Forum logs for 28 Jun 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-27-jun-2017#2301054 << RunMoarWinblowz [00:10]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 03:14 sina: "If you sign malware with a fake self-signed Microsoft certificate, several major AV's on VirusTotal will ignore it" [00:10]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/879D62B318A6A49281F9402E6B11526A4FFA8C93C1731EF9C504069D427CF434 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1381...2279 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '68.231.181.46 (ssh-rsa key from 68.231.181.46 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (ip68-231-181-46.tc.ph.cox.net. US AZ) [00:11]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/879D62B318A6A49281F9402E6B11526A4FFA8C93C1731EF9C504069D427CF434 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1464...7843 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '68.231.181.46 (ssh-rsa key from 68.231.181.46 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (ip68-231-181-46.tc.ph.cox.net. US AZ) [00:11]
PeterL: do antiviruses count as something that is promistronic? [00:12]
mircea_popescu: certainly. [00:14]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8D410EBED0F258765B617AA394D7D7BD3CC1D378783527DF7F6CF74D58DF7395 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1549...0947 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '66.111.32.94 (ssh-rsa key from 66.111.32.94 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (66-111-32-94.static.sagonet.net. US FL) [00:56]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8D410EBED0F258765B617AA394D7D7BD3CC1D378783527DF7F6CF74D58DF7395 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1572...4967 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '66.111.32.94 (ssh-rsa key from 66.111.32.94 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (66-111-32-94.static.sagonet.net. US FL) [00:56]
PeterL: from old thread: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-11#1641818 << where I work, we do stuff in excel, and every spreadsheet gets printed along with a copy of the formula view and these go together through a data audit [01:02]
a111: Logged on 2017-04-11 00:22 asciilifeform: when whole thing is excel -- the 60 y.o. buffett at the top, theoretically understands the flow. [01:02]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6308E9FD2A84490D6072FDA12D2BF1AE6EFD6ACD5358ADCAE26E167350FC227D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1442...8033 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '90.190.121.202 (ssh-rsa key from 90.190.121.202 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (202.121.190.90.sta.estpak.ee. EE) [01:14]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6308E9FD2A84490D6072FDA12D2BF1AE6EFD6ACD5358ADCAE26E167350FC227D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1782...9023 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '90.190.121.202 (ssh-rsa key from 90.190.121.202 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (202.121.190.90.sta.estpak.ee. EE) [01:14]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3D70714D7ABCF06D4A82734399F94130FDEAB3EA5E8655CC253329D340E7FC6A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1600...1179 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '185.87.180.236 (ssh-rsa key from 185.87.180.236 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown IR) [01:32]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3D70714D7ABCF06D4A82734399F94130FDEAB3EA5E8655CC253329D340E7FC6A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1763...1999 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '185.87.180.236 (ssh-rsa key from 185.87.180.236 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown IR) [01:32]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/396A5B41867A1256E75686B4951842D8943C3C2FC494F34BB71BCB37436417C1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1765...1089 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.52.249.158 (ssh-rsa key from 80.52.249.158 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (gyr158.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL WP) [01:42]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/396A5B41867A1256E75686B4951842D8943C3C2FC494F34BB71BCB37436417C1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1780...1059 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.52.249.158 (ssh-rsa key from 80.52.249.158 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (gyr158.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL WP) [01:42]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker F.DERP [02:01]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a valid (1 more message) [02:01]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all --currency birds [02:04]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: 'birds' is not a valid currency code. [02:04]
sina: alrighty! [05:11]
sina: thanks to clarification from mircea_popescu Framedragger and asciilifeform I have refactored for statelessness, which led to a significant amount of unnecessary code being deleted! [05:12]
sina: currently only "standard" messages are supported [05:12]
sina: but all traffic is sent as RSA payloads with nothing at all in plaintext ever [05:13]
sina: everything now stateless [05:13]
sina: FWIW, what I have now is also nothing like the spec on trilema.com :P [05:14]
sina: lol https://archive.fo/rtW5P "Federal Reserve on bubble watch, but not worried yet" [05:39]
jurov: asciilifeform: didja look into sewing machine pedals, btw? they seem to be designed solidly, for all-day use [07:23]
asciilifeform: jurov: i did, same problem [08:53]
asciilifeform: sewing machine ( and other power tool ) trigger pedals, if you think about it, indeed sometimes are used 'all day', but very different pattern from hypothetical keyboardpedal. they do long strokes. [08:58]
asciilifeform: so the resting position thing does not so much matter to the sewing folx [08:59]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/iSqey [09:13]
asciilifeform: 'On June 22, 2017, CNN.com published a story connecting Anthony Scaramucci with investigations into the Russian Direct Investment Fund. That story did not meet CNN's editorial standards and has been retracted. Links to the story have been disabled. CNN apologizes to Mr. Scaramucci.' [09:14]
asciilifeform: apparently in usg also there are 'untouchable' folx. [09:14]
asciilifeform: s is a hedge fund d00d. [09:15]
asciilifeform: ( recently appointed minister of something or other ) [09:16]
sina: oh yeah saw this on twitter thought tmsr would be amused/interested [09:17]
sina: "It’s not crazy for OpenSSL to redesign and simplify its CSPRNG. It is silly to make it MORE complicated." from tptacek [09:17]
sina: linking to this PR https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/3758 [09:17]
shinohai: Good morning sina, in case you need to confess thy sins http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/confession.jpeg [09:46]
sina: evenin shinohai! [09:56]
sina: I prefer atheists myself [09:56]
sina: or at least those that have been cast from the church in disgrace! :P [09:57]
shinohai: I can assure you that pic isn't sanctioned by the vatican at all [09:59]
mod6: mornin' [10:11]
sina: mornin mod6 [10:11]
mod6: been havin fun workin on gossip? [10:12]
sina: indeed [10:17]
sina: I was thinking about the latest iteration which is much simpler, I think I might try and convert the TCP bit to UDP tomorrow [10:18]
mod6: cool! [10:26]
sina: hows trb stuff comin along [10:28]
sina: mod6: haha I just remembered I was reading logs yesterday and found one line where you said you don't like python :P [10:28]
mod6: It's goin, been doing some testing on a experimental vpatch here as of late. [10:29]
mod6: (to update the makefiles. http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/trb_tickets.html#36) [10:30]
mod6: sina: naw, don't like python. [10:30]
sina: it made me think about how I pretty much default to it for most problems above the complexity threshold of single line bash things [10:32]
mod6: werd. [10:33]
sina: I do think it makes a very good prototyping tool [10:33]
sina: but do prefer strongly typed langs after knocking something together [10:33]
mod6: ya, for sure. [10:34]
sina: I see here everyone seems to know/use lisp and it's a lang I have almost 0 exposure to [10:34]
mod6: python got me with its for loop else case. [10:34]
asciilifeform: sina: garbagecollected language on pc hardware is unsuitable for crypto [10:35]
mod6: i'm a lisp n00b. [10:35]
mod6: i did start getting into scheme last year though. [10:35]
mod6: i don't use emacs or clisp or anything like that. [10:35]
sina: asciilifeform: sure that is understood as general principle, it's unsuitable for really anything low level [10:35]
sina: mod6: pls clarify "for loop else case"? [10:36]
asciilifeform: sina: this is quite mistaken. strictly for crypto. [10:36]
asciilifeform: because - again - nonconstant time and space. [10:36]
sina: yah [10:36]
sina: I only learned recently that python was created for use on Amoeba OS [10:37]
asciilifeform: soooo asciilifeform was taking a morning walk and saw a sight straight out of a mircea_popescu article. teenage chick standing in doorway, her mother (?) packing something into car, in front yard. chick then lifts her shirt and reveals naked cunt, and smiles. mother goes apeshit, screaming in, i think, portuguese, even now, i can almost hear it through open window. [10:38]
sina: you made a friend! [10:39]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu oughta send his ufo over and pick up his 'candidate' [10:39]
asciilifeform: lol [10:39]
mod6: sina: there's a snippet of its use in asciilifeform's V, detailed in ben_vulpes's blog: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system [10:40]
mod6: asciilifeform: you [10:40]
asciilifeform: waiwat mod6 [10:40]
mod6: 've had a splendid morning [10:41]
asciilifeform: certainly a lulzgem, to see creatures step out of the pages of mircea_popescu and into meat [10:41]
mod6: asciilifeform: for loop, with else case. [10:41]
mod6: it got me, way back in the day. [10:42]
asciilifeform: aah yes pythonism [10:42]
mod6: anyway, that was the only thing really with python. most of it seems fine. [10:43]
mod6: *shrug* [10:44]
sina: this is a good read http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861 [10:46]
mod6: mornin'! [10:48]
mircea_popescu: heya [10:49]
sina: mircea_popescu: mornin. I rejigged the gossipthing. I think what I have now reflects more closely what was discussed earlier. however I also think the spec vastly differs so may be worthwhile adding a disclaimer to the existing one or writing an entirely new one [10:56]
sina: anyhoos, past by bedtime, good evenin [10:57]
mircea_popescu: sina : that's how this stuff goes, and wehy someone biting bullet and writing an impl, even if he writes it in php, is worth it. was deliberately demonstrated with the fabulous hash function, and generally. [10:58]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675863 << W.O.R.D. [11:29]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 09:12 sina: thanks to clarification from mircea_popescu Framedragger and asciilifeform I have refactored for statelessness, which led to a significant amount of unnecessary code being deleted! [11:29]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675869 <<< this is not a bad idea on the face, get an old singer or w/e. i might've even suggested it way back when. they do have a lot of inertia thop [11:30]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 11:23 jurov: asciilifeform: didja look into sewing machine pedals, btw? they seem to be designed solidly, for all-day use [11:30]
asciilifeform: i have not only, believe, a sewing machine here, but other power tools actuated with pedals. but see the thread. [11:34]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675902 << use the slut that's what she's there for. [11:40]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 14:34 sina: I see here everyone seems to know/use lisp and it's a lang I have almost 0 exposure to [11:40]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675914 << and you didn't stop ?! [11:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 14:38 asciilifeform: soooo asciilifeform was taking a morning walk and saw a sight straight out of a mircea_popescu article. teenage chick standing in doorway, her mother (?) packing something into car, in front yard. chick then lifts her shirt and reveals naked cunt, and smiles. mother goes apeshit, screaming in, i think, portuguese, even now, i can almost hear it through open window. [11:43]
asciilifeform: lol, see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-23#1674130 etc. [11:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 18:15 asciilifeform: js-of-mp: because the wrongmusic plays not at the bar, but permanently on her face.. [11:43]
mircea_popescu: she was ugly ? [11:44]
asciilifeform: to asciilifeform's lights [11:44]
asciilifeform: but i suspect mircea_popescu would have liked. brazil. [11:44]
mircea_popescu: let me explain to you how the duty of fucking works, because you're perhaps unaware. [11:45]
mircea_popescu: so, the young woman wants to individuate, gives her cunt to male, old woman / mother goes apeshit, male protects cuntlet from her mother. this is how it goes. [11:45]
* asciilifeform pictures a 'партия сказала надо -- комсомол ответил: есть!' [11:45]
mircea_popescu: you can't simply walk away / pretend it's not your problem. it is your problem. [11:45]
asciilifeform: it is?! [11:45]
mircea_popescu: yes. [11:46]
asciilifeform: the surprising/memorable thing was the apeshit mother [11:46]
asciilifeform: what's the mechanism there [11:46]
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, old women. who the fuck understands the mechanism of their trying to ruin the world. [11:46]
mircea_popescu: pantsuit means "incomprehensible evil" and no more. [11:46]
asciilifeform: the duty of bacteriologist is to comprehend the 'incomprehensible plague' etc [11:47]
asciilifeform: so might be worth digging. [11:47]
mircea_popescu: there's no duty of the bacteriologist. [11:47]
mircea_popescu: the charge of the bacteriologist may well be that, but entirely different item, a charge. [11:48]
asciilifeform: hm. [11:48]
mircea_popescu: this is the important point here : that you're not attracted to the daugther's cunt. god knows there is naught more abundant on this earth. BUT you are to repress the mother into political irrelevancy. [11:49]
mircea_popescu: that, you must do. [11:50]
asciilifeform: describe, for education, how mircea_popescu goes about doing this. [11:50]
mircea_popescu: i'll say this much : that never in my history, with ANY woman, was it the case the mother didn't go some variant of apeshit and i repressed her into irrelevancy. [11:50]
mircea_popescu: even with women that were orphans, or didn't talk to their mothers in years. [11:51]
mircea_popescu: how, specifically, it goes varies by case. very often, at least in my youth, it was "that mp, he's such a great guy, not like the other vagabonds you keep bringing home!!1". ie, they self-repressed. [11:51]
asciilifeform: sometimes the simulated devil running in chick's head is the father, not mother [11:52]
mircea_popescu: which is very patently there, they doin't know it, but biology dun care. [11:52]
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform's pet's, for instance ) [11:52]
mircea_popescu: at the other extreme, of course, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580129 [11:52]
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:44 mircea_popescu: ~if i am~ a drug dealer and i burn down your house, you'll what ? file a police report ? go on the local news network with a teary eyed "no one could have predicted that if i get pissy with people who break the law for a living i might end up with a burned down house" ? [11:52]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, plenty of kids today suckle two mothers as it were. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: but in any case : the socialist rot starts with permitting mothers to go apeshit near their daughter's bare cunt. the swamp drain starts there. [11:56]
mircea_popescu: it's the whole through which "the world doth not belong to you" goes into pantsuit skull. [11:56]
mircea_popescu: the hole* lmao [11:57]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675879 << ftr tptacek is the infamous 'USE /DEV/URANDOM !!' d00d [12:08]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 13:17 sina: "It’s not crazy for OpenSSL to redesign and simplify its CSPRNG. It is silly to make it MORE complicated." from tptacek [12:08]
asciilifeform: beloved sage ideologue of the schneierism komyoonity, author of gems like https://archive.is/ootJi [12:09]
asciilifeform: !#s tptacek [12:10]
a111: 14 results for "tptacek", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tptacek [12:10]
asciilifeform: see also esp. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523233 . [12:10]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:54 asciilifeform: all i solidly know of the tptacek fella is his reaction to phuctor. [12:10]
mircea_popescu: this "arguing in the general for opposite particulars" byzantine "wisdom" ie stupidtity is just about all us by mass now [12:11]
asciilifeform: aha, 'what shall it be, gavincoin or hearncoin' [12:11]
mircea_popescu: opposite i mean to the general. like "making rng more complex is silly -- here, use tyhis broken one" [12:12]
mircea_popescu: bitch, that "silly" does not map on your "use this broken one" [12:12]
asciilifeform: or even to promote the notion that openssl has whatever kind of future. [12:12]
mircea_popescu: "oh, but the only reason i even discuss that generazl point is to try and sell you cheetos" [12:12]
asciilifeform: 'we are talking about it, THEREFORE RELEVANT!1' etc [12:12]
mircea_popescu: yeah lolz. "this is what is important TO US" [12:13]
* asciilifeform is quite looking forward to the frenzied butthurtz of the shitlibs folx when 'p' is released. [12:33]
asciilifeform: 'Sources need to be statistically assessed. The quality of the entropy being produced needs to be estimated so that enough can be released to properly seed the RNG. The dieharder and TESTU01 suites are good but they both require prohibitively large amounts of random data to operate. NIST's SP800-90B tests seem to be statistically sound and have manageable data requirements....' << didjaknow! [12:43]
mircea_popescu: lel [12:43]
mircea_popescu: see, what do you want dirigible for. alreadfy got one, looking down through telescope at teh stone age folk [12:43]
mircea_popescu: "showers require prohibitive amounts of mule-carried water to operate" [12:44]
asciilifeform: they sure do!111 [12:44]
mircea_popescu: ikr ? [12:44]
asciilifeform: use /dev/fauxwater [12:44]
mircea_popescu: it's almost just as good, and it smells like roses a donkey shat on [12:44]
asciilifeform: hey, it's a hose from the stable's piss trough -- but at least it doesn't block !! [12:45]
asciilifeform: all quality hokum has a measure of fact mixed in : e.g. 'dieharder' is in fact extraordinarily 'hungry' [12:48]
asciilifeform: but not unusably . [12:48]
mircea_popescu: not that i've seen [12:48]
mircea_popescu: our problems is its cycling not its hunger [12:48]
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660237 << see also ) [12:49]
a111: Logged on 2017-05-23 01:06 asciilifeform: ( the grade outputted by the 'hungrier' tests appears to be in direct proportion to sample size, and very little else and FG, /dev/urandom, various fashionable prng, intel's mysterymeatrng, and several others, all exhibit same effect, 100% pass begins somewhere b/w 1-3GB sample size. ) [12:49]
asciilifeform: well yes, it cycles, because 'hungry' [12:49]
mircea_popescu: but io got food [12:49]
asciilifeform: author apparently considered 'p value too low unless TB of input' or whatnot [12:49]
mircea_popescu: not unreasonable. let fg run for a while [12:50]
asciilifeform: and would not reply to asciilifeform's or other (iirc BingoBoingo ) attempts to find why [12:50]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i got one here with 16G and counting [12:50]
mircea_popescu: eh, TB ? [12:50]
asciilifeform: yes! [12:50]
mircea_popescu: i read gb. [12:50]
asciilifeform: some tests still read 'rewound 15 times' [12:50]
mircea_popescu: well running 1mn times over 1mb is not "bettering" the mb [12:50]
mircea_popescu: elementarily. [12:51]
asciilifeform: as i understand it was a statistical ('p value') demand by the author. [12:51]
mircea_popescu: yes but then he implements rewinds ? [12:52]
asciilifeform: aaaha. [12:52]
asciilifeform: and i did ask 'why?!!!' [12:52]
asciilifeform: 0 reply. [12:52]
mircea_popescu: fucking stupid camp. there's a guarantee real random stream will vary from 01010101 by some count. [12:52]
mircea_popescu: then that becomes a pattern when you reuse it [12:52]
asciilifeform: the notion of making a statistical claim about a doubled-tripled-15upled up string, is ????????. [12:53]
asciilifeform: 'cannot rightfully apprehend the confusion of ideas that would lead to such...' (tm)(r)(babbage) [12:53]
mircea_popescu: p-value worship, as such, numerically. i betcha if i told him i have a dentistry certificate he'd be impressed. [12:54]
asciilifeform: it is in this case specifically cargocultism, rather than application [12:54]
asciilifeform: i could live with 'too few bits? yer stuck with lower P, and oh here i'll print the P' [12:54]
asciilifeform: but instead we get... rewinds. [12:55]
mircea_popescu: bcause nobody can ever be told they'\re not fucking good enough omfgbbq [12:55]
asciilifeform: well no, not so simple, dh is happy to print 'weak' or 'fail' that resulted from... IT WRAPPING THE STRING [12:55]
mircea_popescu: yes. no child left behind always means "the kids you really like getting procusted" [12:56]
asciilifeform: ( try running dh on, say, a kByte of anything whatsoever ) [12:56]
mircea_popescu: !~google procust's bed [12:57]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Procrustean bed | Define Procrustean bed at Dictionary.com: <http://www.dictionary.com/browse/procrustean-bed> Procrustean bed | Define Procrustean bed at Dictionary.com: <http://www.dictionary.com/browse/procrustean-bed> Encyclopedia of Greek Mythology: Procrustes - Mythweb: <http://www.mythweb.com/encyc/entries/procrustes.html> [12:57]
asciilifeform: !#s procrusted [12:57]
a111: 2 results for "procrusted", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=procrusted [12:57]
asciilifeform: !#s procrusting [12:57]
a111: 1 result for "procrusting", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=procrusting [12:57]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is why i put it in [12:57]
asciilifeform: further lulz from recent fishwrap, https://archive.is/37eB9 >> 'Venezuelan police helicopter strafed the Supreme Court and a government ministry on Tuesday...' [12:58]
mircea_popescu: did it fall ? [12:58]
asciilifeform: 'no reports of injuries' [12:58]
asciilifeform: mega-marksmanship [12:58]
mircea_popescu: you ever been in one odf those ? they're ~useless for aiming [12:59]
asciilifeform: i had nfi there were any place to even fit a barrel on these [12:59]
asciilifeform: must have fired out of window [12:59]
mircea_popescu: i was thinking one of the military ones. [12:59]
asciilifeform: specified as 'police' [12:59]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mega-marksmanship << lel [12:59]
asciilifeform: '"It's a terrorist attack that is part of an insurrectional offensive by Venezuelan right-wing extremists with the support of foreign governments and powers," said a Venezuelan government communique on the helicopter raid.' << didjaknow [13:01]
mircea_popescu: "terrorist" = some govt doth not approve [13:01]
asciilifeform: 'Around the time of the attack, the pro-government Supreme Court expanded the role of the state ombudsman, a human rights guarantor who is closely allied with Maduro, by giving him powers previously held only by the state prosecutor's office. Tarek Saab, an ardent Maduro ally, can now lead criminal investigations by ordering state officials to conduct autopsies and carry out ballistics tests, powers previously reserved for state pros [13:02]
asciilifeform: ecutors. He will also have access to the case files associated with criminal trials.' [13:02]
asciilifeform: top orc. [13:02]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1676017 << 16GB, ftr [13:17]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 16:50 mircea_popescu: i read gb. [13:17]
asciilifeform: ( it ~wants~, seems, TB+ ) [13:17]
asciilifeform: for 0wrap. [13:17]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675561 << i reread the mega-thread, and it seems that i promised mircea_popescu an algo ! and never iirc posted... [13:54]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 01:32 Framedragger: (ah in fact a bit up the stack, http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-121602) [13:54]
asciilifeform: gotta do this, at some point , after done with the rsa thing [13:54]
asciilifeform: ( this was very near the time when FUCKGOATS was beginning to happen , and it took over asciilifeform's head for a long while ) [13:55]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> apparently in usg also there are 'untouchable' folx. << Care to do a qntra? Your interpretation seems more interesting than mine. [14:19]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hands full atm [14:20]
BingoBoingo: Ah [14:37]
BingoBoingo: In other citizen complaints: "Regarding recent posts about a suspicious white panel van that has been spotted ... was contacted by the owner who recognized his vehicle after seeing the posts on social media. He is a local construction worker who had pulled over to take a phone call after leaving a job site near the original complaint location... this was a false alarm." [14:37]
BingoBoingo: ^ Workvehicles now assumed to be crime scenes [14:38]
BingoBoingo: ^ Pulling over to make phone call like you aren't a suicidal psycho bitch, nao suspicious [14:38]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/fake-news-organizations-begin-bleeding-showing-fatigue/ << Qntra - Fake News Organizations Begin Bleeding, Showing Fatigue [15:21]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'ensures' [15:23]
TomServo: also, take *its* toll [15:32]
BingoBoingo: ty fxd [15:42]
ben_vulpes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/06/27/seattles-higher-minimum-wage-is-actually-working-just-fine/ << "minimum wage increase is totally working!!!" [16:23]
ben_vulpes: best part, "their results are just completely out of the standard accepted by minimum wage hike advocates as reasonable" [16:23]
jurov: a parallel with economy struck me. economists invented something they call "value" and are jerking off on it it ever since [16:40]
jurov: and cryptographers just invented -- entropy. [16:40]
asciilifeform: in other noose, in 6236676 phuctor moduli, still just the same old 2 fermat-factorables as 6 mo. ago. [17:15]
asciilifeform: ( 10,000 shots of fermatola / per. took ~40 min. ) [17:16]
asciilifeform: !!up palatine [17:16]
deedbot: palatine voiced for 30 minutes. [17:16]
asciilifeform: palatine: who might you be ? [17:17]
palatine: that's an interesting question [17:18]
asciilifeform: palatine: if so interesting, consider answering..? [17:19]
palatine: just reading trilema and contravex and followed the lead here [17:19]
asciilifeform: palatine: enjoy. and also there are logs, http://btcbase.org/log . [17:19]
palatine: thank you [17:20]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1676067 << :p [17:50]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 17:55 asciilifeform: ( this was very near the time when FUCKGOATS was beginning to happen , and it took over asciilifeform's head for a long while ) [17:50]
mircea_popescu: there is time tho [17:50]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1676078 << "twice the heroin works ok for me!" [17:51]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 20:23 ben_vulpes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/06/27/seattles-higher-minimum-wage-is-actually-working-just-fine/ << "minimum wage increase is totally working!!!" [17:51]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1676082 << cosmic rays behave in mysterious ways. [17:53]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 21:15 asciilifeform: in other noose, in 6236676 phuctor moduli, still just the same old 2 fermat-factorables as 6 mo. ago. [17:53]
shinohai: http://archive.is/9jQzU <<< Top kek OPSEC [18:21]
asciilifeform: in other peculiar bernsteinisms: http://loup-vaillant.fr/tutorials/poly1305-design [20:24]
ben_vulpes: and fortranisms: http://fluxus.haus/post/162281020169 [21:09]
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