Forum logs for 28 Jul 2018
| deedbot: | http://trilema.com/2018/la-lupa/ << Trilema - La Lupa | [00:30] |
| deedbot: | http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/auctionbot-eta-and-status-report/ << lobbesblog - Auctionbot ETA and Status Report | [01:29] |
| lobbes: | mod6, mircea_popescu, other interested parties ^^ | [01:32] |
| deedbot: | http://danielpbarron.com/2018/sounds-nerdy/ << Daniel P. Barron - Sounds nerdy | [06:50] |
| diana_coman: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-27-jul-2018#2462630 -> thanks, paid | [08:22] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-07-27 18:03 mod6: !!invoice diana_coman 0.14485298 Invoice for one year of Rockchip + FG | [08:22] |
| phf: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-10#1833262 << i traced the problem to wear and tear of one of the wires that runs from motherboard to the screen around the hinge area on the power plug side. the wire coating was damaged, and the wire would get in contact with the frame. it's the kind of issue you'd see on an old laptop after a decade of use, but i guess in this case chineseum | [10:44] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-07-10 19:22 phf: hmm, cp101pa hardware is really flaky, or perhaps i got a dud unit, because the "random shutdowns" "can't wake up" "stuck in a turn on/turn off mode" issues persist | [10:44] |
| asciilifeform: | phf: lol! | [10:53] |
| asciilifeform: | phf: i associate this kind of thing specifically with crapple . i guess other vendors finally catching up!111 | [10:54] |
| asciilifeform: | ( asciilifeform's pet has a early-2000s crapple that's on its 4th lcd hv cable ) | [10:55] |
| asciilifeform: | naively one could imagine that there's a market niche for a lappy that isn't a piece of shit. but evidently.. | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | speaking of nothing in particular, i'd say erryone who hasn't read http://trilema.com/2016/the-herd-of-independent-minds-or-has-the-avantgarde-its-own-mass-culture/ should prolly do that now. | [12:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | heck, even if read, the re-read may turn out to be quite enjoyable. | [12:43] |
| * asciilifeform | reread recently, a+++ | [12:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | the republic's ideology has just about caught up with the state of the art cca 1948, and we can in fact very directly use rosenberg terminology to explain why the pantsuit are so fucking objectionable, both ethically and aesthetically. | [12:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | very plainly put : that the elite is tempted to think of the herd in individual terms (which for the herd are inadequate in the sense shoes are inadequate to cows -- too much hassle for too little actual, practical, "how does the shoes relate to me" benefit) whereas the herd is only capable to think the elite in herd terms (between http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-21#985204 and how, say, romanian peasants' imago of "the king" | [12:47] |
| a111: | Logged on 2015-01-21 01:37 mircea_popescu: very common problem people have on the internet, the "everyone is as stupid as me / everyone's a goat the same gender and age as me" issue. | [12:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | 's "palace" as preserved in folklore includes all the features of a well-to-do peasant's house, and activities there pertaining. what's to keep the king from going to wait in the veranda ?). | [12:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | and that these are irreconcilable : either human experience will be discussed in terms of the elite, or of the herd. and that an multi-secular attempt at a discussion of human experience from a herd perspective is what http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818281 question hinges on. | [12:49] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-05-24 18:22 asciilifeform: ( recall mao's, when asked 'was french rev a good idea' 'too soon to say' ) | [12:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | and that it is not too late to tell now. and that we can tell it utterly failed, both in the soviet "one big mass" approach and in the roosevelt-socialist "pyramid of many masses" approach | [12:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | and that it hasn't merely failed happenstantially, but that it has failed necessarily and substantially : there can not be such a thing as a herd pov of human experience, simply because herd perspectives are falsifying, and in THAT of being of the many, therefore they are false. | [12:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | and that the failure works exactly as rosenberg describes : in trying to elide the commonality to situation, they recourse to a hallucinary commonality of experience, and method. | [12:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | (which both informs and explains ancient republican tenets such as "use whatever fucking language you're using" and so on. and which plainly explains why faux elites of the mass movement, be it weev or yarvin or that schmuck in "black mirror" or the "pua community" or w/e focus on a. providing a "sure fire" method through which b. you too, ~whoever you may be~ can whatever. this is necessarily and of its own blood and bone wr | [12:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | ong.) | [12:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | and so there we go. the reason their world ends is that we're right and they're wrong. at which point, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693368 | [12:53] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-08-03 18:20 mircea_popescu: how did the poet put it, "the writing head does write, and having writ, moves on | [12:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | poor marx, you know, and his delusions of "man liberated from the necessity of labour and then from the fetishism of market will finallty be an artist!!!". nigga say wut, take the cow's milk and hide, it goes back to being a baby, it doesn't become a philosopher. | [12:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | (note that all this directly ties into any random throe of socialism you might pick. say, the conteporary focus of usg pantsuit on disucssing "priviledge" -- directly because imagining an uncommonality of situation makes a fine last ditch effort to salvage the other commonalities "much more important to us".) | [12:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaand in closing, | [12:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | "But the genuine work of art, going past the formulated common experience, may succeed in communicating the common situation -- all too clearly from the point of view of the guardians of stasis. I doubt that those in authority would be so violently opposed to authentic art if, as they claim, it revealed only the private personality of the artist and had no further reference. On the contrary, I am inclined to believe that when | [12:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | art is condemned as "lacking broad meaning" or as "unrelated to real life" these accusations often disguise the fear that the exact opposite is true -- that this deviation has too much meaning and bears too acute a relation to life to be reconciled with the common myth." | [12:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | o checkme out, all caught up with logs! | [13:10] |
| * mircea_popescu | will now go read republican blogs an' town. let's see how much damage does an earthquake do! | [13:10] |
| asciilifeform: | !#s ortega y gasset | [13:49] |
| a111: | 3 results for "ortega y gasset", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ortega%20y%20gasset | [13:49] |
| asciilifeform: | hmm | [13:49] |
| asciilifeform: | i could've sworn there was a trilema re subj. quite related to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-28#1838071 , imho. | [13:49] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-07-28 16:43 mircea_popescu: speaking of nothing in particular, i'd say erryone who hasn't read http://trilema.com/2016/the-herd-of-independent-minds-or-has-the-avantgarde-its-own-mass-culture/ should prolly do that now. | [13:49] |
| deedbot: | http://qntra.net/2018/07/us-congress-considering-drastic-fine-increases-for-pirate-radio-activity/ << Qntra - US Congress Considering Drastic Fine Increases For "Pirate" Radio Activity | [14:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao | [14:23] |
| asciilifeform: | 'The term pirate radio broadcasting means the transmission of communications on spectrum frequencies between 535 to 1705 kHz or 87.7 to 108 MHz without a license issued by the Federal Communications Commission' << very peculiarly doesn't mention the rest of the spectrum | [14:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes oh i see what happened, so basically you went "shit, i'll do this auction fix thing once i get the whole bot rewritten". | [14:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform nobody expects they know what they're doing. | [14:27] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: or possibly the ordinary bureaucratic tunnel vision ( ~100% of 'pirate' of commercial interest to usa 'music' cartels lives precisely in the 'plebe fm' range specified ) | [14:28] |
| asciilifeform: | typically a puerto rican, or other orc, with rooftop aerial, good for 5-10km in rare cases, a 'darwinfish' church type | [14:30] |
| asciilifeform: | cranking out, respectively, unauthorized salsa, or the one trooo word of the saviour (tm)(r), etc | [14:31] |
| asciilifeform: | in both cases -- unforgivably!111 -- sans usg ads | [14:32] |
| asciilifeform: | come to think of it, the specimen in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-30#1761039 thread, was typical. | [14:35] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-12-30 03:04 l0de: The l0de radio hour is online! http://www.youtube.com/l0de/live call in live at 315-505-4666 TONIGHTS EPISODE: REMOTE AS FUCK, SHIT MAY NOT WORK | [14:35] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1752954 << earlier. | [14:36] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-12-18 01:18 phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide." | [14:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [14:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | men alone, what can you do. | [14:45] |
| lobbes: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-28#1838102 << yes. I do not see any point to building more on top of the unsteady scaffolding. I'd rather it rest on a proper republican foundation. and ftr, I did state this was my intention from the start >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-09#1833022 | [15:17] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-07-28 18:27 mircea_popescu: lobbes oh i see what happened, so basically you went "shit, i'll do this auction fix thing once i get the whole bot rewritten". | [15:17] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-07-09 21:24 lobbes: mod6 I would gladly work to earn that grant. As it is, I already need to get the 'legacy' auctionbot away from heathen dependencies (in this case, the 'supybot' api), so in building this custom auctionbot for pizarro I may just take the opportunity to design something sitting atop ircbot/logbot and eventually release a proper genesis | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes nothing wrong with that. i think it's both sound a decision in general and your call to make in any case. but it gotta be communicated as such. | [15:21] |
| lobbes: | clear communication is definitely a weak point of mine, and from what I can tell stems from my own unorganized mental processes. But as a semi-related side-note: Finally having a sane blogging tool is doing wonders for remedying the foregoing. | [15:31] |
| asciilifeform: | !!up fromloper | [17:16] |
| deedbot: | fromloper voiced for 30 minutes. | [17:16] |
| asciilifeform: | fromloper: hello ? | [17:16] |
| fromloper: | Hello. Was just reading through your blog, figured I would hop on IRC. Really I wanted to see if you were on reddit | [17:16] |
| asciilifeform: | curious, what's it mean 'on reddit'. i've an ancient and mostly disused acct there, what of it | [17:17] |
| asciilifeform: | posting to reddit is close to a guaranteed waste of time . | [17:18] |
| asciilifeform: | !#s reddit | [17:18] |
| a111: | 4803 results for "reddit", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=reddit | [17:18] |
| asciilifeform: | ^ behold. | [17:18] |
| fromloper: | Really I mean I wanted to make sure you weren't a guy I've got beef with on /r/lisp, because I would have to appologize. | [17:18] |
| fromloper: | Anyway, I've been contemplating building a lisp OS | [17:18] |
| asciilifeform: | unless it was in 2007 or approx, chances are that not | [17:19] |
| fromloper: | I won't mess with alternative archs like you are...at least not now | [17:19] |
| fromloper: | I just went down the rabbit hole of TempleOS. It is both terrifying and brilliant. | [17:20] |
| fromloper: | Anyway, didn't mean to bother you. I will go back to interacting with a more crystalized form of your mind. Adios. | [17:21] |
| asciilifeform: | fromloper: the moment you start trying to implement something that runs on actual iron, rather than vm/emulator, you're in for some hurt. | [17:21] |
| asciilifeform: | aite. | [17:21] |
| fromloper: | Ya... if I feel the pain, I own an FPGA I might play with. | [17:21] |
| fromloper: | Cya. | [17:21] |
| asciilifeform: | was gonna point him to the l0gz, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1544120 | [17:22] |
| a111: | Logged on 2016-09-17 16:55 asciilifeform: yes. and it made sense to me in '07. but not in '10 when i understood how the actual extant pc iron works. | [17:22] |
| asciilifeform: | but apparently reddit attention span dun work that way... | [17:22] |
| trinque: | lol, this "I have beef with someone on reddit" thing | [18:21] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, can't have beef with the moocows | [19:08] |
| asciilifeform: | 'hey, i heard you wrote something about music, i'm gonna start a band' 'what instruments do you play' 'i'm gonna bang two rocks together' 'y'know, it is not easy to tune these' 'eh, if i feel the pain, i have a stringless fiddle in my attic i might play with' | [19:35] |
| BingoBoingo: | It's how these things work. Yesterday I went to the electric company office to correct a bunch of mispellings and sign a contract for the power they have been delivering here. Monday I get to go to the fiber company office for similar reasons | [19:38] |
| deedbot: | http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/07/28/meet-harry/ << Bingo Blog - Meet Harry | [20:35] |
| BingoBoingo: | brb, Ludo and cooking tuna for the tuna | [21:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo ahahahaah omfg that was hysterical | [21:44] |
| BingoBoingo: | tyvm | [21:45] |
| BingoBoingo: | Seriously though a more detailed update on the state of Casa Boingo is indeed baking | [21:45] |
| BingoBoingo: | In other news, pete_d's new blog header has him with a Elon Musk branded weeding torch http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/contravex-not-a-flamethrower-header.jpeg | [21:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other news, "nudo" is how you say knots in this country. because obviously nudity and tries go together! | [21:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | it occurs to me, here's a good idea for a film : this woman loses a child, like it disappears. and then a year or so later it is found! | [23:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | however... it is not her child. | [23:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | in fact, there's this group of weirdos on reddit who train children to pretend they're the missing children of other people. | [23:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | basically a platform to explore the woeful mismatch between the inadequacy of ye olde fiat institutions and the far reaching powers of the network. | [23:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | obvious she "goes to friends for advice". what fucking friends ? what fucking "advice" ? the world hasn't worked that way in two centuries, if i want a shirt i want 1 in 1000 shirt shops, if i want a woman i talk to candidates selected through three to five passes with two to three degrees of magnitude lossage each... | [23:32] |
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