Forum logs for 09 Oct 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: tyvm for bringing that to my attention. i dropped the ball on service cutover. as mp astutely observed, the temporary host for these services is not a cuntoo, but some heathen convenience, conveniently different enough from my normal remote home that the logger for the ircbot refused to start, which (somehow!!!!!) fouled the bot's self reboot capabilities. [01:13]
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You're welcome. Message made it into a logged channel, glad you debugged and reported the experience. [01:15]
ben_vulpes: apologies for the degredation in service, i have personal irc logs and will stitch them back into history [01:16]
* BingoBoingo awaits signs of life from mocky in Sandy Uruguay [01:16]
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=46 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 10/06/2018 [01:31]
ben_vulpes: in boring meatnyooz i liquidated the corvette (at a 16 2/3% loss from purchase, notbad given the damage i did to it experimenting with exciting nonstandard control regimes), hired cleaners, scheduled pianoanchor for transfer to a good friend remaining in libtardistan, basement is packed girl has mucked augean stables of corporeal art school baggage, booked temporary housing at $dest and has been working the [01:33]
ben_vulpes: phones to line up nexthouse like a champ the only things left are to get someone to install grates over the roof vents, rent the house, and skeeeeeedaddle. [01:33]
ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-08-oct-2018#2483357 << this is what happened to that node when i ran it without the increased aggression patch [01:34]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 19:06 mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2018-8-31#416460 << mimi even longer ago ?! [01:34]
Mocky: I have arrived [02:06]
diana_coman: oh hey, how's Qatar, Mocky ? [02:08]
Mocky: reminds me of 29 palms california. I guess desert pretty much the same everywhere [02:09]
diana_coman: at least they have internet! [02:12]
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859485 >> we headed up the east coast from raleigh past dc, ny, and started over the atlantic at cape cod. shortly after cape cod we turned back to nyc. pilot said primary systems all functioning correctly but a backup system has a malfunction light on and they cant fly more than an hour from land like that. [02:22]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 16:24 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, in London though he did have a weird flight - went back to New York, repaired plane, went back [02:22]
Mocky: took them ~2hrs to fix and had to power down plane which drained the battery from some other system which then had to be recharged before we could leave [02:23]
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859497 >> not 30, 14 originally which was cut by 6 hours by repairs and heathrow shenanigans. [02:25]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 16:31 mircea_popescu: good thing he placed a 30 hour gap there lmao. "what are you going to do in heathrow for that long !? " "fly back and forth repairing planes." [02:25]
Mocky: I had planned to visit imperial war museum and british museum, but didn't make it to either. I did see wellington arch, hyde park, buckingham palace and assorted others [02:27]
Mocky: so many bicycles in london! roving packs of ~dozen queueing up at just about every crosswalk stop, at least where I was [02:30]
Mocky: ugh, it's mid morning. i barely slept two hours each of last two nights. gonna be a long day [02:54]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859699 << quite. [03:49]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 23:38 trinque: truth. the new voicing behavior oughta help when it comes about. [03:49]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859710 << wd! [03:51]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 06:06 Mocky: I have arrived [03:51]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859721 << so get some sleep. [03:53]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 06:54 Mocky: ugh, it's mid morning. i barely slept two hours each of last two nights. gonna be a long day [03:53]
mircea_popescu: why be up to watch the atlantic slide by anyways! [03:53]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859712 << congrats Mocky !! [09:09]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 06:09 Mocky: reminds me of 29 palms california. I guess desert pretty much the same everywhere [09:09]
BingoBoingo: Mocky: Congratulations, and yes feel free to sleep [10:22]
mod6: Hey! [10:28]
mod6: Glad to hear ya made it Mocky. :] [10:28]
Mocky: !!key Mocky [11:36]
Mocky: !!key diana_away [11:37]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/D6EC973F1D3C91CC1DD0AD43CF32BD2C54C2F93D.asc [11:37]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/D6EC973F1D3C91CC1DD0AD43CF32BD2C54C2F93D.asc [11:37]
Mocky: that doesn't seem right [11:37]
mircea_popescu: o.O [11:37]
mod6: that seems strange [11:37]
mircea_popescu: trinque wtf happened ?! DING DONG!!! [11:37]
Mocky: this is my fingerprint [11:37]
mircea_popescu: Mocky wait, you're really diana ?! [11:38]
mircea_popescu: NO WONDER SHE MET YOU [11:38]
asciilifeform: lol!! [11:38]
trinque: !!key diana_away [11:38]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/D6EC973F1D3C91CC1DD0AD43CF32BD2C54C2F93D.asc [11:38]
trinque: wat [11:38]
mircea_popescu: !!key diana_coman [11:38]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/E72DCCB73A5E06694C5CD781D5196EE6390F999E.asc [11:38]
mircea_popescu: !!key Mocky_away [11:38]
deedbot: Not registered. [11:38]
trinque: no idea I'll find out though. [11:38]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman did you register... mocky's key... as your away key ?! [11:38]
mircea_popescu: trinque this shouldn't be possible, they have to confirm a reg right ? [11:39]
trinque: no, unclaimed name fed a key gets that name [11:40]
mircea_popescu: ah, right right i recall now [11:41]
mircea_popescu: for noobs. [11:41]
trinque: yeah, open to changing, but that's how things stand [11:41]
mircea_popescu: maybe she had that in a buffer somewhere reg'd the wrong thing ? [11:41]
mircea_popescu: !!gettrust diana_away [11:41]
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 0 by 0 connections. [11:41]
trinque: possible. there isn't a codepath to change a key, so I'd have to ponder what else might've happened. [11:41]
Mocky: wot.deedbot.org page for Mocky shows diana_away's one rating [11:42]
mircea_popescu: haxx [11:42]
Mocky: and one rating is imposter! [11:42]
Mocky: mircea_popescu, knew! [11:43]
trinque: Mocky: that part makes sense, as the filename is the fprint, which is clearly a bug [11:43]
mircea_popescu: !!#s diana_away [11:43]
mircea_popescu: um lol [11:43]
mircea_popescu: !#s diana_away [11:43]
a111: 38 results for "diana_away", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=diana_away [11:43]
mircea_popescu: Mocky i absolutely was making a spurious joke no knowledge of anyu of this. [11:44]
Mocky: yeah, i get it. was just making spurious joke of my own [11:44]
mircea_popescu: kk. [11:44]
mircea_popescu: well, in a situation... better be plain. [11:44]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in private : <nicoleci> now back to summarizing the logs everyone laughhs at :( <nicoleci> my lifes work <mircea_popescu> :D <mircea_popescu> can you believe how your life turned out btw ? <mircea_popescu> i mean, even in your darkest nightmares, "ima spend all day working really hard at this super tough task, only for everyone to laugh at my work" <nicoleci> nope, still unbelievable.. not sure when that reality wil [11:47]
mircea_popescu: l set in or if i should get off to it or cry :) <mircea_popescu> :D <mircea_popescu> i gotta say... when it comes to quality torture... i have no equal. [11:47]
mircea_popescu: thereby proving the point. [11:47]
mod6: I don't think I laughed, it's super hard job, even if you know what is going on. Can't imagine if you don't. [11:50]
mircea_popescu: yes but unlike all these other assholes you're a kind and caring soul, mod6 [11:50]
mod6: Heheh. Maybe so. I'd like to think I'm getting more crusty in my old age, but maybe not! [11:52]
lobbes: congrats Mocky on the safe landing! [12:12]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859601 << far away they are. not too long ago I went to an "Understanding Cryptocurrencies and Blockchain" webinar type thing here at $usg.toobigtofailbank. As you'd expect, was filled to the brim with such lulzgems as "Unlike bonds/equities, cryptocurrency has no intrinsic value. No way to establish price point!!". imo They are so far from reality it isn't even [12:12]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 18:56 diana_coman: it's more a matter of wtf to do to get through to them in the least seeing how they are so ...far away on all dimensions to any reality [12:12]
lobbes: deliberate misinformation, it is simply that they have ~0 information to begin with [12:12]
mircea_popescu: i can believe. [12:13]
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=47 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 10/07/2018 [12:19]
Mocky: thx lobbes. and thx asciilifeform, BingoBoingo, mod6, mircea_popescu [12:21]
phf: asciilifeform: apparently it's not been taught [12:28]
phf: trinque: can you please update my wot key one last time. http://btcbase.org/data/wot/phf.asc [12:30]
phf: i had expiration set on it, which i finally removed for good. the thinking at the time was that i didn't really trust my opsec (mac was still in the loop), but it wasn't much of thinking since the mechanism is promisetronic anyway. i also took an opportunity to clean it up off extra "identities" and random signatures [12:31]
phf: in related apparently you can't have a key without a subkey. the whole primary key/subkey mechanism appears to be mandatory. i think asciilifeform might've ranted about it, but i've not seen it mentioned in the logs [12:32]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, o.O apparently I ...did and I found out how, as well: the crappy lappy on which I had the away account had imported a few public keys, first of which Mocky's [12:37]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so you literally exported his key as yours ? [12:37]
mircea_popescu: trinque ^ apparently pebkac [12:38]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, yes [12:38]
mircea_popescu: phf we've all ranted about it at some time or another. needless to say replacement rsatron does not include idiotic half-baked state machines. much like trb-i doesn't include "accounts" nonsense. [12:38]
phf: i was under the impression that the subkey gets created as a default genkey behavior, but then you can shuffle things around through edit-key. if you were to remove the subkey through edit key leaving only primary, gnupg refuses to use the primary for encryption. [12:40]
diana_coman: sorry about the mess there trinque [12:41]
phf: but yeah, it comes up from time to time. i finally took time to observe the mechanism in action [12:41]
diana_coman: but hm, does this mean that basically anyone can register the public keys and mess up the http://wot.deedbot.org/ ? [12:44]
diana_coman: !!reputation Mocky [12:45]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/UsOJx/?raw=true [12:45]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman only on new names. [12:45]
mircea_popescu: oh shit... you mean, register ~already seen~ pubkey for ~new name~ ?! [12:46]
diana_coman: aha [12:46]
diana_coman: the !!reputation thing is correct there though so it might be only the visualizer [12:46]
mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen. [12:46]
mircea_popescu: !!reputation mocky [12:47]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TJE4r/?raw=true [12:47]
diana_coman: !!reputation diana_away [12:47]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/f4VxW/?raw=true [12:47]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know what'd have been the lulz of all time ? if both pastes had the same 5digit id [12:47]
mircea_popescu: then we'd know this is a [12:47]
mircea_popescu: NIGHTMARE [12:47]
diana_coman: lol [12:48]
asciilifeform: !#s from:asciilifeform subkey [12:50]
a111: 26 results for "from:asciilifeform subkey", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aasciilifeform%20subkey [12:50]
asciilifeform: phf: ^ [12:50]
asciilifeform: e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-05#1360580 , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-05#1360581 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719300 [12:51]
a111: Logged on 2016-01-05 01:37 asciilifeform: my main objection to subkey as implemented in gpg is that IT DOES NOT TELL YOU OR EVEN LET YOU CHOOSE with which modulus (i.e. which sub) it actually signs with ! [12:51]
a111: Logged on 2016-01-05 01:37 asciilifeform: anyone recall how mircea_popescu spewed chunks when i pointed out that he's been signing with a subkey and not with the magical modulus ? [12:51]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 00:49 asciilifeform: the funniest bit is that anybody who spends a few $10k to find sha1 collision, can take it one step further and make a valid subkey for asciilifeform's, or mircea_popescu's, etc. key [12:51]
asciilifeform: plenty of lulz in there [12:51]
* asciilifeform brb,meat [12:51]
mircea_popescu: let's just not even. [12:51]
phf: !#born god [13:03]
phf: !#born god [13:04]
phf: oops [13:04]
phf: !#born god [13:05]
Mocky: existential issues? [13:06]
mircea_popescu: off to the beach. plox not replace my key meanwhile. [13:09]
mircea_popescu: !#born dog [13:09]
phf: !#born god [13:09]
a111: I haven't seen god before [13:09]
phf: !#born dog [13:09]
a111: 2012-09-04 <dog> http://img3i.www.spoki.lv/upload2/articles/51/516169/images/HELLO-YES-THIS-IS-DOG-11.jpg >> http://btcbase.org/log/2012-09-04#-282610 [13:09]
mod6: :D [13:10]
asciilifeform: oh hey ty phf ! [13:58]
* asciilifeform back from dentist... new one better than prev, nao with anaesthetic! tho costs ~3x moar, pretty impressive inflatola, ~1k orcbux for ~halfhr of drill [13:59]
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859786 -> I tend to agree given how easily I could tell the poor lecturer what was in his inherited slides *before I even saw them*, I guess they literally have (echo of an echo)^n and it was anyway just some hearsay to start with [14:11]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:12 lobbes: deliberate misinformation, it is simply that they have ~0 information to begin with [14:11]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too? [14:15]
diana_coman: Mocky, btw sorry for the mess up with your public key did it actually create a problem other than the wrong wot.deedbot graph? [14:20]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859844 << if not counting the time -- then just about == , i expect, to a few % [14:23]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:15 diana_coman: asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too? [14:23]
asciilifeform: by that token, cuba prolly even cheaper ( tho getting to it from the reich is a little tricky ) [14:25]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859842 << erry so often, when using searchtrons, i run across some slide deck from e.g. uni of bangalore etc., they invariably have this flavour, where it is clear that deck itself was made from googlelolade , [14:27]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:11 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859786 -> I tend to agree given how easily I could tell the poor lecturer what was in his inherited slides *before I even saw them*, I guess they literally have (echo of an echo)^n and it was anyway just some hearsay to start with [14:27]
asciilifeform: with distinct smell of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575059 [14:27]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:04 asciilifeform: 'As more people with less commitment to quality and much less attention to detail got involved in writing it, its educational value diminished, too. It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an in [14:27]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's not as much those particular slides themselves - it's simply that I haven't seen anything *other that that* in *any* "academia" material/discussion anywhere [14:29]
diana_coman: granted, I did not search for this but still [14:29]
diana_coman: (so perhaps there ...is somewhere, well hidden?) [14:29]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: erry so often i try an' search for some symptom that heathens know of trb etc., ~never found [14:29]
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859845 >> just a moment of confusion [14:30]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:20 diana_coman: Mocky, btw sorry for the mess up with your public key did it actually create a problem other than the wrong wot.deedbot graph? [14:30]
asciilifeform: ohai Mocky ! how is desert planet ? [14:31]
diana_coman: Mocky, ah, phew still: sorry about it [14:31]
Mocky: asciilifeform, nice and warm. encountered a traffic wtf. stop light in the middle of the city with literal 10 minute cycle time in one direction ~20 seconds. took 3 cycles for my taxi to get thru [14:37]
asciilifeform: eh we have these here in washingtonistan [14:37]
Mocky: diana_coman, no worries, prolly better to expose the issue sooner than later [14:37]
Mocky: the building style is very different from what I've seen before, but ~all the signs include english subtitles for traffic and store fronts [14:45]
Mocky: speaking of streets, street names appear totally optional, address can be a paragraph long description. [14:47]
diana_coman: ahaha, costa rica style [14:48]
* asciilifeform recalls mailing a FG to CR and address wouldn't fit on the customs form [14:50]
Mocky: it was funny to fly over the rural areas of qatar and see so many traffic circles and ~25% have a branch that dead ends into desert. prepared for growth i guess [14:52]
diana_coman: hm, speaking of costa rica style...do they actually have hot water at the taps in costa rica (i.e. not shower only)? [14:52]
diana_coman: in qatar* [14:52]
diana_coman: in costa rica I know they don't [14:52]
asciilifeform: nuts! i had nfi [14:53]
asciilifeform: barbarism. [14:53]
Mocky: i don't even know yet! [14:53]
asciilifeform: Mocky: does the place live up to the reputation for 'top smog' ? [14:54]
Mocky: the air looks quite smoggy, but also over the gulf and away from the city to the point where I wondered if it was actually smog [14:56]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, in some places they do but it wasn't the norm or everywhere/by default [14:56]
asciilifeform: Mocky: i seem to recall that they have petro-smog [14:57]
Mocky: makes sense [14:57]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859791 << no problem, done. [15:14]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:30 phf: trinque: can you please update my wot key one last time. http://btcbase.org/data/wot/phf.asc [15:14]
trinque: hrm, still showing as expired [15:15]
asciilifeform: !!key phf [15:48]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/BDDE12104FE81BE7F83B698F5356DE4752432A9E.asc [15:48]
asciilifeform: ^ loox like the old one ? [15:51]
asciilifeform: or hm no, has a new sig with today's date [15:52]
asciilifeform: confirmed that gpg still thinks 'expired' after eating [15:54]
asciilifeform: ^ phf ! [15:54]
asciilifeform: pretty odd tho, per my understanding it oughta work [15:55]
* trinque will bbl to further dissect [15:55]
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JSaJ4/?raw=true << disasm, ftr [15:55]
asciilifeform: phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859792 << ftr the crud-scrubbing didn't work either, various old cruft still apparently in there [15:56]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:31 phf: i had expiration set on it, which i finally removed for good. the thinking at the time was that i didn't really trust my opsec (mac was still in the loop), but it wasn't much of thinking since the mechanism is promisetronic anyway. i also took an opportunity to clean it up off extra "identities" and random signatures [15:56]
asciilifeform: tho it could be artifact of gpg on trinque end, depending on how he keeps these ( if you use the built-in 'import' mechanism, it never throws out cruft ) [15:56]
* trinque will take a signed message from phf on what cruft to saw off [15:57]
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too? << Also that sound like maybe 100-120 USD in Uruguay [16:55]
phf: trinque: i think something failed in the deedbot update, because the scrubbed key at link is proper. i've tested it, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cIIG6/?raw=true [17:06]
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> speaking of streets, street names appear totally optional, address can be a paragraph long description. << AHA, Montevideo killed that with sane street numbering, but apparently that happens in the boonies here [17:07]
asciilifeform: phf: try the one that deedbot returns to !!key , it dun go [17:07]
asciilifeform: oh nm already did [17:08]
asciilifeform: ( i get exactly that pub 4096R/52432A9E 2013-10-06 [expired: 2018-10-07] ) [17:08]
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, the paste shows that i grab keys from both urls, and the deedbot one is still the old key [17:08]
asciilifeform: phf: the deedbot one still does contain a sign with today's date tho [17:09]
asciilifeform: so can't be entirely old key [17:09]
asciilifeform: see lns. 1102 and 1344 of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859891 [17:10]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 19:55 asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JSaJ4/?raw=true << disasm, ftr [17:10]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno if you know how the local racket worx, but 120bux is what i actually paid on site but if i add up the insurance premiums, it's ~breakeven [17:13]
asciilifeform: ( twist : if you dun buy the insurance, the tooth-diddlers & quacks charge 2x ) [17:14]
phf: asciilifeform: it looks like key updates got merge into the old key, rather than replacin it. the pub is the same, and hasn't been update (still marked as expired), but sub has been replaced, and is now "expired: never". it also added the new identity (where i removed the email) to the rest of the existing identities [17:14]
asciilifeform: phf: it's what i suspected aha [17:15]
asciilifeform: gpg --import behaves like this. [17:15]
asciilifeform: somehow on koch planet, is seen as acceptable.. [17:15]
asciilifeform: what i am puzzled by, is why i did not have this headache myself when i de-expired mine last yr [17:15]
phf: asciilifeform: did yours had both pub and sub set to expire, or only sub? you also probably has only one identity in your key [17:16]
asciilifeform: yea iirc only sub was expireful [17:17]
asciilifeform: and yes i had '1 identity' , why would i have moar [17:17]
asciilifeform: what useful does it do [17:17]
phf: hmm, oddly enough your old pub is also marked as expire [17:19]
asciilifeform: !!key asciilifeform [17:20]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/17215D118B7239507FAFED98B98228A001ABFFC7.asc [17:20]
phf: this is your old key http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nAdrX/?raw=true [17:20]
asciilifeform: aah the prev yes [17:20]
trinque: I used the gpg --import, which I gather didn't work [17:21]
phf: trinque: yeah, it basically appended all the new bits on top, and didn't reset the pub key's expire. you would have to do --delete-key before --import [17:22]
asciilifeform: phf: you should still be able to override the clock and sign a letter to trinque with old pub [17:23]
asciilifeform: ( is why i de-expired mine, so i dun have to ask trinque for this favour again ) [17:24]
* trinque would prefer phf just sign "I would like trinque to delete my key and reimport X" for sanity's sake, as it saves me from having to reason through whether this new key is an acceptable substitute for prev, incurring all the "how does gpg really work again?" and so on. [17:31]
phf: trinque: ack, but i've also noticed that if i were to import ascii's new key over ascii's old key it resets the expirations on both pub and sub, so let me figure out what's going [17:33]
trinque: kk [17:33]
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell Mocky Don't forget to foto blog [18:40]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/10/google-aborts-google-plus-after-leak-in-seventh-year-of-life/ << Qntra - Google Aborts "Google Plus" After Leak In Seventh Year Of Life [19:12]
asciilifeform: lol wtf was 'google plus'. [19:14]
asciilifeform: apparently asciilifeform is insufficiently expert entomologist... dun recall what it was. [19:14]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the google thing Linus kept his almost blog on [19:15]
asciilifeform: lolyea got this from the qntra [19:15]
BingoBoingo: But that's about it [19:15]
asciilifeform: reminds me of those blox of flats in bmore, where city brings out bulldozer when the 1 remaining old d00d in it finally keels [19:16]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: recall, coupla yrs ago asciilifeform considered to buy one, then found he dun quite have the budget for the req'd terraforming [19:17]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, kinda what it was [19:23]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in archaeology : https://archive.is/QVIlg << rare example of non-google arm lappy. ( spoiler : out of print ) [19:47]
asciilifeform: google somehow killed'em all, afaik. [19:47]
asciilifeform: unobtainium, near as i can tell, at any price. [19:48]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/otmVF << in misc. heathen lulz. [21:18]
asciilifeform: in related lulz, according to the above heathen noad surveyor , #1 pseudonode hoster aint lulazon any moar, but : hetzner ( 1029 , vs lulazon's 726 ) [21:21]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ltRHd << per same, of the 4 public noadez in BingoBoingostan, 3 are in pizarro [21:22]
asciilifeform: the exception : r179-25-205-162.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy << dialup ?! [21:23]
asciilifeform: qatar >> https://archive.is/uy5I6 << nuffing but prb... perhaps Mocky will fix.. [21:24]
asciilifeform: in mircea_popescustan, claims 9 , all prb. [21:25]
asciilifeform: ( granted if mircea_popescu has a mpb noad there, it won't show in in this heathen www , iirc they filter vers. #s <0.8 ) [21:26]
asciilifeform: imho could be interesting to attempt a similar survey , but without the asinine filtration ( and on top of this, to forgo listing the liquishit that makes up 99+% of the supposed net ) [21:29]
asciilifeform: ... either via the usual means (instrumented node, spilling its peer table) or via brute force ( port scan 8333 ) [21:30]
BingoBoingo: And we have a netsplit [21:47]
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun. [23:26]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859841 << hory shit, i still pay ~40. includes pretty girl, nice view, lots and lots of hygienic ritualism... and anesthetic, tho i don't take that. [23:34]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 17:59 asciilifeform back from dentist... new one better than prev, nao with anaesthetic! tho costs ~3x moar, pretty impressive inflatola, ~1k orcbux for ~halfhr of drill [23:34]
asciilifeform: i recall trilema piece even [23:41]
asciilifeform: ugh wat's going on with the log bots... both split..? [23:41]
asciilifeform: a111 and mimisbrunnr seem to be alive but not logging, from where i stand [23:41]
asciilifeform: hm, loox like the fleanode oddity mircea_popescu alluded to once, where mysterious 5min lag b/w fleanets [23:42]
phf: asciilifeform: i saw the last messages on btcbase, but i'm curious what if anything got lost [23:42]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859861 << there's a famous half hour one in boston. [23:42]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:37 Mocky: asciilifeform, nice and warm. encountered a traffic wtf. stop light in the middle of the city with literal 10 minute cycle time in one direction ~20 seconds. took 3 cycles for my taxi to get thru [23:42]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859865 << roflmao. [23:42]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:47 Mocky: speaking of streets, street names appear totally optional, address can be a paragraph long description. [23:42]
mircea_popescu: phf wait a111 is fucked ? [23:42]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859875 << i guarantee you bogota is top smog. [23:42]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:54 asciilifeform: Mocky: does the place live up to the reputation for 'top smog' ? [23:42]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859895 << alf has a point, the correct process for updating key should include delete old one before import new one. otherwise you just end up with dysfunctional historical midden. [23:42]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 19:57 trinque will take a signed message from phf on what cruft to saw off [23:42]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't see a111 speaking at all [23:42]
mircea_popescu: wowza. SEVEN minute delay. [23:42]
asciilifeform: yea i just got a long burst of queued mircea_popescu [23:43]
phf: yeah, same [23:43]
mircea_popescu: Oct 09 21:35:43 <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859861 Oct 09 21:42:13 <a111> Logged on 2018-10-09 18:37 Mocky: asciilifeform, nice and warm [23:43]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:37 Mocky: asciilifeform, nice and warm. encountered a traffic wtf. stop light in the middle of the city with literal 10 minute cycle time in one direction ~20 seconds. took 3 cycles for my taxi to get thru [23:43]
mircea_popescu: get a load of that. [23:43]
mircea_popescu: ftr, my lag (to card.freenode.net ircd-seven-1.1.7 DOQRSZaghilopswz CFILMPQSbcefgijklmnopqrstvz bkloveqjfI ) is 0.0s [23:44]
phf: it's definitely a lag between the irc servers, because i got the same burst of your messages, while i was getting ascii in realtime [23:44]
phf: or was i! [23:45]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859930 << funny, girls were saying exactly this in between 8 foot waves / mouthfuls of gravel [23:45]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 22:40 BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell Mocky Don't forget to foto blog [23:45]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859933 << wasn't this the wanna-be google facebook ? born out of some dispute where facebook was gonna wean them off its ugc feedpipe ? [23:47]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 23:14 asciilifeform: apparently asciilifeform is insufficiently expert entomologist... dun recall what it was. [23:47]
Mocky: good morning [23:48]
mircea_popescu: heya Mocky [23:49]
Mocky: foto blog is in the pipeline, sometime after figuring out coffee and food [23:49]
mircea_popescu: do muslims still not have strip clubs because females dancing is immoral ? [23:51]
Mocky: sunrise at 5:30, coffee shops opening at 7 or 8, *grunt* [23:51]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-10#1859951 << i'd rather see the latter, if anyone feels like running it again. [23:52]
a111: Logged on 2018-10-10 01:30 asciilifeform: ... either via the usual means (instrumented node, spilling its peer table) or via brute force ( port scan 8333 ) [23:52]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which whatever happend to spyked ! [23:52]
asciilifeform: !#seen spyked [23:52]
a111: 2018-08-09 <spyked> some tests using sbcl, for reference: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lMcV9/?raw=true [23:52]
mircea_popescu: Mocky hotels usually have 24/7 coffee! [23:52]
Mocky: in this neighborhood evidently 24hr coffee = starbucks [23:54]
BingoBoingo: I don't think our Starbucks opens until 10 am [23:54]
Mocky: i'll be damned if i came 7 thousand miles to drink starbucks [23:55]
BingoBoingo: You should have seen the lines in April when it first opened [23:56]
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