Forum logs for 03 Aug 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
BingoBoingo: mod6: I am [00:06]
mod6: BingoBoingo: That would be a nice way to go with the DC if they'll accept a payment bigger than the usual. [00:07]
BingoBoingo: mod6: They will take it. [00:07]
mod6: $8200 would cover us for a couple of months + some for sure. [00:08]
BingoBoingo: It would [00:09]
mircea_popescu: so there you go.\ [00:09]
mod6: Ok, I'll put in a bid tomorrow, I gotta buy some ecu with pizarro's funds (im nearly certain I don't have 1bn or even near that in my eulora acct), then put in the bid. [00:10]
mod6: we should have enough time to make the wire before the deadline im pretty sure. [00:11]
mod6: auction ends tomorrow too. [00:12]
mod6: jurov: you still selling ecu for eulora? [00:13]
mod6: Thanks guys, we can pick this back up in the morning. Have a good night. :] [00:18]
danielpbarron: mod6, i'm the Eulora Preferred Trader [02:36]
danielpbarron: lemme know how much coppers you want and i'll invoice ya [02:39]
diana_coman: hanbot, ack, will do [03:55]
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, thanks! [03:55]
mod6: danielpbarron: Ok Sir: I need to purchase 12.00000000 ECU (1.2 billion) [09:46]
mod6: diana_coman: I tried to connect to eulora, but I suspect the problem is that I haven't tried to login since the new server moved to its new home at Pizarro. [09:50]
mod6: Err was "The server isn't available." [09:51]
mod6: Do I just need to point it at a new IP? [09:51]
mod6: ls [09:52]
mod6: ok nevermind, just updated servers.xml and am connected [09:57]
lobbes: mod6 dun forget, auction ends in ~2hrs >> http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-08-03.log.html#t14:15:25 [10:37]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-08-03 14:15:25: <lobbesbot> A#338 O=1bn HB=1bn E=08-03 16:33:06 (2h17) >>> 8.2k wFF q0 [10:37]
mod6: yeah was just looking for your bot help page [10:37]
mod6: can I put in a bid for "1.2bn" or does it need to be "1200mn" ? [10:37]
lobbes: (might be hard to see through the damn fleanode spam, of course :[ ) [10:38]
mod6: np, i found that in the logs. [10:38]
lobbes: Yea, 1.2bn would work [10:38]
lobbes: Also accepts 'mn', 'k' etc. [10:39]
mod6: ok cool. i don't even have the ecu yet, i've only got about 50mn in my account at this very moment, but I trust that someone will sell them to me in time. [10:39]
mod6: !Qcalc 1-(7400/8200) [10:41]
lobbesbot: mod6: 0.0975609756098 [10:41]
mod6: !Q bid 338 1.1bn [10:42]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 338: 8.2k wFF q0 Heard: 1.1bn from mod6 overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2018-08-03 16:33:06 UTC (1 hours 50 mins) [10:42]
mod6: this auction thing is pretty sweet, what can I say. now if everything else falls into place, will be good. [10:44]
diana_coman: mod6, yes, new server is at new ip from pizarro :) [11:19]
mod6: Yup, found it on the eulora wiki. Was easy to find, cheers! [11:20]
danielpbarron: mod6, you around to trade in game? [11:43]
mod6: yup [11:43]
mod6: im in the town area [11:43]
danielpbarron: the old one or the new one? [11:43]
mod6: is there a new town?!?! [11:43]
danielpbarron: yeah it's at -17 0 302 [11:44]
mod6: im standing right next to you [11:44]
mod6: i miss playing eulora [11:44]
mod6: Thanks! [11:45]
danielpbarron: yw [11:45]
mod6: invoice me when ready, Sir. [11:45]
danielpbarron: already did [11:46]
mod6: oh :] [11:46]
mod6: !!received-invoices [11:46]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gwBRI/?raw=true [11:46]
mod6: !!pay-invoice danielpbarron 2 [11:50]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/J2raq/?raw=true [11:50]
mod6: !!v 939A4F0D6C07E8D36F4BA153A7BB88975A2FF114B030BD594977EBAD1B1BAA44 [11:54]
deedbot: mod6 paid danielpbarron invoice 2 [11:54]
mod6: !!ledger [11:56]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tfF6X/?raw=true [11:56]
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKckPDRW-jk << meanwhile, in 'man alone' [12:08]
diana_coman: hanbot, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qsnSR/?raw=true [12:16]
hanbot: diana_coman got it, ty! [13:12]
mod6: brb meat [13:23]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-25-jul-2018#2462394 << i just discovered i never paid this by going through the ledger looking for it and not finding it o.O sorry folks, will fix now. [13:27]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-26 03:58 mod6: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.22505299 S.NSA colocation (dulap) through June 2019 [13:27]
mircea_popescu: !!pay-invoice mod6 2 [13:29]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/14kFD/?raw=true [13:29]
mod6: back [13:51]
mod6: thanks mircea_popescu! [13:51]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know phuctor stats still take forever to load. am i remiss in thinking this was solved ? [13:53]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: noticed this myself , still creaks under load periodically. i've a new ver of frontend with saner caching, in the conveyor. [13:54]
asciilifeform: 'stats' page is main culprit. [13:54]
mircea_popescu: aha. [13:58]
asciilifeform: in new ver , stats are generated by a cron. [13:58]
mircea_popescu: i like the "but do not run it quite yet" byline [13:59]
mod6: !!sent-invoices [13:59]
asciilifeform: lol [13:59]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yjRAy/?raw=true [13:59]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly oughta add the link to the 'little ripple' , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-09#1832885 [14:06]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 01:27 asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/391BBDCC87CBADA0F891176D9D45D80B7D5D076E4551151F42B104B717F5E449 [14:06]
mircea_popescu: well... seeing how it's same day... i mean you literally say, "results later today" [14:07]
asciilifeform: aite [14:07]
mircea_popescu: anyway, more's the point, did we spend anything else ? [14:07]
asciilifeform: alert reader couldn't have missed it , yea [14:07]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope [14:07]
mircea_popescu: cool deal. [14:08]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/no-such-labs-snsa-july-2018-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), July 2018 Statement [14:17]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did http://trilema.com/2018/no-such-labs-snsa-july-2018-statement/#selection-463.0-465.3 actually generate hate mail ? it didn't strike me as controversial at all [14:17]
mircea_popescu: it's complicated. [14:17]
asciilifeform: maybe i'm thick ? how ? [14:18]
mircea_popescu: but if you're bored one day, read ye olde tardstalk "investors" threads from the days of yore, before reddit invaded and everyone makes "new coins". then compare with yours, and figure out how and wherefore teh delta lol [14:18]
* mircea_popescu shall meanwhile go eat with teh girls. [14:18]
asciilifeform: i was thinking, i read enuff of those for 1 lifetime.. [14:19]
asciilifeform: ( at one point went through hanbot's posts and the contexts ) [14:19]
asciilifeform: i suppose from ye olde reddit 'hodl' pov ('why do anyffin with coin but to sit on it!') s.nsa, and likewise s.mg, pizarro, etc would look fundamentally damaged . but these folx, i expect, aren't tuned in to begin with. [14:21]
asciilifeform: they -- are somewhere else, 'sitting'. [14:22]
asciilifeform: how did mircea_popescu put it in that old essay, 'some people think that if they buy a big enuff house, it will never need to be cleaned' [14:22]
asciilifeform: likely, someone, somewhere, still imagines that 'btc will to the moon'(tm) without anybody actually ~doing anything~. but asciilifeform does not read reddit, so cannot say in detail re this pov. [14:25]
mircea_popescu: so because working out, and pressure to get protein, we're now having straight shrimp breakfasts. it's something else. [14:40]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically, the "argument" is there, you know, "10k btc pizza!!1". [14:41]
asciilifeform: right, exactly the 'argument' i was thinking. by same argument 'why die at the front, stay home and wait to drink bavarian beer' [14:58]
asciilifeform: !#s leather seats [14:58]
a111: 8 results for "leather seats", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=leather%20seats [14:58]
asciilifeform: ^ see also. [14:58]
asciilifeform: ( ever notice how nobody seems to notice how EVERY 20 $ pizza in '09 was '10,000 btc pizza' ? ) [15:00]
asciilifeform: yet for some reason only ~that~ one's famous. go figure.. [15:00]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/mikrotic-routers-leveraged-for-brasilero-botnet-mining-recruitment/ << Qntra - Mikrotic Routers Leveraged For Brasilero Botnet Mining Recruitment [16:29]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: s/mikrotic/mikrotik [16:46]
mircea_popescu: nekrotik also [17:45]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform indeed. [17:45]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-05#1578189 << lol aha [17:45]
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 20:28 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-05#1577753 << both of'em, mikrotik 'RouterOS v6.35.2' >> i now say let's pronounce as in 'necrotic'. [17:45]
BingoBoingo: tyvm, fxd [17:46]
mircea_popescu: and not "for some reason" but specifically for the reason "it's not rape unless they specifically agree to it". yes everyone buying anything BUT bitcoin for $20 in 2010 WAS taking it, nice and knotty, up the tailpipe. [17:46]
mircea_popescu: however in the redditard logic, only the one who ~~~specifically agreed~~~ to a bitcoin-for-pizza trade counts. the rest didn't specifically agree and so "it can't be held against them". this is a thing, in the bible, and in inept school systems, and therefore... IT MUST BE HONORED!!! [17:47]
mircea_popescu: or else you're a pedopath whatever. [17:47]
asciilifeform: nutters. [17:50]
mircea_popescu: no but that's the problem with the dreamer : the very dream. [17:51]
mircea_popescu: "you can do anything" ie, in reverse "only what you dream up really exists" [17:51]
asciilifeform: i thought the fixation was opposite, 'can't do anyffing because notenuff privilege!' or the like [17:52]
asciilifeform: possibly i missed a memo [17:52]
asciilifeform: it remains troo, today! just as in 2010, if you buy a bottle of vodka -- that's a 'bitcoin vodka'. [17:55]
asciilifeform: just the same as the pizza was 'bitcoin pizza'. [17:55]
asciilifeform: the 'i didn't opt' button aint connected to anything. just like the traffic light buttons in ameristan. [17:56]
mircea_popescu: of course. and moreover, the girl you don't say hi to, the table you don't pay attention to, and every single last item in http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/ [17:56]
mircea_popescu: which is indeed a lengthy list. [17:56]
asciilifeform: naturally. [17:57]
ben_vulpes: i miscalculated (under) the outgoing fiat total for pizarro last month by 186 USD is the correct way to resolve that in this months statement to add an outgoing "adjustment" charge? [18:07]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: now that you have the buttbox do you plan to rent the cowork desk in perpetuity? [18:11]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought he left the cowork thing ( what's the use of it, if there's an actual flat ) [18:13]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: correct me if i'm wrong [18:13]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'tis why i ask [18:14]
ben_vulpes: ("if so wtf that's a terrible use of money, and only subjects you to more orcery in your face") [18:15]
mircea_popescu: !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/pxFN6/?raw=true [18:51]
mircea_popescu: !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ctOUU/?raw=true [18:52]
deedbot: accepted: 1 [18:52]
mircea_popescu: tsk [18:52]
mircea_popescu: !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/umhyQ/?raw=true [18:52]
deedbot: accepted: 1 [18:52]
mircea_popescu: there we go. [18:53]
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: now that you have the buttbox do you plan to rent the cowork desk in perpetuity? << I plan to knock it down to a part time deal, but it is still the best place we have to recieve packages, and the cabin fever hit pretty hard last month. [19:00]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 500 $ / mo. postbox?! [19:12]
asciilifeform: for srs? [19:12]
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-535076.txt [19:15]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-july-2018-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), July 2018 Statement [19:17]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 311, going part time would take it to around 200 [19:19]
BingoBoingo: And it's still seeing use as a desk. [19:21]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: still no working desk in the flat ?? [20:02]
BingoBoingo: I'm working a lot in the flat, but I've been getting hit with the cabin fever pretty hard since leaving the hostel. I've been using the cowork desk to get my dose of social orcnoise. [20:07]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: consider lappy + cafe ( like, iirc, phf does ) , cheaper... [20:08]
mod6: Attn Pizarro Customers: The auction was settled at $8200.00, and will be used as the price point for August invoices. [20:11]
mod6: !!Qcalc ((0.42967914/12)+0.022) [20:20]
mod6: !+Qcalc ((0.42967914/12)+0.022) [20:20]
mod6: !~Qcalc ((0.42967914/12)+0.022) [20:20]
mod6: !Qcalc ((0.42967914/12)+0.022) [20:20]
lobbesbot: mod6: 0.057806595 [20:20]
mod6: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.057806595 August 2018 invoice for UY3 [20:21]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/n1rJN/?raw=true [20:21]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll give some cafes a try, but a side effect of the Mate crack pipes is that there aren't many cafes, and... Looking for a combination cafe+package reception kinda reinvents the cowork thing again. [20:23]
mod6: !Qcalc (75+75+75)/8200 [20:25]
lobbesbot: mod6: 0.0274390243902 [20:25]
mod6: BingoBoingo: if you want to renew your rockchip for 1 quarter, this will be the price ^ [20:25]
BingoBoingo: ty [20:26]
BingoBoingo: Roughly how far out is a Cuntoo image for Rockchip? [20:27]
mod6: !Qcalc 141.70/8200 [20:27]
lobbesbot: mod6: 0.0172804878049 [20:27]
mod6: !!invoice jurov 0.01728048 August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro [20:28]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GDDF9/?raw=true [20:28]
mod6: !Qcalc (141.70/8200)+0.003 [20:29]
lobbesbot: mod6: 0.0202804878049 [20:29]
mod6: !!invoice trinque 0.02028048 August Invoice for colocation service and shared shell at pizarro [20:30]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/g4DOH/?raw=true [20:30]
trinque: mod6: just to be clear, so far ben_vulpes has billed in arrears. we're moving to billing in advance? [20:33]
trinque: I don't have a problem with that, but like things to be defined [20:33]
trinque: lemme pull a list of invoice dates for ya [20:34]
mod6: ben_vulpes said at the end of last month that I should send the august ones as soon as I have the price point. which is also what I committed to doing when we had this last go-around a week ago. [20:35]
mod6: I'm just trying to stick to what I said I would do so you'd be happy. [20:35]
ben_vulpes: trinque has it, mod6 is billing in advance now. [20:35]
mod6: Ok, that contradicts what you asked me to do, and what we said we'd do. [20:36]
ben_vulpes: mod6: no, what you have just done is bill for august service at the beginning of august. [20:36]
* trinque isn't pissed, just asking the question, as I didn't see an announcement [20:36]
mod6: So should I cancel those invoices or what is the plan here? [20:36]
trinque: mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/I8ETC/?raw=true [20:36]
ben_vulpes: mod6: everything is kosher, trinque wants clarity on arrears vs advance. what you are doing is billing in advance. [20:37]
trinque: I've (more or less!) been paying at the end of the month for the prior month. I'm happy to begin paying for the month ahead, if y'all want that, but we oughta say what the policy is for the logs [20:37]
mod6: i dont' really know what arreass is [20:37]
ben_vulpes: arrears are for services rendered already. [20:37]
mod6: clearly i'm not the man for this, just trying to keep things moving. [20:37]
ben_vulpes: mod6: you're doing a great job, don't hang yourself over a term of art. [20:38]
mod6: and keeping clients happy, which im having a hard time doing. [20:38]
ben_vulpes: mod6: note he did not say that he was pissed, quite the contrary. [20:38]
trinque: I'm just asking educational questions, is all [20:38]
ben_vulpes: billing as soon as the price signal is set avoids further waffling over spread between when price signal is set and when bills go out. necessarily entails a move to billing in advance. [20:39]
mod6: The invoices that I just made cover the service through the month of August. Invoices received need to be paid by the last day of August. [20:39]
trinque: cool deal, that's exactly what I wanted in the logs [20:39]
ben_vulpes: great! [20:39]
mod6: Ok aweome. Thx. [20:39]
trinque: and thank you! [20:40]
mod6: !!v 646B0F8356894CF24B00725362F3F5ECA3FBE279832EDF28A16348E6DBBB9889 [20:47]
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.057806595 << August 2018 invoice for UY3 [20:47]
mod6: !!v 0B55B685916F50B97FEAAE35C8A6A4591CE1B56F1D883225133D8F6C85B8D961 [20:47]
deedbot: Invoiced jurov 0.01728048 << August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro [20:47]
mod6: !!v D45113700F92244BD144669414FC1FD44A7D5819AE34FB08A6B69235A8540DD0 [20:47]
deedbot: Invoiced trinque 0.02028048 << August Invoice for colocation service and shared shell at pizarro [20:47]
mod6: Alright, last one that remains is BingoBoingo's should he decide to renew for a quarter. Of which, there is a price quote above. [20:48]
mod6: !Qcalc 100/8200 [20:48]
lobbesbot: mod6: 0.0121951219512 [20:48]
mod6: ^ price for 1 month too, should BingoBoingo decide on month-to-month. [20:48]
mod6: Let me know what works! [20:48]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-04#1839243 << attempting one as we speak ( if no dice, will reflash the vacant rk with classical img ) [20:51]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 00:27 BingoBoingo: Roughly how far out is a Cuntoo image for Rockchip? [20:51]
trinque: !!v 3E996764340AB3F151BAC8371DD6F8AE123527064DE756DE8FFE0E35CA343B13 [20:51]
deedbot: trinque paid mod6 invoice 3 [20:51]
trinque: cheers folks, back later [20:51]
mod6: thanks trinque! [20:54]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo mod6 asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6dB0R/?raw=true << detailed walkthrough of how i've been generating reports for pizarro, along with trial report for july. will doublecheck numbers tomorrow and finalize. [21:11]
mod6: Hey, nice ben_vulpes! Thanks for putting that together, I'll comb through it tomorrow and check numbers. [21:28]
mircea_popescu: mod6 how did it settle at 8200 if you ended up paying 1.1 for it or w/e [23:48]
mod6: did I do that wrong? [23:55]
mod6: was thinking i had to "buy 8200 fiats" for 1.1, and that was the rate. [23:56]
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