Forum logs for 13 Apr 2019

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
BingoBoingo: In timely rereadings http://trilema.com/2013/no-womans-land/ [01:16]
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-12-apr-2019#2530523 << a yes, no, nothing like that. [15:05]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-12 14:46 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908318 << dun confuse the gedanken-fpga lut thrd with the 'ideal alu bus' one. i.e. a 64-bit bus is a set of 64 wires a 64-bit ~lut~ otoh is 2^64 sram cells , a planet-sized object , and with 1 lonely flipflop , lol, somewhere inside its molten core [15:05]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908325 << there may be someting in there, have hexagon/square mesh with specialist cells or w/e crazy surface covering mixes. [15:06]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-12 15:51 asciilifeform: to briefly revisit ~earthling~ gedanken-fpga tho : it is by no means obv. that the arity has to be 4. anyffin you can tile the 2d plane with, is a legit arity. ( and if you permit 2 or moar types of tile -- then even moar possible options. ) [15:06]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908353 << stupidity is self-reinforcing, is it. the sort of moronic http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-30#1593718 assemblage both rests and produces dysfunctional teaching tools, drawing and display conventions, etcetera. [15:21]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-12 19:28 asciilifeform: hair-pulling level of pervasive idiocy. [15:21]
a111: Logged on 2016-12-30 17:50 mircea_popescu: phf here's the problem : moder(field) consists of take field, redefine it in a practically useless but superficially persuasive way, then bad_words() to whoever dares ask if your "field" solves any important questions in the field. because of course it doesn't, MIT is the premier institution in science(*) and technology(*) in the werld. [15:21]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908360 << well, people of 1972 also didn't need newsweek to explain how the news relates to them. so... [15:25]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-12 19:41 asciilifeform: that capability was there in fucking 1972. [15:25]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908374 << lulzily, ~the original problem apple was even invented to solve. [15:40]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-12 19:57 asciilifeform: 'you thought you could put little arrows from one place to another in'em without hand-diddling coordinates for each one ?' [15:40]
* mp_en_viaje admires peterl's tireless google faith. "mayhap he just didn't put the right magic string in the magic box ?" [15:42]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908393 << something else happened ? [15:45]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-12 21:17 asciilifeform: !!rate OriansJ -1 read-only brain [15:45]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908409 << you gotta work to her strengths, yes ? [15:53]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-12 21:29 Mocky: ah yes. More specifically, I don't wonder about making chix rise from the earth, but how to make it +ev starting with the first, as opposed to adding the 6th [15:53]
mp_en_viaje: it's not some kind of universal... well, i suppose it could be, if you were an actual pimp, then every girl is +ev by working the street. [15:53]
mp_en_viaje: but outside of that, what can she do, and what do you control ? is the dentist in whose practcie you're the silent partner looking for a hygienist ? is she all into yoga and ready to post butt tri-daily on her youtube channel ? were you employing a dumbass to do a dubious job of paralegal work tha tshe could be trained within two weeks to take over, thereby saving not merely the salary, but also the government burdens ? (if you cut a 20k a year em [15:56]
mp_en_viaje: ployment, you save like 60k or so irl). [15:56]
mp_en_viaje: every place you live in will require someone to mop and broom and go behind the toilet on her bare hands and knees, are you currently hiring someone to do this or are you just pretending it no longer is something that has to be done because "progress" in "modern democracy" ? [15:56]
mp_en_viaje: how much are you currently paying for the driver(s), garner (s?), maids, scullery and otherwise, and so on ? [15:57]
BingoBoingo: Or how much time is being lost trying to diy all those jobs [15:58]
mp_en_viaje: is she any good at doing girly shit, can set her up with a beauty salon out of maybe 50k at most, does she like to drive, can get her a taxi license. is she the smoothest tongue you ever saw get her a real estate practice, she can work rents. solutions to specific problems have to be specific, yes ? [15:59]
mp_en_viaje: i suppose "videochat" is the lowest financuial capital investment (in the sense every poor schmuck can attempt it) / "spa" aka beauty salon is the lowest human capital investment (in the sense any tardashian can do it), which is why every two bit wanna-be mp is being a "businessman" while the gfs work these. [16:01]
mp_en_viaje: (meanwhile retarded innocents open "pizzerias", but the same principle really)> [16:01]
mp_en_viaje: in short, on the basis of your asking the question in that form's rather obvious your outlook's broken in the femitard way. patriarchy ftw, own your space you then don't need to ask what to put the slaves at work on. [16:03]
mp_en_viaje: but in any case the first's gonna be a lot closer to a partner than anything, so pick one with some business acumen and not so much goange-head. [16:04]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908415 << there's absolutely no magic involved. that is ~precisely~ the catch, every moron out there, from first to last, is wholly dependent on a large pile of "magic" being "accepted as part of everyday functioning of reality". orianj dood's problems with this world don't stem from my imaginarily "alien dragon of pure energy [16:17]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-12 22:06 Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908406 << at work when I'm the only one who can answer for issues peripherally related to our project even though I'm the newest, coworkers act as if I'm some sort of different species. maybe I'm a member of homo giveashiticus and they aren't, who knows. But no, I don't expect mp has martian dna and that success in some particular realm is thus unattainable. [16:17]
mp_en_viaje: / sociopath" nature. they stem from his own fucktarded assumptions not sharing in those assumptions means not paying their (very burdensome) cost, means being able to engage in "magic" feats that are "impossible". [16:17]
mp_en_viaje: so no, the less you look at some cunt as some sort of divinity totem, the more able you are to put her to some kind of useful work. the less you're impressed with the hurr durr of "romantic comedies", the more capable of actual hapiness the subservient ambiental female becomes. and so following. [16:18]
mp_en_viaje: most generally, the less you try to live in the fictional pantsuit world, the more you're stuck living irl. [16:20]
jurov: !!v E340FA4945BCCCBDF5D5486A1602C5ADA47335B2679FB87E70E530D7D1B8215D [16:23]
deedbot: jurov paid BingoBoingo invoice 10 [16:23]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908420 << don't expect rational op. most of this "it" crap is entitrely anti-economic, just a cover-up for social security payments, there to keep up the pretense of a working economy as opposed to the bare reality of a purely loot-distributive system. because [they think] the chinese couldn't face said reality. [16:25]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 00:04 Mocky: They way they have folks scheduled to rotate off of my project, at the time my contract is up I'm going to the only developer who will have been on the project for more than a few weeks, I'll still be bringing the newbies up to speed. So I expect to have substantial leverage. [16:25]
mp_en_viaje: therefore, the institution has ~nothing to lose by behaving irrationally, and everytrhing to lose by behaving "out of character". if the play / libretto calls for your doing X, there's no financial outlay that'll convince them to do Y. [16:25]
mp_en_viaje: so in practical terms, they have ~0 problem with losing out on however many billions, but will NOT pay you more than X, or make an exception to their "code of conduct" to accomodate your fucking interns if you feel like it, or anything else. pretense above sense, you see. [16:27]
mp_en_viaje: the billions are conventional anyway, see. breaking convention === world ending. [16:27]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908421 << or more properly put, "imagines themselves ~the necessary center of any possible world~, so that anyone and everyone is compelled by the power of inca jesus to work for them on their terms without exceptipons". http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510037 quite relevant. [16:30]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 00:13 BingoBoingo: Less about leverage and more... they were lucky enough to give you a contract in spite of HR. Is there actually someone making decisions or is this a Home Depot that figures they'll luck into another giveashiticus eventually. [16:30]
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 16:28 asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-power-of-nyet.html [16:30]
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908431 << his problem seemed rather of interface, "how to harem on its own power, rather than an exercise in the same distributive non-economics as pantsuit world". not an invalid line of reasoning, either. [16:43]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 01:42 lobbes: i.e. from what I can tell, much like the republic makes a safe space in the -public- domain for humans to be human, a master makes a safe space in the -private- domain for girlz to be human [16:43]
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/assange-supporting-activist-arrested-in-quito/ << Qntra -- Assange Supporting Activist Arrested In Quito [16:46]
BingoBoingo: ^ In wannabe republics and government generated crime [16:46]
mp_en_viaje: yet idiot didn't have the sense to maintain his own platform etc. [16:49]
mp_en_viaje: cuz of course such a grandiose and important and notable and whatnot moronactivist can make his own choices and dun have to do what mp says and etc. [16:49]
mp_en_viaje: freedom as in stupid. [16:49]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908439 << aaha, that was what i was thinking to draw, leading up to the barf thread.. [21:30]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 19:06 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908325 << there may be someting in there, have hexagon/square mesh with specialist cells or w/e crazy surface covering mixes. [21:30]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908446 << i dun think i ever saw a crapple product which attempted [21:33]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 19:40 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908374 << lulzily, ~the original problem apple was even invented to solve. [21:33]
asciilifeform: ( 'macdraw' was approx. equiv. of winpaint . so couldn't be what's meant here, dun think ) [21:33]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908449 << nah, just ran outta patience . if he ever returns and answrs , then new rating, but until then 'read only' is descriptive [21:34]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 19:45 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908393 << something else happened ? [21:34]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908455 << entirely srsly, i dun think i could replace the functions of the pet for 60k [21:35]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 19:56 mp_en_viaje: ployment, you save like 60k or so irl). [21:35]
asciilifeform: ( who eats maybe half of what i do , and buys ~nuffin, but at same time does 9000 chores + 100% of food-crafting + mp-style 'here's a type of cake we haven't had yet' etc ) [21:36]
asciilifeform: ... even was instrumental in installing the xray sys, i have this 2-body harness... [21:38]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908473 << 100% accurate summary of ameri-'software' kabuki theatres [21:39]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 20:25 mp_en_viaje: therefore, the institution has ~nothing to lose by behaving irrationally, and everytrhing to lose by behaving "out of character". if the play / libretto calls for your doing X, there's no financial outlay that'll convince them to do Y. [21:39]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908481 << the time for his supporters to 'support' was ~before~ he ended up in the mousetrap where kept warm for usg for 7y [21:43]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 20:46 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/assange-supporting-activist-arrested-in-quito/ << Qntra -- Assange Supporting Activist Arrested In Quito [21:43]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-13#1908448 << i distinctly recall a very similar pete_d thread [21:45]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 19:42 mp_en_viaje admires peterl's tireless google faith. "mayhap he just didn't put the right magic string in the magic box ?" [21:45]
asciilifeform: 'if i push button enuff, surely right answer will emerge' [21:45]
asciilifeform: it won't, folx!! [21:45]
asciilifeform: for 1 thing, asciilifeform also can push button, and typically does prior to returning verdict of 'this animal appears to be extinct' [21:46]
asciilifeform: while on subj, 1 of the lost atlantian technologies i intend to saw out of bolix, is the sane graphics stack [21:53]
asciilifeform: without it, ~impossible to bake the type of item contemplated in that thrd. [21:53]
asciilifeform: even ordinary sbcl with graphics awareness, could theoretically do the job, i.e. the item laddel threatened to produce. but this also dun exist. [21:55]
asciilifeform: then again when phf brought up 'hey didja look at the internals', and i did, barfed mightily the notion of cleaning sbcl makes the gnat work look trivial in comparison, ~whole thing is a pile of gnarly x86 hackolade [21:58]
asciilifeform: presently , it aint even clear to asciilifeform that it is possible to produce a pc-iron lisp that isn't doomed to resemble that pile of shit, simply on acct of the hostility of the iron to any kind of sense [21:59]
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