Forum logs for 04 Feb 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
Gubidahubida | whats wrong with using paypal? | [00:00] |
* | ButtPirate (5db6be4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.182.190.74) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [00:00] |
ButtPirate | imsaguy imsaguy2 | [00:00] |
* | smickles is now known as smickles|idle | [00:02] |
Gubidahubida | is there anybody here who will sell me bitcoins? im new at this... | [00:03] |
rg | Gubidahubida: not with paypal | [00:04] |
* | smickles|idle is now known as smickles | [00:05] |
Gubidahubida | ok, fine... how do people usually buy them? | [00:05] |
smickles | moneypak | [00:05] |
rg | moneypak | [00:05] |
smickles | cash | [00:05] |
* | lunks (~lunks@189.24.61.82) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [00:06] |
Gubidahubida | goddammit... my local 7-eleven has those thingys. ill go buy one be back in 15 min lol | [00:06] |
* | Buglouse (~Buglouse@cpe-65-28-172-255.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [00:08] |
rg | [msg(gammag)] look fact remains | [00:09] |
rg | [GammaG(BellTolls@are.you.that.obsessed.with.me.still.dont.whois)] #2 if they | [00:09] |
rg | can prove redd didnt forward the BTC, those 2 guys | [00:09] |
rg | [msg(gammag)] you didnt send any btc | [00:09] |
rg | [GammaG(BellTolls@are.you.that.obsessed.with.me.still.dont.whois)] i will | [00:09] |
rg | happyily pay | [00:09] |
rg | [GammaG(BellTolls@are.you.that.obsessed.with.me.still.dont.whois)] 50-75% | [00:09] |
helo | hasn't GammaG's identity been pretty much pinned down (as far as LEO would be concerned) by the way he cashed out the moneypak? | [00:09] |
rg | so lets call gammag's bluff | [00:09] |
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Coolio- | gubidahubida: how many btc do you want? | [00:09] |
Coolio- | i'll sell you btc for cash | [00:09] |
Coolio- | no need to leave ur house if you have stamps at home | [00:10] |
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helo | rg: do you accept payments for a vps instance to the same address each month, so that automated payment would work? | [00:11] |
Mad7Scientist | how do you ban someone who has made their own rDNS like that | [00:12] |
rg | helo: no | [00:12] |
rg | a new address is gerneated for each invoice | [00:12] |
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smickles | "PROOF FRANCES" <- cracked me up | [00:16] |
* | phraust_ (~PhraustBy@50-73-43-138-utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [00:18] |
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rg | so gamamg claims that it was slamdesu | [00:20] |
rg | doing it all | [00:21] |
rg | slamdesu claims it was gammag | [00:21] |
rg | so i guess we just need to ban them both | [00:21] |
Cory | UnitClick: It cleared. But I will bear the risk of a chargeback for a few months. | [00:22] |
luke-jr | someone in the Tampa area want to meet up with me to make P2SH videos? :P | [00:22] |
rg | P2SH = church | [00:22] |
Mad7Scientist | It was all rg's fault | [00:23] |
vragnaroda | rg: lol @ that log | [00:23] |
Mad7Scientist | ban everyone | [00:24] |
vragnaroda | /mode +b *!*@* | [00:24] |
rg | vrag: theres more | [00:24] |
vragnaroda | There always is. | [00:24] |
BTCHero | lol | [00:24] |
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MBS | pm me if anyone wants to rent http://kimsufi.ie servers for BTC, $25/65/80 USD converted to BTC respectively | [00:25] |
rg | its ok | [00:25] |
rg | i have something special planned for GammG | [00:25] |
rg | s/he asked for it | [00:25] |
MBS | does it involve explosions or bandwidth or explosions of bandwidth | [00:25] |
ianthius | Cory, what's the deal with this spawn- character? | [00:26] |
rg | no | [00:26] |
* | os2 (~bookcolle@c-76-21-213-94.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [00:26] |
BTCHero | he just keeps spamming over and over | [00:26] |
BTCHero | saying want a vps/yada yada yada | [00:26] |
Cory | ianthius: We've traded before. Why? | [00:26] |
* | osmosis (~osmosis@c-67-171-179-254.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [00:26] |
ianthius | he is kinda douchey and doesn't really know much about vpns | [00:27] |
ianthius | he is using you as a reference for his buisness | [00:27] |
ianthius | fyi | [00:27] |
rg | WTF | [00:27] |
rg | cory is my reference! | [00:27] |
ianthius | haha | [00:27] |
ianthius | oh dear | [00:27] |
os2 | ;;guide | [00:27] |
Cory | What's going on? D: | [00:28] |
BTC_Bear | fyi = for everyones business, now :) | [00:28] |
* | klaus_trainer (~klausi@c230152.adsl.hansenet.de) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [00:28] |
Cory | Well, all I can say is that we've traded. If that's a reference, so be it. | [00:28] |
ianthius | the guy is pushy as hell and super impatient | [00:28] |
ianthius | he says you are a customer of his... | [00:28] |
ianthius | and you were idling in a channel co-operator with him | [00:28] |
Cory | I am. I've bought a BNC from him. | [00:29] |
ianthius | okay cool | [00:29] |
ianthius | just letting you know, i'm not criticizing | [00:29] |
ianthius | well i am criticizing him a bit | [00:29] |
vragnaroda | lol | [00:30] |
os2 | hi all. | [00:30] |
Cory | Thanks for the heads up. <3 | [00:30] |
os2 | How do I buy some bitcoins to start out with ? I mean the best way to get from zero coins to some coins ? | [00:30] |
os2 | moneypak ? | [00:31] |
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BTC_Bear | post an address usually works a little | [00:31] |
ianthius | os2, cut my blackberries | [00:31] |
ianthius | i'll pay you | [00:31] |
vragnaroda | os2: Don't put spaces before question marks in English. | [00:31] |
Cory | Why are BitVPS OpenVZ plans cheaper than the other VPSs? | [00:31] |
vragnaroda | Cory: Because they go through your shit and send statistics to Google. | [00:32] |
os2 | BTC_Bear address? | [00:32] |
BTC_Bear | os2: yes, a BitCoin address | [00:32] |
Mqrius | Anyone selling bitcoins for EUR sepa? | [00:32] |
os2 | ah like a wallet ? | [00:32] |
vragnaroda | os2: Often, if you post an address (like 1A8T8oNjQNsfmuwyYu7PbHH6iNsAkpwAn4) in the channel, someone will send you a few cBTC. | [00:32] |
Cory | But Cory doesn't like it. :( | [00:33] |
vragnaroda | vragnaroda doesn't like Cory speaking about himself in the third person without using /me. | [00:33] |
Mqrius | os2: Moneypak is the best idea, yes, when you're in the US. | [00:34] |
* | Cory , but, doesn't like it | [00:34] |
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BTC_Bear | put 'The' in front for greater effect. | [00:34] |
BTC_Bear | The Cory doesn't like it. | [00:34] |
os2 | 1P7672SCmyQY1CRjTxP1wTtnMuz8g4igsD | [00:34] |
slamdesu | rg im here now | [00:35] |
slamdesu | what's going on? | [00:35] |
jcpham | hi | [00:35] |
os2 | thanks guys. | [00:35] |
BTC_Bear | ;;tell os2 [gpg] | [00:36] |
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Mqrius | ;;buy 100 BTC at "((({mtgoxask} + {mtgoxbid}) / 2) 1line.txt derp-100x100.png derp-560x207.png derp.png dork-100x100.jpg dork-560x302.jpg dork.jpg logs2.txt logs3.txt logstory.txt logs.txt mysql psychology-and-psychiatry-100x100.jpg psychology-and-psychiatry-560x315.jpg psychology-and-psychiatry.jpg tangent-maybe-100x100.jpg tangent-maybe-560x242.jpg tangent-maybe.jpg tara-tara-10-560px.jpg tara-tara-10.jpg tara-tara-11-560px.jpg tara-tara-11.jpg tara-tara-12-560px.jpg tara-tara-12.jpg tara-tara-13-560px.jpg tara-tara-13.jpg tara-tara-14-560px.jpg tara-tara-14.jpg tara-tara-15-560px.jpg tara-tara-1-560px.jpg tara-tara-15.jpg tara-tara-16-560px.jpg tara-tara-16.jpg tara-tara-17-560px.jpg tara-tara-17.jpg tara-tara-18-560px.jpg tara-tara-18.jpg tara-tara-19-560px.jpg tara-tara-19.jpg tara-tara-1.jpg tara-tara-20-560px.jpg tara-tara-20.jpg tara-tara-21-560px.jpg tara-tara-21.jpg tara-tara-22-560px.jpg tara-tara-22.jpg tara-tara-23-560px.jpg tara-tara-23.jpg tara-tara-24-560px.jpg 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SEPA European transfer or local (Dutch) Transfer. Smaller amounts are no problem. Contact me on IRC or at Gmail.com@Nuntius.Marii #eu | [00:36] |
ianthius | os2, where are you? | [00:37] |
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ianthius | if you are near seattle i will sell to you in person | [00:37] |
Cory | slamdesu: What up with GammaG? | [00:39] |
slamdesu | Cory no fecking clue | [00:39] |
slamdesu | she's insane | [00:39] |
os2 | is gribble the bot I am supposed to authenticate to ? | [00:39] |
BTC_Bear | os2: yes, it might be better to try it in #bitcoin-otc-foyer | [00:40] |
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* | smickles is now known as smickles|idle | [00:44] |
* | smickles|idle is now known as smickles | [00:44] |
jcpham | you know what's awesome? | [00:46] |
jcpham | finding one b eer in the company refrigerator | [00:46] |
weex | write 1 bitcoin and an address on it | [00:48] |
jcpham | tool ate. half gone. | [00:48] |
weex | ok write it on the fridge instead | [00:50] |
jcpham | i just set the frige on fire! | [00:51] |
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weex | i guess if it's going to be that kind of party... | [00:51] |
jcpham | woohoo. just took my pants off | [00:52] |
os2 | BTC_Bear I have authenticated with gribble. Should I continue this in foyer ? | [00:53] |
BTC_Bear | ;;ident os2 | [00:54] |
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* | smickles|idle is now known as smickles | [00:54] |
BTC_Bear | no, now you can conduct business here. Beware tho... it takes time for people to trust you. | [00:54] |
os2 | understood BTC_Bear. | [00:54] |
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os2 | I have another question. How is my wallet number linked to my gpg identified persona ? | [00:55] |
BTC_Bear | It's not | [00:55] |
os2 | Ok. | [00:56] |
os2 | Thanks. | [00:56] |
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BTC_Bear | However, if you post a Receive address while gpg auth'ed , people can look up to see if you received btc to that address. | [00:57] |
BTC_Bear | So, you couldn't claim, that you didn't receive. | [00:57] |
os2 | 1P7672SCmyQY1CRjTxP1wTtnMuz8g4igsD | [00:57] |
BTC_Bear | i.e blockchain.info 1P7672SCmyQY1CRjTxP1wTtnMuz8g4igsD | [00:58] |
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os2 | Let me wrap my head around that BTC_Bear. GPG by itself is a big step. | [00:58] |
rawrmage | lol | [00:58] |
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rawrmage | er | [00:58] |
rawrmage | wc | [00:58] |
Gubidahubida | im looking to buy 75 dollars worth of btc from using a moneypak. who can help me? | [00:59] |
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BTC_Bear | os2: you authed faster than most ever do, so something tells me you will get it. :) | [00:59] |
vragnaroda | BTC_Bear: Well, that's a bit of evidence but I wouldn't call it conclusive. | [00:59] |
os2 | thanks guys ;) | [00:59] |
xtor_ | are dwolla payments revokable? | [00:59] |
BTC_Bear | vragnaroda: agreed | [00:59] |
jcpham | Gubidahubida said something about going to the 7-11 earlier for MP | [01:00] |
Gubidahubida | ya but they dont let u buy them shits with card | [01:00] |
Gubidahubida | so then i had to go to the bank so it took a while | [01:00] |
jcpham | oic | [01:00] |
jcpham | i do not hae the coin. someone will most likely take your money | [01:00] |
xtor_ | Gubidahubida, you should have bought dwolla instead | [01:00] |
Gubidahubida | r u fucking kidding me. i just asked how i should pay and everyone said moneypak | [01:01] |
Gubidahubida | goddamit this is a nightmare :( | [01:01] |
copumpkin | Gubidahubida: people often accept moneypaks around here | [01:01] |
xtor_ | people in here are fucking retards | [01:01] |
copumpkin | might just have to stick around for a bit | [01:01] |
copumpkin | xtor_ is just trolling | [01:02] |
xtor_ | Gubidahubida, is that moneypak refundable at the place of purchase? | [01:02] |
Gubidahubida | no | [01:02] |
Gubidahubida | is there nobody who will take moneypak for btc on here? | [01:02] |
vragnaroda | Gubidahubida: Dude, relax. Someone will take your MoneyPak if you wait around a bit. | [01:02] |
MORA| | http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php lots of moneypak if nothing else | [01:02] |
Gubidahubida | ok, ok... | [01:02] |
copumpkin | Gubidahubida: people do it all the time :) don't freak out | [01:02] |
copumpkin | Gubidahubida: what kind of price per coin are you looking for? | [01:02] |
xtor_ | Gubidahubida, go to www.mtgox.com and look at their methods of financing. You'll see dwolla(25 cent charge) but not moneypak($5 charge). I am not trolling, you're being trolled by whichever retard here told you to have anything to do with moneypak if you live in the US | [01:03] |
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Gubidahubida | k sorry... i just had a hellish time going back and forth from the 7-eleven to tdbank tryna get that moneypak so im cranky | [01:03] |
Gubidahubida | oh snap. how do i get dwollas then? | [01:04] |
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xtor_ | go to www.dwolla.com and find out but for now you're going to have to deal with moneypak | [01:04] |
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copumpkin | I'd pick moneypak over dwolla in most cases | [01:04] |
smickles | :D | [01:04] |
pirateat40 | I am looking to sell some BTC for MoneyPak, what is a good price? | [01:04] |
xtor_ | and deal with the tards here who for some bizzare reason prefer moneypaks to dwolla | [01:04] |
jcpham | i'd take your moneypak if i had bitcoins | [01:04] |
copumpkin | pirateat40: $1 | [01:05] |
Staatsfeind | BTC_Bear: But, I could say without authenticating that 1357TgnWwrmRTkFYvY14C6sTmFBatt4neG is my address and you can verify that with http://pastebin.com/w1xFY38s | [01:05] |
jcpham | i sold what i had yesterday | [01:05] |
smickles | ;;voiceme | [01:05] |
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copumpkin | xtor_: okay, you're trolling | [01:05] |
Staatsfeind | Although, that's not perfect, either. :/ | [01:05] |
pirateat40 | copumpkin, oh I thought they were like $14 each. | [01:05] |
smickles | sweet, it's always nice for that to work on a new installation :D | [01:05] |
copumpkin | pirateat40: it's $25 or $1, I can't remember which | [01:05] |
jcpham | 7$ was yesterday's rate | [01:05] |
xtor_ | copumpkin, 25 cents versus 5 dollars and *I* an the one trolling? | [01:05] |
Staatsfeind | xtor_: Behave. | [01:05] |
pirateat40 | ok thank you copumpkin | [01:05] |
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copumpkin | xtor_: I'm fooling around. You're calling people retarded around here because you don't understand how it works | [01:06] |
pirateat40 | xtor_, s/an/am | [01:06] |
copumpkin | xtor_: so yeah, you're either an asshole or trolling | [01:06] |
copumpkin | it'd be nice if that stopped | [01:06] |
BTC_Bear | Staatsfeind: Yes that would work, seller could add a nonce to a reply to confirm it wasn't a cut and paste job. | [01:06] |
copumpkin | BTC_Bear: he be gone :( | [01:06] |
xtor_ | I don't understand how what work? The only thing I know is moneypaks eat $5 and dwolla eats 25 cents | [01:06] |
copumpkin | xtor_: why do you think people do it then? obviously the only conclusion is that they're retarded | [01:07] |
vragnaroda | BTC_Bear: Yeah, a signed address by itself doesn't really mean much, either. ;) | [01:07] |
copumpkin | proof by lack of imagination | [01:07] |
pirateat40 | No.... its $4.95 stop trolling | [01:07] |
vragnaroda | copumpkin: lol, yes, that's the only reason ;) | [01:07] |
xtor_ | Are moneypaks revocable? | [01:07] |
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vragnaroda | Not easily. | [01:08] |
copumpkin | xtor_: mostly not, especially if you get the receipt | [01:08] |
xtor_ | I've heard rumors that dwolla is revokable in rare circumstances | [01:08] |
copumpkin | yes, it is | [01:08] |
vragnaroda | Dwolla is revocable because they have to follow the law and the law means ACH can be, in extraordinary circumstances, reversed. | [01:08] |
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copumpkin | xtor_: anyway, to elaborate on my mockery of your mockery, the reason people are willing to pay $5 is that it's effectively instant, and people obviously value speed around here. If I have to wait days for a bank transfer to dwolla, I might miss a deal, so I want to pay a little up front to get the coins now | [01:09] |
copumpkin | xtor_: there is this dwolla credit system that they hyped up | [01:09] |
copumpkin | it's exciting, but is only $500 at a time, and I don't think they've finished rolling it out | [01:09] |
xtor_ | credit? | [01:09] |
vragnaroda | MoneyPak is definitely more liquid. | [01:09] |
copumpkin | xtor_: they realize how much of a pain it is to wait for the transfer, and are willing to give you the cash immediately once you initiate a transfer to them | [01:10] |
copumpkin | assuming you're creditworthy | [01:10] |
smickles | hey, so why do you want the reciept with a moneypak? (i assume via photo) | [01:10] |
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copumpkin | smickles: it gives you more recourse if someone attempts to revoke your moneypak | [01:10] |
jcpham | receipt proves it isn't stolen for one | [01:10] |
MILF | ;;ticker | [01:10] |
jcpham | copumpkin's reason is better | [01:11] |
vragnaroda | Well, that's stupid. Activation proves it isn't stolen. | [01:11] |
smickles | copumpkin: and whatever authority would accepth a photo of the reciept? | [01:11] |
copumpkin | smickles: they talk to you over the phone, and want various numbers on the receipt | [01:11] |
vragnaroda | smickles: MoneyPak. | [01:11] |
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pirateat40 | If you can prove you have a specific number off the receipt you are clear. | [01:11] |
smickles | copumpkin: so, this has be 'tested'? | [01:11] |
pirateat40 | Yes | [01:12] |
smickles | :) | [01:12] |
vragnaroda | It has been tested at least a few times. | [01:12] |
pirateat40 | When in doubt, get the receipt and you are good to go. | [01:13] |
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copumpkin | anyway, nothing is 100% safe | [01:13] |
copumpkin | but moneypak is a good balance of safety and price and is easy to obtain | [01:13] |
copumpkin | it's thus pretty liquid around here | [01:13] |
pirateat40 | except vragnaroda holding your money | [01:13] |
pirateat40 | You can be 100% sure you wont get it back. | [01:14] |
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copumpkin | finding him isn't the hard part | [01:14] |
vragnaroda | :) | [01:14] |
copumpkin | getting past the land mines and barbed wire in his yard also isn't the hard part | [01:14] |
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MBS | pm me if anyone wants to rent http://kimsufi.ie servers for BTC, $25/65/80 USD converted to BTC respectively | [01:15] |
copumpkin | Gubidahubida: anyway, what kind of price are you looking for? | [01:15] |
copumpkin | Gubidahubida: also, you're in boston? so am I! | [01:15] |
vragnaroda | lol, my defenses lie more in not having anything you want than in having things to stop you | [01:15] |
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copumpkin | typical vragnaroda, trying to deny landmines so you'll step on them and lose limbs | [01:16] |
BTC_Bear | vragnaroda: I want your dictionary. :)) | [01:16] |
copumpkin | omg vragnaroda's dictionary | [01:16] |
copumpkin | a thing of legend | [01:16] |
BTC_Bear | If I can carry it. | [01:16] |
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smickles | 2 strands of spring loaded razor wire on a swivel infront of every entrance, anyone who comes in, gets wrapped in it ;l | [01:16] |
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Peeb | Hello. | [01:17] |
copumpkin | yo | [01:17] |
vragnaroda | Peeb: Привет! | [01:17] |
Peeb | I'm trying to get this money off Paypal and turn it into Bitcoins! | [01:17] |
pirateat40 | Hi Peeb, my name is pirateat40. | [01:17] |
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smickles | good luck Peeb | [01:18] |
Peeb | hi pirateat40 | [01:18] |
vragnaroda | Peeb: Transfer it to your bank and use some other method. | [01:18] |
Peeb | whats a good method | [01:18] |
vragnaroda | That depends on where you are. | [01:18] |
UnitClick | ;;getrating peeb | [01:18] |
Peeb | NY, US | [01:19] |
Peeb | I've come to find that paypal is quite useless | [01:19] |
smickles | moneypak :D | [01:19] |
vragnaroda | MoneyPak. | [01:19] |
MBS | anyone that has an iphone/android and a US number, free $5 paypal/amazon gc from www.clover.com/a?inv&t=al79p399six8 | [01:19] |
Peeb | ok I'll give that a look | [01:19] |
pirateat40 | Oh did they say MoneyPak? | [01:19] |
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MBS | anyone ever still want things bought online for them for BTC? | [01:20] |
pirateat40 | http://screenshotuploader.com/i/01/B8uPGuXFr.jpg | [01:20] |
smickles | ;;sell 1 "$5 Amazon GC" @ {mtgoxask} | [01:20] |
smickles | gr | [01:20] |
smickles | what did i do wrong there ? | [01:21] |
MBS | no price | [01:21] |
Gubidahubida | want to buy $75 worth of coins at $6 each using moneypak. Will deal with reputable members only and will send first | [01:21] |
smickles | what is wrong with me? | [01:21] |
MBS | is that your clover gc? | [01:21] |
smickles | ;;sell 1 "$5 Amazon GC" @ {mtgoxask} BTC | [01:22] |
smickles | yes | [01:22] |
MBS | if anyone wants to order stuff from amazon for BTC, hit me up :p | [01:22] |
smickles | MBS: and they gave me a 'clover dollar' | [01:22] |
MBS | you can get a $1 gc with that too if you want | [01:23] |
MBS | or $1 paypal, lol | [01:23] |
MBS | smickles, im surprised you didnt sell that GC to imsaguy a while back though | [01:23] |
smickles | i've been busy MBS | [01:23] |
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splatster | Anyone in here made linkinus plugins before? | [01:25] |
smickles | linkinus? | [01:25] |
splatster | Linkinus is an IRC client for OS X | [01:26] |
copumpkin | some like to call it linkanus | [01:26] |
BTC_Bear | splatster: drudge, offcourse. Go to the linkinus IRC, you know where, and ask... | [01:26] |
copumpkin | drudge got on many people's shitlist a few months ago | [01:27] |
BTC_Bear | copumpkin: you're using textual app correct? | [01:27] |
copumpkin | yeah | [01:27] |
splatster | Ya I asked my question over on the linkinus irc server and they aren't responding | [01:27] |
BTC_Bear | yea, he's been in hiding. | [01:27] |
copumpkin | he sold jailbreakme.com | [01:27] |
splatster | drudge = saurik? | [01:28] |
Gubidahubida | i would like to buy $75 of btc at 6.00 | [01:28] |
splatster | ;;getrating Gubidahubida | [01:28] |
splatster | Gubidahubida: Method of payment? | [01:28] |
splatster | copumpkin: I like the software regardless. | [01:29] |
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angusbates100 | Hi all | [01:34] |
splatster | hi | [01:35] |
BTC_Bear | splatster: do you have the LinkinusPluginSDK ? | [01:35] |
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splatster | No. Where do I get that? | [01:36] |
angusbates100 | splatster hi | [01:36] |
Gubidahubida | oh i want to pay with moneypak | [01:37] |
BTC_Bear | splatster: check the site, if it's not there I have copy. Just PM me an email. It is a .zip file. | [01:37] |
rg | im ognna get wasted tonight | [01:37] |
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splatster | BTC_Bear: I still can't find it. | [01:40] |
BTC_Bear | PM me an email | [01:40] |
smickles | Gubidahubida: did you get any takers yet? | [01:43] |
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Gubidahubida | maybe...talking to splatster | [01:45] |
copumpkin | splatster: no | [01:46] |
copumpkin | splatster: yeah, linkinus is nice. I used it back when it wasn't as cool, and got frustrated enough with it that I stopped using it | [01:47] |
copumpkin | but I hear it's improved a lot | [01:47] |
copumpkin | drudge and I go way back :P | [01:47] |
splatster | Ya I like it | [01:47] |
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rg | its my birthday soon | [01:55] |
rg | are you guys excited | [01:56] |
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steelsolid | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0&ob=av3e i am so excited too | [01:56] |
steelsolid | rg hope that made you feel happy on your bday | [02:00] |
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splatster | ok lets see if my plugin works | [02:05] |
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splatster | Yes! | [02:06] |
splatster | I modified the normal GPG auth plugin so it was a simple one line command | [02:06] |
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brute` | so, is bitscalper a scam? | [02:09] |
brute` | every time i try to withdraw the 40btc i put in, it never comes out, just goes back to account balance | [02:09] |
MBS | pm me if anyone wants to rent http://kimsufi.ie servers for BTC, $25/65/80 USD converted to BTC respectively | [02:10] |
brute` | ;;fraud | [02:11] |
Gubidahubida | ;;getrating smickles | [02:11] |
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os2 | ;;getrating Gubidahubida | [02:14] |
os2 | ;;getrating os2 | [02:14] |
angusbates100 | $20 dollar wallmart email gift card for bitcoins pm me thanks | [02:15] |
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os2 | ;;ident os2 | [02:16] |
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os2 | To procure bitcoins I need to encrypt the moneypak key with gpg and send it to the seller ? | [02:18] |
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angusbates100 | brute get mtqox code # | [02:18] |
brute` | angusbates100, huh? | [02:19] |
angusbates100 | ;;getrating brute | [02:20] |
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MILF | MBS, those regular web servers, i'd presume? | [02:22] |
MBS | yeah | [02:22] |
rg | ;;ticker --last | [02:22] |
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angusbates100 | $20 dollar wallmart email gift card for bitcoins pm me thanks | [02:23] |
vragnaroda | http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-208.pdf <-- Apparently, unwillingness to discuss something with the police is probable cause, now. :-( | [02:23] |
os2 | ;;buy 32 btc at 6 USD ; moneypak sellers with good rating please. | [02:23] |
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MILF | can't wait for raspberrypi devices to start coming around...should be interesting to see what happens with simple, low end web hosting prices | [02:24] |
MILF | when it can be done off a 50 dollar (including SD storage) web server | [02:24] |
MILF | and draw almost no power. | [02:24] |
MILF | heh | [02:24] |
MBS | meh | [02:25] |
MBS | too low end, lol | [02:26] |
MILF | it'd be nice for people to host like their own personal webpages though | [02:26] |
MILF | would be shit for a company though | [02:26] |
MILF | heh | [02:26] |
MBS | SD cards wont last long and would have to use hard drives for decent speeds anyway | [02:26] |
MILF | store it all to ram then? | [02:27] |
MILF | load OS from SD | [02:27] |
MILF | and the couple files you wanna store | [02:27] |
MILF | and run it all in memory | [02:27] |
MBS | with that 256MB ram, lol | [02:27] |
MILF | it's feasable on a stripped down linux build | [02:27] |
MBS | anyway, everything raspberry pi can do can already be done | [02:27] |
MILF | like i said, it'd be shit for buisiness | [02:28] |
MBS | i have a couple of dockstars that can run debian or archlinux | [02:28] |
MILF | yea...just not at that price point/size | [02:28] |
MBS | uhh, got my dockstars cheaper than raspberry pi | [02:28] |
MILF | nice | [02:28] |
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MILF | :) | [02:29] |
MBS | main thing raspberry pi has is HDMI out and that video decoder/gpu | [02:29] |
MILF | that gpu is nothing special even | [02:29] |
brute` | I just bought out a hosting company and I have about 40 servers for sale | [02:29] |
MILF | any relatively recent gpu can do the same | [02:29] |
MILF | what i'm sorta interested to se | [02:29] |
brute` | from dual 8 core opterons all the way down to single dual core xeons | [02:29] |
rg | brute: what type of 1u kit | [02:29] |
rg | do you have | [02:29] |
rg | and where is it | [02:29] |
brute` | i also have a 34TB HP nas for sale | [02:29] |
MBS | MILF, well saying for an plug computer | [02:29] |
MILF | is if they can hack up a gpu based bitcoin client for it | [02:29] |
MBS | not saying for a regular computer | [02:29] |
MILF | because even though it's not very powerful...it eats almost nothing power wise | [02:30] |
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MILF | and could generate at least a little bit of coinage | [02:30] |
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MBS | im saying that its good for video related projects, or with power for it, portable things, but many things it can do can already be done, lol | [02:30] |
MBS | MILF, wouldnt be worth it, lol | [02:30] |
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MILF | i'd run it if they could optimize it enough to push like 50mhash | [02:31] |
MILF | which isn't that far of a stretch | [02:31] |
MBS | lol yeah that is | [02:31] |
pigeons | umm good luck with that, for rasberry pi? it is a stretch | [02:31] |
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MILF | on gpu..i think it may be possible | [02:32] |
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MILF | i'm not expecting a gpu client for a while, but i'm sure that it'll happen | [02:32] |
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pigeons | what gpu do they use? | [02:32] |
MILF | something specific to the device, iirc | [02:32] |
pigeons | i like how they call it "open hardware" but every piece i looked at starting with the arm cpu was patented | [02:32] |
MILF | it's still a cool idea, but yea, they shouldn't have advertised it as being open | [02:33] |
MBS | Broadcom BCM2835 | [02:33] |
angusbates100 | $20 dollar wallmart email gift card for bitcoins pm me thanks | [02:33] |
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MILF | that being said, if they release tools to directly interface with the hardware and make proper use out of it, i'll be happy enough | [02:34] |
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magnetron | damn it... 0.40 BTC short on my order | [02:35] |
splatster | magnetron: Need a loan? | [02:36] |
splatster | ;;getrating magnetron | [02:36] |
magnetron | splatster: yes. i have no rating though | [02:36] |
magnetron | meh. | [02:37] |
os2 | magnetron i will send you .11 btc as good karma. | [02:37] |
magnetron | os2: thanks!!! | [02:37] |
pigeons | i think it's a Mali gpu | [02:37] |
os2 | ;;ident magnetron | [02:37] |
magnetron | ;;gpg help | [02:38] |
pigeons | and the mali gpu (more closed than arm even) was only reversed engineered for opengl a few weeks ago | [02:38] |
pigeons | so probably about as many mhash as your blackberry | [02:39] |
os2 | thanks to those who send me the bitcoins. they are yours magnetron as soon as you auth with the server. | [02:39] |
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BTC_Bear | :) | [02:40] |
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MBS | yeah, i think only way to interface with gpu anyway is with a binary | [02:42] |
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pigeons | even those binaries are framebuffer i think | [02:43] |
MBS | http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/592 | [02:43] |
pigeons | ah thanks | [02:44] |
MBS | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore | [02:44] |
MBS | thats gpu | [02:44] |
MILF | heh | [02:44] |
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MILF | i'd hope in the spirt of things though, that they DO actually open it up some | [02:44] |
MILF | over time | [02:44] |
os2 | broadcom has a habbit of hiding things. | [02:45] |
MILF | yea, i'm well aware of that | [02:45] |
os2 | Their tv chips had to be reversed for linux. | [02:45] |
MILF | doesn't mean they can't change their ways | [02:45] |
Qlopi | ;;buy | [02:46] |
os2 | ;;buy | [02:46] |
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os2 | ;;sell | [02:46] |
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Qlopi | anyone doing moneypak => btc exchanges | [02:47] |
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os2 | ;;ident magnetron | [02:51] |
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smickles | ;;sell 1 ppusd @ 1 mtgoxusd or contact me with a similar offer | [02:52] |
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smickles | ;;getrating [ident Qlopi] | [02:57] |
smickles | Qlopi: did you get any offers on that? | [02:59] |
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Qlopi | nah :( | [02:59] |
os2 | ;;getrating smickles | [03:00] |
smickles | Qlopi: and you were looking to buy btc? | [03:00] |
Qlopi | yeah | [03:00] |
smickles | Qlopi: how many? | [03:00] |
Qlopi | $120 worth | [03:00] |
Qlopi | so | [03:00] |
Qlopi | about | [03:00] |
angusbates100 | $20 dollar wallmart email gift card for bitcoins pm me thanks | [03:00] |
Qlopi | 20btc | [03:01] |
smickles | Qlopi: best i can offer is 15, right now :( | [03:01] |
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[Manic] | ;;sell 1 "$100 Amazon Gift Card" @ "(90 /i" BTC | [03:02] |
smickles | Qlopi: sorry, i only have 15 to spare, i assume you already bought the pak? | [03:03] |
Qlopi | yeah :/ | [03:03] |
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[Manic] | ;;sell 1 "$100 Amazon Gift Card" @ "(90 /ii" BTC | [03:03] |
smickles | lemme see if i can grab a couple more | [03:03] |
Qlopi | big mistake i should have just went to the bank | [03:03] |
[Manic] | there we go | [03:03] |
Qlopi | okay :D | [03:03] |
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angusbates100 | who has bitcoins??? | [03:05] |
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vragnaroda | angusbates100: milktoads have bitcoins | [03:06] |
angusbates100 | vragnaroda i will have to go and see the milktoads | [03:07] |
os2 | ;;getrating splatster | [03:07] |
vragnaroda | That's OK, but don't bring any of them in here. | [03:08] |
angusbates100 | $20 dollar wallmart email gift card for bitcoins any takers | [03:08] |
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btchero2 | Anyone trusted with alertpay? | [03:09] |
Mqrius | ;;remove 6655 | [03:09] |
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angusbates100 | vragnaroda wot the fuck is a milktoad? i want one lol | [03:09] |
vragnaroda | angusbates100: It's the Silk Road or anything bought off the Silk Road. | [03:10] |
angusbates100 | btchero2 alertpay just get vcc to verify | [03:11] |
[Manic] | alertpay can be reversed | [03:11] |
vragnaroda | Holy fuck, copying 108 GB over 802.11b is slow. | [03:11] |
btchero2 | yeah, that is why i need someone i trust | [03:11] |
angusbates100 | virtual credit is cheap | [03:11] |
angusbates100 | to verify | [03:12] |
btchero2 | what are you talking about? | [03:12] |
[Manic] | i sold btc to payb.tc for alertpay on the forum | [03:12] |
btchero2 | name sounds familiar? is it reliable? | [03:12] |
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pirateat40 | vragnaroda, why not just stream the porn? | [03:12] |
angusbates100 | have you goy alertpay for sale? | [03:13] |
angusbates100 | got | [03:13] |
btchero2 | no I need alertpay | [03:13] |
btchero2 | I have mtgoxusd or bitcoins | [03:13] |
vragnaroda | pirateat40: Like I said, it's 802.11b. | [03:13] |
[Manic] | he runs the payb.tc site, didnt have any problems with our deal | [03:13] |
angusbates100 | o | [03:13] |
vragnaroda | I need HD. | [03:13] |
pirateat40 | lol | [03:13] |
pirateat40 | :) | [03:13] |
[Manic] | and he was offering more than the going rate | [03:13] |
angusbates100 | Hi pirateat40 | [03:14] |
btchero2 | thanks for the info | [03:14] |
pirateat40 | Howdy | [03:14] |
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angusbates100 | btchero2 good luck | [03:14] |
[Manic] | he had like 1500 in alertpay at the time, but i see he closed his thread.. still might be worth sending him a pm though | [03:15] |
angusbates100 | $20 dollar wallmart email gift card for bitcoins pm me thanks | [03:16] |
MBS | ahh gotta love louisiana https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427450_10150546722705945_555222345344_9036346132_2114630256_n.jpg | [03:16] |
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[Manic] | ;;seen easyat | [03:18] |
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smickles | MBS: lol | [03:21] |
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angusbates100 | ;;getrating Manic | [03:52] |
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ageis | anyone selling a 5830? | [03:53] |
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BTCHero | MTGOX-USD-L5C6K-77C6X-UWSY2-7C6F0 | [04:02] |
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vragnaroda | this shit again? | [04:03] |
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buttpirate | imsaguy imsaguy2 | [04:04] |
copumpkin | buttpirate: dude | [04:05] |
copumpkin | buttpirate | [04:05] |
copumpkin | hey what's up buttpirate | [04:05] |
angusbates100 | ;;rate Manic 5 | [04:05] |
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copumpkin | buttpirate: why aren't you answering me, buttpirate? | [04:06] |
smickles | wtb mtgoxusd for pp | [04:06] |
copumpkin | buttpirate: do you dislike me? | [04:06] |
ineededausername | hi copumpkin! | [04:06] |
copumpkin | ineededausername: I'm busy heckling buttpirate | [04:06] |
ineededausername | who's buttpirate | [04:06] |
copumpkin | amirite buttpirate? | [04:06] |
copumpkin | I dunno, but he likes annoying imsaguy so I'm doing the same to him | [04:07] |
angusbates100 | Manic is a good trader | [04:07] |
vragnaroda | What's the deal with buttpirate and imsaguy? | [04:07] |
copumpkin | vragnaroda: not a clue | [04:07] |
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vragnaroda | Well, he's joined a few times to say nothing but that. :/ | [04:08] |
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copumpkin | lol | [04:08] |
* | vragnaroda has kicked buttpirate from #bitcoin-otc (You're annoying.) | [04:09] |
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smickles | lolwut? they said only one line, right? | [04:10] |
angusbates100 | buttpirate name is worse then mine | [04:10] |
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danieldaniel_ | lol | [04:10] |
danieldaniel_ | i called xbox support | [04:10] |
danieldaniel_ | and said | [04:10] |
smickles | :o | [04:10] |
danieldaniel_ | "Can you help me with connecting my jtag to xbox live?" | [04:10] |
angusbates100 | danieldaniel hi | [04:10] |
danieldaniel_ | hi | [04:10] |
ineededausername | danieldaniel hi | [04:11] |
danieldaniel_ | lol | [04:11] |
danieldaniel_ | ;;eauth danieldaniel | [04:11] |
vragnaroda | He joined and just said lol so I thought for a minute he might be buttpirate and was just fucking with us. | [04:11] |
ineededausername | heh | [04:11] |
vragnaroda | danieldaniel_: You're not buttpirate, are you? | [04:11] |
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danieldaniel_ | lol | [04:11] |
ineededausername | i think that's why he authed | [04:11] |
ineededausername | xD | [04:11] |
danieldaniel_ | i think you know now | [04:11] |
danieldaniel_ | :P | [04:11] |
vragnaroda | That would be annoying. | [04:11] |
danieldaniel_ | btw | [04:12] |
danieldaniel_ | who is buttpirate? | [04:12] |
danieldaniel_ | XD | [04:12] |
vragnaroda | I'm reasonably certain you're danieldaniel, but you may also be buttpirate. | [04:12] |
ineededausername | i heard he pirates butts | [04:12] |
vragnaroda | buttpirate is the guy that joins and just says "imsaguy imsaguy2" | [04:12] |
danieldaniel_ | ... | [04:12] |
smickles | i'd hate to have my butt stolen | [04:12] |
smickles | on the high seas | [04:12] |
danieldaniel_ | imsaguy imsaguy2 | [04:12] |
danieldaniel_ | trololo | [04:12] |
vragnaroda | lol | [04:12] |
smickles | :D | [04:13] |
ineededausername | no, he just copies it in violation of your copyrighted butt | [04:13] |
vragnaroda | danieldaniel_: Be careful; I just banned him for that. | [04:13] |
danieldaniel_ | banned who? | [04:13] |
danieldaniel_ | im confuzzled | [04:13] |
ineededausername | ? | [04:13] |
vragnaroda | buttpirate | [04:13] |
ineededausername | what did he say | [04:13] |
danieldaniel_ | Who is buttpirate? | [04:13] |
danieldaniel_ | >.> | [04:13] |
smickles | buttpirate buttpirate2 | [04:13] |
ineededausername | wait does he join just to say that | [04:14] |
vragnaroda | /msg -freenode chanserv op #bitcoin-otc | [04:14] |
vragnaroda | /kick danieldaniel_ | [04:14] |
ineededausername | "imsaguy imsaguy2" | [04:14] |
vragnaroda | /kick smickles | [04:14] |
danieldaniel_ | :( | [04:14] |
vragnaroda | /kick ineededausername | [04:14] |
smickles | ack | [04:14] |
ineededausername | :( | [04:14] |
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asspirate | arr | [04:15] |
smickles | lol | [04:15] |
ineededausername | oh hell no | [04:15] |
asspirate | gimme your booty or you'll walk the plank! | [04:15] |
ineededausername | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah a pirate | [04:15] |
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* | asspirate plunders pirateat40's booty | [04:15] |
* | vragnaroda has kicked asspirate from #bitcoin-otc (piracy) | [04:15] |
danieldaniel_ | OH SHIT | [04:15] |
ineededausername | lol | [04:15] |
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smickles | lol | [04:16] |
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angusbates100 | asspirate takes it in the ass | [04:16] |
vragnaroda | There's nothing wrong with that. | [04:17] |
danieldaniel_ | vragnaroda takes it in the ass with smickles | [04:17] |
danieldaniel_ | :O | [04:17] |
angusbates100 | lol | [04:17] |
vragnaroda | No. | [04:17] |
smickles | woa | [04:17] |
danieldaniel_ | D: | [04:17] |
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smickles | i wasn't expecting to be in vragnaroda's ass this soon | [04:18] |
danieldaniel_ | o.0 | [04:18] |
vragnaroda | At the very least, buy me a drink first. | [04:18] |
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MBS | i guess i should come up with some shitty business cards to make for internship thing in march, lol | [04:19] |
vragnaroda | That's a decent quit message. I approve of that one. | [04:19] |
MBS | then make some fancy ones after that for real jobs | [04:19] |
ineededausername | LOL | [04:19] |
MBS | would you rather get a transparent or a metal business card? | [04:20] |
ineededausername | transparent | [04:20] |
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ineededausername | on the other hand, a metal business card could double as a ninja star | [04:20] |
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MBS | metal ones are pretty fucking expensive, but are more noticable | [04:21] |
MBS | i mean for internship the crappy "free" ones should be fine | [04:21] |
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danieldaniel_ | OMGEH GAIS | [04:22] |
MBS | plastic ones are pretty decent too though, and more affordable | [04:22] |
danieldaniel_ | Its someguy123! | [04:22] |
Someguy123 | what? | [04:22] |
MBS | actually maybe i should get plastic for internship fair and metal for real | [04:23] |
ineededausername | haha | [04:24] |
ineededausername | metal business cards for internship fairs | [04:24] |
MBS | nah wouldnt use it for the internship fair, like i said those things are several bucks a piece | [04:25] |
ineededausername | oh lol | [04:25] |
rawrmage | danieldaniel_: omgeh | [04:25] |
danieldaniel_ | OMGEH | [04:25] |
MBS | but for after i get certs/graduate, would be nice to have some good cards to hand out | [04:26] |
rawrmage | let's calculate my ΔFucks that I give! | [04:26] |
MBS | also, how do you guys feel about listing certifications on business cards? | [04:26] |
ineededausername | ΔFucks/Δt = -Fucks | [04:26] |
danieldaniel_ | lolwut | [04:27] |
ineededausername | MBS: that might help, but it wouldn't hurt | [04:28] |
rawrmage | ΔFucks = (Importance - (Importance 1line.txt derp-100x100.png derp-560x207.png derp.png dork-100x100.jpg dork-560x302.jpg dork.jpg logs2.txt logs3.txt logstory.txt logs.txt mysql psychology-and-psychiatry-100x100.jpg psychology-and-psychiatry-560x315.jpg psychology-and-psychiatry.jpg tangent-maybe-100x100.jpg tangent-maybe-560x242.jpg tangent-maybe.jpg tara-tara-10-560px.jpg tara-tara-10.jpg tara-tara-11-560px.jpg tara-tara-11.jpg tara-tara-12-560px.jpg tara-tara-12.jpg tara-tara-13-560px.jpg tara-tara-13.jpg tara-tara-14-560px.jpg tara-tara-14.jpg tara-tara-15-560px.jpg tara-tara-1-560px.jpg tara-tara-15.jpg tara-tara-16-560px.jpg tara-tara-16.jpg tara-tara-17-560px.jpg tara-tara-17.jpg tara-tara-18-560px.jpg tara-tara-18.jpg tara-tara-19-560px.jpg tara-tara-19.jpg tara-tara-1.jpg tara-tara-20-560px.jpg tara-tara-20.jpg tara-tara-21-560px.jpg tara-tara-21.jpg tara-tara-22-560px.jpg tara-tara-22.jpg tara-tara-23-560px.jpg tara-tara-23.jpg tara-tara-24-560px.jpg 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danieldaniel_ | LOLWUT | [04:28] |
danieldaniel_ | *googles* | [04:28] |
MBS | well i mean i know some people think you should save stuff like that for resume, but you dont really give your resume to everyone, lol | [04:29] |
joecool | shit's gettin way too complicated in here | [04:29] |
MBS | what is Danieldaniel_ Factor? | [04:29] |
vragnaroda | Goddammit, why do you have to use LaTeX notation? | [04:29] |
rawrmage | it's 0 if it's an issue involving danieldaniel | [04:29] |
ineededausername | rawrmage: Error: mismatched delimiters | [04:29] |
rawrmage | 1 otherwise | [04:29] |
rawrmage | er | [04:29] |
rawrmage | flip that | [04:29] |
rawrmage | 1 if it's an issue involving danieldaniel_ | [04:30] |
rawrmage | 0 otherwise | [04:30] |
ineededausername | lol, if it were latex, he would've done Delta | [04:30] |
MBS | so if it doesnt involve him, its just ΔFucks = (Importance + sqrt{δInternet) | [04:30] |
rawrmage | vragnaroda: because I don't have the square root symbol in my xmodmap | [04:30] |
rawrmage | :( | [04:30] |
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ineededausername | oh not again | [04:30] |
MBS | or wait woops | [04:30] |
rawrmage | MBS: if it involves imp, it's 0/Distance + sqrt(internet) | [04:31] |
MBS | missed first parenthesis | [04:31] |
rawrmage | him* | [04:31] |
rawrmage | hehe | [04:31] |
MBS | would be Importance / Distance + sqrt(Internet) | [04:31] |
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vragnaroda | rawrmage: You mean you don't use a space-cadet keyboard? | [04:32] |
gmaxwell | λλλ detected | [04:32] |
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rawrmage | vragnaroda: lol, do you? | [04:32] |
vragnaroda | Seriously, how fucking awesome is that?! → http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Space-cadet.jpg | [04:32] |
gmaxwell | Here is my xmodmap, based loosely off a lisp machine keyboard layout: http://people.xiph.org/~greg/xmodmap.txt | [04:32] |
vragnaroda | rawrmage: I would kill for one. | [04:32] |
rawrmage | heh | [04:32] |
rawrmage | buy it with bitcoin | [04:33] |
gmaxwell | (ctrl key becomes greek) | [04:33] |
MILF | i want one of those keyboards with LCD backlight | [04:34] |
MILF | not the one that every key is a fucking LCD screen...those are over the top | [04:34] |
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MILF | but there's a couple of nice ones where the backlight on the keys gradually changes color | [04:34] |
MILF | from one end to the other | [04:34] |
vragnaroda | gmaxwell: What? You remap some of your keys? | [04:34] |
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gmaxwell | vragnaroda: see file. | [04:35] |
vragnaroda | Why do people tell me I'm weird for that? | [04:35] |
TheDude_ | !help | [04:35] |
bottompirate | vragnaroda: that keyboard looks awesome | [04:35] |
MILF | http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/e609/?srp=1 | [04:35] |
MILF | that one | [04:35] |
MILF | guess it's LED not LCD | [04:36] |
MBS | hmm | [04:36] |
MILF | though it's not the over the top one where you can change what's displayed on each key | [04:36] |
MBS | wondering if i should hurry and get some certs before internship fair | [04:36] |
MBS | idk if i have enough time though, its sometime in march, lol | [04:36] |
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MILF | MBS...certs for what? | [04:36] |
MBS | right now my list for summer is to get A+, Network +, and CCNA | [04:36] |
MILF | ah | [04:37] |
MILF | don't even have A+ yet? | [04:37] |
MBS | would suck to have to pay now, but could get A+ and CCENT right away | [04:37] |
MBS | nah, esp since it expires every 3 years now | [04:37] |
MILF | that pretty much renders you unhirable if you're not going for a programming job tbh :/ | [04:37] |
MBS | but fuck the price of A+ tests | [04:37] |
MILF | it's why i switched my degree over from a networking focused degree to a programming focused one | [04:38] |
MILF | that and fuck running cable through buildings for a living :/ | [04:38] |
smickles | i'm sure it's an honorable occupation MILF | [04:38] |
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MILF | yea, it's just not what i wanna do...lol | [04:39] |
MBS | though actually not sure about CCENT | [04:39] |
MBS | description for 640-822 ICND1 says it has some stuff about IOS | [04:39] |
MILF | really tbh, if you do jump your way up through the certifications though | [04:39] |
MILF | you can make rediculous amounts of money | [04:39] |
MBS | havent done anything with IOS or any fancy shit yet :( | [04:39] |
MBS | everything else i could probabably read up a bit on and quickly learn, lol | [04:40] |
MBS | actually im not sure what i want to do yet, lol | [04:41] |
vragnaroda | http://i.imgur.com/xLEHE.png trolololol | [04:41] |
MBS | dont really want to do networking, would prefer server administration | [04:41] |
MBS | but a cert is a cert | [04:41] |
MILF | lol @ vragnaroda i'm betting that one got a negitive feedback :D | [04:42] |
MBS | and certainly cant afford MSCE or RHCSA yet | [04:42] |
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ineededausername | vragnaroda: hilarious.. | [04:43] |
ineededausername | 60 bids xD | [04:43] |
MILF | yea, you gotta start with a+ and kinda work your way up from there | [04:43] |
MBS | well actually RHCSA isnt that expensive, $400, but would have to drive a few hours to get it | [04:43] |
MILF | i'll bet one or two were legitimate bids | [04:43] |
MILF | everyone else is a fucking idiot | [04:43] |
MILF | heh | [04:43] |
MILF | well | [04:43] |
MILF | even if one or two were legit | [04:43] |
MILF | they are STILL idiots | [04:43] |
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MILF | heh | [04:43] |
ineededausername | theres no way those were legitimate bids.. | [04:44] |
vragnaroda | eBay will just gox it anyway. | [04:44] |
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MBS | and learning all the SELinux and LDAP stuff will be a PITA | [04:44] |
MILF | LDAP is easy | [04:47] |
MILF | :D | [04:47] |
MBS | red hat really tries to sell their courses for that shit though | [04:47] |
MBS | $4k for boot camp, $2400 for an online 4 day course | [04:47] |
MBS | and there are 2 of online course things | [04:48] |
MILF | oh fuck that | [04:48] |
MILF | lol | [04:48] |
MILF | 4 days? | [04:48] |
MILF | rofl | [04:48] |
MILF | i learned it in like a couple hours XD | [04:49] |
MBS | and then its ~$1000 just for the exams you need for MCITP | [04:49] |
MBS | no MILF, not for ldap, for RHCSA, lol | [04:49] |
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MILF | okay, i was gonna say...rofl | [04:49] |
MILF | that's STILL a lot of time though | [04:50] |
MBS | though besides for A+ and networking certs, not sure what other certs i want, lol | [04:50] |
MILF | well | [04:50] |
MILF | get those | [04:50] |
MILF | get yourself in the door somewhere | [04:50] |
MILF | then decide from there | [04:50] |
MILF | heh | [04:50] |
MBS | basically i want to try and get a decent job after graduation without ever having to do help desk | [04:50] |
* | MILF is working on roughly the same thing right now | [04:51] |
luke-jr | pirateat40: you suck | [04:51] |
MILF | though i think almost no matter what | [04:51] |
MBS | lol want to try and get some internships | [04:51] |
luke-jr | I mean | [04:51] |
luke-jr | pirateat40: ping | [04:51] |
MILF | you're gonna end up doing SOME sort of helpdesk type shit | [04:51] |
MBS | would love to do one in seattle this summer, then do one for university credit in fall or spring | [04:51] |
vragnaroda | luke-jr: no u | [04:51] |
luke-jr | vragnaroda: u ain't pirateat40 | [04:51] |
copumpkin | luke-jr: why does he suck? :( | [04:51] |
luke-jr | copumpkin: I said I meant ping | [04:52] |
MILF | unless you REALLY luck out | [04:52] |
MILF | if you're in IT at all | [04:52] |
MBS | i really hate talking to people on phone, lol | [04:52] |
MILF | you're almost guarunteed to be boned into helpdesk type shit | [04:52] |
MILF | to some extent | [04:52] |
copumpkin | oh | [04:52] |
MILF | even if it is "hey, this computer's fucked up, help us out" | [04:52] |
MBS | though yeah, was looking at some seattle internship ones | [04:52] |
MBS | some nice amazon ones | [04:52] |
vragnaroda | copumpkin: because ‹you suck› is a common typo of ‹ping›. | [04:52] |
luke-jr | I'm looking for a Perl programmer | [04:52] |
rawrmage | lol | [04:52] |
MBS | but very few IT ones overall, and doubt i could learn enough java by summer XD | [04:52] |
rawrmage | i'm looking for a tomato | [04:52] |
copumpkin | luke-jr: I'll write it in APL | [04:52] |
copumpkin | it's almost pl | [04:52] |
* | MILF doesn't know perl | [04:53] |
luke-jr | copumpkin: too bad, it's already written | [04:53] |
copumpkin | damn | [04:53] |
copumpkin | I'll rewrite it in APL | [04:53] |
MILF | though i know a bunch of other scripting languages n such | [04:53] |
luke-jr | copumpkin: I need someone to deploy/troubleshoot and maybe develop some | [04:53] |
MILF | as a matter of fact, some time back | [04:53] |
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MILF | i made a little c# trinket | [04:53] |
MBS | MILF, tbh, id rather work for free doing normal IT stuff for a small business than work help desk | [04:53] |
MILF | to pull data from mtgox, tradehill, and i forgot the other one | [04:54] |
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MILF | kinda gave up on it after a while though | [04:54] |
MILF | when prices crashed after mtgox got hacked into | [04:54] |
luke-jr | copumpkin: you suck | [04:54] |
luke-jr | err ping | [04:54] |
MBS | lol actually these help desk pay estimtes arent half bad | [04:55] |
MBS | http://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/it-help-desk-salary-SRCH_KO0,12.htm | [04:55] |
MBS | and would be enough to pay my student loans at rate i want | [04:55] |
MBS | but fuck it anyway | [04:55] |
copumpkin | luke-jr: damn | [04:55] |
MILF | MBS | [04:57] |
MILF | i didn't look, but around here, helpdesk pays between 12 and 15 an hour | [04:57] |
MILF | generally | [04:57] |
MILF | USD | [04:58] |
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MBS | but yeah, thats why i need to get internships | [04:58] |
MBS | B.S. in Management w/ minor in MIS, A+, Network+, CCNA, with 2 previous internships | [04:59] |
MBS | thats how im hoping to look in just over a year | [04:59] |
MILF | entry level programming job = somewhere between 35 and 45k/year | [05:00] |
MILF | actual networking job should be somewhere within the same ballpark | [05:00] |
MILF | roughly | [05:00] |
MBS | anyone here work in a companies hiring dept. and willing to take bribes? | [05:01] |
MILF | bribes in bitcoin | [05:01] |
MILF | rofl | [05:01] |
MBS | business cards with bitcoin codes on them | [05:02] |
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MBS | oh and MILF, yeah i know that "actual" IT jobs dont pay that much, thats why would have to aim for IT management, lol | [05:03] |
ineededausername | haha, secret bitcoin bribes... | [05:04] |
MBS | after a few years working, will probably eventually go back to get an MBA | [05:04] |
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MILF | btw... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1693843/ | [05:05] |
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pigeons | ineededausername: http://bitcoinmedia.com/founder-of-worlds-largest-ponzi-company-pimps-bitcoin/ | [05:14] |
ineededausername | wow | [05:15] |
ineededausername | i should've kept bitcoinduit up | [05:15] |
pigeons | well, this guy has yet to receive a bitbrew blend in honor of his scheme | [05:15] |
ineededausername | lol | [05:15] |
ineededausername | Russian Scammer blend | [05:16] |
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jamescarr | pigeons, I read that | [05:16] |
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ineededausername | it's a bit surreal | [05:17] |
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ineededausername | how that guy started a tiny honest bitcoin ponzi after stealing billions | [05:17] |
pigeons | i hope we get to see rexcoin | [05:17] |
ineededausername | :( | [05:17] |
ineededausername | yeah.. | [05:17] |
ineededausername | fortunately my loan profits have been looking up, so two defaults don't really bother me too much | [05:18] |
gmaxwell | pigeons: SC is morphing into rexcoin slowly. | [05:18] |
gmaxwell | pigeons: the rexcoin post was really leaked sc plans. | [05:18] |
jamescarr | rexcoin? | [05:19] |
pigeons | yes but i liked his UI design | [05:19] |
ineededausername | lol | [05:19] |
jamescarr | god that site is aweful | [05:19] |
jamescarr | http://www.rexcoin.com/ | [05:19] |
pigeons | IBB actually bought him a domain and hosting but he said "how am i supposed to work on this? i have a gambling problem" | [05:19] |
ineededausername | LOL | [05:19] |
gmaxwell | oh there is a site now? | [05:19] |
ineededausername | that's hilarious | [05:19] |
_99percent_ | ban shocker405 | [05:19] |
_99percent_ | [05:20] | |
_99percent_ | [05:20] | |
_99percent_ | spam bot | [05:20] |
ineededausername | hmmm _99percent_ reminds me... what happened to #bitcoinonepercent | [05:20] |
pigeons | that's not the site, i don't know what domain they bought | [05:20] |
_99percent_ | no clue | [05:20] |
ineededausername | ;;ticker | [05:21] |
ineededausername | oh wow | [05:21] |
ineededausername | we just fell below 5.9 | [05:21] |
ineededausername | SELLL | [05:21] |
pigeons | gmaxwell: do you happen to know the subsidy on a SC block now? Isn't it something south of 1 coin? | [05:21] |
ineededausername | 7 "solid"cents | [05:22] |
ineededausername | :P | [05:22] |
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jamescarr | I'm trying to think of a fun project to code that uses bitcoins | [05:22] |
ineededausername | oh, so Staatsfeind and vragnaroda are not the same person | [05:22] |
jamescarr | maybe a poker site? | [05:22] |
JaNaTiCo187 | i have a question | [05:22] |
_99percent_ | there isn't one | [05:22] |
Staatsfeind | ineededausername: Yes, Staatsfeind and vragnaroda are the same person. | [05:23] |
ineededausername | oh derp | [05:23] |
JaNaTiCo187 | if the value of bitcoins drops then does that mean the difficulty to mine a full block decreases as well? | [05:23] |
_99percent_ | says vrag in his info | [05:23] |
JaNaTiCo187 | or is it vice versa | [05:23] |
Staatsfeind | 22:23 [freenode] -!- Staatsfeind [~markac@unaffiliated/vragnaroda] | [05:23] |
pigeons | JaNaTiCo187: no direct relationship, depends on humans | [05:24] |
Staatsfeind | JaNaTiCo187: They do not shit in tandem. | [05:24] |
Staatsfeind | *shift | [05:24] |
JaNaTiCo187 | lol | [05:24] |
ineededausername | lol | [05:24] |
ineededausername | synchronized shitting | [05:24] |
Staatsfeind | They don't shit in tandem, either, though. | [05:24] |
MILF | ;;ticker | [05:24] |
jamescarr | haha... I now have 0.00501 bitcoins | [05:24] |
jamescarr | I feel so... poor | [05:24] |
jamescarr | :) | [05:24] |
ineededausername | i have 0 in my wallet; i'm poorer | [05:24] |
JaNaTiCo187 | i think im going to build a solar powered mining rig | [05:24] |
MILF | i'm just hoping the price either jumps up | [05:24] |
MILF | or | [05:24] |
MILF | stays stable | [05:24] |
MILF | until i can afford to buy me a 7970 or 7990 (when they come around) video card | [05:25] |
jamescarr | would anyone be willing to buy a box of shitty DVDs for 5 bitcoins? :) | [05:25] |
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pigeons | jamescarr: sales fail | [05:25] |
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jamescarr | pigeons, haha | [05:25] |
JaNaTiCo187 | why buy dvds when you have the piratebay | [05:25] |
MILF | jamescarr...think you MAY wanna make a list of what's there | [05:25] |
MILF | tbh i wouldn't be interested personally | [05:25] |
MILF | but it's better than saying "a box of shitty dvd's | [05:26] |
MILF | pastebin up a list of them or something....then maybe you'll get some offers | [05:26] |
JaNaTiCo187 | anybody know any miners selling their GPUs? | [05:26] |
_99percent_ | sell you a 6950 for $300 | [05:27] |
JaNaTiCo187 | lol | [05:27] |
JaNaTiCo187 | i could get it new for cheaper | [05:27] |
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_99percent_ | do it | [05:28] |
JaNaTiCo187 | i will | [05:28] |
MILF | lol...not much cheaper though | [05:28] |
MILF | especially if it's a 2gb one | [05:28] |
_99percent_ | mine's 2gb | [05:28] |
_99percent_ | twin frozr 2 | [05:28] |
JaNaTiCo187 | yeah but it will also have warranty | [05:28] |
_99percent_ | think msi's warranty is transferrable | [05:28] |
MILF | _99percent_, is it unlockable | [05:28] |
_99percent_ | no | [05:28] |
_99percent_ | twin frozr 3 is | [05:28] |
MILF | mine ain't either...pisses me off something aweful | [05:29] |
MILF | lol | [05:29] |
_99percent_ | meh | [05:29] |
_99percent_ | i don't mine with mine | [05:29] |
_99percent_ | just play minecraft | [05:29] |
MILF | sounds almost as overkill as the web browsing rig i'm gonna be building for my better half | [05:29] |
danieldaniel_ | omgerh gais | [05:30] |
MILF | still haven't decided on cpu yet...but 16gb ddr3, and a 5770 | [05:30] |
MILF | i'm thinking a bulldozer cpu oughtta be sufficient since it's for light use ;) | [05:30] |
JaNaTiCo187 | intel or AMD? | [05:31] |
copumpkin | lol, bitponzi is listed on glbse | [05:31] |
MILF | bulldozer = amd | [05:31] |
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MILF | ...and instead of making up a damned list of movies | [05:32] |
MILF | he quits out? | [05:32] |
MILF | lol | [05:32] |
danieldaniel_ | lol | [05:32] |
MILF | i was trying to give him a legitimate way of (maybe) getting rid of them | [05:32] |
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MILF | granted i wouldn't buy them myself...but maybe someone else would | [05:33] |
MILF | ya know...one man's trash is another's treasure | [05:33] |
danieldaniel_ | its funny because | [05:34] |
MILF | i've got stacks of movies that i own and haven't watched yet though...heh | [05:34] |
danieldaniel_ | you're rambling on | [05:34] |
danieldaniel_ | and nobody else is talking | [05:34] |
danieldaniel_ | :3 | [05:34] |
MILF | ofc, i tend to do that once in a while | [05:34] |
JaNaTiCo187 | anybody know of a program that will continuously notify my of changes in the bitcoin exchange rate? | [05:35] |
MBS | oh sweet | [05:35] |
MBS | free microsoft virtualization exam | [05:36] |
pigeons | copumpkin: yeah cuddlefish started the glbse bitponzi but he has been grounded for several months now | [05:37] |
ineededausername | grounded? | [05:38] |
pigeons | yeah people called his mom asking about their bitcoins | [05:38] |
MBS | http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/virtualization-campaign.aspx#tab3 | [05:38] |
ineededausername | LOL | [05:38] |
ineededausername | so that's the story of that bitponzi... | [05:38] |
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pigeons | http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1899/if-the-economy-was-based-on-bitcoin-how-would-someone-go-about-getting-a-loan | [05:39] |
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smoothie | ineededausername: lol | [05:39] |
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smoothie | not like i heard it | [05:39] |
smoothie | would you like to say it again? | [05:40] |
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ineededausername | ? | [05:40] |
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ineededausername | wow, that's a kickass domain | [05:42] |
ineededausername | Im.The.Best.Dmn.Thing.That.Ur.Eyes.Have.Ever.Seen.0n-irc.ce.ms | [05:43] |
Seventoes | lol | [05:45] |
phraust | is that what happened to cuddlefish? | [05:45] |
pigeons | offical word is "he discovered girls" | [05:45] |
Staatsfeind | lol | [05:45] |
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phraust | hah. | [05:45] |
Staatsfeind | ;;seen cuddlefish | [05:45] |
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Staatsfeind | 22:45 |
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spawn- | ineededausername: thats what im offering ineededausername BNC with amusing kickass domains :) | [05:46] |
phraust | i think he still owes me a couple btc... | [05:46] |
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smickles|m | that smickles|idle it's one sexy guy | [05:48] |
MILF | btw, for anyone that's thinking of looking into the 7xxx ati cards | [05:48] |
MILF | http://www.tomshardware.com/gallery/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Roadmap,0101-324738-0-2-3-1-jpg-.html | [05:48] |
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MILF | 7990 is the only one that doesn't have a release timeline worked out yet | [05:48] |
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MILF | basically, whenever they figure out how to glue two 7970's together :P | [05:49] |
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smickles|m | my guess: with glue | [05:50] |
pigeons | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203711104577200872061278502.html | [05:50] |
pigeons | It appeared from the discussion that the British police didn't take the suspect, who uses the moniker TehWongZ, too seriously, referring to him as a "wannabe" and a "pain in the butt." | [05:50] |
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os2 | need 32 bitcoins for $195. Moneypak anyone selling ? | [05:52] |
_99percent_ | you have receipt? | [05:53] |
_99percent_ | or proof of purchase | [05:53] |
os2 | yes | [05:53] |
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TheDude_ | I'm trying to get myself started in the world of BTC, anyone willing to sell me one and shoot me a rating? USD PP standing at the ready... | [06:01] |
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ageis | buying radeon 5830 | [06:03] |
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deego | hm. I have 3 unused 5850's | [06:04] |
deego | lying around.. actually 4. The 4th is a bit used. | [06:04] |
ageis | I have extremely limited PSU. not sure if it would work | [06:05] |
deego | I never got around to setting up that rig... because that would entail rewiring my house. | [06:05] |
deego | Ah, ok. | [06:05] |
MILF | define extremely limited? | [06:05] |
deego | Anyhow. I'm not too active here. But, if anyone wants to buy them, feel free to msg me. | [06:05] |
ageis | 175W | [06:06] |
ageis | actually, I'm reading that 5850 adn 5830 usage are about the same | [06:06] |
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deego | I also have a monster custom-built rig.. with 3 graphics card slots (of which I broke one.) | [06:06] |
ageis | 5830 being higher in fact | [06:06] |
deego | again, unused | [06:06] |
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MILF | 175w? | [06:07] |
MILF | oh boy. | [06:07] |
MILF | lol | [06:07] |
os2 | how much will a rig cost which mines like 20 coins a month ? | [06:08] |
Greed | More than you have. | [06:08] |
os2 | Greed lol ;) | [06:08] |
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MILF | 20 coins a month.......lets see | [06:08] |
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MILF | a single 6950 gets around 300mhash, give or take | [06:09] |
MILF | and i pull like 0.2 coins per day | [06:09] |
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MILF | so..you'd need at LEAST a 6990 | [06:09] |
MILF | to get close to that | [06:09] |
os2 | how about 5850's in parallel ? | [06:11] |
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MILF | probably 2 or so | [06:15] |
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reeses | os2: you could probably make 1btc/day with a 1ghash box | [06:24] |
reeses | which you could build very cheaply | [06:24] |
os2 | http://maxkeiser.com/2011/06/13/bitcoin-mining-rig-24-machine-setup-48gh/ | [06:25] |
os2 | reeses around 1k ? | [06:26] |
reeses | depending on your resources, easily | [06:26] |
reeses | if you live somewhere with craigslist, you can get mb/cpu/ps/case(if you’re inclined)/ram/etc for very little | [06:27] |
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kekedd | ;;guide | [06:27] |
reeses | then stock the old generation workhorse GPUs | [06:27] |
reeses | 5870s, etc | [06:27] |
kaptah | reeses: more like 0.75 a day | [06:28] |
kaptah | and diff is going up | [06:28] |
rg | big time | [06:28] |
rg | then share reward is halved | [06:28] |
rg | soon | [06:28] |
* | reeses shrugs | [06:28] |
rg | mayube not soon but some time in hte future | [06:28] |
os2 | so bitcoins will jump to $14. | [06:28] |
reeses | sooner than the heat death of the universe | [06:28] |
reeses | kaptah: and that gets him his 20btc/month | [06:29] |
reeses | QED | [06:29] |
rg | ok you need a motherboard that takes 6 pci-e slots | [06:30] |
rg | then buy 6 5770's | [06:30] |
rg | for under $90 | [06:30] |
reeses | hahah | [06:30] |
rg | overclcok them all | [06:30] |
rg | get 1.4GH from them | [06:30] |
reeses | avoid 5770s | [06:30] |
rg | i love my 5770 | [06:30] |
MILF | 5770 ain't bad | [06:30] |
reeses | I only have the mac upgrade one | [06:31] |
rg | i have a nice 5770 | [06:31] |
MILF | oof, i'm sorry | [06:31] |
MILF | :/ | [06:31] |
reeses | yeah | [06:31] |
MILF | owning a mac is bad enough | [06:31] |
rg | Asus 5770 CuCore | [06:31] |
reeses | apple prices don’t come down either | [06:31] |
rg | it plays whatever i need | [06:31] |
MILF | paying out the nose for a 5770 because apple wants to give you a slap in the face too | [06:31] |
MILF | is even worse | [06:31] |
reeses | I retired all 5xxx | [06:31] |
reeses | ;;bc,diffchange | [06:32] |
reeses | so a 5% diff change | [06:33] |
os2 | ;;bc,diffchange | [06:33] |
reeses | that’s not that bad | [06:33] |
kaptah | it's not the last diff since till heat death | [06:33] |
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kekedd | ;;buy 25 btc at 6 USD | [06:42] |
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jamescarr | how many bitcoins would a hacked PSP net? | [06:47] |
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TheDude_ | $200-$250 USD for BTC, msg | [06:48] |
kekedd | ;;gpg eregister kekedd 4F631FD2F1603B0B | [06:48] |
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kekedd | ;;buy 25 btc at 6 USD | [06:49] |
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kekedd | ;;gpg eauth kekedd | [06:49] |
kekedd | ;;gpg eregister | [06:50] |
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jamescarr | ah ha! Screencasts, sold for bitcoins | [06:51] |
kekedd | ;;gpg eauth kekedd | [06:51] |
kekedd | ;;help | [06:51] |
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os2 | need 32 bitcoins for $195. Moneypak. | [06:52] |
kekedd | ;;gpg eregister kekedd F7F80EF9C689D1D4 | [06:52] |
rg | ;;ticker | [06:52] |
kekedd | ;;buy 25 btc at 6 USD | [06:52] |
[Manic] | ;;remove | [06:52] |
BTC_Bear | jamescarr: since, I'm bored. Get me a video of a Pink Bunny Rabbit driving a Yellow Car on the Moon for a 0.5 BTC bounty | [06:52] |
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mircea_popescu | ahh goodmorning bitcoinworld. | [13:44] |
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da2ce7 | goodmorning mircea_popescu | [13:50] |
da2ce7 | :) | [13:50] |
mircea_popescu | hehe | [13:50] |
da2ce7 | I'm about to go to bed :P | [13:50] |
da2ce7 | mircea_popescu: what is you guess for the price in 24h? | [13:50] |
mircea_popescu | i'd say about 6-6.10 | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | course, im in general wrong. | [13:51] |
da2ce7 | pitty the 1line.txt derp-100x100.png derp-560x207.png derp.png dork-100x100.jpg dork-560x302.jpg dork.jpg logs2.txt logs3.txt logstory.txt logs.txt mysql psychology-and-psychiatry-100x100.jpg psychology-and-psychiatry-560x315.jpg psychology-and-psychiatry.jpg tangent-maybe-100x100.jpg tangent-maybe-560x242.jpg tangent-maybe.jpg tara-tara-10-560px.jpg tara-tara-10.jpg tara-tara-11-560px.jpg tara-tara-11.jpg tara-tara-12-560px.jpg tara-tara-12.jpg tara-tara-13-560px.jpg tara-tara-13.jpg tara-tara-14-560px.jpg tara-tara-14.jpg tara-tara-15-560px.jpg tara-tara-1-560px.jpg tara-tara-15.jpg tara-tara-16-560px.jpg tara-tara-16.jpg tara-tara-17-560px.jpg tara-tara-17.jpg tara-tara-18-560px.jpg tara-tara-18.jpg tara-tara-19-560px.jpg tara-tara-19.jpg tara-tara-1.jpg tara-tara-20-560px.jpg tara-tara-20.jpg tara-tara-21-560px.jpg tara-tara-21.jpg tara-tara-22-560px.jpg tara-tara-22.jpg tara-tara-23-560px.jpg tara-tara-23.jpg tara-tara-24-560px.jpg tara-tara-24.jpg tara-tara-25-560px.jpg 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mircea_popescu | eh it wasn't gonna last. | [13:51] |
benjamindees | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r-bYiT0pow | [13:51] |
da2ce7 | bitcoinica is so not-liquid not. | [13:51] |
da2ce7 | *now | [13:51] |
paulzag | what does that star mean - indicative price only but can't complete? | [13:51] |
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da2ce7 | paulzag: it means that you cannot complete your selected order... | [13:52] |
da2ce7 | aka bitcoinica is out of money... | [13:52] |
da2ce7 | so it cannot buy more bitcoins. | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | da2ce7 : you can always buy some options. | [13:53] |
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rg | mircea_popescu: what does buying options entail | [13:53] |
rg | i have 120ish btc invested right now with a trader | [13:53] |
da2ce7 | I just have a whole lot of limt orders setup, to collect from when sombody shorts and force liquidates people. | [13:53] |
rg | and i get 1% a day | [13:53] |
da2ce7 | rg: smart idea :) | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | you go to the options page, select the ones that you want, click on the price, email me, send the coins and thats it | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | you can end up making a loss or a gain depending on how price moves. | [13:54] |
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mircea_popescu | if you figure price goes down, you need puts. if you figure it goes up, you need calls. | [13:55] |
rg | seems like a lot of reading | [13:55] |
da2ce7 | mircea_popescu: where is the option page on bitcoinica? | [13:55] |
da2ce7 | all i see is the instant and advanced. | [13:55] |
mircea_popescu | it's in the chan topic here, | [13:55] |
rg | lol | [13:55] |
rg | dont use bitcoinca | [13:55] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/btc | [13:55] |
rg | http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/options.php | [13:55] |
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da2ce7 | ah | [13:56] |
da2ce7 | coool | [13:56] |
da2ce7 | you really need to be running on https... | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | why ? | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | rg : there's two kinds of financial instruments. the ones where you read and the ones where you're being fleeced. pick one. | [13:57] |
rg | i like the one i use nw | [13:58] |
da2ce7 | hmmm transmiting of bitcoin address can be changed by a malisious proxy. | [13:58] |
rg | where i dont have to do anything | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | a well then that works. | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | da2ce7 : the address is the same and pretty much everyone knows it by now. | [13:58] |
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da2ce7 | so how much will I get if I call a $10 @ 10... how dose that work? | [13:59] |
mircea_popescu | 1% a day would be great, it's just i can't shake the hyip smell off something like that. | [13:59] |
mircea_popescu | da2ce7 : if you buy 10 calls @10 and the price ends up being 11 you make 10$. if the price ends up being 9 you make nothing. | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | you have till the last friday in the month to get out. | [14:00] |
rg | whats hyip? | [14:00] |
benjamindees | ponzi | [14:00] |
da2ce7 | if the price is 15? | [14:00] |
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mircea_popescu | 50$ | [14:00] |
rg | oh | [14:00] |
rg | its trusted traders | [14:00] |
rg | in here | [14:00] |
rg | i wouldnt trust company funds to anyone else | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | rg : i'm not saying it's bad, im just saying, i personally can't go for 1% a day, it's like 1200% a year sorta rates. | [14:01] |
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rg | im trying to get atleast 500 btc there | [14:01] |
rg | that'd be a good profit/day | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | indeed. | [14:01] |
rg | $900/mo | [14:02] |
rg | for doing nthing | [14:02] |
mircea_popescu | 30 bucks a day is practically a wage. yea. | [14:02] |
rg | but that assumes it works out | [14:02] |
da2ce7 | what is the differnce between call ask and call bid? | [14:02] |
mircea_popescu | da2ce7 : call ask is what i sell for. bid is what i buy for. | [14:02] |
rg | theres a big chance for loss | [14:03] |
rg | not huge, but it happens | [14:03] |
mircea_popescu | that's the problem, you can't eval risk. if the thing lives on average 101 days + you make a profit. if not oyu make a loss. impossible to judge. | [14:03] |
rg | ;;later tell [eval] GammaG claims to want to pay you back, s/he is in -otc as 'NamBam' | [14:04] |
rg | ;;later tell BTCHero GammaG claims to want to pay you back, s/he is in -otc as 'NamBam' | [14:04] |
da2ce7 | mircea_popescu: so say I expect the price to be above 10 by the end of Feb.... so I do call ask or call bid? | [14:06] |
Coolty | call ask. | [14:06] |
rg | i think options might be intersting | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | you always do ask when opening positions. you do bid when you close out, say the day it hits 15 you figure that;s as high as it goes | [14:06] |
rg | maybe ill do some | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | and you close out your position, aka sell it. | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | rg : it's a good way to hedge against risk. if your 500 btc making 1% a day are worth 6$ each today | [14:07] |
mircea_popescu | it may be good to ensure against them being worth $3 next month | [14:07] |
rg | indeed | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | but in general options work like this : if price doesn't move you lose money. if price moves the way you say you make money. | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | you can combine calls and puts and do all sorts of strategy, it's a complex field that's a very useful thing to know | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | like driving was in 1900, options are in 2000 i think. | [14:08] |
rg | it seems like gambling | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | it can be. then again, life insurance could be seen as gambling with your own death. | [14:10] |
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mircea_popescu | the line between gambling and responsibility is what the devil walks. | [14:10] |
da2ce7 | mircea_popescu: can you give me a inderpendant bitcoin address in a PM... as I can only send from a shared wallet atm... | [14:16] |
da2ce7 | or in a reply in a email. | [14:16] |
mircea_popescu | um... there's no problem da2ce7, just say what you're gonna buy and where you want the proceeds to go in an email | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | you'll be identified by that. | [14:17] |
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da2ce7 | hmm and the cost is what was quoted to me on the webpage. | [14:18] |
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mircea_popescu | usually pretty close to it, you get the price of when the transaction shows up in the chain | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | there may be some price move but its usually 3rd or 4th decimal point. | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | always make sure the page is fresh tho | [14:19] |
da2ce7 | so how do you make money doing this? you take a loan and purchase the bitcoins now? | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | heh, im fully capitalised, on btc and $. | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | and i make money by the spread (aka ask-bid difference) | [14:20] |
da2ce7 | ok email sent... | [14:22] |
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mircea_popescu | now i'm curious if btc actually goes over 10. | [14:24] |
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awhite | anybody interested in mtgox U$D codes for Euro sepa transfer or Western union | [15:29] |
awhite | ??? | [15:29] |
kakobreklaaa | !getrating awhite | [15:30] |
kakobreklaaa | :( | [15:30] |
vual | anyone ineterested in selling VPS for BTC ? | [15:31] |
MORA| | theres quite a few | [15:31] |
kakobreklaaa | at least 3 | [15:32] |
kakobreklaaa | on irc | [15:32] |
MORA| | Bitcoin VPS: http://www.bitvps.com << from topic | [15:32] |
vual | i dont like that host | [15:32] |
vual | i would rather a mum / pop operation | [15:33] |
vual | thanks for the link though | [15:33] |
MORA| | then find one in the forums, but many of them are lttle more than 1 server and some scripts to hold it together | [15:33] |
Rent0n | alo all, anyone wanna sell me 20 BTC ? | [15:34] |
vual | just looking for someone with a dedicated they wanna give me a vps on , or someone with a spar box in there room.... (assuming there room has a good connection lol) | [15:34] |
vual | ok ty | [15:34] |
MORA| | well, if you dont know the "customers" it gets borring fast, with abuse reports and stuff | [15:35] |
NamBam | .seen btchero | [15:35] |
markac | NamBam: I last saw btchero at 2012-02-04 02:02:41 UTC on #bitcoin-otc | [15:35] |
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mononymous | hi | [15:40] |
mononymous | i want to buy bitcoins via paypal. is that possible? | [15:41] |
MORA| | possible? yes, easy for new users with no rating? no | [15:41] |
mononymous | ok and how can i buy bitcoins then? | [15:42] |
MORA| | whats your location ? | [15:42] |
mononymous | austria | [15:42] |
MORA| | moneypak maybe | [15:43] |
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NamBam | also i think that being able to get a refund on a paypal gift | [15:45] |
mononymous | whats that? | [15:45] |
NamBam | is impossible, i called paypal and they said no, they do not refund if u send as a gift | [15:45] |
MORA| | NamBam if the CC is stolen, they will revert anything | [15:45] |
NamBam | oh | [15:46] |
Rent0n | im also looking to buy some BTC, via paypal - | [15:46] |
NamBam | well if they person has a verified paypal | [15:46] |
MORA| | gifts from verified paypal users seems somewhat safe, as long as paypal does not get a hint about its for btc :) | [15:46] |
NamBam | i wouldnt think they used a stolen cc lol | [15:46] |
MORA| | I could be convinced to sell a few btc to a verified paypal user that is authed with the bot, like 2-5, not 20 :) | [15:48] |
MORA| | bbl | [15:48] |
NamBam | if you gift something, paypal shouldnt be able to say wtf u do with YOUR money | [15:48] |
NamBam | even if u are trading for BTC, its none of their business what you do with your earned money | [15:49] |
mononymous | i am a verified paypal user, i think^^ | [15:49] |
Rent0n | hey i'd do a deal on 5 BTC if you were willing ? I am authd | [15:49] |
NamBam | verified users confirm their main home address via a letter they send u with a code to the address | [15:49] |
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mononymous | on my paypal account is written: status: verified | [15:51] |
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spawn- | VPS/VPN/BNC anyone ? | [15:51] |
NamBam | you wanna buy one? | [15:53] |
mononymous | does anybody want to sell me bitcoins? | [15:53] |
mononymous | ...ok, then could anyone explain me how to buy btc at mt.gox? | [15:55] |
Valalvax | You put money into Mtgox | [15:56] |
Valalvax | Uhh, Dwolla and Paxum are two options | [15:56] |
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Valalvax | Dwolla, Paxum, Liberty Reserve, International Wire, and a Euro Bank Xfer | [15:57] |
Valalvax | Dwolla takes about a week and a couple days for the first time, and 3-4 days after that | [15:57] |
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NamBam | i am selling 1 can of my taco bell fluffs, still warm and just made them this morning. I also have silent but deadly toots | [15:58] |
NamBam | i got some serious gas | [15:58] |
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mononymous | what do you mean by euro bank xfer? normal transfer? | [15:58] |
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mononymous | with my bank account? | [15:59] |
Framedragger | perhaps he simply meant SEPA? | [15:59] |
NamBam | you use your bank account to deposit | [15:59] |
NamBam | they then convert that into btc | [15:59] |
NamBam | you pay them a fee for them todo it | [15:59] |
NamBam | i would assume | [15:59] |
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mononymous | mah, i dont get it | [16:16] |
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kakobreklaaa | sepa is eu only | [16:18] |
kakobreklaaa | and t hey dont convert to btc | [16:18] |
kakobreklaaa | you get euros on your account | [16:18] |
kakobreklaaa | or usd if you deposit usd | [16:18] |
kakobreklaaa | then you do whatever with it | [16:18] |
mononymous | yeah, but how do i get euros on my account? | [16:19] |
kakobreklaaa | EU or US? | [16:19] |
mononymous | EU | [16:20] |
Framedragger | kakobreklaaa: yeah, but wasn't that what was meant by "euro bank xfer"? ah, perhaps not. | [16:20] |
Framedragger | Can't you just open another currency account, e.g. via internet banking? | [16:20] |
kakobreklaaa | you go to your online bank and make a bank tranfser to their account | [16:20] |
kakobreklaaa | hopefuly you are in SEPA zone | [16:20] |
Staatsfeind | SEPA is *not* EU only. It is SEPA-zone—only. | [16:20] |
kakobreklaaa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area | [16:20] |
kakobreklaaa | to make things cheap | [16:20] |
mononymous | yes i am | [16:21] |
kakobreklaaa | well no probs then | [16:21] |
kakobreklaaa | if you dont like using exchange like mtgox to deposit funds there etc | [16:21] |
kakobreklaaa | you can buy btc here on the same way | [16:22] |
kakobreklaaa | or bitmarket.eu for example | [16:22] |
kakobreklaaa | its person to person | [16:22] |
kakobreklaaa | some eur offers: http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?sortby=buysell&sortorder=ASC&type=&nick=&thing=&otherthing=&eitherthing=EUR¬es= | [16:23] |
kakobreklaaa | also check #bitcoin-otc-eu | [16:23] |
kakobreklaaa | nelisky offers BTC via paysafecard | [16:23] |
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Bigpiggy01Mining | *BP01 kicks the tumble weed then kills it with a hammer* | [16:31] |
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MORA| | SELL: 2x2BTC for PPUSD with registered verified users | [16:45] |
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rauskimon | wtb 0.25btc with 1.3eur paypal | [16:49] |
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MORA| | ;;getrating rauskimon | [16:50] |
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chsados | i like money] | [16:56] |
Rent0n | ;;getrating rauskimon | [16:56] |
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Gekz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egcXvqiho4w&ob=av3n | [17:04] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | Hi Gekz you still sellign GoxUSD? | [17:06] |
Gekz | no | [17:06] |
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ineededausername | hi copumpkinc | [17:46] |
ineededausername | wait how did i typo that | [17:46] |
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brute` | if anyone is looking to buy 1u servers, i have an entire rack of supermicro servers for sale. also have a 34TB HP NAS for sale. | [17:52] |
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shdzz | Buying BTC for PPUSD. PM me! | [18:00] |
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mononymous | thank you all, especially kakobreklaaa | [18:05] |
kakobreklaaa | yw | [18:06] |
Staatsfeind | mononymous: I like your nick. ;) | [18:06] |
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mononymous | warum?^^ | [18:15] |
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copumpkin | Rent0n: ratings of 10 look bad, by the way | [18:23] |
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Coolio- | 8http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/9058529/Satellite-phone-encryption-cracked.html | [18:26] |
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mononymous | how can i rate? | [18:29] |
occulta | ;;rate | [18:29] |
mononymous | ;;rate | [18:30] |
mononymous | ? | [18:30] |
mononymous | ah ok, and what is a good/bad rating? | [18:33] |
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kaptah | ;;rate mononymous -1 scammer | [18:35] |
kaptah | that would be bad | [18:35] |
mononymous | so 10 is better than 1 | [18:36] |
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ButtPirate | imsaguy imsaguy2 | [18:43] |
ButtPirate | ismaguy? | [18:44] |
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arduix | ;;guide | [18:56] |
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btcplease | ;;eauth btcplease | [18:59] |
btcplease | hello anyone here | [19:00] |
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btcplease | can someone sell me a few btc | [19:03] |
kakobreklaa | price/paying method? | [19:03] |
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btcplease | 5.90 per... i would like to pay with paypal hopefully.... as i have good feedbackk... | [19:05] |
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btcplease | i need about 200-250 dollars worth | [19:05] |
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btcplease | anyone? | [19:10] |
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copumpkin | so you have almost no reputation, want to pay below spot price, and want to use paypal? :) | [19:12] |
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copumpkin | btcplease: sounds like you'll get people flocking to you! | [19:13] |
btcplease | lol.. | [19:13] |
BTC_Bear | *chirp* | [19:13] |
btcplease | i didnt expect anything | [19:13] |
btcplease | i didnt want to wait for dwolla/mtgox... even though its on its way | [19:13] |
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copumpkin | btcplease: moneypak | [19:14] |
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copumpkin | with a moneypak you'll get pretty close to spot price | [19:14] |
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copumpkin | you're in the US, so it can't be that bad :P | [19:14] |
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btcplease | i dont have a car eiter | [19:16] |
btcplease | i know first world problems | [19:16] |
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copumpkin | there are no convenience stores withing walking distance? | [19:16] |
copumpkin | anyway, giving me (even good) excuses for not getting a moneypak isn't going to get anyone to accept your paypal any sooner :) you might get lucky with a paypal seller but most people think the risk isn't worth it | [19:17] |
btcplease | i get it all the time actually | [19:18] |
copumpkin | then your sellers are either stupid or charge you a big premium :) | [19:18] |
btcplease | nah never a premium | [19:19] |
btcplease | and they arent stupid... considering we both get what we want | [19:20] |
btcplease | he gets usd i get btc. winwin | [19:20] |
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Staatsfeind | trolololol | [19:20] |
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copumpkin | btcplease: the point is that he can't know whether he got what he want for 90/180 days after the transaction | [19:20] |
copumpkin | btcplease: because at any time, you could email paypal and say "zomg I was haxed" and they'd give you your money back, and he'd be screwed | [19:20] |
btcplease | ya he can i can send as a gift and i can note it as a confirmed transaction | [19:21] |
copumpkin | that means nothing | [19:21] |
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copumpkin | the "hacker" could easily do all of that | [19:21] |
btcplease | sure it does | [19:21] |
copumpkin | paypal doesn't give a fuck | [19:21] |
btcplease | i do it all the time and it always works | [19:21] |
btcplease | sure they do | [19:21] |
copumpkin | you do what all the time? | [19:21] |
copumpkin | send as a gift? | [19:21] |
Staatsfeind | ;;ident btcplease | [19:21] |
btcplease | gift | [19:21] |
btcplease | yes | [19:21] |
copumpkin | and you've tried a chargeback and been denied, I assume? | [19:22] |
copumpkin | otherwise you aren't contradicting me | [19:22] |
btcplease | nah never | [19:22] |
copumpkin | well then | [19:22] |
btcplease | i dont chargeback because i dont scam lol... | [19:22] |
copumpkin | that's my whole point | [19:22] |
copumpkin | you _could_ | [19:22] |
copumpkin | and they would side with you | [19:22] |
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Staatsfeind | You haven't been here long enough to have an “all the time” yet | [19:22] |
btcplease | which is another reason i put as a gift, and another reason i note it as a confirmed transaction | [19:22] |
copumpkin | that's why I'm saying your sellers are stupid | [19:22] |
btcplease | sure i have hahaha | [19:22] |
btcplease | dont tell me if ive been here long enough or not | [19:22] |
btcplease | ive been here for about 6 or 7 months | [19:22] |
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copumpkin | btcplease: assuming someone had stolen your password and was using your account (the story you'd give paypal), they could do all of the above, so it means nothing in terms of confirmation | [19:22] |
Staatsfeind | 12:22 |
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btcplease | i just goth this account though cause i forgot my other pas | [19:23] |
znort987 | ;;guide | [19:23] |
btcplease | to my other key shit | [19:23] |
Staatsfeind | ;;rate btcplease -2 liar | [19:23] |
btcplease | really bro | [19:23] |
copumpkin | btcplease: anyway, gift and "confirmation" means nothing, and you shouldn't be pushing that to make your sellers feel better (because it does nothing to protect them) | [19:23] |
btcplease | if you dont remove that i will be doing that to you as well | [19:23] |
ocminer | anyone wants to buy 10 BTC for 55 ppusd ? | [19:23] |
copumpkin | btcplease: ... | [19:23] |
Staatsfeind | zomg | [19:23] |
btcplease | ;;rate Staatsfeind -2 liar | [19:24] |
btcplease | take it off and ill take this off | [19:24] |
copumpkin | btcplease: okay, that's fucked | [19:24] |
btcplease | he did it to me | [19:24] |
copumpkin | no he didn't | [19:24] |
btcplease | why would i not do it to him | [19:24] |
btcplease | yes he did | [19:24] |
copumpkin | no he didn't | [19:24] |
dirkdizzlenutz | hi! | [19:24] |
copumpkin | ;) | [19:24] |
Staatsfeind | lol, the fuck I did but it doesn't really matter | [19:24] |
Staatsfeind | 12:23 |
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copumpkin | anyway, fuck this, I'm out :) | [19:25] |
Staatsfeind | btcplease: Before you claim someone rated you, actually know that they fucking did. | [19:25] |
btcplease | fine ill remove it | [19:26] |
btcplease | ;;unrate Staatsfeind | [19:26] |
btcplease | happy | [19:26] |
btcplease | ;;getrating btcplease | [19:27] |
Mad7Scientist | ;;rate btcplease -1 arguing in chat about negative ratings | [19:27] |
Mad7Scientist | :) | [19:27] |
Mad7Scientist | ;;getrating btcplease | [19:27] |
btcplease | ;;rate Mad7Scientist -2 rating people who he has never dealt with, not honest | [19:27] |
btcplease | there ya go bro | [19:27] |
Mad7Scientist | hey now | [19:28] |
btcplease | ;;getrating btcplease | [19:28] |
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znort987 | ;;gpg eregister znort987 FD5AA2A5E26602B0 | [19:28] |
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btcplease | this is so stupid | [19:28] |
copumpkin | btcplease: you're rating people who haven't rated you, again | [19:28] |
Mad7Scientist | I was joking I didn't really rate you | [19:29] |
btcplease | ;;unrate mad7scientist | [19:29] |
btcplease | thought u did | [19:29] |
Mad7Scientist | There was a space before! | [19:29] |
btcplease | hold on ill delete it | [19:29] |
Mad7Scientist | you just did delete it | [19:29] |
btcplease | ;;eauth btcplease | [19:29] |
kaptah | lol btcplease seems like a honost and stable person, let's do business! :D | [19:29] |
kaptah | honest* | [19:29] |
btcplease | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:61bc306f6bc998a9207400dd31daccc4915924af7bd7ae584c2552d4 | [19:30] |
copumpkin | I can't wait for this market to be more informed | [19:30] |
btcplease | ;;unrate mad7scientist | [19:30] |
Staatsfeind | I don't know why you removed your rating of me. You negatively rated me as a liar and then removed it when you found out I was. | [19:30] |
Mad7Scientist | Staatsfeind, why did you kick him? | [19:30] |
btcplease | i did that because you didnt leave me a rating | [19:30] |
copumpkin | btcplease sounds like bitch please | [19:30] |
btcplease | why would i leave you an unfair rating | [19:30] |
btcplease | there madscientist its gone | [19:30] |
Mad7Scientist | If he doesn't want to rate you then just ;;unrate him | [19:31] |
Mad7Scientist | thanks | [19:31] |
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btcplease | damn and now i understand why more people dont use this | [19:31] |
Staatsfeind | So you just called me a liar without cause? Just because I wasn't seriously rating you, but was lying, I'm no longer a liar? | [19:31] |
btcplease | the type of people that do this are all fucked up | [19:31] |
btcplease | im not trying to start an argument | [19:32] |
btcplease | im trying to buy some btc | [19:32] |
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Mad7Scientist | I've had lots of good trades here | [19:32] |
btcplease | now, if you dont want to help me with that. then dont talk to me | [19:32] |
btcplease | i have nothing to say to you | [19:32] |
btcplease | as have i madscientist | [19:32] |
Staatsfeind | Mad7Scientist: He seems not to know wtf he's doing. After getting so upset at the thought that I was downrating him, he was awfully quick to downrate you, even *after* that demonstration. | [19:32] |
btcplease | but the people here today are all dicks | [19:32] |
Staatsfeind | btcplease: Coming in here and being confrontational isn't helping you any. | [19:33] |
copumpkin | btcplease: all I did was explain to you why people don't like paypal around here. You responded with some typical misconception about how paypal worked, and I explained why your continued use of that approach didn't prove anything. You can go on repeating that you want to use paypal, but people aren't going to like you around here if you insist on misleading your (uninformed) buyers with snake oil that | [19:33] |
copumpkin | makes them feel safe when they aren't | [19:33] |
btcplease | why would i not. it was assumed by me that you downrated me | [19:33] |
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Mad7Scientist | If you weren't robbed of any money or BTC then you should say you have had a good experience | [19:33] |
btcplease | alright i understand where your coming from | [19:33] |
btcplease | so now stop talking to me | [19:33] |
btcplease | because i will find someone | [19:33] |
smickles | hmm, anyone want to buy a 1 btc call option @ 5.96 w/ a 0.04 premium, expiry at 8pm utc ? I think it could be fun :D | [19:33] |
btcplease | as i have almost everyday for the past 4 or 5 month | [19:33] |
znort987 | ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:eed2e0731af0eb4a3107dde16acd0b88a0050d7cc04378cd0c8dec75 | [19:33] |
btcplease | months* | [19:33] |
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copumpkin | btcplease: what was your old identity? | [19:34] |
Staatsfeind | bitch, please; I'm an op and can't ignore anyone in this channel. You're not and can ignore anyone you damn well please. | [19:34] |
btcplease | never had one, always been used as a guest | [19:34] |
Staatsfeind | lol | [19:34] |
copumpkin | btcplease: I thought you said you had an old one | [19:34] |
kaptah | ¬_¬ | [19:34] |
luke-jr | smickles: last time I did something like that, the guy disappeared for a month then refused to follow through | [19:34] |
btcplease | i had an old key | [19:34] |
btcplease | not an old ident | [19:34] |
copumpkin | hmm, okay | [19:34] |
luke-jr | smickles: and then attacked me for not giving him money -.- | [19:35] |
btcplease | the key you would be able to see was being used for at least a year | [19:35] |
smickles | luke-jr: sorry for your bad exp., but i've got a little bit of rep here, i don't intend to lose that | [19:35] |
copumpkin | anyway, carry on. I wanted to point out what 99% of people around here will think, but if you're aiming for the 1%, you'll probably find what you want :) | [19:35] |
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btcplease | thank you | [19:35] |
btcplease | maybe more people can be like you and stop attacking me | [19:35] |
smickles | luke-jr: plus, it's only 1btc for fun | [19:35] |
imsaguy | ;;rate btcplease -1 seems pretty flakey | [19:35] |
btcplease | if you dont want to help me, dont. but dont keep talking to me like your my friend | [19:35] |
btcplease | ;;getrating btcplease | [19:35] |
btcplease | ;;rate imsaguy -1 rated me without ever doing a transaction, bitch move | [19:36] |
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imsaguy | ;;rate btcplease -2 doesn't know the rules and guidelines of -otc | [19:36] |
kaptah | ;;getrating imsaguy | [19:36] |
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imsaguy | btcplease: I dont have to trade with you to rate you, otherwise, you couldn't rate me either :) | [19:36] |
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btcplease | ;;rate imsaguy -2 rated me without transaction first, also is a dick LOL. WHATEVER | [19:37] |
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imsaguy | hey vragnaroda, time for the bannination | [19:37] |
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Staatsfeind | ;;rate btcplease -3 liar, jackass, nuisance | [19:38] |
btcplease | wanna keep going man? cause i see on your feedback youve done thhis to tother people | [19:38] |
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imsaguy | btcplease: more like I don't mind pointing out the asshats | [19:38] |
btcplease | ;;rate btcplease -3 rated me without doing transacstion because he doesnt like my attitude, bullshit move | [19:38] |
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kaptah | lol | [19:38] |
imsaguy | lol | [19:38] |
imsaguy | rating himself | [19:38] |
imsaguy | lol | [19:38] |
imsaguy | lol | [19:38] |
imsaguy | lol | [19:38] |
smickles | :D | [19:38] |
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imsaguy | ;;rate btcplease -5 You should avoid this user. | [19:38] |
smickles | what's going on here? | [19:39] |
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Staatsfeind | dammit | [19:39] |
imsaguy | some dude claiming to be new, but clearly isn't. | [19:39] |
ocminer | anyone wants to buy 10 BTC for 55 ppusd ? | [19:39] |
smickles | ocminer: me! | [19:39] |
ocminer | ok cool :) | [19:39] |
znort987 | ;;help rate | [19:40] |
imsaguy | ;;getrating btcplease | [19:42] |
BTC_Bear | smickles: switch it to a PUT exp: 11:59 tonight. You might get some takers. | [19:42] |
imsaguy | amiller: you need to talk with your friend. he needs to read the -otc wiki | [19:42] |
a5m0 | selling new black or white yubikeys for $20 in btc or dwolla | [19:42] |
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smickles | BTC_Bear: i'll consider it ;) | [19:43] |
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Staatsfeind | lol @ forgot his password but always a guest | [19:45] |
imsaguy | there's certainly more to it | [19:45] |
imsaguy | amiller claims to know him IRL | [19:45] |
Staatsfeind | orly | [19:45] |
imsaguy | yeah | [19:45] |
imsaguy | 8865 amiller btcplease 2012-01-31 17:26:25 3 know him in person, also several transactions | [19:46] |
imsaguy | missed the tabs | [19:46] |
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smickles | ;;rate ocminer 3 several good txns now | [19:46] |
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imsaguy | nice cloak there Dark_Apostrophe | [19:46] |
ocminer | ;;rate smickles 3 nice and easy transactions everytime | [19:46] |
Staatsfeind | huh | [19:46] |
Staatsfeind | Dark_Apostrophe: Your fly's down. | [19:47] |
dirkdizzlenutz | it's an invisibility cloak | [19:47] |
Dark_Apostrophe | k? | [19:47] |
Staatsfeind | It's not so invisible, though, 89.11.140.103 | [19:47] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Yeah, so you can see my IP - your point being? | [19:47] |
Staatsfeind | Dark_Apostrophe: You joined the channel before you're authenticated to freenode. | [19:47] |
Dark_Apostrophe | IRC was never built for privacy | [19:47] |
dirkdizzlenutz | the internet too | [19:48] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Yeah. Still, I don't see what the fuss is about. If I wanted privacy, I'd go through Tor or something. | [19:48] |
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smickles | is there a way to update an order on the book, or do i just remove it and make a new one? | [19:48] |
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Staatsfeind | remove and make a new one | [19:50] |
smickles | thanks Staatsfeind :D | [19:52] |
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smickles | #6666 || smickles || SELL 1.0 ppusd @ 1 mtgoxusd || (or similar offer or btc) up to 19 usd | [19:54] |
smickles | now that's an order number :D | [19:54] |
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Staatsfeind | lol | [19:56] |
Staatsfeind | noice | [19:56] |
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os2 | ;;order | [20:02] |
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os2 | how do you remove an order ? | [20:04] |
Staatsfeind | ;;remove | [20:05] |
os2 | thanks Staatsfeind | [20:05] |
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smickles | ok, what about 1 btc put, strike 5.9, premium 0.06, expiry mtgox last @ 11:59 utc (using bitcoincharts). Any takers? | [20:07] |
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amiller | fuck, more drama, sorry everyone | [20:11] |
smickles | amiller: oh? | [20:11] |
os2 | ;;remove 6657 | [20:11] |
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amiller | i'm just reviewing my log of btcplease now | [20:11] |
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amiller | i don't know why people who are alright in real life have such trouble getting along in irc. | [20:13] |
smickles | ;;seen sturles | [20:13] |
os2 | smickles you are buying a put ? | [20:14] |
smickles | selling | [20:14] |
smickles | i guess i forgot to put that | [20:14] |
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smickles | os2: why? do you want to sell a put? | [20:14] |
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os2 | na I don't sell naked puts. | [20:15] |
Staatsfeind | amiller: Well, I tried to PM him to tell him I'd lift the ban in 24 hours, but he was already off. | [20:15] |
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amiller | i'll let him know, thank you Staatsfeind | [20:15] |
neo_ | llk | [20:15] |
neo_ | k | [20:15] |
smickles | os2: yeah, naked options are spooks sometimes | [20:15] |
smickles | * spooky | [20:16] |
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neo_ | iptrace 649 | [20:17] |
neo_ | 65554 | [20:17] |
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neo_ | kkkkk | [20:18] |
neo_ | 9 | [20:18] |
imsaguy | ;;unrate BTCplease | [20:19] |
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mirrino | need 35 BTC, location netherlands, anyone selling? | [20:21] |
kakobreklaaa | mirrino, #bitcoin-otc-eu , http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?notes=%23eu | [20:22] |
BTC_Bear | mirrino: Mqrius might be able to help ya... | [20:22] |
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mirrino | tx kabo @ btc_bear | [20:23] |
occulta | :P | [20:23] |
occulta | hey | [20:23] |
occulta | hows things everyone | [20:23] |
smickles | howdy occulta | [20:24] |
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occulta | :) | [20:24] |
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smickles | hey occulta, i'm selling a 1 btc put for fun, are you interested? | [20:25] |
occulta | for what payment? | [20:25] |
smickles | wts 1 btc put, strike 5.9, premium 0.06, expiry mtgox last @ 11:59 utc (using bitcoincharts). | [20:26] |
smickles | that's 0.06 usd | [20:26] |
occulta | huh? | [20:27] |
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smickles | did you mean payment method? | [20:27] |
occulta | yes sorry | [20:27] |
smickles | oh, i figure we'd just convert everything to btc, or use mtgox codes or similar | [20:28] |
occulta | think you lost me :) | [20:28] |
smickles | oh, sorry. i though you were asking about the payment method for the premium or the settlement. We could use mtgoxusd for usd. or we could covert any usd to btc to send. | [20:30] |
smickles | so payment method in any case would be either mtgox codes or btc as needed :D | [20:33] |
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smickles | hmm, i guess i could also do ppusd, i jus figured few would be interested in that | [20:36] |
amiller | a put sounds like a lot of effort | [20:37] |
amiller | i'd have to remember to check at midnight | [20:37] |
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pigeons | ;;getrating btcplease | [20:39] |
smickles | amiller: no, we could just do settlement within 24 hrs | [20:39] |
amiller | what would be the official determination for the price | [20:39] |
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smickles | infact, that'd be preferrable | [20:39] |
amiller | is there a deterministic way to query mtgox for that let me see | [20:39] |
amiller | yeah i guess you mentioned btcharts so probably that does work out | [20:40] |
smickles | amiller: you got it | [20:40] |
smickles | i'd specifically be using the bitcoinchart feed viewed in sierrachart | [20:41] |
smickles | that way i could see it down to the satoshi ;) | [20:41] |
amiller | suppose we had done this for last night | [20:41] |
smickles | ok | [20:41] |
amiller | could you give me the link right now that shows the last trade before 11:59:59 i guess | [20:41] |
BTC_Bear | good point, It was an American Option, I assume. So one could exercise at any time. | [20:42] |
smickles | link? i'm not sure, I could post a screen shot. But i could link to the bitcoincharts website, custom chart to yesterday, would that be sufficient? | [20:42] |
smickles | BTC_Bear: i actually didn't consider American Options, actually, but i don't see why not | [20:43] |
amiller | i suppose the custom chart would work, down to the satoshi | [20:44] |
amiller | i'm just curious what you had in mine | [20:44] |
amiller | mind* | [20:44] |
BTC_Bear | oh, so it was an European Option? Wouldn't really matter with today being the Expiration. | [20:45] |
smickles | BTC_Bear: i guess we'd just use a pm to get a time stamp of when you wanted to exercise | [20:45] |
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smickles | BTC_Bear: or i guess it'd be easier to have a preset time for a given exercise | [20:46] |
nville | Hello, I need exactly 1PPUSD (yes, stupid), selling BTC. (new user/acct, registered.) | [20:46] |
nville | Anyone up for this? Note that I need that $1, so you'd have to pay the fee. Therefore I'm okay with paying more than current market value, obviously. | [20:46] |
amiller | there's no fee on paypal if it's a personal tx | [20:46] |
amiller | i'll help you nville | [20:46] |
nville | Not sure of that; I'm from EU. | [20:46] |
amiller | oh | [20:46] |
pigeons | amiller: for some people | [20:46] |
amiller | hm | [20:46] |
pigeons | after an arbitrary number of personal transfers paypal warns you and then starts charging you fees | [20:47] |
amiller | ;;getrating nville | [20:47] |
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nville | Well, you can just prepare to transfer and see the final PP amount before actually doing the TX. I'd send the BTC first, of course :) | [20:47] |
amiller | pigeons, any clue what that arbitrary number turns out to be? | [20:48] |
amiller | i do like 5 paypal tx a month or so | [20:48] |
amiller | i assume i'm well under the radar but who knows | [20:48] |
pigeons | they do it much quicker if jerks send you gifts for buying btc which is why i was upset reading btcplease's ideas from earlier | [20:48] |
smickles | BTC_Bear: do people seems to prefer American Options? | [20:48] |
pigeons | no they have some system that tries to detect using personal transfers for business purposes | [20:48] |
BTC_Bear | Yes, especially with BTC :) | [20:48] |
os2 | interesting | [20:49] |
pigeons | you will get 2 warning emails first, or i did | [20:49] |
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amiller | when you say 'gifts for buying btc' do you mean they mentioned btc in the note to paypal? | [20:49] |
amiller | or is it about gifts vs the other options (payment owed, etc) | [20:49] |
pigeons | no i mean they send transfers as a gift | [20:49] |
pigeons | instead of payment owed | [20:50] |
imsaguy | gift implies you got nothing for it | [20:50] |
pigeons | paypal specifically mentioned that was a problem | [20:50] |
pigeons | even though they have no way of knowing that i sent anything in return | [20:50] |
imsaguy | it probably depends on volume and amount | [20:51] |
pigeons | they just said we noticed you are getting gifts for your business.. | [20:51] |
imsaguy | wow | [20:51] |
amiller | that's ridiculous | [20:52] |
amiller | gifts are magical, man | [20:52] |
pigeons | they didn't reference which transactions or anything either | [20:52] |
amiller | they're tax free up to a large amount | [20:52] |
smickles | ok, so after some consideration. my put will be an American style option, if you want to exercise it before the expiry, a pm with a clear instruction to exercise will suffice. if, for whatever reason, i'm not online at the time you want to exercise, a ;;later tell with the clear instruction and the current time will work | [20:52] |
BTC_Bear | smickles: btw, your PUT is already in the money for any takers. | [20:52] |
amiller | if people just gave each other gifts constantly, you'd have an entire tax free economy | [20:53] |
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pigeons | this was before i joined -otc, before i had been too lazy ;) | [20:53] |
smickles | BTC_Bear: ooh, just bearly | [20:53] |
BTC_Bear | :) | [20:53] |
smickles | *final details to be determined at strike ;) | [20:53] |
smickles | (strike/writing) | [20:54] |
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os2 | lol | [20:55] |
os2 | So the put premium has already changed ;) | [20:55] |
smickles | os2: such is bitcoin :D | [20:55] |
os2 | Puts are fun to buy when there is liquidity. | [20:56] |
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BTC_Bear | os2: and a good way to sell, also | [20:56] |
smickles | i'm so shocked no one jumped on that chance to make a quick penny | [20:56] |
BTC_Bear | lol | [20:56] |
amiller | ;;rate nville 1 i sent paypal, he sent btc. good deal | [20:57] |
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os2 | smickles would have to check the ccharts and stuff. | [20:57] |
nville | ;;rate amiller 1 bought a bit of PPUSD, very smooth! | [20:57] |
nville | ;;rate amiller 1 bought a bit of PPUSD, very smooth! | [20:58] |
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smickles | ;;ident nville | [20:58] |
smickles | oh, nvm | [20:58] |
nville | (ah, it seems I have to have some ratings received before rating. makes sense. now it's recorded) | [20:58] |
amiller | hm, i didn't know you needed to get a rating before rating | [20:59] |
amiller | i suppose that's sensible | [20:59] |
nville | yeah, otherwise someone could create a bunch of bogus accounts and nuke a user :P | [20:59] |
nville | though it is still possible, i.e. doing e.g. very small TXs, geting ratings and then scamming/doing bad stuff | [20:59] |
nville | (wasntme) | [21:00] |
nville | *e.g. | [21:00] |
os2 | nville hmmz ... what did you do ? | [21:00] |
os2 | Let's pin all the past scams on nville | [21:00] |
os2 | ;) | [21:00] |
nville | :O | [21:00] |
amiller | i'll just announce that i know him in person, that should be enough negative karma by now to nuke anyone | [21:01] |
pigeons | yeah just kick nville now, he's obviously friendly with amiller | [21:01] |
nville | lol, I saw something about you knowing someone who got his ass handled here? | [21:01] |
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znort987 | ;;gpg info | [21:02] |
amiller | i met a kid in person at my university and traded cash | [21:02] |
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amiller | he's alright, but a little bit impatient | [21:02] |
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imsaguy | immature* | [21:03] |
amiller | yeah. | [21:03] |
amiller | i helped him debug his gpg, so that's consistent with what he was spouting off about losing his private key from months ago | [21:04] |
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amiller | i'm starting a campaign to teach gpg to everyone i know. | [21:06] |
pigeons | i would get, "cool, what's gpg's facebook page?" | [21:07] |
amiller | Why Johnny Can't Encrypt - A usability evaluation of PGP 5.0 http://www.cs.duke.edu/courses/cps182s/spring06/papers/johnny.pdf | [21:07] |
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amiller | fair enough, i SHOULD make gpg a facebook page | [21:08] |
Staatsfeind | lol, awesome title | [21:08] |
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amiller | that's from 1999, things are much better now | [21:09] |
amiller | enigmail/thunderbird for exampe | [21:09] |
pigeons | actually i would hear, "I don't need to encrypt, i don't friend people i don't know that well" | [21:09] |
gmaxwell | amiller: no graphs, no measurements. |
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amiller | lol | [21:10] |
amiller | so bitcoin is the only plausible reason to practice using gpg | [21:10] |
amiller | it's by far only fun hands/on way. | [21:10] |
amiller | encrypting is like the least relevant part, authenticity/signatures/posting stuff in public like keyservers and the blockchain are what kickass | [21:11] |
Staatsfeind | I don't get why people use email so much at all, but OpenPGP has a lot more uses than that. | [21:11] |
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gmaxwell | amiller: I have like... one. person I talk to that reliably uses gpg with me. Yea... people just don't use it, so they don't have the practice, so they don't use it. | [21:11] |
pigeons | yeah see monkeysphere | [21:11] |
amiller | well there's OTR too | [21:11] |
Someguy123 | torchat :) | [21:11] |
amiller | OTR is much closer to something suitable for most people's typical interactions | [21:12] |
pigeons | http://web.monkeysphere.info/ | [21:12] |
amiller | gmaxwell, i've told all my friends that if they install gpg and send me their public key, then i will send them an encrypted bitcoin | [21:13] |
gmaxwell | amiller: yes, 90% of the people I IM with are using OTR. Only two are actually authenticated, but they all get OE. | [21:13] |
Someguy123 | OTR? | [21:13] |
amiller | if that isn't sufficient incentivization then i will have to concede defeat | [21:13] |
gmaxwell | Someguy123: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ | [21:13] |
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gmaxwell | (It's a standard feature in one of the popular mac IM clients, thus the 90% ) | [21:14] |
Someguy123 | gmaxwell why not tor chat :D | [21:14] |
Someguy123 | encrypted aswell | [21:14] |
Someguy123 | and secure | [21:14] |
gmaxwell | Someguy123: ... dear god. Have you ever used it? You're joking right? | [21:14] |
Someguy123 | gmaxwell i'm using it right now | [21:14] |
Someguy123 | it's quite nice | [21:14] |
amiller | i've played with torchat, i like it pretty well, but i am not at all convinced it's secure | [21:14] |
Someguy123 | pretty damn fast for TOR too | [21:14] |
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Someguy123 | amiller it has end-to-end encryption using private/public keys | [21:15] |
Someguy123 | with your public key being your address | [21:15] |
gmaxwell | Someguy123: thats something that I could use to talk to one or two people. I talk to a good hundred people using OTR. | [21:15] |
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amiller | gmaxwell, so a big part of OTR is that it's distributed along with the tools needed to 'forge' a message from someone else | [21:16] |
amiller | that's the source of the 'plausible deniability' feature | [21:16] |
gmaxwell | Someguy123: it's a big pain to use (starting with you have to be running tor), so it's only going to pick up the interest of a few weirdos like me. | [21:16] |
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amiller | do you thik any of your OTR buddies would know how to do that | [21:16] |
diacetyl | WTB Bitcoin via MoneyPak | [21:16] |
amiller | gmaxwell no it has a self contained tor client | [21:16] |
amiller | i think. | [21:16] |
Staatsfeind | amiller: If they have a reason to, yes. | [21:17] |
Someguy123 | gmaxwell what? | [21:17] |
smickles | diacetyl: do you have the reciept? | [21:17] |
Someguy123 | you don't have to run tor by hand now | [21:17] |
Someguy123 | it's bundled | [21:17] |
Someguy123 | torchat handles its own tor node on windows | [21:17] |
gmaxwell | amiller: ah, I used it last right when it was first created (and submitted a bunch of bugs to it) | [21:17] |
diacetyl | Maybe, why smickles? | [21:17] |
amiller | Staatsfeind, it's something you'd have to practice a few times before you'd be confident in it. | [21:17] |
Someguy123 | amiller yeah it does | [21:17] |
Someguy123 | self-contained tor client | [21:17] |
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smickles | diacetyl: security on the side of the seller | [21:17] |
gmaxwell | amiller: the same two who are authenticated would. But I think thats mostly irrelevant. | [21:17] |
Someguy123 | gmaxwell it's updated all the time too | [21:17] |
gmaxwell | amiller: you still ge the non-non-repudiation even if the person you were talking to didn't know how to forge.. | [21:18] |
smickles | diacetyl: anyway, how much usd do you have on that moneypak? | [21:18] |
diacetyl | Its a 250 USD MoneyPak | [21:18] |
gmaxwell | amiller: _anyone_ with access to their system could do so. Even people with only access to the net capture, though they could only blindly flip bits. | [21:18] |
gmaxwell | Someguy123: I'll have to try it out again, but it still doesn't change the fundimental issue— to be secure we need security for people who don't really know they need security. | [21:19] |
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Someguy123 | gmaxwell yeah atleast torchat solves that sort-of | [21:19] |
Someguy123 | it's quite easy to use | [21:19] |
Someguy123 | >open it | [21:19] |
Someguy123 | >right click and add buddy | [21:19] |
Someguy123 | >throw in their ID | [21:19] |
Someguy123 | DONE. | [21:19] |
smickles | sorry diacetyl, i don't have that much to sell :( | [21:19] |
amiller | gmaxwell, well non-non-repudiation i think has to be discussed within some context, for example a court, or even a school discipline tribunal or something. | [21:19] |
diacetyl | Meh. | [21:20] |
diacetyl | WTB Bitcoins via 250USD MoneyPak =] | [21:20] |
gmaxwell | amiller: The same users would also not be sophicated enough to capture the network stream and then claim the authentication signature proves my identity. | [21:20] |
amiller | hm | [21:21] |
smickles | :o | [21:21] |
pigeons | your honor, they ghosted my computer | [21:21] |
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smickles | it workd on tv | [21:21] |
gmaxwell | amiller: and a court/tribunal would likely be too technicaly unsophicated to buy a log manipulation argument— not unless you hire a $10m team of superstar attorneys. :) | [21:21] |
amiller | well i like to think i could rehease a demonstration where i have an OTR conversation and then forge the convo afterwards | [21:21] |
Staatsfeind | gmaxwell: Because everyone that uses bitcoins understands the protocol and can implement an independent verification of it, right? | [21:21] |
Joric | gmaxwell, wrote online spore signature decoder recently check this out http://sporedecoder.appspot.com funny they're using plain xml (press 'go') | [21:21] |
amiller | and i could teach my lawyer how to reproduce that on the spot | [21:21] |
gmaxwell | amiller: Personally I think non-non-repudaition is good to have (otherwise crypto makes you less secure) but not very important. | [21:22] |
Staatsfeind | gmaxwell: Or for that matter, everyone that accepts USD always checks all the seucrity features on them, right? zH | [21:22] |
Staatsfeind | ;D | [21:22] |
gmaxwell | Staatsfeind: I think what I was saying wooshed right over your head. | [21:22] |
pigeons | one dude makes me verify my pgp key out of band each time we talk on otr | [21:22] |
amiller | hahha pigeons | [21:22] |
rauskimon | diacetyl, give the code and I send you the btc | [21:22] |
Staatsfeind | gmaxwell: No, I'm agreeing with you (albeit being a bit sarcastic about it). | [21:23] |
pigeons | you know who amiller? | [21:23] |
amiller | no i don't know who, quite curious though | [21:23] |
gmaxwell | amiller: sure, you could— and you could do that even if the end users weren't sophicated enough to actually perform the attack. .. but courts and such accept non-encrypted streams as authentic all the time. | [21:23] |
pigeons | from another server we've both been at | [21:23] |
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amiller | ah well that narrows it down to a few ppl. | [21:24] |
amiller | gmaxwell, so if somehow 'otr post-facto forgery parties' catch on and go viral and such, you know via the gpg facebook group, then eventually they'll have to take that into consideration | [21:25] |
pigeons | terorism like gpg is against facebook tos | [21:26] |
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gmaxwell | amiller: I don't really think you need them more than you need "pcap modification parties". It's sufficient that it _can_ be done without superhuman effort for OTR to not lower your security vs cleartext communications. | [21:27] |
amiller | vs cleartext, sure | [21:27] |
amiller | i guess that's the point you're making, since that's where the threshold is between 'uses crypto' and 'doesn't bother' | [21:27] |
amiller | hmm | [21:27] |
Someguy123 | gmaxwell | [21:27] |
Someguy123 | The document, part of a program called 'Communities Against Terrorism,' lists the use of 'anonymizers, portals, or other means to shield IP address' as a sign that a person could be engaged in or supporting terrorist activity. The use of encryption is also listed as a suspicious activity along with steganography, the practice of using 'software to hide encrypted data in digital photos' or | [21:27] |
Someguy123 | other media. In fact, the flyer recommends that anyone 'overly concerned about privacy' or attempting to 'shield the screen from view of others' should be considered suspicious and potentially engaged in terrorist activities. ... The use of PGP, VPNs, Tor or any of the many other technologies for anonymity and privacy online are directly targeted by the flyer, which is distributed to | [21:27] |
Someguy123 | businesses in an effort to promote the reporting of these activities." | [21:27] |
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gmaxwell | Thats the purpose of the non-non-repudiation.. so that authentication doesn't create non-repudiation where you weren't expecting it. | [21:27] |
Someguy123 | FBI calls encryption and proxies terrorism now | [21:28] |
Someguy123 | =_= | [21:28] |
amiller | mm enlightening | [21:28] |
gmaxwell | (otherwise we could potentially harm people by encouraging them to use encryption, because it would make their private chatter more like signed & notarized documents :) ) | [21:29] |
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amiller | thanks for the monkey sphere link pigeons, i was wondering if there was a way that i can grant people ssh accounts on my machine just based on their gpg key | [21:33] |
amiller | that hits the spots | [21:33] |
amiller | spot* | [21:33] |
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diacetyl | WTB Bitcoins via 250$USD and 180$USD MoneyPaks | [21:49] |
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BTC_Bear | Clear text can have dual purpose.... A. i.e.-forexample. With a little forthought..there can-be a dual meaning. That many-people would over-look _-_ | [21:57] |
BTC_Bear | 0.5 BTC for the above code deciphered. Easy, err should be easy. :) | [21:58] |
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ineededausername | ;;ident pirateat40 | [22:08] |
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diacetyl | WTB Bitcoins via 250$USD and 180$USD MoneyPaks | [22:14] |
os2 | I am trying to import a public key into gnu privacy assistant key manager. I keep getting "no key found" when I use it on a text file with a public key. Any pointers ? | [22:14] |
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smickles | ;;unmorse ....-..- | [22:16] |
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Mateh | instant bitcoin needed can buy now! anyone selling? | [22:22] |
Cory | How are you buying? | [22:22] |
Mateh | dont mind i normally use intersago in uk | [22:23] |
smickles | i can't believe noone has sold to diacetyl yet | [22:23] |
diacetyl | This. ^^ | [22:23] |
Mateh | Cory: U sell? xD | [22:23] |
Cory | What is diacetyl offering? | [22:24] |
smickles | [15:14] |
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diacetyl | Yup. | [22:24] |
Cory | Mateh: Not right now to unrated users for methods available in the UK, sorry. | [22:25] |
Mateh | What method can i use to buy from you mate? | [22:25] |
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smickles | diacetyl: i may as well mention, i could sell to you. if you want ~9.47 btc for the 180 moneypak ;D | [22:26] |
smickles | er, i mean ~9.47 per btc | [22:26] |
diacetyl | Yeah right. =P | [22:26] |
pigeons | Mateh: do you have liberty reserve usd? | [22:28] |
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diacetyl | WTB Bitcoins via 250$USD and 180$USD MoneyPaks | [22:30] |
Mateh | i have paypal and cc's here... | [22:30] |
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pigeons | ;;gettrust [ident Mateh] | [22:31] |
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pigeons | go ahead and auth Mateh? | [22:32] |
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danieldaniel_ | ;;eauth danieldaniel | [22:34] |
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Mateh | i buy from intersago ! woop | [22:35] |
Mateh | bye | [22:35] |
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smickles | lolwut? | [22:35] |
Someguy123 | https://btc-e.com/exchange/ltc_btc | [22:36] |
Someguy123 | LTC is going back up :D | [22:36] |
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Cory | Anybody use a Walmart Money Card to cash out MoneyPaks? | [22:38] |
pigeons | i have in the past Cory | [22:38] |
Cory | Is there a fee to apply the MoneyPak? | [22:38] |
pigeons | you lose like $5/month so don't let it sit in the walmart card | [22:38] |
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Cory | Yeah, I think it's $3/month unless you credited it with at least $1000 in the previous month. | [22:39] |
pigeons | no i don't think there was a fee to fund via moneypak, but i don't really remember | [22:39] |
ineededausername | wait what is this | [22:39] |
ineededausername | ;;unmorse ....-..- | [22:39] |
ineededausername | haha | [22:40] |
pigeons | get a username already | [22:40] |
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ineededausername | heh | [22:40] |
ineededausername | hmm unmorse doesnt work | [22:40] |
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kaptah | Possible decoding: SEX | [22:41] |
smickles | ineededausername: it works, that's just not morse | [22:41] |
ineededausername | oh | [22:41] |
Staatsfeind | .-.. --- .-.. | [22:41] |
ineededausername | why is this built into gribble? | [22:41] |
smickles | 'cause gribble is awesome | [22:41] |
Staatsfeind | dude, that's nothing | [22:41] |
Staatsfeind | ;;tell ineededausername [azn hello] | [22:41] |
rawrmage | lol | [22:41] |
ineededausername | lol | [22:42] |
ineededausername | wow | [22:42] |
ineededausername | gribble is amazing | [22:42] |
ineededausername | i need to rate him | [22:42] |
Staatsfeind | ;;tell ineededausername [azn lollapalooza] | [22:42] |
ineededausername | ;;rate gribble 9001 | [22:42] |
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BTC_Bear | Can't believe it was that hard to solve. Guess $3 isn't what it used to be. :) | [22:42] |
Staatsfeind | BTC_Bear: What's that? | [22:42] |
BTC_Bear | Not telling you, cause you would get it. | [22:43] |
smickles | BTC_Bear: i'm just stupid i guess | [22:43] |
smickles | wts 1 btc put, strike 5.9, premium 0.06, expiry mtgox last @ 11:59 utc (using bitcoincharts). | [22:43] |
smickles | :D | [22:43] |
Staatsfeind | smickles: That's probably a fair assessment. :þ | [22:43] |
BTC_Bear | smickles: stupid is a matter of perspective that I never apply to anyone. | [22:43] |
ineededausername | hehe, yeah | [22:43] |
Cory | Staatsfeind: LOL! | [22:43] |
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Staatsfeind | BTC_Bear: We have the same assessment of the fairness of the term, but have chosen opposite approaches to its use. :D | [22:44] |
smickles | BTC_Bear: i believe i fully understand stupidity, my statement was more of an expression of frustration ;) | [22:44] |
Staatsfeind | *Everyone* is stupid. ;) | [22:44] |
BTC_Bear | :) | [22:44] |
smickles | Staatsfeind: if that's true, noone is stupid too | [22:44] |
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ineededausername | smickles: where did 0.06 come from | [22:45] |
Staatsfeind | smickles: No, that does not follow. | [22:45] |
Staatsfeind | We can have different threshholds for what stupid is, but someone is, within that threshhold, either stupid or not-stupid. | [22:46] |
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smickles | ineededausername: i came up with it based on my chart voodoo | [22:46] |
smickles | Staatsfeind: i concede | [22:46] |
ineededausername | whoa | [22:46] |
ineededausername | what if one is a superposition of stupid and not stupid | [22:46] |
amiller | i still don't think you've sorted out your edge cases smickles | [22:47] |
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amiller | does ;;tell do a timestamp | [22:47] |
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amiller | ;;tell smickles want to exercise your hypothetical option for yesterday [11:59:59pm feb 3] | [22:47] |
BTC_Bear | OK I will end the challenge. It was: .... . ..-. ..-. --- which would be ;;unmorse .... . ..-. ..-. --- | [22:47] |
smickles | BTC_Bear: i was so close | [22:48] |
smickles | :( | [22:48] |
BTC_Bear | You were on to it | [22:48] |
rawrmage | BTC_Bear: 5ffo | [22:49] |
rawrmage | :( | [22:49] |
smickles | the last character messed me up, apparently | [22:49] |
rawrmage | wasn't scrolled down :( | [22:49] |
smickles | amiller: i suppose i'm banking on the fact that i believe in the WOT and assume that if i were offline for some reason, people would not take 'too much of an advantage' of the situation | [22:50] |
BTC_Bear | I was going to put 4 messages in it, with hex, morse, substitution, and the original. Plausible deniability times 4 | [22:50] |
rawrmage | heh | [22:51] |
smickles | afterall, amiller, this is a 1 btc put, for fun more than profit ;) | [22:51] |
amiller | well yeah, but the fun is in checking the protocol for edge cases :p | [22:51] |
amiller | i dunno what _you_ like to do for fun | [22:52] |
smickles | i guess my fun come more from when 'the dice are in the air' | [22:52] |
amiller | hm | [22:52] |
amiller | suppose we wanted to play a simple coin flip bet right now, how would we do that, i wonder if random.org has some tool | [22:53] |
smickles | ;;coin | [22:53] |
amiller | ;;coin | [22:53] |
rawrmage | lol | [22:53] |
amiller | so gribble is willing to help, but i don't see how we'd be able to synch on him | [22:53] |
smickles | (in #bitcoin, so it would show to both of us) | [22:53] |
MBS | another another debit card came in, now just waiting for pin of first debit card, one more debit card, and 3 credit | [22:53] |
amiller | oh | [22:53] |
ineededausername | if anyone has a good offer for a $7 put on 1000btc, i can consider it | [22:53] |
BTC_Bear | smickles: what that a Black-Scholes or a BOPM price for the 1 btc ? :)) | [22:53] |
Staatsfeind | Don't do that shit in #bitcoin; take that to #bitcoin-games. | [22:54] |
ineededausername | (1 month term) | [22:54] |
smickles | BTC_Bear: oh carp, you've gone beyond me now | [22:54] |
BTC_Bear | just a joke, nvm | [22:54] |
Staatsfeind | Also, I wouldn't put money on the randomness of supybot. | [22:55] |
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amiller | if gribble isn't objectively trusted then we're all in trouble | [22:55] |
BTC_Bear | Yea, just say: "Flip" and I'll tell you whether it was heads or tails. | [22:56] |
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ineededausername | ping pirateat40 | [22:56] |
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pirateat40 | kicks him | [22:57] |
ineededausername | lol | [22:57] |
rawrmage | i got 499ms | [22:57] |
Staatsfeind | amiller: I'm not saying gribble is malicious; I'm saying it's incompetent for that type of task. | [22:58] |
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Staatsfeind | It's not designed for it. | [22:58] |
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Mqrius | Temporary offer: Buying 50 BTC at market price for Euro SEPA. Anyone interested? | [22:58] |
amiller | Staatsfeind, can you think of anything tha twould work better? | [22:59] |
amiller | Staatsfeind, i was thinking random.org would probably have something useful for that | [22:59] |
Staatsfeind | I wouldn't really trust random.org for that either. | [22:59] |
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ineededausername | gasp, gribble incompetent? :P | [23:00] |
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redfoever | anyone here Moneypak for btc? | [23:03] |
Mqrius | ;;buy 100 BTC at "(({mtgoxask} + {mtgoxbid}) / 2) 1line.txt derp-100x100.png derp-560x207.png derp.png dork-100x100.jpg dork-560x302.jpg dork.jpg logs2.txt logs3.txt logstory.txt logs.txt mysql psychology-and-psychiatry-100x100.jpg psychology-and-psychiatry-560x315.jpg psychology-and-psychiatry.jpg tangent-maybe-100x100.jpg tangent-maybe-560x242.jpg tangent-maybe.jpg tara-tara-10-560px.jpg tara-tara-10.jpg tara-tara-11-560px.jpg tara-tara-11.jpg tara-tara-12-560px.jpg tara-tara-12.jpg tara-tara-13-560px.jpg tara-tara-13.jpg tara-tara-14-560px.jpg tara-tara-14.jpg tara-tara-15-560px.jpg tara-tara-1-560px.jpg tara-tara-15.jpg tara-tara-16-560px.jpg tara-tara-16.jpg tara-tara-17-560px.jpg tara-tara-17.jpg tara-tara-18-560px.jpg tara-tara-18.jpg tara-tara-19-560px.jpg tara-tara-19.jpg tara-tara-1.jpg tara-tara-20-560px.jpg tara-tara-20.jpg tara-tara-21-560px.jpg tara-tara-21.jpg tara-tara-22-560px.jpg tara-tara-22.jpg tara-tara-23-560px.jpg tara-tara-23.jpg tara-tara-24-560px.jpg 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SEPA European transfer or local (Dutch) Transfer. Smaller amounts are no problem. Contact me on IRC or at Gmail.com@Nuntius.Marii #eu | [23:04] |
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amiller | Staatsfeind, how about mtgox | [23:04] |
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rauskimon | Mqrius I could buy but dont have any stats here :F | [23:05] |
Staatsfeind | Does mtgox purport to generate random numbers? | [23:05] |
Mqrius | rauskimon: I'm looking to /buy/ bitcoins myself at that price. Do you mean you could sell to me? | [23:05] |
rauskimon | oh.. not | [23:05] |
rauskimon | if you are in hurry bitcoinmarket24.com | [23:06] |
Mqrius | I'm not 10% fee in a hurry :P | [23:06] |
Mqrius | Btw, if you have no stats and the other person does, you could just send first. Doesn't matter if you're buying or selling. | [23:06] |
Mqrius | If neither of you have stats, then use an escrow. | [23:06] |
smickles | #bitcoin-escrow | [23:08] |
rauskimon | mtgox requires some verifications? | [23:08] |
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MBS | pm me if anyone wants to rent http://kimsufi.ie servers for BTC, $25/65/80 USD converted to BTC respectively | [23:11] |
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MBS | anyone want to sell me bitcoins for paypal? | [23:13] |
smickles | ;;rate amiller 1 a good sport | [23:14] |
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funziggy | ;;tilcker | [23:29] |
funziggy | ;;ticker | [23:30] |
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Ricky_Bobby | anyone selling bitcoins for money paks? | [23:31] |
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smickles | how much is on the moneypak? | [23:34] |
smickles | ;;getrating [ident Ricky_Bobby] | [23:35] |
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paulzag | I will mbs but at 6.20USD (they cost me 6.19xxx USD as I bought them inAUD | [23:36] |
Ricky_Bobby | that sounds good paul | [23:36] |
paulzag | long story | [23:36] |
paulzag | that's MBS's special rate | [23:36] |
Ricky_Bobby | i havent bought the money pak yet though | [23:36] |
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paulzag | ;;getrating Ricky_Bobby | [23:37] |
Ricky_Bobby | i have my actual account i can sign in to if youd like but all ive got is another money pak transaction from a month ago | [23:38] |
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paulzag | Okay channel I'll be back in 4 hours or so and will sell my btc then | [23:45] |
smickles | well, 70% is better than 100% | [23:48] |
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rauskimon | Mqrius they dont have 10% fees? =P | [23:51] |
Mqrius | rauskimon: Last I checked, the price they give is 10% above market | [23:52] |
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rauskimon | how to deposit to mtgox with sepa ez? | [23:53] |
Mqrius | No ez. First get verified. | [23:53] |
rauskimon | then it | [23:54] |
rauskimon | s? | [23:54] |
Mqrius | Yeah, then you do a sepa transfer to their bank. | [23:55] |
Mqrius | There are no sell orders in euro on mtgox though | [23:57] |
Mqrius | so you're always at least 4% higher than usd market | [23:57] |
rauskimon | yeah so basically | [23:58] |
rauskimon | bitcoinmarket24 is fastest&most hassle free | [23:58] |
Mqrius | Yes, but expensive | [23:58] |
Mqrius | Although, still cheaper than blizzcoin | [23:58] |
- {mtgoxbid} + {mtgoxask}) / 2)" BTC
[03:01] * DeLorean719 (~DeLorean7@c-71-195-216-104.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc [03:01] [Manic] hmm [03:02] * gribble gives voice to DeLorean719 [03:02] * eldnord (~eldnord@ti0071a380-dhcp4400.bb.online.no) has joined #bitcoin-otc [03:02] Qlopi damn if you could do like 17 id do it [03:02] [Manic] ;;sell 1 "$100 Amazon Gift Card" @ "(90 / (({mtgoxbid} + {mtgoxask}) / 2 [↩] - {mtgoxbid} + {mtgoxask}) / 2 [↩]
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