Forum logs for 17 Feb 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
phf: meanwhile, elsewhere, you can get better forex rate for $100 bills, rather than $20 bills, which basically puts status quo on par with russia in '93 [00:02]
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/16/unwinding-overzealous-invocations-of-tikkun-olam-with-613-mitzvot/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Unwinding overzealous invocations of tikkun olam with 613 mitzvot. [00:02]
ben_vulpes: phf: and argentina ca 2015 [00:06]
phf: in fact ~best~ rate i could find anywhere in the 40km radius came with a plea of "i'll give you even better rate, bra, if you can bring me some more of them $100 bills" [00:07]
phf: ben_vulpes: right, i'm grokking where mp was coming from with "to real man, bring cash to ag, start a forex" [00:10]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7C7B95520ADC55E78642BCADC01CBFDA1CD77E1426BEB7D410D4AE379BFC491A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1453...6589 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '194.190.163.79 (ssh-rsa key from 194.190.163.79 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (misitep2.ihep.su. RU) [00:11]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7C7B95520ADC55E78642BCADC01CBFDA1CD77E1426BEB7D410D4AE379BFC491A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1641...4569 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '194.190.163.79 (ssh-rsa key from 194.190.163.79 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (misitep2.ihep.su. RU) [00:11]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the washing thing is a serious problem. turns out that if no women around, people stop seeing the point. [00:12]
mthreat: people who don't shower in jail/prison are called 'vikings', or another name in Spanish which I forget. There is peer pressure to not stink in there. [00:17]
mircea_popescu: somewhat, yeah. [00:18]
mircea_popescu: depends a lot on how common it is, though. [00:20]
asciilifeform: woah first su blood [00:21]
mircea_popescu: phf i have no confidence in "chemical cronometer" crackpot alfism. notice that there has never existed such a thing as a chemical clock, not even today. it is, i daresay, the earliest application of "quantum computer", this. [00:21]
mircea_popescu: no clockworks this way. [00:21]
asciilifeform: http://ihep.su << inst. of high energy physics, moscow [00:21]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: candle clock, ancient [00:21]
mircea_popescu: candles are not ancient. [00:22]
asciilifeform: point [00:22]
asciilifeform: 'Созданный в 1963 году Государственным комитетом по использованию атомной энергии СССР для проведения исследований фундаментальных свойств материи и законов микромира, ИФВЭ прочно занимает лидирующие позиции в отечественной и мировой нау [00:23]
mircea_popescu: anyway. rate of melting, hardly chemical. [00:23]
mircea_popescu: phf hopefully indian "state" fails within the next few years. [00:24]
mircea_popescu: it was a ridiculous piece of british nonsense about on par with their middle eastern constructions. has no place in sanity. [00:25]
phf: it's the original "helping africa" [00:26]
mircea_popescu: quite. [00:26]
mircea_popescu: and unlike the us, which they "helped" into their present predicament, india has no fat to burn. [00:26]
mircea_popescu: it'll be truly sad when all the indian hipsters discover the hard facts through harder knocks. [00:26]
mircea_popescu: mostly because there's, in spite of all the noise and burbling, just a smattering of ustards. there's about 100x more of them in uttar pradesh alone. [00:27]
mircea_popescu: a pile of ten corpses is not the same thing as a pile of eight hundred. [00:27]
phf: well, it'll be easier for them to hard knock, because hipsters will just go back to farming/fishing because ~father and mother~ did [00:30]
mircea_popescu: that's what you think. [00:30]
phf: i'm in the south, they have many choice words here for uttar pradesh here, when you get them drunk [00:31]
mircea_popescu: tell you what, ben_vulpes 's girl, or for that matter lucy (in disgrace) has no problem doing barefoot-in-mud thing because once+ removed from the grandmothers. [00:31]
mircea_popescu: the daughter of the woman who gave birth in a ditch isn't gonna. with her life. it skips a generation. [00:31]
ben_vulpes: so in light of the triviality with which the TRB node to which mimisbrunnr talks is taken out by even moderately determined actors, i'm considering taking the whole thing down until i have a more robust data collector system in place. [00:32]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, anyone read that splendid piece, late austrian, i think might've been kafka actually, in which a woman fucked in the bushes complains, to no one in particular, that there she is, still taking it with the dust ? [00:33]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: didja try the scheme where your node only talks to trb nodes ? [00:33]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes gotta distribute. there's just no other way. i kinda hinted at it back when, but didn't want to be telling you how to do your shit. anyway : make a half dozen nodes, not one. [00:33]
phf: i see that skip generation here, boys want to transcend fathers, move to Dubai for riches, and if they manage to return (because the contract negotiator was a nice person), switch to plan B. get some nodic lady to take them to the promissed land. [00:33]
mircea_popescu: phf that's btw muslim influence. this is currently the ~only alternative to "blow shit up", the white cow. [00:34]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: now that you mention it [00:34]
mircea_popescu: i lived for months among a group of monkeys who considered me ~divine, because well, chet was there with me. [00:34]
phf: yeap [00:34]
mircea_popescu: they just couldn't comprehend relationship matching their filter but not matching their expectation. how could it!!11 [00:34]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty sure i'm running with malleus [00:36]
ben_vulpes: leastaways that node [00:36]
mircea_popescu: (the divine part came from, not that she was subservient but that we had no substantial disagreements, which to them was precisely the same thing and didn't match their observations among the "truly successful" dudes of the locality (there's a bunch of people who got a fat old bitty from londonderry to move over, funnel some bezzle and build a house-foreigners-and-boat thingee). ) [00:36]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that isn't equivalent! [00:37]
mircea_popescu: ^ [00:37]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: malleus has 0 relation to the item suggested. [00:38]
asciilifeform: what you want is a box that ~only~ talks to a handful of trb nodes. that you operate. [00:39]
asciilifeform: ~these~ talk to outside world. [00:39]
mircea_popescu: nd boxes here is not vps., [00:39]
asciilifeform: honest boxes. [00:40]
phf: there's one boy on the beach, he affected caribbean accent (!!) and just fully committed to the whole kingston bad boy shtick. "ja man", king tubby reggae, the works. they had a going away party for him, because he scored the jack pot. married a homely english girl, who's bringing him back to u.k. [00:40]
mircea_popescu: heh. [00:41]
mircea_popescu: i give it even odds he's going to twink for pay before the five year plan is out. [00:41]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah, my mistake. [00:42]
phf: right, my yoga teacher friend, who's been "friendly" with all the local boys had enough experience in the matter to "hell fucking no am i ever" as far as marrying an indian. they ~expect~ their women to be meak, but they don't have any way of enforcing it, so the dynamic goes straight into bitchy couple mode as soon as there's any hint of "couple" [00:45]
ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-12-jan-2017#2228082 << design i baked (lordship circular) for review: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LAjrq/?raw=true [00:45]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-13 02:53 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1602003 << we do not, afaik, presently have a knob in trb that would enable the 'at you' part of this. [00:45]
ben_vulpes: no rush, i'm going to walk out to 'breakcore mashups' night here in a few minutes anyways. [00:46]
mircea_popescu: enforce schmenforce, for that matter. i do plenty of enforcing in the sense of training, either because girl "doesn't see" why she should x or didn't put enough blood and tears into it. but i've yet to you know, enforce her being meek. that comes fucking naturally, for one thing, and for the other, really, what sane people have to yell at each other ? i've never seen this. [00:46]
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of this, anyone saw city island ? delightful little mistaken identity item very much in the proper commedia dell'arte tradition. with andy garcia though, so myeah. [00:48]
phf: well, i had drink with a group of protestan priests, that, once sloshed, were ranting about the "unfairness": priests study for 8 years, doctors study for 8 years, why don't both have same salaries? "what we need is a bloody revolution" (what like with guns? -- "... no. you mean, like bloody revolution"). what sort of "training" or "sanity" [00:48]
mircea_popescu: didn't you tell them seeing eye dogs also train for years ? [00:49]
* ben_vulpes bbl [00:49]
phf: lol [00:49]
mircea_popescu: well ? and it's DOG YEARS [00:49]
phf: oh, man, "stairwell wit" as the frenchmen say [00:49]
asciilifeform: farm elephant, for moar yearz even [00:49]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only thing that was always abundant throughout the years was years. [00:50]
asciilifeform: in other recent lulz, http://www.weeklystandard.com/decius-unmasked/article/2006623 <<< >>> http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election [00:51]
mircea_popescu: da fuck is "the american idea". i'd very much like to hear this, even as a draft form. [00:53]
mircea_popescu: and this weeklystandard crap is unreadable. [00:59]
mircea_popescu: they really gotta stop passing highschooler essays on a generalized regexp criterion. that's not how writing works. [01:00]
phf: it is good to be outside DC for these exciting times [01:02]
* phf salutes asciilifeform [01:02]
mircea_popescu: phf you gotta start a blog, you know. [01:07]
mircea_popescu: take all the hotties out, get them drunk and smiling at the camera and there's your first article. [01:07]
phf: only so much ranting i can do in logs.. [01:11]
mircea_popescu: it's good to have. formative. [01:12]
mircea_popescu: in the logs you hide behind the statues. [01:12]
phf: i can see that, i was enjoying the status quo though. blog is the necessary next step [01:16]
mircea_popescu: kinda. [01:19]
mircea_popescu: !!up larryth [01:53]
deedbot: larryth voiced for 30 minutes. [01:53]
ben_vulpes: Reuel: please to stop with the join/part spam [02:54]
BingoBoingo: lol, that fakenews weekly standard correction, from "made sentence" to "was employed in sentence making factory" [08:49]
BingoBoingo: How the newspaper of Bush II whitehouse has fallen. [08:51]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/oETeE/?raw=true <<< take 2 [09:09]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [09:09]
thestringpuller: Happy belated b-day mr. BingoBoingo [09:21]
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-16#1614373 << I can't get my node to "stay current". dunno if it's refusing to receive blocks, or just doesn't know to ask for them [09:22]
a111: Logged on 2017-02-16 02:49 hanbot: what's the proper name to ascribe to this super fun phenomenon wherein trb node happily catches up on blocks until 99.x% and then drops connections and stops seeing new blocks after <10mins? [09:22]
shinohai: weird thing is I see mimi ahead of blockchain.info lots of times [09:24]
thestringpuller: i've tried using -connect and -addnode [09:26]
thestringpuller: after it gets current it stops listening for blocks [09:26]
thestringpuller: i just get bunch of tx's into the mempool [09:27]
deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-bible-markup-project/ << Daniel P. Barron - The Bible Markup Project [10:42]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, the dept. of newyorkdeathrayplots continues to delight, https://archive.is/3thme [10:59]
asciilifeform: 'A Florida man has been charged in connection with a plot to bomb Target stores along the East Coast, with hopes that such an attack would force the retailer's stock to plunge and allow him to cheaply buy its stock, federal investigators announced Thursday. ... Barnett offered an unnamed individual -- referred to as a "confidential source" (CS) in the documents -- $10,000 to plant bombs in stores in several states, according to the a [11:00]
asciilifeform: ffidavit ...' [11:00]
mod6: mornin' [11:03]
asciilifeform: hey mod6 [11:03]
mod6: how goes? [11:11]
asciilifeform: was reading ben_vulpes's thing [11:14]
mod6: ah, right on [11:15]
mircea_popescu: cheap bombing campaign huh [11:45]
asciilifeform: the 'bombs' apparently consisted of toy fireworks. [11:47]
asciilifeform: and, bonus, 'According to ABC affiliate WFTV in Orlando, Barrett was already on probation and wearing a court-ordered GPS monitor for a number of felony offenses, including kidnapping, multiple counts of sexual battery with a weapon or force and grand theft.' [11:47]
mircea_popescu: ... [11:47]
asciilifeform: d00d was probably one of those mentally feeble folx who will confess to a list of anythings. [11:47]
mircea_popescu: pretty good list. [11:48]
mircea_popescu: no rape though. seems equally probable dood's one of those gynonormative folk the gynostate can't stomach. probably told some fat waitress to move her ass while brandishing a fork, aka sexual battery with a weapon or force. [11:51]
mircea_popescu: i suppose it should be gynenormative and gynestate huh. obnoxious greek vowels. [11:52]
trinque: danielpbarron: curious where you're getting the corrections to your transcription of the bible [14:13]
danielpbarron: it's nkjv with footnotes where kjv differs also sometimes the nkjv has footnotes of its own about where certain texts differ [14:14]
trinque: ah ok [14:14]
trinque: iirc there's this "esword" program which might be balls of html inside [14:15]
danielpbarron: where possible i'll use Darwin Fish's translation i think he did the first few books of moses [14:15]
trinque: it has been a very long time since I looked into such a thing [14:15]
trinque: might help [14:15]
Framedragger: such dedication to the cause danielpbarron, i'm curious if you ever considered learning greek (new testament) and possibly hebrew/aramaic (old testament), to read scriptures etc. [14:27]
danielpbarron: that would be nice, and that's part of the reason i like darwin he did learn to read those things for exactly that reason [14:30]
mircea_popescu: such learning is a lifetime activity. [14:47]
ben_vulpes: i can't tell if hebrew/aramaic felt easy because i was young when i learned it or if it actually is a fairly sensible character set [14:48]
mircea_popescu: character set ? [14:48]
ben_vulpes: the written form, i mean [14:49]
ben_vulpes: i am not a linguist, do not have the tongue to speak of tongues [14:49]
trinque: danielpbarron: ah you know what, no, they were sqlite databases inside [14:49]
trinque: so might be able to take one of those and script the generation of html [14:49]
mircea_popescu: "so the biblical scholars mis-translated the hebrew word for young woman into the greek word for virgin. an easy mistake to make, since there's only a subtle difference in spelling. but it was the virgin that caught people's attention. it's not every day that a virgin conceives and bears a son. so you keep that for a couple hundred years, and the next thing you know, you have the holy catholic church." [14:50]
ben_vulpes: not tlp: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4uUJanXUAcIUzt.jpg [14:52]
mircea_popescu: kinda cool, i guess. [14:55]
mircea_popescu: can i get it on a tea cozy ? [14:55]
ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/1dspI << missing: any quotations from the letters to shareholders [14:58]
ben_vulpes: so does not even the wsj do anything but contract for think pieces without any research by people who know nothing about the topic but that which they can find on google finance? [14:59]
ben_vulpes: oh it's from blogs.*.com [15:00]
mircea_popescu: whorington post. they're a mfa, like myspace. [15:00]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: saving up to buy a share of buffettronium ? [15:00]
ben_vulpes: wall street urinal [15:00]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: now why would i do that? [15:00]
asciilifeform: dunno, why would you read about doing it [15:01]
ben_vulpes: for the joy of seeing the wsj write about something without citing any relevant papers! [15:01]
ben_vulpes: why watch snuff, isis execution videos, read camwho blogs? for entertainment [15:02]
trinque: "see even buffet does it for the tweets. now retweet this shitty blog article." [15:02]
asciilifeform: isis headsoff clips are different. in that they depict honest reality. [15:03]
asciilifeform: whereas buffetronic price is a work of fiction, of the cheapest sort [15:03]
trinque: I dunno those people love the retweets too. [15:03]
ben_vulpes: i didn't read it for the price, but to see how wide of the mark the wsj has drifted. it's an honest depiction of reality in that /it was published/, and depicts the process and its results. [15:04]
asciilifeform: northkr press also 'honest depiction of what was published', but lolk. [15:04]
mircea_popescu: "Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?" [15:08]
mircea_popescu: turns out, earth doth not swallow. women - do. [15:08]
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo https://archive.is/ETmwV << one for you [15:08]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [15:08]
asciilifeform: notably, this one 'He then walked into the backyard, fired shots toward a fence and then the helicopter.' [15:09]
asciilifeform: 0 smoking wreck, 0 craters tho. [15:10]
asciilifeform: just as in new orleans. apparently not so easy to bring down chopper with small arms as mircea_popescu suggested. [15:11]
mircea_popescu: i am not responsible for random dork. [15:11]
asciilifeform: i was skeptical of 'red army d00d brought down messerschmitt with mosin' when reading as a boy, also. [15:13]
asciilifeform: the 'vital organs' of the target are small. [15:13]
asciilifeform: (hence why real life aa gunnery works on principle of shrapnel + concussion) [15:14]
trinque: in my experience that rifle's pretty damned accurate [15:15]
trinque: and the rounds are big [15:15]
asciilifeform: trinque: thing topped out at ~1km of useful [15:17]
trinque: sure, but things fly lower than that [15:17]
asciilifeform: iirc early in ww2 instructions included 'shoot at dive bomber' but then changed to 'take cover' [15:19]
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack, i suspect that police choppers will remain a going concern right up until the first heatseaking quadcopter-cum-pyrotechnic. [15:22]
asciilifeform: after that, desire to hover in $multimil unarmoured toy will evaporate. [15:22]
asciilifeform: *heatseeking [15:22]
asciilifeform: 'but they are slow' -- not a problem , you do not need a rocket to catch up to a ~motionless victim [15:23]
trinque: good job you just justified another 10bil to lockheed martin for "helicopter iron dome" [15:26]
asciilifeform: trinque: 10tril why not [15:27]
trinque: incidentally this is not a bad DDOS mechanism for the DoD [15:27]
ben_vulpes: i've always wondered what monofilament (possibly coated in crushed glass) would do to the swash plate [15:44]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a helicopter and a messerschmitt have nothing in common. random dude alleged to have done something vague by font-of-lies has nothing to do. wouldja stop shitting on topics already. [15:48]
mircea_popescu: whether it's safe or it's not safe to try and fly helicopter within range of enemy rifles is not going to be decided by stakhanovist stories of any flavour, be they pravda i, pravda ii, or whatever. [15:48]
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-17#1615097 << http://atruechurch.info/twovirginbirths.html >> ???????? (betulah) is found in Genesis 24:16 Exodus 22:16-17 Leviticus 21:3, 14 Deuteronomy 22:19, 23, 28 32:25 Judges 19:24 21:12 2 Samuel 13:2, 18 1 Kings 1:2 2 Kings 19:21 2 Chronicles 36:17 Esther 2:2-3, 17, 19 Job 31:1 ("young woman" NKJV) [15:56]
a111: Logged on 2017-02-17 19:50 mircea_popescu: "so the biblical scholars mis-translated the hebrew word for young woman into the greek word for virgin. an easy mistake to make, since there's only a subtle difference in spelling. but it was the virgin that caught people's attention. it's not every day that a virgin conceives and bears a son. so you keep that for a couple hundred years, and the next thing you know, you have the holy catholic church." [15:56]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's from snatch. [15:57]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever review that one? [16:00]
mircea_popescu: apparently noit. [16:00]
mircea_popescu: but i liked it. [16:00]
ben_vulpes: favorite of mine for sure [16:01]
mircea_popescu: pity that dork went on to spawn a whole series of reality tv shits. [16:02]
ben_vulpes: ritchie? [16:02]
mircea_popescu: nah, the dude that played turkish. [16:03]
mircea_popescu: graham or statham or what's his name [16:03]
ben_vulpes: heh [16:03]
ben_vulpes: anyone ever trick you into watching "crank"? [16:03]
mircea_popescu: mno [16:04]
ben_vulpes: so bad [16:04]
mircea_popescu: but srsly, aging plumber with an attitude worked specifically because ritchie knew what he was doing. [16:04]
ben_vulpes: comes clean out the other side into hysterically [16:04]
mircea_popescu: to see the subversion played straight insistently is pretty meh. [16:04]
asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu ever write a 'likbez of partizan warfare' or similar ? i'd quite like to read it. [16:16]
asciilifeform: 'with what to deal with chopper, and how' is a question some of the folx tuned in might, whether they want to or not, have to answer one day. [16:17]
mircea_popescu: not really. but anywya, the proper model for helicopter is ~car except with the added benefits of jesus nut, and a serious incentive to keep everything light. [16:20]
mircea_popescu: what you're doing however is on the level of, "oh, i saw A team shooting in hollywood blockbuster, therefore safest place in world is in front of firing squad. also small arms don't work. tee hee." [16:22]
mircea_popescu: a hunting rifle is a good start. it helps tremendously if you a) can actually shoot where you aim and b) do actually aim at it. [16:23]
asciilifeform: fwiw in fact i never once saw up close the shooting of a chopper. and subj was not covered in my kindergarten. [16:23]
asciilifeform: so i'll believe mircea_popescu's description. [16:23]
asciilifeform: in which part would you have to aim ? [16:24]
mircea_popescu: i nearly fell to my death in one nobody was even shooting. [16:24]
asciilifeform: aha i recall that piece, it was water in the fuel [16:24]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think car. shoot driver shoot fuel tank these work with a fucking 38mm. if you're actually firing 20 gauge you can prolly fissure a cylinder / ablate the transmission / cut a hole throgh one blade large enough to make it no longer capable of flight [16:25]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was, for the needs of this conversation, we flying with one dead filter in the redundant arrangement. because cost savings, see, ie "no money". another item everyone will get acquainted with in this maga life. [16:26]
mircea_popescu: half the time military gear is about to give up the ghost on its own merits, not like it's all tip top shiny new and well oiled. [16:26]
trinque: http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk072_Apache/Bryan%20Ribbans/apat7.jpeg << configured with secondary gas tank right next to missiles [16:26]
trinque: you know for convenience [16:26]
mircea_popescu: well, for the naive conviction that "nobody'd fucking dare" [16:27]
asciilifeform: lol just like tiger tank [16:27]
asciilifeform: trinque: is that thing at least droppable? [16:27]
mircea_popescu: anyway. asciilifeform is actually aware quadcopter rotors can't handle as much as a blade of grass, imagines 2 ton heli rotor can handle buckshot ? [16:27]
trinque: asciilifeform: no idea [16:29]
asciilifeform: mojaheds in afghan for some reason preferred to use things other than buckshot. but is interesting to contemplate theoretically - given dispersion, how many shotgun rounds would you have to fire, from, say, 500 metres, to hit rotor. [16:29]
mircea_popescu: what dispersion ? it's a hunting round [16:30]
asciilifeform: so slug, not shot ? [16:30]
mircea_popescu: how many do you have to fire to hit duck ? "depends. can you shoot ?" [16:30]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea is that qualified hunter should be able to hit a duck at a half mile EVERY TIME. [16:31]
asciilifeform: wonder what mod6 would say to this. [16:32]
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder what you think hunting is. [16:32]
asciilifeform: i am not a champion marksman, nor mega-hunter. but i do picture that duck hunt would be somewhat more difficult if you had to shoot a ~specific~ duck, rather than one from a flock and if ducks knew how to shoot back, and call for backup.. [16:34]
mircea_popescu: this is what i mean. wtf are you talking "a specific duck". of coruse you shoot at a specific duck holy hell. [16:35]
trinque: lolwat [16:35]
* trinque imagines asciilifeform spraying ak47 rounds into flock, "FOR PIGLET!!!!!" [16:36]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:36]
mircea_popescu: "into flock" being charitable. into bridge, into clouds, into the other rounds... [16:36]
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's a profession, being a hunter. not like being c programmer, but like being c programmer aspires to be. [16:39]
asciilifeform: entirely respectable trade. [17:05]
asciilifeform: (hunting, that is.) [17:05]
mircea_popescu: yeah. telltale sign : it's not for everyone. [17:05]
asciilifeform: afaik only the grave is 'for everyone' [17:06]
* mircea_popescu is always very suspicion of the female professions, from religion to "our democracy" to aluminum siding salesmanship that "are open to everyone" [17:06]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/OwS20 << lulzy admixture of sense and nonsense. 'oh noez bit flips' but 0 mention of ecc. nor of the fact that almost all 'single event upset' are of ~earthly~ origin, ordinary beta decay [17:28]
trinque: pff ecc. not nearly as cool as minority report triad of processors [17:37]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> wonder what mod6 would say to this. << half a mile?! that's 2`640 ft. / 3 = ~880 yards. that's a pretty decent long shot even for a .308. [19:15]
mod6: for me, when I use upland loads (#6 shot) for pheasants, i get many yells of "great shot mod6" if I put a bird down at "long shot" of 60-80 yards. [19:16]
mod6: they do fly fast, and it's a lot harder than it looks. for one. now maybe I just suck shit, and guys are popping birds @ 500 yards on the regular. but this, i haven't seen myself. [19:17]
mod6: many guys do shoot deer with .12ga slugs. [19:17]
mod6: now, typically, as I understand, they typically take these deer at no more than 350 yards or you risk wounding the thing and having to track the sob for 10 miles. [19:18]
mod6: if you're in a qcb, and you have a shotgun and don't have a rifle as an option, or slugs for your shotgun, buckshot will do just fine. but you aught to be within say, 25 yards if you want to put your man down. [19:19]
mod6: that's just my $0.02. not gospel. personally, if I gotta fight in the field. i need to be able to put rounds on target up to at least 200 yards away or I'm basically in a qcb/hand-to-hand situation. [19:20]
mod6: so, yeah qcb, shotgun with buckshot will the job really well, especially inside the home or whatnot. but if I'm attacking, trying to lay down suppressing fire, or a part of some type of garrison, gotta have a rifle. at least, that's what I want in my hands. [19:23]
mod6: but heck, what do i know. when it comes down to it, any gun, with live ammo, is better than standing there with your dick in your hands. [19:25]
mod6: :] [19:26]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/mcdonalds-exposes-nuts-after-hiatus/ << Qntra - McDonald's Exposes Nuts After Hiatus [19:30]
mod6: i should note that pheasants are a bit different though. i try to get them up no further than 30 yards in front of me. any more than that shots get hard, birds catch wind and they're gone easier than you'd think. I keep the dogs between 15-25 yards in front of me, that way, they flush, bird pops up, i knock 'em down. [19:31]
mod6: ducks are a lot more involved. you gotta set out decoys and call 'em in to land. that's when those guys are in the blind they lock their wings coming into land that they shoot 'em. at least, that's what I hear. [19:32]
mod6: im not sure how high they try to take the shots.... your pellet pattern spreads out the further and further away you are shooting. now, for instance, if I shoot at a pheasant that's too close too me. i'll hit it with a full pattern, and that will probably not be very awesome to eat. [19:33]
mod6: so a bit of distance is good. too much and you're not hitting jack shit. even if you could put a pellet on target, it won't have enough KE to knock it down. [19:34]
mod6: maybe the goose/duck hunters use a different choke than me too. so who knows. [19:35]
mod6: i got a buddy who shoots a zillion geese every year, i'll have to ask him. i know that he does put out decoys and call's 'em in though. [19:35]
BingoBoingo: ty asciilifeform [19:37]
mod6: trinque imagines asciilifeform spraying ak47 rounds into flock, "FOR PIGLET!!!!!" << win lol [19:37]
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> so bad << Crank is probably best 'Murican film of the century so far [19:39]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform think car. shoot driver shoot fuel tank these work with a fucking 38mm. if you're actually firing 20 gauge you can prolly fissure a cylinder / ablate the transmission / cut a hole throgh one blade large enough to make it no longer capable of flight << 20 gauge is small less common one, 12 gauge is bigger common one. [19:42]
mircea_popescu: i once shot a phantom with a pea at 17 leagues [19:52]
mircea_popescu: blindfolded in the fog. [19:53]
mircea_popescu: and THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW I'M A HUNTER!!1 [19:53]
BingoBoingo: In europe bird hunters hit at extreme range because they use 1, 2, or 4 gauge "punt guns", US maxes out at 10 and 12 gauge for the reason that ducks respond to bigger guns by just flying higher and then arms race [19:53]
* BingoBoingo once shot down a fly with my pee [19:53]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i suspect the thing is, us duck / swamp birds mostly live in estuaries whereas in europe over river marshlands. [19:54]
mircea_popescu: makes a huge difference, in that you ain't got a submarine dog. [19:54]
BingoBoingo: Depends on part of USA. Ducks are adaptable [19:54]
mircea_popescu: i thought us ducks were canadian. [19:54]
BingoBoingo: Tend to be International travellers [19:55]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i think the pee thing makes you a... punter ? [19:55]
BingoBoingo: Mebbe? [19:56]
BingoBoingo: Or perhaps "gold cup" marksman [19:56]
mircea_popescu: lol [19:56]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [19:58]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1054.67, vol: 6034.35459566 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1033.594, vol: 5946.06379 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1054.9, vol: 16042.72389713 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1032.301088, vol: 9472.37520000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1055.86, vol: 2126.06558953 | Volume-weighted last average: 1046.31631755 [19:58]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all --currency eur [19:59]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 993.182739, vol: 6034.35459566 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 991.1, vol: 98.0624 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 969.200266, vol: 9472.37520000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 994.629, vol: 6494.66555647 | Volume-weighted last average: 983.319047239 [19:59]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5F7C4EB8C005D90AEE74CB84D8DADD1E2ADA0B9966C25DF9BB8CB531B5406CBF << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1425...5273 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '190.18.101.89 (ssh-rsa key from 190.18.101.89 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (89-101-18-190.fibertel.com.ar. AR) [20:29]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5F7C4EB8C005D90AEE74CB84D8DADD1E2ADA0B9966C25DF9BB8CB531B5406CBF << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1366...1853 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '190.18.101.89 (ssh-rsa key from 190.18.101.89 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (89-101-18-190.fibertel.com.ar. AR) [20:29]
thestringpuller: mod6: got to height 453552 on different machine when height was 453554. node's last "getblocks" message returned 4 blocks already in inventory. after that it sent no more "getblocks" commands. [21:58]
thestringpuller: isup http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/ [22:08]
thestringpuller: !~isup http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/ [22:08]
jhvh1: thestringpuller: It's not just you. mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/ appears to be down. [22:08]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-18#1615241 << lol, s33k000rity camera. and demands to 'Por favor, instale plugins primero!' ! i shit thee not, a winblowz exe. [22:50]
a111: Logged on 2017-02-18 01:29 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5F7C4EB8C005D90AEE74CB84D8DADD1E2ADA0B9966C25DF9BB8CB531B5406CBF << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1425...5273 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '190.18.101.89 (ssh-rsa key from 190.18.101.89 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (89-101-18-190.fibertel.com.ar. AR) [22:50]
asciilifeform: http://190.18.101.89/webplugin.exe ! [22:51]
thestringpuller: on mac i get http://190.18.101.89/webplugin.pkg [22:59]
mircea_popescu: lmao [23:11]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [23:58]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 453562 | Current Difficulty: 4.22170566883E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 453599 | Next Difficulty In: 37 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 hours, 2 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [23:58]
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