Forum logs for 20 Oct 2019
| trinque: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-19-oct-2019#2566274 << the figure of 1-300k came from you. you're mentally ill. | [00:32] |
| trinque: | feh. | [00:33] |
| trinque: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946907 << ^ | [00:33] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 14:27:33 asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946817 << if trinque thinks can produce useful ic of whatever variety for <=100k, oughta do it himself and make fabulous dough , and put entire current set of practitioners outta biz. | [00:33] |
| BingoBoingo: | Aite, I picked up a cheap (US like price) printer as the hours for the hire a printer shops have passed. Doing another round of proofreading and sanity checking, then printing, then off to the prefectura. | [00:50] |
| trinque: | nice | [00:52] |
| BingoBoingo: | Shoebox size HP laser thing. 125 with a ream of paper. I hoped to never need to own a printer again, but I also don't want to lose the legal race for being too cheap to get a damned printer. | [00:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience. | [03:39] |
| BingoBoingo: | No waiting in line. My report was taken with gravity. Another sectionnal will be covering the investigation because I went to the one that covers my domicile rather than the scene of the crime. | [03:42] |
| BingoBoingo: | The whole thing took 30 or 40 minutes even with the officer's pained typing. Local police roll their IT on Ubuntu... | [03:43] |
| BingoBoingo: | And, most surpring of all coming from the US... The police were polite. | [03:44] |
| BingoBoingo: | The seccional covering the most most populated Barrio of the city at midnight on a Saturday... Was quiet | [03:51] |
| diana_coman: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947023 - good to hear that! | [07:18] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience. | [07:18] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946955 << this is actually pretty neat. talk to all of them, it's basically free business training for you, worth 1-2 months of us "college education" per sit. | [07:23] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 15:12:39 BingoBoingo: No lawyer that bit yesterday's pitch wants any money for the initial sit down to talk about the case. The water here is rich with blood the doesn't taste like mine. | [07:23] |
| mp_en_viaje: | you just don' throw that kinda thing away. | [07:23] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946968 << for some reason i thought the foundation had equity. | [07:25] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 15:20:58 mod6: Here's what you should do, perhaps beforehand pay back the debt holders. Pay S.NSA, pay the foundation any others. | [07:25] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946970 << yes, yes, it's settled, it's settled. mod6 is just doing his trademark wanna-be friends to all things, running in all directions at once sorta deal. | [07:25] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 15:21:55 asciilifeform: mod6: the very idea of continuing to sell coin from piz piggy in order ton pay extortion to a scam latech, is batshit beyond contemplation. if BingoBoingo bungles lawsuit and we gotta evacuate him so he aint sold for organs -- then evacuate. but wtf already, nomoar to latech, can this q be settled definitively 1ce and for all time ? | [07:25] |
| mp_en_viaje: | he just wants everyhing to be well, which, other than not ever working in practice is a great idea in theory. | [07:26] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946981 << if by contingency basis you mean, lawyer makes his end out of whatever settlement / judgement he manages, this is not what you ever want. i am aware personal injury cases in the us notoriously work in this manner -- but this is because the object of personal injury cases is the same moron that's also the object of the [http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/?b=bail%20bon | [07:30] |
| mp_en_viaje: | ds&e=man#select][paycheck cashing]/advancing "business", the lottery scratch ticket, and etcetera. | [07:30] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 15:25:35 BingoBoingo: I have my doubts the case will be taken on a strictly contingency basis, but as continued communications from latecho have further opened their breaches.. it may be possible to get a lawyer who wants to do this on contingency. | [07:30] |
| mp_en_viaje: | its like hiring a plastic surgeon to fill up your tits and promise to pay him a % of all the money you realise sucking cock thenceforth. no prostitute, however slow, is dumb enough for that deal, it takes a male to do something quite as dumb. | [07:31] |
| mp_en_viaje: | lawyer's skilled labour, like the barber or the gardner. you don't pay the gardner 1 night/month with your wife in exchange for the roses he gave you to give her on your first date you don't pay the barber one in twelve chicks you pick up in bars with his haircut, what the fuck. fair rate for fair labour and that's that -- and if it's not worth paying, guess what ? it's also not worth doing. | [07:32] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946982 << you know, as a general point and not necessarily presented as a consideration here -- uprooting her life is the pons asinorum for whoredom in females. if she's not willing to leave everything behind and follow, naked to the ends of the world, she's a mommy not a whore. | [07:35] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 15:25:51 BingoBoingo: mod6: Staying or not staying is still up in the air. | [07:35] |
| mp_en_viaje: | following the logic, if what you're trying to do is build something, a mommy's about as useful to you as a dude. think it through, you can fuck the dude in the ass just as well as her -- better, allegedly, though i've never tried the fags do claim once you go boybutt you don't go back. and just as allegedly it's a lot more fun to suck dick than clit -- which incidentally i can well see, theoretically, there's more to it if nothi | [07:37] |
| mp_en_viaje: | ng else. | [07:37] |
| mp_en_viaje: | dude tryna build things entourage-ing self with mommies is dumber than the faggots, no doubt about it. | [07:37] |
| mp_en_viaje: | meanwhile if you aim to simply dissolve back into the background radiation, by all means, latch on to one -- doesn't even matter which, anyways, the workings of the genetics involved are too complicated for whatever analysis you could come up with -- and there you go, done. | [07:40] |
| mp_en_viaje: | but, suffice it to say there's a very good reason i picked nicole up naked at the airport in a country she never heard of before, and that reason ain't my jollies. not that it hurts the jollying any, but i'm way too modest and wary of vainglory to make my enjoyment the center of policy. | [07:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946993 << bwahahaha. its true, too. | [07:50] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 15:29:36 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, everyone there talks like faggots. | [07:50] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947007 << shocking! | [07:57] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 15:35:03 BingoBoingo: One thing I have learned this week is that when I let my inner MP simulator handle heathen interactions instead of the Rube that is myself, things tend to work better. | [07:57] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947010 << you just love your inner rube more, is all. keep getting seduced off road. | [07:58] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 15:35:52 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: currently asciilifeform suspects that BingoBoingo's 'mp simulator' is better than asciilifeform's if it were used moar, we'd have better results. mine still needs work. | [07:58] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947022 << man, i've not owned a printer in YEARS. it's so fucking great! almost as good as being rid of email. | [07:59] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 21:58:46 BingoBoingo: Shoebox size HP laser thing. 125 with a ream of paper. I hoped to never need to own a printer again, but I also don't want to lose the legal race for being too cheap to get a damned printer. | [07:59] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947020 << you know, i just went hands in pockets. you really don't need the papering of police at this stage in any strict sense. i suppose it saves on handwriting. | [08:01] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 21:52:09 BingoBoingo: Aite, I picked up a cheap (US like price) printer as the hours for the hire a printer shops have passed. Doing another round of proofreading and sanity checking, then printing, then off to the prefectura. | [08:01] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947016 << man, transforming what alf says back into what he's talking about is serious arcana, what the hell, his output is only english in the sense | base64 is plaintext. | [08:03] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 21:34:10 trinque: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-19-oct-2019#2566274 << the figure of 1-300k came from you. you're mentally ill. | [08:03] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947023 << hey, wd! | [08:05] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience. | [08:05] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947027 << you see the things you learn, once you start working the street ? getting out of the house's a winning move, for srs. | [08:05] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 00:52:31 BingoBoingo: The seccional covering the most most populated Barrio of the city at midnight on a Saturday... Was quiet | [08:05] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947048 << to likbez this matter : in terms of the human herd's diversity, variety, marginal furtherance of the exploration of the available genetic space, interestingness, quality, however you'd call it -- the marginal quantum produced by the average father is about the same (really, slighty under) the marginal quantum produced by the average wayward proton. | [09:31] |
| mp_en_viaje: | (we're not counting truly powerful things like viruses and such here because, well... how the fuck are you gonna compete with that. they invented the fucking mitochondrion for crying out loud, what the fuck have you done.) | [09:31] |
| mp_en_viaje: | to put it in the plainest terms : your deciding to be a father, and a proton's hitting earth are very comparable in terms of productivity. they'll do about as much, one as the other, just like "deciding" to be a beautician and "choosing" a career in waitressing will result in very comparable yearly tax returns. | [09:31] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 04:41:30 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile if you aim to simply dissolve back into the background radiation, by all means, latch on to one -- doesn't even matter which, anyways, the workings of the genetics involved are too complicated for whatever analysis you could come up with -- and there you go, [http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/?b=cine%20se%20casatoreste&e=mici#select][done | [09:31] |
| mp_en_viaje: | the average energy of such a proton is well measured, they peak around 0.3 GeV, which is to say ~5e−11 J, or in more everyday terms 0.0000000000000000139 kWh. | [09:31] |
| mp_en_viaje: | that's the average value of fatherhood, in the grand scheme of things : the kWh retails for a coupla cents, meaning your contribution's roughly whatever you get once you're done dividing two cents to seventeen zeroes. | [09:31] |
| mp_en_viaje: | that's the budget available balance that out with whatever it's costing you, and there you go. women do it because, generally, it costs them a negative. you do it when your subjectively expected lifetime value comes under a quadrillionth of two cents. | [09:31] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/liget-jo-legosszetettebbszohosszusagvilagrekorddonteskenyszerneurozistunetegyuttesmegnyilvanulasfejleszthetosegvizsgalataitokrol/ << Trilema -- Liget, j ? Legsszetettebbszhosszsgvilgrekorddntsknyszerneurzistnetegyttesmegnyilvnulsfejleszthetsgvizsglataitokrl! | [10:37] |
| mp_en_viaje: | oh, and to spell out that other thing : re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947023 your principal gain is that when you go to sit down with laywers later, and you tell them what happened and what you did so far, on that basis your odds of being taken for a rube drop from the usual 80% ot well under 1% | [10:51] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience. | [10:51] |
| mp_en_viaje: | in this as in all other things, 2nd order effects and indirect results well overthelm the direct. | [10:52] |
| mp_en_viaje: | this also has entirely nothing to do with it being "the correct thing to do" in the terms bois represent correctness, "does SHE want me to go there say hi to her" / "is it correct in the system's own view" bla bla. | [10:53] |
| mp_en_viaje: | it works because it's the correct thing to do from the subjective perspective and that always betrays a certain thing to the observer. | [10:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | mp_en_viaje: Well they didn't take what I printed. I printed because while my Spanish is much stronger, I wanted precision. And based on my previous interactions with Uruguayos at desks, I had rather low expectations. | [13:13] |
| * BingoBoingo | should also be picking up business cards Monday. The variants with and without phone number both include a GPG keyid line. | [13:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | I will say yesterday the phrase "man of the future" was bouncing around in my head quite a bit. | [13:51] |
| BingoBoingo: | The printing however did serve. I underplayed my confidence with the spanish language at the police station so that someone would read the whole narrative of suckage and understand something reportable is occurring. | [14:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | Either theft under art 340 or theft of things of minor value under art 342 because I did observe servers running in an uncooled datacenter hall, an event that provides knowledge leaving me incapable of saying certainly whether the severs have any remaining value or not even if they do appear to function. | [14:05] |
| BingoBoingo: | And I emphasized the totality of events demonstrating the basement closet, as they operate it, is an unfit place to keep IT equipment. | [14:07] |
| BingoBoingo: | It isn't the one failure they want to hide behind. It is the several failures. | [14:09] |
| BingoBoingo: | Police station even had a random old man civilian chilling in the lobby 1950's style. Story is he's someone's dad, but the chitchat really helped the couple minutes of wait pass while someone of sufficient rank to take a report was found. | [14:13] |
| BingoBoingo: | Anyways, just fired off the dispatch to the derps: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MOUg << attn mod6 asciilifeform | [14:38] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947038 << Point taken | [14:47] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 04:31:59 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946981 << if by contingency basis you mean, lawyer makes his end out of whatever settlement / judgement he manages, this is not what you ever want. i am aware personal injury cases in the us notoriously work in this manner -- but this is because the object of personal injury cases is the same moron that's also the object of the [http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicke | [14:47] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947043 << She is amenable to having her life uprooted. The next few days/weeks are going to determine how I feel about Uruguay in the mid term, which is less important than whether or not a datacenter is found that bites on my pitch for a technician gig. | [14:49] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 04:36:31 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946982 << you know, as a general point and not necessarily presented as a consideration here -- uprooting her life is the pons asinorum for whoredom in females. if she's not willing to leave everything behind and follow, naked to the ends of the world, she's a mommy not a whore. | [14:49] |
| BingoBoingo: | The prospect actually excites her. But when the time to actually do it comes, we'll see. | [15:12] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946864 << asciilifeform: Before I delay on this any further, how about 25% of shared revenue to me. You commit implement my account setup recipe as a bash script. You commit to a timeline for producing a mechanical contact churner. You make yourself available to do shared setups when I am not available so I do things like take the occasional weekend off to go to the woods. You produce a | [15:26] |
| BingoBoingo: | press of current mp-wp for comparison to the one I produce and commit to offering it for download on the main site for your venture in at from at least one page describing the shared hosting offering. | [15:27] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 12:33:34 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you could actually get 100% of the shared hosting revenues -- in exch for colo rate for the req'd machine, if you like. ( asciilifeform still baking the entire thing, as specced by mp_en_viaje , doing a 'measure 7 time, cut 1nce' but no one will be invoiced for anyffin until passes criticism. ) | [15:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: I want you to get most of the shared hosting gravy and I propose the incentives bring your superior tech talents to target gathering the gravy. Whether you go to a full cabinet quickly or not, I would like to see you explore getting the 1 G pipe sooner rather than later if the current intro pipe performs. | [15:27] |
| * asciilifeform | ate log. will skip the flamebaits, but answer pressing q's, hands still quite full. | [15:40] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i expect i'll get full tower sooner rather than later, it's still ridic. cheap for what it is. started with half strictly because unsure re who/how many will dare to live there, and asciilifeform needs rack space for self regardless. | [15:42] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: congrats on getting that rubber stamp btw. | [15:42] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: proprietor informed that upgrade of tower is logistically painless, simply will give key to the upper half. | [15:43] |
| asciilifeform: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947087 << loox proper to asciilifeform but before sending, let mp weigh in | [15:45] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 11:40:04 BingoBoingo: Anyways, just fired off the dispatch to the derps: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MOUg << attn mod6 asciilifeform | [15:45] |
| asciilifeform: | oh nm, sent already | [15:45] |
| * asciilifeform | goes for 2nd pass of log, and tea | [15:45] |
| asciilifeform: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947093 << BingoBoingo , iirc i already said, this is strictly l1/l2 setup. (and i'm in favour of mp's 'give noobs phree year' ftr. but they gotta get in wot.) | [15:47] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 12:28:19 BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946864 << asciilifeform: Before I delay on this any further, how about 25% of shared revenue to me. You commit implement my account setup recipe as a bash script. You commit to a timeline for producing a mechanical contact churner. You make yourself available to do shared setups when I am not available so I do things like take the occasional weekend off to go to th | [15:47] |
| * asciilifeform | to genuine tea, brb | [15:51] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: I understand the gotta get in the WoT aspect. There's also the gotta expand the WoT aspect as well. | [16:16] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: so far asciilifeform is a certified f-grade dunce at 'expand wot', repeatedly sent back to kindergarten. still it gotta be expanded. | [16:48] |
| asciilifeform: | ( are any of asciilifeform's prev. wot inductees still alive ? looking at notes, seems they all flunked. e.g. laddel. ) | [16:49] |
| asciilifeform: | ( before this slips into the sands -- is pretty interesting... the 2 fellas broke off entirely ? ) | [16:51] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-19 01:49:27 deedbot: trinque unrated ben_vulpes. | [16:51] |
| BingoBoingo: | Still this is going to be the step requiring action. If you can put something like the fetlife crawler together, I am willing to help with the payload, and I suspect other folks are as well. | [16:52] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: imho this oughta be done -- but ~after~ the subset of l1 that wants in, is properly serviced and housed and then i get that Gb/s pipe. | [16:55] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: ftr asciilifeform's next agenda item, after cost sheet , is to put the logger back into service. 'ddos magnet', get some genuine picture of what this pipe can stand. | [16:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, kind why I want a timeline. Even if you put its operation X months out, I want to see it in the plan. | [16:57] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i'ma publish plans and put to criticism. ( also have buncha photographies in queue for likbez promised to diana_coman , 'how to rack' . ) | [16:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: ty | [16:58] |
| asciilifeform: | btw likbez note for other rack people -- it is ~very~ difficult to rack anyffin large/hefty w/out 2 pairs of hands. | [16:59] |
| asciilifeform: | even w/ that forklift they had, it dun actually make so much diff | [17:00] |
| BingoBoingo: | I was about to ask... | [17:00] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i ended up using the lift as a lappy table, and instead gurl as extra hands, worked 9000x better than 'alone + lift' | [17:02] |
| * BingoBoingo | did read, reread, cut, and reread dispatch to derps before sending. At this point though it seems everything to be said has been said. Maximum pressure to derps, a case where the initiative is already in hand to the lawyer folk. | [17:02] |
| trinque: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947111 << not at all. I like the fellow very much. | [17:03] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 13:52:57 asciilifeform: ( before this slips into the sands -- is pretty interesting... the 2 fellas broke off entirely ? ) | [17:03] |
| trinque: | I am however going forward with a strict interpretation of my ratings as my routing table, and fella doesn't want to engage himself in the republic. I'm just reflecting that fact. | [17:03] |
| trinque: | flipping it around, otherwise I'm saying "go see this fella about republican matters" and then ??? | [17:04] |
| * asciilifeform | respects trinque's 'my, fuck y'all, wot' . | [17:04] |
| trinque: | or take asciilifeform. I respect him greatly, but I understand him zilch. maybe later that changes, but for now, honesty uber alles | [17:05] |
| asciilifeform: | trinque: this is exactly per wot usermanual, i've no disagreement . | [17:05] |
| BingoBoingo: | trinque: This is understandable, and seems a very meausured application of WoT. My outgoing ratings are probably overdue for another read and revision soon. | [17:07] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: re meatspace propagandism -- my 1st 'victim', sales critter, skipped out on 'date'. i'ma retry w/ his younger assistant, he seemed quasi-enlightened | [17:08] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well you can only hook the fish that bite. | [17:13] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: maybe it is brazen of asciilifeform , who caught 0 edible 'fish', to start w/ giants of the ocean depths, but i really want'em in. even 1. | [17:14] |
| BingoBoingo: | Even if you are engaged in Missouri style "noodling" where you shove your hand in the fish's mouth until it is sufficiently subdued to become filets. | [17:14] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: didja at any point try to induct the less-retarded latech folx (who nao gone) ? | [17:15] |
| asciilifeform: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947073 << i cannot resist to ask : hungarian kbd lacks space bar ? or they missed out on that great 12th c. invention, the whitespace ? how did this happen, mp_en_viaje ? | [17:18] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 07:38:57 feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/liget-jo-legosszetettebbszohosszusagvilagrekorddonteskenyszerneurozistunetegyuttesmegnyilvanulasfejleszthetosegvizsgalataitokrol/ << Trilema -- Liget, j ? Legsszetettebbszhosszsgvilgrekorddntsknyszerneurzistnetegyttesmegnyilvnulsfejleszthetsgvizsglataitokrl! | [17:18] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: I got interest but not commitment. Your visit and the alien qualities that made hardware desirable or useless to us got some interest. In retrospect it seems to have never escaped the chitchat loop which is a stong insulating force among the locals. | [17:18] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: american folx get so readily wedged in 'chitchat loop' , it boggles the mind. | [17:18] |
| asciilifeform: | 'tell me again about the waters of your home world!'(tm)(r)(f. herbert) | [17:19] |
| BingoBoingo: | Folks from Venezuela seem capable of breaking out momentarily and digesting that socialism wrecks everywhere, simply at different speeds as places fall from different heights. | [17:20] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: 1 other find : the dc has, apparently , a scrap/graveyard. which consists mostly of... working irons. and apparently they've no ready buyers for it, nor stoop to using by own self. i'ma discuss it at the next meat session. | [17:21] |
| BingoBoingo: | Bicycle guy suggested I "Just go home", Explained the US isn't any better. It just sparkles more as it falls. | [17:21] |
| asciilifeform: | 'how coudlja not want to return to holy miamistan!' ? | [17:23] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: With the scrapyard thing you probably want to have the list of what in particular interests you, lest you end up receiving constant junk offers. | [17:23] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: 'junk offers' is least on list of prospective headaches. | [17:24] |
| asciilifeform: | let'em offer. | [17:24] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, maybe one of the uncommon last print DEC Alphas is in the pile. | [17:25] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i did not get chance to study the pile in detail, but it was of quite respectable size, easily coupla tonnes. | [17:25] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i dun see wai they wouldn't let it go if i were to offer moar than the gold extractors pay but this is presently in back of queue . | [17:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | In the US, my suspicion is that if they don't want to part with them it is for accounting/tax reasons. | [17:28] |
| asciilifeform: | will find out. | [17:28] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: oddly i dun recall seeing anyffin similar at latech. | [17:28] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: They apparently had some machines trapped in the Freezone regime operation. Impossible to extract without customs wank. | [17:29] |
| mp_en_viaje: | oh god. | [17:30] |
| BingoBoingo: | Because the space inside the freezone wank regime is at the same time Uruguay and not Uruguay. | [17:30] |
| mp_en_viaje: | what a great relaxing day, i'm fucking exhausted. | [17:30] |
| BingoBoingo: | mp_en_viaje: Very good to hear | [17:30] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: prague ? | [17:31] |
| mp_en_viaje: | not yet | [17:31] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: a++ camera btw. imho considerably + vs prev. | [17:33] |
| mp_en_viaje: | yeh, i agree. they retail for ~same 500 bux, but i'd say this is 2x the other | [17:34] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: what does it weigh ? | [17:34] |
| mp_en_viaje: | exactly same, within 1% | [17:34] |
| mp_en_viaje: | pretty much same chassis, same battery/sd card assemblage, altogether very similar object | [17:34] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: i got last yr the (also sony, i like'em) 'a6000', but it aint quite pocket-sized | [17:35] |
| mp_en_viaje: | smaller sensor therefore more optics is the tradeoff (elementarily if your final image is 50 rather than 100 m2, then in the same m3 volume you can fit ~1.5x the lenses) | [17:35] |
| mp_en_viaje: | i suspect the ultimate driver being that this smaller sensor is actually way the fuck denser than the other larger. | [17:36] |
| mp_en_viaje: | they figured out how to layer the photodiodes by frequency or some shit, nfi, but it works evidently. | [17:36] |
| asciilifeform: | ( 'a6000' in fact goes in adult pocket if one unscrews the lens, but it's headache . the plus is that can use adult lenses. ) | [17:36] |
| mp_en_viaje: | asciilifeform, i dunno that web publishing drinks even 33% of the well of compacts. to go dslr... well... so you get an image 3x as good say, which once scaled for web becomes... same thing. | [17:37] |
| mp_en_viaje: | if i dtpd or something, if trilema was an old school paper mag... | [17:37] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: i usually put out 640x480, lolyes. but find it useful to have from what to cut, hence moar pixels aint necessarily imho a waste. | [17:37] |
| mp_en_viaje: | i am using atm a 1024px format which is autoscaled for 560 wide inline but i suspect people like to be able to click the inlines for 4x size | [17:38] |
| mp_en_viaje: | another nice thing is that ye olde rx was really 16:9 now we're back to 4:3, which imo a gain. | [17:38] |
| * asciilifeform | often looks at mp_en_viaje's fullsize photos, read restaurant menus etc | [17:39] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947092 << word. | [17:40] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 12:13:44 BingoBoingo: The prospect actually excites her. But when the time to actually do it comes, we'll see. | [17:40] |
| mp_en_viaje: | asciilifeform, for me, personally, the ubiquity and accessibility of the item are 99% of its utility. if it were even slightly bulkier i'd prolly opt out of 50% or more of the pics i take. | [17:41] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: you're entirely right : i find myself still using the old soapbox to this day | [17:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | before had actually half-weight, 70% volume even tinier thing. fit in a trained asshole. | [17:42] |
| asciilifeform: | the '6000' mostly lives in its tripod, in torture room, sadly. | [17:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | only reason i finally broke down and got a tripod was that it was cheap, and i already have a pile of car platform machinery, so what's it hurt. | [17:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | curious how long till i actually use it. | [17:43] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: ever try using that riding crop as monopod ? | [17:43] |
| mp_en_viaje: | um... how ?! | [17:43] |
| asciilifeform: | they sell clamp thing that goes around arbitrary stick. | [17:44] |
| mp_en_viaje: | but i mean, it's a crop. it's flexible. | [17:44] |
| asciilifeform: | oh hm. | [17:44] |
| * asciilifeform | did not know this. | [17:44] |
| asciilifeform: | then nm. | [17:44] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947134 << not brazen. | [17:48] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 14:15:43 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: maybe it is brazen of asciilifeform , who caught 0 edible 'fish', to start w/ giants of the ocean depths, but i really want'em in. even 1. | [17:48] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947137 << agglutinative language this is what you get. | [17:48] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-20 14:19:21 asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947073 << i cannot resist to ask : hungarian kbd lacks space bar ? or they missed out on that great 12th c. invention, the whitespace ? how did this happen, mp_en_viaje ? | [17:48] |
| asciilifeform: | unrelated q for iptronix gurus : wai does traceroute to diana_coman's www , show a long-dead rubbish domain on last hop ? ( netsideproductions.com ) ? is this config issue somewhere ? (afaik harmless, but i'd like to know why it happens) | [17:48] |
| mp_en_viaje: | asciilifeform, there's no relation between machine names (what you see in traceroute) and websites as such. | [17:49] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: right, but seems like there's an ancient never-flushed cache somewhere ? | [17:49] |
| mp_en_viaje: | people ~never change the machine names websites come and go. so i'd say 1/3 to 1/2 of the internet's like that. | [17:50] |
| asciilifeform: | item. (from asciilifeform's desk) | [17:50] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: re agglutinatives -- turks, jp, also, but they have human-sized words.. | [17:52] |
| mp_en_viaje: | yeswell | [17:53] |
| mp_en_viaje: | all words are human sized | [17:53] |
| mp_en_viaje: | for some human sizes | [17:53] |
| * asciilifeform | never did hungarian yet, but suspects it is pronounced jp-style, i.e. that megalith turns into what white man would think of as words. | [17:54] |
| mp_en_viaje: | as hanbot_abroad aptly put it, "these people belong with a snaggletooth and a viking helmet, holding an axe, wtf are they doing pretending to like, euro dress and shit, it's the joke of all time" | [17:54] |
| mp_en_viaje: | i truly can't imagine why fantasy writers keep "inventing" derpy orc langs and shit. could very well just use hungarian. | [17:54] |
| asciilifeform: | ^ | [17:54] |
| * asciilifeform | cannot help but respect some the hungarians, they fought like berserkers even after berlin fell | [17:55] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2019/10/20/how-my-blog-moved-north-to-the-usa/ << Ossa Sepia -- How My Blog Moved North (to the USA) | [19:07] |
| * asciilifeform | grabs that pcap | [19:09] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: see at the bottom some speed tests re current ossabot location too | [19:14] |
| * asciilifeform | still reading... | [19:14] |
| diana_coman: | re pcap honestly, that's not much of an attack as far as I can tell but anyways. | [19:14] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: verily | [19:14] |
| asciilifeform: | i was curious of-what it was made tho. | [19:15] |
| diana_coman: | sure + at any rate, it belongs published, why not ftr gathering all links and everything after this time ate up quite a few hours, ugh. | [19:15] |
| * diana_coman | eyes the pile of isp-talks-emails that will take even longer to write-up | [19:16] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: before you go back to these -- is there a large file i can wget-test with from here , in ossasepia ? i'm curious re whether oceanic pipe is limit, or the speed of the rk ssd | [19:17] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: larger than the 86MB I used for testing? | [19:17] |
| asciilifeform: | is this 1 publicly httpized on ossasepia.com ? | [19:18] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: yep it's http://www.ossasepia.com/available_resources/bac_data_2004-2010_summer.zip | [19:18] |
| asciilifeform: | danke schon diana_coman | [19:18] |
| * asciilifeform | tests.. | [19:18] |
| diana_coman: | yw | [19:18] |
| asciilifeform: | 2.90 MB/s from my desk. | [19:19] |
| asciilifeform: | this appears to be rate-limited by rk ssd. | [19:19] |
| asciilifeform: | i'ma put in 'apu1' w/ primo samsung msata later this wk, for logger, will make it available for similar test. | [19:20] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: hm, I suppose given the sad state of arm-as-testing-ground, I should even re-think whether rk is best home for blog though honestly for what I need it so far strictly re blog it wasn't any particular trouble otherwise | [19:21] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: didja ever make a note of what sorta throughput same item had at piz ? | [19:22] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: no, I didn't (and yes, I should have written it down). | [19:22] |
| asciilifeform: | on a good day i got ~2MB/s from dulap. (peak). | [19:22] |
| BingoBoingo: | Commie scum are out on the street in force today. | [19:23] |
| asciilifeform: | i'ma carry out test where iron can be ruled out as limiting reactant, as soon as i get chance. | [19:24] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: currently your box looks like this. it'll be sat down on iron DIN rail w/ additional forced air when i put this in, it is still snailing its way through the mails. | [19:32] |
| diana_coman: | asciilifeform: heh, the cute&lonely rk that could! | [19:33] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: the move will involve ~30 seconds of down time, we will schedule it together prior to any movement. | [19:33] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: that thing is on insulator pedestal, under it is a 3mm steel sliding plinth. the temp in the dc is a comfortable ~20C when i last measured. (surprisingly, very quiet vs latech's, they have civilized freon cooling, entire back lot fulla chiller towers. and, interestingly, coupla thou. litres of genuine pre-ban halon 1301 for fire suppression.) | [19:36] |
| diana_coman: | works for now I'd say the main focus is on that business plan fwiw I would totally pay asciilifeform for the hosting right from the start, can calc what it amounts too once the data is published and plan is made. | [19:38] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2019-10-18 13:08:52 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I am all for hosting it with asciilifeform but tbh I would very much want him to publish an actual business plan on his blog. | [19:38] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: presently occupied with ^ . | [19:38] |
| mp_en_viaje: | trinque, so for all the discussion of the past few days, i still don't have basic answers here. can i send hour-ish small payments via deedbot now ? if not know, do i know starting when ? | [19:39] |
| mp_en_viaje: | in other news i might run the blog with the most linguistically varied spam. 30+ diff langs, i think of those i speak or visited only latin's missing. | [20:04] |
| mp_en_viaje: | i wonder if anyoen gets latin spam. | [20:04] |
| diana_coman: | mp_en_viaje: if the "lorem ipsum dolor..." counts, then yes. | [20:09] |
| mp_en_viaje: | i suppose that should count huh. i got latin also / | [20:10] |
| * BingoBoingo | hasn't seen Thai language spam in quite a while | [20:41] |
| mp_en_viaje: | ลงประกาศ ลงประกาศฟรี โฆษณาฟรี โฆษณาสินค้าฟรี โฆษณาของมือสอง ประกาศขายของมือสอง ประกาศขายสินค้าฟรี บริการลงประกาศฟรี โปรโมทสินค้าฟรี คลิกที่นี่ลงประกาศ | [21:44] |
| mp_en_viaje: | ฟรี ลงโฆษณาฟรี โฆษณาสินค้าฟรี โฆษณาของมือสอง ลงประกาศขายฟรี ประกาศขายของมือสอง ประกาศขายสินค้าฟรี บริการลงประกาศฟรี โปรโมทสินค้าฟรี คลิกที่นี่ << just for you BingoBo | [21:44] |
| mp_en_viaje: | ingo | [21:44] |
| BingoBoingo: | lol | [21:45] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/in-a-dead-end-world-in-an-erthetetlen-town-west-end-girls/ << Trilema -- In a dead-end world, in an rthetetlen town... West End Girls. | [22:02] |
| feedbot: | http://qntra.net/2019/10/airstip-one-begins-implementing-no-deal-brexit-plans/ << Qntra -- Airstip One Begins Implementing "No Deal" Brexit Plans | [22:49] |
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