Forum logs for 26 Jul 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
BingoBoingo: bc,stats [00:10]
gribble: Current Blocks: 422299 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 1060 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [00:10]
BingoBoingo: ticker --market all [00:10]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 656.04, vol: 2447.54486577 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 647.239, vol: 3250.26899 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 654.2, vol: 15495.29185835 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 655.590192, vol: 93367.19340000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 653.74, vol: 763.61909007 | Volume-weighted last average: 655.165328116 [00:10]
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4877 [00:16]
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4879 [00:22]
deedbot: [Qntra] US Standards Institute Prepares To "Ban" SMS 2 Factor Authentication - http://qntra.net/2016/07/us-standards-institute-prepares-to-ban-sms-2-factor-authentication/ [01:56]
jurov: http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/ [04:46]
shinohai: bc,stats [08:44]
gribble: Current Blocks: 422347 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 1012 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 16 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [08:44]
thestringpuller: miners are defecting from eth to mine ethc [09:25]
jurov: thestringpuller: cited reasons? [09:37]
jurov: or just contrarian? [09:38]
thestringpuller: you can see the difficulty rising on eth stats [09:53]
thestringpuller: http://fork.ethstats.net/ [09:53]
thestringpuller: calc 398.8 / 4131.0 [09:54]
gribble: 0.0965383684338 [09:54]
thestringpuller: oh wow they have 10% of the hasspower now up from 5% [09:54]
thestringpuller: i was going to mine etc, but didn't want to get into huffing inhalants. [09:55]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-26-jul-2016#2136551 << no, just #trilema reader. [10:47]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 13:38 jurov: or just contrarian? [10:47]
mircea_popescu: lol look at un-bailed out ethereum version, tripled overnight ? [11:14]
shinohai: like a steam engine, has paid out dao attacker it appears [11:15]
mircea_popescu: aha. whole lulz delayed enough to allow payout. [11:19]
shinohai: later tell mod6 issue from last nite fixed, working nau: http://bit-box.org:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x4a75883cc1b1d34c&op=vindex [11:23]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [11:23]
mircea_popescu: shinohai check this out : https://archive.is/fork.ethstats.net [11:35]
mircea_popescu: 4298.0 GH/s 164.7 GH/s 25 Jul 2016 21:57:57 UTC 3529.7 GH/s 523.3 GH/s 26 Jul 2016 15:35:03 UTC [11:36]
mircea_popescu: it's not only that scamcoin-with-bailouts lost 20% in the past 18 hours. [11:36]
mircea_popescu: it's that the whole scam ecosystem went from 4298.0+164.7 = 4462 to 3529.7+523.3=4053 ie a ~10% loss of interest overnight. [11:37]
mircea_popescu: such is the wonderful if suicidal power of hard forks, and stephen tual pretending like he's a person, who may speak and have opinions, rather than admitting he's cattle, and should be sold by the pound off hooks in butcheries for a discount over pork bellies. [11:38]
mircea_popescu: now go qntra it. [11:39]
thestringpuller: oh wow down to 3569 [11:44]
mircea_popescu: it is free... freefalling... [11:47]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> now go qntra it. << Working on a draft already [11:51]
BingoBoingo: But thestringpuller this one could use double coverage since gloating [11:51]
deedbot: [Trilema] How to correctly value forked chains ? - http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-correctly-value-forked-chains/ [11:52]
thestringpuller: remember no access to Airgap key until 330 EST [11:52]
mircea_popescu: it's pretty lulzy all round. [11:52]
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/4up9li/how_to_correctly_value_forked_chains/ [11:57]
mircea_popescu: haha cool. [11:58]
mod6: shinohai: hey cool! [12:03]
shinohai: thx mod6 :D [12:06]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-power-of-nyet.html [12:28]
asciilifeform: ' If you are supposed to think and act like a hegemon, but only the thinking part still works, then the result is cognitive dissonance.' [12:28]
BingoBoingo: "Hegemon Go" would be a smartphone app I could get behind. [12:35]
asciilifeform: download this app from u.s. state dept. [12:36]
asciilifeform: doubless, they have it. [12:36]
asciilifeform: *doubtless [12:36]
BingoBoingo: Not in the form I imagine it. [12:36]
asciilifeform: shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510018 << what's this ? [12:37]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 15:23 shinohai: later tell mod6 issue from last nite fixed, working nau: http://bit-box.org:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x4a75883cc1b1d34c&op=vindex [12:37]
deedbot: [Qntra] Ether Huffing Ecosystem Loses 10% Mining Interest Overnight, Hashrate On Bailout Free Chain Climbing - http://qntra.net/2016/07/ether-huffing-ecosystem-loses-10-mining-interest-overnight-hashrate-on-bailout-free-chain-climbing/ [12:37]
BingoBoingo: The way I imagine it working is you have your assistant/slave/general following you and capturing incidents of you oppressing those who require it, and based on how many points of "Glories" you collect, you get to reward yourself however you wish. [12:38]
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4upkkd/hardfork_hazards_both_ethereum_chains_lose_10/ [12:44]
shinohai: asciilifeform: it is a hypothetical keyserver [12:47]
asciilifeform: shinohai: who did you get to peer with it ? [12:50]
asciilifeform: i set up an sks node at one point but barfed when i learned that i would have to ask heathens for PERMISSION [12:50]
shinohai: not currently peered to anyone as far as i can tell [12:51]
asciilifeform: then it does not function [12:51]
asciilifeform: at least, not with regard to keys moving in/out. [12:52]
asciilifeform: sks peerings have to be enabled on BOTH ends [12:52]
BingoBoingo: $up felipelalli [13:14]
deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes. [13:14]
asciilifeform: later tell BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/07/hastert-fights-suit-over-unpaid-hush-money << breech->breach [13:18]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [13:18]
BingoBoingo: ty, fxing though Hastert did have a thing for entering the breech [13:19]
ben_vulpes: http://www.northofreality.com/tales/2016/7/25/egg-encryption [13:22]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: reminds me of 1990s gem 'the mizarian mice' [13:25]
mircea_popescu: o look at that, thestringpuller had the eth lulz in the logs earlier. wd eh. [13:26]
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1d108b1837a182293818aaeb366b6933 [13:27]
asciilifeform: (why they put it ~there~, i have nfi) [13:27]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo Similarly ten percent of the mining interest in the Buterin blessed << more like 20 really. [13:30]
BingoBoingo: ty fxd [13:31]
asciilifeform: from the dept of lulz, http://www.databreachtoday.com/dnc-breach-more-severe-than-first-believed-a-9287 [14:32]
asciilifeform: i thought orlov was stretching the truth, but apparently not - the new Official Narrative is 'trump is ru agent' [14:33]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That narrative has been hinted since March [14:43]
BingoBoingo: Maybe earlier [14:44]
asciilifeform: anyone here have a 'somethingawful' account ? [14:46]
BingoBoingo: bc,stats [14:59]
gribble: Current Blocks: 422376 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 983 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 15 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [14:59]
BingoBoingo: ticker --market all [14:59]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 655.55, vol: 2998.33517588 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 647.0, vol: 4884.87185 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 656.36, vol: 19641.48497918 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 655.563666, vol: 144866.82960000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 659.06, vol: 1116.54189106 | Volume-weighted last average: 655.43497803 [14:59]
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/smeg.jpg [16:05]
asciilifeform: ^ in a restaurant. [16:05]
BingoBoingo: Did someone not use a level when making floor? [16:09]
asciilifeform: possibly. [16:10]
BingoBoingo: Also vinyl "tile" in commercial setting?! [16:10]
asciilifeform: aha [16:11]
asciilifeform: and pretty common outside of the mcfood world [16:11]
BingoBoingo: Only suitable floor for commercial use is concrete, preferably reinforced. [16:14]
BingoBoingo: Especially in restaurants. [16:15]
BingoBoingo: Otherwise how are servers going to evacuate 1000 pound customers with the electric pallet jack and the fork truck? [16:15]
BingoBoingo: If nursing homes get fined for not doing this why not fine restaurants? [16:16]
BingoBoingo: Anyways the reason you can't use anything other than concrete is there's no way to deep clean the lesser floor materials [16:17]
asciilifeform: i generally do not go to places where you eat off the floor... [16:18]
BingoBoingo: That doesn't mean floor stops existing. [16:19]
asciilifeform: it means i have nfi why it has to be 'deep cleaned' [16:20]
BingoBoingo: Because 'Murica. Every now and then a disgruntled customer is going to shit on the floor. That's how food service works. [16:21]
BingoBoingo: At least in the United States [16:21]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ought to vacation sometime, 100 mile from nearest monkeyman [16:22]
asciilifeform: he will enjoy, i promise [16:22]
asciilifeform: (the 100 is a minimum) [16:22]
BingoBoingo: Anyways vinyl your best hope is bleaching with bleach. Concrete you can bleach with concentrated HCL [16:23]
asciilifeform: vinyl is 'cleaned' by ripping off and new vinyl. [16:23]
BingoBoingo: And cheap plywood subfloor that probably isn't even oriented strand board? [16:23]
asciilifeform: what does BingoBoingo do atop of these, such that they require cleaning ? [16:24]
BingoBoingo: Why plan to limit the subset of acceptable activities when opening your commercial space to the public? [16:25]
* asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo building himself a house, then licensing with the city as 'grade A abbatoir' just-in-case... [16:26]
BingoBoingo: Nah prolly just license as "warehouse" [16:26]
BingoBoingo: or ark [16:27]
BingoBoingo: Phun Phact, The ark of the covenant was where the Jooz kept their GPG keys [16:28]
BingoBoingo: But anyways no amount of being able to cheaply rip up vinyl floor makes it suitable for customer evacuating pallet jack [16:29]
BingoBoingo: And fork truck [16:30]
asciilifeform: where can i donate to lobby for human fat to be assessed as fuel for purpose of fire code ? [16:31]
BingoBoingo: I think the political action committee for that is still 2-5 years away [16:34]
asciilifeform: lolk [16:35]
BingoBoingo: I mean if you move to small town midwest you could probably get such a rule done on your own in 18 months [16:37]
asciilifeform: yeah but then i'd be in smalltownmidwest. [16:38]
asciilifeform: and would be quite busy, e.g., buggering dead badgers to the tune of a banjo, or whatever it is that one does there. [16:38]
BingoBoingo: But you'd have fiber internet without signing soul over to Verizon/Comcast [16:40]
asciilifeform: from where ? [16:42]
asciilifeform: god drops fibre from heaven, or what [16:42]
BingoBoingo: From having already been built [16:43]
asciilifeform: built by whom ? [16:44]
BingoBoingo: By the people who live in the towns with 5kilo-20kilo people and want the internet to not suck, but they towns aren't so big demoocracy and Rhonda get in the way [16:45]
asciilifeform: what's a rhonda [16:46]
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/ [16:47]
asciilifeform: ah [16:47]
BingoBoingo: Towns of that magical size where they can be like "fuck it, let the churches do the welfare" [16:48]
BingoBoingo: And nearest food stamp, HUD, Social Services office, is either a half hours drive away or a full day's walk away [16:49]
asciilifeform: any towns with church-curated fiber ? [16:49]
asciilifeform: might be interesting experience [16:49]
asciilifeform: and incidentally i am pretty sure that at this very moment i am in a town where the nearest foodstamp recipient is a full day's walk away. [16:50]
asciilifeform: and no residential fiber, believe or not, to be seen, anywhere. [16:50]
BingoBoingo: Nah, church doesn't get to touch fiber like town doesn't get to touch welfare [16:51]
BingoBoingo: Your problem is the coastiness [16:51]
asciilifeform: how's that a problem ? [16:52]
BingoBoingo: And these criteria on their own are not enough [16:52]
BingoBoingo: Coastiness is a problem because it breeds unwarranted self importance due to proximity to bigger cities [16:53]
BingoBoingo: Coastiness provides bad metrics for competing with neighboring towns [16:53]
asciilifeform: i am at a loss for how this adds up to 'no fiber' [16:54]
BingoBoingo: Coastiness also promotes more itinerants and less people attached to their location [16:54]
asciilifeform: mno. not here. [16:54]
asciilifeform: this place is perhaps 90+% moneyed retirees. [16:54]
BingoBoingo: Ah, so their problem is they don't work [16:55]
asciilifeform: of course not [16:55]
asciilifeform: why would they [16:55]
asciilifeform: so far my working hypothesis is that there is no fiber because it dun work on a yacht. [16:56]
BingoBoingo: Which is another coastal problem that prevents http://www.highlandcommunicationservices.com/residential-plans.htm [16:56]
asciilifeform: 'highland communications' << tcp-over-bagpipe ? [16:57]
BingoBoingo: If bagpipe can carry gigabit [16:58]
asciilifeform: incidentally it would appear that BingoBoingo's isp ^ costs, ~to a penny, what verizon costs. [16:58]
asciilifeform: (at the GB tier, actually $100 MOAR) [16:58]
asciilifeform: so where is the win ? [16:58]
asciilifeform: if this existed in my locale, i'd be hard-pressed for a reason to switch to it [16:58]
BingoBoingo: The win is Verizon doesn't eat and Verizon isn't here anymore. Competition is Charter and Frontier. [16:59]
asciilifeform: tentacles of same octopus. [16:59]
asciilifeform: (frontier iirc consists now largely of off-loaded verizon units) [16:59]
BingoBoingo: Sure but verizon units as they were when offloaded so here copper [17:00]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: when you say 'competition', do you mean that you can get fiber from the other 2 ? [17:00]
asciilifeform: or is dsl somehow 'competition' [17:00]
BingoBoingo: competition as in "internet that involves wired connection" [17:01]
asciilifeform: lol [17:01]
asciilifeform: then the matchstick chariot i made as a kid, pulled by beetles, is competition for ferrari. [17:01]
asciilifeform: (hey it beats on price!111) [17:02]
BingoBoingo: Except flip who built what vehicle [17:03]
asciilifeform: ? [17:04]
thestringpuller: later tell BingoBoingo I'm trying to find a place to look at seasons for various crops in various states...why is this so hard... [17:04]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [17:04]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If ford and chevy offer cardboard wagon and you build actual metal truck to serve your need where is the problem? [17:05]
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Because one can not agriculture without having agricultured before [17:05]
BingoBoingo: It is agriCULTURE not agriGoogleandhopeforthebest [17:06]
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as 'farmer's almanac' [17:06]
asciilifeform: afaik in dead tree strictly. [17:06]
asciilifeform: go, read. [17:06]
asciilifeform: 'when to plant x' is documented. [17:07]
asciilifeform: other things - not so much. [17:07]
BingoBoingo: It is one way to start getting familiar with the culture [17:12]
BingoBoingo: Different agricultures vary though. We grow loofah for sponge, Preet grows Loofah for eating, etc [17:12]
BingoBoingo: Sandwich tomato makes awfule sauce tomato, etc [17:13]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510069 << high up there in the top of idiocies ustards will eat up. [17:57]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 18:33 asciilifeform: i thought orlov was stretching the truth, but apparently not - the new Official Narrative is 'trump is ru agent' [17:57]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510092 << this is an entirely novel idea... [17:58]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 20:21 BingoBoingo: Because 'Murica. Every now and then a disgruntled customer is going to shit on the floor. That's how food service works. [17:58]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510108 << this is altogether not such a bad idea. if halon gotta pay hazmat to fly, fatass sure as fuck gotta pay hazmat to be in airport. [17:59]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 20:31 asciilifeform: where can i donate to lobby for human fat to be assessed as fuel for purpose of fire code ? [17:59]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510113 << really, one does ~exactly what you do : keeps the fuck out of the way of neighbours and works on own pet projects. [18:01]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 20:38 asciilifeform: and would be quite busy, e.g., buggering dead badgers to the tune of a banjo, or whatever it is that one does there. [18:01]
mircea_popescu: and wtf is with the "up to" menu. really, 400 dollars buys me "up to a steak" ? fuck that, how about his steak gets him UP TO 400 bucks, whatever i happen to have in my pocket. [18:03]
mircea_popescu: who the fuck came up with this idiocy already. [18:03]
mircea_popescu: o btw, how's chandler guo doing ? shall we add yet another skull of an usg-astroturfed-miner to the collection ? [18:25]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you recall the meanwhile-forgotten name of the derp who was doing this "oh i am a miner hurr" posturing maybe 6 months or so ago ? [18:26]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Toomim? [18:30]
mircea_popescu: there you go. [18:30]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and wtf is with the "up to" menu. really, 400 dollars buys me "up to a steak" ? fuck that, how about his steak gets him UP TO 400 bucks, whatever i happen to have in my pocket. << German settlement can not prevent every UStard idiocy from intruding [18:31]
mircea_popescu: fucking hillary clinton, all of them. "very important" and a big deal and "informed" and bla bla for the five fucking minutes the show's on. just like any stripper cum tv anchor / us "corporation" etcetera. [18:31]
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile from the idiot panic chamber http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/shock-poll-nate-silvers-election-forecast-now-has-trump-winning [18:37]
mircea_popescu: doh. [18:37]
BingoBoingo: Anyways I guess that's the other thing from selecting a midwestern nowhere I forgot to offer asciilifeform, if it took the world wars to get the local paper to print in English the town is probably better than others. [18:39]
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to see if he actually scraps nato. [18:39]
BingoBoingo: Or kinda turns Nato into a subscription sorta deal. [18:40]
mircea_popescu: it's ~the only reasonable move for the us but on the other hand it'd make the dotcom bust look like frog's piss in comparison to the bath the globalist "modern democracy" imbeciles would take. [18:40]
mircea_popescu: 15% lol. [18:41]
mircea_popescu: http://news.alternet.org/files/screen_shot_2016-07-25_at_6.22.30_pm.png << the graph of ridiculous dreamer "hope". check that shit out, the idiots in the vats are actually saying the hillary electorare IS SLOW. [18:43]
mircea_popescu: you know, the low information voters and assorted clueless idiots take a week longer than the rednecks to form an opinion. hurr. [18:44]
mircea_popescu: why the fuck did they spend all that money on smartphones and college debt and all that time on social media then ? [18:44]
BingoBoingo: feels [18:46]
BingoBoingo: And Adipositivity [18:47]
BingoBoingo: And slow because "safe space" [18:47]
mircea_popescu: heh. [18:48]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the truth of the matter is that us citizens have no intellect or spine. a good third of the electorate just wants to vote with whoever's winning so as to then have voted for the winner. that's it. [18:49]
mircea_popescu: trump's having such a marked advantage so early, on top of a campaign entirely predicated on flattening everything and everyone (and implicitly "the man") draws that chunk of idiots in like shit draws flies. [18:50]
mircea_popescu: it's unfixable, by now. [18:50]
BingoBoingo: Basically the contrast is Trump tried to kill the GOP, suceeded. Hillary rode the DNC and happened to kill it in the process. [18:51]
BingoBoingo: Which is why if one owns a Ranch one must always include "no fat chicks" on their brand. Otherwise horses take quick trip to factory of glue [18:52]
ben_vulpes: never underestimate the pain of having to scrape a bumper sticker off your 2015 wrx [18:58]
BingoBoingo: https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1469151285987-0.jpg [18:58]
BingoBoingo: ^ like that ben_vulpes [18:58]
ben_vulpes: aaah [19:01]
ben_vulpes: ah [19:01]
ben_vulpes: the brainbleach where is it [19:01]
ben_vulpes: help [19:01]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ffs man good oh fuck [19:01]
* ben_vulpes flaps incoherently [19:01]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo crazy, i get a blocked page [19:16]
mircea_popescu: and a warning re broken certificate. apparently blocklist.rkn.gov.ru doesn't know how to do this right [19:17]
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/0Q6D90C << hijacked page. [19:18]
asciilifeform: Доступ к запрашиваемому ресурсу ограничен << lel [19:29]
asciilifeform: why was mircea_popescu connecting via ru ? [19:33]
asciilifeform: (linked item is 'great firewall of ru' fuckyou page) [19:33]
mircea_popescu: must be what happened to pop to surface. [19:40]
asciilifeform: what next, chinese proxy, lel [19:42]
mircea_popescu: sure. [19:42]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510186 << what i'd like to know is what became of that ~other~, quiet usg miner [19:44]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 22:26 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you recall the meanwhile-forgotten name of the derp who was doing this "oh i am a miner hurr" posturing maybe 6 months or so ago ? [19:44]
asciilifeform: 'telco 214' [19:44]
asciilifeform: $s telco 214 [19:44]
a111: 6 results for "telco 214", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=telco%20214 [19:44]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-17#1203888 [19:45]
a111: Logged on 2015-07-17 01:50 asciilifeform: decimation: 'telco 214' is the owner of a single ip which houses, as far as i can tell, at least 2% of current net hash. [19:45]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/o-hey-is-it-november-yet/ << today is Pole Day. [19:55]
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well, involved unpleasant scraping. [20:07]
mircea_popescu: in other holy shit javascript, a.b where a, b are strings results in the STRING "undefined" whereas a.concat(b) results in a string that's a followed by b. [20:09]
mircea_popescu: really ? who thought this makes sense and how did they figure it ? [20:09]
mircea_popescu: 1+addition(5) = 6 ? [20:09]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510077 << that's the kind of stuff you see at those new retro places, like marivana [20:23]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 20:05 asciilifeform: in other nyooz, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/smeg.jpg [20:23]
mircea_popescu: and in other breadboard news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2k7uiIYH41qdlisco1_500.gif [20:27]
deedbot: [Trilema] My First Bitcoin, or How Do I Get Some Satoshi ? - http://trilema.com/2016/my-first-bitcoin-or-how-do-i-get-some-satoshi/ [21:32]
mircea_popescu: ^ if anyone was looking for something to advertise. [21:32]
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4uq9h7/are_bitcoin_users_at_coinbase_exposed_in_an/d5rv46r [22:39]
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/4jmQD [22:44]
mircea_popescu: $up lru [23:00]
deedbot: lru voiced for 30 minutes. [23:00]
lru: a.b is asking for the 'b' property in the object a, which is undefined (the type, not the string), but since types can be automatically converted, and you're working with strings, the undefined type may have been turned into a string depending on use [23:19]
lru: a.b is the same as a['b'], since nearly everything in javascript is an object [23:20]
BingoBoingo: But how does this make baby? [23:20]
lru: the question was about "holy shit javascript" not "fucking javascript" :-) [23:21]
mircea_popescu: lru yeah. braindamaged fucking notation tho. [23:21]
mircea_popescu: btw, you got your pgp reg'd with deedbot ? [23:22]
lru: no... still mostly watching for now [23:23]
lru: is there a way to extract help from the deedbot? [23:24]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i fucking hate the notion of "implicit object". [23:25]
mircea_popescu: $help [23:25]
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/help.html [23:25]
lru: thanks [23:25]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-27#1510257 << always despised perl for this (among 1,001 other) reason [23:26]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-27 03:25 mircea_popescu: anyway, i fucking hate the notion of "implicit object". [23:26]
asciilifeform: picture a pistol that shoots 'implicit object'. [23:26]
asciilifeform: (the marksman's head, but how is he to know) [23:27]
mircea_popescu: somehow the dot became so deeply "concat strings" that i'd first check "who the fuck is regexping this" perhaps but it'd never occur to me to say "you know what - it saw a dot it's now looking at a class" [23:31]
mircea_popescu: just, totally out of left field. [23:31]
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