Forum logs for 15 Jan 2018
| mircea_popescu: | !!up douchebag | [01:57] |
| deedbot: | douchebag voiced for 30 minutes. | [01:57] |
| douchebag: | Hello | [02:06] |
| douchebag: | I am a security researcher, I mainly focus in web application exploitation currently. Is there anything I could help with here? | [02:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's up | [02:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, got a blog or anything ? | [02:07] |
| douchebag: | yes | [02:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | link ? | [02:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in other boudouir shorts, https://78.media.tumblr.com/6a4b68a216bf98e4a55aa581d10c38da/tumblr_mzx9epAqtD1saticco1_1280.jpg | [02:08] |
| douchebag: | mircea_popescu: pm'd | [02:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-02-jan-2016#1973529 | [02:09] |
| a111: | Logged on 2016-01-02 14:04 mircea_popescu: i don't do private chats with people i don't know. you want to talk about something, this is the venue. | [02:09] |
| douchebag: | oh | [02:10] |
| douchebag: | https://medium.com/bugbountywriteup/bug-bounty-fastmail-feeda67905f5 | [02:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | medium eh ? | [02:10] |
| douchebag: | yeah | [02:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | douchebag where's that hall of fame on their site ? | [02:13] |
| douchebag: | http://fastmail.com | [02:13] |
| douchebag: | bottom link | [02:13] |
| douchebag: | "Report a security issue" | [02:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey, silver for 2017 huh ? | [02:14] |
| douchebag: | mhm | [02:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, lessee, stuff that might be of professional interest to you then. http://trilema.com/how-the-beastforumcom-private-messaging-function-became-a-paid-user-only-item http://trilema.com/internet-census-2016 http://trilema.com/xenforo-no-better-than-vbulletin-certainly-not-all-that-different etc. | [02:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | mostly for teh lulz. | [02:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!key | [02:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!key dooglus | [02:16] |
| deedbot: | http://wot.deedbot.org/258EAE7C26B1F2EBCFA180C04BE6A010492A358E.asc | [02:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | gah | [02:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!key douchebag | [02:16] |
| deedbot: | http://wot.deedbot.org/5A067BA31976B2576818247075CD5709D6509291.asc | [02:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | that'd be... not your key your twitter advertises on... keybase (?!) | [02:17] |
| douchebag: | oh no, i switch between communities/handles | [02:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | "i or absolutely anyone else" | [02:19] |
| douchebag: | if you want I can verify that key | [02:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty sure noone gives a shit about keybase anyway, so not much to verify. | [02:20] |
| douchebag: | true | [02:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | so what's this primefort thing do then ? | [02:20] |
| douchebag: | Primefort? | [02:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | "So, Its been a while since Ive blogged about something. Its because Im busy with my cybersecurity startup called PrimeFort (www.primefort.net) for the past 1 year!" | [02:21] |
| douchebag: | That wasn't me | [02:22] |
| douchebag: | you may have browsed to another user published by bugbountywriteup | [02:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh it's just a medium feed thing i see. | [02:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | dude they're really raping your content. why exactly not run your own blog like sane people ? | [02:23] |
| douchebag: | Eh, I could do that I haven't really blogged enough I suppose | [02:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | why not ? | [02:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | dja happen upon either ffa or eucrypt write-ups, as it happens ? | [02:24] |
| douchebag: | I'm not entirely sure what people would be interested in hearing about, and no I haven't | [02:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. well, the argument here is that once you have a stable place of residence (as a mental construct) all sorts of things that were inaccessible before become attainable through sheer accumulation. a sort of equivalent to the historical pastoral to agricultural jump, if you will. | [02:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | phylogenesis follows ontogenesis and all that. | [02:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!gettrust deedbot douchebag | [02:27] |
| deedbot: | L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections. | [02:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!rate douchebag 1 hyde.solutions | [02:27] |
| deedbot: | Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/c2zn0/?raw=true | [02:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!up douchebag | [02:28] |
| deedbot: | douchebag voiced for 30 minutes. | [02:28] |
| douchebag: | hmm | [02:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other hystericals, "Pantsuit Nation is building the foundation for a more equitable and engaged democracy. Stories shared from the Facebook group are shared with " | [03:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | building through sharing. stories. welcome to fucktard planet. | [03:02] |
| lobbes: | !Qs-archive phuctor.nosuchlabs.com | [06:38] |
| lobbesbot: | 2918 results for "phuctor.nosuchlabs.com", http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view.php?searchterm=phuctor.nosuchlabs.com&sortby= | [06:38] |
| lobbes: | ^^ database also now updating on an hourly schedule with any new entries | [06:39] |
| lobbes: | btw "!Qsarchive" (without the "-") also works to call the command. ("!Qs" was already in-use to search logs.minigame.bz) | [06:44] |
| diana_coman: | wow, nice work lobbes | [06:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | ajajaja! | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qs trilema.com | [08:59] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: 312 search results for "trilema.com": http://logs.minigame.bz/search?q=trilema.com | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qs-archive trilema.com | [09:00] |
| lobbesbot: | 6880 results for "trilema.com", http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view.php?searchterm=trilema.com&sortby= | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | ok this is pretty cool. | [09:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes some items appear multiple times tho, like http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GoEJ5/?raw=true | [09:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qs-archive | [09:03] |
| lobbesbot: | mircea_popescu: (sarchive <text>) -- Search TMSR archives for 'text' | [09:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | !Qs-archive pantsuit | [09:03] |
| lobbesbot: | 23 results for "pantsuit", http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view.php?searchterm=pantsuit&sortby= | [09:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes archive links should pop in new window (target=blank) | [09:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | also could no-argument call move from <lobbesbot> mircea_popescu: (sarchive <text>) -- Search TMSR archives for 'text' to <lobbesbot> mircea_popescu: (sarchive <text>) -- Search TMSR archives for 'text' here's a list of known domains : url ? | [09:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | just list teh domains you've seen, once each. | [09:06] |
| BingoBoingo: | !~ticker --market all | [09:41] |
| jhvh1: | BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 14260.3, vol: 8220.87242097 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 14221.0, vol: 38106.54999817 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14331.2, vol: 3344.98844706 | Volume-weighted last average: 14234.9251951 | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!withdraw 0.095800 12d4mRYSohxdt1qwQ1ydhdRG5hgBVVVPY9 | [09:56] |
| deedbot: | Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TGdKR/?raw=true | [09:56] |
| shinohai: | In the department of "run moar DNS" : http://archive.is/VkRZN | [10:24] |
| BingoBoingo: | In still other "run moar DNS" home routers are suffering own goals when running Google home shit because when one piece sleeps the others flood DNS "keep alive" packets | [10:33] |
| shinohai: | lolz | [10:34] |
| mod6: | mornin' | [10:50] |
| shinohai: | Heya mod6 how goes? | [10:50] |
| mod6: | good! you? | [11:00] |
| shinohai: | Not bad here, gonna sweat over that V case I brought to you the other evening some more until I figure it out. ) | [11:05] |
| mod6: | ah sure. | [11:06] |
| mod6: | maybe outline the entire problem here -- im not sure I have the right answer on that. alf should comment. | [11:06] |
| shinohai: | Will do, and thanks for all your help (and patience!) on that again. | [11:13] |
| mod6: | np | [11:14] |
| ben_vulpes: | shinohai: fixed, ty | [11:52] |
| shinohai: | ty ben_vulpes o7 | [11:52] |
| shinohai: | Hmmm, I'm still getting the ISE from: http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks/504358 | [11:53] |
| ben_vulpes: | hm how about that | [11:55] |
| shinohai: | The other two links work fine, however. Only most recently processed block seems to be barfing. | [11:55] |
| ben_vulpes: | i see it, ty | [12:04] |
| knubie: | A programmer was crossing a road one day when a frog called out to him and said, “If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess.” He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket. The frog spoke up again and said, “If you kiss me and turn me back into a beautiful princess, I will stay with you for one week.” | [12:18] |
| knubie: | The programmer took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it and returned it to the pocket. The frog then cried out, “If you kiss me and turn me back into a princess, I'll stay with you and do anything you want.” Again the programmer took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back into his pocket. | [12:18] |
| knubie: | Finally, the frog asked, “What is the matter? I've told you I'm a beautiful princess that I'll stay with you for a week and do anything you want. Why won't you kiss me?” The programmer said, “Look, I'm a programmer. I don't have time for a girlfriend -- but a talking frog, now that's cool.” | [12:18] |
| BingoBoingo: | knubie: See also http://trilema.com/attention-cunt | [12:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | knubie how old are you, actually ? | [12:24] |
| knubie: | mircea_popescu: 29 | [12:25] |
| BingoBoingo: | Hay un bebe! | [12:25] |
| knubie: | (: | [12:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | you strike me rather as 15 but be that as it may -- stop with these inept/contextless dribbles and nonsense before someone cracks your wot standing. go do something useful, such as implement your own v version. | [12:26] |
| knubie: | that was actually an accidental paste in here.. sorry | [12:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | one day someone will manage to explain to me why this innate pubescent defensive mania anyway. what the fuck. so if you're a girl and you whore out, naked in the road, taking all cocks there is some risk of disease. but if you're a boy and you freely admit you're a boy, what the fuck supposedly happens ? they eat you ? | [12:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | who the fuck that was going to eat you because you're weak and stupid is going to NOT eat you now that you DONT ADMIT IT. | [12:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | wtf nonsense this is, primal stupidity of the human race. | [12:29] |
| BingoBoingo: | RE: shitholes -> “State Department officials said diplomats have been advised not to try to interpret or soften the President’s remarks but rather to listen and acknowledge the countries’ concerns.” | [12:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | o ya, that'll be a lulz, the purging of the blue state core. | [12:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | non-interpretative nikki hailey is kinda like "i don't think i am entitled to an oppinion on when i get fucked" feminist. | [12:39] |
| BingoBoingo: | AHA | [12:40] |
| BingoBoingo: | Anyways, Trump has a rather clear path to relection through his being censured by the African Union | [12:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | 2020 is a given, more interesting is the discussion around the reelection of 2024. | [12:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | he could pull a putin, have ivanka president for a cycle, just to bother the democrats. | [12:42] |
| BingoBoingo: | It's pretty clear in 2024 Trump will be too old and have to hand the reigns over to either Gary Busey or Omarosa | [12:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | "who got first woman in white house ? GRAB 'EM BY THE PUSSY!" | [12:42] |
| BingoBoingo: | But Omarosa is a blkkk womyn! | [12:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo he's only what, 70 ? | [12:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | with any luck he can pack 4-5 terms in there. | [12:43] |
| BingoBoingo: | Perhaps, but his reported eating habits are too mainstream USian to be sure | [12:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | kuznetsov was what, ~1400 yo. podgorny idem. | [12:45] |
| shinohai: | This is good for Bcrash: http://archive.is/Ni3xX | [12:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | shinohai fucktards don't link "his personal site", ie calvinayre.com | [12:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | now, what's this to do with obscure usg-led altcoin ? | [12:52] |
| BingoBoingo: | Maybe today's they day everybody's paste buffers got flipped? | [12:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://ayre.ag/content/uploads/2017/12/certificate@2x.png in other lulz. | [12:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | funny how many billionaires there are around these days. where were you back in like, 2015, beotches. | [12:55] |
| shinohai: | Supposedly declared it "The true Bitcoin" (Can't archive it: https://news.bitcoin.com/calvin-ayre-declares-bitcoin-cash-the-only-bitcoin/ ) | [12:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | right right. as maryland cuck says, "agreement in process" | [12:56] |
| ben_vulpes: | shinohai: k fixd, but asciilifeform i had to take down the raw blocks until i make a less-crazy way of serving those | [12:56] |
| shinohai: | I suspect he also has something to do with SatoshiDice switching to Bcrash | [12:57] |
| shinohai: | Certificate also lulzy. I think I did a Qntra on that once upon a time. | [12:58] |
| ben_vulpes: | tangential lulz: thepiratebay takes bitcoin donations to 3* and also bech32 (beeeeetch!) addrs, will take your monero and litecoin but "BCH: Bcash. LOL" | [12:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [12:59] |
| phf: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758769 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770771 | [13:05] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-12-26 21:14 shinohai: This is hilarious on thepiratebay website, on the donation footer says: "Bcash: LOL" | [13:05] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 17:59 ben_vulpes: tangential lulz: thepiratebay takes bitcoin donations to 3* and also bech32 (beeeeetch!) addrs, will take your monero and litecoin but "BCH: Bcash. LOL" | [13:05] |
| ben_vulpes: | ah, dupe | [13:06] |
| shinohai: | Retardedly, the links all pint to bitcoin.com though. | [13:10] |
| shinohai: | *point | [13:10] |
| phf: | asciilifeform: patches up to date | [13:13] |
| * shinohai | forgot to wish BingoBoingo a happy Robert E. Lee day. | [13:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | Gracias de Nuevo Dixie | [13:28] |
| phf: | asciilifeform: russky MIPS available for retail "soon" http://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2018-01-11_tsena_na_protsessory_bajkal_snizhaetsya_v_chetyre | [13:59] |
| BingoBoingo: | Fabbed by TMSC | [14:06] |
| BingoBoingo: | Y lol at the comments | [14:07] |
| phf: | yeah, i wonder where elbrus is fabbed (in before ascii's "fabbed in financial instrument papers only!1") | [14:10] |
| BingoBoingo: | phf: If I remember right Elbrus was a SPARC64 y entonces likely missing an ASM instruction useful for FFA with speed | [14:45] |
| phf: | from elsewhere, i've read that elbrus compiler stack (for an unobtanium chip) is completely closed source | [15:13] |
| phf: | i suppose speed is not the goal with a setup like that. glacier time gpg that nobody !11 can fuck with | [15:14] |
| trinque: | inb4 ms visual c++ with serial filed off. | [15:41] |
| ben_vulpes: | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42690251 | [17:15] |
| shinohai: | "The US is not a shithole country" | [17:22] |
| lobbes: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770711 << k, I'll work to get these three requests in. | [17:32] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 14:06 mircea_popescu: just list teh domains you've seen, once each. | [17:32] |
| lobbes: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770704 << with regards to this one, I figured there would be value in showing each available instance of a disctint URL (shows the history). Perhaps I could make it an option to show either a list of distinct URLs or all instances (and just default to the list of distinct) | [17:32] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 14:02 mircea_popescu: lobbes some items appear multiple times tho, like http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GoEJ5/?raw=true | [17:32] |
| * lobbes | bbl, meatworld | [17:32] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770779 << ty phf | [17:37] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 18:13 phf: asciilifeform: patches up to date | [17:37] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770782 << what, 3rd ? 4th ? 5th ? yr of 'soon' ? | [17:38] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 18:59 phf: asciilifeform: russky MIPS available for retail "soon" http://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2018-01-11_tsena_na_protsessory_bajkal_snizhaetsya_v_chetyre | [17:38] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770787 << nominally it's a sparc. however , my interest in paying any substantial moneys for it, is ~0 . on account of... where to even begin ? how about the fact that said sparc is a straight xerocopy of american sparc ? or the fact that it sits on a bus with a dmatronic taiwanese nic ? or... | [17:39] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 20:13 phf: from elsewhere, i've read that elbrus compiler stack (for an unobtanium chip) is completely closed source | [17:39] |
| asciilifeform: | for an every-transistor-documented xilinx 'virtex' fpga clone ? would pay | [17:39] |
| asciilifeform: | just about anything else -- is an expensive 'gnu purism laptop'-flavoured scamola sandwitch. | [17:39] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770786 << nah that was 'openrisc' | [17:40] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 19:45 BingoBoingo: phf: If I remember right Elbrus was a SPARC64 y entonces likely missing an ASM instruction useful for FFA with speed | [17:40] |
| asciilifeform: | ( which lacked carry flag ! i'm still half-convinced that it was an elaborate trololol, rather than an actual design meant to be taken seriously ) | [17:40] |
| asciilifeform: | though i'll point out that ffa as seen today, does not use the cpu carry flag ( recall, no-inline-asmolade rule ) | [17:44] |
| BingoBoingo: | !~ticker --market all | [17:44] |
| jhvh1: | BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13848.01, vol: 8565.68433796 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13784.0, vol: 31632.05238354 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 13848.1, vol: 3426.32722175 | Volume-weighted last average: 13801.6030603 | [17:44] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770768 << what was the problem there ? | [17:47] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 17:56 ben_vulpes: shinohai: k fixd, but asciilifeform i had to take down the raw blocks until i make a less-crazy way of serving those | [17:47] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770673 << i see an 'under construction...' | [17:47] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 07:21 mircea_popescu: "So, Its been a while since Ive blogged about something. Its because Im busy with my cybersecurity startup called PrimeFort (www.primefort.net) for the past 1 year!" | [17:47] |
| asciilifeform: | incidentally, re elbrus sparc, asciilifeform is reminded of a historic megamystery : why is it that sovblok incandescent bulbs, lasted for approx same time as western ones ? despite the latter's ( documented to my satisfaction ) philips cartel , and the absence of any such thing on su side ? | [17:52] |
| asciilifeform: | asciilifeform's brother's hypothesis was : su idiot-copied the philips-cartel filament ! | [17:52] |
| asciilifeform: | ( just like they copied the pdp-11 and more or less errything else... blindly, unthinkingly. ) | [17:52] |
| asciilifeform: | that is the monumental scale of an idiocy like copying sparc, dma, winblowz toolchain. | [17:54] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770788 << the 'goal', if we can even apply a word like this, is the same as was with chinese 'dragon' mips : to chisel from the ru mil budget. strictly, strictly that. | [17:55] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 20:14 phf: i suppose speed is not the goal with a setup like that. glacier time gpg that nobody !11 can fuck with | [17:55] |
| asciilifeform: | распил бюджета. | [17:56] |
| asciilifeform: | the thing shows 0 symptoms of any other 'goals'. | [17:56] |
| esthlos: | !~help | [18:18] |
| jhvh1: | esthlos: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands. | [18:18] |
| esthlos: | !~help later | [18:19] |
| jhvh1: | esthlos: Error: There is no command "later". However, "Later" is the name of a loaded plugin, and you may be able to find its provided commands using 'list Later'. | [18:19] |
| esthlos: | !~help later tell | [18:19] |
| jhvh1: | esthlos: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. | [18:19] |
| shinohai: | esthlos: see also: http://www.contravex.com/trilema-bots-directory/ | [18:19] |
| esthlos: | aha, I was looking for that! | [18:19] |
| esthlos: | thanks | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770789 << absolutely. the reason WHY they even do the closed source bs. | [18:20] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 20:41 trinque: inb4 ms visual c++ with serial filed off. | [18:20] |
| esthlos: | !~later tell danielpbarron http://ascii.esthlos.com/dan.asc | [18:20] |
| jhvh1: | esthlos: The operation succeeded. | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770815 << for a reason very much like my original (if misstated) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769871 material science as it exists in a decade places some limits on pantsuit posturing, howsoever the pantsuit in question are decorated. | [18:24] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-15 22:52 asciilifeform: incidentally, re elbrus sparc, asciilifeform is reminded of a historic megamystery : why is it that sovblok incandescent bulbs, lasted for approx same time as western ones ? despite the latter's ( documented to my satisfaction ) philips cartel , and the absence of any such thing on su side ? | [18:24] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-12 18:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno now why i thought the limit is a degree of magnitude higher on both energy and size. | [18:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | that they're "soviet" or "ourdemocracy" matters less than "they exist in 1970". | [18:25] |
| danielpbarron: | !!key esthlos | [20:41] |
| deedbot: | http://wot.deedbot.org/EDB93AD2CAB28398010B46D025C71657FDA71DC2.asc | [20:41] |
| danielpbarron: | 404 not found? .. | [20:43] |
| danielpbarron: | !~later tell esthlos plz to later tell me your key.asc i guess | [20:43] |
| jhvh1: | danielpbarron: The operation succeeded. | [20:43] |
| esthlos: | the url works for me | [20:44] |
| danielpbarron: | hrm | [20:44] |
| trinque: | works here. | [20:44] |
| danielpbarron: | weird.. | [20:44] |
| esthlos: | try http://www.esthlos.com/files/ate.asc | [20:44] |
| danielpbarron: | that works | [20:45] |
| esthlos: | fingerprint EDB9 3AD2 CAB2 8398 010B 46D0 25C7 1657 FDA7 1DC2 | [20:45] |
| danielpbarron: | esthlos, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/jPXH0/?raw=true | [20:48] |
| esthlos: | cool danielpbarron, got it | [20:53] |
| esthlos: | a question for all: is there a good way to store/track collections of encrypted messages? (perhaps with threads, etc.) | [20:55] |
| esthlos: | would be simple enough to cook up if there's interest: sexp storage of paths for structure, calls to gpg to decrypt | [20:58] |
| shinohai: | Would be neat esthlos | [20:59] |
| danielpbarron: | i just dump to txt and then rm | [20:59] |
| danielpbarron: | if it's something to be preserved, sign and deed it | [21:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | esthlos ~nobody uses automated decryption. | [21:30] |
| esthlos: | mircea_popescu: i'm thinking more 1. select thread to view, 2. insert/import/select decryption key, 3. enter pass, 4. show thread | [21:41] |
| esthlos: | reasonable? | [21:41] |
| asciilifeform: | why, in what universe do we need ~more~ liquishit touching gpggram plaintexts, rather than less..?? | [21:42] |
| asciilifeform: | bad enuff that they have to touch a x86 | [21:42] |
| asciilifeform: | and radiating vga | [21:42] |
| asciilifeform: | esthlos: consider taking a stab at an open problem that's ACTUALLY A PROBLEM ? | [21:43] |
| asciilifeform: | rather than a 'i dun fee like working on actual problems, so i'm make a microshit outlook for gpg' ?? | [21:44] |
| asciilifeform: | avoid falling into the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763687 trap, esthlos | [21:44] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-01-04 14:53 asciilifeform: 'hardware isn't easy to build therefore couldn't possibly be necessary, the gods would not have made this level so hard, for me, the hero' or similar. | [21:44] |
| esthlos: | apparently my real-problem radar needs training | [21:45] |
| asciilifeform: | esthlos: the answer lies in the logs | [21:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | i imagine this is somethiong he perceives he needs for himself which is the driver | [21:45] |
| asciilifeform: | esthlos: how many instances of 'i wish i had a gui for gpg' did you count in the logs ? | [21:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | esthlos what problem are you trying to solve here ? | [21:45] |
| asciilifeform: | i count 0. | [21:45] |
| esthlos: | mircea_popescu: how to organize and preserve gpg encrypted conversations for later reading | [21:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | consider maybe taking a bite out of the (afaik still unaproached) superproblem ? | [21:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://trilema.com/2015/a-proper-social-site-for-the-bdsm-community/ << got specced after the 2015 destruction / public humiliation of fetlife | [21:49] |
| esthlos: | hah, thought you were going to say non-shit gpg | [21:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know, there's a reason why the mp-emulator is an open problem sitll. | [21:50] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [21:50] |
| esthlos: | but this...is doable | [21:50] |
| esthlos: | (by me) | [21:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | might also be useful in any case might be usable which is almost as good. | [21:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | look into diana_coman 's work re all the "Safe and good enough (tm) rsa" | [21:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno if you've been following eucrypt. | [21:51] |
| esthlos: | yes | [21:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | (note that there's no absolute reason above item has to import browser & js. could also be stand-alone proggy) | [21:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | the merger into gossipd and eulora later on -- obviously open avenue. | [21:52] |
| esthlos: | alright, I will be thinking about this | [22:14] |
| esthlos: | I can imagine it being very cool in eulora. mpi in js sounds hairy | [22:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, something you'll have to use./ | [22:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | rsa in js seems hairy however you slice it. | [22:26] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile, for folx weary of modern-day scamola and flimflammery : some good ol'fashioned '90s swindle... http://redhill.net.au/b/b-bad.html | [22:49] |
| asciilifeform: | 'Here is our friend the anonymous 486 board again. See those black plastic things with metal legs on in the picture below? They look rather like cache RAM chips, don't they?' | [22:49] |
| asciilifeform: | 'How could the board run with cache enabled in BIOS but without any cache? Simple: the manufacturer had reprogrammed the BIOS to permanently disable external cache no matter which way you set it, and to report "256k cache enabled" during the boot sequence no matter what.' | [22:51] |
| asciilifeform: | best of all: | [22:53] |
| asciilifeform: | 'And this is why the BIOS chip was soldered directly into the board, instead of being socketed: not just to save using a 10c part, but so that you couldn't easily remove it and detect the fraud...' | [22:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmap | [22:54] |
| asciilifeform: | 'But there is a deeper moral: in a way, the real culprits were the hordes of greedy retail buyers who made it all possible. By relentlessly shopping on price, price and price, a great many Australian PC buyers left themselves wide open to this fraud. In the end, the one essential thing that makes con tricks possible and practical is the greed of the victim.' | [22:57] |
| asciilifeform: | whole thing worth reading. | [22:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | half a moral. from the same place(not that it's not true to the point of triteness) " Quite often the most expensive boards are no better than the honest middle of the road ones, just priced higher." | [23:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | the problem is not SIMPLY a bunch of fucktards who shop for price only. the cause they shop for price only is that a) http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#selection-711.0-711.610 ie they hallucinate themselves in a position of authority from whence they can make choices in the first place and THEN b) because the position is fictive rather than actual, they need some sort of substitut | [23:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | e criteria. so they pick price when shopping just as they pick cliffnotes and "is the A easy ??" classes when "educating" and "i just want to" when acting and so on ad infinitum. | [23:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | THIS is why expensive boards are just the same middle road shit overpriced, and THIS is why everything else : because the hallucination of self-importance is actually destructiv3e. | [23:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | buffettism through and through, "Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?" | [23:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | but what fucking "ingenuity", the last immigrant irishman long retired from the police force, what are we talking about ? "oh but mp, i went to a walmart called MIT, it says it's the premiere technical institution in the world right there in its brochure! surely i can come up with something technological!" "you mean like... a website ?" "yeah!" "totally, move to silicon valley and revolutionize the technowhatever" "SHIT YEAH!" | [23:57] |
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