Forum logs for 25 Sep 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
BingoBoingo: lol [00:01]
BingoBoingo: !~kitchensync [00:01]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "kitchensync" is not a valid command. [00:01]
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/24/im-too-lazy-and-other-excuses-that-people-say/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - “I’m too lazy” and other excuses that “people” say. [00:48]
BingoBoingo: Lol, Qntra was apparently hot on the Roger VERified subreddit today https://archive.is/gGyeM [01:16]
adlai: https://nkilsdonkgervais.wordpress.com/2016/08/10/research-finds-that-the-state-is-entirely-funded-by-male-taxpayers/ [04:31]
adlai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/3BJPW7M.txt [06:19]
jhvh1: adlai: The operation succeeded. [06:19]
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160925/#62 << nice, i got meself some nice nicknames courtesy of pete_dushenski [09:16]
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-25: [04:48:16] <deedbot> http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/24/im-too-lazy-and-other-excuses-that-people-say/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - “I’m too lazy” and other excuses that “people” say. [09:16]
* Framedragger apprecaites [09:17]
shinohai: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-25-sep-2016#2174992 <<< bwahaha I didn't think about how r/btc would take any article critical of theymos and send to moon. [09:24]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-25 05:16 BingoBoingo: Lol, Qntra was apparently hot on the Roger VERified subreddit today https://archive.is/gGyeM [09:24]
Framedragger: !~later tell pete_dushenski btw could you update the bots directory so that `!$ hello` means (something like) 'Prints "Hello, world!" and uptime of the bot'? (you can /msg scriba help). gracias. [09:25]
jhvh1: Framedragger: The operation succeeded. [09:25]
Framedragger: phf: thank you for explaining the peculiarities of text encoding in regards to processing irc lines. shame on me for not pre-emptively researching this myself [09:31]
BingoBoingo: http://oglaf.com/kudos/ [09:49]
shinohai: lol [09:50]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/difficulty-up-6-86-in-fifth-hike-since-halving/ << Qntra - Difficulty Up 6.86% In Fifth Hike Since Halving [10:06]
shinohai: !!key anond [11:28]
deedbot: No such key. [11:28]
mod6: !!key anond [12:02]
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/94izo/?raw=true [12:02]
mod6: there it is. [12:02]
shinohai: !!up Tsuloid [12:24]
deedbot: Tsuloid voiced for 30 minutes. [12:24]
Tsuloid: Right. :) [12:24]
Tsuloid: !!register A1EB5ED4AFDBBBF763ED0C0FF1E1BFA5EFCD6C5D [12:26]
deedbot: Import failed for A1EB5ED4AFDBBBF763ED0C0FF1E1BFA5EFCD6C5D. [12:26]
Tsuloid: Ow. [12:26]
shinohai: !!up Tsuloid [12:27]
deedbot: Tsuloid voiced for 30 minutes. [12:27]
Tsuloid: !!register A1EB5ED4AFDBBBF763ED0C0FF1E1BFA5EFCD6C5D [12:27]
deedbot: A1EB5ED4AFDBBBF763ED0C0FF1E1BFA5EFCD6C5D registered as Tsuloid. [12:28]
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/a-robust-testable-and-tested-reentrant-timer-in-java-and-clojure << CH - A Robust, Testable (and tested), Reentrant Timer in Java and Clojure [14:34]
phf: ben_vulpes: ^ my condolences [14:41]
ben_vulpes: phf: thank you [14:45]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform is the canonical "clojure suxx!" standard bearer but i don't think he has my contempt of familiarity [14:50]
mircea_popescu: o wow check it up, not disconnected. [16:40]
mircea_popescu: !!key anond [17:33]
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/cqapx/?raw=true [17:33]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-evercunt-revolution/ << Trilema - The Evercunt Revolution [17:50]
mircea_popescu: "Atlantic Halibut are Officially OK, but those from the Pacific Ocean are FORBIDDEN. If a halibut threatens to break your knees, especially if your fishmonger operates out of a New Jersey strip joint, enjoy dinner. Salmon is bad unless Sarah Palin shot it." lmao this guy... [18:28]
mircea_popescu: also, it's "de rigueur" not "de regueur". wtf is this, regor mortis ? [18:30]
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160925/#53 << and yet i bet you that a) it's "cloud" bullshit ie no relation between can and label and b) if i hit them they'll go down faster than a honest 2gb ram dual core dedicated which retails for like 100 bux. [18:33]
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-25: [03:00:15] <phf> so people who took over operation of gmane (~one~ server) just posted their current setup, http://home.gmane.org/2016/09/14/anatomy-gmane-v2/ (4 x ElasticSearch data servers 48GB, 2x2TB disk, ... ... ... ...) [18:33]
mircea_popescu: aaand in other vintage, http://66.media.tumblr.com/a89ec3cada99db6c381d70a02aee5568/tumblr_niyl9kY1521t1ja2oo1_1280.jpg [18:39]
shinohai: Doesn't get more vintage than naugahyde ... the stains wipe away so easily! [18:43]
mircea_popescu: lol [18:48]
mircea_popescu: 80s hair ftw. [18:49]
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160925/#100 << actually i enjoyed reading. [18:56]
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-25: [18:34:29] <deedbot> http://cascadianhacker.com/a-robust-testable-and-tested-reentrant-timer-in-java-and-clojure << CH - A Robust, Testable (and tested), Reentrant Timer in Java and Clojure [18:56]
asciilifeform: aaaand from the dept. of unsurprises, 'Today, I am happy to report that the site is back up — this time under Project Shield, a free program run by Google to help protect journalists from online censorship. And make no mistake, DDoS attacks — particularly those the size of the assault that hit my site this week — are uniquely effective weapons for stomping on free speech...' -- herr krebs [19:06]
asciilifeform: ( https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/09/the-democratization-of-censorship ) [19:07]
asciilifeform: and, from google's site, 'Do I qualify? [19:07]
asciilifeform: Project Shield welcomes applications from websites serving news, human rights, or elections monitoring content. We do not provide service to other types of content, including gaming, businesses, or individual blogs. See our User Content and Conduct Policy for more details.' [19:07]
asciilifeform: gold. [19:07]
mircea_popescu: aghahha [19:09]
asciilifeform: didjaknow, krebs is ESSENTIAL HJOOOMAN RIGHTZ!!11111 NOOSE [19:09]
mircea_popescu: "note from hitler" [19:09]
asciilifeform: unlike TERRORLEMA [19:09]
mircea_popescu: that's ok, i really wouldnb't want to be googlehosted anyway. [19:09]
asciilifeform: no but this is hilarious [19:10]
mircea_popescu: (if you notice, trilema is one of the few pages online, and certainly the only domain of that size, that DOESNT import google javascript) [19:10]
mircea_popescu: it is pretty good. archive teh google do i qualify thing for prosteriority. [19:10]
asciilifeform: the war against www-outside-of-google is not even a mega-seekrit no moar. [19:10]
asciilifeform: (recall the original jwz thread..) [19:10]
mircea_popescu: !!key Tsuloid [19:10]
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/77fym/?raw=true [19:10]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548209 << this caveat was not for trinque in particular but for whoever overexcitables. [19:12]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 18:31 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548167 << somebody claiming I don't understand that I've bought a CPU debugger? [19:12]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-25#1548431 << spinmasters spinnin', but retreating, it is clear even to the imbeciles that they ain't winning this one, the number of remaining actual programmers in 'libreboot' is now 0 [19:14]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-25 02:48 phf: "Richard Stallman and GNU refused to let libreboot go, despite stating its intention to leave culture rant libreboot.org" (particularly hilarious rant in light of http://zammit.org/libreboot-screwup.html) [19:14]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-25#1548448 << noshit.jpg [19:14]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-25 08:31 adlai: https://nkilsdonkgervais.wordpress.com/2016/08/10/research-finds-that-the-state-is-entirely-funded-by-male-taxpayers/ [19:14]
mircea_popescu: doh. [19:16]
mircea_popescu: this is an invariant throughout human society and reasonable. [19:16]
asciilifeform: great inca directly subsidizing rookeries is reasonable?! [19:17]
mircea_popescu: which historical example do you suspect of being otherwise organised ? [19:18]
asciilifeform: everybody without a great inca ? [19:18]
mircea_popescu: from classical china to pirate jamestown, the state rests on the backs of young virgin males. [19:18]
mircea_popescu: therein included - vikings during their fun years britain throughout the beyazit ottomans and whatever else you may wish to think of. [19:19]
asciilifeform: not comparable with the state that is the subj of linked piece. [19:19]
asciilifeform: which runs strictly vermin factories. [19:19]
asciilifeform: and 0 viking horde. [19:19]
mircea_popescu: how practical, well founded, sane etc the state is has no bearing however. [19:20]
asciilifeform: i dun think author of subj was complaining re females not being usefully taxable. [19:21]
asciilifeform: but re the other end of the pipe. [19:21]
asciilifeform: but then again i have nfi, i'm all outta telepathy pills [19:21]
mircea_popescu: well, which end ? [19:22]
asciilifeform: the spending end. [19:22]
mircea_popescu: i dun follow. what are you saying ? [19:22]
asciilifeform: consider reading linked item.. [19:23]
mircea_popescu: i am reading it. [19:23]
asciilifeform: 'The fact that feminists want a stronger government is not a coincidence. While historically, women had to choose a wealthy husband for resources, they can now stay single, be lesbians, marry a poor man, or use the sperm bank, and the state will still transfer male taxes to them. Interestingly, within 10 years of women’s suffrage, the government doubled their tax revenue and expenditure in the USA [19:23]
asciilifeform: . The government has somehow become the new providing husband, by taking money from anonymous men who have no say about their money. While women are still strongly financially dependent on men, men are simply unable to use the money they make for their own interests.' [19:23]
asciilifeform: etc. [19:23]
mircea_popescu: i don't believe the "find a strong man" fantasy he discusses existed anywhere outside of say 1500 italy etc. [19:24]
mircea_popescu: even there it's dubious, as the writers of the period do not fail to inform you, from the decameron to the barber of seville. [19:24]
asciilifeform: 'I know when ARPANET was being developed, they were interested in physical (wires-level) robustness (i.e., in case of war) – but I’m not aware of any scholarly research going on about how to protect TCP/IP from itself.' [19:25]
asciilifeform: lel. [19:25]
* asciilifeform bbl, meat. [19:25]
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's two separate issues here. one of them is, "who brings food home and who eats". the fact remains that as averages and in general terms, men hunt and women nest. and this is a fact, and very much invariant throughout human society, pre or post letters. [19:27]
mircea_popescu: the OTHER of them is, "who should tell who what to do". and this is - like everything else involving women - a very much on-demand thing. if you tell her what to do, she will. if you don't, she'll tell you. [19:27]
mircea_popescu: this is in my eyes exactly as it should be. the contorted proposition that "because [we make the meat] therefore [we should tell you what to do]" seems pretty ridiculous. if it is already the case then it's right and proper that it should be the case but if it isn't the case then the obvious "oh yeah ? you and whose army ?" sinks the entire argument. [19:28]
mircea_popescu: what, god should come from heavens and tell that girl elliot's been eyeing that she should go talk to him and otherwise gather up all the women and explain to them that they should listen to the men more ? [19:29]
mircea_popescu: ridoinculous. [19:29]
mircea_popescu: for example, since it's a funny one - prior to usian invasion, the traditional society of hawaii was nudist and women were forbidden from eating anything but tuber paste. no fruit no meat etc. this arrangement survived for millenia, but went away cca 19th century. [19:30]
mircea_popescu: now, who is to say that female in honolulu SHOULD or SHOULD NOT have a grape ? on what basis ? etc. [19:30]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6z3zg/?raw=true [21:30]
BingoBoingo: ty [22:20]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/lizards-have-human-rights-too/ << Qntra - Lizards have human rights too! [22:26]
shinohai: All good here, SSA website is now safe: [22:50]
shinohai: http://archive.is/VT5Lq [22:50]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [23:10]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 598.99, vol: 1327.73064320 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 603.78, vol: 2901.17224 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 600.79, vol: 1397.54469988 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 601.0, vol: 0.02 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 599.159294, vol: 193882.63140000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 600.0, vol: 487.43336109 | Volume-weighted last average: 599.238642859 [23:10]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/refugee-death-displaces-electoral-noise-from-us-national-conversation-on-eve-of-debate/ << Qntra - Refugee Death Displaces Electoral Noise From US National Conversation On Eve Of Debate [23:31]
BingoBoingo: ^ Death is so unfair! [23:33]
BingoBoingo: hello lobbes [23:36]
lobbes: hey BingoBoingo [23:36]
BingoBoingo: What's been happening? [23:36]
lobbes: eh not too much. got a new gig and ended up moving outta the ohio [23:37]
lobbes: now in southeast [23:37]
BingoBoingo: Sweet! Anywhere's better than Ohio. [23:37]
lobbes: good weather down here too [23:37]
BingoBoingo: Just wait till winter! You might not have one. [23:38]
mircea_popescu: ohio is like the least popular state huh [23:39]
lobbes: I actually didn't mind it too much. but depressing, sure. economy non-existent [23:39]
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, http://autooverload.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/wed15.jpg [23:40]
BingoBoingo: Sweet front end loader, might have to upgrade in a few years though [23:44]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, looks like it can hadle a coupla tons [23:44]
BingoBoingo: the kind of tons matter though [23:46]
BingoBoingo: amorphous sacks aren't the most stable things, tend to slosh, places stress in odd places [23:47]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/575A15CF2DA998E5E78663389111EFA3BF1F80A47EEB005ED795EA946D20253F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 109599797444024509787856438588803873233485202369776957423109401507256514201183 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.47.20.107 (ssh-rsa key from 85.47.20.107 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+85.47.20.107@mkj.lt> ' [23:47]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F7EE9D7418360EBF5222D566B0A5B811023AC29616EBC02A9EE52BDB5A00038A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 109599797444024509787856438588803873233485202369776957423109401507256514201183 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '2.116.209.1 (ssh-rsa key from 2.116.209.1 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+2.116.209.1@mkj.lt> ' [23:47]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A558B10A1CCC09194358E0502CAFA4415F57F1944DD9FE618E2A2E2D29EFAC0F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 109599797444024509787856438588803873233485202369776957423109401507256514201183 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '217.57.196.177 (ssh-rsa key from 217.57.196.177 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+217.57.196.177@mkj.l [23:47]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/24698AD72475BB28F25AD63CC626A01EC41AF82BC51BC4CB8118FC5B15BDF42E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 109599797444024509787856438588803873233485202369776957423109401507256514201183 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '217.57.196.179 (ssh-rsa key from 217.57.196.179 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+217.57.196.179@mkj.l [23:47]
mircea_popescu: heh [23:51]
asciilifeform: aaah nice heavy catch in them nets tonight. [23:52]
mircea_popescu: as a byproduct this is drawing an interesting graph of "who owns what" [23:53]
asciilifeform: hm? [23:55]
mircea_popescu: 85.47.20.* is now connected to 2.116.209.* and 217.57.196.* for example. [23:55]
mircea_popescu: unless of course you believe in the harmonic cosmic ray theory. which i suppose would qualify one for "quantum computing". [23:55]
asciilifeform: ah yeah dupolade in there [23:56]
asciilifeform: doesn't actually meant they're same box, or same chump, there's a mindboggling number of turdware routers etc with bitwise duped fw incl key [23:56]
mircea_popescu: well yes, the nature of the connection is unclear as of yet. but it's there. [23:57]
asciilifeform: http://85.47.20.107/view/login.html << dafuq is this. [23:57]
asciilifeform: '//mod by menglingshan KF71601 2012-11-23 ARWEBV2R3C00-2018 start' << lel. [23:58]
mircea_popescu: looks like vodafone crapolade [23:58]
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