Forum logs for 01 Jul 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[03:05]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard.	[03:05]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013	[03:05]
dub	thestringpuller: I checked base goog, looks stock, what are you seeing?	[03:06]
dub	http://serato.com/latest/blog/15937/martin-from-support-on-the-vestax-vci-380 DO WANT	[03:06]
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ozbot	Martin from Support on the Vestax VCI-380 \| Blog \| Serato.com	[03:07]
dub	spent a lot of time fuckign with the vci-300 and always wanted an MPC style cue pad with it	[03:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042978 BTC [-]	[03:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 50 @ 0.00125 = 0.0625 BTC [-]	[03:19]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.042979 = 0.9885 BTC [+]	[03:19]
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kakobrekla	> Thats not DJing thats PBing, so please stop to call it DJ.	[03:21]
kakobrekla	lol	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	lolwut ?	[03:23]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042979 BTC [+]	[03:32]
dub	yeah commenters on the internet are assholes, who knew?	[03:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.042978 = 0.3438 BTC [-]	[03:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0429999 = 0.86 BTC [+]	[03:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0429999 = 0.129 BTC [+]	[03:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.042979 = 0.1719 BTC [+]	[03:37]
mjrIII	dude, asicminer share price is crazy	[03:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.00465 = 0.0093 BTC [+]	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	why now ?	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	was just as crazy before.	[03:41]
mjrIII	yeah	[03:41]
mjrIII	true	[03:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.042979 = 0.2149 BTC [+]	[03:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0429999 = 0.129 BTC [+]	[03:42]
kakobrekla	good you couldnt short it eh	[03:42]
Namworld	I want my 696 shares back... and sell them now instead	[03:42]
Namworld	eheh	[03:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.250347 BTC [-]	[03:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.250343 BTC [-]	[03:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2503 BTC [-]	[03:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2502 BTC [-]	[03:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042506 BTC [-]	[03:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.042505 = 0.2125 BTC [-]	[03:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.0425 = 2.04 BTC [-]	[03:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0421 = 2.105 BTC [-]	[03:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0421 = 0.1684 BTC [-]	[03:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0421 BTC [-]	[03:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04201 BTC [-]	[03:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.04201 = 0.5041 BTC [-]	[03:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.042 = 0.672 BTC [-]	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yeah. except i still can't short it.	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	for all the talk of these financial cats the market's as frozen as antarctica.	[03:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2 BTC [-]	[03:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042978 BTC [+]	[03:47]
thestringpuller	what's frozen?	[03:48]
thestringpuller	in particular?	[03:48]
Namworld	There's also a flabbergasting lack of any kind of bid support for ASICMINER	[03:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.01848 = 0.037 BTC [+]	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller the market.	[03:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.21 BTC [+]	[03:50]
furuknap	Perhaps there's hope yet... http://nextbigfuture.com/2013/06/technical-hurdles-have-been-overcome.html	[03:50]
Namworld	There's probably like ~1200 total in bids on the way down to 0.01 BTC per ASICMINER	[03:51]
mircea_popescu	who;s gonna donate heads.	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	easier to just recycle the stupid.	[03:52]
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furuknap	I'm nore thinking that people can be useful as replacement bodies after their heads have been confiscated.	[03:52]
kakobrekla	instead of execution, swap heads	[03:53]
kakobrekla	with someone who needs a body	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	ah	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	im not sure i want to grace the body of an idiot	[03:53]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: what market? turnip market? movie market? etc?	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	he probably did stupid things to it.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller we were discussing asicminer you know	[03:54]
thestringpuller	oh	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	specifically shorting it	[03:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.292 BTC [-]	[03:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 7 @ 0.031499 = 0.2205 BTC [-]	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159560.msg2622457#msg2622457	[03:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 8 @ 0.031499 = 0.252 BTC [-]	[03:55]
ozbot	New ASIC Cedartec [Probable SCAM]	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	i guess you all missed out on that hot stuff huh ?	[03:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.1506 BTC [-]	[03:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.1505 = 12.4515 BTC [-]	[03:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.1504 = 8.3008 BTC [-]	[03:55]
dub	might be nice to holiday a while on the body of a hot female	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	you know dub, if you'd like to swallow some manlove you can just say.	[03:55]
dub	stay at home and play with your tits	[03:55]
kakobrekla	yeah, well you like head jars better?	[03:56]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla peach.	[03:56]
kakobrekla	hum?	[03:56]
mircea_popescu	peach jam jar head	[03:56]
kakobrekla	heh	[03:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 324 @ 0.001155 = 0.3742 BTC [-]	[03:56]
dub	kid at school we called jamjar	[03:57]
dub	you can probable extrapolate why	[03:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 200 @ 0.001152 = 0.2304 BTC [-]	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Uy2jpMqNnio/TN7o-WO1y1I/AAAAAAAABZM/M11uF6RsO3M/s1600/muslim-attack-goat.jpg << i googled buttsex with a goat and that's what it gave me	[03:58]
kakobrekla	dubs way	[03:59]
furuknap	I'm more interested in knowing why you googled that...	[03:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001151 BTC [-]	[03:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1385 @ 0.001133 = 1.5692 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001132 = 0.1132 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 35 @ 0.00113 = 0.0396 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 40 @ 0.00113 = 0.0452 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1429 @ 0.00112 = 1.6005 BTC [-]	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	i was thinking about finance and jam jars.	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.0011 = 0.11 BTC [-]	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	somehow this is what came out	[04:00]
furuknap	Yeah, I'll use that the next time my embarrasing fetishes come out too...	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 500 @ 0.00103 = 0.515 BTC [-]	[04:00]
furuknap	:-P	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.001025 = 0.0021 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 54 @ 0.00102 = 0.0551 BTC [-]	[04:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.1505 BTC [+]	[04:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.1504 = 12.4512 BTC [-]	[04:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.1502 BTC [-]	[04:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.15 = 12.45 BTC [-]	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	gotta bear in mind i'm unembarassable, which may be a required feature.	[04:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0428 = 0.856 BTC [-]	[04:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0428 = 0.2996 BTC [-]	[04:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042001 BTC [-]	[04:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.042 = 0.168 BTC [-]	[04:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.041505 = 2.0753 BTC [-]	[04:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042979 BTC [+]	[04:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0429999 = 0.215 BTC [+]	[04:04]
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mircea_popescu	why does seth godin look like a total retard/faggot these days ?	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	nm.	[04:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.288693 = 8.5774 BTC [+]	[04:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.288693 BTC [+]	[04:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.288694 = 8.5774 BTC [+]	[04:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042978 BTC [-]	[04:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.042979 = 0.2149 BTC [+]	[04:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.042979 = 2.2779 BTC [+]	[04:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.01848 = 0.0554 BTC [+]	[04:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042979 BTC [+]	[04:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 500 @ 0.001022 = 0.511 BTC [+]	[04:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001021 = 0.1021 BTC [-]	[04:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 400 @ 0.00102 = 0.408 BTC [-]	[04:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 746 @ 0.00102 = 0.7609 BTC [-]	[04:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 164 @ 0.00102 = 0.1673 BTC [-]	[04:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.017501 = 0.105 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 20 @ 0.017007 = 0.3401 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.01735 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 55 @ 0.017006 = 0.9353 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0162 = 0.0324 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.01604 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 90 @ 0.015 = 1.35 BTC [-]	[04:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.288685 = 21.4434 BTC [-]	[04:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.042979 = 1.2464 BTC [+]	[04:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.042979 = 0.6447 BTC [+]	[04:22]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 81 @ 0.00102 = 0.0826 BTC [-]	[04:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.042979 = 0.1719 BTC [+]	[04:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.043 = 0.215 BTC [+]	[04:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00082683 = 5.1263 BTC [-]	[04:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.279 = 8.558 BTC [-]	[04:34]
dub	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2339588/Up-12-women-allergic-semen-claims-leading-expert--wrongly-blaming-symptoms-STDs.html	[04:35]
ozbot	Up to 12% of women could be 'allergic to semen' claims leading expert - with many wrongly blaming th	[04:35]
dub	'Free semen allergy test'	[04:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1219 @ 0.00082683 = 1.0079 BTC [-]	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	anyone's an expert these days	[04:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111 @ 0.00082683 = 0.0918 BTC [-]	[04:37]
pankkake	it seems to only cover sperm in the vagina. who cares	[04:37]
dub	semen in vagina? how pedestrian	[04:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4170 @ 0.00082683 = 3.4479 BTC [-]	[04:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 400 @ 0.00102 = 0.408 BTC [-]	[04:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 12 @ 0.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]	[04:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 275 @ 0.004628 = 1.2727 BTC [-]	[04:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0429 = 0.2145 BTC [-]	[04:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.279 BTC [-]	[04:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.043 = 0.946 BTC [+]	[04:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.043 = 1.591 BTC [+]	[04:55]
dub	jesus fuck somebody wants me to attend a meeting at 9am	[05:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.043 BTC [+]	[05:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0429 = 0.6435 BTC [-]	[05:03]
Namworld	=O	[05:04]
Namworld	9 am? Who is even up at 5 am!	[05:04]
Namworld	Ugh... 9 am*	[05:05]
Namworld	2 PM to wake up at the earliest.	[05:05]
dub	usually on my 3rd coffee by 9 but its still far to early for meetings	[05:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 200 @ 0.0012 = 0.24 BTC [+]	[05:08]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0429 BTC [-]	[05:14]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 20 @ 0.018475 = 0.3695 BTC [+]	[05:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0429999 = 0.387 BTC [+]	[05:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.00988 BTC [+]	[05:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]	[05:19]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.269 BTC [-]	[05:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.174999 BTC [+]	[05:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.269 BTC [-]	[05:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.043 = 0.129 BTC [+]	[05:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.27 BTC [+]	[05:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.279 BTC [+]	[05:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.2887 = 8.5774 BTC [+]	[05:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.289 BTC [+]	[05:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.29 BTC [+]	[05:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [+]	[05:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.295 BTC [+]	[05:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1143 @ 0.00082797 = 0.9464 BTC [+]	[05:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.043 = 2.15 BTC [+]	[05:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1532 @ 0.001199 = 1.8369 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 68 @ 0.001199 = 0.0815 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 240 @ 0.001021 = 0.245 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 355 @ 0.00102 = 0.3621 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 90 @ 0.001002 = 0.0902 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001 = 0.1 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001 = 0.1 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 4 @ 0.001 = 0.004 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 43 @ 0.001 = 0.043 BTC [-]	[05:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.0012 = 0.03 BTC [+]	[05:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.043 = 0.172 BTC [+]	[05:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.169101 = 0.8455 BTC [-]	[05:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.25 BTC [-]	[05:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 21 @ 0.018476 = 0.388 BTC [+]	[05:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 19 @ 0.018478 = 0.3511 BTC [+]	[05:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 18 @ 0.01848 = 0.3326 BTC [+]	[05:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 17 @ 0.0185 = 0.3145 BTC [+]	[05:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 37 @ 0.018998 = 0.7029 BTC [+]	[05:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 63 @ 0.019 = 1.197 BTC [+]	[05:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 20 @ 0.019 = 0.38 BTC [+]	[05:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 450 @ 0.00221 = 0.9945 BTC [+]	[05:31]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [+]	[05:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 45 @ 0.031499 = 1.4175 BTC [-]	[05:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 55 @ 0.019 = 1.045 BTC [+]	[05:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [+]	[05:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.295 = 30.065 BTC [+]	[05:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0431 = 0.9913 BTC [+]	[05:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00082826 = 5.7978 BTC [+]	[05:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 8 @ 0.2 = 1.6 BTC [+]	[05:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0431 = 0.0862 BTC [+]	[05:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.04251 = 0.2976 BTC [-]	[05:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.042501 = 0.5525 BTC [-]	[05:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0431 = 0.431 BTC [+]	[05:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [-]	[05:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0023 BTC [+]	[05:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0429999 BTC [+]	[05:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.169101 = 0.8455 BTC [-]	[05:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0428 = 0.1284 BTC [-]	[05:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0425 = 0.255 BTC [-]	[05:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.04241 = 8.482 BTC [-]	[05:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0424 = 4.24 BTC [-]	[05:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 435 @ 0.04230001 = 18.4005 BTC [-]	[05:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.1691 = 1.691 BTC [-]	[05:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [+]	[05:48]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.004689 = 0.0094 BTC [+]	[05:50]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.173999 = 1.74 BTC [+]	[05:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 30 @ 0.174 = 5.22 BTC [+]	[05:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1902 @ 0.00082826 = 1.5754 BTC [+]	[05:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2492 @ 0.00083042 = 2.0694 BTC [+]	[05:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.2708 BTC [+]	[05:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.299999 = 1.5 BTC [-]	[05:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 58 @ 0.0425 = 2.465 BTC [+]	[05:59]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]	[06:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [+]	[06:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.043099 = 0.5603 BTC [-]	[06:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.0431 = 1.3792 BTC [+]	[06:03]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [-]	[06:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0431 BTC [+]	[06:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0431 BTC [+]	[06:06]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]	[06:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.029601 = 0.592 BTC [-]	[06:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.0296 = 0.296 BTC [-]	[06:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0427 = 2.0069 BTC [-]	[06:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.0431 = 0.6896 BTC [+]	[06:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029603 = 0.296 BTC [+]	[06:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.0296 = 0.296 BTC [-]	[06:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0429999 BTC [+]	[06:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0432 = 0.432 BTC [+]	[06:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]	[06:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+]	[06:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]	[06:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.042102 BTC [-]	[06:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]	[06:15]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[16:14]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading, I heard.	[16:14]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue May 14 16:38:49 2013	[16:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.19999998 BTC [+]	[16:15]
arij	kakobrekla, are you getting a bunch of them? are you making boards or something? taking orders? :D	[16:16]
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kakobrekla	well i have the capacity but dunno if theres a will	[16:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 260 @ 0.045 = 11.7 BTC [+]	[16:16]
arij	so	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:17]
arij	can i order	[16:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]	[16:17]
kakobrekla	well one can order a hooker in a bakery, and you will get it, but only if its a really good bakery	[16:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 315 @ 0.04444 = 13.9986 BTC [+]	[16:19]
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kakobrekla	sorry i have been up for too long	[16:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.500001 = 9 BTC [-]	[16:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [-]	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla : to quote my commenters, "You seem to be stark raving mad."	[16:19]
kakobrekla	heh	[16:20]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.460001 BTC [-]	[16:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46 BTC [-]	[16:24]
Diablo-D3	man	[16:24]
Diablo-D3	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yS3cnsr6ac	[16:24]
ozbot	Best of AMV Hell 6.66 - YouTube	[16:24]
Diablo-D3	skip to 8:30	[16:24]
Diablo-D3	wait for the chick	[16:24]
Diablo-D3	why does that chick look wrong	[16:24]
Diablo-D3	I cant quite put my finger on it	[16:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001099 = 0.1099 BTC [-]	[16:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 295 @ 0.0011 = 0.3245 BTC [+]	[16:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.0011 = 0.11 BTC [+]	[16:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.04444 = 0.0889 BTC [+]	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	if anyone is watching s.mg : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bad-error-messages-good-error-messages/#comment-93784	[16:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 210 @ 0.045 = 9.45 BTC [+]	[16:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 118 @ 0.045 = 5.31 BTC [+]	[16:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.045 = 1.125 BTC [+]	[16:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.045 = 0.09 BTC [+]	[16:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045 = 0.45 BTC [+]	[16:33]
kakobrekla	for the infidels dunno i would need b	[16:33]
kakobrekla	blah	[16:33]
kakobrekla	fucking paste	[16:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.549999 = 31.85 BTC [+]	[16:33]
kakobrekla	this http://shrani.si/f/34/13D/1vCcNryh/imag0327.jpg	[16:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 51 @ 0.046 = 2.346 BTC [+]	[16:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.55 BTC [+]	[16:34]
Diablo-D3	kakobrekla: what are those?	[16:34]
kakobrekla	fury asic	[16:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.5899 = 36.7192 BTC [+]	[16:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.589994 BTC [+]	[16:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 4.6 = 46 BTC [+]	[16:35]
pankkake	oh, bitfury. I read it as furry asics	[16:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.045 = 1.53 BTC [+]	[16:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65 = 9.3 BTC [+]	[16:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.659 = 32.613 BTC [+]	[16:36]
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mircea_popescu	lol pankkake would like some furry ass-icks ?	[16:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.04699 = 2.8194 BTC [+]	[16:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 33 @ 0.04444 = 1.4665 BTC [-]	[16:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 109 @ 0.044001 = 4.7961 BTC [-]	[16:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 858 @ 0.044 = 37.752 BTC [-]	[16:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0475 = 0.2375 BTC [+]	[16:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0475 = 0.3325 BTC [+]	[16:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001152 = 0.0115 BTC [+]	[16:43]
deadweasel	furry ass-licks? y'all need to stop smearing peanut butter on yourselves -- your pets are not sex toys!	[16:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0445 BTC [+]	[16:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]	[16:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.04499 = 0.09 BTC [+]	[16:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04499 = 0.135 BTC [+]	[16:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04499 BTC [+]	[16:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.04499 = 0.4949 BTC [+]	[16:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.047299 = 0.2365 BTC [-]	[16:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [+]	[16:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 70 @ 0.002323 = 0.1626 BTC [+]	[16:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 203 @ 0.002324 = 0.4718 BTC [+]	[16:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.002325 = 0.0814 BTC [+]	[16:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]	[16:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.659 BTC [+]	[16:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65999 = 9.32 BTC [+]	[16:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65999 BTC [+]	[16:54]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.047299 = 2.1285 BTC [-]	[16:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.0474 = 0.6636 BTC [+]	[16:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0474 = 1.3746 BTC [+]	[16:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.0475 = 1.2825 BTC [+]	[16:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6799 BTC [+]	[16:55]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.044989 = 0.135 BTC [-]	[16:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044989 BTC [-]	[16:56]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.600001 BTC [-]	[17:00]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044989 = 0.09 BTC [-]	[17:01]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]	[17:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.6 = 9.2 BTC [-]	[17:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.195 = 1.365 BTC [-]	[17:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00082595 = 1.8171 BTC [+]	[17:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.550002 = 9.1 BTC [-]	[17:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [-]	[17:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04848 = 0.1939 BTC [+]	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247640.0	[17:10]
ozbot	SCAMHACKER TradeFortress - Alt of Pirateat40	[17:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.028999 BTC [+]	[17:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.029 BTC [+]	[17:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.04848 = 2.0362 BTC [+]	[17:11]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.550008 BTC [+]	[17:14]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-]	[17:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.048 BTC [-]	[17:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-]	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	" I have concluded with 100% doubt that he is an alt of pirateat40."	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0482 = 0.0964 BTC [+]	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0482 = 0.8194 BTC [+]	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	i was actually just thinking a few days ago, wondering why everyone trusts coinlenders	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	every other loan provider does shitty, but somehow his can pay consistently	[17:20]
pankkake	"with 100% doubt"	[17:21]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.629999 BTC [+]	[17:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.004347 = 0.4347 BTC [-]	[17:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.509999 BTC [+]	[17:23]
*	GordonG3kko (~GordonG3k@gateway/tor-sasl/gordong3kko) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.044989 = 0.5849 BTC [-]	[17:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 200 @ 0.0011 = 0.22 BTC [-]	[17:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.04819 = 2.9878 BTC [-]	[17:25]
*	sasso (~sasso@89-212-240-32.static.t-2.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[17:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.04819 = 2.9878 BTC [-]	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves iirc he doesn't take very much, and scams people on ripple to make mad crazy .5 btc profits	[17:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.629995 BTC [-]	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235823.0	[17:27]
ozbot	Scammer label for Payb.tc/E&G (user 25846) (BitcoinMax)	[17:27]
ThickAsThieves	hanging out in the scam forum seems like a bad habit	[17:27]
ThickAsThieves	when i first posted in there i was like hmm i need to gtfo	[17:27]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 23 @ 0.00989 = 0.2275 BTC [+]	[17:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.043601 = 0.218 BTC [-]	[17:32]
mircea_popescu	hanging on teh forum is a bad habit entirely.	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	still, it's sort of like the zoo.	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	gotta keep in touch with nature.	[17:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.046001 = 2.3001 BTC [-]	[17:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.046 = 1.058 BTC [-]	[17:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.04785 = 0.1436 BTC [+]	[17:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.59 BTC [-]	[17:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.58 BTC [-]	[17:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.57 BTC [-]	[17:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.56 BTC [-]	[17:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 6 @ 0.00108 = 0.0065 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.00108 = 0.0054 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.00103 = 0.103 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.00102 = 0.0051 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 9 @ 0.001018 = 0.0092 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.001015 = 0.003 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 99 @ 0.001014 = 0.1004 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 190 @ 0.001013 = 0.1925 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 12 @ 0.001013 = 0.0122 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 571 @ 0.001012 = 0.5779 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.619998 BTC [+]	[17:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00082595 = 2.1062 BTC [+]	[17:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.04775 = 0.573 BTC [-]	[17:40]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.046 = 0.69 BTC [-]	[17:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]	[17:42]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.195 = 0.585 BTC [-]	[17:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.619999 BTC [+]	[17:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.62 BTC [+]	[17:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0477 BTC [+]	[17:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001165 BTC [+]	[17:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.058959 = 0.4717 BTC [-]	[17:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.05896 = 0.1179 BTC [+]	[17:48]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0477 = 1.0017 BTC [+]	[17:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.001165 = 0.0023 BTC [+]	[17:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029989 = 0.2999 BTC [+]	[17:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.64 BTC [+]	[17:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 11 @ 0.004354 = 0.0479 BTC [+]	[17:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 297 @ 0.00989 = 2.9373 BTC [+]	[17:51]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 13 @ 0.19875 = 2.5838 BTC [-]	[17:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [+]	[17:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.658 BTC [+]	[17:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 4.659 = 46.59 BTC [+]	[17:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [+]	[17:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [-]	[17:52]
thestringpuller	quiet ass weekend	[17:55]
thestringpuller	quiet ass monday	[17:55]
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thestringpuller	you niggas need to wake up	[17:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.001165 = 0.0082 BTC [+]	[17:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 19 @ 0.001167 = 0.0222 BTC [+]	[17:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [-]	[17:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.005199 BTC [+]	[17:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.005199 BTC [+]	[17:59]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047499 = 2.375 BTC [-]	[18:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0475 = 2.2325 BTC [+]	[18:02]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [+]	[18:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [+]	[18:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0475 BTC [+]	[18:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0437 = 0.1748 BTC [+]	[18:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0439 = 1.0975 BTC [+]	[18:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0475 = 0.285 BTC [+]	[18:08]
davout	thestringpuller: no niggers here, sorry	[18:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [-]	[18:09]
davout	thestringpuller: only proper aryans (except maybe some romanian managed to sneak in)	[18:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.001013 = 0.0071 BTC [-]	[18:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001013 = 0.0101 BTC [-]	[18:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001013 = 0.1013 BTC [-]	[18:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1216 @ 0.001013 = 1.2318 BTC [-]	[18:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 763 @ 0.00082529 = 0.6297 BTC [-]	[18:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6187 @ 0.00082518 = 5.1054 BTC [-]	[18:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044979 = 0.09 BTC [+]	[18:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.015021 = 0.0901 BTC [+]	[18:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [-]	[18:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0475 = 0.095 BTC [+]	[18:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.66 = 23.3 BTC [+]	[18:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0475 = 0.8075 BTC [+]	[18:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0475 = 0.5225 BTC [+]	[18:23]
thestringpuller	nigga not nigger da fuck is wrong wit u	[18:24]
thestringpuller	come on mang	[18:24]
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mjr_	hi guys	[18:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [-]	[18:24]
mjr_	does anyone have bugpowders spreadsheet?	[18:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.65 = 13.95 BTC [-]	[18:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.65 = 18.6 BTC [-]	[18:26]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [+]	[18:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.65 = 13.95 BTC [-]	[18:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 61 @ 0.044979 = 2.7437 BTC [+]	[18:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.66 = 18.64 BTC [+]	[18:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.002348 = 0.007 BTC [+]	[18:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [+]	[18:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047001 = 2.3501 BTC [-]	[18:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04691 BTC [-]	[18:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0469 = 0.2345 BTC [-]	[18:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0465 = 0.093 BTC [-]	[18:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0451 = 0.2706 BTC [-]	[18:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0475 = 0.8075 BTC [+]	[18:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.044969 = 0.4497 BTC [-]	[18:32]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0451 = 0.1353 BTC [-]	[18:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.7 = 9.4 BTC [+]	[18:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044979 = 0.09 BTC [+]	[18:34]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 123 @ 0.04498 = 5.5325 BTC [+]	[18:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.04499 = 0.4949 BTC [+]	[18:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0475 = 0.285 BTC [+]	[18:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.044969 = 1.2591 BTC [-]	[18:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.043518 = 2.1759 BTC [-]	[18:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04351101 BTC [-]	[18:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04351 = 0.1305 BTC [-]	[18:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.04329 = 0.7359 BTC [-]	[18:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.04251188 = 2.1256 BTC [-]	[18:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 151 @ 0.042501 = 6.4177 BTC [-]	[18:37]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10582 @ 0.00082595 = 8.7402 BTC [+]	[18:45]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0451 = 1.0373 BTC [-]	[18:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.046999 = 1.175 BTC [+]	[18:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.044 = 0.572 BTC [+]	[18:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04499 = 0.4499 BTC [+]	[18:51]
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mircea_popescu	mjr : prolly bugpowder.	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	davout when did froggies become aryans ?!	[18:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.04499 = 0.5849 BTC [+]	[18:54]
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davout	mircea_popescu: when they started giving away all these flyers for this bike race	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	o i c	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.716 = 9.432 BTC [+]	[18:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.71699 BTC [+]	[18:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.718 = 9.436 BTC [+]	[18:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.046999 = 1.175 BTC [+]	[18:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047 = 2.35 BTC [+]	[18:58]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 40 @ 0.001129 = 0.0452 BTC [+]	[18:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.729 BTC [+]	[18:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.729 = 18.916 BTC [+]	[18:59]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04699 BTC [-]	[19:00]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.04699 = 0.094 BTC [-]	[19:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.046501 = 0.279 BTC [-]	[19:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.019999 = 0.2 BTC [-]	[19:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [-]	[19:05]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.680002 BTC [-]	[19:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.672 = 9.344 BTC [-]	[19:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.650001 = 32.55 BTC [-]	[19:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65 = 9.3 BTC [-]	[19:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.64 = 13.92 BTC [-]	[19:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.6 = 18.4 BTC [-]	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[19:06]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 92.10900, Best ask: 92.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19100, Last trade: 92.32447, 24 hour volume: 19500.36827999, 24 hour low: 91.68100, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 94.55811	[19:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.046501 = 1.2555 BTC [-]	[19:06]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001015 BTC [-]	[19:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 6 @ 0.001014 = 0.0061 BTC [-]	[19:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 4 @ 0.001013 = 0.0041 BTC [-]	[19:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.046501 = 0.093 BTC [-]	[19:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.046501 = 0.6975 BTC [-]	[19:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.046501 = 0.1395 BTC [-]	[19:10]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.046501 = 0.279 BTC [-]	[19:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 66 @ 0.046501 = 3.0691 BTC [-]	[19:11]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.04699 = 0.5639 BTC [+]	[19:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.04699 = 0.2819 BTC [+]	[19:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04699 = 0.188 BTC [+]	[19:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.0449889 = 0.5849 BTC [-]	[19:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 71 @ 0.0449899 = 3.1943 BTC [+]	[19:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044988 BTC [-]	[19:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 24 @ 0.04499 = 1.0798 BTC [+]	[19:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.04499 = 0.5399 BTC [+]	[19:14]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186899 BTC [+]	[19:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 43 @ 0.002348 = 0.101 BTC [+]	[19:17]
ThickAsThieves	I noticed Chaang-Noi disappeared ever since his buddy Garr255 got caught socking	[19:18]
ThickAsThieves	;;seen chaang-noi	[19:18]
gribble	chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: yeah mp, you are getting trolled here	[19:18]
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mircea_popescu	it's probably more related to gold/silver getting fucked.	[19:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.0051 = 0.0255 BTC [-]	[19:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 50 @ 0.001125 = 0.0563 BTC [+]	[19:20]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.005 = 0.01 BTC [-]	[19:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.046989 BTC [-]	[19:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.699999 BTC [+]	[19:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 25 @ 0.0051 = 0.1275 BTC [+]	[19:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04314203 = 0.1294 BTC [-]	[19:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.001013 = 0.0051 BTC [-]	[19:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 429 @ 0.001012 = 0.4341 BTC [-]	[19:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1024 @ 0.00101 = 1.0342 BTC [-]	[19:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1402 @ 0.001149 = 1.6109 BTC [+]	[19:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 500 @ 0.00115 = 0.575 BTC [+]	[19:24]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.61 = 13.83 BTC [-]	[19:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.605002 BTC [-]	[19:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.605002 = 18.42 BTC [-]	[19:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.19999 = 1.9999 BTC [+]	[19:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186899 BTC [+]	[19:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.043156 = 0.2589 BTC [+]	[19:27]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2984 @ 0.00115 = 3.4316 BTC [+]	[19:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.699998 = 18.8 BTC [+]	[19:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.046989 = 0.4699 BTC [-]	[19:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.186999 = 0.374 BTC [+]	[19:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04316 BTC [+]	[19:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 114 @ 0.00115 = 0.1311 BTC [+]	[19:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.04316 = 0.5611 BTC [+]	[19:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186999 BTC [+]	[19:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.029989 BTC [+]	[19:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5213 @ 0.00082518 = 4.3017 BTC [-]	[19:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1377 @ 0.00082512 = 1.1362 BTC [-]	[19:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.046989 = 0.188 BTC [-]	[19:34]
mjr_	whats the equation for puts again?	[19:35]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.679998 BTC [-]	[19:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.289 = 3.468 BTC [-]	[19:46]
mjr_	is jurov here?	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ which one you mean ?	[19:51]
mjr_	was trying to graph the function	[19:52]
mjr_	but couldn't remember the put equation	[19:52]
mjr_	call is what... y = (x-strike)/strike ?	[19:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.04452899 = 0.4008 BTC [+]	[19:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04452999 BTC [+]	[19:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.046989 = 0.188 BTC [-]	[19:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.046989 = 0.094 BTC [-]	[19:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0449 = 1.1225 BTC [+]	[19:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04499 = 0.4499 BTC [+]	[19:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.04499 = 1.3497 BTC [+]	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[19:54]
mjr_	so put would be...	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	and (strike-x)/strike	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	but they are all capped at 0. positive only.	[19:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.04499 = 0.18 BTC [+]	[19:55]
mjr_	yeah so its abs value of the difference between strike and current	[19:55]
mjr_	or should i say, 24hvwap	[19:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 68 @ 0.0465 = 3.162 BTC [-]	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	yea	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	no.	[19:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.68 BTC [+]	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	abs (2-4) is 2 whereas the proper value is 0.	[19:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 6 @ 0.005092 = 0.0306 BTC [-]	[19:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.7 = 18.8 BTC [+]	[19:58]
mjr_	ah good point	[19:58]
imsaguy	wtf would you know about proper?	[19:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0469 = 0.0938 BTC [+]	[19:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04498999 = 0.135 BTC [-]	[20:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1150 @ 0.0011 = 1.265 BTC [-]	[20:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.7 = 23.5 BTC [+]	[20:01]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 117 @ 0.009999 = 1.1699 BTC [+]	[20:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009999 = 0.04 BTC [+]	[20:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.00509 = 0.0102 BTC [-]	[20:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [+]	[20:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.73 BTC [+]	[20:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.739 = 28.434 BTC [+]	[20:11]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: you still around?	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	yes	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	imsaguy dun hate >D	[20:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0466 = 0.9786 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.6061 = 9.2122 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.57 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 4.56 = 95.76 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.555 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 4.5542 = 63.7588 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 65 @ 4.554 = 296.01 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.54505 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.54505 BTC [-]	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0465 = 0.093 BTC [-]	[20:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0465 = 0.372 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.046 = 0.46 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0459 = 0.6885 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0456 = 4.56 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0456 = 0.1368 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.04525 = 0.1358 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045003 = 0.45 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.045003 = 0.09 BTC [-]	[20:15]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: okay so when money is deposited into the tentative game	[20:19]
thestringpuller	it creates drops/loot/items/shit in general	[20:19]
thestringpuller	okay so my question is you will withdraw from this pool?	[20:19]
thestringpuller	to pay niggas?	[20:20]
thestringpuller	niggas being developers staff in general	[20:20]
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mircea_popescu	nope.	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	. The value of destroyed items (such as principally food, which will be required for all players) will instead cover game development and operational costs.	[20:22]
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mircea_popescu	it's right in there you know, the 2nd paragraph of point i	[20:23]
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mjr_	where can i read about it?	[20:25]
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mircea_popescu	if you mean the rpg, here http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/statements-regarding-the-mmorpg-under-development-i-v/	[20:25]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: okay so there is a "subscription" cost?	[20:26]
jborkl	I would steer clear aof said user IMO	[20:26]
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jborkl	of	[20:27]
thestringpuller	you've solved entropa's cash flow problem	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	there's a sort-of subscription cost.	[20:27]
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thestringpuller	well the cashflow comes from users having to "live" aka food	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	jborkl notably actually there's two of them here, one with an o one with a 0	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	yes thestringpuller.	[20:28]
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thestringpuller	entropa's problem was that there was no cashflow	[20:28]
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thestringpuller	people dumped money into the pool	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	the catch is that higher powered players will probably want the higher powered effects of food, and thus subscription for leet ppl will be higher than subscriotion for noobs.	[20:28]
thestringpuller	but there was no "flow"	[20:28]
thestringpuller	that's a little scandalous imo	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	whyssat ?	[20:29]
thestringpuller	well first answer this, can you trade for food?	[20:29]
thestringpuller	or moreover	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	yes, you trade and craft it.	[20:29]
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thestringpuller	lemme rephrase	[20:30]
thestringpuller	are there any "unique" destroyable items in the game that are destroyable	[20:30]
thestringpuller	by unique I mean player bound	[20:30]
thestringpuller	as in the player can not relinquish it	[20:30]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[20:30]
thestringpuller	okay then it's not so scandalous	[20:30]
mircea_popescu	there are no bound items in general, that's bullshit/nonsense made by bad designers	[20:30]
mircea_popescu	to try and stem the tide	[20:30]
mircea_popescu	anyway, re food : you can live your entire life on iron rats.	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	it's just if you want tio have a bottle of elven wine or w/e, well... it's gonna cost you more. deal with it or else go back to springwater	[20:31]
mircea_popescu	sorta like irl, you can live on army rations just fine.	[20:31]
thestringpuller	that wasn't really my point	[20:31]
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mircea_popescu	ah	[20:32]
thestringpuller	so if you use the emergence to your advantage there could be a n00b that rises to power without depositing any money at all	[20:32]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[20:32]
thestringpuller	which makes it less scandalous imo	[20:32]
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thestringpuller	he trades and uses skill to go from pusherman to godfather	[20:33]
thestringpuller	similar to the anarchy of eve	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	many will try, few will succeed, life moves right on	[20:33]
thestringpuller	well sure	[20:33]
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thestringpuller	but the emergence will be your friend you realize this no?	[20:33]
mjr_	hmmm, so would it be potentially possible to profit by playing?	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	what you mean by emergence ?	[20:33]
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mircea_popescu	mjr_ yes.	[20:33]
mjr_	very cool	[20:34]
mjr_	i like this already	[20:34]
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mircea_popescu	it;'s for bitcoin ffs. how else ?	[20:34]
thestringpuller	emergent gameplay is created by the game doing things the designer didn't intend but exists anyways	[20:34]
thestringpuller	eve's anarchy is a textbook example	[20:34]
thestringpuller	it just happens	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller im of a diff philosophy. it's not my job to micromanage the player/make poaths etc.	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	it's my job to crerate a level playing field.	[20:34]
thestringpuller	but that's what I'm getting at	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	right	[20:35]
thestringpuller	you see with emergence the players create their own world so to speak	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	exactly the idea.	[20:35]
mjr_	that is a great strategy	[20:35]
thestringpuller	that's why Eve remains successful in the face of WoW	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	probably taken to extremes as players will be able to create their own code/gfx etc too	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	course they kinda suck at it so far, but hey.	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	mebbe in time	[20:35]
thestringpuller	you should watch an anime called .hack//sign	[20:36]
mjr_	if you capture a small portion of WoW players in china it will be a smashing success	[20:36]
mjr_	and i think you are doing that	[20:36]
thestringpuller	that's pretty much what your game will become	[20:36]
mjr_	by introducing monetization	[20:36]
mjr_	i would "recommend" reading REAMDE, it talks a lot about such things and I hope this becomes something like that	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	cool then	[20:36]
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thestringpuller	what you'll have is stuff appearing in the code you never thought could exist	[20:37]
imsaguy	but will there be blocks out of which we can build things?!?!	[20:37]
thestringpuller	get the fuck out of here imsaguy with that minecraft shit	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	imsaguy the usual. blender. what have you	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	most of the code is open source anyway	[20:37]
imsaguy	will there be zombies?	[20:37]
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thestringpuller	get the fuck out of here with that left 4 dead shit imsaguy	[20:38]
thestringpuller	lol	[20:38]
thestringpuller	jkjk	[20:38]
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imsaguy	thestringpuller: hey assmuch, there are a lot more games than left4dead that have zombies.	[20:38]
mircea_popescu	so apparently the forum has a hole in it allowing acct hijacks	[20:38]
imsaguy	assmunch*	[20:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [+]	[20:38]
imsaguy	mircea_popescu: as expected.	[20:38]
mircea_popescu	imsaguy eventually.	[20:38]
imsaguy	mircea_popescu: as expected (again).	[20:39]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: so how will players build things? as imsaguy alluded to, the crafting...	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	most of the game content will depend on the playerbase in-game building towards it.	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	as in finding recipes and whatnot.	[20:39]
thestringpuller	okay but how?	[20:39]
imsaguy	recipes?	[20:39]
thestringpuller	resources in ground?	[20:39]
imsaguy	wtf is this? the foodnetwork game?	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	for one, yes, resources in the ground.	[20:39]
thestringpuller	cooking mama	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	but if you want the nice sword the orcs have either you trade with them	[20:39]
imsaguy	diner dash 2.0	[20:39]
mircea_popescu	or else bash them, steal the swords, copy the design	[20:40]
imsaguy	one does not trade with orcs	[20:40]
imsaguy	the only trading with an orc you do is once its dead.	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	then enjoy being an orc cocksock.	[20:40]
thestringpuller	one does not simply walk into orc-land	[20:40]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.469 = 8.938 BTC [+]	[20:42]
thestringpuller	so mircea_popescu so resources are finite based on btc flow?	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[20:42]
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thestringpuller	yay there will be cartels!!!!!!	[20:43]
thestringpuller	lol	[20:43]
thestringpuller	so i don't know mircea_popescu if you've played eve	[20:44]
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mircea_popescu	well actually, the idea is all towns will be player made/controlled	[20:44]
thestringpuller	but there was this war they had	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	so will be various means of transportation (roads, teleports, what have you)	[20:44]
thestringpuller	yea so mircea_popescu you will have cartels guarenteed	[20:45]
thestringpuller	but this will depend on playerbase	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller i was invited in the beta of eq2 and wow - they came out about the same time	[20:45]
benkay_	cartels make for more fun	[20:45]
thestringpuller	the more players the more fun	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	they both sucked, imo. quit before they opened for public	[20:45]
benkay_	try playing eve solo	[20:45]
thestringpuller	lol	[20:45]
thestringpuller	benkay_: Not fun at all	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	esp the eq crafting system was retarded.	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	well the wow too, but from wow i didn't expect anything	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	blizzard never got crafting, fuck the horadrim cube.	[20:46]
thestringpuller	da fuck?	[20:46]
thestringpuller	that's d2	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	so ?	[20:46]
thestringpuller	d2 didn't need no stinkin' crafting	[20:46]
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thestringpuller	d2 is crack	[20:46]
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mircea_popescu	i don't argue that.	[20:46]
thestringpuller	you play it for 2 hours get your fix and then shake in the corner	[20:46]
mircea_popescu	but if you want to be a d2 crafter... gl lol	[20:47]
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mircea_popescu	s.mg june statement if anyone wants to weigh in on btc accounting standards >> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smg-june-2013-statement/	[21:06]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu has anyone besides myself approached you for publishing?	[21:12]
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mircea_popescu	yes.	[21:14]
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davout	mircea_popescu: why don't you present the usual assets/liabilities balance sheet in addition to the cash flows and accounts list ?	[21:14]
thestringpuller	nice what will the publishing platform look like?	[21:14]
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mircea_popescu	davout cause i figured this is much shorter, easier to read and easier to comprehend by even moderately literate business ppl.	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	do you think anything gets hurt ?	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller how do you mean ?	[21:15]
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thestringpuller	someone brings you game	[21:15]
thestringpuller	it is sellable	[21:15]
thestringpuller	how does S.MG publish?	[21:15]
thestringpuller	you going to go door to door in romania?	[21:16]
thestringpuller	:P	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	depends on the game, really.	[21:16]
thestringpuller	my game for instance a 2d standalone	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	which is frustratingly vague, yes, i know	[21:16]
thestringpuller	i guess we will see next week	[21:17]
thestringpuller	:D	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	hehe k	[21:17]
thestringpuller	lemme ask this	[21:19]
thestringpuller	what is the max cut S.MG would take...	[21:19]
thestringpuller	i know that is negotiable	[21:19]
thestringpuller	but humor me :)	[21:19]
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davout	mircea_popescu: i think an assets/liabilities is quite useful, i think it gives a quite synthetic and understandable picture of the situation, it is expected by people who are used to accounting, and is easy enough to understand for anyone who has any business reading financial statements anyway	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	it's negotiable in the following sense. you have a game which we suppose agree took 1k btc to make. if we agree it's sensible i spend 1k btc pushing it then i expect half the revenue.	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	if we agree it makes no sense to spend over 100 btc then i want something like 10%	[21:21]
thestringpuller	but you said you don't like advertising...	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	the numeric application is only there to make the point	[21:21]
thestringpuller	I see	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	what i like makes no difference, this is biznis neh ?	[21:21]
davout	thestringpuller: i tell my friends i don't like fat chicks	[21:21]
thestringpuller	harharharhar	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	davout you perhaps jhave a good point here	[21:21]
thestringpuller	u guise	[21:21]
thestringpuller	but fat chicks are kinda good in bed if they aren't too fat	[21:22]
thestringpuller	"Curvy"	[21:22]
mircea_popescu	davout you figure turn the present "accounts" thing into more of a normal balance ?	[21:22]
davout	mircea_popescu: something that sums to zero is, and has always been the easiest thing to check	[21:22]
davout	mircea_popescu: take your accounts list	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	okay. i kinda have to ditch the start/change/end format then,	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	but i guess that's kind of redundant anyway	[21:23]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: your model reminds me of the 80's	[21:23]
thestringpuller	when people would take a floppy	[21:23]
davout	no, because you put it in front of the capital	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller 1880s ?	[21:23]
thestringpuller	and put it up in the local story	[21:23]
thestringpuller	store*	[21:23]
davout	the best is to have it all	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	davout well the best that has it all is the 500 page ifrs	[21:24]
davout	take your accounts list, add a column, toss the capital on the right side, poof, sums to zero	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	i don't think 500 page reports are actually useful in btc atm	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	hm	[21:24]
davout	mircea_popescu: when did my additional table turn into 500 pages ? :-)	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	may i bitch ?	[21:24]
davout	mircea_popescu: don't you already pay someone for this ?	[21:25]
davout	mircea_popescu: man up and send her	[21:25]
davout	XD	[21:25]
davout	okay, be my guest	[21:25]
thestringpuller	she doesn't like IRC	[21:25]
thestringpuller	she's afraid of real time interaction	[21:25]
thestringpuller	cause all the nerds will try to get in her pants	[21:25]
davout	thestringpuller: they all bleed a bit the first time you know	[21:25]
thestringpuller	yup	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	davout http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smg-june-2013-statement/	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	how do you like that ?	[21:27]
thestringpuller	unbeknownst to us MPOE-PR is eavesdropping here	[21:27]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: you made me use a credit to refresh the page	[21:27]
thestringpuller	come on	[21:27]
thestringpuller	ol	[21:27]
thestringpuller	lol	[21:27]
thestringpuller	jkjk	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	as they say in washington dc,	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	fuck you, pay me.	[21:27]
davout	mircea_popescu: i am pleased	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	do you perhaps want me to add charges for the warrants too ?	[21:28]
davout	mircea_popescu: i'm more used to have it presented in two different columns but the info is here	[21:28]
davout	btw is there any difference between "shareholders equity" and "capital" or are they synonyms ?	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	ya well, i can't make 12 columns as i don't want to turn my blog into an aicraft carrier	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	not synonims, no	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	but no difference either.	[21:29]
davout	mircea_popescu: yea, that was just me whining	[21:29]
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mircea_popescu	capital is usually short for operating capital	[21:29]
davout	the way i define capital is "the debt to the shareholders"	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	that's nonsense, as the shareholders aren't owed any btc.	[21:30]
davout	operating capital would be something else by me, but that might just be my english	[21:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 19 @ 0.029989 = 0.5698 BTC [+]	[21:30]
davout	capital is a liability to the shareholders	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	yes it is	[21:31]
davout	so ? what are we arguing?	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	but an equitable point, rather than an owed debt	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	we're aguing incredibly fine points of legalese.	[21:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.0291 = 1.455 BTC [-]	[21:31]
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davout	mircea_popescu: i'm getting hard, let's go on	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	basically the shareholders have no title claim to the capital they put in	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	but merely an equitable claim	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	in the simplest translation of common law that even a napoleonic lout might get, they don't have tyhe right to THAT capital. just to something equivalent, as practicable.	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	the distinction comes fromwhether you can claim to be given THE lost sheep, or A sheep in place of THE sheep.	[21:32]
davout	i'm not sure of the nuance you're making here but if it's something saying that the shareholder can't simply knock on the door and get the nominal value of his share paid to him then i agree :-)	[21:32]
mircea_popescu	something like that yes.	[21:33]
davout	word	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	it has plenty of implications.	[21:33]
davout	i'm not really sure about what you said earlier about the warrants	[21:33]
davout	yea, it's not "debt", guess i misused the word :-)	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	technically speaking they should be in the accounts as they're a materially different situation than simply not existing	[21:33]
davout	the warrants ?	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	exactly HOW you account for outstanding warrants however...	[21:34]
davout	i need to re-read how they are defined	[21:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [+]	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	right to acquire shares at specified price after specified date.	[21:34]
davout	like a stock option, right ?	[21:34]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[21:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1000 @ 0.00103 = 1.03 BTC [-]	[21:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.550006 = 13.65 BTC [+]	[21:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 230 @ 0.00101 = 0.2323 BTC [-]	[21:36]
davout	very good question	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	ty ty	[21:37]
davout	is there any form of risk associated for MG ?	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	yes. for instance, it could suck.	[21:37]
davout	no, i mean, will the shares be created out of thin air ?	[21:38]
davout	or will they be bought	[21:38]
davout	?	[21:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.51 BTC [-]	[21:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.5 = 9 BTC [-]	[21:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.5 = 18 BTC [-]	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	bought at the price. having a warrant for 1 share at 1 btc means you pay 1 btc get the share	[21:38]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.599951 = 13.7999 BTC [+]	[21:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.045 = 0.225 BTC [+]	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	the only catch is that the par value of that share by then MAY be higher	[21:38]
davout	that's not what I mean	[21:38]
davout	will the shares be summoned into existence by MG or will MG buy the shares at market price and resell them to the holders of a warrant at the agreed-upon price ?	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	the former.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	basically, the us govt bonds are in fact us govt stock warrants	[21:39]
davout	ok, so there's zero risk for MG	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	whenever they come due they just issue more dollarsd and pay	[21:39]
davout	let's not get into this right now	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	ok :)	[21:39]
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davout	there's zero risk for MG, the ones actually bearing a risk are the shareholders, not MG	[21:40]
davout	there's really nothing to provision	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	there may be nothing to provision in that perspective, however,	[21:40]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.00107 = 0.0021 BTC [+]	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	it could be argued that a company with issued sws is worth less than the same w/o having issued them	[21:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.04489999 = 0.1796 BTC [-]	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	this has to be accounted as this is the point of accountingh	[21:41]
davout	just account for it as exceptional revenue when it comes in, if it does, any loss relative to the par market price will be borne by shareholders getting diluted at a bargain	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	that yes.	[21:41]
davout	mircea_popescu: it doesn't have to be accounted for per-se, but the warrants list has to come with the financial statements, because as you said it is something that needs to be taken into account to get a full picture of the company	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	anyway. i did include a disclosure, so.	[21:42]
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mircea_popescu	right.	[21:42]
davout	which is good, the contrary wouldn't have been right	[21:42]
davout	it starts getting fun when you think that management might want to cover the "unfair" dilution risk by hedging the warrants using inside information	[21:43]
davout	especially if said management holds shares :-)	[21:43]
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mircea_popescu	management holds a shitton of warrants in the first place	[21:44]
davout	lol	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	which kinda hedges the entire thing	[21:44]
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mircea_popescu	well... one of the advantages of management getting ssws in the first place.	[21:44]
davout	you lost me here	[21:44]
davout	is the motivation to get a god deal on them	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	well, play out an example for me.	[21:45]
davout	YOU lost me	[21:45]
davout	YOU play an example	[21:45]
davout	just one question	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	ok. company A has 100 shares issued, of which managwement owns 10. company A has 100 shares issued as sws to mnanagement	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	now what's management to hedge re its 10 issued shares ?	[21:46]
davout	why would it want to hedge them against getting diluted since it also owns 10x more warrants ?	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[21:47]
davout	(and i read that correctly on the MG statement, you have as much outstanding warrants than issued shares, right?)	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	so the issuing of sws to managemend hedges against this situation you described	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	as IPO issued yes.	[21:47]
davout	doesn't this somehow equate to the management not really acting in the shareholder's interest ?	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	i imagine exactly the contrary.	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	how do you fiugre ?	[21:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.045 = 2.385 BTC [+]	[21:48]
davout	dunno, it was a legitimate question	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04460001 = 0.1338 BTC [-]	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	well, if share value drops management has nothing.	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 31 @ 0.0446 = 1.3826 BTC [-]	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 144 @ 0.044529 = 6.4122 BTC [-]	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 104 @ 0.04452899 = 4.631 BTC [-]	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	if share value doubles management realises half that gain, investors the other half	[21:49]
davout	hmm	[21:49]
davout	guess it requires some additionnal brain crunching here :-)	[21:49]
davout	anyway, i had a question regarding the financial statements	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	simple example : A and B meet to make a fishery. A contributes 100 BTC gets 100 shares, B is going to fish, gets 100 sws at 1.	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	if at the end the fishery is worth 200 btc,	[21:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 55 @ 0.288201 = 15.8511 BTC [-]	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	then B brings 100 btc in, gets his 100 shares, and now a 300 btc corp is divided to 200 shares	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	each getting 150 and going home	[21:50]
davout	explained like that it sounds about right :-)	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	was the idea anyway	[21:51]
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davout	okay, other question	[21:51]
davout	why don't you start amortising (spellt that way) the server right away ?	[21:51]
davout	(spellt that way?)	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:51]
davout	ugh	[21:51]
davout	bon, pourquoi tu commences pas à l'amortir tout de suite ton serveur ?	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	pque amortissements au fin d'un interval non ?	[21:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.002348 = 1.174 BTC [+]	[21:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 191 @ 0.04452899 = 8.505 BTC [-]	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	actually let's switch back to english, ppl will be trying to translate your frogspeak for no avail	[21:53]
kakobrekla	le sujet est maintenant brouettes	[21:54]
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davout	either you account for them on a monthly basis (which i've never seen, but this is BTC after all) or on a yearly basis, you seem to go for the former, so my question is "why don't you start accounting for an expense of 1/12th of the server value on month #1"	[21:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 225 @ 0.045 = 10.125 BTC [+]	[21:54]
davout	also you're amortising on one year IIUC which is quite creative :-)	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	because i'm of the school that the respective charge belongs in month 2 and is reported in month 2	[21:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.55 = 9.1 BTC [-]	[21:54]
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davout	kakobrekla: la brouette moldave, ma position sexuelle préférée	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	as in, amortisation only after a FULL period	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	if its after a full period it can;'t be reported in the respective period	[21:55]
kakobrekla	lol ok davout	[21:55]
davout	it represents an expense on month #1 too since you probably need it for dev purposes, and it's ok to prorate	[21:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.044 = 0.748 BTC [-]	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	i could prorate, i just don't see that i'd have to.	[21:56]
davout	why are you amortising in the first place btw ?	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	because if you liquidate today you have a server worth x	[21:56]
davout	yeah, I'm just asking questions :-)	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	and if you liquidate in 6 months you have a server worth x/2	[21:56]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044 = 0.264 BTC [-]	[21:56]
davout	yes, whip me	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.001081 = 0.0216 BTC [+]	[21:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 22 @ 0.00105 = 0.0231 BTC [-]	[21:57]
davout	so then, why one year? i don't know with other countries but in france you usually amortise IT stuff on 3 years, the rest on 5 and buildings on 20	[21:57]
mircea_popescu	cause i got it for a year.	[21:57]
davout	you're getting me confused, did you buy it? for one year?	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	yes ?	[21:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.044 = 0.176 BTC [-]	[21:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.7448 BTC [-]	[21:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.04301 = 0.6882 BTC [-]	[22:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.042801 = 1.6692 BTC [-]	[22:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.0428 = 1.0272 BTC [-]	[22:01]
davout	like to me it sounds contradictory, either you rent for a limited time, or you buy and it's yours forevar	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	that sounds a little nutty. what's leasing in this approach ?	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	and what's "forever" mean.	[22:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.044 = 1.32 BTC [+]	[22:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.186999 = 3.179 BTC [+]	[22:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.185 = 0.37 BTC [-]	[22:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.015021 = 0.0601 BTC [+]	[22:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 3.4 = 27.2 BTC [-]	[22:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.505 BTC [+]	[22:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.045 = 0.315 BTC [+]	[22:02]
benkay	what happens at the end of the year?	[22:03]
benkay	do you have to give box back to another entity?	[22:03]
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davout	did you buy the physical box? or did you buy the right to use it for one year, it think that's the question	[22:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.51 BTC [+]	[22:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.04488 = 0.763 BTC [+]	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	the later	[22:04]
davout	ok, that's what i call "renting"	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	benkay yeah. because i don't want to be stuck with one year odl boxes.	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	they go on to run shared servers or w/e loosened out boxes do in this life.	[22:05]
davout	to a french person, leasing is like some stuff you do usually with cars where you pay a fat premium the first month, and then rent it	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	actually... they probably end up sold to the government	[22:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.545 BTC [+]	[22:05]
davout	so yeah, i don't really understand why you'd amortise something that you do not own	[22:06]
davout	since it's not going to stay in your books as an asset	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	well it is... for a year.	[22:06]
davout	and it's accounted under "tangibles"	[22:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 60 @ 0.187 = 11.22 BTC [+]	[22:06]
davout	when you have amortised something, that this something reaches a zero accounting value, that means you still own the physical thing	[22:07]
davout	which is consistent with accounting for it under "tangibles"	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	so i have a special knapsack where i keep the 0 value items ?	[22:07]
davout	an item that has a 0 accounting value may still have a shitton of utility value	[22:07]
davout	the proper way to account for this is to write an expense under "IT services"	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	the rationale behind that separation between "tangibles" and "intangibles and goodwill" was that some items have a resale value. these are tangible.	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	some others do not or not necessarily. these are intangible.	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	davout yes it would be, at the cost of making a more extensive account plan than "cash", "type 1" and "type 2"	[22:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 160 @ 0.04452899 = 7.1246 BTC [-]	[22:09]
davout	to me tangible is something i can touch, in my understanding IP is intangible yet it can be resold	[22:09]
davout	it might just be a language problem here	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	well arguably you can touch myserver	[22:09]
davout	except it's not yours	[22:09]
davout	you didn't buy it	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	...	[22:09]
davout	you bought the right to use it for one year	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	well in this sense the house you own is not "yours" as you only have fee simple on it.	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	i own it, under a certain title.	[22:10]
davout	can you resell the box ? no, so what you bought is a service, tracking its accounting value makes no real sense	[22:10]
benkay	at the end of amortization, you don't have a thing to sell for scrap value.	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	yes i can	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	of course i can resell it. it's mine ><	[22:11]
davout	no you can resell the remainder of your one year period	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	right	[22:11]
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asciilifeform	you don't really own land unless you have 'Infangthief' on it!	[22:11]
davout	the box is not yours, the service is, you can resell the service, but you don't usually amortise IT services like this (which is another way of saying it's horribly wrong)	[22:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044999 = 0.09 BTC [-]	[22:12]
benkay	mp amortizes how he wants yo	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	ok, here's the concept. i spent some BTC.	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	these btc can't be taken as a one time charge, as they reflect a multi-period thing	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	it matches the amortisation just whine what are you whining about!	[22:12]
davout	meh	[22:13]
mircea_popescu	no but i mean, is there something lost ?	[22:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00082595 = 2.9734 BTC [+]	[22:13]
mircea_popescu	(i mean it matches the amortisation just fine*)	[22:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.044999 = 0.63 BTC [-]	[22:14]
davout	the whole "it can't be taken as a one time charge" is relevant when you use expenses to reduce your net result as a way to reduce your taxes, i don't think it has much relevance in BTC-LAND	[22:14]
davout	whoops	[22:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 30 @ 0.019999 = 0.6 BTC [-]	[22:14]
davout	anyway, like you said, it doesn't really matter that much	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	well it may grow to matter in time	[22:15]
davout	if I was you I would account it as an expense every month	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	one of the reasons im doing this is to sound out some sort of accounting/reporting scheme for nonzero asset companies	[22:15]
davout	it also depends on whether you already shelled the money out	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	so the poring is much appreciated	[22:15]
davout	i'll sell you a full accounting piece of software	[22:16]
davout	XD	[22:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.044999 = 1.53 BTC [-]	[22:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044999 = 0.27 BTC [-]	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	as to the relevance :it's not just taxes. why should a shareholder that buys now get the benefit of an arbitrary charge for 1 year ?	[22:16]
davout	which i used for accounting at my first startup	[22:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	tyvm. i'm trying to reinvent the wheel deliberately. both gaap and irfs suck.	[22:17]
davout	but how does your way of accounting change that? doesn't the server already exist ?	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	yes, it does already exist	[22:17]
davout	so, i'm not sure what your way of accounting changes	[22:17]
davout	especially since what i'm saying is just : "do the same thing, just use different words"	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	well let's look at it. company has 100 btc. it buys "the right to use a boat for 1 year" for 50.	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	what's the value of the company next month ? 50 + whatever it fished or 50 + whatever it fished + 50 * 11 / 12 ?	[22:18]
benkay	now that makes sense	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	so that's the concept.	[22:19]
davout	i guess latter	[22:19]
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davout	yeah, i see where you come from	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	now, i agree this is at least attackable from a "standard accounting" perspective,	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	for a number of reasons. i just don't think they actually work.	[22:20]
davout	i don't know how exactly to express this, but i think that somehow you're trying to get accounting to do something it's not really supposed to	[22:20]
davout	if you paid the hosting fee monthly it wouldn't be an issue at all	[22:21]
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davout	as in, we wouldn't have this debate	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	yeah but the shit is, hosting is this complex fucking industry	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	wherein all sorts of weird constrainsts operate. like, nobody wants used gear. everyone wants to own geaer. nobody wants to pay for anything.	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	if i don't guarantee usage the provider won't open new boxes of gear for me.	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	if i do guarantee usage it makes no sense to pretend im paying monthly, and it actually helps his cash flow a ton to pay him upfront	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	etfc.	[22:23]
davout	that's where the MP aura stops I guess :-)	[22:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1464 @ 0.00082561 = 1.2087 BTC [-]	[22:24]
davout	well, tbh the way you're accounting for it makes much more sense if explained that way	[22:24]
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davout	i may be able to live with it	[22:24]
davout	maybe	[22:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 9 @ 0.00101 = 0.0091 BTC [-]	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	anyway, next month i'll charge domain names	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	these I OWN	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	and they will amortise over...	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	a year.	[22:26]
davout	does one ever own a domain ?	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	well wtf.	[22:26]
davout	XD	[22:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044998 BTC [-]	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	yeah. so you know... accounting gotta meet internet at some point.	[22:26]
davout	word	[22:27]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.019501 BTC [-]	[22:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 39 @ 0.019501 = 0.7605 BTC [-]	[22:27]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.044998 = 0.405 BTC [-]	[22:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.044999 = 0.36 BTC [+]	[22:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7694 @ 0.00082561 = 6.3522 BTC [-]	[22:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 315 @ 0.00082467 = 0.2598 BTC [-]	[22:30]
davout	well, i'm off, ttyl all	[22:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044002 = 0.44 BTC [-]	[22:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.044001 = 0.572 BTC [-]	[22:31]
error4738	:davout Bonne chance !	[22:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044999 = 0.225 BTC [+]	[22:33]
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error4738	;;ticker	[22:33]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 89.10502, Best ask: 89.12999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02497, Last trade: 89.12999, 24 hour volume: 42825.80763141, 24 hour low: 88.75001, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 92.10373	[22:33]
error4738	;;bids 0	[22:33]
gribble	There are currently 26202984 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9748770.74663 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds	[22:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 6 @ 0.049418 = 0.2965 BTC [-]	[22:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.1869 = 0.5607 BTC [-]	[22:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.187 = 0.561 BTC [+]	[22:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.044999 = 0.36 BTC [+]	[22:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.0291 = 0.1455 BTC [-]	[22:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 14 @ 0.029 = 0.406 BTC [-]	[22:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 23 @ 0.019999 = 0.46 BTC [+]	[22:36]
error4738	see u soon 100$, you was a good mate !	[22:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.509999 = 3.06 BTC [+]	[22:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.51 = 5.1 BTC [+]	[22:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.515 = 5.15 BTC [+]	[22:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.517799 BTC [+]	[22:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5178 BTC [+]	[22:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5178 BTC [+]	[22:39]
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furuknap	;;next	[22:42]
gribble	Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.	[22:42]
furuknap	I would bet it still said "expecting retest of 88"	[22:43]
furuknap	Of course, sooner or later that would be true :-)	[22:43]
furuknap	http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1hfyao/100th_having_problems_delivering_pcb_assembly/ <- They're two weeks delayed...	[22:44]
benkay	i have a bet coming due next monday. btc trading above 70. wasn't concerned at the time of bet, am slightly concerned now.	[22:44]
benkay	that said "concerned" is relative, stakes are several rounds of beer.	[22:44]
benkay	i don't gamble like you crazie	[22:44]
benkay	crazies	[22:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P101T] 650 @ 0.64936888 = 422.0898 BTC [+]	[22:45]
furuknap	Who are you calling crazy? HELP, THE BANANAS ARE TRYING TO EAT ME! QUICK! GIVE ME THAT TOILET SEAT!	[22:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 432 @ 0.0444 = 19.1808 BTC [-]	[22:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.505 = 13.515 BTC [-]	[22:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.501 BTC [-]	[22:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [-]	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[22:48]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 91.59311, Best ask: 91.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38689, Last trade: 92.14290, 24 hour volume: 43495.29781796, 24 hour low: 88.75001, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 92.08325	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	!t m ^oix	[22:48]
assbot	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 61.23802783 / 62.69294856 / 114.42277287 (835 shares, 434.58 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)	[22:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63 @ 0.00082595 = 0.052 BTC [+]	[22:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10688 @ 0.00082661 = 8.8348 BTC [+]	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	for srs.	[22:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1911 @ 0.00082698 = 1.5804 BTC [+]	[22:48]
furuknap	I have no idea what you just said, which, I'm sure, is why I don't have an account on MPEx.	[22:50]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000999 = 0.002 BTC [+]	[22:53]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.0011 = 0.0033 BTC [+]	[22:56]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.187 = 0.748 BTC [+]	[23:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044999 = 0.45 BTC [+]	[23:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044999 = 0.225 BTC [+]	[23:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0442 BTC [-]	[23:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 27 @ 0.002348 = 0.0634 BTC [+]	[23:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.044999 = 0.72 BTC [+]	[23:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 229 @ 0.0442 = 10.1218 BTC [-]	[23:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044 BTC [-]	[23:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.045 = 1.08 BTC [+]	[23:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MG] 4727 @ 0.00016875 = 0.7977 BTC [+]	[23:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 90 @ 0.045 = 4.05 BTC [+]	[23:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.044 = 0.176 BTC [-]	[23:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00082467 = 3.9584 BTC [-]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 33 @ 0.002299 = 0.0759 BTC [+]	[23:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.180003 = 1.8 BTC [-]	[23:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.180002 = 0.36 BTC [-]	[23:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]	[23:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.044 = 2.86 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.045 = 4.5 BTC [+]	[23:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 55 @ 0.299999 = 16.4999 BTC [+]	[23:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.044 = 0.22 BTC [-]	[23:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0442 BTC [+]	[23:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.00499 = 0.01 BTC [+]	[23:13]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.187 = 1.87 BTC [+]	[23:15]
*	gesell (~user@p200300454E878501886EB2447A600BFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:17]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.499893 = 13.4997 BTC [-]	[23:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.499897 BTC [+]	[23:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 138 @ 0.0442 = 6.0996 BTC [+]	[23:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04487989 = 0.1346 BTC [+]	[23:20]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.5 = 13.5 BTC [+]	[23:20]
taub_	price :)	[23:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044998 = 0.45 BTC [-]	[23:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.044999 = 0.9 BTC [+]	[23:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.5 = 27 BTC [+]	[23:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [+]	[23:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0444 = 0.1776 BTC [-]	[23:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.008 = 0.024 BTC [+]	[23:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 396 @ 0.0444 = 17.5824 BTC [-]	[23:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082478 = 3.3816 BTC [+]	[23:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10187 @ 0.00082698 = 8.4244 BTC [+]	[23:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00082736 = 2.9785 BTC [+]	[23:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0448799 = 4.488 BTC [+]	[23:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.02998 BTC [+]	[23:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 45 @ 0.04488 = 2.0196 BTC [+]	[23:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 88 @ 0.04488 = 3.9494 BTC [+]	[23:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04488 = 0.4488 BTC [+]	[23:41]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0449 = 0.449 BTC [+]	[23:43]
deadweasel	just removed a brown recluse from my bedroom. i guess that's a win!	[23:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.04498999 = 1.8446 BTC [+]	[23:43]
bitcollapse	hi guys when are the sdice and bbet dividends due	[23:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 900 @ 0.0011 = 0.99 BTC [+]	[23:43]
davout	bitcollapse: have you looked on their respective asset pages ?	[23:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.0449 = 1.796 BTC [-]	[23:44]
bitcollapse	yes it should be today for sdice?	[23:45]
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bitcollapse	ugh, bitcoins exchange infrastructure is collapsing	[23:46]
davout	look again, it seems it has been published	[23:46]
davout	wut?	[23:46]
bitcollapse	alot of exchangers like aurumxchange are out of business	[23:46]
bitcollapse	fastcash4bitcoins	[23:46]
bitcollapse	and bitinstant is now nothing more then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements	[23:47]
davout	bitcollapse: lol	[23:47]
bitcollapse	how come paypal can transmit money and not ask for ID uploads?	[23:47]
davout	you obviously don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about...	[23:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.546 BTC [+]	[23:47]
bitcollapse	explain davout	[23:47]
bitcollapse	bitinstant requires an account now with ID verification	[23:47]
bitcollapse	that just tosses out any bitcoin privacy and makes it worse then a bank	[23:48]
davout	the various laws don't usually give the slightest shit about your privacy	[23:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.044899 = 2.1103 BTC [-]	[23:48]
bitcollapse	davout yes but if a bitcoin adress is linked to an ID	[23:49]
bitcollapse	its permanent public information	[23:49]
davout	yet, as an exchange you have to follow them, unless you want to live a quite painful experience	[23:49]
davout	so what ?	[23:49]
bitcollapse	bitinstant isnt an exchange	[23:49]
bitcollapse	why doesnt paypal require ID documents uploaded?	[23:49]
pigeons	they do	[23:49]
bitcollapse	no they dont you can open one with a credit card or bank account	[23:49]
bitcollapse	but they never ask for ID unless its very business specific	[23:50]
davout	bitcollapse: opening an account != keeping an account open	[23:50]
davout	they do	[23:50]
davout	for a very simple reason	[23:50]
bitcollapse	when?	[23:50]
davout	because the law requires them to	[23:50]
bitcollapse	for my paypal they didnt ask anything	[23:50]
pigeons	when you try to use it	[23:50]
davout	your personal experience can hardly be generalized	[23:50]
bitcollapse	ive been using it for years they just verified me with a automated phone call	[23:50]
pigeons	maybe it takes a year, but they will get to it	[23:50]
bitcollapse	ive never had to submit documents to paypal	[23:50]
davout	maybe your not moving that much	[23:50]
bitcollapse	bitinstant doesnt move much either for personal accounts	[23:51]
bitcollapse	they have low max's yet require absurd ID's	[23:51]
davout	and keep in mind that they indirectly ID you since they get the information from your various payment means	[23:51]
bitcollapse	the point is ID's dont work well with bitcoin because adress's are public knowledge	[23:51]
bitcollapse	nobody can see my paypal activity except paypal	[23:51]
davout	bitcollapse: that's a good one	[23:51]
pigeons	and nsa	[23:51]
bitcollapse	sure and government	[23:51]
bitcollapse	but not everyone	[23:51]
davout	bitcollapse: no offense, but you have no idea of what you're talking about	[23:51]
bitcollapse	bitcoin adress linked to ID is even more dangerous	[23:51]
jcpham	hi	[23:51]
bitcollapse	dabout how dont i?	[23:52]
pigeons	bitcollapse: then don't do it	[23:52]
bitcollapse	the anonymous bitcoin exchange methods are crumbling	[23:52]
bitcollapse	hence the price decline going along with it	[23:52]
pigeons	that isnt suprising to anyone	[23:52]
jcpham	pigeons sent me a copy of his ID for safe keeping	[23:52]
jcpham	total trust	[23:52]
pigeons	my feathers look bad in that picture though	[23:52]
bitcollapse	pigeons i like the concept of bitcoin	[23:53]
bitcollapse	but i dont like having an ID linked to a public adress	[23:53]
pigeons	then dont	[23:53]
bitcollapse	where all transactions can be traced extremely easily	[23:53]
bitcollapse	easier then any bank	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	and bitinstant is now nothing more then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements <<< details ?	[23:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 176 @ 0.0448799 = 7.8989 BTC [-]	[23:53]
pigeons	and its as private as your paypal info, you arent giving that address to anyone but bitinstant	[23:53]
bitcollapse	id ont get why bitcoiners are going along with it	[23:53]
bitcollapse	mircea_popescu: before using bitinstant was easy	[23:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 869 @ 0.04499 = 39.0963 BTC [+]	[23:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 466 @ 0.045 = 20.97 BTC [+]	[23:54]
bitcollapse	you walked into a walmart and filled out a moneygram form	[23:54]
pigeons	mircea_popescu: http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2013/6/30/website-update.html	[23:54]
bitcollapse	now they require an account and all sorts of ID	[23:54]
davout	bitcollapse: open your own exchange, get some experience, then you will understand	[23:54]
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bitcollapse	charlie shrem is a sell out	[23:54]
pigeons	bitcollapse: they are going along with it to stay out of jail	[23:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.044898 = 0.7633 BTC [-]	[23:54]
pigeons	oh why bitcoins sorry	[23:54]
bitcollapse	why? you dont need to show an ID when you are buying walmart goods	[23:54]
pigeons	i thought you said bitinstant	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	"We have temporarily limited transactions in some locations, and we apologize for the inconvenience. "	[23:54]
pigeons	how do you know bitcoiners are going along with it	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	heh. not list the locations. these people just won't fucking learn what open means already	[23:55]
pigeons	maybe bitinstant will go out of business	[23:55]
bitcollapse	bitcoin is not defined as a financial instrument anywhere	[23:55]
pigeons	comon	[23:55]
pigeons	you know thats silly	[23:55]
jcpham	must be fake	[23:55]
peterl	if it quacks like a duck ...	[23:55]
bitcollapse	if i buy electronics at walmart and trade them for drugs does walmart need to ID me everytime i buy them?	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	that'd be because it's not a financial instrument.	[23:55]
peterl	it must be a pidgeon, right?	[23:56]
bitcollapse	exactly mircea_popescu	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	it's game gold.	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	your DOLLARS however, ARE a financial instrument.	[23:56]
bitcollapse	yes	[23:56]
bitcollapse	but i dont get IDed buying stuff with dollars	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	so stop trying to trade that shit for bitcoin and nobody cares about your id anymore.	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	yes, actually, you do.	[23:56]
pigeons	solved	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	this because dollars are shit.	[23:56]
bitcollapse	when mircea?	[23:56]
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mircea_popescu	try getting some cough medicine.	[23:56]
asciilifeform	all this talk of IDs at store counters will seem nostalgically quaint when start needing a working RFID beacon just to pass through public doorways.	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	or a gun or a car	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	or a house or a hotel stay	[23:57]
bitcollapse	mircea_popescu: when i purchase goods in stores nobody records all my ID info	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	or what-ever-the-fuck-else.	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	yes, they do.	[23:57]
pigeons	cameras on the razor blade isle recording who touches it	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	just because you imagine your life currently works a certain way dun make it so.	[23:57]
bitcollapse	nobody asks for an ID when i bought a car only when i get a license plate	[23:57]
pigeons	hahahahha	[23:57]
davout	lol	[23:57]
bitcollapse	i bought cars privately and nobody IDed me	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	the onl;y time they don't ask for your id when you're using dollars	[23:57]
pigeons	dont get me started on trying to buy a car	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	is if they have it already.	[23:57]
davout	bitcollapse: seriously, i give you 6/10, now go away, i was having a good time	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	this is what dollars are.	[23:58]
bitcollapse	mircea_popescu: nobody IDed me buying electronics.	[23:58]
bitcollapse	bitinstant is treating bitcoin as some sort of advanced highly defined/regulated instrument	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform myeah.	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	bitcollapse no dude. buitcoin is treating dollars like the shit they are.	[23:58]
bitcollapse	where are the US laws regarding bitcoin?	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	they didn't use to, on the grounds that maybe they're like bitcoin	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	guess what ? they aren;'t.	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	tada.	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	jesus he just won't get it will he.	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	ITS THE DOLLARS.	[23:59]
bitcollapse	yes i understand	[23:59]
bitcollapse	why arent my gasoline purchases recorded then with an ID	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	there's ~500000000 pages of regulations regarding the dollars.	[23:59]
davout	mircea_popescu: (make it more generic, he'll come back later bitching about EUR exchanges)	[23:59]
asciilifeform	when you use currency minted by an empire, you are buying into its philosophy (if one dare call it that) - like it or not.	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	what, people buy bitcoin for eur now ?!	[23:59]
bitcollapse	mircea_popescu: theres no laws requiring merchants to RECORD ID on EVERY single product.	[23:59]

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