Forum logs for 07 Nov 2018
| mircea_popescu: | this is actually a pretty good spec for a... well basically a "compiler for web" as opposed to "compiler for machine" | [01:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | "take code make it readable". incomprehensible to me why is not a clearly delineated function of code processors. obviously shouild be, much in the vein of yest "fix your terminal" discussions | [01:08] |
| diana_coman: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-06-nov-2018#2493711 -> oh hey, that looks very useful indeed, thanks! | [02:52] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-11-06 23:57 asciilifeform: btw in case other folx ( diana_coman ? ) want to make these for ~their~ proggies, process is pretty simple : | [02:52] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: it's esp. egregious imho that gcc dun do this, it has the AST internally, could disgorge. ( gnat fixes some of this 'dun disgorge', it puts some raw structure in the .ali intermediate crapola for 'gnathtml' etc to read ) | [09:31] |
| asciilifeform: | ( recall the ancient trb flow chart thread ) | [09:33] |
| deedbot: | http://qntra.net/2018/11/usms-lists-approximately-660-bitcoins-for-sale/ << Qntra - USMS Lists "Approximately" 660 Bitcoins For Sale | [11:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Phfs3/?raw=true | [12:02] |
| asciilifeform: | in other notes from last wk's dig, turns out that ice40 contains onboard otp rom , enuff to store whole config ( somehow i read the docs '9000' times prev. and missed this ). | [12:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [12:05] |
| asciilifeform: | http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AVRMP/?raw=true << from horse's mouth | [12:07] |
| asciilifeform: | ( the promisetronics with 'difficult to read with microscope, believe!11' thing is, as i gather, for the various folx in the biz of loading $circuit into fpga and selling 'as asic' , it isn't of great interest to asciilifeform in particular ) | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is actually pretty cool. | [12:12] |
| asciilifeform: | potentially saves a coupla bux on board cost, at the very least. | [12:12] |
| asciilifeform: | ( e.g. classic FG , is only 'upgradeable' because xilinx doesn't offer an otp chip ) | [12:13] |
| asciilifeform: | i have nfi if ice's thing boosts longevity, chances are their 'OTP' is implemented the same way as errybody else's, nowadays, simply a nonwindowed EPROM. | [12:14] |
| asciilifeform: | the 'can't read with optics' does suggest possibility of actual otp tho. | [12:14] |
| asciilifeform: | currently i have no approach to determining experimentally, which it is. | [12:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [12:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know, even non-"windowed" eeproms will cook in high uv cookers. | [12:20] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: errything cooks if you heat it enuff, lol | [12:20] |
| asciilifeform: | q is whether can 'restore virginity' and load in new config and whether this is actually easier than simply soldering on a fresh one | [12:21] |
| asciilifeform: | (or simply switcheroo for fresh board in the mail etc) | [12:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. | [12:22] |
| asciilifeform: | most 'eprom attack' focuses on angle of 'read back the seekrit config', sumthing that doesn't really affect device where config is published already | [12:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is true. | [12:23] |
| deedbot: | http://qntra.net/2018/11/dutch-seize-encrypted-messaging-service-and-make-some-arrests-while-advertising-their-hope-to-make-many-more-arrests/ << Qntra - Dutch Seize "Encrypted" Messaging Service And Make Some Arrests While Advertising Their Hope To Make Many More Arrests | [13:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | wtf are these "servers" doing anyway ? | [13:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | either it's encrypted or it's servered. | [13:08] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: near as i can tell, the usual skypeism | [13:08] |
| asciilifeform: | hushmailism. | [13:08] |
| asciilifeform: | promisecryption. | [13:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap | [13:08] |
| asciilifeform: | idjits ? | [13:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | and no, i don't mean "who among the silk road retards", that part is clear. | [13:08] |
| BingoBoingo: | People who eat endorsements | [13:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | keks, so basically the dutch are gonna arrest a whole lotta politicians and other momstate items, and they're advertising this so as to avoid embarassment of bitchslapfest ? | [13:09] |
| BingoBoingo: | The Urban enhancers and the back country meth lab crews | [13:09] |
| BingoBoingo: | Sounds like it | [13:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | come to think of it ... makes sernse. | [13:10] |
| BingoBoingo: | Also maybe they have a lot of undercover folk and CIs in renvenue generating positions (DEA style) they don't want off'd | [13:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other similar news, i tell you nothing's quite like nursing a hangover with teh online world. bought 16 bottles of fine bordeaux yest, partied with naked girls, to the degree of fucking the same one in the ass twice in the same evening (anal queen this chick jayssu) and so on. | [13:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm biologically exhausted and i'm advertising this fact to avoid pantsuit politician #metoos from falling over themselves. | [13:11] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [13:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm... in retrospect, this logic doesn't work any better when i apply it than when dutch police does. | [13:12] |
| asciilifeform: | consider sleep | [13:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | i already slept! | [13:12] |
| asciilifeform: | but didja sleep 16 bottles' worth | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i sleep quicker than other people, see. what they take eight-nine hours i can accomplish in like almost four. | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform i didn't drink it all myself! | [13:13] |
| * asciilifeform | also tends to 4-5. but that's with 0 bottles | [13:13] |
| asciilifeform: | lolk | [13:13] |
| BingoBoingo: | Ah, one of those hangovers where it takes the second or third sleeps to take it off | [13:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo not even properly speaking hung over. not like my head hurts or anything. | [13:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | fine wine is up there with ro tuica re post-party effects. it's pretty much all mellow no pain. | [13:14] |
| asciilifeform: | tuica is a++ smooth, asciilifeform attests | [13:14] |
| asciilifeform: | ( ~nonexistent, interestingly, in gringolandia ) | [13:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile at the other mini-lulz farms : "LordMPofTMSR Not even kidding. brooccofull You do know I can't read the end of that sentence right ? LordMPofTMSR | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | Hey, life sorts you lot into cans and can'ts. brooccofull I mean the text cute halfway. So I don't even know what that sentence is" | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's ever fascinating, how DEEPLY and ~UNTOUCHABLY!!!~ implanted in twentysomething skulls this notion is that they "must have a fair opportunity" according to ~their~ definition of fairness. | [13:15] |
| asciilifeform: | lol didja rot13 the 2nd half or wat was it | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | fucking state schools. | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | who the fuck cares you couldn't read the exam questions because they were written in japanese with invisible ink ? YOU STILL FAILED! FOR HAVING FAILED! JESUS. | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform they literally do not understand that their phone cutting random shit off webpages to fit it IS A BUG OF THEIR PHONE. | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno how to convey this, it is still blowing my own mind. | [13:17] |
| asciilifeform: | recall the ancient usenet lul: went something like 'exam. in 8 minutes a hungry tiger will be admitted to exam room. you will find the 11 parts of the rifle under your desk. any questions' | [13:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | actually... let's put it this way : their terminal cuts at 80cols, right ? and they think "this code does not compile" is an ok reaction to this. | [13:17] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: ipnoje cuts at 30-40 cols last i knew | [13:17] |
| BingoBoingo: | lol | [13:17] |
| asciilifeform: | not even fully deterministic | [13:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform whatever it is, but the fact their "tool" cuts most of the world out is, according to them, a legitimate complaint to bring UPON THE WORLD. | [13:18] |
| asciilifeform: | i dunget it tho, it's got the finger screen neh | [13:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | I KNOW!!! | [13:18] |
| asciilifeform: | what, their fingers only move up/down ?? | [13:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have nfi. | [13:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, it's a tv emulator for a reason right. | [13:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe finger only moves from ass to mouth andf back, what do i know. | [13:19] |
| asciilifeform: | sumhow i dun have this problem on ~my~ lolpad, landau & lifschitz scroll great in both dirs | [13:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | me either, nfi. | [13:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | but imo a fine illustration of the degree, structure, magnitude and physiology of "broken" in the "citizen of free world & open society" aka "useless fucktard headed for redditbagging". | [13:20] |
| asciilifeform: | i'm almost curious what it's actually like to meet these 'people'. in a room. even without 16 bottles. | [13:20] |
| asciilifeform: | must be troo riot. | [13:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | these dumb cunts show up to job interviews, you realise ? expect "respect" and shit ? wanna fucking vote, have oppinions about the world around trhem, what have you | [13:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform i generally don't meet THESE (because "they chose not to", of course). | [13:21] |
| asciilifeform: | makes sense | [13:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | amusingly homeostatic, this world we live in. | [13:21] |
| asciilifeform: | you'd have to get'em into a raccoon trap or sumthing | [13:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | (they also use phones "because they choose to", you know.) | [13:21] |
| asciilifeform: | gotta have the pnoje, neh. how else to view lolcat 5 times daily, like praying to mecca | [13:22] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-07#1870044 << that being said, afaik there simply does not exist a non-tard product in that niche | [13:28] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-11-07 18:08 mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap | [13:28] |
| asciilifeform: | ( possibly on acct of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867907 effect , i've nfi ) | [13:29] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-10-31 15:54 asciilifeform: the problem faced by even fella with a first-class head, when buying 'crypto iron', is a 9000x hypertrophied instance of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867790 boojum -- to know what he's getting, he is stuck with much ~harder~ problem than even original maker had in making the artifact to begin with ! | [13:29] |
| asciilifeform: | tbh i have nfi who still relies on voice pnoje for sensitive-anyffing, aside from usgtards | [13:30] |
| asciilifeform: | it's a screaming anachronism, imho | [13:30] |
| asciilifeform: | it aint even as if sending text over a wire were new! fucking 1850s tech! | [13:31] |
| asciilifeform: | why yakyak into microphone if ya dun have to ? so that room bug can hear ? | [13:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | obviously mobility solution. | [15:58] |
| asciilifeform: | even the 'must talk from toilet' folx send 'text' nao, i thought | [16:10] |
| asciilifeform: | i suppose in the field, under fire, folx still talk into boxes | [16:10] |
| asciilifeform: | ( ~those~ imho pretty 'killer app' for paired-otp... ) | [16:11] |
| * asciilifeform | bbl,meat | [16:14] |
| mod6: | hola! | [20:22] |
| lobbesbot: | mod6: Sent 8 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Updated notes file http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/xPCze/?raw=true attn asciilifeform ben_vulpes mod6 | [20:22] |
| BingoBoingo: | Hola | [20:22] |
| mod6: | Ah, thanks for the updated notes file, Sir. | [20:22] |
| BingoBoingo: | you are welcome | [20:26] |
| BingoBoingo: | In other lulz of the day, trump crushed the mixed post election headlines by calling in Jeff Session's undated resignation letter | [20:27] |
| mod6: | Heheh. | [20:28] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: remind me what this does ? | [20:32] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: With the Senate solidly his it removes a check on Trump's ability to act without constraint. | [20:33] |
| asciilifeform: | was just as 'his' before iirc ? | [20:34] |
| BingoBoingo: | Not particularly. Jeff Sessions as a pick largely served to keep the old wing of the GOP happy. | [20:35] |
| BingoBoingo: | And for that he was ineffective | [20:36] |
| asciilifeform: | 'old wing' not there anymoar? | [20:36] |
| BingoBoingo: | Less relevant with McCain dead | [20:36] |
| BingoBoingo: | Consider McCain's lover Lindsey Graham went from being a shy boy to becoming Trump's biggest cheerleader after cancer won the war on McCain. | [20:37] |
| BingoBoingo: | Meanwhile Session is still burdened by the decision he made to recuse himself from any question touching Russia because he talked to a Russian once apparently without wearing a wire/ | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform it does things like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1864888 just more accentuated (which practically means -- cutting http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-67.86-67.102 from "academia" support faucet, 10x the size of "social security" support faucet). | [20:46] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-10-22 17:28 mircea_popescu: he's rehauling the "obamacare" health bs. which he was fucking voted in to do. snipping all sorts of blue nonsense in the paybook, including surgery for disphorists. | [20:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can look on trump as a smokeless slow burn erdogan, in this context, it entirely delivers. | [20:46] |
| BingoBoingo: | Not to mention with blue party narrowly holding the House he is in a position to rip of the blue party's balls with cannabis legalization by pushing further on it than the dems are willing to go. Sessions has proved too... southern gentleman to help Trump sell it. | [20:48] |
| asciilifeform: | d00d promised to cancel obummer'care' entirely, so far not pulled off | [20:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | for some reason arresting a third of the judges "unthinkable" in the us, even as having such a thing as "activist judges" perfectly thinkable, and totally not the same as corruption. cuz it's only corruption if it fucks over pantsuit, see, otherwise it's "activism". | [20:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform you've no fucking idea what you're talking about. it's off. | [20:49] |
| asciilifeform: | then why am i still being charged for it (via ++ insurance premiums) lol | [20:49] |
| asciilifeform: | seems like it's similar to the 1890s telephone tax -- eternal | [20:50] |
| BingoBoingo: | Because you haven't become a socio of the mutualista Española yet | [20:50] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [20:51] |
| BingoBoingo: | A+++ strep throat ER visit | [20:51] |
| asciilifeform: | ( i'm completely willing to believe that the part that actually disgorges dough to the 'customers' is off , tho have not had any occasion to try it with own hands, i dun exactly qualify ) | [20:51] |
| asciilifeform: | spreading--worx!11 | [20:52] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: roundin' up judges needs a stalin, not a trump | [20:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | Not if you indict them with other judge first | [20:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform turk did it. 3k in jail. | [20:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | bout a third of the total. | [20:54] |
| asciilifeform: | neato. | [20:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform to quote fresh meat, "oh, obamacare's been cancelled". they don't spiut out any more cash | [20:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | the point wasn't whether they take it in or not doh | [20:54] |
| asciilifeform: | sorta how the massive 'social security' tax is still collected 100%, even tho nobody with half a brain expects to see the pension thing | [20:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | well yes. it is after all a http://trilema.com/2018/democracy-sucks-the-two-thousand-four-hundred-and-change-years-old-version/ | [20:55] |
| asciilifeform: | and noshit, they dun spit it out, it will buy moar f-35. | [20:56] |
| BingoBoingo: | F-35 is just an excuse not to buy rusted MiG-9 | [20:56] |
| BingoBoingo: | Same operational capability | [20:56] |
| asciilifeform: | i haven't actively followed subj does it run win10 yet? | [20:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | I think it's on Windows CE | [20:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | 1990 | [20:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | 's thing | [20:57] |
| asciilifeform: | asciilifeform's brother was stuck working with ce for a while, informs that among such wretches it is pronounced : 'wince' | [20:58] |
| BingoBoingo: | The day of the Lockheed versus Boeing/McDonnelDouglas trials in Saint Louis, those things dominated all 4 channels on tv all day. The Lockheed selection was only beat in local media sad by 9/11 | [20:59] |
| BingoBoingo: | Upside is the Super Hornet lines in St Louis are outliving their expected life due to F-35 | [21:01] |
| BingoBoingo: | And F-35 means Brasil is going to sell the Super Tucano to the US to support the aging A-10 fleet because F-35 can't help | [21:03] |
| asciilifeform: | lol, the ancient prop thing ?! | [21:04] |
| asciilifeform: | star of argentine air farce ? | [21:05] |
| BingoBoingo: | Not ancient. Front line star if we get a regional war down here | [21:05] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: it's still ww2 tech, even if some monkeystan somewhere is still makin'it | [21:06] |
| asciilifeform: | prolly can be shot even with ukr-style toy chopper, dun even need rockets | [21:07] |
| asciilifeform: | ( heat-seeking toy chopper aint exactly high science ) | [21:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | super toucano ? aaahahaha | [21:08] |
| asciilifeform: | incidentally i'm almost surprised that toy chopper aint used as area denial weapon for actual chopper just yet | [21:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform afaik it is ? actual chopper 100% grounded in all conflict since vietnam war misexperience. | [21:09] |
| asciilifeform: | still plentiful in iraq/afgan iirc | [21:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | you mean, by the poolside ? | [21:10] |
| asciilifeform: | i suppose -- 'green zone' | [21:10] |
| BingoBoingo: | In other US election weird, a KKKalifornia to permanently be off by one hour won. | [21:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | And in still other post election weird, a CNN stooge touched a female whitehouse intern during an altercation and had his press credential to get into the white house revoked | [21:59] |
| deedbot: | http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-october-2018-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), October 2018 Statement | [22:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, it's trump's pussygrab farm, not murdoch's. | [23:10] |
| BingoBoingo: | Fox is Murdoch's though it has cucked a lot since he handed it to the kids. CNN is buffalo guy Captain Planet's weird fetish project | [23:38] |
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