Forum logs for 17 Oct 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
BingoBoingo: lololololol [00:10]
asciilifeform: relatedly, asciilifeform turned over a stone and saw a great many worms, none of them in any way remarkable. [01:00]
BingoBoingo: The last time I did that there was a grub with the worms [01:50]
BingoBoingo: !!Up vik2839 [01:54]
deedbot: vik2839 voiced for 30 minutes. [01:54]
jurov: slovakia too: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/crypto-failure-cripples-millions-of-high-security-keys-750k-estonian-ids/?amp=1 [01:55]
jurov: "The flaw resides in the Infineon-developed RSA Library version v1.02.013, specifically within an algorithm it implements for RSA primes generation. " [01:59]
jurov: mod6: ben_vulpes: shall i renew therealbitcoin.org/com using foundation funds? [02:05]
mircea_popescu: oh i see, "conspiracy theories" is it. [02:06]
mircea_popescu: schmucks. [02:06]
BingoBoingo: "You could now go to court and deny that it was you that signed something—there would be no way to prove it, because theoretically, anyone could have worked out your private key." << WTF Mate? [05:34]
phf: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2017/10/16/the-russian-cryptoruble-story-whats-actually-happening-here/ Russian crypto currency with Russian cryptography [07:43]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i have nfi, apparently the idiotreich by now imagines i have to make the case, not it. [08:41]
mircea_popescu: phf who the fuck is some tool named david know or have to say about "ruble" anyway [08:41]
mircea_popescu: anyway, let's briefly revisit the http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-16-oct-2017#2350979 akamai story to establish some points of republican accounting. [08:42]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-16 19:42 mircea_popescu: but since we're doing this : lewin's "50k competition business idea" runs a quarter million boxes in something like a coupal thousand dcs. to compare and contrast with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724349 [08:42]
mircea_popescu: so, this entity has Gross Receipts on the level of about 2.5bn, for simplicity. [08:43]
mircea_popescu: Gross Margin is specifically what's left of revenue (aka GR) once you substract the capital costs. that's maintenance, amortization, scl. [08:43]
mircea_popescu: possibly something like 50% GM makes sense, at least at the level of precision contemplated here. it's not so far off to say that a) the lifetime of a box is a year b) the lifetime cost of a box is about 5k and c) there are no other capital goods in akamai. [08:44]
mircea_popescu: these are all gross approximations, of course, but not really THAT far off. [08:45]
mircea_popescu: Net Margin is what's left of the GM once all human costs have been substracted. this includes all salaries, ALL TAX, compliance, etcetera. [08:45]
mircea_popescu: because no, as a point of republican ideology no tax is anything other than a salary. [08:46]
mircea_popescu: and that's about the whole story, really. [08:46]
mircea_popescu: davout ^ [08:46]
mircea_popescu: (and in other lulz : http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/akam now try and find their fucking annual reports, and when the link 404s think to yourself that hey, this is perfectly fine, after all it's nasdaq, a perfectly legitimate scamsite, because pantsuit says so! for ourdemocracy vorwarts!!!) [08:49]
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is nasdaq.com linking to companyspotlight.com that seo-redirects to orderanualreports.com any fucking different from randomscamsite.lol redirecting to fakeoffers.hurr redirecting to 419emergency.site ? [08:50]
mircea_popescu: but let's talk instead of what proof i have that the proof there displayed is proving anything, amirite. [08:51]
mircea_popescu: all dem toxicfax an whatnot. [08:51]
mircea_popescu: (oh and since we're on usg tools : nominum, nsa's shell company used in the "community consensus" building of the reformed dns system etc, ended up parked in akamai's basement for "an undisclosed amount" earlier this year. which is how these work and why they exist in the first place.) [08:58]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-17#1725950 << hilarious homogoogletranslaticus : 'we know that there are certain bookmark mechanisms in this cryptography' [09:30]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 11:43 phf: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2017/10/16/the-russian-cryptoruble-story-whats-actually-happening-here/ Russian crypto currency with Russian cryptography [09:30]
asciilifeform: orig of course was 'закладки' [09:30]
asciilifeform: in this case, of course, logicbomb [09:31]
asciilifeform: in other thefts, 'The researchers went on to find 15 factorizable keys used for TLS. Strangely, almost all of them contain the string "SCADA" in the common name field.' [09:36]
asciilifeform: 'researchers' didjaknow. [09:36]
asciilifeform: !#s scada [09:37]
a111: 8 results for "scada", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=scada [09:37]
mircea_popescu: hurr. [09:45]
ben_vulpes: jurov: yes please [09:51]
mod6: Yup, sounds good jurov. Thanks! [10:37]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/asphalt-tango-revisited/ << Trilema - Asphalt Tango, revisited [11:01]
phf: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform i will admit i didn't read the article, original is in ru, various english transcommentaries are no better than this david guy. [11:03]
phf: i figured it's as good as any placeholder for "cryptoruble", but yes, david is a "unix system administrator by day" who looks like this https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/david-gerard-by-pauline-martindale-225x300.jpg, which makes him supremely qualified to comment on russia, bitcoin, technology, economics, … [11:04]
mircea_popescu: i fucking hate fucktards who post web quality pics with "by random schmuky hipster" bylines. [11:05]
phf: actually i'm just going to leave the whole about page here https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/about/ [11:05]
mircea_popescu: lmao. [11:05]
mircea_popescu: it takes a very special sort of tard to buy subdomains off co.uk's blog. [11:06]
mircea_popescu: phf speaking of blogs, here's a trick : https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/david-gerard-by-pauline-martindale.jpg [11:06]
phf: i'd rather look ad david in lower resolution [11:07]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i would expect "his interest in russia" dates from the 90s, back when he was a 39 yo bachelor "looking to expand his dating horizons" [11:07]
phf: “He was previously an award-winning music journalist, and has blogged about music at Rocknerd since 2001. He is a volunteer spokesman for Wikipedia, and is on the board of the RationalMedia Foundation, host of skeptical wiki RationalWiki. Originally from Australia, he lives in east London with his spouse Arkady and their daughter. Until he reinstalled the laptop they were on, he was the proud owner of six Dogecoins.” [11:08]
mircea_popescu: ahaha. [11:08]
mircea_popescu: totally called it. arkady eh. [11:08]
phf: and for those who'd like an even deeper david rabbit hole, https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Gerard and https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Arkady, i am otherwise tapping out. first article of the day, and i've already had enough [11:14]
shinohai: Well thanks phf .... that's enough internet for me today. [11:33]
asciilifeform: ahahaha wat am i reading and why [11:42]
asciilifeform: arkady is a boy's name btw [11:42]
shinohai: https://twitter.com/x0rz/status/919888593958694912 <<< Your first day as a darknet market and you realize those Indians from fivver fucked you. [11:45]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so ? [11:45]
mircea_popescu: shinohai from the same source, https://twitter.com/x0rz/status/920311815124504576 << what's he on about ? of... course they would. [11:49]
shinohai: kek [11:50]
shinohai: In other faulty rng's http://archive.is/Wm4e7 [12:05]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/8noNp/?raw=true [12:06]
shinohai: "Bitcoin Crash is teh REAL Bitcoin, hurr durr" http://archive.is/UXqol [12:54]
shinohai: Brought to you by this scammer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Ayre [12:54]
asciilifeform: 'Ayre plans to build Bodog into a mainstream 21st-century digital entertainment conglomerate. He is noted for his "billionaire bad boy" image yet shrewd business sense.' [13:21]
asciilifeform: and pediwikia Definitely Not Hourly Cocksucker For Usgshills... [13:21]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in orlols, https://archive.is/Bz5MY >> 'The final numbers, announced early the next day, came to exactly 59 dead and 527 wounded, and they haven't been updated since. Of the wounded, not a single person has subsequently died. It appears that the only two options were instant death or swift recovery.' [13:41]
asciilifeform: ( re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722152 ) [13:44]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 01:03 mircea_popescu: well, yes, but then again how many of the 500 will join the choir invisible ? [13:44]
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-17#1725962 <<< ¿qué? [14:01]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 12:46 mircea_popescu: davout ^ [14:01]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, via phf's links, https://archive.is/0Zm7C [14:25]
phf: huh, odd, i thought ed was dead for good [14:25]
asciilifeform: 'He really is a bisexual goth s&m freak with a disabled wife and furry girlfriend, and he got that girlfriend pregnant, while his wife has her own girlfriend. He really is a senior member of Wikipedia - the motherfucking UK media spokesperson and a Checkuser. He is meant to be respectable! He uses his real name in all of this. These are his real photos that he took himself, and has listed for public download. It is very difficult to [14:26]
asciilifeform: find "normal" pictures of him - or Arkady - or "Red Countess" (his (ex)wife). It is just plain and simply impossible to make any fun of him any worse than this. What more could you say that isn't actually true already? David Gerard himself is disappointed that this article doesn't make fun of him more.' [14:26]
shinohai: "I was going to burn this money in front of some homeless people, but this seemed like a bigger waste." [14:27]
shinohai: lol [14:27]
asciilifeform: 'sysadmin on RationalWiki' [14:27]
asciilifeform: phf: it may well be dead, i'm quoting from an archived pg [14:29]
mircea_popescu: " He is noted for his "billionaire bad boy" image yet shrewd business sense." << what the everloving fuck ? [14:53]
mircea_popescu: PSA : hey schmucks -- it's ok to exist without attempting to pretend you're me. seriously now. being MP isn't for everyone. not quite managing to be MP isn't the end of the world. [14:53]
mircea_popescu: jesus christ already. [14:53]
mircea_popescu: davout trying to include you into republican affairs in the only apparently remaining opportunity, ie discussions of accounting reform. [14:55]
mircea_popescu: phf it's been dead for at least a decade. [14:56]
asciilifeform: bonus: https://archive.is/Wlcla << subj. [15:00]
mircea_popescu: https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs/9/91/David_Gerard_wedding_pics.jpg <<< ima use this as the standard illustration of new russia. [15:00]
asciilifeform: d00d is as american as mickey-d afaik [15:01]
mircea_popescu: so ? [15:01]
mircea_popescu: i don't go to school and i kill people. [15:01]
mircea_popescu: whatever, i do what i want. [15:01]
asciilifeform: http://pbfcomics.com/comics/now-showing/ << related. [15:02]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:03]
mircea_popescu: i like how the zebra has a shooster of its own. [15:03]
asciilifeform: http://pbfcomics.com/comics/metamorph-assist/ << recent, apropos. [15:04]
asciilifeform: upstack, in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-17#1725998 is mentioned a https://twitter.com/AlgoVPN , 'Set up a personal IPSEC VPN in the cloud. We are an open source project supported by @trailofbits' , which -- hilariously and not at all secretly -- is nsa contractor [15:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 15:49 mircea_popescu: shinohai from the same source, https://twitter.com/x0rz/status/920311815124504576 << what's he on about ? of... course they would. [15:09]
mircea_popescu: hey, nsa is not teh terrorists. [15:09]
* asciilifeform at one time familiar with subj through direct contact in the saeculum [15:09]
asciilifeform: was working in a salt mine that subcontracted for 'bits' [15:10]
asciilifeform: 'Oct 11 We were denied funding for a rewrite focused on ease of use. Can any of our users help us get funding?' << ahahahahaha [15:11]
asciilifeform: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL5-jkUVQAA-MrL.jpg ^ [15:11]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, https://archive.is/LeUKx#selection-4015.124-4015.211 <<->> http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/#selection-2863.0-2863.4 yet STILL can't come out with "oh ok, whadda ya know, turns out MP owns all teh interwebz". [15:13]
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/65x3G/?raw=true << elsewhere in the reich. ( entomologists only ) [15:14]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A480v/?raw=true [15:16]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it ! [15:16]
mircea_popescu: https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs/6/66/Playboykitty.jpg << who the fuck has doors like that. what is this, a film set ?! [15:23]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anglodwelling have doors like that. i have a set right here. [15:27]
mircea_popescu: nuts. [15:28]
asciilifeform: these microscopic 'hallways', the size of phone booth [15:28]
asciilifeform: doors on 3 side. [15:28]
mircea_popescu: is this how the anglotards have sex then ? they bump into each other at that delicate moment of confuswion when crossind thresholds ? [15:28]
asciilifeform: that item, btw, is not something i've observed anywhere, even in anglotardistan [15:29]
asciilifeform: it seems to exist only in mircea_popescu's argentina [15:29]
mircea_popescu: so i've been for the past 15 minutes reading about the problems of poor people. jesus christ who even gives a twinkling fuck. [15:29]
mircea_popescu: also, teeny scorpions album covers are a problem now ? [15:29]
asciilifeform: waiwat [15:29]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently that ancient picture of a whatever she was, 12 yo mostly naked resulted in some sort of turmoil. [15:31]
asciilifeform: aaa [15:31]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, they had a thing going in the 80s, most all of the slowly-irrelevantizing bands of "classic rock" put out pre-fuck chick covers. [15:32]
mircea_popescu: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Virgin_Killer item [15:32]
mircea_popescu: "In a 2008 interview, Schenker added "We would never again do something like this".[11] The band's former lead guitarist Uli Jon Roth notes that the cover art of the "old Scorpion albums" were "usually done by other people".[10] He has since expressed regret over the original album cover: Looking at that picture today makes me cringe. It was done in the worst possible taste. Back then I was too immature to see that." and bull [15:36]
mircea_popescu: crap. [15:36]
mircea_popescu: people really need to stop paying attention to old twat's "taste" and generally expectations. [15:36]
asciilifeform: 'we regret our foray into being people, and promise to become compliant cockroaches forevermoar' [15:36]
mircea_popescu: whatever, minor band in the later days of a minor subculture. [15:37]
mircea_popescu: Vcalist Klaus Meine explains that the band's penchant for controversial cover art stems from a desire "to go over the edge" and not "to offend some people or make the headlines [as] that would be stupid" << what the fuck does this even mean ? [15:38]
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-17#1726022 <<< lolwut [15:39]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 18:55 mircea_popescu: davout trying to include you into republican affairs in the only apparently remaining opportunity, ie discussions of accounting reform. [15:39]
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only thing that comes to mind is the now famous soviet самокритика, and the significantly less famous but culturally much more important habiot of medieval tards to conduct "religious debates" with the jews, lose miserably, then claim "draw". [15:39]
davout: the akamai thing just didn't make much sense to me [15:40]
mircea_popescu: alrighty. [15:40]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-29#650435 << in other blasts from teh past. [15:42]
a111: Logged on 2014-04-29 22:47 mircea_popescu: !jd mpif [15:42]
asciilifeform: in blasts from the even moar distant past, https://archive.is/SIBFA << yet another diddled konsoomer ciphertron from 1980s [16:39]
asciilifeform: !~later tell hanbot http://thewhet.net appears to be down -- is it in same brother's grave as dulap ? [16:56]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [16:56]
asciilifeform: re dulap : it, mind-bogglingly, is... still up [16:57]
asciilifeform: oh hm, finally dead as of today. [16:58]
asciilifeform: ( do we still say 'died' when a zombie goes back to his grave..? ) [17:01]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-mechanic-2/ << Trilema - The Mechanic [17:18]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [18:49]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5575.0, vol: 9677.78776607 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5570.1, vol: 34213.01771368 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 4251.858, vol: 0.00000000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5580.0, vol: 3633.87767441 | Volume-weighted last average: 5571.85480495 [18:49]
BingoBoingo: "A quick consultation with Satan established that Our Dark Lord and Master doesn't like her much at all. Satan doesn't like furries even though Satan is, himself, a yiffing furry with a Goatlord fursona - Satan is allowed to be a hypocrite because he is Satan." << Not bad, but #trilema sorta raises the bar above this. Oh to go back to binge reading ED 2009 [22:55]
BingoBoingo: *in 2009 [22:55]
BingoBoingo: If only the wikipedos could be banished to a world where snakes are wide instead of long [22:58]
BingoBoingo: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Fan_death [23:06]
BingoBoingo: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Stephen_Paddock << And in recent events [23:25]
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