Forum logs for 29 Oct 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in faux brazilian blondes, http://78.media.tumblr.com/f8a31dd975a1f8e414da19768931dc54/tumblr_nkqzor71cX1sfhnpeo1_1280.jpg [00:24]
ben_vulpes: in my remedial binary arithmetic studies recently, i wrote a routine to add a whole ONE!!!1! to an array of bits: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gNPCX/?raw=true [00:35]
ben_vulpes: i think it may even work [00:35]
BingoBoingo: In other escape plans 52 weeks of language classes can be had for 17472 Reals (~5416.32 USd) [01:12]
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-28-oct-2017#2355498 << lolwat. link ?? [04:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 22:44 BingoBoingo: In other researching, apparently exploding security breifcases are available commercially off the shelf [04:09]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730256 << lol with wat? gpg’s aes ?? [04:10]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 22:54 mircea_popescu: encrypt to key, store online, move key. [04:10]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, i was reading the infamous general pacepa - mega-runaway. sharp fella, but really? iraq wmd seekritly vanished by ru spies ? srsly? [04:14]
asciilifeform: the ‘cancer weapon’ on other hand is quite realistic, and for it to not show on any ordinary detector is also realistic, asciilifeform knows very well one possible variant of such a thing [04:16]
asciilifeform: many years ago, as a lab monkey, asciilifeform used (standard, commonplace) tritiated organic miscellany [04:16]
asciilifeform: ceaușescu et al easily could have created , similarly to modern chemotherapeutic items, tritiated (thereby alpha-emitting, mean free path in air ~1cm, in meat - mm ) compounds that travel to $organ of choice [04:18]
asciilifeform: and slowly do the victim in, ‘of natural causes’ . [04:19]
asciilifeform: ( in lab, we used tritiated amino acids for ‘label’ in culture , unremarkable and extremely sharp tool ) [04:20]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pacepa ~= mike hearn. [08:20]
mircea_popescu: and re ceausescu's "cancer weapon", it was pure and simple radithor cleverly "codenamed" "radu". [08:22]
mircea_popescu: contrary to the aspirations of the anachronistic-minded science-fanfic author/consumer, the 1970s enjoyed 1970s tech and 1970s 2nd world shitholes (ie, the soviet bloc) enjoyed 1950s techs as a baseline. or as ceausescu's main tech theft guy said, "they'll sell us yesterday's technology for today's money, but what can you do." [08:23]
mircea_popescu: that aside, sure the tritium-chemotherapy "works". meanwhile you're stuck controlling the intended victim's alimentation for lenghty intervals while an alpha dosimeter can be had for a few hundred. (and works on corpses as well as on foods). [08:27]
mircea_popescu: if they're eating from the palm of your hand thusly, why are you inept enough to need to kill them. [08:28]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in fake tits, http://78.media.tumblr.com/8f00dcc0f5c0a0e413297c5216920fb0/tumblr_ngm3tlyRYl1s9gtmoo1_1280.jpg [08:29]
shinohai: "Hmm ee see to be all out of fake tits, lemme just shove these grapefruits in there....perfect! [08:35]
mircea_popescu: tis. [08:36]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730287 << spy chief would have to be a downs case to ‘stealthily’ poison a d00d with a gamma emitter, screamingly hot from across a room [09:18]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 12:22 mircea_popescu: and re ceausescu's "cancer weapon", it was pure and simple radithor cleverly "codenamed" "radu". [09:18]
mircea_popescu: and this ever prevented anyone ? [09:18]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730289 << nope. you feed him a lipid-soluble, it sticks around for years [09:19]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 12:27 mircea_popescu: that aside, sure the tritium-chemotherapy "works". meanwhile you're stuck controlling the intended victim's alimentation for lenghty intervals while an alpha dosimeter can be had for a few hundred. (and works on corpses as well as on foods). [09:19]
mircea_popescu: i seem to recall ricin-dipped pellets shot out of umbrellas, at the high point of comedy [09:19]
asciilifeform: ricin is a pretty good poison, only detected because some remained in the bullet [09:19]
mircea_popescu: "screamingly obvious across the room" etc. [09:20]
asciilifeform: re dosimeter, see the mean free path item again, you need to put the carcass through a blender for this. [09:21]
mircea_popescu: anyway, if your "i just pulled this out of my ass" lipotherapy worked people would get chemotherapy plasters like whores get impgregnabilicy / tobacco quitting patches. [09:21]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i own a blender. [09:21]
mircea_popescu: but no, you'd spread over a surface. [09:21]
mircea_popescu: you know, like histopathology worked since 1800s. [09:21]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider how doping test picks up pot-smoking (chix in particular) months after the fact [09:22]
asciilifeform: or the thread re folx losing usa fat being sickened by the released liposoluble crud [09:23]
mircea_popescu: i am not debating liposolubility as a concept. i am pointing out to you that a) you've no basis for your claim that random item stolen from textbook is effectual here and b) that there's good reason to believe otherwise. [09:23]
asciilifeform: i dispute b [09:23]
mircea_popescu: aite, so you dispute. [09:23]
asciilifeform: ‘stolen from textbook’ lol [09:24]
mircea_popescu: well ? [09:24]
asciilifeform: ever radiolabel with own hands ? [09:24]
mircea_popescu: this is known from legal practice, man comes to argue thing he has read in the law. meanwhile courts, in their attempt to emulate life, work by legal practice not by legal textbook. [09:24]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've also never driven a car with my own hands. [09:25]
asciilifeform: we’re talking 1950s tech, mircea_popescu . stalin’s mairanovsky prolly had it. [09:25]
asciilifeform: not death ray, no. [09:25]
mircea_popescu: we're talking specifically anachronistic-minded science-fanfic. [09:25]
mircea_popescu: yes, COULD have had it. as it happens, did not have. [09:25]
asciilifeform: and you conclude this based on what? [09:26]
mircea_popescu: ming dinasty could have had apache helicopter, what. [09:26]
asciilifeform: not comparable. [09:26]
mircea_popescu: well, an exageration, but the point remains. alien can always land and go "hey, why don't you knot your shoes LIKE THIS ?" "fuck, it never occured." "idiots." [09:26]
asciilifeform: again no mega-tech here, radiolabeling was ordinary enough laboratory tech in late ‘50s. [09:27]
mircea_popescu: the problem in theory of knowledge / history of science is not existence but comprehension. [09:27]
mircea_popescu: all sorts of things existed quietly for varying lengths of time. [09:28]
asciilifeform: i have nfi whether it was ~fired~ in the field, separate q [09:28]
mircea_popescu: deeper q : we seem to have good reason to believe no soldier knew what the strange baton in his backpack was supposed to be/do. [09:28]
mircea_popescu: ie, let alone fired in field -- nobody knew the latch is a trigger, either. [09:29]
asciilifeform: i also admit that i dun see the appeal of a bullet that takes decade to plug a d00d [09:29]
asciilifeform: but possibly i’m thick [09:30]
mircea_popescu: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730290 [09:30]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 12:28 mircea_popescu: if they're eating from the palm of your hand thusly, why are you inept enough to need to kill them. [09:30]
asciilifeform: 2-3y maybe useful [09:30]
asciilifeform: if you can guarantee it with 1 dose [09:31]
mircea_popescu: you recall the wankery i took out of luminous in its ascension towards superluminous, with the "toxic blood" that then got retconned into "platonic paramour for some reason got the same brand so i can keep hoping because she cares about this but there's no cuckolding undertone here" ? [09:31]
asciilifeform: aa [09:31]
mircea_popescu: it was a bowl of spaghetti very specific to a sort of mind, the math grad student let's say. [09:31]
asciilifeform: it was silly yea [09:32]
mircea_popescu: there's a reason my rewrite doesn't feel like rolling through crusty sheets permeated by bum scent. [09:32]
asciilifeform: ‘atomic bullet’ ! [09:32]
mircea_popescu: and that reason is exactly excision of this kind of nonsense, as there exemplified. [09:32]
asciilifeform: i disagree that the two are in any way similar. [09:33]
mircea_popescu: in short, if the math grad students who didn't get tenure ever take over a country, ima be careful about liposoluble tritium tissue markers when visiting. [09:33]
asciilifeform: lol [09:33]
mircea_popescu: but meanwhile, there's cosubstantial problems preventing BOTH lobes of that conditional. [09:34]
asciilifeform: i’d buy a ‘they’ll whack you with a hammer in alley, not with fancy scoped rifle firing poisoned dart’ angle [09:34]
mircea_popescu: overfancy. [09:35]
mircea_popescu: there's an all-important difference between fancy and overfancy. [09:35]
asciilifeform: but there are cases where a 2-3y poison would make sense, and sov chronicles are replete with insinuations that at least 1 such, existed [09:35]
mircea_popescu: and it was radithor. that's where ceausescu got his. [09:36]
asciilifeform: any source other than herr pacepa for this detail ? [09:36]
mircea_popescu: i thought you thought him credible a minute earlier ? [09:37]
asciilifeform: ( i’ll believe him, from lack of whom else ) [09:37]
mircea_popescu: "general knowledge of they in the know" is the best i can do for sourcing. how do you know "how things were" ? [09:37]
mircea_popescu: there's no credible source as to how the whole nixon impeachment thing was entirely over people pissed off at vietnam, either. [09:38]
asciilifeform: i’ll buy. [09:38]
mircea_popescu: but i'm not about to sit here and believe the washington post matters politically or some such nonsense, am i. [09:38]
asciilifeform: heh [09:39]
* asciilifeform bbl, bucharest streets [09:40]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/1950s-cretinetti-i-soliti-ignoti-il-vedovo/ << Trilema - 1950s Cretinetti : I soliti ignoti & Il vedovo [10:47]
ben_vulpes: http://gcaptain.com/inmarsat-shipboard-communication-platform-found-vulnerable-to-hacking/ "Inmarsat has since discontinued the 8.0 version of the platform and has recommended that customers revert back to AmosConnect 7.0 or switch to an email solution from one of their approved partners...this vulnerability would have been very difficult to exploit as it would require direct access to the shipboard PC that [12:42]
ben_vulpes: ran the AC8 email client...which would require an intruder to gain access to the ship and then to the computer." the computer which i'm just going to guess here is running windows. [12:42]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, holyfuq the variety of sov and nazi junk at bucharest fleamarket [13:05]
BingoBoingo: Why does it have to be junk? Just because it is soviet and nazi? [13:05]
asciilifeform: зенит, киев , etc cameras , medals ( sov, commie ro, 3 germanies ), bayonets, hellknows what else [13:06]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: because trinkets mostly [13:06]
BingoBoingo: trinkets still make decent shrapnel [13:07]
asciilifeform: also some 70+ y.o. cigars, incl. a half-metre long one [13:07]
asciilifeform: iron cross from both world wars [13:08]
asciilifeform: ( asking price ~1 benjie , asciilifeform decided ‘artful faek’ ) [13:08]
asciilifeform: asciilifeform does not collect medals. though his own familymedals, pretty massive box, all ended up with collectors , helped pay for plane tickets in ‘92 [13:10]
asciilifeform: also i regret to inform that there are beggars and hobos in bucharest. the usual ones, and even some female ‘baba yaga’ looking specimens [13:11]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu’s ‘legal to beat bums’ item is clearly failing to catch mice, so to speak, here. [13:12]
asciilifeform: ( though apparently worked great in timis ) [13:12]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, Bucharest is on its own first of all for size, but not only that [13:25]
diana_coman: I have yet to see in any other Romanian town the sort of squalor I saw in Bucharest [13:26]
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/10/29/unearthing-beauty-the-lower-rungs-of-the-art-patrons-ladder-and-a-newfound-appreciation-of-time/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Unearthing beauty, the lower rungs of the art patrons ladder, and a newfound appreciation of time. [13:28]
* BingoBoingo about to reread Hong Kong material. [13:42]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: almost reminds me of chicago [13:47]
asciilifeform: ( i’d still rather live here than anywhere i’ve been in usa tho.. ) [13:47]
diana_coman: iirc the "old centre" has been renovated during past few years and it looked ok, but it's relatively small many of the relics of former glory have either been demolished long time ago or otherwise are left to crumble [13:52]
asciilifeform: the national bank has a gigantic glass window on the ground in front of it, into what looks like archaeological dig, deep catacomb underneath it [13:56]
diana_coman: ah, yes, several rounds of catacombs as it were the oldest should be indeed in the "old centre"-cismigiu park - mitropolie area but then others leading further out as well not very much is made public on them though [14:09]
diana_coman: capital was moved to Bucharest precisely because it was in the middle of the plains and easily accessible /plundered + not far on horseback from across Danube so escape routes & hiding places make sense [14:13]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730364 << i had direct access to that computer aboard eg argentina's buquebus . [15:04]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 16:42 ben_vulpes: ran the AC8 email client...which would require an intruder to gain access to the ship and then to the computer." the computer which i'm just going to guess here is running windows. [15:04]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730367 << zenit is to this day the badge of the retarded hipster whore. [15:05]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 17:06 asciilifeform: зенит, киев , etc cameras , medals ( sov, commie ro, 3 germanies ), bayonets, hellknows what else [15:05]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730372 << conceivable it's genuine hard to tell without item. [15:05]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 17:08 asciilifeform: ( asking price ~1 benjie , asciilifeform decided ‘artful faek’ ) [15:05]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730389 << srsly, someone still uses?! asciilifeform’s father used, in ‘80s. then asciilifeform used much laters, in usa, thing was quite gnarly, exponometer neverworked, demanded extinct sovbattery [17:00]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 19:05 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730367 << zenit is to this day the badge of the retarded hipster whore. [17:00]
asciilifeform: anybody who can work that thing in earnest, can’t be too deeply touched, is at least ‘functioning’ tard. [17:02]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730383 << asciilifeform just returned from ~15km grunt through bucharest quite the ‘neuromancer’ town [17:04]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 17:52 diana_coman: iirc the "old centre" has been renovated during past few years and it looked ok, but it's relatively small many of the relics of former glory have either been demolished long time ago or otherwise are left to crumble [17:04]
asciilifeform: i suspect BingoBoingo would fall in luvv withit [17:05]
asciilifeform: picture, e.g, d00d in a bathrobe, in front of mercedes, hood popped, in one hand flashlight , in other - meat cleaver [17:06]
asciilifeform: factory next block with forest growing through roof [17:06]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730387 << bus with sat terminal ?! [17:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 19:04 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730364 << i had direct access to that computer aboard eg argentina's buquebus . [17:09]
asciilifeform: gurlz here, btw, still night and day vs usa, it is not even a fair fight, like comparing usa to africa [17:12]
asciilifeform: stupendous qty of monuments to ‘victims of the mineriads’ ( see mp’s description of what it was, in logz somewhere ) [17:17]
davout: asciilifeform: what's a zenit? [17:22]
asciilifeform: !~google фотоаппарат зенит [17:36]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Зенит ( фотоаппарат ) — Википедия: <https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D0%2597%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582_(%25D1%2584%25D0%25BE%25D1%2582%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BF%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B0%25D1%2580%25D0%25B0%25D1%2582)> Zenit ( camera ) - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenit_(camera)> Зенит (фотоаппаратура) — Википедия: (1 more message) [17:36]
asciilifeform: davout: subj ^^ [17:36]
asciilifeform: ancient sov slr camera. [17:37]
davout: interesting 'photosniper' variant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenit_(camera)#/media/File:Photosniper_-_assembled.jpg [17:42]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have to say description of bucharest does make Romania sound more interesting [18:28]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gurlz here, btw, still night and day vs usa, it is not even a fair fight, like comparing usa to africa << On the wife visa shops Romania puts out a lot of trannies and genderconfuseds compared to say Brazil and Former British British China [18:31]
* BingoBoingo uses OKC with MP god mode cheats to scout foreign geographies [18:33]
BingoBoingo: If nothing else, helps with lanuage practice [18:36]
* BingoBoingo found a datacenter in Peru, they are getting a solicitation. [21:39]
BingoBoingo: Hopefully more Brazilian lawyers will start talking this week, but the impression is starting to grow that Brazil's goverment bleeds businesses Chicago style. Death by a thousand fees. [21:59]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730395 << no, that's what they like about it, that nobody can work it therefore making art "fair". [22:00]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 21:02 asciilifeform: anybody who can work that thing in earnest, can’t be too deeply touched, is at least ‘functioning’ tard. [22:00]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730401 << buquebus is this ferry service between montevideo and buenos aires. they use really large boats, can comfortably take your car with etc. pretty shitty service though. [22:02]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 21:09 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730387 << bus with sat terminal ?! [22:02]
BingoBoingo: I remember that post! [22:03]
mircea_popescu: 8kton / 6 cat diesels worth 34mw. pretty decent item, per se. sadly, argentines. [22:03]
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2014/mps-guide-to-boat-travel-from-upon-the-very-boat-in-question/ [22:04]
mircea_popescu: ah, that's actually a different boat iirc. [22:04]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the item is say 1/6 battleship. has satlink onboard. [22:05]
BingoBoingo: That's a pretty big river cruiser [22:06]
mircea_popescu: well it's like the world's largest estuary. [22:06]
BingoBoingo: Mississippi doesn't get boats close to that big until south of the Ohio river confluence [22:06]
mircea_popescu: well it's also not 80 miles across is itn ow. [22:08]
BingoBoingo: Yeah, the boats go up/down river instead of across [22:08]
BingoBoingo: And the birds theive their cargo [22:08]
mircea_popescu: aha, [22:08]
BingoBoingo: North of Missouri river confluence Mississippi only gets wimp boats, Missouri confluence to Ohio confluence boats get respectable sized, South of Ohio confluence you get barge trains longer than the towns they pass with pushboat sized like the vaguely riverboat shaped stationary casinos moored upriver [22:11]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730399 << ahahahaha! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hfvk4CoJy0 [22:12]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 21:06 asciilifeform: picture, e.g, d00d in a bathrobe, in front of mercedes, hood popped, in one hand flashlight , in other - meat cleaver [22:12]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730413 << bwahaha. [22:14]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 22:33 BingoBoingo uses OKC with MP god mode cheats to scout foreign geographies [22:14]
BingoBoingo: How else does one practice languages before going to areas where X-language-ophones can be seduced in the wild [22:15]
BingoBoingo: In brazil you can start a lot of conversations with "Oi, tudo bem? Please tell me you don't get winter over there" [22:17]
BingoBoingo: And from there it's a matter of screening the population for indicators of humanity [22:18]
* BingoBoingo hoping for good news outta Peru. Maybe it splits the middle of Hong Kong with cheap compliance and bloody expense for presence and Brazil which would offer less bleeding on presence but apparently more bleeding on existing as business. [22:47]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [23:17]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 6108.0, vol: 16879.13666940 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 6129.0, vol: 64313.78523308 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 6115.5, vol: 4468.93856749 | Volume-weighted last average: 6124.15779206 [23:17]
BingoBoingo: OMG back to crashing! [23:17]
BingoBoingo: !!up wyatt06 [23:38]
deedbot: wyatt06 voiced for 30 minutes. [23:38]
BingoBoingo: And in other bad touches: "Actor Anthony Rapp has come forward with allegations that Kevin Spacey made a sexual advance toward him when he was 14 years old, BuzzFeed reports." [23:54]
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