this guy's awesome. [21:14]
scoopbot_revived Ministry of Games: Eulora Enters Public Beta http://qntra.net/2015/06/ministry-of-games-eulora-enters-public-beta/ [21:17]
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decimation http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2015/02/alex_payne_one_of_twitters_fir.html < this alex payne guy was part of those who joined the anti-yarvin campaign [21:18]
assbot Alex Payne, who helped build Twitter, returns to Portland as tech mentor and vegan restaurateur | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1eZ7oaH ) [21:18]
decimation "While much of Silicon Valley grew enamored of the digital currency Bitcoin as a libertarian alternative to central banks, Payne began consulting with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, a new federal agency created at the urging of liberal lion Elizabeth Warren." [21:18]
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mircea_popescu "helped build twitter" whassat. [21:35]
mircea_popescu like http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/#selection-35.0-35.72 [21:36]
assbot The battlefield of the future on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MjCF2w ) [21:36]
mircea_popescu and wtf is a "liberal lion" and wtf, warren's roughly speaking a shop clerk. what lion./ [21:36]
mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md71g7nlTq1rq6vz1o1_500.gif << liberal kittens. [21:37]
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BingoBoingo http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150608/civic-center/jail-doctors-made-man-impotent-by-failing-treat-6-day-erection-lawuit [21:53]
assbot Jail Doctors Made Man Impotent by Failing to Treat 6-Day Erection: Lawsuit - Civic Center - DNAinfo.com New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1AYGPMP ) [21:53]
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trinque god this payne guy is exactly what's wrong with portland [22:23]
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trinque fucking communist that took his stumbling into wealth as a sign that being a communist is right (what.. the fuck?), that businesses which something something social good are going to succeed, that the financial considerations are not essential to business but evil! [22:26]
trinque at least if he had the spine to be a proper communist I'd have a shred more respect [22:27]
mats lies [22:28]
mats this place breeds contempt [22:28]
trinque mats: actually I produce my own home-grown, free range contempt [22:29]
mircea_popescu lol [22:29]
mats carry on [22:29]
mircea_popescu well trinque... it worked when random ho was telling all the lazy schoolage hos about how the path to oprah richdom is not in school. [22:30]
mircea_popescu why should the same not work on bois ? [22:30]
mircea_popescu gangsta rap fo' da whitey! [22:30]
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trinque bleh... BLEH! [22:33]
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* trinque was raised by stern white men who said "do useful work, improve yourself, don't be a fucking fool" [22:34]
trinque seems that all evaporated in the US [22:34]
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ben_vulpes whadday'all use for desktop environments, if any? i've inserted ubuntu into this mac and now need to make it usable [22:36]
trinque ben_vulpes: for who? yourself? [22:37]
ben_vulpes myeah [22:37]
ben_vulpes should i skip the desktop environment? [22:37]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: XFCE is prolly the best stating out option [22:37]
trinque could always copy your stump over [22:37]
BingoBoingo Or just use a bare windows manager [22:37]
trinque yeah xfce's lightweight, the various *box (openbox, fluxbox) ones are also very lightweight [22:37]
ben_vulpes myeah i plan to run stump [22:37]
ben_vulpes is teh desktop environment even strictly speaking necessary? [22:37]
BingoBoingo not really [22:38]
trinque my setup is xdm and stumpwm [22:38]
trinque BingoBoingo: xdm will read a file called .xsession in your home dir to launch whatever you want [22:38]
trinque rather execute, not read [22:39]
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trinque bash script in there with: exec /your/wm/binary [22:39]
BingoBoingo trinque: Yeah, that's pretty much the standard for setting up anything. [22:39]
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BingoBoingo Pierre_Rochard: How goes the shoulder [22:45]
Pierre_Rochard it’s out of the sling, starting physical therapy tomorrow [22:46]
Pierre_Rochard btw giving my two weeks notice to bitpay tomorrow [22:46]
Pierre_Rochard I’m going back to wall street [22:46]
ben_vulpes scoop! [22:46]
ben_vulpes wow rly [22:46]
Pierre_Rochard haha [22:46]
ben_vulpes what'd you do in WS? [22:47]
ben_vulpes s/in/on [22:47]
Pierre_Rochard accountant for new securitization issuances [22:47]
Pierre_Rochard this will be a different role though, I’ll be working with institutional investors to move their accounting from spreadsheets and PDFs to SQL databases [22:48]
scoopbot_revived Eurlorean Crafting - The Pickaxe Illumination http://trilema.com/2015/eurlorean-crafting-the-pickaxe-illumination/ [22:49]
trinque Pierre_Rochard: sounds like a vast improvement :p [22:50]
* trinque shudders to think of some of the worst abuses of excel spreadsheets he's seen [22:50]
Pierre_Rochard trinque: agreed, great role to hone my python skills in [22:50]
ben_vulpes Pierre_Rochard: get intimate with the sql [22:55]
ben_vulpes trinque likes to bang on about how it was designed as an end-user-programming environment for accountants [22:55]
trinque word [22:55]
trinque all the questions any account will ever want to ask are able to be expressed as SQL [22:56]
trinque worth considering how close you may be able to get the accountant to writing the queries themselves [22:57]
* trinque put a great deal of effort into that problem, only to conclude that one should learn to write the damn query directly [22:57]
Pierre_Rochard agreed, though I do lean on sqlalchemy a lot, I can write raw sql [22:57]
Pierre_Rochard I’d like to just go straight to pl/pgsql at some point [22:58]
trinque staying too cozy in python, you'll probably end up reinventing things the db can do better [22:58]
trinque consider for example the difference between using a python ORM and raw SQL for an aggregate over some column [22:59]
trinque most ORMs would load the whole damn row into an "object" whatever that is, load all the objects into a list, then iterate over that duplicated set of data and barf out the aggregate [22:59]
danielpbarron http://www.trashbagbondage.com/ >> Welcome to Trash Bag Bondage >> We now accept bitcoin [23:00]
mircea_popescu this will be a different role though, I’ll be working with institutional investors to move their accounting from spreadsheets and PDFs to SQL databases <<< the virgin goddess weeps. [23:01]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157366 << highest performance card where the open driver actually worked (of those still produced) [23:01]
assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 23:57:30; decimation: asciilifeform: the intel cards were hardly high performance [23:01]
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Pierre_Rochard trinque: I made that mistake with the first version of pacioli with datetime logic, I’ve pushed all of that logic onto postgres now [23:02]
* assbot gives voice to asciilifeform [23:02]
trinque Pierre_Rochard: that said I am under the suspicion that this kind of programming can also be done with CLOS in common lisp [23:04]
trinque though I'm not sure yet what that looks like [23:04]
trinque asciilifeform: ? [23:04]
mats http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/523245.html [23:04]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AYL0s8 ) [23:04]
mats >Russian Dies After Eating [Parts of] Tablet Computer to Avoid Police Detention [23:04]
trinque not that kind of tablet [23:05]
trinque lol [23:05]
mircea_popescu they didn't beat him or nottin [23:05]
asciilifeform http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/girl-electrocuted-by-tablet-in-bathtub/504561.html << related ! [23:06]
assbot Girl Electrocuted by Tablet in Bathtub | News | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1AYLa2H ) [23:06]
* asciilifeform misread initially as 'girl electrocuted by toilet in bathtub' [23:06]
trinque I guess franz, inc has some sort of database over CLOS objects [23:06]
asciilifeform trinque: or the open src 'elephant' [23:07]
asciilifeform which turns any clos class into a working db [23:07]
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trinque asciilifeform: very cool [23:07]
trinque ty [23:07]
asciilifeform it is very finicky but once it works - it works. [23:07]
trinque every program I've ever been paid to write was just a glorified db editor [23:08]
trinque still looking for the perfect set of tools for that [23:08]
asciilifeform trinque: consider new job ? [23:08]
trinque pays just fine, why would I/ [23:08]
asciilifeform at least change gas mask filter frequently. [23:09]
trinque I'm under the delusion that I can make suffciently general tools the jobs don't take that long [23:09]
trinque lol [23:09]
ben_vulpes i'm going to beg a copy of trinque's tools and go murder parts of the economy he's not [23:09]
trinque right, that's the fun part [23:10]
ben_vulpes i'll work on dirty bits too [23:10]
* asciilifeform spent virtually whole day moving logic analyzer probes around. [23:11]
ben_vulpes at least you weren't programming? [23:11]
mircea_popescu LA still takes programmingm [23:11]
asciilifeform no, but i'm waiting for mircea_popescu to wake up and tell me how to do that from across an ocean [23:11]
asciilifeform l0l there he is. [23:11]
mircea_popescu >D [23:11]
mircea_popescu im too busy fucking digging up boulders for crying out loud [23:12]
asciilifeform l0lders [23:12]
mircea_popescu this is all i ever dreamed of - a mmorpg where i know the owner so all the stupid shit can be shot in the head [23:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 333843 @ 0.00034431 = 114.9455 BTC [-] {4} [23:14]
asciilifeform little did mircea_popescu know that it is not enough to shoot stupid shit in the head, it has to be scattered with trotyl and buries in five separate graves, or will re-assemble [23:14]
mircea_popescu i don't mind. [23:14]
* mircea_popescu is kinda curious whether anyone ever manages to reverse the magic i put into this thing [23:15]
asciilifeform reverse in the sense of building it again somewhere else ? [23:15]
mircea_popescu reverse in the sense of descvribing the black box. [23:16]
asciilifeform or in the sense of godelizing it to go to some unintended place [23:16]
asciilifeform ah [23:16]
* assbot removes voice from tsoulus [23:16]
mircea_popescu it is after all the one problem of the clockwork puzzle. how to make one ? [23:16]
danielpbarron https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUADXETCIAEokzE.png << fox news explains github [23:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AYMank ) [23:17]
mircea_popescu is it a collection of tubes ? [23:17]
mircea_popescu "e-note" ? [23:18]
mircea_popescu wtf is wrong with these people. [23:18]
mircea_popescu in other news, there's 3x as many people reading trilema off a sony playstation than nintendo wii [23:19]
danielpbarron the news lady in the background looks baffled [23:19]
mircea_popescu i had nfi you could do that. [23:19]
trinque wii's got opera on it, dunno bout ps [23:19]
mircea_popescu so how do you type ? [23:20]
danielpbarron on screen keyboard plus joystick [23:20]
mircea_popescu oh [23:20]
trinque on the wii you use a mickey mouse finger and your self respect [23:20]
trinque I guess the ps browser might be opera too [23:21]
mircea_popescu Mr Warren Buffett Mon, 4:48 am 4.5 KiB $5 MILLION USD DONATION FROM MR WARREN BUFFETT [23:22]
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mircea_popescu "I like to re-assure you of the legitimacy of this services as we will not be involved in any fraudulent act and will never be. use the money wisely, we only want to feel good by helping people this time of the year, this is the only thing that makes my wife happy too even now that she is not here with me anymore, we have too much to give away as I only have few months left on earth." [23:23]
mircea_popescu apparently one doesn't need to master english to catch the run-on sentences disease. [23:23]
trinque well shit I can't argue with pleasing his dead wife [23:26]
trinque where do I wire the funds? [23:26]
mircea_popescu send em to bill gates. [23:27]
mircea_popescu fun fact : search for barren muffett -> Quizás quisiste decir: warren buffett [23:27]
mircea_popescu oh and also : susan (who died like a decade ago) was into "population control" [23:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124850 @ 0.00034191 = 42.6875 BTC [-] {2} [23:30]
trinque I'm sure for humanitarian reasons. [23:31]
mircea_popescu speaking of trios, she actually left the guy to be a cabaret dancer in the 70s, [23:32]
mircea_popescu then provided a replacement (astrid) [23:32]
mircea_popescu the three sorta lived together [23:32]
mats did he inspire you to do the same [23:33]
mircea_popescu mno [23:34]
mats :P [23:34]
* mircea_popescu only heard of buffett relatively recently. [23:34]
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decimation asciilifeform: who killed matrox? [23:43]
decimation although all the matrox boards I have used recently were shit [23:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7740 @ 0.00034833 = 2.6961 BTC [+] [23:49]
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decimation I bet the girl in the bathtub would have wished that her charger came with a $0.01 fuse [23:53]
trinque wait wait [23:57]
trinque how in the fuck is github worth anything let alone 750mil [23:57]
trinque well hell, the currency's not worth anything anymore, maybe they are [23:58]
asciilifeform decimation: matrox killed itself [23:58]
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asciilifeform decimation: by turning full-bore winblows-only [23:58]
asciilifeform it was once the gold standard of graphics-for-linux [23:59]
decimation yeah I remember [23:59]
* asciilifeform owned a succession of matrox boards, until this. [23:59]
decimation amusingly even modern x86 servers still come with matrox cards [23:59]
decimation but they are shit [23:59]
* asciilifeform has not encountered or so much as smelled a matrox board for many years [23:59]
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decimation asciilifeform: they come on both dell & hp rack servers [23:59]
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