Forum logs for 06 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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cazalla https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/bitcoin-leaders-speak-up-block-size [00:13]
assbot 7 Bitcoin Leaders Speak Up On Bitcoin Block Size Debate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqXSd6 ) [00:13]
cazalla who's that at #4 heh [00:14]
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punkman good ol' justus [00:28]
punkman "Justus Ranvier has one of the more interesting opinions on the bitcoin blockchain that doesn’t seem to get much attention. In his view, there is no need for the block size limit to exist at all." [00:28]
punkman http://monetas.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/03.jpg [00:29]
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The20YearIRCloud howdy punkman [00:40]
WolfGoethe yo [00:40]
The20YearIRCloud hi [00:40]
WolfGoethe some fool locking up my coins with bogus trades. what fool wants to deposit cash to the bank... at midnight??? [00:40]
punkman lolwut [00:41]
The20YearIRCloud sounds like pure fun [00:41]
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The20YearIRCloud So I miss anything interesting or fun with mpex in the past 2-3 months? [00:43]
punkman account opening fee is now 50btc [00:43]
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The20YearIRCloud Interesting [00:54]
The20YearIRCloud Quite a bit more than the title 4 exchanges I've been talking to in the US [00:54]
decimation title 4 exchanges? [00:56]
The20YearIRCloud Yeah , crowdexchanges here in the US now that the SEC has finally got off their butt and allowed small companies to list on new exchanges. [01:02]
The20YearIRCloud Exchanges with less regulation an requirements (mostly) than even OTC [01:02]
The20YearIRCloud Granted, i guess if you wanted a $10k+ threshhold it'd make sense to up it to 50btc due to all the recent slides [01:03]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [03:16]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155700 no dude. [03:18]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 00:41:17; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^^^^^^ [03:18]
mircea_popescu lol you're in the position of someone who made a moon exploration vessel, discovered life on the moon and is now kicking himself for not having included a condom factory in the ship. [03:18]
mircea_popescu at the time phuctor was designed in 2013, the idea was that no keys could ever be factored. for this purpose, phuctor as designed is exactly adequate. [03:19]
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mircea_popescu yes, moduli that it flags should be put through a proper factorization. this is a task a) separate from what phuctor does and b) to be done indepentently of what phuctor does. [03:19]
mircea_popescu you don't include bakeries into wheat harvesters to be driven across wheat fields, and you don't need phuctor to do everything either. [03:20]
mircea_popescu let anyone with a clue (tm) do it themselves, it doesn't take much more brain than what a chicken has to cluck at the freshly disturbed ground for that's where the worms are. [03:20]
mircea_popescu and if nobody does it, we'll do it, once phuctor's done running. [03:21]
mircea_popescu in unrelated but more interesting news, it's been pointed out to me pluriously by now that http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-may-2015-statement/ fails to include some rather interesting points, chiefly what about the rest of the cardano, other than the rng ? has it been ordered ? is it to be ordered soon ? [03:23]
assbot No Such lAbs (S.NSA), May 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1dkFxkj ) [03:23]
mircea_popescu jurov no problems. [03:24]
mircea_popescu your offering is muchly appreciated. [03:24]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155715 << http://trilema.com/2014/the-great-post-of-rebuttals/#selection-243.0-243.275 [03:33]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 01:00:02; trinque: williamdunne: on the one hand there's a superficial "did I make it do something, and did it 'work'" [03:33]
scoopbot_revived Nocturnal revelation http://trilema.com/2015/nocturnal-revelation/ [03:33]
assbot The great post of rebuttals on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1dkFRPT ) [03:33]
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mircea_popescu every stupidity's excused by youth, people genuinely think the 80s were cool just because that's the first time they got laid. people actually used to think bellbottoms look hot because they remembered them filled with round butts of the fillies they cared about, back in that age. [03:34]
mircea_popescu let's not confuse the humanity we see reflected in the eyes of the beast with the actual beast. [03:34]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155723 << this is bad design in principle, merely asking this question. if you visualise the stuff of design as a graph, what this does is introduce a cyclicity in it, which makes the graph no longer computable, or for that matter usable. [03:50]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 01:04:22; williamdunne: Would there be any particular benefit to that in its intended usage? JSON/MsgPack/whatever all work fine with anything I can imagine being necessary on the web [03:50]
mircea_popescu you may never consider "the benefit" of design when designing, in these terms. [03:51]
mircea_popescu to understand why, think of someone making a map. he doesn't ask "does this rock benefit anyone or may i just omit it from my map ?" because while the thing may not benefit, the omission sinks ships. [03:51]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155785 << dude check out the "leader" factory. i wish to know, are these leaded leaders or unleaded leaders ? [03:54]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 03:09:48; assbot: 7 Bitcoin Leaders Speak Up On Bitcoin Block Size Debate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqXSd6 ) [03:54]
* mircea_popescu remembers a quainter time, back when to be a leader one first had to be followed. a time when "being certified" was another way to say "being insane". stuff like that. [03:55]
punkman they get followed on twitter! [03:55]
mircea_popescu oh nm. my bad. [03:56]
mircea_popescu i don't understand how the world works. [03:56]
mircea_popescu in other news, fresh from the ranch of unmanly grips, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqczh9dc1m1qc6pb2o1_1280.jpg [03:58]
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mircea_popescu "The libertarian Bitcoinists need to get out of their bubble. Yes, they created BItcoin, but it doesn't belong to them, it belongs to anybody and everybody, and it simply can't live on existing as it did in 2013." [04:01]
mircea_popescu herp. [04:01]
mircea_popescu dear world : fuck you. you will adapt to every nook and crany of our thought. ESPECIALLY the really painful, apparently gratuitous ones. love, ~the "libertarians". [04:01]
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mircea_popescu and to round off the bellbottoms point from before : and all sorts of things that AREN'T stupidities, various tiny gems ensconced in the broader turd get washed out with the water. [04:16]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform you mean defect free batch ? [11:45]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha there you are [11:46]
mircea_popescu hai! [11:46]
asciilifeform the above essentially sums to 'the problems of poverty' [11:48]
mircea_popescu let me do teh summing hm ? [11:49]
asciilifeform sum away. [11:49]
mircea_popescu so, didja mean a fedect free batch ? or else did all the items meanwhile turn defective / [11:49]
asciilifeform i mean that we have a pad defect rate of about 15 percent. [11:49]
asciilifeform if the rng batch is any indication of general quality of the vendor. [11:50]
mircea_popescu well if the rng is 30ish and the board 100, we could easily expect 3^2 that many defects in the board. [11:50]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, what's the plan with it currently ? [11:51]
asciilifeform this isn't lethal, but it does call for certain revisions in mainboard design. presently, i have reopened it, adding test points. and considering splitting mainboard in two, even. (also for testability) [11:51]
mircea_popescu hm [11:51]
asciilifeform this takes serious thought. [11:52]
* asciilifeform does not often do 'serious thought' [11:52]
mircea_popescu so basically, you're preparing a more mf-friendly board design (mostly to improve testability) and intend to have them try make half a dozen or something ? [11:52]
asciilifeform aha. [11:52]
mircea_popescu you know, seeing how they seem to replace defects etc, it would not be the end of the world to blow a few btc on just ordering that half dozen as is [11:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: see above re: btc [11:53]
mircea_popescu we end up with 6 functioning boards in 3 shipments out of 54 duds, so what. [11:53]
mircea_popescu i can arrange for them to get a wire, what's teh big deal. [11:53]
asciilifeform btc is 'after-the-war-money' for me [11:53]
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asciilifeform the big deal is that we're dangerously undercapitalized. [11:54]
mircea_popescu we are ? [11:55]
asciilifeform aha. [11:55]
mircea_popescu i dun see it. how do these people get paid anyway ? paypal ? or what is it ? [11:55]
asciilifeform visa. [11:55]
asciilifeform iirc - only it. [11:56]
mircea_popescu you asked ? [11:56]
asciilifeform i asked the www, l0l [11:56]
mircea_popescu no, mf. [11:56]
mircea_popescu says on their site or something ? [11:57]
* asciilifeform puts this on list to ask [11:57]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile, who wants to do buy me ~1k worth of parts with this outfit ? [11:57]
mircea_popescu was complaining about exchanges earlier, williamdunne ? danielpbarron ? [11:57]
asciilifeform that's the thing, buying 1000 units from mf is suicidally stupid [11:58]
mircea_popescu 1k dollars dood, not 1k units. [11:58]
mircea_popescu what, they're a dollar a pop ? [11:58]
asciilifeform l0l no. [11:58]
mircea_popescu well so then. [11:58]
mircea_popescu you spec an order of boards meanwhile to be ~1k [11:58]
asciilifeform 1k dollars doesn't need help, it comes out of my own piggy. [11:59]
mircea_popescu .... [11:59]
mircea_popescu im confused as to the actual problem is then [11:59]
asciilifeform the actual problem is that the sapper gets to err two or three times, at best [11:59]
mircea_popescu yes yes but the sapper doesn't get to contemplate his fate for too long and remain a sapper. [11:59]
mircea_popescu gotta order some boards. [11:59]
mircea_popescu nobody forces them to use em if they're broken, but we gotta know. [12:00]
asciilifeform think of it as venus mission. the probe is allowed to burn, yes, but needs to transmit some useful data before burns up. [12:00]
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mircea_popescu an you judge that ordering a few boards to produce a few prototype cardanos is not useful data ? [12:01]
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asciilifeform it is useful data if i can expect at least one working board in the batch. [12:02]
mircea_popescu well inasmuch as they seem to replace duds, i think we can expect. [12:02]
mircea_popescu this is a business, not a tech decision. they've not run with a hundred, can be trusted with a k. [12:03]
mircea_popescu if they run with it, a well. what's called a write-off. [12:03]
asciilifeform currently waiting to see what they will say re: the cause of the five dud rng. [12:03]
mircea_popescu aha. [12:03]
mircea_popescu just, you know, teh nobles are getting restless. [12:03]
asciilifeform after these in fact come back, in working order, we carry on with step 2. [12:03]
asciilifeform meanwhile looking at other manufacturing houses aiming to compete with mf. [12:04]
mircea_popescu sounds liek a plan [12:04]
asciilifeform the restless folks are also invited to visit #b-a (or my personal mailbox, gpg plz.) [12:05]
asciilifeform but i believe that i have explained the basics. [12:05]
mircea_popescu i believe so. [12:07]
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mircea_popescu an' in other news... wife trainin' http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md9261g2Uf1rfc12eo1_400.gif [12:11]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARLoIP ) [12:11]
shinohai At risk of sounding stupid, are these rng boards meant to generate keys in an airgapped manner, safe from those who are trying to break/weaken encryption? [12:11]
mircea_popescu !s cardano [12:12]
assbot 514 results for 'cardano' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cardano [12:12]
mircea_popescu shinohai ^ (see the oldest pages). also http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/ and ulterior s.nsa reports [12:12]
assbot S.NSA first product - The Cardano on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARLsZ5 ) [12:12]
shinohai ty reading nau [12:13]
shinohai I can see the advantages of a from-scratch board tho. I have seen various forms of this with arduinos, et all. But that leaves open the possibility of the hardware you are building on being compromised. [12:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform shockingly enough, the muryokoin in muryokoin.org is a... temple in koyasan [12:15]
mircea_popescu wut teh fuck. [12:15]
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mircea_popescu (and the shumitsu aka pearl of honesty was, at the time, the head honzo) [12:16]
* asciilifeform brb, food [12:17]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155945 << eh come on. we arrange for you to move in with one of the dc area sluts for a coupla months, save on rent :D [12:20]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 14:25:34; asciilifeform: if it is on account of some imperfection in the design, however minute - different matter [12:20]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155952 << it could be made to mill finer but only with addition of particular apparatus. which can just as well be added as a standalone different mill being fed the prequalified choice grains. so let it be, we get to it once the world fails at doing anything useful with its time yet again, in a year or w/e. [12:22]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 14:37:49; asciilifeform: as it is, half the time it sees 4294967297 and - naturally - stops there [12:22]
shinohai ;;later tell WolfeGoethe One day I shall like to make your MacBookPro go to sleep forever. XXXxxx [12:24]
gribble The operation succeeded. [12:24]
mircea_popescu heh [12:25]
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-assbot- You voiced vekuso for 30 minutes. [12:34]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156029 << probably diddled by request of jp in connection with investigation of 'aum' or the 1,001 other similar weirdo orgs there [12:34]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 15:12:35; mircea_popescu: (and the shumitsu aka pearl of honesty was, at the time, the head honzo) [12:34]
mircea_popescu it's a retreat for some high level computer prograsmmers. [12:35]
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mircea_popescu kinda surprised you dun know it by name, on the grounds that afaik it's the only people doing what you do for a living, outside of russia [12:35]
asciilifeform it isn't publicly known, afaik. and, my not being in their wot, how would i possibly know of it until now. [12:36]
mircea_popescu by now phuctor's dredged up enough material for a spy novel. "what does muryokoin temple, the australian pirate party and debian/gnu have in common ?" [12:36]
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asciilifeform and apple bug tip hotline, lol [12:36]
shinohai https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.11.0rc1/doc/release-notes.md#privacy-stream-isolation-for-tor [12:36]
assbot bitcoin/release-notes.md at v0.11.0rc1 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARP1P2 ) [12:36]
shinohai sorry, wrong window [12:37]
asciilifeform shinohai: since you did link it... here's a mega-question for 'tor' enthusiasts. what's to stop a 'malicious' (diddles traffic) node from routing its circuits -back into tor-, and having some other exit end up looking like the guilty party ? [12:38]
asciilifeform (question pertains to exit nodes, naturally) [12:38]
shinohai That's exactly what I was discussing with someone. [12:38]
asciilifeform it's a rather obvious question [12:39]
asciilifeform and i have never seen anyone attempt to answer it. [12:39]
shinohai tor is kinda flawed in that respect. [12:39]
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asciilifeform likewise, it is trivial to construct an exit node which only doctors traffic on very specific and rare occasions [12:39]
asciilifeform and when human operator is nearly certain [12:39]
shinohai bad operators (read: govs most likely) have every reason to do so [12:40]
asciilifeform say, it watches for the 'captcha' that google virtually always throws at tor users [12:40]
asciilifeform (coming from known exits) [12:40]
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asciilifeform and only begins to mitm -after captcha solved- [12:40]
asciilifeform no automated inspection bot will notice the malicious exit then. [12:40]
shinohai Because 99% of idiots still have js enabled ? [12:40]
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asciilifeform 1,001 variations on this theme possible. [12:40]
asciilifeform the very notion that there is any 'detection of malicious exits' worth half a sparrow's fart in the wind, or could be, is lunacy [12:41]
asciilifeform ok this is pure gold: [12:42]
asciilifeform 'Because release 0.10.0 and later makes use of headers-first synchronization and parallel block download (see further), the block files and databases are not backwards-compatible with pre-0.10 versions of Bitcoin Core or other software. Blocks will be stored on disk out of order (in the order they are received, really), which makes it incompatible with some tools or other programs... The block index database will now hold head [12:42]
asciilifeform ers for which no block is stored on disk, which earlier versions won't support.' [12:42]
asciilifeform mega-l0l! [12:43]
shinohai Of course they arent! [12:43]
mircea_popescu eh, this'd be a lot harder hitting if you know... people didn't use retarded shit like whatever that thing was bothering copypaste [12:44]
mircea_popescu "install our buggy windows software, become part of a botnet" [12:44]
shinohai What's Windows? [12:44]
copypaste The Register, BBC and some other places wrote about that [12:45]
copypaste http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32958624 [12:45]
assbot Hola rocked by botnet accusations - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARQGnD ) [12:45]
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copypaste http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/29/hola_vpn_used_8chan_takedown_botnet_or_not/ [12:45]
assbot 'Free' VPN Hola is LITERALLY flogging access to users' devices • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARQHbg ) [12:45]
copypaste yee [12:45]
shinohai I was lmfao that this 15 yo kid hacked that up good. [12:46]
copypaste oh yeah [12:46]
mircea_popescu copypaste not bad. [12:46]
mircea_popescu just sayin, people imagining pointing out to idiot tor users how insecure that shit is would persuade anyone ? shit, hola got 8 million users with 8 million exploitable holes in it. [12:46]
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shinohai Thoughts on i2p here? [12:50]
copypaste Hard to use and hogs RAM. Requires a significant investment of bandwidth as well [12:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: entirely different animals. there are folks using tor exits who -really- ought to know better. [12:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the 8chan users are collectively worth what ? [12:51]
copypaste like in BTC value? [12:52]
copypaste most are young people or in college, so probably not much per capita [12:52]
shinohai It's a lot of java, if that alone isn't enough for me to have never really study it. [12:53]
copypaste yeah. All Java applications hog RAM simply due to overhead of the JVM [12:53]
shinohai @ mircea_popescu : did you read the compliments from your adoring fans on r/bitcoin this morning ? [13:00]
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shinohai lol blockchain.info (0 connections) [13:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform on the internet, dogs. [13:07]
mircea_popescu for instance, im not on tor, have occasionally derped on imageboards. same of you i would guess. [13:08]
shinohai I hav lurked around tor but their is little excitement there for me. Mostly space cadets and libertarians of the worst kind. [13:09]
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* asciilifeform finally grasped the point of the 'bolt mod' for 'ibm model m' keyboard. was cleaning one that has not been cleaned in a decade. keys, chassis - easy, tub of dish detergent, three days. mechanism - washed in nonpolar organics. and that's when a dozen plastic rivets fell right off. [13:32]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156091 << i probably should have been more specific. meant, what -their data- was worth. [13:33]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 15:48:47; copypaste: most are young people or in college, so probably not much per capita [13:33]
asciilifeform i don't give a fuck how many gold rings tor users are wearing. [13:33]
mircea_popescu lol gold rings [13:34]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156099 << what in the name of satan is a 'space cadet' ? [13:34]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 16:05:26; shinohai: I hav lurked around tor but their is little excitement there for me. Mostly space cadets and libertarians of the worst kind. [13:34]
shinohai @ asciilifeform space cadet: those that sit around in dnm's and put god knows what into their system. [13:35]
asciilifeform dnm ? [13:35]
shinohai dark net market [13:35]
asciilifeform and wai wat, wtf, how does one 'lurk around tor' [13:37]
shinohai Well, if one wants to be informed, you check it out for yourself right? [13:38]
asciilifeform tor is this thing where tcp is bounced via three machines, selected by shitgnomiferous mega-turd of a client, over ssl (ditto) [13:38]
* mircea_popescu gets his popped corns. [13:38]
asciilifeform or was shinohai speaking of some forum devoted to the subject [13:39]
asciilifeform rather than tor per se [13:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform plastic rivets are possibly the one stupid thing mostly saying "80s" to me. [13:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as if anyone cancelled plastic rivets! [13:39]
asciilifeform sadly [13:39]
mircea_popescu wtf who ever thought "o look, this zamac is too strong! we need a shittier replacement!" [13:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my understanding is that this was done to avoid the work of tensioning the bolts correctly [13:40]
asciilifeform the membrane (yes, there is a membrane deep inside 'model m') must be pressed to the steel 'anvil' evenly in all places, as far as is possible [13:40]
asciilifeform with bolts, somebody's gotta sit there with a dynamometer wrench and do the deed [13:41]
asciilifeform with plastic rivets, they had, presumably, a vacuum plate (think 'air hockey' table in reverse) and a hot iron. [13:41]
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asciilifeform shinohai: pray tell, what is a 'libertarian of the wost kind' ? [13:42]
asciilifeform *worst [13:42]
shinohai @ asciilifeform the kind that parrot everything they hear on reddit [13:43]
shinohai and make everyone look bad [13:43]
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shinohai Those that tightened the tinfoil hats on too tightly, and it has forever left an indelible mark upon their brains. [13:45]
asciilifeform https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/dfdb6dd052416da726db6c2e5f76e875cf08c507 << so they're still using openssl. [13:45]
assbot build: disable optional use of gmp in internal secp256k1 build · bitcoin/bitcoin@dfdb6dd · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HcgJqD ) [13:45]
asciilifeform shinohai: elaborate? [13:45]
asciilifeform https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/75a4d512cfc9a451fa627a3487ffed102cc67cab << so the 'lock time' idiocy made it in? [13:46]
assbot Fix off-by-one error w/ nLockTime in the wallet · bitcoin/bitcoin@75a4d51 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HcgR9x ) [13:46]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920116 << see also [13:46]
assbot Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element [13:46]
shinohai There was this one guy who never shut up about "'murica is spraying chemicals on us every day" [13:46]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920112 [13:46]
assbot Logged on 13-11-2014 19:04:36; *: asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works' [13:46]
shinohai I just don't get the appeal I guess. [13:47]
asciilifeform the appeal of what ? [13:47]
shinohai tor. sitting around on internet forums doing buying drugs with btc and hating on the government. [13:48]
* asciilifeform associates tor mainly with spammers [13:48]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://templelodging.com/spot/05kansai/koyasan014.html [13:51]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HchDDE ) [13:51]
shinohai Hmmm .... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6231 [13:51]
assbot Increase DEFAULT_BLOCK_MAX_SIZE to 1MB by chriswheeler · Pull Request #6231 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HchGze ) [13:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if it's a s33kr17 k00l d00dz hidey-hole, this is a well-kept s33kr17 [13:52]
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shinohai He know's 1337. We can trust him. [13:52]
asciilifeform long term question for mircea_popescu et. al: who is still manufacturing mc68000 ? -other- than freescale corp. ? [13:53]
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asciilifeform (zilog is still making z80, nominally pin-compatible with the 1976 variant, yes.) [13:53]
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asciilifeform i, for one, have not located any maker of true mc68k other than freescale today. (the eeprom-on-board variants are not 'true' for the purpose of this query.) [13:55]
asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo ^^^^ [13:55]
gribble The operation succeeded. [13:55]
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williamdunne was complaining about exchanges earlier, williamdunne ? danielpbarron ? <<< hey? [14:39]
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williamdunne I probably should be complaining about one particular exchange, but I'll give them a little more time to fix it, and if they don't I'll be calling them out on their bullshit [14:46]
danielpbarron I'm interested in the 1k thing [14:46]
williamdunne 1k thing? [14:49]
danielpbarron the thign you pasted is re: buying 1k USD worth of bitcoin [14:49]
shinohai So I found this http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-howto.txt on your site danielpbarron, and I just so happen to have a few spare drives already. [14:50]
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williamdunne Oh right, mircea_popescu if you need to buy/sell 1k of bitcoin I can probably get that done for you [14:50]
williamdunne Dependent on how you need to receive the money/what you need to order etc [14:51]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron williamdunne it'd be for cardano parts, but on alf's say so. thanks! [15:17]
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kalki gracias. [15:20]
mircea_popescu sure. [15:20]
mircea_popescu who're you ? [15:20]
kalki Just a person been looking at btc since late 2013... eventually discovered Trilema, contravex, and qntra, which led me here... now just trying to learn to swim in the deeper water [15:22]
mircea_popescu how's that coming along ? [15:26]
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mircea_popescu http://bash.org/?203247 heh [15:27]
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punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156135 << that's always been there, but it's not enough for their micropayment-channels and other hare-brained schemes. so they want to add more. [15:31]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 16:42:13; asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/75a4d512cfc9a451fa627a3487ffed102cc67cab << so the 'lock time' idiocy made it in? [15:31]
kalki well It's going - its a bit tough, but that is welcome considering that before I was limited to the level of discussion that happens on twitter or various "btc news" sites... I love the word, and REALLY appreciate the use of it I find in these circles... love the challenge - just hope I get a grip and feel confident enough as far as understanding the depths/possibilities/threats etc of what is happeningbefore the rocket leaves [15:33]
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mircea_popescu shush you libertarian. if you made it it doesn't belong to you, it belongs TO EVERYONE!11!!1 - and what that means is... yeah you've guessed it. [15:34]
thestringpuller ^- someone's in a good mood today [15:34]
mircea_popescu !gettrust kalki [15:34]
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mircea_popescu kalki you should prolly register. [15:34]
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kalki mircea_pepescu Yes I need to. Will do soon! [15:36]
decimation asciilifeform: I have a model m on order, should arrive soon [15:38]
decimation do you think it is worth the time to 'preemptively' install bolt mod? [15:38]
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davout punkman: there's two sides to the nlocktime thing [15:51]
davout the one that's always been there and the 'improved' version [15:51]
punkman the "improved" is not yet in, is it? [15:52]
mircea_popescu iirc it made it in with 0.10 [15:52]
mircea_popescu which was going to be "major version" but then some sense got slapped into the derp rangers. [15:52]
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ascii_modem http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/41C3308E5F375899710919E1484F78A1DC042B81EDDC432F38F75D4BDA9B29FC [15:55]
assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1FFxrta ) [15:55]
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ascii_modem http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156192 << mega-kolhoz l0l [15:56]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 18:30:10; mircea_popescu: shush you libertarian. if you made it it doesn't belong to you, it belongs TO EVERYONE!11!!1 - and what that means is... yeah you've guessed it. [15:56]
decimation herr stoppler is a 'pirate party' member [15:57]
decimation http://stoppe-gp.de/ [15:57]
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mircea_popescu ascii_modem it's stunning to me this. the cattle seriously wish to behave as if in fact the kolhoz is the reality and what, we've missed the memo or something ? [15:57]
mircea_popescu nuts. [15:57]
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ascii_modem it is the only reality they cab conceive of [15:58]
mircea_popescu bitcoin belongs to everyone like my sperm belongs to every woman : if she's on her knees and i feel like it. [15:58]
ascii_modem logically - because in other realities, they are biodiesel. [15:58]
ascii_modem 'anthropic principle' of a kind [15:58]
ascii_modem http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156199 << -if- you know how. otherwise it's a waste of precious and entirely nonrenewable resource (model m) [15:59]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 18:34:45; decimation: do you think it is worth the time to 'preemptively' install bolt mod? [15:59]
decimation ascii_modem: there's no equality like everyone swimming in the same fermenter [15:59]
ascii_modem there are no reasonable substitutes... [16:00]
decimation ascii_modem: yeah the mod looks pretty time consuming [16:00]
ascii_modem when they run out - that's all. [16:00]
decimation none of the guides I saw mention using a torque driver [16:00]
ascii_modem hands are an approximate torque wrench [16:01]
ascii_modem if they're any good [16:01]
ascii_modem bbl [16:01]
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mircea_popescu today i learned there's a .tn [16:28]
mircea_popescu "Like many (too many) other features in Wikipedia, the cite templates were created by a handful of enthusiastic editors without a clear analysis of cost/benefits, and posted by them as if they were a "consensus" --- which they most emphatically are *not*. Then many other editors started using them in the mistaken impression that they are somehow good for Wikipedia --- which they most emphatically are *not*. I used to d [16:31]
mircea_popescu o that myself until I realized the sheer idiocy of those templates, and what the word "consensus" actually means in the Wikipedia guidelines." [16:31]
mircea_popescu funny how pervasive this anti-pattern actually is. [16:31]
mircea_popescu funny how the memory hole effect works - people capable of spotting it in a field where they're remotely trained still fall for it in ALL.OTHER.FIELDS. [16:32]
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jurov !rate Birdman 1 help with eulora on win32 [17:05]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/de552facbec313eb [17:05]
jurov !v assbot:jurov.rate.Birdman.1:2578d6eb28c39a9dc8019704a0791f65f509d16dedc4869f46b9b3fd5689836f [17:06]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for Birdman with note: help with eulora on win32 [17:06]
jurov http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows << to anyone interested: he got it running using these steps [17:07]
assbot Eulora for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1cE14DE ) [17:07]
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mircea_popescu !gettrust birdman [17:08]
assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user birdman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=birdman | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/birdman/ [17:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100150 @ 0.00037082 = 37.1376 BTC [+] {3} [17:23]
mircea_popescu an' in other news, http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc5mm1rWzl1re0c2uo1_500.gif [17:23]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1cE1LNh ) [17:24]
mircea_popescu !rate Birdman 1 Eulorian [17:24]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/5d4f1c111acd7bc8 [17:24]
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assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for Birdman with note: Eulorian [17:24]
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mircea_popescu jurov "no comment no trackback" << except i left you one, and it looks kinda weird. [17:38]
jurov everything is moderated [17:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67814 @ 0.00035346 = 23.9695 BTC [-] {4} [17:48]
mircea_popescu a k [17:49]
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jurov it uploads 20kB/s O.o [17:54]
jurov now it's picking up [17:56]
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jurov mircea_popescu: all is uploaded, Eulora-June12015-win32.7z and cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe should be replaced with download links [17:59]
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jurov what did you do comment (i could not find it) or trackback? [18:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57339 @ 0.00035106 = 20.1294 BTC [-] [18:23]
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shinohai added to pr0nbot: https://i.imgur.com/g94RGlL.jpg [18:46]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTumhJ ) [18:46]
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trinque fixing this text encoding derpitude [18:47]
shinohai I'm just now getting comfy w/assbot. I was assured that assbot accepts all forms of ass. (x3!) [18:49]
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trinque has it been stress tested with a wide sampling of asses? [18:50]
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shinohai no. I am attempting to build a worthy bot. I was inspired by danielpbarron's node project - to use this minaturized wizardry to construct a dedicated pr0n node.... [18:52]
decimation asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/a/yEwTt < internals of that termtek 635 serial terminal [18:53]
assbot tk635 inside - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1ASEH9y ) [18:53]
decimation it has an 80188, no fans, apparently EPROM [18:53]
shinohai https://i.imgur.com/WHYfqVF.jpg [18:53]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ASEQK1 ) [18:53]
trinque helicopter covered in sensors of some kind just flew over [18:54]
trinque god bless america [18:54]
shinohai I feel so safe and free. [18:54]
trinque had some kind of (radar? rf sniffing?) proboscis [18:55]
decimation the only thing weird about the terminal is the resolution of the display, only certain monitors seem to be able to sync properly [18:55]
decimation trinque: if it was just a tube sticking out in front it is probably for mid-air refueling (assuming it is military) [18:55]
trinque did appear to be military [18:56]
shinohai We would never do anything bad or malicious with our JavaScript, and if you ever run into any problems then feel free to <<< has anyone ever tested this? [18:56]
trinque the guy had equipment of some kind underneath the body of the copter, and something under the nose [18:56]
trinque should've taken a pic [18:56]
decimation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M4ljh-vliQ < bigass heli refueling (turn off audio!) [18:57]
assbot Legacy KC-130 refuels CH-53 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTvXnL ) [18:57]
trinque nah I've seen that [18:57]
trinque pretty cool [18:57]
trinque this was some wide panel under the nose, rounded [18:58]
shinohai I live near a small airport, so I am used to hearing planes. [18:58]
decimation ah. was it a bell jet ranger? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_206#/media/File:LAPD_Bell_206_Jetranger.jpg [18:58]
assbot Bell 206 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTw8zf ) [18:58]
decimation many of the media helicopters from local tv stations have external cameras now [18:59]
trinque nah, this was painted all a muted gray, different shape, bulkier [18:59]
trinque grayish brown [18:59]
trinque media tend to have more prominent markings [18:59]
decimation like a eurocopter dolphin https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/USCG_MH-65C_Helicopter_6608_photo_D_Ramey_Logan.jpg [19:00]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ASFPtE ) [19:00]
decimation ^ note it has "inboard" tail rotor [19:00]
trinque there ya go [19:00]
trinque pretty much that guy [19:00]
trinque bulkier equipment under the nose [19:00]
trinque and brown-gray [19:01]
decimation interesting. what part of the country are you in? [19:01]
trinque portland, or [19:01]
decimation well whoever it was they had alot of cash to burn [19:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62200 @ 0.00036691 = 22.8218 BTC [-] [19:06]
decimation trinque: apparently cbp flies something somewhat similar https://www.flickr.com/photos/mdl_photography/4716744732/ [19:07]
assbot U.S. Customs & Border Protection Eurocopter AS350 B2 Astar… | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTxzO8 ) [19:08]
trinque interesting [19:08]
trinque there's a state air national guard base nearby [19:09]
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trinque ^ back shortly [19:12]
mod6 Update on gentoo build on physical box: so trinque & I worked on trying to get this Grub situtation figured out for quite a while lastnight. Seems that maybe something with grub2 doesn't like my hardware. Grub 0.9x is no longer supported... so I dunno. [19:14]
cazalla jurov, i think it's working! (eulora runs on win7) [19:14]
mod6 I'm gonna try a few other things, might need to get this figured out on another machine. We'll see. [19:14]
mod6 Will update again as I have them. [19:14]
mod6 Thanks to trinque for the help. [19:15]
trinque np [19:15]
shinohai @ mod6 anything interesting on the bitcoind side of things? [19:15]
mod6 Not of this moment, ... there was a completion of a full sync completed with asciilifeform's OrphanageThermonuke & TX Orphanage Amputation patches applied to v0.5.3.1-RELEASE. Nmon charts can be found here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/test/perf/v0_5_3_1-RELEASE-Plus-OrphanageThermonuke-And-TXOrphanageAmputation/20150604/ [19:18]
assbot Index of /test/perf/v0_5_3_1-RELEASE-Plus-OrphanageThermonuke-And-TXOrphanageAmputation/20150604 ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTyYnO ) [19:18]
mod6 I'm gonna work on trying to get IgProf going here now. [19:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25236 @ 0.00037088 = 9.3595 BTC [+] {2} [19:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71393 @ 0.0003718 = 26.5439 BTC [+] {3} [19:20]
shinohai My sync is complete. My next project is a few mini nodes. [19:20]
shinohai It runs beautiful. It speaks to my minimalist heart. [19:21]
mod6 ah cool :] [19:21]
mod6 you're gonna get a pogo going? i still need to get a chance to get mine fired up. [19:21]
mod6 too many different things I gotta get done first. [19:21]
mod6 heheh. [19:21]
shinohai Yeah, I'm gonna try the pogo, I got it running *sorta* in sl4a [19:22]
trinque I need to re-image my pogo [19:22]
trinque I forget what IP it comes up as :p [19:22]
trinque rather, which it expects the netcat it connects to at [19:22]
mod6 sl4a 'eh [19:23]
shinohai yeah go ahead an insult me xD [19:23]
mod6 naw, i think it's interesting. let us know how that ends up. [19:23]
trinque >minimalist [19:24]
trinque >android [19:24]
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* shinohai *shrugs* [19:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52250 @ 0.000372 = 19.437 BTC [+] [19:25]
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* trinque chants awaken [19:26]
trinque there he is [19:26]
shinohai Maybe one day I'll be so hardcore I can run it on a TI [19:26]
trinque just giving you shit [19:27]
trinque you could give the buildroot instructions a whirl for the pogo [19:27]
shinohai I had never even heard of a pogo before. [19:27]
shinohai tbh [19:27]
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decimation asciilifeform: the construction of the terminal is nice, 19 gauge steel [19:29]
trinque decimation: what'd that run ya? [19:29]
decimation it was like $60 shipped on ebay [19:30]
decimation probably could get it cheaper if you could dumpster dive in the right spots [19:30]
decimation it appears to be from a point of sale terminal [19:30]
trinque cool [19:30]
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nubbins` got an information-finding task if anyone's up for it [19:31]
trinque I might be crazy, but I *think* my dream mobile device is nothing but a terminal emulator that can ssh elsewhere [19:31]
ben_vulpes 1500 lines! [19:32]
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nubbins` inkjet printers have waste ink counters that are incremented when you do a head cleaning [19:34]
nubbins` once the counter gets high enough, you can't print anymore until you reset the counter [19:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38200 @ 0.000372 = 14.2104 BTC [+] [19:34]
shinohai and? [19:35]
nubbins` for newer printers, you generally get a free "wic reset" program and then purchase keys (~$7ea in quantity) that are good for single resets [19:35]
nubbins` but i think this is bullshit and i don't want to pay some company $7 every time i want to reset a counter [19:35]
shinohai oh so you need a wic reset program ? [19:35]
nubbins` no, i have one [19:35]
nubbins` well. [19:35]
shinohai nice [19:35]
nubbins` i need one that doesn't require the purchase of keys ;/ [19:35]
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nubbins` epson has a wic reset utility but it doesn't cover newer printers [19:36]
* shinohai doesn't even own a printer. [19:37]
trinque seems like we're at the point that you could pick anything to manufacture in the tech sector, and provided you *actually produce the thing named on the box* you'd be the greatest product in that space [19:39]
trinque what a sad fucking state [19:39]
trinque nubbins`: so this thing is just some arbitrary amount of bytes in flash somewhere that must be reset periodically? [19:39]
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shinohai I made the phastest btc miner EVAH! https://i.imgur.com/chaUJhn.png [19:41]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTBJFX ) [19:41]
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mod6 HEH [19:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.000372 = 7.7748 BTC [+] [19:43]
ben_vulpes open source is an open invitation to waste your life debugging stupid shti << my life [19:44]
trinque mircea_popescu: #4 will deedify at the hour [19:46]
trinque I sent it through to reproduce the exception (after re-uploading it to dpaste) and... it worked [19:47]
trinque actually strike that, lemme find the original link and I'll see if I can break it again [19:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28653 @ 0.00037202 = 10.6595 BTC [+] {2} [19:52]
trinque mircea_popescu: ah so mpex.ws does not say Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 [19:53]
trinque in its response [19:53]
trinque just text/plain [19:53]
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shinohai ;;bcstats [19:53]
gribble Current Blocks: 359753 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 1110 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 59 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48688761596.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.30969 [19:53]
trinque I can probably obviate worrying about that by just trying to decode everything as utf-8 [19:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68900 @ 0.00037226 = 25.6487 BTC [+] {2} [19:53]
shinohai welp blockchain.info is back up [19:54]
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nubbins` <+trinque> nubbins`: so this thing is just some arbitrary amount of bytes in flash somewhere that must be reset periodically? <<< the waste ink sponge eventually will overflow... unless you add an external waste ink tank. [19:54]
trinque ah got ya [19:55]
nubbins` but mine was at 85%-ish when it stopped printing [19:55]
trinque but of course! heh [19:55]
nubbins` most consumer-level printers never get close to filling their sponge [19:55]
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trinque by not giving you an override, they're just saving you from yourself [19:55]
nubbins` they either clog up or get broken or sold/trashed before things get to that point [19:55]
nubbins` but if you print enormous amounts of heavy-coverage paper [19:56]
nubbins` things can get outta hand [19:56]
nubbins` oh ALSO [19:57]
nubbins` totally would be interested in a service manual for this thing (epson 1430) [19:57]
nubbins` if anyone happens to know where to find such things [19:57]
mod6 ok igprof is built... now to just run it with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE... [20:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00037241 = 5.6606 BTC [+] [20:03]
scoopbot_revived Protected: Bitcoin Exchanges breaking agreements; BitFinex edition! http://thethug.life/lessons-are-for-schmucks/ [20:03]
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mod6 ok asciilifeform's igprof_hooks patch applied to v0.5.3.1-RELEASE [20:06]
mod6 building... [20:06]
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mod6 [ I'm running igprof with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE first as we know with this version the OOM-KILL signal is recieved. Maybe we can get a deeper glimpse to what's going on here. ] [20:08]
mod6 After a profile with vanilla v0.5.3.1-RELEASE, I'll further profile with the two Orphanage Patches. [20:09]
mod6 Unless anyone objects in the next 30 minutes or so. [20:09]
mod6 as as separate note, I will not be running NMON with this full-sync test -- I want to get as clean of a igprof profile as I can. Don't want any thing else to disturb it's collection. [20:11]
shinohai https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38nmxn/nyse_chairman_millennials_trust_bitcoin_more_than/crxbic1 [20:14]
assbot prisonsuit-rabbitman comments on NYSE Chairman: Millennials Trust Bitcoin More Than Fiat ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jvp8az ) [20:14]
shinohai so i can draw ponies and get paid btc for ppl to fap to? [20:15]
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trinque deedbot-: http://mpex.ws/assets/s.bbet-2FB7B452.txt [20:19]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvpFt0 ) [20:19]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [20:19]
trinque mircea_popescu: ^ [20:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18219 @ 0.00037241 = 6.7849 BTC [+] [20:23]
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mod6 alright, bitcoind build cleanly with the igprof_hooks patch applied. [20:28]
mod6 now to try to fire this thing up. [20:29]
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* shinohai crosses fingers [20:31]
ben_vulpes right on, mod6 [20:32]
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mod6 ok it's running. [20:36]
mod6 This is all I see so far: http://dpaste.com/1N346W0.txt [20:40]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvrPcc ) [20:40]
mod6 asciilifeform: check this out, does this look ok so far? ^^ [20:40]
mod6 it was executed like so: `nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -daemon -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log &` [20:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107200 @ 0.00036399 = 39.0197 BTC [-] {3} [20:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00036618 = 5.8223 BTC [+] [20:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33493 @ 0.000359 = 12.024 BTC [-] {2} [20:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86506 @ 0.00036604 = 31.6647 BTC [+] {2} [20:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135800 @ 0.00036917 = 50.1333 BTC [+] {4} [21:05]
ben_vulpes added to pr0nbot: https://i.imgur.com/g94RGlL.jpg << hardly porn [21:07]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTumhJ ) [21:07]
* williamdunne personally enjoys the teasy photos [21:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81057 @ 0.00036702 = 29.7495 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00035839 = 3.333 BTC [-] [21:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 198474 @ 0.00035777 = 71.008 BTC [-] {4} [21:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 286576 @ 0.00035199 = 100.8719 BTC [-] {4} [21:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46679 @ 0.00036702 = 17.1321 BTC [+] [21:36]
mircea_popescu better pronz http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8f9s1WVGr1qj9dtwo1_1280.jpg [21:46]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gs29fP ) [21:46]
mircea_popescu trinque cool! [21:46]
mircea_popescu deedbot- http://mpex.co/assets/s.bbet-1F2489E8.txt [21:46]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gs2fUR ) [21:47]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [21:47]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156275 << comment yes. [21:48]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 21:11:27; jurov: what did you do comment (i could not find it) or trackback? [21:48]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156346 << lol tell me about it. [21:51]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 22:17:56; mod6: too many different things I gotta get done first. [21:51]
cazalla williamdunne, leaves a bit to the imagination eh [21:52]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156390 << quite. [21:52]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 22:35:12; trinque: seems like we're at the point that you could pick anything to manufacture in the tech sector, and provided you *actually produce the thing named on the box* you'd be the greatest product in that space [21:52]
mircea_popescu that is exactly the point we're at - the collapse of "civilisation" won't even actually leave any sort of a hole. [21:52]
decimation that, and "it actually works" [21:52]
decimation the hole is constantly filled with chinese junk [21:53]
mircea_popescu which is how these things happen. it's not that the various people in the empire "left" the empire for the barbarians. [21:53]
williamdunne cazalla: Thats the one [21:53]
mircea_popescu it's that for anything but the verbiage - they didn't even know they were in an empire. [21:53]
decimation mircea_popescu: somewhere along the line people forgot how to make hydraulic concrete [21:54]
mircea_popescu ... [21:54]
mircea_popescu you just add fly ash ? [21:55]
decimation nobody built concrete aquaducts again until long after rome fell into the hole [21:55]
mircea_popescu oh oh. i see whast you meant now :p [21:57]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156407 << word. [21:57]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 22:49:55; trinque: I can probably obviate worrying about that by just trying to decode everything as utf-8 [21:57]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156424 << lulzwut! [21:58]
assbot Logged on 06-06-2015 22:59:07; scoopbot_revived: Protected: Bitcoin Exchanges breaking agreements; BitFinex edition! http://thethug.life/lessons-are-for-schmucks/ [21:58]
mircea_popescu williamdunne did scoop just rape your securitits ? [21:58]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: It did indeed [21:58]
williamdunne I shall punish my slave for its disobedience [21:58]
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mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdf1wz7eBc1rq6vz1o1_500.gif << slave punished for her disrobedience. [22:00]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1F1WyFO ) [22:00]
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williamdunne mircea_popescu: Scoop isn't that attractive [22:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00036361 = 14.3626 BTC [-] {2} [22:14]
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mircea_popescu !up Phrenico [22:42]
-assbot- You voiced Phrenico for 30 minutes. [22:42]
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Phrenico Hey, thanks. [22:43]
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trinque http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/5/18/traumatized-students-sue-california-district-for-support.html << lol, they're trying to get "emotional trauma" ruled a disability legally under the ADA, which apparently means you don't have to pass high school, and are due lots of expensive pills and therapy sessions to reinforce your narcissism [23:19]
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assbot Traumatized Students Sue CA. District For Support | Al Jazeera America ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2VMfM ) [23:19]
trinque go ahead kids! drain the thing! [23:19]
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williamdunne On that note, did you hear about the school that gave out laptops that students could take home, which automatically too photos every 15 minutes? [23:24]
trinque hahaha, no [23:27]
trinque doesn't surprise me one bit [23:27]
trinque http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/02/school-district-accused-of-issuing-webcam-laptops-to-spy-on-students/1#.VXOrZ60Viko [23:29]
assbot School district accused of spying on kids via laptop webcams ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2WLwv ) [23:29]
trinque "in fact has the ability to remotely activate the webcam contained in a student's personal laptop computer issued by the school district at any time it chose and to view and capture whatever images were in front of the webcam, all without the knowledge, permission or authorization of any persons then and there using the laptop computer." [23:29]
trinque you have to put that totalitarian fear in kids young [23:30]
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williamdunne Yes, well doing our job for us I guess [23:44]
williamdunne Fuck debit cards [23:44]
williamdunne Seriously [23:44]
williamdunne Keeps getting rejected even though I'm going through the VBV crap [23:44]
williamdunne I know, yes, it does look odd that I'm booking a flight from Prague to Bucharest [23:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00037276 = 13.1584 BTC [+] [23:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65200 @ 0.00035859 = 23.3801 BTC [-] [23:56]
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