Forum logs for 10 May 2018

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mod6: Sounds like a nice day at the beach! [00:14]
mircea_popescu: word! [00:54]
hanbot: a good one i heard today: what does a dyslexic, insomniac agnostic do at night? lays awake wondering if there's a dog. [02:02]
mircea_popescu: lol [02:08]
jurov: asciilifeform: the IDs are straight from here: https://developer.github.com/v3/users/keys/, and it's github internal ID [09:21]
lobbesbot: jurov: Sent 16 hours and 45 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plz tell me how you obtained the KEYID in the 'phathub' collection and more generally how the scan was made... [09:21]
jurov: the scan listed all users and the keys for every user via api above [09:23]
BingoBoingo: phf: ty, fxd [09:36]
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-09-may-2018#2436443 << The Blue stuff like the ice cream is medicine for the spirit [09:37]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 03:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811784 << ftr, blue cheese is sterlizer not flora supplement. the buggers that make it blue are ~same that make penicillin. [09:37]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/largest-israeli-missile-barrage-in-7-years-of-syrian-war-aggresses-against-iranian-positions/ << Qntra - Largest Israeli Missile Barrage In 7 Years Of Syrian War Aggresses Against Iranian Positions [09:57]
BingoBoingo: douchebag: Do you happen to have much experience spreading links? [10:01]
BingoBoingo: And the ongoing struggles of the human mushroom: https://archive.is/0I21L "Please do not remove it. GNU is not a purely technical project, so the fact that this is not strictly and grimly technical is not a reason to remove this." [10:04]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/great-again-candidate-leading-wide-presidential-field-in-early-stage-of-campaign-in-brazil/ << Qntra - "Great Again" Candidate Leading Wide Presidential Field In Early Stage Of Campaign In Brazil [10:29]
mod6: Mornin' [10:34]
BingoBoingo: mornin [10:35]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: check your postbox today [10:36]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Will do [10:36]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-10#1811871 << how didja enumerate the users ? [10:39]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 13:23 jurov: the scan listed all users and the keys for every user via api above [10:39]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/us-pentagon-investigation-no-one-to-blame-for-green-beret-deaths-in-niger/ << Qntra - US Pentagon Investigation: No One To Blame For Green Beret Deaths In Niger [11:04]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, hysterical. and, amusingly, goes right to the purging stalin discussion. [11:52]
mircea_popescu: "Carlos O'Donnell, a senior software engineer at Red Hat, suggested that trying to wring humor out of abortion "could be a trigger for certain individuals" [11:53]
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu . i have a spiffy present for you , dun go to sleep yet [11:53]
asciilifeform: ( it is grinding out as we speak ) [11:53]
mircea_popescu: if you work with red hat i will negrate you on sight. if you EVER worked with red hat, i will consider it also. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, cool. ill be around. [11:53]
asciilifeform: oh hey rathead, home of poettering & co [11:54]
mircea_popescu: red hat is officially a banned organisation. enough of the stupid shit. [11:54]
asciilifeform: ( when will it merge with microshit's linux group, i wonder ) [11:54]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, incidentally, notice how fsf is 100% ~latino orcs by mass now ? [11:55]
asciilifeform: i have nfi if same orc% as rest of usa or not [11:56]
mircea_popescu: looks like it went the way of "hire mexicans, they at least work", ended up with a bunch of argentinotards. [11:56]
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2018/05/us-pentagon-investigation-no-one-to-blame-for-green-beret-deaths-in-niger/ << Qntra - US Pentagon Investigation: No One To Blame For Green Beret Deaths In Niger <<< aaaahahahahaha! OF COURSE "no one", what, could it possibly be http://trilema.com/2017/color-revolutions-green-or-today-in-usg-corruption-careerism-cronyism-and-malfeasance-in-the-special-warfare-center/#selection-243.0-243.29 ie "MG Sonnt [11:59]
mircea_popescu: ag and COL Kornburger" ?! [11:59]
asciilifeform: in other persistent idiocies, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YCgtq/?raw=true [12:09]
asciilifeform: 'Si usted no desea utilizar uno de los 3 cupos ... Para esta modalidad de liberación, necesitamos nos haga llegar solamente la imagen de su documento de identidad de ambos lados o imagen del pasaporte en caso de ser extranjero' [12:10]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, let bb pick it up, what do you care. [12:12]
asciilifeform: seems to imply that it won't go into his postbox unless asciilifeform mtgoxes scan of whatevers [12:13]
mircea_popescu: looky here, and read this thrice and understand it thoroughly : the "no identity outside of wot" / "all sybil heads are sybil heads" works EVERYWHERE, not just where you realise it does. the circumstance that the sybil is talking to ~you~ does not get to a) corroborate with the fact that you have a strong idea of the self and therefore b) result in any practical effect. as far as they are concerned, we're all exactly equal an [12:15]
mircea_popescu: d interchangeable. which is how eg danielpbarron paid for random game account i allegedly at some point used or pete_d paid for flowers i sent chet etcetera. [12:15]
mircea_popescu: identity is signature only stop caring about ANYTHING else. [12:16]
asciilifeform: thread is re the experiment re whether BingoBoingo gets the (cheap) crate or not. [12:16]
mircea_popescu: so give him the details, he can go to their oficina and pick them up. [12:16]
asciilifeform: i did. and instructed him to try ( it is supposed to, if dhl is to be believed, have landed in the city on monday ) [12:16]
mircea_popescu: cool then. [12:17]
mircea_popescu: and generally, always expose the more convenient edge of the wot to the sybil. "you" can buy stuff from there and "you" can pick it up here and so on and so forth. [12:18]
mircea_popescu: the one thing pantsuit kept saying early on was "oh, everyone is mp". this is not coincidental -- as far as the lost are concerned, we are literally all tulpas in one single solitary dood's head. because that's what comes out of their b&w camera when they try and photograph copper sulphate : the exact same dull gray as if ground granite. [12:20]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XXltp/?raw=true [12:25]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, reading. [12:25]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lemme know if any of it dun make sense. [12:25]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Co1nx/?raw=true [12:31]
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-10#1811895 << Redhatists are a serious pest here. [12:32]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 15:55 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, incidentally, notice how fsf is 100% ~latino orcs by mass now ? [12:32]
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-10#1811909 << Current status is I am waiting for either the box or manilla envelope with DHL hostage papers to arrive in the mailbox. [12:35]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 16:16 asciilifeform: i did. and instructed him to try ( it is supposed to, if dhl is to be believed, have landed in the city on monday ) [12:35]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, go by the office and ask one of these days. [12:35]
BingoBoingo: I will. The last time a dhl package got held here (Christmas cookies from mom), there was a manilla envelope with retrieval instructions delivered after Aduanas reached their verdict. [12:38]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wB0n6/?raw=true [12:40]
mircea_popescu: word. [12:44]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ahaha I KNOW!!! one of these people. rather hot chick, too. [12:58]
asciilifeform: lolwaaat [12:59]
mircea_popescu: fucking epic. [12:59]
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu i'm beginning to think that my proof is wrong, and it gotta be 3 2/3-sized segments, rather than 4 1/2-sized , to work. [12:59]
asciilifeform: possibly later on we should lay it out here. [12:59]
mircea_popescu: wasn't going to include that part anyway. can do blogpost, or i guess here if you want to. [13:00]
asciilifeform: eh not burning. [13:00]
asciilifeform: i'ma come back to it. [13:00]
mircea_popescu: aaanyways, i'm going to put pics and everything in it. why the hell not, make a proper lulzfest. [13:02]
asciilifeform: neato. [13:02]
* asciilifeform looks forward. [13:02]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, o yeah. i think you'll like this. [13:44]
* BingoBoingo can't wait to see this baking victory [14:01]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PCuv5/?raw=true [14:08]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nifty [14:09]
asciilifeform: and ty [14:09]
ben_vulpes: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8hvzja/backdoor_in_sshdecorator_package/ [14:15]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i send you a dhl tracking thing some time last wk, take a look [14:17]
asciilifeform: *sent [14:17]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sent to where? [14:18]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: gpggram [14:19]
asciilifeform: here. [14:19]
asciilifeform: check yer archive. [14:19]
asciilifeform: https://i.redd.it/zu0guck3cmw01.png << lol [14:23]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am not seeing it in the archives [14:24]
BingoBoingo: Digging through logs looking for where a paste might have been sent, but I have not found it yet. [14:25]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/r2aDD/?raw=true [14:25]
BingoBoingo: ty [14:28]
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/10/more-assorted-trivia/ << Bingo Blog - More Assorted Trivia [14:34]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile lulzdraft upgraded with a "i think i know his mom", also. ima go have lunch, this is a monster. [14:40]
asciilifeform: lol! [14:41]
mircea_popescu: to keep up the hype engine : further upgraded with the phrase "1,653 contributions in the last year." [15:16]
asciilifeform: bahahaha [15:16]
mircea_popescu: no, it's not a sum. [15:17]
* asciilifeform did not immediately recognize any of the $lusers but did not look very closely as of yet [15:17]
mircea_popescu: takes a whole lotta looking. [15:18]
asciilifeform: ( i stabbed at random and got a few pond scum ) [15:18]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz/"hatefacts" : "Hypothes.is is a 501(c) open-source software project that aims to collect comments about statements made in any web-accessible content, and filter and rank those comments to assess each statement's credibility." [15:21]
mircea_popescu: where "credibility" is of course a keyword in the sense "thrice cursed running dog" is a keyword in the other korea. [15:22]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see also older bunkum in same genre , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478076 [15:22]
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 18:18 asciilifeform: some derp named hanson was pushing a crackpottery called 'futarchy', where you have a bitbet-like item that is actually plugged into a robotic monarch that issues edicts [15:22]
asciilifeform: truthiness(tm)(r) [15:23]
asciilifeform: !#s hypothes.is [15:25]
a111: 4 results for "hypothes.is", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=hypothes.is [15:25]
asciilifeform: ^ hah, apparently popped up before [15:25]
mircea_popescu: aaand we have a major microsoft maintainer. [15:29]
mircea_popescu: also, i'm barely 1/3 through sifting the data, this will take a few more hours. [15:30]
mircea_popescu: o look at that, stanford postdocs too. [15:49]
ben_vulpes: i wouldn't be surprised to find an old key of mine in there from a mac [15:50]
mircea_popescu: aand we got a... 3 digit github user. (obviously, github user db trivially ennumerable). not even high 3 digit, at that. [16:22]
mircea_popescu: in other news, irc apparently works a lot better than twitter at being twitter. who could have predicted. [16:23]
mod6: srsly [16:24]
mod6: twitter sucks. they're all irc wanna-be's. [16:24]
mircea_popescu: word. [16:25]
mircea_popescu: aaand facebook employee. [16:35]
mod6: punch them in their buttholes [16:40]
BingoBoingo: "For the best performance of our website, we kindly ask you to activate Java Script. Hit the button bellow to start" << Japoneses, button bellow [17:15]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what means 'at being twitter' ? [17:15]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what was it [17:15]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the landing page for the domain in the email of the top entry on the nsa /stats page [17:16]
asciilifeform: in other lullies: [17:16]
asciilifeform: 184.154.74.67 - - [10/May/2018:17:13:40 -0400] "\x16\x03\x01\x00\x8B\x01\x00\x00\x87\x03\x03h\xD9\x83P'!\x98^3\x14t\xF3\xC0\xA4Q\x5C\xD4\x1C\xF9dt\x02\x9E\xC3\xB3L\x8D\xA68\xC1\xC2\xAC\x00\x00\x1A\xC0/\xC0+\xC0\x11\xC0\x07\xC0\x13\xC0\x09\xC0\x14\xC0" 400 173 "-" "-" "-" [17:17]
asciilifeform: ^ either 0day or custom, 0 googlehits [17:17]
asciilifeform: ^ if anyobody ( ... douchebag ? ) knows for what ^ is , plox to write in [17:18]
BingoBoingo: "internet-census.org" [17:19]
asciilifeform: 'Current fortran code to calculate neutron skin thicknesses with a variety of NEDF and carry out bootstrap analysis' << notbad ( from luserlist ) [17:25]
mod6: Some of the bytes seem to match this array from this mass scanner thing: https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/masscan/blob/master/src/script-heartbleed.c [17:36]
douchebag: probably not an 0day [18:00]
asciilifeform: yea loox like old crapola with rubbish added as pill for idsen [18:01]
mircea_popescu: oooo and mit assistant professor, 1k contacts. [18:06]
asciilifeform: lollomatic [18:06]
mircea_popescu: was at stanford before. model catamite. [18:09]
BingoBoingo: !Q later tell jurov http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ajIrQ/?raw=true Take your time [18:50]
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. [18:50]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/turnbull-in-australia-trying-to-limit-size-of-cash-payments/ << Qntra - Turnbull In Australia Trying To Limit Size Of Cash Payments [19:00]
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811661 << thanks, seems to be working now [21:27]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-09 18:36 hanbot: esthlos : your blog's comments are borkt (commenter sees 'Error: please fill the required fields (name, email).' despite entering fields), see the "edit" here for the fix http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/ [21:27]
ben_vulpes: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/05/08/fitzgerald-officer-deck-pleads-guilty-court-martial.html [21:58]
asciilifeform: 'Lt. j.g. Sarah Coppock's job was to ensure safe navigation of the USS Fitzgerald. On June 17, 2017, she was "derelict in the performance of those duties," resulting in the deaths of seven sailors, according to the single charge she faced Tuesday.' << somebody give this chix order of lenin. [21:59]
ben_vulpes: heh [22:00]
asciilifeform: it is very difficult , however, to beat the record of the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-07#821351 d00d [22:00]
a111: Logged on 2014-09-07 04:09 asciilifeform: (who? him: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/navy-nuclear-submarine-burned-arsonist-scrapped-article-1.1421356) [22:00]
esthlos: trinque asciilifeform phf etc: what's the best way to deal with sbcl's package lock error when redefining run-program? my naive approach was to define a new package for the vtron. But I'm pounding my head against use-package anyway [22:41]
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811127 << ben_vulpes: can you elaborate on what you envision here? for instance, I could build up and tear down keyring on every press, which seems only way to be stateless with gnupg. how does that sound? [22:51]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-08 15:34 ben_vulpes: use a tempdir for gnupg's keyring thing must be stateless. [22:51]
asciilifeform: esthlos: have you considered reading my original v ? [22:51]
asciilifeform: generally recommended, for folx writing their own. [22:51]
esthlos: I have it locally, compared parts of it after writing my implementation [22:53]
mod6: i agree, read alf's. [22:53]
esthlos: not to make excuses: makes sense to read it [22:53]
trinque: esthlos: I don't think anyone demands you use precisely that name, if doing so results in more needless complexity than just picking another. [22:55]
ben_vulpes: esthlos: yeah, that's what i did and i think asciilifeform as well [22:57]
ben_vulpes: i think mod6's worked that way eventually too [22:57]
* ben_vulpes bbiab [22:57]
esthlos: got it [22:58]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/h81Ey/?raw=true << final draft for your review. let me know if anything [23:16]
mircea_popescu: i plan to publish in ~hour. [23:16]
ben_vulpes: esthlos: i made a gensym dir in /tmp, passed that to gpg for the workdir, and then various operations take a teardown key, defaulting to true which could be overriden to inspect keyring state should the operator so desire [23:21]
ben_vulpes: vpatch is 300 lines including examples [23:22]
* ben_vulpes quite looking forward to this trilema [23:23]
mircea_popescu: id say is one of the lulziest ever. [23:23]
ben_vulpes: and also the hn instaban [23:23]
ben_vulpes: mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fz5lc/?raw=true [23:24]
* mod6 looks [23:34]
asciilifeform: oh hey ! [23:38]
* asciilifeform reads.. [23:38]
mod6: ben_vulpes: ack [23:40]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fire at will [23:44]
asciilifeform: loox great. [23:44]
mircea_popescu: aaand it's out. [23:46]
asciilifeform: bwahahaha [23:46]
mircea_popescu: you know it took like 30 woman-hours, this thing ? not even counting my time. [23:46]
* asciilifeform can picture. [23:46]
* asciilifeform originally thought 'such small find, what can even be had from it' but mircea_popescu's olive press worx wonderz. [23:47]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, and for all time : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811668 <<->> http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-things-that-didnt-happen-today-heres-192-cracked-github-keys-some-hotties-in-tech-included-yes/#footnote_4_79316 [23:47]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-09 19:21 asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu ( or anybody else ) do you happen to have a script handy for mass submission of links to archive.is ? [23:47]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: exactly what i wanted, ty [23:48]
mircea_popescu: even saves resulting urls. [23:48]
mod6: nice post mircea_popescu! [23:51]
mircea_popescu: hm, is the lining messed up ? [23:51]
asciilifeform: formatting ? looks proper here [23:51]
mod6: they go cascading from left to right, looks ok but when you get down to 'jgabrielygalan' there is a funny looking wrap where 'key: 1' is left most justified. [23:52]
mod6: but seems to be pretty good anyway [23:52]
mod6: (might just be my screen or whatever) [23:52]
mod6: lmao 'thigh and pelvis arch' [23:53]
asciilifeform: bahaha fortunately db is o(n log n) nao, since each time mircea_popescu fixes a typo, his wptron loads all 193 keyz... [23:55]
mircea_popescu: mod6, hit a reload ? [23:55]
* mod6 does [23:55]
mircea_popescu: i put some clearing elements in. [23:55]
mod6: oh yah, there you go [23:55]
mod6: *thumbsup* [23:56]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, kik [23:56]
asciilifeform: i assume it's for the pingback feature [23:56]
mircea_popescu: it is yes. [23:56]
asciilifeform: at any rate thing oughta be able to stand up to whatever treatment the upstream pipe can give it, nao. [23:57]
mircea_popescu: curious which of the luminaries of pantsuit technologees gets pwnd first. [23:57]
asciilifeform: some of the lusers ( i specifically did not bother with exhaustive survey ) swapped keyz since '16, others -- not [23:58]
mircea_popescu: prolly should re-do the db walk anyways. [23:58]
asciilifeform: ( at some point we do a refresh ) [23:58]
asciilifeform: aha [23:58]
asciilifeform: hey douchebag , pretty good entry level problem for you [23:58]
asciilifeform: i.e. retrieve all https://github.com/luser.keys , for all known values of luser [23:59]
* asciilifeform brb,food [23:59]
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