Forum logs for 08 Apr 2017
| mircea_popescu: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-07-apr-2017#2265553 << not a bad idea. blog fare if nothjing else. | [00:05] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-07 17:31 danielpbarron: i can do an unboxing video or something. i have 5.5 through 5.8 in original sealed packaging | [00:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1640387 << ~everyone can do just about anything without risking such a wonder seeing how the shit dun werk. | [00:13] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-07 22:15 trinque: by the nato precedent set by turkey, I'd expect russia can down an american plane or two without risking a nuclear exchange, eh? | [00:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | "fowl play" lmao | [00:15] |
| BingoBoingo: | No fowl language, so shut the fuck up about the peacocks and peahens! | [00:16] |
| BingoBoingo: | And don't even get started on the peacucks | [00:18] |
| BingoBoingo: | pete_dushenski: When do we get G5 trb sync stats? | [00:20] |
| shinohai: | No need to get cocky | [00:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [00:22] |
| BingoBoingo: | Peabull https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4d/9e/2b/4d9e2bd935b4ebe1c9910c17500ca955.jpg | [00:23] |
| BingoBoingo: | peacuck http://www.viralboo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/big-beautiful-white-peacock-hd-wallpaper-17.jpg | [00:24] |
| shinohai: | Beautiful bird, lovely plumage. | [00:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | lmao | [01:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!up derpshart | [01:19] |
| deedbot: | derpshart voiced for 30 minutes. | [01:19] |
| Framedragger: | pete_dushenski: ty :) | [08:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | all these turdwads "Talking about their experience" holy shit | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | first it was "get a college degree doing no work -- just on the basis of your current experience!11" now it's "draw a salary doing nothing other than recounting the psychogenic hum in your otherwise empty brainbox". | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | walking, talking, rotting meat-based FUCKGOATS. | [09:25] |
| shinohai: | !~ticker --market all | [10:52] |
| jhvh1: | shinohai: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1189.39, vol: 3981.41960638 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1176.095, vol: 3888.70242 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1191.9, vol: 13853.34404636 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1035.309051, vol: 1580.14100000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1190.105, vol: 1439.15594448 | Volume-weighted last average: 1178.90737794 | [10:52] |
| Framedragger: | trinque: does `!!deed` work when issued over privmsg? i just did that and then realised that may it's not supposed to work that way? | [12:22] |
| Framedragger: | maybe* | [12:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | gotta do it here. | [12:25] |
| Framedragger: | aite. | [12:25] |
| Framedragger: | !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9LRgl/?raw=true | [12:26] |
| deedbot: | accepted: 1 | [12:26] |
| Framedragger: | magic | [12:26] |
| asciilifeform: | in other lulz, https://bitcrust.org << tardanoization of nqb storage algo. | [13:00] |
| asciilifeform: | stole entire algo, as described here, lock stock and barrel implemented in shitlang | [13:03] |
| shinohai: | Written in ...... Rust. | [13:03] |
| Framedragger: | if it's a good idea it must be stolen from asciilifeform. | [13:04] |
| asciilifeform: | Framedragger: this particular one -- yes, stolen. | [13:04] |
| asciilifeform: | or what, 'was always obvious', just had to wait until now 'for reasons'. | [13:04] |
| asciilifeform: | !#s siberian river | [13:06] |
| a111: | 2 results for "siberian river", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=siberian%20river | [13:06] |
| asciilifeform: | + http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-13#794524 . | [13:07] |
| a111: | Logged on 2014-08-13 14:40 asciilifeform: 'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are, then just swoop in and collect... This means the only way they can get in is if you let them get in. Dont let them get in for cheap - they have no business here.' (mp's http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar | [13:07] |
| Framedragger: | i'm curious, what do you mean by 'now'? | [13:07] |
| Framedragger: | did you describe the idea before, say, august 2016? | [13:07] |
| asciilifeform: | what part of the linked item verifiably existed in aug '16 ? | [13:08] |
| Framedragger: | https://github.com/tomasvdw/bitcrust/commit/534e1afcaefc80dc7e64ee46768110cae5737e2d | [13:09] |
| Framedragger: | inb4 'oh, git, fu' | [13:09] |
| asciilifeform: | so far i see a shitoshi block format parser | [13:10] |
| * Framedragger | gets into situtations where he's forced by himself to read rust code on git. can't blame anyone | [13:12] |
| Framedragger: | do you recall when you described the storage of nqb? | [13:13] |
| Framedragger: | march ~11 maybe | [13:13] |
| Framedragger: | i see that part of the related turd is here (5 march): https://github.com/tomasvdw/bitcrust/commit/01001d9f6033426624fba570da437a0a316993c0 | [13:14] |
| * Framedragger | checking some more because curious | [13:15] |
| Framedragger: | aha, 27 feb: https://github.com/tomasvdw/bitcrust/commit/94b29e3cc21369e7a55b5ad342cefa93f920dcfb | [13:15] |
| Framedragger: | from what i take it, 'spent tree' is the relevant notion here. tell me if i'm wrong tho (very much could be). but if i'm not, then - 22 dec 2016: https://github.com/tomasvdw/bitcrust/commit/ac4f4eb12c7a202a3971f782f92b741431ff75ed (and commits thereafter). | [13:17] |
| Framedragger: | you could of course say that 'git doesnt prove anything', and i'll have to agree. but if you allow that, then it's reasonable to say that 'unsigned irc logs dont prove anything, either', from the point of view of the counterparty. i won't say more, only that this 'thief!!' is very unconvincing | [13:18] |
| Framedragger: | (also, my mp-emulator is saying "why do you spend energy challenging these and not challenging the empire", and my response is that i don't give the privilege to the empire of even *challenging* their shit they're not worth it imho. this all just to say that take it easy) | [13:20] |
| asciilifeform: | Framedragger: tbh i don't actually give enough of a shit to try to cut apart the ball of yarn in shitlang -- what part stolen, when, from which logs ( our discussion of block/tx storage has been running for ages ) | [13:36] |
| Framedragger: | certainly not worth your time. and i understand. just find this 'call thief by default' funny but it's probably borne of experience, simply | [13:37] |
| asciilifeform: | the glossy www, for instance, is new -- domain bought on apr. 1 of '17 | [13:38] |
| asciilifeform: | registered by a certain van der Wansem of 'btcsoccer' ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=544115.0 ? https://github.com/tomasvdw/btcsoccer ? or some other, unrelated crackpottery ? or plain disinfo..? ) | [13:39] |
| Framedragger: | lol yeah. | [13:40] |
| asciilifeform: | https://github.com/tomasvdw/bitcrust/graphs/code-frequency << also lulzy. | [13:43] |
| asciilifeform: | Framedragger: unrelatedly is it you who has the 1/minute wget on phuctor ? | [13:55] |
| Framedragger: | hmm, certainly not. do you see the ip? | [13:55] |
| asciilifeform: | 5.196.95.135 | [13:55] |
| Framedragger: | fuck, that's siphnos' ip | [13:55] |
| Framedragger: | checking. | [13:55] |
| Framedragger: | that wasn't supposed to be once a minute. sorry about that. | [13:55] |
| asciilifeform: | i thought i oughta ask before i blackhole the entire subnet. | [13:55] |
| Framedragger: | (i had changed it to 30min for index stats page) | [13:55] |
| Framedragger: | :/ | [13:55] |
| Framedragger: | how the fuck did i screw this up. crontab is http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/mYvHM/?raw=true | [13:57] |
| Framedragger: | hm. | [13:57] |
| Framedragger: | asciilifeform: still wget'ing every minute? the 1min frequency was the initial frequency which i had promptly changed at timestamp http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638989 | [13:59] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-06 15:53 Framedragger: done | [13:59] |
| Framedragger: | asciilifeform: script log says the attempts are at the right frequency: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rUTs3/?raw=true - but i'm turning off these two now, for the time being. | [14:01] |
| asciilifeform: | looks like it's off. | [14:02] |
| Framedragger: | so the 1min crawls, just to confirm - they were older, right? i did start with 1min on thursday then turned it off on request then re-enabled once/30min for stats page, once/60min for phuctored and once/60min for dupes. | [14:03] |
| asciilifeform: | nope | [14:10] |
| asciilifeform: | they were until 10 or so min. ago. | [14:10] |
| Framedragger: | wtf. i'll beat myself with a crontab manual, then | [14:10] |
| Framedragger: | asciilifeform: for my own education, if not too much trouble, when you have a minute, could you paste a few log lines from the webserver relating to the 1min wget'er? | [14:11] |
| asciilifeform: | http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/hhxxQ/?raw=true << sample | [14:12] |
| Framedragger: | ty! | [14:12] |
| Framedragger: | (daaamn, i screwed up with cron.) | [14:14] |
| Framedragger: | asciilifeform: sorry about that | [14:16] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://www.africanamerica.org/topic/latinos-ethnic-cleansing-african-americans-in-la?nc=1 | [15:40] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2014/06/03/tensions-rise-at-digital-harbor-high-between-african-american-latino-students/ | [15:44] |
| shinohai: | https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/850350068049747968 | [15:46] |
| Framedragger: | well certainly not when MagicalTux buys a $460mn frappuccino https://blog.bigterminal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/protest-confronts-karpeles.jpg | [15:50] |
| Framedragger: | shinohai: ^ | [15:50] |
| shinohai: | `FagicalSux` | [15:51] |
| jurov: | coinbr orders fixed. mircea_popescu pls to process | [15:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | ty | [16:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | Moar Ferguson http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/teen-mcdonald-gang-attack-punished-terrorizing-rikers-article-1.3022777 | [16:07] |
| asciilifeform: | 'Buying a cup of coffee is not a micro transaction' 'SegWit and LN and you can buy coffee again. That simple. You are choosing power and politics over coffee.' << lol | [16:24] |
| shinohai: | TIL the ability to buy coffee is what Satoshi envisioned all along. | [16:37] |
| shinohai: | To be fair I did buy several bricks of Bustelo with BTC once, but hardly a cup. | [16:39] |
| phf: | i was trying to find tuomov's rant from 2007 or so (the guy behind Ion) where he basically said that anti-aliasing is a kludge, and we won't even need it once the dpi is high enough | [17:06] |
| jurov: | phf: that was x-post from #clim? :) | [17:09] |
| phf: | couldn't find it, but he was basically correct. after jumping through a lot of retarded hoops i got to run xquartz on a retina mac at 1-to-1 pixel, and pretty much any of the type1 fonts at 230 or so look quite good | [17:09] |
| phf: | jurov: kind of, in a roundabout way. i gave up on mcclim and that whole crowd last time they were mentioned here, but i'm slowly reviving allegro's clim2 | [17:12] |
| phf: | there's a working purey xlib backend that uses very minimal decoration and server side font-rendering. i'm trying to figure out how to make it look like not-shit, without compromising the integrity | [17:14] |
| jurov: | iirc clim's problem is not so much AA, but butt-ugly widgets? | [17:15] |
| phf: | that's mcclim specifically | [17:15] |
| phf: | well, fwiw i've no idea if you can make clim non-ugly (i'm not even sure at this point what "ugly" means. you certainly can't trivially make it look the way "people come to expect") | [17:17] |
| phf: | but mcclim made some decisions early on, where the default x widgets set was designed to ~look~ like popular the time "athena" widget set. which made the whole thing even uglier. | [17:18] |
| phf: | like https://common-lisp.net/project/climacs/images/screenshots/old/swine-ss.png | [17:18] |
| jurov: | well, are there screenshots for clim2 ? | [17:19] |
| phf: | well, that's the thing, the original backend from clim2 goes all the way back to genera, and it's literally all solid 1-pixel lines, and bulk of the display is text. | [17:20] |
| phf: | like http://www.ifis.uni-luebeck.de/~moeller/uims-clim/genera-fs.gif | [17:20] |
| jurov: | however, i personally have no issues with ugliness. i hate most if it opaquely monopolizes event loop (like qt) and then networking is a problem | [17:20] |
| phf: | or https://symbolics.lisp.engineer/content/images/2016/08/Screen-Shot-2016-08-28-at-3-43-06-PM.png | [17:21] |
| phf: | like above is not clim, but genera's flavor's bade gui, but same principle | [17:21] |
| ben_vulpes: | jurov: qt necessarily requires performing networking on the ui thread? | [18:01] |
| ben_vulpes: | phf: i would be happy to try living in either of those 'ui's | [18:03] |
| ben_vulpes: | nobody needed gradients-twiddled-per-local-magnetic-field anyways | [18:04] |
| asciilifeform: | the bolix screenshits, interestingly, i do not find ugly | [18:18] |
| asciilifeform: | i quite like the high-contrast pure b&w thing. | [18:18] |
| asciilifeform: | the clim -- different story. | [18:18] |
| asciilifeform: | looks like shit. | [18:18] |
| asciilifeform: | possibly part of it is that the bolix font does not look pixellated. | [18:19] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-08#1640547 << but also the, e.g., grey->white conjunction, makes for 'low contrast' feel, blur. | [18:20] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-08 21:18 phf: like https://common-lisp.net/project/climacs/images/screenshots/old/swine-ss.png | [18:20] |
| asciilifeform: | ditto grey/black | [18:20] |
| asciilifeform: | distinct windows3.1 flavour. | [18:20] |
| asciilifeform: | the popup crapola, also, wtf, '90s microshit called, wants its ui back. | [18:21] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-08#1640534 << gurl dun like the disciplinary-sanitarium of 'civilized society' and gets diagnosed, unsurprisingly, with вялотекущая шизофрения (tm)(r)(su) | [18:44] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-08 20:07 BingoBoingo: Moar Ferguson http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/teen-mcdonald-gang-attack-punished-terrorizing-rikers-article-1.3022777 | [18:44] |
| BingoBoingo: | aha | [19:29] |
| shinohai: | https://twitter.com/HillaryWarnedUs | [19:49] |
| shinohai: | "We didn't listen to her, and now it's too late" | [19:50] |
| BingoBoingo: | !~bcstats | [20:19] |
| jhvh1: | BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 461033 | Current Difficulty: 4.99635929816E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 461663 | Next Difficulty In: 630 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 13 hours, 16 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [20:19] |
| deedbot: | http://www.contravex.com/2017/04/08/sky-cats-and-ice-skates/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Sky cats and ice skates. | [20:21] |
| danielpbarron: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637510 << hah! this is because of the rick and morty season 3 premier. am I the only fan here? | [22:00] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-05 00:04 shinohai: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8lCsRKUAAE1n-2.jpg 82 bids ffs | [22:00] |
| shinohai: | Are you THAT BIG a fan danielpbarron that you'd pay ~83 BTC for some sauce ? | [22:04] |
| ben_vulpes: | from the interesting-claims-department: "we show that our targeted stack-spraying approach allows attackers to reliably control more than 91% of the Linux kernel stack, which, in combination with uninitialized-use vulnerabilities, suffices for a privilege escalation attack." | [22:13] |
| ben_vulpes: | http://archive.is/91Yho | [22:15] |
| ben_vulpes: | google unturds pdfs now? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~klu38/publications/ubi-ndss17.pdf | [22:15] |
| ben_vulpes: | not even impossible to read in lynx | [22:16] |
| shinohai: | O.o | [22:26] |
| danielpbarron: | shinohai, no i would not. might be adult swim bidding it up as a promo. On related note, wendy's fastfood chain is helping some highschool kid break world record retwats to promote their "chicken" nuggets. more than a million bots obliged in one day. goal is 18 million | [22:34] |
| shinohai: | kek | [22:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | sooo... i went to this russian bath/blinyi house for a... russian rock concer. | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-08#1640497 << you're goingt to have a default. which default are you going to have ? | [22:44] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-08 17:37 Framedragger: certainly not worth your time. and i understand. just find this 'call thief by default' funny but it's probably borne of experience, simply | [22:44] |
| shinohai: | hah mircea_popescu .... you survived the Russian chicks WITH NO POGROM! | [22:45] |
| ben_vulpes: | danielpbarron: i enjoy the wendy's twitter | [22:46] |
| ben_vulpes: | not to the extent that i enjoy agent orange's, but every now and again i see a stack like http://imgur.com/gallery/yNlZI and get a few chuckles out of it | [22:46] |
| ben_vulpes: | http://i.imgur.com/4nvPOF2.png for example is funny. i like the interbrand hostility. | [22:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | actually... the "russian rock concert" was a chick barely qualified to be the hottie in average senior hs class doing karaoke. her jeans were adorned with a scarf underlining her completely virginal inability to use her hips, and moreover she had one motor glove on, so it's ok. | [22:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | but, get this. i ask for tea, girl promises in approximate spanish (do youspeak english ? nope. french ? nope.) that she'll show me. comes over with a bunch of early grey paper bags and cups of hot water. | [22:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | NO FUCKING SAMOVAR. wtf is even the point, call it russian wanna-be house then | [22:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-08#1640532 << will do yeh | [22:50] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-08 19:53 jurov: coinbr orders fixed. mircea_popescu pls to process | [22:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-08#1640545 << actually a new aesthetic would bne quite welcome. the apple shit died with jobs. | [22:51] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-04-08 21:17 phf: well, fwiw i've no idea if you can make clim non-ugly (i'm not even sure at this point what "ugly" means. you certainly can't trivially make it look the way "people come to expect") | [22:51] |
| * shinohai | shudders at the thought of no samovar, would have pointed them to Eulora | [22:52] |
| asciilifeform: | it ain't new, it is copy of 'athena' ( the thing found on old suns, that made their ui eye-clawing fugly and painful to navigate ) | [22:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was talking in general! | [23:09] |
| ben_vulpes: | cpp is just delightful | [23:41] |
| ben_vulpes: | so if i have a `std::map<ktype, std::vector<vtype>> stuffMap`, is it legal to say `stuffMap[k].push_back(newV)` | [23:42] |
| ben_vulpes: | ? | [23:42] |
| * ben_vulpes | will eventually 'tias', ofc | [23:43] |
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